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From YouTube: Historic Site Preservation Board | Jan 3 2023
Description
Regular Meeting of the City of Palm Springs HSPB, held January 3rd, 2023
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Three
four
four
for
the
viewer,
I
believe
with
one
up:
okay,
thank
you,
correct
machine,
yeah,
great
all
right,
so
Move,
Along
pop
a
comment.
This
time
you've
been
35
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
hfpb
on
agenda
item
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
manager
addiction
available.
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Although
the
Historic
Site
preservation
board
values
will
come
in
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
item
not
listed
on
the
post
that
adren
deck.
There
will
be
three
minutes
to
find
for
each
speaker
that
we
should
seek
testimonials
of
public
hearing.
Items
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
hearing.
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Members
of
the
public
would
like
to
comment
on
all
other
items
are
directed
to
comment
under
this
portion
of
the
agenda
at
NAS
and
to
anyone
here
that
wants
to
comment
on
a
non-public
hearing,
item
or
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda.
If
so,
please
turn
on
your
microphone,
raise
your
hand
and
give
us
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
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For
okay,
great
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
all
for
your
patience
with
me
tonight,
as
this
is
only
my
second
time
sharing
a
meeting
so
I'm
doing
my
best
here,
all
right,
so
we're
gonna
proceed
with
public
hearings,
so
that
would
be
a
gender
item
2A,
and
that
is
an
application
by
the
city
of
Palm
Spring
for
historic,
designation
of
the
Security
First
National
Bank,
located
at
500
South
Indian,
Canyon
Drive,
and
maybe
we
have
a
gap
report.
Please.
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All
right
is
that
visible
on
everyone's
end:
wonderful,
all
right
for
the
record,
so
our
Union
historic
preservation,
officer
and
Associate
planner
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
The
first
item
before
you
today
is
an
application
for
a
class
one
site:
historic
designation
of
the
Security
First
National
Bank.
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The
property
was
formally
known
as
the
Security
First
National
Bank,
which
was
completed
in
1959..
This
is
a
one-story
commercial
building
which
was
completed
in
the
post-world
War
II
context,
and
it's
it's
during
a
time
where
it
marks
the
change
and
vitality
that
was
brought
to
the
southern
part
of
downtown.
As
the
small
Financial
District
began
to
emerge,
the
photo
on
the
right
shows
the
building
right
after
its
completion.
Of
course,
both
of
these
items
are
both.
These
drawings
are
sourced
by
the
Palm
Springs
Historical
Society.
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The
photo
shown
here
are
of
the
existing
conditions
on
the
site.
Today,
hspv
did
conduct
a
site
visit.
The
unique
massing
of
the
building
shows
a
play
of
solid
and
void.
The
exterior
of
the
building
is
cloud
and
masonry
panels,
and
it
does
have
a
glass
curtain
wall
at
the
main
entrance.
The
siding
of
the
building
responds
to
both
pedestrian
and
vehicular
circulation,
which
is
still
in
use.
Today,
the
drive-through
teller
window,
which
was
A
New
Concept
at
the
time
of
its
Inception,
is
still
there.
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Although
it
doesn't
function
as
a
drive-through
teller,
you
can
see
the
remnants
of
that
and
the
building
Incorporated
public
art
along
the
northwest
corner
of
the
property
where
the
original
pedestrian
entrance
is
located.
These
images
here
demonstrate
again
the
massing
of
the
amassing
of
the
resource,
and
you
can
see
the
details
of
the
exterior
materials
and
also
the
Landscaping
which
these
the
buildings
are
placed
in.
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Let's
see
staff
evaluated
the
application
first,
based
on
the
listed
Criterion
for
the
designation,
that's
listed
in
the
municipal
code,
I
believe
everyone's
very
familiar,
but
I
did
want
to
put
these
criterias
up
on
the
on
the
board.
The
the
Criterion
that
staff
found
after
its
analysis
for
this
particular
project
was
Criterion.
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Two
three
and
five
are
met
in
accordance
to
Criterion
two,
the
artist
associated
with
the
bar
relief
Lawrence
Kenny
Stevens
is
recognized
internationally
for
depicting
the
American
southwest
in
a
romanticized
method
through
his
art,
and
you
find
details
of
his
life
and
his
work
in
the
report.
Criterion
three
is
met
because
the
architecture
of
the
building
exemplifies
an
evolution
of
architectural
style
from
a
traditional
neoclassical
style
to
modernism.
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It
does
capture
the
shift
of
the
financial
banking
industry
at
the
time
in
Palm
Springs,
where
there's
a
shift
towards
convenience
and
how
the
the
importance
of
the
vehicular
access
is
also
being
incorporated
into
the
building.
So
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
this
shift
towards
modernism
tries
to
incorporate
criteria.
Number
five
Harkens
back
to
this
idea
again
of
high
artistic
value,
I'm
an
individual
genius.
The
Terracotta
bar
relief
panels
commissioned
specifically
for
this
building,
depicts
the
local
history
of
Palm
Springs
and
as
a
significant
artist.
The
Incorporated
panels
exhibit
artistic
value
of
importance.
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so
Point
c
1
B,
which
talks
about
the
Integrity.
There
are
seven
topics
when,
when
evaluating
integrity
and
they're
listed
here
on
this
page
location,
design,
setting
materials,
workmanship,
viewing
and
Association,
although
there
have
been
some
minor
changes
that
have
been
made
to
the
property
over
the
years,
staff
concludes
that
the
site
today
retains
historic
Integrity
in
all
seven
areas
and
again
that
is
clearly
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
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This
list,
as
you
can
see,
includes
characteristics
related
to
the
building,
as
well
as
the
site,
the
simple
orthogonal
forms
and
the
cantilevered
canopies
asymmetrical
facades
and
the
geometric
forms
of
the
massing
with
with
limited
ornamentation
irregular
plans.
All
of
these
are
reminiscent
of
a
modernist
Arctic
architectural
style.
There
is
the
use
of
veneers
of
the
Natural
Stone,
and
the
the
surrounding
landscape
was
reflected
as
a
natural
desert
lands
free,
yeah
Escape,
which
was
purposefully
cited
for
this
particular
building
the
site
placement.
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Interestingly
enough
also
reveals
the
design
intent
of
the
the
architect
and
the
designers
addressing
circulation,
specifically
for
both
the
emerging
automobile
and
the
pedestrian,
the
walking
pedestrian
experience.
So
all
of
these
and
the
Terracotta
ball
reliefs,
as
are
all
identified
as
a
character,
defining
features
for
this
property.
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In
conclusion,
the
Security
First
National
Bank
at
500,
South
Indian
Canyon,
qualifies
as
a
class
one
Historic
Landmark
pursuant
of
the
municipal
code
as
it
meets
as
it
meets
Criterion
two
three
and
five.
The
code
is
specific,
that
at
least
one
of
the
three
criteria
or
one
one
Criterion
has
to
be
made,
and
in
this
instance
we
see
that
three
are
met
and
the
property
does
confess
a
significant
and
a
sufficient
amount
of
historic
Integrity
to
qualify
as
a
class
one
Landmark
site.
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We
do
want
to
make
note
that
the
owner's
position
for
this
designation
application,
the
owner,
does
not
support
the
proposed
historic
designation.
However,
staff
recommends
that
hspv
adopt
resolution
137,
recommending
city
council
designation
of
the
site,
as
it
meets
all
of
the
needed
Criterion
to
qualify
for
class
one
designated
site.
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The
draft
resolution
is
attached
in
your
packet.
It
is
attachment
B.
Unfortunately,
the
numbers
kind
of
got
skewed
there
in
the
packet,
but
it
is
following
the
vicinity
map
in
your
packet.
So
a
draft
resolution
is
located
in
in
your
packet
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
address
any
questions
that
the
board
may
have
regarding
the
staff
reports.
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One
is
the
the
last
bullet
point:
the
Lush
landscape
design,
and
then
there
was
an
Associated
footnote
on
that
page
number.
Three,
which
you
know
I
think
does
a
good
job
of
talking
about
the
landscape,
but
I
guess
I
was
thinking.
Maybe
maybe
slightly
amend
that
because
Lush
to
me
is
about
the
vegetation
and
the
greenery
and
the
footnote
is
really
relating
to
you
know
the
rugged
umness
of
the
landscape,
so
maybe
just
incorporate
that
into
a
lush
and
I.
Just
think
it's
important
maybe
later
on
you
know.
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If
someone
wanted
to
change
the
landscaping
and
we're
not
specifically
addressing
you,
know
the
boulders
and
the
Rocks
that
are
an
important
part
of
that
landscape
design,
so
maybe
just
a
little
bit
of
rewording
and
then
on
the
same
well,
there's
only
one
set
the
the
character
defining
features.
Also
the
automobile
Centric
design
I
was
thinking
and
I'm,
not
sure.
H
If
we've
done
this,
or
at
least
since
I've,
been
on
the
board,
actually
mentioning
the
parking
lot
as
part
of
the
auto-centric
design,
certainly
along
with
the
drive
through
feature
because
I
think
you
know
just
these
surrounding
parking
is
definitely
an
important
feature
of
the
site
overall,
especially
relating
to
Auto
orientation.
From
that
particular
time
period,.
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C
Great
thank
you.
So
much
I
just
had
a
couple
observations
and
comments.
Firstly,
I
wanted
to
thank
Susan
Fuquay
Johnson
for
writing
the
initial
historic
resources
report
for
this
property,
which
I
thought
was
very,
very,
very
well
done
and
I
know
the
perfect
began
over
two
years
ago
with
the
preservation
foundation.
So
it's
been
a
long
wait.
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So
r
e:
u
e
l,
pretty
simple
typo
there,
but
I
thought
it
should
be
addressed
since
he
lives
and
works
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
then
one
other
question
really
or
comment
which
I
think
I
kind
of
draw.
Perhaps
when
we
make
the
motion,
but
it's
concerning
from
black
found
thing
that
was
placed
on
the
property
fairly
recently
and
it
just
to
the
left
of
the
Terracotta
Barbie
League
panel,
and
it
actually
appeared
in
one
of
the
photos
that
Sarah
had
up
in
her
presentation.
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J
So
this
is
Brad
shelf
I'm.
One
of
the
owners,
Jeff
Piper,
is
also
on
the
phone.
He'll
probably
speak
after
I.
Do
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
at
least
address
this,
as
you
probably
noted
that
when
we
did
the
field
trip
that
we
are
strongly
opposed
to
the
property
being
designated
as
historic,
and
you
know
the
main
reason
is,
it
will
create
a
hardship
for
us
as
the
owners
of
the
property.
J
J
The
chances
of
us
getting
another
bank
branch
should
they
leave
is
probably
slim
to
none,
so
modifications
would
have
to
be
made
to
the
structure
to
get
a
new
tenant
in
place
and
by
you
limiting
what
can
be
done
to
the
the
structure
for
a
new
tenant.
It's
going
to
seriously
diminish
the
type
of
use
that
we
can
get
in
there.
So
we'll
probably
go
from
an
A-Class
retail
tenant
to
something
far
less
than
that.
J
You
know
you
can
already
see
what's
happening
with
the
A-Class
and
we
were
not
aware
of
it.
We
we
got
pictures
today
that
there's
homeless
and
some
drug
issues
going
on
in
the
parking
lot
and
I
just
caution
you
that
if
we
can't
change
the
building,
we
can't
lease
the
building
it
gets
boarded
up
or
we
have
a
less
class
retail
tenant
you're
only
going
to
have
more
problems
in
that
area.
So
again.
C
C
I
I'm
one
of
the
other
owners
as
well
and
I
think
the
underlying
part
of
this
is
we
understand.
What's
Happening
Here
Is
Our
intention
is
to
change
nothing.
We.
If
everything
went
perfectly,
we
wouldn't
touch
a
thing.
We're
just
concerned
about
what
this
is
going
to
look
like,
Union
bank
has
been
purchased
by
U.S
Bank
U.S
bank
has
another
Branch
just
down
the
street,
and
one
of
them
is
going
to
go
away
or
all
of
them
will
go
away.
I
Who
knows
what's
going
to
happen,
so
this
is
part
of
where
our
concern
is
we're
just
trying
to
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
a
great
location
that
it
has
a
great
tenant.
That
represents
what
it
should
be
and
that's
better
for
all
of
us
and
we're
just
the
limitations
are
just
what's
concerned
us.
That's
why
we're
against
it.
Thank
you.
C
L
Yeah
I
I
apologize,
I
was
I,
didn't
realize.
I
had
to
call
at
five
o'clock
to
get
comment,
but
whatever
thank
you
for
mentioning
that
in
a
few
years
ago,
I
did
work
with
the
lowest
Tenney
Stevens
Foundation,
to
bring
awareness
to
these
panels
that
are
on
this
particular
building
and
I
still
think
that
they
are
very
interesting
and
need
to
be
preserved
and
I'm.
L
A
hundred
percent
behind
your
making
this
a
class
one
historic
building
I
think
that
it's
a
very
unique
and
some
of
the
things
in
the
report.
Although
I
read
it
briefly
today,
there
there
were
some
comments
about
the
Landscaping
when
that
particular
building
was
built.
The
Tamaris
tree
was
on
that
corner
as
part
of
the
property
from
the
previous
Hotel
kind
of
buildings
that
were
there
and
The
Architects,
and
the
owners
of
the
bank
at
the
time
really
wanted
to
incorporate
the
landscape
with
that
tree.
L
So
that
tree
is
still
there
and
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
somehow
the
landscape
is
a
little
bit
more
protected,
although
it
has
changed
because
it
used
to
have
a
walkway
and
some
water
features.
Basically,
it's
about
80
percent
of
what
that
building
was
designed
for
the
parking
lot
in
the
back
as
well
was
designed
in
the
same
way.
L
L
G
Either
I'm
okay
yeah
this
is
this-
is
Chris
Jairus.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
go
ahead:
yeah
hi
I
live
on
534,
South,
Calle
aho,
so
literally
across
the
street,
from
from
the
union
bank
and
I
guess,
I
have
a
question
about
this.
I
mean
you
guys
have
heard
my
commentary
on
on.
You
know
the
then
and
Brad
alluded
to
it
and
and
I
couldn't
agree
with
him
more
that
you
know
if
this
Bank
leaves
and
this
property
ends
up
empty.
That's
that's
bad!
G
It's
bad
for
the
city,
it's
bad
for
the
neighbors
and
I.
Don't
understand
why
if
the
owner
is
against
having
a
designation
that
would
affect
their
ability
to
use
a
property,
why
we
would,
as
a
city,
want
to
do
that
I
mean
that
you're
affecting
people
who
live
in
the
area
as
well?
So
can
you
kind
of
comment
to
that.
C
C
J
This
is
Brad
again,
I
will
speak.
You
know,
I
keep
hearing
the
tablets
being
mentioned.
We
are
happy
to
donate
those
tablets,
so
just
keep
that
in
mind
that
if
that
truly
is
one
of
the
the
main
features
we're
happy
to
donate,
that
to
a
museum
or
the
city
hall
or
wherever
you
would
like
us
to
deliver
them
we're
happy
to
donate
them.
That's
all
I
have
to
say.
C
C
C
H
Oh
okay,
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
property
owners
for
attending
the
meeting,
and
you
know
sharing
your
thoughts
with
us
on
this
and
I've
been
in
preservation
for
a
long
time.
So
your
types
of
concerns
are
certainly
not
uncommon,
but
I
also
think
that
you
know
our
job
here
today.
As
I'm
sure
staff
has
reminded
you-
and
we
also
like
to
make
sure
the
public
understands
is
really
just
to
apply
the
criteria.
H
Does
this
building
or
does
this
building
not
meet
the
city's
criteria
for
listing
as
a
city,
Landmark
class,
one
so
I
think
you
know.
In
my
opinion,
the
staff
report
certainly
made
that
case,
as
did
the
two,
the
report
that
they
commissioned
and
the
previous
report
from
Susan.
So
I
think
it's
in
my
mind.
H
It's
it's
unquestionable
and
I
support
the
nomination
of
this
property,
but
I
did
want
to
make
a
comment
that
you
know
it's
a
really
a
great
opportunity
for
adaptive,
reuse
and
designation
doesn't
mean
you
can't
do
anything
to
a
building.
It
just
means
that
what
is
done
is
thoughtfully
done
so
that
it
does
retain
most
of
the
character,
defining
features
that
were
discussed
in
the
staff
report
that
make
the
building
significant
and
important.
In
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
H
We
have
a
savings
and
loan
that
is
now
a
museum
in
the
city,
so
it
can
be
done.
It
takes
some
a
lot
of
creativity
and
you
know
a
lot
of
dedication,
and
certainly
you
have
people
like
that
in
Palm,
Springs
and
people
who
want
to
come
to
Palm
Springs
and
do
projects
like
that.
So
I
wouldn't
necessarily
despair
that
if
this
Bank
chain
is
closed
or
this
branch
that
there's
no
hope
for
this
building,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
Hope
for
this
building
and
it's
certainly
in
a
great
location
as
well.
C
C
Not
muted,
oh
okay
can
I
drift
off
that
every
everyone
please
have
the
microphone
on
mute
who's,
not
speaking.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
much
I'll
go
ahead
and
finish
real
quickly
here,
having
been
a
customer
at
that
bank
for
over
15
years
from
when
it
was
Union
Bank
of
California.
Until
now,
when
it's
just
Union
Bank,
even
through
the
pandemic,
I've
seen
it
continuing
quite
successfully
of
the
local
bank,
I
feel
like
the
people
from
the
community.
C
I
know
they're
going
to
do
their
bankings
I'm
friendly
with
the
colors.
You
know,
or
certainly
a
different
world
for
banking
today,
but
the
building
is
much
loved
and
celebrated
by
customers.
I
even
remember
going
there
when
it
was
a
playhouse,
but
we
period
I
believe
back
in
the
90s.
So
it
is
a
very
important
building,
Community,
not
just
for
architecture
but
also
as
a
meeting
place.
C
So
you
know
sometimes
the
only
time
you
see
people
is
when
we
go
to
the
bank
and
if
post-pandemic
world
is
so
not
to
be
able
to
interact
with
people
again
and
see
them.
I
did
want
to
kind
of
agree
with
Mr
grave
comments
regarding
the
Landscaping,
because
that
tree
on
the
corner
of
Indian
and
Ramon
is
actually
a
mystery,
not
a
camera
three,
and
it
is
an
old
growth
Mystique
that
predate
the
building
and
it's
part
of
the
former
hotel
that
was
on
that
site.
C
B
I
just
want
to
share
with
the
board
that
staff
has
had
extensive
conversations
with
the
ownership
of
the
building.
We've
talked
about
the
permitted
uses
that
are
allowed
in
that
zone
and
we've
walked
them
through
the
various
procedures
that
are
required
to
do
any
kind
of
alterations
to
the
exterior
of
a
commercial
building
in
the
downtown.
So
regardless
of
designation
or
not,
the
building
would
need
to
go
through
processes
with
the
planning
department
for
alterations.
D
I
think
that
the
staff
report
was
was
well
documenting
the
staff
position,
along
with
the
comments
about
the
landscape.
There
were
some
pretty
detailed
discussions
about
that
landscape
and
keeping
it
that
broad
idea
of
the
desertscape
As
in
that
footnote
was
was
trying
to
grasp
at
that.
Just
being
cognizant
of
including
specific
features
becomes
a
challenge
and
so
keeping
it
that
broad
idea
of
the
overall
landscape
was
the
intention.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clarification.
C
Great,
thank
you
so
much
so
going
back
to
my
earlier
comment
about
the
black
kind
of
thing
that
you
to
the
left
of
the
biology
panel,
in
which
your
photos,
because
I
know
I'm
going
to
be
making
a
motion
here
for
nomination
of
the
historic
side.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
motion
path-
and
it
goes
to
city
council-
that
anything
that
were
added
like
the
Blackstone
thing,
which
doesn't
really
contribute
to
the
site,
could
be
removed.
If
necessarily
I
I,
don't
know
what.
C
If
therefore
I
don't
know
what
job
and
can
help
explain
that
or
perhaps
the
owner
can
explain
it,
but
things
like
that
that
have
been
added
just
you
know,
piece
by
piece
over
the
years
that
don't
really
make
sense,
and
nor
do
I
know
if
they
were
permitted.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
any
of
that
ephemera
or
extra
stock
that
doesn't
will
contribute
to
the
side
is
allowed
to
be
removed.
At
some
point.
D
Foreign,
if
I
can
add
in
terms
of
the
fencing,
it
is
possible
that
that
may
have
been
placed
there
as
a
building
code
requirement.
It's
unclear
to
me
I
know
that
there
is
a
ramp
that
goes
up
on
on
that
side
of
the
entry.
I
think
it's
used
as
an
emergency
entrance
as
of
now,
and
so
it
may
be
a
building
requirement.
H
Oh
yeah,
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
I
think
it
was
Mr
jairs
who
brought
up
the
nomination
of
properties
without
owner
consent.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
it
does
differ
from
City
to
city
that
in
Palm
Springs
the
ordinance
nominations
can
proceed
without
owner
consent.
So
it
actually
is
part
of
the
city's
preservation.
Ordinance.
H
D
K
H
C
Great
thank
you
Christopher
admin
and
staff
member
Yoon
for
the
Pokemon
and
remember
Hamilton,
for
that
clarification.
I.
Think
the
fact
that
the
hfpb
initiated
this
part
of
the
work
plan
really
underscores
how
important
we
think
of
building
a
and
why
we're
presenting
it
for
a
nomination
tonight.
So
soon,
though,
further
discussion
is
there
any
further
discussion,
I,
don't
think
so.
Great
so
may
I
go
for
a
motion.
Please.
E
Thank
you,
I'll
make
a
motion.
I
can
yeah
I.
Concur
that
this
the
Security
First
National
Bank
meets
the
definition
of
a
historic
resource
based
on
Criterion
two
three
and
five
of
the
Palm
Springs
historic
preservation,
ordinance
and
I
make
a
motion
to
adopt
hspb
resolution
137,
recommending
that
the
city
council
designate
this
property
located
at
500
South
Indian
Canyon
as
a
class.
One
landmark.
C
No
okay,
great
so
being
a
motion
by
member
Miller
and
a
second
by
member
Harrison
I
think
we
can
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote
any
further
discussion,
nothing
none!
All
in
favor,
please
say
hi
hi,
so
the
motion
carries
with
three
members
voting,
one
induction
and
one
absent
I
believe
that
was
correct.
That
member
again
great!
Thank
you
all
right.
Any
opposed,
nope,
okay,
all
right
I!
Guess
we
can
move
along
wonderful
all
right.
C
A
C
A
D
D
Moving
on
to
the
next
items,
this
property
is
identified
as
a
class
3
site
and
the
application
that's
before
you
today
board
is
a
request
for
major
alterations
to
this
class
3
site.
This
property,
as
you
know,
is
located
in
the
Old
Las
Palmas
neighborhood,
and
it
is
residential,
Zone
and
staff
and
hspb
did
conduct
a
site
visit
the
site
in
December.
Now
these
photos
are
representing
the
existing
conditions
of
the
home.
D
Today,
I
I
wish
I
had
moved
that
trash
can
that's
sitting
right
in
front
of
the
front
door,
but
I
think
everyone
has
an
idea
of
the
front
elevation
there
and,
as
you
see
in
these
photos,
the
residence
was
designed
as
a
simplified,
Spanish
colonial
revival
style
and
it
was
in
it-
was
completed
during
the
period
known
as
Palm
Springs
between
the
wars.
These
photos
that
you
see
an
arraignment
you,
let
me
see
if
you
can
see
it
with
my
arrow
here.
D
The
applicant
supplied
a
drone
photo
of
the
site
as
a
whole,
which
is
is
quite
helpful,
and
then
we
have
the
site
from
the
street,
which
you
can
see
with
the
wall
and
the
shrubs
is
makes
it
a
little
bit
difficult
to
see.
But
that's
the
street
view
of
the
site,
and
then
we
have
photos
of
that
front,
elevation,
the
front
main
elevation
and
then
the
rear
inside
the
property.
D
D
D
D
Happens
going
again
deeper
into
the
code
language,
specifically
as
a
class
3
site.
Hspb
has
some
two
options:
one
to
place
a
state
of
demolition
of
120
days
with
the
idea
of
pending
for
a
redesignation
of
the
site
to
a
class
one
or
two
or
the
second
option,
is
to
take
no
action
and
allow
the
applicant
to
proceed
with
this
project.
D
In
order
to
proceed
with
that
state
of
demolition,
it's
very
clearly
noted
in
the
code
that
the
site
must
be
found
to
possess
exceptional
historic
significance
and
meet
the
criteria
for
designation,
while
the
site
appears
to
have
little
or
no
change.
In
more
recent
years,
staff
does
find
that
a
site
is
not
an
example
of
an
exceptional
representation
of
a
Spanish
colonial
revival,
style
architecture.
D
In
summary,
the
simplified,
the
existing
simplified
standard,
Spanish
colonial
revival,
structure
that
you
see
at
448,
West,
Hermosa
Place,
did
not
meet
the
criteria
in
the
municipal
code
to
be
eligible
for
a
class
one
or
Class
2
designation
the
owner's
position
for
this
property.
The
owners
are
not
seeking
designation
status
for
this
site,
and
we
wish
to
continue
with
their
project
and
staff's
recommendation
based
on
the
findings.
Is
that
hspb
take
no
action
in
direct
staff
to
work
with
the
applicant
to
process
this
application?
D
Administratively,
we
did
include
two
suggestions
listed
below
here.
One
was
related
to
that
proposed
Gable
front
feature
to
remove
and
maintain
that
simple
front
facade,
and
the
second
was
to
maintain
the
deeply
recessed
openings.
We
find
at
the
front
facade
just
to
keep
in
character
with
that
original
design.
D
Those
are
really
suggestions
for
how
the
alteration
may
could
possibly
move
forward
with
a
little
bit
more.
A
mess.
I
guess
with
the
existing
structure,
but
in
terms
of
the
finding
stuff
does
not
find
that
it
does
qualify
to
be
designated
as
a
class
one
or
class
two
according
to
our
criteria
and
according
to
the
idea
of
an
exemplary
example.
D
If
hspd
has
any
questions
related
to
the
staff
report,
I'm
happy
to
address
those
like
I
said.
This
is
a
very
quick
overview
of
the
stuff
report
itself.
There's
some
detail
in
there.
If
you
would
like
to
go
over
those
I'm
happy
to
do
that
as
well,
but
I'd
like
to
take
I'm
happy
to
take
any
clarifying
questions
at
this
time.
M
M
A
M
J
M
Should
clarify
we're
proposing
the
the
windows
would
be
replaced
with
French
doors,
to
kind
of
engage
the
front
yard
because
we're
transforming
the
front
yard
into
sort
of
the
outdoor
space.
So
we
want
the
the
owners
want
to
have
a
little
more
connection,
but
the
width
of
the
the
width
of
the
the
doors
will
be
the
same
as
the
existing
windows.
C
Okay,
great
I'm,
all
I
have
you
here,
since
none
of
my
other
board
members
have
questions
at
this
time.
I
had
several
so
I
took
time
from
the
street.
You
were
unable
to
see
the
front
the
side
of
the
house
when
the
gate
was
closed
because
of
Hedges
and
whatever
wall
material
and
Gates
were
there
well.
That
will
be
the
case
when
the
project
is
completed.
Yeah.
M
M
C
M
M
C
He
was
the
publisher
of
the
Limelight
news
and
a
Pioneer,
and
he
was
also
a
realtor.
He
worked
with
Helen
Hicks,
who
was
the
son
of
Alex,
who
seems
like.
Could
have
been
the
Builder
of
this
house
and
then,
of
course,
I
went
down
to
rabbit
hole
and
it
appeared
that
in
1934
it
was
bought
by
Mabel
Meyer,
who
was
married
to
mendelmeyer
the
famous
daughter
and
contractor
who,
if
I
read
from
the
first
line
or
true
of
his
obituary
Mendo
Maya,
veteran
La
daughter,
does
April
2nd
1955..
C
C
So
it
was
lots
of
links
here
and
if
the
pity
we
can't
really
solve
it
all,
but
it
sounds
like
you
and
the
owners
are
really
kind
of
sympathetic
to
the
nature
of
the
original
design
of
the
house
and
the
history
of
the
house.
So
I
would
just
doubt
that
you
be
mindful
of
that
throughout
the
whole
classroom
and
all
the
recommendations
as
much
as
possible.
Yes,.
M
That's,
but
but
we're
not
clear
on
yeah
I
was
wondering
from
you
what
the
the
a
the
date
was
of
that
fire
Insurance
map,
because
you
know
that
the
only
the
only
sort
of
concrete
evidence
I
had
of
when
the
house
was
built
was
the
title
report
going
to
Mabel
Myers.
That
said,
that
gave
sort
of
ccnr's
for
the
property
and
so
and
that
that
the
property
that,
like
the
meets
and
Bounds
that's
described
in
that
title
report,
corresponds
to
what
they
have
now.
C
H
C
Okay,
I'd
like
to
make
an
amendment
in
motion
if
possible,
and
that
would
be
just
that
it
include
staff
recommendation
which
is
listed
on
page
one
of
the
stop
report
to
remove
the
proposed
Gable
front
entry
feature
to
maintain
the
simple
design
of
the
front
facade
and
to
maintain
the
deeply
soft
opening
on
the
front
facade
to
keep
in
character
with
the
original
design
intact.
I.
H
C
I
B
I'm
gonna
actually
take
this
for
you,
I
may
Sarah.
So,
as
you
know,
the
council
is
working
on
getting
boarded
commission
meetings
open,
but
they
are
seeking
the
input
from
the
boards
and
commissions
themselves.
So
if
the
board
would
like
to
make
a
recommendation
that
it
be
going
back
to
open
in-person
meetings,
that
would
be
what
you
would
be
passing
forward
as
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council.
B
K
What
we're
actually
can
can
I
interact
because
there's
there's
been
some
changes
to
that.
So
actually,
the
city
council
has
recently
determined
that
it
is
up
to
each
individual
board
and
commission
to
determine,
as
an
interim
measure,
how
they
want
to
move
forward
right
now.
So
so
we
we
actually
do
with
the
support
of
it,
have
hybrid
options
set
up,
and
in
fact
that
is
now
a
city
policy.
K
So
if
we
go
back
to
in-person,
zoo,
in-person
meetings,
I'm
sorry,
we
will
offer
them
in
a
hybrid
format
where
the
commission
and
certain
members
of
the
public
and
staff
could
be
in
your
case
in
the
small
conference
room
here
at
City
Hall.
Well,
other
members
of
the
public
would
be
given
the
opportunity
to
join
remotely
because
we
want
to
you
know,
keep
that
increased
access
open
to
people
who
may
have
been.
You
know
using
those
different
formats
of
participating
during
these
coveted
years.
K
K
C
Great
thank
you
Mr
hadwin,
so
I
got.
We
can
have
comment
from
the
very
board.
Members
I'll
go
just
very
very
quickly
that
one
thing
I've
Loved
about
being
able
to
zoom
is
that
I.
Don't
miss
a
word
because
I
have
I,
have
double
captioning
I
have
the
freeze,
captioning
and
then
I
have
my
own,
which
is
just
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
there
and
I'm
not
missing
anything.
C
C
So
typically
it's
easy
for
me
to
understand
my
fellow
Commissioners
and
board
members,
as
well
as
staff
members,
because
we're
all
sitting
around
the
table
and
I
can
see
them.
I
can
hear
them
they're
loud
enough.
I
can
read
the
lips,
definitely
be,
but
it's
hard
for
me
sometimes
to
hear
an
applicant
who
got
the
mic
or
you
know
just
something
something
like
that.
So
I
think
that
would
be
my
biggest
component.
C
C
H
A
L
H
Interim
decision
I
would
like
to
stay
in
the
zoom
format,
as
my
vote.
I
do
want
to
just
say
briefly
and
I
serve
on
a
state
commission
and
of
course,
we
travel
to
Sacramento
quarterly
for
those
meetings
and
then
went
to
zoom
and
the
meetings
ran
really
well
zoom
and
I
think
a
lot
of
members
of
the
public.
Of
course
you
know
that
was
traveling
to
Sacramento.
H
H
It
was
I,
don't
know
if
they're
probably
working
a
lot
of
this
out
too,
and
it
may
not
be
a
permanent
problem,
but
we
were
not
able
to
see
the
public
like
we
can
here
in
this
format
we
were
listening
to
them
and
the
audio
was
absolutely
horrific.
I
missed,
we
missed
probably
50
percent
of
what
they
were
saying,
so
it
just
and
then
we
immediately
went
back
to
all
Zoom.
At
that
point
we
tried
it
like.
H
There
was
one
meeting
afterwards
where
I
stayed
home
and
did
the
zoom,
so
they
did
two
meetings
like
that.
We're
back
to
zoom
again,
but
if
we're
doing
an
interim
I
think,
maybe
a
permanent
decision
would
be
a
little
more
of
a
discussion,
and
certainly
you
know
our
chair
would
probably
want
to
be
on
that.
Chair.
Huff
would
want
to
be
in
on
that
discussion
as
well,
but
I'm
all
for
zoom
as
an
interim
solution.
K
K
Governor's
thinking,
but
when
that
happens
as
I
understand
it,
the
brown
act
will
require
a
quorum
of
the
board
to
be
present
in
the
room
and
which
is
advertised
for
the
meeting
I
believe
there
are
some
changes
to
the
brown
act
that
came
into
effect
at
January.
1
I
need
to
get
a
download
on
what
exactly
those
changes
are,
but
what
I
do
understand
that
they
are
is
that
there
would
be
exceptions.
You
know,
member
Hanson
as
you're
mentioning
should
you
need
to
be
in
Sacramento
for
something
that
might
conflict
with
this
meeting.
K
You
might
have
the
opportunity
to
be
remote
in
an
hspb
meeting.
Should
you
be
away,
or,
of
course,
for
Illness,
but
I
do
think
you
know
under
the
brown
act
as
I
understand
it,
should
the
emergency
order
be
lifted,
a
quorum
needs
to
be
present
in
the
room
so
yeah.
This
that's
why
this
is
kind
of
being
described
as
interim
of
the
choice,
because,
eventually
I
don't
think
we
will
have
the
choice.
F
C
D
C
K
Very
just
one
clarification,
and
that
can
that
would
need
a
decision
by
the
city
council
so
for
this
is
where
I
think
you
were
going
with
your
last
series
of
comments.
If
you
wish
to
go
back
to
an
alternate
time
that
isn't
in
the
evening,
that
is
where
we
are
pulling
our
boards
and
commissions
and
having
them
sort
of
make
a
decision
at
this
meeting.
Whether
you
want
us
to
take
that
information
back
to
the
city
council
to
see
if
you're
able
to
change
the
time,
so
just
a
little
clarification
there
thanks.
C
F
E
Yeah
I
would
say:
I'm
I'm
fine,
with
starting
at
five,
let's
say
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
meetings
that
are
available
to
the
majority
of
the
public
and
that
generally
means
in
the
late
afternoon
or
evening.
So
I
would
not
suggest
we
meet
in
mornings,
because
I
think
that
will
I
think
restrict
the
amount
of
participation
that
we
get
in
these
meetings.
H
H
H
C
Sure
that
was
great.
Thank
you
for
that
yeah.
Pretty
much
Echo
everything
you've
done,
we're
hoping
to
get
our
final
outlines
and
descriptions
of
all
the
presentations
by
next
week.
Maybe
the
week
after
the
later
we'll
be
putting
together
a
Sizzle
with
our
Committee
just
handling
that
that,
during
the
production
of
the
event,
so
we
should
have
that,
hopefully,
as
a
rough
draft
to
feed
by
the
end
of
the
month
at
the
later.
C
B
C
H
I
just
wanted
to
say
good
job
to
Ms
Yoon
on
your
first
meeting.
I
know:
you're
gonna
be
great.
You
know
pretty
Flawless
tonight
as
far
as
I
could
tell
so
good
job
on
your
part,
I
did
have
a
question.
Actually
it
was
with
regard
to
item
4A,
but
it's
not
specifically
relating
to
that.
So
I
just
waited
I
was
I
know
we
had
another
class
three
or
four
resource
in
the
past
that
we
took
the
same.
You
know
no
action,
basically
saying
it
doesn't
meet
criteria.
H
Can
you
refresh
my
memory
of
do
those
get
removed
from
class?
Three
and
four
I
know
Mr
Nelson.
You
had
a
little
bit
of
concern
about
that.
You
know
because
it's
still
part
of
the
historical
record
of
the
property
but
I
hate
to
see
property
owners
in
a
subsequent
property
owner
comes
along
and
there's
still
a
class
free
on
it
and
has
to
go
through
the
process
again,
because
it's
flagged
somewhere
so
is,
are
those
removed.
B
H
B
Is
it's
either
going
to
go
on
to
the
first
or
the
second
meeting
in
January
or
it'll,
be
in
one
of
the
meetings
in
February?
The
city
manager
does
put
together
the
agenda,
and
so
if
there
are
pressing
matters
that
need
to
be
on
the
council's
agenda,
hsbb
matters
often
get
deferred
to
the
next
meeting.
But
we're
tentatively
scheduled
for
the
second
meeting
in
January.
H
B
I
will
double
check
with
the
city
attorney.
The
advice
that
had
been
put
out
a
few
years
ago
on
that
question
was
that
once
the
board
had
spoken
based
on
its
vote,
that
that
vote
was
conveying
the
sentiment
of
the
members,
and
they
were
encouraged
at
that
point-
that
if
there
were
standing
members
that
they've
already
basically
given
their
testimonies
through
the
process
of
evaluation,
but
I'm
happy
to
review
that
question
again
with
the
city
attorney.
Okay,.
C
Great
thank
you,
member
Hansen
Top
member
line
and
staff
member
odwin
Mr
Miller
Mr
Rosenau
any
board
member
comments
from
you.
Okay,
I
do
have
just
a
couple
about
surprise,
so
the
first
is
I
know
that
Sarah
is
new
here
and
again.
I
wanted
to
welcome
her
and
congratulate
her
on
a
great
meeting
today
and
also
to
thank
Mr
line
for
his
tireless
years
of
Devotion
to
the
board
and
all
of
your
hard
work
with
us.
C
We
know
you're
not
going
away
so
we'll
be
calling
on
you
for
a
questions
and
advice
over
time,
but
that
being
said,
I
know
that
we
never
really
got
to
a
work
plan
or
the
current
season
and
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering.
If
and
the
next
item
stop
comment,
maybe
there
could
be
a
mention
or
an
elaboration
of
how
we
might
proceed
with
that.
Maybe
there
could
be
half
of
a
plan,
but
then
we
may
know
this
even
and
the
other
item
was
in
my
notes.
B
With
respect
to
the
work
plan,
typically,
we
initiate
your
work
plans
in
the
summer.
The
last
time
we
did
it.
We
were
running
dreadfully
late
and
I.
Don't
think
we
got
the
work
plan
put
together
until
September
or
October.
We
still
have
a
couple
of
items
on
the
previous
work
plan
that
we
are
still
working
on
and
some
that
we
haven't
started.
C
B
So
the
thing
that
you
will
be
seeing
happening
next
on
the
Bank
of
America
building-
and
this
is
the
City
National
Bank
at
588,
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive,
that
we're
talking
about
their
the
project
involves
the
replacement
of
all
the
glass
on
the
curtain
wall
on
the
North
facade
and
on
the
west
facade.
In
doing
so,
they
will
be
putting
up
a
temporary
board
or
plywood
partition
over
the
entire
curtain
wall
on
both
of
those
facades.
B
They
have
suggested
to
me
that
they
may
need
to
start
putting
that
temporary
partition
up
as
early
as
late
January
I
have
recommended
to
them
that
it
would
be
wise
on
their
part
to
wait
until
after
modernism
week
either
that
or
they
should
have
some
signs
on
the
building
indicating
what's
going
on,
so
that
all
of
the
people
that
are
coming
in
from
out
of
town
haven't
been
watching.
Hspb
meetings
know
what's
going
on
there.
B
So,
in
order
to
do
the
minimal
amount
of
visual
interference,
I
guess
is
the
best
word
I
can
think
of.
They
will
be
coming
through
with
a
proposal
in
which,
on
the
underside
of
the
Eve
or
the
overhang,
basically
on
online
with
the
mullions
in
the
curtain
wall,
there
will
be
around
roof
drain,
with
kind
of
a
flapper
joint
that
will
have
to
be
installed
in
order
to
provide
that
secondary
code
required
drainage
off
the
roof,
to
avoid
winding
up
with
scuppers
cut
all
over
through
the
exterior
pyramid.
B
C
That
is
very
informative.
Thank
you.
So
much
Joplin
Bellion
I'm
fortunate
to
hear
so
much
of
that.
But
hey
you
know
the
nature
of
these
older
buildings
and
it
sounds
like
they're
taking
the
time
to
do
it
right,
You.
You
touched
on
something
I
was
really
concerned
about,
and
that
is
modernism
week
and
you
know
the
tens
of
thousands
of
people
who
will
be
like
what
the
heck
are
going
on
with
that
building.
C
B
C
Perfect,
perfect,
all
right,
so
any
other
board
member
comments
or
jump
comment
tonight.
No
okay
and
wow.
Look
at
that
6
59
p.m.
Oh
with
that
being
said,
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
value
that
complete
today
to
drunder
and
thank
you
all
for
being
present
and
Madam
chair
will
be
gracing
us
with
her
present
at
the
February
meeting.
So
thank
you
all
for
letting
me
stand
in
for
her
this
evening
and
just
meeting
it
now
respectfully
adjourned
to
the
meeting
of
February,
the
second
Tuesday
of
February.