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B
We
are
going
to
move
to
the
approval
of
the
minutes.
I
need
a
motion.
B
C
B
E
Hello,
Tatiana
Childress
city
of
Oldsmar
planning
and
Redevelopment
director,
so
this
is
ca2210
code
amendments
to
section
5.1.7,
decreasing
defense,
setback
of
the
sidewalk
from
five
feet
to
two
feet.
In
the
residential
district
in
January
of
this
year,
the
city
approved
ordinance,
28
2205,
which
redefines
secondary
front
yards
and
included
additional
Provisions
for
fence
placements,
requiring
a
5
foot
setback
from
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
to
the
new
fence.
E
Since
then,
City
received
multiple
complaints
regarding
new
setback
requirements
in
the
technical
Review
Committee
reevaluated,
the
original
code
amendment
that
was
approved
in
2022
of
January
of
this
year
and
agreed
to
reduce
the
setbacks
from
5
feet
to
two
feet.
The
following
slides
demonstrate
where
this
amendment
will
be
applicable.
E
So
it's
anywhere
within
your
front
setback
area
of
your
front
yard
next
to
the
public
sidewalk
is
demonstrated
on
this
graphic
you'll,
see
that
with
the
new
amendment,
that
requirement
will
be
two
feet
when
the
sidewalk
at
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
is
aligning
with
your
property
line.
E
E
So
this
text
amendment
was
evaluated
according
to
article
3,
section
3.13.2
standards
for
approval.
E
The
amendment
complies
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
advances
the
purpose
of
the
Land
Development
code.
The
proposed
amendment
will
allow
residents
to
maximize
their
yard
area,
enjoy
their
property
rights
while
still
providing
adequate
offset
of
two
feet
for
sidewalk
repair
and
maintenance.
E
The
amendment
will
contribute
to
promote
the
community's
welfare
it.
A
two-foot
setback
was
determined
to
be
sufficient
for
potential
sidewalk
maintenance
and
repair,
and
the
amendment
will
not
Grant
a
special
privilege
to
an
individual
property
owner.
The
code
provision
will
be
applied
uniformly
throughout
the
city
in
Old,
residential
districts
and
based
on
the
discussion.
Staff
recommends
approval
of
the
tax
amendment
to
decrease
defense
setback
to
the
back
of
the
public
sidewalk
from
five
feet
to
two
feet
in
the
residential
districts.
E
F
F
Anyway,
yeah
I
remember:
we
talked
about
this
once
before
not
too
long
ago
and
I.
Remember
then
I.
If
it
were
me,
you
know
I
would
say
no.
No
setback
from
the
sidewalk
I
understand.
F
Why
you,
you
know
you
get
because
of
the
repairs
and
maintenance
and
I
understand
why
I
still
don't
I
I,
don't
think
it's
I,
don't
think
it's
good
to
take
a
take
property
away
from
people,
but
I
do
understand
why
it's
why
it's
this
way
and
I'm
glad
they
did
go
from
five
to
to
two
at
least
one
would
have
been
better,
but
but
no
I
understand
this
and
I
I'm
I'm,
all
in
favor
yeah.
G
E
See
I
didn't
add
original
slide,
so
the
clear
side
triangle
will
still
be.
Any
project
will
still
be
evaluated
for
the
clear
side
triangle.
That's
where
the
placement
of
the
fence
will
be
evaluated
for
any
visual
kind
of
like
obstruction
from
the
corners.
A
E
E
A
E
There
are
very
few
Lots
residential
lots
within
the
city
that
fall
under
that
category,
so,
while
I'm
stating
here
that
it
will
benefit
everybody
in
the
city,
it's
everybody
in
the
city
who
meets
the
criteria,
not
the
criteria,
but
who
falls
under
the
category
of
Corner,
Lots,
sidewalk
on
the
property
line
and
all
of
the
above
that
I
just
enlisted.
So
in
that
case,
since
we
do
have
a
quorum,
maybe.
C
A
Fourteen
thousand
dollars
worth
of
my
property,
which
was
700
square
feet,
and
it's
like
you
really
can't
do
that.
So
you
need
to
this
is
an
old
Oldsmar.
Everyone
else
is
platted
correctly,
but
in
Old
Oldsmar
you'll
find
this.
The
sidewalk
doesn't
even
match
it's
four
foot,
eight
to
four
feet:
it's
crooked!
So
move
your
sidewalk,
don't
make
me
move
my
land,
so
the
Tatiana
and
I
had
many
discussions
of
this
and
the
solution
appeared
to
be
the
solution
they're
presenting
and
it
will-
and
she
said
I
was.
A
E
And
and
we
have
complaints
on
the
other
hand
as
well
so,
prior
to
this,
to
answer
a
question
about
five
foot
setback.
We
had
complaints
from
residents
who
complained
that
the
sidewalk
was.
The
fence
was
placed
right
on
the
sidewalk,
at
which
point
we
recommended
to
offset
at
five
feet
or
in
this
instance.
Now
it's
two
feet.
So
when
you
walk
your
dog
or
if
you
just
walk
on
the
sidewalk,
you
don't
want
to
be
walking
next
to
a
sidewalk,
a
wall
that
is
right
next
to
the
sidewalk.
E
A
F
Yeah
I
forgot
I
forgot
to
say
something.
This
is
just
a
statement.
This
is
not
anything
I'm
concerned
about,
like
I,
said
I
would
prefer
it
to
be
right
up
against
the
sidewalk
but
I'm
concerned
about,
since
it's
even
two
feet.
How
many
homeowners
are
going
to
cut
behind
the
fence,
but
not
in
front
of
the
fence
yeah.
So.
D
F
D
B
My
next
door
questions
for
staff
from
anyone
else.
Okay,
so
I
I
have
a
couple.
One
is
so
so
you're
saying
this
is
only
for
Corner
Lots.
E
Will
affect
people
that
wanted
to
place
fence
on
the
corner
lot
anywhere,
where
you
wanted
to
well
Corner
Lots.
They
have
double
Frontage
so
right,
not
that
many
people
have
fences
in
their
front
yards
and
the
sidewalk
is
usually
located
in
the
right
away
next,
to
kind
of
like
your
front
yard.
So
since
Corner
lots
have
both
the
secondary
front
and
the
front
yard,
if
you
remember,
we
redefined
the
secondary
yards
and
then
certain
instances,
the
sidewalk
will
be
running
on
your
secondary
front.
E
So
that's
why
I
mentioned
secondary
front,
but
actually
anybody
who
wanted
to
put
today
buy
code,
so
six
foot
fence
in
the
secondary
front
yard
placed
next
to
the
sidewalk
or
a
three
and
a
half
foot
fence
on
your
front
yard.
It's
still.
It
was
by
the
original
ordinance
that
was
adopted
in
2022
in
January
2022.
E
Both
of
those
instances
would
still
require
five
foot
setback
from
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
to
the
new
fence,
so
be
it
the
front
yard,
with
a
three
and
a
half
or
a
secondary
front
yard
corner
lot
with
the
six
foot
fence
in
other
instances,
you're
next
to
your
neighbor.
So
you
wouldn't
be
placing
the
fence
against
the
sidewalk,
because
your
inner
Lots,
okay.
E
B
B
E
Only
applied
to
cases
when
the
back
of
the
sidewalk
is
your
property
line.
We
have
very
few
lots
that
are
in
that
category.
So
all
of
the
newer
subdivisions
they're
designed
with
a
five
foot
setback,
but
it's
within
the
public
right
away
or
easement
of
some
sort.
The
older
subdivisions
they
were
sidewalks
were
placed
in
a
manner
where
your
property
line
would
be
the
back
of
the
sidewalk,
whether
you
know
I'm
not
sure,
30
years
ago
or
when
the
sidewalks
were
placed
50
years
ago.
E
So
in
some
of
the
older
subdivisions
we
do
have
an
instance
for
some
lots
and
that's
why
we
thought
that
it
wouldn't
even
affect
that
many
people
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
when
the
ordinance
was
adopted.
We
started
receiving
this
requests
for
three
foot
sidewalk
in
the
front
yard,
and
we
realized
that
five
foot
will
take
that
five
feet
away
from
your
front
yard
and
then
there's
not
that
much
room
for
your
privacy
in
the
front
yard
or
being
a
corner
lot
on
the
secondary
front.
E
B
But
the
newer
properties
are
plotted
where
are
plotted
planted,
where
it's
five
feet
from
the
sidewalk
is
their
property
line,
so
they
don't
own
that
five
feet.
The.
E
C
B
So
to
your
point,
when
you're
walking
down
a
street,
because
you
know
looking
at
the
vision
that
the
city
has
for
our
our
walkways
and
making
a
walkable
City
so
when
you're
walking
down
a
city,
sidewalk
and
you're
walking
next
to,
like
you,
said,
a
six
foot,
privacy
fence
along
the
city,
so
you
have
two
properties
that
back
up
so
that
whole
side
street
would
potentially
be
a
privacy
fence
six
feet
high.
That
was
a
very
close
distance
from
the
sidewalk
two
feet:
two
feet:
24
inches
right.
B
Potentially
what
this
could
look
like
if
everyone
chose
to
move
their
fences
and
erect
privacy
fences
so
I'm
just
trying
to
look
at
it
from
longevity
rather
than
in
the
moment
and
see
you
know
what
is
the
vision
that
we
have
here
and
just
make
sure
that
I
understood
you
know
what's
being
proposed
and
the
two
years.
E
B
So
I
live
next
door
to
a
beautiful
property
and
I
know
the
city
for
almost
two
years.
I
think
they
had
a
three
foot
fence,
but
they
weren't
able
to
put
the
slots
on
the
fence
because
it
didn't
meet
some
kind
of
ordinance,
I'm,
not
sure,
and
it's
a
couple
feet
back
and
they
do
a
beautiful
land
landscaping
job.
But
to
your
point,
I,
there's
a
strip
about
this
slide
on
my
side
and
I
and
I
mentioned
hey
your.
B
Mowing
over
there
yeah
and
you
know,
I-
do
my
own
yard,
I,
don't
have
a
landscaping.
Company
come
and
so
I
stopped
mowing
it,
and
it's
it's
about
this
high.
Now
it's
getting
ready
to
creep
over
these
fence
and
start
looking
at
them
and
he's
a
great
neighbor
and
it's
very
awkward
but
but
to
your
point,
I
can
see
where,
if
we
have
all
these
fences
that
are
blocking
and
there's
these
little
strips
of
of
grass,
this
particular
neighbor
has
to
landscape
beautifully
on
that
five
foot
setback.
B
You
know,
I
I,
think
we
need
to
to
just
think
a
little
deeper
here
and
I
know
you
disagree,
but
the
older
properties
were
not.
You
know
platted
with
this
Forward
Thinking
of
you
know
what
might
be
needed
in
the
future.
So.
E
E
But
on
the
existing
properties,
when
the
new
sidewalks,
the
city,
when
the
city
has
funding
to
replace
the
sidewalks
in
the
future,
the
alignment
of
the
sidewalk
will
change
where
it
is
placed
properly
five
feet
away
from
the
property
line,
not
encroaching
into
the
property
right
into
the
property.
Okay,.
B
Individual
property
I
saw
some
slides
of
what
the
vision
is
for
the
the
walkways
and
the
sidewalks,
and
doing
something
like
this
now
I
think
the
city
might
run
into
some
problems
when
they
get
ready
to
start
rolling
out
some
of
those
ideas,
because
if
you
have
a
two
feet,
setback
at
this
time,
I
just
envisioned
that
there
might
be
some
issues.
So.
E
It
created
complaints,
it's
also
sort
of
kind
of
like
unsafe.
If
you
walk
on
the
sidewalk,
what
if
you
trip-
and
you
may
hit
that
that
fence
or
something
so
there's
multiple
issues
with
either
scenarios?
This
one
gives
you
two
feet,
at
least
from
the
sidewalk.
B
E
Received
three
of
those
requests:
one
request
what
was
drawn
completely,
so
they
decided
once
they
found
out
that
it's
five
feet
away
from
the
back
of
the
sidewalk.
They
decided
not
to
place
it
there
at
all,
the
fence
I
mean
the
other
is
still
on
hold
and
the
third
one
was
just
an
inquiry.
So
we
don't
have
that
many
of
them
when
they
said
a
few.
So
to
be
specific,
we
received
three
inquiries
regarding
the
face:
offense
placement:
okay,.
G
I
have
another
question
now
that
you
were
talking
about
thinking
forward
to
the
future.
I
was
I,
was
thinking
about
when
I
moved
to
Oldsmar
how
some
of
the
sidewalks
like
down
by
Shore
Drive,
have
been
made
a
lot
wider.
So
if
that
happens
in
the
future,
what's
going
to
happen
to
this
two
feet,
how
are
they
gonna
how's
that
going
to
be
accommodated.
E
So
again,
when
the
alignment,
when
the
new
sidewalk
and
we're
talking
about
Master
planning
for
sidewalk
of
some
sort
which
isn't
outside
of
the
scope
of
this
presentation
right
now,
it
will
be
an
engineering
firm
who
will
evaluate
the
topography
and
they
will
produce
the
alignment
that
will
meet
the
city's
code
in
the
sidewalk
or
a
trail.
Hopefully,
will
not
be
placed
right
on
the
property
line
at
that
point,
so
it
will
be
maintained.
E
It
will
be
for
consistency,
offset
at
least
five
feet
or
in
some
instances,
maybe
even
more
than
five
feet
from
the
property
line
if
right
away
permits
in
certain
certain
areas.
Again,
this
is
only
affecting
the
older
section
of
Oldsmar,
with
the
original
plot.
A
E
Property
on
this
graphic
here,
so,
if
you
see
so
in
the
front
of
the
sidewalk,
this
is
all
public
right
away
right
here,
so
that
sidewall
could
move
with
the
future
alignment
away
from
the
property
line.
When
that
sidewalk
replacement
takes
place,
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be
10
years
from
now
20
years
from
now
30
years
from
now.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
Tatiana,
seeing
no
one
here
for
comment.
B
B
Second,
thank
you
and
a
roll
call
vote
for
that
and
we'll
start
with
you
tonight.