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A
B
Good
afternoon,
everyone
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
for
this
meeting
of
the
Oklahoma
City
Planning
Commission
before
we
get
started,
just
want
to
make
a
few
reminders
how
some
housekeeping
items
number
one.
If
you
are
intending
to
address
the
commission,
please
come
forward
and
fill
out
one
of
those
forms
that
that
our
staff
has
I
believe
that
they're
outside
or
do
you
all
have
some
up
here
as
well.
B
Some
extra
forms
yeah
so
take
the
time.
Please
fill
out
one
of
those
forms
when
your
name
is
called.
Please
come
to
the
microphone.
Give
us
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
You'll
have
five
minutes
to
address
the
commission.
We
do
reserve
the
right
to
limit
your
the
length
of
your
comments
for
any
repetitious
comments.
We'd
also
ask
that,
if
you're
here
with
a
large
group
that
you
find
a
spokesperson
to
speak
on
behalf
of
all
of
the
issues
that
your
group
may
have,
the
golden
rule
is
in
full
effect.
B
D
B
B
And
the
motion
passes
I
apologize,
we're
dealing
with
the
technology
trying
to
make
sure
the
technology
is,
is
working
up
here
and
it
looks
like
it's
mostly
my
user
error,
we're
now
in
line
for
continuance,
requests,
we'll
begin
with
uncontested
requests.
E
F
B
We
and
is
there
anyone
here
wishing
to
be
heard
on
any
of
those
items
signed.
Commissioner.
B
B
Are
there
any
additional
continuance
requests.
E
E
B
G
B
All
right,
then,
the
mo
we
just
need
a
motion
to
accept
the
con,
the
new
okay,
we're
checking
on
the
date.
Sorry.
C
Commissioner,
Claire
I'll
move
to
approve
the
new
continuance
requests
as
read,
including.
B
B
B
H
How
are
you
doing
today,
I'm
Ross
Morris,
with
Morris
engineering
representing
the
applicant,
who
happens
to
be
here?
Also
there
was
one
te
about
the
building
line
and
we're
an
agreement
with
the
20-foot
requested
and
then
past
that,
if
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
them.
B
I
J
J
Hello,
my
name
is
Kai
Swartz
address
8000
rubber,
Road,
Oklahoma
City.
This
is
for
final
plot
approval
and
variances
on
sidewalks,
with
the
nature
of
this
development.
It's
large
Watts
we're
trying
to
keep
it
as
wooded
and
natural
as
possible,
which
is
why
we
are
asking
for
the
sidewalk
variants.
B
Thank
you
anything
else,
ready
for
questions,
no
go
ahead.
You're
talking
about
the
are
there
any
sidewalks
on
Wilshire.
B
That
makes
sense
to
me
any
questions.
Thoughts
from
commissioners.
C
C
C
Yeah
I
mean
it's
not
so
much
the
the
sidewalks.
You
know
external,
because
we
know
this
probably
is
not
going
to
be
a
neighborhood
that
people
are
walking
to
and
from
the
neighborhood
but
internally.
If
somebody,
you
know,
wants
to
go
for
a
walk,
they're
going
to
be
required
to
walk
in
in
the
street,
it's
true
less.
Unless
you
have
and
commit
to
any
kind
of
trail
system
behind
Lots.
We.
J
Do
not
have
a
commitment
to
that,
but
we
I
mean
the
smallest
lot
size
in
this
is
an
acre,
some
of
them
being
three
acres
and
there's
even
a
couple
over
10
acres.
So
with
doing
City
regulations
on
the
streets
being
26
feet
or
wider,
and
everything
that
we.
J
Going
to
have
hardly
any
traffic
to
really
I
mean
be
a
hazard
for
the
civilians
walking
around
the
neighborhood
and
it
I
mean
I
know
it's
not
a
big
deal
but
to
anybody
else,
but
the
feasibility
when
we
have
such
a
small
amount
of
lots
and
that
many
you
know,
linear
feet
of
sidewalk-
is
very
costly,
prohibited.
B
And
also
just
given
the
character
of
that
area,
it's
it
is
very
wooded
I'm
more
open
to
it.
Typically
I
would
I
would
say
I'm
a
stickler
for
the
sidewalks
too,
so
I
I
could
I
could
be
persuaded,
though,
on
this
any
other
thoughts
from
commissioners.
D
I,
like
sidewalks,
but
I'm
good,
defer
to
I
understand
that
the
particular
is
the
case.
Have
you
considered
sidewalks
on
one
side
of
the
street.
J
I
mean
if
it
was
a
requirement
we
would
but,
like
I,
said
we're
trying
to
keep
this
as
natural
and
the
beauty
of
all
the
trees
and
I
mean
we're
the
way
we're
going
to
do
the
streets
and
the
curbs
are
not
going
to
be
your
big
face.
Curves
are
going
to
going
to
be
the
sloped
and
just
trying
to
kind
of
make
everything
kind
of
disappear
to
where
visit
the
visibility
is.
It's
all
natural
and
not
gonna,
have
have
as
little
Hardscape
as
possible.
D
D
J
D
C
The
rules
were
the
rules
they
wouldn't
need
us
here,
I
mean
if,
if
the
intent
of
the
neighborhood
is
to
be
natural
and
aesthetic
and
I
get
that
I
think
your
neighbors
are
going
to
get
a
one
out
going
to
want
to
get
out
and
experience
that
so
I
think
they
need
a
place
to
walk.
That's
not
in
the
street.
B
Well,
I
think
it
sounds
like
the
best
thing
to
do
would
be
to
just
let's
just
vote.
Is
there
anyone
here
wishing
to
be
heard
on
this
item
c7528
and
I?
Don't
have
anyone
signed
up
to
speak.
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Terry
Mundy
and
I
have
the
property
at
the
furthest
end
that
the
north
of
where
this
proposed
development
is
and
I
guess.
My
question
is:
I
heard
that
they're
supposed
to
be
a
pond,
a
possibly
a
dam,
that's
being
made
or
created.
So
my
concern
is
I'm.
I
have
a
five
acre
lot
at
the
very
end
and
I
was
wondering:
is
a
dam
or
a
pond
going
to
be
in
this
development?
Also,
okay,.
J
J
You
can't
hardly
see
it
where
the
the
white
Lots
in
and
there's
the
big
piece
of
the
Big
Lot
on
top,
which
is
10.,
there's
a
creek
that
runs
East
West
right
there
and
my
intention
right.
There
is
to
put
a
bridge
to
cross
the
creek
to
gain
access
to
the
back
13
acres
and
on
that
Creed
To
Dam
up
about
an
acre
yeah.
You
can
probably
see
it
right
there
better.
J
J
B
O
Don't
know
if,
if
you
have
an
answer
to
that
part
of
it,
but
the
final
plan
should
be
in
for
review
in
our
in
our
review
queue.
B
O
O
We're
going
to
look
at
at
what's
happening
with
the
drainage
patterns
if
the
as
far
as
recourse,
then,
if,
if
there's,
if
there's
problems
in
the
future,
that
would
wind
up
being
an
issue,
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
civil
matter
between
the
two
property
owners.
That
would
not
be
anything
that
that
the
city
would
get
involved
in
as
far
as
trying
to
mediate
any
disputes
or
any
differences
of
opinion.
As
to
what
has
happened,
they
they'd
be
welcome
to
look
at
any
plans
that
have
been
submitted.
O
Those
would
have
would
need
to
be
requested
through
the
city
clerk's
office
as
an
open
records
request,
but
anything
that
has
been
submitted
to
the
city
for
review
would
be
available
to
neighbors
residents
or
the
general
public
for
for
them
to
look
at
as
well.
N
Well,
at
least
to
to
my
understanding,
according
to
this
layout
here
that
I
have
first
and
foremost
it.
It
wasn't
on
the
paperwork
as
far
as
a
dam
or
a
pond,
and
then,
when
I
heard
that
it
was
supposed
to
be
one
that
property
line,
I
would
say
it's
another,
maybe
30
or
40
feet
away
from
a
natural
Ravine
that
goes
behind
our
property.
N
So
my
concern
is
if,
if
a
dam
or
something
is
created,
will
that
create
an
issue
on
my
property
where
the
Ravine
is
because
there's
a
deep
ravine
and
then
my
actual
house
in
my
driveway
is
probably
another
20
20
feet
or
so
away
from
the
natural
Ravine.
That's
about
20
feet
deep.
So
my
concern
is:
if
there's
going
to
be
a
dam,
that's
made,
is
it
going
to
impede
the
flow
of
natural
water
when
it
comes
through.
O
N
O
From
from
my
and
I
may
have
misunderstood,
but
from
what
the
description
that
that
I
was
understanding,
is
that
the
there's,
a
small
Creek,
that
branches
off
of
the
major
Creek,
so
major
Creek
is
running
North
and
South,
essentially
along
their
East
property
line.
And
then
there
is
a
smaller
finger
of
this
Creek.
O
You
need
to
get
a
hiring
engineer
for
that,
but
I
will
tell
you
what
I
think
is
that
if
they
Dam
up
the
small
trib
that
runs
off
to
the
West,
that
that
would
wouldn't
have
any
impact
on
your
property.
It
would
actually
be
impounding
the
water
on
the
applicants
property
on
that
on
the
large
lot.
That's
on
the
North
End.
N
And
I'll
say
this,
and
this
would
be
my
life
statement,
and
that
was
a
concern
because
last
week
I
actually
got
out
and
I
put
my
snake
boots
on
and
I
walked
the
property
and
it's
very
wooded
and
the
concern
is
you're
right.
If
there
are
multiple
streams
going
through.
So
the
concern
is
like
well,
we
have
a
ravine
here.
O
B
And
I'm
happy
to
help,
if
at
all,
with
the
request,
if
you
wanted
to
get
any
additional
documentation
about,
what's
been
filed
so
far
and
just
happy
to
help
with
that
process.
At
this
point,
this
is
the
the
final
plot,
so
it
would
not
be
coming
back
to
us
for
any
additional
review,
it's
going
to
be
with
City
staff
so
but
happy
to
help
with
that
process.
Okay,
okay,
thank.
P
Clock
over,
forgive
me,
remember
the
protocol,
but
my
name
is
Kathy
Alfred
and
I'm,
his
wife
and
I.
Just
my
problem
is
I.
Don't
see
what
you
have,
what
you
plan
on
doing
up
there,
so
you
can
change
things
up.
I,
don't
I
tried
to
have
a
polite
conversation
with
you,
the
last
visit
but
you're
very
condescending.
So
my
concern
is
this
and
I
want
to
be
a
good
neighbor
to
you
and
I.
Want
you
to
be
a
good
neighbor
to
me.
I
think.
P
We've
all
have
bought
into
this
area
because
of
its
natural
wooded
Beauty
and
I.
Don't
want
to
see
an
ugly
Dam
I,
don't
want
to
ugly
damn
and
I.
Don't
want
stagnant
water
that
produces
mosquitoes
in
West
Nile
disease
and
maybe
some
black
moccasins
or
whatever
and
I
like
the
fact
that
I
can
see
wildlife
in
trees
so
I'm
against
this,
because
apparently
once
it
leaves
this
committee,
we
don't
have
a
say:
we
just
have
to
get
a
a
Hired
Hand.
P
If
you
were
a
lawyer
to
speak
for
us
or
a
Civic
engineer,
so
that's
my
problem.
Why
isn't
it
seen
and
shown?
You
knew
what
you
were
going
to
do
because
you're,
the
one
that
told
me
about
the
issue
when
we
came
here,
you
and
you
were
very
very
very
very
condescending.
I
was
very
polite.
The
gentleman
that
were
working
with
you
were
politer
than
you
were,
and
you
sold
me
and
I'm
going
to
have
a
damn
and
you
told
me,
I
can
do
whatever
I
want
to
with
my
property.
P
I
can
do
whatever
I
want
to
well
when
your
property,
it
affects
the
way
that
I
live
on
my
property,
then
we're
not
being
good
neighbors.
So
I
am
against
this
because
to
me
I,
don't
trust
your
words
and
I
can't
see
what
you're
going
to
do.
So
that
makes
me
distrustful
of
this
process
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
well.
B
B
These
images
are
to
guide
us
and
help
us,
but
what's
most
important
is
what's
actually
written
down
so
again,
I'm
happy
to
help
with
the
review
of
the
documents
that
have
been
filed
with
the
city
already
and
and
just
the
most
important
thing
is
to
continue
to
monitor
any
damage
that
may
happen
to
your
property,
but
I
like
to
be
an
optimist
and
I
trust,
our
the
city's
review
process
and
and
hopeful,
and
that
we
can
resolve
this
in
a
way,
that's
still
respectful
of
the
property
that
you
have
so
happy
to
again
still
work
with
you
all
on
this,
as
as
the
process
moves
forward.
O
Ahead,
I
want
to
interject
just
a
couple
more
things
about
this,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
dam.
That's
constructed
to
Oklahoma,
Water
Resources
board
could
have
some
jurisdiction
over
that
and
would
have
to
sign
off
on
it
as
well,
so
that
that
would
be
another
Avenue
of
protection
for
the
the
downstream
Property
Owners.
That's
important
and
I,
don't
know
if
that
application
has
been
made
or
not.
On
one
other
item,
we're
going
I'll
go
back
and
revisit
sidewalks.
O
You
guys
can
handle
the
part
on
the
inside,
but
it's
been
the
city,
Engineers
opinion
and
directive
on
all
of
these
developments
along
section
line
roads
that
we
require
the
developer
to
build
the
sidewalks
along
section
line,
roads
and
I
know
we
get
the
argument
a
lot
that
well
there's
no
sidewalks
out
here
now,
there's
not
a
sidewalk
here.
Why
should
we
put
them
in
well?
O
K
K
Clearly
we
can
talk
about
sidewalks
or
not,
but
we
could
not
at
this
stage
say
yes
or
no
to
a
dam
right
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
clear.
Okay,
with
that
I
appreciate
what
you
said
about
the
Oklahoma
Water
Resource
Board,
that's
got
to
go
through
there,
so
well
we
can
rule
whether
or
not
we
want
this
plant.
K
We
appreciate
all
that
information
about
the
dam
I
was
I
was
listening
intently,
so
the
owrb
Oakland
Water
Resource
Board
of
things,
so
you
need
to
make
sure
they
know
about
you
and
you're
concerned
with
it
now
back
to
the
sidewalks.
Thanks
for
that,
I'll
turn
that
over
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear
on
the
dam.
I
didn't
think
we
could
yes
or
no.
The
dam
specifically.
B
And
it
did-
and
we've
had
some
conversations
before
about
this,
which
required
me
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
that
surprised
me
that
that
was
not
among
the
scope
of
things
that
would
get
considered
at
a
preliminary
plot
stage
and
then
had
to
be
finalized
when
it
got
to
us
for
the
final
plat.
B
But
again,
it's
just
gonna
have
to
be
something
that's
monitored
and
there
are
other
entities
with
that
responsibility.
So
I
cannot
make
a
motion.
It
sounds
like
commissioner
Claire
you're
going
to
be
up
first
to
tell
us
about
which
way
we're
going
on
sidewalks
and
we'll
just
vote
vote
until
we
get
a
majority.
C
B
D
I
will
sure.
Okay
can
I
ask
a
question
to
the
applicant.
The
preliminary
flat
had
sidewalks
right,
no,
sir.
No,
so
how
does
that
work
on
on
the
preliminary
platter?
Are
we
not
even
looking
at
sidewalks
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
so
this
didn't
already
come
up
and
then
the
the
way
that
this
is
written?
It's
it's!
The
the
sidewalks
are
required
to
be
constructed
when
the
homeowners
have
purchased
a
lot
and
are
permitting
a
home
right
or
or
the
developers
permitting
a
home,
so
they
get
built
as
the
homes
get
built.
J
Well,
that
that
is
true.
It
still
to
me:
it's
it's,
not
necessarily
the
cost.
It's
the
Aesthetics
of
it,
which
is
what
we're
trying
to
do,
is
keep
this
as
natural.
Just
like
our
neighbors
want
I
mean
we
want
the
beauty
of
the
trees.
We
want
the
beauty
of
the
land,
I
mean
we're
already
putting
in
this
big
old
city.
J
D
D
B
Mean
I
I
think
at
this
point,
commissioner,
govane
I
think
we're
we're
at
an
impasse
on
this.
It's
a
matter
of
whether
this
commission
is
willing
to
to
approve
of
the
variants
that
that
the
applicant
has
asked
for
and
I
think
those
are
all
valid
arguments
to
say
no
to
the
variants,
so
I
think
it
may
be
best
for
us
just
to
go
ahead
and
vote
on
the
variants
and
see
where
we
are.
If
the
majority
of
us
is.
Q
There,
if
I
might
chairman
yes,
please
Jared
Martin
planning
department
just
for
a
little
bit
of
clarity,
so
the
the
variance
that
they're
requesting
wouldn't
affect
the
section
Line
Road
so
which
I
think
you
have
already
determined.
But
that
is
correct.
The
code
actually
chapter
59
would
actually
address
that.
So
whatever
that
requires
is
what
they'd
have
to
do
on
that
one:
the
internal
sidewalks,
the
reason
they're
requesting
a
variant.
Q
So
if
this
were
an
RA
development,
zoned
rra
in
an
urban
media
medium
part
of
town
with
an
urban
medium
Luda
excuse
me
rural
medium
Luda.
They
wouldn't
be
required
to
do
the
sidewalks
and
because
this
is
a
style
of
development,
that's
similar
to
what
would
be
an
RA
development,
but
it
happens
to
be
in
an
urban
low
intensity
Luda
with
a
on
our
existing
R1
zoning,
but
they
can't
get
the
services
they
need
to
hit
that
density.
Q
That
would
normally
be
allowed
in
that
zoning
and
in
that
Luda
they're
building
a
rural
style
development,
but
because
it's
in
those
two
areas,
the
R1
and
the
urban
low
it
triggers
That
Sidewalk
requirement.
And
so
that's
why
they're
asking
for
that
variance
so
had
this
been
a
couple
miles
away,
they
wouldn't
even
be
requesting
it
because
it
wouldn't
be
required.
B
C
All
right,
you're
up,
we'll,
take
the
variance
first
album
of
approval,
of
variance
the
section
5.8.2
point
B
point
one
of
the
subdivision
regulations
related
to
the
to
the
Reconstruction
of
sidewalks
along
internal
roadways.
So.
B
Just
for
clarity
for
Commissioners
to
vote
Yes
would
mean
that
we
will
allow
them
to
not
have
internal
sidewalks
to
vote.
No
will
be
a
requirement
that
they
will
have
internal
sidewalks.
Just
want
to
be
clear.
The
motion
is
to
approve
of
the
variance
in
section
5.8.2
point
B
point
one
of
the
subdivision
regulations
that
motion's
been
seconded
by
Commission
on
the
forge.
Please
cast
your
votes
when
available.
B
You
need
six
votes
for
variants
to
be
approved,
so
that
motion
has
failed.
We
are
now
in
line
for
a
motion
on
the
item.
B
B
F
In
line
for
item
nine
item,
nine
is
KC
7525
final
plot
of
Manning
Estates,
section
one
located
north
of
Southwest,
119th,
Street
and
West
of
South
MacArthur
Boulevard,
and
a
variance
to
section
5.10.5
point
B
of
the
subdivision
regulations.
G
B
B
B
B
I
think
I
think
it's
stuck
well,
then
we'll
go
for
we'll
go
forward
with
The
Voice
vote
again
on
the
variants.
Commissioner,
Claire
yeah.
B
B
K
B
F
Mike
is
having
trouble,
I,
know,
item
12,
KC
7532
preliminary
plant
of
Harbor
Landing
located
south
of
Northwest
3rd
Street
and
West
of
North
Cemetery
Road.
T
T
It's
Zell
with
Johnson
and
Associates
wanting
Sheridan
Avenue.
This
is
a
plot
that
should
look
familiar
last
year.
This
commission
recommended
approval
and
city
council
ultimately
approved
the
Spud
for
this
development.
It
is
a
duplex
development.
This
application
has
five
Tes,
which
we
agree
to
all
of
them,
walking
into
the
chambers.
Today,
I
did
receive
a
protest
letter
for
Mr
Justin,
Martin
I,
don't
know
if
he's
here
today
to
speak,
I
did
review
the
letter.
D
T
You
recall
during
this
process
during
this
process
we
did
have
protests
I
think
from
the
neighborhood
to
the
west
and
maybe
to
the
north
as
well.
We
hosted
a
neighborhood
meeting.
We
made
some
changes
to
the
document
and
I
by
the
time
I
got
to
Planning
Commission
I,
don't
know
that
any
neighbors
had
shown
up
and
we
didn't
have
the
protest
at
Council.
T
The
protest
letter
specifically
speaks
to
the
his
property
values.
The
concerns
of
her
duplex
and
the
kind
of
typical
concerns
you'd
see
with
a
density
of
this
type.
This
is,
in
conformance
with
one
of
the
two
site
plans
that
was
included
in
the
Spud.
If
you
recall
there
was
a
lot
of
Conversation
Over,
The,
Connection
North
to
Third
Street,
and
whether
or
not
we
take
access
directly
at
the
cemetery,
ultimately
I
think
our
office
was
comfortable
with
either
option
that
the
commission
saw
fit.
T
There
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
that
at
the
last
hearing
and
looking
at
it
just
the
separation
from
third
to
our
proposed
drive
out
on
Cemetery.
While
it
met
separation
distance,
we
thought
the
best
path
forward
in
terms
of
Access
Control
along
Cemetery.
Road
was
to
not
have
another
Street
intersect
that
close
to
third,
so
that
was
the
intent.
That's
what
we've
come
back
with
if
it
is
the
commission's
desire
to
reverse
that
and
close
the
one
to
Third
and
open
it
to
cemetery
we're
open
to
that.
T
R
R
I
I
don't
see
many
changes
from
the
original
Spud,
so
I
am
I,
am
in
agreement
with
this
application.
I
don't
have
any
questions
on
it
and.
B
I
I
will
state
that
that
connection
South
would
be
consistent
with
our
our
our
regulations
for
us
to
have
that
connection,
and
are
there
any
questions
from
commissioners
before
we
hear
from.
T
And
so
just
for
the
record,
this
is
identical
to
what
was
included
in
the
Spud,
except
that
it's
actually
one
duplex
lot
less
than
what
was
shown
after
surveying
and
engineering
came
through.
We
couldn't
fit
that
extra
one,
so
it's
actually
less
dense
than
what
you
would
have
seen
at
Planning,
Commission,
okay,.
B
B
This
commission
today
does
not
have
the
authority
to
take
to
take
away
those
the
right
to
build
duplexes
on
this
property,
so
we
we
are
not
here
to
debate
whether
or
not
duplexes
are
appropriate,
but
we
are
here
to
debate
this
plot
and
whether
the
layout
of
this
plat
and
the
subdivision
regulations
are
being
met.
So
it's
just
important
to
understand
we're
not
here
to
redevate
whether
duplexes
are
appropriate.
We
had
that
debate
in
zoning
and
so
now
we're
at
a
different
phase
of
the
process.
B
That
being
said,
I
think
the
first
person
that
I
have
signed
up
to
speak
is
Martin
brecht
and
I
apologize
if
I
messed,
that
name
up.
B
S
Yes,
okay,
you
got
it
I'm
just
here
to
ask
some
questions
regarding
this:
planned
project
is
Stage
34
units
duplex
units.
S
The
second
question
is:
where
will
they
access
entries
be
because
I
can
tell
you
living
in
right
across
the
street
in
Settlers
Ridge
North
Cemetery
Road
is
getting
clogged
up
already
and
with
37
more
units,
it's
going
to
be
even
worse,
so
the
other
question
is:
are
we
going
to
put
a
light
at
Cemetery,
Road
and
Third
Street,
because
it's
going
to
be
needed
Rush
Hour
morning,
Rush
Hour
evening?
It
gets
clogged
up.
S
Will
there
be
outside
fencing
that
will
be
brick
or
other
materials
like
we
have
at
Settlers,
Ridge
have
HOA
covenants
been
constructed
or
developed,
and
finally,
how
will
utilities
be
brought
in?
Are
there?
Is
there
going
to
be
additional
34
units
which
depletes
the
water
pressure
for
us
and
everybody
else
around
as
well
as
electricity?
B
Will
say
a
few
things
I'm
certain
the
applicant
has
answers
to
most
of
those
questions,
but
I
will
say
a
few
things.
This
commission
does
not
have
the
authority
to
implement
an
HOA.
We
do
not
have
that
Authority.
That
is
not
within
the
scope
of
our
review.
Nor
do
we
have
the
authority.
Should
my
understanding
is
the
applicant
is
a
private
property
owner
who
intends
to
operate
privately.
However,
this
commission
does
not
have
the
authority
to
prevent
this
or
any
other
property
from
being
sold
to
any
government
entity
or
any
other
private
entity.
B
So
as
far
as
the
scope
of
all
review
today,
that
won't
be
a
part
of
it.
Whether
or
not
this
will
be
public
or
private.
Now,
as
far
as
the
intention
to
rent
or
to
make
it
or
or
not,
that's
also
not
going
to
be
within
the
scope
of
our
review
today,
but
I
believe
you've
asked
a
number
of
questions
and
I'm
certain.
The
applicant
is
prepared
to
answer
I.
T
Think
I
got
all
of
them,
so
if
I
miss
anything,
please
let
me
know
first
I
think
you
said
surrounding
us:
our
homes,
not
duplexes
I,
think
these
are.
These
are
still
homes
just
want
to
make
that
clear
people
will
be
living
in
these
there's.
The
intention
is
not
to
be
section.
Eight
Cemetery
Road
is
a
funded
Bond
project,
which
I
believe
is
expected
to
start
by
the
end
of
the
year.
Mr
Butler
might
help
me
with
that,
but
I've
gone
off
memory
from
the
zoning
case.
T
T
In
terms
of
material,
the
SPD
did
lay
out
it
had
the
standard,
architectural
material,
it's
70,
brick
or
masonry
materials,
so
that
could
be
brick
stone,
concrete
board.
There
is
no
minimum
square
footage
per
unit.
There
will
be
an
HOA,
the
ccnrs
have
not
yet
been
developed.
It
is
not
determined
at
this,
and
so
there's
no
rental
restriction
on
that.
It's
not
determined
at
this
time
whether
these
will
be
sold
or
a
portion
of
them
will
be
rental.
The
Spud
also
did
lay
out
requirements
for
site
proof.
T
M
B
B
I
did
receive
confirmation
from
our
planning
director
that
that
there
is
widening
underway,
I
believe
on
Cemetery.
C
B
T
Good
afternoon,
Mark
zitzel
with
Johnson
and
Associates
address
is
one
East,
Sheridan
Avenue
there's
a
specific
plan
that
is
somewhat
different
than
the
typical
specific
plan.
You
would
see.
Typically
you're
reviewing
Landscaping
building
placement
parking
accounts.
Everything
that
can
confirms
that
the
site
is
in
conformance
with
beauty.
This
one
is
a
little
bit
unique
in
that.
What
is
being
requested
today
is
specific
approval
over
an
architectural
material.
T
When
we
took
this
PUD
through,
we
had
a
significant
amount
of
renderings
and
building
elevations.
That
showed
what
we
believed
to
be
the
product
that
we
were
using,
which
was
a
driveit
material
or
a
reinforced
efis
I
was
language
provided
from
adci
they're,
the
architect
on
the
project.
They
do
Resort
projects
across
the
country
and
have
found
success
in
using
this
exact
product
on
all
of
their
other
Resorts.
So
with
this
one,
we
had
crafted
language
in
the
Pud
that
allowed
for
stucco
and
we
specifically
noted
reinforced
efis
material
as
permitted.
T
If
you
recall
this
was
in
the
scenic,
River
design
overlay,
this
PUD
removed
that
from
that
overlay
District.
In
doing
so,
we
worked
with
staff
to
include
certain
language
that
may
have
been
found
in
the
overlay.
One
of
it
was
a
restriction
on
simulated
stucco
product.
At
the
time
it
was
our
understanding
that
the
reinforced
ethos
would
be
different
than
the
simulated
Stucco
Material
we
got
to
permitting.
T
Ultimately,
that's
what's
LED
staff
to
be
agreeable
to
the
amendment
to
bring
this
application
before
you,
so
the
material
that's
proposed.
We've
provided
a
significant
amount
of
background,
in
addition
to
warranty
material,
to
show
that
the
material
proposes,
just
as
durable
as
the
other
materials
that
are
allowed
in
the
Pud,
and
so
with
that.
We're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
But
we
would
ask
for
your
approval,
because
this
would
allow
our
13
building
permits
to
be
issued
so
that
construction
can
continue.
B
Thank
you
Mark.
This
is
in
my
award,
and
this
was
a
very
a
very
complex
project
to
say
the
least,
and
so
I
appreciate
all
the
background.
Work.
That's
been
done
after
having
numerous
conversations
with
commissioner
govine,
who
is
an
expert
being
an
architect,
an
expert
on
the
different
types
of
materials.
I
I've
been
convinced
that
this
is
within
the
scope
of
of
of
the
materials
that
are
allowed
and
is
of
a
sufficient
quality.
B
I
think
this
is
a
reminder.
This
whole
issue,
though,
is
a
reminder
to
us
as
a
commission,
to
be
very
careful
about
the
wording
of
the
approvals
that
we
allow
for
for
different
type
of
of
exterior
finishes,
and
so
just
being
very
careful
about
what
Our
intention
is
and
making
sure
that
that's
clearly
stated
when
we're
when
we're
writing
T's
and
looking
at
the
at
the
staff
reports
Etc,
so
I
I,
don't
I'm
in
support,
but
I
are
there
any
other
questions
from
commissioners.
D
I'll
I'll
just
comment
that
I'm
also
in
support
that
this
is
a
it's
a
high
quality
exterior
finish
system
that
is
equivalent
to
stucco,
which
was
already
allowed
in
the
original
application.
So
we're
not
trying
to
backtrack
and
re-argue
that
topic
so
good
work,
putting
together
a
thorough
package
of
information,
yeah.
B
V
Good
afternoon
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
Kelly
work.
My
address
is
105
North,
Hudson,
Oklahoma,
City
and
I'm.
Here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
Jay
Ruiz
Construction.
This
one
has
been
on
your
agenda.
A
number
of
times
we've
been
working
with
the
Windsor
Forest
neighborhood,
which
is
their
surrounding
this
property
to
the
west
and
to
the
north.
This
is
a
really
an
infill
project.
V
This
two
and
a
half
acre
tract
it's
located
there
at
the
northeast
corner
of
Purdue,
Avenue
and
Northwest
16th
Street,
so
just
a
little
bit
east
of
MacArthur.
What
is
what
had
gotten
a
lot
of
attention
when
we
first
brought
this
application?
V
There's
an
existing
six
thousand
square
foot,
non-residential
commercial
type
building
that
exists
on
this
property
that
has
been
there
for
for
decades
and
when
the
Spud
was
initially
presented
proposed,
the
request
included
an
event
center
use
for
that
existing
six
thousand
square
foot
building
and
that
attracted
a
lot
of
attention
and
opposition
from
the
neighborhood.
So
we
we
revised
the
Spud
we've.
We
have
removed
that
event
center
use
entirely
from
the
Spud,
the
existing
6
000
square
foot.
V
Building
that
I
mentioned
will
now
be
devoted
to
church
use,
so
the
only
uses
that
will
be
allowed
will
be
single
family
residential
and,
as
you
see
from
the
conceptual
plan,
that's
on
the
screen
now
we're
proposing
to
have
residential,
single-family
residential
lots
there
along
Purdue.
There
is
the
existing
single-family
residence
on
the
property
that
fronts
onto
Northwest,
16th
Street,
that
you
also
see
and
then
that
the
church
building
will
front
also
onto
Northwest
16th
Street.
So
we're
at
this
point
we're
not
aware
of
any
remaining
opposition
to
the
Spud.
B
Thank
you
any
questions
or
comments
from
commissioners.
This
is
certainly
a
welcome
improvement
from
The,
Event
Center,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
it
I
know.
I
did
visit
with
neighbors
previously
with
the
previous
application
and
and
was
able
to
visit
with
Mr
work
about
this
new
proposal.
It
sounds
like
a
good
way
to
to
handle
this.
This
whole
thing
so
I'm
pleased
with
that.
Just
ready
for
a
motion
I
just.
V
C
C
D
Oh
here
we
go
yay.
W
Afternoon
everybody,
my
name
is
Patel
address,
is
621
North,
Idaho
Avenue.
The
goal
is
to
rezone
from
R1
to
R2,
so
we
could
just
build
a
duplex.
Thank.
B
You
this
is
in
my
ward
and
I,
am
in
support.
I
also
received
a
message
from
the
president
of
the
JFK
neighborhood
association,
in
which
this
property
is
located,
expressing
full
support
and
I.
Guess:
there's
been
a
conversation
with
with
the
neighborhood
association
in
there
in
sports,
so
I
have
no
questions.
It's
consistent
with
the
area
to
have
a
duplex
development
here
so
I'm
in
support
any
questions.
Comments
from
commissioners.
B
X
X
B
Okay,
commissioner
Noble.
L
Speak:
okay,
when
I
read
the
the
application
and
going
through
it.
The
first
thing
that
came
to
my
mind
was
this
would
probably
be
an
Spud,
not
a
straight
zoning,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
the
surrounding
residential
zoning-
that's
already
here
and
so
and
talking
we
had
a
pre-meeting.
We
talked
about
this
and
also
with
staff.
B
And
so
I
think
it's
important
to
add
to
to
what
you're
saying
commissioner
Noble
is
that,
with
the
current
zoning
and
I
I
understand
that
this
is
not
your
plan
I
at
least
I,
believe
based
on
our
conversations
with
staff,
that
if,
if
this
property
ownership
were
to
change,
those
Property
Owners
would
have
the
ability
and
maybe
the
desire
to
to
demolish
the
existing
buildings,
and
if
they
had
the
ability
to
rebuild
under
C3
regulations
they
can
take
up.
They
can
have
100
lot
coverage
on
that
lot.
B
There
would
be
very
limited
restrictions
that
would
prevent
us
that
would
allow
us
to
protect
the
neighborhood,
that's
to
the
west
and
so
I
share.
Commissioner
Noble's
concern
that
if
we
were
to
Grant,
if
we
were
to
approve
of
this
application,
the
way
that
it
currently
is,
it
does
not
give
enough
assurances
that
the
neighborhood
would
have
the
ability
to
protect
it
from
some
of
the
negative
consequences
of
some
of
the
uses
that
are
allowed
under
C3.
So
I
share
that
opinion
with
him,
but
I.
B
Of
course,
we
are
just
two
people
on
the
commission
and
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
Commissioners
on
this.
B
So
at
this
point
you
you
have,
you
have
a
choice.
Your
choice
is
to
no
matter
what
our
decision
is.
We
are
making
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
It
sounds
like
there's
consensus
that
if
you
are
unwilling
to
to
go
back
and
redo
the
proposal
to
be
an
Spud,
that
the
recommendation
of
this
commission
will
be
to
deny
this
application,
but
that
process
will
then
go
to
the
city.
Council
and
the
city
council
will
have
the
final
say.
B
H
X
B
March
23rd
meeting,
so
the
motion
is
to
to
continue
this
item
until
the
March
23rd
meeting
that
motion's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
Claire.
Please
cast
your
votes
when
available.
T
Good
afternoon
Mark
as
it
sounds,
Johnson
and
Associates
addresses
one
East,
Sheridan
Avenue
before
you
use
what
we
believe
to
be
a
very
exciting
application.
I
think
it's
been
in
the
works
now
for
quite
some
time,
multiple
years.
This
is
the
green
pasture
Studio.
It
is
a
film
and
education
center
likely
in
the
future
for
production.
T
If
this
PUD
was
to
be
approved,
they
came
in
met
with
the
city
and
I
think
multiple
officials
some
time
ago,
and
it
was
determined
at
the
time
that
the
zoning
that
they
have
in
place
allows
for
school
and
education
uses
since
right
now,
they're
a
training
facility
that
works.
Ultimately,
their
goal
is
to
house
production
Crews
and
do
production
much
like
Prairie
Surf
and
the
Cox
Convention
Center
downtown,
so
the
site
plan,
that's
in
the
packet
is
their
ideal
full
build
out
the
background
here.
What
led
to
this
application?
T
The
city
received
arpa
money
and
in
a
portion
of
that
money
was
set
aside
for
technical
assistance
for
local
companies
to
accomplish
different
activities.
In
some
cases
it
was
storefront
improvements
and
others.
It
was
the
ability
to
get
rezoned
to
allow
for
their
future
operations,
so
they
were
awarded
that
money
and
part
of
it
is
being
used
for
this
rezoning
process
to
have
the
site
ready
for
building
permits
when
the
future
comes
for
the
next
level
of
development.
T
So
it's
a
unique
PUD
and
then,
as
you
can
imagine,
our
current
zoning
code
does
not
have
uses
specific
to
the
film
industry,
and
so,
when
you
think
about
the
film
industry
you're
going
to
have
trailers
out
there,
you're
going
to
have
warehousing
you're
going
to
have
storage
facilities
rather
than
file
a
PUD.
That
simply
said,
every
land
use
use
unit
is
permitted
in
this
PUD.
That
would
likely
cause
a
lot
of
concern,
because
if
this
development
went
away
and
the
school
was
to
be
torn
down,
we
wanted
some
level
of
comfort.
T
So
we
worked
with
staff
quite
a
bit
and
we
came
up
with
language
to
allow
the
uses
that
are
there
today
and
office
to
be
allowed
in
the
future.
We
then
added
a
significant
number
of
uses,
but
we
restricted
those
uses
to
be
ancillary
to
the
main
facility
of
film
and
Studio
industry
support.
So
the
goal-
and
the
idea
here
is
when
a
warehouse
needs
to
come
in
or
trailers
are
parked
on
site.
T
They're
allowed
to
do
so
when
they're,
in
conjunction
with
this
industry,
that
prevents
this
from
being
torn
down
and
becoming
an
Amazon
facility
in
the
future.
Anything
like
that
would
need
to
be
rezoned
I
think
we
have
two
te's
we're
in
agreement
with
those,
so
we're
not
asking
for
any
variances
on
this
application.
So
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
your
questions,
but
we
would
ask
for
your
recommendation
of
approval
today.
B
Thank
you
Mark,
and
this
isn't
in
my
ward,
I
am
I.
Think
all
of
us
are
aware
of
the
growing
Economic
Opportunity
for
Oklahoma
City
and
frankly,
the
state
that
the
film
industry
has
I
am
very
happy
to
have
something
like
this
in
in
Ward,
7
in
general
and
and
I
think
that
this
isn't
a
great
project
and
a
great
I'm
hopeful
about
how
great
this
could
be.
B
I
do
have
one
question,
and
it's
about
the
fast
food
use
unit
and
I
understand
that
it's
ancillary
to
you
know
to
the
film
industry,
but
I'm
just
wondering
why
why
do
you
need
fast
food?
Wouldn't
they
be
catering
like
do
we
do
you
need
that
use
unit?
Sure.
T
That's
a
great
question,
so
we
don't
need
it
for
catering,
but
when
we
think
about
the
fast
food
use,
what
that
is
is
typically
Like.
A
Kava,
Zoe's
Kitchen.
It's
the
fast
casual.
Where
you
order
at
a
counter,
there's
no
drive-through
permitted.
The
thought
was
that
there
may
be
a
food
use
that
gets
Incorporated
at
full
build
out.
So
we
wanted
to
have
the
opportunity
for
that
I
think
if
it
ended
up
just
being
a
cafeteria.
B
I
I
think
my
I
guess
I'm
just
because
I'm
wondering
if
you're
going
to
sell,
but
you
wouldn't
be
selling
these
things
in
the
public,
because
it's
contingent
on
on
this
being
part
of
the
film
studio,
I
guess
my
just
main
concern
was:
does
that
mean
you're
going
to
be
able
to
temporarily
open
a
McDonald's
in
you
know
in
the
cafeteria
of
Green
Pastures,
while
you
know
and
say
we're
filming
you
see
what
I
mean.
T
Right,
that's
a
great
point.
That
is
not
the
intent,
but
if
you
think
about
the
Oklahoma
Contemporary
Art
Museum,
they
have
a
bit
of
a
fast
casual
Concept
in
there
that
really
Services
the
museum,
but
nothing
stops
anyone
from
the
outside
of
going
or
purchasing
food
there
right.
So
it's
not
advertised
as
a
restaurant
outside.
But
if
you
know
about
it,
you're
welcome
together.
This
is
solely
to
avoid
a
potential
issue
at
permitting.
B
M
B
I'm
open,
if
anybody
has
any
creative
ideas
about
limiting
this
further,
but
I
I
think
it's
okay,
based
on
the
fact
that
it
is,
you
know
again
contingent
on
this
being
a
film
studio.
B
C
B
L
B
And
the
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We've
now
reached
the
end
of
our
agenda
for
separate
items
to
be
heard
that
I
don't
believe
there
are
any
additional
items,
Communications
and
reports,
we'll
start
with
Planning
Commission
committees,
I,
don't
believe
any
of
our
committees
have
any
reports.
Planning
Commission
members,
commissioner
Claire.
B
I
B
F
Yeah
we
so
the
yes
I
did
want
to
thank
you
for
mentioning
the
the
training
session
and
I
believe
it
would
have
come
from
Keith.
Is
that
okay?
So
it
would
not
have
come
from
a
normal
person,
but
if
you
can't
the.
F
But
yeah,
please
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
about
that,
it's
for
the
new
Commissioners,
it's
the
annual
training
and
we
we
go
through
and
talk
about
various
legal
issues
how
to
best
conduct
business
as
the
as
the
Planning,
Commission
and
important
I.
Guess
things
to
have
common
mistakes
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
So
we'll
have
some
examples,
and
it's
usually
very
helpful,
so
also
wanted
to
announce
that
we
have
a
new
We've
replaced,
Paula
and
a.
F
B
F
We
can't
we
can't
have
that,
but
but
we'll
have
we'll
have
some
food.
M
B
B
U
I'm
Tom
vott
from
1121
Northwest
11th
Street
that
we
had
a
sped
process,
but
it
was
deferred
and
I
wanted
to
speak
on
that
and
I'd
like
to
Dan
govine's
email.
A
brief
meeting
with
you
would
be
appropriate
before
there
to
so
that
things
would
be
clarified
before
we
achieved
this
bad
process
and
our
concerns
are
this,
but
not
with
the
Spud
process
itself,
but
they
want
to
go
from
a
R3,
medium
density,
residential
all
the
way
to
basically
an
R4
multi-family
and
that's
a
dramatic
escalation
from
you
know.
G
H
L
T
U
Be
great
and
and
my
and
my
parents
and
other
concerned.
T
U
B
Anyone
else
wishing
to
any
other
citizens
wishing
to
be
heard
today,
all
right,
seeing
as
there's
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
other
business
so
on
a
very
well
way
too
early,
2,
47
p.m.
I
believe
that
we
are
now
a
journey.