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D
It'll
then
be
opened
up
to
others
that
might
be
willing
to
provide
information
for
or
against
the
application
at
which
time
then
after
that
is
completed
and
everyone's
had
a
chance
to
express
their
views
and
their
their
pieces
of
information.
The
hearing
portion
will
close
at
which
time
then
I
will
ask
for
a
motion
from
one
of
the
members
of
the
board.
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B
Alrighty
don
yes
andrew
president,
nick.
E
D
46-02493
requesting
a
variance
from
section
1296.03
subsection,
a
from
the
codified
ordinance
of
the
city
of
norton
ohio
for
the
purpose
of
construction.
They
had
known
that
the
application
was
filed
with
the
city
and
the
secretary
sent
notices
via
first
class
mail
to
at
least
10
days
prior
to
the
original
date
of
the
hearing,
as
provided
by
section
6.03
of
this
charter
of
the
city
of
norton
ohio.
D
Okay
at
this
point
in
time,
then
you
know,
would
you
please
assist
mr
hodgkins?
Yes,
huskins?
Okay,
I
ask
that
you
please
raise
your
right
hand.
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D
Okay,
mr
hoskinson,
would
you
please
present
your
rationale
for
the
request
for
this
variance.
F
Well,
I
I
have
a
a
wife
that,
first
of
all,
it's
a
garage
we
built-
and
my
wife
has
broke
her
hip
here
a
few
years
ago,
and
so
she
has
to
have
a
place
for
rehabilitation,
and
so
we
had
you
know
the
the
loft
area
when
I'm
proposing
to
build
up
there
so
that
we
can
put
all
the
equipment
up
there.
So
she
can
maintain.
You
know,
ability
to
build
a
walk
and
right
now
she's
not
being
able
to
have
the
equipment.
F
D
Okay,
so
now,
mr
atkins,
you
submitted
your
building
request.
Form
on,
I
believe,
was
the
20
20.
I'm
sorry,
the.
D
Yeah
we're
at
the
24th
of
june
right.
That's
when
you
originally
started
planning
to
build
this
garage.
Yes
at
that
time,
then
you
stated
then
that
you
were
going
to
have
a
height
of
16
feet.
D
F
Well,
the
problem:
what
happened
was
when
I,
when
I
got
that
I
got
the
plans
on
that,
I
was
going
to
go
with
wood
and
then
wood
skyrocketed,
because
for
whatever
reason
I
couldn't
get
the
wood
that
I
wanted
to
do
it.
So
then
I
I
went
to
steel.
So
when
I
was
at
barberton
the
building
department
over
there,
I
took
the
plans
over
there
for
the
building
and
they
approved
it,
and
so
I
proceeded
going
forward.
D
F
B
F
You
know
what
I
I
I
guess.
I
missed
that
because
I
I
was
under
impression
that
nor
that
barton
wasn't
was
pretty
much
had
to
had
to
say
so
on
it
all.
F
F
They
they
they
saw
the
permit,
so
they
they
saw
that
permit
that
I
had
stuck
up
by
the
street
and
the
by
that
they
knew
that
it
was
approved
by
that
building
department.
B
F
I
I
build
fences
chain
link,
fences
and
wood
fences.
G
I
have
a
somewhat
of
a
related
question
in
your
june
24
2020
application
for
the
original
permit.
You
indicated,
I
think,
that's
your
signature
at
the
bottom
jared
d,
hoskins.
Yes,.
F
G
Indicated
it
says,
is
electrical
work
to
be
done.
No
is
hvac
work
to
be
done.
No
is
plumbing
work
to
be
done?
No
in
your
letter
to
us
the
bza
for
today's
hearing,
you
indicated
that
your
proposed
plans
for
the
space
is
a
rehabilitation
room
which
will
house
equipment
for
the
purpose
of
rehabilitation
for
your
wife,
as
you
sit
here
today,
do
you
still
maintain
that
there's
no
electric
run
up
there
and
there's
no
otherwise
hvac
or
plumbing
done
at
all,
for.
B
A
F
G
F
The
building
is,
or
the
zoning
inspector
came
by
and
talked
to
us
and
gave
us
a
give
us
a
letter.
I
got
a
letter
from
this
norton
how.
E
E
I
I
find
this
somewhat
interesting,
there's
two
weeks
of
span
that
it
took
to
construct
a
building
and
when,
within
those
two
weeks,
did
the
barberton
inspectors
come
out
or
did
the
norton
administration
visit
the
site
did
either
one
of
those
visit
the
site
within
those
two
weeks?
No
sir,
nothing
nope.
E
E
I
have
can
I
speak
for
about
10
minutes
straight
for
the
group.
Okay,
I
have
some
thoughts
on
this
okay.
E
I
I
was
wondering
about
policies
and
procedures,
for
example,
on
how
something
is
performed
from
a
project,
for
example
from
beginning
to
end
and
I've,
and
I
wanted
to
to
get
in
my
mind
what
we
really
had
in
the
zoning
and
for
a
zoning
and
a
building
permit.
E
It
appears
to
me,
for
example,
that
that
it's
it's
quite
clear
what
their
requirements
are.
The
applicant
comes
in,
he
applies,
he
submits
the
site
drawings,
he
submits
the
building
drawings.
The
building
drawings
are
then
signed
by
both
the
applicant
in
the
city
of
norm
of
norton
and
there's
now
an
agreement
made
and
that
agreement
basically
is
also
said
to
be
on
the
zoning
permit.
E
E
Now
this
gentleman
proceeds
to
the
city
of
barbaton.
He
shows
the
city
of
barberton,
the
drawing
in
the
package
and
hopefully
there's
a
drawing
in
there
of
the
building
that
has
the
signatures
of
the
city
of
norton
and
the
applicant,
and
he
gets
the
building
permit
so
somewhere
along
the
line.
Here,
a
decision
is
made
to
change
the
height
of
the
building
or
the
building
dimensions.
Let's
say
so:
where
does
he
go?
E
So
he
makes
a
decision.
Well,
it's
the
building,
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
building
department
and
ask
them
if
I
can
increase
the
height
of
the
of
the
building
and
sure
enough.
E
The
the
barberton
city
building
department
says
sure
you
can
do
that,
so
he
thinks
that
everything's,
okay,
but,
however,
I
feel
that
there
really
is
nothing
in
place
that
properly
directs
this
applicant
in
the
right
direction.
E
E
E
So
it's
to
me
we
have
a
combination
of
a
formal
way
of
communicating
which
really
dictates
instructions
and
direction,
and
then
you
couple
that,
with
a
informal
way
of
doing
something
which
really
doesn't
define
anything
except
it's
verbally,
it
certainly
doesn't
define
direction
which,
which
in
informally
could
be
any
direction.
So
he
chooses
to
go
the
billing
department.
E
E
For
example,
I
can
say
one
example,
for
example,
the
zoning
permit
itself
on
the
bottom.
That
says
this
is
a
this
is
an
agreement
now.
Why
can't
you
follow
that?
All
those
lines
up
with
any
changes
to
this
agreement
shall
be
requested
or
writing
to
the
city
of
norton
zoning
inspection
department
for
approval?
Why
couldn't
there
be
something
like
that
on
the
zoning
permit
itself?
E
To
go
that
would
be
one
way
of
checking
balances
in
this
whole
procedure.
E
Now,
if
there
isn't
a
operating
and
procedures
created
between
the
city
of
norton
and
the
city
of
barberton,
I
think
something
like
that
should
be
in
place
so
that
when
there
is
the
communication
going
on,
it's
done
in
a
more
formal
manner
where
you
have
directions
and
direction.
D
Well,
nick
in
in
parts
I
can
agree
with
what
you
were
saying.
However,
two
things
I
would
come
back
to
the
first
ones
is
what
you
brought
out
itself
and
the
fact
that
you
know
you
said
there
to
build
a
structure
in
accordance
with
the
plans
and
specifications
on
file
in
the
zoning
department
office.
D
So
you
know
enough,
you
have
to
start
from
there
and
go
from
there
right.
The
question,
then,
would
be,
if
you're
going
to
change
something.
Don't
you
think
you
might
want
to
start
back
in
the
beginning
again,
because
in
essence
you
are
submitting
all
new
plans
and
the
plans
you
had
put
on
office
are
not
the
plans
that
you
wanted
to
eventually
go
with.
D
D
D
D
So
can
you
can
you
possibly
add
into
any
of
this.
H
Now
the
it's
clearly
noted
that
you
said:
building
you
live
in
norton
you
you
got,
the
zoning
permit
to
build
it
in
norton
is
all
barberton
is
the
building
department
is
all
they're
doing,
is
inspecting
the
building.
So
there's
there's
I
see
no
issue
with
our
policies
or
procedures
or
whatever
it's
it.
He
submitted
the
zoning
permit.
Originally
he
followed
what
you're
supposed
to
do.
Originally,
he
had
a
change
of
plans.
He
didn't
come
back
to
norton
what
you're
supposed
to
do?
I
mean
I,
I
I
don't.
H
H
Yeah
they
received
that
zoning
permit
the
they
they
submitted
application
and
obviously
he
was
directed
by
someone
to
fill
out
the
application.
So
the
application
comes
in.
I
review
it,
I
approve
it,
he
comes
and
he
pays
us
forty
dollars.
He
receives
that
zoning
permit.
He
has
to
have
a
zoning
permit
to
get
a
building
permit
in
that
zoning.
Permit
it
says
permeate
is,
is
hereby
granted
to
a
name
to
build
structure
in
accordance
with
the
plans
and
specifications
on
file
in
the
zoning
department
office.
H
C
I
think
the
main
question
is
is
why
did
barbiton
permit
give
him
a
new
permit.
C
B
Don't
know
what
did
you
get
writing
from
barbaran
that
it
was
okay
to
build
it
higher.
B
H
C
F
They
had,
I
took
the.
I
took
the
plans
there
of
what
I
proposed
to
do
and
they
approved
it,
and
I
I
had
no
idea
that
that
there
was
a
height
restriction.
I
had
no
idea,
they
were.
You
know
I
thought
well,
they
approved
it.
I
said:
well,
I'm
good
to
go.
I
didn't
know
that
there
was
going
to
be
an
issue
like
this.
I
never
would
have
I'd.
You
know
I
get
permits
all
the
time.
I
would
never
do
anything.
F
D
D
If
I,
if
I
come
in
and
get
my
and
I'm
gonna
build
something-
and
I
I
submit
my
plans
to
you
and
I
fill
out
the
application
and
everything-
and
you
issue
me
this-
this
permit
right
just
a
little
square
piece
of
paper,
and
that's
that's
it
right.
That's
all
I
have
to
take
down
to
barberton
is
just
that.
Just
this,
the
zoning
that
thing
right
there
right.
H
H
Sheep,
there
might
be
one
more
sheet
with
that,
because
it's
we
don't.
We
don't
require
building
plans
because
we're
not
a
we're,
not
approving
the
building
aspect
of
it.
We're
not
I'm
not
a
building
inspector
okay,
so
the
basically,
what
I'm
doing
is
making
sure
that
you're
zoned
properly
to
build
whatever
you
need
to
build
any
requirements,
whether
it
be
a
building
or
a
fence
or
a
pool
that
you
comply
with
all
those
ordinances.
D
H
C
Have
been
held
up
by
right
there,
that's
what
I
remember
bringing
down
to
barberton,
which
was
a
building
plan
that
showed
what
I
was
going
to
put
up
in
my
backyard
yeah.
Okay!
Well,
that.
A
G
H
It
does
not
necessarily
matter
to
me
on
the
aspect
of
the
application
other
than
if
say
you
submit
that,
and
you
do
check
that
it's
going
to
be
electrical,
then
our
front
desk
or
whoever
takes
in
the
application
make
sure
you
know
hey
you're
going
to
have
an
electrician
come
do
that
they
have
to
be
registered
with
the
city
to
be
a
contractor
in
the
city.
H
H
C
Barbican
will
come
and
expect
that,
because
that's
what
I
have
in
mind,
my
shed
was
electrified.
They
came
and
they
inspected
that
they
did
multiple
inspections
at
different
stages
of
the
construction,
which
I
don't
understand
why.
Mr
hoskins
did
not
have
that
they
wanted
to
see
the
the
structure
in
different
stages
like
when
they
put
the
foundation
when
they
put
the
walls
up
when
they
put
the
roof
on.
I
had
multiple
inspections
and
I
have
a
little.
F
D
Well,
for
one
thing:
let's
back
up
the
barberton
barberton
building
department's
going
to
come
out
and
inspect
the
workmanship
being
done
and
whether
or
not
the
building
is
built
to
code.
They
are
not
going
to
come
out
to
inspect,
to
see
if
it
meets
zoning
requirements
of
the
city
of
norton.
That's
not
their
job.
D
D
So
we
got
to
keep
the
building
people
out
of
this
really,
I
think
because
they
they're
not
the
ones
to
determine
zoning
in
the
city
of
norton
right.
We
have
an
inspector
that
does
that
and
we
have
a
department
that
does
that
we
just
don't
have
a
department
anymore,
that
does
the
building
inspection
as
well
like
we
used
to
have
so
there's
two
separate
entities
here
and
you
can't
hold
barbraton's
building
people
responsible
for
a
zoning
issue
for
construction,
no
electrical
heating,
etc.
Yes,
but
not
for
a
zoning
issue.
A
G
That,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
the
burden
rests
with
the
applicant
here
and
it
is
on
them,
and
I
I'm
from
the
school
of
thought
that
ignorance
is
not
a
defense
to
the
law.
Okay,
so
the
question
for
us
is
whether
this
variance
is
in
harmony
with
the
purpose
of
the
statute
of
the
codified
ordinance.
G
D
Okay,
I
think
we
should
make
at
this
point
in
time.
Let
it
be
known
that
the
for
the
purpose
of
record
that
the
city
on
this
particular
application
has
received
I'm
trying
to
pull
them
all
out
here.
So
I
make
sure
I
say
them
all
letters
of
support.
I'm
gonna
say
it
that
way
with
this
but
hodgkin's
born
from,
and
I
hope
I
do
not
mispronounce
any
of
the
names,
but
it's
like
sykes,
I
believe
it
is.
D
They
live
at
3570,
greenwich
road
reynolds,
mr
mark
reynolds,
who
lives
at
3579
greenwich
road,
michelle
matt
mattis.
I
think
that's
it.
They
live
with
3932
nash,
that
nice
doesn't
say
just
nash,
and
then
I
larry
mr
larry
green
at
35,
37,
greenwich
road
and
also
one
came
in
a
stephanie
wims,
who
is
at
3582
greenwich
road.
D
So
let
it
be
for
the
record
known
that
these
were
submitted
to
the
city
and
want
to
enter
those
into
into
the
record
and
and
all
of
them
were.
D
In
support
of
this
variance,
we
also
received
then
a
letter
from
to
be
entered
into
the
record
from
mr
jack
gainer,
and
he
is
saying
that
he
is
against
the
requested
variance
of
the
height
of
the
barn.
For
the
following
reasons:
the
applicant
applied
for
zoning
permits
to
build
a
bar
with
a
16
foot
height,
the
permit
was
granted.
They
went
to
barbaton
and
applied
for
permit
to
build
based
on
the
measurements
he
had
given
to
our
zoning
department.
D
D
He
said
this
gentleman
has
conducted
business
for
years
in
the
area
and
in
his
opinion,
in
mr
gainer's
opinion,
he
is
a
knowledge
he
is
knowledgeable
enough
to
know.
He
needs
to
needed
to
come
to
norton
for
approval.
Before
going
back
to
barberton.
D
So
those
are
those
are
all
that
I
have
received
concerning
you
know
any
inquiries
or
letters
for
or
against
the
variants.
At
this
point
in
time.
D
Okay,
is
there
anyone
else
present
that
wishes
to
speak
for
or
against
this
application.
D
A
Well,
I'm
in
agreement
with
it-
and
I
know
my
husband
is
very
knowledgeable
because
he
has
worked
in
the
area
so
so
long,
but
it
he's
being
truthful
and
honest
when
he
said
it
slipped
through
the
cracks,
because
what
nothing
on
barberton
actually
has
two
sets
of
plans
approved
on
that
they
got
the
one
set
plan
approved
and
then,
when
we
had
trouble
with
the
wood
and
changed
it
still,
we
went
back
to
barberton
and
we
were
both
unaware
that
we
needed
to
go
back
all
the
way
to
norton.
D
Okay
for
the
record,
let
that
know
that
mrs
hodges,
what's
your
first
name:
katie
aidy,
okay,
mrs
katie
hoskins,
obviously
at
the
same
address,
yes,
sir,
the
record:
okay.
D
No,
I
did
not
I
that
was
my
error.
I
did
not
ask
her
to
do
that.
G
To
my
mind,
as
a
member
of
this
board,
it
matters
that
there
is
testimony
under
oath
versus
versus,
not
okay.
If
she's
gonna
speak,
if
she's
gonna
speak
to
this
being
an
honest
mistake
and
that
they're
they
truly
and
genuinely
you
know,
did
not
do
this
knowingly
that
matters
in
my
mind
whether
it's
under
oath.
B
D
A
D
G
D
D
Okay,
everyone
present
having
been
given
the
opportunity
to
be
heard
at
this
public
hearing
and
not
declare
the
fact-finding
portion
of
this
hearing
closed
at
this
time
then
turn
to
the
members
of
the
board.
Is
there
anyone
any
member
of
the
board
wishing
at
this
time
to
propose
a
motion
on
this?
This
application.
B
I
I'm
still
on
the
fence.
To
be
honest,
I
I
realized
that
you
know
mr
hoskins
does
work
in
the
city
of
norton,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I'm
kind
of
concerned
that
I
don't
think
it's
a
clear-cut
walk
from
getting
that
application
for
the
zoning
and
then
going
to
the
building.
I
mean
a
general
person
isn't
going
to
know
that
they're
not
going
to
know
such
a
fine
difference.
B
We
know
it
because
we
we
do
this
and
a
builder
would
know
it
because
they
do
it,
I'm
not
so
sure
about
a
fence
installer,
because
he
doesn't
really
deal
with
the
heights
and
things
like
that.
I
also
understand
what
tom
is
saying
that
you
know
it
is
the
law
you
you've
got
to
know
the
law,
but
I
do
think
that
we
have
it
set
up
as
a
little
bit
confusing
with
having
the
zoning
and
norton
and
the
building
in
barberton.
B
I
I
just
think
that
does
give
room
for
error
even
on
you
know.
In
normal
circumstances,
I
guess
is
what
I
think.
G
I
I
I
in
my
in
my
opinion
for
myself
as
one
member
of
this
board.
I
I
just
don't
see
the
relevance
in
somebody's
either
ignorance
or
intention,
even
if
it's
inadvertent,
that
they
didn't
come
back
to
the
zoning
department
of
norton.
In
my
opinion,
what
matters
for
us
in
approving
or
denying
the
variance
is
based
upon
whether
this
is
in
harmony
with
the
purpose
of
the
statute.
G
H
Okay,
if
I
may,
I
just
wanted
to
put
in
there
just
so
it
was
on
record.
You
know
the
reason
why
I
was
drawn
out
there
to
see
the
height
of
the
building
is
due
to
complaints
so
that
we
did
receive
complaints,
and
I
I'm
curious.
I
can't
remember
exactly
how
many
but
jerry,
if
you
could,
how
many
permits
have
you
pulled
on
your
house
in
the
last
year.
H
So
why
did
you
come
back
to
pull
for
permits
on
on
any
additions
that
he
was
putting
on?
You
already
had
a
building
for
me.
If
I
mean
I
just
don't
under
I'm
just
trying
to
find
a
hard
hard
way
to
understand
why
you're
using
the
building
permit
that
barbarian
approved
it
I
mean
that's,
that's
like
you
knew
to
come
with
all
your
other
additions
and
remodels.
A
H
F
E
E
That
was
stipulated
by
the
permits,
so
he
wouldn't
have
come
back.
He
would
not
have
come
back
on
the
previous
floor
if
there
were
no
changes
to
any
construction.
E
This
may
have
been
the
only
one
he's
ever
had
in
his
life.
That
has-
and
I
don't
know
that,
but
maybe
it's
the
only
one
he's
ever
had
that
he
wanted
to
change.
I
mean
I
really
don't
know
that
there's
so
many
things
here
that
variables.
B
D
D
So
I
would
have
to
say
that
that
height
issue
has
to
be
something
that
you
would
also
consider
if
you
were
doing
any
other
type
of
construction,
and
so,
and
so
I
guess
with
with
that
being
said,
I
am
I'm
going
to
make
the
motion
then,
to
deny
this
application
based
upon
the
fact
that
the
plans
submitted
were
not
necessary.
That
were
not
the
ones
followed
and
therefore.
G
Don
with
all
due
respect-
I
I
I
I
cannot,
second,
that
I
would.
I
would
actually
move
to
to
grant
the
application,
because
I
I
cannot,
I
cannot
deny
I
mean
he
he's
here
today
and
so
I
I
would
move
to
grant
the
application
hesitantly.
D
G
D
E
E
C
A
D
No,
I
got,
we
have
the
only
other
last
thing
we
have
is
next
month.
We,
of
course
we
have
that
other.
You
have
that
other
application
that
we
got
postponed
this
year
right.