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From YouTube: Public Arts Commission | Feb 23, 2022
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Special Meeting of the Palm Springs Public Arts Commission, held February 23rd, 2022
A
B
B
B
D
B
D
D
B
Okay,
great,
so
now
is
the
time
for
public
comment
that
this
time
has
been
set
aside
from
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
public
arts
commission
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
agenda
items
if
the
member
of
the
public
cannot
be
present
later
in
the
meeting
at
the
time.
The
item
is
heard
by
the
commission.
Additionally,
members
of
the
public
may
address
the
commission
on
each
item
listed
on
the
posted
agenda
at
the
time.
Each
item
is
heard.
B
A
A
A
A
I
too
am
in
favor
of
the
mural
for
the
james
jesse
desert
highlander
center.
It's
been
up
for
close
to
20
years,
if
not
more
and
with
restoration,
with
the
proper
work
actually
being
done
by
the
actual
artist.
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
something
great
for
our
community
that
will
last
for
many
more
decades
to
come.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
So
I
just
wanted
to
just
say
a
a
couple
things
to
you
guys.
It
was
really
great
to
be
able
to
go
to
the
the
art
fair
having
it
come
back
to
life
in
palm
springs
the
other
weekend.
It
was
exciting
to
see
some
of
our
artists
and
some
of
our
collectors
and
some
of
our
arts
professionals
in
town
to
actually
see
people
in
person
for
the
first
time,
which
was
amazing.
B
You
know
brainstorm
about
projects
that
could
be
upcoming,
that
we
could
think
about
doing
or
things
you
know
where
we
want
the
valley
to
go
when
we
have
such
a
great
resource
in
our
of
our
artists
in
the
valley.
So
you
know
I,
I
think
arts
professionals
in
the
area
really
value
our
local
artists
and
want
to
really
keep
promoting
them
and
creating
great
projects
that
maybe
use
artists
instead
of
bringing
people
from
out
local
artists
instead
of
bringing
people
from
out
of
area
when
possible.
B
B
So
on
that
note
I
to
to
think
about
what's
going
what's
in
the
pit,
it
doesn't
look
like
there's
going
to
be
any
construction
in
the
pit
for
a
number
of
years.
So
when
we
originally
planned
the
art
and
the
pit,
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
just
you
know
a
couple
years
max
that
we
would
be
able
to
have
access
to
that
area
to
activate
the
downtown
space.
B
But
you
know,
depending
on
you
know,
working
with
the
owner
of
the
property,
we
may
be
able
to
think
about
having
some
projects
go.
Go
there
longer.
So
that
does
relate
to
one
of
our
items,
but
that's
just
to
let
you
know
you
know
it's
a
normal
thing
in
palm
springs.
Development
projects
take
forever
sometimes
to
build,
and
they
don't
start
necessarily
when
people
wanted
to
start
them.
So
so
that
has
affected
the
pit
downtown.
B
To
look
back
over
our
past
few
years-
and
you
know,
there's
been
this-
I
keep
hearing
that
there
isn't.
You
know,
communication,
and
I
know
on
our
end
that
we
do
hold
these
meetings
and
have
multiple
multiple
meetings
and
we
we
do
really
communicate
to
the
council
what
we
would
like
to
do
and
what
our
programming
needs
are
and
what
we
would
like
to
pursue.
And
then,
over
the
years
we
make
presentations
to
the
council.
B
We
we
go
every
year
and
give
like
a
year
and
report
to
the
council
and
and
when
we
turned
into
covid
and
kind
of
turned
our
year
around
and
started
doing
our
grant
program.
That
was
a
long
study
project
that
we
had
talked
about.
So
we
had
talked
about
it
for
months
and
months
and
months
we
had
voted
on
it
a
number
of
times
and
then
in
our
june
meeting
in
in
2020.
B
So
I
really
would
like
the
council
and
staff
to
maybe
go
back
to
that
meeting
or
go
back
to
those
minutes
and
really
understand
that
the
communication
has
flowed
from
the
public
arts
commission
and
to
hear
in
in
public
forums.
Information.
That's
not
correct,
or
you
know
just
because
you
say
something
does
not
mean
it's
true.
B
You
know
talking
about
the
bogart
statue
and
that
you
know
the
public
arts
commission,
you
know,
has
decided
not
to
weigh
in
or
anything
not
like
that,
which
has
never
been
the
case.
You
know
you
hear
other
commissioners
say
things
in
other
meetings
in
the
and
things
are
never
corrected,
so
I
just
really
want
you
know
the
the
city
city,
government
and
the
public
at
large
to
know
that
we
are
committed
to
providing
any
advice
that
the
city
council
wants
from
us.
B
We
we
cannot
always
give
advice
if,
if
it's
not
asked
for
and
we
are
dedicated
to
creating
dynamic
and
engaging
community-spirited
public
arts
in
the
city
of
palm
springs-
and
I
know
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
all
the
commissioners,
but
I
know
that
the
from
what
the
the
entire
commission
has
talked
about
at
our
meetings
over
the
past
year.
I
think
they
feel
the
same
way
and
would
really
want
that
acknowledged.
You
know,
because
we
work
really
hard.
B
This
is
a
volunteer
job.
We
spend
a
lot
of
hours
on
it,
a
lot
of
brainstorming,
research,
etc,
etc.
So
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
the
the
council
and
the
city
staff
really
values
us
as
a
commission,
but
also
values
all
of
the
commissions
of
the
city.
They
receive
an
amazing
amount
of
talent
and
dedication
and
work
from
the
commissions.
B
It's
me
what
makes
palm
springs
distinctive
and
it's
a
it's
a
value
added
to
the
community,
so
that
is
kind
of
my.
What
I
wanted
to
say,
I
just
want
to
you,
know,
knock
down
some
things
that
keep
happening
in
other
meetings
and
hearing
in
in
that
things
that
aren't
true,
and
I
just
wanted
to
end
on
a
on
a
really
positive
note
for
the
commission
and
value.
B
You
know
all
of
the
work
that
each
commissioner
does
and
and
the
commission
as
a
whole,
so
we've
done
amazing
work
for
the
city
I
at
least
since
I've
been
on
the
commission
since
2018.
I
know
I
know
what
we've
done
and
prior
to
that.
The
commission
did
amazing
work
as
well.
So
that
is
my
comment
today
and
I
would
like
to
move
on
to
f
f1.
B
B
It's
a
specific
project,
so
we
can
talk
about
it
later,
but
so
that
would
and
and
the
library
is
not
a
historic
site
which
I
didn't
realize,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
deal
with
historic
site
issues
with
that,
so
they
are
really
interested
in
doing
a
project
and
their
new
library
is
not
going
to
be
ready
for
a
number
of
years.
So
it
would
be
at
this
library
and
then
the
last
thing
is,
if
you
guys
would
like
to
change
our
meeting.
B
C
C
Maybe
we
could
have
one
or
two
artists.
Initially,
I
suggested
tyson,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
tyson.
We
can
come
up
with
some
other
artists
that
we
haven't
used
as
much
in
the
past
because
we
thought
that
would
draw
attention,
but
it's
also
supporting
an
artist,
that's
in
our
community.
So
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there,
the
total
cost
came
to
1800
and
the
picnic
is
going
to
be.
I
believe,
the
end
of
march.
D
Because
yeah,
I
would
like
to
make
motion
because
I
think
it's
a
brilliant
idea
that
moved
forward
with
the
picnic
on
an
informational
level.
I
don't
think
we
should
pursue
using
any
artist
at
this
event.
I
think
it
should
be
just
straight
up
informational,
but
I'll
leave
that
up
to
you,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion.
We
do
approve
the
budget
of
1800
materials
and
supplies
for
ps1
picnic
date.
Given
march
19th,
2022.
B
A
A
This
is
something
for
children
and
one
of
the
key
things
on
their
poster
for
this,
this
picnic
space
painting-
and
maybe
you
do
something
with
face
painting
with
kids.
You
know
that's
public
art
right
there,
and
then
you
end
up
with
these
little
kids,
who
are
embracing
the
idea
of
public
art,
so
something
that
just
engages
families,
because
I
think
that's
really
who
the
target
audience
for
this
is,
but
I
think
it's
I
think
we
should
be
doing
it
as
long
as
it's
focused
and
not
just
creating
litter.
A
B
C
B
C
B
B
Thank
you
very
much,
so
this
is
number
two
is
quick.
Actually,
so
the
museum
loan
has
come
due
and
I'm
working
on
we've
I've
sent
the
original
paperwork.
The
museum
was
great
to
have
the
paperwork
for
us.
So
that's
great.
So
now
it's
gone
to
the
city
attorney
to
work
up
new
loan
paperwork
for
the
items
at
the
airport
and
also
there's
one
item
over
at
the
convention
center.
B
So
the
museum
is
really
short,
staffed
and
they're.
Just
you
know
they
have
a
lot
on
their
plate
this
year,
so
we're
going
to
keep
the
same
art
because
they
really
don't
have
the
bandwidth
to
look
for
new
art,
but
I'm
stressing
to
them
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
at
a
later
date
later
point
that
we
would
like
to
kind
of
start
changing
out
the
art
at
the
airport,
so
which
is
something
you
know
we
will.
B
B
So
on
that
note,
I'm
setting
up
a
a
meeting
for
or
a
you
know,
a
tour
for
the
museum
to
go.
Look
at
their
works
over
at
the
airport
and
our
our
maintenance
subcommittee
is
going
to
is
going
to
go.
Do
that
as
well,
but
I
wanted
to
open
this
up
to
the
whole
commission,
because
we've
asked
and
asked
and
asked
for
years
to
go
over
and
look
at
the
pieces
of
art.
B
B
So
one
and
I'm
throwing
this
out-
and
this
is
the
temporary
art
subcommittee,
so
you
can
think
of
it.
Take
it,
however.
You'd
like
the
city
would
really
like
us
and
we're
I'm
throwing
this
all
of
this
out
for
you
guys
to
think
about
it.
Maybe
we
talk
about
it
more
at
the
next
meeting,
so
we
are
not
responsible
for
the
maintenance
of
rain
maker
for
some
reason.
B
Stripped
by
the
weather
of
the
paint
that
the
city
maintenance
department
has
like
repainted
it
and
and
kept
it
kept
those
metal
parts
going
until
now
and
they're
really
asking
us
to
think
if
we
could
pay
to
restore
the
metal
parts
of
rainmaker
because
it
means
whenever
you
repaint
it
and
clean
it,
it
needs
to
be
taken
apart,
it's
very
expensive,
so
they
would
really
like
an
art
restorer
to
do
it.
So
I
said
I
would
bring
that
back
to
the
commission
and
that's
probably
something
we
should
pay
for.
B
B
So
then
that
leads
to
the
bench
program
and
they
are
concerned
that
some
of
our
original
benches,
which
date
from
20
19,
are
getting
very
looking
very
old.
So
it's
not
it's
not
that
they're!
You
know
it's.
I
guess
they're
fading.
You
know
it's
they're
just
aged,
so
we
kind
of
threw
a
couple
of
ideas
around
that.
B
Maybe
a
bench
has
a
life
of
like
two
years
or
something
like
that,
and
then
we
start
to
phase
them
out,
and
then
I
had
thrown
out
to
her
that
we
could
also
ask
a
business
to
sponsor
a
bench.
So
if,
because
some
businesses
are
so
in
love
with
their
benches,
they
go
and
clean
them,
they
really
they
really
love
them,
and
so
maybe
they
would
want
to
sponsor
a
bench
right.
B
So
that
could
help
with
the
costs
or
help
with
you
know
the
longevity
of
the
benches
so
that
I'm
throwing
those
few
things
out
to
you,
because
the
bench
maintenance
issue
is
go
is
just
going
to
grow
because
we
have
so
many
benches.
So
as
they
get
older
and
older
there's
more.
There
will
be
more
of
an
issue,
so
so
I'm
throwing
that
out
to
you.
So
then,
let's
move
on
to
item
f3,
which
comes
from
our
meetings
with
the
public
arts,
maintenance,
art,
maintenance
subcommittee.
B
So
when
we
we
came
up
with
a
list
of
these
items
to
to
appraise
they
are
a
combination
of
wave
rhythms
which
is
very
which
has
damage
we
want
to
see
how
it
appraises
and
that
will
be
able
to
advise
us
on
how
to
move
forward
with
that
sculpture
and
it's
the
same
with.
Actually
all
all
all
of
these,
so
they've
either
had
damage
there
by
a.
B
D
I
think
we
should
be
able
to
just
take
this
straight
to
a
vote,
because
it's
our
duty
to
maintain
our
public
art
pieces,
and
these
are
ones
that
you
all
have
have
identified
with
issues.
So
it's
important
to
show
the
value,
so
you
can,
with
all
of
that
knowledge,
decide
what
to
do
with
them,
move
them,
restore
them,
repair
them,
etc.
D
F
F
B
So
item
four
is
flag
replacement,
so
taming
of
horses
is
a
piece
that
is
on
loan
to
us
by
christopher
meyers
and
it's
on
loan
for
two
years
and
when
we
originally
approved
this
piece
back
in
december
of
20
20.
I
guess
part
of
this
sculpture
is
that
they
it.
You
know
it's
a
it's
a
sculpture
and
then
it
has
these
flags,
because
it's
the
desert-
and
we
know
wind
and
and
fading-
would
harm
this
piece.
We
asked
for
multiple
flag
replacements
in
case
they
were
needed.
B
B
So
this
approves
the
cost
that
they've
incurred
and
then
I'm
putting
on
here
as
item
5,
a
second
replacement
if
needed,
so
we
just
pre-approve
it
because
they
were
supposed
to
have
three
sets
of
flags.
He
hasn't
gotten
back
to
me
on
that
yet,
but
it
would
be
great
if
we
just
pre-approve
it
so
then
we
don't
need
to
worry
about
it.
D
All
right!
Well,
then,
let
me
make
the
motion
that
we
approve
the
installation
costs
of
the
flags
for
taming
of
the
horses
for
sixteen
hundred
and
ninety
one
dollars
the
we
have
entered
into
the
agreement
to
extend
this
on
loan
until
2023.
So
it's
up
to
us
to
help
maintain
it.
The
flag
has
been
replaced.
They
look,
terrific
and
they've
actually
done
a
better
job
of
installing
this
set
of
flags,
so
I'm
quite
confident
they
will
last
very
well
for
the
next
year.
B
F
Had
a
question
about
the
flags
when
they
were
originally
installed:
weren't
additional
flags
from
my
memory.
There
were
additional
flags
that
came
with
the
horses
and
we
just
talked
about
that
right.
They
were
replaced
once,
but
I
believe
that
there
were
more
than
one
set
of
flags.
There
were
like
three
sets
of
flags
that
came
with
the
first
set
of
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there,
because
that's
what
I
remember-
and
I
just
wanted
to
call
it
intuitive.
B
F
D
D
F
B
F
C
A
B
B
B
B
A
C
B
D
B
B
D
Well,
I'm
of
the
opinion
that
we
should
move
forward
with
keeping
it
lit
because,
especially
now
with
the
merrill
trevor
maryland
being
installed
above
the
pit.
That
is
such
a
focal
point
for
tourist,
draw
that
having
the
lights
on
the
fault
line
and
the
pit
at
night,
especially,
is
so
dynamic
that
I
think
at
least
for
the
period
of
the
next
year.
D
B
B
D
A
A
B
B
And
we
did
a
lot
of
work
on
it
throughout
the
community.
Russell
and
shonda
worked
on
it
as
well
with
community
outreach,
and
then
we
did
a
number
of
neighborhood
grants
for
during
covet,
so
not
obviously
not
as
many
as
we
wanted,
because
everything
was
shut
down
and
the
whole
idea
behind
this
grant
was
that
you
had
a
community
engagement
with
it
within
the
community
that
wanted
it.
So
I
provided
barrett
with
all
of
the
old
materials
and
he
has
updated
it
and.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
tracy.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
to
relaunch
the
community
grant
program
with
an
initial
round
of
grants,
five
five
thousand
dollar
grants,
and
then
you
know
see
how
that
goes
and
then
hopefully
come
back
to
the
commission
to
approve
funding
for
further
rounds
of
grants
in
the
future.
So
we're
not
creating
like
a
timeline
for
applications,
it's
sort
of
an
open-ended
process,
and
once
these
grants
are
approved,
then
we
can
assess
how
to
move
forward
with
an
additional
round.
The
process
would
be
well.
E
First
doing
the
outreach
like
at
the
neighborhood
picnic
coming
up
and
then
other
events,
the
brochure
or
the
the
information
sheet
that
was
attached
to
the
agenda
is
a
draft
of
what
I'm
planning
to
present
at
the
picnic
with
information
about
what
qualifies
and
how
to
apply
the
process
would
essentially
be
the
neighborhood
association
could
fill
out
a
questionnaire.
That's
on
our
website.
F
D
Well,
I
would
just
say,
put
in
my
whole
heart
in
support
of
this,
because
I
have
having
been
the
commissioner
to
work
with
a
few
communities
to
do
temporary
installations
on
our
previous
grant
program.
Little
tuscany,
sunny
dunes
arenas,
it's
very
engaging
both
for
the
community
and
for
us
and
for
the
general
public.
So
thank
you
barrett
and
you
all
for
reprising.
This.
B
B
I
had
the
follow-up
meeting
with
the
city
manager
yesterday
about
this
idea.
We
had
talked
about
it
in
december
that
if
the
engineering
report
came
back
in
a
positive
way
to
then
hold
some
public
outreach,
public,
actual
public
meetings
about
the
mural,
which
we
have
never
done
since
we've
been
on
the
commission-
and
I
don't
think
prior
to
that
as
well,
so
it's
something
that
we've
always
talked
about
wanting
to
do,
but
it's
just
been
kind
of
in
discussion
phase
and
in
in
within
the
maintenance
subcommittee.
B
Everything
seems
to
go
back
to
the
art
maintenance
subcommittee
is
when
we
first
started
talking
about
the
tile.
You
know
doing
the
mural
and
tile.
So
now
is
our
next
step,
and
I
know
the
city
really
wants
to
you
know.
This
is
something
I
proposed
to
the
city
manager
and
he
kind
of
said.
Oh
that's
what
you
know
we
have
been.
What
talking
about
wanting
to
do?
B
Is
you
know
when
you
have
a
big
project
or
have
some
new
idea
to
go
out
into
the
community
and
elicit
comments,
support
and
discussion
and
advice
on
on
these
issues?
So
I
wanted
to
ask
the
commissioners
if
they
would
how
they
feel
about
setting
up
a
date
today.
You
know
you
could,
or
we
can
email
some
dates
that
work,
but
we
could
either
hold
our
meeting,
which
we've
done
in
the
past.
B
You
know
we
did
a
lot
of
these
community
outreach
meetings
in
the
past
pre-covered,
so
we
would
go
to
a
certain
place
that
was
germane
to
our
discussion
and
elicit
the
public
to
come,
join
us
at
the
meeting,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
really
great
discussions
and
interactions
on
subjects
at
those
meetings.
So
we
had
a
number
of
them
at
the
art
museum
we
had
them
at
desert
art
center.
I
know
that
they've
had
them
at
the
convention
center
in
the
past.
B
B
B
D
Yeah
I
would
like
to
just
say:
I
think
this
is
extremely
important
and,
as
we
have
seen
by
the
public
comments
tonight,
there
certainly
is
community
support
for
this
city-wide
support
for
this.
So
for
us
on
the
arts
commission
to
know
exactly
what
the
neighborhood
desire
is.
Do
they
want
the
mural
refinished
exactly
as
it
is
on
a
painted
surface,
would
they
like
to
do
it
in
tile?
D
B
F
F
B
Oh,
that's,
okay,
no,
we've
never
had
a
public
meeting
about
it.
Maybe
mara
went
to
some
community
meeting
or
something
but
there's
no
way.
It's
never
been
agendized
and
we've
never
had
you
know
an
actual
public
meeting.
So
I
think
it's
really
valuable
for
the
community
right
to
like
have
it
on
the
record
in
public,
so
any
everybody
can
participate
if
they
want
to
and
and
and
bring
a
whole
meaningful
discussion
on
it.
So.
F
B
Oh
yeah
and
one
you
know
one
idea
that
the
city
manager
had
yesterday,
which
I
thought
was
great
actually
was
they've,
had
all
of
the
police
chief
meetings
outside.
So
he
said
you
know
you
could
have
it
right
in
front
of
the
mural
so
that
so
that's
an
option
right.
So
we
could
have
it
outside
in
front
of
the
mural
and
that
could
be
like
socially
distanced
and
then
hopefully
we
could
have
it.
You
know
earlier,
so
it's
not
dark.
B
B
So
it's
kind
of
the
consensus
of
you
know
everybody
and
what
we
can
schedule
like
what
spaces
are
available,
but
maybe,
if
we
use
the
march
16th
as
the
date
and
then
we'll
you
know
the
date
that
we
are
going
to
have
our
meeting.
So
we
schedule
it
now
with
a
date
and
then
we
figure
out
where
we
can
have
it.
B
B
C
D
E
F
Have
a
couple
of
things
to
bring
up
because
I
live
in
the
community
the
time
the
community
has
requested
that
meetings
be
after
7
30
because
of
work.
It's
a
working-class
neighborhood,
so
getting
people
at
four
o'clock
on
a
wednesday
will
be
very
difficult
for
from
what
I
understand
the
history
of
living
here.
So
I
would
ask
you
guys
to
take
that
in
consideration.
Ask
the
community
what
would
be
a
good
date
versus
making
a
date
for
them
to
show
up.
B
B
A
Just
email
me
over
a
couple
of
the
dates
that
you
and
times
that
you're
looking
for
I'm
not
at
a
at
a
computer
to
see
my
calendar.
But
yes,
I
do
not
mind
hosting
that
here
at
the
site
and
we
can
use
either
the
gymnasium
or
our
meeting
room.
But
I
heard
you
say
the
meeting
room
may
be
too
small.
So
just
let
me
know.
B
B
D
D
B
A
D
B
A
You
know,
let
me
just
correct
myself
because,
as
you
know,
we
did
go
through
this
phase,
where
all
meetings
were
supposed
to
be
at
5
30..
We
know
our
city
manager
wants
to
get
away
from
that
because
everything
seems
to
conflict,
but
I
haven't
heard
that
we've
gotten
away
from
it,
but
as
a
special
meeting
I
would
think
you
know
it's
one
of
those.
Let's,
let's
see
what
happens.
C
You
already
covered
some
of
this
stuff
on
rainmaker.
In
that
meeting,
it
was
very
clearly
stated
that,
yes,
the
city
is
responsible
for
rainmaker.
We
did
ask
in
that
meeting.
One
simple
question:
can
it
at
least
be
turned
on
in
the
interim,
and
we
were
told
that
the
because
it
was
flooded,
the
wiring
has
just
gone
so
the
wiring
needs
to
be
redone,
so
it
cannot
be
turned
on
they're.
Not
only
waiting
for
and
stacy
has
put
in
a
request.
C
B
C
B
You
know
I'll,
I
will
throw
one
more
thing
out
on
rainmaker,
so
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
letters,
a
lot
of
complaints
from
the
community,
and
so
we
should
say
as
a
commission
that
we
know
rainmaker
is
in
a
state
of
disrepair
and
it's
not
working
and
we
are
pushing
to
have
it
functioning
again.
So
it's
the
city
isn't
sitting
on
it
or
anything
they.
You
know
they
are
actively
trying
to
get
get
it
done,
but
I
spoke
to
one
of
the
people
who
has
sent
us
a
number
of
letters
and
asked
him.
B
You
know
I
talked
to
him
about
kind
of
explained
the
whole
situation
to
him
and
he
was.
We
had
a
really
great
discussion
and
I
said
you
know
part
of
what
the
the
city
kind
of
wants
to
start
doing
or
has
done
a
little
bit
in
the
past
and
wants
to
do
more
of
is
kind
of
having
a
you
know
like
we're
doing
with
the
mural
more
outreach
to
the
community.
B
So
I
said
to
this
gentleman:
you
know,
would
you
be
interested-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
this
yet,
but
having
a
an
ad
hoc
committee
of
citizens
that
are
interested
in
this
fountain?
That
kind
of
you
know
are
business
owners
or
artists,
or
you
know,
and
they
would
they
would
kind
of.
You
know
this
fountain
is
really
important
to
a
lot
of
people
in
this
city.
It
is
a
monster
amount
of
money
to
maintain
it
and
really
have
you
know
the
citizens
say:
hey,
we
want
to
maintain
it.
B
We
don't
want
to
maintain
it,
and
maybe
you
know
give
give
their
opinion
to
us,
and,
and
so
we
can
give
some
advice
to
the
council
on
it,
because
the
city
spent
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
this
fountain
when
they
put
it
in
and
it
costs.
You
know
over
forty
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
maintain
so
we've
put
a
we've,
really
put
a
lot
of
money
into
it
and
it's
a
it's
a
big
project
that
maybe
needs
to
be
rethought.
So
I'm
throwing
that
out
there.
C
C
C
B
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
seen
it,
but
so
yeah,
that's
the
rotary,
and
if
we
want
to
reach
out
to
them
and
see,
if
you
know
they
need
any
help
or
advice
or
whatever
from
us,
they
might
already
have
it
planned
because
they
probably
just
shot
their
plans
from
the
other
year.
I
can.
I
can
look
up
the
gentleman's
name
who
was
in
charge
of
it
last
time
if
anyone's
interested.
C
B
F
B
C
C
D
B
B
D
B
A
I
think
the
write-up
is
pretty
self-explanatory.
I
tried
to
cover
every
every
position
that
and
questions
people
would
have.
This
would
be
a
multi-artist
mural
downtown.
That
would
show
the
multi-cultural
aspect
of
palm
springs
histories
throughout
its
time,
and
I
think
if,
if
handled
well
and
the
content
is
dynamic,
as
we
know,
palm
springs
would
be.
This
could
be
a
pretty
amazing
piece.
A
As
I
said,
we
do
not
have
any
of
the
artists
chosen.
Yet
we
do
not
have
any
any
any
specifics
done.
We
had
a
preliminary
meeting
with
pete
from
flat
black
to
get
his
thoughts
on
it
to
get
some
estimates,
but
we're
not
locked
into
anything
with
him.
As
of
yet
we
wanted
to
get
everybody's
feedback
and
see
if
they
had
any
questions.
B
I
think
it's,
I
think
it's
a
great
idea.
I
love
the
idea
and,
and
your
write-up
was
really
self-explanatory
on
it.
I
just
think
it's
positive
and
and
equity
related
and
community
related
and
great
public
art
related
with
a
message.
So
I
think
I
think
it's
a
a
great
idea
and
that's
my
comment
for
on
on
your
piece
for
this
meeting.
B
C
B
B
B
I
talked
to
john
clement
and-
and
he
told
me
that
they
were
designed
to
be
displayed
together
and
they
originally
were
so
we
have
no.
I
have
no
idea-
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
any
idea
why,
how
they
got
here
and
how
they
were
put
where
they
were
put,
but
they
don't
look
very
good
and
and
two
of
the
locations
are
very
damaging
to
the
sculptures
and
and
they
need
to
be
installed
on
proper
pads
as
well.
B
So
this
is
a
location
that
we
had
talked
about
in
our
meeting
a
little
bit,
I
went
and
scouted
it
out.
There
may
be
other
locations
that
other
people
come
up
with.
That
could
work,
but
this
is
this
is
to
get
our
conversation
started
and
to
see
how
the
commission
feels
about
wanting
to
relocate
these
to
then
get
further
costs
on
it
and
permissions,
or
do
outreach
to
the
communities
to
see
how
they
would
work
in
that
location
or
another
location.
A
B
B
B
B
You
know
whenever
they
put
in
all
the
garbage
cans
and
things
like
that
around
town,
it's
the
same
kind
of
design,
but
but
there's
an
opportunity
there
right
to
use
that
pad
for
something
else
and
then
maybe
to
use
that
pad
at
the
theater
for
something
else.
So
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
for
a
couple
more
pieces
of
art
and
then
to
install
them
correctly,
not
on
grass
not
around
irrigation
on
a
permanent
pad
and
then
when
they're
taken
off.
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
just
bolted
to
that
concrete.
B
When
they're
taken
off
the
pads,
then
they
can
be
restored
and
be
repainted
because
they're
in
desperate
need
of
repainting
in
some
restoration
work.
So
it
would
be
a
lot
easier
if
they
were
just
removed
from
there.
The
the
site
they're
installed
on
to
do
that,
but
yeah.
We
should
include
those
costs
right
like
site
preparation,
and
you
know
relocation,
restoration
and
reinstallation.
So
that
would
include
all
of
that.
B
I
had
hoped
you
know
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
get
a
price,
but
because
our
arts
maintenance
contract
has
gone
out
for
bid.
We
we
can't
go,
communicate
with
vendors
on
this
ourselves,
so
we
could,
as
this
city
staff,
if
they
could
do
so,
but
but
it's
not
like
we
should.
We
shouldn't
be
reaching
out
to
people
to
get
prices
on
this
at
this
time,
since
we
have
a
bid
out
on
a
contract.
C
One
of
the
things
I
would
recommend
is
because
someone
else
may
have
another
suggestion
that
may
be
a
better
location
for
these
pieces
of
art.
So
I
would
suggest,
between
now
and
next
month
that
we
start
looking
around
and
we
bring
our
ideas
to
the
next
meeting
in
march
because
I
believe
we
all
agree
upon
and
if
you're
asking
for
a
motion,
we
all
agree
that
they're
going
to
be
moved.
We
all
agree
that
they're
going
to
be
restored.
B
A
B
D
B
And
and
commissioners,
if
you're
looking
at
other
spaces,
just
make
sure
there's
this
area
here
has
no
grass
and
no
trees
it.
It's
just
decomposed
granite,
so
that
helps
keep
down
our
relocation
costs.
So
we
don't
want
to
move
sprinklers
and
replace
you
know,
take
out
grass
etc
so
and
have
it
be
a
really
dynamic
area.
B
C
B
Yeah,
just
I've
been
asking
for
contracts
relating
to
things
that
we
have,
if
you
could
send
me
like
a
list
or
whatever,
because
I
can
also
tell
you
there's
not
going
to
be
a
contract
for
a
lot
of
things.
So
if
it
was
during
covid,
there
might
be
this
artist's
artist
agreement
and
that's
it
there's
not
that
much
detail.
So
I
could
kind
of
give
you
a
yes
or
no
sign
versus
having
someone
spend
the
time
trying
to
search
for
things
that
we
know
aren't
there.
B
But
yes,
so
we
are,
you
know,
that's
why
I
put
try
to
put
so
much
information
in
the
packet.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
information
and
yeah.
We
should
be
able
to
see
all
that
stuff
so
but
they're,
you
know
like
the
a
couple
sculptures
that
or
a
couple
pieces
people
were
talking
about.
You
know
there.
It's
you
know,
there's
like
an
invoice
or
there's
not
all.
Not
all
of
the
data
exists
that
we
would
like.