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The regular monthly meeting of the Oklahoma City Historic Preservation Commission, via video conference, for July 1, 2020.
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Instead
we're
going
to
stream,
it
live
or
stream
it
remotely.
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that,
as
you
arrive
in
the
virtual
meeting,
we
do
have
your
mic
muted.
With
the
exception
of
our
commissioners,
we
have
posted
an
agenda
and
those
who
called
or
emailed
us
in
advance
to
let
us
know
the
name,
contact
number
and
agenda
item
they
wish
to
speak
about
will
be
recognized.
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If
we
do
lose
our
connection
for
this
meeting,
it
will
be
stopped
and
will
reconvene
once
the
connections
are
stored.
If
we're
unable
to
restore
within
a
30
minute
time
frame,
we
will
push
all
of
the
remaining
items
for
cont
for
consideration
to
our
next
regularly
scheduled
historic
preservation,
commission
meeting,
which
will
be
on
august
5th.
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Thank
you,
okay,
so
procedures
for
today's
meetings
are
noted
in
our
agenda
and
for
the
sake
of
time,
I'll
ask
that
any
participants
who
are
unfamiliar
with
the
process
refer
to
that
section.
If,
if
they
wish,
I
want
to
make
a
specific
note
on
certificates
of
appropriateness
when
an
application
has
been
approved
and
after
a
10-day
protest
period
has
expired.
The
historic
preservation
officer
will
mail
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
the
applicant
city.
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Construction
permits
cannot
be
issued
until
that
ca
has
been
issued,
and
I
would
ask
you,
please
contact
hp
staff
for
final
design,
review
or
inspection
or
to
withdraw
items
that
will
not
be
completed
with
regards
to
appeals
to
the
board
of
adjustment.
Any
person
aggrieved
by
any
decision
granting
or
denying
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
may
appeal
to
the
oklahoma
city
board
of
adjustments.
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One
thing
I
wanted
to
note,
as
as
the
chair
just
announced,
all
new
materials
for
the
meeting
were
received
prior
to
the
meeting
and
posted
online.
No
new
material
can
be
presented
at
the
meeting
today,
and
that
includes
screen
sharing,
because
we
have
participants
that
are
participating
via
phone
only.
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We
are
not
allowing
screens
to
be
shared
other
than
the
screen
of
city
staff
sharing
previously
provided
available
online
powerpoint
presentations,
so
just
so
that
if
anyone
in
the
public
attempts
to
share
your
screen,
we're
going
to
block
you
and
anything
that
we
haven't
already
received
can't
be
displayed
at
this
time
during
the
meeting.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
call
attention
to
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
while
we
have
a
little
bit
more
of
an
audience,
is
the
item
under
city
council
at
the
end
of
the
agenda
chapter
60
revisions.
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As
always,
if
you
have
questions
about
any
items
in
the
code,
enforcement
report
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
our
staff
or
to
the
city's
action
center,
and
they
can
try
and
put
you
in
touch
with
the
appropriate
person
addressing
those
code
enforcement
issues
when
you
do
see
a
citation
number
over
in
that
column.
That
means
it
has
progressed
from
a
notice
of
violation
to
an
actual
citation,
and
you
can
reference
that
citation
number
when
you,
if
you
contact
staff
or
code
enforcement.
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This
is
located
in
jefferson.
Well,
no,
I'm!
Sorry!
It's
not!
In
a
district,
it's
the
jefferson
park,
neighbors
association
and
okc
housing
services
redevelopment
corporation
in
ward
7..
This
application
is
by
sarah
wernicke
oklahoma,
state
historic
preservation,
office
for
consideration
and
possible
action
on
a
resolution
regarding
a
proposed
national
register
nomination
for
the
mclean
family
residents.
D
Before
and
shortly
after
statehood
in
an
area
that
is
now
much
more
densely
developed
with
commercial
and
industrial
uses,
this
was
a
early
homestead
site.
The
house
was
built
in
approximately
1911
and
occupied
by
members
of
the
family
for
the
next
80
years
or
so,
and
you
know
remains-
is
a
very
intact
and
rare
example
of
that
period.
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This
property
is
owned
by
the
oklahoma
city
redevelopment
authority,
ward
7..
This
is
an
application
again
by
sarah
wernicke
oklahoma,
state,
historic
preservation
office
for
consideration
of
possible
action
on
a
resolution
regarding
the
proposed
national
register
nomination
for
the
brockway
community
center.
This
property
is
nominated
under
the
criteria
for
its
historic
significance.
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It
is
a
residence
that
was
built
in
1915
with
additions
in
1955,
but
is
significant
for
its
historic
association
with
colored
women's
clubs
and
I'm
pulling
up
the
document
to
make
sure
I
tell
you
the
name
right:
the
oklahoma
federation
of
colored
women's
clubs
that
was
founded
here
in
1911.
They
had
several
locations
around
northeast.
Second
in
that
area
and
then
eventually,
1968
moved
to
this
property
and
were
located
there
until
they
sold
the
property
in
2011..
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D
People
will
likely
remember
that
this
property
was
in
the
news
quite
a
bit
and
was
potentially
going
to
be
demolished,
but
is
now
planned
to
be
preserved
and
restored
by
the
property
owner
and
sarah,
and
the
consultant
associated
with
the
property
may
be
able
to
speak
more
to
that.
If
anyone
has
questions.
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Again,
I
think
the
nomination
pretty
much
says
it
all.
I
think
that
this
building
has
gone
through
quite
an
ordeal
as
of
late,
and
I
think
that
it
is
to
finally
see
this
nomination
going
forward.
I
think,
is
great,
so
I'm
really
glad
that
the
new
property
owner
sees
that
it
is
significant
and
needs
to
be
saved
and
is
willing
to
do
so.
Yes,
so.
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Gov
the
consent
docket
has
been
approved
for
anybody
that
was
here
for
that
you
may
leave
or
stick
around
for
to
hear
the
cases
for
individual
consideration.
Thank
you
guys,
okay,
so
we
will
move
on
to
item
d
cases
for
individual
consideration
and
I
believe,
are
we
going
to
move
one
of
our
cases
up
in
order
katie.
D
Yes,
we
discussed,
we
have
the
potential
to
lose
quorum
a
little
while
later
in
the
meeting,
and
we
have
one
item
that
a
commission
member
has
to
refuse
themselves
on
which
would
then
not
have
quorum.
So
if
the
commission
is
comfortable
with
it,
we'd
like
a
motion
to
move
d4
hpca20-70
up
to
the
top
of
the
object,
the
cases
for
individual
consideration
and
jennifer,
I
did
not
give
you
a
heads
up
on
that.
I
apologize
making
you
skip
around.
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This
is
located
in
crown
heights
ward,
2,
consideration
of
possible
action
on
application
by
jared
smith
for
hunter
griffin
to
item
two
construct:
new
residence,
elective
and
item
five
demolished
garage,
elective
and
six
construct
new
garage
elective.
This
is
a
property
that
we
recently
reviewed
that
had
a
serious
fire
and
the
structure
had
to
be
demolished
that
was
approved
at
a
previous
meeting,
and
the
applicant
now
proposes
to
demolish
the
remaining
garage
and
to
construct
a
new
residence
and
new
garage
at
the
property.
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Yeah,
so
this
is
the
project
that
had
a
significant
fire
well
several
months
ago
now,
but
looking
to
go
ahead
and
demolish
the
the
remaining
structure
on
that.
The
garage
that
you're
looking
at
photos
there
from
and
then
we
we
really
wanted
to
try
to
do
something
that
was
that
did
fit
in
with
the
the
neighborhood
and
crown
heights,
as
I
actually
do
live
in
the
neighborhood
as
well.
But
but
also
we
really
love
the
art
deco
style.
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F
So
after
reading
the
staff
report,
I
also
read
the
national
register
nomination,
the
national
register
nomination
for
crown
heights
to
actually
see
why
the
neighborhood
was
nominated.
What
kind
of
architecture
is
in
the
neighborhood,
because
there
was
part
of
the
staff
report
said
that
or
to
me
it
suggested
that
it
says
the
guidelines
encourage
incorporating
existing
architectural
features
into
new
construction,
and
I
that's
not
my
interpretation
of
of
the
guidelines
to
me
the
guidelines
for
new
construction.
It
can
be
used,
but
it's
not
necessarily
a
starting
point
to
me.
F
So
actually
after
reading
the
nomination
which
has
about,
I
think,
there's
over
500
houses
in
the
in
the
in
the
district,
40
percent
were
two
to
revival.
35
were
colonial
revival
and
then
there
was
minimal
traditional
mission,
spanish
colonial
classic
revival,
monterey
italian
renaissance,
french,
eclectic
and
the
international
style.
So
you
have
this.
25
percent
actually
are
not
are
all
kind
of
different
and
range
from.
I
actually
counted.
F
There's,
let's
see
on
this
particular
street,
I
guess
there
was
on
the
entire
42nd
street.
There
was
around
55
tudor
colonial
15
colonial
revival,
some
minimal
traditional
and
two
ranch
styles
anyway.
So
I
think
what,
in
my
opinion,
what
makes
these
neighborhoods
so
wonderful
and
beautiful
is
their
diversity
and
definitely
crown
heights.
Although
you
know
it's
kind
of
dominated
by
one
or
two
styles,
the
diversity
of
the
other
individual
styles,
I
think,
enhances
the
overall
look,
because
I
think
that
this
is
a
tough.
F
If
that's
who
it
is,
he
he
recused
himself,
but
it
really
allows
the
designer
to
be
more
creative
on
how
to
actually
design
in
context,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
my
research
and
say
that
that
is
the
reason
that
I
think
that
this
is
a
good
direction.
I
mean
I
I
want
to
hear
all
of
the
discussion
and
there's
lots
perhaps
lots
to
discuss.
I
don't
know
how
the
neighborhood
feels
about
it,
but
I
actually
do
feel
like
that
this.
F
For
these
reasons,
I've
stated
will
feel
less
like
a
new
construction
project
than
if
we
tried
to
copy
a
1930s
tudor
revival
and
just
for
everybody's
information.
The
majority
of
this,
which
is
kind
of
weird,
because
it
was
during
the
depression.
This
this
particular
neighborhood
was
not
started.
The
first
house
was
not
started
until
1930
and
most
95
percent
of
it
was
finished
by
1941,
so
it's
always
been
an
unusual
neighborhood
in
that
it
was
built
during
the
depression.
So
those
are
my.
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Well,
you
too
may
get
online
and
read
the
national
register.
Nomination.
Okay-
and
I
I
will
add
this
is
a
weird
thing-
is
that
I
actually
work
for
the
city
in
1995
in
the
historic
preservation
office
and
I
wrote
the
nomination
for
crown
heights.
I
didn't
even
remember
that,
because
I've
written
I
used
to
write
quite
a
few,
it's
been
quite
a
few
years
ago.
So
anyway,
it
is
very
interesting
and-
and
you
should
find
the
link
I'll,
send
you
the
link
and
then
you
may.
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C
Well,
commissioner,
meacham,
I
certainly
appreciate
your
your,
I
guess,
research
on
this.
I
I
did
not
expect
that
the
direct
that
to
be
the
direction
that
you're
going
with
it,
but
I
definitely
appreciate
it
now.
I
do
struggle
with
struggle
with
it
a
little
bit
just
it
is,
you
know
a
far
change
from
from
you
know
what
is
traditionally
on
that
block,
and
so
I
think
there
is
some
compatibility
issues.
It
does
seem
you
know
pretty
high
style,
but
obviously
very
very,
very
cool
but
curious.
What
what
is
the
do?
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F
That
would
be
worse,
so
I
guess
I
would
not.
I
might
not
go
this
direction
if
I
was
the
designer,
because
I
have
a
different
interpretation
of
what
belongs
in
historic
districts.
I
personally
feel
like
that
contemporary
architecture
built
with
compatible
massing
and
size
and
care
and
those
kind
of
characteristics
in
my
opinion,
would
be
my
personal
direction,
but
this
commission
has
approved
the
only
things
I
have
seen
approved
and
been
a
part
of
since
I've
been
on.
F
So
I
I
mean
to
me
it's
a
struggle
also
in
that
I
it's
not
my
interpretation
of
the
national
guidelines
to
copy
things
that
are
already
there,
but
that
is
the
tradition
of
this
commission
and
if
you
would
look
almost
always,
I
would
say:
there's
one
that
that's
on
the
agenda
today
for
the
fence
that
that
particular
one
maybe
has
a
little
more
a
little
more
of
a
modern
leaning
than
maybe
others.
But
typically
we
tend
to
be
happy
with
things
that
are
copied
so.
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I
I
don't
know,
I
don't
think
I
really
agree
with
that
as
much
as
it
needs
to
be
contemporary
and
not
because
there
are
other
houses
in
crown
heights
that
are
aren't
deco
style.
I
know
one
on
chartel,
you
know
and
it's
the
same
kind
of
style
and
to
me
it's
it's
another
imitation
of
a
style.
So
I
don't
see.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
joe,
but
I
don't
see
this
as
being
a
good
representation.
L
No
well,
no,
I
was
just
gonna
chime
in
I
mean
kind
of
you
know
as
as
every
time
I've
come
in
front
of
you
guys.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
you
know,
especially
living
in
the
neighborhood.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
what
we
had
went
around
and,
and
you
know
we
had
drawn
up
a
a
tudor
revival
that
you
know
similar
to
what
would
be
you
know
what
was
there
and
drove
around
and
kind
of
pointed
out,
the
exact
ones
that
you
could
tell
were
built.
L
You
know
in
the
90s,
and
I
think
it's
probably
the
90s
that
were
the
last
ones
built,
but
I
just
they
just
stuck
out
so
badly
to
me
that
I
just
was
trying
to
you
know,
come
up
with
something
that
would
have
foot
in
in
the
neighborhood,
and
you
know.
Obviously
it's
going
to
you
know,
stick
out
but
wanted
to
try
to
do
something
just
a
little
bit
different
in
the
guidelines
and
and
try
to
make
something.
N
You
do,
mr
chairman,
it's
brian
davis
good
afternoon
to
you
and
to
the
commissioners.
My
name
is
brian
davis.
I
live
at
905
northwest
41st
street
and
I'm
with
you
today
representing
the
crown
heights
edgemere
heights,
neighborhood
association
as
we're
in
the
early
stages
of
the
process,
and
we're
only
just
now
starting
to
hear
from
the
community
about
this.
I
can
keep
this
simple
today.
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D
But,
yes,
I
think
in
general,
that
was
one
of
staff's
main
main
concerns
is
that
you
have
continuous
structure
from
the
build
to
line
all
the
way
back
to
the
rear
of
the
garage.
Pretty
much-
and
I
don't
know
if
the
applicant
has
looked
at
calculating
percentage
of
the
lot-
that's
covered
versus
remaining
open
space
at
this.
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L
Yes,
it
I
mean
it
definitely
goes
back
to
it
again.
You
know
we
just
went
back
that
far
just
because
you
know
the
adjoining
or
the
property
next
door,
or
both
properties
next
or
not
not
to
the
left
but
the
one
to
the
east.
Actually,
it
goes
past
its
garage
as
well,
and
I
guess
we
could
move
the
garage
back.
A
Well,
you
can't
move
it
back
too
much.
It's
only
five
feet
and
there's
a
probably
utility
easement
back
there,
but
it
looks
like
the
house
to
the
left
on
the
drawing
looks
like
an
add-on.
Most
of
the
houses
probably
are
similar
to
the
one
on
the
right,
so
that
really
the
house
really
does
extend
very
far
back
on
the
site
more
than
I
think
others
on
the.
L
A
A
L
E
A
D
So
very
the
very
first
guideline
for
new
construction
is
that
new
buildings
must
follow
historic
setback.
Patterns
of
the
street
should
be
consistent
in
historical
patterns
of
development,
for
the
property
block
and
district.
So
we
usually
look
if
we
have
a
block
with
uniform
setbacks.
We
expect
new
construction
to
align
with
those
setbacks.
If
we
have
a
block
where
the
setbacks
are
varied,
we
would
want
new
construction
to
fall
within
the
range
of
setbacks
along
the
block
and
not
protrude
forward
of
other
structures
on
the
block.
K
M
Hello,
this
is
rebecca
thompson.
I
work
for
joel
collins
and
I've
worked
with
mr
smith.
The
the
site
plan
that
you're
looking
at
is
is
based
on
what
information
I
could
get
of
the
neighboring
properties
and
I
believe
there
should
be
a
notation
that
says
all
dimensions
are
estimated
and
should
be
field
verified.
M
F
F
F
A
L
D
This
is
in
the
attachments
to
the
staff
report
and
it
is,
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
to
that
sorry.
This
is
it's
labeled,
page
1.01
site
plan
and
it
shows
the
site
plan
for
the
property
and
then
the
site
plan
a
rough
site
plan
for
the
structures
to
either
side
of
the
house,
and
it
shows
the
proposed
structure
coming
fairly
far
forward
of
the
buildings
to
either
side,
which.
O
L
Yeah
I
mean
we
completely
agree
that
it
needs
to
confirm
form
with
that
lineup.
For
sure
I
mean
if
that's
off,
I
don't
you
know
what
I'm
looking
at
it's
not
so
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit.
I
don't.
I
don't
see
that
so,
but
but
yeah
we
definitely
I
mean
that's
a
no-brainer,
so
if
the
one
you
have
is
is
substantially
in
front
we're
in
front
at
all,
I
mean
that's
just
a
that's
another.
A
K
L
P
Yeah,
I
I
think
I'm
unmuted
now
I
apologize
I
I
did
not
know
how
to
to
get
on
the
call.
This
is
joel
and
I
just
got
a
copy
of
that
as
well,
and
that
is
that
is
I.
I
totally
agree
that
I
wouldn't.
We
would
not
want
the
house
to
stick
out
in
front
of
those
other
houses,
so
we
need
to
confirm,
left
and
right,
because
I
have
a
previous
plot
plan
that
shows
everything
lined
up.
So
we
just
that's
something
we'd
have
to
confirm,
and
not
just
guess
at
right
now.
C
So
so
to
me
it
sounds
like
there's
some
plans
that
need
to
be
modified.
It
sounds
like
some
conversation
with
the
neighborhood
associations
needs
to
be
had
there's,
certainly
demolition
of
the
garage
to
me.
That
seems
like
something
we
might
be
able
to
approve
today,
but
it
sounds
like
some
of
the
other
things
might
require
a
continuance.
Do
we
have
any
questions
on
the
demolition
piece
of
this?
I.
A
A
F
G
L
L
D
L
N
N
N
D
So
looking
at
the
calendar,
I
I
think
I
mean
I
think
by
the
end
of
next
week
friday.
The
10th
angela
will
yell
at
me
as
soon
as
this
call
is
over.
But
I
think
that
is
workable
for
us,
given
that
you're
trying
to
meet
with
the
neighborhood.
But
I
think
that's
still
going
to
be
awfully
tight
to
get
a
meeting
with
with
neighbors
and
to
confirm
setback,
etc.
And
you
know
get
revised
drawings
done.
But.
P
I
I
might
say
that
I
feel
like
jared.
It
would
not
be
a
problem.
You
know
verifying
the
setbacks,
getting
the
drawing
design
documentation.
You
know
remedied
for
next
week,
no
problem.
I
think
it
would
just
fall
back
to
what
sort
of
information
from
the
neighborhood
do
you
need
to
provide
and-
and
could
that
maybe
not
necessarily
be
by
that
friday.
P
L
N
N
C
G
C
D
This
is
located
in
the
mesa
park,
historic
district
board,
six
consideration
and
possible
action
on
application
by
jeremy,
gardner,
gardner,
architects
for
david
burnett,
and
we
actually
have
in
between
when
this
application
initially
started.
And
now
the
property
has
actually
changed
hands.
We
have
the
new
owner
on
the
call
with
us
today.
Danae
grace
is
on
the
call,
I
believe,
for
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
nine
request,
revisions
to
the
following
items:
install
fence,
elective
and
two
to
construct
house
and
attach
garage
elective.
K
K
Q
Q
E
Q
Those
two
lots
were
split:
the
property
boundary
changed
a
little
bit,
and
so
this
new
owner
is
choosing
to
fence
in
more
area
of
their
property
than
the
previous
owner
had
desired.
To
I'll,
also
add
that
they
have
worked
with
the
adjacent
property
owner
to
the
south
to
help
define
where
that
boundary
needs
to
be
and
had
a
number
of
conversations
with
them
to
make
sure
that
they
are
satisfied
with
the
approach
as
well.
D
D
A
D
The
recommendation
was
to
approve
the
revision
as
as
one
item
essentially
item.
Nine
is
a
revision
with
some
conditions
regarding
the
fence
and
site
plan.
To
some
extent
they
have
met
those
it's
still
a
very
tall
fence
and
retaining
wall
combination
at
a
corner
property.
So
even
with
the
reduction
of
the
fence
to
six
feet
in
height,
it's
still
a
solid
fence,
and
so
we
wanted
to
make
sure
the
commission
looked
at
that
carefully
and
determined
that
that
was
appropriate
to
keep
that
configuration.
F
D
R
C
D
D
Q
C
F
F
I
mean
we're
looking
at
the
corner
of
the
property.
Are
we
going
to
be
able?
I
I
just
I
don't
I
don't
know
I
don't
have
enough
information,
you
see
the
house,
the
fence,
the
I
don't
know.
Does
anybody
know
exactly
what
it's
going
to
look
like,
because
I
don't
see
a
drawing
of
a
fence
on
the
drawings.
I
see
floor
plans
and
then
I
see
elevations.
Q
H
It
looks
like
me:
maybe
this
will
help
clarify,
but
you
show
some
dash
lines
on
that
kind
of
window
or
those
patio
doors
coming
out
on
that
311
east
elevation.
So
it
appears
to
me
that
you're,
showing
the
top
of
that
fence
as
that
solid
line
and
then
to
kind
of
show
what
happens
behind
the
fence.
You've
got
those
dashed
lines,
so
it
seems
like
we,
we
kind
of
have
an
idea
of
it.
I
mean
it
cuts
off,
of
course,
but
correct
me
from
wrong.
D
C
F
F
Q
Yeah,
we
can
definitely
provide
some
additional
clarification
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
possible
to
do
that-
sort
of
on
a
conditional
approval
or
with
the
staff
or
if
we
need
to
push
that
to
another
meeting.
But
I
will
say
that
kind
of
everything
that's
happening
along
the
east
and
north
boundaries
of
the
property
and
the
west.
Boundary
of
the
property
has
already
been
approved
in
previous.
Q
D
That's
what
I
was
just
going
to
say
is
that
the
the
fencing
along
here
on
the
side
of
the
house-
I'm
sorry
that
it's
not
depicted
accurately
in
what
you've
been
given
today,
but
that's
not
actually
proposed
at
this
time.
It
was
addressed
in
the
original
ca
for
the
construction
of
the
house.
So
we
didn't
include
anything
about
that.
The
only
portion
of
the
fencing
that
is
being
proposed
to
change
from
the
original
ca
right
now
is
the
rear
fence,
along
that
south
property
line,
where
it
jogs
around
the
carriage
house
and
is.
D
So
it
is
if
we
can
scroll
through
the
powerpoint
a
little
bit
and
cameron
I'll,
tell
you
when
to
stop.
So
this
is,
if
you
look
at
this
powerpoint,
this
is
the
yep.
So
the
fence
is
at
that
gate.
You
can
see
the
fence
up
above
it
in
the
yard,
so
it's
sitting
kind
of
on
top
of
that
retaining
wall
and
then
jogs
back
to
go
behind
that
gate
set
within
the
backyard.
D
C
C
C
It
I
feel
like
that,
we're
not
going
to
see
much
of
the
fence
but-
and
I'm
certainly
comfortable
with
the
six
foot
fence,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
my
fellow
commissioners
are
comfortable
with
what
they're
approving
as
well.
So
I
think
if
we
need
some
sort
of
documentation
or
additional
information,
I
think
that's
probably
what
we
would
request.
F
My
confusion
is
just
that
we
have
all
of
these
pictures
of
the
of
the
side,
all
of
the
photographs
and
and
basically
you're
saying
that
none
of
the
photographs
show
where
the
fence
is
going
to
be,
except
for
that
one
little
piece.
If,
if
that's
it,
then
I'm
okay,
I
don't
really.
I
thought
that
you
know
the
way,
because
you
showed
all
of
these
pictures,
I'm
assuming
that
they
had
to
do
something
with
the
fence
that's
proposed,
but
if,
if
you
none
of
these
pictures
actually
show
where
the
fence
would
be.
D
F
F
D
D
E
C
D
This
is
located
in
located
in
the
heritage,
hills,
east,
historic
district,
ward,
6
consideration
and
possible
action
on
application
by
opm
realty
to
one
install
can
led
lights
at
third
story:
soffit
elective.
This
is
an
application
that
the
commission
has
seen
twice
previously.
So
at
this
meeting
we
have
to
either
approve
or
deny
the
application
staff
has
not
received
any
additional
communication
from
the
applicant
since
the
last
time
this
application
was
heard,
and
at
this
point
we
have
recommended
denial.
D
I
H
E
C
D
D
D
Have
the
applicant
has
returned
with
some
revisions
to
the
or
no
I'm
sorry,
I'm
confusing
this
with
another
property,
also
on
17th
street.
We
have
seen
this
one
previously.
Also,
this
is
a
construction
of
a
garage.
Previously
we
heard
a
request
for
a
recommendation
of
a
variance
for
returning
the
primary
structure
to
a
duplex
and
that
was
approved
by
board
of
adjustments.
There's
been
some
back
and
forth
with
the
applicant
board
of
adjustment
staff,
hp
staff
on
whether
or
not
they
could
make
a
garage
apartment
at
this
time.
D
S
E
S
C
K
F
F
S
Sure,
and
that's
what
most
of
the
conversation
with
angela
and
katie
have
been
about
the
size.
We.
We
realized
that
it's
50
square
feet
over
in
looking
online
at
required
garage
sizes
and
the
size
of
our
vehicles,
the
required
width
for
we
have
a
large
truck
and
a
medium-sized
suv,
and
so
the
required
width
for
that
is.
20
really
adds
up
to
about
20
foot,
eight
inches
and
we've
asked
for
20
foot
so
that
you
know
it
makes
it
a
little
tight
on
the
doors
opening.
S
But
we
can
work
with
that.
As
far
as
the
length,
we
would
need
19
foot
six
inches
and
we've
asked
for
for
25
feet,
so
that
gives
us
a
little
bit
of
space.
You
know
pulling
in
at
the
front
of
the
vehicles
and
at
the
end
of
the
vehicle.
So
that's
why
we
went
with
the
500
square
feet
instead
of
the
450.
S
That
was
the
other
one.
I
was
going
to
bring
up
we're
very
flexible
on
that
the
dormer
is
actually
just
to
provide
space
in
the
room
of
you
know
the
room
above
the
way
the
building
faces.
The
dormer
looks
at
the
side
of
the
garage
of
our
neighbors,
so
it
doesn't
look
into
anybody's
yard.
It
doesn't
overlook
our
other
neighbor's
pool.
It
literally
just
looks
at
the
side
of
the
neighbor's
garage.
F
G
S
F
A
F
S
F
H
I
mean
that
is
a.
That
is
a
point
I
kind
of
second,
I
think
joe
kind
of
hit
on
what
it
is.
It
just
doesn't
look
right.
I
think
partly
it's
you
know
if
you're
going
to
do
something
asymmetric,
I
think
that
can
be
interesting
if
it's
executed,
you
know
correctly
and
I
think
the
scale
of
the
dormer
in
conjunction
with
it
being
asymmetric.
H
You
know
the
whole
it
just
kind
of
feels
a
little
bit
off.
I
agree
with
the
fact
I
mean
it
is
tucked
away
behind
the
house,
so
you
wouldn't
necessarily
see
it
from
the
house,
but
maybe
allen
was
kind
of
alluding
to
this.
If
you
had
two
smaller
dormers
and
of
course
you
would
have
one
on
the
side
that
would
be
more
visible,
potentially
from
the
street,
although
I
believe
looking
at
the
side
plan
that
the
house
and
the
garage
is
kind
of
tucked
away
behind
the
house
a
little
bit.
E
R
Is
that
some
this
is
alan
smith?
I
just
have
just
just
a
question
on
it,
so
angela
is
angelo
in
here
angela,
if
we-
and
I
assume
probably
and
commissioners
you
you
can
probably,
but
if
it's
if
it's
approved
from
the
hp
office,
is
that
something
that
you
know
I
mean
it's.
If
they
feel
it's
okay,
you
guys
kind
of
go
with
them
a
lot
so.
R
But
I
mean
if
if
if
they
tell
us,
because
I
know
that
angela's
saying
yeah,
this
isn't
working
quite
right,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
we
are
definitely
willing
to
work
with
them
on
to
get
it
correct.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
once
they
say
hey.
I
think
this
will
actually
work.
A
H
A
F
In
my
opinion,
I
mean
they're
both
saying
well,
nobody
will
see
it.
So
it's
okay,
I
mean,
if
I
were
you
I
would.
I
would
would
work
out
something
I
would
rather
see.
Maybe
two
small
dormers.
I
the
worst
thing,
I
think,
is
it.
It
hits
the
peak.
I
don't
know
if
that's
so
that
you
have
some
kind
of
head
room.
F
If
that's
what
you
all
are
thinking
that
you
could
have
some
headroom
there,
I'm
sorry,
yes,
ma'am,
yes
right
and
I,
and
I
think
that
and
that's
what
it
kind
of
looks
like,
and
it's
just
awkward
in
my
opinion
to
have
that
meet
at
the
top.
If
you
look
at
the
front
of
your
you
know,
if
you
want
to
do
a
dormer
that
looks
like
the
one
at
the
front
of
your
house,
you
know
on
either
side.
Maybe
then
I
asked.
E
A
S
C
F
S
That's
been
another
discussion.
If
you
look
at
the
drawing
number
two
is
the
drawing
number.
Two
is
the
desired
placement
we
actually
submitted
to,
but
we
prefer
number
two,
and
so
it
has.
It
does
kind
of
jaunt
the
driveway
off
to
the
left
a
little
bit,
and
we
have
talked
about
the
difference
between
a
permeable
product
like
doing
a
brick
driveway
or
something
that
would
allow
for
drainage
versus
a
concrete
driveway.
F
S
A
S
A
Well,
the
garage
in
the
center
of
the
yard,
with
a
little
strip
to
the
side,
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
good
site
plan
to
me,
plus
typically
we'd
want
them
in
the
same
place
as
the
historic
garage.
So
I'm
not
in
favor
of
the
additional
paving.
I
know
what
you
want
is
more
parking
back
there,
but
I
don't
think
that's
to
me
not
appropriate.
S
Well,
the
other
reason
was
it's
a
little
difficult
to
get
in
and
turn
around
and
drive
back
out.
I
mean
if
you
when
you
just
when
it's
right
there
at
the
end
of
the
driveway,
it
doesn't
give
much
room
to.
We
have
a
very
narrow
driveway
with
our
neighbors
air
conditioning
units
sitting
pretty
much
in
our
driveway,
and
so
you
really
have
to
turn
around
and
drive
out
forwards.
Just
to
be
safe
and
backing
out
is
very
difficult.
S
A
A
R
Appropriate
so
pretty
much.
What
we
probably
should
do
is
just
go
ahead
and
try
to
get
it
set
up
on
the
where
it's
actually
at
then,
but
so
that
would
site
plan.
I
mean,
like
the
the
actual
plan
for
the
for
the
garage
itself,
is
good
fixing
the
the
dormer
and
everything.
So
we
definitely
need
to
fix
the
dormer,
get
it
correct,
but
there's
not
really
an
issue
with
it
being
on
that
side.
If
we
put
it
right
where
the
concrete
already
is
then.
S
A
D
A
S
A
R
R
You
know
didn't,
didn't
want
it
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
we
were
trying
to
appease
them
as
well,
but
so
I
mean
I
think
we
can
probably
figure
out
how
to
build
it
there.
If
we
build
it
on
the
existing
concrete,
we
just
need
to
go
back
and
obviously
we
need
to
fix
the
dormer
so
we'll
go
back
and
fix
that
and
then
just
just
plan
it
out
for
where,
where
you're
talking
about
there.
A
C
C
C
R
A
new,
no,
I
don't
think
we'll
be
able
to
have
that.
So
do
we
need
to
do
it
to
the
following
month,
because
so
what
you're
saying
is
the
new
yeah
illustration
is
going
to
have
to
be
to
you
by
tuesday
yeah?
I
don't
think
he's
going
to
make
that
happen
so
when
you
probably
need
to
put
it
for
another
month,.
C
C
D
T
Yes,
so
the
first
thing
that
you
wanted
to
see
changed
was
we
had
a
a
pergola
structure
off
of
the
garage
facing
the
north
towards
the
back
of
the
historic
structure
that
you
wanted,
removed
and
moved
over
to
the
west
side,
which
was
changed
and
then
the
other
item
of
note
was
a
height
elevation
in
in
comparison
to
the
detached
historic
garage.
I
think
that
was
built
in
the
40s
to
the
south
of
us
and
we
submitted
those
pictures
and
you
can
see
the
yellow
siding
next
to
the
existing
garage.
T
T
A
C
The
main
concern
I've
got
just
looking
at
the
site
plan
is
the
garage
is
now
taller
than
the
house.
You
know
I
feel
like
it
fits
in
better
with
the
surrounding
garages,
but
it
almost
now
competes
with
the
the
actual
main
structure,
and
that
I
don't
know
is
you
know
back
to
our
conversation
a
couple
seconds
ago.
It's
a
little
bit
weird.
F
I
understand
that
concern,
but
it
you
know,
as
far
as
traditional
you
know,
rear
garage
apartments
on
side
streets.
I
I
think
that
in
this
situation
it
does
fit
with
its
new
neighbor,
and
you
know
there.
There
are
instances
where
you
know,
there's
one
story
or
one
story
and
a
half
houses
with
two-story
garages,
but
I
think
on
I
I
don't
know
if
I
would
want
it
if
it
was
like
just
in
the
back,
but
since
it
seems
to
work
with
the
one
to
the
left,
maybe
okay.
H
That
kind
of
concur
this
does
seem
to
me
a
kind
of
a
unique
situation
where
you,
where
you
have
the
two.
You
know
you
kind
of
have
a
cluster
of
three
of
these
two
story:
garages
in
back
that
almost
kind
of
read
as
as
one
in
a
way,
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
unique
condition,
and
I'm
not
sure
I
really.
You
know
that
the
two-story
garage
doesn't
really
bother
me
too
much.
Honestly,
okay,.
T
H
O
H
A
What
I
would
suggest
I
mean
I'm,
not
one,
it's
not
my
house,
but
you
know
you
don't
want
that
bedroom
to
be
all
windows.
I
would
move
the
two
that
are
that
are
on
the
east
to
the
north
face
and
I
think
the
east
elevation
would
be
fine,
because
there's
a
lot
of
doors
and
windows
on
there.
Now,
okay,
just
a
thought.
H
T
C
D
D
E
C
C
To
me,
the
the
railing
seems
pretty
straightforward,
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
I
guess
quite
honestly,
I'm
pretty
comfortable
with
stories,
but
I'm
comfortable
with
the
pavers
as
well.
The
front
door
is
a
little
a
little
more
high
style
than
I.
I
think
we
would
prefer
but
curious
what
y'all's
thoughts
are.
F
D
Right
we,
the
guidelines,
say
that
driveways
should
be
concrete
unless
we
have
historic
precedent
for
another
material.
So,
typically,
when
people
want
to
widen
the
driveway,
we
want
that
to
be
done
with
concrete,
not
with
other
products
or
other
materials,
and
similarly
the
door
doesn't
appear
to
be
based
on
any
sort
of
historic
precedent,
for
either
this
property
or
surrounding
similar
properties.
G
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
C
C
C
F
F
Mean
in
the
past
we've
always
you
know
if
they're
original,
they
have
to
be
the
same.
So
in
this
case,
in
my
opinion,
they
would
either
have
to
replace,
as
is
same
place
unless
they
have
documentation
that
they
were
used.
On
the
second
floor,
which
it's
got,
siding
so
it'd
be
hard
to
tell
or
repair
so,
but
we
can
continue.
E
U
U
U
U
Pairs
of
shutters,
which
have
rotted
and
by
the
way,
I
would
like
to
thank
angela
for
guiding
us
as
to
how
to
beautify
this
home
and
keep
it
historic.
At
the
same
time,
the
first
thing
we
did
was
to
take
out
the
green
astral
turf
on
the
front
porch,
so
we're
very
much
interested
in
what
you
guys
are
about,
but
we
we
do
need
to
do
something
with
the
shutters.
U
E
F
F
They
were
historic,
that
that
would
be
my
opinion
unless,
unfortunately,
when
something's
there-
and
you
can't
prove
that
something
else
was
there-
then
it's
very
difficult
for
us
to
prove
something,
because
it's
more
likely
that
the
shutters
around
you
are
newer
than
the
other
than
original
shutters.
You
know
that
are
on
the
other.
K
U
C
U
C
U
V
U
C
F
U
F
I
mean,
according
to
the
guidelines,
I
would
say
yes,
it
is,
but
I
would
I
would
encourage
you
to
go
see
that
street
and
angela,
if
you
could
assist
with
with
the
address
of
that
street
carrie
place
to
them,
so
they
could
go
see
the
ones
that
that
are
like
that.
Maybe
you
will
learn
to
love
them
after
you
see
other
shutters
similar
to
yours,
joe.
F
It
looks
just
like
that
only
they've
cut
out
a
hatchet
a
little
hatchet
into
the
shutter.
Sometimes
it's
a
heart
instead
of
like
they
have
a
diamond
you'll,
see
half
a
heart
on
each
side
or
there's
different
designs,
but
they're
actually,
and
so
they
call
that
so.
Halloween
is
a
very
big
place
over
on
carrie
place,
and
so
the
hatchet
house
is
well
known
because
of
that
because
there's
it's
association
to
halloween
sure
interesting.
U
U
U
A
U
F
U
O
O
Structures
that
appear
to
have
shutters
of
similar
origins,
they
have
a
variety
of
shapes
cut
in
them.
We've
seen
diamonds
that
are
much
more
angular
than
these
we've
seen
some
similar
to
this,
the
hatchet
house
hearts
when
you
move
into
some
of
the
storybook
houses
that
we
hear
a
lot
of
news
about
here.
Lately
you
see
a
lot
of
them,
then
I
think
that
this
age
of
house,
the
1930s,
is
kind
of
the
beginning
of
that
wide
spread.
V
V
F
E
G
M
U
F
U
V
F
F
A
C
F
F
C
C
C
D
D
We
have
lots
and
lots
of
administrative
approvals.
Those
are
available
online
if
you're
already
in
the
website,
where
all
of
the
attachments
are,
but
that's
happy
to
answer
questions
about
any
of
those.
If
you
want
to
follow
up
with
us,
I
did
want
to
say
that
we
have
a
withdrawal
here
for
hpca
20-77,
and
the
item
listed
is
inaccurate.
They
were
withdrawing
another
piece
of
their
application.
I
believe
it
had
to
do
with
their
back
porch.
D
You
also
you
actually
just
reviewed
construction
of
the
new
garage
there.
That's
not
something
you're
taking
action
on,
so
it's
just
a
typo,
but
just
to
clarify
that
discrepancy,
and
then
we
already
mentioned
previously.
The
city
council
action,
revising
chapter
60
to
revise
fees
and
then
finally
preserve
okc
is
scheduled
to
go
to
council
july
7th.
Previously
we
had
reported
that
it
was
going
to
go
at
the
end
of
june,
but
there
actually
was
no
council
meeting
the
end
of
june.
D
K
E
C
Fourth
to
you
as
well,
our
last
couple
of
items
item
g
next
meeting
date
that
will
be
on
wednesday
august
5th
at
2
p.m.
New
applications
for
this
will
were
received
by
june
30th.
New
information
on
projects
continued
from
today's
meeting.
The
upcoming
meeting
must
be
submitted
to
staff
by
4
pm
tuesday,
unless
otherwise
noted
in
today's.