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08-16-2022 Planning Commission
A
A
E
F
B
Like
to
call
to
order
the
city
norton
planning
commission
meeting
for
august
16th
shannon,
would
you
do
a
roll
call?
Please?
Yes,
here.
G
B
B
Don't
have
any
old
business
for
this
meeting
new
business.
We
have
two
applications.
Both
of
these
are
rezoning.
Only
the
first
one
is
a
pc
application,
r6
2022,
and
it
is
for
a
rezoning
from
a
b1
to
a
c1
and
there's
the
applicant
here
by
chance
for
that
one.
B
Yes,
oh,
could
you
step
up
and
talk
about
what
you're
doing
just
a
couple
questions
like?
Could
you
say
your
name
and
add
of.
H
Course
my
name
is
pete
gonzalez
and
my
company's
stratus
companies.
This
is
a
spe
called
audix
capital.
You
know,
and
you
know,
I've
been
working
and
talking
with
the
sellers
on
the
site
for
a
while
trying
to
find
some
type
of
uses
that
make
sense
within
the
current
zoning
or
close
to
it.
H
You
know
I
I
develop
in
a
few
markets
and
I've
developed
a
lot
of
storage
a
lot
of
flex
space
sites
before
and
when
I
talked
to
staff
originally
about
traditional
storage,
it
didn't
make
sense
or
fit
within
zoning,
which
is
understandable
and
we
were
trying
to
find
some
type
of
use
that
made
reasonable
sense
for
for
car
counts,
lighting,
noise,
etc.
H
And
you
know
I've
done
a
new
blend
of
flex
space
units
and
the
markets
where
I
develop,
which
is
colorado,
florida,
carolinas
and-
and
you
know,
that's
that's
something
that
seemed
to
make
sense
to
me.
Based
upon
the
people.
I've
talked
to
the
brokerage
firms.
I've
talked
to
about
needs
in
this
market,
the
location
of
the
site,
so
the
idea
would
be
to.
H
B
Okay,
so
the
code
right
now
already
recognizes,
like
a
c1
from
you,
know
the
north
end
of
the
south
end
of
cleveland
mason
road
within
the
city
limits.
I
think
the
long-term
plan
with
the
city
would
be
to
take
and
rezone
all
these
properties
to
c1,
but
some
of
that
you
know,
doesn't
necessarily
make
sense
in
some
areas.
B
If
you
get
into
the
c1
there's,
the
first
level
is
just
re-zoning
the
property
and
then
the
second
level
would
be
this
chapter
1279,
which
would
require
you
to
have
you
know
a
site,
formal
sat
plan
be
submitted
and
then
there's
a
there's,
actually
a
architectural
review
board.
I
don't
know
if
you
had
read
through
that
or
anybody
giving
you
that
section,
but
there's
a
lot
more
restrictions
there
on
types
of
buildings
and
exterior
configurations,
and
things
like
that.
H
H
Well,
you
know
it
came
up
in
discussion
with
staff.
You
know
regarding
the
options
available
on
the
site
and
we
it
you
know
the
initial
indication
again.
You
know,
ideally
for
me,
you
develop
a
lot
of
storage
units.
That
was
the
first.
You
know
that
was
the
first
request
and
that
seemed
to
be
that
was
going
to
be
clearly
an
uphill
battle,
so
you
know
we
didn't
press
any
further,
but
talking
about
the
other
uses,
you
know
traditional
neighborhood,
I'm
not
sure
what
that
what
that
would
really
be
for
that
specific
site
right.
H
So
with
that
aside,
you
know
what
were
some
other
options
that
that
work
could
be
on
the
table.
You
know
for
a
rezone
and
an
ultimate
conceptual
plan
and.
B
When
I
looked
at
the
1279
03,
which
is
permitted
or
uses
you
know
what
you're
doing
is
a
little
bit,
you
know
because
it
does
talk
about
building
supplies
and
service
facilities,
which
is
probably
the
only
thing
that
would
descriptive
life
match
what
you're
thinking
about
doing
and
it's.
This
is
really
confusing,
because
it's
probably
the
first
time
we've
really
had
to
address
c1s,
but
it's
actually
a
conditional
use.
B
So
when
you
would
get
into
a
next
level
of
this,
then
we'd
have
to
go
in
and
in
addition
to
your
site
plan,
you'd
have
to
there'd,
be
some
paperwork
there
to
use
this
as
a
conditional
use.
So
we
probably
down
the
road
depending
on
where
you
go
with
this,
we'll
probably
need
a
little
road
map
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
ourselves
on
all
the
requirements
of
the
code.
B
H
Having
done
this
before,
you
know
that
the
size
of
the
units
will
really
dictate
the
type
of
uses
that
are
in
there.
So
I
building
supplies
can
be
a
you
know,
maybe
a
concern,
but
there's
not
you
know
there
will
never
be
units
large
enough
for
lumber
or
you
know
right.
You
know
large,
you
know
large
storage
type
capacities.
That's
you
know
typically.
H
B
B
We
probably
didn't
hear
that
word
until
last
month,
yeah,
so,
okay,
anybody
else
have
any
comments
or
questions
about
this
application.
In
looking
at.
D
H
Well,
there's
an
existing
entrance
right
right
off
cleveland
maslin,
as
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware.
You
know,
I
know,
there's
a
stubbed
out
road.
You
know
through
through
the
neighborhood
area,
which
is
which
is
probably
a
concern
I
expect,
but
it's
just
there's
a
stubbed
out
road
that
exists
there
and
and
what
what
I
looked
at
from
my
team
and
and
talks
with
the
seller
of
multiple
prior
conceptuals.
H
It
was
always
that
stubbed
off
portion
as
a
point
of
point
of
access
and
I'm
expecting
will
want-
or
everyone
will
want
a
second
point
of
access,
I'm
hoping
that
will
be
the
one
off
the
freeway.
You
know,
that's
probably
only
going
to
be
a
a
right
and
right
out.
I
expect
given
where
it's
located,
but
I
think
those
are
the
only
two
options
that
I've
seen
from
reviewing
I've.
Driven
aside.
I've
walked
the
site,
I'm
not
aware
of
a
third
option.
K
H
H
B
But
even
the
rezoning
from
a
b1
to
a
c1
is
going
to
have
to
go
to
council
for
approval.
I
did
for
benefit
of
council
I'm
going
to
list
what
the
code
section
is.
That
requires
approval
for
rezoning
just
so
they're.
You
know
we.
We
understand
why
we're
sending
this
to
council,
so
any
other
comments
or
questions
so.
H
Our
code
is
listing
here,
or
do
you
not
know?
Well,
you
know
I
I'd
stopped
short
of
saying.
I
was
told
that
you
know,
but
you
know
I
think,
during
our
discussions
and
we've
had
a
few.
You
know
that
it
input
was
given
and
we
were
steered
a
bit
that
you
know
this.
One
made
this
this
rezone
made
more
sense
for
what
I
assume
your
ongoing
or
future
development
plans
are
for
this
corridor.
K
B
B
K
K
B
I
would
say
like
when
this
came
through
about
what
two
or
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
You
know
they
were
saying.
Well,
it's
c1.
I
said
no,
everybody
is
going
to
have
to
come
in
and
do
a
zoning
on
their
property
to
make
it
c1,
which
could
be
250
different
applicants,
and
I
think
at
that
time
what
I
understood
from
the
administration
was
we'll
just
deal
with
it
as
requests
come
up,
and
so.
K
K
B
So
sorry
for
the
information,
it's
okay,
I
I
agree
with
you.
That
was
the
plan
a
couple
years
ago.
You
know
that
if
we
have
to
do
it,
then
as
properties
come
up
or
the
you
know,
somebody
owns
property
and
they
want
to
do
something
to
put
a
building
in
there.
Then
we
should
encourage
them
to
go
to
c1.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
for
watching.
So
normally
I
was
gonna
say
normally
in
the
planning
commission.
We
don't
actually
have
residents
come
up
and
talk.
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
anybody
here
is
associated
with
this
property.
B
You
know
I'll
give
you
some
time.
I
know
mrs
whippy.
She
has
you
know
as
a
council
representative
at
large.
She
always
has
some
very
good
questions
to
come
up
and
she
makes
an
effort
to
attend
these
meetings
so
she's
familiar
with,
what's
going
on
when
she
gets
to
council.
But
if
you'd
like
to
come
up
and
ask
questions,
I
you.
H
E
E
All
the
residents
are
saying:
hey,
you
know
we
we
don't
want
possible
commercial
vehicles
or
large
trucks,
or
you
know
people
just
coming
through
the
neighborhood
if
possible.
So
you
know
in
all
due
respect
for
for
his
interest
in
having
a
new,
a
new
property,
which
I
think
we
should
support
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
figure
out
an
alternative
way
to
make
one
entrance
work
and
I
think
the
entrance
that
he
was
talking
about
is
not
necessarily
fair
oaks,
but
it's
sinwood
off
of
fair
oaks.
E
When
we
were
looking
at
the
map
earlier,
I
can't
verify
that
100
percent,
but
is
he
able
to
answer
a
couple
questions
is
that
okay.
B
E
For
that
area,
but
that's
the
main
concerns
that
I've
been
hearing.
I
don't,
I
think
that
that's
the
main
concern
is
coming
in
and
through
the
residential
neighborhood,
with
possible
commercial.
B
B
I
think
the
problem
you
get
like
if
you
look
at
the
b1
zoning,
the
concept
is
really
something:
that's
a
small
lot
right
on
cleveland
road
and
really
what
that
property
that
akron
general
owned
was.
You
know
a
small
width
but
14
acres,
deep,
and
so,
when
you
start
talking
about
you
know
putting
in,
I
figured
where
some
of
the
the
b1s
are.
None
of
them
would
make
sense
there,
where
the
c1
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
flexibility.
E
So,
just
according
to
my
measurements,
I
was
on.
Like
a
you,
know,
mapping
software,
it
looks
like
it's
about
111
yards
from
the
property
line
on
the
back
of
their
properties
to
like
the
actual
edge
of
the
freeway
111
by
about
859
yards.
That's
a
rough
estimate,
but
not
a
whole
lot
of
room.
For
you
know
two
lanes
or
I
don't
know
how
big
these
buildings
are
going
to
be,
but
yeah.
That's
the
concerns
that
my
constituents
have
at
this
point.
Is
they
don't
want
the
road
coming
in
off
of
fair
oaks.
B
B
Okay,
and
so
that
application
would
come
to
you
and
then
you
know,
you'll
you'll
have
three
readings
and
probably
a
public
hearing.
I
assume,
okay.
So
so
again,
there
you'll
probably
need
to
have
some
additional
discussions
we'll
deal
with
it.
L
Good
evening
elaborate
a
little
bit,
I
think:
that's
what
you
guys
are
really
trying
to
decide
here
tonight
with
saying
b1
or
the
c1
is
the
fact
that
you
don't
want
to
have
that
access
coming
in
off
of
residential
property?
L
That's
what
it
is
that
the
planning,
as
well
as
many
of
these
residents
behind
me,
are
looking
for
looking
to
get
the
assurance
that
there's
not
going
to
be
something
thrown
out
there
that
once
we
cross
this
threshold,
we're
all
stuck
with
it
or
the
council
is
going
to
be
left
up
with
the
decision.
Well,
you
want
b1
or
c1,
so
they
can
sell
it
or
not.
I
don't
care
if
they
sell
it
or
not.
G
L
B
I
think,
oh
because
actually
section
6.02
bnc
of
the
code
requires
planning
commission
action
on
the
application
and
then
it
would
be
passed
on
to
you,
because
any
rezoning
requires
approval
of
counsel.
And
I
assume
you
would
have
your
three
readings
and
and
that's
where
you
would
have
your
public
hearing.
L
B
L
You
know
I've
looked
up
a
lot
of
stuff
since
then,
and
now
on
a
lot
of
these
items.
But
that's
what
the
big
deal
is.
I
don't
want
something
thrown
in
our
laps
and
then,
if
we
say
okay
and
then
well,
it's
a
c1,
so
they
can
do
what
they
want.
The
c1
is
actually
up
here.
This
whole
property.
We
don't
care
if
it's
in
a
residential
or
not
right.
B
But
not
necessarily
the
it
probably
isn't
the
ideal
setup
for
that,
but
you
know
I
could
see
where
somebody
you
know.
I
you
know
with
the
other
one.
We
looked
up
they're
going
to
have
a
you,
know
a
bathroom
and
sink,
and
you
know
their
own
heat
and
stuff
like
that.
But
I
can't
imagine
somebody
trying
to
run
a
business
out
of
that.
B
L
So
potentially
someone
could
have
a
lot
of
product
in
any
one
or
all
of
these
separate
little
buildings
and
the
general
public
be
going
for
lack
of
a
better
word
going
in
and
out
of
this
all
day,
long
through
certain
hours,
which
we
don't
have
that
even
set
up
in
our
ordinances
as
yet
which,
if
these
aren't
set
up
in
our
ordinances.
As
of
yet
does
that
mean
it's
going
to
be
an
open
open
game
when
we
get
to
that
point,.
B
Well,
it's
kind
of
like
a
b1,
I
mean
there's
no
restrictions
right
now
on
b1s
and
b2s
on
when
they
can
be
opened-
and
you
know
I
mean
I
know,
there's
separate
ordinances
on
lighting
and
not
you
know,
blinding
the
street
kind
of
like
mcdonald's
had
their
lights
there
originally.
So
you
couldn't
see
as
you're
coming
down
the
hill.
L
I
H
B
B
I
H
I
B
Yeah
and
right
now
we're
just
really
kind
of
getting
the
code
to
match
up
with
the
property,
but
the
next
step
would
be
they're
going
to
have
to
do
a
whole
site
plan
and
an
architectural
review
board,
and
then
that's
going
to
have
to
come
back
through
and
you
know
on
that.
One
you'll
see
all
the
drawings
they'll
be
online.
B
J
J
J
J
J
If
you
increase
the
traffic
pattern
in
our
residential
neighborhood,
where
everybody
knows
everybody
and
we
watch
out
for
everybody
with
trucks
going
in
and
out,
you're
gonna
put
children's
lives
in
danger
and
it
will
probably
be
right
outside
my
house
and
the
one
thing
my
biggest
fear
is
looking
out
and
seeing
a
child
hurt,
injured
or
dead
from
a
truck
at
the
end
of
my
street
right
there.
So
when
you
guys
sit
in
your
council
meeting
and
consider
that
I
want
you
to
think
of
the
little
precious
lives
in
our
neighborhood.
B
I
guess
from
my
standpoint
in
reading
through
this,
you
know:
we've
set
up
these
zones
already
to
allow
people
to
use
c1,
that's
just
the
first
level.
The
second
one
is
going
to
be
any
design.
Work
is
going
to
have
to
address
all
these
issues
that
that
come
up,
that's
going
to
affect
the
resonance
and
the
access,
and
what
do
you
want
to
call
it?
The
let's
say,
disturbances
from
the
back
side.
I
know.
B
B
But
again
there
was
still
you
know,
other
other
issues
with
that,
and
then
you
know
the
probably
the
economy
didn't
support
that,
but
my
tendency
would
be
to,
from
my
standpoint,
would
be
to
approve
the
c1
zoning
and
pass
it
on
the
council,
and
then
I
think
in
the
meantime
probably
council
needs
to
talk
to
administration
and
to
the
developer
a
little
bit
more
about.
I
B
B
B
So,
but
so
so
that's
something
that
that's
why
you
have
your
cousins.
B
B
B
B
Yeah,
the
question
is
whether
it's
marketable,
that's
the
that's.
The.
B
Yeah,
so
even
with
akron
general,
they
they
can't
market
that
property
where
they
are
now.
They
can't.
B
D
D
But
we
hear
your
concerns,
especially
regarding
access
and
I
for
one
you
know
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
So
all
I'm
saying
is
we
could
still
you
know
we
could
still
review
a
better
plan,
but
until
we
see
it,
we
don't
know
what
we're
dealing
with
so,
whether
it's
c1
or
b1
you're
still
going
to
have
a
an
area
that
you
may
not
like.
What's
going
to
be
put
there
and
that's
where
you
bring
it
to
council
and
voice
your
concerns,
just
like
you
did
this
evening,.
L
It
was
brought
under
our
name,
so
if
that
could
be
done,
then
why
couldn't
council
make
a
motion
or
try
to
get
this
rezoned
back
to
the
residential,
just
a
thought.
Now
I
have
to
go
and
research.
This
don't
get
your
hopes
up,
but
if
I
recall
correctly,
that's
what
happened.
I
won't
even
put
you
in
the
position
bill
to
ask,
but
if
I
recall
correctly,
that
came
under
council's
jurisdiction
to
put
in
for
that.
So
I
don't
see
why.
Council,
you
got
two
of
three
of
us
here
tonight.
E
L
E
B
E
E
B
B
Right
yeah,
I
mean
the
intelligence
yeah.
If
they
didn't
do
anything,
the
right
thing
to
do
is
revert
it
back
and
then
maybe
you
can
market
it
differently
so,
but
as
a
residential,
it's
probably
hard
to
market
that
and
you
know,
make
housing
build
houses
there
at
a
reasonable
cost
and
sell
them
right.
E
B
B
Okay,
there's
no
other
questions.
Anybody
want
to
make
a
motion
or.
D
B
Just
says
four
against:
I
guess
so
we're
making
a
to
approve
application.
B
B
F
F
I'll
go
yes
with
the
consideration
of
the
residence
you
know,
so
they
can
find
out,
what's
really
going
on
with
that
as
far
as
access
roads
and
if
it's
going
to
interfere
with
their
everyday
lives,
because
I
wouldn't
want
anything
like
that
in
my
yard
or
in
my
neighborhood.
F
F
B
Thank
you,
okay,
I'll
process
that
one
through
and
that
would
be
sent
on
the
council.
Probably
what
late
this
week
and
then
come
to
council
for
action.
Is
your
next
council
meeting
a
committee
okay,
so
you
wouldn't
take
an
action
on
that
anyways
right
you'd
go
to
committee
of
the
whole.
B
Okay:
okay,
the
next
application
we
have
is
r7
2022,
which
is
a
property.
It's
a
partial
4605906
owned
by
hexagon
investments,
and
it's
actually
a
building.
That's
on
cleveland,
maslin
road.
I
think
it
houses
or
did
house
norton
nutrition.
And,
let's
see
here,
I
guess
there
was
a.
There-
was
a.
K
B
Okay,
there,
the
building's
actually
on
two
parcels
but
they're,
only
rezoning
one.
K
B
B
B
Yes,
yeah,
it's
actually
59
5905
yeah
is
what
it
is:
okay,
okay,
yeah!
I
I
personally
didn't
have
an
objection
with
it.
I
guess
there
isn't
really
any
representative,
because
you
know
the
city's
processing
this
one,
so
their
administration,
I'm
sorry
and
then
whatever
comes
up
here,
the
building's
already
existing.
So
a
lot
of
the
the
architectural
review
board.
Probably
you
know
we'll
have
to
work
out
some
details
there
to
say
you
know,
there's
nothing
they're
going
to
do
because
you're
not
going
to
tear
the
building
down
start
over
again.
I
would
I
would
assume.
G
C
B
G
G
B
B
So,
let's
see
our
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
the
meeting
minutes
from
july
12
2022.,
that
was
the
property
on
heritage
parkway
and
I've
reviewed
it.
I
just
had
two
editorials
that
was
all.