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B
Good
afternoon
and
welcome
everyone
to
this,
may
16
2016
meeting
of
the
sustainability
Commission
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
welcome
to
our
new
home
here
in
the
convention
center,
where
we
will
be
meeting
from
this
month,
May
and
also
in
the
months
of
June
and
July.
Our
meetings
will
continue
to
be
here
on
the
third
Tuesday
at
six
at
five
pm,
while
the
city,
council
chambers
and
the
large
conference
room
are
being
renovated.
So
welcome
to
everyone.
I
have
asked
commissioner
goings
if
he
would
lead
us
in
the
flag
salute.
C
C
B
The
agenda
was
emailed
to
you
last
week
and
posted
on
Thursday
afternoon
for
City
procedures,
I'd
like
to
request
that
we
make
one
change.
It
was
sort
of
an
error.
If
you
would
look
at
at
f5,
we
actually
concluded
the
work
of
the
review
of
the
franchise
agreement
with
Palm
Springs
disposal
service.
So
we
don't.
We
don't
need
that
agenda
item.
What
that
should
have
read
was
that
there
would
be
a
report
on
the
ad
hoc
committee
on
leaf
blowers.
I'll
move
that
microphone
back
a
little
bit.
B
B
Second
and
I'm
sorry
I
did
Oh.
Second,
okay,
Roy
made
the
motion
and
a
second
from
second
Oh
Commissioner,
Goines,
okay,
sorry
I'm,
I'm,
not
hearing
as
well
or
the
microphones
are
not
picking
up
as
well.
All
right,
oh
they're,
sharing!
That's!
What's
going
on
all
right,
so
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
all
in
favor
say
yes,
yes,
both
say
no
and
motion
carries
great
I.
Do
not
see
mr.
ready
or
mr.
fuller
here
for
a
city
manager
or
sisty
system
city
manager,
report
Stacey.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
report
on
their
behalf?
B
F
The
reason
is
that
the
agreement
requires
that
the
remediation
and
the
monitoring
happened
for
a
period
of
20
years,
and
so
I
need
to
make
sure
that
we
have
the
right
consultant
that
has
the
biologists,
the
the
agriculture
and
and
the
technical
expertise
required
for
this
remediation,
because
we're
going
to
be
on
the
hook
for
at
least
20
years
of
this
project.
We
the
grant,
is
for
a
little
over
$400,000.
So
there's
a
lot
of
money.
That's
associated
with
it.
F
So
when
construction
actually
begin,
I'll
explain
what
that
means.
Basically,
this
property
is
wedged
in
where
we
have
to
access
the
pinyon
Pines
community
from
route
74.
We
go
through
BLM
land.
We
go
through
the
mountains
Conservancy,
which
is
the
least
I,
have
to
worry,
because
they're
granting
us
this
project.
We
also
have
to
go
through
the
u.s.
Forest
Service,
so
there's
a
lot
of
lands
that
we
actually
don't
have
a
legal
access
through
or
an
easement.
So
we
term
this
prescriptive
rights
because
there
are
roadways
across
it.
F
There
there's
pretty
much
an
access
through
it.
However,
when
we
begin
construction,
there's
going
to
be
differences
of
opinions
from
these
property
owners
that
we
have
to
cross
so
as
much
as
we
have
this
funding
and
as
easy
as
the
project
may
seem
or
appear
to
be
letting
you
know
now
that
there
might
be
some
delays
in
trying
to
get
the
construction
to
happen.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
that
I'm
familiar
with
the
grant
funds
that
are
involved,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
secure
the
agreements
and
the
proper
consultants
to
help
us
manage
this
project,
but
I
also
kind
of
want
to
give
you
a
caveat
of
the
potential
challenges
that
I
might
have
to
go
through.
So,
and
so
you
might
be
aware
that
anytime,
we
cross
over
private
property
or
someone
else's
property.
They
usually
want
remediation
or
improvements
to
their
roadway,
which
might
drain
our
funding.
F
B
Sivan,
just
before
I
think
they're
going
to
be
quite
a
few
questions.
Maybe
if
we
could
back
up,
we've
had
I
think
three
or
four
new
commissioners
who
have
joined
since
Michelle,
told
us
about
this
remediation
cleanup
work
and
since
we
were
pursuing
the
grant,
so
could
you
back
up
and
just
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
site?
Sure.
C
B
F
I'm
glad
you're
new
here,
because
I'm
relatively
new
to
the
project
as
well.
So
so,
if
someone
has
it,
if
I'm
giving
the
facts
slightly
a
little
different
from
a
different
point
of
view,
please
correct
me
for
those
who
have
been
here.
We
have
this
property
between
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
all
the
way
to
highway
74.
My
understanding
was
that
there
was
a
property
owner
and
a
developer,
who
had
envisioned
a
highway
from
Palm
Springs,
all
the
way
to
route
74.
F
So
in
having
that
vision,
he
owned
property
throughout
this
corridor,
I
believe
it
was
mr.
done,
and
then
he
cleared
the
way
and
the
path
all
the
way
to
route
74
now
again
with
the
economy,
with
the
vision
and
people
not
buying
the
property
that
vision
kind
of
fell
through,
but
he
did
own
property
through
this
corridor
at
that
time
and
again
this
happened
20
to
30
years
ago
that
just
kind
of
giving
a
background
of
the
time
frame,
and
at
that
time
we
didn't
have
our
Planning
Commission
or
our
rules
and
regulations
or
ordinances.
F
So
things
were
more
free
to
occur
it
at
that
time,
not
having
the
highway
occur.
I
believe
mr.
Dunn
decided
to
open
an
orchard
back
there
or
have
an
orchard
where
he
was
growing,
some
pistachios
that
was
unique
to
the
area
and
the
climate,
and
so
he
actually
grew
some
pistachios
and
probably
some
other
trees
back
there.
F
But
that
wasn't
a
success
as
well
later
on
I
believe
that
there
he
may
have
allowed
that
area
to
be
a
kind
of
like
a
disposal
for
for
some
some
trash
or
some
people
who
again
when
I
went
back
to
the
site.
It
looks
like
I,
don't
know
whether
you're
familiar
with
the
Badlands
through
Beaumont,
but
it
looks
like
a
nice
area
to
hide
something
and
to
build
something
up
and
realize
it
was
never
that
it
wasn't
part
of
the
natural
surroundings.
F
So
when
we
went
back
there,
some
of
the
waste
that
was
discarded
there
was
basically
grounded
up
household
waste.
When
we
actually
walked
around
there
was
glass.
There
was
tired.
There
were
tires.
There
were
toys,
there
were
bullets,
there,
there's
pretty
much
a
lot
of
things
that
were
there.
Imagine
if
you
were
a
landscaper
and
you
wanted
to
grind
up
the
tree
branches
and
then
just
kind
of
get
rid
of
it.
Well,
they
kind
of
did
the
same
thing
to
this
trash
and
household
waste.
F
What's
nice
is
that
the
waste
was
not
considered
hazardous,
so
that's
a
good
thing,
but
it's
still
a
waste
that
we
need
to
handle
and
manage.
So
there
have
been
layers
and
layers
piled
down
in
there
to
make
it
look
like
a
natural
area,
but
when
you
really
look
really
close,
it
is
something
that
you
don't
want
to
be
there.
So
that's
kind
of
the
background
and
I
believe
that
this
area
wedged
in
this
canyon
leads
to
kind
of
washes
down
and
follows
a
little
River.
F
So
the
the
reason
why
the
Conservancy
and
the
water
quality,
which
is
the
basis
of
the
grant,
had
an
interest
in
this,
is
that
they
don't
want
the
rain
and
the
water
to
basically
flow
out
after
it
filters
through
this,
this
compost
or
this,
this
hazardous
waste
dumping
ground.
When
you
really
go
back
there
to
go
see
it,
you
wouldn't
think
that
there
was
anything
wrong
because
it
was
hidden
very
well.
F
You'd
have
to
take
a
very
closer
look
at
it,
because
everything
is
overgrown
and
as
a
hiker,
you
probably
just
pass
by
it,
not
realizing
that
anything
was
around,
but
obviously
we
take
a
closer
look
when
it
comes
to
water
quality
or
anything
that
can
harm
us
when
it
flows
downhill
and
towards
our
water
watersheds.
So
that's
kind
of
a
little
background
and
they've
been
trying
to
clean
this
up
for
the
last
twenty
to
thirty
years
and
I
believe
as
part
of
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
acquiring
this
property
for
$1.
F
We
needed
to
have
this
grant
to
be
able
to
mitigate
it,
so
we
took
on
the
property
for
$1,
but
under
the
condition
that
we
receive
a
grant
to
clean
this
up.
So
now
the
responsibilities
are
a
little
bit
on
my
shoulders
now.
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
the
background
and
that's
how
I
interpret
the
history
of
it
if
anybody
kind
of
understands
it
differently,
please
do
correct
me.
F
G
F
Correct
that
I'm
apologize
but
anytime
I
do
any
type
of
work.
I,
consider
it
construction
when
it
deal
when
I
deal
with
contractors,
the
actual
work
is
actually
just
going
in
to
haul
out
the
materials
and
to
dispose
of
the
waste.
Any
improvements
that
might
be
involved
would
be
the
lands
that
we
cross.
F
F
We
already
hired
the
consultant
to
do
the
initial
studies
to
obtain
the
grants.
So
Terranova
was
the
consultant
that
performed
that
they
have
provided
me
with
a
proposal
to
carry
the
project
forward
to
begin
the
request
for
proposals
and
the
request
for
bid
process.
But
my
concern
in
them.
Providing
me
a
proposal
is
that
they
do
not
have
a
biologist
and
they
do
not
have
the
necessary
expertise
that
is
required
for
part
of
the
remediation
and
I'm
kind
of
questioning
that,
because
I
do
not
want
the
contractor
to
hire
their
own
watchman.
C
F
H
There
any
actual
private
property
or
was
it
all
essentially
other
governmental
agencies,
because
you
mentioned
BLM
and
you
know
various
sort
of
Department
of
Interior
and
the
Conservancy,
but
were
there
actually
private
property
owners
and
I
guess
the
question
that
I
raised
is
if
you're,
anticipating
questions
about
the
easement,
the
prescriptive
easement.
Can
this
be
done
sort
of
ahead
of
time
or
parallel
so
that
they
don't
kind
of
stop
you
we're.
F
Going
to
look
at
every
alternative
to
try
to
accelerate
the
project,
I
know
that
the
only
private
properties
do
the
pinyon
Pines.
They
don't
really
have
an
HOA,
it's
more
of
like
a
community
effort.
So
I
don't
know
where
the
property
lines
are
drawn
there,
but
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
one
specific
property
owner
that
we
would
have
an
issue
with.
B
I
To
follow
up
on
Commissioner
Wilson's
comments
about
I,
guess
the
consulting
piece
of
it.
So
when
this
goes
out
to
bid,
is
it's
going
to
be
an
open
bid
process?
Will
there
be
other?
You
know
other
consulting
firms
putting
in
bids
as
well,
because
it
seems
like
that's
how
you
would
get
you
would
get.
Everything
that
you
would
need
is
to
have
it
open
so
that
the
firm's
that
have
all
those
pieces
would
be
allowed
to
bid
on
it
right.
F
That's
the
challenge
that
I
have
right
now,
which
is
why
it's
not
that
easy
to
include
that
consultant
contract
with
this
agreement.
There
are
two
separate
processes.
The
typical
bid
that
you
would
normally
consider
would
be
the
lowest
bid
by
a
contractor
to
perform
the
work.
But
what
we
require
is
the
actual
technical
expertise
that,
with
the
biologist,
the
archeologist
and
the
water
quality
monitoring,
typically
those
are
specialized.
We
don't
go
by
the
lowest
bidder
and
I'm,
hoping
and
again
the
city
does
not
have
a.
C
Have
one
comment
in
the
in
that
20
year
requirement?
The
CV
MC
is
a
sister
agency
to
the
agency
that
I
work
for
as
my
day
job,
and
we
also
require
20
years
under
all
of
our
prop
1
grants
in
the
monitoring
requirements
on
that
to
meet
that
20-year.
Threshold
is
usually
an
annual
monitoring
for
the
first
5
years
and
then
just
monitoring
every
5
years
after
that,
so
I'm
you're,
probably
aware
of
that.
But
if
not,
you
might
want
to
clarify
that
with
CBM
see.
Yes,.
C
F
J
You
guys
have
all
seen
it.
We've
talked
about
it,
the
the
last
meeting
that
David
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
a
copy
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
dull
reading.
It's
basically
an
expenditure
report
today
and
we're
coming
up
at
the
end
of
our
fiscal
year.
June
30
is
the
end
of
our
fiscal
year,
so
we
can
go
line
by
line
or
I
can
answer
questions.
How
would
you
prefer.
B
Right
I
may
have
missed
reviewing
it
carefully.
Then
I'm,
sorry
I've
gotten
some
other
reports
that
you
provided
a
meeting
or
two
ago
very.
J
Similar
actually
most
of
our
dispatchable
for
138
our
sustainability
fund,
almost
all
of
this
or
kind
of
repeats
of
our
monthlies.
We
don't
really
have
a
whole
lot
of
variations.
Think
the
only
variations
we've
had
recently
are
the
2500
for
world
environmental
day.
We've
encumbered
those
funds,
Dianna
Shay's
working
on
that
and
the
350
library.
J
Dues
and
subscriptions,
which
is
our
South
Coast
AQMD.
We
have
contractual
services,
Chris
foster
for
our
bike,
rack,
obviously
succeeding
sustainability,
that's
Michelle,
my
Seon,
our
contract
company
new
commander,
soon
signs
by
tomorrow.
That's
the
goals,
poster
and
badges
and
your
Commissioner
signs.
Okay,.
B
H
J
J
It's
a
citywide
energy
efficiency
program
that
went
through
all
of
the
light
fixtures
in
every
city
facility
and
the
street
lights
and
the
exterior
lights
were
all
converted
LED.
We
also
changed
all
the
irrigation
and
all
the
parks
and
we
computerized
an
automated
irrigation
system
that
actually,
instead
of
having
little
timers
or
manuals,
it's
actually
computerized
and
it
links
up
to
a
satellite.
So
it
reduces
our
watering
based
on
humidity
temperature
wind,
it's
smarter
than
most
of
us.
J
J
Basically,
it
was
too
gas
fire.
It
was
well
outdated
and
we
were
spending
a
lot
of
money
to
maintain
that
to
maintain
our
city
facilities.
So
one
of
the
options
with
Chevron,
aside
from
the
energy
efficiency
that
we
were
going
to
get
citywide
water
conservation,
air
pollution
was
the
big
one
and
our
GHG-
that's
how
we
accomplish
all
those
goals.
Part
of
the
cogent
was
to
rebuild
the
cogeneration
plant
to
actually
come
up
with.
J
The
municipal
plant
actually
takes
the
heat
generated
from
our
absorption
chillers
and
a
heat
jacket
and
then
regenerates
that
into
electricity,
which
provides
electricity
for
the
airport,
so
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
that.
We
don't
have
to
pull
off
the
grid,
so
the
whole
project
was
actually
energy
efficiency
and
conservation.
Okay,.
H
J
Newcomb,
the
one
I
just
mentioned-
that's
our
third-party
auditor
very
similar
what
he
was
talking
about
having
the
wolf
or
you
know,
the
Fox
guard,
the
henhouse
kind
of
thing,
even
though
chevron
and
up
there
are
our
consultants
and
our
partners.
It
is
our
fiscal
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
third
party
auditor,
okay,.
H
J
I
guessing
yeah
this
until
we
actually
get
fully
commissioned,
and
then
we
start
to
realize
because
we
have
a
bond
we
have
to
pay.
So
we
also
have
to
make
sure
that
until
that
full
bond
is
paid
back,
that
this
audit
matches
the
numbers
and
the
energy
savings
conservation
realization.
We
expected
to
see
okay.
H
But
but
I
guess,
my
ultimate
question
is:
why
is
that
cost
taken
out
of
the
sustainability
Commission
budget,
as
since
the
saving
seems
to
flow
into
the
general
fund,
because
we're
not
losing
as
much
electricity
and
water?
Why
is
that
cost
allocated
other
than
historical
reasons?
We
had
the
money,
it.
C
B
B
F
B
So
yes,
that's
likely
okay
and
then
then,
there's
perhaps
then
with
other
revenue
that
we
have
about
three
hundred
and
seventy
four
thousand
is
a
number
that
was
on
a
preliminary
revenue
for
the
sustainability
fund
and
so
with
without
a
full-time
staff
person.
Mr.
Rainey
was
explaining
that
there
would
be
some
more
substantial
funds
available
for
programming.
B
Correct
was
David's
explanation,
I'm,
not
sure
I'm,
seeing
just
so
about
what
would
we
have
in
the
sustainability
fund
in
the
next
fiscal
year?
I
know
nothing
settled.
I
know:
budgets
are
not
settled
for
next
year.
That's
fine,
but
about
what
would
we
have
for
programming
funds?
Not
not
personnel
funds
or
or
other
charges
that
that
we
wouldn't
have
any
control
over.
Is
that
a
number
you
could
shout
out
at
this
point
or
not
so
much
I.
J
B
Almost
I
mean
over
between
700
and
800
thousand
dollars,
fun
to
see
a
day
or
so
a
lot
lots
of
funds
available.
If
there
are
things
that
are
to
do
with
recycling,
so,
okay,
maybe
we'll
I,
mean
if
Marcus
finds
something
he
wants
to
offer.
That's
great,
but
maybe
we'll
riajuu
is
after
we
have
looked
at
it
more
carefully
and
I
apologize
for
not
listening
to
prefetch
importance.
B
K
J
If
I
mean
there's
several
pages
but
honestly,
mostly
when
it
comes
down
to
or
month-over-month
expenses,
they
tend
to
be
pretty
consistent
and
roll
over
the
the
only
other
big
expenditure
that
I
think
we're
looking
at
is
obviously
we've
confirmed.
We
have
enough
in
our
printing
for
our
bike
maps
and
we
have
enough
for
printing
advertising
for
that
and
we're
looking
at
bicycle
racks,
and
we
have
enough
for
additional
installations
is
West
and
then
I
think
we
were
going
to
buy
some
giveaways.
Some.
B
B
B
B
The
budget
I
just
want
to
be
sure:
okay,
commission
liaison
reports
of
lisa
milton
and
me
that
she
could
not
be
here
tonight,
which
is
just
fine.
Mr.
Friedman
will
make
the
report
on
that
item
at
at
eff
to
where
it
is
listed.
I
am
looking
for
the
public
and
unless
our
sound
technicians,
what
a
video
folks
want
to
come
in
I,
don't
think.
There's
any
public
comment
tonight,
and
so
we
are
at
the
meeting
minutes
of
last
meeting.
April
18th
I,
assume,
there's
always
a
few
edits.
B
Maybe
there
weren't
this
time.
All
right
is
there
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
minutes
as
they
were
emailed
to
you,
the
Mets
of
April,
18
2017,
so
moved
so
moved
by
Vice,
Chair
Wilson,
second,
second,
by
Commissioner,
gothy
and
all
in
favor,
say
yes
opposed,
say
no
and
abstentions.
If
you
were
absent
great
okay,
it
would
be
an
extension
all
right,
so
going
in
minutes
are
approved
all
right.
Mr.
Calhoun
come
stand
at
the
microphone.
That's
one
way
to
keep
people
from
talking
too
long
as
you
make
them
stand
up.
Noted.
L
B
L
I
believe
that
the
last
meeting
the
chairperson
asked
for
a
report
about
the
construction,
demolition,
debris
and
so
Daniel
was
kind
enough
to
put
together
an
Excel
spreadsheet.
We
don't
have
all
the
information
yet,
but
Daniel
says
that
when
we
do
get
it
he'll
send
it
out
to
everybody
and
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
explain
it
and
go
through
it
with
you
at
our
next
meeting,
but
I
think
what
you
will
see
and
the
report
is
that
it
flows
kind
of
like
seasonality.
L
The
second
item
is
that
we
received
a
letter
from
the
state
saying
that
we
are
in
full
compliance
with
a
B
939
and
for
some
of
the
new
members
that
might
not
be
aware
of
what
a
B
939
is
it's
the
overarching
governing
legislation
that
guys
what
what
happens
in
when
we
recycle
construction
demolition,
all
phases
of
recycling,
commercial
organics.
Any
anything
that
you
can
imagine
that
can
be
recycled
is
covered
by
a
benign
39
and
every
year,
and
it
will
be
upcoming
in
June.
L
The
city
submits
an
annual
report
and
we
tell
them
what
we've
done.
What
programs?
We
have
the
educational
efforts
that
we've
made
things
like
that
and
then
they
review
it
in
the
past.
It
went
on
a
percentage
basis
and
initially
it
started
out.
It
was
passed
in
1990
and
required
by
1996
that
everybody
be
at
twenty-five
percent
by
2000.
It
was
supposed
to
be
at
50
percent,
and
now
it's
been
extended
by
the
year
2020
75
percent
throughout
the
state.
L
So
what
the
letter
says
that
our
programs
meet
the
specifications
and
our
numbers
meet
the
specifications.
Some
cities
aren't
as
fortunate
as
we
are
and
they
will
be
reviewed.
More
often
will
view
on.
What's
called
a
coordinate
quadrennial
every
four
years
will
be,
our
programs
will
be
reviewed
much
more
closely
than
they
would
be,
and
that
way
it
allowed
the
state
more
time
to
dedicate
their
resources
to
cities
that
need
more
help
than
than
some
other
cities
do.
So
it
was
nice
that
we
got
that.
The
next
thing
is
our
shred
event.
L
L
It
was
right
after
tax
season
the
weekend
following
the
tax
season
and
three
we
held
it
in
conjunction
with
the
Palm
Springs
spring
cleanup,
so
the
turnout
was
just
absolutely
fabulous.
We
filled
over
three
quarters,
full
all
three
trucks
and
it
never
slowed
down
from
actually
7:45
until
noon,
so
it
was
really
busy.
We
applied
for
a
beverage
container
grant
at
eleven
thousand
nine
hundred
twenty-five
dollars.
What
we'll
be
able
to
do
with
that?
As
we
can
bike
beverage
recycling
containers,
we
can
put
them
in
any
city
facility.
L
G
Onto
one
thing
that
you
mentioned
mr.
calhoune-
and
that
was
a
tree
trimming
yes
and
it
seems
to
have
come
up
at
the
Commission
before
but
I.
Don't
remember
if
there's
been
any
action
or
resolution,
but
a
lot
of
the
palm
tree
trimming
seems
to
occur
during
bird
nesting
season,
and
is
there
any
sort
of
outreach?
That's
done
on
that.
That
may
be
something
that
we
might
want
to
take
on
as
an
educational.
Well,
as.
L
B
L
C
J
Asked
it
I've
asked
Gary
to
stay
with
the
cleanup
schedules,
those
weekends,
because
I
was
highly
successful
for
us.
One
of
the
other
issues
that
we've
been
I
asked
Gary
to
research,
as
well
as
what
other
cities
are
doing
related
to
e
waste.
We
have
a
very
large
e-waste
bin
that
was
put
in
the
city
yard
that
has
not
been
as
successful
as
we
had
hoped.
It's
invited
activity,
that's
not
desirable
for
the
public
facility.
J
Similarly,
when
the
AR
C
actually
comes
to
collect
most
often,
the
items
that
had
been
left
in
there
have
been
scavenged
already,
so
we're
really
trying
to
look
at
what
would
be
a
better
option
right
now.
Obviously,
the
e-waste
shredding
event
had
has
that
opportunity
to
capture
some
of
that
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
would
look
at
would
be
going
back
to
four
days
a
week
or
I'm
sorry,
four
times
a
year
to
actually
make
sure
that
we're
accommodating
what
those
citizens
would
need.
J
F
B
B
B
Available
yeah,
okay,
okay
I
can
do
that.
We
can.
We
can
be
flexible,
I
think
so.
We'll
come
back
to
item
d1,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
item
d2
in
sort
of
our
continuing
quest
over
this
year
to
figure
out
how
is
the
best
way
to
to
get
our
work,
values
of
commission
and
being
Brown
Act
compliant
with
all
of
our
standing
committees
as
I
sort
of
sense.
The
discussion
at
the
meetings
at
this
point.
At
this
moment
we
only
have
two
standing
committees.
B
We
have
a
standing
committee
on
green
building
and
a
standing
committee
on
solar
mandate
that
standing
committee
on
solar
mandate
will
probably
sunset
in
the
next
month
or
two
as
that
work
is
done
and
so
we'll
have
our
green
building.
In
the
conversation
at
the
last
sustainability,
Commission
meeting
led
me
to
believe
that
that
there's.
H
B
We
already
do
have
an
ad
hoc
committee,
but
we
keep
adding
just
little
pieces
to
it.
So
if,
if
there
is
not
an
objection
from
commissioners,
I'd
like
to
to
propose
that
we
transition
our
ad
hoc
committee
on
waste
reduction
to
be
a
standing
committee
and
that
we
transition
the
ad-hoc
committee
on
on
active
transportation
and
pedestrian
planning
that
we
actually
just
appointed
at
the
last
meeting
that
we
transition
that
to
a
standing
committee
now,
what
this
would
mean
is
that
those
groups
would
have
to
set
an
agenda
in
advance.
B
C
B
G
M
J
Ending
and
I
think
you
know
having
we're
replacing
one
and
just
adding
one.
It's
kind
of
how
I
see
that
then
I
do
believe
that
we
have
the
ability
to
accommodate
that.
The
bigger
concern
for
me
obviously
is
meeting
locations
for
the
next
couple
months
would
be
a
little
more
challenging
as
long
as
it's
open
to
the
public
and
eighty-eight
compliant.
We
can
meet
just
about
anywhere.
Okay,.
B
And
I
think
these
are
not
big
groups,
so
if
it's
just
a
commissioner
or
three
they're,
probably
some
smaller
meeting
rooms
at
City
Hall
that
can
accommodate
and
I
guess
in
the
larger
picture
going
forward.
Mr.
radius
said
that
we
will
likely
have
a
slice
of
the
community
and
economic
development
directors
position.
So
as
that,
if
if
we
understand
that
to
be
the
case,
then
then
it's
not
going
to
be
a
weight
on
Stacy
so
much
it
will
be
a
weight
on
the
unknown
person.
B
It's
always
fun
to
assign
things
jobs
to
people
that
we
don't
know
who
they
are.
That's
that's
what
we
like
to
do,
so
it
just
seems
as
if
every
time
we
have
every
time
there's
a
new
idea.
We
have
to
create
a
new
ad
hoc
committee.
We
will
soon
have
a
page
of
ad
hoc
committees
and
it
so,
let's,
let's
give
it
a
shot
in
anticipation
that
mr.
Reddy
is
going
to
get
his
staff
hire
done
and
all
that
will
work
out.
B
E
Goines,
just
I
wasn't
at
the
last
meeting,
I
did
watch
the
video,
but
just
a
I
just
would
like
to
hear
Oh
more
from
you
about
why
these
particular
committees
is
it
just.
This
is
where
we
have
momentum
and
because
we
have
momentum,
we
should
continue
that
or
are
these
related
to
some
sort
of?
Sometimes
we
have
a
list
of
priorities
that
sits
in
the
in
the
corner,
so.
B
It
just
fit
to
your
little
from
my
sense.
It's
it's.
It's
not
a
part
of
a
grand
plan,
particularly
it's
just
that
we
have
a.
We
seem
to
collect
a
whole
list
of
waste
reduction
topics
that
that
need
addressing
and
so
to
have
one
place
where
all
those
could
be
housed
rather
than
a
few
separate
groups,
and
we
are
hoping
to
move
along
some
issues
in
pedestrian
planning
and
active
transportation
as
a
priority
going
forward.
So
so
that
is
intentional,
sounds
like
you're
saying
it's
a
little.
B
H
Friedman,
just
as
a
heads-up
tomorrow
evening,
council
will
be
discussing
the
recommendations
of
the
ethics
governmental
reform,
transparency
task
force.
I
was
co-chair
of
transparency
we
put
in,
and
this
is
sort
of
to
blame
me
for
all
of
this
stuff.
We
did
put
in
some
detailed
recommendations
on
ad
hoc
and
Standing
Committees
of
words.
H
H
I
would
like
to
support
the
move
to
do
exactly
what
you
proposed,
because
it's
consistent
with
where
I
think
council
is
going
and
also
I,
worked
very
closely
with
Daniel
to
do
the
the
agenda
for
the
green
building,
and
it's
really
just
a
question
of
sending
them
a
couple
of
bullet
points.
Then
they
drops
into
the
template.
So
it's
not
at
least
an
awful
lot
of
work
to
come
up
with
it
with
the
agenda.
Daniel
already
has
the
template,
so
I
want
to
just
send
those
bullet
points.
B
I
think
and
the
agenda
that
you
did
yet
so
that
you're
you,
you
were
notified
of
the
green
building
meeting
tomorrow
morning
at
9:00
a.m.
or
Thursday
morning,
I'm
sorry
Thursday
morning
at
9:00
a.m.
that
take
a
look
at
that.
That
is,
is
David
Santa,
a
good,
a
good
way
to
view
what
you
might
do
all
right,
so
I.
B
B
B
B
Right
and
those
groups
already
know
the
topics
they
need
to
address.
So
they'll
begin
to
agendize
that
okay,
so
do
we
need
to
vote.
Do
I
just
need
to
nope
I'm,
Chris,
okay,
so
we're
going
to
transition
those
ad
hoc
committees
to
standing
committees,
all
right,
we'll
read
it
Dan
you're
our
umpire
for
the
minutes,
we'll
we'll
read
it
that
way
when
we
reach
your
minutes
all
right.
C
K
K
It's
it's
divided
about
half
and
half
between
the
plug-in
hybrid
electric
vehicles
and
the
battery
electric
vehicles
or
valves
annual
automobile
sales
in
this
state
are
around
two
million.
That
seems
to
be
a
fairly
steady
level
over
2015
and
2016.
A
gain
of
that
amount
in
2016,
an
approximate
number
of
zero
emission
vehicle
sales
was,
eighty-five
thousand
are
about
four
percent
of
it.
It
sounds
small,
but
one
of
the
interesting
aspects
of
that
is
that
it's
about
a
seventy
percent
growth
over
2015.
So
there
was
a
bit
of
an
explosion
in
sales
last
year.
K
And
in
2013
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
installed
34
electric
charging
stations
in
the
downtown
area.
A
couple
of
note:
there
are
six
out
of
the
airports
there
in
the
barista
one
northing,
you
canyon
parking
garage.
There
are
four
of
them.
Two
on
the
first
level,
two
on
the
second
level,
there's
four
over
the
convention,
center
or
city
hall,
has
two
and
then
there's
various
numbers
distributed
across
other
locations.
K
So
to
try
to
get
some
preliminary
data
on
usage,
I
got
in
my
car
and
developed
a
little
bit
of
a
route.
Over
the
last
month,
I
went
to
the
public
parking
lot,
so
I
chose
nine
of
the
approximately
19
or
so
facilities
that
were
closest
to
downtown
and
then
I
just
simply
went
there
and
did
a
count
of
the
number
of
stations
that
were
in
use
at
that
time
and
I
did
it.
I
did
six
different
samples
and
you'll
notice
the
times.
K
If
you
could
see
them
there,
there
there's
scattered
and
I
kind
of
did
that
deliberately,
just
as
I
was
trying
to
get
an
overall
view
here,
rather
than
zero
in
on
a
particular
time,
with
their
particular
usage
pattern,
so
I,
sometimes
one
in
the
morning,
sometimes
at
noon
early
afternoon
and
then
late
afternoon
and
the
two
that
you
see
there
in
red
are
the
only
two
times
I
went
where
there
was
something
actually
going
on
at
those
facilities.
So
this
is.
This
is
a
very
baseline,
a
snapshot
of
usage.
K
Today,
the
the
one
of
them
was
the
Camelot
theater.
Of
course,
during
the
the
Saturday
morning,
activity
there
with
the
farmers
market
and
then
the
other
one,
the
public
parking
lot
was
just
later
on
on
a
Saturday
night,
where
the
parking
lot
was
very
full.
So
so
here's
here's
the
results.
And
again
this
is
not
scientific.
This
is
just
me
going
around
doing
it.
K
If
we
wanted
to
get
a
better
and
more
accurate
picture,
we
want
to
collect
a
fair
bit
more
data
on
this,
but
but
you'll
see
the
results
the
airport
had
about
a
57
percent
usage
rate.
Overall,
these
observations,
the
downtown
parking
lot
came
in
second
at
about
46.
We
went
down
from
there
you'll
notice
the
the
library
at
zero.
K
So
there
is
one
charging
station
of
the
library
and
it
doesn't
appear
that
people
go
to
the
library
with
electric
cars
at
least
not
to
charville
there,
and
the
final
an
average
is
see
below
was
30
percent.
Is
that
an
under
estimate,
possibly
because
I'm,
including
the
library
in
it?
If
you
take
the
library
of
it's
about
35
percent,.
K
So
that's
a
snapshot
of
today's
usage
again
have
a
limited
sample
and
probably
would
need
work
data
collection
to
have
more
confidence
in
it.
But
what
we're
facing
in
the
future
is
an
executive
order
that
government
of
brown
issued
in
2012,
where
2000
by
2020
California's
zero
emission
vehicle
infrastructure,
is
supposed
to
be
able
to
support
a
million
vehicles
on
the
road.
That's
four
times
the
amount
today
and
by
2025
another
500,000
electric
vehicles
on
the
road,
which
would
be
six
times
the
amount
that
are
there
today.
K
K
So
this
is
the
simple
extract,
length
or
extrapolation
ignores
a
lot
of
important
issues.
I
think
what
does
it
mean
for
the
2025
guidance,
for
example,
that
they're
supposed
to
be
easily
accessible?
Does
that
mean
that
anybody
who
goes
to
an
area
that
they
know
their
stations
should
have
one
open
and
available,
in
which
case
these
extrapolations
are
probably
low?
K
What
about
peak
demand
times
that
I
don't
have
enough
samples,
yet
to
really
give
you
a
clear
picture?
Is
that
what
we
want
to
target
for
the
city's
availability,
for
example
the
Convention
Center,
if
you're
going
there
and
the
parking
lot
is
full
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
here?
What
is
the
demand
on
those
for
charging
stations
out
there
at
the
moment?
I
don't
know,
I
haven't
done
the
sample,
but
if
that's
what
we're
trying
to
target,
then
my
extrapolations
about
the
number
that
we're
going
to
be
in
the
future
are
low.
K
K
There's
a
new
city
parking
facility
going
in
what
kind
of
guidance
should
we
be
giving
them
for
the
number
of
stations
that
they
should
have
in
there?
That's
that's
a
TVD
for
me
at
this
point:
I'm
not
quite
sure
hydrogen
fueling
stations
they're
starting
to
come
the
number
of
cars.
Hydrogen
powered
vehicles
is
very
low
right
now,
but
again
it
is
expected
to
grow
over
time.
There
are
none
that
I
can
find
that
are
currently
available
in
the
Coachella
Valley
at
all.
K
Would
we
like
to
get
out
in
front
on
that
one
and
install
some
even
before
that
there
or
that
might
be
there
and
then
Nate
I,
met
and
discussed
the
commercial
side
of
this?
There's
all
kinds
of
parking
lots
downtown,
starting
with
the
tribes
I
did
a
drive
through
there.
There
are
no
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
in
the
tribe
surface
parking
lot
right
now:
they're
of
course,
putting
in
a
multi-story
facility
at
a
motto
and
for
next
month.
K
I'm
going
to
try
to
do
some
outreach
to
them
and
find
out
if
they
have
any
plans
to
put
any
in
and
Nate
and
I
discussed
well,
would
it
be
a
good
use
of
our
resources
to
maybe
think
about
doing
some
subsidizing
cost
sharing
of
implementing
some
of
these
in
commercial
establishments
downtown
and
go
to
them
and
say:
look
if
you
do
this
you'll
get
a
multiplier
effect.
You
get
more
people
to
come
to
your
establishment
and
more
people
to
use
the
downtown
area
and
everybody's
going
to
benefit.
E
So
I
am
NOT
an
electric
vehicle
expert,
but
I
wonder
if
there
isn't.
You
know
a
good
group
of
people
who
might
just
charge
and
recharge
only
at
home
and
may
never
use
a
commercial
facility
at
also.
You
know
to
need
20%
more.
There
might
be
a
lot
of
people
who
never
plug-in,
but
but
my
still
parking
it
but
I
think
that's
probably.
K
True
yeah,
there
will
be
a
lot
of
these
owners
who
just
charge
themselves
up
overnight.
Most
of
the
stations
right
now
and
I.
Think
the
home
versions
take
about
seven
hours,
do
it
overnight
and
then
you'd
be
fine
to
drive
downtown.
A
lot
of
it
depends
on
how
far
you're
coming
from
so
I
think
to
to
address
that
point.
What's
interesting,
now
is
to
get
these
current
usage
values.
C
K
Hoping
so,
and
that's
one
thing
that
Nate
and
I
discussed
is
I
need
to
go
to
the
actual
company
that
implemented
these
things
and
see.
If
they
have
direct
information
about
usage
patterns,
they
may
well
have
better
and
then,
if
they
do,
then
I
think
that
would
be
a
lot
better
than
me
driving
around
and
doing
it
informal
survey
and.
M
K
Question
and
of
course,
my
extrapolation
assumed
you
know
an
equal
amount
of
vehicles
statewide
and
that
that's
probably
not
true
either
so,
depending
on
on
the
level
of
interest
and
how
important
this
issue
is
that
that
might
be
another
thing
too.
If
we
wanted
to
spend
some
resources
to
to
hire
a
firm
and
get
some
more
data.
K
B
K
If
fleets
were
going
to
be
implement
in
the
future
that
are
autonomously
driven
and
they
went
through
all
electric
vehicles-
v's
yeah
man-
we
go
up,
there's
more
issues
to
that.
I
can
put
into
the
slide
there's
high-capacity
charging
stations
that
are
out
now
that
you
can
charge
up
to
your
car
in
20
minutes
instead
of
the
hours
it
is
taking.
Do
we
want
to
invest
in
those
we.
H
So
perhaps
that
group
would
have
some
at
least
anecdotal
data
and
in
terms
of
investing,
perhaps
a
partnership,
because
if
we
need
to
put
in
more
there's
a
cost-
and
that
would
be
perhaps
a
good
good
partner
to
to
work
with
in
to
defray
some
of
the
costs-
and
perhaps
you
know
have
them-
install
that
some
of
the
new
hotels
that
are
going
up.
So
that
was
just
a
suggestion
to
work
with
them
on
the
development
and
rollout.
B
I
think
it's
up
to
the
Commission
to
do
as
you
choose,
as
staff
always
tell
us.
We
speak
to
council
through
our
resolutions
or
our
emotions,
so
I'm
not
sure
that
I
I
don't
know
who
else
I'm
sure
there
are
potentially
city
staff,
people
that
are
looking
at
electric
vehicle
charging
stations.
They're,
probably
I,
don't
know
if
it's
in
the
planning
department
who
who
who
who
all
is
who
and
where?
Where
would
this
rest
in
the
staff
I.
B
J
Department
maintains
him
and
installs
them.
Michelle
actually
did
write
a
grant,
I
believe
for
six
additional,
which
we
just
found
out
about
we're
working
on
that
the
one
of
the
more
unique
challenges
we're
dealing
with
right
now
is,
of
course,
electrical
infrastructure
in
right
being,
especially
in
some
of
the
older
areas
downtown
in
particular.
Luckily,
as
commissioner
Freedman
just
mentioned,
several
of
the
new
hotels
have
already
buck
and
brought
in
their
own.
So
that's
helping
to
offset
the
demand
on
us.
J
J
Is
it's
a
bit
of
an
anomaly
right
now,
one
of
the
bigger
struggles
we
have
with
the
charging
stations
several
of
the
locations
that
you
were
showing
there
I
get
complaints
about,
because
people
park
there
and
they
go
to
work
or
they
go
somewhere
for
a
very
long
period
of
time.
So
they,
the
turnover,
isn't
great
right
now,
especially
if
you
are
on.
J
If
you
have
a
level
two
charger
and
it
does
take
two
hours,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
incentive
to
have
the
the
car
on
we'll
come
back
and
move
the
car,
especially
if
they're
Saturday
night
downtown
and
that's
a
little
bit
harder
so
trying
to
find
the
locations
with
the
appropriate
infrastructure
and
then
where's
our
need
where's,
our
future
need
where's.
Our
growing
need
is
solar,
an
option
there
there's
so
many
potential
questions,
we're
looking
at
what
and
what
funds
are
available.
So.
B
So
maybe
just
two
I
mean
this
is
this
is
fascinating
data
just
even
though
it's
somewhat
anecdotal,
it's
great,
so
so
lots
of
issues
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
can
be
privately
owned.
They
can
be
set
up
by
the
business,
they
can
be
grant
funded
for
installation,
but
then
there's
always
almost
always
a
sunset
on
that
funding.
They
can
be
public
I
see
some
governmental
entity
can
install
them.
There
could
be
some
shared
scenarios.
B
B
So,
given
those
factors
and
all
the
ones
we've
talked
about,
and
also
the
pace
of
process
on
these
issues,
it
just
seems
to
me
that
we
ought
to
say
something
now:
there's
a
there's,
a
there's,
a
draught
of
emotion
on
the
agenda
just
to
just
to
move
things
forward.
That
simply
says
that
we
endorse
that
the
downtown
redevelopment
area
include
electric
vehicle
charging
stations,
which
is
a
pretty
non-threatening
kind
of
motion,
but
at
least
it
gets
it
out
there
in
terms
of
one
step
along
the
process
to
say
that
we're
paying
attention
to
it.
B
A
It
it
depends
on
the
station,
but
basically
it's
around
for
a
single
station
right
around
$5,000
for
one
that
actually
gets
revenue
and
for
one
that
doesn't
take
revenue
installed,
is
around
$1,500
the
ones
that
take
revenue.
They
have
other
benefits
for
the
business
or
the
location,
whereas
you
know
it's
connected
to
apps.
A
You
did
ask
a
question
about
how
many
people
charge
them
at
home.
The
problem
with
the
electric
vehicles
is
that
they
do
have
limited
capacity.
So
even
if
you're
driving
a
tests,
love
with
I
think
200
miles
250
miles
when
you're
coming
from
Orange
County,
you
now
have
limited
capacity
and
so
there's
a
they
call
it
well
actually
I
forgot
what
they
call
it,
but
it's
an
anxiety
of
not
being
able
to
go
to
the
gas
station.
So
basically
you
charge
your
electric
vehicle.
A
Any
chance
you
get
and
going
on
to
the
demographic
of
electric
vehicles.
I
think
it's
very
clear
when
you
look
at
250,000
electric
vehicles
in
California,
and
you
could
literally
see
an
electric
vehicle
within
two
minutes
of
watching
the
traffic
here
in
Palm
Springs
that
we
have
a
lot
more
than
the
than
the
regular
demographic
in
the
the
demographic
of
Palm
Springs
is.
B
B
B
There
are
ways
to
monitor
the
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
that
allow
you,
as
for
the
pay
stations,
a
certain
rate
for
a
couple
of
hours,
while
you're
doing
your
work
or
engaging
with
a
vendor
or
a
commercial
establishment.
You
have
a
two
hour
rate,
then
it
bumps
up
for
the
third
hour
and
by
the
fourth
hour
it
really
goes
up
in
the
fifth
hour
really
goes
up.
B
So
there's
there's
your
incentivized
to
move
your
car
every
two
or
three
hours,
and
there
are
there
companies
and
services
that
could
help
us
help
us
or
help
commercial
entities
manage
that,
and
that
then
frees
up
for
the
next
customer
to
the
charging
station.
So
I
guess
what
I
was
hoping
is
that
perhaps
we
could
just
simply
move
it
along.
We
know
that
we
can't
do
you
know.
B
We
know
it
can't
happen
tomorrow,
particularly,
but
if
we
signal
that,
along
with
downtown
infrastructure
improvements
that
we
also
in
downtown
redevelopment
efforts
that
we
also
wanted
to
see
that
charging
stations
are
increased,
at
least
in
the
downtown
area,
we
could
make
that
statement
and
we
might
make
others
going
forward,
but
I.
So.
B
I
Commissioner
Weston,
thank
you
so
with
this
motion,
would
it
be
appropriate
at
this
time
to,
in
addition
to
you,
know
asking
that
there
be
some
of
these
stations
put
in
that
there
there
being
some
sort
of
feasibility,
study
or
I
mean
just
to
just
report
back
from
staff
about
how
how
much
it's
going
to
cost
and
because
this,
this
downtown
development
is
happening
right
now,
it's
going
to
done
in
a
year.
So
if
we
want
to
get
stations
in
there,
we
need
to
move
quickly
on
it.
A
Agreed,
however,
you
know
I
think
putting
it
on
the
developer
to
do.
It
means
that
the
cost
wouldn't
be
to
us
that
the
you
know
we'd
be
placing
it
on
the
developer
to
install
the
station's
right
engine.
A
A
That,
as
far
as
the
redevelopment
area-
and
you
know,
the
infrastructure
I
think
looking
into
this
more,
we
might
find
companies
that
actually
want
to
put
them
in
as
a
revenue
source.
So
again
the
cost
isn't
to
the
city.
So
I
think
that
the
motion
is
just
sort
of
to
stoke
the
fires
of
people.
Thinking
about
this
and
considering
it
as
they
go
forward,
I
think
that's
more
of
what
the
chair
is
asking
well.
B
And
I
think
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
not
create
a
motion
that
has
a
financial
impact
to
us
at
the
moment,
but
it
just
gets
the
that
gets
the
topic
raised
and
not
that
the
emotion
does
the
motion.
Does
they
establish
the
private
public
or
brand
so
we're
just
simply
saying
to
Council.
We
want
this
looked
at
and
addressed
as
a
part
of
the
broader
picture
of.
What's
going
on
with
charging
stations
in
the
city,
so
I'm
happy
I,
think
we
we
can
amend
the
motion.
B
C
M
We
we've
had
discussions
with
Palm
Springs
promenade
about
charging
stations
in
both
the
public
and
private
parking
garages
of
the
downtown
project.
So
keep
in
mind.
The
city
currently
owns
a
nurse's
responsible
for
maintaining
and
improving
the
public
parking
garages.
So
the
project
financing
agreement
that
covered
the
costs
of
improving
those
garages
didn't
at
that
time
discuss
any
cost
for
electric
vehicle
charging
stations.
So
there's
really
no
mechanism
at
this
point
to
impose
a
condition
on
the
developer
to
put
bring
in
right.
M
Although
I
can
tell
you
that
that's
something
that
is
of
benefit
to
them
and
they're
pursuing
putting
in
some
stations
Tesla,
as
you
know,
wants
to
put
in
stations
for
free
to
promote
their
fast
charging
stations
for
their
for
their
cars
and
I.
Believe
there
might
be
some
of
those
installed
in
the
private
parking
garages
that
are
that
exist
on
that
project.
B
And
I
think
we
all
realize
that
lots
of
things
are
way
down
the
road
and
you
can't
go
back
and
impose
something
on
a
developer.
But
we
also
know
that
you
know
certain
sorts
of
commercial
entities
want
to
draw
a
particular
customer
and
they're
their
market.
Research
has
told
them
that
those
customers
drive
electric
vehicles,
so
just
sort
of
highlighting
that
and
and
a
receptiveness
on
the
part
of
the
same,
to
help
accommodate
that
there
could
be
some
win,
wins
all
around
and
I.
Guess
that's
what
I'm
hoping
we
might.
Each.
M
And
it's
even
gone
so
far
as
talking
about
where
we
locate
these,
because
in
the
past,
we've
given
prime
spaces
to
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
and
now
we're
considering
the
fact
that
really
we
should
give
the
less
desirable
spaces
to
those
stations,
particularly
if
they're
for
free
yeah
and
so
we're.
Happy
and
I
would
welcome
that.
Maybe.
B
J
B
G
G
B
B
J
G
B
B
G
B
K
B
J
B
A
J
B
J
B
A
B
A
B
C
Put
me
before
I
move
I,
just
just
in
case.
If
anybody
wants
to
do
any
further.
Looking
into
some
of
this,
these
there's
a
couple
of
TV
charging
station
websites.
You
can
go
to
to
check
out
where
the
charging
stations,
actually
they
have
maps
and
show
where
the
maps
are
where
the
charging
stations
are.
If
you
click
on
those
stations,
it'll
give
people
can
leave,
will
leave
comments,
especially
if
they're,
a
member
of
a
group
like
plug,
share
or
whatever
and
they'll
say
whether
or
not
it's
working,
how
they
like
it.
K
On
that,
Dan
I
took
a
look
at
some
of
these
and
they
aren't
very
good
about
getting
you
down
to
the
actual
level
of
okay.
Now
that
you're
at
the
location,
where
our
charging
facilities
trip
and
the
city
could
really
help
with
that
with
better
signage,
because
the
signage
is
not
very
good
at
the
facility.
K
So
that's
a
very
short-term
thing
that
the
city
could
do
it's
trying
to
maximize
the
usage
of
these
things
right
now,
and
my
only
other
question
is
then:
does
the
council
have
any
direction
for
me
about
carrying
this
forward
anyway
to
to
do
some
more
work
on
this
and
report
back
next
month?
Is
there
anything
specific
again
I
can
I
can
go
to
the
tribes
and
see
what
they're
talking
about
with
their
facilities?
I
could
go
to
the
downtown
hotels
and
see
what
they
would
say
see.
Would
that
be
of
user
interest?
J
This
much
collection
data
at
gathering
that
we
can,
and
it
all
goes
towards
grants
not
to
mention
it,
this
commission
being
the
voice
of
the
Council
of
the
citizens.
This
is
what
we
think
we
have,
and
this
is
where
we
think
we
want
to
be.
Okay
and
that's
you
know,
as
a
subcommittee.
That's
that's
what
I
would
hope
that
you
would
be
able
to
gather
that
information
and
make
you've
considered
it.
You've
weighed
the
pros
and
cons,
and
this
is
where
you
think
we
should
go,
and.
B
G
B
B
A
So
in
the
past
we
were
asked
to
accept
donations
at
our
facility
and
the
bicycles
good
thing
went
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club.
Since
then,
our
facility
is
now
the
the
location
where
people
take
bicycles,
year-round
to
be
given
out.
So
May
is
his
bike
month,
and
so
we
do
it
every
May.
Last
year
most
of
the
bikes
were
adult
bikes.
We
took
them
down,
Valley
they
are
used.
We
are
putting
them
back
together
and
sort
of
Frankenstein
style.
A
When
we
get
you
know,
kids,
bicycles
or
whatever
we
bring
those
to
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club
of
Palm
Springs.
When
we
have
just
a
huge
thing
of
adult
bicycles,
they've
been
going
down
Valley
to
help
out
down
there.
Son
son
line
is,
is
donating,
bicycles,
I,
think
next
week.
What
is
it
yeah,
maybe
Thursday
or
Friday,
actually
they're
donating
the
bicycles,
and
so
the
press
is
going
to
be
there
and
I
just
thought.
A
It
was
a
good
way
for
the
sustainability
Commission
to
be
heard,
or
are
the
people
to
hear
about
the
sustainability
Commission
and
just
say
that
you
know
they're
they're
behind
this
or
something
of
that.
So
just
a
talking
point,
but
just
being
able
to
say
sustainable,
Commission
and
just
have
people
here.
That
again
is
just
better
for
brand
awareness.
A
I
know
we're
not
a
brand
or
selling
anything,
but
we
do
want
people
to
be
aware
of
us,
and-
and
so
that's
all
I
was
saying
that
the
Commission
wanted
to
endorse,
that
we
were
taking
bicycles
and
and
fixing
them
up
and
giving
them
out.
They
can't
it
isn't
anything
that
it
isn't
a
profit
thing
by
any
means
or
anything.
That's
that's
dealt
through.
The
normal
beat
means
a
business
and
and.
B
Is
there
a
on
the
draft
of
the
motion
that
is
before?
Is
it
shouldn't
have
a
not
sure
should
have
a
question
mark
at
the
end,
should
have
a
period
at
the
end?
I
think
the
motion
would
be
that
the
sustainability,
Commission
support
listing
the
Commission
or
the
city
and
the
Commission
in
city
is
a
sponsor
of
the
bike.
Drive
currently
ongoing.
B
B
C
B
C
I've
started
it
and
I
do
need
to
get
with
engineering
and
to
get
some
of
the
questions
answered
because
they're,
like
you
know,
they
want
to
know
how
many
miles
of
bicycle
lanes.
Do
we
have
in
a
45
mile,
an
hour
zone
or
30
mile
hour
zone
stuff
like
that
and
so
I
just
haven't
I'll
have
to
get
with
savate
or.
B
A
Me
I
just
wanted
to
say
one
more
thing
about
the
bike:
Drive.
Oh
please,
these
citizens
of
Palm
Springs
are
great.
They
are
bringing
really
nice
bicycles.
I
said
that
a
lot
of
them
are
beat
up
and
old,
but
they
also
bring
a
lot
ones
and
we
get
a.
We
get
a
good
number
of
bicycles
every
year
and
some
people
actually
buy
new
ones
to
give
out.
So
it's
just
really
cool
to
see
the
citizens
of
Palm
Springs
about
generous
yeah.
I
B
H
So
we
thanks
to
Nate.
We
have
an
outline
I
think
we
discussed
last
month
the
idea
of
having
a
seminar
on
on
zero
net
energy
just
to
back
up
for
a
second.
This
is
the
proposal.
The
Energy
Commission
is
working
on
to
require
that
all
new
buildings
essentially
not
consume
energy.
H
As
of
January
1
2020
we're
working
on
perhaps
in
the
fall
having
a
half
day
seminar
you've
seen
the
outline
our
subcommittee
is
meeting
on
Thursday
morning
to
work
through
the
outline,
identify
some
of
the
speakers
and
perhaps
come
up
with
sort
of
a
basic
cost
outline
as
well,
so
we
can
come
back
because
obviously
this
would
be.
There
may
be
some
sort
of
sponsorships.
We
would
try
to
get
some
sponsors
to
defray
the
cost,
but
there
may
be
some
sort
of
out
play
off
of
our
outreach
budget
for
the
for
the
coming
fiscal
year.
H
So
we're
continuing
to
move
forward
on
that.
If
we
have,
anyone
has
any
comments
on
the
app
outline
if
we
love
to
Europe,
but
that's
basically
on
the
direction
that
we're
going
and
then
also
we'll
be
talking
about
possibility
of
a
second
seminar,
perhaps
during
modernism
week
and
there's
a
deadline
to
sort
of
submit
something
to
modernism.
We'd
go
over
the
summer,
so
I'm
will
look
about
whether
we
can
do
something
also
on
the
city
would
sort
of
co-sponsor
justice.
Commissioner,
auto
bikes,
get
something
for
the
city.
H
Slash
sustainability,
Commission
to
sponsor,
perhaps
an
hour
workshop
during
modernism
week
in
February
would
be
no
cost
but
we'd
work
with
modernism
week
on
that
we
would
have
to
submit
an
application
and
get
them
to
consider
it.
So
in
lines
probably
August.
First,
you
get
the
application,
and
so
we'll
be
working
on
that,
so
those
are
sort
of
what
we're
doing,
but
we're
moving
forward.
B
B
All
right,
good,
all
right,
thank
you
for
submitting
report
and
for
your
work
that
you'll
continue
to
do
Thursday
morning,
so
we're
at
item
2
the
Standing
Committee
on
solar
mandate.
That
is
our
joint
work
with
the
planning,
Commissioner
Commissioner
Friedman
and
mr.
Middleton
from
the
Planning
Commission.
So
so.
H
B
H
The
text
as
approved
and
recommended
for
adoption
to
City
Council
is
included
in
the
report
that
I've
prepared,
and
it
is
essentially
consistent
with
what
there
were
some
sort
of
further
development
of
some
of
the
possible
exceptions,
and
we,
we
came
up
with
some
things
that
perhaps
might
allow
a
little
bit
of
flexibility,
but
largely
it's
consistent
with
what
our
Commission
recommended
at
our
meeting
in
December.
So
our
next
stop
both
Commission's
having
passed
on
this
and
made
their
recommendations.
Our
next
stop
will
be
to
City
Council.
H
We
now
have
a
meeting
set
with
councilmember
Coors
for
May
30th
that
was
confirmed
this
morning,
so
we're
set
there.
Mr.
Middleton
and
I
will
meet
with
him
present
all
the
information
and
the
drafts
that
we've
prepared,
and
obviously
it's
up
to
the
council
and
city
manager
to
schedule
something,
but
we
hope
we
can
get
to
council
June
or
at
the
worst
case
July.
H
The
goal
would
be
to
get
something
adopted,
the
ordinance
and
finding
resolution
adopted
by
council
well
before
they
go
on
break
because
there
is,
as
I
mentioned,
before,
a
filing
requirement
with
the
Energy
Commission.
So
if
we
can
get
it
sort
of
up
to
Sacramento,
that
can
happen
during
the
summer
break
and
we
can
get
back
perhaps
by
september/october
for
second
reading
and
then
effectiveness
after
that,
so
we're
moving
forward.
There
was
a
as
I
mentioned,
the
workshop
of
the
Energy
Commission
addition
to
zne.
They
presented
their
draft
soul.
H
Ordinance
I
had
had
advanced
copies
of
that
through
my
contacts
in
Sacramento.
The
text
they
proposed
is
what
they
had
already
provided,
and
the
result
of
that,
because
I
had
the
advance
copies,
is
that
what
the
Energy
Commission
is
recommending
or
suggesting
for
cities
that
want
to
move
ahead
of
what
will
be
required
in
20
of
20
is
in
line
with
what
we
proposed
for
Palm
Springs,
so
we're
fully
aligned
with
the
state's
objectives
and
goals
and
they've
been
quite
supportive.
I've
had
a
lot
of
good
input
from
folks
in
SATA
and
Sacramento.
H
H
And
finally,
we
had,
as
you
recall,
a
presentation
on
Community
Choice
aggregation
from
Katie
barrows
of
seabag
Tom
Kirk
on
the
sea
bag
executive
director
did
a
presentation
two
weeks
ago
for
council
actually
along
the
lines
of
what
we
had
seen.
But
counsel
was
quite
supportive.
One
of
the
points
that
he
raised,
which
is
in
the
materials
that
we
had,
is
the
generating
more
solar
energy
in
Palm
Springs
means,
with,
together
with
CCA,
that
we
can
sort
of
consumed
locally
produced
solar
energy.
The
electrons
will
move
wherever
they
do.
H
It's
a
virtual,
but
essentially
you
would
be
able
to
select
asthma's
Burroughs
mentioned.
You
could
select
a
100%
green
energy
and
the
more
that
we
produce
the
more.
That
would
be
avail
for
that.
So
it
all
ties
in
quite
well
together
and
I
when
I
meet
with
councilmember
course
I'll
ask
whether
there's
any
input
from
our
Commission
that
City
Council
would
sort
of
feel
hopeful
helpful.
They
they
do
seem
to
be
positive
about
this.
Maybe
they
don't
need
us,
but
if
they
do
then
I'll
bring
that
back
next
month,
the
council,
so
our
technician.
B
Now,
let's
Marcus
a
question
Marcus
your
crystal
ball:
do
you
think
the
solar
ordinance
will
get
to
council
before
August?
As
you
know,
what's
queued
up
for
the
June
July
meetings,
the
ordinances,
the
Planning,
Commission
and
sustainability
have
been
working
on?
Do
you
think
think
think
that'll
happen
or
today.
M
C
H
M
M
B
B
G
B
D
D
K
B
G
H
I
G
From
and
in
the
discussion
I
have
corporation
technical
rep
in
October,
he
did
say
some
product
landscapers
were
getting
up
to
4
hours
on
the
charge
without
to
do
battery
I.
Think
the
difference
is
that
what
the
city
is
doing
is
its
continuous
use.
They're
blowing
large
areas
of
Street
downtown
first
private
landscapers
would
be
doing
some
blowing
in
a
house
and
stomping
and
doing
something
else
and
so
forth.
B
B
D
Yes,
well
I'd
like
to
share
first
just
to
confirm
participants,
so
we
have
Joshua
Tree
National
Park
coming
down.
We
have
a
Santa
Rosa
San
Jacinto,
Mountains,
National
Monument,
the
wildlands
Conservancy,
the
and
the
Living
Desert,
we'll
have
animal
encounters
for
kids
and
we
have
smart
education
with
the
robotics
and
scrap
gallery
Master
Gardeners.
We
have
farm-to-table
food
demonstrations
with
we've
about
six
chefs
right
now.
D
I
think
that
are
confirmed
and
will
be
buying
produce
from
the
farmers
market,
so
they're,
giving
us
their
menus
and
lists
of
the
ingredients
that
they
will
need,
and
we
have
a
hot
purple
energy,
who
has
also
sponsored
our
billboard,
which
is
going
up
shortly
so
and
we
have
the
sustainability
Commission
written
because
we
need
to
get
our
logo
improved,
I,
guess
and
also
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
It
would
be
great
if
we
can
work
on
getting
those
higher
resolution
for
future
publications
that
need
that.
D
B
D
4Th
so
it's
coming
up
in
just
a
few
weeks,
and
and
so
I
will
have
live
music
all
day
and
Globox,
the
circus
entertainment.
So
it's
very
family-friendly,
bring
kids
and
share
the
word
and
in
case
I
need
to
leave
at
7:00.
I
mean
if
we
don't
finish,
I
just
wanted
to
share
for
outreach
that
we've
had
a
table
last
week
at
the
farmers
market
to
bring
awareness
about
World,
Environment
Day,
and
if
anyone
would
like
to
come
and
sit
there
we're
not
sitting.
There
were
just
sharing
information.
D
I
B
H
In
our
solar
discussions,
one
point
that
had
been
raised
from
when
the
stakeholders
was
whether
Palm
Springs
could
do
more
to
promote
the
pace
programs
as
a
way
of
sort
of
people
sort
of
knowing
that
there's
financing
available
for
some
other
energy
efficiency
improvements.
So
perhaps
it
might
be
possible
to
follow
up
with
them.
Victor
hunt
of
Y
green
just
to
see,
if
maybe
as
some
brochures
that
you
can
put
on
a
table
or
something
like
that.
So
I
have.
H
J
B
F
B
C
J
C
C
H
M
J
C
C
M
C
B
I
H
I
I
And
this
map
that's
being
passed
around
is
from
engineering
is
a
couple
months
ago,
and
it
just
shows
some
of
the
projects
that
have
recently
been
completed
and
are
due
to
the
building
by
class
with
the
c1
and
c2.
So
you
can
get
designing
a
picture
but
favorite
part
town
and
see
what
does
either
abacus
Leora's
is
coming
up
Sydney,
and
these
are
the
things
that
we
we
want
to
include
on.
The
map.
I
I
Follow
paths
that
make
a
little
bit
more
sense
and
I
gave
you
an
example
there,
where
there's
one
the
Seawind,
the
taxi
goes
east
on
to
China,
and
then
it
goes
all
the
way
to
sunrise,
south
and
sunrise,
but
sunrises,
not
every
bicycle
friendly.
That
part
of
sunrise
number
a
bicycle
front,
so
I
think
it'd
be
better
to
take
the
route
south
on
Caballeros
east
on
Alejo,
because
their
bike
lanes
on
both
of
those
streets
now
we're
a
few
years
ago
there
weren't
so
wouldn't
see.
When
bike
loop
was
put
together.
I
I
B
I
The
last
bullet
here
is
kind
of
question.
Mark
I.
Don't
think
I
brought
this
up
last
time.
Just
ideas
been
floating
around
about
me
just
putting
a
symbol
on
the
map
about
where,
where
some
of
the
trail
heads
are
for
hiking,
not
actually
putting
trails
or
anything,
we
just
show.
Okay,
you
know
in
Ramon,
there's
a
there's
a
traveling
for
so.
B
C
J
B
B
C
C
I
B
Other
questions
all
right:
let's,
let's
do
our
last
or
the
next
item-
eight
and
then
we'll
circle
back
to
the
budget,
anything
on
f8,
active
transportation
or
pedestrian
planet.
Granted.
We
just
made
you
a
standing
committee.
So
that's
a
thing,
but
anything
tonight.
G
C
B
C
Right,
let's
looks
like
we've.
M
M
This
is
our
finance
reports
that
show
and
I'm
going
to
go
through
this
this
way,
so
they
flip
this
way.
So
what
you'll
see
are
actual
expenditures
by
date,
but
really
focus
on
the
column,
budget
column
and
then
the
balance
column
and
so
starting
with
recycling
fund.
And
if
you
have
this
sheet
a
summary
sheet,
and
if
you
have
these
the
one
sheet,
it's
color,
which
is
what's
actually
proposed
in
the
budget,
I
I,
didn't
we
didn't
copy
that
that
was
in
your
packet.
No,
it
wasn't.
It's.
J
M
However,
the
the
fund
has
established
a
pretty
sizable
reserve,
that's
available
for
recycling
programs
and
so
that
that,
if
that
fund
can
be
used
for
various
programs
that
fit
the
mold
of
recycling
and
solid
waste
reduction
and
diversion
and
for
the
most
part
to
be
honest,
we
haven't
really
utilized
the
recycling
fun.
And
so,
when
we
talk
about
the
fact
that
this
commission
really
has
limited
resources
in
the
sustainability
side,
you
might
want
to
start
focusing
on
on
where
we
can
utilize
this
commission
for
programs
that
fit
that
mold
of
the
recycling
program.
M
So
just
quickly
going
through
the
recycling
fund
expenditure
sheets.
My
handwritten
scratch
on
the
right
is
just
showing
you
that,
for
example,
we
had
six
hundred
dollars
budgeted
for
office
supplies.
We've
not
spent
one
penny
that
six
hundred
dollars
will
flow
to
the
reserve,
or
so
the
numbers
on
my
right
that
I
wrote
on
the
right.
I'm
projecting
will
be
available
and
and
be
basically
moved
into
the
reserve
for
recycling
programs.
M
So,
as
you
think
about
this,
if
you
see
that
you
don't
want
$1,500
budgeted
for
dues
and
subscriptions
as
an
example
or
eight
thousand
dollars
for
printing
and
publishing,
let
us
know
I
mean
so,
and
you
may
not
know
or
remember,
when
Michelle
would
go
through
these
budgets
with
you
that
this
amount,
these
amounts
were
budgeted
for
these
purposes
and
so
to
the
extent
you're
talking
about
bike
maps
or
other
things.
There
is
money
available
for
printing
and
publishing
and
so
forth.
M
You
for
clarifying
that
so
so
certain
costs
are
just
automatic,
obviously
insurance
and
admin
services
and
benefits,
and
so
forth,
but
getting
into
the
program
services.
So
if
you
flip
to
page
7,
where
I
have
the
88
69
written,
that's
just
an
unscheduled
capital
project
holdover
for
any
kind
of
program
that
you
might
want
to
spend
that
on.
M
But
we
do
have
some
established
programs
and
and
they're
simply
not
being
utilized
and
I,
don't
know
how
we
can
better
promote
how
we
were
going
to
spend
funds
for
these
programs
like
the
plastic
recycling
program,
21000,
which
we
actually
only
spent
the
700
for
the
film
series
out
of
that
trash,
recycle
trash
and
recycling
set
receptacles
10,000
that
hasn't
had
any
spending
from
it
very
little
computer
recycling
program.
10,000,
our
household
hazardous
waste
program
is
actually
very
active.
M
Our
Sharps
program
is
paid
and
our
shredder
shredding
program
is
paid
out
of
that
and
we
will
continue
those
programs.
So
that's
really
all
that
we're
doing
through
the
the
recycling
fund
side
of
the
Commission.
So
the
60,000
219
is
essentially
funds
that
I
think
will
be
carried
over
and
can
be
deposited
back
into
the
to
the
reserve.
M
We
show
the
reduction
in
personnel
costs
and
then
the
continuation
of
budget
for
materials
and
supplies
and
program
expenses
and
so
forth.
So
this
side
of
the
Commission's
activities
is
healthy.
Although
we
have
to
be
careful,
because
if
we
get
aggressive
and
come
up
with
all
sorts
of
recycling
programs
and
services,
we
could
quickly
deplete
this
seven
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
then
and
then
really
stuck
and.
B
So
what
just
I
mean
I?
This
is
very
good
information
for
the
waste
reduction
standing
committee
now
to
know
what
would
you
say
then
Marcus
would
be
the
right
amount
of
money
to
try
to
budget
each
year
out
of
out
of
125
and
clear.
Clearly
you
don't
want
us
to
budget
700
thousand
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
That's
what
you're
saying,
but
what
would
be
the
right
amount?
Well.
M
The
numbers
to
look
at
if
you're,
if
you're,
just
looking
at
what
you
bring
in
every
year,
you
only
bring
in
140,000
right
after
you
deduct
for
personnel
costs
and
materials
and
supplies.
It
doesn't
really
leave
you
much
if
any
to
maintain
a
reserve.
So
to
the
extent.
So,
essentially,
you
can
just
look
at
and
say:
I've
got.
M
$800,000
I
could
spend
that
in
eight
years
at
$100,000
a
year
right
and
then
I
won't
have
any
money
left
in
my
my
fund,
except
to
spend
one
hundred
and
forty
thousand
a
year
for
a
person
and
some
supplies
and
I
think
that's
the
genesis
for
why
David
was
suggesting
trying
to
avoid
incurring
a
full-time
staff
person
split
between
both
funds
right,
given
the
limited
revenues
and-
and
that
goes
into
a
whole
nother
realm
of
well.
We
want
to
start
exploring
in
the
franchise
agreement
raising
trash
rates.
M
So
flipping
past
all
the
personnel
costs
when
you
get
to
page
five.
What
I've
done
is
under
the
budget
column,
so
I'm
on
page
five
at
the
bottom.
It
tells
shows
you
four
two
zero
one.
Five,
that's
the
account
number
for
communications.
Essentially,
that's
paying
for
Daniels
cell
phone
and
Michelle
are
part
of
Michelle,
so
he
doesn't
have
a
cell.
J
J
J
C
M
M
If
you
flip,
you
can
see,
we've
spent
seven
hundred
and
forty-one
dollars
out
of
the
twelve
hundred
budget
for
her
cell
phone,
and
so
since
that's
not
Daniels
phone,
we'll
definitely
get
that
cancelled
score,
not
spending
more
for
a
phone,
that's
not
being
used
so
apologize
for
that.
But
the
checkmark
means
that
the
budget
proposed
for
next
year
maintains
that
twelve
hundred
dollar
budget
communication.
M
M
Non
capital
equipment
we
budget
a
little
bit
for
that.
We
haven't
spent
any
similar
with
travel
and
training
moving
forward.
You
know
five
hundred
dollars
for
conferences
which
we
haven't.
Had
anybody
go
to
dues
and
subscriptions?
We
had
a
minor
cost
for
something
for
AQMD,
printing
and
publishing
the
the
unallocated
was
simply
where
we
took
and
appropriated
all
of
the
remaining
sustainability
fund
balance,
which
was
only
seventy
eighty
thousand.
M
M
So
when
we
get
into
contractual
services,
I
just
thought
I'd
highlight
this.
So
last
year
we
budgeted
55,000,
which
thirty
thousand
was
for
these
blanket
purchase,
orders
with
Chris
foster
and
GM
construction.
Those
were
holdovers
when
we
were
doing
all
those
bike
racks
throughout
town
and
we
have
it.
We
haven't
really
installed
any
five.
M
Well,
we
will
address
within
that
internally,
but
we
were
I,
wasn't
seeing
any
expenditures
out
of
those
contracts,
I'm
trying
to
free
up
some
more
money
right
to
have
it
for
you
to
spend,
and
then
you
can
see
I
just
want
to
highlight
the
second
body.
The
second
line
for
the
bottom
is
Michelle
nice
Ian's
contract
for
25,000,
and
we
really
haven't
used
her
as
much
as
I
thought,
but
this
would
be
where
we
would
have
a
consultant
if
there
was
one
and
budget
for
a
consultant.
M
Advertising
we
really
haven't
had
any
spent
expenditures
from
there
and
then,
as
far
as
programs
on
sustainability,
we
pay
for
security.
At
the
household
hazardous
waste
site.
Under
a
Bop
operations,
we
had
$2,500
budgeted
for
sustainability
master
plan.
We
haven't
had
any
expenditures
this
year
for
that
so
I'm
not
really
quite
sure
what
that
budget
was
for,
and
then
we
get
into
the
kind
of
the
bigger
program
so
green,
downtown
business.
I'm.
Sorry,
not
that
staff
training
we
haven't
had
any
cost.
M
So
you
can
see
we
really
haven't
had
any
expenditures
on
some
of
these
programs,
including
the
water
efficiency
program,
the
Evy
Grant
County
funds
we're
holding
35,000
there.
We.
We
have
to
be
careful,
though,
because
I
have
to
go
back
and
look
with
Stacy
and
Michelle
to
confirm
that
we're
moving
forward
with
that
project
and
that
those
local
match
funds,
which
is
what
these
are.
If
they're
going
to
be
used,
if
we're
going
to
use
the
full
35,000,
but
that's
what
that
was
budgeted
for.
M
M
M
And
then
moving
to
page
12
again,
there
was
65,000
budgeted
last
year
for
the
MS
RC
bike
grant
match,
which
that
is
a
contract.
I
know
we're
working
to
finalizing
and
close
out
with
Michele
correct
I.
Don't
have
an
update
on
that
so
and
then
there's
another
blanket
purchase
order
out
of
this
account
for
bike
racks
for
15,000.
So
that's
65,000
in
my
mind.
If
we
can
confirm
the
50,000,
that's
there
for
the
bike
grant
match
how
much
of
that's
really
going
to
be
used.
M
There's
some
funding
here
that
might
be
able
to
be
reappropriation
for
programs
and
then
outreach
and
education
programs.
We
haven't
had
any
expenditures
there.
There
was
5,000,
budgeted
there
and
then
the
green
building
program.
As
you
know,
council
agreed
with
the
proposal
to
provide
25,000
seed
money
for
incentives
for
developers
to
voluntarily
comply
with
the
city's
green
building
program
and
it's
just
not
either
being
promoted
correctly
or
they're,
just
not
interested
or
but
that
money
is
still
there
and.
H
Guess
when
Michelle
left
I
mean
this
is
something
that
we
had
talked
about,
but
when
Michelle
left
there
is
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
I'm
not
sure
whether
you
know
ever
got
posted
or
promoted
or
whatever
with
the
building
department.
I
wouldn't
want
to
see
it
disappear,
but
I
would
like
props
when
we
get.
You
know
this
new
staff
person
the
economic
development,
to
sort
of
make
something
of
it.
One
of
the
areas
that
in
particular
it
was
really
not
so
much
for
developers.
H
M
And
so,
if
you
had
this
this
summary
sheet,
it
shows
that,
through
the
trash
franchise
agreement,
we
only
generate
about
three
hundred
seventy
four
thousand
a
year
and
sustainability
funds,
and
so
after
after
really
reducing
down
the
budget
for
next
year
and
paring
down
those
program
expenses
to
free
up
that
money
to
go
into.
So
you
have
money
to
identify
for
whatever
purpose
you
want,
if
it's
twenty
five
thousand
again
for
green
building,
so
be
it
that
two
hundred
fifty
four
thousand
would
be
identified.
M
An
unallocated,
you
know
account,
and
so
you
can
see
even
by
really
drastically
reducing
annual
costs
to
a
hundred
thousand.
That
only
generates
two
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
a
year
for
program
expenses,
and
so
I
wanted
to
highlight
this
to
just
show
the
the
thought
process
of
the
wisdom
of
whether
we
budget
back
in
the
cost
of
a
manager
spread
between
sustainability
and
recycling
or
what
David
had
proposed,
was
to
essentially
reassign
this
under
economic
and
Community
Development,
which
honestly
has
capacity
in
that
department
to
help
address
the
Commission's
programs
and
services.
M
But
what
David
wanted
me
to
you
tonight
is
that
he
and
I
are
happy
to
work
with
the
chair
and
really
whatever
you
see
is
will
serve.
You
best
is
what
we
will
implement
and
if
that's
having
an
assigned
full-time
staff
person,
you
know,
because,
admittedly,
Stacy
and
I
and
the
new
academic
development
director
obviously
have
other
other
assignments
and
responsibilities,
and
so
we
we
understand
the
need
the
Commission
might
have
for
a
dedicated
person.
B
I
think
I
think
we
understand
is
the
Commission.
We,
we
are
not
responsible
for
dictating
what
sort
of
staff
the
city
manager
recommends
to
council
or
boys,
so
that's
so
David
had
I
mean
David
had
described
across
the
past
year,
a
number
of
different
scenarios
and
the
one
that
he
seemed
to
be
settled
on
in
his
last
visit
with
us
was
the
Community
and
Economic
Development
Director
position,
and
he
said
that
that
person
would
have
some
capacity.
B
He
didn't
didn't,
say
you
know
what
slice
is
it
5%
or
10%
I
mean
he
wasn't
specific
about
that
so,
but
I
think
it.
You
know
to
your
point,
there's
finite
dollars
and
if
we
want
to
have
some
funds
to
actually
execute
work
that
is
described
in
the
sustainability
master
plan,
we
can't
assume
that
all
of
that
is
going
to
come
from
a
grant
or
from
some
other
magic
source.
Beyond
this,
so
I.
C
B
We
should
probably
shouldn't
spend
all
that
two
hundred
thousand
next
year,
because
then
you're
down
to
nothing
current
ensuing
here
well
and
I-
think
that's
the
that's.
The
issue
going
forward
is
and
that's
an
issue
that
is
not
just
ours.
It's
a
council
issue.
We
can
see.
You
know
we
can
project
a
demise
within
a
very
short
lifespan
for
the
end
of
the
commission.
If
we're
forced
to
use
only
this
money,
I
mean
we
can
spend
five
hundred
dollars
a
year
and
live
forever,
but
to
have
any
significant
impact.
G
Just
have
one
comment:
yes,
what
I've
learned
from
this
is
that
there
are
a
lot
of
programs
that
have
been
planned
in
the
past
that
weren't
necessarily
executed
in
the
last
year,
but
that
might
give
us
a
clue
as
to
what
we
might
want
to
continue
and
what
percentage
of
the
new
person's
time
we
might
request.
So
this
is
this
good.
I
know
how
we
do
it,
but
this
could
serve
as
a
basis
for
figuring
out
what
we
would
like
that
person
to
do
to
support
their
vision
and
of.
B
I
I
In
a
perfect
world,
we
would
have
a
full-time
staff
person
devoted
to
us,
but
short
of
that.
I
still
think
that
this
commission
can
make
some
recommendations
and
have
a
have
a
say
into
if,
if
we're
going
to
be
going
with
the
economic
development
area
to
to
push
a
bit
to
make
sure
that
we
can
actually
implement
the
sustainability
plan,
because
if
we
only
get
five
or
ten
percent
of
that
departments,
time
that
plans
not
going
anything,
and
we
also
need
to
leverage
grants
and
do
we
have
a
new
grant.
Writer.
I
G
M
David
said
this
before
Stacy's
plates
pole.
So
there
is,
there
is
capacity,
diagrammatic
development,
because
the
Redevelopment
Agency
has
gone
away
next
year.
All
of
the
remaining
successor
agency
duties
go
to
the
county,
so
he
sees
that
capacity.
They
are
in
that
department.
So
I
don't
know
what
the
consensus
is
of
the
Commission
of
where
you're
at
on
those
two
models
and
if
there
are
thoughts,
I'm
happy
to
hear
them.
A
A
G
Vice
Chair
Wilson
well
I
was
going
to
ask
basically
the
same
question
as
commissioner
Otto,
but
I
did
take
a
look
at
the
job
announcement
that
Dan
was
kind
enough
to
provide
and
there
are
a
lot
of
responsibilities
associated
with
that
position.
So
that's
where
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
if
we
could
get
a
sense
of
at
least
some
allocation
of
hours
by
that
staff
person.
M
You
know
in
this
case
in
economic
development,
direct
apartment
or
if
it
was
staying
with
Stacey
in
minimus
maintenance
and
facilities,
or
the
option
is
whether
it's
Michelle,
my
seein
and
her
consulting
business
or
another
consultant
that
is
now
engaged,
full-time
or
three-quarter
time.
The
budget
for
whatever
that
contract
cost
would
be
versus
a
you
know,
which
is
less
expensive
than
having
to
have
a
fully
burned
in
place,
so
I
think
we're
open
to
whatever
the
Commission
ultimately
thinks
is
best
for
the
for
the
program.
I
M
Have
time,
even
though
the
budget
is
in
the
money,
isn't
in
the
budget
for
Michelle's
position
the
positions
still
in
the
allocated
positions
plan?
So
if
you
chose
to
say
to
to
us
no,
we
really
think
it's
important,
it's
teh
standalone
and
we
hire
someone
like
Michelle.
There's
the
ability
to
do
that
begin.
It
goes
against
having
funding
to
do
other
things,
but
so
so
there's
flexibility.
So
alright.
M
B
We
can
certainly
do
that.
I
know
that
at
one
point
Commissioner
got
there.
You
said
you
wanted
to
be
on
a
budget
committee.
This
may
have
been
exactly
what
you
had
in
mind.
If,
if
there
is
a
team
of
people
who
would
like
to
to
work
on
some
sort
of
budget
scenarios
and
and
communicate
with
the
office
of
the
city
manager,
we
can
do
that.
I.
E
B
H
Make
this
quick,
we,
the
city,
I,
guess
we
mark,
you
may
have
actually
gotten
that
rather
long,
but
unfortunately
useless
letter
and
and
I
thought
there
would
be
some
information
that
we
could
get
there
so
working
closely
with
TWA
and
going
to
the
boundaries
of
my
Excel
capabilities,
I
was
able
to
produce
the
spreadsheet
that
you
all
received
this
afternoon.
The
good
news
is
that
off
of
the
2013
benchmark,
the
state
said
the
city
has,
as
of
2016,
reduces
consumption
by
about
37
percent.
So
that's
very
good.
I
mentioned
that
to
Ashley
Metzger.
H
She
thought
that
you
know
they
would.
She
would
take
that
up
with
a
Conservation
Committee
of
DWA
and
perhaps
do
a
little.
You
know
ceremony
or
something
to
thank
the
city,
I
believe
we're
DWA,
single
largest
customer,
and
so
when
we
reduced
by
37
percent.
That
obviously
is
large
enough
to
reflect
their
system.
H
I
I
B
H
Mr.
Friedman,
once
again,
I'm
also
tying
into
my
the
remarks
that
I'll
be
making
tomorrow
night
at
Council
on
the
taskforce
recommendations,
there's
a
new
California
Supreme
Court
decision
on
the
Public
Records
Act.
That
also
applies
to
appointed
officials,
meaning
that
all
of
the
emails
that
we
use
on
our
private
emails,
our
public
records
I
have
are
will
be
asking
that
the
city
consider
giving
appointees
to
boards
and
commissions
City
email
addresses,
I,
don't
know
whether
that's
technically
possible.
H
In
the
meantime,
I've
asked
that
everyone
gets
some
training
on
that
and
that
what
we
can
do
immediately.
I
think
we
do
as
a
matter
of
course
that
make
sure
that
Stacey
and
Daniel
are
copied
on
all
of
the
emails
that
we
do,
because
that
essentially
gets
that
information
onto
the
city
server
and
that
satisfies
the
requirement.
So
the
quick
fixes
make
sure
the
Daniel
and
Stacey
are
copied
on
all
information.
H
C
One
quick
thing:
anybody
interested
in
the
and
watching
the
videos
here
in
the
Convention
Center.
You
can
go
to
youtube
and
search
for
city
of
Palm.
Springs
live
stream
on
your
YouTube
app
and
you'll,
find
it
there
and
you
can
replay
this
entire
two
and
a
half
hours
and
you
can
watch
it
live
while
you're
sitting
here.
Commissioner.
E
Goins
I
just
wanted
to
make
kind
of
a
little
statement.
One
of
the
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
economic
sustainability
is
one
of
the
items
that's
in
the
sustainability
plan,
and
but
a
few
months
that
I've
been
here,
it's
been
kind
of
a
a
concern
that
we
haven't
been
dealing
with
that
or
haven't
been
doing
anything
in
that
area
and
I
wonder
if
we're
indirectly
getting
there
through
this
budget
at
hoc
committee,
I
mean
in
a
way
we
are
what's
happening
to
this.
E
C
At
the
last
meeting,
there
was
interest
from
the
commissioners
to
hear
from
Jim
carpet
from
the
Coachella
Valley
Mountains
Conservancy,
on
the
prop
1
funding
they
have
and
what,
where
that
might
coincide
with
some
of
our
interest.
Stacey
and
I
followed
up
with
him
and
he
is
going
to
come
to
our
June
meeting.