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Hello,
Tatiana
Childress
city
of
Oldsmar
planning
under
Development
Department
director,
so
this
is
ca2301
city
of
Oldsmar
flood
ordinance,
amendments
to
Florida,
building
code
technical
amendments.
I
also
would
like
to
introduce
our
flood
plan
coordinator,
Mandy
Clark,
who
is
here
today
for
the
support,
I'll
start
with
the
presentation
and
then,
if
you
have
any
questions,
Mandy
and
I,
we
can
answer
those
questions.
So
thank
you.
E
Those
communities
that
exceed
the
minimum
requirements
are
rated
by
FEMA
in
the
community
rating
system
CRS
and
receive
flood
insurance
discounts.
So
today,
city
of
Oldsmar
is
a
class
rating
of
six,
with
verified,
with
over
2
000
verified
points,
starting
in
2013
as
part
of
the
high
regulatory
standards,
the
city
adopted
and
enforced
cumulative
over
15-year
period
for
projects
on
existing
structures.
E
So
the
15-year
cumulative
is
applicable
to
the
existing
structures
that
are
constructed
below
the
base
flat
elevation
and
any
improvements
made
on
such
structures
shall
not
exceed
the
allowable
50
value
of
the
structure
over
the
period
of
15
years.
Improvements
that
exceed
the
50
of
the
value
of
the
structure
would
require
that
structure
to
comply
with
all
of
the
current
flood
regulations
and
building
codes
and
the
basic
rule
for
structures
constructed
below
the
BFE.
E
Recent
policy
changes
allowed
communities
with
cumulative
to
exclude
certain
mitigation
and
energy
efficient
improvements
to
structures
from
cumulative
when
it
comes
to
the
overall
improvements
of
the
structure
and
determining
when
those
structures
have
been
substantially
improved,
so
those
will
be
affected
or
could
actually
take
advantage
of.
This
will
be
in
the
area
highlighted
Here
by
Pink
on
this
map.
E
So
this
is
our
special
thought,
Hazard
area
and
anybody
who's
got
a
house
in
this
area
below
constructed
below
the
base
flight
elevation
and
since
the
maps
changed,
a
lot
of
homes
that
we
have
in
Oldsmar
are
actually
below
the
BFE.
So
they
will
be
all
eligible
to
this
new
Amendment.
Take
advantage
of
this
amendment.
E
So
what
are
those
proposed
amendments
well
to
provide
exclusion
of
cost
from
cumulative
of
additional
code,
compliant
building
elements
or
alteration
or
replacement
of
materials
or
building
elements
whose
Express
purpose
is
to
mitigation?
The
Mitigation,
Of,
Future,
wind
or
flood
damage,
and
also
to
provide
exclusion
of
costs
from
cumulative
of
additional
code
compliant
energy
efficient
retrofits,
whose
Express
purpose
is
to
improvements
of
energy
efficient
of
the
building.
E
E
Again,
these
are
just
examples:
it's
not
limited
to
just
these
measures,
strengthening
of
roof
attachments
or
exterior
walls,
as
demonstrated
on
this
graphic,
replace
an
existing
materials
with
wind
and
flood
damage,
resistant
materials,
and
some
of
these
could
be
complicated.
So
building
official
at
that
point
will
have
to
review
certain
projects.
E
Another
example
is
the
machinery
and
equipment,
installation
of
flood
and
also
installation
of
flood
openings.
So
your
equipment,
your
mechanical
equipment,
like
your
AC
unit
or
in
inside
you
have
water
heaters,
so
those
could
be
elevated
below
above
the
BFE
if
they
are
currently
below
BFE
and
the
cost
could
be
excluded
then,
and
the
examples
of
code
compliant
Energy,
Efficiency
retrofits
include
things
like
solar
energy
systems,.
E
So
the
request
for
this
tax
amendment
was
reviewed
was
evaluated
against
section
3.13.2
standards
of
approval
under
the
Land
Development
code.
The
amendment
complies
with
a
comprehensive
plan
and
advances
the
purpose
of
the
Land
Development
code.
The
proposed
amendment
will
promote
the
use
of
mitigation
and
energy
efficient
improvements
that
are
code
compliant.
E
This
amendment
will
contribute
to
promote
the
community's
welfare.
The
amendment
will
allow
structures
to
be
mitigated
against
future
wind
and
flood
events,
while
maintaining
compliance
with
the
higher
regulatory
standards
of
the
nfip
in
compliance
with
all
Florida
building
code
regulations.
The
amendment
will
not
Grant
a
special
privilege
to
an
individual
property
owner.
E
B
E
F
E
This
will
be
option
for
you,
so
we
have
cumulative
in
the
city.
We
calculate
projects
that
you've
worked
on
your
house
for
the
last
15
years.
If
your
house
is
constructed
below
the
base,
flood
elevation
and
then
next
project
that,
for
instance,
you
wanted
to
remodel
your
kitchen
or
upgrade
your
bathroom,
but
at
the
same
time
you
wanted
to
say
change
all
of
your
windows
exchange
all
of
your
windows
in
your
house
to
the
higher
rating
insulated
windows
or,
for
instance,
wind
resistant.
E
So
then
the
windows
will
be
excluded
from
the
cumulative
when
we
calculate
this,
so
you
will
not
be
required
to
do
this,
but
this
is
something
that
is
an
option.
This
option
is
really
helpful
to
those
who
are
close
to
that
50
rule,
so
the
50
rule.
Basically,
so
you
have
a
structure
that
is
non-conforming.
You
can
only
improve
it
up
to
the
fifty
percent
of
the
cost
of
the
structure
of
the
market,
value
of
the
structure
alone.
So,
for
instance,
your
home
is
300
000.
You
wanted
to
do
a
project.
E
You
can
only
do
a
project
which
cost
you
150
000..
So
then,
your
kitchen
remodeling
and
bathroom
remodeling
and
all
of
the
other
items
would
cost
you
a
hundred
and
forty
thousand,
and
you
still
wanted
to
do
the
windows
and
if
the
windows
cost
say
so,
the
entire
project
say,
for
instance,
will
be
140
000,
but
the
windows
alone
would
would
be
thirty
thousand,
so
the
thirty
thousand
will
be
excluded
from
that
cumulative
when
it's
under
50
percent.
F
Years
ago
2006
we
had
what
four
or
five
hurricanes
come
to
Florida
in
2004.,
2004.
I'm.
Sorry,
that's
right
because
and
then
in
2006
the
state
came
up
with
this
program
called
my
safe
Florida,
home
and
I.
We
we
applied
for
a
grant
and
we
had
the
house
was
inspected
and
we
we
were
approved
for
a
grant
and
as
a
result
of
that
Grant
we
got
a
hurricane
proof,
not
hurricane
proof.
Whatever
hurricane
standard
garage
door,
we
got
steel
shutters
and
we
got
reinforcements
in
the
roof.
F
F
This
year,
when
we
had
hurricanes
coming,
my
wife
and
I
got
out
there
and
started
trying
to
put
up
our
shutters
because
of
our
age
and
our
arthritis
and
all
of
our
other
aches
and
pains
that
we
have
and
limitations
that
we
have.
We
couldn't
get
them
up.
We
got
two
windows
covered
and
that's
all
we
could
do
in
a
one
a
whole
day
and
I
used
to
put
them
up
all
around
the
house
in
a
half
a
day
myself.
F
So
I
can't
do
it
anymore,
so
we
thought.
Well.
Maybe
we
ought
to
look
at.
You
know
hurricane-proof
Windows,
like
you
were
talking
about.
Well,
we
could
do
that.
You
know
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
worry
about
the
shutters.
So
we
applied
again.
We
had
the
ins,
the
inspection
was
done
at
the
end
of
January.
We
got
our
report
the
other
day
and
the
report
indicated
that
there
was
a
whole
bunch
of
stuff
that
we
had
already
done.
F
E
And
they're
trying
to
make
them
more
restrictive
as
far
as
for
the
wind
or
more
resilient,
they,
they
say
because
of
the
prior
events,
so
they've
done
studies
and
I'm,
not
a
building
official
again,
but
they
have
reports
after
the
hurricane
reports,
the
studies
and
they've
seen
like
which
Clips
work
and
which
don't
so
the
Miami-Dade
standards,
they
have
higher
win
standards
and
when
they
went
and
they
checked
okay.
Why
is
it
that
you
know
siding
on
this
house?
E
Is
is
still
attached
after
the
hurricane
and
this
one
doesn't
so
they
they
did
comparative
studies
and
they
realized
that.
Well,
one
construction
used
certain
Clips
in
certain
fixtures
additions
like
Thai,
Thai,
Downs
or
whatever
they,
those
the
name
of
those
items
and
the
other
didn't
so
they've
changed
the
codes
and
the
code
was
changed.
The
building
code
was
changed
multiple
times
and
prior
to
2001.
E
Those
codes
were
very
they're,
not
strict
at
all
here
in
Florida,
it's
after
2001
that
when
they
started
looking
into
the
international
standards
and
anything
constructed,
2017
and
Beyond
is
for
Florida
it's
a
lot
different
than
anywhere
else
in
the
United
States
and
again,
if
you
compare
it
to
the
Miami-Dade
standards,
those
are
even
higher
so
each
year
you
might
have
fine.
You
might
find
something
like
when
the
building
revisions
that
go
through
the
plane
review.
You
submitted
something
in
2017.
They
changed
building
codes
in
2020,
they're,
actually,
multiple
revisions
on
the
house.
E
E
F
Well,
according
to
what
we
did
in
2006,
our
shutters
met
the
Miami-Dade
standards
at
our
our
roof,
the
latches,
whatever
they're
buried
in
the
concrete,
the
straps
come
up.
They
go
over
the
raft
and
can
bump
they
have
two
Nails
on
this
side,
One
Nail
on
that
side,
and
that
makes
that
supposedly
at
that
time,
at
the
Miami-Dade
standards.
But
now
what
I
saw
here
I
saw
this
quick
picture
looks
like
and
you
want
the
Raptors
hooked
all
the
way
to
the
ground.
A
B
A
B
E
Yes,
those
are
just
examples,
the
ones
that
I
the
the
graphics
that
you're
seeing
here.
Those
are
just
general
examples.
So
a
designer
or
a
professional
will
have
to
submit
those
items
that
he
believes
or
she
believes
qualifies
for
the
exemption
to
the
building
official
and
they
will
determine
which
items
are
included
and
which
items
are
excluded.
I'm,
demonstrating
here
very
kind
of
like
picturesque
items
like
shutters,
they
would
be
excluded
because
that's
an
additional.
A
A
C
E
So
the
entire
project
still
has
to
be
under
50,
but
it
will
not
be
counted
so
as
as,
if
so
we
have
cumulative
other
municipalities
do
not
have
cumulative
for
cumulative.
We
count
for
the
period
of
15
years.
Other
municipalities,
you
finish
one
project,
you
can
start
with
another
project
and
it
will
not
be
counted
as
against.
You
know
your
50,
so
in
this
instance
it
will
be
excluded
from
the
50
calculation,
as
if
you
don't
have
the
cumulative.
C
E
C
C
E
We
adopted
Cass
the
coastal
a-zone,
the
higher
standards
in
the
coastal,
a
Zone
similar
as
V.
So
that's
500
points
extra
points.
If
we
can
get
those
verified,
then
hopefully
we
can
be
reclassified,
so
we're
working
on
this
right
now
and
Mandy
Clark,
our
floodplain
coordinator,
so
she's
actually
working
with
the
iso
right
now
on
our
five-year
verification
cycle,
we're
hoping
that
we
can
get
a
better
class
at
the
end
of
that
verification.
E
C
E
So
there
are
certain
items
that
are
required
as
a
prerequisite
for
class
four.
That
city
is
currently
working
as
well
as
as
part
of
the
flood
as
the
master
plan
drainage
master
plan.
So
it's
a
multi-depot
departmental
it's
not
just
building,
it's
not
just
it's
also
Public
Works
and
all
of
the
projects
that
are
related
to
storm
water.
How.
C
E
It
re
it
will
provide
the
reduction
in
insurance
and
you
can
see
on
the
graphic
here,
so
the
class
three
will
give
you
under
today's
rating
35
on
your
premium.
So
if
you
look
at
your
premium
bill
for
your
flood
insurance,
you'll
see
a
CRS
rating
or
you
see
Community
rating.
It
will
show
three
or
four
in
there
with
the
with
the
discount
and
the
dollar
amount
next
to
it,
so
it
will
be
a
percentage
rate.
E
E
These
kind
of
improvements,
so
if
you
wanted
to
put
solar
system
on
your
roof
today
and
again,
this
is
only
for
homes
that
are
below
BFE
base
flood.
So
the
first
thing
we'll
do
we'll
look
at
the
elevation
certificate.
So
do
you
have
an
elevation
certificate
certificate?
What
is
the
elevation
of
your
finished
floor
elevation
in
your
house?
So
if
we
determine
that
that's
below
the
BFE,
then
you're
in
that
15-year
cumulative,
your
your
house
is
subject
to
the
50
rule,
then
we'll
look
at
either
the
cost
from
the
property
appraiser
website.
E
50
is
already
calculated
for
FEMA
there
or
would
take
your
appraisal
report
and
we'll
look
at
the
market
value
or
depreciated
value
of
that
structure.
So
it
should
be
only
on
your
appraisal,
but
it's
technically
just
a
market
value
of
the
structure
alone
and
then
so
say,
for
instance,
again
it's
300
000.
That's
your
structure,
cost
of
sorry
the
cost
of
your
structure.
So
then
150
is
your
limit
and
say
you've
already
done.
Maybe
some
improvements
over
since
2013,
so
I
have
to
mention
that
this
was
done.
E
But
at
the
same
time
you
wanted
to
say
replace
all
of
the
windows
with
the
hurricane
rated
Windows,
because
your
windows
were
not
originally
hurricane
rated
or
you
just
wanted
to
put
shutters
on
those
windows
that
are
not
hurricane
rated
in
the
main
house.
So
then,
when
we
see
your
total
cost,
that
your
contractor
will
submit
to
us
will
be,
for
instance,
140
000,
but
your
window
shutters
and
maybe
some
other
items
that
are
on
the
list
here-
will
qualify
for
the
exclusion
from
the
cumulative.
E
G
B
E
Garage
I'm
sorry
I'm
confused,
so
this
would
be
primarily
for
the
main
house
that
you
have.
If
you
have
other
structures
that
are
insured
under
the
nfip
garage,
they
don't
call
it
a
garage
when
it's
a
separate
garage
with
a
mother-in-law.
They
call
it
elevated
structure
with
the
enclosure
below
BFE.
If
you
wanted
to
have
insured,
if
you,
if
it's
a
true
garage,
then
insurance
nfip
doesn't
play
here,
you
just
have
to
make
sure
that
there's
flood
vents
it's
a
different
type
of
it's
in
a
different
category
than
what
we're
talking
here.
G
So,
for
example,
let's
say
15
years
ago,
the
house
was
a
hundred
thousand
and
someone
did
50
50
000
improvements
so
that
they
can't
do
anything
else,
because
if
they
did,
they
would
actually
at
that
time
they
would
actually
have
to
bring
everything
into
compliance.
That's
the
that's
the
Baseline
rule
right,
but
if
that,
if
that,
if
that
hundred
thousand
dollar
structure
today
is
worth
three
hundred
thousand
and
they
already
spent
50,
they
would
be,
they
would
be
able
to
spend
another
100
right.
G
E
D
H
the
clock,
you
know
it'll
it'll,
start
ticking,
so
you'll
have
let's
say
at
that
point
in
time:
an
appraisal
or
the
property
appraiser
gives
you
a
hundred
grand.
You
have
50.,
and
if
you
were
to
surpass
that,
then
you
would
have
to
bring
the
structure
into
compliance
with,
like
all
the
current
flood
regulations.
H
If
not
you
move
on
with
your
life
and
maybe
a
couple
years
later
you
have
an
appraisal
done
and
that
appraisal
reflects
a
depreciated
cost
of
structure
of,
like
you
said
three
hundred
thousand
so
then
you
would
have
50,
but
we
have
that
lingering
prior
50..
So
in
reality
you
would
have
about
a
hundred,
but
how
we
do
it
is
by
a
percentage.
So
we
could
say
you
have
used
previously
99
of
your
50
percent.
G
H
Yeah,
yes
I.
This
was
part
of
the
Dilemma
that
I've
kind
of
come
across
since
we've
really
a
lot
of
our
structures
became
non-compliant
and
the
maps
changed
and
we
actually
really
started
tracking
it.
So
what
initiated
this
was
for
the
welfare
of
the
citizens
and
them
to
be
able
to
do
these
mitigation
items,
because
exactly
what
I
was
running
into
was
that
I
was
having
to
tell
them.
H
So
that's
kind
of
what
initiated
this
whole
thing
was.
We
were
that
that
was
the
problem,
although
we're
only
10
years
into
our
15,
that's
been.
The
ongoing
scenario
is
even
though
their
values
have
increased,
they've
already
gone
through
a
substantial
amount
of
what
they
would
have
been
allowed.
So.
F
F
H
Like
I
said,
it
was
initiative
because
we
we're
running
into
those
exact
scenarios
so
to
help
provide
them
with
an
Avenue
to
still
be
able
to
do.
These
still
have
the
higher
standards.
So
it's
not
affecting
you
know
our
CRS
ratings
we're
still
higher
standard
than
what
we're
required
to
be,
but
having
a
little
bit
of
leeway.
Relief
for
them
to
be
more
resilient,
be
more
in
line
with
like
state
legislatures
where
they're
promoting
the
energy
efficient.
Like
you
said,
my
safe
Homes
Florida
with
the
the
mitigation.
A
A
A
A
But
we
definitely
need
to
think
about
the
people
that
you
know
have
done
these
things
and
you
know
is:
is
there
any
conversation
about
that
about?
If,
if
they
are
going
to
somehow
I
know
it's
been
10
years,
but
are
they
going
to
somehow
get
a
little
percentage
back
and
then
it
was
also
very
interesting.
A
Your
question
about
the
increase
in
property
value
versus
the
percentage,
and
then
the
dollar
there
are
a
lot
of
things,
I
hope
the
city's
looking
at,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
Equitable
you
know
to
to
all
the
citizens
and
and
that
some
people
aren't
aren't
getting
this.
This
discount
that
have
redone
their
homes
to
the
the
limit
where
people
that
have
held
back
because
they
you
know
want
to
save
for
a
rainy
day.
A
G
On
the
right
track
here,
but
I
think
I
think
the
the
approach
is
regrettably
flawed,
because
the
cost
of
material,
the
cost
of
building
improvements
have
gone
up
substantially.
So
if,
if
I
did
improvements
five
years
ago
and
I
hit
that
threshold
and
today
my
house
is
worth
a
tremendous
amount
more
because
it's
just
the
nature
of
the
market
and
I'm
already
at
that
threshold
and
the
threshold
is
not
based
on
the
new
appraised
value
which
I
thought
I
heard
factored
in.
E
Prevents
them
the
percentage
on
the
higher
value
is
still
a
higher
dollar
number
as
well
so,
and
just
wanted
to
mention
that
Pinellas
County
they
do
not
have
cumulative.
So
we
are
having
this
conversation
here
only
because
city
of
Oldsmar
decided
in
2013
to
go
with
the
higher
standards
of
15-year
cumulative
and
only
because
a
lot
of
our
structures
are
the
nature
of
our
elevations
here
very
low.
So
we
wanted
to
elevate
everybody.
E
So
we
don't
want
people
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
improving
some
of
these
older
homes,
but
at
the
same
time
this
is
an
option
so-
and
we
discuss
this
so
there's
another
option
is
to
change
the
cumulative,
so
we
could
change
it
to
10
years.
That's
another
ordinance
Amendment,
and
we
could
have
a
workshop
for
this
to
discuss
in
the
greater,
maybe
room,
to
see
if
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
maybe
eliminate
that
cumulative
or
reduce
it.
E
G
I
do
I
do
appreciate.
It
I
think
it's
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
but
my
my
question
was
earlier
was
that
if
I
did
improvements
and
those
improvements
historically
like,
for
example,
say
like
Bob,
his
improvements
were
all
like
shutters,
right
and
I
spent.
Let's
say:
I
spent
a
substantial
amount
and
I
met
in
90
percent
in
shutters
or
storm
windows
were
a
big
part
of
that
now
today,
I
want
to
do
a
kitchen
totally
inside
my
home,
not
part
of
anything
that
would
be
in
this
calculation.
G
E
Years
so
I
believe
we
reached
out,
and
we
said,
will
not
actually
reset
our
cumulative.
So
should
we
then
start
counting
everything
from
today
rather
than
2013.
Unfortunately,
the
answer
that
we
received
was
now
your
cumulative
was
a
higher
technical
standards
back
in
2013.
So
that's
where
you
supposed
to
keep
track
of
that
so
moving
forward
I
do
believe
the
ordinances
that
they
the
way
they
work
is
the
minute
you
sign
it
in
to
the
ordinance.
That's
when
you
can
actually
practice
it,
but
not
retro.
So.
E
Am
not
sure
they
were
not
penalized,
but
they
were
if
they
were
changing
all
of
the
windows,
for
instance
in
their
home
they
needed
to
install
shutters
if
they
were
only
install
uninstalling
half
of
them,
so
it
wasn't
tracked
and
it
wasn't
in
the
procedures
so
the
procedures
they
will
all.
So
this
is
just
a
really
brief
overview.
G
G
C
C
E
C
E
It's
been
here
so
I
think
originally
it
was
actually
not
the
third,
the
15-year
cumulative
for
the
live
structure
of
the
home.
So
then
in
2013
it
was
changed
to
15
year
accumulative
again,
there's
also
always
an
option
to
change
that.
It's
a
local
higher
technical
standard,
Pinellas
County,
as
I
mentioned
they
only
have
one
year
accumulative.
A
lot
of
municipalities
have
five-year
cumulative
or
ten,
but
depending
on
which
one
you
select.
E
F
So
that
you're
going
to
put
improvements,
you
get
a
300
000
house
and
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
neighborhood
and
you're
going
to
put
these
improvements
in
your
house,
and
these
improvements
are
going
to
cost
you
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
So
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
you
have
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
house
in
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
neighborhood.
F
A
E
A
A
G
E
We
would
still
be
limited
to
that
50
FEMA
rule,
but
that
would
be
on
either
annual
basis.
So
the
minute
you
finish
like
Pinellas
County,
the
minute
you
finish
one
project:
you
can
pretty
much
start
the
new
one
as
long
as
you're.
Still
within
that
50
of
that
current
market
value,
then
you
will
be
looking
at
that
market
value.
You
wouldn't
be
counting
percentages
at
that
point.
So.
B
A
I
I
do
hope
that
Council
will
review
the
discussion
and-
and
hopefully,
if
there
are
things
that
can
be
modified
with
the
original
as
well,
because
coming
in
with
this
I,
do
think
that
it
would
make
sense
to
take
a
look
at
possibly
retrofitting
in
some
way
a
person
that
has
been
proactive
and
done
all
these
things
and
to
the
to
the
detriment
of
their
new
kitchen.
And
now
this
is
you
know,
coming
in
for
people
that
got
their
new
kitchen,
but
now
they
get
their.
You.
C
B
F
A
F
It
doesn't
read
that
way.
It
doesn't
read
that
way,
but
that's
not
that's
not
what
it
says
to
me
because
Tatiana
just
said
a
while
ago,
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
do
a
kitchen
Etc
and
you
go
up
to
what
do
you
say-
140
000,
but
you
put
in
a
twenty
thousand
dollar
kitchen
you're
over
those
250
limit.
So
that
sounds
like
it
doesn't
matter.
This
is
included.
Isn't
that
what
exclusion
of
cost
is?
That's
I
read
that.
E
And
the
50
rule
is
not
something
that
we
locally
enforce.
This
is
a
FEMA
rule,
FEMA,
50
and
also
I
think.
The
reason
behind
that
is
because
you
don't
want
to
necessarily
Place
those
higher
rated
windows
in
an
older
home
and
not
doing
any
other
improvements,
so
you
will
have
only
Windows
left
when
the
hurricane
comes
through.
So
it's
very
difficult.
It's
very.
We
have
a
unique
situation
here,
so
this
is
all
sort
of
new
to
me
because
I've
only
been
with
the
city
as
a
CFM
for
three
years.
E
Obviously
these
regulations,
1976
and
1992,
is
when
we
adopted
the
CRS
higher
regulatory
standards.
So
it's
been
with
the
city
in
the
community
for
quite
some
time
now,
so
it
seems
like.
Maybe
we
can
do
a
workshop
so
that
newer
residents
that
are
coming
in
here
they
understand
how
the
50
femur
works.
We
had
the
work
session
before,
but
the
problem
is,
residents
usually
are
really
interested
in
this
when
it
affects
their
own
home.
So
when
they're
thinking
about
doing
a
project
till
then
they
learn
all
about
the
50.
E
A
That
might
be
a
good
idea.
I
mean
it
is
just
coming
back
to
the
the
item.
The
agenda
item
that
we
have
here
it
did
seem
very
simple
to
me
until
I
heard
some
of
the
discussion
and
I
appreciate
that
and
perhaps
going
into
Council,
maybe
something
that
makes
it
a
little
bit
clearer.
I
hope
that
some
of
the
comments
that
you've
heard
have
have
helped.
You
see,
you
know
how
you
could
present
it.
Where
sure.
E
G
Well,
I
would
like
them
to
suggest.
The
motion
includes
a
recommendation
to
council
that
they
revisit
the
way
things
are
calculated.
If
it's
you
know,
if
there's
a
cost
basis,
then
maybe
a
cost
basis
should
be
reset
based
on
current
market
values.
There
should
be
some
semblance
of
that
factored
in
and
I
say
that,
because
if
I
were
selling
the
house
to
somebody
and
they
found
out,
they
couldn't
make
improvements
unless
it
was
gonna,
unless
it's
basically
turned
it
into
a
demolition,
and
the
value
of
my
house
would
be
worth
a
lot.
Less
can.
G
C
F
B
C
C
E
This
is
not
new.
This
is
actually
an
improvement
to
allow
residents
to
install
Windows
to
install
other
solar
panels
to
allow
certain
items,
but
still
keeping
the
cumulative
at
15.
FEMA
rule
is
still
going
to
be
in
place
cumulative.
That's
something
that
when
I
mentioned
that's
something
that
we
can
discuss,
and
maybe
that
could
be
as
a
city-wide
Amendment
again.
We
could
reduce
that
cumulative
that
will
help
those
people
that
installed
something,
for
instance,
nine
years
ago,
if
we
change
it
to
10
and
they're
at
that
10-year
Mark.
E
So
they
can
do
another
project
and
they
will
start
over.
So
that's
when
we're
going
to
use
the
market
value
and
the
50
again
and
the
clock
starts
again,
so
it
could
be
reduced
even
further
to
five
years
or
it
could
be
reduced
to
one
year
like
Pinellas
County
we're
here
only
because
we
have
the
cumulative
but
we're
trying
to
make
improvements,
we're
trying
to
make
it
easier
for
residents
to
actually
have
their
home
improvements
in
at
the
same
time,
hurricane
hardening.
So
prior.
E
I
mentioned
prior
to
2013,
we
have
for
the
life
of
the
structure.
We
had
a
cumulative
that
was
for
the
entire
life
of
the
structure,
so
all
of
the
projects
were
counted
when
the
project
was
built.
If
it
was
non-compliant,
so
we
didn't
have
a
mark
everything
for
20
years,
25
years
for
the
life
of
the
structure,
everything
was
counted
against.
E
F
E
F
C
G
H
On
the
point
of
bfp
and
the
map
changes,
I
did
want
to
mention
because
I
neglected
this
earlier.
If
your
home
was
previously
compliant
we're
not
going
the
maps,
hadn't
changed
since
20
2009
2003,
so
none
anyway.
So
if
your
house
was
compliant
at
that
point,
that
wasn't
being
counted
against
you.
Yes,.
H
H
Where
they
sat
at
seven
feet
and
they
were
below
and
they've
always
been
below,
not
a
huge
number
of
those,
but
I
am
still
like
with
the
map.
Changes
starting
to
run
into
a
lot
of
the
issues
where
they
do
want
to
do.
Windows
are
expensive,
doors
are
expensive,
garage
doors
are
expensive,
so
they
want
to
do
these
things,
but
they
don't
want
to
use
up
all
of
their
cumulative
that
they're
allowed
to
use
for
the
future.
E
H
I
That's
how
I
think
I'm
seeing
it
kind
of
the
opposite
of
how
you're
seeing
it
as
far
as
property
value
like
if
I've
remodeled
my
house,
put
an
addition
on
and
I've
reached.
My
50
but
I
didn't
do
anything
with
the
windows
and
now,
like
you,
were
saying,
it's
tiring,
putting
up
those
big
plywood
boards,
so
I'd
like
to
replace
the
windows,
but
if
I
did
that
I
would
be
over.
A
Mean
yeah,
I
I
think
it
can
I
think
that
was
the
the
good
intention
behind
the
idea
of
this
badly
I
think
a
lot
of
people
look
at
kitchens
more
than
they
look
at
safety
in
the
home.
So
you
know
it
just
depends
on
who
your
buyer
is,
but
I
think
that
that
what
we're
looking
at
today
is
whether
we
want
to
afford
that
right
to
someone.
So
you
had.
You
had
amended
that
to
say
to
look
at
other
amendments
that
would
be
based
on
current
market
value.
A
B
F
So
we
can
get
more
clarification
until
somebody
can.
You
know,
because
we've
had
so
many
questions,
I
mean
so
many
questions.
So
it's
obvious
that
that
we're
we're
not
we're
not
Savvy
to
what's
what
what
this
really
really
is
means
and
does
so.
My
I
was
going
to
make
a
motion
to
table
the
item,
but
we've
already
got
a
motion
on
the
floor
right
now.
So.
G
G
One
of
those
two
is
going
to
be
true.
So
if
we
pass
this
and
city
council
passes
it,
then
that
enables
them
to
do
those
kind
of
improvements
without
affecting
their
their
cumulative,
without
throwing
them
over
that
threshold
and
forcing
them
to
do
everything
which
may
prohibit
them
from
doing
anything.