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Description
The regular monthly meeting of the Oklahoma City Downtown Design Review Committee, via video conference, for July 16, 2020.
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Welcome
to
the
July
16th
2020
meeting
of
the
downtown
Design
Review
Committee.
This
meeting
is
being
held
by
videoconference.
My
name
is
Tony
Blatt
and
I'm.
The
chair
of
the
committee.
No
physical
location
will
be
provided
for
this
TV
our
city
meeting.
The
meeting
will
instead
be
live
streamed
from
remote
locations.
We
want
to
request
that
everyone
joining
us
today,
except
committee
members,
keep
your
microphone
muted
until
you
are
called
on
to
speak.
It's
instructed
in
the
agenda
those
who
are
called,
who
called
or
emailed
us
in
advance
to
let
us
know
your
name.
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Contact
number
and
agenda
item
you
wish
to
speak
about
will
be
recognized
first
before
the
DRC
votes
on
each
item.
I
will
ask
if
any
members
of
the
public
wish
to
speak
any
one
speaking
speaking
will
be
given
three
minutes
to
speak.
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are
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I
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unmute
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six
and
then
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or
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You
will
hover
your
cursor
over
the
microphone
icon
to
remove
the
diagonal
red
line
for
anyone.
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Speaking
today,
including
committee
members,
please
identify
yourself
when
you
begin
to
speak.
If
we
lose
our
connection
for
this
meeting,
the
meeting
shall
be
stopped
and
reconvened
once
the
connection
is
restored.
If
communications
are
unable
to
be
restored
within
30
minutes,
items
remaining
for
consideration
will
be
continued
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
downtown
design
review
committee
meeting
on
Thursday
August
20th
2020
at
9:30
a.m.
by
videoconference.
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D
G
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I
Sundberg
associate
planner
with
the
current
pioneer
design
division.
This
item
is
for
a
consideration
of
the
installation
of
a
new
emergency
generator,
along
with
Hanson
landscaping
at
the
base
of
the
required
screen
wall
and
the
construction
of
like
kind
of
a
two
piece.
14-Foot
tall
screen
wall,
the
frontal
portion
that
faces
North,
West,
11th
Street
is
built
with
metal
and
the
rear
portion
that
abuts
the
building
is
built
with
CMU
and
a
stucco
coat
of
plaster
on
the
outside.
I
This
is
a
basically
a
revisiting
of
the
same
issue
that
we
faced
about
a
year
ago,
a
meeting
on
July
25th
in
2019,
where
they
had
requested
the
same
basic
set
of
improvements
in
terms
of
the
installation
of
the
generator
and
the
three
wall.
However,
at
that
time
they
had
requested
a
12-foot
screen
wall
and
it
turned
out
that
the
generator
installing
at
that
time
was
about
9
foot
10th,
and
the
committee
recommended
approval
of
that
variance.
I
Since
that
time,
the
applicant
has
come
to
the
conclusion
that
they
need
a
larger
unit,
a
larger
emergency
generator
unit.
This
is
basically
in
part
due
to
the
fact
that
they
are
removing
an
existing
generator
in
a
penthouse
part
of
the
building
that
was
to
work
in
parallel
with
the
generator
that
had
been
proposed
last
year
and
due
to
the
age
of
that
existing
generator
they've
decided
to
remove
that
and
just
provide
one
generator
that
will
provide
all
the
powers
it's
necessary
for
emergency
services
there
at
the
hospital
when
the
power
goes
out.
I
13
plus
10
now
and
that's
about
four
feet
taller
than
the
the
nine
foot
and
just
the
backtrack
a
little
bit,
because
the
variance
that
was
granted
by
the
board
last
year
was
specific
to
the
10
foot
height
that
was
being
allowed
for
the
height
of
that
screen
wall.
They
need
to
come
back
and
obtain
a
new
variance
to
replace
the
10
foot
limit
with
a
new
14
foot
limit,
and
that's
why,
in
large
part,
this
item
is
back
before
the
committee
today.
I
Our
analysis
and
the
staff
report
is
very
much
along
the
same
lines
that
we
use
to
analyze
the
initial
screen
wall
request.
Last
year
we
came
to
the
conclusion,
in
conjunction
with
the
discussions
with
the
applicant,
that
there
really
isn't
anyplace
else
on
the
site
to
site
a
emergency
generator
of
this
size,
rather
than
on
a
part
of
the
site
that
fronts
a
street
and
consequently,
because
of
that
they
do
need
to
screen
it.
And
accordingly,
the
screen
wall
does
need
to
be
of
sufficient
size
to
actually
conduct
the
screening.
I
So
with
the
given
location
of
the
proposed
generator
and
the
given
size
other
proposed
generator.
The
14-foot
height
is
basically
necessary
to
satisfy
the
screening
requirements.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
this
generator
has
an
80,
200
gallon
fuel
storage
component
associated
with
it
integrated
into
the
unit
that
use
qualifies
as
a
above-ground,
flammable,
liquid
storage,
restricted
and
in
terms
of
the
size
of
the
pane
accordingly
per
the
DTD
1
news
regulations
is
if
it's
allowed,
but
it's
allowed
only
by
a
special
exception
to
be
heard
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment.
I
I
In
conclusion,
oh
one
was
one
of
the
point
on
because
this
wall
is
so
much
taller
or
foot
taller
than
the
previous
iteration
of
this
screen
wall
and
because
it's
in
close
proximity
to
the
streetscape
and
the
sidewalk
pedestrian
pathway
along
the
North
West
11th
Street.
We
worked
hand
in
hand
with
the
applicant
to
get
some
beefier
landscaping
at
the
base
of
the
screen
wall
that
faces
a
sidewalk
and
11th
North,
West
11th
Street
as
a
means
to
help
soften
and
perhaps
help
minimize.
I
The
size
of
the
wall,
and
they
were
very
cooperative
in
working
with
us
on
that
aspect
of
the
project
and
as
a
result
of
their
plans,
do
reflect
that
additional
landscaping.
In
conclusion,
our
recommending
approval
of
the
project
and
recommending
also
that
the
committee
provide
a
recommendation
to
the
board
of
request
for
the
height
variance
on
the
screen
wall.
That
completes
our
presentation.
We're
prepared
to
respond
to
any
questions
that
committee
may
have
does.
G
D
The
second
question
relates
to
the
color
of
the
metal
panel
and
looks
to
be
selected
and
then
in
the
packet
I
believe
Tundra
is
identified
as
the
finnish
color,
and
it
looks
in
the
on
the
cut
sheet
for
the
colors.
That
tundra
is
somewhat
of
a
cool
gray
in
the
the
building
itself
seems
to
be
a
collage
of
warmer
tones,
and
so
I
was
wondering
what
what
the
thought
process
was
on.
Selecting
that
Tundra
color
versus
one
of
the
warmer,
maybe
Browns.
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D
Okay,
but
given
the
the
scale
of
the
of
the
enclosure,
it
feels
more
like
a
building
element,
then
necessarily
a
fence
or
a
screen.
That's
outside
of
a
building.
Certainly
the
elevation
on
a
301
that
North
elevation
you
can.
You
can
see
how,
with
that
14
foot
height,
it
really
aligns
with
the
rest
of
the
building.
It
becomes
a
building
element,
so
I
would
I
would
be
in
favor
of
a
warmer
tone
that
that
better
fits
within
the
palette
of
the
existing
building.
D
B
B
B
Think
that
that
needs
to
at
least
be
noted
that
a
containment
Basin
if
it
needs
to
be
installed,
then
visually.
It
needs
to
tie
in
with
what
is
being
presented
this
morning.
So
I
think
if
there's
any
kind
of
the
requirement
for
a
containment
Basin
that
it
should
at
least
come
back
before
staff
for
review
before
moving
forward.
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J
The
ERC
one
of
the
colors
that
we
would
have
selected
would
have
either
been
the
almond
of
the
bone
white.
The
other
question
that
you
had
concerning
the
storage
tank,
the
fuel
storage
tank
for
the
generator
design
that
take
itself
is
double
line,
and
it
contains
a
double
bladder
in
it
for
the
purpose
of
leakage,
and
it
has
leak,
detecting
availability
with
that
design.
That's.
D
D
This
is
Corey
Bates
I
move
that
we
approve
the
application
on
the
basis
that
the
project
complies
with
the
regulations
and
guidelines
of
the
downtown
design.
District
zoning
ordinance
as
referenced
in
Section,
C
and
V
of
the
staff
report
will
be
following
two
conditions.
A
applicant
shall
obtain
a
variance
from
the
Board
of
Adjustment
for
the
maximum
offense
type
requirements
can
be
the
color
almond
be
used
for
the
panel
finish.
B
G
You
first
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
we
sent
some
additional
information
to
the
committee
earlier
in
the
week
that
went
with
this
item,
which
included
two
renderings
and
some
percentages
that
I'll
get
to
here
in
a
minute
about
the
material
photos
for
cladding.
This
is
located
at
the
I'm.
Sorry,
the
southeast
quadrant
of
Northwest,
fourth
and
North
Shore
tell
as
you're
looking
at
some
pictures
of
that
area.
Right
now
in
the
surrounding
development.
G
Well,
there
were
there
were
several
one
dealt
with
the
fact
that
they're
proposing
to
be
set
back
more
than
10
feet
from
part
of
the
street
right-of-way
on
North
Shore
tell
the
issue
that
they
have
is.
There
is
some
existing
utilities
that
are
located
in
utility
easement.
There
are
several
that
are
located
within
this
easement
and
it
would
be
extremely
costly
to
relocate
if,
in
fact,
it
is
possible
to
relocate
the
utilities
that
are
within
that
easement.
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G
And
the
parking
structure
is
suppose
is
proposed
to
be
constructed
of
cast
in
place
concrete
and
the
guidelines
and
regulations
have
cast
in
place.
Concrete
is
allowed,
but
it
needs
to
have
a
finished
surface,
so
staffs
opinion
was,
since
it
is
going
to
be
located
within
the
building
that
there
was
no
need
to
provide
that
finish
surface
on
the
cast-in-place
concrete.
G
G
The
guidelines
are
specific
about
what
is
allowed
and
there
are.
There
are
some
specifics
on
certain
material
on
maximums,
however,
for
cementitious
siting,
it
only
addresses
it
for
non-residential
uses
and
for
single
and
to
family
residential
uses.
It
doesn't
really
address
it
for
multifamily
it
does
reference.
Additional
cladding
and
exit
materials
can
be
allowed
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
and
that's
essentially
what
we're
talking
about
here.
G
So
we've
had
several
other
buildings
in
the
past
that
have
had
cementitious
sighting
various
styles.
Various
percentages
of
the
exterior
of
those
buildings
such
as
West
Village,
the
lifts
are
I,
know
there's
several
more
that
are
in
the
downtown
area.
The
applicant
is
indicated
that
the
exterior
supposed
to
be
69
percent
cementitious
hearty
products,
30
percent,
glass
and
1%
brick
on
this
rendering
that's
on
right
here
and
you
can
leave
it
right
here
for
a
bit
Cameron.
G
G
G
I
think
that
building
immediately
to
the
south
is
where
the
communications,
the
911
communications,
is
and
I
believe
there
is
all
kinds
of
utilities
running
to
that.
Building
for
their
use
and
I
can
imagine,
it
would
be
extremely
costly
to
try
and
relocate
those
and
finding
a
place
to
relocate
those
two.
G
So
staff
also
wanted
to
bring
up
that
yesterday.
Some
items
came
up
and
reported
out
by
the
Public
Works
Department
and
I
discussed
this
with
the
architect
and
the
engineer
on
the
product.
The
issues
that
Public
Works
is
concerned
about
are
something
that
this
project
was
going
to
be
addressing
anyway,
which
deals
with
set
in
parking
spaces.
G
So
that
is
not
in
contrast
or
contradicting
anything
that
was
being
recommended
by
staff.
So,
with
that
in
mind,
we
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
a
couple
of
conditions,
one
that
the
applicant
obtained,
a
variance
from
the
Board
of
Adjustment
from
the
regulation
requiring
the
first
two
floors
to
be
added
within
10
feet
of
the
street
right
away.
G
Second,
condition
that
staff
is
adding,
which
is
the
applicant
she'll,
get
approval
from
the
Public
Works
Department
for
the
inset
parking
spaces,
the
ABA
design
at
the
corner
and
the
sight
triangle
encroachment.
Then
there
is
a
another
recommendation
that
needs
to
come
from
the
committee
if
you
support
the
variance
on
the
setback,
and
that
would
be
providing
a
recommendation
of
approval
to
the
board
of
adjustment
for
that
variance
for
exceeding
that
the
template,
maximum
setback
and
I'm.
Here.
G
D
L
I
think
there's
a
couple
variables
one.
You
know
we
have
a
big
building
I'm
here.
You
know
roughly
320
feet
square,
it's
all
residential.
There
is
no
true
commercial
to
either
live
works
or
apartments,
so
we
wanted
to
really
want
a
pedestrian
oriented
material,
but
we
also
want
to
play
with
some
textures
around
the
building
and
then
also
assist
in
the
install
of
all
those
materials.
So
we
really
wanted
to
give
a
focus
to
the
lid
works
on
the
corner
with
the
masonry,
and
then
we
have
the
shingle
that
you
see.
L
Basically,
if
it's,
if
it's
a
black
in
color,
it's
the
textured
shingle,
so
you
get
a
nice
little
Sheen
in
texture
as
you
drive
by
or
walk
by,
and
then
it
shifts
to
the
siding
on
the
white.
And
then
we
have
a
little
bit
of
the
hardy
smooth
around
the
windows
to
give
appearance
of
a
little
bit
larger
openings
and
different
proportions
throughout
the
facades.
L
You'll
notice
that
the
window
pattern
changes
on
different
parts
of
the
facade
and
so
we're
really
trying
to
play
with
textures
and
patterns
and
proportions
on
this
project
over
material
for
multiple
reasons.
We're
five
storeys
you
get
into
so
you
know
multiple
challenges
when
you're
trying
to
break
up
that
much
five
storeys
and
then
you
know
you
know
it
also
helps
with
long
term
installation
over
the
project
construction
life
and
that
we
can
have
less
scaffolding
around
the
building,
which
is
right
on
two
active
streets.
L
Our
building
is
relatively
close
to
the
curb
already
with
setback
in
the
property
line,
and
so
we
have
some.
You
know
we
didn't
want
to
have
to
close
lanes
for
safety
and
things
for
for
those
things
as
well
and
obviously
there's
a
budget
conversation
always
on
these
projects
of
this
scale
and
of
this
intent
of
type
of
housing
that
we're
doing
here
and-
and
so
those
are
all
the
elements
that
went
into
making
these
decisions
on
this
project
specifically.
B
So
I've
got
a
question.
This
is
Tony
blind,
I
have
a
question
in
regards
to
the
painted
materials
they're
gonna
be
used
for
the
cementitious
siding
I
didn't
see.
Specifically,
I
saw
that
it's
painted
when
you
get
into
blacks,
they've
got
a
tin.
A
tendency
to
chalk
out
over
time
is.
Is
there?
Can
you
give
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
the
performance
level
of
the
paint's
that
you're
planning
on
using
for
this?
Since
the
majority
of
this
building
is
a
painted
and
therefore
maintenanced,
surface
we're.
L
L
As
you
know,
in
black
than
it
is
to
be
a
white
or
a
more
neutral
and
then,
and
in
our
in
our
past
projects
that
we've
done
paint,
we've
done
some
some
high-end
exterior,
we've
done
some
latex
paints
and
some
other
acrylics
on
this
product
that
I
do
really
well,
since
the
product
is
pre-primed,
it's
not
a
raw
material,
and
so
it
takes
really
well.
It
has
about
a
you
know.
We
have
projects
that
are
going
on
about
10
years
that
have
not
been
repainted
yet
so.
L
We've
had
great
success
here
in
Oklahoma
in
the
blacks
and
the
whites,
and
so
you
know
we
haven't
specified
that
paint
yet
as
to
which
one
we
want
to
use,
as
we
are
looking
in
into
the
darker
tones
of
the
black
on
the
cedar
shape.
But
we
really
don't
have
any
concerns
about
the
painted
surfaces
on
maintenance
in
the
talking
at
least,
we
haven't
had
any
problems
in
the
past
on
that
product.
So.
D
So
this
is
Corey
Bates
I,
don't
have
any
more
questions,
but
I
do
want
to
talk
about
a
project
and
talk
about
the
materials.
Certainly
among
the
committee
I'd
like
to
know
how
everyone
else
feels
as
well.
For
me
I
very
much
appreciate
the
deployment
that's
being
shown
with
regard
to
massing
and
varying
color
variant,
texture,
the
details
around
the
windows
and
they
very
aware
of
budget
considerations
as
well,
but
I
do
have
strong
concerns
with
the
amount
of
fiber
cement
board
being
presented
here.
D
The
guidelines,
as
Laura
mentioned,
don't
specifically
address
multi-family
residential,
but
there's
a
couple
things.
I
do
want
to
point
out
when
the
guidelines
to
talk
about
percentage
of
materials,
they
do
talk
about
it
in
terms
excluding
windows
and
doors.
So
we
received
percentages
on
the
materials
on
this
building,
but
if
we
were
to
exclude
the
windows
as
the
guidelines
typically
do
we
are
at
this
project.
Is
that
99%
fiber
cement
board
and
1%
brick,
which
I
feel
is
more
than
the
intent
of
the
guidelines,
are
looking
for?
D
D
F
D
D
It
shows,
and
so
ground
level
you,
the
pedestrian
experience
is
interacting
directly
with
that
with
that
product
and
then
over
time,
as
Tony
mentioned,
this
is
a
painted
product
that
will
require
maintenance
and
having
a
painted
product
at
the
ground
level,
will
it
will
endure
more
wear
and
tear
than
in
the
upper
levels
and
can
be
a
maintenance
issue
over
time?
I
also
have
concern
about
setting
a
precedent
to
accept
a
building
that
is
nearly
100
percent.
D
Fiber
cement
board
I
think
the
guidelines
again.
They
don't
specifically
address
multi-family
residential,
but
what
they
do
address
is
there's
nowhere
in
terms
of
you
know,
99%
under
cement
board.
So
you
know
the
way
I
read
the
guidelines
and
interpret
the
intent.
I
think
this
amount
of
this
material
exceeds
that
and
I
would
I
would
prefer,
but
where
I
would
suggest
that
the
ground-floor
low
OB
reexamine
wall
I.
B
Agree
with
your
comments
and
specifically
was
going
to
make
the
the
bringing
up
the
item
of
setting
precedent
specifically
because,
whenever
I
look
at
these
drawings
and
renderings
I
immediately
noticed
that
they
are
well
detailed.
Well-Designed
everything
feels
really
good
on
this
project.
It
makes
me
want
to
just
immediately
approve
it,
but
I
also
realized
that
that
would
give
an
individual
who
is
not
giving
the
same
care
to
a
project
to
come
forward
and
in
a
less
sensitive
manner,
present
the
same
materials
at
the
ground
floor
level,
and
then
we
would
be.
L
B
And
turning
around
and
saying,
no
specifically
because
of
an
aesthetic
item
so
from
from
a
standpoint
of
performance
and
precedence
at
the
ground
floor
level,
I
do
think
I,
don't
think
it
has
to
necessarily
go
to
brick,
but
I
do
think
a
material
that
is
more
consistent
with
the
guidelines
and
one
that
is
less
maintenance.
One
that
would
be
able
to
stand
up
to
precedence
would
be
more
appropriate.
B
C
Is
Julie
Kregel
I'm
gonna?
Ask
you,
architects
on
the
committee
a
question
the
fact
that
they
haven't
determined
yet
exactly
what
material
they're
going
to
be
using
if
I'm,
if
I'm,
correct
Zac
on
that
does
that
is
that
cause
for
concern
and
all
or
are
you
comfortable,
I
hear
you
saying
tell
me
that
you're
comfortable
with
the
detail
they're
putting
into
this
so
I'm
just
wondering
do
we
have
do
we
have
enough
information
today
to
even
take
a
vote.
B
C
D
D
C
L
L
You
know
due
to
our
site
being
a
wedge.
We
have
some
areas
where
we
can
create
buffers
between
at
least
people
and
then
facade,
and
then
we
won't
have
any
major
irrigation
those
at
all
constrict
systems,
so
we
wouldn't
be
having
a
lot
of
water
other
than
rain
water.
Degrading
that
finish
closer
to
grade
and
then
our
standard
is
it's
never
within
six
inches
of
grade
anyway,
we'll
still
have
our
foundation
and
foundation
edges
to
help
us
protect
that
first
layer
or
to
obviously
cementitious
siding,
is
not
susceptible
to
water
damage.
L
Even
if
it's
left
exposed
for
extended
amounts
of
time.
It
is
a
cementitious
base
product,
as
you
guys
know.
So
we
did
take
a
lot
of
consideration.
End
of
all
that
you
know,
we
also
have
storefront
knocking.
Excuse
me
aluminum
and
hollow
metal
entrances
to
the
apartments
on
the
first
floor,
to
try
to
offset
some
of
this
some
of
the
concern
about
getting
beat
up
around
these
entrances
as
well
as
sidewalks,
and
then
we
will.
L
This
rendering
is
very
basic
in
its
landscape
presentation,
but
we'll
have
much
more
extensive
landscaping
on
the
north
and
the
west
after
we
are
able
to
finalize
the
PD
plan
with
civil
in
a
city,
so
we
know
where
we
can
and
cannot
put
trees
and
and
although
and
and
also
just
landscaping
up
against
the
building
there.
Where
we
step
back
on
the
west
and
then
the
North
has
some
opportunity
for
additional
layerings
of
landscaping.
As
you
make
your
way
across
the
the
North
facade.
D
D
There
are
steps
and
sort
of
porches
that
allow
you
to
enter
the
the
the
on
grade
units
at
the
southwest
corner
and
I
believe
those
are
noted
to
be
finished
as
Corten
steel
and
I'm
wondering
or
hoping
that
you
could
describe
what
what
is
plan
to
manage
the
rainwater
runoff
on
those
panels.
Corten
steel
by
nature
will
rust
over
time.
That's
how
it
protects.
Itself
becomes
a
durable
material,
but
rainwater
will
streak
down
the
panel
and
pull
some
of
that
rust
onto
landscaping,
sidewalks,
porches,
etc.
L
And
that
court
in
only
shows
up
as
a
guardrail
for
the
patio
it's
not
actually
on
the
building,
and
then
we
would
have
a
small
gravel
strip
below
it.
That
would
manage
that,
so
it
wouldn't
run
onto
the
sidewalk
and
stain
the
sidewalk.
And
then
you
know
we
may
or
may
not
have
some
landscaping
below
that
we're
really
tight
in
that
area,
but
we
would
definitely
be
having
a
management
system
of
a
decorative
gravel
that
would
capture
any
runoff
off
of
those
panels.
D
K
Thank
you.
This
is
Elise
Kilpatrick
I
own,
the
two
buildings
in
the
large
lot
directly
across
the
street
on
Dean
McGee
from
Sartell
and
I'm
really
excited
about
this
project.
But
my
concern
is
because
my
buildings
has
sit
pretty
low
between
Francis
and
Sharpeville.
Those
two
giant
rains
we've
had
over
the
past
six
years
prior
to
opening
the
storms,
who
are
greats
a
little
wider
on
4th
Street.
Both
these
buildings
have
flooded,
and
so
that's
a
pretty
big
piece
of
ground
over
there
and
I.
K
B
B
M
M
And
she's
spot
on
the
signal
committee
did
in
downtown
drainage
study
a
few
years
back
and
forth,
and
shark
tail
was
in
a
hole
and
without
a
lot
of
relief
and
I
know,
the
flea
has
flooded.
The
bank
quit
building
has
flooded
and,
as
she
mentioned,
her
chart
L
and
DNA
mcgee
wrestles
with
flooding
as
well.
M
F
Jones
I,
don't
have
any
question
well,
I!
Guess
it
is
a
question.
I
appreciate
what
you
and
Cory
have
talked
about
it
as
far
as
the
precedents
that
we
would
set
with
the
fiber
cement
panels.
I
also
appreciate
the
effort
that
zach
eluded
that
they're
attempting
to
do
in
order
to
minimize
our
to
ensure
that
some
of
the
concerns
with
the
fiber
cement
panels
don't
come
to
realization
but
I
guess.
D
G
D
You
know,
I
I
would
I
would
like
to
see
as
a
minimal
effort
the
ground
floor
being
revisited.
That's
my
my
my
personal
stance,
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe!
I
can
approve
this,
as
is
today,
given
the
amount
of
fiber
cement
panel.
That's
on
there
and
it
it
I
strongly
reiterated
Tony's
point
that
this
building
has
been
treated
very
well
and
the
product
has
been
used
and
deployed
nicely,
but
that's
not
always
going
to
be
the
case,
and
and
it's
it's,
it's
not
a
trap
way.
C
This
is
Julie
Kringle,
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
again,
not
being
an
architect
I,
go
to
you
guys
all
the
time
for
your
expertise
on
these
matters,
but
you
like
the
basic
design
so
far
as
the
the
windows
and
you're
I
mean
you're
comfortable
with
the
design
correct.
It's
really
about
the
balance
of
materials
use.
Is
that
correct.
D
This
is
Cory
basis,
it's
about
the
amount
of
fiber
cement
panel
and
so
the
guidelines
they
they
don't.
They
don't
address
multi-family,
but
they
do
address
other
abuses.
You
know,
and
so
the
guideline
says
for
non-residential
uses
composite
materials
such
as
fiber
cement
panels
may
be
allowed,
but
should
be
limited
to
30%
of
the
total
of
posterior
building
materials
of
any
facade,
not
including
the
windows
and
doors,
and
so
we
don't
have
multi-family
specifically
addressed
in
the
guidelines
on
another
use.
C
D
To
allow
it
to
be
quite
honest,
you
know
if,
in
in
other
uses
that
guidelines
restricts
it
to
30%,
not
including
from
windows
and
multi-family
is
not
specifically
addressed.
My
interpretation
is
that
it
would
be
something
similar.
You
know
similar,
obviously
could
be
subjective,
but
the
difference
between
30%
and
99%
is
not
similar.
Yeah.
L
L
You
know,
maybe
it's
a
black
brick
on
the
first
floor
in
conjunction
with
the
red
brick
and
then,
where
the
building
stepped
back
away
from
the
public,
the
public
realm,
where
we
have
much
more
buff
for
landscaping,
patios
it
could.
It
could
stay
assigning
essentially
where
it's
white
in
this
diagram
and
then
but
you
know
where
people
are
running
their
hands
along
the
building.
It's
a
masonry
product
from
a
break
so.
D
This
is
Corey
Bates.
To
answer
your
question:
yes,
the
north
and
the
West
are
the
priority
facades
out
of
the
core.
In
my
opinion
and
I
did.
The
proximity
of
the
north
to
the
sidewalk
is,
is
probably
the
the
highest
priority
since
the
northwest
corner
has
already
been
proposed,
with
brick
and
to
the
southwest
corner.
D
L
C
B
I
do
yes,
I
did
I
believe
that
the
numbers
would
need
to
be
presented
to
be
able
to
feel
comfortable
about
the
facts
again
that
this
this
is
being
done
well,
but
another
project
might
be
same
materials
not
executed
as
well
so,
and
we
only
get
to
judge
it.
We
need
to
have
a
level
or
some
kind
of
equity
and
how
we're
judging
the
projects
so
I
do
think
that
the
percentages
do
need
to
be
confirmed
and
coordinated
with
us,
so
that
we're
making
a
decision
about
how,
because.
C
C
C
Yeah
and
I
think
the
issue
I
think
the
issue.
What
we're
all
kind
of
getting
to
is
the
fact
that
we
just
don't
want
to
set
that
precedent
that
then
it's
challenged
over
and
over
and
over
again
I
mean
I.
Think
that's
the
concern.
The
design
I
like
the
design,
I
understand
the
maintenance
and
I
appreciate
how
much
thought
you
are
putting
into
this,
but
from
the
guidelines
we
have
I
think
the
concern
is
just
making
sure
that
that
were
careful
for
future
thing
items
that
are
presented
to
us
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
guys.
M
Mr.
chairman,
this
is
Tim
Johnson,
the
in
a
long
time,
land
use,
fella
I,
would
not
be
able
to
sleep
tonight
without
saying
this.
You
know
each
project.
The
reason.
The
purpose
of
this
board
is
that
each
project
should
be
based
on
its
own
merits,
not
on
the
worry
of
precedents
and-
and
maybe
the
staff
could
address
this
or
the
City
Attorney's
Office
can
address
this,
but
also
you
guys
are
working
with.
What's
called
a
guideline
and
I've
heard
about
ten
different
times
how?
Well
everybody
thought
this
was
designed
and
I
trust.
M
Me
I've
been
involved
with
the
design
team
for
months
working
on
various
iterations
of
how
they
can
make
this
affordable
home
project
a
very
good-looking
project
and
still
be
able
to
afford
to
build
it
and
I.
Think
a
gardeners
team
has
done
a
wonderful
job
in
working
around
a
lot
of
site
issues,
not
just
citing
issues,
but
there's
a
lot
of
site
issues
on
this,
including
major
utility
relocations.
N
B
N
Lhara
McDevitt
in
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
yes,
each
each
project
does
stand
on
its
own,
but
I
know
that
the
committee
is
fully
aware
that
that
doesn't
stop
applicants
coming
before
the
committee
always
citing
to
the
use
of
materials
down
Crete
and
as
justification
for
their
design.
So,
yes,
each
Beach
project
does
stand
on
its
own,
but.
N
L
I'm,
not
gonna
argue
the
99
percent,
but
let's
look
at
lift
for
a
moment
that
has
commercials
for
front
on
majority
of
the
first
floor
on
the
corner
and
masonry,
which
is
about
12
inches
wide
between
those
storefronts.
So
if
we
start
to
look
at
percentages,
excluding
glass,
most
of
their
upper
floors
are
actually
a
four
by
eight
sheet
of
hearty
panel
on
that
project.
So
you
know
we're
happy
to
explore
the
first
floor,
especially
there
on
the
north
and
the
west
to
accommodate
the
concerns
about
maintenance
and
and
percentages
on
this
project.
L
Another
you
know
this
project
will
always
be
seen
from
all
four
sides
as
well,
where
other
projects
are
typically
seen
from
two
or
three
sycamore
square
is
obviously
not
going
anywhere
anytime
soon.
The
911
call
center
is
not
going
anywhere
anytime
soon,
which
has
a
large
set
back
from
the
our
South
property
line
and
then
obviously
we're
right
on
north
on
startale
on
4th
Street.
So
I
would
just
consider
you
know,
consider
your
thoughts
beyond
the
99%.
You
know
allowing
us
to
add
some
brick
on
that.
B
I
appreciate
what
the
client
with
what
the
applicant
is
saying.
I
also
appreciate
mr.
Johnson
stepping
in
and
making
a
couple
of
comments
I
agree.
I
did
I
would
believe
that
there
are
probably
a
fair
number
of
previous
projects
that
have
non
masonry
project
products
in
excess
of
the
30%
and
I'm.
Not
actually
I'm,
not
reviewing
this
with
respect
to
a
number
it's
more
of
just
looking
at
it,
specifically
with
respect
to
the
sheer
amount
that
was
proposed.
I
understand
that
you're
willing
to
look
at
the
ground
floor
level.
B
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
masonry
product
for
the
black
I,
don't
know
that
we
can
see
the
detail
with
respect
to
how
the
white
is
addressed.
I
know
you
said
that
we
will
know
what
did
we
buffer?
There
will
be
some
landscaping.
There
will
be
ways
in
which
the
white
is
not
in
contact
with
the
pedestrian
I
think
that
that
needs
to
at
least
be
presented
in
some
way.
I
don't
know
if
it
can
be
presented
and
just
coordinated
with
staff.
We.
L
You
can
see
it
is
on
the
property
line
again,
where
you
see
the
sidewalk
up
against
the
building,
that's
where
we
have
the
black
and
we're
proposing
the
brick
replacement
where
we
don't
have
Rick
and
then,
as
you
get
go
further
south
on
the
west
side,
you
start
to
see
our
patios
get
exposed
there
and
everything
in
all
the
areas
between
the
patios
are
landscaping.
So
the
only
people
that
have
access
to
the
building
are
the
people
who
own
that
or
who
are
renting
that
unit.
L
So
the
sidewalk
is,
you
know
it's
a
wedge
shape
as
you
can
see,
but
varies
from
about
four
feet,
all
the
way
up
to
about
ten
feet
off
the
building
for
the
pathetic
common
for
the
pedestrian.
The
south
side
will
be
is
private,
so
there
is
no
public
access
down
there,
that
it's
a
maintenance
drive
and
just
basically
egress
from
the
building
on
the
south
and
then
on
the
east.
L
It
is
just
a
simple
10-foot
area
that
will
be
loosely
landscaped,
with
some
vertical
trees
to
break
up
the
facade
and
give
a
nice
filtering
landscape
filter
to
the
to
the
saw
itself.
But
there
is
no
pedestrian
access
from
the
public
or
tenants
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
and
so
will
we
will
be.
L
You
know
completely
protected,
essentially
from
any
abuse
and
maintenance
on
the
east
and
the
South
pretty
much
all
the
time.
We'll
also
you
know
we
in
the
end,
our
foundation
will
be
slightly
above
grade,
as
we
all
know,
and
so
we
won't
be
sitting
directly
on
the
ground
with
the
product
on
the
south
from
the
east
will
be.
You
know,
six
to
twelve
inches
out
by
the
time
it's
all
graded
and
foundations
are
poured.
L
D
This
is
Corey
Bates
I,
very
much
appreciate
all
of
that
and
do
agree
that
the
the
north
and
the
West
are
the
priority,
facades
and
I
think
if
the
ground
level
that
those
locations
are
revisited,
as
we've
been
talking
about,
that
would
push
Titian
in
the
right
direction.
I
do
agree
with
Tony
that
we
have
talked
about
this
enough,
and
we've
talked
about
enough
of
the
building
that
it
would
be.
I
would
be
more
comfortable
seeing
it
than
trying
to
put
that
into
words
as
part
of
emotion
here.
D
O
I,
listened
to
this
and
I
completely
respect
the
purpose
of
the
the
design
review
committee
and
you
are
particularly
focused
on
design
as
the
developer
we
we
have
to
we.
There
is
a
lot
to
of
issues
that
we
have
to
take
into
account
here.
I
think
that
zach
is
has
proposed
something
that
then
I
could
certainly
live
with.
O
For
over
a
year,
we
have
endeavored
to
fulfill
other
city
requirements,
which
is
that
we
are
providing
72
of
these
units
for
affordable
it
for
affordable
housing
which,
as
you
probably
realize,
reduces
the
net
operating
income
which
reduces
the
value
which
reduces
the
debt
and
repend
requires
more
equity
and
there's
all
just
a
string
of
issues
here
and
and
I
and
I.
We
and
the
other
thing
is
that
we
are.
O
We
are
pressed
to
start
in
September
on
this,
so
I
think
if
you
take
this
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I
am
for
the
the
first
floor,
masonry
on
the
north
and
west
side.
I
would
support
it.
I
would
say
if
we,
if
you
go,
pursue
this,
this
idea
of
a
very
arbitrary
percentage.
I
think
that
is
the
wrong
direction.
O
O
B
One
of
the
options
that
I
heard
you
say
was
masonry
for
the
full
extent
of
the
west
and
the
north
sides,
which
wasn't
necessarily
what
was
being
discussed
earlier
and,
although
that
sets
up
a
little
bit
of
an
arbitrary.
What
is
the
final
aesthetic,
the
way
that
works
out
and
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
the
motion
of
a
committee
member
I'll.
Let
Corey
comment
well.
D
I
guess
my
question
would
be
maybe
to
staff
of
you
know
whatever
whatever
motion
we
make
here
and
if
it's
embedded
with
conditions,
the
any
revisions
will
need
to
come
back
to
at
least
staff
for
administrative
approval.
So
I
don't
know
that
any
outcome
from
today's
meeting
is
going
to
produce
a
start
motion
tomorrow.
I
would
be
I.
Guess
it's
worth
discussing
what
the
difference
is
and
timeframe,
but
I
can't
imagine
it's
more
than
a
couple
weeks,
maybe
two
or
three
weeks
difference
between
being
administrative,
lea
proved
then,
and
coming
back
to.
L
B
G
G
Just
for
example,
let's
just
say
hypothetically,
you
all
agree
to
something
and
Zack
submits
it
tomorrow
and
I'm
able
to
get
it
into
Monday's
batch
and
that's
a
big
if
and
so
that
what
that
timeframe
would
look
like
would
be
its
July
20th
and
so
the
effective
date
is
the
fourth
August
before
so
and
I.
Don't
really
think
that's
very
likely.
So
it'd
probably
be
at
least
one
week
beyond
that
approval
on
the
twenty-seven
effective
on
on
the
11th
of
August.
So
if
it
came
back
for
administrative
approval,
the
other.
M
G
Look
at
that
would
be
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
Laura.
If
you
make
that
a
condition
of
approval,
for
example,
you
say
that
the
where
it's
shown
the
black
on
the
first
floor
would
be
changed
to
black
brick
and
they,
and
that
was
your
condition
of
approval
and
they
submit
that
revised.
Drawing
and
I
confirm
that
it
addresses
your
condition
that
actually
wouldn't
need
a
separate
approval
process.
What
at
Laura
that
would
just
be
part
of
the
current
process
and
it
would
be
meeting
your
condition
and
the
10
business
day.
G
N
G
Okay,
so
with
that
in
mind,
the
only
only
incident
where
there
would
be
an
administrative
approval
involved
would
be,
if
you
direct
them
to
do
some
type
of
redesign
that
we
haven't
even
seen,
which
you're
not
talking
about
that.
So
with
any
luck,
it
sounds
like
we
might
be
able
to
do
this
without
putting
another
type
of
approval
process
with
it.
O
You
know
I
I
want
to
work
within
the
rules
and
within
your
guidelines,
I
mean
within
your
timing
and
so
forth,
and
I'm
not
trying
to
be
arbitrary,
Corey
I
I
would
I
would
like
to
clear
up
that
I
believe
where
they
on
that
west
side,
where
the
white
is
I,
think
that
does
not
need
to
be
brick
and
I.
Think
that
that
it,
if
it
is
it's
going
to
be
white
brick,
you
know
I
mean
it's.
You.
O
If
you,
if
you
feel
like
it's
got
to
be
a
continuance,
okay,
I
mean
I
I,
want
you
all
to
be
happy
with
the
building
and
I
want
you
to
be
happy
with
us
as
developers,
and
this
team
and
and
I
more
importantly,
want
you
to
be
happy
with
the
product
when
it's
finished
it,
but
if
there's
a
yeah,
if
there's
a
way,
we
can
do
it
as
as
pointed
out,
that's
great,
but
on
you
know,
I'm
not
this
is
that
I
want
to
work
with
you
guys,
so,
as
our
whole
team
does.
Thank
you.
O
L
If
we
could,
if
the
board
will
agree,
it
sounds
like
we
possibly
could
have
a
motion
that
would
require
us
to
replace
any
black
cementitious
product
on
the
North
or
the
west
that
go
on
the
first
floor
to
a
a
brick
product
black.
What
the
color
obviously
does
not
matter,
but
it
would
be
a
masonry
brick
product
over
the
cementitious
siding
we
would.
It
would
be
acceptable
to
that
and
provide
those
appropriate
drawings
to
to
Laura
to
make
sure
that
that
is
all
above
above
par
and
acceptable
to
the
condition.
D
D
Given
the
attention
of
detail
that
that
has
gone
into
this
today,
I
do
thinking
about
it
more
I
have
more
confidence
in
what
would
be
what
would
be
done
in
revising
the
ground
floor.
I
do
have
one
detail
that
I
do
want
to
address
because
we
haven't
specifically
noted
it,
but
the
black
fiber
cement
panel
does
wrap
slightly
around
the
northeast
corner
and
from
a
consistency.
D
L
Sir
anywhere
there's
black
cementitious
siding
on
the
exterior
facades
that
go
to
the
ground
blue.
We
will
replace
that
with
a
black
brick
product,
though
on
the
west
on
the
north,
and
this
image
you
see
here
even
in
it'll,
wrap
into
that
little
there's
the
little
exterior
knocks
that
you
see
there
between
the
black
building
in
the
white
building
quarry.
It
would
wrap
back
into
that
little
recess
as
well,
so
that
concent
detail
would
be
consistent
around
that
black.
B
B
Really
appreciate
the
comments
about
the
fact
that
the
way
that
this
has
been
detailed
for
us
to
see
gives
us
a
sense
of
comfort
with
the
fact
of
the
way
that
it's
going
to
be
executed.
Ultimately,
I
think
the
execution
of
the
white
panels
to
the
ground
are
going
to
need
extreme
care
because,
even
though
they
might
not
have
individuals
right
next
to
them
or
they
might
not
have
access
they're
still
going
to
be
nearer
the
ground.
I
understand
the
six-inch
foundation
edge.
I.
Think
that's
great
during
construction.
B
If
this
is
a
pre
finished
product,
it's
not
going
to
start
off
with
its
grass
next
to
it,
it's
gonna
have
red
earth
and
staining
of
it.
It's
going
to
be
an
issue.
I
think
all
levels
of
care
for
a
non
masonry
product
next
to
the
grade
are
going
to
need,
need
to
be
done,
and
wrong
has
commented
on
the
fact
that
his
desire
ere
is
for
a
good
product
over
over
time.
So
I.
That
gives
me
some
comfort
as
well.
Well,.
L
And
we
have
an
experienced
contractor,
that's
very
familiar
with
these
types
of
projects
and
these
types
of
timeframes
too,
so
we're
confident
with
our
entire
team.
Cms
willowbrook
is
already
on
board
and
work
with
us
through
this
entire
project.
They
built
the
West
Village
project
and
so
I
feel
like
we
have
a
really
good
team
to
ensure
that
all
of
these
things
do
happen
and
will
happen
because
we're
all
a
committed
to
you
know
building
a
product
that,
quite
frankly,
last
longer
than
than
most
people
designed
buildings
these
days.
F
Coria
as
a
another
member
of
the
board,
I
think
that
the
modifications
that
have
been
discussed
and
the
commitments
that
we
have
received
from
Ron
provides
me
with
a
feeling
of
confidence
that,
even
though
this
may
be
a
little
bit
different
and
precedent-setting,
that
I
think
the
objective
of
making
sure
we
have
a
well-designed
building
that
fits
with
the
designs
and
the
responsibilities
of
this
board.
I
think
we're
meeting.
All
those
so
I
would
feel
confident.
Moving
forward
with
revisions,
the
masonry
replacing
the
fiber
supreme
panel,
where
the
black
is
located.
C
This
is
Julie
so
again,
I
overall
I
mean
I'm
I'm
happy
with
where
this
is
kind
of
going
I'm
just
curious,
if
not
having
consistent
materials
where
the
black
is
wherever
going
from
a
painted
brick
or
up
to
this
cement
panels.
Does
that
is
it's
hard
for
me
to
envision
that
so
I'm
guessing?
That
is
going
to
look
good,
guys,
I'm,
asking
again
your
opinion
on
this
you're
comfortable
with
that
different
materials.
There.
D
D
Wood
wood,
when
you
lay
out
the
if
you
were
to
lay
out
a
black
brick
underneath
the
the
black
fiber
cement,
would
would
that
be
flush
or
would
that
have
a
similar
type
setback
or
maybe,
as
a
as
a
way
of
getting
through
this
here?
Could
you
describe
some
of
the
detail
that
we
heard
at
that
transition?
Yeah.
L
We
would
try
we
would
detail
to
where,
where
that
mass
would
still
feel
like
it's
one
cohesive
plane,
so
we
would
have
the
brick
flush
with
the
with
the.
In
that
case,
it's
a
shake.
It's
a
pattern
shaped
pattern
in
the
cementitious,
so
we
would
detail
that,
where
the
black
brick
and
the
red
lick
we're
still
offset
from
each
other,
so
we're
emphasizing
those
live
work
units
that
actually
do
have
people's
businesses
on
that
corner,
and
then
we
would
keep
those
flush,
but
we
would
obviously
there'd
be
a
lot
of.
L
D
L
Black
is
the
shape.
The
wife
is,
the
site,
is
the
horizontal
siding
and
it
is,
it
is
a
little
bit.
It
has
a
shadow
line
in
it.
Cory
the
colonial
smooth,
its
in
there's
a
cut
sheet
is
in
this
packet.
It
is
not
a
true
just
simple
lap
siding,
it
is
a
that's
the
shake.
If
you
go
to
the
colonial
smooth
is
the
name
of
it.
Keep
one
more.
L
You
see
that
shadow
line,
that
is
an
actual
relief
in
the
top
of
the
panel.
It
doesn't
sit
exactly
flush,
but
it
creates
a
pretty
nice
shadow
line
about
1/2
to
3/4
inches
wide
versus
a
true
lap,
where
you
just
have
the
small
shadow
line
of
the
overlap,
the
court
you
know
from
the
from
the
party
panel,
so
this
isn't
or
a
hardiplank.
L
This
is
a
little
bit
more
textured
in
a
sense
of
shadow
lines
and
texture
on
the
facade
than
you
would
get
with
a
standard
car
D
playing
smooth
and
the
exposure
is
6
and
3/4
consistent
on
the
hardiplank
smooth
standard.
You
can
vary
that
between
I
think
4
inches
up
to
10
inches,
but
this
one's
a
bit
more
consistent
and
it's
finish
but
offers
more
shadow
lines
so
again,
white.
Is
this
colonial
smooth?
L
The
black
is
the
shake
which
is,
you
know,
pretty
intensely
textured
over
the
facade
where
it
moves
around
the
seams
will
move
and
there
will
be
a
straight
edge,
shake
not
a
random
edge.
So
it's
a
little
bit
of
it,
has
a
little
bit
small
and
modernity
on
that
and
and
but
gives
us
some
texture,
even
though
it's
all
painted
the
same
color
so
that
you
know
kind
of
changes
as
we
walked
down
the
street
with
light
and
shadow.
B
G
B
B
Think,
there's
enough
differentiation
of
material
that
you're
not
trying
to
make
one
the
other
and
the
way
that
the
windows
are
going
to
flush
out
with
both
the
brick
and
the
siding
above
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
attractive,
I
think
the
big
I
think
the
real
key
thing
for
success
is
not
aligning
the
red
and
the
black
brick,
and
so,
in
that
regards
to
answer
Julie's
question
and
I'll.
Let
Corey
answer
it!
How
he
sees
it.
I
feel
like
it's
the
correct
approach.
B
For
both
the
way
that
the
conversation
is
has
went,
it's
been
very
pleasantly
executed
on
all
parts.
Everybody
has
been
speaking
in
the
positive
in
the
positive
form,
so
that
was
great.
I.
Do
think
that
we're
heading
in
a
direction
that
everybody
is
hopefully
going
to
be
satisfied
with
the
compromises
that
have
been
made.
If
there
are
not
any
further
discussions.
G
This
is
Laura
and
can
I
just
kind
of
put
some
words
to
the
two
conditions
that
you
don't
have
in
writing
in
front
of
you
just
to
maybe
help
out.
One
I
just
want
to
remind
you
that
we
do
need
staff
is
recommending
sorry,
a
condition
that
the
applicant
shall
get
approval
from
the
Public
Works
Department
for
the
inset
parking
spaces,
the
ad,
a
design
at
the
corner
and
the
sight
triangle
encroachment
and
based
on
the
conversation
you
all
have
been
having.
G
Fiber
cementitious
product
that
shows
is
black
on
the
west,
the
east
and
the
north
facades
with
a
masonry
brick
product
now,
I
left
out
black
masonry,
big
brick
product.
Maybe
you
want
to
include
that
in
there,
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
what
I
heard
you
guys
saying
just
trying
to
help
you
with
some
warning.
D
This
is
Corey
Bates
I'll
move
that
we
approve
that
application
on
the
basis
that
the
project
complies
with
the
regulations
and
guidelines
at
the
Downtown
Design
District
zoning
ordinance
as
referenced
in
Section
C
and
D
by
the
staff
report.
With
the
following
three
conditions:
condition
a
the
applicant
shall
obtain
a
variance
from
the
Board
of
Adjustment
from
the
regulation
requiring
the
first
two
floors
to
be
at
or
within
10
feet
of
the
street
right-of-way
conditional
EB.
D
The
applicant
shall
obtain
approval
from
Public
Works
regarding
the
inset
parking,
the
ABA
design
at
the
corner
and
the
site
triangle
encroachment
at
fourth
inch.
Hotel
and
third
condition
see
that
at
the
west,
north
and
east
facades,
where
the
black
fiber
cement
board
is
currently
shown
that
at
ground
level,
that
fiber
cement
board
be
replaced
with
masonry.
L
O
Chairman,
yes,
this
is,
can
I
this
is
Ron
Bradshaw
can
I
say
one
more
quick
thing.
Absolutely
I
want
to
tell
you
how
much
we
appreciate
the
time
and
the
patience
as
you've
shown
here
on
this
on
this
in
this
meeting
and
and
and
I
want
to
tell
you
how
much
I
personally
appreciate
the
service
and
the
dedication
the
command
that
you
have
for
the
work
you
do
so.
Thank
you
very
much
and.
L
L
B
G
G
D
D
Erm
before
I
got
one
yeah
just
this
is
a
question
for
Laura
in
in
the
staff
reports,
and
if
this
was
this
was
provided.
I
apologize
that
mistake,
but
if
we,
if
in
the
staff
reports,
we
ever
reference
other
projects
when
it
would
it
would
it
be
possible
to
include
the
a
case
number
for
those
projects
as
well
to
be
able
to
quickly
pull
those
up.
My
searching
case
number
I.