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A
D
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
to
this
meeting
of
the
Oklahoma
City
Planning
Commission
before
we
begin
I'm
just
going
to
start
with
just
a
few
housekeeping
items.
First,
please
take
this
moment
and
silence
your
cell
phones.
If
you
would
also
just
a
reminder
that,
if
you're,
if
you're
you're
wanting
to
address
the
commission,
you
can
reach
out
to
staff
I
believe
we've
got
forms
here
for
you
to
just
fill
those
out
and
you
will
be
called
upon
to
speak
when
you
address
the
commission.
D
Please
remember
that
you'll
have
five
minutes
to
address
any
of
your
issues
or
concerns.
We
reserve
the
right
to
limit
you
in
your
comments
when
it
comes
to
making
the
repeated.
If,
if
your
neighbors
made
a
comment
about
a
concern,
you
don't
need
to
make
that
same
address
that
same
concern,
because
we're
going
to
have
that
we'll
have
heard
it
once
already.
If
you
are
here
with
a
large
group
we'd
ask
that
you
appoint
a
spokesperson
to
speak
on
behalf
of
all
of
the
concerns
that
you
have.
D
So
we
can
give
everyone
an
opportunity
to
have
their
their
issues
heard
and
as
like
any
other
public
meeting,
we
just
ask
that
you
be
respectful
of
each
other
respectful
of
the
of
the
process.
The
golden
rule
is
is
highly
in
effect
here
for
the
Planning
Commission.
So
our
next
item
is
to
receive
the
minutes
from
our
previous
meeting.
A
F
D
The
motion
passes
all
right,
I
know
it's
not
showing
up
here.
Yeah
I
didn't
see
it
on
my
screen.
Okay,
we're
now
in
line
for
continuance,
requests,
we'll
begin
with
uncontested
continuance
requests.
D
Commissioner,
Claire
moves
to
approve
the
uncontested
continuance
requests.
As
read
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
powers,.
D
D
D
D
Okay,
I'm
being
told
by
I,
mean
a
municipal
counselor
that
we
need
to
make
sure
we're.
We
know
where
everyone
how
everyone's
voted
so
we're
gonna
have
to
do
a
Voice
vote
on
the
motion
to
to
approve
the
uncontested
continuance
requests.
We'll
begin
with
commissioner
Claire
aye,
commissioner
Powers
aye,
commissioner
privet
all
right,
commissioner
Hinkle
aye,
commissioner
govine
all
right.
Commissioner
Noble
aye,
commissioner
Forge
I
I
also
vote
aye.
The
motion
passes
unanimously,
we're
now
in
line
for
new
continuance
requests
item.
G
Four
is
KC
7491
deferred
to
February
9th
item
14
case
PC
10862
deferred
to
February
23rd
item
20,
PUD
1715-sp02,
deferred
to
February,
23rd
and
finally,
item
33
case
PC
10859
defer
to
February
23rd.
H
And
Mr
chair,
if
that
was
the
right
time,
I
wanted
to
potentially
consider
adding
two
other
new
requests
for
items.
31
and
32.
I.
Think
you
would
ask
if
there
was
anybody
want
to
be
heard,
and
so
those
two
included
if
anybody
wants
to
be
heard
now
about
a
potential
inclusion
of
those
for
continued.
It's
my
understanding.
The
applicant
has
not
had
a
chance
to
discuss
with
the
neighbors.
The
applicant
is
considering
requesting
a
continuance
if
you
want
to
let
them
speak
to
themselves,
but
I'll
otherwise,
I'd
like
to
include
them.
D
I
Yeah
David
box,
522
Concord
Drive
I,
represent
the
applicant
on
items
31
and
32..
We
have
not
had
a
neighborhood
meeting.
There
was
a
protest
letter
in
the
file.
My
understanding
is
that
there
are
multiple
people
here,
seeing
that
it's
a
long
docket
and
these
items
are
at
the
end
of
the
docket.
What
I
am
trying
to
avoid
is
having
everybody
waste
their
entire
afternoon
sitting
here.
For
the
chairman
to
ask
me
the
question
whether
or
not
a
neighborhood
meeting
has
been
held
when
I
answer.
No,
you
will
undoubtedly
send
us
packing
to
go.
I
D
You
we
do
know
that
there
are
a
number
of
neighbors
who
are
here
we
are.
We
are
certainly
happy
to
consider
your
consider
the
case,
but
it
is
like
highly
likely
looking
at
the
commission
that
we
would
just
continue
it
after.
We
heard
your
concerns,
so
the
real
Ops
is.
We
can
continue
it
now.
Everybody
can
go,
can
go
home
or
we
can
wait
and
and
hear
it
fully
at
the
end
of,
but
it's
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
and
it
is
a
long
agenda
today.
D
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
neighbors,
who
maybe
maybe
I'll
just
go
with
a
show
of
hands
those
in
okay
with
continuing
the
application
today,
right
now
before
we
even
considered
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
anybody
in
favor
of
that
please
can.
D
D
D
K
J
To
be
here
and
we'll
have
to
presumably
do
that
again
on
the
23rd,
our
opposition
is
not
going
to
change
to
the
premise
of
what
we
were
notified
in
writing,
but
what
we
were
notified
in
writing
is
even
different
than
the
language
used
in
the
docket
today
for
the
agenda.
So
it's
disheartening
but
we're
here.
Can
we
not
hear
it?
We.
J
Not
we're
not
organized
as
a
a
unit,
so
we're
just
neighbors
who
all
are
here
to
express
our
opposition,
but
it's
it's
it's
inconvenient
to
stick
around
till
the
end
of
the
agenda,
but
this
is
important
to
all
of
us,
and
so
is
our
job
and
taking
off
for
a
half
day
from
work
today
and
then
doing
it
again,
February
whenever
and
then,
if
there's
a
large
contingency
of
a
show
up
again,
it
wouldn't
surprise
me
if
there
is
another
request
for
a
continuance
until
there's
less
opposition
here
to
speak.
B
H
Okay,
that's
right,
then,
let's
move
forward
with
only
the
new
continuances
of
that
were
already
read
and
excluding
31
and
32,
and
when
we
get
to
the
docket,
we'll
we'll
hear
those
out
and
apologies
in
advance
if
we
end
up
not
being
prepared
to
vote,
but
we'll
we'll
hear
yours
in
line
at
the
end
of
the
at
the
end
of
the
list.
Thank
you.
D
All
right
and
just
as
a
reminder
we
are,
we
are
preparing
to
vote
on
granting
continuances
for
items
four
14,
20
and
33..
Is
there
anyone
here
wanting
to
be
heard
on
any
of
those
items?
D
L
M
D
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
go
ahead
and
Voice
vote
that,
since
it's
not
showing
the
results.
So
we'll
begin
voting
again
on
the
motion
to
Grant
the
new
continuances
as
read
commissioner
Claire
yay,
commissioner
Powers
yay,
commissioner
Privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
laforge
and
I
vote
I
as
well.
The
motion
passes
unanimously
we're
now
in
line
for
the
consent,
docket.
G
Item
one
is
KC
7517
final
plant
of
the
Oklahoma
City
Convention
Center,
located
south
of
West
Reno,
Avenue
and
west
of
South,
Santa
Fe
Avenue
item
two
case:
c75
20
final
plat
of
300
Northeast,
70th
Street,
that
is
located
north
of
Northeast,
63rd,
Street
and
East
of
North,
Santa,
Fe,
Avenue
and
finally,
item
three
case:
7515
final
plant
of
redstone
Ranch
phase
9
located
north
of
West,
Britain,
Road
and
West
of
North
Mustang
Road.
Thank.
D
D
No
results
we'll
go
ahead
and
proceed
with
The
Voice
vote.
Commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
Powers
commissioner
privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble.
Yes,
commissioner,
Forge
I
also
vote
I.
That
motion
is
approved
unanimously.
We're
now
in
line
item.
Four
has
been
deferred
to
February
9th
we're
now
in
line
for
item
five.
G
Item
five
is
KC
7476
preliminary
plot
of
Hera
Estates,
located
north
of
the
southeast
119th
Street
and
West
of
South
Harrow
Road.
This
also
includes
a
variance
to
section
5.3.1
point
d.5
of
the
subdivision
regulations.
I
Good
afternoon
David
box
522
Concord
Drive.
This
is
a
site
that
we
actually
just
came
through
the
zoning,
probably
six,
seven
months
ago,
if
you
recall
there
are
a
host
of
RA
uses
in
the
area,
so
we
Zone
this
to
ra.
This
is
simply
the
the
plot
that
comes
after.
So
it's
about
65
acres,
minimum
one
acre
lot
size
in
terms
of
the
Tes.
I
We
agree
with
one
two
three
and
four,
but
we
are
requesting
a
variance
to
5.3.1
point
D
0.5,
as
it
relates
to
interconnection,
the
reason
being
when
you
look
at
the
area
surrounding
it,
everything
is
pretty
well
divided
out
into
lots
that
are
going
to
be
developed
or
already
developed,
and
so
the
only
opportunity
to
really
connect
would
be
to
the
west,
and
that
has
been
carved
out
specifically
for
a
home
site.
So
there's
no.
There
is
no
possibility
to
interconnect
anywhere
within
this
plot.
I
understand
that
you
know
the
policy
with
interconnection.
I
This
is
just
not
that
situation.
Situation.
I
think
this.
This
lot
line
layout
shows
you
that
that's
the
case,
any
connection
we
would
make
would
be
connecting
to
an
individual's
home
site.
So
there's
no
opportunity
to
connect
neighborhood
to
neighborhood.
So
with
that,
we
agree
with
one
two
three
and
four
and
ask
for
a
variance
on
te
number.
Five.
D
Staff
thoughts
on
T
on
granting
the
variance.
I
I
Here
so
that
doesn't
appear,
there's
any
right
away
that
actually
touches
us.
Our
our
single
point
of
access
is
right.
Here
we
don't
need
the
variance
as
it
relates
to
number
of
lots
or
access
or
anything
like
that.
It's
just
the
interconnection.
When
you
look
at
the
way
that
this
thing's
been
divided
out,
there's
really
no
opportunity
for
interconnection.
B
D
D
N
All
right
move
to
approve
variance
to
section
5.3.1,
Point,
D,
0.5.
D
D
That's
passed,
but
no
no
results
are
appearing.
Do
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
Voice
vote?
Commissioner
Claire
yeah
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
yay,
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble.
A
D
Commissioner,
laforge
all
right,
I
also
vote
aye.
The
motion
to
approve
the
variance
has
been
granted.
We
are
now
in
line
for
a
motion
on
the
item.
A
D
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Privet
moves
to
approve
C
7476,
including
technical
evaluations,
one
through
four,
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
Powers,
commissioner
Claire.
How
do
you
vote
yay,
commissioner?.
A
D
Thank
you
item.
Five
is
approved
we're
now
in
line
for
item
six
item.
I
D
I
D
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Privet.
N
D
A
A
N
A
N
Right
cool,
oh
I've,
got
anybody
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
I.
Don't
know
why
we
would
is.
N
We're
ready,
okay,
I'll
move
to
approve
C
7480,
subject
to
technical
technical
evaluations,
one
two
four
and
five
striking
number
three.
D
And
we
will
I
guess
we'll
see
if
it's
working,
nope,
nope,
okay.
Well,
then
we're
gonna
Voice
vote.
Commissioner
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
laforge
all
right,
I
also
vote
I
the
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
In
line
for
item
seven.
P
Good
afternoon,
Mark
zitza
with
Johnson
Associates
addresses
one
e
Sheridan
Avenue.
This
is
one
of
the
final
pieces
of
the
Grove
master
planned
development
in
Northwest,
Oklahoma
City.
This
is
the
commercial
portion
of
the
project.
It
conforms
with
all
the
aspects
of
the
Pud.
There
are
a
few
Tes,
but
I
would
like
to
discuss
te3.
We
agree
with
te1
and
2.
te3
seeks
to
place
limits
of
no
access
along
the
section
line
roads.
The
Pud
specifically
calls
out
the
drive
locations
that
are
permitted
and
we
would
like
that
to
be
per
the
Pud.
P
D
Okay,
this
is
in
Ward
8.
Commissioner
Noble,
would
you
like
to
begin
our
discussions.
D
B
So
normally
we
would,
if
there's
a
lots
that
are
being
served
by
a
local,
Street
or
collector
Street.
Then
we
would
have
limits
of
no
access
off
of
the
main
road.
If
there
are
Provisions
in
the
Pod
that
allow
for
some
access,
then
then,
in
those
areas,
I
don't
see
why
there'd
be
an
issue
there.
We
would
want
to
make
sure
that
that
spacing
is
maintained
between
the
newly
created
Street
and
the
access
drives,
but
when
they
go
for
a
building
permit
they
would
they
would
be
reviewing
that
against
the
Pud.
P
P
Sure
that's
a
great
question.
So
if
we
were
to
label
them
on
the
plant
today
without
knowing
where
the
final
users
are
going
to
place
their
drives,
then
we
would
have
to
go
through
a
plaid
vacation
process
to
change
that.
So,
as
Jared
mentioned
at
every
building
permit,
when
some
of
these
out
Parcels
develop.
If
the
if
a
driveway
could
be
permitted,
let's
say:
there's
you
know
400
feet:
we've
got
to
be
200
foot
of
Separation.
We
have
wiggle
room
as
to
where
that
can
go.
L
Q
D
D
The
motion
has
passed,
we're
told,
but
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
have
the
votes
on
the
record.
Commissioner
Claire
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
yay,
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble
gay
Commission
of
the
forge
all.
A
L
P
Good
afternoon
Marx,
it's
Alex
Johnson
Associates
20,
Sheridan
Avenue.
This
is
phase
two
of
the
Magnolia
Harbor
development.
This
te
was
the
same
te
that
we
had
on
phase
one
we're
not
seeking
the
variants,
we'll
agree
to
provide
the
emergency
access
either
connecting
to
phase
one
or
back
out
to
Morgan
Road.
So
either
way
access
will
be,
will
be
there.
So
we'd
ask
that
you
agree
to
te3
but
remove
the
need
for
the
variants.
P
D
E
Pretty
straightforward
I,
don't
have
anything,
have
any
questions.
So
if
there's
anyone
here
to
speak
or
if
other
Commissioners
have
comments,
I'd
be
open
to
hear
that.
D
E
D
The
motion
before
the
body
is
to
move
approval
of
c7519
amending
te3
to
remove
basically
the
last
two
sentences,
and
is
there
a
second
second,
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
powers.
Please
capture
those
unavailable
and
I'm
sure
we
will
be
having
a
Voice
vote
thereafter.
D
Okay,
all
right
the
Motions
pass,
but
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
the
votes
on
the
record.
Commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
okay,
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
laforge
hi
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
We're
now.
In
line
for
item
nine,
this.
R
Good
afternoon
Jason
Spencer
300
Point
Parkway
Boulevard
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
So
before
you
just
found
plot
of
Whispering
Creek
phase
three,
it's
9.8
Acres,
it's
at
59th
and
County
Line,
Road
25
duplex
slots.
This
final
plaque
conforms
to
the
Pud
and
Zoning,
as
well
as
the
subdivision
regs
and
the
improved
preliminary
plat.
The
preliminary
flat
did
expire
at
the
last
month
at
the
end
of
last
year,
and
so
because
of
that
we're
asking
for
a
variance
which
is
part
of
te
number
two
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Q
I
think
there
was
a
question
on
the
sidewalks
yes
possibility.
R
S
Good
afternoon
Barry
Lodge
City
of
Oklahoma
City
Public
Works.
The
applicant
has
submitted
a
letter
requesting
a
feeling
with
sidewalks
for
the
section
line
Frontage
on
this,
in
discussions
with
City
Engineers
office
kind
of
come
to
light
that
the
there's
a
bond
project,
that's
going
along
59th
and
would
turn
the
corner
onto
onto
County
Line
Road.
However,
as
part
of
that
Bond
proposition
for
that
project,
the
sidewalks
along
the
section
Line
Road
were
not
included
to
be
constructed
as
part
of
that
project.
S
We've
had
that
come
up
here
in
recent
past,
as
that
being
part,
a
te
for
part
of
the
request,
and
so
just
want
to
get
that
onto
the
record,
that
that
has
been
requested
and
will
be
going
out
formally
as
a
denial
of
that
we
also
have
had
the
discussion-
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
continuation
of
a
development
that
is
the
same
developer
of
phase
one
phase
two
and
we
haven't
found
any
record
of
a
an
application
for
a
feeling
of
sidewalk
for
phase
two
and
we're
backing
up
a
little
bit,
but
the
phase
two.
S
We
did
not
find
a
a
record
of
the
request
or
whether
that
was
approved,
approved
for
them
not
to
build
That
Sidewalk
along
phase
two.
So
what
we
would
like
to
do,
and
it's
it's
a
little
bit
backing
up
and
maybe
a
little
unusual,
but
would
be
to
have
that
sidewalk
connecting
this
phase
three
with
the
current
phase,
one
sidewalk
that
and
I
forget
as
Whispering
Creek
Boulevard,
that's
to
the
north.
That
was
constructed
as
part
of
phase
one
of
that
development.
S
Think
that
the
I
think
the
te
would
I'd
recommend
would
be
to
that.
Sidewalk
would
be
extended
from
the
current
project
phase
three
up
to
the
existing
sidewalk
that
was
constructed
as
part
of
phase
one
and
we're
talking
along
County,
Line,
Road
correct
yes,
sir
cologne,
County
Line
Road,
and
then
we
and
and
then
it's
just
as
part
of
the
normal
development
process.
We
would
have
to
have
it
along
59th
Street.
S
Also
there
there
would
be
the
provision
that,
because
I
know
you're
going
to
get
into
the
the
big
drainage
structure
that
goes
under
59th
Street
and
as
it
currently
exists,
there's
not
any
way
you
could
get
across
that.
So
we
we
would
make
provision
for
that
portion
of
it
to
be
done
at
a
later
time,
because
I'm,
assuming
that
your
development
is
going
to
be
in
ahead
of
the
bond
construction,
probably-
and
so
there's
physically,
is
not
a
way
to
get
a
sidewalk
across
that
that
Culvert.
At
this
point,
okay.
R
We're
willing
to
agree
with
that
as
long
as
there's
the
the
stipulation
about
the
Culvert
Crossing
on
59th.
D
Be
able
to
confirm
that
yeah
make
sure
we've
got
it
got
that
language
down
any
any
other
questions.
D
Is
there
anyone
here
wishing
to
be
heard
on
item
nine
I
do
have
one
person
signed
up
to
speak,
I
believe
Carl,
Baker
Carla,
maybe
did
I
get
it
right,
Carol,
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
I'm!
So
sorry,
I
misread
it.
T
We
live
on
Southwest,
59th
and
County
Line,
the
property
that's
in
described
they're
talking
about
now.
Our
property
goes
to
full
length
across
the
street.
We're
on
six
acres
us
a
little
bit
more,
but
it
goes
along.
So
we
we
are
directly
infected
by
what
goes
on
across
the
street.
Yes,.
D
T
Just,
for
instance,
the
sidewalk
you
were
just
talking
about,
we
are
wanting
a
sidewalk
to
be
put
on
that
side
of
the
road,
especially
since
we
just
had
the
City
come
out.
They
came
out
and
said
that
they're
going
to
take
an
additional
30
feet
off
of
the
side
of
our
property.
So
that's
going
to
be
60
feet,
including,
what's
already
considered
that's
going
to
bring
it
up
real
close
to
our
garages.
T
T
I
have
tried
to
achieve
the
finding
out
everything
needed
to
be
done
about
this
situation,
so
I
was
sure
I've
not
been
able
to
find
Rocky
or
anything
to
lead
me
to
be
able
to
ask
enough
questions
about
this
property
of
putting
25
establishments
or
duplexes
to
house
50.
T
residences.
That
seems
like
an
awful,
slow
or
or
a
complicated
thing
to
put
into
such
a
small
area
where
we're
talking
about
parking
at
the.
What
we
received
does
not
show,
but
one
Road
in
and
out.
It's
It
also
says
that
the
at
items
that
were
submitted
to
be
considered
can
be
changed
at
any
time.
But
if
you
vote
for
it
in
some
way,
it
would
be
really
nice
to
have
it
nailed
so
that
they
can't
go
back
in
there
and
just
do
it
the
way
they
want
to.
T
T
We
have
a
school
project
right
there
that
has
to
have
additional
Road
and
they
are
going
to
come
in
and
put
in
a
four-lane
area
right
there,
which
is
going
to
take
a
big
chunk
of
our
property,
but
it
also
affects
Rockies.
On
the
other
side,
so
he's
going
to
have
to
have
his
that
in
consideration
as
to
whether
he's
thought
about
that
or
not.
T
We
were
just
become
privity
of
it
just
two
weeks
ago
and
they
came
out
yesterday
and
were
measuring
off
on
our
property,
where
we're
going
to
lose
what
we
already
have.
That
brings
up
another
thing.
We
are
on
an
acreage
in
city
limits
when
you're
on
acreage
and
City
Limits.
You
have
to
have
at
least
five
acres
plus
in
order
to
begin
be
considered
an
acreage.
T
So
if
they
come
in
and
take
an
acre,
Plus
off
of
our
property,
how
are
we
going
to
be
assured
that
we
will
still
have
these
same
rights
as
people
have
acres
do,
which
is
very
different
than
just
City
Lots
in
town?
But
this
is
in
town
on
a
we
have
a
6.7
I
agree
to
where
we
are.
They
said
it
would
take
off
at
least
probably
an
acre,
maybe
more
by
the
time
they
take
out
what
they
want
to
for
a
new
bridge
and
everything.
So
we're
we're
teetering
on
that
for
zoning.
T
J
T
Know,
but
it's
it's
very
confusing,
it's
very
upsetting
because
it
it's
all
moving
in.
On
top
of
us,
we
have
very
nice
homes
in
that
area.
I
don't
want
something
to
go
in,
that
may
consider
it
being
a
disc
disadvantage
for
property
selling
and
so
forth
that
our
depreciation
would
happen
to
our
property
because
of
something
that
went
in
too
quickly
and
was
not
thoroughly
examined
and
and
considering
all
the
ramifications
for
happening
around
it.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miss
booth
and
I'll
just
say:
Miss
Baker,
I,
Apologize,
I
I,
do
want
to
say
just
a
few
things
about
that
number
one
we
this
is
what
we're
voting
on
today
is
about
is
about
a
final
plot.
It
is
not
in
regard
to
the
city's
effort
to
redo
the
the
street
redo
59th
Street,
which,
as
I
believe
what
you're
you're
talking
about.
D
D
T
D
It
looks
like
they
have
access
on
Southwest
57th
Terrace,
but
but
thank
you,
Miss
Baker,
for
coming
to
share
your
concerns.
I
I,
you
might
I,
would
encourage
you
to
with
any
other
questions
you
may
have
about
how
the
how
the
development
is
going
to
occur,
that
you
might
visit
with
the
developer
as
well
and
share
some
of
those
concerns.
We
only
this
commission
only
has
the
authority
to
take
action
on
this
final
plot.
This
is
actually
years
in
the
making
for
us
to
be.
D
At
this
point,
I
think
the
original
plot
was
proposed
and
I
I,
don't
have
it
off
hand.
2017
wasn't
17,
and
this
is
the
second
time
we've
even
looked
at
just
this.
Just
this
area
being
replanted,
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
visit
with
with
the
developer
as
well.
T
D
This
plat,
if
we
were
to
vote
today,
we
would
approve
of
their
ability
to
build
on
these
homes
as
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report,
there's
some
other
permitting
that
they
will
need
before
they
could
move
forward.
That
would
be
a
great
question
for
staff
to
answer
and
I'm
looking
at
Barry
behind
us
or
anybody
else,
Sarah.
Whoever
might
be
able
to
to
be
in
a
better
position.
D
D
D
U
U
This
just
goes
along
with
a
final
resolution
regarding
the
permit
of
this
gentleman
I
believe
in
his
agency
to
begin
building
on
this
particular
land
area.
U
Why?
Because
you're
a
government
agency,
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
everything
else
is
laid
out
in
that
regard
for
those
folks
and
I
will
again
be
get
involved
in
that
area.
So
with
that
I'll
let
that
go,
however
I
will
be
having
a
close
perspective
of
what's
going
on.
Thank
you
opportunity,
so
I
won't
need
five
minutes.
Thank
you.
E
For
a
motion,
I
do
want
to
ask
Barry
to
help
me,
make
sure
I
have
this
language
right
regarding
County
Line,
Road
developer,
to
construct
public
sidewalk
along
the
County
Line
Road
for
the
extensive
phase,
three
two
existing
phase
one
and
then
regarding
59th
Street,
along
59th
Street
through
the
course
of
normal
development,
but
we're
excluding
the
area
of
the
Culvert.
Are
we
doing
fee
and
Lou
for
the
area
of
culvert.
E
Okay,
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
variance
to
section
3.6.2
point:
B
0.5
of
the
subdivision
regulations
regarding
the
five-year
effective
period
of
the
preliminary
plot.
D
D
L
D
All
right
well,
we're
we're
gonna
have
to
have
a
Voice
vote
again.
The
motion
is
to
approve
of
the
the
variance
first,
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
laforge,
commissioner
Claire
commissioner
powers.
Commissioner
privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
Forge
aye
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
for
our
vote
on
the
item.
Move.
D
The
motion
is
to
approve
c7522,
eliminating
te2
and
adding
te4
as
read
into
the
record.
That
is
there
a
second
it's
been
segmented
by
commissioner
Powers,
we're
going
to
cast
our
votes
via
voice
vote.
Commissioner
Claire,
how
do
you
vote
yay,
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
yay,
commissioner
Hinkle,
commissioner
govine.
D
P
Good
afternoon,
Mark
zitza
with
Johnson
and
Associates
addresses
one
e
Sheridan
Avenue
before
using
Spud.
That
is
very
similar
to
the
Spud
that
we
had
approved
immediately
south
of
this
and
beyond.
That
was
an
Integris
medical
office
location,
and
so
this
Corridor
has
continued
to
grow
with
commercial
and
light
office,
and
so
the
Spud
before
you,
we
have
five
Tes.
We
agree
with
all
the
Tes
and
we
would
ask
for
your
approval
but
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
Ward
3
also.
Is
there?
Are
there
any
questions
from
Commissioners
about
this
item?.
P
P
Sure
so
currently
it's
owned
agricultural
I
think
there's,
maybe
maybe
some
confusion
in
a
in
a
pre-development
meeting
that
this
was
imminent.
It
appears
that
that
subdivision
is
on
the
other
side
of
Mustang
Creek,
that's
happening
so
in
either
case.
If
the
residential
develops-
and
this
is
commercial-
we're
going
to
have
a
five
foot
landscape
buffer
and
we're
going
to
have
the
site
proof.
Screening.
D
D
D
P
Good
afternoon
Marcus,
it's
one
East
Sheridan
Avenue.
This
is
the
final
plan
to
allow
for
the
land
to
be
subdivided.
We
knew
that
there
were
going
to
be
more
than
three
tracks,
which
is
what
made
this
not
eligible
for
administrative
lot
split,
and
so
it
meets
all
the
subdivision
regulations.
There
are
two
Tes
that
we
agree
with,
so
we
would
ask
for
your
approval.
Thank.
D
D
Motion
is
to
approve
c7521
subject
to
the
technical
evaluations.
It's
been
segmented
by
commissioner
Powers,
commissioner
Claire.
How
do
you
vote
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
yeah,
commissioner
Hinkle,
commissioner
govine,
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
Forge
I
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
for
item
12..
Thank
you.
This.
I
Good
afternoon,
David
box
522
call
Court
Drive
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
application
is
for
an
R2.
This
is
an
area
that,
over
the
last
several
years,
has
kind
of
seen
an
interesting
turn
you're
starting
to
see
more
and
more
residential.
If
you
saw
an
updated
aerial
to
the
east
of
this
site
or
two
brand
new,
very
large
homes
that
have
that
have
been
constructed.
There's
another
item
on
the
docket:
later:
that's
for
a
multi-family
south
of
66.,
so
you're
starting
to
see
an
influx
of
residential
in
this
area.
I
D
This
is
in
thank
you.
This
is
in
Ward.
This
is
in
ward
2..
Commissioner
Powers,
would
you
like
to
lead
our
discussion.
C
Listen
this
this
area
is
so
puzzling.
You
know
quite
a
long
time
ago
it
seemed
perfectly
clear
that
it
was.
It
was
transitioning
away
from
any
kind
of
residential
development
into
one
hoped
office
and
office
warehouse,
but
the
reality
was
more
like
Industrial,
and
you
know
the
area
maybe
is
calling
out
for
some
kind
of
a
line,
and
perhaps
chartel
is
going
to
be
that
line.
I
mean
am
I
going
to
turn
down.
C
You
know
going
from
Office
development
to
residential
development,
no
I'm,
not
and-
and
these
people
clearly
know
what
they're
getting
into
I'm
puzzled
by
it
I
confess,
but
I
don't
hate
it.
So
I'm
gonna,
you
know,
is
there
somebody
here
who
wants
to
be
heard
on
it.
D
C
Ever
actually
High-Speed
Rail,
this
area
may
become.
You
know
a
very
desirable
area
in
which
to
live,
I
mean
there's,
there's
clearly
a
reason
for
the
semi-industrial
and
and
those
kind
of
uses
that
are
right
there
on
the.
D
Any
other
questions,
if
there's
no
nothing
else
from
Commissioners.
The
motion
before
the
body
is
to
recommend
approval
of
PUD
16
53
piece.
Oh
excuse
me
PC
108.60
I'm.
Looking
at
the
wrong
thing,
it's
been
segmented
by
commissioner
Hinkle.
We
will
avoid
those
vote
by
Voice
vote.
Commissioner
Claire,
commissioner
Powers
yay,
commissioner
private
all
right.
Commissioner
Hinkle
aye,
commissioner
govane,
commissioner
Noble,
okay
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
We
are
now
in
line
for
item
13.
G
W
Brent
Hill,
sorry
about
that,
and
so
yes,
this
is
to
get
the
zoning
to
change
in
this
area.
I
was
able
to
buy
all
of
the
property
on
Southeast
21st,
just
west
of
that
outline
right
there.
It's
already
industrial
they're,
all
lots
that
have
been
cleared
off,
I
own
the
cabinet
shop,
just
south
of
that
the
metal
buildings
that
you
see
there
and
so
I
initially
just
bought
it
because
it's
nice
to
secure
the
land
around
the
shop.
W
It's
kind
of
it's
a
dead
end,
Street,
there's
not
a
lot
going
on
and
the
reason
that
I'd
like
to
get
it
to
Industrial
is
I.
Don't
have
an
exact
plan
now
for
a
building,
but
if
I
could
get
it
to
Industrial,
then
as
I
come
up
with
something
I
would
be
able
to
actually
Implement
that
a
little
quicker,
rather
than
doing
it
backwards.
So
that
was
really
the
reasoning
for
that.
D
W
Back,
oh
yeah,
that's
kind
of
an
odd
deal.
If
you
look
at
the,
if
I
can't,
remember,
I
think
I
supplied
it,
but
if
not
I
have
some
copies
here.
The
lots
are
shaped,
really
weird
right
there
and
and
everything
that's
you
know
around.
That
is
actually
already
zoned
industrial
as
random,
as
that
is
all
of
those
residential
lots.
They're
real
skinny
they're,
like
35
40
foot
width
Lots,
but
that
one
is
shaped
really
awkward.
W
Yeah
so
where
the
black
line
is
on
the
it'd
be
on
the
east
side,
so
I
own,
all
the
way
down
to
that
last
house,
you
see
an
image
of
the
house
at
the
very
end
of
Southeast
21st,
so
I
was
able
to
buy
all
of
those
lots
and
yeah
that
house
there.
That's
the
only
lot
that
I
don't
own
in
the
house.
That's
to
the
right
of
that
or
to
the
east
is
demoed,
that's
gone
now,
but
but
basically
my
thought
was
to
just
get
all
of
that
zone
the
same.
W
So
then,
if
there
was
ever
a
big
picture
item,
you
know
we're
very
blessed.
We
have
a
business,
that's
thriving
and
has
been
there.
Well,
it's
been
around
since
1959.
that
particular
place.
We've
been
there
since
03.
W
C
I
too
and
manufactured
home,
it
seems
so
at
at
odds
with
each
other.
Are
you
thinking
of
the
manufactured
housing
as
a
as
a
kind
of
place.
W
So
I
don't
know
if
that
got
in
there
by
accident.
I
read
that
on
the
agenda
as
well
and
I
was
a
bit
confused
I'm
only
trying
to
get
these
to
I2.
That's
it
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
man
I
I
saw
that
and
I
didn't
know
what
that
meant
as
well.
I
gave
everything
to
the
right
Department
that
I
thought
I
was
to
give
it
to
and
and
only
mentioned,
industrial
I.
Don't
want
anything
I.
G
O
Exactly
but
Sarah
Welch
planning
department,
there
is
a
manufactured
home
overlay
over
a
lot
of
this
area.
We
are
honestly
not
that
familiar
with
the
overlay
either,
but
this
reasoning
would
not
affect
that.
It
would
not
Zone
you
in
or
out
of
that
overlay.
W
Yeah
I
was
confused
as
well
to
be
honest
with
you,
when
I
saw
that
I
was
just
kind
of
laser
focused
on
the
industrial
only
so
if
I
wanted
to
get
a
metal
building
or
add
on
to
our
shop,
we
just
can't
really
add
on
to
where
we're
at
very
easily.
So
it's
makes
more
sense
for
me
to
add
buildings
around
me.
W
D
D
It
the
motion
the
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
PC
10861
to
city
council.
It's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
Hinkle
we're
going
to
Voice
vote.
Commissioner
Claire
yay,
commissioner
Powers
Yeah.
D
X
2004
North
Martin
Luther,
King,
JT,
Realty
Inc,
we're
here
to
rezone
our
residents
from
R1
to
o1.
We
would
love
to
bring
a
family
medical
clinic
to
an
underserved
area.
Our
goal
is
to
increase
Healthcare
access
to
the
area,
and
so
that's
who
our
plans
are.
D
X
Going
to
add
to
the
back
of
it
another
clinic
room
where
it
submits
the
plans,
Clinic
room
as
well
as
staff
and
bathroom
parking
will
be
in
the
back
and
in
the
future.
We
would
love
to
add.
So
it's
just
not
myself.
So
right
now
we'll
be
able
to
see
a
cleanup
room
with
three
or
four
within
the
residence.
But
the
goal
at
some
point
will
be
to
partner
with
the
city
which,
when
we're
talking
to
the
urban
renewal
league
right
now,
the
officers
about.
D
Getting
more
property
that'd
be
great
too
yes,
I
I
am
in
support
of
this
project
and
obviously
the
healthcare
needs
of
our
community
in
Northeast.
Oklahoma
City
are
critical.
So
thank
you
for
being
willing
to
step
into
that
Gap.
The
biggest
concern
I
had
was:
how
would
this
negatively
affect
the
neighbors
I
had
some
discussions
with
staff
about
that.
They
assured
me
that
with
the
standards
in
o1
zoning
that
that
would
be
sufficient
to
protect
the
neighbors
with
sufficient
screening
and
so
I'm
also
not
concerned,
if
the.
D
If,
for
whatever
reason,
maybe
it's
expansion,
you
decide
to
get
rid
of
the
that
building.
We
were
assured
that
the
standards
would
be
appropriate.
It
would
be
an
appropriate
height,
the
limitation,
Etc
and
I'll.
Let
Sarah
come
in
if
she
has
any
on
that
on
01,
but
it
seems
a
appropriate
to
me
and
obviously
I
think
Martin
Luther
King's
King
is
going
to
continue
to
move
in
a
direction
of
commercial
office
and
that
sort
of
thing
rather
than
having
residences
in
the
first
place
so
again,
I'm
in
support.
D
U
U
U
So
what's
the
purpose
of
we
buying
houses,
so
we
can
do
things
like
not
necessarily
what
he's
doing,
but
we
can
do
other
things
regarding,
like
that.
You
just
staying
on
your
own
mouth,
sir.
It's
becoming
a
business
type
of
surrounding
anyway
we're
moving
toward
that
progress
and
I
agree
with
you.
So
again
my
concern
is:
where
are
you
going
to
move
the
residents
there?
Is
there
going
to
be
eventual?
U
Y'all
got
to
go
because
it's
imminent
domain
now
see
how
those
things
could
blindly
and
without
us
having
an
actual
foresight
about
what's
really
going
on
with
the
hidden
Sinister
attachment
again,
not
him,
but
I'm
saying
what
this
is
doing
is
opening
the
door
for
a
larger
array
of
things
being
done.
What
people
already
are
homeless
going
to
be
more
so
now
homeless,
people
than
ever
before
once
again,
I
have
no
problem
with
what
he's
doing,
but
have
we
taken
a
close
introspection
of
what
this
thing
might
do?
U
U
This
is
what
my
concern
is
and
I
will
tell
you
did
I
speak
for
all
local
homes.
I
have
nothing
against.
This
gentleman
seems
like
a
great
man
to
me,
but
we
must
look
at
the
whole
possibility
of
how
everyone's
going
to
be
effective.
If
this
thing
is
allowed
to
go
on
he's,
just
one
of
minutes
is
already
done.
U
U
D
U
U
U
D
U
D
D
D
P
P
Our
client
has
acquired
the
property
and
plans
to
build
a
new
multi-family
residential
building
on
the
entirety
of
the
site,
which
includes
the
kind
of
black
roof
building
to
the
South
and
then,
where
there's
existing
staging
happening
for
the
apartments
across
the
street,
and
so
we've
been
to
downtown
design,
Review
Committee
they've
recommended
approval.
I
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
Alleyways
and
street
closures.
We
think
about
Alleyways
in
the
urban
core.
Their
purpose
is
really
to
serve
back
of
house
operations.
P
Our
project
was
very
intentional
about
how
those
would
be
serviced,
Francis
south
of
the
alley,
as
it
was
actually
closed
and
vacated
so
we'll
be
accessing
our
trash
and
back
of
house
off
of
the
vacated
Francis
with
a
garage
door
where
they
can
access
the
dumpsters
there.
So
there
won't
be
any
dumpsters
out
in
the
street
or
in
the
public
right-of-way.
Like
we've.
Seen
in
other
cases,
so
this
is
a
picture
of
the
of
the
project
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Y
Which
I
think
is
a
good
addition
to
the
neighborhood
we're
just
to
north
of
the
county
jail.
Are
there
any
questions
or
concerns
of
any
other
commissioners.
Y
D
Commissioner,
govine
moves
recommend
approval
of
ce1075
to
city
council.
Is
there
a
second
second
second
by
commissioner
Powers,
we're
going
to
vote
vote
by
Voice
vote.
Commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
powers.
C
D
F
Good
afternoon
Steve
Rollins
Arc
engineering,
Consultants,
135,
Deer,
Creek,
Road
and
Edmond
representing
the
applicant.
This
is
an
application
to
close
several
pieces
of
right-of-way
Alleyway
easements,
just
to
make
a
more
contiguous
piece
of
property:
the
property
Zone
I2
the
developer
plans
to
do
some
sort
of
Warehouse
office
or
storage.
Something
like
that.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
flood
zone
as
you
can
see
the
Shaded
area
on
the
map,
which
we
do
plan
to
try
to
narrow
that
down
some,
but
just
to
make
a
more
contiguous
piece
of
property.
D
Work
and
then
coming
over
here
so
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I
am
in
support
of
the
project,
especially
all
you
really
need
to
do
is
look
at
the
map
and
see
how
this
property
is
currently
being
used.
I
think
the
the
example
in
color
does
it
justice
of
of
the
overview
of
how
that
land
is
currently
being
used.
So,
given
that
I'm
I'm
fully
in
in
support
of
this
project,
any
questions
from
commissioners
is
there?
D
D
Claire
moves
to
recommend
approval
of
ce1090
to
city
council
as
they're
saying
Bishop
power
seconds
it
we're
now
in
line
four
vote.
Commissioner
Claire
yay,
commissioner
Powers.
Yes,
commissioner,
privet
aye,
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
aye,
commissioner
Noble
aye
Commission
of
the
forge
I
I,
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
good
luck
with
your
project.
D
G
I
Good
afternoon,
David
box
522
call
Court
Drive
on
behalf
of
the
applicant
this.
This
is
actually
a
companion
item
to
item
28..
I,
don't
know
if
the
chair
wants
to
do
anything
about
that.
But
this
is
a
closing
application
item.
28
is
actually
the
rezoning
component
and
they
they
go
together.
I
I
So
what's
interesting,
let's
go
back
one
more
when
you
see
on
the
exhibit
the
Pud
1653
immediately
to
the
west
of
that
is
an
R1
tract.
The
R1
tract
is
approximately
6
000
square
feet.
It
has
absolutely
no
independent
utility
and
in
fact
Northwest
65th
has
been
closed
and
I
believe
vacated
immediately
south
of
it
I
believe
you're
going
to
hear
from
someone
today,
that's
going
to
say
that
by
closing
the
balance
of
what
we
seek
to
close
here
today,
we're
going
to
cut
off
Public,
Access
I.
I
I
We
have
no
idea
why
the
individual
bot
that
R1
piece
that
little
R1
piece
for
whatever
reason
100
years
ago
was
plotted
as
a
public
park.
My
client
sought
to
buy
it,
given
that
he
owns
almost
everything
else
in
the
area
and
was
outbid
to
a
public
sealed
bid
process
at
the
city
council
and
this
unknown
individual
who
will
not
reveal
themselves
acquired
that
it
doesn't
appear
they
own
anything
else
in
the
area
it
appears.
Their
only
purpose
is
to
stall
Indian
all
development
of
my
clients
property.
I
So
as
it
relates
to
the
closing
the
argument,
You're
Going
to
Hear
I
think
are
absolutely
incorrect.
I
think
these
folks
bought
a
piece
of
property,
perhaps
unknowing,
that
the
north
half
of
Northwest
65th
Street,
has
already
been
vacated
and
closed
by
some
previous
action.
But
what
we
can
offer
is
at
some
point
between
now
and
District
Court
we
will
find
alternative
access.
My
client
has
been
actively
visiting
with
all
the
other
property
owners
in
the
area.
I
We
are
firmly
of
the
belief
that
we
will
be
able
to
provide
some
form
of
permanent
easement
through
an
instrument
recorded
that
will
give
that
R1
tract
access
to
a
public
right-of-way.
Now
it's
worth
noting
that
piece,
that's
R1,
if
you
think
about
what
could
be
developed
there
and
you
think
about
what
setbacks
are
required.
I,
don't
believe
that
a
structure
could
actually
be
built
there.
I
It
is
a
piece
of
property
that
is
unable
to
be
developed,
but
for
my
client
and
I
think
the
purpose
is
nothing
more
than
to
frustrate
the
ability
of
my
client
to
develop
what
I
think
will
be
a
wonderful
development
in
an
area
that
we
we
talked
about
just
a
little
bit
ago,
that
is
turning
into
a
residential
area.
So
there
is
one
te
staff
recommends
approval.
We
agree
to
the
te
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
I'd
like
to
reserve
the
right
to
respond.
I
I
I
So
with
that
we're
happy
to
provide
some
form
of
of
easement,
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
knew
who
this
individual
was
so
that
we
could
understand
what
it
is
they're
concerned
with.
What
we
could
perhaps
do
to
allow
them
to
I
guess,
continue
to
own
that
and
have
some
sort
of
path
to
enjoy
their
six
thousand
square
feet,
but
without
knowing
who
it
is
it's
kind
of
hard
for
my
client
to
do
much
so
again,
we'd
ask
for
your
approve,
we'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
And-
and
this
is
in
ward,
two
and
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
commissioner
Powers,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
I've
asked
Council
to
share
with
us
any
I
know
she's
just
confirming
some
some
of
the
statutes,
but
what
obligations?
If
any,
we
have
to
help
ensure
that
the
owner
of
that
that
little
piece
of
property
has
access
to
the
road
I
didn't
know.
If
we
had
any
responsibility
for
that
or
or
the
granting
of
this
private
easement.
Z
Closing
it's
just
whatever
the
the
council
needs
is
necessary
or
expedient.
Now,
when
you
get
over
to
the
plant
Vacation
part
of
it,
then
you
know
you
can't
injure
other
owners
of
the
plaid
or
something
like
that.
So
they
could
be
I
mean
they
could
file
some
type
of
objection
over
there
to
say
that
you
know
they're
being
cut
off
access
or
it's
injuring
other
people
at
the
plat,
I
guess
and
but.
I
Yeah
and
frankly,
we
welcome
an
objection
to
the
vacation
action,
because
that
will
allow
us
the
ability
to
understand
what
is
really
at
play
here
with
their
concerns.
So
obviously,
once
they
were
to
intervene
into
a
lawsuit,
we'd
have
subpoena
power
and
all
the
things
that
flow
from
that.
So
we
certainly
welcome
that
as.
C
C
Park,
I,
don't
I,
don't
quite
understand,
I,
don't
quite
remember
what
all
that,
how
all
that
hashed
out
and
but
at
the
moment
they
don't
have
any
access
to
a
public
street,
because
the
street
has
been
closed
across
the
front
of
their
property,
the
back
of
their
property
or
the
side
of
their
property
or
whatever
it
is.
This
is
a
strange
strange
thing,
this
little
triangle
that
was
you
know
dedicated
as
a
public
park
and.
C
65Th
Street
is,
is
a
street
in
name
only
there's
an
apron
there
around
the
corners
off
of
chartel.
That's
about
three
feet
deep
at
most,
the
rest
of
it
is
just
a
big,
gravel
driveway,
and
it
only
goes
as
far
as
the
house
is
there
on
the
east
side
off
of
off
of
Shartel.
The
rest
of
it
is
is
so
heavily
tree.
There's
not
even
gravel
I
mean
it's
just
kind
of
a
big
mess.
C
D
Well,
we
can
do
that.
We
is
lanita
Hendrickson
here.
D
AB
My
name
is
lanita
henrikson
from
Henderson
henrikson
lawyers
Inc
in
Oklahoma
City,
representing
Guilford
Capital
LLC,
which
objects
to
the
vacate
vacation
of
the
right-of-way.
AB
This
triangular
piece
of
property
I
think
can
be
seen
better
in
this
map
where
it
shows
in
green.
It's
right
here.
This
is
the
property
that
my
client
owns
and
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
that
we
would
be
more
than
happy
to
meet
with
Mr
Box
Mark
Henrickson,
and
we
have
a
property
manager
and
my
client's
property
that
would
meet
with
you.
AB
It's
not
a
problem
at
all
to
see
if
there
could
be
something
worked
out,
but
anyway,
this
triangular
piece
of
property
was
purchased
by
my
client
from
the
city
of
Oklahoma,
City
in
2018,
I
believe
for
86
600
dollars.
AB
AB
If
the
city
allows
the
request
to
close
right
away,
which
existed
at
the
time
of
the
conveyance
of
this
property,
then
that
property
is
going
to,
it
will
be
landlocked.
There's
no.
In
essence,
the
app
the
applicant
is
asking
the
city
to
landlock.
This
property
there's
no
scenario
in
the
application
that
would
allow
access
to
this
triangular
piece
of
property
that
wrote
off
class
and
was
vacated
I
believe
in
1983..
AB
So
the
only
access
is
this
right-of-way
that
Ng
nhg
seeks
to
vacate.
AB
AB
This
property
would
be
landlocked
if
this
roadway
is
vacated
well,
this
right
away
is
vacated
it
would.
It
would
render
this
piece
of
property
inaccessible.
AB
It
would
totally
diminish
the
value
of
the
land
and
be
rendered
useless
with
the
closure
of
this
right
away.
Now,.
AB
The
parties
might
be
able
to
arrive
at
some
Solution,
that's
agreeable
to
both
parties
and
Market
Mr
henrison
he's
willing
to
enter
into
talks
with
Mr
Box,
like
I,
said,
and
bring
along
this
priority
property
manager.
Who
is
a
retired
engineer
to
discuss
options
that
might
be
available,
which
would
be
agreeable
to
both
parties
and
now,
as
far
as
I
know
as
far
as
I
know,
the
applicant
has
never
reached
out
to
try
to
reach
a
resolution
that
would
be
agreeable
to
both
parties.
AB
So
we
asked
that
the
that
the
application
not
be
night
not
be
granted
today
or
recommended
today.
AB
We're
not
particularly
I
mean
if
Mr
box
is
agreeable
to
speaking
with
Mr
Hendrickson
about
a
possible
solution
and
I'm
not
saying
there
I'm,
not
saying
that
ultimately
would
be
a
solution,
but
it
is
a
possibility
but
I
think
today
the
application
should
not
be
recommended.
D
D
AB
Oh,
your
honor
I
mean
commissioner
I,
don't
particularly
seek
and
continuous,
but
if
it's
agreeable
to
Mr
Box
to
enter
into
some
kind
of
talks
that
I,
that
would
that
would
work.
D
Well,
I
I
think,
based
on
what
I've
heard
so
far
listening
to
our
Council,
it
sounds
like
we
don't
have
any
obligation
to
keep
the
right-of-way
open,
because
your
client
does
not
have
access
from
a
from
a
street.
We
are
under
no
obligation
to
consider
that
as
far
as
I
know,
there's.
D
I
guess
the
the
the
only
remaining
thing-
and
this
would
be
for
the
commission
to
consider
is:
do
we
want
to
to
say
yes,
no
or
have
a
continuance,
I'm
inclined
to
say,
because
I
I,
unless
I
hear
from
our
Council
to
the
contrary,
that
there's
no
consideration
that
we
have
to
give
for
this,
the
property
owner
who
bought
land
that
they
didn't
have
access
to
from
from
any
any
street.
So
are
there?
Are
there
questions
before
I
allow
the
applicants
Council.
H
Thank
you
to
your
point
of
this
has
not
been
a
street
and
your
client,
you
said
just
purchased
it
not
too
long
ago.
I
may
have
missed
you
indicating
any
possible
interest
or
what
their
plans
are
to
develop
this
at
all.
It's
a
tiny
piece
of
property
that
had
no
actual
road
to
it.
I
think
the
setbacks
would
be
extremely
limiting,
so
did
I
miss
it.
What
is
the
potential
plans
for
this
spot
that
might
influence
us
to
not
vacate
this.
AB
Because
I
know
there's
no
particular
several
things
on
table
that
kid
could
that
could
be
developed
in
that
piece
of
property,
but
right
now,
there's
no
particular
idea
that
I
that
I
know
of
so.
H
AB
AB
It's
just
landlocked
and
it's
against
public
policy.
They
have
a
piece
of
landlocked
property.
I
will
say
also
that
I
believe
in
2018
or
thereabouts.
This
same
matter
came
before
this
department
and
I
believe,
as
Mr
Box
had
said
that
there
was
a
access
from
Classen
to
this
triangular
piece
of
property,
but
that
has
that
has
been
vacated
from
from
from
class
and.
C
I
The
this
is
a
survey
by
jna,
and
my
belief
is
that
it
has
been
vacated,
which
is
why
it
shows
up
in
the
manner
that
it
that
it
does
now.
With
that
said,
in
looking
at
this
survey,
there
is
a
platted
alley
on
the
north
side
of
her
client's
property.
So
if
we're
really
talking
about
public
access,
what
the
survey
reflects
is
there
is
still
Public
Access,
regardless
of
what
happens
here
now.
C
Alley,
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds
with
this
thing,
but
you
know
when
we,
when
you
vacate
a
street
and
typically
you're
vacating
the
whole
street,
not
just
half
of
it,
but
that
property
reverts
to
the
ownership
of
those
persons
who
have
bought
it.
C
So
in
this
case,
I
assume
that
when
the
northern
half
was
vacated
along
the
triangle,
the
owner
of
the
triangle
benefited
from
that
in
the
sense
that
they
got
that
half
of
the
street
I
think
it's
odd
for
them
to
be
in
a
position
of
now,
arguing
that
you
know
the
rest
of
it
shouldn't
be
vacated
because
you
know
that's
going
to
somehow
negatively
affect
them.
So
I'm
I'm,
very
it
seems
very
odd,
I'm
guessing
this
is
all
going
to
be
solved
in
District,
Court
I.
D
I
agree,
commissioner
powers,
and
it
sounds
like
just
from
listening
to
our
own
Council,
that
this
is
going
to
be
A
Private
Matter
between
between
the
parties.
So
the
question
for
us
is:
do
we
given
the
criteria
that
is
outlined
in
our
staff
report,
given
our
Our
obligation?
Are
we
in
support
of
closing
this
right-of-way
or
not,
but
as
far
as
as
Miss
as.
D
D
We
before
we
consider
vote
on
the
motion
anything
else,
Mr
box
and
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
one
else
who
wanted
to
be
heard
on
this
item
or
Miss
Henrickson
quickly.
AB
D
We
wouldn't
be
parties
to
that
discussion,
so
anything
else
from
either
one
of
you.
No
sorry
on
this
is
there
anyone
else
wishing
to
be
heard
on
this
item.
Ce1089.
D
If
not,
we're
gonna
hear
commissioner
Powers
motion
to
recommend
approval
of
ce1089
to
city
council.
Is
there
a
second
second
about
commissioner
Claire?
We
will
now
vote
commissioner
Claire
yay,
commissioner
powers.
C
D
Commissioner
privet
yay
Mr
Hinkle,
commissioner
govine
aye,
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
laforte
aye
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes.
We
are
now
in
line
for
item
19.
I
Okay,
David
box,
522
call
Cord
Drive
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
so
my
client
owns
the
property
that
is
to
the
east
of
the
subject,
that
being
the
C3
came
to
my
office.
We
started
talking
through
what
makes
sense
here,
I
think
if
you're
familiar
with
150th
in
May,
a
a
small
squared,
R1
development
doesn't
really
make
sense.
I
You've
got
multi-family
to
the
West
single
family
to
the
north,
we've
taken
care
to
have
what
we
think
to
be
appropriate,
buffering
on
that
North
End,
and
so
what
we
have
is
a
modified
PUD
for
C3
development,
but
not
as
intense
as
obviously
what
exists
to
the
to
the
east
of
us.
So
we
think
we've
limited
the
uses
an
appropriate
manner.
It's
a
PUD
with
no
technical
evaluations
compliant
with
the
comp
plan,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
I
always
have
a
question
about
spectator
sports
and
entertainment
and
I
know.
You've
said
that
you've
agreed
to
I
guess
a
150
foot
buffer,
but
the
spectator
sports
and
entertainment
restricted.
What
kinds
of
outdoor
activities
would
that
allow?
It
doesn't
even
look
like
you're
going.
D
D
Here
to
speak
on
it,
we
do
have
one
person
signed
up
to
speak.
Would
you
like
to
hear
from
them
first?
Yes,
before
we
do
that
any
questions
from
Commissioners
for
the
applicant,
then
we
can
hear
from
J.R
Emrick.
AC
2904
via
Esperanza
I
am
the
I'm
a
resident
of
the
neighborhood
that
borders
this
on
the
North
Esperanza
I'm
also
have
an
office
in
Esperanza,
Office
Park
that
borders.
It
I've
been
the
HOA
president
for
the
neighborhood
and
for
the
office
park
for
14
years,
I
own
the
property
immediately
to
the
West
10
acres
of
vacant.
Land
I
do
have
a
development
with
the
city,
a
development
plan.
That's
been
approved,
PUD
1726,
the.
AC
If
you
look
at
the
conceptual
site
plan
or
or
this
there's
a
street
on
the
west
side,
that's
going
to
be
a
public
Street
via
Bella.
That's
about
300
feet
of
public
Street.
AC
Before
it
comes
to
a
gate,
there
will
be
a
gated
neighborhood,
that's
behind
the
apartment,
so
be
40
single
family
lots
behind
the
in
that
gated
neighborhood
I'm,
not
against
the
rezoning.
My
my
concern
here
today
is
that
in
the
Pud
they
say
there
will
be
a
six
to
eight
foot
wall
around
the
the
their
property.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
and-
and
the
conceptual
site
plan
shows
two
driveways
into
150th.
AC
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
in
that
short
300
foot,
Street
that'll
eventually
be
a
public
Street
to
a
gated
neighborhood
that
there
would
never
be
Ingress
or
egress
to
that
short
private
was
going
to
be
a
public
Street
for
300
feet
until
it
hits
the
back
side
of
the
apartments
and
then
it
becomes
a
gated
community.
AC
D
AC
AC
I
AC
D
AB
D
G
G
I
It's
all
right,
David
box,
522,
call
Cord
drive
23.
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
Also
with
me,
is
the
ownership
group
and
the
development
team.
So
this
is
I
think
a
real,
exciting
product.
Can
you
show
the
aerial
please
exciting,
project
for
a
RV
RV
park,
tiny
home
and
and
tree
house?
I
So
if
you
think
about
where
we
are
at
I-35
and
36
we're
a
mile
from
Remington
Park
we're
a
mile
from
the
the
softball
stadium,
so
you
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
people
that
are
going
to
those
those
things
that
are
just
one
mile
away:
lots
of
people
travel
via
RVs,
and
so
what
this
development
plan
will
provide
is
a
very
unique
to
Oklahoma,
City,
upscale,
RV,
Treehouse
and
and
Tiny
home
project.
That
I
think
will
bring
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
energy
to
what's
already
happening
on
I-35.
I
Of
course,
we
all
know
what
the
branding
that
we're
trying
to
to
further
on
I-35,
it's
the
adventure
road.
So
what
we
think
we
have
here
is
squarely
in
line
with
that
Adventure
Road
concept.
We
did
go
meet
with
the
council
person
before
we
filed
anything.
She
asked
us
to
reach
out
to
various
Community
organizations.
We
did
that.
We
believe
that
we
have
very
broad
support
from
multiple
community
community
groups
and
that
they're
excited
about
all
the
opportunities
this
might
bring
to
36th
and
I-35.
I
So
with
that
there
are
two
technical
evaluations,
both
of
which
we
agree
to
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions
and
we're
excited
about
this
project.
D
Thank
you,
and
this
is
in
my
award,
I'll
say
at
the
outset:
I'm
excited
about
it.
I
think
it's
a
great
opportunity,
given
the
nature
of
that
area.
D
I,
it's
important
to
me
at
least
that
that
whatever
we
we
put
in
this
area
is
able
to
respect
the
natural
beauty
and
environment
of
that
area
and
I
think
this
is
a
great
way
to
make
it
an
attraction
that
honors
the
the
at
least
you're,
going
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
natural
beauty
of
Northeast
Oklahoma
City
with
by
bringing
people
to
this
area.
D
I
do
have
one
question
and
it
is
about
the
the
phrasing
on
page
two
with
the
facade
regulations.
David,
yes,
sir,
are
we.
We
typically
have
the
requirement
that
it's
like
70
for
everything
essentially
but
ethist,
and
the
30
for
ethos.
Are
you
open
to
just
moving
to
that?
Is
there
a
reason
why
we
didn't
do
that
in
normal
language,
yeah.
I
Because
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
different
types
of
structures
when
you
think
about
what
you
might
see
at
an
RV
park
with
kind
of
community
buildings
or
like
small
amphitheaters,
we're
worried
about
that
70
threshold,
creating
problems,
so
what
we
have
included
are
what
we
believe
to
be
materials
that
are
still
going
to
allow
is
the
concern
ifas.
Yes,
we
remove
ephes
yeah
or
limited
to
no
more
than
30
percent.
U
D
D
The
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
PUD
1923
to
city
council,
adding
an
additional
technical
evaluation
requiring
that
efis
be
limited
to
no
more
than
30
percent.
Is
there
a
second
second?
D
We
are
now
in
line
for
a
vote.
Commissioner
Claire
yay,
commissioner
powers.
C
D
AD
Good
afternoon,
Caitlin
Turner
522
call
Court
Drive
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
is
an
application
to
rezone
the
property
to
permit
the
two
existing
structures
to
remain
there's
currently
a
single-family
home
and
the
accessory
structure
to
the
right
there
both
drives
are
clearly
existing
already.
So
this
application
is
to
allow
minimum
lot
size
of
two
acres.
AD
Nothing
else
is
changing.
Nothing's
changing
on
the
exterior
just
some
Renovations
on
that
structure
to
the
north,
to
make
it
livable
it's
currently
just
an
accessory
structure.
So
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Gotcha.
D
D
D
D
G
I
Once
again,
David
box,
522
Concord
Drive
I,
want
to
thank
the
neighbors.
The
chairman
we've
had
some
Zoom
calls.
My
understanding
is
my
clients
also
spoken
to
some
other
folks,
so
the
site
is
zoned
I2,
which
is
a
bit
strange,
given
its
proximity
to
residences,
to
the
West.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
ready
the
site
for
development,
and
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
to
move
some
of
the
earth
and
and
move
some
of
the
dirt.
I
So
what
I2
requires
to
do
that
when
you're
not
ready
for
development
is
a
special
permit
and
they
call
it
mining
when
you
do
these
things,
our
hope
is
that
we
have
put
enough
controls
within
the
program
description
and,
in
addition,
by
agreeing
to
the
technical
evaluation
that
we
have
insured
compatibility
with
what
we
are
proposing
with
what
exists
to
our
West.
That
being,
if
you
look
through
the
program
description,
you
will
note
that
we
have
a
200
foot
requirement
as
a
setback
from
a
residence
as
well
as
a
70
foot
setback.
I
Otherwise,
so
that,
coupled
with
the
te
which
says
tree
shall
be
preserved
within
setbacks
were
adjacent
to
apply
to
Central
neighborhood
means
there
will
be
a
large
swath
of
trees
that
go
undisturbed
and
preserved
where
we
are
adjacent
to
those
residences.
So
200
feet
I
think,
is
a
sizable
setback,
so
we're
hopeful
that
we
have
allowed
a
compatible
use
in
the
interim
so
that
we
can
hopefully
bring
something
that
would
be
far
more
compatible
than
what
I
too
would
be.
So
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
again,
we
do
agree
to
the
te.
D
Thank
you-
and
this
is
in
my
ward
and
we've
had
some
great
discussions
and
I
know.
We've
got
our
neighbors
here
that
are
going
to
want
to
be
hurt
as
well
David.
Could
we
two
things?
One
I
know
that,
through
this
convoluted
set
of
regulations,
there
is
the
200
foot
buffer
from
the
property
line
of
the
residences
to
the
West
I'm
wondering.
D
I
Well,
I
mean
what
I'd
say
is
in
the
Pro,
so
it's
like
a
PUD
right.
So
the
what
governs
this
rather
than
the
master
design
statement
is
the
program
description.
So
in
the
program
description,
we
do
have
a
200
foot
setback
from
a
residence.
So
that's
baked
in
to
the
program
description
and
then
what
we're
adding
is
so
that's
considered
a
setback
right.
So
then,
what
we're
adding
is,
but
then
whatever
is
defined
as
a
setback.
I
Within
the
program
description,
the
trees
will
be
required
to
be
preserved,
so
the
te
has
drafted
already
gets
us
there.
Gotcha.
G
G
From
the
resident
70
feet
from
property
lines
about
200
for
many
residents
itself,
so
which
one
controls
I
believe
it's,
whichever
is
greater
at
any
particular
time,
but
it
really
would
depend
s.
G
I
know
that
there
are
so
there's
as
you
get
to
one
corner,
there's
a
resident
that
the
residents
that
approaches
the
property
line
pretty
pretty
closely.
The
others
are
right
on
the
other
Street.
But
but
yes,
that's
correct
is
200
feet
from
the
from
the
essentially
the
back
wall
of
most
of
those
home
of
those
homes.
On
on
that
street,
how.
D
Do
we,
how
do
we
ensure
that,
along
the
the
property
line,
there's
going
to
be
consistency,
no
matter
where
the
setback
is
that
everybody
knows
that
this
is
where
the
buffer
is
going
to
start,
because
I
think
that's
where
there's
going
to
be
confusion
for
the
neighborhood
is
if,
if
it
depends
on
each
individual,
where
each
individual
home
is
is
situated
on
the
street,
that's
different
than
my
understanding
that
we
were
we
were.
We
were
basing
it
based
on
the
the
property
line.
I
So
what
we
could
do
is
whatever
the
furthest
East
back
wall
is
on.
Cherry
Street
would
establish
where
the
200
foot
line
starts.
Okay,
so
that
it's
it's
a
clear
line
of
demarcation,
which
is
beneficial.
The
neighborhood
also
beneficial
to
my
client
instead
of
the
being
kind
of
a
jigsaw
puzzle
right.
So
we
could
establish
te2
that
the
measurement
of
the
200
feet
along
the
houses
on
North
Cherry
Avenue
shall
be
established
by
the
furthest,
East
homes
back
wall,
to
have
that
200
foot
setback.
I
Y
Well,
my
only
concern
with
that
is
people
like
to
enjoy
their
backyards,
so
when
you're
in
your
backyard,
enjoying
your
property,
that's
when
you
need
the
buffer
so
for
these
operate
mining
operations,
so
I
mean
I.
Don't
is
that
how
big
of
a
difference
are
we
talking
about
here?
Really
if
we're,
if
we're
measuring
it,
just
from
the
property
line,
I
mean
these
are
not
the
deepest
lots.
Are
these.
I
They
don't
look
to
be
that
deep.
My
guess
is,
the
houses
are
25
feet
or
so
off
so
I
mean
the
other
anomaly.
Here
is,
of
course
it's
Zone
died
too
right.
If
we
had
a
development
ready
to
go,
we
could
do
what
we're
doing
without
getting
a
special
permit
and
we'd
be
way
closer
than
200
feet
under
the
code.
I
think
they're
getting
a
benefit
of
a
greater
setback
than
what
the
I2
would
require
today.
D
That's
the
that
is
the
trade-off.
I
think
I
think
my
concern
is
similar
to
commissioner
govanes,
but
we've
had
we've
had
this
discussion.
I
think
I'm
also
just
deeply
concerned
about
the
Neighbors
being
clear
about
where,
where
it's
going
to
be
allowed
to
occur,
like
that's
just
the
notice
that
that
aspect
of
it
is
just
really
what
concerns
me,
is
it
being
clear
what
that
buffer
is
going
to
be,
but
let's
go
and
hear
from
the
neighbors.
So
that
way
we
can
make
sure
that
their
voices
have
been
heard
in
this
process.
D
Line,
okay,
that
helps
that
definitely
helps.
Thank
you.
First
person
signed
up
to
speak
is
Joyce
Willis
or
Miss
Thomas
either.
One
is
fine.
You
all
gotten
shy
on
me.
AE
That's
gonna
say
no,
so
we're
not
shy
hello.
My
name
is
Joyce
Willis
I
am
the
president
for
the
garden
neighborhood,
Council
and
I
am
here
today
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
1000
residents
that
that
are
within
the
neighborhood
Mr
Fox
is
correct.
We
have
had
some
Zoom
meetings
and
we
appreciate
both
of
both
of
you
for
cooperating
and
having
a
conversation
with
us.
AE
One
of
the
things
that
you
just
discussed
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
that
I
did
come
to
stand
in
defense
of
the
Cherry
Avenues
neighbors,
because
they
do
want
to
enjoy
their
property
and
their
backyards,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
that
has
come
to
to
like,
for
some
of
the
residents
is
to
be
clear
about
what
your
strip
mining
does
for
the
environment
or
the
neighborhood
the
we
they
want
to
get
some
assurances
or
that
there
won't
be
great
disturbances
of
dust.
AE
I
So
this
will
be
regulated
not
just
by
our
special
permit
program
description,
but
the
state
department
of
mines
and
odeq,
and
so
what
odeq
will
require
is
that
appropriate
measures
are
taken
for
dust,
whether
that
means
a
water
truck
on
site,
silt
fencing
all
of
those
things.
So
there
are
State
rules
in
addition
to
the
city
rules
regarding
mining
operations.
So,
yes,
we
will
adhere
to
all
Municipal
regulations,
state
regulations
and
any
federal
regulations
that
exist.
D
AF
Is
it
true
that
strip
mining
can
erode
the
soil
or
reduce
its
fertility,
and
it
can
also
pollute
the
waters,
a
drainage,
underground
water
reserves
and
it
can
alter
the
landscape
landscape
and
damage
our
roads
now
I've
gone
through
there,
because
I'm
just
over
in
the
next
neighborhood
I,
see
sewer
lines
all
the
going
down
those
the
side
of
the
street.
So
what
are
you
going
to
do
about?
That?
Is
that
going
to
affect
our
surface
of
the
ground
surface.
I
No,
so
what
we're
doing
is
removing
essentially
removing
the
soil
readying
the
site
to
be
developed.
So
when
you
remove
the
soil,
one
of
the
things
we're
going
to
have
to
do
is
install
proper,
silt
fencing
so
that
there
is
not
erosion
and
runoff
and
all
those
things
that
is
a
DEQ
and
an
Oklahoma
City
requirement.
So
we
will
follow
all
those
rules
to
ensure
that
we
don't
have
those
environmental
impacts.
AF
When
our
neighbors
look
out
their
backyard
and
I
want
I
went
to
a
neighbor's
house
and
I,
don't
think
she
was
the
owner
of
the
house
but
I.
She
let
me
go
in
her
backyard
and
if
it
was
I,
don't
understand
how
poor
that
was
going
to
be
from
her
house
and
our
neighbors.
Some
of
them
didn't
even
know
you
all
said
you
had
talked
to
the
neighbors
I,
don't
know
if
you
talked
to
the
neighbors,
the
owners
or
to
the
to
the
people
that
live
there.
I
AF
I
I
had
a
zoom
meeting
with
Mr,
Pennington
and
I.
Believe
you.
I
I
There's
no
way
for
for
us
or
the
city
to
know
who
is
or
is
not
an
owner
that
notice
gets
sent.
Typically,
what
we're
hopeful
is
that
the
neighbors
kind
of
get
together
and
tell
everyone
that
a
meeting
has
been
had
what
I
would
commit
to
is.
You
know
we're
happy
to
have
as
many
meetings
as
necessary.
This
is
not
the
final
stop.
It's
a
recommendation.
Ultimately,
we'll
go
to
city
council.
I
So
if
there's
some
people
that
don't
feel
like
they
were
heard
in
our
zoom,
we're
happy
to
have
additional
zooms
now
in
terms
of
your
question
about
what
is
there
going
to
be
a
wall?
No,
what
we
think
is
going
to
be
better
is
keep
all
those
trees,
the
trees,
okay,
so
we're
not
going
to
touch
those
trees
within
that
that
buffer
within
the
program,
description,
okay,.
AF
So
the
neighbors-
you
told
me
that
you
well,
you
said
that
someone
had
talked
to
the
neighbors
and
all
they
were
all
for
it.
But
from
what
I
understand
the
neighbors
don't
know
anything
about
it
now
they
may
not
be
the
property
owners,
but
they
live
there
and
you
said
that
they
were
that
I,
don't
know
if
it
was
you
or
the
owner
of
the
property.
He
said
that
they
had
talked
to
the
neighbors.
The
neighbors
told
me.
AF
AF
And
is
it?
Is
it
true
that
it
could
possibly
just
destroy
some
of
the
structures
with
those
strip
mines?
No,
that's
not
true.
AF
So
how
do
I
know
that
I'm.
AF
AF
Your
structures,
if
you're
doing
strip
mining
yeah
and
it
can
erode
the
soil
Can
it
can
it
destroy
the
structures,
no.
I
So
I
mean
what
again
we're
going
to
be
mining
at
a
good
distance
away
from
the
homes.
What
I
would
say
is
if
there
was
damage
to
a
home.
I
would
direct
you
to
go
see
a
lawyer
and
sue.
D
Thank
you,
Miss,
Thomas
and
I.
Do
want
to
reiterate.
I
am
fully
committed
to
helping
facilitate
these
meetings,
so
Miss,
Willis
and
I
will
we
can
visit,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
councilwoman
nice
also
to
join
us,
but
appreciate
David.
Your
efforts
to
keep
us
all
together,
keep
us
informed
on
this
and
and
the
efforts
to
just
get
the
right
language
to
protect
the
neighbors.
So
definitely
I'm
appreciative
of
that.
D
Okay,
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
commissioners
is
there.
Anyone
here
wanting
to
be
heard
on
this
item
I
have
some
questions.
Please.
H
Go
ahead
thanks
all
right,
David
this
one
I'm
a
little
surprised
because
I
didn't
see
anything
in
the
application.
In
writing.
Maybe
I
missed
it.
That
said,
this
was
just
to
prepare
for
some
other
development.
I
thought
this
was
just
a
mind.
It
looks
to
me,
like
you
know.
We
say
in
here
a
lot
of
times
once
you
have
something
approved
whatever
this
applicant's
going
to
do,
doesn't
necessarily
limit
the
future
applicant.
H
You
said
it's
not
development,
ready
or
you'd
be
going
a
different
direction,
I'm,
not
sure.
Why?
Then
we're
not
waiting
until
we
have
something
development
ready
and
we
actually
know
what
this
is
for.
H
Let's
see
comments
about
the
state
department
of
mines
and
DEQ
I
mean
I,
hear
that,
but
I
would
assume
what
they
would
limit
this
to
would
be
what
is
compatible
for
a
mine.
So,
while
you
know
we
talk
about,
you
know,
dust
blowing
and
things
I'm,
just
afraid.
I
don't
have
enough
comfort
that
those
agencies
wouldn't
say
well.
Yeah,
it's
a
mine,
there's
going
to
be
some
dust,
but
what
may
be
okay
for
the
Mind
may
not
be
okay
for
the
Neighbors.
H
Let's
see
I'm
going
to
have
a
have
a
question
here,
but
first
one
make
these
points.
So,
let's
see,
let's
just
get
to
it
unless
I
missed
it.
I
didn't
hear
that.
There's
some
limit
on
this
to
a
year
or
two
to
get
ready
for
a
development
seems
to
me.
It
could
be
Perpetual.
They
could
be
mining
10,
20
30
years
from
now.
Maybe
I
missed
that.
If
I
did
please
correct
me
and
otherwise
to
mitigate
this
I'd
need
to
hear
it
was
more
than
200
feet.
H
I
heard
something
about
well,
once
you
go
to
actually
do
a
development,
it
can
be
closer
but
I'm
still
not
comfortable
with
that
to
approve
a
mine
I'm
going
to
need
it
to
be
limited
to
a
number
of
years
or
much
farther
than
200
feet,
I'm
more
concerned
than
the
folks
that
have
stood
up
the
neighbors
I'm
concerned
on
their
behalf.
I
So
it's
it's
five
years,
there's
also
an
additional
check
that
if
six
months
go
by
without
use
a
special
permit
lapses,
so
in
in
terms
of
what
I
meant
by
the
I2.
So
we
are
removing
topsoil
because
we're
removing
it,
but
it's
not
part
of
a
development
that
requires
a
mining
permit,
because
it's
independent
from
a
development.
If
we
were
ready
to
develop
an
industrial
development,
we
could
move
all
the
topsoil
that
we're
intending
to
move
here
and
more
and
we'd
be
much
closer
than
200
feet.
I
As
outlined
in
the
program
description,
we
would
be
whatever
the
I2
regulations
next
to
i1
or
next
to
R1,
so
it'd
be
25
feet
with
no
requirement
that
trees
be
preserved.
We
could
rip
down
every
tree
on
that
site
and
build
a
sight-proof
screen
and
be
complying
with
the
I2.
W
I
The
reality
is,
it's
unlikely
that
there's
any
viability
for
an
industrial
development
here
and
that
we
will
have
to
come
in
for
a
rezoning
application
is
the
reality
of
the
situation
based
upon
where
it's
at
and
proximity
to
the
highway.
In
terms
of
so
you've
got
a
state
mining
commission,
and
then
you
have
odeq
right
so
they're
concerned
about
two
different
things.
The
mining
commission
is
concerned
about
how
you
are
actually
mining.
I
Be
yeah,
so
we
already
have
a
permit
from
the
state
mining
commission
that
outlines
all
of
this.
We've
tried
to
bake
all
that
into
the
the
program.
Description.
I
Give
me
a
moment
so,
but
then
DEQ
is
of
course
concerned
about
the
other
things
they're
concerned
about
erosion,
they're
concerned
about
dust.
That's
where
the
sill
fencing
comes
in.
That's
where
the
requirement
of.
J
H
Under
this,
is
there
a
limit
on
how
deep
it
can
be,
though,
how
deep
we
can
cut
yeah
you're
saying
it's
just
the
surface
a
mind
to
me:
I!
Imagine
it
being
deep!
If
this
is,
you
know
and
I
know
we're
not
doing
a
Putters,
but
here
we
can't
put
specific
limitations,
maybe,
but
if
this
said
we're
not
digging
deeper
than
10
foot,
we're
not
going
to
do
this
longer
than
a
year
or
two.
If
we're
gonna
be
farther
than
200
feet,
I
can
get
more
comfortable
with
it.
I
We'd
have
to
come
back,
I
mean
there's,
there's
a
check
on
it.
There
hold
a
moment,
so
we
have
like
I,
said
I'm
holding
a
permit,
that's
been
issued
from
the
state
mining
commission
that
is
part
of
your
packet,
but
in
terms
of
the
specific
depth
of
the
cut.
H
And
apology-
and
it's
not
that
I
want
some
exact
footage,
just
if
this
is
surface.
Where
is
that
clear
if
this
could
be
300
feet
deep
in
a
full-blown
mine
and
somebody's
going
for
years,
digging
out
just
to
supply,
whatever
all
is
being
mine
that
that's
not
for
future
development?
That's
a
mine.
I
C
T
H
I
No
one
of
the
problems
is
there'd
be
no
way
to
to
measure
the
depth
right
like
the
mining
commission
has
granted
us
as
permit
the
city
doesn't
have
an
independent
topographical
survey
telling
us
how
deep
that
we've
mined
the
city
is
literally
just
authorizing
the
use
the
mining
commission
is
who
is
monitoring
the
balance
of
the
stuff.
H
All
right:
well,
okay,
thanks
I'm,
afraid
I'm,
not
convinced
I
feel
like
I'm
a
proven
a
mine
whether
for
your
applicant
or
future
owners
of
this
and
I
can't
get
comfortable
with
a
mine
like
this,
and
these
these
folks
back
backyards,
I'm
afraid
so.
I
It's
this
is
not
an
uncommon
occurrence
where
you
are
adjacent
to
the
river.
There
are,
in
fact,
if
you
keep
going
north
further
Northeast
Oklahoma
City,
there
are
dozens
and
dozens
of
these
operations.
I
200
feet
is
the
biggest
setback
that
I've
been
a
part
of
in
any
of
these
mining
operations,
and
there
are
residential
uses
and
structures,
Up
and
Down
the
River,
where
mining
operations
take
place.
This
is
a
very
common
occurrence.
I
know
it
sounds
weird
we're
using
the
worst,
using
the
words
mining
but
again
I
go
back
to
the
current
zoning
of
the
property,
we're
giving
more
assurances
and
setbacks
and
I
think
protections
to
the
neighbors
then
otherwise
exist.
H
H
It's
your
day,
job,
not
mine,
I'm
sure
you're
right,
but
we
probably
have
it,
but
it
does
seem
unusual.
Still
it's
it
doesn't
I'm
not
used
to
this
just
to
get
ready
for
a
development,
so
I
can't
support
it
unless
I
know
what
the
development's
going
to
be
and
some
more
specifics,
it
just
seems
too
too
open-ended
to
me.
I
C
In
my
legal
career,
I
had
the
opportunity
to
learn
way
more
than
I
had
ever
dreamed
about
sand
mining.
The
term
mining
is
really
really
misplaced.
It
is
a
term
of
art,
but
but
if
you
think
in
your
own
mind
of
it
as
removal
they're
removing
topsoil
they're,
removing
gravel
they're
removing
sand,
there
are
no
holes
building
drug
being
dug
down
into
the
ground
and,
and
that
is
controlled
by
the
permits
that
they
have
and.
H
Real
quickly,
because
I
don't
want
to
make
something
of
it,
while
I,
if
I
knew
that
for
sure,
but
it
seems
to
me
like
we're
approving,
could
be
more
than
that,
it
could
be
50
foot
deep.
It
could
and
it
could
be
a
long-term
mind,
even
if
it
seems
to
me
I
get
that
it
can
be
a
terrible
if
they're
really
planning
on
doing
what
they
say.
But
we
a
lot
of
times
say
we
cannot
trust.
H
I
Is
different:
this
is
not
like
a
conceptual
site
plan.
These
are
documents
filed
and
approved
by
the
state
mining
commission.
We
cannot
exceed
that.
We
cannot
exceed
the
program
description
that
were
to
be
approved.
This
isn't
a
pretty
picture
that
exists
in
puds.
These
are
documents
controlled
by
the
city
and
a
state
agency
limiting
what
we're
doing
to
what
we
have
filed.
Y
If
my
concerned
I
just
I'll,
say
it
one
more
time
because
I
still
have
the
same
concern
is
that
when,
when
we
reviewed
this
in
advance,
I
was
under
the
understanding
that
it
would
be
200
feet
from
the
property
lines
of
the
adjacent
neighbors
and
the
trees
would
be
preserved
within
that
200
feet
and
I
think
that's
more
appropriate.
These
are
there's
a
number
of
homes
they're
established
homes.
Y
I
I
need
to
defer
it
my
client's,
not
here
and
thus
far
they've
been
unable
to
do
that.
Again.
We
think
what
we're
offering
is
significant
by
agreeing
to
keep
those
trees.
That's
not
a
requirement.
We've
agreed
to
do
that
through
the
te.
So
we
think
that,
what's
shown,
there
is
a
fairly
significant
buffer
that
would
protect.
D
Let's
see
if
we
have
the
votes
for
200
from
the
property
line.
At
this
point
it
looks
like
we're
at
at
we're
at
100,
because
wheat
trees
preserved.
I
D
The
other
thing
that
I'll
I'll
say
I
had
the
same
initial
reaction
as
commissioner
of
Forge
and
the
the
way
I'd
phrase
it
is
slightly
different.
I
was
concerned
about
the
scope,
I
didn't
understand
what
I
made
the
same
assumptions
about
what
mining
meant
so
I
initially
was
like.
Oh
my
God.
What
are
they?
What
are
they
going
to
do
it
wasn't
until
I?
D
Had
it
explained
to
me
more
carefully
what
it
is
exactly
that
we're
giving
them
permission
to
do
at
first
I
thought
it
was
that
we
were
giving
them
some
rights
to
to
extract
minerals
of
some
kind
from
the
ground.
That's
what
I
thought
once
I
once
it
was
clear
that
what
they're
actually
trying
to
do
is
remove
some
of
the
dirt.
D
That's
that's
different,
so
I
know
and
I
think
that
was
that
was
commissioner.
Powers
point
was
just
because
they
used
the
term
mining
does
not
mean
that
that's
the
actual
scope
of,
as
of
the
definition,
is
mining
in
the
traditional
sense.
That
I
think
that
you
and
I
are
at
least
I
initially
thought,
but
go.
H
Ahead
the
reason
I'm
stuck
on
this
is
because,
if
I
knew
what
this
development
was
going
to
be,
then
I
might
buy
in
more,
but
without
and
and
earlier
today,
we're
talking
about.
Well,
you
know,
I
wanted
more
detail.
What
are
we
really
talk
about
here
and
this
this
one
I
just
I,
don't
know
that
I
can
trust.
This
is
really
for
a
development
dirt
is,
is
valuable
in
certain
locations
to
move
it.
I
think
it
might
be.
I
need
to
know
that.
V
D
Other
questions
concerns
thoughts
from
Commissioners.
It
sounds
like
commissioner
box
I
mean
it
sounds
like
Mr
Box
is
going
to,
although
it
feels
like
he
is
because
he's
here
every
every
time
he
wants
us
to
wait
on
voting.
You
all
want
to
ask
another
question:
go
ahead,
Miss
Thomas.
AF
On
strip
mining
strip,
mine,
it
removes
the
topsoil
and
it
says
it
only
goes
down
a
few
feet,
but,
like
Mr
Lepore
said,
if
it
goes
down
10
feet,
what
does
that
do
to
the
our
our
residents?
You
know:
will
it
move
them
or
what
you
know,
even
though
you
might
be
200
feet
from
us,
I
played
on
the
Oklahoma
River
as
a
kid,
and
it's
slowly
slowly
going
down
now.
AF
So
if
Mr
Box
comes
in
and
he's
near
the
Oklahoma
River
and
he
does
some
strip
mining,
what
does
that
do
to
our
homes
that
are
there
now
when
we
already
know
the
Oklahoma
River
just
through
nature,
it
has,
it
has
come
closer
to
our
homes,
so
so
there's
a
difference
between
a
few
feet
and
Miss.
He
said
50
feet,
I,
don't
agree
with
that,
and
I'm
scared
of
10
feet.
Like
Mr
Laporte
said
you
can't
guarantee
us,
can
you
miss
the
Box?
How.
A
D
Well,
if
we
deferred
I
mean
that
just
gives
more
time
for
this
discussion,
and
so
that's
perfectly
fine
with
certainly
with
me,
unless
we're
ready
to
vote
up
or
down.
Y
D
The
motion
is
to
continue
this
item
to
the
February
23rd
meeting.
It's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
Hinkle,
commissioner
Claire.
How
do
you
vote
yay
Bishop
powers,
commissioner
privet,
commissioner
Hinkle,
commissioner
govine
yeah,
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
Forge
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
the
unintended
Consequence.
The
unintended
negative
consequence
and
I
mean
this
for
Miss
Willis
and
Miss
Thomas.
The
unintended
negative
consequence
of
the
choice
that
we
just
made
is
that
this
process
will
go
on
a
lot
longer.
D
So
so
you
should
anticipate
that,
since
we're
not
going
to
have
another
meeting
on
this
issue
until
the
23rd
of
February
that
then
no
matter,
then
the
next
action
that
would
be
taken
would
be
six
weeks
from
there
to
the
city
council.
So
we
are
talking
about
another
two
to
three
months
of
or
more
of
of
considering
this.
So
that's
the
negative
consequences
that
we're
going
to
be
having
this
discussion
a
while.
So.
AE
And
that's
okay
with
me
because
I
understand
that
it
is
a
process,
but
we
did
just
like.
We
said
that
we
have
conferred
with
you
in
Mr
Box
and
though
just
like
Mr
laforge
asked
there
were
questions
that
I
that
we
asked
of
his
client
and
they
did
answer
and
so
ongoing
conversations
should
be
had,
because
the
the
whole
neighborhood
will
will
have
a
zoom
and
we'll
have
a
major
discussion,
because
maybe
there
are
some
questions
that
I'm
not
asked
out
of
the
20
questions
that
I
asked.
AE
Maybe
there
are
some
questions
that
I'm
not
asking
that
they
that
they
might,
but
just
as
Ms
Thomas
asked
those
questions
they
were
included
in
the
questions
that.
A
AE
Sent
them
and
asked,
and
so
we
did,
you
know,
do
our
due
diligence
but
but
I
would
like
for
our
residents
to
be
able
to
say
that
they
had
to
save
versus
me
as
their
delegation
to
speak
on
their
behalf.
D
P
Good
afternoon,
Mark
zitza
with
Johnson
Associates
addresses
one
East,
Sheridan
Avenue.
Actually
that's
good.
This
is
a
project.
We're
really
excited
about.
It's
a
project
near
the
39th
Street
District.
Within
the
last
couple
years,
the
39th
Street
District
had
a
new
Street
enhancement
project
done
new
trees,
new
Paving
brand
new
sidewalks,
a
lot
of
new
lighting.
P
It
looks
great,
you
should
go
out
there
and
this
particular
part
of
town
has
experienced
some
issues
with
with
homelessness
and
congregations,
and
this
particular
piece
of
property
has
history
with
that,
it's
an
old,
OG
easement,
it's
about
75
feet
deep,
it's
a
little
bit
unique
in
that
it's
sat
between
residential
lots
and
it
stretches
I
believe
all
the
way
back
to
Classen
Boulevard.
Over
the
last
10
years,
there
has
been
some
developments
that
have
occurred
in
these
easements.
You
can
see
on
this
map
off
of
Kentucky.
P
There's
a
house,
a
single
family
home
that
was
built
there
somewhat
recently.
We
did
not
receive
any
protests.
We
did
receive
two
letter,
two
letters
and
I,
don't
know
if
The
McCoys
are
here
I
believe
it
was
from
Mr
Mrs
McCoy.
One
letter
specifically
addressed
this
property
being
Troublesome
to
police
and
fire
and
homeless
encampments
that
existed
on
the
site.
When
our
client
purchased
the
property,
they
installed
a
fence
and
a
gate
in
an
attempt
to
keep
encampments
out
of
it.
P
With
this
project,
we
think
that
ultimately
is
going
to
solve
that
issue,
not
only
because
we'll
have
access
that
goes
from
Kentucky
to
Hemingway,
but
also
there
will
be
people
on
site
in
a
property
management
company
that'll
ensure
that
the
property
remains
clean
and
safe.
The
other
letter
that
was
received
referenced
a
lot
of
Google
searches
about
gas
explosions.
P
We
got
with
Ong,
there
have
been
no
explosions
on
this
block
that
they
were
aware
of.
All
the
lines
in
this
area
are
residential
service
lines
that
would
service
anyone's
home
to
with
like
a
gas
range.
So
through
our
section
and
our
property,
there
are
no
high
pressure
gas
lines
and
there's
not
even
any
Ong
Lines
within
our
site.
Of
course,
if
these
units
end
up
using
gas,
we
those
will
be
installed
with
current
modern
day
requirements
and
standards.
So
those
are
the
two
letters
that
were
received.
P
That
I
don't
know
if
they
made
it
in
your
packet,
but
were
likely
emailed
to
you
after
conversations
this
week,
we
do
have
four
Tes
that
we'd
like
to
add
the
first
te
being
no
rooftop,
no
rooftop
patio
patios
are
permitted.
Number
two
is
if
developed
as
multi-family,
the
number
of
buildings
will
be
no
less
than
five.
This
is
to
prevent
one
long,
linear
structure
on
the
entire
block.
P
P
Their
signage,
they're
envisioning,
almost
kind
of
like
a
marquee,
if
you
think
classic
curve,
there's
kind
of
a
structure
over
the
driveway
that
denotes
kind
of
what
they're
driving
into
that's,
where
they
would
like
their
signage,
but
we
agree
that
it
won't
be
internally
illuminated
to
prevent
you
know
any
light
from
adjacent
Neighbors.
The
the
other
item
that
we'd
like
to
talk
through
are
stop
signs.
This
is
a
unique
project
in
that,
because
of
the
depth,
our
driveways
are
not
going
to
be
two-way.
P
It's
going
to
be
one
way
in
and
one
way
out
and
how
that
is
configured
is
the
in
is
off
of
Kentucky
and
the
out
is
onto
Hemingway.
Hemingway
is
an
interesting
intersection
Jared
if
you
can
go
perfect,
where
there's
a
curb
cut
and
there's
essentially
two
two
public
streets,
paralleling
each
other,
Pennsylvania
and
Hemingway,
so
what
we
would
like
to
do,
but
on
the
applicant
side,
it's
difficult
for
us
to
get
this
done
without
the
city.
P
Initiating
an
application
is
to
put
a
stop
sign
on
the
Northbound
and
southbound
Street
of
Hemingway,
and
we
will
have
a
stop
sign
that
comes
out
of
our
development.
There
will
so
it'd
be
a
three-way
stop.
We
are
not
proposing
a
stop
sign
coming
off
of
Penn.
We
believe
that
traffic
needs
to
get
off
of
Penn
quickly
and
not
back
up
into
it.
But
it's
just
a
it's
an
an
interesting
and
unique
area,
and
we
think
those
stop
signs
would
be
necessary.
P
The
reason
is
the
applicant
that
it's
more
difficult
for
us
to
do.
This
is,
we
need
66
percent
of
signatures
of
adjacent
property
owners
and
that
can
be
difficult
to
get
the
traffic
commission
will
not
dock
it.
Our
request
if
we
do
not
meet
that
minimum
threshold,
whereas
if
the
city
is
to
come
in,
they
can
put
in
stop
signs
without
needing
to
meet
that
threshold.
P
Our
office
would
be
happy
to
assist
in
the
preparation
of
any
paperwork
and
any
exhibits
that
are
needed,
but
the
city
being
the
applicant
does
make
it
a
much
easier
process
for
something
that
I
think
we
would.
All
agree
should
be
done,
and
this
is
the
interesting
intersection,
I
think
between
land
use
and
Transportation,
Planning
and
I
know
there
are
different
bodies
and
boards.
E
P
So,
ultimately,
the
in
and
the
out
the
same
traffic
same
number
of
cars
are
going
to
circulate
around
the
block.
The
way
we
have
this
designed
is
the
parallel
parking
off.
E
Just
thinking
about
Hemingway
and
Pennsylvania,
and
all
that
I'm
just
wondering
that
if
the
majority
of
your
folks
are
coming
off
a
pin
and
the
way
that
you
kind
of
have
it
right
now,
as
it's
almost
a
straight
shot
in,
whereas
when
you're
leaving,
you
have
to
make
a
right,
a
slight
Jog
and
then
back
to
your
left,
I'm,
just
wondering
from
a
congestion
just
from
a
traffic
flow
standpoint
and
if
you're
having
to
stop
on
your
way
out.
E
But
if
you
had
inbound
traffic
they
wouldn't
have
to
stop
if
it
just
wouldn't,
if
you
wouldn't
have
better
flow,
if
you
had
the
n
off
of
Hemingway
and
then
people
just
come
in
off
of
Pennsylvania
and
just
go
right
in
I'm,
not
sure
how
that
weighs
out
against
a
little
bit
of
awkward
having
a
parallel
park
on
the
other
side.
I
think
there's
plenty
of
one-way
streets
where
there's
parallel
parking
on
both
sides
that
people
you
know
have
to
do
that.
Every
once
in
a
while.
P
If
I
may,
there's
there's
one
other
reason:
Jared,
if
you
go
back
to
our
site
plan,
one
of
the
things
we
tried
to
be
cognizant
of
ultimately
I
think
we'd
be
agreeable
to
whichever
flow
of
the
direction
you
would
all
would
ask
of
us,
but
on
the
off
of
Kentucky
side
we
have
folks
coming
in
that
way.
There
is
a
single
family
home
that
we
were
trying
to
be
respectful
of
so
rather
than
every
car
exiting
that
and
pointing
their
headlights
at
that
home.
P
C
This
is
in
my
ward
of
course,
and
I
drive
down
41st
Street
about
100
times
a
week
and
when
I,
when
we
when
we
first
started
talking
about
this
I'll
say
this
is
a.
This-
is
a
really
interesting
little
piece
of
property.
It's
Unique
to
the
Max
and
it
is
problematic
in
direct
proportion
to
that
and
I
have
I,
have
walked
in.
C
Neighborhoods
and
you
know
all
kinds
of
things
over
the
years,
all
of
those
people
went
away,
I
mean
the
the
idea
of
getting
it
to
be
actually
developed,
I
think
is,
is
a
plus
in
terms
of
just
in
field
development.
You
know
Oklahoma
City
and
the
need
that
we
have
for
that
and
the
need
that
we
have,
for
you,
know,
modest
and
affordable
housing.
A
C
Mean
I
I
am
in
favor
of
seeing
it
develop
and
I
have
thought
a
lot
about
how
it
would
work.
I
too,
actually
started
off
thinking.
You
would
make
more
sense
to
go
in
off
Hemingway,
but
I
think
you
know,
as
as
you
approach
the
intersection
it's
it's
currently
a
tea
that
goes
off
onto
Pennsylvania
here.
With
this
entry
you're
almost
creating
a
four-way
stop,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
stay
at
T
and
I.
C
Think
if
people
have
to
stop
if
they're
coming
out
of
the
the
development
and
can
look
to
their
left
and
look
to
their
right
and
see,
cars
either
stopped
in
either
direction
or
can
see
coming
straight
at
them
across
pen,
which
happens
so
often.
You
know
into
that
little
I
don't
even
know
what
to
call
it.
Inlet
off
of
a
pen
on.
C
C
AG
Yeah
to
your
point,
classroom
and
Philip
2801,
North,
Hudson,
I,
agree
and
something
Mark
didn't
mention
on
the
stop
signs,
I,
don't
think
inside.
It
would
be
a
stop
sign,
coming
off
of
the
new
drive
and
then
north
south,
but
then
coming
off
of
Penn
would
not
have
a
stop
sign.
So
you
would
have
that
flow
coming
in.
You
know
off
pen
kind
of
unrestricted,
but
I
think
it
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
pause
at
that
intersection
because
it
is
a
little
bit
strange.
AG
P
Likely
in
time
as
residents
move
in
I,
I
think
what
we'd
find
is
that
they're
more
likely
to
use
40th
or,
if
they're,
coming
from
the
south,
to
work
off
a
39th
and
come
down
Kentucky
they're
gonna
have
the
distance
doesn't
get
shorter,
but
it
saves
an
extra
stop.
In
turn.
To
avoid
coming
in
off
the
odd
median
opening
off
of
pin.
C
D
C
As
you're
coming
out
of
of
the
Brahms,
that's
there
on
the
south
side
of
40th
Street
you're
directed
not
to
turn
so.
The
the
traffic
coming
out
of
Brahms
is
directed
to
Hemingway
and
I.
Think
it
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
for
there
to
be
stop
signs
there.
Oh
I'm,
sorry.
D
D
P
Y
P
Me
through
that,
please
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
clarify
that
commissioner
Powers
shared
the
same
concern
that
you
know
if
we
approve
this,
what
stops
either
this
developer
or
future
one
of
building
one
extremely
long,
linear
building,
and
so
that
is
not
our
client's
intent.
So
the
thought
process
between
behind
this
te
is
that
by
saying
no
less
than
five
buildings
for
multi-family
requires
that
building
to
be
broken
up
at
least
five
times.
P
P
So
I
can
let
class
answer
that,
but
we're
still
working
through
the
buildings
and
the
programming.
This
is
conceptual.
There
are
some
things
that
are
still
shifting
around.
We
felt
that
five
was.
That
was
a
number
that
would
allow
it
to
be
broken
up
enough.
But
if
one
or
two
of
these
buildings
end
up
getting
combined,
it's
not
going
to
prohibit
us
from
moving
forward
with
that's
a
that
type
of
design
and
again
class
can
speak
to
the
just
the
tightness
of
these
buildings
and
the
number
of
units
within
them.
You
know
we
just.
A
Y
AG
It's
a
working
document
but
we're
looking
at
all
kinds
of
different
options,
but,
for
example,
you
know
it
is
a
tight
site
and
we
want
to
maintain
a
one-to-one
parking
two
unit
ratio
roughly,
so
it's
almost
without
that
language
it'll
almost
be
baked
in,
because
parallel
parking
isn't
going
to
get
us
all
of
the
parking
that
we
would
need.
AG
So
we
have
those
pockets
of
I
guess
you
could
say
off-street
parking
within
the
development
to
meet
that
parking
requirement,
which
kind
of
breaks
it
up
periodically
so
probably
about
five
five
buildings
would
be
you
know
about
the
minimum
that
we
could
do
to
meet
that
parking
ratio
because
there's
a
balance
too.
If
we
develop
more
develop
more
of
it,
we'd
have
more
units,
we
wouldn't
meet
that
parking
ratio,
so
I
think,
but
that
does
guarantee
that
we're
not
going
to
have
one
big
long
building
down
the
whole.
Y
P
C
D
P
D
D
C
AG
Then
one
or
two
on
the
other
one
depending
on
you,
know
what
we
could
fit
unit
wise
and
then
some
of
the
intent
was
also
to
reuse.
Some
of
the
designs
on
the
larger
plot,
there'll
probably
be
two
or
three
unique,
building
designs
and
see
if
we
can
adapt
that
for
that
other
portion,
the
Western
a
smaller
site,
the
Eastern
site.
AG
Sorry,
you
know
none
of
this
is
you
know
we
don't
have
a
specific
plan
that
we're
coming
with
architectural
plan,
I,
guess
on
how
the
site
will
be
laid
out,
we're
trying
to
just
kind
of
Define.
You
know
what
we
can
and
can't
do
from
a
kind
of
macro
development
standpoint,
so
yeah,
the
five
five
is
kind
of
a
number
that
we
felt
kind
of
matched.
What
we
were
thinking
I
think
there's
some
flexibility
that
we
could.
You
know
on.
C
AG
Y
But
I
would
encourage
you
to
try
and-
and
you
know,
be
sympathetic
to
the
pattern
of
development
of
the
neighborhood.
P
So
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
we're
going
to
amend
the
te
that
was
te2
to
if
the
Western
tract
of
this
spot
is
developed
as
multi-family,
the
minimum
number
of
buildings
will
be
five
and
then
I
like
the
line
just
to
help.
But
this
is
to
prevent
one
long,
linear
structure,
just
a
belt
and
suspenders
I
think.
C
AG
Or
the
private
trash
service
and
we
won't
have
any
dumpsters
because
it'll
be
really
difficult
for
a
traditional.
You
know
trash
service
like
that,
probably
so
we're
going
to
work
with
a
private
trash
contractor
to
remove
trash,
probably
more
of
a
poly
cart
type.
So.
M
D
Other
questions
we
do
have
someone
signed
up
to
speak,
I
I
will
say
this
for
the
benefit
of
of
my
wife
and
the
two
or
three
other
people
that
are
watching
this
meeting,
that
this
is
just
a
conceptual
plan.
So
it
is
important
that
the
language
and
the
words
that
we
use
are
really
really
important,
because
that's
what
we'll
be
binding
for
The
Architects.
D
AG
Know
real
quick
too,
it's
kind
of
people,
sometimes
from
an
architectural
standpoint,
with
a
unique
site
you
know,
like
commissioner
Powers
was
talking
about
you
know
it's
tough
to
go
really
far
down
the
road
on
an
architectural
design
and
you're,
not
sure
if
you
can
get.
You
know
what
that
approvable.
You
know,
parameters
are
going
to
be
for
this.
A
AH
That's
the
series
utility
I
just
wanted
to
address
a
comment
that
commissioner
Levine
made
about
putting
the
building
or
on
the
South
Side.
The
south
side
is
where
we
have
a
sewer
main
running
for
the
houses
on
that
side,
so
we
would
not
want
a
building
on
the
south
side
of
the
property
okay
unless
they
relocated
that
sewer
line
and
reconnected
all
those
houses.
So
that's
this
I
just
want
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
AH
K
Market
clay,
1708,
Northwest,
41st
I,
actually
own
five
properties
on
the
41st
and
none
of
my
properties
back
up
to
this
this
year.
But
the
same
thing
is
going
on
behind
mine,
I
question
a
lot
of
things.
You
see
you
go
up
and
down
41st
all
the
time.
I've
lived
there
since
94,
so
I
really
go
up
and
down
there
the
amount
of
traffic
and
putting
in
and
free
for
them
to
ask
you
guys
to
approve
to
stop
signs
as
kind
of
going
around
the
neighborhood.
No.
D
K
The
homeowners
who
live
there
and
because
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
already
just
when
we
have
to
deal
with
the
people
who
come
from
the
Hemingway
and
people
who
come
off
a
pen
and
people
coming
from
Brahms,
there's
already
there's
been
so
many
accidents
there.
I
can't
even
count
the
number
and
to
now
put
two
more
stop
signs
right
there
and
the
question
about
these
homes.
Are
they
going
to
be
two-story?
K
K
People
enjoy
their
yards
and
after
living
there
for
all
these
years,
who
wants
to
come
step
out
your
backyard
or
close
your
windows
because
everybody
across
the
back
is
looking
at
your
house,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
to
consider
than
oh.
Let's
do
it
because
the
homeless
are
breaking
into
this
Alleyway,
because
it's
an
alleyway,
it's
like
80
feet
across
there,
so
you
need
a
road
to
drive
down.
K
All
of
our
utilities
are
on
that
South
Side.
So
if
our,
when
our
electricity
goes
out,
our
cable
goes
out.
They're
in
that
property
fixing
it,
so
it
would
be
on
the
road,
so
the
homeowners
couldn't
get
in
and
out.
If
the
utility
companies
are
working,
so
I
think
there's
a
lot
more
to
consider
it's
just
not.
Oh,
it's
an
unused
property.
This
would
be
great
for
it.
H
Maybe
everybody
else
is
aware,
but
I
wasn't
familiar
with
this
strip
there's
until
today,
or
until
this
meeting
there's
five
blocks
of
that
unique
private
ownership.
It
looks
like
the
same
owner
owns
all
five
blocks
of
that
middle
ownership.
Do
we
know
when
that
became
privately
owned?
It's
a
little
bit
to
his
points
that
something
happened,
the
last
10
or
20
years,
or
has
it
been
privately
owned?
That'd.
D
P
A
H
I'm
sure
it's
always
been
empty
but
or
well
yeah
I
just
wondered
if
it
was
recently,
so
it's
like
these
neighbors.
That
believed
it
was
gonna,
be
one
thing
and
then
it
was
sold
by
the
city-year-old
g
e
or
anyway.
If
we
don't
know
who
owned
them.
H
K
K
H
Yep
well,
and
the
other
reason
I
asked
is
just
because
we
we
say
to
people
when
they
buy
and
there's
an
empty
Field
behind
them.
They
shouldn't
assume
it
wasn't
going
to
develop.
This
will
be
a
little
more
surprising.
It's
always
con.
I
was
curious
when
people
got
surprised
that
well
now
it's
privately
owned
and
who
sold
it.
But
it
sounds
like
we
don't
know
and
really
just
it
doesn't
change
my
opinion
of
it.
H
It
seems
decent
unless
there's
a
lot
of
protesters,
but
the
fact
that
there's
five
blocks
of
this
and
some
of
them
have
some
houses.
I,
guess
it's,
maybe
all
residential
right
now,
so
it
won't
be
the
first
time
I'm
not
against
it.
Necessarily
it's
just
unless
there
was
the
neighbors
all
saying
that
this
got
changed
in
the
last
few
years
to
private
ownership
and-
and
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
case.
P
Don't
know
that
you're
Ariel,
if
you
go
back
to
go
back
to
Jared,
it
shows
it
doesn't
show
far
enough,
but
as
you
move
closer
to
class-
and
it
appears
that
maybe
some
of
the
residents
ended
up
acquiring
pieces
because
it
starts
to
narrow,
as
you
get
over
to
Classen
and
and
in
terms
of
Mr
Clay's
comments-
and
you
know
there
are
easements
that
are
maintained
both
for
the
sanitary
sewer
and
then
electric,
so
any
maintenance
that
needs
to
happen
if
anything,
we're
improving
access
to
those
utilities.
P
And
then
we
discussed
this
at
length
and
internally
when
we
were
developing
the
site
plan,
and
then
commissioner,
powers
and
I
also
discussed
this
by
bringing
the
height
down
to
the
25
feet
in
two
stories.
P
If
you
were
to
look
at
the
Putnam
Heights
neighborhood,
it
is
not
uncommon
for
a
two-story
or
even
the
garage
to
be
on
the
property
line,
particularly
in
these
older
neighborhoods
and
if
they
have
alleys.
So
this
would
not
be
that
unique
of
a
scenario
in
the
core
where
you
have
a
two-story
structure
right,
really
at
your
property
line.
That
was
a
common
occurrence
in
a
lot
of
the
historic
neighborhoods.
D
I
I
think
from
from
my
perspective,
two
things.
One
I
think
it's
important
that
Mr
Clay,
that
we
in
some
way
make
sure
that
he
has.
He
and
the
neighbors
have
information
about
how
to
work
with
the
traffic
commission
and,
what's
required
of
that,
because
again
we
can't
take
any
formal
action
on
that.
But
clearly
it's
needed
I
go
to
that
prom!
So
I,
it
is
chaos
right
there
and
that
does
need
to
be
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
D
I
wish
we
had
that
Authority
I
do
think
we
should
have
a
discussion
about
the
building
height
because
to
Rusty's
point,
if
you're
thinking
it's
a
utility
easement
behind
you,
you're,
not
reasonably,
anticipating,
in
my
opinion,
that
that
you're
gonna
get
have
a
two-story
building
behind
you
at
the
same
time,
Mr
Clay
and
all
of
his
neighbors
also
have
the
right
to
have
two-story
houses
because
that's
standard
in
R1
so
but
it
hasn't
historically
been
the
case.
I
I,
just
wonder:
what's
our?
What
are
our
thoughts
on
that?
Well,.
C
Yeah
I
did
want.
I
did
want
the
development
to
be
consistent
with
the
neighborhood.
It
is
R1
standard
25.
In
fact
shorter
than
would
be
permitted
in
in
R1,
which
would
be
two
stories
and
31
feet.
Is
it.
P
P
This
application
at
40
feet
so
we've
over
the
last
two
months.
I
think
we've
really
worked
and
classes
really
refined,
some
of
the
options
and
the
height
and
that's
how
we
were
able
to
get
it
down
to
25..
A
C
Kind
of
thing,
as
as
I
drive
down
41st
Street
looking
to
the
South,
which
is
where
you
would
be
looking
toward
this
development.
There
is
quite
good
tree
cover
at
the
back
edge
of
most
of
those
homes.
Those
homes
are
quite
modest,
and
it
was
really
really
important
to
me
and
sort
of
where
we
started
off
that
there
not
be
anything
about
this
development
proposal
that
would
in
any
way
endanger
the
status
or
security
of
that
neighborhood
people
there.
They
they
take
good
care
of
their
homes.
C
Y
I
think
they've
made
a
reasonable
compromise
on
the
high
I
believe
in
these
infield
developments.
So
I
I
do
support
it,
but
that
was
really
the
same
nature
that
my
concern
on
the
size
of
these
blocks
is
a
big
long.
Building
doesn't
feel
the
same
of
two
stories.
Looking
in
your
backyard,
it's
not
the
same
as
a
single
family,
home
or
a
duplex,
so
I
didn't
want
to
stretch
it
too
much
further
and
so
I
feel
we
've
addressed
it
sufficiently.
But
I-
maybe
you
know
in
my
opinion,
but
maybe
not
I,.
P
P
A
little
wider,
well,
a
home
could
be
wide
the
when
we
look
at
this
and
we
start
thinking
about
height
before
we
even
make
these
types
of
applications.
The
first
thing
we
do
is
look
at
the
comprehensive
plan
and
what
the
comprehensive
plan
says
is
that
the
appropriate
height
from
structure
to
structure
is
a
three
to
one
height
ratio.
P
E
E
If
this
is
a
discussion,
have
you
have
you
had
any
consideration
of
closing,
that's
more
removing
that
curb
cut
of
Northwest
40th
street,
because
you're
going
to
have
people
coming
Southbound
on
Penn
and
there's
no
there's
no
left
turn
lane
to
come
in
that
way,
and
you
actually
can't
take
a
left
on
40th.
E
P
D
Whether
it's
what
oh
go
ahead-
I'm,
sorry
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
any
staff
from
traffic
who
can
guide
us
on
that,
but
but
I
guess
my
question
is:
do
we
have
to
be
the
deciding
factor
on
this
because
it
should
to
me
it
should
fit
into
an
overall
overall
addressing
the
issues
of
traffic
in
this
area.
D
E
G
C
G
C
Just
have
to
say,
I
guess,
as
somebody
who
makes
this,
who
negotiates
this,
it
is
something
you
have
to
really
pay
attention
to
I.
Think
the
two
stop
signs
would
really
help
that
they're
going
to
put
one
on
their
property
as
well.
So
really,
three
I,
think
I
think
I'm
comfortable
with
that
solution.
C
I
would
be
in
line
with
traffic
commission
jumping
up
and
down
and
yelling
and
screaming
at
the
idea
of
closing
that
little
Inlet
off
of
Ben
there
as
would
half
the
neighborhood
I'm
pretty
sure,
even
though
it
is
difficult
to
navigate-
and
it
is
you,
you
definitely
are
taking
your
life
in
your
hands
getting
across
Spin
and
so
on,
especially
at
Peak
traffic
times,
but
it
would
require
a
reworking
of
the
entire
Exchange
in
order
to
solve
that
problem.
C
D
C
Going
to
move
approval
of
item
number
24,
SPD
1480,
with
the
Tes,
no
rooftop
patios,
no
less
than
five
structures
on
the
western
portion
of
the
property,
so
between
Hemingway
and
Kentucky,
yes,
maximum
Building
height
of
25
feet.
Two
stories:
signage
will
be
allowed
uneliminated
over
the
driveways
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
recommend
to
city
council
that
they
consider
stop
signs
on
the
North
and
South
corners
of
Hemingway,
which.
D
P
One
point
of
clarification
on
te2.
We
just
wanted
to
say
if
it's
developed
as
multi-family
no
less
than
five
buildings,
because
if
someone,
if
they
decide
to
build
a
single
family
home,
that
would
prevent
the
application
from
getting
developed,
because
there
would
be
less
than
five
buildings
that
makes
it
developed.
D
The
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
Spud
1480
to
city
council
with
the
technical
evaluations
as
read
into
the
record,
as
well
as
the
recommendation
to
encourage
the
city
to
be
applicants
in
support
of
us
of
the
stop
signs
on.
D
Please
cast
your
votes
when
available
has
been
seconded,
oh
I'm,
not
even
seeing
the
screen
we're
still
Voice
voting.
Sorry.
D
Do
we
have
a
second
a
second
second
by
commissioner
govine,
commissioner
Claire
abstain,
stains
commissioner
powers.
C
D
Commissioner
Privet
hi
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
aye,
commissioner
Noble
aye,
commissioner
laforge
I
also
vote
I
the
motion
passes.
Thank
you.
I
would
encourage
our
neighbors
to
reach
out
to
councilman.
Cooper
I
would
also
want
you
all
to
know.
The
process
is
not
over.
It's
going
to
continue
six
weeks
from
now
where
the
city
council
will
have
the
opportunity
to
to
review
we're
now
in
line
for
item.
R
Good
afternoon
Jason
Spencer
300
Point
Parkway
Boulevard
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
so
this
is
a
Four
Acre
Site,
located
at
the
on
the
east
side
of
Mustang
Road,
just
north
of
Southwest
44th
Street,
and
basically,
this
application
seeks
to
rezone
the
property
from
the
current
PUD,
which
allows
for
C3
uses
to
an
Spud
allowing
for
personal
storage
in
an
Associated
office.
R
We
have
also
set
architectural
standards
on
this
for
the
buildings,
and
so
we
believe
that
this
is
a
good
step
down
to
the
the
more
intense
commercial
that's
anticipated
to
the
South
and
that's
allowed
in
the
current
PUD.
So
the
current
PD
would
allow
on
this
track,
for
example,
eating
establishments
with
drive-through
laundry
facility,
laundry
service
facilities
and
retail
sales
and
services
to
them
a
few,
and
so
we
think
this
would
be
a
good
transition.
R
As
you
step
down
to
the
hard
Corner
staff
is
recommended,
approval,
there's
two
Tes
and
we
do
agree
with
both
of
those
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
Four:
three:
oh:
are
there
any
questions
from
commissioners.
D
I
I
do
just
want
to
confirm
and
we
are
going
to
have
a
chance
for
our
audience
members
to
have
a
to
present
to
the
commission.
Just
can
we
just
be
clear
one
more
time
on
the
screening
between
this
development
and
the
residences
to
the
north
and
to
the
East?
D
R
So
the
screening
that
we've
that
we've
put
in
would
be
basically
and
no
less
than
a
six
foot,
no
greater
than
an
eight
foot,
high
fence
or
wall
could
be
made
out
of
brick,
stone,
masonry
or
wood.
We
would
also
have
a
five
minimum
five
foot
wide
Landscaping
buffer.
That
would
provide
landscaping
and
they're
nine
points
for
every
25
linear
feet
of
abutment
shall
be
planted,
so
that
would
put
deciduous
or
evergreen
trees
based
at
a
maximum
of
25
feet.
Apart.
D
Question
is
the
existing
zoning
and
what
what
buffering
and
screening
is
required
between
the
residential
and
the
uses
on
this
property.
O
D
AI
All
right,
hello,
commission,
my
name
is
Kyle
McKnight
I
am
on
11308
Southwest
41st,
so
I
would
be
backing
up
directly.
My
backyard
I
would
be
looking
at
a
at
a
storage
facility
now
I'm
actually
representing
the
HOA
board.
That
would
be
my
wife,
but
we
just
welcomed
our
first
child
last
week,
so
she's
recovering.
So
the
fact
that
I'm
here
I
I,
think,
is
a
testament
to
how
important
this
is
to
our
neighborhood.
AI
So
as
a
father
of
a
newborn,
I've
had
lots
of
time
to
stay
up
and
write
out
my
thoughts,
so
I'm
just
going
to
read
them
again.
We
went
through
this
with
the
HOA
board,
mainly
because
the
first
notice
we
got
of
any
development
or
any
change,
was
December
23rd
when
we
got
the
hearing
and
a
lot
of
that
will
kind
of
make
more
sense
as
I
kind
of
go
through
so
I.
AI
Don't
think
that
it's
naive
to
say
that
the
homeowners
of
Canterbury,
the
neighborhood,
would
not
understand
that
at
some
point
this
land
would
be
developed.
We're
not
naive
to
think
that,
but
a
majority
of
us
bought
our
homes
built
our
homes
with
the
understanding
and
doing
the
due
diligence
to
know
that
that
was
zoned
for
housing.
AI
J
AI
Some
of
the
neighborhood
we
had
our
homes
built,
whereas
some
moved
in
we've
done
our
due
diligence
most
of
the
individuals
in
the
neighborhood
and
researching
the
home
before
purchase
part
of
the
point
that
I
purchased.
My
house
was
based
on
that
property
zoning
knowing
that
spud1129
located
in
the
very
southwest
corner.
It
I,
don't
think
it
shows
on
this
screen,
but
actually
on
the
the
next
one
is
zoned
differently.
So
we
have
residential
with
Nest
fed
1129
there,
as
well,
so
on
December
23rd,
those
whose
house
is
backed
up
to
to
this
property.
AI
Our
ideas
were
crushed
of
when
a
majority
of
residents
received
the
hearing
letter.
That
was
the
first
formal
notice
that
any
of
us
have
heard
about
this
free
zoning
and
it
caught
us
off
guard
because
in
the
fall
of
2022,
a
sign
for
a
self-storage
lot
with
a
number
to
call
was
posted
on
the
southernmost
tip
of
this
property,
so
kind
of
where
you
see
this
little
dirt
road
on
44th,
very
close
to
Spud
1129.
AI
There's
a
sign
for
a
self
storage
saying
coming
soon,
with
a
with
a
number
to
call
to
start
preserving
those
units,
so
most
of
us
equated
that
to
being
associated
with
spud1129,
since
it
was
located
closer
to
44th
that
sign
not
necessarily
up
farther
up
Mustang
Road.
AI
So
when
the
sign
occurred,
we
didn't
think
anything
of
it
until
we
got
the
letter
in
the
mail.
So
it
really
caught
us
off
guard
as
a
community
that
this
was
going
to
be
located
very
close
to
our
residents,
mainly
because
that
is
our
backyard.
AI
We
enjoy
our
backyard
going
to
spend
time
in
our
backyard
without
having
fluorescent
lights,
24
7
a
facility
that
can
be
accessed
at
all
times
of
the
night
38
feet
and
four
inches
from
where
my
newborn
child
lays
his
head
at
night,
and
that's
more
of
our
concern
is
just
how
close
this
will
be,
and
I
learned
today
that
there's
there's
a
little
bit
of
cushion
in
there
with
Landscaping
So.
AI
That
obviously
makes
us
feel
more
comfortable,
but
it's
mainly
just
our
concern
of
of
how
close
this
is
for
individuals
coming
24,
7,
fluorescent
lights
of
of
a
parking
lot
or
a
or
a
facility
I
can't
at
one
of
the
things
that
I
look
forward
to
was
putting
up
a
sheet
on
my
back
porch
and
putting
a
projector
and
watching
a
Disney
movie
with
my
kid.
But
that
may
not
be
able
to
happen
if
I
have
24
7
fluorescent
lights
coming
into
my
backyard.
So
mainly
it's
it's
not
that
we're
against
this.
AI
Wasn't
there
so
we
jumped
my
fence
broke
my
fence
in
the
process,
but
more
or
less
they
said
they're
going
to
have
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
work
and
tearing
down
our
existing
fence,
and
we
understand
it's
not
utility
easeway.
We
understand
that,
but
when
I
asked
you
know
when
this
would
be
happening,
he
said
when
it's
approved
by
the
zoning
board.
AI
They'll
just
come
in
and
do
it
whenever
and
they're
not
going
to
replace
it
they're
not
going
to
fix
it
they're
not
going
to
tell
you
when
they're
doing
it,
which
all
seems
to
be
I
get.
This
is
just
a
surveyor.
He
he
is
hired
by
the
Meadow
Lake
homes
to
perform
his
services,
but
it
just
doesn't
go
a
long
way
for
the
good
graces
of
somebody
who's
trying
to
be
doing
and
develop
and
work
right
next
of
our
community.
It
just
doesn't
seem
the
right
way
to
approach
it
and
again
as
an
HOA.
AI
We
are
not
we're
not
against
it.
We
just
feel
that
this
happened
very
fast
without
any
notice
for
us
to
initiate
any
conversations.
There
hasn't
been
any
formal
communication
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
necessary
or
required,
but
it
it
does
seem
to
be
moving
very
fast
and
hasn't,
given
us
a
chance
to
kind
of
talk
as
a
community
and
and
work
through
our
concerns
with
them.
O
So
sorry,
Sarah
Welch
planning
I
just
want
to
correct
something.
I
just
stated
the
current
application
mirrors
the
architectural
regulations
of
the
existing
PUD
they're
in
check,
one
of
that
which
allows
some
commercial
uses
and
then
the
the
existing
PUD
has
a
15-foot
setback
on
both
sides,
a
budding
the
residential
in
this
case
they're,
proposing
I'm
10
on
the
North.
That
would
be
the
difference.
R
Think
we
could
do
that.
Okay,
so
we'll
we'll
meet
with
the
the
existing
PD
said
on
the
setback.
Okay
and
so
I
would
like
to
to
state
that
so
we're
pulling
up
this
PUD
I
mean
this
thing
was
approved,
looks
like
back
in
2009,
and
it
has
seats
there.
Quite
a
few
C3
uses
in
it.
So
you
know
I
I,
understand
that
the
neighbors
don't
look
at
these
things
every
day
like
we
do,
but
this
has
obviously
been
been
in
place
for
quite
some
time.
R
So
I
would
see
this
as
a
as
a
benefit.
This
would
be
as
much
significantly
you
know,
less
intensive
use
than
fast
food
or
a
laundromat
or
or
some
of
those
type
uses,
and
so
we'll
agree
to
do
the
15-foot,
buffer
and
and
I
think
that
it
would
be
a
good
step
down
to
what
we're
likely
to
see
like
I
said
earlier
as
a
more
intense
use
on
the
corner.
There
go.
N
M
Sorry
well,
I
was
I
understand
the
concerns.
Is
there
concessions
that
you'd
be
willing
to
make
as
far
as
lighting
I
mean
I'm?
It
says
in
here
on
site
lighting
that
she'll
meet
city
code,
but
I
mean
I'd
be
concerned.
If
I
was
going
to
have
street
lights
shine
in
my
backyard
all
night
long
too,
and
surely
your
hours
aren't
24
hours
a
day,
seven
days
a
week,
typically
they're,
not
24
7.
R
E
R
I
think,
if
you'll,
if
you
can
pull
up
the
site
plan,
it
shows
that
we've
tried
to
orient
where
we've
got
a
building
along
the
north.
There,
so
there'll
be
the
Landscaping
buffer
and
in
between
it
and
the
neighbors.
That
building
will
have
a
complete
brick
facade
on
it,
and
so
there
won't
be
any
lights
on
the
backside
of
that
all
the
lights
will
be
interior,
pointed
and
two.
D
Unfortunately,
the
existing
zoning
was
done
in
2009
and
and
the
notice
that's
required
by
the
state
is
that
we
mail
it
to
people
within
a
certain
number
of
feet
and
that
that's
the
requirement
that
that
the
state
has
if,
if
I,
could
change
the
law
with
my
and
waive
my
magic
wand,
anybody
who
sells
a
house
next
to
a
vacant
lot
should
have
to
tell
you
the
uses
that
are
allowed
because
and
and
that's
I
I
know.
It
may
seem
that
that
we
lack
empathy
about
this.
D
It's
it's
the
opposite,
I
mean
I,
I,
think
all
of
us.
If
we
had
you
know
our
way,
would
just
we
want
to
protect
all
of
we
want
everybody
who
is
in
a
in
a
house
to
be
safe,
protected,
secure
and
get
to
enjoy
the
full
use
of
their
property,
but
knowing
that
this
existing
zoning
allows
them
to
do
even
more
intense
things
than
this.
For
me,
I
I
feel
more
comfortable
approving
this
than
I
do
saying
no,
and
then
they
put
on
Chick-fil-A
behind
you.
Not
that
I
have
any
problem
with
you.
AI
Just
didn't
we
didn't
know
yeah
what
was
required,
so
I
mean
adding
a
little
bit
of
buffer.
That
helps
us
give
us
peace
of
mind,
especially
when
we
have
our
children
out
there
yeah
enjoying
their
time
so
and
and
I
know
most
most
facilities.
Well,
there
may
not
be
somebody
I
mean
there's
a
chance,
somebody's
going
to
come
check
their
storage
unit
three
in
the
morning.
You
know
I
just
want
peace
of
mind
for
my
family.
That's.
Y
I
am
on
the
color
screen
here
for
one
second,
could
we
see
that
because
you
can't
read
it
in
the
print
in
our
packet?
Quite
the
color
coding
of
that,
but
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
applicant
has
has
made
some
a
good
effort
of
putting
things
in
writing
as
to
what's
brick
and
what's
not
and
I
wanted
to.
Where
was
the
no?
It
was
the
diagram
that's
in
the
packet,
but
it's
in
color
color
plan.
H
R
Yeah,
so
the
the
blue
lines
along
the
the
North
and
part
of
the
South
are
are
completely
brick
facade,
so
we're
right
up
against
the
the
residential
on
the
North.
They'll,
see
the
the
full
brick
facade
and
then
fronting
onto
Mustang
Road
will
be
Malta,
we've
specified
kind
of
a
multi-material
facade
than
we
think
will
Lyndon
and
look
good.
Y
With
the
area
so
no
I
mean
I
think
that's
a
good,
a
good
effort
and
then
the
East
is
a
required
landscape,
buffer,
correct
and
sight
proof.
Screening,
yeah.
R
E
D
E
I
think
we're
ready.
So
are
we
adding
those
as
Tes?
Yes,
okay,
so
I'll
move
to
recommend
approval
to
City
Council
of
Spud
1486,
subject
to
the
technical
evaluations,
one
and
two
and
adding
technical
evaluation?
Three,
that
the
North
Boundary
landscape
buffer
should
be
increased
to
15
feet
and
lighting
site
lighting
shall
be
building
mounted
low,
cut
off
fixtures.
D
D
Want
to
be
clear,
the
motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
SPD
1486
to
city
council
with
the
additional
technical
evaluations
as
read
into
the
record.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
Powers
commissioner
privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine.
J
D
AD
Caitlin
Turner
522
call
Court
Drive.
This
is
an
application
of
rezone
property
on
Penn
and
Northwest
164th.
It's
currently
located
behind
that
Fenwick
shopping
center.
The
Spud
is
to
permit
a
small
scale,
Specialty
Auto
shop
and
also
have
some
cars
on
display.
We
put
in
the
master
design
statement
that
that's
limited
to
a
maximum
of
six
cars.
Again,
pretty
small
scale
doesn't
require
any
Frontage
and
the
property
to
the
east
is
or
excuse
me
to
the
west
of
this
is
actually
this
exact
use
so
very
compatible.
Q
D
Commissioner,
Noble
moves
to
recommend
approval
of
svud
1487
to
city
council.
It's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
Hinkle
in
line
to
vote.
Commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
Mr
Noble
yeah
mission
of
a
fortune
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
ride
on
27.
I
David
box
522
call
Cord
drive.
My
client
operates
rain
guard,
which
is
Jared.
Do
you
have
the
images
that
we've
got
yeah
one
more,
please
it's
upside
down,
but
if
you
turn
your
neck,
you
will
see
it's
a
high
quality
industrial
building.
What
we
have
is
a
base
of
i1,
which
we
believe
to
be
compatible
with
the
area.
Staff
does
recommend
approval.
There's
one
te
that
I
I
need
to
address.
Sorry
Jared,
would
you
mind
going
to
the
aerial?
I
So
what
I
understand
the
te
to
request
is
that
if
we
intend
to
utilize
access
on
the
link
in
which
we
do
that,
we
would
be
required
to
improve
the
entirety
of
Lincoln
to
City
standards.
That
would
be
about
a
half
mile.
That
would
be
exceptionally
expensive.
So
we
think
that
to
be
inequitable,
I
mean
what
we
agree
to
do
is
we
will
improve
Lincoln
in
front
of
our
site,
like
every
other
person
would
be
required
to
do.
Other
developments
have
come
in
and
somehow
avoided
doing
that
or
access
to
the
West.
I
D
Okay-
and
this
is
my
award-
we
had-
we
had
a
fun
discussion
in
the
pre-meeting
about
whether
or
not
we
even
have
the
authority
to
make
this
requirement
in
the
first
place
it.
It
sounds
like
we
do
not
based
on
as
much
as
we'd
love
to
have
you
all
pick
up
the
tab
for
improving
the
street.
D
You
know
it
never
hurts
to
ask
right
so,
but
there
are
concerns.
The
condition
of
the
road
is
poor
and
we
are
concerned
about
that
and
wanting
to
is
there
any
way
for
you
all
to
have
access
to
the
just
for
so
that,
because
I
had
this
discussion
with,
you
want
everyone
to
have
the
benefit
of
this
discussion.
Can
you
talk
about
alternatives
to
access
to
this
property
instead
of
Lincoln
yeah.
I
Given
the
condition
of
Lincoln
yeah
so
to
hedge
against
the
ability
to
have
additional
access,
if
you
look
at
section
9,
we
say
access
shall
be
taken
from
one
drive
off
Lincoln
or
any
other
access
point
approved
by
public
works.
So
there's
a
perhaps
an
effort
or
desire
to
to
go
to
the
west,
and
so
we
allow
for
that.
Of
course,
we
don't
own
that
property,
so
we'd
have
to
get.
I
D
D
I
D
D
Works
for
me,
any
other
questions
from
Commissioners
I
think
we're
ready
for
a
motion.
Mr.
I
Half
half
Street
improvements,
which
was
I,
mean
whatever
the
normal
permit
requires,
is
what
we're
going
to
agree
to
again.
It's
like
saying
that
we
can't
you
know,
have
a
use.
That's
not
allowed
like
this
we're
adding
redundancies
that
I'm
not
sure
makes
sense,
but
can
we
add
that
just
do
the
normal
permit,
whatever
the
as.
C
S
So
I
I,
a
very
large
Public,
Works
I,
think
maybe
the
best
way
to
to
handle
that
would
be
to
either
strike
it
and
add
it
probably
is-
is
easiest
to
reword
It
Strike
that
te
and
add
a
new
te.
That's
pretty
much
the
verbiage
that
David
had
had
stated
that
the
improvements
along
Lincoln
will
be
in
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
the
city,
ordinances
and
Public
Works
requirements.
D
Yeah,
the
motion
before
the
commission
is
to
recommend
approval
of
sbud
1489.
Striking
te1
is
their
second
second
commissioner,
Claire
yay
commissioner
Powers
yay
commissioner
Privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govane
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
good
old
Good
Old
Government,
we're.
G
In
line
for
item
28.,
this
is
SPD
1488
application
of
the
rezone
801
Northwest
64th
Street
from
Spud
1042
1653
and
Spud
1109
to
SPD
1488.
I
Once
again,
David
box
522
Concord
Drive.
So
this
is
the
companion
item
to
item
item.
18.
Excuse
me
that
was
the
closing
application
for
Northwest
65th
Street,
as
commissioner
Powers
referenced
earlier.
You
know
this
was
an
area
that
had
kind
of
gone
back
and
forth
back
and
forth.
Looking
for
an
identity,
I
think
the
recent
Trends
and
the
new
builds
would
tell
you
that
the
what
is
happening
now
is
a
combination
of
office
and
residential.
I
If
you
think
about
where
this
is
located,
just
off
the
63rd
between
class
and
Shartel,
you
are
very
close,
a
mile,
maybe
less,
to
a
full
interchange
right
there
at
63rd
and
Broadway
Extension,
additionally
you're
in
close
proximity
to
Nichols,
Hills,
Plaza
class
and
curve
Chesapeake,
and
all
of
those
things
that
we
have
here
in
the
the
outer
core,
I
guess,
and
so
the
desire
to
have
multi-family
is
is
present.
You'll
know
the
I
can't
think
of
the
name,
but
at
Western,
just
west
of
63rd
the
apartment
complex
that
burned
down.
I
I
We
agree
to
two
I'm,
not
sure
what
it's
asking
us
to
do,
but
Jared,
if
you
could
display
this,
so
the
there's
an
elevation,
the
architect
had
a
site
elevation
produced
and
although
the
garage
is
five
stories
that
North
End
of
the
site
is
a
bit
sunken,
so
the
actual
impact
at
grade
for
that
existing
house
to
the
north
is
just
over
36
feet.
In
height
this
Powers
drove
the
area.
There
are
a
four-story
office
building
in
the
area
that,
frankly,
I
think
is
taller
than
this
will
be.
We
also
have
mitigated
via.
I
Could
you
go
to
the
site
plan
via
buffers
on
the
perimeter
of
the
site
that
you
can
see
here
and
it's
worth
noting
that
there's
no
protest
for
many
of
the
the
single
family
folks
now
I
expect
the
lawyer
that
represents
the
triangle
will
make
comment
here,
but
the
triangle
for
what
it's
worth
has
the
biggest
piece
of
buffer
that
we
have.
So
we
we
think
we
have
appropriately
designed
the
site.
I
We
think
that
the
the
use
that
we
seek
here
is
in
keeping
with
what
the
market
is
demanding
in
the
area
and
we'll
further
the
momentum
of
this
particular
neighborhood.
So
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
C
This
was
not
an
easy
sell
for
me.
Five
stories
is
really
tall,
but
I
went
out
and
really
drove
the
area,
and
you
know
not
only
is
there
this
sort
of
larger,
it's
actually
technically
I
guess
four
stories,
but
it's
like
four
really
tall
stories
that
has
been
built
right
on
the
corner.
C
There
you're
across
the
street
across
63rd,
of
course,
from
the
Chesapeake
campus,
which
is
you
know
at
least
five
stories
most
of
it
parking
garage
is
included
and
as
Mr
Box
alluded,
the
the
residential
structure
that
burned
and
we'll
see
if
it
gets
rebuilt.
But
this
was
this
is
kind
of
a
leap
of
faith.
For
me,
I
must
say
there
are
also
some
buildings
that
front
on
63rd
that
are
five
stories
tall.
C
There's
a
a
St
Anthony's
like
SSM
Outpost
here,
just
just
up
the
hill,
and
they
are
they
appear
taller
because
they
are
up
the
hill
and
also
there's
an
office
building
just
closer
to
this
one.
As
I
said,
this
is
a
bit
of
a
leap
of
faith
for
me,
but
I
think.
Maybe
this
is
really
the
way
this
area
is
moving
and
so
I
I'm
I'm
willing
to
take
it.
So.
D
I
I
had
a
similar
concern
and
that's
why
that
that
image
Jared
the
previous
one,
the
view
from
the
from
the
neighbors
perspective
that
one
was
compelling
for
me,
I
was
I,
was
most
concerned
about
what
it
would
feel
like
to
go
in
your
own
backyard.
If
that
was
there,
so
you
know
I'd
love
to
hear
Nate's
take,
or
you
know
other
with
that
professional
background.
D
As
far
as
what
what
that
the
reality
of
of
what
that
would
look
like
is
I'd
love
to
hear
their
perspective,
but
that
was
comforting
to
me,
commissioner,
powers
in,
in
my
analysis
as
well
other
questions
or
comments
from
commissioners.
Y
I
agree
with
that
sentiment
on
the
parking
garage,
boundary
and
I
think
the
nature
of
those
homes.
While
they
are
existing
homes,
they
do
seem
to
be
getting
replaced
with
larger
developments
at
a
rapid
pace.
So
though,
I
did
have
one
question,
though,
which
was
related
to
the
20
open
space
te
which
you
David,
you
did
say
you
agreed
to
that
one
number
one.
We.
I
Do
we
agree
to
one
in
three
I,
don't
frankly,
know
how
to
I
don't
know
what
to
do
with
te2
I
mean
I.
Guess
we
could
commit
that
the
height
at
the
20-foot
line
will
be
what's
shown
on
that
exhibit.
Y
Well,
Mike
actually
I
wanted
to
ask
a
different
question
about
the
open
space
requirement
which
may
be
for
staff,
which
is
does
that
and
that
can't
include
parking.
Can
it
I.
Y
O
G
Yeah,
so
the
better
defined
would
be
the
amenity
space,
and
so
so,
in
other
words,
Green
Space
well,.
Y
My
concern
is
this:
is
that
I
can
see?
The
parking
counts
here
are
are
high,
the
application
says
it
will
meet
the
you
know,
parking
standards,
that's
a
lot
of
spaces,
it
looks
like
more
than
that
garage
would
hold,
but
I
might
be
misjudging
the
scale.
So
I'm
wondering
when
is
all
the
surface
parking
going
to
be
added
around
the
perimeter,
or
is
that
not
what
the
intent
is?
No.
I
Yeah,
there's
there's
no
intent
to
have
to
have
surface
parking.
My
belief
from
what
the
The
Architects
and
the
designers
have
told
me
was
we're
completely
comfortable
with
the
20
and
that
doesn't
include
structured
parking
or
the
building.
So
perhaps
we
can
modify
the
te
to
be
20.
Open
space
shall
be
provided
exclusive
of
parking
garage
and
building
I
mean
the
the
Green
Space.
You
see,
my
belief
is
the
Architects
tell
me
we
have
20
open
space.
G
Think
that's
what
we're
yeah
we're
trying
to
say
is
that
that
those
the
green
area,
the
trees
Etc,
that
is
amenity,
space,
yeah
and
Landscaping,
and
the
only
parking
is
in
the
parking
garage
is
that
correct,
David,
yes,
okay,
yeah
yeah,
so.
I
I
Why
I
wasn't
sure
about
that's?
Why
I
don't
think
yeah,
but
we
can
add
that
language,
because
we
also
have
that
interior
Courtyard.
That,
of
course,
will
be
open
to
the
sky.
It's
got
a
pool
and
all
those
things
so
that's
activated
space
now,
I
guess
I'd.
Caution,
though,
like
of
course
next
to
a
pool
you're
going
to
have
concrete
yeah,
but
that
I.
Y
I
I
G
Y
AB
Listen
from
henryson
henrikson
lawyer,
zinc,
600,
North,
Walker
Avenue,
here
in
Oklahoma
City,
a
vacation
of
that
right
away
in
item
number
18
will
still
have
to
go
before
the
city
council,
and
so
it
would
be
premature
to
approve
any
rezoning
that
involves
that
that
right
away
there
on
Northwest,
65th
and
I
would
ask
that
this
item
here
be
cables.
AB
AB
C
Very
common
for
us
to
make
decisions
that
are
contingent
upon
the
occurrence
of
other
events.
Then
I
mean
it's.
What
we're
addressing
is
the
land
use?
Yes,
if
they
don't
get
that
vacated,
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
build
this,
but
yeah.
C
1488,
subject
to
what
did
we
ever
decide
about
te2?
Are
we
just
going
to
strike
it
or.
C
I
Than
we
could
refer
to,
this
exhibit
in
terms
of
the
height
at
the
northern
property
line.
C
So
I
I
guess
I
am
I.
Think
that
you
have
met
the
requirement
of
teacher
I,
don't
know
a
way
to
make
sure
that
the
people
at
plan
review
or
permit
whatever
you
know,
we'll,
also
see
it
that
way.
But
if
you
want
to
suggest
a
way
that
you
can
be
assured
of
That.
I
So
currently
the
Spud
has
two
exhibits.
Is
my
belief.
We've
excuse
me
three
exhibits.
We
could
make
this
exhibit
d,
and
so
we
could
say
strike
or
reword
te2
to
say
the
building
height
along
the
northern
property
line
shall
be
pursuant
to
exhibit
D
and
we'll
resubmit.
The
Spud
add
this,
as
exhibit
d.
D
Motion
is
to
recommend
approval
of
Spud
1488
to
city
council,
subject
to
the
technical,
technical
evaluation
amendments
as
read
into
the
record
by
commissioner
Powers.
Is
there
a
second
it's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
privet,
or
was
it
commissioner
Hinkle
sorry
I,
just
I
didn't
look.
I
should
have
looked
commissioner
Claire.
How
do
you
vote
yay,
Mr,
Powers,
yay,
Mr,
President,
hey
Mr
Hinkle,
commissioner
govine
yay,
commissioner
Noble
yeah,
commissioner
laforge
and
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
for
item
29.
I
Once
again,
David
box,
522
coal,
Court
Drive
here
on
behalf
of
the
applicant.
This
is
an
Spud
that
would
allow
a
lot
of
the
users
that
are
already
there
to
remain
I
hope
everyone
had
the
opportunity
to
look
at
this
on
Google
Earth
at
least
streetscape.
What
you
would
see
is
a
wonderfully
redone
house.
My
client
actually
lives
in
the
house,
that's
on
the
corner
and
then
operates
his
business
to
the
West.
He
is
been
in
contact
with
the
neighbors.
I
A
A
I
N
I
think
this
is
good
to
get
this
into
conformance,
because
it
was
an
eyesore
before
but
I'm
an
approval
of
it.
Anybody
else.
A
D
D
Privet
moves
to
recommend
approval
of
Spud
1491
to
city
council.
Is
there
a
second
second
second
by
commissioner
Hinkle,
commissioner
Claire?
How
do
you
vote
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
yay,
commissioner
Hinkle,
commissioner
govine
yay,
commissioner
Noble
yay,
commissioner
laforge
I
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
for
item
31.
30.
Excuse
me,
I'm,
skipping.
I
Once
again,
David
box
522
call
forward
drive.
This
is
an
application
for
R4
at
Western
and
Memorial.
We
have
a
traditional
C3.
Intense
commercial
in
the
corner
to
our
north
and
east
is
actually
a
series
of
duplexes
that
are
developed
under
the
R3.
If
you
look
at
the
aerial,
Chisholm
Creek,
the
tributary
actually
runs
through
there,
so
we
have
a
nice
natural
buffer
that
will
exist.
It's
consistent
with
the
comp
plan.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
protests.
Staff
recommends
approval.
D
Thank
you.
This
is
in
my
ward.
Of
course,
my
concern
was
about
the
neighbors
to
the
Northeast,
the
fact
that
there's
that
natural
landscape
buffer,
on
top
of
the
fact
that
this,
the
the
stories
of
the
the
scale
of
the
buildings,
is
limited
to
two
stories
alleviates
any
concerns
that
I
had
about
that
issue.
So
I
I'm
in
full
support
of
this
proposal
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
commissioners?
D
D
Commissioner,
Claire
moves
to
recommend
approval
of
PC
10856
to
city
council.
Is
there
a
second
commissioner?
Hinkle
has
seconded
it,
commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
yeah,
commissioner
Hinkle
Mr
Golden
yay
Mr
Noble
yay,
commissioner
Forge
I
also
vote
I.
The
motion
passes
we're
now
in
line
for
item
31.
G
This
is
a
CPA
number,
six
for
2022
consideration
of
a
proposed
math
Amendment
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
changing
the
Luda
by
removing
the
agricultural
preserve
layer
and
changing
the
base
Luda
from
RL
to
RM,
located
east
of
North
Cimarron
Road
and
North
of
Northwest
10th
Street.
AJ
AJ
The
site
is
located
in
North
Cimarron
and
Northwest
10th
Street,
the
actual
Luda,
is
real
low.
With
the
agricultural
preserve
overlay.
It's
important
for
you
to
see
that
everything
surrounded
it
is
very
similar,
similar,
it's
very
low.
With
an
agricultural
preserve
to
the
West,
we
got
the
airport
CE
a
you
cannot
really
see
it
very
well
there,
but
it's
heavy
industrial,
because
it's
the
airport
next
one,
the
actual
online
news,
is
undeveloped.
It's
some
rural
residential
but
is
very
rural.
That
area
the
zoning
is
agricultural.
AJ
AJ
The
site
folds
outside
of
the
water
services
or
there's
no
potential
for
a
system
to
expansion
in
that
area
that
not
reflects
how
far
is
more
than
three
miles
from
any
you
know,
connection
I
I
see
some
of
you
looking
like.
So
probably
you
see
some
water
lines
there.
There
is
a
water
line
there
that
runs
north
to
south
is
Canadian
County.
They
have
the
option
to
request
a
connection
to
Canadian
County.
AJ
If
Connecticut
accounting
refuses
the
connection
they
could
request
connect
to
the
city,
there
is
a
line
that
runs
South
in
10th
street,
but
utilities.
Let
us
know
the
engineers
that
their
that
line
does
not
have
capacity
for
them
to
connect
or
any
subdivision
to
connect
to
that
line.
So
there's
not
a
possibility
for
them
to
connect
to
city
water.
At
this
moment,.
AJ
AJ
There's
no
possibility
of
Emergency
Services,
either
they're
very
far
from
Emergency
Services
they're
longer
than
rural
response,
but
it's
not
adequate
for
for
this
type
of
development,
the
conditions
and
Provisions
for
higher
levels
of
services
have
not
changed
for
the
subject:
site,
no
expectation
for
extension
of
water
sewer
or
fewer
fire
stations
to
improve
emergencies.
Response
time
is
available
in
this
area.
One
acre
lots
are
not
compatible
with
the
rural
medium
designation
until
the
Plano
KC
policies
and
regulations,
and
for
that
the
staff
recommends
denial
of
these
request.
I
Yeah
Again
David
box
522
call
Court
Drive,
so
we
agree
that
one
acre
lots
are
not
compatible.
One
of
the
reasons
we
wanted
to
continue.
This
item
is
because
we
have
modified
a
request
to
be
an
ra2
application.
I
So
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
two
acre
lots,
perhaps
there's
more
room.
One
of
the
things
we
were
hoping
to
do
is
have
a
broad
neighborhood
meeting
with
with
all
the
folks
that
are
here
again
we're
willing
to
move
to
two
acres.
Perhaps
there's
even
more
room,
it's
worth,
noting
that
we
had
a
similar
application,
south
and
west
of
this
site.
It's
a
the
other
site
was
just
south
of
the
airport
staff
also
recommend
denial
of
that
conference
plan
application.
I
Our
request
there
was
for
an
ra2
Planning
Commission
recommended
approval,
and
ultimately
city
council
approved
an
ra2
application
just
south
and
west
of
the
subject
side.
So
not
sure
what
to
do
here
again,
the
the
analysis
is
based
upon
the
ra
application.
Our
request
is
to
modify
it
to
an
ra2
application
consistent
with
a
recent
approval.
That's
happened
in
the
area.
Of
course,
we're
you
know
we're
we're
now
more
than
doubling
or
we're
doubling
the
lot
size
by
that
request,
so
not
sure
how
to
address
it.
Yeah
at
this
hour,
5
15.
D
Okay,
any
questions
for
the
applicant
before
we
talk
about
process
can
I
can
I
give
just
a
little
bit
of
warning
before
we
proceed
and
I
might
not
do
it.
Justice
so
I'll
ask
staff
to
help
me
it's
important
for
our
neighbors
to
understand
this.
This
process
is
being
divided
on
the
first.
D
The
first
question
before
the
commission
is
about
our
comprehensive
plan,
so
the
comprehensive
plan
has
was
a
public
document
publicly
developed
by
City
staff
about
the
way
that
in
the
long
run,
our
city
is
going
to
be
developed
before
we
can
even
consider
a
change
in
zoning.
We
want
the
zoning
to
be
consistent
with
what
the
comprehensive
plan
says,
since
what
the
applicant
is
asking
for
is
not
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
He
is
first
asking
for
us
to
change
the
comprehensive
plan.
D
D
D
But
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
that
at
this
point
the
discussion
is
about
whether
or
not
it
is
appropriate
for
us
to
change
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
next
question
will
be
on.
The
next
item
will
be
about
whether
or
not
we
should
rezone
this
property
to
allow
for
this
type
of
residential
development
that
the
applicant
has
in
mind.
So
just
want
to
be
clear
about
that.
I
do
have
some
people
signed
up
to
speak
and
it
might
be,
it
might
be.
You
are
you
Jim,
Brown
excellent?
Would
you
come
to
the
microphone.
J
I'm
Jim
Brown
at
15001,
Northwest
10th
Street.
If
you
look
at
that
property
in
question,
the
entire
eastern
border,
the
parcel
just
to
the
east
of
that
is
my
home.
So
a
four
point
of
clarification.
He
had
indicated
that
there
was
an
area
in
close
proximity
that
had
recently
been
reconsidered
or
are
rezoned
for
what
he's
requesting
here,
one
distinguishing
difference
that
I
would
point
out
between
this
particular
property
and
that
property,
which
he
said.
If
it's
right
by
it.
J
This.
This
property
actually
has
shell
Creek
running
right
through
the
middle
of
it.
Shell
Creek
is
a
volatile,
Little
Creek
multiple
times,
Oklahoma
City
police
officers
have
to
sit
there
whenever
it
floods
to
keep
traffic
from
going
through
there.
Shell
Creek
is
a
tributary
feeds
into
the
Canadian
feeds
into
your
drinking
water,
so
100
septic
systems
or
50
septic
systems
near
shell.
Creek
is
different
than
septic
systems.
Two
miles
down
the
road,
so
I,
don't
think,
there's
a
comparison
to
say:
there's
a
similar
property
close
by
that
meets
similar
requirements
to
this.
J
We
can
talk
if
we're
going
to
have
other
items
on
the
next
agenda
about
why
we
should
not
allow
one
acre
homes,
I
think
he's
already
conceded
that
they
don't
intend
on
requesting
that,
even
though
that
was
the
notice
that
we
received
in
fact,
I
didn't
receive
notice
of
this
particular
agenda
item
I.
Don't
know
why
I
received
notice
of
the
next
agenda
item.
J
So
this
is
news
to
me
as
a
homeowner
when
I'm
walking
into
this
committee
meeting
that
there's
more
stuff
going
on
here
that
we
still
haven't
been
aware
of
and
and
Mr
Box
is
quite
experienced
if
they
had
intended
to
accommodate
or
meet
with
the
neighbors.
They
would
have
done
that.
Well
before
this
time
he's
not
a
rookie
at
this
and
and
so
I.
J
Don't
think
there
was
any
intention
unless
there
was
huge
opposition
to
even
make
a
concession
that
we
would
try
to
talk
with
the
neighbors
and
work
this
out
or
come
up
with
a
workable
solution.
So
if
there's
another
agenda
item,
I
can
come
back
and
talk
about
it
or
I
can
express
my
concerns
about
one
acre,
lots
but
I
think
that's
a
given
so
well.
I.
D
J
Whichever
way
it's
going
to
be
because
there's
a
lot
of
reasons,
this
shouldn't
be
zoned.
For
two
acres,
I
mentioned
the
shell
Creek
area.
There
was
a.
There
is
water
access
to
my
home
from
Oklahoma,
City
and
I'm
in
the
property
adjacent
to
that,
but
the
water
pressure
is
so
low
that
it's
certainly
not
going
to
be
accommodating
50
homes
or
or
more
on
the
property
in
question.
J
I
had
an
intruder
attempt
to
get
into
my
home
and
it
took
37
minutes
for
police
to
respond
so
I,
don't
know
if
that's
safe
one
per
acre
or
one
per
two
acres
or
how
you
accommodate
to
that
I
know
better
schools
which
this
District
Falls
in
are
already
using
temporary
buildings
and
can
accommodate
the
current
needs.
There's
other
development
close
to
Banner
schools.
This
would
be
significantly
impact
packing
our
our
rural
school
districts
and
and
the
roads.
There's
lots
of
oil
and
gas
activity
that
close
proximity
to
the
city.
J
The
roads
are
in
constant
state
of
disrepair,
particularly
on
that
corner
that
she
was
kind
enough
to
show
pictures
of
the
creek
floods.
I
could
go
on
and
on
about
why
putting
a
whole
lot
of
homes
or
high
density
homes
in
this
area
just
makes
absolutely
zero
sense
and
we've
all
been
here
a
long
time,
so
I'd
rather
vote
on
it
tonight,
instead
of
coming
back
again
and
again
and
I'm
sure
we'll
still
come
back
again
and
again
with
additional
requests.
But
that's
that's
my
concerns.
D
Thank
you
to
that
to
that
point
and
I'm
I'm
looking
to
Commissioners
to
guide
me
here
on
where
our
thinking
currently
is.
To
that
end.
D
To
me,
that's
the
the
point
of
delaying
and
having
a
community
conversation,
because
if
it
turns
out
that,
after
discussion
that
the
way
that
it's
around
that
the
way
that
the
houses
are
arranged
on
the
lots
that
we
can
get
to
an
appropriate
size
of
the
lots
that
maybe
the
neighbors
may
become
amenable
to,
we
haven't
had
a
discussion,
a
more
thorough
discussion
with
you
all
actually
contributing
to
that
and
seeing
what
the
applicants
willing
to
do
before
we
render
a
decision,
and
so
that's
why
my
vote
today
will
be
for
a
continuance
and
I
I
and
I
empathize,
with
the
fact
that
the
discussion
would
continue.
D
H
I
might
add
to
that
and
it's
sort
of
I
agree
with
Mr
chair
I'd.
Add
to
that
commissioner
Powers
could
add
even
more
than
I
spent
serve
a
long
time,
but
we
have
seen
when
the
groups
get
together.
Some
accommodations
made
to
where
both
sides
can
be
happy.
I
do
regret
that
it
didn't
occur
before
I
I
get
what
you're
saying
about
you
guys
came
down
here,
and
maybe
that
should
have
happened
before.
H
Unfortunately,
we're
typically
inclined
to
push
towards
still
hoping
that
the
parties
can
discuss
and
find
some
ways
that
some
agreements
could
be
made.
I
hate
that
it's
a
meeting
today
for
you
guys
and
potentially
another
one
later,
there's
a
little
bit
of
posturing.
Maybe
you
know
the
one
acres,
oh
yeah,
we're
giving
it
two
acres.
Well,
there's
probably
a
lot
more
give
I,
don't
think
that
the
applicant
necessarily
is
just
going
to
be
stuck
with
nothing
more
than
that.
So
I
do
think.
H
It
doesn't
always
happen
that
you
guys
come
back
and
or
that
the
applicant
and
the
Neighbors
come
back
and
everybody's
in
agreement,
and,
if
not,
then
that's
when
we
hear
what
what
the
differences
were
that
remained
to
talk
about
it
today,
unfortunately
you're
a
long
ways
apart
and
we're
going
to
have
a
hard
time,
as
the
chair
said,
a
vote
in
up
or
down,
because
we
just
don't
know
how
far
apart
you
guys
will
end
up
being
so.
H
I
regret
that
the
discussion
didn't
already
occur,
but
I'm
going
to
be
in
favor
of
waiting
given
some
time
to
give
you
guys
a
chance
to
discuss.
A
Y
D
A
AK
With
that
understanding,
that's
why
we
bought
that
property.
We
are
farmers
and
we
are
ranchers
Horsemen
Cattlemen,
family
people.
We
love
our
country
life.
We
was
on
the
understanding
that
it'll
be
five
acre
lots
for
everybody,
north
south
all
around
us.
So
that's
why
we
bought
that
property.
I
invested
my
livelihood
into
that,
and
so
have
many
of
my
neighbors
and
what
I
want
to
tell
you
guys.
Is
we
the
people
and
there's
many
of
us
here
right
now
are
going
against
one
person.
AK
AK
We
have
hunters
to
the
north
of
his
property,
the
duck
hunt,
so
you
put
five
houses
just
to
the
south
of
him,
how
they
gonna
hunt
you're.
Taking
away
our
way
in
life,
you're,
taking
away
every
Green
in
Oklahoma,
City,
Yukon
I,
remember
moving
here
in
the
80s,
there
was
green
everywhere.
That's
why
I
moved
here.
AK
AK
AK
The
infrastructure
that
we're
talking
about
with
all
these
houses,
our
community,
can't
sustain
it.
We're
out
here
in
the
country
we're
the
last
to
see
the
police,
the
fire
department
and
the
rodents.
You
don't
come
out.
15
years,
there's
a
bump
coming
off
of
I-40
that'll
put
you
Airbound,
you
have
to
slow
down
to
five
mile
an
hour
to
go
over
that
bump.
You
all
have
not
come
out
and
fix
it.
AK
I
can't
say
you
all,
but
we've
called
people
and
nobody's
came
out
for
15
years
or
bridges
are
deteriorating
any
more
traffic
that
we
have
is
going
to
hurt
us.
We
would
like
to
see
if
we're
going
to
have
development,
let's
take
care
of
our
roads,
our
streets,
our
electrical
lines,
our
fire
departments,
before
we
bring
that
in
there
and
I
like
to
just
if
I
may,
if
you
could
just
pass
the
phone
around.
D
Thank
you
also
and
I.
I
definitely
appreciate
that
that
is
I
mean
that's.
What
we're
here
to
decide
is
whether
or
not
this
area
is
is
ready
for
this
type
of
development,
and
so
that's
the
question
with
with
the
comp
plan
Amendment
for
sure
and
so
evidence
that
the
infrastructure
is
not
appropriate.
Yet
that's
why
staff
gave
that
explanation
about
all
of
the
parameters
that
that
should
go
into
our
consideration
about
this
decision.
D
The
challenge
that
I
have
is
when
I
don't
know
the
final
form
of
the
ask
it's
hard
to
say.
No.
So,
since
he's
moved
from
one
acre
now
we're
at
two,
maybe
we
end
up
somewhere
different,
it's
hard
to
say
no,
when
I
don't
know
what
the
final
action
will
be
right
right,
so
just
to
be
fair
to
somebody
owning
their
property
and
respecting
people's
property
rights,
and
that's
important
to
me.
Yes,
so
but
I
appreciate
you
coming
down
and
certainly
happy
to
listen
to
other
neighbors
who
have
comments
to
make
as
well.
D
AL
Okay,
okay,
my
name
is
Adam
Slattery
2300
show
Creek,
Road
I
would
implore
you
guys
to
vote
on
this
tonight
today,
whatever
wherever
we're
at
I,
followed
along
with
your
staff
reports,
and
you
voted
almost
100
percent,
what
the
staff
recommended.
AL
AL
So
to
show
up
today
take
time
off
work
as
Mr
Brown
said
and
come
here,
and
you
know
get
told.
Oh
we
want
to.
We
want
to
ask
for
something
different
is
not
right
to
us
as
members
of
the
community.
AL
AL
His
description
of
the
creek
is
is
very
accurate.
You
know
I've
built
I
built
my
prop
I've
built
my
home
on
the
piece
of
property
that
I
own
outside
of
the
flood
plain.
Well,
the
floodplain
maps
are
done
every
five
years,
so
if
we
add
50
60
how
many
of
our
roofs
and
streets
the
only
natural
flow
for
that
piece
of
property
is
into
shell
Creek.
So
in
five
years
from
now,
when
FEMA
updates
their
Maps
is
that
going
to
put
my
home?
AL
Is
that
going
to
redesignate
my
home
into
a
floodplain?
So
there's
a
lot
more
to
to
this
than
we
want
two
acres
or
we
want
to
meet
him
with
the
community.
That's
that's
I'm!
Sorry,
it's
just
not
it's!
It's
not
right!
He!
You
know.
He
knows
how
to
find
us
and
we've
met
with
him
plenty
of
times
over
the
last
three
or
four
or
five
times
that
he's
come
in
front
of
you
and
the
city
council
and
the
Corporation
Commission,
so
to
say
that
they
didn't
have
time
to
reach
the
community.
AL
They
you
know
they
filed
this
in
October.
I
do
believe,
is
what
the
date
is.
That's
ample
time
so
I
would
ask
you
to
vote
on
it
tonight
to
touch
on
the
infrastructure.
It's
it's!
Not
there.
The
school
I'm,
the
school
board,
member
at
Banner,
Public
Schools,
with
kids
and
closets.
AL
The
place
is
busting
out
at
seam
and
and
we
we've
not
been
able
to
keep
up
with
the
growth
that
UConn.
You
know
we
we
take
a
portion
of
Uconn
and
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
that.
But
to
add
you
know
we
have
development
in
the
county.
62
homes
built
right
behind
our
school,
no
in
the
county,
so
nothing
we
could
do
we're.
Taking
those
we
add,
you
know
50,
more
50,
more
roofs
in
the
next
two
three
years.
AL
The
it
won't
be
I
mean
the
school
will
not
be
desirable
for
children
and
the
education
would
suffer.
You
know
with
adding
this
along
with
other
communities
in
our
neighborhoods.
So
that's
all
I
have
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
Thank
you.
C
J
C
Answered
it
for
myself
and
when
we
talk
about
these
kinds
of
plan,
amendments
and
and
services
and
so
on
service
areas,
we
we
talk
about
you
know
foreseeable
future
or
and
and
I
was
struck
by
a
particular
phrase
that
was
similar
to,
but
not
exactly
that
and
I
was
wondering
if
staff
could
Enlighten
us
on
the
issue
of
you
know
what.
C
What
would
be
the
range
of
that
foreseeable
future
I
mean
is?
Is
there
maybe
that's
a
question
that
answers
itself
foreseeables
foreseeable
I?
Guess
you
know,
are
we
talking
five
years
10
years
20
years
before?
We
would
think
that
this
area
could
possibly
be
ripe
for
development
or
or
are
the
conditions
in
the
area
such
that
it's
not
likely
ever
to
happen.
I'm
curious.
G
Well,
I'll
start
and
answer
that,
but
it
it
go
ahead
and
Dustin
I
think
you're,
probably
going
to
need
to
speak
to
it
as
well,
but
depending
on
the
type
of
facility
I
mean
generally
speaking,
it's
you
know
there
are
there.
There
are
no
plans
for,
for
example,
fire
stations.
There
have
been
no
discussions
about
it
in
part
because
you
know
development
is
so
far
away
or
in
the
case
of
utilities,
utilities
isn't
isn't
planning
on
any
active
capacity
improvements,
because
you
know
it's
it's.
You
know.
Development
is
so
far
away.
G
So
so.
C
What
I
mean
that's
great
perfect
so
because
developed
so
far
away
so
I
mean
are:
does
that
just
automatically
given
the
way
the
City
Works
the
way
it
identifies
and
prioritizes
and
funds
I
mean?
Are
we
just
you
know
bare
minimum
we're
talking
10
years
we're
talking
15
years,
we're
talking
20
years?
Can
you
I
mean?
Can
you
even
ballpark
that
for
me.
M
Well,
yeah.
G
In
fact,
when
we
did
plan
OKC,
we
you
know
we
did,
we
did
multiple
decades,
but
we
we
also
looked
at
kind
of
a
20-year
Horizon
and
even
a
10-year,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
have,
for
example,
in
the
Northwest
and
Southwest
areas
we
planned
for
some.
What
we
felt
was
a
generous
portion
of
of
growth
area
for
for
UL
for
urban
low.
Well,
it
turns
out
the
last
decade
we
had
record-breaking
growth
and
you
know
there.
There
really
was
no.
J
G
Could
have
predicted
that,
like
we
hadn't
seen
that
kind
of
growth
in
maybe
ever
at
least
the
decades
as
far
back
as
we
could
see
so
sometimes
things
happen,
and
you
know
most
people
would
say.
Well
that's
a
good
thing
and
we've
grown
so
fast,
but
some.
G
But
you
know
the
these
are
areas
were
designated
as
either
Urban.
Excuse
me
Urban,
future
or
agricultural
preserve,
because
it
was
at
least
a
decade
and
probably
much
more
where
we
felt
like
you
know
it's
going
to
be
getting
to
a
point
where
it's
going
to
be
either
urbanized
or
we'll
get
Services
close
by,
but
I
don't
know
Dustin,
maybe
I
know
you
guys
have
done
some
planning
long-range
planning
work
in
in
the
southwest
quadrant,
but
yeah.
AH
AH
You
know
we're
trying
to
do
a
master
plan
and
there
was
discussion
even
with
the
city
of
Uconn,
to
be
able
to
go
into
a
joint
share
and
you
know
be
able
to
build
a
new
Wastewater
Plant
somewhere
out
there
or
even
increase
the
city
of
yukon's
treatment
plant,
and
we
buy
capacity
from
them
because
we
realize
that
that
Basin
out
there
is
there's
this
no
infrastructure
out
there
and,
as
you
know,
as
a
city
policy,
is
that
the
utilities
doesn't
expand
the
system,
it's
the
responsibilities
of
the
developers
to
be
able
to
expand
the
system.
AH
So
the
only
way
that
sanitary,
serum
water
is
going
to
get
out.
There
is
through
the
development
of
of
the
land.
We
do
currently
have
a
12
inch
line
that
goes
up
there
and
one
of
the
reasons
why
this
up
there
is
because
the
city
of
El
Reno
purchases,
water
for
us,
and
so
that's
the
main
reason
for
that
line,
and
that
line
is
there
to
be
able
to
help
Supply
them
and
there's
some
businesses.
AH
AH
But
so
if
they
get,
if
they
get
water
from
the
Canadian
County
Water
Authority,
then
you
know
if
they
have
a
sufficient
capacity,
then
that's
fine
with
you
know
that
stuff,
and
so
with
us.
You
know
with
a
septic,
then
then
you're
looking
at
you
know,
three-quarter
acre
lots
if
it
was
owned,
R1
and
so
long
term,
I'm
20
years,
plus
that
I
see
the
system
expansion
getting
out
there.
AH
It
just
all
depends
on
on
the
the
rate
of
development
and
as
as
we
increase
it
and
as
the
developers
want
to
do
it,
that's
kind
of
why
we're
at
it.
If
you
have
a
lot
of
developers
want
to
purchase
land,
they
want
to
continue
to
expand
the
city
out
that
way,
then
the
system
will
get
there,
but
unfortunately
I
think
the
the
sewer
is
going
to
be
the
major
issue
out
there.
AH
Always
water
is
easy
because
you
can
it's
pressurized,
you
can
Pump
It
sewer
is
you
know,
that's
where
it's
harder
through
gravity
and
everything,
but
as
from
a
utility
standpoint?
That's
where
I
see
you
know
20
20,
30
years
out
in
the
future
that
that
will
be
developed,
but
eventually
it
will
because,
as
we
know,
it
we're
continuing
to
grow
and
as
the
system
continues
to
grow
and
purchase
land,
it
will
get
there.
So
so
you
know,
we've.
C
Talked
about
these
airings
before
that
that
have
you
know,
problematic
development
patterns
sort
of
built
into
them.
If
we,
the
the
leap,
frogging
of
services,
is
a
real
issue
and
and
is
a
real,
problematic
issue
in
terms
of
funding,
I
mean
that's
just
you're
you're,
creating
a
situation
and,
and
then
you
know
adding
on
to
it
bit
by
bit.
You
know
if
it
maybe
it's
just
a
personal
thing:
I
I
over
the
years
I
have
come
to
really
be
concerned
about
serving
properties
with
with
septic
and
Wells.
C
That
are,
you
know
increasingly
smaller
in
size,
and
not
only
does
it,
you
know,
have
impact
on
the
environment
in
a
variety
of
ways,
but
it
also
has
that
impact,
for
you
know
thoughtful
growth
and
sustainably
financially
reasonable
growth
of
the
city
and
the
services
that
it
provides.
This
is
this
is
not
an
easy
question.
Well,
maybe
it's
easier
than
I
think
it
is
I
I'm
having
a
hard
time
seeing
that
that
it's
appropriate
for
us
to
change
this.
Y
AH
Q
That
the
conference,
the
comprehensive
plan,
was
designed
finished
seven
years
ago
and
we're
talking
about
a
decade
we're
there.
This
is
two
and
two
miles
away
from
an
interchange
on
I-40.,
it's
three
miles
away
from
neighborhoods
already
established
it's
it's
really
not
that
far
out
three.
AH
One
of
the
things
that
the
utilities
are
having
our
biggest
challenge
is,
as
commissioner
Powers
is
right,
is
about
the
elite,
frogging
and
just
system
development
in
general.
Currently,
right
now
is
we're
trying
to
fight
and
trying
to
change
the
system,
development
charges
or
looking
at
it,
because
currently,
when
we
look
at
the
the
cost
of
rate
study,
our
system,
development
charges
to
be
able
to
connect
to
sewer
and
water
should
be
around
eight
thousand
dollars.
Currently
right
now
to
connect
to
a
sewer,
it's
a
thousand
dollars
in
100.
AH
This
is
eleven
hundred
dollars
per
home,
so
those
system
development
charges
are
there
to
be
able
to
increase
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
increase
that
12
inch
line
to
a
16
inch
line.
But
since
our
system,
development
charges
are
in
they're
so
low
and
not
compared
to
other
cities
that
it's
hard
for
us
to
do
that,
because
we
don't
have
the
finances
to
do
it.
AH
D
Think
another
part
of
this,
and-
and
you
hinted
at
it
with
bringing
up
the
septic
and
the
the
idea
of
the
whether
it's
an
appropriate,
what
an
appropriate
lot
size
is.
We
know
what
the
state
regulations
are,
and
we
are
having
a
study
session
about
that,
and
we
discussed
this
in
the
pre-meeting
that
that's
coming.
D
What
probably
needs
to
be
a
part
of
that
discussion,
regardless
of
how
we
vote
today
or
in
the
future,
is
we
need
to
address
sprawl
in
Oklahoma
City
and
how
aggressively
we,
as
this
commission,
are
going
to
be
enforcing
and
dealing
with
sprawl
as
a
problem,
and
the
leapfrogging
issue
is
part
of
it
and
I'm
sure.
That's
part
of
I'm
certain
that
that's
part
of
our
neighbors
objections
is
you
know
this
is
this
is
not.
C
C
Right
after
the
adoption
of
the
plan,
we
were
very
strong
about
employment,
reserve
and
agricultural
reserve,
and
you
know
we
we
enable
growth
here
and
we
even
direct
it.
We
have
a
tendency
to
let
the
market
control
where
it
goes,
but
even
that
is
directing
it
in
a
way.
It's
a
choice
that
we're
making
and
it's
a
choice
that
we
make
pretty
regularly
in
a
way.
That's
not
really
consistent
with
the
concept
of
the
plan,
which
was
very,
very,
very
much
driven
by
concerns
about
sprawl,
so
that.
AA
And
I
want
to
congratulate
each
of
you
on
your
endurance.
You've
already
surpassed
the
average
attention
span
of
an
orthopedic
surgeon.
My
name
is
Warren
Lowe
and
I'm,
an
orthopedic
surgeon
at
McBride,
Orthopedic
Hospital.
If
I
can
have
six
minutes
and
34
seconds
I'll
end
your
misery
I'm.
Also
a
representative
of
the
West
Yukon
neighbors
Association,
and
for
over
35
years
I've
lived
on
the
quarter
section
that
adjoins
Mr
pogue's
property.
My
address
is
508
North,
Cimarron
Road,
again,
first
and
foremost,
I'd
like
to
thank
each
member
of
the
commission
for
volunteering.
AA
Your
time
and
especially
your
patience
to
serve
the
residents
of
our
city.
We
applaud
you
for
your
faithfulness
and
the
sincerity
with
which
you
carry
out
your
charge.
I
hope
that
each
member
of
the
commission
received
the
booklet
that
we
prepared
to
delineate
the
reasons
why
we
oppose
Mr
pogue's,
rezoning
application
facilities
and
infrastructure
adversely
affected
by
Mr
pogue's.
Rezoning
application
would
include
Cimarron,
Road
and
10th
Street,
which
are
both
neglected,
two-lane,
unmarked
chip,
seal
Country
Roads
that
are
poorly
maintained
and
often
neglected
a
neighborhood
of
120
homes
with
two
vehicles.
AA
AA
Clarity
page
airport
on
simran
road
has
approximately
a
hundred
aircraft
based
at
its
facility,
including
small
jets,
with
over
25
000
aircraft
operations
per
year.
Last
month,
the
Beechcraft
Bonanza
crashed
at
the
airport
killing
three
individuals.
If
this
aircraft
had
landed
in
the
proposed
residential
neighborhood,
the
death
toll
and
destruction
could
have
been
devastating.
AA
Banner
school
is
the
available
K
through
8th
grade
facility
that
services
this
area.
It
is
already
under
pressure
from
the
260
pupils.
It
serves
adding
120
homes
with
an
average
of
two
children.
Each
would
almost
double
its
census
at
a
cost
of
ten
thousand
four
hundred.
Seventy
five
dollars
per
student,
which
is
the
average
per
pupil
spending
in
Oklahoma
in
2019-2020,
would
create
an
additional
cost
of
2.5
million
dollars
each
year,
as
well
as
the
cost
of
doubling
the
facility
and
the
number
of
teachers
building.
AA
Since
the
neighborhood
is
in
a
semi-rural
no
man's
land
on
the
far
side
of
Oklahoma
City,
we
have
very
poor
emergency
service
coverage.
There
is
no
consistent
police
presence
other
than
for
the
occasional
Canadian
County
sheriff,
and
the
nearest
Oklahoma
City
fire
station
number
33
is
approximately
10
miles
away.
AA
The
land
in
question
is
currently
zoned.
Aaa
agricultural
preservation,
zoning
regulations,
State
the
AAA
District,
creates
and
preserves
areas
intended
primarily
for
agricultural
purposes.
It
permits
low
intensity
development,
along
with
certain
essential
commercial
and
institutional
uses.
As
stated,
the
current
zoning
regulations
are
designed
to
quote,
encourage
and
protect
agricultural
uses
on
a
permanent
basis,
or
until
such
time
as
urbanization
takes
place.
AA
There
are
no
retail
or
Urban
facilities
within
miles
of
this
property,
the
nearest
homes
not
on
five
acres
or
three
to
four
miles
away,
which
I
clocked
this
past
weekend
and
I
think
those
neighborhoods
have
been
referred
to
rezoning
this
land
to
one
acre.
Lots
would
not
accommodate
urbanization
that
had
naturally
evolved,
but
would
artificially
create
urbanization
by
arbitrary
decree.
AA
AA
One
of
our
primary
concerns,
however,
is
Mr.
Pogue's
lack
of
credibility
in
observing
local
zoning
regulations
and
applicable
laws
on
July
the
19th
2016,
the
Oklahoma
City
Council
passed
a
resolution
directing
the
City
attorney
Kenneth
Jordan
to
file
an
injunction
in
District
Court
chairman
to
enjoin
Poe
gland
Investments
LLC
from
operating
an
illegal
mining
operation
on
this
property.
Hang.
AA
It
this
is
the
Oklahoma
City
Council
passed
a
resolution
instructing
Mr
Jordan
to
file
to
file
in
District
Court
to
join
Pogue
land
Investments
LLC
from
operating
in
an
illegal
mining
operation
on
this
property.
Under
this
pressure,
Mr
Pogue
agreed
to
immediately
see
strip
mining
and
selling
the
dirt
in
the
Oklahoma.
City
Council
passed
the
resolution
with
an
amendment
not
to
seek
the
injection
injunction
unless
Mr
Pope
resumed
Mining
and
also
gave
him
five
days
to
restore
the
damage
to
the
land.
It
has
been
seven
years.
D
AA
AA
You
can
nickname
me
Mr,
Washington
or
okay.
The
above
is
a
small
capsule
of
some
of
the
reasons
why
we
oppose
Mr
pogue's
rezoning
application.
If
Mr
Pope
were
content
with
building
homes
on
five
acre
lots,
as
other
developers
are
doing,
that
would
give
him
24
homes
to
build,
which
is
a
significant
number.
This
would
provide
for
growth
and
development
of
the
area
and
the
West
Yukon
neighbors
would
sincerely
welcome
Mr
Pogue
and
his
development
to
our
neighborhood.
D
AM
AM
I
feel
and
I
also
want
to
say
that
he
brought
up
that
Oklahoma
City
does
Supply
him
with
water,
so
if
I
were
to
buy
a
five
acre
tract
from
Mr,
Pogue
and
I
wanted
the
city
to
bring
the
water
another
few
hundred
yards,
and
you
guys
were
to
deny
that.
Is
that
discriminatory
because
he's
saying
that
it's
there,
but
it's
just
not
that
great.
So
that
was
a
point
that
was
brought
up
and
then
I
see
where
you
guys
have
said
you.
You
intend
to
bring
Services
there,
just
not
yet
so.
AM
I
guess
where
I,
where
I'm
sick,
where
I'm
coming
from,
is
how,
when
you
guys
Annex
that
land,
how
could
you
expect
people
to
live
there
without
servicing
them
and
I
do
believe
that
the
comprehensive
plan
was
set
after
he
purchased
it?
So
it
I
heard
one
of
the
other
neighbors
bring
up
the
fact
that
the
airplane
crashed
at
CE
page
airport.
My
family
is
also
Pilots.
AM
We
understand
that
things
like
this
do
happen,
but
if
it
were
a
risk
to
have
a
house
next
to
an
airport,
there
would
Wiley
Post
and
Will
Rogers
World
Airport
wouldn't
be
completely
surrounded
with
residential
housing.
So
I
I
feel,
as
some
of
the
arguments
that
were
brought
up
here,
are
purely
for
the
fact
that
they
don't
they
have
a
Vengeance
against
Mr
Pogue,
not
potentially
anybody
that
wants
to
come
in
and
build
a
house
on
a
five
acre
tract.
AM
D
D
Y
Y
Mr
chairman
I,
moved
to
recommend
denial
of
CPA.
D
Motion
for
the
commission
is
to
recommend
denial
of
recommending.
Oh
excuse
me
denying
the
application
for
the
composition
amendment
to
be
clear.
A
vote
Yes.
Is
there
a
second?
Yes,
a
vote.
Yes
is
to
deny
so
let's
that
is
always
confusing,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
If
you
are
voting.
Yes,
you
are.
Essentially,
you
are
opposed
to
the
comp
plan.
Change.
D
D
Privet
yay
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
Goldeen
yay,
commissioner,
no
nay,
commissioner,
on
the
forge
yay
I,
also
vote
Yes.
The
comp
plan
amendment
is
denied.
We
are
now
in
line
for
item
32.
I
I'm
gonna
avoid
wasting
everybody's
time
and
again
we'd
like
the
continuance
but
I
just
submitted
to
the
commission.
D
The
comp
plan
amendment's
been
denied,
so
the
question
before
us
is:
do
we
continue
this
item
and
allow
further
conversations
about
the
rezoning
and
further
negotiations
it
would
it
would
obviously
any
changes
would
be
contrary
to
the
comp
plan
itself.
So
that's
important
for
us
to
consider
thoughts
on
that
before
we
move
forward.
C
You
know,
I
think
that
the
appropriate
motion
at
this
point
is
to
deny
and
we'll
see
how
that
plays
out.
So
I
would
move
to
deny
item
number
32,
pc10858.
H
H
D
A
C
D
D
Well,
we
I
shouldn't
say
we
always
do
it.
We
often
do
that
I.
Think
the
city
council
is
not
quite
as
and
I
mean
this
in
the
kindest
way
possible,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
open
to
to
voting
differently
than
us.
Was
that
well
said,
yeah.
D
D
The
motion
before
the
commission
is
to
deny
is
to
recommend
denial
of
PC
10858.
It's
been
seconded
by
commissioner
govine,
commissioner
Claire
yay
commissioner
powers,
commissioner
privet
commissioner
Hinkle
commissioner
govine
yay,
commissioner
Noble
yay
commissioner,
commissioner
laforge
yes,
I
also
vote
Yes.
The
recommendation
is
that
we
deny
P,
we
recommend
denial
of
PC
10858
to
the
city
council.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
problem
David.
D
We
are
now
in
line
for
I
well.
Item
33
has
been
continued.
D
We're
now
in
line
for
communications
and
reports,
Planning
Commission
committees-
do
committee.
Have
any
reports
in
this
late
hour,
I,
don't
believe
so.
Commission
Planning
Commission
members,
commissioner
Claire
nothing
for
me,
commissioner.
Powers.
C
I
think
I
think
we're
going
to
find
her
to
be
enormously
good
at
her
job
I'm.
Guessing
she
always
has
been
always
will
be
she's.
You
know
always
and
all
the
time
that
I've
been
working
with
her
she's
always
been
very
focused
on
sort
of
getting
to.
Yes,
you
know
she's
always
willing
to
go
that
little
extra
mile
to
get
things
done.
She's.
She
clearly
cares
passionately
about
what
she's
doing
and
I
think
we're
lucky
to
have
her.
M
I
D
Me,
commission
Noble
nothing,
commission,
nothing
I
also
want
to
Second
our
congratulations
to
Sarah
I,
also
because
Sarah
you're
awesome,
we're
excited
for
you
and
I
know
it
was
a
long
meeting.
So
I
appreciate
your
patience.
I
wanted
us
to
talk
about
study
sessions.
I'll
just
ask
that
Jeff.
Maybe
if
you
could
send
an
email
to
us
with
maybe
a
outline
of
this
potential
study
sessions,
and
then
we
can
hear
about
that
and
maybe
weigh
in
that
way.
D
We
are
not
meeting
again
in
January
for
the
rest
of
January,
we'll
see
each
other
again
in
February,
but
again
appreciative
of
your
patience
as
we
try
to
work
through
some
of
these
delicate
issues
all
day.
Okay
planning,
department.
G
Again,
congratulations.
Sarah,
I
couldn't
have
said
it
better
than
you
all
did
already
I'm
excited
for
her
and
to
work
with
her.
We've
got
a
lot
of
good
things
coming
for
the
city
and
for
you
all,
the
other
thing
just
wanted
to
mention
training
is
coming
up
in
March.
G
Well,
we
should
be
getting
a
the
usual
for
those
of
you
who
are
who
are
new
to
the
commission.
We
typically
do
in
the
first
quarter
of
the
year,
a
training
which,
for
the
new
people
is,
is
obviously
the
first
time
and
and
we
are
able
to
go
into
a
little
more
depth
than
we
did
in
the
the
trainings
that
we've
already
done
and
then
for
people
who
have
been
on
the
commission
a
while
it's
a
good
refresher.
G
Hopefully
it's
a
good
refresher,
and
if
you
have
comments,
please
send
them
my
way.
We're
always
looking
for
ways
to
improve.
So
that's
all
I
have.
AL
D
Any
other
citizens
to
be
heard
other
business,
seeing
as
we've
reached
the
end
of
our
agenda.
We
are
now
adjourned.