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Description
On the evening of Wednesday, October 19, 2022, the City of Oldsmar hosted its first Community Workshop for Oldsmar’s Comprehensive Plan Update – Vision 2043.
The workshop provided residents and businesses project introduction and an overview of the initial survey results. Additionally, attendees participated in an interactive survey and engaged with stakeholders at public input workstations.
To learn more about this important City Council initiative, visit https://oldsmar.civilspace.io/en/projects/7.
A
Hey,
if
everyone
could
grab
a
seat,
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Thank
you
everybody
for
coming
out
this
evening.
We
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
out
of
your
schedules.
We
know.
Weeknights
are
normally
family
time
or
free
time,
and
we
appreciate
you
taking
your
free
time
to
join
us.
We
really
value
your
input.
The
city
values
your
input.
A
We
want
to
make
this
fun
a
fun
night.
We
want
to
make
it
useful
for
you
as
well:
I'm
Louis,
Cerna
I'm,
with
Calvin
Giordano
and
Associates.
One
of
the
city's
Consultants
on
this
project
and
with
me
tonight
is
our
subconsultants
on
the
project
as
well:
Pritchett
Steinbeck,
Steinbeck
group
or
PSG
infrastructure,
Consulting
Engineers
or
ice
ice
and
Lambert
Consulting
they're,
a
part
of
the
team,
and
we
have
representatives
from
PSG
and
ice
here
tonight
and
you'll
meet
them.
Alan,
Steinbeck.
B
A
A
You
may
be
aware:
the
city
had
an
online
survey
regarding
the
comp
plan,
we're
going
to
discuss
the
results
that
we
have,
that
we're
going
to
have
a
time
for
interactive
survey,
questions,
sort
of
a
fun
exercise
with
you
and
give
you
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
and
have
discussion
and
then
we're
going
to
break
out
on
the
tables
and
I
know.
A
lot
of
you
have
already
been
introduced
to
the
the
topics
there.
A
We
really
want
to
flush
out
and
get
more
input
on
the
format
that
we
have
set
up
at
the
workstations
after
this
presentation
and
if
you're
like
me,
you'll
think
of
questions
or
comments
later,
and
if
you
do,
we
want
you
to
know
this,
isn't
your
only
opportunity
for
public
input?
There
is
a
second
public
Workshop
scheduled
for
January
24th,
we're
going
to
build
on
a
lot
of
the
topics
that
we
discussed
this
evening.
A
The
project
website
milesmar.com
again
has
the
survey
and
you
can
contact
the
planning
department
with
any
comments
or
questions
and
they'll
pass
those
along
to
the
team,
and
then
there
will
be
the
public
hearing
process
to
adopt
the
comprehensive
plan,
recommendations
and
I
know.
This
slide
is
hard
to
see,
but
this
is
basically
where
we
are
in
the
process.
We
are
the
middle
Red
Dot
there.
That's.
If
you
can
read
it,
says
countywide
stakeholder
meeting
number
one
again.
We
started
with
a
survey.
A
A
Those
will
ultimately
be
adopted
by
the
city
hopefully,
and
the
timeline
for
that
is
presentation
to
the
city
in
July,
August
and
ultimately
finish
up
for
adoption
in
October,
the
red
diamonds
that
you
see
there
or
where
we've
identified
the
public
has
the
opportunity
to
provide
input.
So
again,
there
will
be
more
opportunity
for
public
participation.
Hopefully
this
will
get
some
ideas,
spurred
in
your
mind,
all
right.
The
purpose
of
the
comp
plan,
it's
an
essential
feature
of
both
short-term
and
long-term
planning.
A
The
comprehensive
plan
is
a
state
mandated
plan.
Not
very
many
people
are
familiar
with
it
and
you'll
see
on
the
survey
results,
but
that's
fairly
typical.
The
comp
plan
is
mandated
to
contain
goals,
objectives
and
policies,
and
the
goals
are
basically
your
aspirations
for
the
community.
The
objectives
are
the
measurable
steps
or
actions
you'll
take
to
achieve
those
goals,
and
then
the
policies
are
how
you
implement
those
objectives
and
I'll.
Just
give
you
an
example
from
the
comp
plan.
A
That's
existing
goal,
one
of
the
future
land
use
element
is
the
city
shall
ensure
that
the
residential
character,
residential,
slash,
Family
character
of
the
city
of
Oldsmar
is
maintained
and
protected
and
then
further
on.
There's
some
objectives
that
state
as
an
ongoing
objective.
The
city
shall
ensure
that
land
use
is
associated
with
development
are
reviewed
for
compatibility
in
accordance
with
the
Land
Development
code.
A
That's
the
objective
and
then
the
policies
underneath
that
are
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
growth
takes
place
in
the
most
efficient
and
effective
manner
possible.
The
city
of
Oldsmar
shall
manage
growth
through
the
Land
Development
code
and
there's
a
lot
more
detail
of
that
and
the
city.
The
state
also
mandates
that
the
comprehensive
plan
contain
certain
elements
or
topic
areas
such
as
future
land
use,
environmental
Coastal
management
parks.
A
Transportation
infrastructure,
I
won't
name
them
all,
but
the
state
mandates
what
needs
to
be
in
your
comprehensive
plan.
The
state
also
mandates
that
every
seven
years
that
communities
must
update
their
comprehensive
plan.
So
that's
what
the
city
is
in
the
process
of
doing
now
by
state
law,
updating
their
comprehensive
plan.
So
we've
been
doing
a
lot
of
busy
work,
checking
to
make
sure
it
complies
with
current
state
law.
A
There
have
been
some
changes
to
state
law
that
the
city
is
going
to
need
to
address
in
the
comp
plan
to
reflect
changes
in
local
and
Regional
conditions
and
to
reflect
the
20-year
vision
of
the
community,
and
that
last
bullet
point
is
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
communities
gloss
over
that,
but
the
city
of
Oldsmar
has
wisely
indicated
that
they
really
want
this
comp
plan
to
be
a
reflection
of
the
community's
vision
for
the
next
20
years.
So
we've
established
a
20-year
planning
Horizon
according
to
the
plan,
so
again
we're
thinking
long
term.
A
So
survey
results.
How
familiar
are
you
with
the
comp
plan,
the
highest
percentage?
There
is
I'm
somewhat
familiar
with
the
purpose
of
the
comp
plan
and
what
it
contains
not
a
lot
of
people
are,
are
greatly
familiar
with
it,
which
is
no
surprise.
It's
a
fairly
typical
response
that
we
received
on
that.
So
hopefully
we'll
give
you
some
more
information
on
that
and
how
it's
relevant
to
the
city.
A
A
Behind
that
92
percent
infrastructure
improvements,
environmental
sustainability,
90
percent
related
to
that
is
resiliency
89.
Now
we
didn't
Define
these
in
the
code,
they're
very
much
related
or
in
the
survey
we
didn't
Define
these,
but
they're
very
much
related
topics
and
a
lot
of
people
use
them
interchangeably.
A
A
We
understand
that
in
the
responses
we
probably
got
a
lot
of
similar
responses,
thinking
that
they're
the
same
thing
but
and
they
are
very
related,
but
slightly
different
sidewalks
87
percent
Youth
and
teen
activities,
84
historic
preservation,
76
percent,
multimodal
Transportation
options,
75
percent
commercial
retail
development,
60
percent
and
then
finally
affordable
housing,
56
percent.
Again,
all
of
those
were
could
probably
be
considered
important
because
they
got
a
score
of
six
or
higher,
but
definitely
Parks
and
Rec
was
at
the
higher
end
infrastructure
and
then
environmental
issues.
A
We
then
asked
an
open-ended
question.
What
other
topics
should
be
addressed
when
planning
for
the
next
20
years,
so
thinking
20
years
out?
What
other
topics
should
the
city
be
considering
and
if
you
can't
read
those
in
the
back?
The
one
reason
the
one
receiving
the
highest
number
of
responses,
resiliency
sustainability
and
environmental
issues,
and
these
were
open-ended
questions.
So
we
had
to
go
through
and
summarize
and
categorize
these,
and
we
did
the
best
to
categorize
them
and
group
them
as
best.
A
We
could,
because
a
lot
of
people
had
very
very
long
answers
or
multiple
answers,
but
we
did.
We
did
try
to
put
those
in.
You
know
some
sort
of
format,
and
so
the
responses
that
were
repeated
received,
10
or
more
responses.
We
put
on
this
on
the
screen.
We
received
quite
a
bit
more
of
other
responses.
It
didn't
make
the
the
10
or
above
cut,
but
again
resiliency
sustainability
and
environmental
were
the
highest
growth
development.
Land
use
issues
were
received,
19
responses,
traffic
transportation
and
Transit,
18.
A
infrastructure,
drainage,
flooding,
16,
bicycle
pedestrian,
neighborhood
connectivity,
14,
public
school
facilities,
education,
12.,
Park,
Rex,
Park,
Rec
and
Facilities
14,
and
so
I.
Think
of
the
questions
that
we
put
in
the
survey
they're
all
covered
under
the
open-ended
questions,
with
the
exception
of
growth,
development
and
land
use,
so
definitely
growth
developmental
land
use
will
be
addressed
in
the
comp
plan.
These
are
broad
topic
areas.
A
There
is
a
future
land
use
element,
that's
a
part
of
the
comp
plan
that
will
address
those
issues,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
we
were
touching
on
all
the
topics
and
I
think
based
on
the
responses
we
received,
that
all
of
these
issues
are
addressed
in
the
in
the
current
comp
plan
and
will
continue
to
be
addressing
this,
but
it
might
give
you
an
idea
of
what's
what's
important
to
the
community
based
on
the
survey
all
right.
How
would
you
rate
the
quality
of
life
in
Oldsmar,
51,
good,
37,
Excellence
I?
A
A
A
And
then
a
couple
more
open-ended
questions.
What
are
your
biggest
concerns
about
the
future
of
Oldsmar
and
again
open-ended?
So
we
had
to
categorize
and
summarize,
but
by
far
the
biggest
area
of
concern
was
uncontrolled
growth
too
much
growth
too
fast
growth.
41
people
responded
to
that
with
that
response:
environmental
sustainability
preservation,
14
traffic
and
Roads
12,
lack
of
Downtown
Development,
12.,
loss
of
community
character,
again
12,
so
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
interrelated
concerns,
and
then
infrastructure,
11.
A
And
then
what
would
you
change
in
Oldsmar
open-ended
people
mentioned
bike,
pedestrian
and
neighborhood
connectivity,
the
neighborhood
connectivity
that
that
came
up
as
a
different
type.
As
a
in
a
previous
response
open-ended
question,
we
did
hear
a
lot
of
things
on
the
responses
to
the
survey
on
open-ended
about.
We
need
a
better
way
to
get
to
the
downtown
over
580
Tampa
Road
connect.
This
neighborhood
make
it
easier
to
get
to
buy
a
bike
or
pedestrian
or
even
golf
carts.
You
know
just
connect
connect.
A
The
community
so
I
think
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
build
on
that
with
some
of
the
workstations.
When
you
look
at
areas
of
concern
and
opportunities
for
bicycle
pedestrian
connections,
improve
the
downtown,
improve,
slash,
develop
the
downtown.
What
would
you
change
about
Oldsmar,
16
responses
and
again
we
we
paired
these
down
to
anything.
A
Five
or
above
a
lot
of
people
wanted
to
see
more
active
retail
restaurant,
more
Gathering
areas,
coffee
shops-
they
didn't
specify
where
so
we
just
put
that
as
a
as
its
own
category
and
then
environmental
sustainability
and
preservation
keeps
coming
up
as
a
topic,
so
I
think
that's
what
we're
going
to
talk
about.
Building
on
that,
with
some
strategies,
those
are
the
results
of
the
survey.
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
Alan.
A
Now
he's
going
to
do
some
interactive
discussions
with
you
all
more
survey,
questions
we're
going
to
build
on
a
lot
of
these.
Some
of
these
are
repeated
from
the
survey,
but
really
just
to
prompt
your
mind
to
thinking
about
these
issues
and
how
they
relate
to
the
overall
vision
for
the
comp
plan.
Again
we're
thinking
20
years
out.
C
D
Louie
and
thank
you
all
for
being
here
so
the
first,
the
first
survey
that
Louie's
just
been
over
really
was
focused
on
what
you
all
value
as
a
community.
What
the
community
is
like
now,
what
are
some
of
the
issues
that
exist
and
some
of
the
things
you
want
to
want
to
resolve
in
Oldsmar,
but
we
wanted
to
move
into
the
next
phase
of
conversation
which
is
really
about
that
Vision.
What
do
you
want
this
community
to
be,
and
what
do
we
want
to
change?
And
what
can
we
do
about
it?
D
So
the
plan
is
that
framework
for
growth
and
change
and
within
that
plan,
division
is
something
we
want
to
establish
we're
to
do
that.
We're
having
the
two-part
remainder
of
the
of
the
meeting
tonight,
which
is
this
interactive
tool,
you
will
need
your
phone
or
I.
Imagine
is
anybody
who
does
not
have
a
phone
on
them
or
a
tablet
on
them?
Okay,
you
can
use
my
phone,
or
someone
from
the
team
could
volunteer
their
phone
to
you.
D
D
C
D
D
So
these
are
going
to
go
one
by
one
here.
This
is
sort
of
an
icebreaker
question
to
make
sure
everybody's
in
line.
Oldsmar
was
at
one
time
known
as
Rooker,
Heights,
Tampa,
Shores
or
North
Tampa,
Bay
and
you'll
see.
Don't
shout
out
the
answer,
because
then
everyone
will
know
what
the
right
answer
is:
okay
and
I'm
I'm
gonna
give
everybody
a
minute
to
do
this
and
I'll
probably
move
this
one
kind
of
fast,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
has
some
time
to
answer
these
questions.
D
D
This
one
requires
a
little
skill
indicate
where
you
live
on
the
map.
You'll
see
a
DOT,
there
put
your
finger
on
it
and
you
can
kind
of
drag
it
around
close
enough
is
okay
once
you've
once
it's
in
it's
kind
of
the
right
place,
you'll
hit
submit.
If
you
don't
live
on
this
map
like
me,
you
can
move
your
dot
to
the
up
to
the
corner
there.
D
D
A
little
surprised
that
inside
Pasco
or
inside
Pinellas
County,
not
in
Oldsmar,
is
only
seven
percent.
That
I
would
think
that
more
of
you
would
be
working
here
in
the
county
than
that.
Okay,
great,
we'll,
keep
moving
we're
asking
again
your
your
tenure
of
residence
here.
If
you
have
lived
here
or
if
you
don't
live
here,
because
we
want
to
associate
these
questions,
this
is
obviously
Anonymous,
but
we
know
based
on
tenure
what
what
people
are
asking
and
we'll
be
analyzing
some
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
D
As
we
look
at
the
the
findings
here,
remember
the
other
one.
A
lot
of
the
I
think
the
biggest
percentage
was
six
to
15
years,
except
we
got
a
lot
of
people
here
are
in
the
10
plus
year
time
frame
here
and
I've
heard
met.
Some
of
you
already
who've
lived
here
longer
than
longer
much
longer
than
10
years
great
and
you
are
moving
fast.
This
is
good.
What
part
of
the
old
smart
Community
do
you
represent
so,
like
all
that
apply,
are
you
a
resident
business
owner?
D
Okay,
they're
one
of
the
fastest
audiences
I've
ever
done
this
with
describe
Oldsmar
in
one
or
two
words.
Okay,
this
is
going
to
take
a
minute
but
think
about
when
you
think
of
Baltimore.
You
can
put
a
one
word
answer
two-word
answer
and
you
can
submit
more
than
one
you
can.
It
allows
you
to
do
three
so
I'm
going
to
give
you
a
second
to
think
about
this.
D
And
the
bigger
the
word,
the
more
people
have
said
this.
So
more
people
have
said
Community
than
anything,
I
think
they're,
probably
saying
like
friendly
community
or
maybe
some
phrases
like
that.
But
the
fact
that
Community
comes
to
mind
and
how
you
describe
yourself
is
important
in
several
different
ways.
D
D
So
this
is
important:
it's
not
just
kind
of
fun,
but
we're
going
to
be
crafting
a
vision
statement
for
the
plan
and
the
words
that
you
all
use
and
the
feedback
that
you
all
use
will
become
part
of
the
vision
which
is
the
highest
level
of
framework.
That
the
plan
has
the
goals
and
the
wording
that
we
use
in
the
plan
is
very
important,
because
these
words
that
we're
hearing.
D
Get
translated
into
plan
policy
in
the
words
that
go
into
the
update
that
we're
doing
so
that
that
is
why
we're
doing
this,
it's
not
just
an
independent
exercise.
We
really
want
to
translate
what
we're
hearing
from
you
all
into
real
world
policies
that
are
going
to
shape
the
community
and
communities
still
being
the
the
number.
One
word
that
people
typed
in
here
and
I
think
we're
done.
D
D
D
Biking
in
Parks
parks
and
water
are
relaxing
family
Trend
family
feel
you
know,
I
noticed
visiting
here,
I
always
go
to
the
grocery
store
to
see
what
a
place
is
like
so
I
noticed
in
Publix.
There
are
a
lot
of
young
families,
families
with
babies
and
younger
people
here
in
Oldsmar,
which
you
don't
see
in
every
Community.
There
are
a
lot
of
them,
so
there's
definitely
a
mixed
generation
mixed
age
feel
to
this
place,
which
is
great
playgrounds,
close
to
parks,
neighborhood,
not
development.
D
D
So
this
is
about
opinion,
whether
you
strongly
agree
or
disagree
with
these
statements.
Oldsmar
offers
housing
that
is
Affordable
desirable
to
all
age
groups,
diverse
in
terms
of
size
and
type,
so
you're
going
to
use
that
little
slider
on
each
of
these
answers
to
gauge
what
you
think
about
this,
and
what
we're
doing
here
is
taking
the
average
of
everybody's
responses.
D
So
I
hope
we
can.
When
we
get
into
conversation
with
you
all
after
we
break
out
and
talk
about
affordability
a
little
bit,
you
did
rank
affordable
housing
as
not
one
of
your
top
issues
of
concern.
Many
places
around
the
region
in
the
state
that's
sort
of
like
number
one
affordable
housing.
So
why
is
that
not
such
a
big
deal
here?
And
and
what
should
we
do
about
it?
Because
some
people
do
struggle
from
from
this
topic?
D
D
What
types
of
housing
are
most
needed
in
Oldsmar
select
all
that
apply,
townhouses
single-family
homes,
large-scale
multi-family,
small-scale
multi-family,
duplexes,
triplexers
or
quads
senior
housing
is
already
getting
a
couple
of
votes
here.
Mixed-Use
projects
with
housing
or
accessory
dwelling
units
accessory
dwelling
units
being
those
smaller
units
that
get
built
on
a
lot.
A
second,
a
second
residence
on
a
lot.
D
Okay,
so
for
town
houses
and
single-family
homes
are
getting
the
most
boats
here,
hard
to
say
where
we
would
put
more
single-family
homes.
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
home
renovation
going
on,
and
some
rebuilding
on
Lots
in
town,
but
followed
up
by
multi
mixed-use
projects
and
senior
housing.
We've
almost
got
everybody
in
the
mix
here.
D
F
D
D
All
right
and
people
I
think
agree
with
that
assessment
looks
like
with
that
one
at
the
bottom
they're
getting
the
most
in
this
at
Greer,
strongly
agree
category
and
did
not
agree,
I
wonder
sort
of
what
you
are
referring
to
thinking
of
Transit
being
one
thing
that
people
rely
on
when
they
can't
or
do
not
choose
to
drive.
So
a
lot
of
people
have
rated
that
rather
low.
E
D
And
this
is
sort
of
getting
into
the
Segway
there's
two
remaining
questions.
That's
going
to
lead
us
into
the
discussion,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have.
We
have
maps
that
include
and
Louie's
going
to
explain
this
in
a
little
more
detail,
but
we
have
maps
and
we
also
have
a
vision
board
in
the
back.
But
I
want
you
to
respond
to
this.
D
What
changes
would
you
like
to
see
in
Oldsmar
in
the
immediate
future
and
we're
talking
about
the
next
couple
of
years,
so
think
about
something
that
actually
can
realistically
happen
because
I'm
about
to
ask
a
question
about
the
next
20
years,
which
is
a
longer
term
view,
but
we're
thinking
about
like
now
in
the
now
time
frame?
What
would
you
like
to
see
as
soon
as
as
soon
as
it
can
possibly
happen?
D
D
D
Safer
sidewalks:
what's
this
one
over
here,
fixing
of
potholes
and
more
little
shops
near
something
that's
off
the
page,
we'll
get
to
that
all
right!
Thank
you,
and
here
at
the
last
question,
what
would
you
like
Oldsmar
to
be
in
the
next
20
to
30
years,
and
don't
think
small
here
think
about
what
what
are
the
transformational
things
that
pink
Ultima
a
better
place?
If
you
have
a
vision
for
that
or
a
desire
for
that?
D
The
Hub
of
Tampa
Bay,
you
know
Oldsmar
is,
is
not
super
close
to
a
whole
lot
of
places,
but
close
enough
where
it
is
sort
of
central
to
many
things
where
you
can
get
to
it's
a
it
puts
it
in
that
best
kept
secret
category
I.
Think
for
a
lot
of
people
who
don't
think
about
being
here
or
locating
here,
but
it
is,
it
is
locationally
efficient
to
a
lot
of
parts
of
the
region.
D
Fun
place,
downtown
activities
connected
to
public
transportation,
small
community
close
to
fun
stuff,
so
keeping
the
community
small
maintain
the
hidden
treasure.
Some
sort
of
maintenance
of
place
comments
in
here
fully
fully
walkable
city,
which
has
a
vibrant
downtown
that
retains
its
small
town
feel
and
historic
charm,
green,
self-reliant,
connected.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody,
it's
interesting
to
see.
Zalen
indicated
we
do
want
to
come
up.
We
do
want
to
help
the
city
develop
a
long-term
vision
for
the
community,
so
we
do
have
a
table
back
in
the
back.
That
discusses
the
vision.
Environmental
and
sustainability
issues
came
up
as
a
topic,
so
we
do
have
a
table.
That's
dedicated
to
that
back
there.
The
city
has
a
resiliency
plan.
A
We
want
to
recognize
that
work
has
already
been
put
towards
that,
but
we
want
to
consider
whether
or
not
we
are
considering
all
options.
If
there's
anything
else
that
needs
to
be
included
in
the
plan.
Not
only
are
we
looking
big
picture
as
far
as
the
vision
goes,
but
we
also
want
to
talk
about
some
strategies
for
implementing
or
achieving
the
vision.
So
we
do
have
the
tables
back
there
we'll
be
Milling
about
the
team,
and
we
can
help
explain
some
of
those
I
know.
A
G
G
You
know
we're
talking
about
revising
the
the
20-year
comprehensive
plan.
I
guess
just
wondering
what
kind
of
form
that
would
take
you
know.
Is
it
eventually
going
to
be
worked
up
into
something
codified,
that
you
know
Council
will
vote
on
and
become
part
of
our
city
code
or
what?
What
kind
of
is
the
final
document
or
approval
that
you
could
comprehend
yeah.
A
B
A
Yeah,
based
on
the
discussion
that
we
have,
we
need
to
come
up
with
actual
goals,
objectives
and
policies.
We're
going
to
be
building
a
lot
on
what's
already
in
the
plan
and
I
do
have
a
copy
of
the
existing
comprehensive
plan.
If
you
want
to
look
and
see
what's
in
it,
but
a
lot
of
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
making
sure
that,
what's
already
in
there
reflects
the
community's
vision.
So
we're
going
to
be
coming
up
with
the
actual
verbiage.
A
Yeah
I
think
we're
going
to
take
what
the
information
that
we
received
tonight
and
sort
of
refine
that
and
see.
If
we
have
any
follow-up
questions
we
don't
have.
You
know
the
exact
questions
that
we're
going
to
be
asking
at
that
meeting,
but
a
lot
of
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
is
following
up
and
then
revising
the
vision.
H
I
have
a
question:
the
survey
that
you
talked
about
I
apologize
I,
was
a
little
bit
late
coming
in,
but
I
never
saw
a
survey
and
I
don't
know
how
many
residents
are
in
Oldsmar,
but
I'm.
Just
thinking
that
in
the
future,
I
I
would
think
that
we
would
want
to
get
at
least
50
percent
response
and
I
don't
know.
A
Yeah
certainly-
and
we
understand
we-
we
did
want
to
have
the
surveys
available
before
this
Workshop,
so
we
could
start
developing
themes
and
topics,
but
the
survey
is
going
to
remain
up.
If
we,
you
know
we'll
spread
the
word
as
best
we
can.
It's
on
the
the
website.
Milesmar.Com
we'll
continue
to
take
input
and
see
if
there's
significant
change
on
that.
H
I'm
just
wondering
like,
for
instance,
when
we
get
our,
you
know
our
our
sewer
bill.
If
maybe
you
know
something
could
be
put
on
that
or
maybe
a
flyer
could
be
stepped
in,
you
know,
you
know,
make
your
voice
count
for
Oldsmar.
You
know,
please,
you
know
go
into
here
and
answer
our
quick
survey,
something
like
that.
I
didn't
even
know
that
that
this
was
a
thing
yeah.
I
A
A
No,
it
will
will
do
we'll
work
with
the
city
on
getting
more
exposure
to
that.
It
did
go
out
in
the
Oldsmar
magazine
that
everyone
gets.
There
was
a
page
on
it
there
so,
but
yeah
we'll
talk
to
the
city.
If
we,
you
know,
if
there's
any
ideas
to
getting
the
word
out,
more
and
I
think
the
city
has
expressed
an
interest
in
since
this
is.
This
is
a
20-year
plan
on
getting
the
people
who
are
going
to
be
affected
by
this,
the
most
which
are
younger
people.
A
E
A
That's
a
good
question:
I,
don't
I
do
not
think
it's
available,
but
I'll
see
if
we
can
get
it
put
up
there
I
think
it's!
You
know
one
of
those,
it's
a
very
lengthy
document
and
not
something
that
most
people
would
peruse,
but
I'll
see.
If
we
can
do
that,
that's
good
input
and
we
can
see
about
having
a
link
to
that.
C
J
Bill
I
think
definitely
need
more
input.
Two
questions:
did
the
state
law
changes
that
you're
having
to
conform?
Our
plan
to
are
any
of
those
making
a
very
significant
change
to
the
city
plans
and
the
second
question
is
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
last
year
they
there
was
a
lot
of
referendum
or
just
a
a
lot
of
local
City
Council
meetings
related
to
a
Downtown,
Development
and.
E
J
A
And
we
are
aware
of
those
those
efforts,
the
the
city
vision
for
the
that
small
area
of
the
downtown
that
City
owned.
We
do
have
that
we're
going
to
keep
that
in
mind.
We
want
everything
to
be
consistent
regarding
State
Law
changes,
a
lot
of
it's
incur
old
references
to
state
law,
no
significant
changes,
I
think
the
state
has
in
certain
aspects,
has
become
less
restrictive,
so
certain
things
are
now
optional.
A
As
far
as
old
as
Mars
comp
plan
goes,
the
city
did
already
adopt
a
property
rights
element
which
was
mandated
by
state
law.
That
was
fairly
recent
fairly
recent
addition
to
the
comp
plan
so
they're
on
top
of
it
there,
but
really
we're
doing
a
lot
of
just
technical,
deleting
old
references
and
things
like
that.
Everything.
A
A
Not
to
my
knowledge
and
I
think
that
that's
been
a
oh,
it
is
or
not
it
never
never
can
be
touched.
Yeah
I'm,
not
sure.
If
it's
if
I
guess
not
developed
really
is,
is
I
guess
what
I
was
getting
at,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
more
can
be
done
to
allow
Trails
or
access
or
enjoyment
of
that
I'm.
Not
I,
don't
know,
but
that
topic
has
come
up
before,
because
it's
it's
a
huge
chunk
of
of
the
city.
A
I
A
I
K
A
As
far
as
annexation
goes,
I
think
the
comp
plan
could
address
potential
areas
of
where
the
city
could
Annex
I
haven't
seen
that
come
up
as
as
an
issue
of
concern.
Yet.
But
if
you
know,
if
there
is
consensus
to
address
something
like
that,
if
there
is
an
area
that
could
be
annexed
and
should
be
annexed
for
for
a
certain
reason
that
could
be,
you
know
a
goal
in
the
comp
plan,
for
example,
and
preserving
areas
for
wildlife.
L
Is
there
a
way
for
you
to
discern
where
about
that
survey
is
coming
from
in
Oldsmar,
because
I
know
that
in
the
area
where
I
live,
if
there's
a
square
inch
that
isn't
developed
already,
it's
because
you
would
have
to
knock
a
house
down
to
put
another
one
up,
but
I
understand
that
there's
other
parts
of
Oldsmar
that
you
know
it's
it's
too
much
it's
going
too
fast
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
guys
are
taking
into
consideration
as
your
putting
these
in
a
priority
whereabouts.
The
answers
to
these
questions
are
coming
from.
A
M
E
M
A
The
the
comp
plan
does
have
a
whole
element
on
based
on
infrastructure,
water,
sewer,
drainage,
Etc,
and
we
do
have
there's
a
lot
of
data
behind
that,
including
population
projections,
because
those
policies
behind
that
have
to
be
backed
up
by
data.
So
if
a
projection
is
for
the
city
to
grow
by
a
certain
amount,
the
infrastructure
has
to
be
in
place
to
accommodate
that.
So
that
is
being
considered
a
has
been
considered.
A
A
I
A
B
A
Yeah
and
we
do
have
a
transportation
element
in
the
comp
plan
as
well.
We
do
get
details
as
far
as
what
can
be
done
and
in
the
future,
as
you
know,
Pinellas
County.
For
the
most
part,
you
really
can't
widen
roads
anymore,
so
we're
either
going
to
have
to
live
with
a
lot
more
traffic
or
come
up
with
some
other
other
alternatives
for
getting
people
around
yeah
and
I
saw
you
do
the
hand
motion
up
yeah
that
would
that
would
be.
A
F
F
A
Yeah-
and
that's
really,
you
know,
as
a
planner-
that's
always
been
one
of
my
pet
peeves
is
when
you
do
plans
and
people
come
out
and
put
a
lot
of
work
into
it,
that
it
does
get
put
on
the
Shelf
doesn't
get
implemented
and
I
think
the
city
doesn't
want
that
either.
They
really
want
this
to
be
a
reflection
of
the
community's
desires.
How
we
do
that
I
think
is
through
the
public
input
process.
The
comp
plan,
like
I,
said
a
lot
of
it's
implemented
through
the
Land
Development
regulations.
A
So
you'll
see
a
lot
of
language
in
there
that
the
Land
Development
regulations
will
address
X,
Y
and
Z,
getting
real,
specific
and
then
down
the
road.
Usually
there's
a
timeline
associated
with
it.
The
city,
if
they
want
to
be
consistent
with
their
comp
plan,
will
make
those
changes
to
the
comp
plan.
So
there
are
implementing
steps
and
again
that
that's
definitely
what
the
city
does
not
want
is
for
it
to
be
used
as
a
doorstop
or
put
on
a
shelf
and
never
referred
to
again.
K
I
have
another
question
about
the
traffic.
You
know
the
resident
Crossing
Tampa
wrote
it
caves
more
to
the
through
traffic.
Coming
from
you
know,
other
counties,
and
rather
than
the
city
residents.
Will
they
take
in
account
for
the
residents
being
able
to
cross
Tamp
Road
in
a
timely
manner,
because
you
know
you
go
up
to
the
intersections
and
it's
catered
more
to
Tampa
Road
than
the
residential
area.