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B
Okay,
so
I
will
call
to
order
the
march
16th
meeting
of
the
palm
springs.
Sustainability,
commission
and
the
first
thing
that
we'll
do
is
take
roll
call,
but
actually
before
that,
I'm
going
to
move
up
an
agenda
item
and
introduce
our
new
program
coordinator,
tracy
sheldon.
Some
of
you
have
met
her
in
committing
meetings
before,
but
this
is
her
first
meeting
of
the
of
the
commission
tracy
started
on
february.
22Nd
she's
had
a
lot
of
experience
in
local
government
in
south
lake
tahoe
about
eight
years
as
communications
manager,
public
information
officer.
A
Mr
clark,
you
are
present
yes,
robert
mccann.
C
C
C
D
E
Me
sandra
garrett,
and
I
I've
been
trying
to
log
on
since
quarter
after,
and
this
is
it's
not
it's
not
recognizing
me.
I've
got
the
id
number
and
everything
so
anyway.
It
let
me
in
by
phone.
So
sorry.
B
Well,
great
tracy:
will
you
ask
our
visitors
to
identify
themselves?
We
we
have
several
people
here
on
the
list.
D
A
Thank
you,
tamara
diamond.
A
And
deborah
whoops,
deborah
mcgary,
with
socalgas
just
listening
in
welcome,
thank
you
for
joining,
and
mr
flynn
fagg.
F
B
Thank
you
flynn,
so
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
commissioners
staff
members
and
visitors
to
our
meeting
tonight.
Patrick
won't
be
present
for
this
meeting
and
for
the
visitors
there
will
be
a
time
for
public
comment
later
in
the
meeting.
B
B
All
in
favor
of
accepting
the
agenda,
please
say
yes,.
F
B
And
now
we'll
move
on
to
the
next
item,
which
is
staff
comments
which
patrick
covers
and
he
did
provide
a
memo
in
the
agenda
packet
and
tracy,
will
cover
that.
A
Thank
you.
In
regards
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
capital
improvement
project
staff
did
try
to
work
with
dawn
to
get
a
presentation
for
this
evening's
meeting.
Unfortunately,
that
was
not
able
to
be
done,
but
it
is
on
the
march
25th
city
council
agenda,
so
we
will
be
able
to
reference
that
report
in
regards
to
that
item
and
then,
in
regards
to
the
reusable
food
service
service,
wear
and
plastic
waste
reduction
and
update
on
sb
1383.
A
A
For
the
pedestrian
safe
routes,
we're
going
to
be
having
the
virtual
walk
audits,
the
first
one
is
tomorrow
on
march
17th.
A
They
are
being
hosted
by
our
council
members
and
also
our
mayor,
and
we
have
that
information
in
our
package
and
it's
also
been
posted
on
our
facebook
page
and
we
are
encouraging
the
community
to
participate
in
that.
Since
it
is
a
virtual
event,
and
I
would
ask
that
that
the
commissioners,
depending
on
which
district
you
reside
in
you-
participate
in
your
respective
one.
A
And
that
concludes
the
summary
of
of
the
staff
comments.
B
Okay,
we'll
we'll
move
on
then
to
public
comments,
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
try
what
I
did
last
time.
And
that
is
not
to
read
the
canned
statement
but
to
first
ask
if,
if
there's
anybody
any
of
the
visitors
who
will
have
public
comment
this
evening
and
then
I'll.
G
B
F
So,
a
few
years
ago,
our
con
our
health
care
consortium
created
a
web
page
that
has
now
been
adopted
by
the
county
and
basically,
it
provides
all
type
of
information.
Everything
from
social
services
such
as
the
fine
food
bank,
like
where's,
the
next
location
to
mental
health
counseling.
F
A
F
Yep,
so
it's
all
the
inland
empire
you
can
see
is
all
can
it
was
a
combination,
effort
from
the
county
and
a
desert
healthcare
district.
So
you
can
I
mean
you
just
play
with
it.
You
put
in
your
zip
code.
As
you
see
you
put
in
nine
two,
two
six,
two
or
four,
and
then
anything
you
need.
If
you
need
rental
assistance,
food
pantry
say:
let's
try
community
gardens,
let's
see
if
we
see
tracy,
so
I'm
interested
in
community
garden
see
if
that
one
will
pop
up
our.
F
Which
is
more
of
a
few
distribution
garden
of
hopes,
so
this
went
biting,
but
you
can
example,
but
it
gives
you
all
the
information
to
contact
phone
numbers
dates
locations
you
can
update
it.
You
can
add
suggestions
very
interactive,
so
it's
a
great
thing
that
they
came
out
with.
So
even
on
that
page
there
are
188
responses
under
community
gardens.
F
So
that's
the
idea
of
this
just
plain
simple:
it's
free
for
everyone
to
use
roy
before
we
last
two
couple
years
ago
we
sort
of
advertised
it
on
our
web
page.
I
don't
know
if
we'd
like
to
do
the
same
with
this,
but
that's
pretty
much
it
right
there
you
can
see.
It
goes
from
education,
work,
stuff,
legal
assistance,
transportation,
you
name
it
it's
all.
There.
B
And
one
thing
that
I
saw
that
I
thought
was
interesting:
it
gave
a
lot
of
information
about
the
county
supervisors
and
the
districts
what
cities
are
in
the
districts.
I.
B
I
forget
where
it
was,
but
we
hear
about
that
all
the
time
and-
and
I
didn't
know
very
much
so
it
was
very
helpful,
so
yeah
that
I
that
was
my
thought-
that
we
probably
should
have
this
available
someplace
on
our
sustainability
website,
so
that
people
can
get
this
information.
F
B
B
Thank
you,
carl,
so
tracy
can
you
look
into
how
to
place
that.
A
B
The
next
item
in
the
agenda
is
meeting
minutes.
The
minutes
from
the
february
16th
regular
meeting.
They
were
emailed
and
posted
last
thursday
march
11th.
Is
there
a
motion
to
accept
the
minutes.
B
And
all
in
favor
of
except
of
the
accepting
the
minutes.
Please
say
yes,
yes,
yes,
any
opposed
or
step
abstentions.
B
So
the
minutes
have
been
accepted.
Thank
you
and
we'll
move
on
now
to
old
business,
and
the
first
item
is
from
commissioner
or
vice
chair
mccann
and
commissioner
flanagan,
the
night
sky
subcommittee
report,
which
was
provided
to
you
in
your
packet
this
meeting
and
I
think
rob-
is
going
to
go
through
it.
B
This
is
something
that
we've
talked
about
in
the
past,
and
this
is
the
first
time
that
we've
actually
seen
the
report
and
the
recommendations
from
the
from
the
subcommittee,
but
my
thought
is:
if
we
are
in
agreement,
it
wouldn't
be
inappropriate
to
vote
on
the
recommendation
in
the
in
the
report.
B
C
Yeah-
and
I
would
like
to
bring
it
to
the
floor
at
this
meeting
if
there
aren't
any
objections,
the
the
report
identifies
several
negative
impacts
of
sky
glow
as
it
exists
today,
and
the
amount
of
light
pollution
that
we
have
today
in
the
city.
C
Those
include
energy
waste
impacts
on
human
health
effects
on
natural
ecosystems
and
reduced
effectiveness
of
nighttime
law
enforcement,
and
then
it
goes
through
some
of
the
benefits
of
a
nighttime
lighting
ordinance.
If
we
would
recommend
it,
it
would
help
further.
The
goals
of
the
original
palm
springs
sustainability
plan
from
2016,
because
the
plan
actually
included
a
recommendation
that
the
city
consider
implementing
an
outdoor
lighting
ordinance
that
reduces
glare
light,
trespass
and
sky
glow.
C
It
would
reduce
our
carbon
footprint,
which
we,
which
would
help
us
achieve
our
stated
goal
of
getting
to
carbon
neutrality
by
2030.
echo
tourism.
C
This
wasn't
an
obvious
one
to
to
gemini
until
we
started
to
explore
it,
but
we've
met
with
people
up
in
joshua
tree
and
their
claim
is
that
echo
tourists
for
to
go
to
joshua
tree
and
there's
just
this
enormous
population
here
in
southern
california
and
joshua
tree
is
the
closest
location.
They
can
go
to
get
to
dark
skies
and
there's
enough
tourists
that
want
to
go
in
stargaze
there
that
they
can't
accommodate
them
all.
C
So
it
would
be
natural
for
us
to
take
the
the
overflow
if
we
could
get
our
skies
darker
and
compete
for
that
tourism
dollar
as
well.
So
then,
the
report
goes
through
guidelines.
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
them
now,
but
but
that's
essentially
the
gist
of
it,
and
so
the
the
motion
that
would
go
to
the
floor
here
is
upon
consideration
of
the
issues
considered
in
the
report.
The
palm
springs.
C
So
should
I
can
I
bring
that
motion
to
florida
roy
or
is
that
you.
C
Okay,
so
that's
the
motion.
Do
I
have
a
second.
F
C
All
right,
second
vote.
D
Yeah
question:
it's
not
clear
from
the
draft
whether
this
is
only
perspective
for
new
construction
or
whether
it
would
apply
to
all
of
the
existing
outdoor
lighting,
and
I
would
like
that
to
be
clarified.
The
zoning
ordinance
I'll
comment
about
that
in
a
second,
but
the
zoning
code
that
cited
9321.00,
I
believe,
only
applies-
gives
the
planning
commission
and
the
director
flynn's
on
the
phone
authority
over
and
the
ac
to
some
degree
authority
over
new
construction.
D
The
planning
commission
just
voted
on
a
sort
of
clarification
of
the
roles
between
the
commission
and
the
aac,
and
there
are
some
provisions
can
93
21
0
0
that
would
just
limit
aac
review
to
hillside
development
and
then
for
any
other
projects.
That
would
be
just
the
planning
staff
with
you
know,
under
flynn's
supervision
to
review
lighting.
So
this
ordinance
would
need
to
be
coordinated
with.
D
Obviously,
what
the
what
planning
commission
is
doing
right
now
and
that's
just
not
clear
to
me
what
how
this
word
would
fit
in
with
the
zoning
code.
So
if
you
could
clarify
that
vice
chairman
can
that
would
be
appreciated.
C
Yeah,
so
two,
I
think
you
brought
up
two
points,
need
clarification.
The
first
one
would
this
just
be
for
new
construction
or
would
it
be
retroactive
and
the
answer
is
it
has
to
be
retroactive
and
new
construction.
It
has
to
be
both.
So
I
will
clarify
that
in
the
report-
and
I
don't
have
a
clear
answer
to
your
second
question-
about
how
to
coordinate
this
with
the
planning
commission,
but
I
will
explore
that
and
and
get
some
language
into
this
document
that
clarifies
that
as
well.
D
But
how
would
it
where?
How
would
it
sort
of
would
would
this
basically
require
people
to
take?
You
know,
look
at
all
of
their
outdoor
lighting
and
replace
it
what's
the
timing
for
that.
Obviously,
there
are
costs
to
people
that
would
need
to
be
looked
at
to
sort
of
consider
what
the
retrofit
costs
are.
D
You
know
what
the
trigger
is
for
acquiring
a
retrofit.
You
know
what
is
the
role
of
code
enforcement
to
sort
of
go
around
and
say:
hey,
you
know,
turn
off
your
lights
or
put
things
on
there,
so
I
I
I
understand,
sort
of
the
objectives
here,
but
to
say
that
this
applies
to
existing
lighting.
D
C
It
is
a
big
ask,
but
I
think
it's
it's
got
to
be
part
of
it
or
it'll
be
ineffective.
The
so,
for
example,
also
david
one
recommendation
is
that
we
go
to
curfews
on
outdoor
lighting,
especially
landscape
lighting.
That
involves
uplighting,
and
I
mean
either
everybody
conforms
to
that
or
or
it'll
be
ineffective.
So
yeah.
D
That's
I
think,
easier
to
comply
with,
because
that
you
simply
put
a
timer
and
you
turn
the
timer
to
go
off
at
10
or
11
o'clock
and
I
think
that's
fairly
easy,
but
I'm
somewhat
concerned
about
you
know
lumens
and
kelvins
and
shielding
for
existing.
You
know
for
what
would
be
existing.
You
know
both
commercial
and
residential,
and
what
happens
I
mean
generally
generally,
you
know
for
code
stuff,
something
that's
already
there.
D
If
the
rules
change,
it
becomes
non-conforming
and
if
you
have
to
replace
it,
then
you
replace
it
to
code
correct,
but
you
wouldn't
necessarily
say
that
everybody
has
to
you
know
you
know,
throw
out
what
they
already
have.
I
could
understand
you
know
and
that's
you
know
you
do.
You
know
any
form
of
of
upgrades
in
your
house.
You
know
we've
seen
you
often
have
to
conform
that
to
code.
So
I
would
appreciate
the
clarification
of
exactly
how
this
is
supposed
to
work
for
existing.
D
C
Okay,
and
is
that
an
appropriate
scope
for
this
small
report
and
us
making
a
recommendation.
D
I
would
prefer
understanding
what
what
what
your
intention
is
before
if
we're
going
to
vote
today.
I'd
like
to
understand
I'd
like
that
to
be
clarified
in
the
motion
of
exactly
what's
intended,
because
I
I
would
support
this
for
new
construction.
I
would
support
it
for
replacement
upon.
You
know
that
this
is
what
you
need
to
do.
D
If
you're
replacing
your
existing
lighting,
I
wouldn't
necessarily
be
able
to
support
it
if
it's
selling
every
residence
in
business
in
the
city
that
you
have
to
rip
out
your
existing
lighting
and
replace
it,
because
I
think
that
requires
a
rather
substantial.
You
know
cost
analysis
to
tell
people
what
what
they
need
to
do.
So
I
I
would
like
that
to
be
sort
of
clarified.
You
know
if
you
say
well,
people
have
to
sort
of
conform
to
the
program.
Then,
okay,
that's
fine,
but
I'm
not
able
to
support
something
with
that
without
any.
C
Okay,
well,
that's
not
part
of
the
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor
for
this
meeting,
so
I
guess
we
better
table
it
and
and
bring
it
forward
in
the
future.
D
C
B
And
one
is
going
with
what
david
just
said,
especially
going
through
the
the
ban
on
gas-powered
leaf
blowers
and
the
difficulty
in
enforcing
that
ban.
I'm
concerned
about.
You
know
the
enforcement
it
it
does
depend
upon
whether
it's
required
of
all
homes
or
just
for
new
construction
or
retrofits.
But
it's
something
that
that
I
think
needs
to
be
considered.
B
C
B
My
thought
is
that
that
the,
if,
if
you
feel
that
all
of
those
guidelines
are
valid,
we
should
make
the
motion
a
little
bit
more
general
about
revising
the
ordinance
and
say
taking
into
account
the
guidelines
in
this.
In
this
report,
I
think
that.
B
C
B
C
Point
so,
and-
and
that's
that's
part
of
the
problem-
if
if
we
don't
go
for
retrofitting
leds
last
for
for
decades,
so
the
high
temperature
ones
that
do
so
much
of
the
damage.
If
people
have
installed
them
already,
then
we're
you
know:
either
we
try
to
enforce
a
change
out
or
or
we're
stuck
with
the
the
sky
glow.
C
E
Just
real
just
real
quick,
I
grew
up
in
malibu
canyon
and
right
along
pacific
coast
highway
there
we
always
have
dark
skies
as
development
increased
and
now
all
of
that
is
extremely
developed.
E
They've
still
maintained
that
dark
skies,
so
it's
quite
unique
to
that
area,
and
it's
something
that
I
really
like
here
and
I
agree
that
I
think
this
could
be
tremendous
for
business
and
people
coming
here
to
get
away
from
it.
But
how
can
we
have
that?
If
there
are
exclusions
it
has
it
has
to
be.
So
I
I
think
if
there
were
some
kind
of
provisions
or
break
or
way
to
compensate
people
that
you
know
that
could
scale
down
or
to
allow
for
timers
or
something
like
that.
E
I
think
that
would
be
a
tremendous
thing
and
not
just
to
let
it
happen
because
all
of
this
natural
skies
and
that
is-
is
slipping
through
our
fingers,
and
I
think
we
should
really
enhance
this.
So
whatever
we
have
to
do
to
do
that,
yeah.
C
Yeah,
can
I
just
respond
to
that
quickly,
david?
That's,
it
sanders
pointed
out
the
problem,
if,
if
it,
if
this
only
applies
to
new
construction
or
replacement,
we're
not
going
to
get
rid
of
the
problem,
because
the
problem
exists
today
with
existing
light
fixtures
and
all
of
the
development,
that's
happened
over
the
last
20
years
and
and
all
of
them
that
have
been
installed.
So
I
just
want
to
make
that
point.
Yeah.
D
I
would
appreciate
understanding
exactly
I
mean
I'm
personally.
I've
got
all
2
700
kelvins,
because
that's
what
my
lighting
consultant
told
me
to
do
both
inside
and
outside,
but
you
know
if
you're
telling
people
that
they
need
to
replace.
I
don't
know
how
many
outside
bulbs-
I
have
that.
Probably
you
know
close
to
somewhere
around
50
to
75,
telling
me
that
I
need
to
within
x
time
take
out
every
single
one
of
them
and
replace
it.
D
That's
a
very
large,
very
large
financial
commitment
that
you're
asking
people
to
do,
and
that's
just
one
single
residence.
Yes,
so
I
I
find,
but
there
is
a
very,
very
large
cost
and
generally
when
we
change
codes,
we
don't
require
people
to
immediately
literally
rip
out
what
they
have
it's
non-conforming
and
then
upon
replacement.
They
need
to
go
up
to
code,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
generally
of
things
that
people
need
to
sort
of
immediately
take
out
what
they're
doing
as
opposed
to
bring
up
to
code
upon
upon
replacement.
D
The
timing
is
not
an
issue
saying
everyone
has
to
turn
those
things
off:
there's
no
cost
in
setting
them
to
go
off
at
10
or
11
o'clock,
so
that
I
would
support.
But
I
I
you
know
whether
or
not
this
is
going
forward
today-
I'm
not
able
to
support
a
retrofit
requirement
without
understanding
what
the
costs
and
consequences
are
and
the
timing
to
make
people
to
retrofit.
G
I
mean
this
is
not
like
title
24,
where
we
have
a
big
enforcement
structure
and
that's
causing
people
to
change
stuff
out,
but
what
I
think
rob
is
looking
at
is
there's
an
existing
set
of
lighting
codes
that
are
already
in
place
for
outdoor
lighting
and
whether
we
choose
to
enforce
them
or
not
enforce
them
that
you
know
that's
remains
to
be
discussed,
but
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
get
ins
and
update
these,
so
they,
the
ones
that
we
have
in
place
that
we
currently
are
not
or
are
enforcing,
are
more
akin
to
what
we
need
to
do
for
dark
skies,
and
then
I
think
enforcement
could
be.
G
C
Yeah
I
mean
that
this
this
the
municipal
code,
contains
guidelines
and
they're
good
ones,
they're
they're,
just
completely
ignored
by
residents,
who
don't
even
know
about
them
and
and
completely
ignored
right
now
by
the
city
in
installing
their
own
up
lighting.
B
And
we
have
taken
a
step
to
deal
with
the
city's
lighting
with
a
report
that
you
wrote
previously
rob
which,
which
should
have
been
sent
to
maintenance
about
the
excessive
amount
of
light
from
some
of
the
lighting
on
chocolates.
C
D
Just
to
clarify,
unless
there's
something
that
I'm
missing
the
existing
code,
which
is
cited,
the
zoning
code
only
applies
to
new
construction,
I.e,
you're,
coming
into
planning
across
the
counter
and
you're
building.
You
know
either
a
new
housing
development
or
some
new
commercial
property.
That's
the
current
jurisdiction
of
the
planning
services
division
and
the
planning
commission.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
provision
in
the
sort
of
operative
section,
I.e,
title
eight
of
the
code
that
actually
sets
a
requirement
for
existing
properties.
D
So
there's
a
jurisdictional
question
here,
sorry
to
be
legal
about
this,
but
the
zoning
code
covers
one
area
and
in
fact,
the
proposal
in
the
planning
commission
considered
last
week.
If
you
narrow
that
there
is
no
operative
code
section
in
title,
eight
like
there
is
for
all
the
other
building
codes
that
tells
people
what
you
know,
what
kelvins
they
have.
So
it's
fine.
D
If
you
want
to
go
there,
but
I
I
think
it's
a
very
major
ask
to
require
retrofits
when
nobody
has
you
know,
just
residences
have
had
no
jurisdiction
that
have
told
them
what
they
can
do
or
not
do.
E
Be
possible
without
going
through
a
lot
of
actual
legislation
at
this
point,
maybe
public
education
and
outreach,
even
through
the
local
news
media
and
that
and
just
last
month,
actually
right
before
our
meeting.
I
had
met
a
lady
over
here
in
the
movie
colony.
They
bought
a
house
here
and
moved
here.
She
was
mentioning
to
me
how
dark
it
was
at
night,
and
I
said
about
the
dark
skies,
because
I
was
informed
about
it.
E
It
totally
turned
things
around
for
her.
She
couldn't
wait
to
get
home
to
tell
her
family
that
this
wasn't
accidental,
that
this
was
on
purpose
and
what
it
was
about.
So
I
think
if
we
could
get
people
just
to
be
aware
of
this
and
what
it
means
and
encourage
them,
and
then
if
there
was
some
some
incentive
or
compensation
for
people
who
were
going
to
retrofit,
then
I
think
that
would
be
encouraging,
because
we
can't
have
some
it's
you
know
like
in
a
public
pool.
E
C
Incentive
and
compensation
sounds
like
it
would
go
a
long
way
towards
addressing
david's
issue.
I
wonder
if
the
city's
or
anybody's
willing
to
to
cough
up
any
money
for
it.
F
But
that
raises
a
question
about
communication
with
the
media.
Does
the
city
have
a?
I
mean
there
are
all
these
late
evening
news
channel
sort
of
stories.
This
would
be
a
great
thing
like
a
week
long,
especially
during
arbor
day
or
some
around
environmental
world
day,
to
focus
five
nights
on
different
environmental
things
from
compost,
night
sky
turf
rebuilt.
F
I
mean
we
can
come
up
with
five
things
very
easily
and
just
do
a
whole
number
of
segments
with
the
local
news
media
to
push
the
message
to
the
population.
I
think
that
would
have
far
more
impact
than
anything
else.
I
like
totally
approved
and
appreciate
everything
that
rob
has
done.
I
think
it's
great.
D
I
would
certainly
support
education
to
let
people
know
that
when
they're
replacing
things,
this
is
what
they
should
do.
I
just
don't
think
that
you
have
to
sort
of
literally
rip
out
what
you've
got
right.
Now
that
that's
my
that's
my
big
concern.
Anything
that's
perspective
is
fine.
I
just
don't
I'm
not
can't
support
any
any
sort
of
retroactive
effect
when
there
has
not
been
a
pre
code
standard
without
at
least
a
financial
analysis,
to
understand
exactly
what
the
cost
would
be,
and
I
think
they
would
be
substantial.
G
I
think
this
applies
to
very
few.
Most
flights
are
going
to
comply.
I
mean,
I
think,
what
we
see
is
like
in
hoas.
They
can't
occasionally
use
the
500
watt
up
lights.
I
think
that's
the
main
thing
they're
looking
at,
but
I
think
doing
a
financial
analysis.
We
don't
have
the
resources
of
the
energy
commission
behind
us
to
do
this
david.
So
that's
not
going
to
happen.
You
know
it's.
G
I
hate
to
see
all
this
effort
lost
because
we're
not
going
to
get
a
financial
analysis
for
retrofitting
garden
lights,
but
I
wish
there
was
another
way
around
this.
C
Yeah
I
mean
I
do
see
the
problem
and
unfortunately
I
I
think
it's
a
major
one.
There
are
actually
a
lot
of
hoas
in
town
that
that
you've
seen
that
they
illuminate
their
areas
with
those
bulbs
right
they,
the
the
orbs
and
and
they're,
not
shielded
in
any
way.
The
light,
just
spills
out
in
all
directions
from
these
orbs
and
and
a
lot
of
them
do
that,
and
and
and
that
is
the
source
of
the
problem.
E
Well,
I
agree
with
with
carl
in
a
five
week,
or
even
if
that
was
extended
on
a
regular
programming,
where
we
could
have
kind
of
a
face
of
sustainability
and
whatever
was
the
theme
of
that
day,
or
I
think
I
think
public
education
is
the
way
to
go
with
this
and
that
people
aren't
forced
to
do
it.
They
know
about
it
and
they
want
to
do
it
and
they
help
one
another
to
do
it.
I
think.
F
F
G
C
C
B
So
where
do
we
go
from
here?
We
have
a
motion.
We've
had
some
discussion.
There
is
a
request
for
some
additional
clarification
about
retrofitting
versus
new
construction.
D
Well,
I
could
support
I
I
would
support,
and
this
is
an
issue
that
we
were
confronted
in
the
when
now
council
member
middleton
and
I
were
looking
at
the
a
potential
solar
mandate
and
flynn
was
involved
in
those
discussions.
We
really
struggled
with
retrofitting
and
costs.
I
actually
will
have
that
data
for
this
current
round
that
I'll
talk
about,
but
you
know
we
gave
up
and
simply
what
the
planning
commission
and
the
city
council
approved
was
a
policy
for
future
things.
D
So
I'm
fine
with
these
guidelines
for
I'm
fine
with
the
curfew
and
that's
covers
everybody,
whether
it's
existing
or
not.
D
You
can
set
your
timer,
I'm
fine
with
these
guidelines
to
you
have
to
work
out
with
flynn
about
you
know,
sort
of
using
those
for
93
21,
0
0,
which
currently
applies
to
new
construction,
although
you
have
to
coordinate
because
that's
supposed
to
be
only
for
hillside
going
forward,
so
that
would
have
to
be
coordinated,
and
I
am
fine
with
education
and
outreach
for
existing,
so
that
hoas,
commercial
property
and
individuals
know
that
when
they're
replacing
these
things,
they
should
do
at
hoas
as
they're
doing
their.
You
know
maintenance
plan
can
think
about.
D
You
know
buying
the
shields.
I
have
no
idea
how
much
it
costs,
but
I
I
just
can't
support
a
retrofit
requirement
without
understanding
what
the
costs
are
and
what
the
timing
would
be.
So
that's
where
I
am
that's
sort
of
what
I'd
be
prepared
to
vote
for
now,
which
is
you
know,
new
construction,
yes
time
area
for
everybody,
yes
and
education,
and
outreach
for
existing
existing
lightings.
C
All
right
david,
let's
do
one
one
little
bit
of
horse
trading
here
I
would.
I
would
totally
go
with
all
three
of
those
points
you
just
made
that
we
would
go
for
the
curfew,
the
guidelines
for
new
construction
and
public
advocation
public
advocacy
and
outreach.
How
about?
We
just
include
one
more
that
we
recommend
that
the
city
set
aside
some
funds
to
to
support
retrofit.
D
I
think
the
answer
is
you
know,
that's
us
and
the
set
aside
funds
is
we've
already
done
it
and
I
think
the
appropriate
place,
and
it
would
be
us
as
the
commissioners
to
simply
and
that's
administrative
if
we
have
a
sustainability,
scholarship
and
and
actually
we
don't
even
need
to
change
the
ordinance.
I
think
we
just
need
to
tell
patrick
to
give
direction
to
patrick,
to
say
is
that
anybody
who
also
wants
to
reduce
their
lighting
that
that's
eligible
for
the
sustainability
scholarship?
D
So
that's
that's
our
pot
of
money,
that's
our
program
and
I
would
obviously
support,
and
I
don't
think
we
you
know.
We
include
that
in
the
motion-
I'm
fine,
but
that's
that's
on
us
that
that's
on
us
and
I
think
that's
just
direction
to
patrick-
to
include
lighting
retrofits
as
being
eligible
for
the
sustainability
scholarship.
D
There's
a
question
of
whether
there's
enough
money.
But
you
know
that's
a
that's
a
whole
separate
question
really
for
the
next.
You
know
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year,
but
I
would
support
that,
but
recognizing
that
it's
our
pot
of
money,
not
not
quote
unquote
the
city's
money.
C
New
construction,
I
think
we
need
an
ordinance
right.
That's.
D
But
as
far
as
I
know-
and
perhaps
you
can
confirm
that
the
planning
commission
approved
the
the
proposed
amendments
and
and
specifically
men's
93-2100
limits
it
just
to
hillside
development
for
and
that's
just
the
adc
and
the
rest
is
you
know,
the
rest
is
planning
staff
that
that's
planning
staff,
but
the
guidelines
can
can
still
be
going
to
be
amended.
So
that
would
require
an
amendment
to
the
zoning
code
to
change
to
change
the
guidelines.
So
would
that
be
more
chair.
F
Mr
chair,
if
I
could
respond
to
commissioner
friedman's
question
in
terms
of
the
zoning
code,
what
I
would
recommend
is
that
ms
sheldon
will
coordinate
with
planning
staff
on
bringing
this
item
forward
under
the
direction
of
the
city
council,
to
amend
the
zoning
code
relative
to
outdoor
lighting
standards
and
then
going
to
the
second
part
of
that
question.
F
The
changes
that
we're
proposing
to
duties
for
the
planning,
commission
and
architectural
advisory
committee
would
not
impact
the
implementation
of
our
lighting
ordinance.
Just
very
simply
what
it
does
is.
Any
minor
architectural
reviews
are
processed
by
staff
and
staff
reviews
conformance
to
the
lighting
ordinance.
Any
major
architectural
reviews
would
be
evaluated
by
the
architectural
advisory
committee
for
conformance
with
the
lighting
code,
so
either
staff
or
aac
would
be
reviewing
new
lighting
plans
for
conformance
to
our
code.
F
Also
talking
to
the
issue
of
retrofits,
wherever
there
are
any
significant
modifications
to
a
property,
a
remodeling
of
a
property.
At
that
point
in
time,
we
would
also
verify
that
they
are
in
conformance
with
lighting
standards.
So,
in
certain
cases
where
there
is
a
remodeling
project,
applicants
would
be
required
to
adhere
to
the
new
standards,
but
we
wouldn't
do
a
completely
retroactive
ordinance
where
everyone
from
day
one
has
to
replace
their
lighting
fixtures.
So
hopefully
that
answers
your
questions.
Thank
you.
D
Very
much
director
pegg.
I
appreciate
those
clarifications
that
that
that's
conforming
with
with
my
understanding
of
where
things
are,
and
I
would
absolutely
support
new
construction
and
major
retrofits
that
already
triggered
the
jurisdiction
of
planning.
You
know
aac,
planning
and
and
and
planning.
So
I
would
support
I.
I
would
definitely
support
that.
C
I
think
we've
got
a
path
forward,
at
least
defined
for
retrofitting,
which
is
public
education,
outreach
and
and
providing
some
funding
to
the
public
for
it.
B
It
seems
to
me
like,
if
we're
still
talking
about
zoning
code,
new
construction
guidelines
and
curfews
would
should
fit
into
code
education
and
outreach,
and
funds
for
retrofit
would
be
that
the
sustainability
would
would
run
so.
Not
not.
All
of
those
would
be
part
of
a
a
code
change.
D
B
B
So
it
looks
like
we're
close
to
agreeing
on
a
recommendation,
not
sure
how
to
summarize
it.
I
think
there
are
four
points.
D
Well,
I
would
say
just
to
sort
of
confirm
what
I
said
is
is
that
these
are
the
guidelines
would
be
an
amendment
to
the
zone.
The
recommendation
to
city
council
is
an
amendment
to
the
guidelines.
That
applies
exactly
where
the
zoning
code
already
applies,
as
director
fagg
just
mentioned,
I.e,
new
construction
and
major.
You
know
major
changes
that
already
trigger
aac
or
or
staff
review,
and
that's
the
existing
provisions,
and
so
that's
where
it
would
apply
just
did
it
as
it
already
applies,
so
we're
replacing
the
the
guidelines.
D
What
would
be
mandatory
for
everybody-
and
you
know
that's
just
something
for
director
to
coordinate
that
that
would
be,
whether
that's
in
the
zone
and
go
to
the
municipal
code,
but
that's
a
a
lighting
curfew,
that's
applicable
to
everybody
all
the
time
and
I'm
fine
with
that.
And
then
the
rest
is
chair.
Clark,
as
you
just
mentioned,
the
education
and
outreach
and
the
funding
are
on
us
as
as
sustainability,
so
that
that
sort
of
summarizes
where
I
think
we
are.
B
And
then
our
sustainability
staff
will
be
responsible
for
coordinating
with
with
planning
on
how
to
deal
with
the
amendment
to
the
to
the
code.
I'm
fine
with
that.
C
Accept
it
so,
with
that
discussion
should,
should
I
table
the
actual
recommendation
in
the
vote
until
next
month,
or
should
I.
D
D
B
And
rob,
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
make
a
friendly
amendment
to
your
motion
and
kind
of
along
the
lines
of
what
I
had
said
before,
perhaps
in
the
recommendation
referencing
the
guidelines
that
you
have
in
the
body
of
the
report.
In
this
case
it
would
just
be
the
two
guidelines,
one
relating
to
nuclear
use
and
then
the
rest
of
it.
The
education
and
the
funding
scholarship
funding
would
be
up
to
the
commission
to
recommend
to
the
office
of
sustainability.
C
B
B
B
C
F
B
Yes
opposed.
B
It
appears
unanimous
that
the
motion
is
passed.
A
A
So,
as
we
can
see
from
the
report
from
the
sustainability
funds,
we
have
paid
out
15
565
dollars.
We
currently
have
reserved
funds
in
the
amount
of
fifteen
thousand
one
hundred.
We
continue
to
receive
inquiries
and
applications
on
a
daily
basis.
The
most
popular
item
seems
to
be
the
electric
leaf
blower
for
the
recycling.
A
So
far,
we've
paid
out
three
thousand
three
hundred
and
two
dollars
and
currently
have
recycling
funds
reserved
in
the
amount
of
3562.
The
outreach
plan
for
the
month
of
april
is
to
target
our
restaurants.
Specifically,
some
of
the
approved
items
would
be
the
sorted
recycling
as
well
as
the
reusable
food
wear.
So
that
will
be
the
the
target
for
the
scholarship
program
for
next
month.
B
A
There
have
not
been
any
requests
since
the
last
commission
meeting
that
fell
into
a
gray
area
that
needed
to
be
brought
up
for
discussion.
Okay,.
B
Are
there
any
questions
on
in
the
list.
D
A
That
is
correct.
I
did
double
check
that
earlier
today
and
we
do
not
have
any
takers
on
that.
Yeah.
Okay,.
D
A
Yes,
so
we
have
our
next
electronic
waste
shredding
and
recycling
event
coming
up
on
april
17th,
which
is
a
saturday
it
will
be
held
here
at
city
hall.
This
is
exciting
because
so
many
were
postponed
due
to
covid,
so
we've
already
been
receiving
positive
feedback
from
the
community.
A
We
ask
for
commissioners
to
volunteer
an
hour
of
their
time.
For
this
event,
patrick
has
been
very
clear.
He
wants
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
still
safe
and
you
know
we
are
mandating
that
covet
protocols
are
in
order
and
those
participating
in
the
event
must
wear
masks
we're
asking
folks
to
put
the
materials
in
the
rear
of
their
vehicle
so
that
it
is
contactless.
A
A
Let
staff
know
via
email,
whatever
you
feel
most
comfortable
with,
but
please
mark
it
on
your
calendar
and
share
with
those
that
you
know
that
this
event
is
coming
up
middle
of
next
month.
A
With
wayfinding
directing,
we've
also
asked
the
police
department
to
assist
as
well
during
that
first
hour
and
a
half
or
so
of
the
event,
which
is
the
most
popular
time
frame.
B
A
Yes,
I've
been
working
with
jeannie
over
at
the
library.
This
is
something
that
the
commission
has
donated
to
in
previous
years.
However,
not
in
2020,
the
library
is
asking
for
the
sustainability
commission
to
donate
500,
which
would
be
used
to
purchase
four
bicycles
as
well
as
helmets,
one
for
each
age
category,
and
this
is
to
promote
their
summer
reading
program.
A
Request
is
for
five
hundred
dollars
and
they
did
receive
donations
from
the
commission
in
years.
2019,
2018
and
chair
clark,
correct
me:
was
it
also
in
2017
as
well.
B
A
The
age
categories,
the
first
one,
is
preschool
and
kindergarten.
Second
age
category
is
elementary
grades.
One
through
five
third
category
is
grades,
six
through
twelve
and
then
the
final
category
as
adult
okay
again
for
the
summer
reading
program.
G
A
She
did
not
clarify
that.
B
The
way
it
works
is
they
encourage
mostly
children
to
to
read
during
a
certain
period
during
this
quarter
and
for
every
book
they
read,
they
get
a
raffle
ticket
and
the
tickets
are
for
well,
the
prizes
primary
prizes
are
bicycles.
I
think
the
sustainability
aspect
of
that
is
your
favorite
topic,
jim
okay,
but
the
friends
of
the
library
has
donated
other
items
as
well
and
in
the
past,
through
2019.
B
There
was
an
event
in
july
where
our
children
and
their
parents
were
there
and
then
the
waffle
was
the
raffle
took
place.
I
I
participated,
I
think
I
participated
three
times.
I
think
david
was
there
once
it's
really
fun
of
that.
F
B
A
And
we
can
certainly
ask
we
could
certainly
bring
this
forward
to
the
april
meeting
as
well
and
request
clarification
on
how
is
sustainability
tied
in
and
I
know
in
previous
years
a
report
has
been
provided.
So
we
can
certainly
request
that
as
well
before
taking
a
vote.
E
B
If
nobody
objects,
I'd
like
to
have
a
motion
this
evening,
500.
B
So
then
we
could
pass
that
information
on
to
jeannie
anybody
willing
to
make
a
motion.
B
B
So
so
we
have
a
motion
because
we're
ready
to
vote
on
all
in
favor
of
providing
the
500.
Please
say
yes,.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
again
originally,
when
I
was
asked
to
do
the
mock-up
for
this.
A
This
is
for
the
proposed
plaque
for
the
new
downtown
park
earth
day,
of
course,
is
next
month
on
april
22nd,
in
speaking
with
with
planning,
the
opening
date
of
the
downtown
park,
is
going
to
be
july,
so
this
would
not
be
appropriate
to
install
at
the
downtown
park
at
this
time.
This
is
something
that
could
certainly
be
slated
for
earth
day
2022
or
if
the
commission
would
like
us
to
proceed
with
the
plaque
and
select
a
different
location
other
than
the
downtown
park.
F
But
I'm
gonna
go
back
to
my
idea
of
trying
to
make
earth
day
more
of
a
educational
event
if
we
could
somehow
get
either
the
sun,
the
the
desert,
sun
or
any
of
our
local
news
channels
to
work
with
us
to
kind
of
just
create
a
buzz
about
earth
day.
I
think
it's
big
in
schools,
but
after
you
get
out
of
the
sixth
or
seventh
grade
it
just
sort
of
disappear,
at
least
well.
I
don't
know
about
today.
Maybe
kids
are
more
concerned,
but
I
don't
think
most
adults
even
know
when
earth
day
is.
A
A
F
A
That's
a
great
suggestion
and
something
we
can
certainly
look
into.
B
And
last
year
we
had
we
were
planning
to
coordinate
some
events
with
the
cultural
center
megan
in
particular,
and,
of
course,
everything
that
was
planned.
Everything
fell
apart
apart,
patrick
did
a
few
things
online,
but
it
was
harder
to
get
people
involved,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
things
planned
last
year,
films
in
particular
with
the
with
the
cultural
center,
so
that
that
might
be
something
you
could
check
tracy's
to
talk
to
megan
and
if
she's
thought
about
anything.
Of
course,
it's
getting
pretty
close
as
well.
A
So
from
from
patrick's
research
and
my
research,
there
aren't
any
events
planned
at
this
time.
I
think
we're
really
on
the
cusp
of
that
reopening
that
we're
all
so
eager
about.
A
B
A
Them
so
is
the
direction
to
to
take
this
in
a
direction
of
partnership
with
other
agencies
contacting
desert,
sun
and
local
news
channels,
creating
a
buzz
contacting
the
tribe
for
involvement,
cultural
center,
etc.
G
All
right,
so
this
came
up
from
the
last
month.
I
mentioned
that
the
bike
subcommittee
had
met
and
this
idea
had
surfaced,
so
we
thought
we'd
flush
it
out
a
little
bit
and
what
was
sent
out
to
you
guys
before
this
with
the
packet
was
our
our
attempt
at
doing
that.
It's
about
six
or
seven
pages,
and
I
apologize
the
one
that
won
out
had
a
few
typos
in
it.
G
So
we
have
a
newer
one
that
where
the
temples
have
been
fixed,
but
we
didn't
really
feel
like
it's
substantive
enough
to
send
that
to
everybody.
But
the
genesis
of
this
was
the
original
bike
subcommittee
was
pushing
hard
to
have
bike
paths
on
the
indian
canyon
and
they
weren't
successful.
We
ended
up
with
cheryl's
and
that
street's
way
too
crazy
to
ride
your
bikes
with
sharo's
there.
But
subsequent
to
that,
in
my
conversations
with
councilmember
woods,
he
brought
up
to
my
attention
that
we're
now
now
that
indian
canyon's
in
place.
G
We
now
have
four
southbound
lanes
and
two
northbound
lanes
through
the
downtown
business
corridor
with
which
gives
us
the
possibility
to
sacrifice
one
of
those
lanes
and
use
it
for
a
two-way
bike.
Cap.
Subsequent
to
that,
we
also
learned
that
our
biggest
greenhouse
gas
reduction
goals
are
all
coming
from
automobiles
and
the
only
way
to
successfully
address
those
is
to
reduce
the
number
of
car
trips.
G
So
we're
starting
to
see
a
number
of
cities
spend
a
lot
more
time
and
effort
and
on
bike
lanes
and
adding
more
bike
lanes
and
encouraging
cartridge.
Now,
when
I
say
bike
lanes,
I
also
want
you
to
remember
that
there's
been
a
huge
increase
in
bicycling,
but
as
well,
there's
been
electric
bikes
and
there's
also
a
traffic
that
you
want
to
keep
off
of
sidewalks
such
as
electric
scooters,
electric
wheelchairs
and
other
higher
speed
electrical
devices.
G
That
would
be
perfect
for
a
bike
path,
so
we
try
to
suss
out
some
of
the
goals
in
here
in
the
first
or
the
second
page.
We
address
merchant
access
and
we
think
including
more
people
downtown
on
foot
and
on
bicycle,
allows
more
people
to
quickly
get
to
stores
and
restaurants.
We
kind
of
address
that
a
little
bit
we
address
safety.
G
Definitely
we
know
that
slowing
down
traffic
vastly
reduces
the
number
of
fatalities
and
the
number
of
injuries.
If
we
were
to
add
a
couple
of
bike
lanes,
it
would
have
the
effect
of
slowing
down
traffic
because
it
would
limit
some
of
the
traffic
and
it
would
reduce
speeds.
The
big
one
that
some
of
our
members
in
the
subcommittee
thought
was
improving
the
downtown
environment.
G
I
think
the
fewer
cars
that
are
downtown
in
a
in
a
resort
town
in
the
pedestrian
area
and
the
more
bicycles
they
are,
the
more
enjoyable
it
is,
the
less
traffic
noise
there
is
and
the
less
more
comfortable
people
feel
walking
on
sidewalks
when
there's
not
a
lot
of
high-speed
cars
traveling
up
until
down
through
town
sustainability
goals.
I
already
mentioned
you
know.
The
only
way
to
get
at
some
of
these
cartridge
productions
is
is
to
encourage
bike
trips
and
that's
what
this
does.
D
G
Again
I
slightly
touched
on
and
that's
that
a
lot
of
low
income
and
some
of
the
disabled
people
definitely
don't,
will
have
automobiles
and
will
do
rely
on
bicycles
and
other
forms
of
non-motorized
transportation
to
get
around.
G
So
I
mentioned
some
funding,
ideas
and
measure
a
funding
and
also
some
things
that
are
coming
up
with
what's
happening
in
the
federal
level
for
funding
for
bicycles,
and
then
we
had
a
bunch
of
pages
in
here
we
looked
at
existing
conditions,
there's
a
lot
of
information,
that's
already
in
the
general
plan
and
encouraging
just
such
this
such
a
proposal.
G
The
plan,
as
it
stated,
is
in
two
phases
and
one
it
would
be
from
a
bike
path
from
alejo
to
ramon
in
the
downtown
area
in
palm
canyon,
but
the
other
one
from
ramon.
All
the
way
to
the
end
of
palm
canyon
actually
is
already
in
both
the
seabag
plan,
motorized
plan
that
was
adopted
in
2011
by
the
city
and
that
bike
plan
was
already
adopted
by
the
city,
but
it
hasn't
been
acted
upon.
So
the
phase
two
would
be
to
encourage
something.
G
That's
already
in
the
plan,
so
I
talked
about
you
know
how
these
goals
and
policies
occur
in
land
use,
elements
and
circulation
elements
throughout
all
these
other
documents.
And
then
the
last
thing
I
said
is
project
design.
So
there
is
a
resource
that
I
discovered,
and
that
was
the
national
association
of
city
transportation
officials.
They
have
a
whole
book
on
building
bike
paths
and
yes,
a
lot
of
cities
have
built
two-way
bike
paths
on
one-way
streets
and
the
picture
on
the
bottom
kind
of
shows
exactly
how
it
would
work.
G
They
address
all
the
questions
that
would
incur
that,
but
I
think
the
next
step
here
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
have
let
you
guys
kind
of
think
about
this
for
a
while
and
maybe
at
our
next
meeting,
perhaps
a
vote
on
whether
the
commission
recommends
this
proposal
or
not.
But
I
think
what
we're
looking
for
is
a
recommendation
for
the
commission
and
I
think
the
next
step
would
be
to
take
it
to
traffic
and
engineering.
Some
of
the
city
council
members
have
already
asked
me.
G
Joe
montalvo
has
seen
it,
but
if
it
came
from
the
sustainability
commission
endorsed
at
first
it'd
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
kind
of
bring
it
to
him
and
maybe
to
discuss
it
a
little
bit
with
some
of
the
council
members
before
we
put
force
on
the
proposal
at
a
higher
level.
So
I'm
happy
to
answer
some
questions
now
or
I'm
happy
to
answer
your
questions
over
the
next.
You
know
a
couple
of
weeks
before
we
bring
it
up
again.
Does
anyone
have
questions
for
me.
D
Yeah
check
clark
I,
as
you
still
have
some
quiet
questions.
Thank
you,
commissioner
flanagan
for
this.
D
So
a
couple
of
questions
for
for
next
month,
as
they
really
would
be
helpful
to
come
up
with
some
form
of
estimate
of
costs
for
each
different
phase,
because
that
would
sort
of
indicate
you
know
what
funding
is
available
and
if
perhaps
you
could
have
a
chance
to
obviously
there's
cbag
to
coordinate
with
katie
and
benjamin
to
see
what
c-vac
funds
may
be
available
and
also
do
some
research
on
what
dot
funds
may
be
available
since
the
secretary
of
transportation
has
been
to
palm
springs,
so
that
may
help
us
see
what
will
be
available.
D
That
would
be
one
question
and
then
that's
a
comment
and
then
two
questions
is:
how
would
the
bike
lane
fit
in
with
the
plam
canyon,
dining
parklist?
If
city
council
continues
them
postcove
it
or
you
know
after
today,
when
the
red,
you
know
we're
in
red
tier,
hopefully
we'll
see
they're
starting
tomorrow.
I
don't
know
whether
those
parklets
will
continue.
I
think
they're
in
the
I
don't
think
they're
in
the
lane.
D
I
think
that,
or
I
think
they're
in
the
parking
area,
but
that's
just
a
question
of
sort
of
coordinating
with
traffic
and
engineering
if
city
would,
if
city
intends
to
continue
those
how
those
would
work
and
then
just
a
question
of
for
south
palm
canyon.
Is
that
just
to
the
curve
is
that
to
mary
canyon?
Is
that
to
the
all
the
way
to
the
toll
house?
So
you
just
clarify
because
obviously
they're
you
know
their
costs
associated
further
south
that
you
go.
D
There
was
a
lot
of
controversy,
as
you
were
called
commissioner
flanagan.
The
south
palm
canyon
lane
from
bellardo
to
to
murray
canyon,
was
proposed,
but
was
not
ultimately
accepted
by
city
council.
So
there'll
need
to
be
a
lot
of
neighborhood
outreach
on
that
on
that,
but
you
can
just
clarify
what
how
long,
how
far
southbound
canyon
would
go
to
in
your
proposal.
G
Okay,
well,
so
so
three
of
these,
the
first
one
is
great.
I
appreciate
that
david
estimated
cost.
I
think
I'll
probably
look
at
what
other
people
spent
and
kind
of
get
an
idea
with
that
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
get
a
you
know.
These
things
are
pretty.
I
realize
these
things
are
pretty
expensive
and
as
far
as
dining
parklets,
I
will
definitely
mention
that
the
way
I
see
it
at
the
lane
sort
of
stays
there.
G
The
way
to
the
curb
would
seem
the
most
effective
way
to
do
it,
so
it
would
be
from
the
curve
southbound
going
forward
and
that's
what
seabag
has
already
talked
about
and
that's
what's
in
the
general
plan
right
now,
so
we
could
certainly
revisit
that.
I
mean
and
yeah
you're
right.
It
would
take
some
coordination,
but
I
think
the
thing
that's
exciting
about
that
is:
it
ties
together,
three
different
bike
paths,
so
it
ties
together
the
bellardo
bike
path.
G
It
ties
together
the
the
laverne
bike
path
and
also
at
tyska,
the
murray
canyon,
like
that,
so
it's
a
great
way
to
sort
of
get
everybody
over
to
the
sea.
It's
a
cv
link
as
well,
since
it
ties
so
many
together
so
and
I
realize
yeah,
there's,
there's
some
issues
there
with
them
and
it's
some
ongoing
history
with
the
south
palm
canyon
stuff.
So,
but
I
definitely
will
address
these
other
three
things.
So
thanks
david
yeah.
D
Then
that
would
go
so
we'd
go
to
basically
to
connect
here
to
murray
canyon
and
the
additional
feature
that
you
can
mention
that
we
didn't
have
you
know
a
couple
of
years
ago.
Is:
we've
got
oswald,
canyon
and
people
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
using
that,
so
I
would
recommend,
with
oswald
canyon
being
preserved
and
the
lincoln
trail
being
really
popular.
You
know
as
a
place
for
people
to
go
out
and
hike,
and
so
this
is
a
sustainable
way
to
actually
get
to
to.
G
D
Thank
you.
I
was
about
to
suggest
that
I
was
about
to
suggest
exactly
that,
and
that
would
be
a
good
project.
You
know
and
and
and
sort
of
independent
of
the
lake.
Perhaps-
and
perhaps
some
funds
can
be
rustled
on
the
tree
for
our
you
know,
for
our
budget
for
the
coming
fiscal
year
to
provide
some
bike
racks
down
there,
because
I
think
that
would
be.
That
would
be
a
a
good
message.
We're.
C
I
I
support
all
of
this
with
respect
to
licking
trail
it
we,
we
are
not
promoting
oswit
canyon
trail
anymore,
now
that
we
own
it,
and
the
reason
is
that
we
want
to
protect
the
sheep
that
are
on
the
property.
F
G
G
B
You
had
mentioned
or
suggested
that
the
commission
take
a
vote
on
this
next
month
and
then
go
and
talk
to
joel
montalvo
in
engineering.
B
There's
a
lot
of
really
detailed
information
in
this
document,
and
I
think
I
I
would
suggest
that
we
get
some
feedback
from
engineering
first
on
how
it
might
be
implemented
before
we
take
a
vote
on
something.
That's
this
specific.
G
G
I
agree
I
will,
if
that's
what
we
would
like
to
do,
I'll
gladly
discuss
with
them.
First,
my
concerns
are
traffic.
Engineering
historically
has
not
been
very
friendly
to
bicycle
measures,
but
you
know
they've
got
a
different
marching
order,
so
I
don't
want
the
the
cart
to
drive
the
horse
or
whatever
the
analogy
metaphor
is
here,
but
maybe
getting
some
cursory
review
and
analysis
from
them
would
be
helpful.
So.
B
B
G
One
of
the
things
I
asked
is
for
patrick
to
see
if
he
could
get
a
hold
of
that
nacto
guidebook
because
there's
a
whole
section,
there's
all
there's
a
whole
book
on.
How
do
you
plan?
You
know
bicycle
paths
to
see
if
we
don't
already
have
it,
it
seems
like
it'd
be
useful
for
us
to
have,
but
that
might
provide
a
lot
of
guidance
and
information
for
both
us
and
for
engineering
if
they
don't
already
have
it.
But
I'll
talk
to
patrick
about
that
when
he
gets
back.
B
D
Okay,
a
lot
lots
going
on
all
right.
First
cec
energy
commission
is
continuing
to
work
on
the
2022
energy
code
has
now
posted
draft
code,
language
heat
pump,
water
heaters,
electric
heat
pump,
water
heaters
will
be
required
on
the
baseline
for
new
single
family
residences
and
climate
zone
15,
where
palm
springs
is
located
and
pre-wiring
will
also
be
required
in
new
single
family
homes
for
battery
storage
space
heaters,
if
they're
not
installed,
combine
cooktop
ovens
and
clothes,
dryers
and
solar
panels
and
battery
storage
will
be
required
from
any
commercial
building.
D
So
the
code
is
taking
another
couple
further
leaps
for
the
next
cycle:
many
cities
on
a
parallel
track.
Many
cities
continue
to
propose
reach
codes
for
energy
commission
approval.
The
reach
code
seems
just
issue
the
new
cost
effect
on
the
study
on
residential
retrofits
I'll
prepare
a
data
set
on
possible
energy
efficiency
measures
for
palm
springs,
using
information
from
the
new
study
and
the
reach
codes
web-based
explorer.
I
did
another
round
of
beta
testing.
Last
week.
It
provided
substantial
feedback
on
conference
calls
and
emails
with
the
development
team
earlier
today.
D
Next
is
the
cpuc
we'll
be
considering
a
new
joint
regional
energy
network
for
the
inland
empire?
Seabag
is
one
of
the
lead
three
league
co-sponsors
and
the
business
plan.
That's
on
file
with
the
cpuc
mentioned
specifically
mentions
the
energy
code
training
sessions
that
our
commission
co-sponsored
with
cmag.
So,
while
we're
not
officially
cited,
our
work
was
recognized
in
the
business
plan.
D
Second
on
cpuc
is
that
they
are
will
are
considering
changes
to
the
net
energy
metering
rules
for
solar
customers,
I'm
honoring
the
proceeding
will
report
back
when
the
cpuc
issues
a
decision
later
this
year.
There's
a
good
explanatory
article
with
comments
from
the
ceo
of
renova
energy.
That's
just
been
posted
online
in
the
desert
sun
and
it
should
be
in
the
print
edition
in
the
next
few
days.
D
Included
in
your
meeting
package
is
the
letter
from
mayor
holstadge
to
homeowners,
who
may
be
eligible
for
the
grid
alternatives
program
to
install
solar
panels
on
affordable
housing
units
thanks
patrick
and
tracy,
for
their
assistance
in
getting
the
letter
signed
grid
alternatives
will
handle
the
mailing
using
office
of
sustainability
envelopes
that
they
just
picked
up
from
tracy
yesterday
and
that's
a
project
under
the
auspices
of
dce
that
they're
also
doing
with
cathedral
city
and
palm
desert.
The
ab-1236
fast
track,
ev
charger
ordinance.
D
Those
checklist
materials
have
now
been
posted
on
the
city
website
and
the
2017
policy
that
was
superseded
by
the
implementing
ordinance
the
council
passed
earlier
this
year.
I
have
been
removed
to
thanks
to
tracy
for
liaising
with
the
building
division
on
that
and
finally,
I
reviewed
the
draft
american
wind
energy
association,
wind
energy
success
story
and
will
coordinate
with
patrick
and
tracy
on
next
steps
and
that's
the
new
york
minute
version
of
the
report.
A
lot
going
on
right
now.
A
At
the
time
of
the
preparation
of
this
agenda,
the
single-use
plastic
food
wear
and
plastic
straw
was
being
brought
to
city
council
at
the
march
25th
council
meeting.
It
has
since
been
moved
to
april
8th
for
the
battery
recycling
project.
That
was
one
of
the
first
items
I
was
able
to
work
on
and
we
were
able
to
collect
and
ship
three
full
battery
containers.
A
So
far
in
the
month
of
march
I'll
be
going
to
the
animal
shelter
tomorrow.
Apparently
they
have
a
lot
of
batteries
for
recycling,
so
we'll
see
what
we
can
fill
up
there.
A
Let's
see
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
signage,
and
this
is
for
the
subcommittee's
direction
and
and
their
voting,
but
wanted
to
share
with
the
commission
the
two
renditions,
both
a
vertical
and
horizontal
signage,
with
the
don't,
recycle
and
and
recycle
messaging
for
the
downtown
trash
cans.
A
With
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
of
course
that's
going
to
be
on
the
march
25th
city
council
agenda,
as
we
discussed
earlier
this
evening,
neighborhood
earth
day
challenge.
There
are
no
updates.
A
We
are
continuing
to
to
work
with
the
sb
1383
planning,
myself
and
patrick,
had
a
meeting
with
palm
springs
disposal
last
week.
Those
meetings
are
continuous
and
happen
every
other
week
in
terms
of
the
preparation
and
implementation,
and
it's
quite
a
large
project.
A
A
local
community
member
named
haley
preston
is,
is
working
with
cal
recycle
on
a
composting
grant,
so
more
details
will
be
shared
as
they
are
flushed
out,
but
again
it
was
pretty
well
attended
by
community
members
and
with
the
sustainability
scholarships
we
we
discussed
those
as
well
continuing
to
receive
inquiries
and
applications
pretty
much
on
a
daily
basis.
C
Just
a
comment
to
tracy,
so
this
is
another
iteration
that
I'm
looking
at
from
our
last
subcommittee
meeting
and-
and
I
think
this
looks
fantastic-
I'm
really
impressed
with
this
one.
A
Perfect
so
some
of
the
things
that
were
distracting-
where
was
the
the
red
circular?
No
symbol,
wasn't
making
sense.
A
So
we
removed
that
making
sure
that
it
still
is
representative
of
the
recycling
colors,
especially
with
the
sb
1383
rolling
out,
and
those
colors
are
green,
blue
and
gray
and
again
trying
to
use
visual
imagery
to
be
more
prominent,
as
opposed
to
words
so
that
it
hopefully
doesn't
have
language
barriers,
because
there
is
more
than
just
english
and
spanish
in
terms
of
languages
so
going
heavy
on
the
imagery,
as
opposed
to
the
words.
B
Thank
you,
tracy.
The
next
subcommittee
is
world
environment
day
jennifer's.
Not
here
sandra.
Do
you
have
anything
to
report.
E
Nothing,
nothing
updated
from
jennifer
who's,
pretty
much
been
handling
this
last
year
we
were
poised.
We
had
the
full
support
of
princess
karen
with
the
un
jane
fonda
lily
coblin,
all
of
that,
so
unfortunately,
that
had
to
be
canceled,
but
this
year
other
than
the
arch
competitions
and
the
prizes.
E
For
that,
I
would
hope
that,
with
or
and
maybe
tracy
you
can
help
us
with
this,
as
carl
was
describing
for
earth
day,
if
we
could
at
least
do
maybe
like
a
week
building
up
with
local
media
about
about
world
environmental
day
and
pollinators
and
all
of
those
type
of
things
that
there's
certainly
a
few
minutes
worth
of
meat
news
media
for
five
days,
leading
up
to
that
and
getting
people
to
be
planting
and
milkweed
and
see.
E
If
we
can
coordinate
with
some
of
some
of
the
other
agencies,
then
it
wouldn't
be
a
lost
opportunity,
because
I
hate
to
see
two
years
go
by
where
there
isn't
public
involvement
outside
of
the
students
which
are
essential
for
for
this.
For
this
for
this
project,
but
people
should
know
and
and
know
what
the
know
what
the
students
are
doing
with
their
art.
So
yes,
and
any
help,
if
we
can
get
media
on
this,
it
would
be
wonderful.
A
So
there's
a
formal
press
release
that
was
drafted,
but
then
also
utilizing
social
media
and
contacting
television
media
with
more
friendly
graphics.
You
know
promoting
the
environmental,
education
collaborative
art
contest
and,
of
course,
this
commission
being
a
sponsor
of
the
event.
So
the
the
work
is
in
is
in
process
on.
F
B
One
media
source
that
we
used
in
the
past
was
the
eye
on
the
desert
on
channel
three.
I
know
jennifer
has
been
on
a
couple
of
times
and
patrick
was
on
promoting
world
environment
day.
B
Thank
you.
The
next
subcommittee
is
ad
hoc
subcommittee
on
walkability
and
pedestrian
planning.
I
think
most
there
we've
already
talked
about
with
regard
to
the
walkability
master
plan
and
safe
route
routes
to
school
virtual,
walk
audits.
Is
there
anything
else
that
can
be
added
to
that?
A
If
I
could
just
add,
we
did
add
a
page
onto
the
city
website
under
the
sustainability
portion-
and
it
is
the
page-
is
entitled
pedestrian
safety.
So
if
you
have
a
desire
to
have
more
information
about
it
or
to
share
it,
I
suggest
just
sharing
that
page,
as
that
page
has
the
flyer
all
of
the
different
information
embedded
into
it,
so
that
it's
easy
to
just
forward
that
one
page.
B
And
that
page
really
is
excellent.
It
it
does
show
by
my
city
council
districts
the
areas
of
concern
that
have
already
been
brought
up
and
also
provides
opportunities
to
for
people
to
bring
up
other
concerns,
so
that.
B
C
Yeah
we
have
just.
Let
me
make
one
quick
additional
comment:
I've
been
reaching
out
to
our
fellow
sustainability
commissions
in
the
other
desert
cities
about
this
issue,
because
it
doesn't
make
much
sense
for
us
to
to
move
forward
without
them
and
found
out
that
the
city
of
rancho
mirage
has
begun
work
on
a
city-wide
lighting
ordinance
and
I
don't
have
any
details
on
it
yet
but
david.
I
will
explore
that
now
and
to
see
what
they're
doing
about
this
particular
issue
of
retrofitting.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
rob.
The
next
is
ad
hoc
subcommittee
on
strategic
planning
and
general
plan
update.
I
know
patrick
had
intended
to
have
a
meeting
soon
probably
will
be
sometime
in
april,
but
we'll
stand
by
for
that,
and
then
next
is
water.
Con
conservation.
D
Okay,
a
couple
of
things.
First,
I
finished
last
week
the
virtual
water
accounts
academy
and
I
recommended
as
a
good
overview
the
complicated
water
issues
that
are
facing
the
valley.
If
it's
virtual,
it's
rather
easy
to
attend.
D
I
think
chair
clark,
you
had
done
it
in
person,
so
that
was
a
good
program
at
last
thursday's
city
council
meeting
mayor
halstich
mentioned
that
palm
springs
would
participate
in
the
mayor's
challenge
for
water
conservation,
which
is
next
month
and
residents
are
asked
to
take
a
four-step
conservation
pledge
on
behalf
of
their
city
cities
with
the
highest
percentage
of
residents
who
take
the
challenge,
can
win
and
patrick
is
working
with
ewa
staff
to
publicize
the
program
with
a
psa
involving
mayor,
holstadge
and
dwa
president
bloomer,
at
this
morning's
dwa
board
meeting,
I
gave
an
update
on
the
airport
demonstration
garden
based
on
the
information
and
patrick
staff
report
that
tracy
mentioned
earlier
in
the
meeting,
and
I
thank
the
board
and
staff
for
their
participation.
D
The
project
dwa
board
extended
its
coveted
fee
waivers
for
another
two
months
and
finally,
dwa
and
his
customers
achieved
in
17
reduction
in
potable
water
consumption
during
february.
Compared
to
the
same
month
in
the
2013
baseline
year,
and
they
are
continuing
to
review
their
water
production
data,
which
is
reported
to
the
state
and
that's
it
on
water
conservation.
F
So
the
ordinance
was
supposed
to
go
to
the
hrc
human
rights
commission
last
month,
but
our
counterpart
did
not
get
it
on
the
agenda
in
time,
so
it
won't
be
addressed
until
next
month
they
meet
the
first
tuesday
or
wednesday
of
the
month.
So
it's
always
before
prior
to
our
meeting,
so
I'll
have
more
information
during
the
april
meeting.
D
Okay,
lots
of
things
going
on
at
dce
as
well.
At
the
february
23rd
meeting
the
adc
board
approved
a
20-year
power
purchase
agreement
with
vesper
energy
for
the
deer,
creek
solar
and
storage
project
located
in
tulare
county
in
the
central
valley
and
more
details
about
the
project
around
the
written
incoming
committee
report,
the
dc
board
meeting
ward
met
again
yesterday
and
most
of
the
meeting
dealt
with
financial
challenges.
D
The
dc
is
facing
resulting
from
a
spike
in
spot
energy
prices
following
the
texas
blackout
last
month,
an
sce
rate
adjustment
that
just
went
into
effect
and
payment
delinquencies
as
a
result,
obviously
of
covet
challenges.
Council
member
coors
will
bring
possible
measures
to
increase
dc
revenues
and
decrease
costs
to
city
council
for
direction.
D
The
board
did
approve
a
70
000
bill
assistance
program
for
dc
customers
who
are
impacted
by
covid
subject
to
approval
of
council
at
that
same
meeting
when
they
go
such
a
council
for
direction
and
includes
bill
credits
for
existing
customers
already
enrolled
in
payment
plans
and
customers
newly
enrolled
in
financial
assistance
or
payment
plans.
D
Finally,
as
noted
in
the
committee
report,
commissioner
miller
stepped
down
from
her
seat
on
the
community
advisory
committee,
folks
on
various
other
sustainability
challenges
that
I
know
she's
working
on,
and
I
wanted
to
thank
her,
unfortunately
he's
not
here
this
evening,
but
I
did
want
to
thank
her
for
her
service
on
the
cac.
D
We
now
have
two
vacancies
for
palm
springs
members,
so
it
is
me
and
commissioner
baker
and
noel
walcren,
and
so
I've
already
liaised
with
council
member
coors
and
patrick
on
publicizing
the
need
for
candidates
for
the
cac
and
practically
they
would
be
from
council
districts.
One
and
four,
because
they're
not
currently
represented
on
the.
B
And
cac
didn't
know
at
the
council
meeting
last
week,
councilmember
gardner
paid
garner
paid
attention
to
that
that
that
it
was
a
desire
to
get
somebody
from
district
1
to
be
on
the
on
the
cac.
So
I
don't
know
if
she's
spoken
to
anybody,
but
she
seemed
to
to
be
interested
in
that
yeah.
D
B
B
Agenda
items
commissioner:
baker.
B
You,
commissioner,
garrett.
E
Yes,
I
had
sent
on
to
you
earlier
and
it
was
too
full
of
an
agenda
tonight
about
some
of
the
developments
that
are
going
on
relating
to
the
salton
sea
surrounding
areas.
I
think
we
should
have
knowledge
and
an
opinion
on
this.
It
involves
lithium,
which
could
be
very
good
for
our
area,
but
we
need
to
be
concerned.
This
is
a
battery
issue
and
also
on
another
note.
Last
week
I
met
erin
brockovich
and
she
is
more
than
happy
to
come
and
help
us
in
any
way
public
speaking
outrage
or
anything.
E
B
Thank
you.
We
will
send
out
the
information
that
you
provided
today
and
put
in
a
possible
agenda
item
for
the
next
meeting.
I'll
contact
you
for
more
specific
direction
on
the
agenda
item.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
that
is
the
end
of
our
agenda.
Our
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
tuesday
april
20th,
and
do
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn
this
meeting?
It's
now
7
12.