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A
Good
evening,
so
I
welcome
everyone:
it's
5
34
p.m,
and
I'm
calling
the
february
1
2022
meeting
of
the
historic
site
preservation
board
to
order.
May
we
please
have
a
roll
call.
B
Yes,
good
evening,
everyone
is
member
rose
here
tonight.
C
B
C
D
B
Remember
roosevelt
member
kaiser
here
vice
chair
nelson.
E
B
A
C
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
by
member
miller
and
a
second
by
member
rose.
A
A
B
We
haven't
gotten
any
specific
requests
to
speak,
but
I
see
we
have
many
members
of
the
public
here
who
have
joined
us,
and
so,
if
anybody
wishes
to
speak
on
the
items,
3a
or
4b
on
your
agenda
now
would
be
the
appropriate
time
to
do
so.
H
You
I
appreciate
you
all
for
having
this
meeting
here
regarding
historic
site
preservation.
I'm
speaking
regards
to
the
the
statue
of
frank
bogart
statue,
which
is
located
on
the
property
of
the
city
of
palm
springs
city
hall.
H
I
did
read
over
the
paperwork
and
noticed
that,
yes,
this
statue
is
not
a
part
of
the
historic
part
of
the
city
hall
and
appreciate
that
that's
being
stated
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
will
still
be
moving
forward
with
the
statue
being
removed.
I
appreciate
the
time
to
talk
and
that's
it.
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you
very
much
sorry
about
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
palm
springs
section
14
survivors,
and
I
am
definitely
speaking
I
just
want
to
to
to
bring
up
one
point.
H
I
I
want
to
keep
in
consideration
that
if
something
or
someone
did
something
that
harmed
you,
your
your
family
and
your
home,
would
you
support
viewing
that
statue
in
front
of
your
place
where
you
paid
rent
or
had
any
kind
of
contribution
made
toward
that,
and
so
I'm
here
in
opposition
of
against
the
statue,
and
I
just
wanted
to
speak
that,
on
behalf
of
the
palm
springs
section
14
advisory
group.
Thank
you.
G
Good
evening
you
might
want
to
explain
to
people
before
I
start.
How
do
you
raise
your
hand,
because
every
computer
screen
is
a
little
bit
differently
and
there
are
people
that
probably
want
to
talk
and
they're,
not
sure,
but
but
with
that
I
good
evening
and
my
computer,
wherever.
G
My
printer
broke,
so
I
have
to
use
my
my
laptop
to
get
to
my
my
my
notes
good
evening.
I
practice
environmental
planning
and
historic
preservation
for
34
years
in
both
palm
springs
and
laquinta.
G
G
Arg
did
not
ignore
the
statute
and
the
artist
completely
arg
made
a
very
strong
statement
in
finding
that
there
has
been
no
evaluation
of
the
historic
merits
of
the
statue
or
the
creator
of
the
statue
as
of
january
of
this
year.
The
report
did
not
address
any
of
the
historic
aspects
of
the
statue.
The
artist
or
the
man
who
is
subject
of
the
statue.
G
Your
historic
preservation
ordinance
has
a
wide
range
of
resources
that
are
considered
potentially
historic,
cultural,
social,
political
and
architectural
city
hall
is
more
than
just
a
building.
It
is
the
people
that
conducted
public
business.
They
also
have
a
standing
in
palm
springs.
History,
there's
a
separate
provision
of
the
ordinance
for
the
art.
G
G
G
You
know.
Clearly,
the
removal
of
a
significant
resource
from
a
historic
site
does
not
meet
the
definition
of
the
exemptions.
Removal
is
removal.
Such
a
determination
must
be
supported
by
substantial
evidence
in
the
record.
Please
do
not
rubber
stamp
a
political
decision
that
affects
a
class
one
historic
site.
G
We
ask
that
you
deny
the
certificate
of
appropriates
or
continue
the
item
again
and
ask
for
a
complete
historic
site
assessment
and
assess
that
addresses
the
city
hall
site,
the
statue
and
the
artist
who
created
it.
Thank
you
very
much
you're
in
a
very
awkward
position,
as
is
the
community
regarding
this
issue,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
hard
work
and
thank
you
very
much.
H
Yes,
hi,
my
name
is
alvin
taylor
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
section
14
survivors,
I'm
a
member
of
that
group
and
support
the
opposition.
That's
that's
against
the
statue.
H
I
support
the
removal
of
the
statue
and
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
concepts
and
ideas
about
where
it's
going
to
be
moved
or
whether
it's
just
going
to
be
abolished
all
together.
H
But
the
fact
is
is
that
I'm
totally
against
it
because
I'll
never
forget
the
extremely
traumatic
cowardice
act
of
our
families
being
herded
like
cattle
and
treated
like
animals,
as
we
were
extracted
from
our
place
of
residency
on
the
section
14,
with
no
place
to
go
and
no
relocation
fees
to
get
to
where
we're
going
and
to
look
at
a
statue
with
a
man
who
had
a
lot
to
do
with
the
that
happening.
It's
just
it's.
H
It
makes
me
cry
every
time
I
pass
by
and
see
it
there,
so
I
hope
that
we
will
get
moving
and
do
something
about
it,
and
I
I
also
would
hope
that
you
would.
You
would
check
with
the
various
different
people
that
are
opposing
that
we
would
figure
out
together
where
it's
going
to
go
if
it's
going
to
be
abolished
all
of
all
together
or
put
in
a
museum,
but
we'd
like
to
have
say
so
on
what
what's
actually
going
to
happen
with
it.
Thank
you
very
much
for
letting
me
share.
G
H
Please,
yes,
I'm
part
of
the
section
14
group
that
has
been
opposed
to
the
statue
being
staying
located,
where
it
is
now.
H
I'm
part
of
the
families
that
were
in
section
14
during
the
time
of
the
when
we
were
asked
to
well,
we
won't
really
ask
we
were
forced
to
move
from
the
area.
My
family
was
had
came
to
palm
springs
in
the
mid
40s
and
they
were
part
of
a
large
group
of
of
people
that
were
staying
there,
that
that
built
homes
there
and
they
were
part
of
the
part
of
palm
springs.
H
So
we
thought,
but
then,
when
we
were
asked
to
be
removed
or
forced
to
be
removed
from
that
area
by
the
city
councils
or
whoever
was
in
charge
at
the
time,
and
I
just
opposed
the
the
statue
being
there
and
I
would
in
favor
of
having
it
removed
or
changed
or
or
put
it
in
a
different
location.
H
Again,
I
don't
live
in
palm
springs.
Now
I
live
in
moreno
valley,
but
my
family
has
been
a
part
of
this
movement
and
I
would
like
to
have
some
say,
and
hopefully
others
in
the
group
would
speak
up
and.
H
H
I
don't
know
why
we
would
be
rewarding
someone
with
a
statue
that
was
in
charge
of
such
a
horrific
act
anyway.
I
don't
see
the
big
deal
in
it
and,
and
that
was
in
charge
of
the
holocaust
at
that
time.
So
I
definitely
and
I
was
born
there.
My
mother
had
five
children
on
reservation,
so
I'm
a
long
resident
of
palm
springs
and
I
do
a
pose
of
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
C
H
Springs
div,
and
I
just
wanted
to-
I
am
a
part
of
the
section
14
survivors
group
co-founder
and
also
a
member
of
desert
highland
gateway,
wellness
committee,
and
I
just
want
to
support
the
section
14
survivors
group
in
the
removal
of
the
statue
of
frank
voger,
and
I
just
want
to
support
the
cause
to
take
this
statue
down
period.
C
G
A
A
Okay,
I
have
a
motion
by
mr
rosa
now
and
a
second
by
mr
kaiser.
Is
there
any
discussion
seeing
none?
I
will
call
for
the
question
all
in
favor
of
the
motion.
Please
say
I
I
and
any
opposed.
A
B
B
That
report
has
been
created
and
it
was
provided
to
you
earlier
with
the
packet
that
you
all
received.
The
report
was
produced
and
dated
january
20th
and
was
done
by
the
firm
arg.
B
The
report
is
summarized
it's
attached
to
your
staff
report
is
by
the
way,
but
it
is
summarized
as
we
go
through
the
various
findings
and
analysis
on
the
project
from
the
arg
historic
resources
report.
On
page
two,
there
are
a
few
items
that
we
had
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting
which,
through
their
research,
has
been
further
clarified.
Among
those
is
the
period
of
significance
for
the
building.
B
those
two
portions,
the
original
and
that
addition
are
recognized
as
the
historically
significant
parts
of
the
city
hall
complex
and
the
other
parts
which
are
were
built
in
75
and
in
the
80s,
were
done
in
more
of
a
contemporary
style
architecture
and
did
not
reflect
the
original
architectural
significance,
which
was
credited
to
the
collaborative
firm,
a
collaboration
of
architectural
firms,
but
primarily
is
credited
to
the
architect
albert
frey.
B
The
report
notes
on
page
13
of
of
the
arg
report
that
the
there
was
a
flagpole
that
was
originally
in
this
center
circle
at
the
entrance,
the
main
entrance
to
city
hall,
which
had
been
relocated
approximately
around
the
time
that
the
statue
was
put
on
the
site,
and
so
it
was
recognized
as
noted
there,
that
those
two
pieces
are
not
part
of
the
period
of
significance
and
therefore
are
not
within
that
area
of
the
original
building
scope.
B
On
page,
three
of
your
staff
report
are
the
defining
characteristics,
the
site
and
the
building
you
can
go
through
those.
There
are
quite
a
long
bullet
point
listed
of
them,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
them.
I
will
just
speak
to
the
item
on
the
top
of
page
3
about
the
site,
which
says
that
the
general
open
configuration
and
layout
of
the
landscape
and
the
hardscape
of
the
building
is
significant,
but
it
excludes
the
plant
material,
the
flagpole
and
the
bogut
statue.
B
A
rough
chronology
of
the
overall
major
actions
and
approvals
are
listed
on
the
bottom
of
page
three
in
the
top
page
four
and
on
page
four
begins
the
analysis
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
before
I
go
in
and
briefly
briefly
summarize,
these
remember
what
we
are
looking
at
here
is
the
historic
resource
which
is
city
hall
and
through
the
resources
report,
you
learned
that
the
city
hall
has
primarily
been
identified
as
being
historically
significant
because
of
its
architecture,
its
architect,
who
was
working
with
it,
and
so
the
question
before
you,
which
is
quite
narrow
in
its
scope,
is
to
say
by
removing
this
statue.
B
Does
the
historic
significance
of
the
building
in
terms
of
those
things
for
which
it
is
identified
as
being
historic?
Are
they
materially
impaired
so
much
so
that
the
historic
significance
of
the
building
those
parts
of
the
building
in
the
site
which
contribute
to
its
historic
significance
would
be
damaged
or
removed?
B
And
in
our
review
of
the
findings,
which
again
are
on
pages
four
and
five
of
your
staff
report?
We
believe
that
it
does
not
impair
the
historic
significance
of
the
building.
The
bogert
statue
is
something
that
was
placed
on
the
city
hall
site
well,
after
its
period
of
significance,
which
again
was
1956
to
1965,
and
the
statue
was
placed
on
the
site
roughly
in
the
late
80s
early
90s.
B
So
the
the
thing
that
we're
looking
at
is
not
to
question
the
value
of
the
statue,
the
significance
of
mr
bogart,
whether
it
has
artistic
provenance
of
its
own.
But
rather,
what
happens
when
you
take
this
object
off
this
site
in
terms
of
the
historic
site
which
is
the
building
we've,
not
analyzed
the
the
criteria
of
the
statue,
because
the
statue's
historic
significance
is
not
in
question
here.
The
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
you
are
considering
is
only
to
determine
whether
removal
of
this
object.
B
B
So,
as
the
board
looks
at
this,
those
are
the
questions
in
the
the
focus
of
this
particular
question
before
you
on
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
is,
is
it
impacting
city
hall?
Not
does
the
statue
have
merit?
The
only
question
here
that
we're
needing
to
try
to
struggle
with
is:
does
the
removal
of
this
object
materially
impair
the
historic
significance
of
city
hall?
B
Okay,
so
we
again
are
recommending
in
the
staff
report
that
removal
of
the
statue
does
not
materially
impair
the
character,
defining
features
or
the
historic
significance
of
city
hall,
which
is
basically
founded
around
the
architecture
and
the
architect
and
its
reflection
of
the
period
of
significance
of
the
post-world
war
ii
period
in
palm
springs
when
modernist
architecture
was
embraced
on
all
types
of
building
types.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
lyon,
for
that
very
thorough
report.
Now
it's
time
for
the
board
to
make
comments
or
ask
questions
for
staff
and
I'd
like
to
be
begin
with
a
statement.
A
It
really
limits
our
review
of
what
may
be
historic
and
in
the
historic
resources
report
on
page
1,
section
1.1
arg
states
that
they
did
not
evaluate
the
sculpture
under
any
historic
criteria
at
all,
but
that
is
what
we
requested
at
our
november.
2Nd
2021
board,
meeting,
amen.
History
of
a
city
is
not
about
architecture.
A
I
I
really
understand
that
the
cowboy
bronze
does
not
go
with
the
modern
architecture
of
city
hall.
So
why
can't?
We
all
agree
to
relocate
it,
along
with
the
rocks
to
the
village
green,
where
it
can
be
re-interpreted
within
a
historical
context,
tell
the
history
that
has
occurred
in
our
city
at
the
village
green.
A
C
Yeah,
I
agree
with
catherine's
statement.
I
I
think
that
we
asked
for
we
asked
for
a
report
and
it
was
completely
lacking
in
what
we
asked
for.
I
I'm
I
I
don't
think
there's
to
not
deal
with
the
statute
it
is
is,
has
it
very
limited,
they've
narrowed
the
issues,
it's
not
a
historic
resource
report
that
we
asked
for,
and
I
would
like
either
to
have
it
redone
or
or
not,
weigh
in
I
mean
the
arts
commission
decided
not
to
weigh
in
on
this
and
again.
B
The
question
before
the
board
and
the
responsibility
of
this
board
is
to
consider
certificates
of
appropriateness
for
the
alterations
of
class,
1
and
class
2
historic
sites.
That
is
what
you're
tasked
with
it
is
not
the
task
of
the
arts
commission
to
do
that
is
the
hspb
and
we
are
not
studying
or
analyzing
or
considering
recommending
a
historic
designation
for
the
statute
that
could
occur
if
somebody
wanted
to
submit
an
application
seeking
to
have
it
designated
as
its
own
historic
object.
But
that's
not
the
question
before
you.
B
The
question
before
you
is:
does
removal
of
this
object
from
the
city
hall
site
materially
impair
the
historic
resource
which
is
city
hall,
not
the
historic
resource,
which
is
the
statue?
The
statue
is
not
the
question
about
its
historic
merit.
It's
the
question
about
city
hall
and
whether
removal
of
this
object
impairs
that
historic
significance.
C
C
E
I
have
to
concur
with
the
comments
that
are
being
made
so
far
by
our
fellow
board
members
and
just
to
say
that
this
arg
report
feels
one
dimensional
to
me
with
so
much
focus
on
the
building
in
the
architecture
rather
than
the
site,
and
it's
worth
noting
that
in
section
2,
where
they
talk
about
the
administrative
background,
they
say
that
the
1996
designation
of
city
hall
of
the
classroom
site
did
not
identify
character,
defining
features
or
elements
that
contribute
to
the
550
significance.
E
E
Of
course
I
would
feel
that
it
is
a
feature
and
by
that
nature
it
is
almost
in
my
opinion.
It
seems
almost
as
if
it
would
be
a
craftsmanship
dark
site
within
a
class
one
historic
site.
B
B
B
So,
yes,
there
are
many
objects.
There
are
many
things
on
the
site,
but
the
question
before
you
is:
do
all
of
those
things
on
the
site,
whether
they're
trees,
sculptures
other
things
contribute
to
its
historic
significance.
That's
really
the
question
is:
does
the
statue
contribute
to
the
historic
significance
of
the
building
and
the
report
suggests
that
it
does
not,
and
the
earlier
information
from
the
earlier
designations
makes
no
mention
of
the
statute.
E
Thank
you,
mr
lyon.
I
understand
all
that
and
I
appreciate
your
clarification.
A
further
concern
for
me
is
that
this
report
has
been
done
after
the
class
1
destination.
E
the
exact
thing
that
you're
trying
to
between
the
staff
report
and
the
historic
resources
report
trying
to
create
what
their
character
defining
features
are
after
the
fact
of
the
designation
and
that's
what
I
have
an
issue
with
I
it's
just
it's
confusing
to
me,
because
we've
never
had
a
situation
like
this.
B
As
you
know,
it
was
only
with
the
amendments
to
the
historic
preservation
ordinance
in
2019
and
2020,
where
the
requirement
for
character
defining
features
in
the
resolution
was
added.
So
we
have
a
history
in
many
of
our
designations
that
have
no
information
about
character,
defining
features
or
contributing
features.
That
was
what
I
understood
was
the
material
that
you
were
seeking
is
to
understand
more
clearly
what
are
the
character,
defining
features
of
the
site.
E
Great
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
that.
I
would
like
to
just
further
say
that
you
know
I
am
a
little
disappointed
that
there
wasn't
more
information
in
the
report
about
the
actual
statue
like
we
asked
for
that's
unfortunate,
and
the
fifth
issue
has
really
become
no
longer
about
history,
but
about
politics,
and
it's
quite
unfortunate.
E
Furthermore,
the
city
hall
site
has
been
there
for
you
know,
65
years,
and
that
statue
has
been
there
for
half
that
time.
E
City
hall
is
an
ongoing
historic
and
cultural
resource,
and
I
realized
the
building.
Significance
is
a
certain
period
of
those
10
years
or
so
when
albert
grey
was
most
involved,
and
I
get
that.
I
appreciate
that
very
much,
but
my
feeling
is
that,
because
of
the
nature
of
it
being
a
place
where
governance
occurs
and
the
city
hall
itself
the
people
of
the
city,
that
it
is
an
ongoing
cultural
resource
and
historic
site.
So
that's
where
I
have
a
problem
with
the
one-dimensional
aspect
of
both
the
staff
report
and
their
drug
resources
report.
E
B
F
Yeah
I
first
want
to
start
by
saying
I
have
a
great
deal
of
respect
for
all
of
my
fellow
board
members.
You
all
bring
a
wonderful
set
of
experiences
to
the
board,
and
so
I
hope
you
don't
take
any
of
my
comments
that
might
be
disagreeable
to
you
for
anything
more
than
having
a
difference
of
opinion.
I
have
a
great
deal
of
respect
for
all
of
you
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
the
hspb
is
not
in
an
awkward
position.
F
As
at
least
one
speaker
tonight
stated,
and
I
think
some
board
members
perhaps
feel
that
too,
some
would
like
us
to
feel
like
we're
in
an
awkward
position,
because
that
benefits
them
in
their
position,
which
is
which
is
rooted
in
politics
and
not
a
simple
decision.
This
is
a
relatively
simple
decision.
Does
a
does
the
removal
of
a
1990
statue
material
impair
the
1950s
and
1960s
city
hall,
architectural
jewel?
F
I
say
no,
its
removal
does
not
material
impair
nor
adversely
impact
the
historic
resource
of
city
hall.
Now
I
have
been
on
the
historic
reservation
board
for
less
than
one
year.
I
admit,
but
in
that
time
I
have
seen
many
historic
properties
that
have
had
that
have
been
altered
with
additions
built
long
after
the
original
structures
have
been
built.
I
have
also
learned
of
additions
to
many
other
historic
resources
that
came
before
the
historic
site
preservation
board
in
years
past.
F
A
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
intentionally
waited
for
everyone
else's
comments,
because
I
was
anticipating
some
differences
of
opinion
and
ultimately,
I
have
to
say
I
agree
with
board
member
miller.
D
I
agree
with
the
findings
of
the
staff
report
and
the
consultant
report
that
this
removal
of
the
statute
will
not
impact
city
hall
as
a
class
one
historical
resource,
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
mr
lyon:
is
there
any?
Are
there
any
plans
or
anything
you
can
share
with
us
about
the
relocation
or
is?
Has
there
been
no
decisions
in
that
regard
as
yet.
D
Okay,
I
do
think
that
chair
hubs-
comments
were
were
pretty
interesting
regarding
you
know,
a
possible
place
for
relocation
and
interpreting
the
history
of
this
individual.
You
know.
A
D
Revise
it
and
and
tell
it
a
little
bit
more
honestly,
you
know
there
are
obviously
some
good
good
and
bad
elements
of
that,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
that
it's
not
a
new
struggle
in
historic
preservation
to
be
looking
at
things
that
have
a
varied
history
and
revising
interpretations
of
the
history
to
be
more
accurate
and
sensitive.
You
know
in
this
day
and
age,
so
I
approve
the
staff
recommendation.
A
C
A
So,
okay,
I
okay
well
before
I
go
to
vice
chair
nelson
in
response
to
member
kaiser.
E
Yeah
yeah,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
forgot
to
mention
earlier
that
I
do
support
the
statement
that
madame
tram
made
very
much
so,
and
I
do
think
that
it
is
entirely
acceptable
for
the
statue
to
be
relocated
to
the
village
green
in
which
it
will
be
much
appreciated
and
promoted
by
the
historical
society.
E
So
it
would
be
a
good
fit
there.
They
have
expressed
interest
and
I
think
it
would
be
wonderful
because
point
bogart
was
very
much
involved
with
the
creation
of
the
village
green,
so
they
can
help
to
tell
that
story
with
a
commemorative
plaque
there.
E
So
would
we
perhaps
counter
resistance
again
from
the
same
opposing
voices
in
the
city
to
having
this
statue
of
this
man
on
city
property?
That's
one
of
my
big
concerns,
even
though
I
think
it's
the
perfect
location.
E
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
very
careful
as
we
move
forward
in
making
recommendations
or
agreements
about
where
it's
relocated
to
until
we
get
a
full
answer
from
the
city
or
the
city
attorney
or
you
know,
maybe
they
don't
have
an
answer,
but
perhaps
they
have
an
opinion
about
whether
it
should
be
moved
to
city
property
or
or
not.
Now
one
of
my
questions
is
already
answered,
because
I've
realized
that
it
is
a
piece
of
public
art
and
that
is
owned
by
the
city
in
public
trust.
E
So
there's
another
cog
in
the
wheel
that
I
think
we
need
some
clarification
on.
A
So,
member
vice
nelson,
so
it
was,
you
know,
donated
to
the
city
of
palm
springs
in
public
trust,
and
it
belongs
to
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
it
should
be
on
city,
city
property.
It's
really
unethical
to
to
place
it
relocated
on
private
property
and
and
it
can
be
reinter
interpreted
in
you
know
it's
part
of
our
history
and
it
needs
to
be
told
the
story
and
the
the
palm
springs
historical
society
would
would
has
agreed
to
tell
that
story
and
to
reinterpret
it.
A
So
I
I
am
supportive
of
its
reload
location,
I'm
not
supportive
of
removing
it
and
putting
in
into
storage
that
I
can't
do
that
now.
Remember:
rose
you're,
you're
waving
to
me
a
lot
so
please
take
it
from
here.
C
Yeah,
I
just
wondered,
I
think
it's
I
think
it's
an
interesting
solution.
Can
we
condition
our.
B
Well
again,
you
can
make
a
suggestion
or
a
recommendation
within
your
motion,
but
the
question
before
you
is
not
about
the
statute.
It
is
not
about
where
it
gets
relocated.
It
is
not
about
whether
it
goes
on
this
piece
of
land
or
that
piece
of
land
or
whether
it
goes
down
by
booger
trail
the
street.
B
You
may
make
suggestions
to
the
city
council.
That
would,
you
know,
perhaps
help
ameliorate,
so
much
of
the
public
concern
about
this.
But
ultimately
your
task
is
not
to
find
a
new
home
for
the
statue,
but
rather
to
determine
whether
the
removal
of
the
statue
from
city
hall
is
is
something
that
would
impair
the
historic
significance
of
city
hall,
as
we've
identified.
What
the
character
defining
features
are.
A
So
so
we
cannot
discuss
what
may
be
historic.
A
B
Well,
what
you
would
be
determining
is
whether
or
not
you
agree
with
the
professional
reports
that
have
been
prepared
for
you
about
what
makes
city
hall
historically
significant.
That's
really
the
question
here.
What
makes
city
hall
historically
significant,
what
has
been
recognized
all
these
years
that
it
has
had
significant
historic,
designation?
It's
been
about
the
architecture,
it's
been
about
albert
frey,
it's
been
about
the
mid-century
period
that
it
so
strongly
reflects.
B
It's
been
silent
on
the
question
of
the
significance
or
non-significance
of
the
statue.
That's
there
just
like.
There
are
many
other
things
on
different
historic
sites,
those
that
are
owned
by
the
city
and
those
that
are
privately
owned.
You
can
take
away
something
from
a
site.
You
can
add
something
to
the
site.
The
board
regularly
considers
this
question.
If
I
take
something
away-
or
if
I
put
something
in,
does
it
change
the
historic
significance
of
that
particular
historic
site?
That's
the
question
before
you,
so
it
can
go
as
broadly
as
you'd
like
to
consider
it.
B
I'm
not
limiting
you
in
terms
of
that
how
you
answer
that
question,
but
the
question
really
is
still
not
about
whether
you
love
frank
bogart.
You
love
the
statue,
you
feel
it's
art,
you
don't
feel
it's
art.
Your
question
is
about
what's
happening
to
this
historic
site,
which
is
city
hall.
If
this
thing
is
removed,
that's
the
question
now,
if
you
come
back
and
say
I
disagree
with
the
with
the
identification
of
character,
defining
features
that
the
professional
consultant
has
determined.
B
Certainly
that's
within
your
purview
to
disagree
with.
You
could
say
that
we
don't
agree
with
the
historic
resources
report
and
we
believe
that
the
statues,
you
know
character,
defining
in
some
way.
You
could
make
that
assertion
and
and
discount
the
entire
historic
resources
report.
It's
been
done
before.
C
B
C
C
I
think
we
would
all
be
in
agreement
and
we
could
solve
this
issue
very
simply
rather
than
debating
all
of
these
other
merits,
which
really
do
become
weeds.
I
agree
ken
exactly
what
you're
saying
with
what
we
are
tasked
to
do,
but
because
this
is
a
much
broader
and
a
politically
charged
issue,
I
think
it's
up
to
the
city
council
for
a
vote
of
the
people
to
say
this
is
where
it
goes
and
under
the
circumstances,
I
would
support
this
thing.
I
I
think
that's
a
great
motion.
C
E
C
B
Because
I
I
want
to
just
offer
something
because
I
I
was
I'm
sorry,
I
interrupted
you
member
kaiser.
That's
all
right!
The
point
that
I
was
trying
to
say
to
you
is
yes,
you
can
make
suggestions
and
recommendations
in
the
motion
that
you
may
choose
to
make
tonight.
You
may
choose
to
say,
as
you
were,
paraphrasing
we're.
Okay
with
removing
this
thing
from
this
site,
we
will
grant
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
remove
it.
B
However,
we
strongly
recommend,
because
there's
such
you
know,
public
concern
about
this
particular
object,
that
its
location
be
placed
in
another
piece
of
city-owned
property
and
that
you
know
the
full
interpretation
of
mr
bogart's
legacy
be
characterized
in
that
new
location.
You
could
certainly
make
that
as
a
recommendation.
A
A
C
F
This
is
a
simple
issue
about.
Will
the
relocation
or
removal
in
the
case
of
the
word
removal
is
relocation
of
this
statute
from
city
hall
grounds
material
affect
the
historic
resource
of
city
hall?
That's
the
simple
question
we
need
to
ask:
it
should
not
be
affected
by
where
the
statue
is
going
to
go.
F
I'm
certainly
supportive
of
including
in
emotion
that
we
encourage
the
city
to
find
a
suitable
location
that
is
publicly
accessible.
I
don't
know
that
has
to
be
public
property.
I
know
chair
howe
said
that
that
it
should
be
on
city
property,
since
it
was
donated
to
the
city,
but
I
don't
know,
if
that's
a
requirement,
I
think
the
legal
you
know
the
legal
writings
can
be
put
in
place.
F
That
would
ensure
public
accessibility,
even
if
it
wasn't
on
city-owned
property
and
I
think
again,
not
in
the
board's
purview-
that's
probably
the
safest
thing
for
the
city
as
a
whole
to
do.
But
again
that
should
not
be
in
our
motion,
but
I
do
support
that
that
we
encourage
the
city
to
relocate
it
to
a
you
know,
always
publicly
accessible
site
and
to
suggest
otherwise
and
to
delay.
This
simple
issue
again
is
just
it's
ridiculous.
A
Okay,
I
have
a
question:
is
it
correct
that
the
city
hall's
historic
character
is
not
affected
if
the
sculpture
stays
in
place.
B
That's
not
necessarily
saying
or
making
an
opinion
about
whether
it
contributes
to
or
detracts
from,
but
merely
we
recognize
it's
there
so
does
leaving
it
in
place,
materially
impair
the
defining
characteristics
of
city
hall.
The
answer
is
no,
because
when
you
look
at
the
list
of
defining
historic
characteristics
on
the
site,
the
statue
has
no
place
and
no
part
of
it.
So
could
it
materially
improve
you
hit
the
integrity,
keep
in
mind
now
we're
talking
about
distinctions
between
historic
integrity
and
historic
eligibility.
B
So
would
removal
of
the
statue
improve
the
historic
integrity
of
the
city
hall
site?
One
could
perhaps
conclude
yes,
because
if
you
go
back
to
1956
to
1965,
the
statue
wasn't
there.
So
if
you
were
to
remove
the
statue,
does
the
city
hall
become
more
like
it
was
during
its
period
of
significance?
The
answer
is
yes,
but
does
the
statue
as
it
sits
there
damage
the
historic
significance
of
city
hall?
B
A
Yes,
it
does,
and
okay
vice
chair
nelson.
E
Yeah
before
we
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
the
relocation
of
the
statute
is
appropriate
or
inappropriate
to
the
historic
site,
I
would
just
like
to
thank
all
the
speakers
that
spoke
tonight
and
for
those
speakers
that
don't
know
I'm
a
born
and
raised
pumpkin
native,
and
I
have
friends
of
all
backgrounds
relative
nationalities.
E
So
I
support
everything
that
you
have
said
and
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
and
we
are
just
here
because
we
have
been
tasked
with
protecting
the
historic
site
from
the
city
and
earthquake.
This
has
become
such
a
difficult
and
charged
item
and
discussion
for
many
many
months.
So
thank
you
for
listening
to
that.
B
I
might
also
add-
I
had
mentioned
this
during
your
first
consideration
of
this,
but
I
didn't
mention
it
to
to
the
record
earlier,
but,
as
you
know,
you
have
also
received,
in
addition
to
those
people
who
are
taking
the
time
to
participate
here
today.
A
D
D
You
know
make
some
recommendations
on
the
relocation
to
an
appropriate
site,
not
anything
in
particular
at
this
point
in
time,
but
I
think
that's
really
the
most
that
we
can
do
here.
There's
really
two
separate
things:
it's
approval
of
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
then
making
some
recommendations
for
how
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
statute
from
this
point
forward.
But
I
don't
think
we
really
have
any
say
in
in
where
it
goes
specifically
or
what
happens
to
it
once
it's
off
the
site,
the
class
one
site.
A
Okay,
any
other
further
questions
or
comments.
Is
there
a
motion.
B
I
just
wanted
to
augment
what
you
were
commenting
there
is
that
what
you're
beginning
to
sort
of
frame
out,
I
think,
may
represent
a
reasonable
balance
between
recognizing
the
concerns
of
the
community
and
recognizing
the
difficult
task
before
you.
If
you
were
to
say
you
know,
this
is
the
decision
that
we
want
to
make
on
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
and
we
would
make
the
following
recommendation
that
if
the
statute
is
to
be
removed
but
remember,
the
city
council
hasn't
fully
decided
to
remove
it.
B
So
if
you
were
to
make
a
decision
on
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
tonight
and
include
a
recommendation
along
the
lines
of
what
members
miller
and
hanson
said
that
the
statue
that
you
recommend
that
the
statue
be
relocated
to
a
place,
that's
publicly
accessible,
where
there's
an
ability
to
fully
interpret
the
the
legacy
of
this
person
might
be
totally
appropriate
and
actually
might
be
one
that
the
council
would
perhaps
appreciate,
because
it
does
help
to
sort
of
reflect.
A
F
F
I
would
move
that
we
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
removal
of
the
bogart
statue,
with
the
strong
recommendation
that
the
city
will
ensure
relocation
to
a
suitable,
publicly
accessible
site
ongoing
in
the
future.
H
A
Well,
you
know,
could
you
name
the
village
green,
where
the
historical
society
is.
A
E
Yes,
I'm
just
wondering
a
question
for
you,
madam
chair,
and
also
the
staff,
if
it
would
be
appropriate
in
this
motion
to
add
an
amendment
that
a
subcommittee
of
the
historic
flight
preservation
board,
work
with
the
city
council
and
the
city
staff
to
determine
the
relocation
site
and
the
placement
and
the
reinterpretation.
B
E
B
I
I
don't
think
it's
within
the
purview
of
this
board's
work
or
authority
to
do
so.
I
think
it
would
be
proactive
if
the
board
wanted
to
offer
to
participate
in
some
way,
but
I
don't
think
that
you
should
be
in
a
position
to
impose
or
require
that
they
include
this
board
or
members
of
it
in
that
decision
making
process.
B
But
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
fine
idea
to
offer
your
you
know
if
it
wants
to
be
a
subcommittee
that
would
participate
with
the
city
council
in
choosing
a
location,
you
could
certainly
offer
that.
A
Well,
I
think
that
this
whole
issue
should
go
back
to
the
city
council.
I
don't
like
being
put
in
this
position
where
we
can't
discuss
the
sculpture,
because
the
history
of
palm
springs
is
more
about
the
people
and
reinterpreting
the
history
telling
the
history
the
way
it
is.
I
don't
want
to
risk
approving
removal
and
it
goes
into
storage
for
a
couple
of
years.
I
I'm
just
uncomfortable
doing
that.
C
I
agree
with
that,
and
you
know
what
we're
doing
just
you
know.
I
know
we
have
a
narrow
question
and-
and
I
get
everyone's
point
but
guys
and
girls,
we
are
deciding
whether
this
thing
gets
removed
with
this
certificate
of
appropriateness.
A
Okay,
he
switched
to
an
iphone
okay.
So,
mr
lyon,
can
you
help
us.
A
Okay,
so,
okay,
so
okay,
so,
mr
miller,
you
have
made
a
motion.
If
you
would
restate
that
and
then
I
believe
that
member
hanson
seconded
it.
But
would
you
please
restate
the
motion.
F
Yeah
my
motion
was
to
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
removal
of
the
bogart
statue,
with
the
strong
recommendation
that
the
city,
and
perhaps
that
means
city
council-
will
ensure
its
relocation
to
a
suitable,
publicly
accessible
site
in
perpetuity
nothing's
permanent
right
until
another
decision
is
made.
But
that's
outside
of
our
bailiwick.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
that
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second,
a
second
okay?
So
there's
a
second
motion
made
by
miller
in
a
second
by
hanson?
Is
there
further
discussion
on
this.
B
Was
the
I
heard
somebody
say
that
there
was
impossible
interest
in
adding
the
phrase
such
as
the
village
green
into
that
motion?
Is
that
something
that
the
maker
or
the
seconder
are
interested.
A
C
A
A
So
three
in
favor
two
opposed
one
abstain.
No.
A
B
It
is
difficult
and
I
think
your
motion
was
a
good
one-
that
balanced
everything
that
you're
hearing
as
well
as
your
own
concern.
So
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
that
was
that
was
a
tough
one
and
I'm
going
to
be
here
to
be
recognized
for
making
a
hard
decision.
Thank
you.
A
A
This
is
a
review
for
potential
re-designation
of
a
class
4
site
to
a
class,
1
or
2
historic
resource
initiated
by
application
by
daniel
batty
owner,
requesting
approval
to
demolish
the
dwelling
located
at
smoke.
Tree
ranch,
rock
12,
5
r
staff
report
or
comment
about
that.
B
Yes,
madam
chair
and
the
board,
this
item
is
on
your
agenda
with
a
recommendation
in
the
agenda
to
continue
to
a
date
certain
of
your
march
meeting.
B
What
has
happened
here
is
I
I
worked
as
hard
as
I
could
to
pull
this
whole
thing
together
in
time
for
your
action
on
this
tonight,
but
we
ran
out
of
time
in
terms
of
trying
to
schedule,
site
visits,
and
so
recognizing
that
you
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
see
the
site
I
am
recommending,
even
though
the
recommendation
in
this
staff
report
was
written
to
take
no
action
and
allow
the
property
or
the
structure
to
be
demolished.
A
So
we
we
have
a
motion
by
kaiser
and
a
second
by
miller.
Is
there
any
discussion
about
that
further?
Yes,
vice
chair
nelson.
A
E
A
Okay,
any
opposed
okay,
so
the
motion
passes
seven
to
zero.
Let
us
proceed
to
discussion
item
five,
a
which
is
the.
A
The
preservation
matters
symposium,
so
our
our
subcommittee,
which
includes
member
vice
chair
nelson
and
member
kaiser,
along
with
some
other
members,
have
been
meeting
regularly,
along
with
mr
lyon
to
come
with
up
with
a
wonderful,
meaningful
and
worthwhile
symposium
entitled
preservation
matters,
historical
and
architectural
diversity.
A
A
Deborah
hovel
is
working
with
tom
doyle
on
the
pres,
the
production
of
the
symposium
and
they're,
creating
a
sizzle
which
is
a
short
upbeat,
video
of
highlights
that
will
be
complete
in
probably
within
the
next
two
weeks
and
we'll
launch
our
pr
and
marketing
program.
A
Another
subcommittee
meeting
is
scheduled
for
february
15th
and
then
we're
going
to
do
a
site
visit
to
the
convention
center
on
the
16th,
and
we
have
to
give
a
lot
of
thanks
to
dick
parquet,
who
has
continued
to
help
us
with
the
convention
center
layout
and
logistics
and
marketing
plan
and
and
so
forth.
So
so
we're
gonna
be
able
to
to
launch
that
marketing
very,
very
soon
and
vice
chair
nelson
or
member
kaiser.
A
If
you
would
like
to
add
anything
to
the
report
for
what
we're
doing,
I
would
welcome
that.
A
Okay,
we're
good.
We
are
good,
okay,
so
moving
along.
So
that
completes
today's
agenda
and
are
there
any
comments
from
the
board?
Other
comments.
D
I
just
wanted
to
thank
all
the
members
of
the
symposium
committee
and
dick
brickette
and
and
ken
for
all
the
work
that
you're
doing.
I
know
it's
a
ton
of
work
to
put
a
conference
on
having
been
on
committees
in
the
past,
so
I
just
I
I
personally
really
appreciate
and
I'm
sure
the
community
will
appreciate
all
that.
The
work
that
you're
putting
in
on
this-
and
hopefully
it
all
comes
together
without
you
know
any
complications
from
our
friend
code
or
our.
D
A
E
Yeah
just
checking
in
with
the
staff
how
to
our
concern
the
last
time
we
discussed
the
site.
I
met
a
lot
of
meetings
about
whether
there's
been
any
direction
from
the
city
or
the
convention
center
about
whether
the
event
can
proceed
in
person
or,
if
it's
still
too
soon
to
now.
B
It's
unfortunately,
still
too
soon
to
tell
city
hall
is
still
closed
to
the
public
staff
is
working
on
being
half
out
of
the
city
hall
building
to
try
to
reduce
the
spread
of
covet
at
this
time
until
the
council
and
the
city
manager
gives
us
further
notice.
We
really
don't
know.
F
Yeah,
chair
and
board-
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
all
received
an
email
from
ken
stating
that
I
was
placed
on
the
city's
planning
commission
and
I
have
been,
and
I'm
looking
forward
to,
that
that
volunteer
work
very
much
and
I've
enjoyed
my
time
working
with
you
all
and
I'm
I've.
F
F
But
I
did
want
to
tell
you
at
this
opportunity
that
I've
really
enjoyed
working
with
you,
and
I
will
continue
to
do
so
in
at
least
the
month
or
two
coming
up,
and
I
today's
meeting
was
a
little
contentious.
I
apologize.
I
hope
I
I
hope
you
don't
feel
that
I
stepped
on
any
of
your
shoes.
Personally,
I
certainly
didn't
mean
to.
I
have
a
great
deal
of
respect
for
all
of
you
and
I
hope
to
continue
to
work
with
you
in
that
vein
going
forward.
A
So
any
staff
comments
does
staff.
Have
any
comments.
B
Yes,
I
have
just
a
couple
of
things
to
report.
First
of
all,
I
believe
I
advised
you
over
the
past
month
or
two
about
the
work
that's
occurring
at
the
bank
of
america
building.
I
did
forward
your
recommendations
on
the
modifications
to
the
privacy
screen
at
the
atm,
and
I
believe
your
comments
are
being
incorporated
into
that
to
raise
the
bottom
of
the
screen
up
and
shorten
it
a
little
bit.
B
So
you
should
be
seeing
paint,
work
and
landscape
work
and
things
like
that,
going
on
there
at
the
bank
of
america
building
and
as
I
mentioned
to
you
before,
I,
I
guess
personally,
I'm
very
relieved
that
we're
seeing
this
finally
get
painted
the
correct
color,
the
color
that
they
found
was
actually
found
underneath
a
cover
plate
of
some
kind
on
the
outside
of
the
building,
which
revealed
it's
what
its
original
color
was,
which
was
kind
of
a
taupey
gray,
color,
so
it'll
be
nice
to
see
that
building
finally
come
back
into
the
warm
hues
that
it
was
originally
designed
with.
B
The
second
item
I
want
to
bring
to
your
attention
is
that
member
nelson
had
asked
about
the
cork
and
bottle
building.
If
you
recall,
the
cork
and
bottle
building
has
its
main
primary
facade,
which
is
the
basically
the
three
part
facade
building
with
the
two
side
windows
and
then
the
vertical
part
with
the
clock.
And
then,
if
you
recall,
there's
a
small
annex
on
the
north,
that's
attached
to
the
north
side
of
the
cork
and
bottle
building.
B
B
Well,
I
drove
past
there
this
past
weekend
and
the
annex
is
gone,
and
so
I
contacted
the
property
owner
and
he
informed
me
that
during
the
process
of
demoing
out
the
inside,
the
building
shell
was
apparently
badly
deteriorated
due
to
termite
infestations
and
when
they
arrived
back
on
the
site.
Apparently,
after
a
weekend,
the
building
was
in
a
state
of
partial
collapse,
and
so
it
was
removed,
and
so
the
good
news
is
that
it
was
not
part
of
the
historic
character,
defining
features
of
the
cork
and
bottle
building.
B
The
project
that
they
were
working
on
included
a
very
small
addition
on
the
back
side
of
that
north
annex,
so
I
believe
they
had
like
plumbing
and
everything
else
already
stubbed
in
for
that
when
this
problem
occurred.
So
I
spoke
with
the
owner
today
and
we
will
be
having
a
continued
dialogue
on
how
they
want
to
move
forward
with
their
rehabilitation
of
that
class
one
site.
B
But
it's
something
that
caught
my
eye
made
me
drive
around
the
block
twice
to
realize
it
was
gone
and
but
apparently
he's
going
to
be
sending
me
pictures,
which
I
will
share
with
you
as
well
in
terms
of
what
actually
happened
there.
I
too,
wanted
to
say
congratulations
to
member
miller,
who
will
be
a
fine
compliment
to
the
planning
commission.
B
He
has
been
a
very
positive
contribution
to
this
board
and
as
staff
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
service
here,
and
I
appreciate
that
you're
willing
to
stay
on
I'm
doing
two
roles
now
and
two
positions.
Now
you
can
too
right
so
anyways.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
believe
that
completes
my
comments.
Flynn
or
david.
Did
you
have
any
comments
you
wanted
to
add?
E
Night,
let's
respond
to
mr
lyons
comments
about
the
bank
of
america.
Two
concerns
one
being
here:
the
proposed
re-landscaping
to
the
south
side
of
the
building
going
to
be
done
before
the
new
roundabout,
and,
if
so,
will
it
be
negatively
impacted
when
they
tear
up
the
street
to
do
the
construction
of
the
roundabout?
E
The
other
question
also
pertaining
to
bfa
is
in
the
area
in
the
front
the
face
of
the
parking
lot.
There
is
a
historic
market,
but
then
there's
also
something
that
looks
like
it
was
an
opening
to
a
safe
or
a.
E
Yeah
yeah
and
then
there's
also
another
little
plaque
that
says
something
of
like
no
loitering
or
trespassing
and
then
there's
a
light
fixture.
So
there's
like
four
things
going
on
right
there
and
it's
really
messy
and
it
doesn't
look
good.
I
was
just
wondering
with
this
just
repainting
if
we
could
have
the
opportunity
to
maybe
clean
that
up
a
bit
around
where
the
market
is
located,
so
that
it's
not
detracting
from
the
beautiful
historic
integrity.
B
Very
good
point,
member
nelson
and
I
believe
my
feeble
memory
serves
me
the
light
fixture
on
the
wall
I
think,
is
being
eliminated,
and
I
will
definitely
forward
your
recommendation
that
when
those
markers
and
plaques
and
things
are
put
back
on
the
wall,
that
we
try
to
get
them
realigned,
I'm
assuming
they're,
taking
them
off
the
wall
to
do
the
paint
job.
But
I
don't
know
that
for
sure,
but
regardless
I
will
make
that
recommendation
to
them
and
with
respect
to
the
landscape
on
the
south
part
of
the
building.
B
Interestingly,
the
city
did
a
recent
about
a
year
or
two
ago,
accessible
sidewalk
modification
there
on
the
south
side
and
the
landscaping
in
what
is
the
city
right
of
way
is
currently
unfinished.
The
landscaping
that
the
bank
proposed
is
is
the
landscaping
that's
on
their
parcel.
B
Their
parcel
does
not
extend
all
the
way
to
that
corner
south
of
the
building,
but
it
encompasses
about
two-thirds
of
that
open
space,
and
so
the
landscaping
on
their
site
is
pretty
much
consistent
with
what
they
have
right.
Now,
it's
not
a
drastic
change
in
any
way.
It's
really
taking
care
of
the
lantana,
getting
rid
of
dead,
stuff
and
filling
in
things
where
there
were
some
missing
trees
and
things.
B
I
am
going
to
be
working
with
public
works,
to
look
at
I've,
seen
just
very
conceptual
layouts
of
the
traffic
circle,
and
I
I
will
be
working
with
them
on
that,
and
I
told
the
bank
that
I
would
coordinate
with
them
as
well,
so
that
when
that
landscaping
is
put
together
that
it's
harmonious.
E
Great,
thank
you
one
more.
Thank
you
out
on
that.
I
appreciate
your
patience
growing
up
here.
I
seem
to
recall
that,
as
part
of
that
landscaping
around
the
the
three
sides
of
the
building,
so
the
west
side,
the
south
side
and
the
east
side.
Basically
the
point.
I
seem
to
recall
that
as
part
of
the
landscaping
there
was
lighting
at
some
point
shown
up
and
highlighted
the
fact
that
it
was
on
a
plinth
or
that
it
was
kind
of
protruding
or
floating
out
there.
E
And
I
don't
know
if
that
was
part
of
the
original
landscape
design
plan
or
if
that
was
added
after
the
fact.
But
I
seem
to
remember
it
being
very
cool
and
highlighting
the
the
architecture
so
just
wondering
if
you've
seen
the
lighting
plan
and,
if
they're
being
incorporated
or
not.
B
There
was
nothing
that
I
saw
with
respect
to
architectural
lighting
of
the
building.
I
do
recall
and
you've
all
probably
seen
it
there's
an
old
postcard
of
the
building.
That's
a
night
shot
that,
yes,
does
seem
to
show
some
type
of
architectural
lighting
on
the
building
with
that
original
screen
was
on
the
west
side
of
the
building,
but
I
don't
believe
that
the
bank
has
any
current
plans
to
put
architectural
lighting
onto
the
building
at
this
time.
E
Okay-
and
I
would
just
add
that,
if
they
did,
it
would
help
with
safety
and
security,
because
we
all
know
that
loitering
and
homelessness
has
become
an
issue,
so
the
more
lighting
they
have,
the
more
it
would
deter
that
unlikely
element.
Good.
B
A
Okay,
any
any
other
discussion
this
evening,
okay,
saying
no
further
discussion.
This
meeting
of
the
historic
site
preservation
board
is
adjourned
at
704
pm
to
the
meeting
of
tuesday
march
1st
2022
at
5
30
pm.
So
thanks
again
for
all
of
your
participation
this
evening,
we
all
appreciate
it
bye,
bye,
thank.