►
From YouTube: Architectural Advisory Committee | May 18, 2021
Description
No description was provided for this meeting.
If this is YOUR meeting, an easy way to fix this is to add a description to your video, wherever mtngs.io found it (probably YouTube).
B
C
A
He
doesn't
appear
to
be
here
yet
and
chair
jakeway.
B
B
I
would
like
to
say
that
item
number
five,
which
is
the
implementation
of
the
new
architectural
review.
We
might
take
that
in
front
of
number
four,
because
one
of
the
committee
members
have
to
leave
by
7
30,
so
we'll
make
sure
we
have
that
item
handled
while
everybody
from
the
committee
is
still
here.
B
Do
we
have
a
motion
to
accept
the
agenda
I'll
make
a
motion
to
accept
tom
dosey.
Second,.
B
John
mccoy,
all
in
favor
hi,
hi,
okay,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
this
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
somebody
would
like
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
please
let
yourself
be
known.
B
We're
going
to
proceed
to
the
approving
the
minutes
of
the
may
3rd
2021
meeting.
Does
anybody
have
any
oh
wait
a
minute,
I'm
jumping
out
of
order?
Ernie!
That's
right!
Anybody
have
any
changes,
corrections!
Revisions
to
the
minutes.
B
D
The
applicant
has
resubmitted
their
plans
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
a
new
fuel
station
and
convenience
kiosk
in
the
destination
ramone
shopping
center.
The
site
is
located
on
the
east
side
of
destination,
ramon
shop
shopping
center
on
a
vacant
parcel
along
crossley
road.
Originally,
this
application
was
reviewed
by
the
aac
on
april
5th,
2021.
D
The
project
site
consists
of
constructing
an
8-pump
gas
station,
a
440
square
foot,
convenience
kiosk
and
a
5
600
square
foot
canopy.
This
was
the
design
of
the
original
kiosk
and
fuel
station
canopy.
There
were
issues
regarding
color
scheme.
The
proposed
chain
link
fence
along
the
mechanical
equipment
and
trash
enclosure.
D
D
Additionally,
there
were
issues
with
the
modifications.
I
guess
the
proposed
modifications
of
the
existing
monument
sign.
This
sign
on
the
right
was
what
the
applicant
had
proposed.
However,
ac
members
really
liked
the
variation
in
the
existing
ramon
road
monument
sign,
so
the
applicant
has
revised
sorry-
has
revised
their
application
and
their
plans
based
on
these
comments,
and
the
changes
include
a
more
neutral
desert
tone
color
on
the
kiosk
and
the
canopy.
D
They
have
added
additional
landscaping
on
the
exit
towards
the
north
and
additional
landscaping,
so
they
increase
the
berm
along
crossley
road,
an
additional
three
feet
taller
than
the
grade
of
the
fuel
station.
D
This
is
the
the
new
site
plan
that
shows
landscaping
to
the
north
and
along
the
crossley
road.
The
berm
along
crossley
road-
and
this
is
the
proposed
sign
based
on
ac's
recommendation
to
increase
the
cap
four
inches
above
the
destination.
Ramone
sign
and
increase
the
base
of
the
sign,
10
inches
staff
recommends
approval
to
planning
commission
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
included
in
the
staff
report
and
the
application.
B
D
So
we
have
a
section
in
our
zoning
ordinance
that
speaks
to
service
stations
and
one
of
the
requirements
is
that
the
the
building
needs
to
be
a
minimum
750
square
feet.
It's
within
our
zoning
section
of
the
zoning
code.
E
A
good
evening
sure
and
commissioners
jacob
glaze,
kimberly
horn.
We
are
the
project
applicant
and
here,
on
behalf
of
walmart,
it's
nice
to
see
you
guys
all
here
again.
Thank
you
guys
for
hearing
our
case.
Thank
you
guys
for
the
recommendations.
We've
taken,
those
recommendations
back
to
ourselves
as
the
civil
engineer
back
to
our
landscape
architecture,
team
and
also
back
to
the
architect,
to
discuss
some
design
modifications,
as
well
as
just
some
operational
issues.
E
So
as
not
to
repeat
what
alex
has
said,
but
we
feel
that
we've
addressed
all
your
guys
concerns.
There
was
about
seven
of
them
that
were
expressed
on
the
last
call.
We
feel
like
we've
addressed
all
seven
seven
of
them
and
we're
here
to
hopefully
get
your
guys
approval.
That
way
we
can
go
on
to
planning,
commission
and
ultimately
try
to
proceed
with
getting
this
fuel
station
put
inside
the
city.
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions:
should
you
guys
have
any
again?
E
Thank
you
guys
for
taking
the
time
tonight
and
thank
you
alex
especially
for
kind
of
walking
us
through
this
you've
been
a
huge
help
throughout
the
process.
So
again,
thank
you
guys
for.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you,
jacob
committee
members,
questions
for
the
applicant.
F
I
have
a
question:
yes,
john
dossey:
what
is
the
distance
between
the
proposed
drive,
aisle
curb
and
the
sidewalk?
Does
the
meandering
sidewalk,
where,
where
the
proposed
three-foot
berm
is
going
to
be
added.
E
F
I
I
think
my
concern
is
with
the
height
of
the
berm
as
the
walk
meanders,
that
it
it
gets
very
narrow
towards
the
south
end
there
and
how
that
burn
will
be
accomplished
in
that
there
is
a
section
on
the
second
page,
but
there
is
no
dimension
section.
A
a
kind
of
indicates
how
it
would
work.
E
From
a
grading
standpoint
tom,
I
I
would
sir
sorry,
commissioner,
from
a
grading
standpoint,
I
would
say
that
we
have
looked
at
it.
We
do
have
a
geotech
report
that
we
feel
that
we
can
accomplish
that
three
foot
high
berm
inside
of
that
section
behind
the
landscaping
or
behind
the
the
curb,
as
well
as
behind
the
sidewalk
by
adding
benches
and
everything
else.
But
we
do
feel
that
we
have
enough
room
to
make
that
work
and
we
will
make
sure
that
that
area
is
landscaped
as
well
to
provide
additional
screenage.
E
B
B
So
I
assume
that
means
the
shoppers
will
notify
the
attendant
of
what
they
want
and
the
attendant
will
retrieve
it.
I
can't
imagine
that
the
attendant
is
going
to
walk
out
of
his
locked
building
and
open
those
cases
individually.
So
it
would
seem
to
me
that
the
attendant
is
going
to
access
the
cases
from
inside
the
building.
Is
that
correct.
E
That
would
be
correct
here,
they're
going
to
be
reaching
reaching
coolers
and
reaching
containers
where
they
would
actually
reach
in
pull
it
out
here.
I'm
sorry,
as
you
can
see
inside
this
image
here
or
this
for
this
lady
is
standing,
she
would
walk
up
to
the
attendant.
She
would
ask.
I
want
a
pepsi
and
a
water
bottle.
The
attendant
would
walk
back
into
that
case.
They
would
pull
the
pepsi
and
the
water
bottle
out.
They
would
walk
back.
E
They
would
charge
the
person
at
the
at
the
window
and
then
ultimately
would
hand
them
the
items,
disallowing
them
to
necessarily
re
grab
them
from
grab.
They
want
to
be
able
to
grab
them
right
off
like
open
the
glass
case
and
grab
them
all.
The
cases
would
be
locked,
it
would
be
more
or
less.
The
attendant
would
have
to
get
the
item
and
then
give
it
to
you.
B
B
Open
the
cases.
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
for
the
applicant.
C
No,
I
mean,
I
think
in
looking
at
what
our
comments
were.
I
think
they
were
all
addressed
and
I,
like
the
color
scheme.
I
think
it
works
better
with
the
the
main
building
now
and
is
more
in
in
in
harmony
with
the
with
the
rest
of
the
complex.
So
I'm
I'm
happy
good.
B
B
C
John
yeah,
don't
concur
with
that.
You
know
I.
I
could
see
frustration
levels
rising
as
an
attendant
has
to
go
and
gather
goods,
and
you
know
essentially
do
the
shopping
while
everybody's
standing
out
in
the
heat
and
the
sun
in
a
line,
the
look
of
bathroom
doors
and
food
right
there.
It's
not
particularly
attractive,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
be
headed
down
this
direction
as
as
the
visual
trying
to
keep
it
an
attractive.
F
B
F
F
I
think
that
anybody
driving
by
because
of
the
canopy
will
certainly
be
able
to
see
this
facility,
but
I
I
think
you
know
there
there
could
have
been
maybe
a
combination
of
wall
and
berm
where
they
could
burn
up
against
the
wall.
As
you
go
further
north
there
is
those
existing
walls
both
at
the
entry
and
then
as
a
retaining
wall
at
the
other
north
side
of
the
entry
drive
and
and
then
also
that
they
call
out
for
one
existing
palo
verde
tree
to
remain.
F
B
C
Tackled
the
list
of
aesthetic
issues
related
to
related
to
the
the
visual
aspects
of
the
color
and
materials.
I
I
am
troubled
with
the
functionality.
F
C
A
lot
of
running
around
that
this
attendant
is
going
to
have
to
do,
and
I
can
see
a
cue,
a
line,
stacking
up
and
it
being
a
very
uncomfortable
situation,
and
so
I
think
it
has
its
roots
of
it's
odd.
Perhaps
I'm
just
not
used
to
seeing
something
like
this,
but
it's
like
looking
at
a
glass
refrigerator
and
it
seems
an
odd
facade.
G
B
B
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
As
far
as
the
berm
goes,
I'm
I
still
am
working
remote
today,
but
I'm
trying
to
pull
that
dimension.
I
I
was
under
the
impression
that
the
berm
was
originally
there
to
screen
headlights
to
screen
headlights
from
going
on
to
the
neighboring
road.
So
I
I
think
the
three
foot
high
berm
is
is
doing
that.
E
I
don't
think
that
our
intention
was
ever
to
generally
screen
the
entire
canopy
or
screen
somebody
from
seeing
it,
but
necessarily
to
screen
the
headlights
from
the
cars
either
parked
inside
of
the
or
the
cars
that
would
necessarily
be
fueling
at
the
station.
If
I,
if
I
misunderstood
that,
I
apologize,
but
that
was
my.
B
I
I
think
you
did
misunderstand
it
a
bit.
Mr
dosey
wasn't
asking
for
the
berm
to
be
made
taller
than
the
three
foot
and
we
certainly
understand
it
would
never
screen
anything
but
the
headlights.
I
think
mr
dosey's
comment
was
the
area
that
the
berm
is
going
to
go
in,
might
be
too
narrow
to
be
able
to
build
a
three
foot
high
berm
without
having
a
retaining
wall
behind
a
portion
of
it,
so
that
the
berm
could
be
burned
up
against
the
wall.
B
So
I
think
our
our
desire
is,
at
the
berm,
consistently
be
three
feet:
the
entire
length
of
the
property
line
there
other
than
where
you've
got
the
pedestrian
access
through
it.
So
if
there
is
not
physically
enough
space
to
build
a
berm
that
daylights
on
each
side,
then
you'll
need
to
have
a
wall
on
the
fueling
side
of
the
berm,
so
that
it
can
still
be
three
feet
tall
from
the
street.
B
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
to
cl
so
to
classify
that
I
think
we're
fine
with
that.
If
that
is
a
condition
of
approval
that
is
set
on
to
the
the
project
here,
we
are
once
we
go
through
final
engineering,
whether
we,
if
we
cannot
make
the
three
foot
high
berm
work,
then
we
will
be
required
to
construct
some
type
of
wall,
a
decorative
screen
wall
that
would
match
the
ultimate
appeal
of
the
either
the
kiosk
itself
or
of
the
split
face
or
the
the
cmu
wall.
E
That's
around
the
trip,
the
generator
pad
or
something.
I
don't
think
that
we
have
an
issue
generally,
if
that,
if
that
addresses
that
comment,
yes,
okay,
as
far
as
the
the
glass
as
far
as
the
750
square
feet,
I
know
that's
been
mentioned
a
couple
different
times
myself,
as
well
as
my
one
of
my
co-workers,
who
actually
drove
through
the
city
of
palm
springs
over
the
weekend.
I
was
very
nice,
but
we
drove
through
the
city
and
we've
counted
multiple
fueling
stations
that
are
under
the
750
square
foot
threshold.
E
I'm
not
100
certain,
where
or
not
certain,
I'm
not
100
clear
on
when
the
actual
750
square
foot
threshold
was
adopted,
but
there's
multiple
fueling
stations
with
inside
the
city
that
operate
with
this
kind
of
this.
This
kiosk
feel
I
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
commissioners
was
mentioning
that
it
seems
a
little
awkward
for
for
someone
to
walk
to
the
kiosk
and
then
for
the
attendant
to
go
and
get
the
items
behind
the
kiosk.
E
I
I
do
agree,
that's
not
our
ideal
situation.
We
have
other
feeling
stations
where
it
does
operate
like
that.
I
would
say
think
of
when,
if
you
ever
go
to
one
of
these
gas
stations
late
at
night
and
you
have
to
walk
up
to
the
window
and
the
gas
is
locked
or
the
key,
they
get
the
few
the
7-eleven
or
one
of
the
other
stations
is
locked
in
the
attendance
there
or
there's
a
glass
window
or
you
want
something
from
behind
the
counter.
E
The
attendant
has
to
walk
behind
the
counter
and
go
get
those
items.
So
I
do
think
that
it's
not
the
most
ideal
situation,
but
I
think
it's
a
situation
that
we've
found
that
works
and
also
a
situation
that
others
have
found
that
works,
that
having
the
associate
reach
around
that
area
to
go
get.
It
is
not
the
end
of
the
world
and
I
would
say
it's:
it's
440
square
feet,
so
it's
not
a
huge
huge
walk
for
the
associate
to
go
get
it.
B
That
does
the
committee
have
any
other
questions
of
the
applicant.
B
C
One
question
yeah,
john
mccoy:
I
I
read
the
notes
and
I
see
that
remember
lock
your
asked
about
the
lighting.
I
just
have
one
other
question
in
the
rendering
it
appears
that
the
fixtures
are
dropped
down,
that
they
drop
below
the
grade
of
the
ceiling.
E
It's
more
of
a,
I
assume,
that's
back
to
that's
establishing
yes,
okay,
perfect!
They
are
it.
It
depends
on
what
ultimately,
what
design
process
we
go
with,
we
can
do
either
full
recessed
or
we
can
do
where
they
bump
out.
Like
that,
it's
it's
really
up
to
the
city.
I've
done
either
one
of
the
two
options
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
generally
matter
to
us.
C
C
Really
is
a
better
better
route
for
glare
control
and
controlling
that,
where
the
light
is
going
and
keeping
it
on.
E
Property
yeah
fully
fully
agree.
With
that
same,
I
just
I
know
some
folks
like
to
see
it
actually
like
there's
to
be
some
type
of
architectural
change
between
them,
but
yeah
fully
recessed
is
totally
doable
on
the
canopy
itself.
We
have
enough
thickness
inside
of
the
canopy
to
make
that
work
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
Okay,
we
are
going
to
go
to
item
number
three
global
company
llc
on
behalf
of
calibus
kelly
bliss
for
a
minor
architectural
application
and
sign
permit
to
modify
the
exterior
of
the
building
and
install
new
signage
for
a
proposed
cannabis
dispensary
located
at
562,
south
indian
canyon
drive.
Do
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please.
D
D
D
Sorry
for
both
uses,
the
applicant
had
originally
proposed
to
add
a
smooth
gray
stucco
on
the
exterior
of
the
building,
add
light
fixtures
to
the
right
of
the
building's
entrance,
a
new
planter
and
repaint
the
entire
building
light
gray.
They
had
also
proposed
to
eliminate
the
diamond
motifs
on
the
front
of
the
building
and
propose
new
signage
above
the
main
entrance
of
the
building
ac
had
recommended
to
continue
the
item
due
to
a
request
for
more
information.
D
The
applicant
has
addressed
ac's
comments
by
modifying
the
following.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
modify
the
awning
above
the
two
residential
units
to
include
uv
protective
finish
glass,
covering
with
steel
grids
and
a
frosted
glass
in
between
the
two
tenons.
Where
currently,
I
believe,
a
torn
vinyl
sheet
was
located.
D
D
New
railing
is
proposed
along
the
second
story,
and
the
diamond
motifs
are
also
going
to
remain.
The
building
will
still
be
repainted
a
light
gray,
and
the
planter
will
consist
of
an
actual
stone
with
some.
What
they
refer
to
as
giant
wild
rye,
which
will
be
planted
within
the
planter
and
staff,
recommends.
Aac
recommend
approval
to
city
council.
This
the
applicant
is
available
for
comment.
B
B
H
Fantastic,
thank
you
so
much
for
hearing
our
project.
It's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
tonight
so
in
response
to
some
of
the
items
that
before.
B
H
Okay,
so
upon
aac's
comments,
we
have
made
the
following
changes.
First
and
foremost,
the
sign
has
been
moved.
It
will
now
consist
of
aluminum
channel
lettering
and
that
will
be
navy
blue
backlit
by
a
warm
led
lighting.
The
sign
itself
will
be
roughly.
It
will
start
six
feet
high
and
will
be
about
two
and
a
half
feet
high
and
spans
about
12
feet.
Long
right
above
that
there
will
be
recessed
lighting.
Three
six
inch
diameter
on
reset
recessed
lighting.
H
We,
as
alex
mentioned,
have
decided
to
keep
the
diamond
motifs
on
the
the
front
of
the
building
to
bring
more
life
to
the
mid-century
modern
decor
that
palm
springs
is
famous,
for
we
also
have
decided
to
take
there's
an
existing
mailbox
in
the
on
the
right
hand,
side
we've
proposed
to
move
it
to
the
left
hand
side
of
the
the
building,
where
it's
kind
of
flush
with
that
left
panel
of
like
building.
H
H
There
were
some
concerns
about
a
meter,
that's
located
on
that
right-hand
side
of
the
building
and
what
we're
proposing
is
to
have
a
trap
door
built
into
this
planter
so
that
that
meter
will
still
be
accessible
to
the
maintenance
crew.
But
you
know
you
won't
be
able
to
see
the
meter
as
you're
walking
by
the
outside
of
the
building.
H
And
additionally,
I'm
gonna
address
the
the
backage
of
of
the
building.
We've
decided
to
plant
two
indian
redwood
trees
in
the
back
parking
lot
to
give
more
shade.
We
have.
H
We
currently
have
a
fence
on
the
south
side
of
the
building
that
is
covered
in
ivy,
and
we
like
that.
We
think
that's
great.
That's
going
to
remain.
H
H
We
are
going
to
have
a
locked
room
where
we
will
keep
all
the
trash
and
additionally,
there
will
be
an
extra
lock
placed
around
the
trash
that
comes
from
the
lounge
and
the
dispensary
portion
of
the
building,
which
is
the
first
floor.
H
Okay,
and
with
that,
I
will
open
it
up.
Do
you
have
any
additional
questions
for
me.
B
Applicant,
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
your
section.
B
H
Street
the
glass
panels
that
are
enclosing
is:
are
these
the
front
windows
that
you're
talking
about
or
yes,.
H
Yeah,
so
so,
basically,
what
those
are
those
are
just
you
know,
front
windows
for
a
retail
shop
is.
B
Okay,
another
thing:
I'm
a
bit
confused
about
the
balcony
rail
and
the
awnings.
The
current
awning
is
a
roll
out
canvas
awning.
Yes,
you
don't
have
any
details
in
here
of
either
the
balcony
rail
or
the
awning,
but
it
appears
like
the
awning
is
a
metal
framework
and
I
believe
you
described
it
had
translucent
glazing
when
you
look
at
it
from
the
side,
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
pitch
to
the
awning,
but
in
the
bottoms
flat.
That's
confusing
to
me.
The
handrail
you've
moved
it
back
from
the
edge
of
the
balcony.
B
Currently,
it's
right
on
the
edge
of
the
balcony.
You've
moved
it
back
towards
the
upper
level
apartments,
and
my
other
comment
would
be
the
glass
panel
separating
the
two
balconies
has
no
relationship
to
the
rhythm
of
the
vertical
supports
in
the
handrail
when
it
has
no
real
relationship
to
the
supports
in
the
ceiling
of
the
trellis
or
awning.
H
Well,
what
we
are
so
first,
I
will
address
the
awning
second
I'll
address
the
railing
and
the
third.
I
will
address
the
divider
okay.
B
H
So
the
first
item
you
mentioned,
which
is
the
awning-
this
is
something
that
our
architect
recommended,
because
it
fit
in
with
the
design
of
the
of
the
building.
There
are
hard
angles,
and
you
know
palm
springs
is
very
sunny.
We
wanted
something
that
would
provide
a
certain
amount
of
shade,
but
also
be
you
know.
H
Indicative
of
you
know
the
bright,
sunny
palm
springs,
traditional
weather,
so
the
glass
that
is
laid
in
between
the
steel
on
the
awning
will
have
a
uv
protective
finish
on
it,
so
that
it
does
provide
a
little
bit
of
protection
to
anyone
underneath
as
far
as
the
railing
in
the
first
architectural
advisory
hearing
that
we
attended,
there
was
some
talk
about
how
the
rendering
didn't
quite
reflect
what
the
actual
dimensions
of
the
building
were.
H
So
we
went
back
and
we
updated
the
rendering
that
is
more
true
to
the
building
as
it
sits
today.
The
the
railing
on
the
balcony
is
still
in
pretty
good
shape,
and
we
would
like
to
keep
that
if
possible.
H
There
are
so
many
back
up
here,
so
there
are
railings
that
surround
glass,
which
is
lightly
glazed
for
the
balcony
railing,
and
that
glass
is
still
in
in
great
shape.
The
the
applicant,
the
owner
applicant
would
be
amenable
to
maybe
putting
a
fresh
coat
of
paint
on
that
railing
and
we
can
do
it
in
the
same
color
as
the
the
rest
of
the
building,
which
will
be
a
grey
and
then
and
and
one
more
point
I
want
to
make
about
the
the
railing
that
balcony
currently
extends.
H
So,
as
you
can
see,
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
setback
to
that
and
then
the
last
item
is
this
divider,
and
so
we
would
be
amenable
to
changing
the
the
type
of
divider,
but
we
we
do
need
something
there.
In
the
meantime,
we've
proposed
a
heavily
frosted
blast
so
that
it
provides
privacy
to
the
tenants
as
far
as
the
support
structure
of
this
particular
divider.
H
This
is
something
that
the
architect
had
proposed
and
did
take
into
account.
Structural
calculation.
B
Please
there
you
go
see
there.
It
looks
like
to
me
that
the
railing
is
right
on
the
edge
of
the
balcony
and
on
the
rendering
it
looks
like
it's
back
several
feet
from
that
edge
or
ivy.
Did
you
say
you're
extending
the
belt
see
right
there
there's
several
feet
between
the
face
of
the
balcony
and
the.
B
Are
you
making
the
are
you
making
the
balcony
bigger,
making
it
longer.
H
H
F
F
The
whole
area
is
just
asphalt
and
on
both
sides
there
is
a
concrete
sidewalk
that
lead
up
to
this
property,
and
I
guess
my
question
is:
are
you
just
proposing
to
leave
the
existing
asphalt
as
it
is
or
because
my
concern
is,
you
have
two
driveway
cuts
on
both
sides,
and
you
know
people
could
very
well
just
pull
up
right
in
front.
You
know
of
the
building
up
off
the
curb
and
it
just
I
feel
like
it
needs
some
delineation
as
an
entrance
and
a
sidewalk
and
something
to
the
front
door.
H
Sure
so
you
know,
along
with
this
submittal
applicant,
preferred
to
leave
the
asphalt
as
is,
but
would
be
amenable
to
on
updating
that
particular
part
of
the
building.
The
frontage
of
the
building
to
include
a
non-slip
asphalt
cover.
B
H
H
Well,
the
only
way
that
that
would
happen
is
if
the
car
pulled
in
to
the
driveway,
as
if
it
was
going
to
the
back
of
the
property
where
the
parking
lot
is
and
then
to
kind
of
make
a
little
bit
of
a
turn
and
then
park
right
in
front
of
the
building.
H
Although
that
would
be
possible
to
do
that's
not
necessarily
the
intent
alex.
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
go
back
to
a
picture
of
the
building
as
it
exists
today?
I'm
noticing
this
curve.
This
picture
doesn't
really
show
it,
but
there's
a
red
curve
that
spans
most
of
that
building,
except
the
part
where
the
driveway
is
that's
used
to
get
to
the
back
of
the
property.
B
H
B
H
Okay,
do
I
need
to
request
to
share
my
screen.
H
H
Yes,
they
could
and
and
right
to
the
left
of
the
building.
There
is
parking
for
the
residential
it's
an
apartment,
building
that
is
to
the
north
of
this
property.
B
B
B
Okay
ivy.
Thank
you
very
much
committee
discussion.
F
F
I
believe
that
people
will
could
pull
in
there
and
it
gives
the
applicant
much
more
of
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
define
the
entry,
and
I
mean
there's
even
more
landscape
opportunities,
not
like
it's
a
walk-up
storefront
that
we
might
see
on
palm
canyon.
So
I
I
would
like
to
see
that
area
addressed
in
a
more
definitive
way
and
then
I
also
think
that
they
mentioned
some
planting
areas
that
a
actual
planting
and
irrigation
plan
be
submitted
to
staff
for
review
with
desert
appropriate
plants.
F
I
Robert
yeah,
first
of
all,
I
apologize
for
coming
in
so
late.
I
had
some
internet
issues
and
I
only
heard
part
of
the
discussion.
So
if
I
repeat
something
that
somebody
else
has
asked
about,
I
apologize
just
a
couple
things.
The
temperature
of
the
three
down
lights,
I
think,
should
be
coordinated
with
the
color
of
the
lighting
interior
on
the
interior
as
well,
whether
they're,
2700
or
3000
kelvin.
I
think
they
should
be
consistent.
I
I
I
did
pick
up
tom
some
of
your
questions
about
the
canopy
and
the
rhythm
of
the
framing,
which
I
think
really
needs
to
be
re-looked
at,
as
well
as
the
integration
of
the
privacy
screen.
The
vertical
privacy
screen,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
how
they're
proposing
to
support
that,
but
I
think
some
details
need
to
be
developed
or
you
know
about
that
and
then
I
did
not
see
if
there
were
actual
color
samples
submitted.
I
I
missed
that
so
and
then
I
also
the
glass
canopy.
I
I
in
another
climate,
I
would
say
the
glass
canopy
is
a
nice
idea.
I'm
not
sure
it's
really
that
effective
in
palm
springs.
I
think
a
solid
material
as
opposed
to
a
uv
treated
glass
is
be
a
better
option.
B
I'll
add
to
robert's
comments.
If
the
applicant
chooses
to
use
the
existing
handrail
guard
rail,
I
think
they
need
to
modify
the
design
of
the
awning
so
that
it
picks
up
the
pattern
of
the
verticals
on
the
handrail,
so
that
the
handrail,
the
awning
and
the
panel
between
the
two
balconies
becomes
one
integrated
unit
and
all
the
pieces
relate
to
verticals
in
the
other
two
pieces
in
general.
B
I
really
like
this
little
building
and
I
think
it's
great
that
it's
being
fixed,
but
I
think
the
final
thing
that
will
really
make
it
good
is
tom
dosey's
comments
that
the
sidewalk
be
continued.
There's
an
opportunity
to
do
some
landscaping
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
curb.
So
instead
of
this
feeling,
like
it's
just
a
part
of
the
street
you're
going
to
have
a
nice
little
front,
facade
to
this
project,.
B
Overall,
any
other
comments,
andrew
mccale,
here
with
kelly
bliss.
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment
only
on
in
regards
to
the.
C
Canopy
and
kind.
I
I
You
know,
although
we
did
like
the
vinyl,
we
felt
to
be
able
to
withstand
the
heat,
and
the
wind.
That's
in
in
palm
springs
that
the
the
metal
with
the
uv
light
protection
would
add.
It
would
be
better
in
terms
of
holding
up
to
the
weather
and
the
wind
and
palm
springs.
I
B
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that's
missing
from
the
drawings
is:
there's
no
details
to
show
how
that
metal
canopy
is
structurally
going
to
be
able
to
be
cantilevered
off
of
the
face
of
the
building.
We
wouldn't
want
to
see
support
pieces
coming
back
at
an
angle
or
going
down.
So
I
think
if
we
were
to
approve
that,
I
would
certainly
want
to
include
a
comment
that
the
design
of
that
awning
has
to
be
detailed
fully
for
staff
to
review.
B
F
I
would
make
a
motion
for
approval
with
the
comments
and
that
it
be
further
reviewed
by
staff.
Unless
the
committee
thinks
that
we
need
to
see
it
again,.
B
B
A
Mr
chair
just
note
that
you
know
for
a
new
improvement
of
a
sidewalk.
Typically
it's
well,
I'm
not
sure.
I
know
our
engineer
is
here,
mr
rickman
harris,
so
I
don't
know
if
he
has
a
comment
about
it,
but
typically
the
sidewalk-
and
I
don't
know
this
sidewalk
looks
like
it's
actually
closer,
it's
further
away
from
the
building
and
closer
to
the
street,
probably
where
it
doesn't
match.
A
Whatever
the
general
plan,
right-of-way
requirement
is
or
improvement
is
for
on
the
street,
so
I
don't
know
if
he
has
a
comment
about
how
that
needs
to
be
addressed
if
it
needs
to
be
at
where
the
curve
is
or
the
actual
curve
should
be
moved
back
and
that
in
that
case
it
becomes
more
more
of
an
improvement
for
the
project.
C
Yeah
it
I
was
looking
at
the
pictures
and
if
it
was
adjacent
to
the
curb
that
wouldn't
be
so
much
a
problem
where
you're
going
to
end
up
with
the
problem
is
on
both
driveway
approaches
on
either
side
of
the
building,
the
driveway
approach,
going
back
to
the
rear
parking
lot
and
the
bay
parking
to
the
apartments
to
the
north
that
connection
of
the
sidewalk.
C
C
F
C
B
C
The
sidewalk
is
something
that
the
committee
wanted
to
require
that
they
do
then
they
would
have
to
submit
something
to
us
so
that
we
can
determine
whether
or
not
it
would
fit
within
the
existing
right-of-way
and
whether
or
not
it
would
meet
ada.
C
A
So
you
can
see
here
in
the
screen
that
I
just
put
up
as
the
overall
view,
the
property
to
the
south
of
it.
It
looks
like
they
may.
You
know.
Their
propellant
is
certainly
further
east,
whereas
this
property,
it's
this
property,
the
existing
property
line,
the
right
of
the
line
is
much
closer
or
much
further
into
the
right-of-way
area.
C
F
F
I
still
feel
there's
an
opportunity
to
enhance,
what's
there,
maybe
without
having
to
go
to
the
whole
re-engineering
of
the
curb
in
the
driveway
entries,
and
perhaps
that
could
be
worked
out
between
engineering
staff
and
planning
staff
with
the
applicant,
but
to
to
somehow
define
it
more
clearly.
So
cars
do
not
make
that
attempt
to
pull
into
the
front
of
the
building.
B
A
Well,
I
I
think
we
can.
We
can
certainly
just
indicate
that
the
sidewalk
space
in
front
of
the
building
is
to
be
modified
to
provide
a
defined
pedestrian
area
from
the
the
driveway
area
and-
and
we
can
look
at
the
details.
F
A
D
B
And
as
part
of
that,
we're
still
requiring
that
the
canopy
awning
be
detailed.
F
C
B
Now
we
go
to
new
business,
canon
melissa,
irkey.
I
hope
I'm
pronouncing
that
right
owners
for
a
major
architectural
review
for
the
construction
of
a
3900
square
foot
single
family
house
on
a
hillside
lot
located
at
2216
monument
court
zone,
esa,
sp
planning
area,
4,
pacific
palisades
specific
plan.
Do
we
have
a
staff
report.
G
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
Let
me
start
to
share
the
screen
here
and
we'll
do
some
slides
and
go
through
them.
You
all
can
see
that
right.
B
G
It
is
on
a
12,
63
square
foot
lot,
which
is
one
of
the
smaller
lots
in
desert
palisades,
but
the
house
will
be
3900
square
feet
or
31
of
the
lot
coverage
before
you
is
a
a
3d
rendering
showing
how
the
house
will
sit,
it's
rectangular
in
size.
It
is
a
split
level
with
the
western
end
of
the
house,
of
the
lot
10
feet
higher
than
the
lower
end,
so
they've
managed
to
tuck
the
garage
and
a
two-bedroom
suite
underneath
the
main
level
of
the
house.
G
So
I
want
to
point
out
here
in
this
picture.
The
driveway,
the
driveway
width,
is
12
feet
and
they'll,
be
using
porous,
concrete
and
you'll
see
the
joints
that
plants
will
grow
in
between
and
some
of
the
landscaping.
That
is
along
the
front,
which
includes
pellever,
palo,
verdes
and
other
trees.
G
It
has
an
infinity
pool
with
a
large
overhang
that
faces
south,
and
then
there
are
trellis
structures
that
also
provide
shading
and
you'll
notice
that
it's
a
glass
frontage
that
faces
the
street
in
the
and
the
south,
and
once
again
this
is
a
view
of
the
front
from
monument
court.
G
So,
looking
at
the
site
plan,
the
house
meets
the
design
guidelines
as
far
as
setbacks
for
desert
palisades.
It
is
25
in
the
front
and
then
15
in
the
rear
and
then
also
keeps
the
the
conservation
areas
on
both
sides
of
the
lot.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
one
of
the
smaller
lots
of
desert
palisades
and
they
have
managed
to
fit
the
house
in
with
a
large
boulder
berm,
which
is
column,
monument
court
and
then
another
aurora
that
is
being
protected
in
the
rear.
G
The
materials
that
are
proposed
are
a
smooth
plaster
for
the
main
body.
There
are
there's
metal,
fascia,
there's
a
metal
door
for
the
entrance,
and
the
main
entrance
to
the
house
is
on
the
lower
level
and
I'm
circling
that
right
now
and
you
can
see
that
when
we
go
through
some
of
the
floor
plans,
so
in
the
rear,
there
are
glass
on
the
lower
level
for
the
two
bedroom
suites
and
you
can
see
inside
here.
This
is
the
stairwell
that
leads
up
to
this.
G
The
upper
level
where
the
main
living
area
is
consisting
of
a
great
room,
dining
room
and
then
a
master
suite
and
looking
at
these
dotted
lines.
You'll
see
that
the
natural
grade.
There
is
this
depression
here
that
we
talked
about
and
then
the
larger
world
to
the
north
and
then
the
boulder
berm
along
the
street.
G
So
some
other
3d
renderings
you'll
notice
that
the
that's
a
solid
overhang
and
then
on
the
side,
both
north
and
south.
There
are
metal
trellises
that
provide
solar
control
and
then
in
your
packet
there's
a
series
of
these
three
render
3d
renderings
that
show
how
the
house
is
placed
along
the
street
and
then
showing
an
outdoor
area
off
of
the
master
suite
in
the
back,
and
then
this
larger
world
that
runs
to
the
north.
G
As
I
mentioned,
you
have
a
material
board
that
shows
the
type
of
texture,
plaster,
finish
walls
and
ceiling
and
the
types
of
elements
that
will
be
used
throughout
the
house,
so
just
go
through
some
of
these
photographs.
This
shows
cross
sections
of
how
the
house
will
sit
currently
there's
no
structures
on
on
either
side
of
it.
However,
there
is
a
house
that
sits
across
near
world
to
the
north,
and
that
was
one
of
the
original
houses
on
vista
distancia.
G
And
then
a
landscape
plan,
so
you
can
see
that
the
the
site
is
using
desert
plants,
some
trees
that
provide
privacy
on
the
front
and
in
the
rear
for
the
house
to
the
to
the
north,
and
you
have
mate
plant
material,
a
plant
palette
and
sure
that
concludes
my
report.
The
applicant
is
here
and
can
discuss
the
project.
B
Thank
you
committee
questions
for
the
staff.
B
G
B
There,
so
is
the
intention,
where
they're
depressing
the
lot
in
the
upper
right
corner.
I
guess
it
would
be
the
northeast
corner.
Water
is
going
to
run
down
that
slope
and
they're,
showing
in
the
section
that
the
window
sill
of
those
bedroom
windows
is
right
at
the
grade
of
the
bottom
of
that
slope.
G
Right
I'll
have
to
have
the
applicant
right
because
the
water
has
to
run.
It
won't
go
up
over
this
aurora,
so
it
has
to
run
along
the
base
of
the
house.
B
G
B
B
J
My
name
is
brett
woods
of
woodstead
aaron
architects.
We
have
had
the
luxury
of
working
in
desert
palisades
already.
I
am
the
owner
and
the
architect
of
lot
three.
So
I've
been
down
this
road,
I
understand
the
complexities
of
of
the
development
and,
as
glenn
mentioned,
some
lots
are
different
than
others,
as
in
in
most
developments,
but
more
specifically
in
desert
palisades,
where
they
can
vary
depending
on
their
location.
J
The
really
when
you're
looking
at
this
this
house
and
and
the
way
that
we
approached
this
project
and
sort
of,
I
guess
from
a
philosophical
sense,
is-
is
really
to
sort
of
quiet
down
the
architecture,
simplify
the
form
and
to
really
have
all
the
materials
be
really
natural,
you're
noticing
in
the
renderings,
a
we're,
communicating
a
tone
that
is
sort
of
symbiotic
with
the
with
the
the
landscape
or
the
natural
environment,
the
granite
boulders,
the
the
natural
kind
of
dirt,
this
sort
of
wild
vegetation
that
you
find
out
there.
J
One
thing
that
I
learned
on
my
property
that
I
that
I
would
like
to
bring
up
here
you
know
during
this
discussion
is
privacy.
I've
mentioned
this
to
the
developer.
J
Ed
had
many
talks
with
sean
lock
here
about
this,
because
there
is
because
we,
you
know
the
development
allows
for
hikers
to
hike
through
the
the
development
you
get.
A
lot
of
people
out
there
walking
daily.
My
property
is,
is
exposed
like
most
of
the
properties
and
some
of
the
most.
You
know.
Amazing
rules
in
this
development
happen
to
be
that
there's
no
fencing.
J
They
encourage
a
lot
of
glass.
You
know
really
kind
of
modern
architecture,
but
the
challenge
really
is
living
there.
I
have
been
staying
at
the
house
from
time
to
time,
and
I
can
tell
you
everyone
here
that
the
frustration
that
we
have
is
for
privacy
or
the
lack
of
privacy,
and
so
I
think
one
thing
with
the
when
we
develop
this
home,
because
the
the
property
naturally
descends
from
the
west
to
the
east.
J
We
thought
it
was
a
nice
opportunity
to
strike
a
datum
from
the
west,
carry
that
across
and
have
the
house
almost
lift
up
off
the
street.
So
therefore,
when
people
are
walking
by
clients,
don't
feel
so
exposed
when
they're
sitting
in
their
pool
or
having
them
trying
to
have
a
nice
dinner
outside.
So
I
think
one
thing
this
house
does
address
is
something
that
my
house
doesn't
address,
which
is
it
has
privacy.
J
Another
thing
that
you're
seeing
in
the
renderings,
that
is
a
direct
response
to
our
last
home,
would
be
vegetation
and
the
placement
of
trees
and
the
benefit
to
how
the
trees
can
can
help
the
elevation.
So
glenn
was
mentioning
earlier.
The
main
trees
that
are
being
used
in
the
front
which
have
been
approved
by
the
specific
plan
is
the
cast
claw
acacia.
J
It's
a
tree
that
we
we
really
like
a
lot,
but
just
to
kind
of
sum
everything
up,
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
questions
and
I'll.
Allow
the
committee
to
get
into
those
really
the
house
itself
is
is
again
something
we
felt
was
was
a
responsible
design
to
to
continue
the
the
legacy
of
desert
palisades
and
the
legacy
of
what
our
office
does
so
turn
it
over
to
the
committee.
B
My
main
questions
brett,
I
think
it's
a
beautiful
project
and
I
love
the
way
you've
got
it
landscaped
to
create
that
privacy.
Now
my
question
of
just
some
of
the
technical
issues,
I
really
don't
see
enough
mechanical
rooms,
I
mean
you've
got
one
mechanical
room
off
the
garage,
but
the
way
I
figured
you
have
to
have
a
place
for
spa
equipment
pool
equipment,
two,
maybe
three
hvac
units
water
heaters
trash
and
possibly
even
a
sewage
pump
based
on
your
grades.
Where
is
all
that
going
to
go.
J
G
Up,
I'm
not
sure
I
put
them
in
the
presentation.
I
thought
I
did.
J
Let
me
let
me
start
by
answering
the
question
we
we
do
have
upon
entry
and
I
can
pull
up
a
floor
plan
of
the
ground
floor.
We
do
have
a
mechanical
room.
Certainly
it's.
It
is
going
to
be
a
very
efficient
mechanical
room
regarding
mechanical.
We
we
also
intend
on
using
split
systems,
so
you
know
we
will
try
to
minimize
impacts.
We
are
looking
at
vrf
systems
as
well
slow
mine
systems,
so
those
will
be
located
in
the
property
and
will
be
screened
appropriately
regarding
trash.
J
This
is
also
something
that
that
will
have
to
be
further
development.
To
be
honest
with
you,
we
we
came
across
the
same
question
on
our
project
as
well
about
where
trash
is
located
for
us.
You
know
the
the
intention
is
not
to
actually
build
any
more
walls
and
so
we'd
like
to
build
anything
into
the
existing.
I
mean
to
the
structure
itself
to
hide
the
trash
cans.
I
I
intended
to
put
the
trash
cans
inside
of
of
the
garage
that
would
be.
J
That
is
a
that
is
a
conditioned
space,
but
you
know
that's
certainly
where
we
typically
would
like
to
have
them.
I
know
in
the
o2
house,
I've
stayed
there
a
handful
of
times,
that's
where
they
keep
theirs
as
well.
I
kind
of
like
that
idea
just
because
it
kind
of
gets
it
out
of
the
way
and
obviously
with
it
being
temperature
control.
It's
it's
fine
to
be
in
there,
whether
whether
other
ones
other
than
mechanical
and
trash.
What
were
the
pool
equipment.
J
Right
pool
full
equipment
will
have
to
be
located
next
to
the
rf
system,
so
we'll
have
a
mechanical
plan
on
the
outside
that
we're
gonna
have
to
work
into
this.
This
property,
as
as
ken
mentioned
as
glenn
mentioned,
this
is
a
tight
property,
so
we're
trying
not
to
put
too
much
stuff
out
into
the
the
landscape
which
will
have
to
be
approved
by
the
staff
anyway,.
J
J
My
intention
is
the
same
as
what
I
did
at
lot.
3,
which
is
per
california
code,
is
there'll,
be
there
will
be
a
removable
cover
that
will
have
grommets
in
the
in
the
stone,
and
then
there
will
be
a
also
a
fence
that
will
be
around
the
pool
itself
that
can
be
removed
when
using
so
I
have
the
same
condition
at
my
house.
C
J
You
know
they're,
the
the
the
they
encourage
you
to
do
infinity
edge,
pools
right.
We
are
in
hillside,
quote,
unquote
and
so
there's
going
to
be
a
challenge
for
every
one
of
these
pools,
and
these
are
palisades
as
you,
as
you
guys,
have
probably
all
reviewed
a
bunch
of
projects.
J
J
Yeah,
no,
that
was
a
good
question,
so
I
think
you
know
that's
something
that
we
are
concerned
about
as
well.
Our
our
technique
on
the
outside
would
be
a
drainage
spell
off
the
back.
You
know
with
working
with
civil.
That's
that
would
be
the
only
way
to
address
that
concern.
There
would
probably
have
to
be
some
sort
of
relief
off
the
back
sill,
the
bottom
sill
and
then
we'll
have
a
drainage
swell.
C
B
J
B
C
Quick,
what
about
exterior
lighting?
I
don't
know
what
the
palisades
rules
are
in
terms
of
overhead
lighting
for
patios
and
stuff
yeah.
J
We
we're
minimizing
lighting
on
this
project.
We
will
have
surface
mounted,
can
fixtures
so
in
specific
locations.
We
won't
over
light
the
the
overhang
we
have.
We
don't
and
obviously,
on
all
egress
storage.
We
will
have
per
code,
we'll
have
a
a
sconce,
but
other
than
that.
That's
the
only
lights
that
we'll
have
out
there
right.
B
Hey
thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments.
F
I
I
have
a
comment,
sir
tom,
you
know
when
when
I
first
saw
the
landscape
plan-
and
I
appreciate
the
architect
elaborating
on
it-
this
is
one
of
the
more
densely
or
heavily
landscaped
plans
that
we've
seen
the.
F
Is
that
when
you
look
at
the
landscape
plan
and
you
look
at
the
graphic
scale,
the
palo
verde
trees,
the
symbols
of
the
canopies
themselves
are
showing
would
appear
to
be
maybe
12
feet
or
16
feet.
So
in
reality
it
will
be
more
dense
once
those
palo
verdes
get
25
feet
wide
and
so
forth.
So
it's
just
a
comment
for
the
applicant
to
be
aware
of
that.
F
The
level
of
density
is
is
pretty
high
here
and
he
he
may
not
need
as
many
trees
as
he's
actually
shown
and
still
be
able
to
get
the
privacy
they're.
Looking
for.
I
Yeah,
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
I
think
it's
looks
terrific
from
the
street.
I
I
really
appreciate
the
comments
about
the
issues
about
privacy.
I
think
and-
and
maybe
staff
can
reinforce
this
when
they
did
the
guidelines
for
desert
palisade.
I
I
think
they
in
they
intended
that
there
wouldn't
be
as
much
landscaping
around
the
houses
that
it
would
be
much
more
natural
so
that
when
you
look
at
the
development
from
below
from
palm
canyon
or
the
rest
of
palm
springs,
that
you
wouldn't
get
these
high
dense
densely
planted
areas
and
that
it
would
look
like
the
like
houses
on
the
cone
on
the
chino
cone.
So
it's
a
tough
problem,
it's
a
tough
issue
to
achieve
the
privacy
and
yet
still
honor
the
intention
of
the
landscape
guidelines
in
desert
palisades.
I
B
A
G
There
could
be
some
revisions
between
now
and
when
the
planning
commission
reviews
the
project.
I
Yeah,
I
will
move
to
approve
the
project
and
with
the
with
the
comments
that
were
made
about
the
landscaping,
possibly
looking
at
eliminating
some
of
the
trees,
I
either
weather,
because
the
canopy
is
much
larger
than
their
representative
or
because
to
reduce
the
sort
of
overall
over
landscape
look
of
the
property
as
well
as
looking
at
the
plaster,
reglets
and
other
drainage
issues.
J
Thank
you.
Can
I
make
one
more
comment
before
we
head
off.
I
want
to
congratulate
everybody
here,
because
I
was
on
the
I
was.
I
was
part
of
the
planning
commission
meeting
their
day.
I
hear
that
you
guys
will
now
be
the
the
final
say
in
recommending
projects
for
desert
palisades.
I
think
you're
about
to
talk
talk
about
this,
but
I
think
it's
a
huge.
J
B
A
Okay,
do
you
see
the
framed
screen
or
the
whole
screen.
A
Back
on
march,
8th
that
we
introduced
to
you
the
proposal
ordinance
relative
to
the
architectural
review
process,
changes
that
the
city
was
preparing
to
implement
or
introducing
so
that
we
discussed
it
with
you
and
then
the
planning
commission
had
a
public
hearing
on
it
and
they
recommended
it
for
approval.
The
city
council
ultimately
adopted
the
process,
so
that
occurred
on
april
8th
of
this
year
and
so
staff
staff
plans
for
implementation
of
that.
A
We
wanted
to
schedule
this
for
really
just
an
introduction
on
how
that
this
will
change
the
committee's
review
of
projects.
So,
as
you
know
our
current
process,
this
is
typically
what
we.
What
we
see
is
we
receive
an
application.
That's
submitted
the
it's,
usually
a
major
architectural
application
or
a
minor
architectural
application
for
the
major
architectural
applications,
those
go
to
you
for
approval
and
then
for
rule
and
recommendation
to
the
planning
commission.
A
A
Generally,
the
major
architectural
applications
are
not
reviewed
by
council
unless
appealed.
But
so
that's
you
know,
that's
really
our
current
process.
So,
as
I
said,
the
council
did
adopt
the
process,
the
new
review
process
that
will
occur
for
development
permits
and
so
really
it's
it's
kind
of
two
applications
that
are
being
processed.
A
It's
both
a
site
development
permit,
as
well
as
an
architectural
review
application.
So
in
our
new
process,
as
we
introduced
you
back
on
march,
8th,
it
does
still
or
will
now
require
a
pre-submittal
conference
with
staff.
A
A
So
that
happens
in
step
one
as
you
see
here
on
the
screen,
then
after
they've
gotten
those
comments
from
staff.
A
formal
submittal
would
be
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
that
would
include
both
the
architectural
application
and
site
development
permit
application
which
would
submit
to
staff.
We
would
review
all
the
things
that
we
normally
review
prior
to
taking
it
to
planning
commission.
So
we
do
the
internal
routing.
They
would
go
to
the
different
departments.
A
We
would
conduct
our
sql
review,
and
so
all
that
would
occur
and
then
the
item
would
go
to
the
planning
commission
and
the
planning
commission
now
has
specific
criteria
that
they
evaluate
relative
to
the
site
development
permit
and
then
that
really,
once
the
planning
commission
approves
it,
if
it's
just
a
site
development
permit,
the
action
ends
there
at
the
planning
commission
for
that
portion
of
the
review
if
it
requires
other
applications.
A
Like
a
general
plan
amendment
a
rezoning,
a
plan,
development
district,
it
would
go
to
city
council
for
action,
but
that
again
for
typical
projects
like
commercial
buildings,
single-family
hillside
projects,
multi-family
projects
that
doesn't
really
occur
and
then
after
it
gets
through
the
planning
mission
and
step
four.
We
would
the
aac
review
it
for
site,
site
design,
landscape
composition,
color
materials
and
I'll
get
into
that
in
just
a
minute.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
two
applications
that
will
be
submitted
for
a
new
project
that
would
be
the
site
development.
Permit
that
the
planning
commission
acts
on
where
the
planning
commission
reviews
the
use
of
the
uses
that
are
proposed
as
part
of
a
project,
the
site
layout
of
the
project,
the
conformance
to
development
standards,
you
know,
height,
setbacks,
etc
and
then
any
environmental
impacts.
So
the
standard
sql
review
that
we
normally
do.
A
The
architectural
review
process,
as
I
said,
is
typically
a
major
architectural
review
and
or
minor
architectural
review.
After
the
planning
commission
acts
that
you
see
would
act
on
the
subsequent
application
and
they
would
review
the
details,
materials,
colors,
landscaping
and
lighting
and,
as
I
said
again,
specific
criteria
in
just
a
moment.
A
A
The
aac
will
be
renamed
to
the
architectural
review
committee
and
then
our
the
new
ordinance
it
does
define.
Similarly
to
kind
of
how
the
format
of
the
committee
is
established
now,
but
is
it
is
a
new
name
for
the
architectural
review
committee
you're
no
longer
the
advisory
committee,
because
you
are
acting
on
specific
applications
under
the
new
ordinance,
so
the
arc
will
review
new.
A
A
So
as
with
all
hillside
developments,
we
currently
provide
notice
to
adjacent
property
owners
when
we
receive
a
hillside.
Application
would
still
do
that
in
accordance
with
the
requirements
of
our
hillside
ordinance
and
instead
of
providing
notice
prior
to
planning
commission
decision,
we
would
provide
notice
prior
to
the
aac
decision
on
the
hillside
application.
A
So
there's
really
two
notices
that
happen
with
the
hillside
request:
that's
the
initial
submittal
and
then
as
a
notice
to
the
adjacent
node
neighbors
again
ten
days
before
the
committee
reviews
the
application
so
that
adjacent
customers
are
aware
the
application
has
been
received
and
are
aware
that
the
committee
will
review
integration
potentially
if,
if
it's,
if
it's
approved
at
the
first
review
ten
days
before
and
lastly
sign
programs,
the
committee
will
also
have
final
decision
authority,
and
so
that
would
include
both
sign
programs
that
comply
with
the
sign
ordinance
as
well
as
signed
programs
that
are
requesting
deviations
from
the
signed
sign
ordinance.
A
So
the
erc
that
decision
will
be
final
at
the
arc
unless
appealed
to
the
planning
commission.
A
So
this
is
kind
of
hard
to
probably
read
a
little
bit,
but
basically,
what
it
does
is.
It
shows
what
our
existing
processes
are
relative
to
the
different
types
of
architectural
review
applications
that
we
have,
as
well
as
conditional
use
permits
and
signage
applications.
Incentives,
requests
that
we
receive
so
on.
The
left
you'll
see
the
different
architectural
applications
that
we
typically
see.
The
types
are
the
existing
process.
A
Next
to
that
that
those
applications
go
through
and
then
the
new
process
that
you
see
in
the
middle
kind
of
on
the
right
side,
as
well
as
those
relative
to
those
changes.
A
So
what
you
see
here
in
the
red
are
really
the
items
where
applications
have
changed
from
review
to
from
review
by,
for
instance,
under
architecture
review,
major
applications
here
in
the
middle
of
the
screen,
typically
a
lot
of
applications.
Previously
we
went
to
aac
first
and
then
now
staff
has
the
pre-service
conference
for
all
of
these
applications.
The
planning
commission
takes
action
on
an
application
and
then
the
aac
would
review
the
item
afterwards,
as
opposed
to
before.
A
And
as
I
noted,
some
items
no
longer
require
planning
commission
review,
so
those
decisions
would
be
final
at
the
aac
for
the
arc.
Now
there
has
been
some
streamlining
relative
to
conditional
use
permit
applications.
The
planning
commission
would
still
or
would
still
review
cup
applications
for
cell
towers.
A
Charitable
institutions,
government
facilities,
and
whereas
before
that,
also
required
council
that
will
no
longer
be
the
case.
Those
will
be
final
at
the
planning
commission,
but
I
think
the
most
important
thing
relatives
the
arc
after
july,
one
is
that
you
will
be
reviewing
and
deciding
on
hillside
applications
that
are
either
hillside
or
major
thoroughfares
single
family
homes,
as
well
as
sign
programs,
as
well
as
the
fact
that
now
the
arc
will
use
applications
after
the
planning
commission
has
reviewed
architectural
review
after
they
require
their
approval.
A
These
nine
criteria
you've
seen
for
a
very
long
time-
and
it's
been
this
way
for
a
very
long
time,
but
this
all
changes
with
the
new
ordinance
and
there's
more
criteria
and
guidelines
that
both
the
planning
commission
has
as
well
as
the
arc
will
have.
A
So,
in
terms
of
the
arc
criteria
that
you'll
be
doing,
these
criteria
will
have
in
your
staff
memos
after
july.
One
and
basically
the
criteria
as
we'll
go
through
here
is
really
specific
to
architectural
detailing
composition
and
design,
whereas
before
it
was
more
general
here,
we
get
a
bit
more
specific
in
the
ordinance
and
talk
about
treatment
being
consistent
on
all
four
sides
of
a
project
or
a
building.
A
Also,
the
color
scheme
is
appropriate
for
the
context
and
desert
environment
that
we
have
and
that
the
project
is
providing
shading
and
solar
control
were
appropriate
so
based
on
the
conditions
of
each
site
that
the
project
has
these.
These
types
of
details
addressed.
A
The
committee
will
be
looking
at
shading
of
sidewalks
pedestrian
facilities,
ensuring
that
landscaping
is
installed
adjacent
to
pedestrian
areas
to
provide
these
the
shading
amenities
that
are
appropriate
here
in
our
desert
environment.
A
We're
looking,
the
community
will
be
looking
at
the
lighting
plan,
as
well
as
conformance
of
proposed
lighting
to
the
city's
outdoor
lighting,
ordinance,
we're
looking
at
sign
locations
and
placements.
Are
they
appropriate
for
the
locations
and
as
well
as
the
sizes
of
the
proposed
signs.
A
A
And
lastly,
that
the
project
is
consistent
with
any
design
criteria
that
we
might
have
relative
to
projects
either
in
a
specific
plan
or
planned
development
district
that
might
have
established
standards.
So,
for
instance,
the
mirlon
project
has
design
guidelines.
The
senior
project
has
design
guidelines.
So
in
those
cases
we
would
ask
for
your
review
of
those
items,
so
those
are
really
kind
of
the
main
main
points
that
I
wanted
to
go
through.
A
I'm
and
if
there's
any
questions
relative
to
the
process
or
the
new
criteria
or
the
role
of
the
ac,
I'm
certainly
happy
to
answer
that.
So
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you,
mr
chair.
B
Thank
you
david.
I
think
it
was
a
clear
presentation
and
I
think,
we're
understanding
our
new
role.
I
kind
of
look
at
it
as
a
promotion
that
now
we're
going
to
be
the
final
say.
So
in
a
lot
of
these
things,
and
I
I
think
I
think
the
new
system
should
work
a
lot
better.
B
A
You're
you're
correct
when
we
establish
our
yearly
calendars
for
your
meetings,
planning,
commission
meetings,
hsb
meetings,
we
went
up
by
our
clerk's
office
and
they
review
it
for
issues
relative
to
not
only
holidays
national
holidays,
but
also
potential
conflicts
with
religious
events
or
dates.
So
that's
evidently
yesterday
was
there
was
a
conflict
with
a
religious
event.