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A
All
right
welcome
everyone
to
the
city
of
oklahoma
city
board
of
adjustment
meeting
for
november
2020,
which
is
now
called
to
order.
The
meeting
is
disconnected
at
any
time.
The
meeting
will
be
stopped
and
reconvened
once
the
connection
can
be
restored.
The
connection
cannot
be
restored
within
30
minutes.
Items
remaining
for
consideration
will
be
completing
to
the
next
regularly
scheduled
board
of
adjustment.
Meeting
the
agenda
and
documents
are
located
at
okc.gov
for
anyone
wishing
to
speak
on
an
agenda
item
or
for
citizens
to
be
heard.
A
Hopefully,
you've
already
arranged
with
staff
to
be
heard,
and
you
will
call
it
the
appropriate
time
when
we
call
your
case.
I
will
recognize
the
applicant
or
representative
to
speak
and
then
I
will
recognize
any
protests
and
then
we
will
close
with
any
with
the
applicant
speaking.
The
board
will
deliberate
ask
any
questions
and
then
the
board
will
vote.
A
If
you
have
not
prearranged
with
the
city
to
speak
on
an
item,
I
will
regularly
ask
if
anyone
else
would
like
to
be
heard
on
a
matter
at
that
time.
If
you'd
like
to
speak,
please
use
the
raise
your
hand.
Function
on
zoom
on
your
computer
click
raise
hand,
and
you
should
be
able
to
lower
your
raised
hand
that
same
way
on
your
phone
press,
star,
9,
the
board
and
staff
will
be
notified.
A
When
you
raise
your
hand
just
to
note,
if
you're,
if
you've
already
rearranged
to
a
prearranged
to
speak
with
city
staff,
you
should
not
need
to
use
the
raise
your
hand
function
unless,
for
some
reason,
you're
not
on
our
list.
The
instructions
are
located
on
the
agenda.
If
you
need
them
for
speakers
other
than
the
applicant.
Please
try
to
limit
your
comments
to
three
minutes.
A
If
you
call
in
after
your
item's
been
heard,
or
if
you
want
to
raise
a
different
matter,
we'll
allow
you
to
speak
under
citizens
to
be
heard
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
when
you
call
in
staff
will
mute
your
device,
and
I
ask
that
all
participants,
except
for
board
members,
keep
their
sound
on
mute
until
they
are
recognized
to
speak
to
unmute
your
phone
press
star
six
board.
Members
will
be
allowed
to
ask
questions
and
make
comments
at
any
time.
A
Please
do
not
interrupt
board
members
while
they
are
speaking
because
we
need
a
clear
record
and
it
makes
the
meetings
go
by
much
faster
before
you
begin
with
your
comments,
please
identify
yourself
by
stating
your
name
and
address
and
this
meeting
is
called
to
order
cindy.
Can
you
call
the
roll
please.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
for
if
this
impacts
the
applicant
in
any
way
we'll
have
four
board
members
instead
of
five.
So
keep
that
in
mind.
If
that
impacts
your
application,
you
can
try
to
seek
a
continuance,
that's
appropriate.
A
F
F
A
D
I
A
K
A
A
F
A
Okay,
we
got
one
of
two:
does
your
prime
go
full
screen.
A
A
A
Okay,
well,
we'll
just
go
with
the
voice
vote
for
now,
and
hopefully,
by
kind
of
working
throughout
this
meeting.
Maybe
you'll
be
able
to
see
it
and
if
not,
we
can
just
go
by
voice
vote.
A
Okay,
so
you
seconded
it,
so
I
assume
that
you
would
also
vote
to
approve
it,
but
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
you.
N
B
A
Okay,
so
sir,
the
only
kind
of
issue
I
had
potentially
with
this
one
is,
it
looks
like
it's
been
approved
for
a
long
time.
B
A
Yeah
I
saw
that
it's
you
know
these
are
generally
only
supposed
to
go
for
for
three
years.
Maybe
you
know
continuance
after
that
for
a
little
bit
longer,
but
this
one's
going
on.
I
think
it
was
12
years
and
then
you're
wanting
three
more.
N
N
In
2017
he
also
had
a
couple
of
heart
attacks
and
strokes
and
he
had
kidney
failure
and
he
was
diagnosed
with
lupus
and
then
this
past
year,
his
valve
that
he
originally
got
the
variance
war.
It
it
started
to
mess
up
and
he
had
a
couple
of
heart
procedures.
But
none
of
them
worked.
So
he
had
to
have
open
heart
surgery,
and
that
was
just
like
a
month
and
a
half
ago.
A
Okay,
well,
I
I
wish
you
the
best
on
behalf
of
the
city
and
our
board.
You
know
and
you
look
healthy,
so
that's
good
to
see.
A
So
I
raised
that
issue
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
You
know.
Usually
these
are
temporary
to
last.
You
know
two
or
three
years
and
that
that
you
know
is
one
issue,
but
the
other
issue
is:
if
it's
going
to
be
something
more
permanent,
it
might
be
in
your
best
to
look
at
something
more
permanent,
so
you
don't
have
to
keep
coming
back
to
this
board.
You
can
go
to
a
different
board
and
get
something
that's
more
permanent.
B
A
Okay,
well,
I
can
tell
you
this:
I
I
can
support
the
application.
It
seems
like
it's
getting
more
and
more
justified
as
you're
kind
of
going
through
these
health
issues
and
trying
to
get
over
those,
and
so
it
seemed
like
it
was
appropriate
in
2008
and
it
seems
like
it's
more
appropriate
now
that
you're
going
to
need
that
assistance,
so
I
can
get
on
board
with
it.
A
I
might
just
recommend
to
you
to
maybe
use
this
time
if,
if
your
application's
approved
use
this
time
to
see,
if
there's
maybe
not
a
more
permanent
solution
that
you
can
have,
so
you
don't
have
to
come
here
ever
again,
you
just
get
something
that's
going
to
last
forever,
but
you
know
I
can
support
this
relief
right
now.
I
don't
know
how
the
rest
of
the
board
feels
about
it.
B
A
Okay,
I
didn't
have
anyone
else
signed
up
to
speak
I'll,
wait
a
couple
of
seconds
just
in
case
anyone
else
wanted
to
speak
or
if
there's
any
more
comments
from
the
board
and
if
not,
we've
got
a
motion.
We
can
take
a
second.
G
Are
we
I'll
second,
but
are
we
what's
the
time
period.
A
D
B
O
Yes,
I'm
kevin
reed.
I
live
at
11860
southwest
3rd
street
yukon
oklahoma
and
basically
we're
just
wanting
to
add
a
garage
beside
the
house
and
they
I
guess
we
got
a
permit
or
something
I'm
not
really
for
sure
my
contractor
did
and
then
he
came
back
and
said
it
got
denied,
and
this
is
what
we
had
to
do
to
get
approved
and
you
know:
we've
gone
through
the
neighborhood
and
taken
pictures
of
other
people's
that
have
garages
in
the
same
neighborhood.
D
A
Yeah,
this
was
one
that
I
was
looking
at
to
see
if
you
could
potentially
move
it
back
any
further.
I.
O
Got
a
swimming
pool
in
my
backyard,
but
it's
still
going
to
be
like
level
with
my
my
house
right
now,
and
the
main
thing
too
is:
I
got
three
kids
that
drive
all
living
at
home
and
we're
having
to
park
out
in
the
street.
You
know
it's
kind
of
a
congested
plus
when
we
do
park
out
in
the
street
it's
hard
for
my
neighbors
to
block
back
out
of
their
driveways.
G
A
Was
there
I
didn't,
have
anyone
else
on
the
line
that
wanted
to
speak?
Is
there
anyone
or
anyone
have
anyone
signed
up
that
was
wanting
to
speak?
Is
there
anyone
on
the
line
that
wanted
to
speak
on
this
application.
G
Yeah
I'll
move
that
we
approve
case
number
one,
four,
seven,
nine
four,
for
the
reasons
that
it
meets
the
statutory
requirements
for
the
variance.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
I
saw
one
wave
of
the
hand
if
you
wanted
to
just
it
looks
like
you're
on
mute
now,
but
feel
free
to
introduce
yourself
and
present
the
application.
L
N
L
There
out
here,
west
of
in
towards
yukon,
it's
an
oddly
shaped
lot
with
actually
on
my
screen,
a
flood
plain
in
the
back.
The
the
house
is
actually
built
up
on
a
raised
stem
wall
across
the
from
the
garage
wrapped
around,
so
it
and
there's
and
it's
prohibitive
to
be
able
to
get
anything
back
behind
the
house
because
it
severely
drops
off
towards
that
floodplain.
L
A
I
think
this
one
also
looked
like
a
unique
kind
of
parcel
there
that
only
that
limits
where
you
could
have
that,
not
necessarily
that
you
know
you
have
to
have
that,
but
in
any
event
it
is
a
peculiar
piece
of
property
there.
I
don't
have
any
objection.
I
don't
particularly
love
doing
these,
but
I
don't
have
any
objections
to
this
one
there.
Any
other
questions,
comments
or
emotion,
okay,
I'll
pause
for
a
little
bit
in
case
there's
anyone
else
on
the
line
that
wanted
to
speak
on
this
application.
A
I
A
P
Gawkins
on
the
line-
yes,
this
is
me
mh,
jeremy
dawkins,
who
worked
for
omni
hotels,
the.
D
P
P
Yes,
so
the
monument
sign
that's
on
oklahoma
city
boulevard,
because
the
building
has
such
a
far
setback.
We
have
a
monument
sign
that
sticks
out
and
it
crosses
over
the
right-of-way.
So
on
that
signage,
that's
it's
going
to
say,
omni,
hotels
on
it!
It's
for
the
pedestrian
traffic!
Coming
the
eastbound
and
westbound.
I
mean
the
vehicular
traffic
coming
eastbound
and
westbound
on
oklahoma
city
boulevard
to
identify
the
hotel.
P
So
we
per
the
ordinances,
there's
a
maximum
allowable
square
footage
and
we
are
15
square
feet
above
that
so,
but
it's
because
of
the
scale
of
the
building-
and
this
is
only
on
the
north-
face
of
the
building
because
of
the
scale
of
the
building.
You
know
we
have
to
appropriately
size
the
you
know,
omni
hotels
or
letters
so
that
they're
visible
from
either
the
highway
or
other
places
downtown.
P
So
we
ended
up
after
going
through
multiple
kind
of
designs
with
our
signage
folks,
you
know
coming
up
over
the
allowable
square
footage
that
was
by
15
square.
A
P
P
A
Okay
and
jj
just
kind
of
an
aside
question:
does
this
not
have
to
go
to
any
other
committees,
downtown
design,
review
or
anything
like
that?.
G
A
A
Through
there
that's
and
they've
recommended
they
issued
certificate
of
approval.
That's
fine,
although
I
guess
maybe
the
question
was:
don't
they
give
a
recommendation
on
the
variance
or
not
so
I
mean
it
seemed
a
little
strange
that
they
gave
a
certificate
of
approval
without
a
variance
and
now
they're
requesting
a
variance.
I.
D
A
Right,
I
don't,
I
don't
see
it,
but
I
can
support
it
assuming
you
don't.
I
just
didn't
want
you
to
have
any
procedural
holdups
later,
but
I
could
support
it.
I
think
you
kept
it
pretty
minimal.
The
request
is
pretty
minimal
and
it
makes
sense
to
me-
and
this
is
a
pretty
unique
structure,
and
so
I
kind
of
expect
some
kind
of
variance
or
or
something
here
anyway,
but
I
could
support
it,
but
I'm
only
one
board,
member,
so
board
members,
any
questions,
comments
or
emotion,.
A
D
A
D
P
M
Yeah
absolutely
yeah,
so
my
name's
zach
holland,
I'm
with
premium
land
we're
the
developers
of
the
britain
farms
edition,
which
is
a
new
home
community
and
home
construction,
started
out
there
in
january
of
this
year.
So
we're
looking
to
build
a
community
pool
and
pool
house
for
this
edition,
and
we
designed
this
common
area
after
some
nearby
developments
that
we've
been
a
couple
directly
and
some
indirectly
involved
with
and
then
going
through
the
building
permit
process
and
we've
gone
through.
Oh
three
or
four
reviews
going
over
various
issues
with
the
plan
reviewer.
M
Then
it
came
up
that
the
the
the
pool
house
and
the
pool
the
accessory
building
code
for
single
family
was
being
applied
to
it
and
that
we
would
need
to
have
these
variances
approved
to
move
forward
and
those
being
that
the
pool
which
is
is
considered
the
accessory
building
would
need
to
be
oh,
a
variance
for
it
to
be
built
in
front
of
the
rear
wall
of
the
primary
structure,
which
is
the
pool
house
for
the
pool.
M
M
M
And
so
I
think
the
hardship
would
be
this.
This
code
being
applied
to
a
community
pool
and
pool
house
is
what
is
what
makes
this
difficult
and
what
we
haven't
seen
being
involved
in
these
projects
in
the
past.
A
If
not,
I
think
we
will
entertain
a
motion
and
this
will
be
for
all
the
variances
or
certainly
make
a
motion
for
any
one
or
two
or
three
or
whatever.
But
there
are
several
requests
so
we'll
want
to
make
sure
that
the
motion
includes
all
those.
F
A
Okay,
we've
got
a
motion
that
a
second
to
approve
the
variance
requests
in
case
number,
one:
four,
seven:
nine:
seven,
the
reason
that
they
meet
the
statutory
conditions
for
very
fast.
Please.
D
Q
Yes,
this
is
ken
fitzsimmons
at
1228,
northwest
36th
street.
Q
Yes,
my
client,
josh
livingston
is
the
owner
of
this
building
and
it's
a
building
that
was
built
in
the
1930s
and
it's
pretty
pretty
much
the
same
as
the
other
buildings
on
that
street,
in
the
sense
that
there
are
no
places
to
physically
park
on
site,
because
the
buildings
for
the
most
part
are
built
right
up
to
the
property
lines
and
for
now
you
know,
josh
is
using
this
building
for
his
personal
company
to
you,
know
fabricate
and
there's
not
much
traffic
there
or
anything
like
that,
and
so
there's
not
been
any
issues
and
he's
just
thinking
in
terms
of
a
in
the
future
for
viability.
Q
If
you
wanted
to
use
this
building
for
something
else
and
change,
the
use
which
would
may
require
that
it
also
meet
current
parking
requirements,
and
it's
just
physically
impossible
to
do
so.
So
that's
the
nature
of
the
request
is
to
see
if
we
can
take
away
the
requirements
to
have
on-site
parking
to
make
the
building
usable
in
the
future.
Q
Well,
it
would
depend
on
the
use.
You
know,
of
course,
if
it's
a
warehouse,
it's
not
very
much
compared
to
say
you
know
a
bar
restaurant,
which
would
be
at
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum.
Q
A
And
I
kind
of
was
wondering
for
the
current
use
and
potentially
proposed
uses
or
potential
uses,
but
definitely
for
the
current
use.
Yeah
from.
B
A
Q
True,
but
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
is
that,
and
I'm
sure,
you'll
probably
have
concerns
from
other
building
owners
in
the
areas
that,
like
a
lot
of
other
downtown
areas
where
parking
has
been
exempted,
the
downtown
parking
overlay.
I
think
that's
that
that
would
be.
Q
The
hope
is
that
that
sort
of
a
overlay
or
if
it's
done
variants
prop
one
property
at
a
time
that
that
could
be
considered,
because
the
as
oklahoma
city
obviously
continues
to
to
fill
up
in
the
downtown
core,
it's
starting
to
move
to
the
west
a
little
bit
and
not
thinking
that
this
is
an
immediate
thing,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
be
able
to
see
these
old
buildings
in
that
area
re-adapted
and
continue
to
be
used.
Even
if
it's
not
for
their
original
warehouse
purposes,
they
really
are.
Q
It
really
isn't
an
interesting
and
nice
street
to
be
on.
It's
got
this
really
unique
kind
of
feel
for
oklahoma
city
when
you're
down
in
that
industrial
area.
It's
it
reminds
you
of
some
urban
places
that
you
might
see
in
other
cities,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
see
maybe
that,
eventually
that
it
could
become
something
that
who
knows
maybe
a
district
unto
itself.
A
Yeah,
it's
a
great
area
very
familiar
with
the
area
and
want
to
see
these
these
old
buildings
get
reused.
From
my
perspective
on
this
board,
my
concern
is
just
giving
a
blanket
variants
for
any
parking
requirements.
A
Unless
the
council
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
a
city
council
thing
or
a
planning
commission
thing,
but
for
our
purposes
I
always
like
to
know
exactly
how
many
parking
spaces
we're
varying
and
I
don't
feel
comfortable
with
with
having
no
parking
requirement
at
all.
I
understand
that
helps
your
flexibility
for
future
uses,
but
my
purpose
is
I'd.
I'd
prefer
to
give
you
a
variance
for
the
parking
spaces
that,
based
on
the
current
use,
so
whatever
that
is
we
contemplate
that,
but
for
any
uses.
Q
R
The
the
difficulty
here
is
that
in
the
here
and
now,
obviously
the
building
was
built
in
compliance
and
then,
as
the
city
changed
fell
out
of
compliance
in
that
the
cbd
district
ends
at
western,
even
though
really
the
mile
from
western
to
pennsylvania
along
linwood,
most
of
the
northern
portion
of
that
you
know,
say
from
northwest
3rd
through
linwood
was
built
during
the
same
time
period
and
in
the
exact
same
sort
of
method
as
the
central
business
district,
but
as
the
west
side
became
less
popular
after
the
ceasing
of
use
of
the
interurban
railcar
that
used
to
go
to
ellison
university,
now
ocu
up
virginia.
R
R
Now,
while
we're
not
trying
to
build
a
nightclub
or
something
over
there,
we
literally
have
zero
availability
for
parking
and
the
city
that
those
blocks
over
there
are
identical
to
any
other
block
in
downtown
oklahoma
city.
There's
we
don't
have
houses,
we
don't
have
houses
around
there.
We
don't
have
you
know
kids
waiting
at
bus
stops.
R
It's
it's
an
industrial
urban
city
block
so
make
a
lot
more
sense,
for
you
know
something
long
term
to
be
worked
out
with
city
council
to
kind
of
do
an
overlay
in
the
area,
but
I
can't
even
pull
a
permit
right
now
to
add.
You
know
a
couple
of
office,
spaces
or
bathrooms
inside
my
warehouse,
because
the
current
use
is,
you
know,
warehouse
warehouse,
industrial
we'd
be
required
today
to
have
probably
11
or
12
parking
spaces
for
every
200
square
feet
of
office.
Space
I'd
like
to
add
inside
I'd,
have
to
add
another
parking
space.
R
You
tell
me
where,
as
a
board,
you
guys
draw
the
line
on
a
comfort
zone,
but
in
terms
of
what
we
can
get,
but
as
of
right
now
we're
wanting
to
do
some
office
improvements
inside
wanting
to
add
some
office
space
to
the
area.
We
need
to
run
new
sewer
lines
because
they're
all
old.
We
need
to
build
three
new
88
bathrooms,
so
we've
got
100
some
thousand
dollars
worth
of
improvement
work.
We
need
to
do
that.
R
We
really
can't
even
get
a
permit
to
do
currently
because
we
would
be
out
of
step
with
the
parking
requirement.
So
I'd
be
agreeable
to
any
kind
of
you
know,
relief
based
on
the
facts
here
and
you
know
obviously
10
years
down
the
road.
If
this
became
some
kind
of
entertainment
area
and
we
wanted
to
do
something
retail
oriented,
then
you
know
that
would
you
know
I
would
be
understandable.
R
R
We've
got,
I
guess,
depending
on
how
the
city
wants
to
look
at
it.
We've
got
17
000
square
feet
there
12
000
square
feet,
depending
on
whether
you
include
the
office
portion
next
door.
So
we
put
a
bunch
of
offices
in
there.
Like
I
said
you
know,
we
need
close
to
60
spaces
if
it's
left,
as
is
now
we're
required
to
have
12
spaces,
but
we
can't
even
provide
12..
So
we
do
have
the
event
we
do
have
the
abandoned
our
building.
R
R
R
You
know
just
like
all
the
other
buildings
on
the
street.
Everybody
just
uses
street
parking.
A
I
guess
that
was
going
to
be.
My
question
is
assuming
this
is
going
to
be
some
kind
of
office
use.
Where
is
everyone
going
to
park.
R
R
A
R
I'll
tell
you
what
it
I
wish
I
was
applying
for
that
right
now,
if
I
had
a
tenant
for
it,
this
area
needs
that
kind
of
stuff,
because
without
more
foot
traffic,
we're
losing
our
city
to
homeless
people
right
now-
and
I
mean
obviously
we're
all
as
a
neighborhood
working
with
all
the
appropriate
other
city
agencies.
R
If
you
get
a
brewery
applying
in
this
neighborhood,
please
please
approve
it.
I'd
much
rather
see
200
people
walking
down
the
street
or
riding
a
scooter
or
ubering
over
to
the
area
and
bringing
us
much
needed
foot
traffic,
because
if
we
are
going
to
wait
for
parking
lots
to
approve
better
uses,
then
we
might
as
well
wait
for
the
next
generation,
but
anyway,.
O
D
A
I'm
just
kind
of
if
we're
granting
a
variance,
normally
it's
getting
granted
forever.
So
I'm
trying
to
think
of
all
contingencies
and
also
trying
to
get
something.
That's
going
to
give
you
the
relief
that
you
want
without
causing
problems
with
traffic
parking
pedestrians,
your
neighbors
getting
mad
because
their
your
patrons
are
parking
in
their
lots.
You
know
all
that
stuff
kind.
A
But
I
do
want
you
to
be
able
to
pull
permits.
I
mean
that
makes
sense
to
me.
So
you
know
I
could
get
on
board
with
a
specific
number
of
parking
spaces
that
we
could
vary.
A
So
I
don't
know
what
the
board
feels
like
and
what
would
be
helpful
to
you,
but
you
know
20
to
30,
potentially
more
whatever
the
board
thinks,
but
you
know
I
could
get
on
board
with
varying
that
much
and
then
you
could
at
least
work
with
that,
and
if
you
needed
more
at
some
point,
then
you
could
come
back
and
we
can
talk
about
it.
I
mean
I
don't
want
you
to
have
to
keep
coming
back
here.
I
want
you
to
be
able
to
develop
how
you
need
to
develop
as
quickly
as
you.
E
E
D
A
And
the
applicant
mentioned
it,
but
you
know
he
the
the
fact
is
he's
just
not,
and
so
we're
stuck
with
trying
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
it.
Now
that
he's
not
and
maybe
someday
what
maybe
he
should
have
been
included,
but
you
know
he's
not
so
I'm
just
trying
to
think
through.
You
know,
particularly
what
I
have
in
mind
is
that
condition
that
we
have
to
meet
by
statute
that
it's
the
least
extent
of
the
variance
that's
necessary
to
give
him
relief.
G
G
We
need
something
to
work
with,
and
so,
unfortunately,
you
may
have
to
come
back
one
more
time
if
we,
if
we
approve
for
a
certain
number,
if
you
have
a
specific
plan
for
a
brewery,
for
example,
and-
and
you
know,
for
you
know
certain
how
much
more
of
a
variance
you
need.
R
Yeah,
I
would
my
I
can
give
you
a
very
specific
answer.
I
don't
want
to
sound
like
I'm
vague
I've
owned.
The
building
for
excuse
me,
kobet
doesn't
want
to
go
away
quickly.
R
I
I
have
owned
the
building
for
six
years
and
went
from
using
it
from
storage
to
active
fabrication
to
now
trying
to
convert
it
to
office
because
we're
outgrowing
our
buildings
on
virginia
main
street,
where
our
our
company's
headquarters
is.
This
has
been
an
additional
support
facility.
R
We
now
need
to
move
employees
down
there,
and
so
we
need
to
spend
some
money
on
some
of
these
sewer
and
bathroom
improvements
and
office
build
out
so
that
we
can
convert
it
from
being
an
old
forgotten
industrial
building
to
something
where
employees
can
park
on
the
street,
walk
in
and
go
to
work
like
they
do
on
automobile
alley.
So
right
now
our
plans.
R
Excuse
me
right
now.
Our
plans
are
to
probably
progress,
starting
with
about
2
000
square
feet
and
probably
eventually
more
like
6
000
square
feet
of
office
space.
So
if
I
went
on
the
upper
end
of
that
6
000
square
feet,
I
would
have
to
put
in
30
parking
spaces
for
the
office
portion,
and
then
I
would
still
owe
4.5
spaces
for
the
area
being
used
for
storage.
You
could
turn
that
into.
I
guess
12
spaces
if
we
were
going
to
call
that
fabrication.
R
So
to
answer
your
question,
what
would
get
my
personal
company's
needs
would
be
something
around
40
or
45,
and
I
wouldn't
have
to
come
back.
You
know
for
my
company's
purposes,
probably
anytime.
Now,
like
I
said
earlier,
you
know
if
I
had
someone
knock
on
my
door
was
interested
in
the
area
and
I
had
another
building.
I
could
move
my
company
to
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
come
back
and
try
to
sell
you
guys
on.
Let
me
put
a
brewery
here
and
take
the
exemption
away
all
together.
R
I
think
what
probably
makes
the
most
sense
for
our
neighborhood,
because
we
have
so
many
people
in
the
city
council
planning,
commission
that
love
the
linwood
area
and
they
want
to
see
this
investment
continue.
I
think
what
makes
long-term
sense
for
us
as
a
neighborhood
is
to
district
ourselves
together
and
you
know,
go
for
something
like
we
did
down
by
the
river
like
a
scenic
river
overlay
down
in
the
farmers
market,
where
I
own
some
buildings.
R
The
scenic
river
overlay
removes
the
parking
requirement,
and
that
was
a
concerted
effort
to
target
a
certain
area
that
was
near
the
cbd,
something
like
that
is
probably
the
right
long-term
solution,
because
I'm
not
the
only
guy
that's
dealing
with
this.
But
to
answer
your
question
for
me
to
go:
pull
a
permit
for
five
or
six
thousand
square
foot
of
office
space
within
this
warehouse
I
would
need
close
to
40
spaces.
So
if
you
want
a
number
that
would
work
for
me
over
the
next
five
years,
there's
that's
a
number
to
consider.
A
That's
kind
of
what
I
had
in
mind
on
the
upper
end.
I
think
you
can
get
that
down
by
you,
know:
bike
racks
and
potentially
bike
racks
and
landscaping,
and
things
like
that
get
that
down
a
little
bit,
but
that
40
was
about
the
upper
end
of
what
I
had
in
mind
that
got
you
the
relief
that
you
needed,
but
also
alleviated.
My
longer
term
concerns
so.
R
And
hey
I'll
tell
you
just
because
it
says
40,
I
can
tell
you
that
the
chances
of
40
people
pulling
up
and
parking
there
in
the
next
five
years
is
probably
less
than
five
percent,
because,
like
right
now
we're
going
to
move
about
15
20
people
over
there
over
the
next
year.
A
And
I
will
note
I
won't
get
into
your
health
conditions,
I'll
just
assume
that
you
were
joking
about
the
coven
point,
but
the
city's
talking
well.
The
state
exemption
for
the
open
meetings
act
is
expiring
soon.
So
unless
something
happens
going
back
to
in-person
meetings-
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
example
of
a
way
that
you
know,
assuming
you
had
a
diagnosis-
we're
not
going
to
get
into
it.
R
R
A
Just
all
all
indicators
point
toward
keeping
this
going,
but,
and
hopefully
something
gets
sorted
out
to
where
that
can
happen.
I
know
that
other
boards
are
having
some
issues
with
the
this
platform,
but
it's
been
pretty
smooth
sailing
for
us,
so
I'd
like
to
see
it
continue,
and
this
is
a
good
example
of
an
application
where
it
makes
sense
to
have
this
remotely,
because
now
you
can
continue
on
with
your
with
your
development.
D
A
S
Yeah,
I'm
lynn
smith
at
37.00,
north
northwest
52nd
street,
my
husband
and
I
live
next
door
at
3704
northwest
52nd
street,
and
we
would
like
to
do
home
sharing
at
the
house
at
3708.
S
We
purchased
that
earlier
this
year
from
my
neighbor,
who
grew
up
in
that
home
when
she
was
younger,
moved
away
and
then
came
back
to
live
there
as
a
an
adult
and
for
health
reasons
she
had
to
leave,
and
we
saw
this
as
an
opportunity
to
do
something
fun
with
kind
of
our
future
retirement
plans
and
have
a
space
for
our
family
that
live
out
of
town
to
stay.
S
You
know
they
can
be
close,
but
not
too
close
and
all
up
in
our
business.
So
we're
excited
to
you
know,
have
this
opportunity
and
need
the
variance,
because
it's
not
our
primary
home.
We
just
live
next
door.
A
S
Well,
we
would
like
to
offer
it
with
the
driveway
that
you
see
there
it's
a
two
car
driveway
and
then
there
is
off
street
parking.
I
sometimes
you
know
we
have
to
park
in
the
street
ourselves,
so
we
would
prefer
to
be
able
to
have
the
driveway
be
used
for
our
guests,
while
they're
staying
at
the
at
the
house.
A
A
I
know
one
that
we
will
get
at
point
if
not
now
than
when
the
motion
comes,
but
we
can
do
this
for
up
to
10
years
and
we
have
never
granted
one
for
10
years.
S
Oh
well,
I
mean
I've
lived
at
the
house
next
door
for
12
years
now
and
we
don't
plan
on
moving
ever
and
so
you
know,
I
think
we
would
prefer
to
have
10
years,
but
you
know
if
that's
not
what
the
board
is
comfortable
with
I'm
happy
to
come
back.
A
I
was
thinking
three
ish,
a
board
member
could
twist
my
arm
to
go
a
little
bit
longer
if
needed
or
shorter.
I
guess
if
they,
if
needed,
but
that's
kind
of
where
I
was.
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
the
board.
G
A
Okay,
just
for
procedural
purposes,
for
the
municipal
counselor
I'll
make
sure
that
we
make
sure
that
there's
no
one
else
that
wanted
to
speak
on
this
matter
before
we
actually.
Oh.
A
Okay,
I
don't
have
anyone
signed
up,
so
it's
so
it's
fine!
I'm
just
going
to
confirm.
A
Okay
hearing
none
we've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
a
special
exception
in
case
number
14792.
For
the
reason
it
meets
the
statutory
conditions
for
special
exception
for
a
period
of
three
years
and
on
the
condition
that
the
advertisement
will
say
that
there's
only
off
street
parking,
no
on-street
parking.
H
I
Item
8
case
14
793
is
an
application
for
special
exception
of
melissa,
graham
to
allow
home
sharing
in
the
hp
district
located
at
320
northwest
21st
street,
and
this
went
to
the
hp
commission.
They
didn't
necessarily
make
a
recommendation
of
approval
or
denial,
but
they
sent
a
some
findings
and
I
believe
we
got
those
to
you
in
an
email.
A
I
did
receive
those-
I
guess
we'll
start
with
mrs
graham
or
the
representative
if
they
were
on
the
line.
T
A
Really
quickly,
so
you
live
at
this
residence.
Is
that
correct.
T
I
do
yes
and
it's
a
space
in
my
garage
next
to
my
garage
that
is
a
studio
apartment
and
then
I
have
a
large
patio
area.
T
Oh
there,
you
can
see
some
pictures
and
I
use
it
for
when
a
guest,
my
guests
come
in
town
or
I
also
have
a
college
student
who
sometimes
I
would
rather
him
stay
out
there,
but
then,
when
I'm
not
using
it,
for
that,
I
advertise
it
on
airbnb
and
I've
been
very
busy.
I
have
out
of,
I
think
68
reviews.
Now
I
have
all
five
stars.
A
Let
me
stop
really
quickly
you're
going
to
hate
me,
but
I
just
want
to
understand.
Procedurally
what
was
going
on
the
first
time
I
interrupted.
You
was
just
to
confirm
your
address
for
the
purposes
of
the
record.
Okay,.
A
The
second
thing
just
to
get
the
procedural
aspect
of
this.
In
my
mind,
you
were
issued
a
license
last
year.
Is
that
correct.
T
T
Right
but
well
they
they
gave
me
the
permit,
but
then
I
got
an
email
in
either
march
or
april.
That
said
that
they
accidentally
gave
it
to
me
without
going
up
against
the
board
of
adjustments,
so
that
when
I
that
my
permit
was
still
valid
for
the
year,
but
when
I
renewed,
I
would
need
to
go
through
this
process
as
well.
A
Because
this
year
they
did
not
the
reason
I
asked
all
this
is.
They
did
not
take
a
position
this
year,
which
was
unusual
and
makes
me
wonder
what
happened
last
year.
Maybe
they
did
the
same
thing
last
year
I
don't
know,
I
couldn't
find
it
and
I
couldn't.
I
couldn't
watch
the
proceedings.
I
tried
to
watch
the
proceedings
earlier
and
it
cuts
off
after
a
couple
of
minutes,
so
I
don't
know
just
trying
to
get
up
to
speed.
T
Last
year
I
went
down
to
the
the
city
offices
on
the
8th
and
9th
floor
and
filled
out
all
the
home
sharing
paperwork.
It
was.
I
went
to
the
eighth
floor
I
paid
or
then
they
sent
me
up
to
the
ninth
floor.
T
They
signed
off
on
it,
sent
me
back
down
to
the
eighth
floor
and
gave
me
my
permit
and
had
me
pay
twenty
five
dollars,
and
I
think
I
think
they
accidentally
gave
me
they
just
accidentally
gave
me
the
permit
for
home
sharing
without
moving
it
forward
to
this
board.
A
Okay,
yeah,
that
makes
sense
to
me.
You
know
mistakes
happen,
I'm
just
trying
to
try
to
understand
kind
of
what
happened
and
in
particular,
try
to
understand
what
hp's
conclusion
was
both
last
year
and
this
year.
But
it
sounds
like
we
don't
quite
know.
Last
year
and
this
year
there
was
no
recommendation,
one
way
or
the
other
so
which
is
fine.
We
could
still
proceed.
A
T
I
have
been
operating
the
airbnb
for
a
year
now
and
have
not
had
any
complaints
from
neighbors
or
anything.
In
fact,
I
believe
cassie
poor
sent
in
a
letter.
I
know
she
copied
cindy
on
that,
but
I
don't
know
if
cindy
has
it
available
to
where
my
neighbors
sent
in
a
letter
asking
that
it
be
approved
and
that
they
feel
it's
good
for
the
neighborhood.
T
And
there
it
is
right
there
do
you
want
me
to
give
y'all
some
time
to
read,
read
that.
A
We've
received
that
I
it
was
a
bit
unusual,
you
know.
Normally
we
get
the
opposite
kinds
of
letters
in
hp
for
home
sharing,
so.
C
A
And
miss
graham,
if
you
wanted
to
continue,
feel
free,
but
really
just
getting
to
it.
Looked
like
you
know
the
number
of
people
that
you
were
hoping
to
have
there
that
it's
advertised
to
have
the
parking
things
like
that.
T
I
only
it
only
sleeps
too,
and
if
they
bring
a
baby
like
an
infant
that
just
is,
is
not
mobile
and
and
their
own
pack
and
play.
Then
then
that's
fine.
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
that,
but
it
is
really
just
most
of
my
clients
are
the
customers
are
either
single
one
person
or
two
I've
only
had
two,
maybe
two
babies
there
the
whole
time
I
never.
I
don't
have
space
for
any
more
than
two
adults.
A
T
Yes,
it
is,
and
I
actually
recently
I've
had
a
lot
of
cross-country
travelers
that
are
moving
and
their
vehicles
are
pretty
full
of.
You
know
personal
belongings
and
so
a
lot
of
times.
I
just
let
them
park
park
by
the
space.
They
go
down
the
driveway
and
park
right
next
to
my
car,
but
it's
a
tight.
T
You
know
that
that
area,
the
driveways
are
pretty
tight,
so
I'm
hesitant
to
you
know,
let
everybody
do
that
because
I
don't
really
know
how
they
drive,
but
if
they
ask
and-
and
I
have
a
talk
with
them
or
you
know
once
they
see
the
driveway,
then
a
lot
of
times
I'll-
let
them
park
in
the
back
as
well.
A
I
guess
I
saw
that
ms
frittle
joined
the
meeting,
so
if
you
have
any
comments
before
we
continue
feel
free.
E
Mr
merchant,
this
is
cindy
when
the
application
came
in
last
year.
I
don't
believe
that
she
was
sent
to
hp.
I
think
we
signed
off
on
it
in
error
and
she
was
issued
a
permit
and
then
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
by
the
neighbors,
and
so
we
looked
into
it
and
she
needed
to
come
back
and
go
through
this
process
and
that's
where
she
is.
E
C
N
G
H
Wasn't
letting
connect
call
in
by
phone,
and
so
sorry
about
that?
I
I
could
hear
some
of
the
discussion.
This
is
the
first
time
that
this
application
went
to
hp.
As
fendi
said
it
was
approved
for
home
sharing
previously,
and
I
guess
they
didn't
catch
that
it
was
in
hp
and
it
didn't
get
routed
to
us
for
review.
So
last
night's
hp,
commission
meeting
was
the
first
time
the
commission
had
seen
this
request.
H
H
So
the
commission
took
kind
of
a
neutral
position
that
the
property
appeared
to
meet
the
requirements
for
home
sharing
but
kind
of
deferred
to
board
of
adjustment
on
the
variant
and
whether
it
met
the
conditions
and
requirements
to
qualify
for
the
variants
that
had
been
identified.
A
Okay,
I
always
like
to
have
the
recommendations,
and
I
did
some
digging
before
the
meeting
to
see
if
it
was
required.
A
recommendation
was
required.
A
I
know
various
boards
commissions
advanced
applications
without
a
recommendation,
a
lot
planning
commission's,
probably
the
top
offender.
But
to
me
I
I
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
procedurally
impact
the
applicant.
A
I
think
what
I
saw
says
that
hp
may
issue
recommendations
to
the
board
of
adjustment,
but
I
couldn't
track
down
the
exact
thing
that
said
these
home
sharing
applications
go
to
hp
first
and
then
go
to
board
of
adjustment
and
and
how
strict
that
recommendation
requirement
is.
Do
you
know
off
the
top
of
your
head.
H
A
A
From
what
I
saw
it
said
may,
and
so
it
wasn't
like
a
shall
that
says
that
hp
shall
so
so
I'm
comfortable
with
it.
I
think
it
just
kind
of
theoretically
and
academically
gives
more
power
to
the
board
of
adjustment,
which
I
wouldn't
think
he
would.
H
Hp
commission
has
forwarded
comments
of
this
nature,
a
time
or
two
before
when
and
typically
it's
been
on
a
case
where
they
were
able
to
say
from
a
historic
preservation
perspective.
This
has
no
adverse
effect
on
the
historic
integrity
of
the
district.
There's
nothing
that
would
be
of
concern
to
the
hp
commission,
but
we
know
there
may
be
non-hp
related
concerns
from
other
bodies
from
neighbors
from
residents.
H
So
it's
not
appropriate
for
us
to
say
yes
approve
it
as
if
we
don't
care
about
those
other
concerns,
but
we're
saying
from
hp's
consideration.
There
are
no
concerns
here
to
be
voiced.
That
makes
more
sense.
A
Sure,
before
we
move
on
did
you
I
didn't
have
anything
else
for
you.
Did
you
have
anything
else
that
you
wanted
to
say.
A
And
the
board
members
any
questions
of
ms
frittle
before
we
move
on.
A
People
usually
use
one
car.
I
would
prefer
just
given
this
area
and
given
the
limited
space
and
given
that
it's
probably
going
to
be
on
street
parking
if
we
advertised
it
as
one
vehicle
and
obviously
we
have
enforcement
issues
there.
If
they
come
with
two
vehicles,
you
know
one
guest
once
a
year
comes
with
two
vehicles.
What
are
we
going
to
do
about
it?
I
know
they're
enforcement
issues,
but
if
it's
advertised
as
such,
I
think
it
has
a
deterrent
effect,
and
so
would
that
impact
your
application
substantially.
T
I
feel
that
there's
going
to
be
no
way
of
me
enforcing
it
and
I
have
not
had
I
I
don't,
I
think
out
of
70
people
or
you
know,
bookings
so
far,
70
75
bookings.
T
I
think
I've
only
had
a
guest
park
in
front
of
somebody
else's
house,
maybe
once
and
it
was
because
of
laziness
not
really
because
my
my
place
was
not
available.
So
I
I
kind
of
feel
like
that's
unenforceable
for
me,
and
I
don't
even
I
mean
I
I
could
do
that.
But
I
I
don't
really
know
if
it's
going
to.
A
T
Mean
one
thing
you
know:
I'm
very,
I
know
you
you
want
this.
You
know
through
the
through
recorded
means,
but
I
don't
want
people
parking
in
front
of
my
neighbor's
houses
that
bothers
me
when
you
know
people
park
in
front
of
mine
for
the
you
know
five
days
straight,
and
so
I'm
very
careful
about
being
courteous
to
my
neighbors.
T
If
somebody
did
come
with
two
cars,
I
would
probably
recommend
anyway
that
one
of
them
moved
back
to
the
back
and
parked
next
to
me
just
so
that
there's
not
two
cars
right
out
front,
but
then
again,
if
I'm
entertaining
I
mean-
and
I
don't
even
have
anybody
in
the
bnb-
I
could
have
two
cars
out
front
because
there
there's
two
cars,
there's
two
slots
or
there's
enough
room
for
two
vehicles
in
front
of
my
house.
T
A
Yeah,
no
it's,
as
we
said
in
the
last
application,
parking
tends
to
be
one
of
the
top
concerns
and
things.
So
you
know
these
are
already
literally
special
exceptions
right
that
these
aren't
supposed
to
be
allowed
and
what
we
are
tasked
with
is
trying
to
find
a
way
to
where
it's
appropriate
limit
the
impact-
and
you
know
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
we
just
go
through
this.
I'm
not
saying
there
will
be
a
a
restriction.
A
D
A
T
Since
the
perm,
the
issue
with
the
permit,
where
I
got
it
last
year
and
I've
already
been
operating
for
a
year,
can
I
ask
you,
have
you
did
you?
Have
anybody
respond
that
had?
T
That
does
not
want
me
to
have
the
permit,
or
that
has
concerns
about
it
being
approved
by
the
board.
I
think
that
will
speak
volumes
for.
Is
there
a
problem
with
my
guests
parking?
Did
you
guys
receive
any
complaints
or
any
responses
from
my
neighbors
saying
that
they
did
not
want
me
to
get
the
permit
yeah.
A
We've
received
no
protest,
letters,
complaints,
anything
like
that
on
this
application,
which
and
you're
right
and
you're.
That's
a
that's
a
great
point
in
your
favor,
which
is
you've
operated
it
for
a
while,
and
we
haven't
had
any
issues.
Apparently
someone
found
out
and
then
formed
the
city
and
that's
how
we
got
here
in
the
first
place,
but
it
didn't
it
didn't
materialize
into
a
protest
or
anything
like
that.
So
well,.
T
A
H
A
And
it's
you
know:
you're
not
permitted
correctly.
You
know,
you're
gonna
have
some
serious
issues
so
you're
right.
We
need
to
get
this
done.
The
right
way
board
members
any
questions
or
comments.
A
Okay,
I
was
thinking
just
kind
of
the
based
on
the
unusual
nature
of
this
application.
I
was
thinking
two
to
three
years
hp.
I
think
the
longest
we've
done
is
is
probably
three,
but
it's
it.
D
A
It
didn't
go
through
the
analysis.
The
first
time
with
hp
hp
didn't
give
a
recommendation
in
favor
of
it.
They
just
gave
a
neutral
recommendation
to
us.
It's
just
kind
of
an
unusual
application
that
I'm
not
really
comfortable
doing
for
a
long
period
of
time.
So
I
was
thinking
two
to
three
years,
but
I
am
also
only
one
board
member
and
can
be
outvoted
relatively
easily
still.
F
I'll,
second,
for
three
years,
with
the
conditions
that
it
makes
reach
the
requirements
of
a
variance.
A
We've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
special
exception
and
variance
in
case
number
one,
four,
seven,
nine
three
for
the
reason
that
the
application
meets
the
conditions
for
a
special
exception
in
the
variance
for
a
period
of
three
years,
once
you're
able
to
cast
your
votes
and
the
applications
approved.
I
I
I'll
just
read
the
two
together
item:
nine
and
ten
case:
14
801
and
14
802
our
request
for
application
of
the
continuum
continental
investments
to
allow
home
sharing
at
3521,
northwest
22nd
and
3529
northwest
22nd
street
and
aaron
farazon
is
the
applicant.
A
In
2008,
okay,
the
applicant
ready
to
give
the
presentation.
J
Yes,
my
name
is
aaron
farrison,
I'm
representing
continental
investments,
we're
wanting
to
get
a
special
exception
to
allow
short-term
rentals
on
the
properties.
Sir.
J
Oh
906,
east
comanche
street
in
the
subject
properties,
3521,
northwest
22nd
administration
and
3529
northwest
22nd.
J
Yes,
sir,
but
we're
wanting
to
get
a
special
exception
to
allow
short-term
rentals
we've
got
adequate
parking
for
both
locations.
J
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
the
parking
it's
a
bit
about
three
cars,
we're
gonna,
allow
eight
to
ten
guests
at
35
21
and
then
we're
going
to
allow
eight
guests
at
35.
29
we're
going
to
have
rules
in
place
to
regulate
the
parties
and
noises
continental
investments
actually
owns.
Most
of
that
block.
J
A
There's
been
a
change
in
the
presentation
today
versus
what's
in
the
application
and
the
application,
I
saw
up
to
12.
J
Oh
yeah,
we
actually
had
to
knock
that
down
a
little
bit
so
it'll
be
it'll,
be
eight
to
ten.
A
Okay,
how
many
bedrooms,
let's
we'll
start
with
the
first
application.
J
J
Right,
yeah
the
plan's
not
to
allow
any
parties
just
if
we
have
multiple
occupants.
We
don't
even
plan
on
having
that
many
at
a
time,
but
we
just
wanted
the
option
to
sleep.
A
large
family.
A
U
Sorry,
we've
got
kiddos
my
name's
erin,
also
aaron
case
ferrison,
so
I
I
can
see
where
that
concern
might
be
stem
from,
but
with
short-term
rentals,
we're
actually
going
to
be
able
to
maintain
the
neighborhood
and
property
better
clark.
The
owner
of
continental
investments,
purchased
the
block
about
four
years
ago
and
has
been
spending
a
lot
of
time,
money
and
effort
in
beautifying
the
neighborhood
one
remodel
at
a
time
we
do
have
a
actually
the
unit
between
these
two
is
a
long-term
tenant
of
his.
U
She
is
very
conscious
of
the
neighborhood
and
the
goings-ons,
and
so
there
will
be
eyes
there.
If
there
is
an
issue,
my
husband
and
I
are
less
than
30
minutes
from
the
property
to
address
it
personally.
U
But
the
short-term
rental
allows
us
to
really
have
control
of
the
unit
we'll
be
in
it
multiple
times
a
week
versus
a
long-term
tenant
which
could
do
damage
to
the
property
in
the
area
and
really
drive
property
values
down
in
the
area.
So
I
can
understand
the
concern,
but
short-term
rentals
gives
us
a
lot
more
control
over
the
property
versus
a
long-term
tenant,
which
is
what
has
been
in
that
area
from
this
time.
Up
until
this
time,.
A
U
P
U
D
U
This
one
looks
pretty
much
the
same
on
the
outside
that
you
have
pulled
up,
but
the
other
unit
has
completely
been
refaced
and
the
interiors
are
being
remodeled
as
well
new
windows
throughout.
Yes,
that's
been
completely
refaced.
A
A
A
A
Probably
the
primary
concern
for
me
is
that
you
guys,
apparently
own
the
whole
block
and
converted
these
from
potentially
long-term
tenants.
You've
got
a
long-term
tenant
in
between
them
when
that
lease
expires,
or
is
that
one
going
to
become
home
sharing
is
the
whole
block
going
to
become
home
sharing.
A
That's
exactly
what
the
city
council
wanted
to
prevent
was
huge
districts
that
used
to
be
neighborhoods
turned
into
airbnb
neighborhoods,
and
you
no
longer
have
a
neighborhood.
You
have,
I
don't
even
know
what
they
are,
but
essentially
kind
of
a
spaced
out
hotel
situation
with
a
bunch
of
short-term
tenants,
and
so
that's
my
major
concern
with
that.
A
B
U
Our
focus
here
today
is
just
these
two
units
at
this
time.
There
are
no
further
plans
for
this
block
there
in
fact
he's
working
on
one
at
the
end
of
the
block.
I
don't
know
the
street
number
for
a
long-term
tenant
that
he
already
has
in
mind.
He's
been
a
a
landlord
for
many
years.
Has
many
units
throughout
the
metro,
and
these
at
this
time
are
the
only
two
airbnbs
out
of
his
portfolio
of
over
200
units.
U
A
Yeah,
I
understand
it
just
concerns
me
that
you-
and
if
I
own
these
properties,
I
would
be
thinking
the
same
thing,
but
you
already
mentioned
it's
a
lot
easier
and
a
lot
less
destructive
on
the
property
to
have
these
short-term
tenants
that
are
in
and
out
their
ratings
depend
on
them,
treating
your
property
with
care.
A
You
get
credits
in
there
for
three
four
five
years.
You've
got
to
read
the
whole
place
because
they
and
and
and
so
that
incentivizes
you
plus
the
financial
incentive
potentially
of
doing
short-term
rental.
You
might
start
seeing
the
money
rolling
on
those
more
than
your
long-term
leases
and
want
to
do
more.
So
for
your
purposes,
I
totally
understand
for
our
purposes
on
the
city
level.
A
I
just
think
we
proceed
with
caution
on
on
home
sharing
in
general,
it
was
very
difficult
to
even
get
home
sharing
in
oklahoma
city.
There
were
a
lot
of
people
that
wanted
it
banned
altogether,
like
some
cities
have
done,
and
the
fact
that
the
city
council
approved
it
but
made
you
jump
through
so
many
hoops
to
have
it
makes
me
think
they
wanted
it
to
be
rare
and
sporadic.
A
F
U
We
there
are
potential
plans
to
put
a
bathroom
in
the
garage
at
this
time.
Obviously,
permits
have
not
been
pulled,
nor
has
any
construction
been
done,
but
the
idea
is
that
those
are
large
bedrooms.
There
will
be
a
king
over
what
is
the
dining
room.
So
if
you're
looking
at
the
screen
on
your
right
side
with
a
day
bed
so
that
a
child
could
stay
in
that
room,
so
it
would
then
sleep
three.
U
Instead
of
the
two,
the
middle
room
will
have
bunk
beds
in
it
for
similar
reasons,
because
of
the
season.
We're
in
many
families
are
gathering
together
at
airbnbs
for
the
holidays
and
for
big
events,
because
they
can't
really
go
and
do
like
they
used
to,
and
so
our
idea
here
was
to
create
a
space
to
gather
in
a
wholesome
way,
not
necessarily
to
advertise
to
bachelorette
parties
or
somebody
running
up
and
down.
D
A
A
Okay,
I
didn't
have
anyone
signed
up,
but
I
know
we
had
that
one
protest
letter
so
board
members
any
comments.
A
I
know
for
me
I
could
I
could
get
on
board
with
it
for
a
shorter
amount
of
time
and
off
street
parking
only
and
limiting
the
number
of
people.
I
I
deferred
to
the
board
on
the
number
of
people,
but
six
to
eight
seemed
reasonable
to
me.
We
did
have
the
protest
that
was
worried
about
stuff
in
this
area
and
so
that
that
to
me
makes
sense.
I
I'm
not
particularly,
I
have
a
strong
point
on
between
six
and
eight,
but
that's
kind
of
what
I
had
in
mind.
D
I
was
thinking
maximum
of
eight
and
I
agree
on
a
little
bit
shorter
term.
Generally.
Three
years
is
the
shortest
I
think
about,
but
on
this
one,
I'm
thinking,
let's
look
at
it
again
in
two
years,
so
I'd
say
two
years:
maximum
eight
that
are
putting
me
advertising
maximum
eight
off
street
looked
like
there
was
plenty
into
a
driveway.
P
F
D
D
A
Okay,
so
we'll
take
separate
votes
on
that.
We've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
number
one
for
eight
to
one.
For
the
reason
it
meets
statutory
conditions
for
a
special
exception
for
a
period
of
two
years
on
street
I
mean
offstring
parking
only
and
for
a
maximum
of
can
only
be
advertised
for
that
maximum
of
eight
guests.
Once
you're
able
to
cast
your
votes,
please.
A
F
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
case
number
14802
with
the
conditions
and
requirements
that
it
meets
the
requirements
of
the.
D
F
Yeah,
I
thought
it
was
for
the
same
as
well.
What
the
first
one
was
for.
A
Yeah
mike,
I
agree
with
you
on
that,
because
in
two
years
we
will
we
will
ideally
have
a
way
to
look
at
all
of
the
all.
The
home
sharing
permits
have
been
issued
and
we'll
know
a
better
idea
of
what's
going
on
in
the
city.
So
I
agree
with
you.
I
K
K
Yes,
cherie
whitnow
3021
southwest
124th,
3023
southwest
124th
and
3011..
We
are
making
an
application
for
special
exception
for
home
sharing,
we've
done.
These
are
duplexes,
we've
done
home
sharing
already
for
corporate
housing.
K
Mainly
that's
we
don't
advertise
on
airbnb.
We
do
corporations
so
very
little
traffic,
very
quiet.
It's
been
a
really
been
well
received
in
the
neighborhood.
When
I
talked
to
the
neighbors.
K
Several,
the
neighbors
have
toured
our
properties
as
well
and
looked
at
what
we've
done
and
been
pleased
with.
All
of
that
we've
put
courtyards
in
and,
of
course,
just
looking
at
the
decorating
and
the
different
things
that
we've
done
inside.
A
A
I
just
heard
you
say
the
word
but
yeah
I
was
looking
through
and
trying
to
find
the
last
time
we
heard
this
case
for
the
first
time,
and
I
remember
it
now
because
they're
duplexes,
as
I
was
reading
this,
I
was
thinking
how
in
the
world
did
we
approve
this,
but
based
on
the
comments
you
may
have
heard
from
the
last
application,
but
now
I
remember
it's
because
of
the
duplex
aspect
of
it,
so
that
makes
a
bit
more
sense
now.
A
I
do
still
think
we
may
have
some
new
board
members
since
then.
So,
if
you
wanted
to
go
through
the
number
of
bedrooms
you're
offering
the
number
of
people
the
parking
that
kind
of
stuff,
I
think
that
would
help.
K
Sure
these
are
three
bedroom
two
baths.
They
have
two
car
garages
with
a
actual
the
garage,
I'm
sorry
the
driveway.
You
can
hold
four
vehicles
because
you
have
enough.
I
don't
know
why
but
they're
just
extra
long
approaches,
so
you
can
put.
We
can
put
two
in
the
garage-
and
I
don't
need
that
many,
but
to
make
six
spaces,
but
you
could
get
two
in
the
garage
and
four
in
the
on
the
driveway.
K
However,
I've
never
needed
that.
Nor
do
I
think
I
will,
but
I
know
there
we've
had
these
units
as
long
term.
We've
had
them
for
years
and
when
we
do
have
the
long-term
tenants,
there
is
quite
a
few
more
cars
that
you
get
with
that
than
you
do
with
the
corporate.
K
These
are
usually
people
that
are
in
for
training
or
they're
in
for
meetings,
so
it's
just
been
very
peaceful
and
it's
been
a
good
and
across
the
street
they're
single-family
homes,
they're
all
single-family
homes.
Now
this
is
just
one
side
of
the
street
and
that
actually
has
been
brought
up.
I
mean
not
as
much
parking
when
you
have
family
and
teenagers
and
things
when
I
when
I
say
that
I
mean
there's
equal
amount
of
parking
that
there's
always
been
there's
not
as
many
vehicles
that
are
using
the
spaces.
K
I
mean.
There's
always
nothing's
changed
as
far
as
we
have
not
changed
the
property
to
add
on
you
know,
concrete
or
anything
like
that.
I'm
not
saying
that
what
I
mean
to
say
is
with
the
corporate
housing
you
get
less
people
less
vehicles.
The
max
we've
ever
had
is
two
vehicles.
K
So
far
we
have
a
king
size
in
the
master
bedroom
and
that
would
accommodate
two
people
and
the
queen's
queens
and
the
other
two
bedrooms,
and
that
would
accommodate
two
people,
and
then
we
have
one
rollout
bed
in
case
somebody
would
have
a
child
or
teenager
or
something
so
the
max
that
we
would
ever
do
would
be
seven.
However,
we've
never
done
that.
We've
never
had
seven,
so
we've,
never
honestly!
K
You
know
I
wish
it
would
be
more
frequently
that
we
would
rent
more
than
one
bedroom
at
a
time,
but
with
corporate
housing
we
normally
just
end
up
leasing
the
king-size.
You
know
master
bedroom,
so
that
might
be
more
information
than
you
wanted,
but.
A
Oh
that's
helpful
what
conditions
were
placed
on
this
last
time
if
any.
K
I
don't
believe
that
you
had
conditions
for
you
know
that
I
know
of
anything
I
mean
other
than
the
standard.
You
know
I
believe
you
gave
us.
Let
me
think
here.
I've
got
to
go
look
at
my
records,
but
I
think
you
gave
us
three
years.
You
know
is
that
what
you
mean.
H
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
mean,
I
think
what
probably
happened
was
it
was
new
and
there
were
some
again.
I
tried
to
find
it,
but
couldn't
find
it
quick
enough,
but
with
this
many
we
probably
said:
let's
do
it
for
a
short
amount
of
time
and
see
how
it
goes.
A
K
Right,
I
know
we
did
discuss
parking
and
at
the
time
I
addressed
that
there
is
a
two-car
garage
and
then
there
is
four
spaces
that
you
could
use,
never
been
needed,
but
so
far,
but
you
can
go,
you
know
two
cars
toward
the
front
garage
door
and
then
two
cars
behind
that
and
it
and
it
fit
fine
without
getting
into
the
street.
K
Now,
yeah
the
long
term,
you
know
units
when
we
have
people
that
have
a
husband,
wife
and
couple
teenagers.
Then
that's
you
know
it's
been
helpful
to
have
that,
but
everyone
you
know
there
are
people
that
do
park
in
the
street
when
they
are
long-term.
K
E
Marchant
this
is
cindy,
I
was,
I
have
the
special
exception
from
last
year.
There
are
no
no
conditions
imposed,
it
was
just
granted
for
one
year.
A
F
Chairman,
are
we
doing
these
as
separate
votes?
Are
all
three
combined.
F
A
This
morning
was
anyone
else
signed
up
or
no
one
else
is
signed
up.
Is
there
anyone
else
on
the
line
that
wanted
to
speak
on
this
application.
F
Yes,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
accept
case
number
one
four,
seven,
nine
eight
for
a
period
of
three
years
due
to
the
fact
that
it
meets
the
conditions
and
the
requirements
of
a
variance.
A
A
J
D
C
C
F
F
D
A
A
I'm
sorry.
F
So
will
that
be
for
case
number,
one,
four,
seven,
nine
eight,
as
well
as
one
four
eight
zero.
Five,
if
you
could.
A
Well,
so
let
me
clarify
just
to
make
the
municipal
counselors
job
easier,
hopefully
so
the
first
application
that
we've
already
voted
on.
I
think
she
just
wanted
the
board
to
clarify
that
that
was
for
a
renewal
of
especially,
and
so
I
don't
think
we
need
to
re-vote
on
that.
A
And
then
so,
you've
already
clarified,
miss
asbury
that
that
that
was
for
a
renewal
and
so
for
this
next
one.
This
would
just
be
a
motion
to
approve
this
case
for
a
renewal
of
the
special
exception
for
a
period
of
three
years,
because
it
meets
the
conditions
that
are
required
for
a
special
exception.
A
Okay,
so
we've
got
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
the
special
exception
in
case
14805,
to
renew
the
special
exception
for
a
period
of
three
years,
because
it
meets
the
statutory
conditions
for
a
special
exception.
Once
you're
able
to
cast
your
votes.
F
A
Yeah
so
for
this
one,
if
for
the
hp
applications,
we
might
have
a
variance
discussion
for
these
home
sharing
things,
but
for
this
one,
this
one's
not
an
hp.
So
this
one's
just
conditions
of
a
special
exception
council
made
our
heart
our
job
a
little
bit
harder,
but
I
think
the
motion
is
appropriate.
A
So
if
it's
on
your
voting
pane
and
you're
able
to
move
it's
on
mine,
okay,
there
we
go
and
then
if
we
have
a
second
and
miss
aspirin,
I
don't
you
probably
said
it,
but
I
don't
remember.
This
was
for
three
years
correct.
A
H
K
I
hope
I
mean
everything
I
think
is
there?
Was
there
any?
There
was
no
special
requirements,
but
right
correct.
Is
that
why
I
understood
that.
A
Correct
no
conditions.
A
A
A
A
Next
item
on
the
agenda,
communications
and
board
reports,
I
have
nothing
on
the
agenda
for
board
committees,
board
members
or
the
municipal
counselor
board.
Members
did
you
have
anything
or
city
staff,
okay,
citizens
to
be
heard,
wait
a
couple
of
seconds.
A
As
of
now,
it
is
looking
that
way
unless
the
legislature,
my
understanding,
is
the
legislature
either
needs
to
act,
to
extend
the
modifications
to
the
open
meetings,
act
or
the
governor
needs
to
issue
a
new
state
of
emergency
or
something
that
would
impact
that
I
don't
even
know
if
that
would
work
now,
because
when
I
read
the
statute,
it
said
it
expires
november
15
unless
the
governor
acts
or
something
like
that.
So
oh
go
ahead.
G
E
E
Everyone
attending
the
meeting
will
be
masked
and
they
will
be
temperature
checked
and
we
will
have
a
list
of
everyone
that
comes
into
the
meeting,
we're
going
to
be
social
distancing
and
we
were
going
to
get
together
with
our
board
and
we're
gonna
have
kind
of
an
instruction
sheet
of
how
everything's
gonna
be
working
and
me
and
paula
will
be
getting
with
you
guys
in
the
next
two
weeks
to
go
over
our
instructions
that
we
were
given
and
then
any
questions
that
you
have.
E
We
will
be
able
to
get
those
answered
for
you
thanks.
G
A
While
we
have
mostly
everyone
here
is
there
any?
I
mean
I
know,
there'll
be
some
procedures
that
city
council
announces,
but
we
can
certainly
do
more
or
less
if
we
like,
because
there
are
meetings,
because
so
we
can,
we
can
modify
that
I'd
like
mass.
I
know
in
court
we're
not
requiring
masks
while
someone
is
speaking
but
max
masks
are
required
any
other
time.
A
A
Same
here
I
mean,
I
don't
think
we
need
recurring
personal
meetings.
I
think
it's
I
won't
rant
too
long.
It
just
seems
like
the
height
of
insanity
that
we're
going
back
to
in-person
meetings
when
we
started
remote
meetings.
When
that
legislature
amended
the
open
meetings
act
or
did
what
they
needed
to
do.
Procedurally
to
revise
it.
A
We
were
at
15
cases
in
oklahoma
and
we
were
at
2100
today
and
we're
going
back,
we're
seeing
meetings,
it's
insane
to
me,
but
that's
beyond
our
powers
on
the
board,
and
so
we
kind
of
have
to
deal
with
whatever
the
legislature
and
the
governor
throw
to
us
and
for
now
that
means
returning
to
in-person
meetings.
So
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
A
I'm
concerned
I
mean
I'm
not
particularly
concerned,
I
think
I'll
be
fine
health-wise,
even
if
I
catch
it,
but
just
procedurally
I
mean:
if
a
board
member
gets
it,
you
know
they
don't
get
to
participate.
Do
they
get
to
participate
remotely,
while
everyone
else
is
in
person.
If
an
applicant
like
we
had
an
applicant
today
that
had
it
are
they
able
to
participate
remotely,
I
mean,
I
think
it's
going
to
procedurally
there'll
be
some
issues.
A
Inevitably
someone
on
city
staff
or
the
board
or
someone's
going
to
get
it,
and
it's
going
to
cause
issues
with
the
meetings,
so
I'd
prefer
to
keep
doing
what
we're
doing.
I've
worked
with
our
board.
Other
boards
have
had
issues,
but
it's
worked
for
our
board.
I
think
I'll
end
my
rant
there,
but
the
current
plan
is
to
return
in
person
for
the
next
meeting.
So
that's
what
we'll
do.
A
F
So,
sam
for
the
record,
I
did
speak
with
the
omes
legal
counsel
and
I
asked
about
the
same
question
as
you:
whether
or
not
you
can
have
dual
meetings
where
some
people
can
do
virtual
and
some
can
do
in-house.
They
said
unless
they
approve
of
it.
No,
you
can't.
A
F
A
Well,
board
members
feel
free
to
forward
to
me
any
ideas.
I'm
talking
to
some
folks
behind
the
scenes
just
to
see
what
kind
of
traction
we
can
we
can
get,
but
under
the
assumption
that
we're
going
to
return
for
the
next
meeting
to
in-person
meetings
feel
free
to
forward
to
me
any
recommendations
or
anything
like
that
that
you
might
have
or
conditions
that
you
would
want
to
place
on
meetings
to
make
you
feel
more
comfortable.
A
I
can
think
of
a
few
that
we
might
do.
That
would
be
easy
to
do
just
honest
from
a
sanitarist
perspective,
but
if
you
have
other
things
feel
free
to
forward
those
to
me
and
try
to
put
together
some
things
and
run
those
by
the
municipal
council
or
make
her
not
do
anything
illegal
and
try
to
get
those
things
done
so
that
you're
as
safe
as
possible.
A
Yeah,
no,
it
makes
sense
to
me
and
it's
it's
unfortunately.
If
I'm
honest,
I
think
it
should
be
something
that's
deferred
to
the
cities,
so
the
cities
can
address
the
issue,
that's
appropriate
for
their
city.
So
if
the
city
council
of
godebo
can
spread
out
20
feet
apart
and
still
conduct
in-person
meetings,
that's
one
thing,
but
oklahoma
city
is
just
not
able
to
do
it
and
you
know
we're.
We
don't
have
that
much
space.
A
Our
meetings
don't
get
that
big,
but
your
the
planning
commission
meetings
get
get
pretty
big.
I
don't
know
how
you're
gonna
fit
that
many
people
in
there.
You
know
it
just
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
me,
but
I
don't.
A
I
think
the
city's
probably
has
the
same
frustrations
that
we
do
and
we
need
state
action
on
this,
and
so
hopefully
there's
some
traction
there
for
the
folks
that
are
talking
with
their
state
representatives
and
getting
some
kind
of
compromise
accomplished,
but
in
the
meantime
feel
free
to
send
me
any
recommendations
or
things
that
you
might
have
that
make
you
feel
more
comfortable.
O
A
Know
that
I
want
to
put
you
in
a
position
to
where
you
don't
feel
comfortable
or
you
get
sick,
and
so,
if
you
have
that
issue
and
you
don't
feel
comfortable
going
to
meetings
then
then
let
me
know
that
privately
or
approach
city
staff
about
that,
and
we
can
deal
with
that
as
well.
So
any
other
comments.
A
All
right,
we
are
adjourned
thanks.
Everyone.