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From YouTube: Administrative Appeals Board | Jan 26 2022
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Regular meeting of the City of Palm Springs Administrative Appeals Board, held January 26th, 2022
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F
D
A
A
If
somebody
wishes
to
speak,
they
have
three.
They
will
have
three
minutes
for
each
speaker
and
all
the
though
the
board
values
your
comments.
Pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
this
board
cannot
take
action
on
anything,
that's
not
on
the
posted
published
agenda.
Testimony
for
hearings
will
only
be
taken
at
the
time
of
each
of
those
hearings
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
begin
the
public
comment
period.
A
You
all
right
moving
on
the
next
item.
Item
number
three:
is
the
appeal
of
the
permanent
ineligibility
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
200
East
Racquet
Club
Road
Number
Four
board
secretary?
Could
you
please
ensure
that
the
city
staff
and
the
appellant
understand
that
their
testimony
is
under
oath.
A
D
G
H
Yes
good
evening,
thank
you,
chair
Vice,
chair
board
members,
City
staff
business
on
the
call.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance
and
we
over
oversee
the
vacation
rental.
Compliance
within
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
in
a
staff
report
in
front
of
you
this
evening,
is
for
a
property
regarding
200
East,
Racquet,
Club,
Road,
Unit
Number
Four
here
in
Palm
Springs,
it
was
found
at
this
property
was
operating
as
a
vacation
rental
without
a
registration
certificate.
H
The
investigation
from
a
code
compliance
officer
found
which
the
elements
are
listed
in
the
staff
report
that
there
was
a
violation
and
a
citation,
was
issued
on
July,
8th
2021.
The
code
officer
that
conducted
the
investigation
is
on
the
call
this
evening
and
I
would
like
to
invite
code
officer
Williams
to
give
testimony
regarding
that
investigation.
Thank
you.
F
A
F
I
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
thank
you.
I
apologize
for
that
on
July
6
2021,
a
lead
was
submitted
through
the
department
of
special
program
compliance
website
that
reported
a
listing
on
VRBO
that
was
not
in
compliance.
Delete,
also
included
a
link
to
the
advertisement,
and
the
advertisement
number
is
2300-639
on
VRBO
and
that
is
located
on
page
25
of
item
three
in
your
packets.
The
ad
has
a
minimum
stay
requirement
of
21
nights
and
is
described
as
a
three-bedroom
two-bathroom
condo
that
was
purchased
from
the
original
owner
and
recently
underwent
a
six-month
renovation.
I
At
that
time,
I
sent
a
booking
inquiry
to
the
property
host
Mr
Ty
Jackson
in
the
inquiry
I
asked
Mr
Jackson
if
the
home
was
available
for
the
dates
of
September
1st
through
September
22nd,
as
my
husband
and
I
along
with
family
members,
were
going
to
be
in
Palm
Springs
to
visit
family
members
that
item
three
page
38
in
your
packets,
the
following
day,
Mr
Jackson,
replied.
Yes,
it
is
available.
I
will
block
out
the
entire
month
to
allow
for
cleaning
and
maintenance
when
you
depart
feel
free
to
book
for
the
dates
you
need.
I
Let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
all
the
best
Ty
I
responded
shortly
thereafter
with.
Thank
you
so
much
for
getting
back
to
me.
Ty
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
am
not
going
to
be
charged
for
the
entire
month,
as
we
are
only
going
to
be
there
for
21
nights.
Please
let
me
know
so.
I
can
book
it.
Thank
you.
Dave
Mr
Jackson
responded.
I
After
with
yes,
it
is,
it
would
be
for
21
days,
I'll
block
out
the
rest
of
the
rest
to
be
compliant
with
our
HOA
and
allow
for
cleaning
and
maintenance.
After
you
depart
all
the
best
Ty
at
that
time,
as
Mr
Jackson
stated,
he
would
rent
the
property
for
21
days
and
only
block
up
the
remaining
time
to
satisfy
his
HOA
I
issued
citation
ab0336
to
the
property
owner.
Mr,
Jackson
and
I
am
available
for
any
questions
you
may
have.
A
B
B
B
J
Was
that
a
question
for
me?
Yes,
I,
think
with
regards
to
the
to
the
HOA
and
blocking
it
out.
I
I,
don't
know
what
the
HOA
rules
are,
but
I
assume
that
it's.
You
know
that
they
don't
want
rentals
less
than
30
days
or
whatever
their
their
standard
is
so
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
would
be
compliant
with
that,
and
the
same
goes
for
for
our
code.
J
C
J
F
J
A
A
All
right,
thank
you.
If
there's
no
more
questions
from
the
board
for
the
city
at
this
time,
we'll
like
to
open
up
the
appeal
hearing,
the
appellant
is
invited
to
speak
for
up
to
10
minutes
any
members
of
the
public
who
desire
to
speak
on
this
appeal
hearing
shall
have
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak,
and
if
a
member
of
the
public
chooses
to
testify,
the
appellant
will
be
invited
to
provide
a
rebuttal
for
up
to
an
additional
two
minutes
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
begin
the
public
testimony
period.
L
Oh
yeah,
yes
and
I
apologize.
You
guys
I
just
got
diagnosed
with
a
bad,
chronic
lung
condition
so
I'm
on
a
nebulizer.
So
my
voice
is
a
little
weak.
But
but
I
have
to
apologize
for
being
naive
in
all
of
this
I
own
long-term
rentals
in
Washington
and
they're
all
12
months
and
greater.
The
HOA
here
does
enforce
30-day
or
greater
stays
and
I
misinterpreted
that
as
being
that,
that
could
be
one
set
of
guests
within
30
days
and
you
know,
and
you
couldn't
book
additional
guests.
L
So
that's
why,
in
the
dialogue
that
I
had
with
the
compliance
officer
that
I
I
knew
that
I
had
to
book
it
out
for
30
days
and
so
I
completely
misinterpreted
that-
and
you
know,
have
since
you
know,
done
a
significant,
more
amount
of
research
and
I'm.
Actually
in
the
condo
now
and
I've
removed
all
advertising
and
I
don't
plan
to
ever
rented
out
again
and
and
and
this
is
going
to
be
become
my
permanent
residence.
And
this
is
where
I'm
receiving
medical
care
at
this
time.
L
A
F
L
A
L
L
A
G
G
F
A
Take
on
it
is
very
different
is
that
he
was
accepting
a
21-day
reservation:
the
fact
that
he
blocked
the
calendar,
I
guess
I'm,
not
seeing
how
that
that
effects
the
the
ordinance
that,
if
he
would
have
taken
the
reservation
for
29
days,
I
think
that
would
be
different.
But
this
was
a
21
day,
so
it
was
clearly
less
than
what
the
city
requires
and
what
the
the
HOA
requires.
C
G
Well,
let's,
let's
try
that
another
way
if
the
guy
said
I'd
like
to
run
it
for
21
days
and
his
response
was
I'm
not
allowed
to
do
that,
I
can
rent
you
a
month.
I
can
rent
you
30
days,
29
days,
use
it.
What
you
want
use
it
five
days,
20
days,
use
what
you
want.
I'll
run
it
to
you.
So
I'd
like
to
see
what
the
lease
what
they
actually
said
at
their
lease.
They.
A
G
C
It's
clear
to
us,
but
it
may
not
be
clearly
appellant
that
we
don't
have
the
luxury
to
deal
with
the
fine
and
not
the
like.
We
have
to
uphold
the
whole
thing
or
deny
the
whole
thing
like,
so
we
don't.
We
can't
parse
this
the
way
you're
asking
so
to
us
it's
clear,
but
you
you
may
not
understand
that
if
we
could
I
think
we
would
have
that
discussion,
but
we're
not
allowed
to
do
that.
G
A
B
F
A
Ordinance,
doesn't
the
ordinance
is
pretty
clear:
whatever
the
amount
of
money
is
is
irrelevant,
there
can
be
no
money
exchanged
and
it
could
still
be
a
violation.
The
amount
of
money
doesn't
matter
to
the
city.
What
matters
to
the
city
is
the
number
of
days,
and
in
this
case
both
the
city
and
the
appellant
have
said
it
was
21
days.
That's
clearly
in
a
short-term
rental
category.
A
K
G
A
So
Mr
Jackson
just
two
quick
notes.
Of
course
you
will
get
an
official
notification
from
the
city.
I
know
you
had
told
us
that
you
were
actually
living
in
the
property.
This
does
not
prevent
you
from
renting
it
long
term
and
by
the
city's
definition
that
is
I
believe
greater
than
29
nights.
So
if,
in
the
future
you
want
to
do
it
long
term,
you
still
have
that
right.
That
has
not.
A
F
A
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
number
four:
it
is
the
permanent
ineligibility
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
1109
via
tennis
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
ensure
that
the
city
staff
and
the
appellant
understand
that
their
testimony
is
under
oath.
D
H
Hi
good
evening
board
chair
Vice,
chair
board
members,
City
staff
appellants
on
the
call
this
evening.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford,
with
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance.
We
oversee
the
vacation
rental
compliance
here
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
before
you
this
evening
is
a
staff
report
regarding
the
property
located
at
1109
via
tennis
in
Palm
Springs.
It
was
found
through
investigation
by
a
co-compliance
officer
that
this
property
was
operating
as
a
short-term
vacation
rental.
H
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
David
Williams
code
compliance
officer
with
the
Department
of
special
program,
compliance
on
July,
26
2021,
a
lead
was
received
through
the
department
of
special
programs.
Compliance
website
reporting
a
listing
on
Airbnb
that
was
not
in
compliance.
The
lead
also
included
a
link
to
the
advertisement.
The
advertisement
number
is
451-63726
on
Airbnb
and
that
is
located
on
page
23
of
your
packets.
I
The
advertisement
has
a
minimum
State
requirement
of
14
nights
and
it's
described
as
a
two-bedroom
two-bathroom
condo
I
then
sent
a
booking
inquiry
to
the
property
host
Susan
in
the
inquiry.
I
asked
Susan
if
the
home
was
available
for
the
dates
of
September
3rd
to
September,
19
2021,
as
my
husband
and
I,
would
be
in
Palm
Springs
for
our
anniversary,
that
is
item
4,
Page
38
in
your
packet,
the
same
day,
Susan
replied,
hi,
Dave,
happy
anniversary
in
advance;
I
don't
have
it
listed,
but
it's
taken
up
to
the
sixth.
I
I
The
place
in
the
complex
are
stunning
and
has
just
about
everything.
You'd
want
and
then
some
pool
and
jacuzzi
is
right
across
the
grass
shopping
restaurants,
all
very
close,
but
World
apart
inside
complex
again,
so
sorry
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
another
option,
but
this
is
too
problematic
for
the
earlier
date
you
requested,
please.
Let
me
know
looking
forward
to
hearing
back
from
you
warm
regards
and
thanks
so
much
for
your
inquiry.
Susan
baraz
I
responded
shortly
thereafter
with
hi
Susan,
thanks
for
getting
back
to
me
quickly.
I
How
would
September
11th
to
26th
work?
Our
anniversary
is
on
the
18th,
so
that
will
work
for
us.
Please
let
me
know
thank
you.
Susan
responded
Perfection,
it's
all
yours
for
that
time,
I'm!
So
sorry
that
your
earlier
dates
overlapped
with
my
needing
it.
But
this
is
great.
Sorry
only
just
saw
your
message
I'm
visiting
my
daughter
and
son-in-law
and
my
twin
granddaughters.
As
their
anniversary
and
the
twins
birthday
ninth
birthday,
my
brother
and
his
wife
came
for
dinner.
I
They
live
in
Berkeley
friends
from
San
Francisco
stop
by
no
one's
seen
each
other
for
a
year
and
a
half
except
my
own
kids.
So
it's
been
major
events
every
day,
I
see
you're
in
SF.
Maybe
you
both
should
stop
by
as
well
with
a
smiley
face
emoji
anyway,
the
condo
is
yours
and
I'm
so
happy.
You
could
work
it
out.
I,
don't
know
the
best
way
to
book,
except
perhaps
canceling
the
original
dates
and
rebooking
with
the
new
ones.
I'll
then
pre-approve
and
you'll
be
set
you're
set,
no
matter.
As
of
this.
I
As
this
works
out,
fine
I'll
wait
to
hear
back
and
get
you
all
the
info
you
need.
The
place
is
just
fantastic
and
great
way
to
celebrate
the
anniversary
or
otherwise,
well
equipped
with
everything
needed
and
more,
including
a
work
area.
If
you
need
that
too
thanks
so
much
Dave
looking
forward
to
having
you
stay
and
enjoy
it
all
warm
regards
Susan
baraz.
I
A
K
A
A
F
A
Okay,
if
there's
no
other
questions
for
the
city
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
the
appeal
hearing,
the
appellant
will
be
invited
to
speak
for
up
to
10
minutes.
Any
members
of
the
public
who
desire
to
speak
on
this
appeal
hearing
shall
have
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak,
and
if
any
member
of
the
public
chooses
to
testify,
the
appellant
will
be
invited
to
provide
a
rebuttal
for
up
to
two
additional
minutes
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
begin
the
public
testimony
period.
M
M
Don't
even
remember
this
whole
thing,
but
it
sounds
like
what
I
wrote
sounds
like
me,
but
I
only
know
that
they
have
the
rules
and
regulations
of
14
days
Plus
on
the
listing
of
the
site
itself
for
the
sunrise,
Racquet
Club
It
also
says
without
any
other.
You
know
context
with
it
14-day
minimum
for
the
complex.
That's
the
listings
on
people
that
want
to
look
at
it
for
for
buying
what
I
didn't
know
and
never
knew
until
I
actually
spoke
with
Patrick.
M
You
know
clarification
of
of
what
I'm
I'm,
what
I'm
having
to
do
for
that
as
soon
as
I
spoke
to
Patrick.
Of
course,
I
took
it.
The
whole
thing:
I
went
back
and
and
eliminated
the
whole
thing
for
30
days
and
I
haven't
I,
haven't
rented
it
well.
I
haven't
rented
it
for,
for
I,
haven't
rented
it
last
year,
because
I
was
renovating
my
kitchen,
but
this
year
it's
on
now
for
only
30
days
and
in
fact,
I
have
people
staying
there
for
three
months
at
the
moment.
M
M
F
M
Okay,
because
I'm
I'm
I
just
got
it
returned,
and
so
did
so
did
you.
It
was
a
check
enclosed,
but
what
I?
What
I
don't
want
ever
again
is
to
do
anything
that
is
first
of
all,
I've
never
done
anything
legal.
In
my
entire
life,
I
I'm
I
follow
the
books
and
I
followed,
unfortunately,
the
wrong
book,
because
I
followed
my
complexes
rules
and
not
apparently
what
I
didn't
know
was
Palm
Springs,
City
Rules
and
that's
the
difference.
M
So
that's,
that's
all
I
have
to
say:
I
use
this
as
supplement
I'm,
I,
just
retired,
and
this
was
my
my
means
to
to
get
in
some
some
money.
I
have
I
do
a
lot
of
things
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I
I.
Think
I
sent
something
out
that
says:
I'm
I'm
with
this
photo,
the
Palm
Springs
photo
Festival.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
big
event
and
and
I'm
part
of
that
event.
M
You
know:
Social
Security,
So,
I'm,
79
years
old,
I
need
supplements
and
that's
that's.
It
I
didn't
follow
the
rules
of
the
city
because
I
didn't
know
them
and
I
followed
the
rules
of
the
complex,
and
that's
all
that
I.
That
I
could
say
on
my
part
until
I
got
the
citation
which,
which
I
didn't
even
know
and
I
called
also
to
find
out
what
I
didn't
understand.
What
I
did
wrong.
M
F
M
M
M
M
B
A
A
M
M
M
N
N
I
am
a
dear
friend
of
Miss
barres
I'm,
an
attorney
in
Santa
Monica
I'm,
trying
to
help
her
out.
She
is
a
dedicated
supporter
of
Palm
Springs.
She
convinced
me
to
buy
a
property
in
the
same
complex.
She
has
convinced
other
people
to
buy
properties,
not
only
in
this
complex
but
elsewhere
in
Palm
Springs.
N
She
is
a
very
humble
in
describing
her
activity
she's
the
principal
chair
of
Photography
exhibits
around
the
world.
She
is
the
principal
sponsor
and
creator
of
the
Palm
Springs
photo
exhibition,
she's,
probably
responsible
personally,
for
bringing
in
millions
of
dollars
from
people
who
attend
and
stay
in
Palm
Springs
to
attend
these.
These
festivals,
these
photography
festivals,
which
have
been
going
on.
As
you
said
since
2006.
N
N
Both
of
us
attempted
to
register
for
short-term
rentals.
I
I
saw
Mr
Basile
asked
that
question
the
the
applications
we
sent
in
by
the
way
there's
no
easy
way
to
interpret
these.
These
documents
were
returned
with
our
checks.
We
could
not
even
register
for
a
tot
form
which,
as
you
look
at
the
form,
the
vacation
rental
registration
requires
a
tot
number
well.
When
we
tried
to
do
that,
it
was
returned,
so
there
was
impossible
for
us
both
of
us
to
register
for
a
short-term
vacation
rental.
Even
if
we
wanted
to
do
that
which
we.
M
N
N
F
A
N
Yes,
but
the
tot
number
is
a
conditioned
president
of
getting
the
the
vacation
registration
and,
if
you
don't
have
the
tot
number,
you
can't
file
for
vacation
registration
permit.
So
when
we
applied
for
the
tot-
and
that
was
rejected,
there's
no
way.
If
you
look
at
the
requirements
for
you
to
get
a
vacation
registration
for
less
than
28
days,
all.
A
Right,
thank
you,
so
just
so
we're
clear.
Actually
what
he
just
said.
I
do
not
believe
is
true.
You
do
not
need
a
tot
number
to
get
a
vacation
rental,
those
get
applied
for
at
the
same
time,
and
the
reason
it
was
probably
returned
and
Patrick.
Please
confirm
if
this
is
accurate,
that
it
was
returned
because
you
had
a
citation
for
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
and
the
city
will
not
process
a
permit
application
if
there
is
a
citation
outstanding
for
an
unregistered
vacation
rental.
Is
that
correct,
Patrick.
H
Instincture
it's
depending
on
what
I'm
hearing
there
could
be
two
avenues
that
were
taken.
The
finance
website
has
a
tot
permit
and
our
website
for
vacation
rentals
has
a
tot
permit
that
can
be
applied
for
in
the
process
as
well
as
applying
for
vacation
rental
certificates.
So
if
they
went
to
the
finance
website
to
apply
for
a
tot
permit,
that's
there
because
there's
also
other
businesses
in
the
city
that
use
a
tot
permit
small
boutique,
hotels,
other
hotels,
stuff
like
that
that
be
collecting
Transit
oxygen
tax.
H
Now,
if,
if
it
was
that
tot
permit
was
found
on
our
vacation
rental
website,
there
would
have
been
other
materials
there.
Just
that
show
this
is
what's
needed
to
register,
and
if
that
toot
permit
was
submitted
to
our
site
over
here
in
the
vacation
rental
program,
we
then
yes
would
then
have
won.
If
it
was
just
the
permit
submitted,
we
would
have
denied
it.
It's
saying
it's
incomplete,
because
not
all
the
paperwork
is
there
as
well
of
maybe
hey,
there's
a
citation
on
this
property.
H
Now,
if
that
cot
permit,
was
sent
to
finance
and
was
returned,
I
can't
say
why
it
would
have
been
returned.
I
don't
know
if
there
would
have
been
a
note
attached
to
that
return.
If
that's
something
that
came
from
Finance,
so
it
depends
on
where
that
was
printed
from
and
sent
to
that's
what
I
would
believe
to
say
all.
N
Number
three
on
the
on
this
says:
submit
a
transient
occupy
occupancy
tax
tot
permit
application
for
new
application.
Only
if
you're
renewing
this
form
is
not
required.
This
is
specifically
requiring
a
tot.
It's
requiring
the
application.
Yes,
and
so,
when
we
send
in
the
application
it
was
returned.
A
A
A
You
by
Sir
Kane,
so
all
right,
I
appreciate
the
your
the
information
you're
providing
Vice
chair
Kane
is
absolutely
correct.
Whether
or
not
there
was
a
tot
permit
is
not
the
issue
here.
The
issue
here
is
that
it
was
an
unregistered
vacation
rental,
and
so
we
appreciate
your
testimony
and
at
this
point
we're
gonna
add
the
board
is
going
to
discuss
based
on
the
testimony
we
heard
both
from
the
appellant
and
the
city
and
I
would
like
to
start
with
Mr
Hedrick.
If
you
have
any
discussion
points.
C
F
A
Right
if
I'm
gonna
assume
he
has
nothing
to
add
it.
Yet
if
he
does,
I
will
come
back
to
him.
So
my
perspective
is
this:
you
know
that's.
We
all
can
appreciate
that
she
is
a
great
member
of
the
community
and
that's
not
a
dispute
here
anyway.
Everybody
I
appreciates
what
she
does
and
brings
to
the
community,
but
the
condo
rules
don't
supersede
the
city's
rules,
and
so,
from
my
perspective
you
know
there
was
a
while
the
condo
says
it
rents
for
14
days.
A
The
city
also
is
very
clear
that
this
that
it
doesn't
matter
if
the
person
actually
consummated
the
rental
agreement
that
advertising-
and
we
have
been
over
this
over
and
over
again-
that
from
the
city's
perspective,
the
way
they
wrote
the
ordinance
is
the
city
treats
advertising
as
operating.
So
the
fact
that
she
was
willing
to
accept
a
21-day
rental
without
a
permit
makes
this
pretty
clear
to
me
any
other
comments
from
the
board.
A
A
G
G
My
second
point
was
going
to
be
that
because
she
intends
to
honor
this
the
rule
anyway.
The
the
permanent
bar
of
using
of
having
a
vacation
rental
short-term
is
not
a
penalty
at
all.
In
effect,
so
the
only
penalty
is
the
five
thousand
dollars
the
city
will
be
I'm
sure
will
be
glad
to
work
out
an
easy
payment
schedule
with
her.
If,
if
that's
something
that's
important.
A
F
B
K
A
A
A
It
is
the
appeal
of
the
permanent
ineligibility
to
operate
a
vacation
rental
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
the
administrative
fine
of
five
thousand
dollars
for
operating
an
unregistered
vacation
rental
property
located
at
1910,
North
Alamos
Road
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
ensure
that
the
city
staff
and
the
appellant
understand
that
their
testimony
is
under
oath.
D
H
Good
evening,
thank
you,
chair
Vice,
chair
board,
member
City
staff
Helen
summer
call.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
the
Department
of
special
program,
compliance
where
we
oversee
the
vacation
rental
compliance
program
here
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
before
you
this
evening
is
a
staff
report
regarding
the
property
located
at
1910,
North,
Los
Alamos
Road.
Here
in
Palm
Springs,
it
has
found
that
the
property
located
at
1910,
North,
Los
Alamos
Road,
was
operating
as
a
vacation
rental
without
a
short-term
vacation
rental
certificates.
H
I
Sorry
about
that,
I
am
Dave
David
Williams
code,
compliance
officer
with
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
on
August
22nd
2021.
A
lead
was
received
through
the
department
of
special
program
compliance
voicemail
system
that
reported
a
listing
on
Airbnb.
That
was
not
in
compliance.
The
lead
also
included
the
advertisement
number
in
the
voicemail,
which
was
4952-8329
on
Airbnb,
and
that
is
located
on
page
23
of
your
packet.
I
The
advertisement
described
the
property
as
a
four
bedroom.
Three
bathroom
Hall.
At
that
time,
I
sent
a
booking
inquiry
to
the
property
host
span
at
10.
47
am
in
the
inquiry.
I
asked
span
if
the
home
was
available
for
the
dates
of
September
19th
to
September
26
2021
as
I
would
be
in
Palm
Springs
for
a
wedding
that
is
page
32
in
your
packet
at
10.
51
am
spam.
Spam
sorry
span
replied
good
morning.
Dave,
yes,
it
is
I
will
send
you
the
pre-approval.
Now
I
responded
shortly
thereafter
with
perfect.
I
I
will
book
it
as
soon
as
I
get
home
from
work
this
afternoon.
Looking
forward
to
the
visit,
do
you
think
the
pool
needs
to
be
heated
that
time
of
the
year?
And
if
so,
is
there
an
additional
charge?
Thanks
again,
Dave
a
spare
span
responded
Awesome
Possum,
and
that
depends
on
you
and
your
guests.
I
would
have
a
better
idea
closer
to
the
dates.
It
is
fifty
dollars
a
day
for
the
pooled
heat.
I
F
H
I,
yes
Chad,
you
have
one
thing:
maybe
it's
a
typo
on
my
staff
report,
not
sure
if
it's
included
in
a
staff
Report
with
you
I
stated
that
this
administrative
citation
was
issued.
July
29
2021,
that
is
incorrect.
The
citation
that's
included
in
your
packet
shows
that
the
citation
was
issued,
August
26
2021,
which
was
testified
by
Officer
Williams.
That's
how
I
was
able
to
catch
that
typo.
So
my
apologies,
but
the
let
my
statement
correct,
be
corrected
that
the
citation
was
issued.
August
26
2021,
not
July,
29th,.
A
B
Ready,
my
question
is:
the
home
was
owned
by
William
Joseph
spent
Jr,
but
your
citation
is
to
Wayne
Joseph
Spann
and
and
if
you
read
the
whole
packet,
there's
been
a
change
in
ownership
because
of
the
death
of
Junior,
so
was
Junior
the
owner
of
the
property.
At
the
time
at
this
citation
was
issued
or
was
senior
the
owner
of
the
property.
At
the
time
the
citation
was
issued.
I
I
H
I
believe,
if
I'm
reading
the
property
profile
right
that
was
printed
out
by
the
citation
it
looks
like
under
sale
and
loan
information,
so
it's
transfer
date
of
212
2019
seller
span,
Jr
William
Joseph
from
the
property
data
that
looks
like
current
owner
was
William,
Joseph,
City
doesn't
say
senior
just
says:
William
Joseph
Spann.
As
of
that
current
date,
from
what
I'm
reading
the
junior
was
under
the
seller
information,
if
I'm
reading
this
document
correctly.
Thank
you
thank.
H
Yeah,
just
from
the
property
profile
that
we
or
code
officers
use
to
identify
the
owner
of
the
property
on
that
document.
It
says
that
under
sell
and
loan
information,
there's
a
transfer
date
of
212
2019
with
a
seller
labeled
as
span
Junior,
William
Joseph,
which,
like
somehow
maybe
County
types
in,
must
be
William
Joseph,
Spann
Jr,
the
current
owner
on
this
property
profile
when
the
citation
was
issued
was
William,
Joseph,
Spann,
no
designation
of
a
junior
or
a
senior.
A
So,
if
there's
no
additional
questions
for
the
city
from
the
board,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
the
appeal
hearing,
the
appellant
is
invited
to
speak
for
up
to
10
minutes.
Any
member
of
the
public
who
desires
to
speak
on
this
appeal
hearing
shall
have
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak,
and
if
any
member
of
the
public
testifies,
the
Appellate
will
be
invited
to
provide
a
rebuttal
for
up
to
additional
two
minutes
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
begin
the
public
testimony
period.
E
L
E
Did
use
it
as
a
short-term
rental.
It
was
my
impression
that
he
applied
for
and
obtained
a
permit,
as
well
as
a
business
license.
He
was
murdered
in
April
of
this
year
at
that
point,
since
we
owned
the
property
under
joint
tenancy
rules.
It
reverted
to
me,
although
it
wasn't
recorded
as
my
property
until
the
end
of
July,
although
the
date
goes
back
to
his
date
of
death
and
the
recording.
E
E
A
F
F
C
A
B
A
And
thank
you,
and
actually
so,
based
on
by
share
Kane's
question
where
we
are
I
think
we
might
have
been
assuming
that
junior
was
the
son,
but
junior
is
actually
you
right.
Okay,
thank
you.
I,
don't
think
I
have
any
additional
questions
for
the
appellant.
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
city,
and
that
is
that,
if
this
had
this
property
had
a
permit.
When
did
that
permit
expire.
A
H
A
A
C
A
F
A
K
It's
unfortunate
the
situation
that
happened,
but
as
as
we
discussed
earlier,
our
position
is
to
evaluate
a
situation
and
make
a
decision
based
on
that,
and
so
unfortunately,
this
has
happened
more
times
than
you
know.
We
can
even
mention
and
would
just
have
to
go
off,
of
what
we're
instructors
do
and
that's
follow
the
guidelines
and
make
a
decision
and
I
feel
really
bad
that
we
have
to
make
decisions
this
way
based
on
the
circumstances,
but
our
hands
are
kind
of
tied
too.
K
A
A
Very
similar
to
this
with
with
very
tragic
and
you
know,
kind
of
horrible
circumstances,
but
you
know,
unfortunately,
the
place
was
being
rented
without
a
permit
and
and
that's
what's
before
us,
so
all
right
that
was
kind
of
all
I
had
as
well
we'll
close
that
board
discussion.
If
somebody
would
like
to
make
a
motion,
not
me.
F
A
Thank
you
again,
everyone
for
your
effort
on
this
to
the
Appellate
Mr
span.
Of
course,
we
you
have
our
condolences
and
sympathies
for
the
situation
that
you
are
in.
The
city
will
reach
out
to
you
with
official
notification
and
again,
while
you
said
you
I
think
you
said
you
had
family
New,
Year's
intent
to
have
family
living
in
that
house.
This
does
not
prevent
you
from
renting
it
on
a
monthly
which,
by
the
city's
definition,
would
be
a
long-term
basis
all
right.
Thank
you.
A
Everyone
for
your
time
and
effort
on
this
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
case,
which
is
number
six
and
the
agendas.
The
appeal
of
the
administrative
decision
of
a
two-year
suspension
of
the
vacation
rental
registration
certificate
for
the
property
located
at
22.67,
North,
Jarvis
Drive,
and
a
fine
in
the
amount
of
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
board
secretary.
Could
you
please
ensure
that
the
city
staff
and
the
appellant
understand
that
their
testimony
is
under
oath
sure.
D
H
Yes,
good
evening,
chair
Vice,
chair
board
members,
City
staff
Helens.
My
name
is
Patrick
Clifford
with
Department
special
program,
compliance
where
we
oversee
the
vacation
rental
program
on
with
your
staff
support
this
evening.
It's
regarding
the
property
located
at
2267,
North
Janus
drive
here
in
Palm
Springs
with
the
matter
it's
regarding
three
citations
obtained
within
a
12-month
period.
There
was
a
citation
issued
for
music
on
September
11
2021.
H
So
in
review
of
the
currencies
that
happened
at
the
pro
the
property
and
the
third
citation
have
turned
in
a
12-month
period.
We
then
issue
a
letter
of
suspension
for
the
property
with
an
effective
date
believe,
let's
say
effective
date
of
two
years,
starting
October,
11
2021
and
ending
October
11
2023..
H
P
P
So
it's
not
as
in-depth
before
we
go
out
and
respond
while
contacting
the
guests
at
the
property.
In
response
to
my
observations
related
to
the
active
nuisance
complaint
that
have
been
received,
the
occupants
stated
that
they
had
booked
the
property
for
a
short-term
stay
arriving
on
Thursday,
September,
9th
2021
and
departing
on
Sunday
September,
12
2021
via
the
booking
website
airbnb.com,
once
I
returned
to
the
office.
The
second
more
detailed
check
through
the
record-keeping
platform
was
performed
to
search
for
a
submitted
contract.
P
Summary
and
I
was
still
unable
to
locate
a
submitted
contract
summary
and
determined
that
there
was
no
contract
summary
on
file
for
that
current
guest
day
and
as
noted
from
Patrick
there,
there
were
some
contract
summaries
submitted
that
were
after
the
fact,
but
going
back
for
the
entire
calendar
year.
They,
this
particular
property,
had
no
contract
summary
submitted
at
all.
P
As
a
result
of
this,
the
property
was
issued:
a
citation
ab0351
for
a
violation
of
Municipal
codes,
525070h
for
a
failure
to
submit
a
contract
summary
prior
to
guest
occupancy
and
that
was
issued
to
the
property
owner
Steve
Brown.
So
that
will
conclude
what
I
have
to
present
but
I'm
available
for
any
questions
that
the
board
may
have.
H
H
A
C
H
That's
correct,
you
know
when
this
situation
the
events
unfolded
in
one
day,
the
First
music
ticket,
the
second
music
ticket
and
then
the
third
one.
Coming
from
the
code
officer
after
officer
napan
in
our
office
verified,
there
were
no
contract
summaries
on
file.
That
third
ticket
then
generated
suspension.
H
P
So
yeah,
just
to
briefly
touch
I,
was
actually
I
was
present
for
both
citations.
So
I
was
the
primary
on-call
enforcement
officer
for
the
for
the
original
for
the
for
the
first
citation
that
was
issued
for
music
and
then
officer
Wade
was
the
primary
enforcement
official
for
the
second
citation,
our
return,
which
ended
up
being
about
two
two
hours
after
we
were
there
previously,
and
he
had
issued
that
additional
Citation
for
music
so
related
to
the
complaint
for
music.
P
We
received
a
call
into
the
police,
non-emergency
dispatch
line
about
a
loud
party
and
that
call
was
received
at
4
42
in
the
afternoon
on
Saturday
September,
11th
I
was
dispatched
on
the
call,
if
just
after
5
PM
at
504
as
I
believe
this
is
included
in
the
report.
I
made
my
observation
from
the
street
in
front
of
the
property.
With
this
property
in
particular,
it
has
a
front
yard
pool
area.
P
P
I
think
there
was
some
misinterpretation
on
their
part
as
to
what
they
believed
the
rules
were
for
music.
They
were
under
the
impression
that,
as
long
as
it
was
kept
within
a
certain
decibel
limit
that
they
would
be
okay,
we
did
take
decibel
readings
and,
and
those
readings
aren't
included
in
the
sap
report.
P
P
So
after
we
left
the
property,
I
called
the
property
management
company
and
Advising
the
complaint
that
we
had
received.
What
my
observations
were
and
I
also
requested.
The
information
on
file
for
the
responsible
guest
I
also
recommended
that
they
follow
up
with
their
guests
as
well
to
ensure
that
they
were
aware
of
what
the
rules
were,
so
that
you
know
there
wasn't
a
second
occurrence
of
of
any
nuisance
violations.
P
You
know
related
to
the
second
call
by
the
time
I
got
there.
I
was
I
was
actually
on
another
call
at
a
different
property
wrapping
up.
So
when
officer
Wade
got
there,
he
did
get
there
by
himself.
I
arrived
about
15
minutes
after
and
by
that
point
he
had
already
made
his
observation,
and
from
from
what
was
described
to
me,
was
that
there
was
music
playing.
It
was
playing
from
inside
the
property,
but
it
was
still
audible
at
the
property
line.
P
So
at
that
point
he
did
Issue
the
citation
which
was
the
second
Citation
for
for
music
Amplified
beyond
the
property
line.
At
the
point
that
I
arrived,
the
guests
were
already
speaking
with
him
and
the
citation
was
being
issued
and
we
also
had
some
cousins
by
our
Partners,
the
Palm
Springs
Police
Department,
to
assist
Dustin
as
there
was
there
some
uncooperation
by
the
guests
at
that
point
as
well.
P
So
that's
just
a
background
on
on
kind
of
the
lead
up
to
the
third
citation
which
is
ended
up
being,
as
Patrick
mentioned.
We
we
do
a
more
in-depth
look
into
whether
contract
summary
was
submitted,
and
then
Patrick
also
verifies
that
when
he
comes
back
into
the
office
before
the
citation
is
actually
verified
and
sent
out,
and
so
that's
kind
of
like
the
sequence
of
of
events
of
this,
you
know
bad
weekend
for
this
house.
P
B
A
Just
a
couple
of
questions
so
I
think
you'd
answer.
My
first
question
was
going
to
be
because
in
the
information
we
received,
the
appellant
was
saying
that
they
were
clearly
in
the
house
when
the
second
citation
was
issued.
But
what
you're
saying
is
the
music
was
coming
from
inside
the
house,
and
that
is
still
when
we
understand
that's
still
a
violation.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
A
A
At
this
point,
I'd
like
to
open
the
appeal
hearing,
the
appellant
will
be
invited
to
speak
for
up
to
10
minutes.
Any
member
of
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak
on
this
appeal
hearing
shall
have
up
to
three
minutes
to
speak.
If
any
member
of
the
public
testifies,
the
appellant
will
be
invited
to
speak
for
an
additional
two
minutes
as
a
rebuttal
board
secretary.
Can
you
please
begin
the
public
testimony
period.
O
Yeah,
thank
you
guys,
all
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
go
over.
This
I
also
forwarded
the
noise
aware
report,
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
all
got
that
yeah,
so
I
mean
we
take
this
up
very
seriously
as
far
as
noise,
everything
dealing
with
the
guests
informing
them
about
this.
We
I
was
notified
by
the
by
the
gentleman
at
the
5
p.m.
O
Time
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
meter
is
pretty
low
and
unless
I
understand,
okay,
they're
outside
and
even
though
they've
been
notified,
not
you
know
not
to
play
music
outside,
but
I'd
like
to
see
kind
of
what
their
meter
was
at,
because
I
mean
it's
very
low
and
you
know
I
reached
out
to
the
guest
immediately
after
that
I
spoke
with
them.
They
shut
it
down
later
in
the
night
they
had
some
music
playing
inside.
Once
again,
you
can
see
the
meter.
O
The
red
line
for
outdoor
was
basically
non-existent,
so
I
mean
this.
That
was
never
had
any
trouble.
You
know,
like
I,
said
we're
very
strict
at
all
this
stuff.
You
know
we
have
a
lot
of
homes
in
the
in
the
desert
and
we
understand
you
know
the
details
of
this.
So
so
that's
that
I
mean
the
owners
spend
a
lot
of
money.
Getting
the
house
ready
takes
two
months
to
get
a
permit
with
you
guys
and
then
in
one
day
you
know
two
very
low
volume
events
preclude
this.
O
A
O
O
It
just
goes
into
like
space,
so
I
mean
I
would
recommend
that
you
guys
have
some
sort
of
system
where
you
can
see
what's
been
entered
because
she
claims
it
was
checked
off
and
entered,
and
so
I
don't
know
it
seems
like
you
guys
could
have
the
or
the
city
could
have
a
better
system.
As
far
as
that,
submitting
the
the
rental
agreements
and
stuff.
A
G
O
C
A
B
O
Yeah
and
even
the
level
on
the
first
one
seems
low,
I
mean
I,
understand
the
the
concept
of
I
can
hear
it
on
the
at
the
property
line.
So
I
mean
I,
don't
know
the
level
I
mean
all
I
can
go
by
is
what
our
meter
is
picking
up.
So
I
I,
don't
know
like
I
said:
we've
never
had
any
trouble
at
that
house,
you
know
and
everything
so
it
it's
it
it's
strange.
But
yes.
B
O
O
It
wasn't
crazy,
but
I
could
see
if
there
was
a
level
and
there
was
basically
nothing
outside
you
know
so
I
spoke
with
them
and
they
shut
it
down,
and
you
know
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
if
it's
you
know
not
a
to
me,
not
a
valid
thing,
I'm
not
going
to
evict
someone
for
for
for
for
that.
You
know
we
do
take
it
seriously
and
if
there
was
I
mean
if
they
called
me
and
said
they're
outside
again
cranking,
the
music
and
partying
it
up.
O
I
would
have
been
over
there
and
our
guys
would
have
would
have
booted
them
instantly.
That
wasn't
the
case.
They
told
them,
take
it
inside.
They
took
it
inside
and
if
you
can
see
on
the
meter,
it's
it's
on
the
inside.
Not
the
outside
and
so
I
didn't
feel
the
need
to
you
know
evict
them
when
they
followed
the
rules
that
the
the
gentleman
was
there
Pro
previously
told
them.
A
F
O
O
O
We
we
have,
you
know
our
contract
States,
you
know
all
the
rules
of
the
city
as
well
as
we
have
them
sign
a
thing
saying
that
you
know
they
understand:
there's
no
music
outside
after
possible
Rings,
we
email
them
the
Good
Neighbor
policy.
They
have
to
sign
off
that.
They
understand
that
to
the
to
the
to
the
guest.
O
We
do
a
concierge
arrival
out
there,
so
the
one
of
our
concierge
from
our
field
guys
meets
the
guests
and
reiterates
things
to
them
and
there's
signs
I
mean
there's
a
plaque
city
right
inside
the
door
and
saying
there's
no
outside
music.
You
know
we
have
the
noise
monitors
there,
so
we're
alerted
instantly.
Obviously
this
one,
you
know,
didn't
hit
the
threshold,
so
we
weren't,
but
you
know
we're
no.
We
have
a
low
threshold
and
you
know
we're
right
on
top
of
that
stuff.
So,
anytime,
these
things
go
off.
O
I,
don't
have
to
look
and
see
how
many
we
had
prior
to
this,
so
I'm
surprised
there
were
none
in
there,
but
the
reservation
team
marks
off
that
they've
entered
it
and,
like
I
said
it
goes
into
their
system,
which
is
kind
of
an
Antiquated
thing
to
start
with,
but
there's
no
way
to
view
okay,
I've
entered
that
contract
or
not.
So
what?
F
B
H
P
And
I
just
kind
of
second
that
point
of
clarity
too
oftentimes
when
we're
discussing
it's
easy
to
say
it's
a
noise
complaint
and
just
to
be
clear.
The
citations
that
were
issued
were
not
violations
of
the
noise
ordinance.
There
are
violations
of
the
section
of
vacation
rental
ordinance,
which
states
no
music
shall
be
audible
at
the
property
line.
So
it's
you
know
it's
the
same
thing
when
we're
debating
level
of
sound.
What
what
was
the
measure
decibel
level?
P
It
wasn't
a
violation
of
the
noise
ordinance
which
would
relate
to
that
it
was
basically
was
there,
music
audible,
the
property
line,
which
we
have
practices
in
place
to
to
to
kind
of
verify
that
it's
not
we're
not
hearing
things,
we
record
them.
We
identify
the
songs
via
third-party
apps,
those
sort
of
things.
So
it's
just
that
point
in
Clarity
of
it's
not
a
violation
of
noise.
It's
a
violation
of
the
ordinance,
the
case
rental
ordinance,
which
is
specific
to
music
audible
with
the
property
line.
A
P
H
I
could
just
say
that
looks
by
the
officer
notes
for
that
report.
It
was
base
that
was
heard
at
the
property
line,
not
anything
really
relevant
to
an
audible
like
music
or
song.
It
was
bass
that
he
observed
from
the
property
of
line
which
could
based
off
what
the
decimal
limits
I
see.
That
reported
on
his
report
might
be
the
reason
why
it's
low
the
decibel
readers
are
rated
to
to
measure
an
a
I
believe
it
is
DBA.
We're
usually
base
monitors.
H
If
we're
looking
at
the
decibel
limits
that
could
be
possible.
Why?
But
I'm
not
an
odd
decibel
limit
expert
I
do
want
to
kind
of.
We
talked
about
the
appeals.
I
looked
up,
the
citations
that
were
issued
for
music
to
the
apparents
they
were
paid
for,
but
there's
no
appeal
requests
on
file
with
our
citation
vendor,
so
I
just
want
to
show
that
that
we
have
not
received
an
appeal
for
approval
just
that
the
citations
were
paid
but
yeah.
That's
if.
A
F
B
B
H
So,
with
repeal
with
regards
to
appealing
those
citations,
that
appeal
is
going
to
be
generated
from
the
appellant
to
our
vendor
data
tickets,
the
appeal
that
comes
to
the
board,
with
the
aab
would
be
regarding
the
third
citation
and
the
suspension
of
the
two-year
certificate
of
the
vacation
rental
certificate.
So
the
the
timing
of
this
is
unique
too,
because
we
could
have
I
guess
you
could
say
we
would
have
received
appeals
for
the
two
tickets
for
music
and
then
we
would
have
been
processing.
H
H
O
H
The
the
there's
two
appeal
processes
with
the
citations
in
the
city,
the
appeals
for
those
tickets,
would
be
you
had
to
appeal
them,
and
then
you
submit
an
appeal
request
to
our
vendor
and
our
vendor
would
then
process
the
appeal
hearing
and
set
up
a
date
via
Zoom
or
phone
hearing.
As
such
like
this,
when
we
issue
a
suspension
letter,
it
states
that
any
appeal
of
the
third
citation
would
be
here
with
administrative
appeals
board
with
the
company
of
that
payment
of
802.
So.
O
H
H
Correct
homeowners
suffering
their
consequences
regarding
a
third
citation
issued,
yes
and
then
the
the
the
suspension
that
comes
with
that
and
since
the
third
citation
is
what
triggers
the
suspension.
We
then
allow
the
appeal
of
the
third
ticket
and
the
suspension
to
be
heard
by
the
AAP,
but
you're
right
I
mean
the
owner
is
feeling
the
ramifications
of
the
two
citations
that
occurred
on
the
same
day
from
those
guests,
but
then,
when
they
get
their
chance
to
appeal.
Unfortunately,
how
our
regulations
are
written.
O
F
O
B
A
O
The
appeal
thing
we
got
is
very,
it
was
very
unclear.
Obviously,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
what
was
written
on
the
appeal
you
can
it's
obvious
what
we're
appealing.
So
there
was
no,
no
one
stated:
oh
you
you're
not
appealing
this
noise
violation,
even
though
that's
what
you
wrote
on
the
on
the
appeal
so.
F
A
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
move
on
the
fact
that
somebody
wrote
on
the
appeal
that
you
want
to
appeal
a
specific
one:
doesn't
change
the
fact
that
there
were
three
citations,
so
I
think
all
three
citations
were
listed
on
there
as
well.
That's
I
understand
that
and
I
think
we
all
understand
that,
but
that
doesn't
change
the
fact
that
there
were
three
citations.
A
J
F
K
G
C
C
D
F
A
K
A
K
K
F
A
G
A
All
right,
let's
move
on
the
next
item
on
the
agenda,
is
board
member
comments
and
requests.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
set
aside
for
General
comments,
announcements,
requests
of
staff
and
then
or
any
other
issues
of
concern
from
members
of
the
administrative
appeals
board
and
I
actually
have
one
thing.
I
would
like
to
say
to
everybody
on
the
board
we
a
few
months
ago,
we
had
a
case
that
was
a
neighbor
of
mine
and
they
had
three
citations
and
I'm.
Sorry,
they
did
not
have
three
citations.
G
C
K
K
A
So
we'll
get
some
clarification
next
time
and
then
we'll
render
a
vote.
Okay,
anybody
anything
else
from
City
from
the
board.
Okay,
next
item
on
the
agendas
time
set
aside
for
the
City
attorney
to
update
the
board
on
any
important
matters
initiated
by
the
staff
or
previously
requested
by
the
board,
lawsuit.
C
G
J
Yeah
it
you
know,
I,
wasn't
involved
in
the
case.
I
know
that
the
plaintiffs
were
challenging
the
ordinance
saying
that
it
violated
the
zoning
ordinance,
and
so
it
was
determined
that
you
know,
even
if
it
did
violate
the
zoning
ordinance
to
that
necessarily
invalidate
the
ordinance,
probably
not,
and
then
it
was
also
determined
that
there
wasn't
violation
of
the
of
the
zoning
ordinance.
A
Q
It
is
legal
and
the
zoning
arguments
really
had
very,
very
little
Merit
and
there
is
no
Avenues
left
for
them
to
appeal
to.
They
did
not
file
to
the
Supreme
Court
of
California,
the
California
Supreme
Court
within
10
days
they
had
and
they
didn't
do
it.
So
we
do
not
have
the
final
ruling
saying
case
closed,
but
that
will
come
as
soon
as
the
Appellate
Court
Clerk
can
handle.
That.
Q
Q
It's
sorry,
it's
a
corporation
of
you
know,
filed
as
a
California,
Corporation,
okay
and
the
original
officers,
and
proponents
who
launched
this
whole
thing
after
measure
C
they
sold
their
houses
and
they
moved
and
then
no
longer
our
residents
of
Palm
Springs,
and
so
there
are
three
other
names
listed
on
the
statement
of
information
of
the
corporation
and
really
honestly,
I,
don't
know
who
they
are.
Okay,
thank.
G
Q
Q
You
know
somebody
complains
about
this
and
they
direct
the
city
manager
to
do
that
and
we've
changed
city
managers
and
the
city
manager
now
is
looking
for
a
a
better
list
of
priorities
on
what
the
council,
the
city
manager
and
the
staff
should
be
doing
in
a
given
year.
Okay-
and
it
was
called
a
strategic
visioning
plan,
and
they
had
two
eight-hour
meetings
in
private
going
through
this,
and
they
have
now
released
that
and
it's
coming
up
on
the
agenda
again
so
to
answer
your
question.
Q
Q
What
happens
if
you
get
two
music
citations
and
a
lack
of
contracts
in
one
weekend?
How
does
this
work,
okay
and
so
I?
Take
copious
notes
in
a
file
with
potential
ordinance
changes
and
I've
recorded
these
tonight.
From
you
know
your
questions,
which
were
really
good
questions.
You
know
I
mean
it's
important
that
you
be
given
a
road
map
on
what
to
do
even
with
these
extreme
edge
cases.
What
happens
you
get
three
citations
in
a
weekend?
Q
Okay,
that
was
not
addressed
in
our
original
ordinance
and
I'm,
not
saying
it's
legal
or
illegal.
That's
for
Jill
to
interpret,
but
I
think
we
could
provide
you
with
better
clarity.
If
we
get
a
chance
to
think
this
through-
and
you
know
direct
you
into
you
know
things
the
ordinance
doesn't
cover.
Does
that
make
sense,
Jocelyn,
yeah,
yeah.
C
F
C
Q
We've
had
to
deal
with
sad
situations
of
people,
you
know
having
houses
and
we're
not
aware
of
our
ordinances,
and
so
together
with
Patrick
Clifford
and
with
Veronica
goodheart.
We
have
really
crafted
a
very
strong
worded
warning
postcard
that
will
be
sent
to
the
tax
address
of
every
person
who
owns
a
home
in
Palm
Springs,
and
you
can't
miss
it.
I
mean
warning,
you
can't
rest
rent
less
than
28
days
or
less
okay,
not
in
legalese
very
plain
English,
because
we
want
to
avoid
you're
having
to
deal
with
people.