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C
E
E
E
The
agenda
is
accepted.
Thank
you
now,
we'll
move
on
to
staff
comments.
Patrick
has
covered
them
in
some
detail
in
them
in
a
memo
that
was
in
the
agenda
packet,
but
now
he'll
speak
further.
I
assume.
A
Yeah,
so
I
just
have
a
couple
of
updates
to
my
update.
So,
first
of
all,
with
regard
to
council
meeting
topics,
the
planning
department
did
create
a
survey
to
get
more
input
on
their
the
general
plan
priorities.
So
I
imagine
that
they'll
be
getting
some
additional
input
from
businesses
on
that
front.
So
we'll
see
if
they
get
any
comments
on
the
existing
priority
language
yeah.
The
this
is.
A
The
council
did
have
a
few
general
comments
about
it
and
they
were
actually
all
more
sustainably
oriented
like
not
promoting
traffic,
not
promoting
parking
downtown,
and
things
like
that
and
walkability,
and
things
like
that,
so
so
very
much
in
support
of
some
of
the
changes
that
we
made
to
that
document,
as
well
as
at
additional
changes
that
they'd
like
to
see
that
are
more
sustainability
oriented.
A
The
second
thing
is
for
the
meeting
coming
up
this
week.
The
ebay
streamlining
permitting
agenda
item
was
not
included,
so
I
assume
that
will
go
on
to
the
november
agenda
and
then
the
other
thing
is.
I
wanted
to
mention
that
I
will
be
doing
a
short
presentation
on
a
street
lighting
project
by
southern
california
edison.
They
are
converting
the
rest
of
our
street
lights
over
to
leds,
and
so
there's
about
500
remaining
street
lights
that
they're
going
to
work
on,
probably
in
november
to
december
time
frame.
C
A
So
they
one
of
the
items
that's
included
in
the
priorities
in
the
general
plan
is
some
language.
I
think
it
says
something
about
promoting
parking
downtown
and
they
said
we
absolutely
don't
want
to
do
that,
like
that.
Okay,
okay,
where
we're
going
so
yeah.
A
So
so
that's
it
on
the
council
topics.
I
did
want
to
just
report
that
we
had
a
very
successful
shredding
and
e-waste
event.
A
A
big
thank
you
to
commissioner
miller,
who
came
and
stayed
through
about
10
30,
helped
us
out
a
lot
in
terms
of
direct
and
traffic
and
dan,
and
I
were
there
for
the
full
duration
and
we
were
joined
by
gary
for
a
little
while
in
the
morning,
and
he
looked
great.
So
we
appreciate
his
help
in
helping
us
get
set
up
for
that
and
to
make
sure
that
that
all
flowed
smoothly.
So
so
I
don't
have
numbers
yet
on
that
event,
but
hopefully
we'll
get
them.
A
We
might
be
able
to
get
them
this
week
in
advance
of
the
council
meeting,
but
but
it
was
very
successful
and
people
were
there
until
the
paper
end.
C
All
right,
yeah,
patrick
I
bone
question
sure
I
got
a
message
from
my
friend
brad
fur,
who
runs
a
media
outlet
and
he
said
he
received
the
news
release
from
amy
blaisdell
on
october
14th,
and
it
was
he
complaining
to
me
that
that
wasn't
enough
time
for
him
to
do
anything.
So
I
it
sounds
like
it
was
successful,
but
I
don't
know
if
he
just
got
mixed
up
but
didn't
get
the
original
communications.
But
if
we're
setting
up
news
releases
on
the
14th
for
an
event
on
the
17th
was
a
little
concern.
A
Well,
so
we
advertised
that
primarily
through
nextdoor
and
facebook
and
then
amy
was
out
actually
for
a
good
part
of
the
week.
So
I
sent
it
to
her.
I
think
I
had
gotten
it
to
her
earlier,
but
she
was
not
in
the
office
until
that
wednesday,
okay,
I'll
pass.
A
That
that
that
pro
formal
press
release
got
a
little
bit
of
a
late
notice,
but
but
I
only
heard
from
actually
a
couple
people
who
said
that
they
didn't
hear
about
it.
So
so
I
thought
that
was
a
pretty
good.
Pretty
good
turnout.
G
Yeah,
since
you
had
mentioned
the
eevee,
the
eevee
ordinance
of
the
ab1236
this
morning
I
attended.
I
was
going
to
cover
that
under
eevee
charger.
That
actually
is
more
related
to
the
city
council.
So
this
morning
there
was
a
very
helpful
cal
evp
ip
workshop
on
streamline
permitting,
which
is
exactly
the
1236
ordinance.
I
should
receive
the
slides
tomorrow
and
I'll
forward
them
over
to
you.
There's
a
lot
of
information,
particular
about
accessibility
for
handicapped.
G
So
what
I'd
like
to
do,
particularly
since
there's
a
little
bit
more
time,
because
we've
got
three
weeks
in
between
thursday's
council
meeting
and
the
next
one
is
I'll.
Take
a
look
at
the
draft
ordinance
based
on
what
was
on
the
agenda
from
march
and
pulled,
and
let
you
know
if
there's
a
I'll,
send
you
over
the
slides
but
use
that
just
to
double
check
what
the
ordinance
says.
The
draft,
if
there's
anything
else,
that
I
think
that
we
should
we
should
include.
E
Thank
you,
patrick.
The
next
item
is
public
comments.
This
is
time
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
sustainability
commission
on
agenda
items
and
items.
Items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction,
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
commission
values.
Your
comments
about
pursuant
to
the
brown
act
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Three
minutes
are
a
sign
for
each
speaker.
E
I
guess
not,
and
we
don't
have
any
presentations
this
evening,
so
we'll
move
on
to
acceptance
of
the
meeting
minutes
from
the
september
15th
meeting
the
minutes
were
emailed
and
posted
on
thursday
october
15th.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes
from
that
meeting.
G
Yeah
sure
clark,
I'd
like
to
move
acceptance
of
the
minutes
of
our
september
15th
meeting
and
I
did
send
two
very
minor
corrections
in
one
was
a
slight
tweak
to
the
reference
to
the
scpe
reach
code,
which
was
actually
after
the
meeting
and
I'll
talk
about
that
later
and
second
on
dce
I
was
the
one
who
made
the
comment
and
not
commissioner
baker.
So
with
those
two
small
corrections,
I'd
like
to
move
acceptance
of
the
minutes
and
I've
already
sent
those
corrections
into
daniel
and
patrick.
H
E
Okay,
thank
you
all
in
favor
of
accepting
the
minutes,
please
say:
aye
aye
any
discussion,
further
discussion.
E
A
Sure
so,
just
some
updates
on
a
few
fronts
again:
disposable
food,
wear
and
plastic
waste
reduction
ordinance.
That
is
a
little
bit
on
hold
right
now.
So
I
will
try
to
coordinate
with
council
members
to
figure
out
how
they
want
to
move
that
forward.
It's
it's
just
increasingly
difficult
as
we
go
back
and
forth
with
these
different
tiers
and
businesses
go
up
and
down
it.
Just
it
just
makes
a
challenging
situation
even
more
challenging,
so
so
we'll
see
how
that
progresses.
A
The
in
terms
of
the
climate
action
roadmap
david
and
I
have
been
working
on
just
keeping
that
document
up
to
date
and
based
on
the
things
that
are
happening,
and
so
we
continue
to
update
that.
We
had
hoped
to
get
it
onto
the
agenda
for
the
eighth,
and
that
did
not
happen,
and
so
now
we
we
are
gonna,
wait
until
november,
most
likely
when
commission
council
member
hostage
is
back
from
maternity
leave.
So
it's
my
understanding,
she'll
be
back
in
november.
A
We
should
be
post
post-election
then
so
so
that'll
also
be
important
for
us
to
know
in
terms
of
who's
going
to
be
on
the
council
next
so
anyway.
So
that'll
come
back
to
the
council
agenda
and
I'll
work
with
leadership
here
to
figure
out
the
timing
of
that.
A
At
this
point
it
may
make
sense
to
just
defer
it
until
december
and
when
we
hopefully
have
the
results
of
the
greenhouse
gas
inventory,
and
we
can
probably
have
a
more
robust
discussion
about
where
we
are
and
where
we're
going
in
terms
of
the
numbers,
so
so
we'll
play
that
by
year
in
terms
of
getting
that
back
on
the
council
agenda
and
I'll
again
I'll
work
with
leadership
to
to
figure
out
the
timing
of
that
any
questions
about
that.
A
A
The
inventory
continues.
The
thing
that
we're
waiting
for
at
the
moment
is
the
information
from
southern
california
edison
on
our
2018
and
2019
numbers.
So
I
have
requested
those
it's
kind
of
a
process
for
them
to
get
them
to
us.
So
we're
expecting
those
probably
late
this
month,
early
next
month,
so
hopefully
we'll
have
those
by
early
november
so
that
they
can
continue
on
their
analysis
for
the
current
numbers,
as
well
as
the
projection
projections
for
2020..
A
So
continue
to.
Let
you
know
about
that
and
that's
all
I
have
for
old
business.
A
So
I
had
very
much
hope
to
have
for
you
a
scope
of
work
to
approve
from
our
preferred
vendor
for
the
ev
charger
expansion.
However,
they
were
out
here
last
week
for
a
site
visit
and
we
came
up
with
lots
of
other
ideas
about
phasing
and
number
of
chargers
and
things
like
that,
so
they're
kind
of
going
back
to
develop
a
best
and
final
proposal
for
us,
and
I
was
hoping
that
we
were
going
to
get
that
so
that
we
could
have
it
in
time
for
the
november
council
meeting.
A
But
it
does
not
look
like
that's
gonna
happen.
So
hopefully,
in
our
november
meeting
I'll
have
something
to
talk
about
with
you
guys
in
more
detail
about
that,
and
then
we
can
move
it
forward
to
council,
hopefully
in
december.
C
I
do
so
I'm
curious
about
the
new
ev
superchargers
that
are
going
in
at
the
bank
of
america
building
and
their
business
model
is
to
put
350
kw
charges
which
I've
never
heard
of
before,
but
they're
brand
brand
new
and
they
seem
to
be
dead
in
the
water.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
facilitate
that
you're,
aware
of
or
what's
going
on
with
those.
A
So
it's
interesting.
You
asked
that
question
because
I
have
been
kind
of
monitoring
that
because
they
approached
us
a
while
back
when
they
were
installing
them
and
kind
of
wanted
to
make
a
make
a
big
deal
of
it,
and
these
are
the
fastest
chargers
on
the
planet
and
right.
We
should
the
very
first
time.
Actually
this
is
the
first
time
they've
ever
used
them.
A
So
so
it
would
be
this
kind
of
a
big
deal,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
things
aren't
going
as
planned
on
the
operation
or,
if
they're
just
waiting,
so
I
was
going
to
actually
circle
back
with
them
to
find
out
the
status.
So
I
I'll
report
back
to
the
the
count
the
commission
on
that,
because
I
was
curious
as
well,
because
I
I
assume
right
now.
C
A
Yeah
it
was,
it
was
actually
kind
of
an
interesting
situation,
they
were,
they
were
all
gung-ho
for
it
and
then
they
kind
of
want
publicity,
and
so
they
were
they
would
let
us
know
so,
I'm
not
sure,
not
sure
exactly
where
that
is
so
I'll
reach
out
to
the
folks
that
contacted
me
and
see
if
I
can
get
some
clarity
on
that.
A
Sure,
all
right
and
and
david
just
fyi,
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
talking
a
lot
about
in
the
the
approach
for
the
ev
charger
expansion
is
ada
compliance
and
so
there's
a
fairly
fair
amount
of
requirements
that
we
have
to
go
through.
With
regard
to
based
on
the
number
of
chargers
that
we
install.
So
that's
what
we're
kind
of
struggling
with
in
a
few
locations
is
kind
of
how
to
meet
that
requirement
in
the
space
that
we
have
so.
G
And
that
was
you'll
see
some
very
good
slides.
It
was
a
representative
of
the
state
division
of
the
state
architect
who
spoke
for
close
to
20
minutes
and
there's
some
very
detailed
slides
that
outline
the
requirements.
So
that's
good
for
you
just
to
sort
of
have
a
checklist
of
what
those
requirements
are,
and
apparently
there
will
be
even
more
requirements
going
into
effect
next
july.
G
One
in
in
in
january
also
then
set
over
to
you,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
and
of
course
they
did
confirm
that
city
install
chargers
are
are
subject
to
those
requirements.
So
yes,
that's.
That
was
a
large
part
of
the
the
talking
this
morning.
I'll
get
those
slides
over
here.
I
should
have
them
tomorrow.
Okay,.
A
All
right,
and
so
I'm
just
checking
commissioner
miller,
did
you
make
it
back
in
I've?
Seen
a
couple
of
attempts.
Attempts
no.
B
Had
a
problem
with
a
zoom
meeting
a
couple
of
days
ago,
and
I
thought
I
had
corrected
it,
I've
done
and
you
know,
rebooted
everything
and
actually
went
to
spectrum.
B
A
B
B
B
B
A
Okay,
all
right,
we
shall
move
on
and
the
next,
let's
see
so
so.
As
I
mentioned,
the
ev
charger
expansion
is
still
a
work
in
progress.
It
is
significantly
more
complicated
than
I
had
ever
imagined
so
anyway,
so
we're
working
through
it
with
the
engineering.
Folks
and
again,
I
hope
to
have
something
concrete
for
you
guys
next
month.
A
So
the
next
thing
I
wanted
to
talk
about
and
get
your
feedback
on
is
the
sustainability
scholarship
program
idea.
I
have
been
kind
of
toying
with
this
idea
for
a
while.
A
Originally
we
were
trying
to
get
a
grant
from
the
state
on
reusable
food
wear,
and
so
I
was
hoping
to
do
something
through
that
and
get
money
to
to
businesses
to
help
them
with
that,
but
that
did
not
work
out,
and
so
I,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
just
allocate
some
money
from
sustainability
and
from
the
recycling
budgets
to
help
some
businesses
out
that
are
trying
to
basically
do
the
right
thing.
A
So
so
what
I
had
envisioned
was
a
plan,
or
a
program
like
like
I
mentioned
here,
is,
would
be
available
for
any
licensed
business.
Who
was
doing
something?
Sustainability
related,
including
helping
them
pay
for,
for
example,
their
recycling
and
their.
A
A
The
other
thing
that
people
aren't
as
aware
of
is
is
the
requirement
from
the
state
to
have
recycling
containers
in
their
stores
for
people
that
are
inside
their
restaurants,
in
particular,
for
people
that
eat
on
site
and
manage
their
own
waste,
so
mostly
fast
food
restaurants,
but
anyway
they
could
use
that
for
for
containers,
recycling,
containers
and
things
like
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
input
on
this
see
if
you
had
any
thoughts
or
suggestions
on
the
scope
of
the
program
level
of
funding
applicability.
D
Yes,
I
had
a
couple
of
comments
on
it.
First
was
that
the
the
material
said
the
maximum
scholarship
would
be
500.
and
for
the
available
funds
you
identified
there,
that's
200
projects
that
seemed
like
a
pretty
optimistic
target.
For
me,
I
would
kind
of
rather
see
a
thousand
dollars
and
100
good
projects,
and
that
was
my
comment
on
funding.
D
I
thought
the
examples
were
really
good
and
helpful
in
terms
of
the
form
there
of
the
kinds
of
projects
that
would
be
interested
in
the
first
one,
that
that
management
aspect
isn't
really
a
lasting
effect,
and
I
think
so.
I
would
encourage
that
only
be
eligible
for
part
of
the
scholarship
but
which,
which
was
that
sorry,
the
it's
on
your
next
page,
okay,.
D
Recycling
and
organic
management
fees
so
those
fee-
you
know
if
we
give
all
the
money
to
management
fees,
then
when
the
grant
or
scholarship
ends,
we
have
no
guarantee
that
that
will
continue.
So
I'd
rather
see
just
a
portion
be
able
to
go
to
management
fees
and
the
others
have
to
go
to
some
kind
of
more
permanent
solution.
B
D
D
And
I
thought
there
should
be
a
a
brief,
not
an
onerous
proposal
from
the
the
person
seeking
the
scholarship
and
then
an
approval
from
the
commission.
And
then
the
reimburse
reimbursement
form
which
you
provided
in
the
media.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
good
point.
I
had
actually
thought
about
that
and
thought
that
it
was
probably
a
good
idea
for
us
to
get
something
to
approve
just
so
that
we
were
so.
Somebody
didn't
spend
money
that
they
we
weren't,
going
to
reimburse
them
for.
D
Right
and
maybe
we
would
do
like
a
brief,
webinar
or
zoom
meeting
to
kind
of
explain
the
scholarship
program
to
businesses
and
at
an
appropriate
venue
where
they
would
actually
show
up
for
a
meeting
and
if
there
were
a
subcommittee
form
to
kind
of
review
those
proposals,
and
do
that.
I
would
be
happy
to
volunteer
to
be
on
that.
Okay,.
G
Yeah,
patrick
as
david,
I
can
work
with
you
on
the
list
of
sort
of
or
potential
items
for
energy,
efficient
or
water
efficient
equipment.
I
think
if
somebody
wants
to
install
an
ev
charger
that
should
qualify
it's
sort
of
broadly
energy,
efficient
or
add
some
solar
panels.
G
Water
efficiency
could
be
things
like.
You
know,
landscaping
where
there's
a
rebate
from
dwa,
but
additional
money
could
always
help
or
potentially
those
flowless
toilets,
which
also,
I
think
ddw
had
and
perhaps
still
does
offer
rebates
for.
So
we
can
work
on
that
and
obviously
for
water
efficient.
We
should
run
that
via
by
ashley
in
particular,
to
make
sure
that
we're
gonna
fall
on
the
same
page
for
any
water.
So
I'm
happy
to
work
with
you
on
that
on
those
specific
things
and
come
up
with
at
least
some.
G
E
Right,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea,
especially
since
we
weren't
able
to
get
the
grant
that
you
had
been
working
on
previously.
E
E
I
think
one
thing
I
was
thinking
about
is
our
perennial
problem
of
actually
getting
the
word
out
and
having
it
received
and
going
down
a
little
bit
deeper.
I
think
one
good
use
of
this
funding
might
be
for
our
gardeners,
we're
more
than
a
year
into
the
ban
on
gas-powered
blowers.
They
bought
their
their
battery-powered
blowers,
but
probably
a
lot
of
them
need
to
buy
replacement
batteries
right
and
those
are
pretty
expensive.
So
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
be
able
to
get
the
word
out
to
to
that
group
of
businesses.
E
I
know
it's
it's
hard,
but
you
worked
hard
at
it
right
after
you
started
when
we
were
starting
the
program,
so
I
think
that's
something
that
really.
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
we
will.
We
would
definitely
do
some
radio
ads
for
that
and
try
to
get
the
word
out.
That
way,
that
was
seemed
to
be
pretty
effective
so
and
the
state
rebates
still
applied
too.
So
so,
if
they
wanted
to
turn
in
a
gas
one,
they
can
still
get
the
money
discounted
units
for
that,
and
then
they
could
get
the
whole
cost
covered
with
something
like
this.
H
Oh,
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
join
in
and
help
on
that,
and
I
do
like
the
idea
of
reducing
the
number
but
increasing
it
from
500
to
a
thousand
take,
for
example,
if
you
were
needing
to
purchase
and
go
into
the
reusable
food
ware
or
any
of
them,
but
in
that
one
in
particular,
five
hundred
dollars
going
from
zero
and
in
is
only
going
to
get
you,
but
a
thousand
dollars
for
a
small
business
could
really
get
all
of
your
packaging
and
everything
and
you
could
be
able
to
get
enough.
H
A
All
right,
so
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
revise
this
and
send
it
back
around
to
everybody
and
I'll,
probably
maybe
send
it
to
greg
and
to
sandra
first.
Just
to
give
you
guys
a
quick
look
and
then
we'll
send
it
around
to
the
group
for
final,
a
final
look
and
then
I
would
like
to
get
it
onto
the
agenda
for
november
november
council
meeting
so
I'll
turn
that
around
this
week
and
then
we'll
put
the
staff
report
together
next
week.
B
A
That's
a
good
question.
I
don't
know
how
long
they've
been
lasting.
I
know
that
typically,
the
the
I
don't
know
the
less
robust
ones
that
I've
used
have
only
lasted
a
couple
of
years,
so
I
think
we're
probably
getting
too
close
to
the
end
of
the
the
useful
life
for
some
of
those.
I
did
see
a
few
of
them
show
up
in
at
the
drop-off
this
weekend,
so
so
we
might
be
seeing
some
some
more
of
those
I
can
ask.
A
I
can
also
ask
the
the
lawn
care
guy
the
at
yoshi's.
He
should
know
that
too
so.
E
A
Okay,
all
right!
Any
other
questions
comments.
All
right!
Super
well,
we'll
put
that
together,
so
that
that's
ready
again
ready
to
go
to
council
next
week.
I
I
I'll
run
it
by
folks
internally,
just
to
make
sure
there's
nothing
that
I'm
missing
in
terms
of
I
don't
know
eyes
and
t's
and
and
crossing
all
the
necessary
things
doing
crossing
the
necessary
bridges
to
get
this
done
so.
G
Okay,
I
can
start
off
on
that
so
lots
of
webinars
in
addition
to
this
morning's
90-minute
webinar
on
on
ev
charger,
permitting
I've
been
continuing
with
my
webinar
attendance,
see
what
other
local
jurisdictions
are
doing
in
the
energy
field.
So,
as
I
mentioned
earlier
on
september
29th,
I
was
a
speaker
at
the
sec
scene,
webinar
on
reach
codes
and
reported
on
our
progress
and
the
slides
from
that
webinar
are
in
the
packet
we
had
about.
G
30
people
from
various
jurisdictions
attending,
including
a
representative
from
palm
desert
from
our
area,
was
online.
So
thank
that
was
good.
A
good
attendance
reach
code
team
had
a
webinar
last
wednesday
on
cost
effectiveness
of
residential
retrofits,
including
some
of
the
measures
that
were
discussed
in
draft
climate
action
roadmap.
So,
as
patrick
mentioned,
I'm
sort
of
keeping
that
up
to
date
so
I'll
update
the
cost
effect
in
this
chart
and
draft
staff
report.
Once
the
new
version
of
the
reach
code
study
is
is
released
next
month.
G
If
that's
well
in
time
for
the
november
council
meeting.
That's
on
that
agenda,
if
not
I'll,
obviously
continue
to
keep
that
up
to
date
and
also
on
the
reach
code
side.
I've
been
asked
by
the
reach
codes
team
to
serve
as
a
beta
tester
for
their
new
cost
effectiveness,
app
that's
on
their
website,
so
patrick,
if
you
let
me
know,
if
that's
okay,
so
I
can
get
advanced
access
to
the
app
data
and
and
features
so
that'll
sort
of
help
keep
up
the
information
up
to
date.
G
A
So
one
comment
I
had
on
that
david
was:
do
you
think
it's
worth,
including
in
there
some
reference
to
the
sce
program
that
if
they
still
offer
it
to
do
some
sort
of
a
free
energy,
audit
or
free
energy
assessment?
Do
you
know
if
they
still
do
that.
G
What
I
am
aware
about
and
that's
a
sort
of
getting
to
the
dce
side,
but
it's
something
called
the
esa
energy
savings
assistance
program
and
it's
for
careful
customers,
and
so
I'm
aware
of
that,
I
don't
think
there
is
anything
available
for
regular
customers
and
and
it's
tricky
for
between
dc
and
sce.
But
I
know
the
psa
is
still
available,
but
the
cpuc
suspended
it
in
in
may
because
of
covet
or
maybe
even
earlier
april,
because
of
covid,
and
I
don't
think
it's
come
back
online.
G
Yet
so,
let's
hold
off
on
that
and
I've
got
a
on
the
dc
side.
I
call
in
with
that
with
benjamin
on
thursday
to
talk
about
various
things
so
we'll
cover
that
perhaps
in
the
dc
side,
patrick
and
then,
if
I
get
any
more
information,
you
can
also
add
a
website
or
you
know,
tweet
the
form
if
necessary,
sounds
good.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that's
it
for
there
and
and
so
once
that's
launched.
G
Then
we'll
do
some
publicity
with
a
a
press
release
from
maybe
blaze
dylan
at
the
school
speaking
publicize
it
in
our
office,
neighborhoods
report
and
finally
patrick
and
I
have
are
continuing
the
discussions
with
national
renewable
energy
lab
about
their
streamlined
solar
app,
and
we
have
another
call
tomorrow
afternoon
and
we'll
be
joined
by
the
building
division
staff
person
who
handles
solar
permits
and
if
she's
interested,
hopefully
palm
springs,
can
sign
up
as
a
beta
tester
for
that
program,
and
it
is
part
of
just
sort
of
automizing
make
less
work
for
the
for
folks
in
the
building
division
and
the
solar
installer
gets
immediate
permit
and
their
fees
are
about
twenty
to
fifty
dollars.
G
A
So
I,
the
big
thing
that
we
were
working
on
this
past
month
was
the
annual
report
to
the
state
that
documents
our
waste
sent
to
landfills
and
our
recycling
activities.
A
That
report
is
quite
lengthy
and
involves
data
from
lots
of
different
sources.
I
did
want
to
just
mention
at
a
high
level
the
recycling
and
waste
to
landfill
numbers,
and
let
me
just
minimize
you
guys,
so
hopefully
you
can
see
the
chart
here.
It
has
two
things
on
it,
so
the
big
orange
bars
are
the
total
waste
that
we
send
to
landfills
each
year,
and
this
I
tried
to
do
it
back
to
2009
and
so
just
to
show
you
a
a
trend
in
increasing
amounts
of
waste
going
to
landfill.
A
The
other
line
that
you
see
the
gray
line
in
the
middle
is
our
per
capita
disposal
rate,
so
that
has
gone
from
about
seven
or
so
6.7,
I
think,
was
the
lowest
point
and
now
we're
we
hover
around
9.1
is
is
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now
in
terms
of
the
per
capita
disposal
rate,
and
so
that's
9.1
pounds
per
person
per
day
and
then
the
target
that
we
have,
which
is
set
by
the
state,
is
that
yellow
line
at
the
top,
which
is
about
13.7
or
13.9.
A
So
we
are
still
well
below
the
target
that
the
state
has
set
for
us.
So
that's
the
good
news
and
then
the
bad
news
is
that
that
the
kind
of
waste
disposal
rates
are
creeping
up
so
again,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
continuing
to
promote
recycling
and
waste
reduction
efforts
and
making
sure
that
we
do
that,
especially
as
we
go
forward
here.
A
I'm
sure
that
2020
is
going
to
be
a
strange
year,
so
we'll
see
how
those
numbers
work
out
for
us,
given
all
the
people
that
were
staying
home
and
the
increase
in
trash
that
we've
seen
on
the
residential
side,
so
we'll
just
have
to
see
how
it's
different
for
or
how
that
affects
our
our
numbers
going
forward.
H
A
So
I
do
not
know
there's
the
program
has
been
pretty
steady,
all
the
way
along,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
big
increase
in
businesses,
because
if
you
look
at
sort
of
our
the
growth
in
the
city,
you
know
2009
was,
of
course
the
recession
and
then
2010
to
2013-14
was
kind
of
our
bill
to
build
back.
A
And
then
I
don't
know
if
we
had
a
big
spike
in
business
openings
in
2016,
2017
or
not,
but
that
that
could
be
associated
with
an
increase
in
business
and
maybe
a
little
bit
in
population.
I
did
look
at
the
population
numbers
and
they
are
up
a
little
bit
from
where
they
were
in
2009,
but
not
a
lot.
So
maybe
maybe
a
couple
thousand
people.
So
it's
not
a
huge
increase
in
population,
but
it
does.
It
is
a
little
bit
so
not
not
clear
what
the
what
the
big
change
is.
G
2017
was
probably
the
the
year
that
most
of
downtown
the
wrong
number
of
the
downtown
open.
So
I
I
can't
say
that,
but
that
is
a
change.
The
downtown
kind
of
got
going
around
tuesday
2017.,
so
that
may
be
in
effect.
That
may
be
at
least
partly
the
cause
of
the
month.
A
Yeah,
that's
a
great
good,
great
point.
Jim
did
you
have
your
hand
up.
C
Yeah,
I
I
I
for
me
it
jumped
into
my
head
that
that's
amazon
and
amazon
sales
went
from
30
billion
to
60
billion
during
that
period.
Really,
and
that's
that's
ten
thousand
I
mean
my
neighbors.
Cash
cans
are
filled
with
boxes
and
styrofoam
and
I
think
that's
the
bulk
of
their
trash
at
amazon.
So
that's
my
goal.
A
Interesting,
I
didn't
realize
they
had
such
a
spike.
C
A
Yeah
yeah:
well,
hopefully,
it
means
a
spike
in
our
recycling
numbers,
which
is
not
necessarily
the
case
so
so
the
other
chart
that
I
have
here
is
our
curbside
residential
recycling
and
green
waste.
Curbside
collection-
and
I
just
there's
a
lot
of
other
numbers
that
are
reported
in
that
report,
but
these
are
some
of
the
easier
ones
to
to
to
come
by
and
these
are
reported
by
palm
street's
disposal
services.
A
So
it's
helpful
because
they
kind
of
know
the
history
here
so
anyway,
you'll
see
that
from
2016
to
2019
we're
pretty
steady
in
the
mid
4
000
ton
range
for
recycling.
A
I
did
ask
palm
springs
disposal
about
the
high
numbers
that
we
were
reporting
back
in
2012
to
2015
and
they
did
not
know
what
that
was.
So
I
think
what
happened
was
that
number
being
reported
included
a
bunch
of
other
stuff?
That's
not
necessarily
mentioned
in
the
report,
so
we're
doing
a
little
bit
of
digging
to
find
out
what
where
those
numbers
may
have
come
from.
A
But
I
can
tell
you
that
I
did
look
at
the
palm
springs
disposal
numbers,
which
are
the
numbers
that
I
used
for
2016
to
2019
and
they
were
consistent
with
this
2016
to
2019
number
number,
so
they
they.
We
are
pretty
steady,
assuming
that
the
palm
street
disposal
numbers
are
correct,
we're
pretty
steady
on
our
annual
tons
of
curbside
recycling
collection
and
so
again
I'll
I'll
kind
of
do
a
little
more
digging
on
this.
A
The
high
numbers
that
we
are
reported
here
in
the
past
on
the
green
waste
front.
I
think
this
is
another
one
that
has
increased
a
little
bit
over
the
years
because
of
the
increase
in
the
number
of
folks
that
are
accessing
green
waste
collection
services
at
the
residential
level.
So
this
is
a
number
that
we'll
probably
see
increase
a
lot
over
the
next
year
or
two
given
1383
and
the
requirement
for
us
to
collect
organics
from
residential
folks.
So
so
we'll
see
that
number
go
up
quite
a
bit.
A
So
so
that's
what
I
have
on
that
front
and
again
there
was
nothing
super
surprising
about
the
numbers
that
we
submitted
this
year.
We
are
trying
to
do
better
in
terms
of
collecting
that
data
more
regularly
and
to
get
to
get
a
sense
of
how
we're
progressing
so
so
anyway.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
what
some
of
the
numbers
were
that
were
reported
and
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
that,
and
then
I
think
that
was
really
about
it.
A
On
the
waste
front,
the
other
stuff
is
included
in
the
the
summary
report
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have
about
that.
So
all
right!
Okay,
let
me
come
back.
E
G
I
About
possibly
turning
this
into
a
more
virtual
event,
because
we
really
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
look
like
next
june,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
do
something.
So
you
know
I'd
love
to
to
speak
with
you,
both
and
patrick.
If
you
have
any
input,
of
course,
what
I
do
have
to
report
from
the
environmental
education
collaborative
which
I'm
still
on
the
board
for
we,
you
know,
we've
been
now
sponsoring
the
sole
sponsor
for
the
environmental
art
contest.
I
It
went
really
well
virtual
this
last
year,
so
I
proposed
at
the
last
board
meeting
to
to
add
an
essay
contest,
because
that's
something
I've
been
wanting
to
do
just
to
give.
You
know
if
it's
not
a
virtual,
a
visual
artist,
an
opportunity
to
perhaps
express
with
the
literary
arts
so
we're
looking
at
that
both
essay
and
poetry
and
then
perhaps
also
adding
some
kind
of
you
know.
Somebody
said
they
called
it
a
soapbox,
but
something
that
could
be
more
performance,
art
oriented.
I
So
if
we
had
some
different
options
of
how
specifically
students
but
of
course,
adults
if
they
want
to
participate,
they're
welcome
so
that
we
could
increase
the
opportunities
while
everyone,
you
know,
may
still
be
quarantining.
So
those
are
kind
of
interesting
ideas.
You
know
I
don't
know
because
we
probably
will
be
looking
for
other
sponsorships.
If
the
commission
would
like
to
maybe
be
a
sponsor
again,
so
we
sponsored
you
know
we're
co-sponsor
for
the
contest
for
a
few
years.
I
So
that's
something
I
just
wanted
to
to
propose
and
see
if
there's
any
feelings
on
that,
but
it
just
seems
that
this
next
year
is
so
uncertain
that
whatever
we
can
do
to
support
students
while
they're
at
home,
you
know
to
increase
the
opportunity
for
critical
thinking
and
we're
also
thinking
about
a
theme
you
know
in
the
past.
It's
you
know.
For
the
last
15
years,
I've
been
rotating
those
five
elements
for
the
younger
kids.
I
It
seems
like
that's
probably
the
easiest
to
keep
that
it's
going
to
be
water
again,
which
it
just
seems
so
crazy
that
these
seem
to
rotate
so
quickly
through
five
year
cycles,
but
we're
thinking
about
adding
an
environmental
justice
element
for
the
older
kids,
and
I
think
that
could
be
really
interesting
at
this
time.
In
you
know
many
many
ways,
but
also
for
the
essay
contest
and
giving
kids
a
chance
to
really
express
how
they're
feeling
about
what's
going
on
in
the
world.
So
that's
my
report.
E
A
Okay,
so
we
did
have.
I
did
have
a
call
with
the
contractor
last
week
and
I
we
had
a
call
with
the
ad
hoc
committee
yesterday
to
provide
the
contractor
with
a
little
bit
of
feedback
on
some
of
the
recent
materials
so
just
to
update
you
on
the
status
of
where
they
are.
A
They
did
issue
some
invitations
to
some
individuals
to
participate.
In
a
community
advisory
committee,
we
tried
to
identify
groups
that
were
already
engaged
in
pedestrian
safety
efforts,
as
well
as
the
local
business
community,
the
tribe
and
some
other
organizations.
So
hopefully
we
got
a
little
bit
of
feedback,
at
least
from
a
couple
people
so
far
that
we're
interested.
A
So
we
hope
to
have
the
first
community
advisory
committee
meeting
in
november,
probably
november
18th
after
our
next
meeting,
the
they've
also
created
a
and
a
public
input
survey,
so
they've
got
a
tool
that
they
can
use
once.
The
word
goes
out
to
the
public
that
this
is
happening
to
collect
feedback
on
people's
concerns
about
pedestrian
safety
and
also
a
mapping
tool,
so
that
people
can
just
click
on
areas
and
identify
hot
spots.
A
The
first
community
advisory
committee
meeting
will
be
focused
on
two
things.
One
is
just
reviewing
kind
of
the
the
priorities
for
the
project
and
the
scope
and
and
just
their
role,
but
also
they
what
we
hope
to
have
for
them
to
look
at
right
off.
The
bat
is
a
list
of
projects
that
and
concerns
that
people
have
already
identified
and
how
those
kind
of
stack
up
based
on
the
priorities
for
the
the
project,
so
so
anyway,
so
we
don't
want
to
start
from
ground
zero.
A
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
in
addition
to
addressing
some
of
the
problem
areas
that
we
have,
we
want
to
also
make
sure
that
we
are
identifying
and
building
on
potential
pedestrian
opportunities
like
the
new
downtown
park,
the
renovation
of
the
town
and
country
and
the
new
cultural
center
for
the
tribe.
So
so
anyway.
So
that's
really
the
where
we
are
with
that.
The
consultant
is
really
leading
that
effort
and
we're
trying
to
provide
input
along
the
way,
and
but
that's
that's
where
we
are
at
the
moment.
C
C
Middle
middleton
yesterday,
just
part
of
her
campaign
thing
she's
doing
some
zoom
calls
and
she
I
told
her
that
we
had
some
interest
in
some
on
a
bike
path
on
south
palm
canyon.
I
met
with
her
just
as
myself,
not
as
a
sustainable
commission,
but
we
added
that
she
was.
She
was
very
interested
in
continuing,
but
so
I
was
curious,
patrick.
We
originally
had
an
infrastructure
bike
infrastructure
meeting
scheduled
for
march,
like
around
march
10th.
The
whole
thing
kind
of
got
kind
of
got
kibash
because
of
kovid.
A
Yeah,
in
fact,
we
should
do
that
because
the
other
thing
that's
in
the
works
is
there's
a
new
grant
under
development
on
sustainable
transportation.
That's
going
to
be
coming
out
here
very
soon,
and
so
we
want
to
be
primed
to
submit
something
for
that,
so
so
yeah.
I
was
thinking
about
that
when
you
mentioned
you
were
meeting
with
her.
I
was
thinking.
Oh.
C
A
A
F
Let's
see
we
we
well,
I
sent
out
a
memo
today.
To
get
sorry
can
am
I
being
hurt?
Yep,
yes,
okay
good,
so
I
sent
out
a
memo
today
to
patrick
and
roy
for
a
review
that
that
we
can
send
to
the
appropriate
government
agency
here
in
palm
springs.
And
basically
I
told
you
last
time
that
I've
gone
and
done
an
estimation
of
the
light
output
of
the
lamps
that
are
up
lighting.
F
The
palm
trees
up
on
taki's
canyon
and
the
value
I
was
getting
was
exceeding
the
the
amount
that
the
guidelines
for
the
city
designate
by
five
or
six
times
so
quite
a
bit
and
and
then
I
went
out
and
did
some
calibration
of
of
my
little
measuring
device,
which
is
basically
an
app
on
my
smartphone
to
three
other
up
lighting
lamps
in
my
in
in
the
close
vicinity
to
take
canyon
and
and
those
three
other
uplighting
lamps
were
in
the
range
of
about
four
thousand
lumens,
which
is
the
the
limit
according
to
the
guidelines.
F
So
I
think
we
have
enough
calibration
that
we
can
send
this
to
city
hall
and
ask
them
to
replace
those
lamps
and
and
reduce
them.
This
is
all
kind
of
small
potatoes.
It's
it's
also
providing
a
basis
for
us
to
start
to
develop
an
ordinance
just
just
on
the
basis
of
my
looking
at
these
lights
and
these
lamps
and
and
they're
up
lighting
in
these
different
places.
F
Obviously,
the
the
ones
that
the
city
has
installed
up
and
talkies
canyon
are
way
too
bright,
but
I
think
that
that
a
4
000
lumens
limit
is
also
too
bright
and
and
we
could
get
away
with
something
you
know
three
quarters
of
that
or
even
less
and
and
you
would
still
get
a
nice
view
of
your
palm
trees,
if
you
absolutely
have
to
and
and
then
maybe
we'll
we'll
continue
with
that
and
also
consider
a
curfew
on
them,
so
that
we
can
turn
them
out
completely
at
something
like
11
pm.
G
Yeah,
my
sherman,
can
I
actually
have
a
question
from
when
I
did.
My
landscape
lighting
is
that,
in
addition
to
lumens
the
landscape
lighting
designer
said,
the
kelvins
were
important,
so
everything,
I
think
was
it
20.
At
least
the
inside
was
at
2700
kelvins.
I
don't
know
whether
that
also
applies,
whether
there
we
would
set
a
standard
so
that
they're
not
like
super.
You
know
bright
and
kind
of
as
natural
colored,
as
as
they
can
assuming
they're
led
kind
of
things,
but
just
just
a
thought
based
on
what
I
did.
F
F
I
think
well,
since
the
way
I
wrote
it,
patrick,
you
were
co-signing
it
from
the
office
of
sustainability.
So
the
question
is,
you
know
yeah.
How
should
we
proceed
from
here
with
it.
F
Oh
okay,
so
I
should
rewrite
it
with
with
me
as
the
author
and
just
send
that
to
you.
A
Yes,
so
it
would
be
so
the
question
that
I'm
always
asked,
as
I
always
say,
is
what
did
the
commission
say
about
this,
and
so
it
would
be
helpful
if
I
could
say
that
the
commission
would
like
for
the
city
to
do
this.
Rob.
A
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
it
should
be
a
recommendation
from
the
commission
is-
is
my
my
feeling
about
it
because
I
think
it
gets
it
just
gets
more
weight.
That's
really
the
only
thing.
A
B
E
Right
discussion:
what
do
you
think?
Basically,
what
you
have
in
the
memo
is
that
you've
made
some
measurements
and
that
the
lighting
exceeds
puts
in
the
city,
ordinance
and
you're,
recommending
that
the
city
basically
meet
the
code
specifically
replace
some
of
the
light
bulbs.
E
B
Can
we
just
take
a
vote
and
have
a
motion
say
was
unanimously
approved
by
the
commission.
E
B
F
That
is
the
only
place
that
I
know
that
the
city
has
installed
lighting,
that
is
out
of
compliance
with
these
regulations.
Okay,
that
doesn't
mean
that
there
aren't
others
right
and
one
of
the
like
the
there's.
A
there's.
A
residential
property
here
on
my
street
is
one
of
the
places
where
I
took
a
measurement
of
another
light
and
they
were
also
out
of
compliance
not
by
much,
but
they
they
were
it's
measuring
at
4,
300
lumens.
So
again,
this
is.
A
F
C
F
C
C
B
B
A
So
I've
got
nothing
more
to
report
on
that.
I
think
we'll
maybe
try
to
convene
a
meeting
next
next
month.
We'll
see
what
happens
with
this
additional
input
that
the
planning
folks
get
on
the
general
plan.
G
Okay,
two
updates
from
dwa's
board
meeting
this
morning.
First,
I
updated
them
on
the
city
council
approval
on
the
eighth
of
the
concept,
design
for
the
demo
garden
and
the
turf
conversion
at
the
airport
and
thank
them
for
their
support,
of
course,
quite
happy
about
that.
G
The
board
approved
proceeding
with
an
mou
for
a
backup
powered
battery
to
me
battery
power
generators
at
two
of
their
facilities
on
which
would
be
funded
under
the
cpc's
s-chip
program,
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
I
think
last
month
ewa
has
now
adopted
a
new
reporting
system
for
water
use,
production
which
is
required
by
the
state
water
resources
control
board.
The
new
system
is
based
on
water
production,
including
leaks
instead
of
water
consumption.
G
Although
dwa
did
report
the
water
reduction
for
september
on
both
production
and
consumption-
and
it
was
roughly
eight
percent
for
last
month-
was
very
hot.
So
and
of
course
I
think
it's
the
beginning
of
overseeing.
So
that
may
be
why
it's
some
less
of
a
reduction
from
the
2013
target
than
previous
months
and
dwa
will
reevaluate
its
water
use
reduction
target,
which
is
currently
10
to
13
percent
from
the
2013
baseline
once
it
receives
water
use
objectives
in
accordance
with
long-term
state
conservation
legislation
from
vwa.
B
Yeah
so
I'm
meeting
with
the
representative
from
parks,
I
mean
not
parks
and
rec
from
human
rights
commission
this
friday
to
discuss
the
coordination
or
the
combining
of
our
boat
two
proposals,
so
we
can
get
some
more
smoking
resolution
going
forward
meet
this
friday.
G
Okay,
recent
meetings
of
both
the
dc
board
and
the
cac,
so
the
board
met
yesterday
afternoon
and
they
approved
a
contract
to
develop
a
bill
comparison
tool
for
the
website,
and
I
know
commissioner
flanagan
that's
something
you
would
specifically
mention.
So
it's
now
in
the
works.
The
board
approved
a
support
letter
to
the
cpuc
asking
for
more
transparency
on
the
exit
feed
that
cca
customers
pay
for
power
purchased
by
the
ius
before
they
became
cca
customers
that
will
be
on
the
council
consent
agenda.
G
For
this
thursday
council
will
be
asked
to
also
to
sign
on
the
letter
the
cac,
including
commissioners,
bakery
miller.
We
met
last
thursday
evening
we're
looking
into
programs
that
could
be
offered
to
dc
customers,
including
ev,
and
battery
storage
incentives,
energy
efficiency
programs
and
solar
rebates.
G
I
have
a
call
scheduled
for
this
thursday
morning
with
ben
durian
of
of
seabag
to
see
how
we
can
start
moving
those
forward
and
assigned
to
the
various
cac
members,
some
additional
research
requirements
and
then
finally,
dc
staff
and
consultants
are
continuing
their
negotiations
with
solar
and
wind
developers
to
secure
long-term
renewable
energy,
and
I
did
some
additional
research
for
dc
on
a
possible
solar
project.
So
those
are
the
core
items
for
dce
right
now:
okay,.
E
Okay,
all
right
so
now.
The
final
item
on
the
agenda
is
commissioner
comments
and
upcoming
agenda.
So
we'll
go
around
the
room
around
the
city
so
to
speak.
Let's
see
we'll
go
by
the
agenda
commissioner
or
rob
vice
chair
mccann.
C
I'm
a
little
curious
about
this,
my
parking
structure
project
and
I'm
interested
in
anybody
as
any
thoughts
about
weekend
parking
fees
for
the
multi-story
structure.
When
that,
when
that
parking
structure
is
so
overloaded
as
a
way
to
discourage
driving
and
encourage
other
forms
of
transportation,
I'm
not
sure
where
to
go
with
it.
But
if
anyone
has
any
interest,
maybe
contact
me
separately
or.
C
Well,
we
don't
know
that,
but
the
problem
is
that
that
lot
is
jam-packed
every
single
night.
So
if
nothing
else,
it's
a
way
to
generate
funding,
because
even
if
you
charge
three
dollars,
it's
mostly
tourists
that
are
using
it
and
I
would
think
that
maybe
some
of
the
locals
could
avoid
using
it.
But
I
don't
know
just
maybe
this
is
outside
of
sustainability.
C
C
Yeah,
it's
a
good
question.
I
don't
know
that
would
be
all
sorts
of
funding
for
the
buzz
bus,
though.
G
No
because
that
that
was
dropped
in
the
in
the
austerity
budget.
C
C
I'm
just
wondering
if
anybody
else
besides
me
is
interested
in
this
or,
if
not
I'll,
kind,
of,
put
I'll
put
a
hold
on
it
and
you're
welcome
to
contact
me
later.
If
you
like,
or
now
can.
G
I
suggest
maybe
that
it
would
fit
in
because
it
is,
it
is
the
subject
and,
as
patrick
mentioned,
was
discussed
in
the
by
council
in
the
general
plan
update.
So
maybe,
as
that
would
help
to
sort
of
provide
some
input
as
we
we
help.
The
planning,
commission
and
city
council
develop
the
sort
of
lower
you
know
lower
tier
goals.
G
B
Well,
I
can
bring
that
up,
I'm
replacing
commissioner
and
who
left
on
the
general
plan.
C
So
would
it
be
commissioner,
chair
clark?
Would
it
be
helpful
if
I
were
to
spend
you
know
15
minutes,
doing
a
little
update,
maybe
for
the
next
go
around
about
how
much
money
comes
in
and
how
many
people
use
it,
and
if
I
can
find
any
information
about
who
uses
it
and
things
like
that
just
so,
we
can
just
kind
of
get
an
overview
over
whether
this
is
something
we
might
have
an
interest
in.
E
I
think
that
would
be
helpful,
yes
and,
in
the
meantime,
can
talk
to
the
steering
committee
and
see
where
that
might
begin.
So
I
think
we
have.
B
C
C
Oh,
I
don't
know
about
that.
I
think
there's
a
large
number
of
people
that
stay
in
downtown
hotels
that
eat
out.
I
think-
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
that
a
lot
is
jam-packed
all
the
time
and
so
a
lot
of
people
drive
in
it
and
drive
out,
and
you
know,
because
there's
no
parking
available
in
it,
because
I
think
if
you
were
to
to
start
charging
fees
in
it
there'd
be
more
availability
of
parking
which
will
reduce
the
number
of
people
that
are
just
driving
around
for
hours.
C
Looking
for
spots
too,
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
ways
that
this
you
know
can
address
some
sustainability
issues.
So
I'd
still
like
to
look
into
it.
G
G
The
development
agreement
with
grit
actually
precludes
charging
for
parking
at
the
downtown
lot
across
from
the
museum,
so
you
might
want
to
check
on
that,
but
there
may
be
a
there.
There
may
be
some
a
contractual
prohibition.
C
All
right:
well,
thanks
david
I'll
check
into
it.
B
C
G
E
E
I
have
that
down
sandra.
G
H
And
work
downtown,
I'm
pedestrian,
I
bike
ride
and
if
I
have
to
go
some
somewhere
I'll,
I
will
take
the
bus
during
the
summer.
The
buses,
of
course
become
kind
of
housing
during
the
heat
for
homeless
people.
So
most
of
the
things
I
can
do
on
foot
or
on
my
bicycle
by
the
way
I
do
like
the
new
intersections
and
the
lights
are
really
good.
So
I'm
a
big
fan
of
all
that
work.
H
That
was
that
was
done,
but
this
last
month
in
particular
the
the
drug
use
that
is
going
on
so
blatantly
on
the
street.
Now
I'm
I'm
accustomed
to
it
and
usually
you'll
see
it
on
the
side
or
behind
the
building
parking
lot.
That
sort
of
thing,
but
I'm
talking
about
palm
canyon
as
well.
You
know
central
downtown
and
indian
canyon
right
near
the
casino,
and
you
know
all
of
that
area
is
being
developed.
This
is
bold
in
your
face.
You
can't
even
access
the
bus.
H
The
bus
stops
because
they're
housing-
and
you
know
my
impression-
is
these-
are
mathematics,
they're,
very
active,
they're,
very
dirty
and
they're.
Actually
I
mean
I,
I
didn't
have
my
camera
and
it
wasn't
really
appropriate
anyway,
of
shooting
drugs
up
right
there
on
indian
canyon,
at
nine
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
and
also
you
know,
a
few,
a
few
yards
down
actually
defecating
right
there
on
the
sidewalk.
H
You
know,
and
it
was
like
at
least
use
a
put
bag
or
something
you
know
like
you
would
do
for
a
dog.
I
was
shocked
and
I'm
an
urban
person,
so
I've
seen
it
all,
but
I
have
not
seen
it
and
it
was
you
know,
just
in
my
morning,
trip
of
going
to
the
post
office
and
down
to
grocery
outlet
and
coming
by
back
to
my
house,
I
couldn't
I
couldn't
avoid
it,
and
that
was
that
was
an
early
morning
in
downtown
and
it
was
it.
H
I
think
it's
great
that
they're
taking
advantage
of
the
streets-
and
you
know
I
know
a
lot
of
cities-
are
doing
that
even
preparing
for
cold
and
rainy
weather,
which
we're
not
going
to
have
to
do
here
and
go
to
that
expense.
So
I
think
that's
great
and
I
think
a
certain
amount
of
funkiness
is
very
appropriate
for
palm
springs.
H
We
don't
want
it
to
be
too
slick,
or
you
know
disney
vegas-like,
but
one
of
the
things
that
concerned
me-
and
I
know
with
the
spacing
with
the
outside
dining-
was
the
use
of
materials,
and
you
know
right
at
the
beginning
of
combat.
In
my
own
work,
I
had
to
do
a
lot
of
research
on
actual
material
surfaces
and
how
friendly
it
was
as
a
surface
for
the
virus,
the
least
friendly,
being
copper
and
plastic
being
the
most
friendly
word.
The
virus
can
live
on
it
for
72
hours.
H
So
what
I'm
seeing
with
most
of
the
restaurants
in
downtown
is
a
lot
of
use
of
plastic
at
a
eye
level
shoulder
or
eye
level.
So,
and
some
of
it
is
that
kind
of
artificial
box
hedge
that
you
use
in
a
display.
But
this
is
also
sitting
outside
in
hot
sun
for
hours,
day
after
day,
I'm
hoping
that
they
would
disinfect
it.
But
then
what
does
the
disinfectant
do
to
the
quality
of
the
plastic?
That
was
never
meant
to
be
cleaned,
on
a
regular
basis
like
that.
H
It's
just
display
stuff,
but
it's
plastic,
but
what
I'm
seeing
is
the
the
use
of
so
much
plastic
that
is
meant
to
be
protecting
people
from
virus.
So
it's
a
little
bit
too
late,
but
I
don't
know
if
there
is,
as
it
goes
on
or
they're
making,
maybe
more
permanent
type
of
building.
You
know
to
accommodate
the
restaurant
customers,
which
is
great,
but
maybe
some
sort
of
help
on
using
those
materials,
and
I
was
you
know
I
was
thinking
even
without
going
into
the
expense
of
pure
copper.
H
You
could
use
a
copper-coated
wire
mesh
that
would,
you
know,
still
have
airflow,
it
would
be
easy
to
clean
and
it
wouldn't
be
virus
friendly.
So
I
think
there
are
some
things
that
we
could
do
just
as
far
as
providing
information
to
the
restaurants
and
the
in
the
merchants
about
what
materials
are
probably
more
successful
in
doing
what
they're
trying
to
do
of
creating
safe
zones
for
people
to
sit
and
eat,
and
you
know
and
have
a
have
a
nice
time
out.
H
So
I
think
that
was
something
that
just
got
overlooked
in
the
in
the
rush
to
increase
business
again.
But
it
concerns
me
because
one
way
or
another
you've
got
plastics
breaking
down
in
sun
and
hopefully
they're
disinfecting
them.
But
plastic
is
is
the
worst
thing
that
they
could
be
using
as
a
as
a
barrier.
So
that
was
just
you
know.
My
street
beat
reporter
from
downtown.
H
So,
for
what
it's
worth,
it
might
be
something
that
we
might
be
able
to
help
them
with
and
not
it's
not
just
putting
up
partitions,
and
you
know
the
difference,
I'm
not
looking
for
uniformity,
like
I
said
I
think
all
of
that
is,
is
very
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
palm
springs,
but
the
use
of
the
materials,
particularly
the
plastic,
I
think,
is
questionable
and
also
not
maybe
not
healthy.
H
I
think
so
to
help
guide
those
merchants
that
are
doing
the
outside
dining
and
now,
if
you
have,
you
know,
classes
purchase
things
like
that
where
they're
doing
worship
outside
you
know,
while
we're
in
you
know
in
more
restricted
areas,
it
would
be
helpful
for
people
to
know
what
is
more
effective,
and
you
know
the
the
copper
coated
is
not
expensive
and
there's.
Also
from
you
know,
I
mean
we've
got
them
from
landfill.
In
the
past,
the
copper
plates
they're
copper
plated
that
they
use
for
printing
once
they're
used.
H
They
throw
them
away,
you
know,
and
they
develop
beautiful,
verdigris
and
stuff
like
that,
but
they're
they're
thin
they're,
like
very
lightweight
thin,
so
you
can
use
them
decoratively,
but
they're
covered
with
your
copper.
So
that
might
be
something
as
far
as
a
building
material,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
architecture
people
have
done
with
this,
but
with
the
use
of
the
plastics,
especially
at
that
you
know
at
that
head
and
shoulder
level,
I
think
is,
is
maybe
something
that
we
should
think
about.
E
B
B
Hi
no
comment.
E
Okay,
I'd
just
like
to
make
one
comment.
I
think
you
all
know
that
we
currently
have
two
vacancies
on
the
commission
on
john
goin's
position
and
t
centaurus
position.
E
The
city
council
has
decided
that,
along
with
our
commission
and
several
other
commissions
that
currently
have
vacancies,
they're
going
to
wait
to
fill
the
vacancies
until
december
when
they
also
will
be
addressing
terms
that
have
expired
and
reappointing
people
or
appointing
new
people
to
those
positions.
E
So
there
won't
be
any
additional
selections
or
appointments
to
the
commission's
until
until
december
and
patrick,
and
I
did
work
on
a
short
recruiting
document
for
the
commission,
which
talks
about
what
we
do
and
also
what
our
immediate
focuses
are
for
the
next
year
and
that
has
been
posted
on
facebook
and
next
door.