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B
Obviously
there'll
be
visuals
to
check
out
up
here
and
then
I'll
just
be
speaking
as
I
move
around
the
room
a
little
bit
about
me
and
kind
of
why
I'm,
here
speaking
to
you,
my
name
is
Sergeant.
Kyle
Stern
I've
been
with
the
Palm
Springs
Police
Department
for
20
years
now,
I've
spent
the
majority
of
that
time,
18
years
on
the
SWAT
team.
So
my
primary
responsibility,
other
than
supervising
a
patrol
shift,
is
to
run
our
regional
SWAT
team,
which
consists
of
the
Palm
Springs
PD,
Cathedral,
City,
PD
and
indiopd.
B
So
we
all
share
resources
and
we
work
together
to
solve
significant
problems
that
are
outside
the
realm
of
what
the
average
officer
deals
with
day.
In
and
day
out,
so
just
to
clarify
and
make
sure
you
guys
understand,
you
are
in
the
right
place
if
anyone
walked
in
and
said
well,
hey
I
thought
this
was
the
active
shooter
presentation
am
I
in
a
wrong
spot,
you're
in
the
right
place,
so
we're
talking
about
active
shooter
incidents,
but
really
it's
important
to
understand
and
focus
on.
B
This
is
not
specific
to
people
who
carry
out
attacks
like
this
with
Firearms.
It
can
happen
with
any
type
of
weapon.
Any
type
of
any
type
of
different
situation
is
utilized
to
carry
out
attacks
like
this,
so
it's
not
specific
to
Firearms,
but
here
in
the
states,
predominantly
that's
what
we're
dealing
with
so
oftentimes
the
term
active
shooter
is:
what's
used,
most
prevalent,
we're
going
to
go
through
this
presentation.
B
I've
been
fortunate
over
about
the
last
six
years
to
give
this
presentation
a
lot
of
different
times
and
it's
evolved
as
things
within
our
communities
and
around
the
world
have
evolved,
so
I
try
to
keep
it
as
up-to-date
and
informative
as
possible.
So
we
have
some
live
attendance
people
here
with
us
all
of
us
sharing
this
experience
today.
B
B
B
This
is
not
a
political
discussion.
This
is
not
intended
to
be
a
conversation
about
politics.
We're
not
here
to
diagnose
why
these
incidents
happen,
we're
here
to
understand
that
they
do
and
we're
going
to
move
forward,
to
try
to
have
a
better
understanding
what
you
as
an
individual
and
what
your
team
can
do
to
safely
get
out
of
Harm's
Way.
Should
you
find
yourself
anywhere
near
an
event
like
this?
So
we're
not
going
to
argue
the
benefits
or
the
unsatisfactory
nature
of
dealing
with
these
issues,
with
thoughts
and
prayers.
B
We're
not
going
to
talk
about
that.
We're
not
going
to
discuss
gun
control.
That's
not
what
we're
here
to
talk
about,
because
there's
going
to
be
the
same
amount
of
people
who
argue
that
gun
control
is
the
primary
reason.
This
is
happening,
there's
equally
amount
of
people
who
will
come
forward
and
say
no.
No,
the
only
thing.
That's
going
to
stop
a
bad
guy
with
a
gun
is
a
good
guy
with
a
gun.
B
So
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
that
because
they'll
be
equally,
the
same
amount
of
people
will
come
forward
and
say
you
guys
are
talking
about
Firearms.
That's
not
the
issue,
that's
just
the
tool!
This
is
a
mental
health
issue.
It's
a
mental
health
crisis.
All
those
questions,
all
those
conversations
that
dialogue
is
perfectly
relevant.
It's
important
that
we
have
those
conversations
within
our
community,
but
this
is
not
the
place
for
it.
This
is
not
what
we're
here
to
do
today,
we're
here
to
understand
and
appreciate
that
these
events
are
happening.
B
They're
happening
all
over
the
country
and
they
happen
at
all
different
types
of
places
for
all
different
types
of
reasons.
You
have
different
people
who
carry
out
attacks
like
this
and
they're
motivated
by
different
things,
and
they
pick
the
places
that
they
carry
these
attacks
out
for
different
reasons.
B
Some
people
are
going
to
go
to
the
places
that
we
enjoy
our
free
time,
like
movie
theaters
they're,
going
to
know
that
they
have
people
isolated
in
a
small
environment
where
they're
not
as
many
places
that
they
can
go
and
Escape
I
also
want
to
highlight
the
fact
that
these
events
are
not
specific
to
any
one
state.
This
is
not
a
red
State
issue.
This
is
not
a
blue
State
issue.
This
is
a
nationwide
worldwide
problem.
They
happen
everywhere,
including
locally.
This
is
a
photo
from
San
Bernardino
from
just
down
the
freeway
a
little
bit.
B
We
are
not
immune.
Nobody
is
immune
when
I
say
nobody
is
immune.
That
means
Us
in
law
enforcement
as
well.
We've
been
targeted
in
these
events,
so
nobody
is
immune.
We
all
have
to
be
aware
of
the
strategies
that
we
need
to
try
to
employ
to
keep
ourselves
safe.
Should
we
find
ourselves
in
an
active
killer
event,
places
of
worship
are
not
safe
and,
unfortunately,
the
most
visceral
reaction
that
we
often
get
when
these
events
happen
is
when
people
attack
our
elementary
schools
and
our
children.
B
We
can
all
understand
why
that
is
a
big
issue
that
we
need
to
focus
on.
So
these
are
Concepts
that
I
hope
you
can
take
away
for
yourself,
and
then
you
can
have
informed
discussion
with
your
children.
If
you
have
them
about
what
they
should
try
to
do,
should
they
ever
find
themselves
here,
particularly
because
we're
dealing
with
the
pride
volunteers
and
The
Pride
Staff
and
we're
getting
into
parade
season
we're
getting
into
the
time
of
the
year
that
we
start
to
have
a
lot
of
local
events
downtown.
Then
you
also
think
about
Street
Fair.
B
It's
important
to
understand
that
there's
been
events
that
they've
targeted,
simply
because
it's
a
large
public
venue
with
lots
of
people
lots
of
potential
targets
like
Las
Vegas.
The
route
981
concert
was
one
of
the
most
dangerous
and
deadly
that
has
ever
taken
place
over
700
people
injured
many
many
killed.
It
was
a
significant
event
that
really
reshaped
and
reformed
how
we
think
about
these
events
and
how
we
try
to
protect
our
public
spaces
when
we
have
large
get-togethers
for
important
reasons.
B
So
again,
it's
not
about
why
these
things
happen.
It's
not
about
diagnosing
the!
Why
it's
about
understanding
what
you
should
do.
Should
you
find
yourself
here
what
strategies
you
can
try
to
employ
if
you
find
yourself
In,
Harm's
Way,
because
there
are
best
practice,
General,
best
practice,
ideas
and
strategies
that
you
and
your
teammates
can
Implement
to
help,
keep
you
safe.
These
are
the
things
that
we
want
you
to
focus
on,
and
that's
really
what
this
presentation
is
going
to
be
about
as
we
go
through.
B
I
do
want
to
touch
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
these
events.
Kind
of
what
these
events
are
I
want
to
highlight
that
this
is
not
necessarily
a
new
phenomenon.
Does
anyone
know
what
this
photograph
is
from
all
right
hands
it's
from
Texas,
it's
the
University
of
Texas
in
1966..
Anybody
know
the
name
of
the
perpetrator
who
carried
out
this
attack.
B
Charles
Whitman,
Charles
Whitman,
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
to
highlight
kind
of
just
touching
back
on
the
point
that
I
made
earlier
with.
Why
diagnosing
the
issue
is
not
always
the
most
important
thing,
as
opposed
to
understanding
our
own
strategies.
Nobody
really
knows
why
Charles
Whitman
decided
to
carry
out
this
act.
Unlike
many
of
the
people
who
carry
out
atrocities
like
this,
where
they
leave
some
sort
of
Manifesto,
they
leave
some
sort
of
photos,
some
sort
of
video
explaining
who
they
hate.
Why
they're
carrying
this
out?
B
This
is
an
individual
who
killed
his
wife,
killed
his
mother
armed
himself
to
the
teeth,
went
to
the
University
of
Texas.
Got
up
in
this
clock
tower,
barricaded
himself
in
there
and
just
started
indiscriminately
shooting
people
on
campus.
So
this
is
1966..
These
are
things
that
have
happened
in
the
past.
They
have
been
taking
place
in
the
past.
We
just
didn't
share
information
in
the
same
way
that
we
do
now
with
these
smartphones
and
the
internet
and
the
way
that
we
all
view
and
have
access
to
information
from
around
the
world.
B
It
provides
us
with
a
bit
of
a
sense
that
these
things
are
happening
all
the
time
they're
happening
everywhere,
they're
happening
all
the
time,
so
I
do
have
some
statistics
up
here,
but
I'm
going
to
go
through
them
very
quickly
because
again,
this
is
not
about
diagnosing
the
statistics
necessarily
and
this
stuff
is
readily
available.
You
can
go
to
fbi.gov
www.fbi.gov
and
this
stuff
is
all
readily
available,
but
it
is
important
to
understand
some
of
the
specifics.
B
B
Let's
talk
about
the
modern
era,
so
when
we
talk
about
the
modern
era
and
when
we
go
through
the
rest
of
the
presentation
and
start
thinking
about
what
you
should
do,
should
you
find
yourself
at
an
active
killer
event?
This
singular
event
represents
how
we
view
this
situation
in
the
modern
era.
Now,
what
are
we
looking
at
here?
B
Columbine
High,
School
now
for
people,
my
age
range
and
and
within
that
generation,
Columbine,
High
School
stuck
out
to
us,
because
it
was
the
first
time
something
like
this
ever
happened
at
this
scale
when
the
internet
was
starting
to
come.
Around
email
was
starting
to
become
prevalent
and
information
about
this,
because
there
was
a
video
feed
of
some
of
the
things
that
happened.
This
got
Nationwide
worldwide
attention
and
it
really
caused
us
to
start
thinking
about
in
the
law
enforcement
Community.
B
Some
of
the
ways
that
we
were
dealing
with
this
and
what
we
found
is
that
our
response
to
the
situation
was
unsatisfactory.
It
didn't
work,
it
didn't
work
because
the
way
that
we
went
about
responding
to
it
was
geared
on
traditional
models
of
policing.
It
didn't
identify
this
as
its
own.
Individual
thing,
so,
at
the
time
Columbine
High
School
happens,
law
enforcement
agencies
in
the
community
start
getting
reports.
B
There
are
multiple
armed
gunmen
on
the
campus
of
Columbine
High
School
and
they
are
shooting
and
killing
people,
so
that
triggered
a
huge
police
response
huge,
but
it
was
in
a
traditional
model
and
in
the
traditional
model
law
enforcement
people
who
responded
did
what
they
were
trained
to
do
at
that
time.
They
surrounded
the
location,
they
didn't.
B
Let
people
go
in
and
they
hopefully
weren't
going
to
let
the
suspects
come
out
and
then
they
called
people
like
me
on
SWAT
teams
and
waited
for
us
to
get
there
to
solve
this
problem
because
they
viewed
it
as
what
a
hostage
situation.
It
was
a
hostage
situation,
but
through
continued
study
and
Lessons
Learned,
we
came
to
the
realization
that
that's
not
what
this
is.
These
are
not
hostage
situations
because
in
traditional
hostage
situations
the
hostages
have
value,
meaning
the
people
perpetrating
those
incidents.
B
They
want
to
trade,
the
hostages
for
something
either
something
politically
motivated
financial
means,
or
they
just
want
to
get
away
they're
using
the
hostages
to
help
themselves
get
away.
But
in
these
events,
the
only
value
that
we
have
to
the
perpetrators
is
what
Our
Lives
they
want
a
high
body
count.
That's
all
they
want.
That's
all
they
care
about.
So
we
can't
on
the
law
enforcement
side
of
things,
treat
this
in
the
same
way
that
we
did
other
traditional
models.
Does
that
make
sense?
B
So
we
had
to
start
doing
some
soul
searching
some
and
start
to
think
on
a
larger
scale
with
how
we're
going
to
train
our
people.
So
we
started,
we
started
training
Across,
the
Nation
with
some
standardized
tactics,
some
standardized
responses.
We
started
telling
our
people
hey,
you
can't
just
wait
outside
you
got
to
get
some
specialized
equipment
together.
You
got
to
get
some
additional
weapons
and
you
got
to
get
in
there
and
make
a
difference.
So
we
started
training
in
these
more
formalized
formations
to
help
people
get
inside
this.
B
One
that
you
see
here
is
called
The
Diamond.
It
was
one
of
the
most
prevalent
because
it
provides
360
degree
coverage
for
the
officers
going
inside,
but
there
are
some
fundamental
flaws
and,
as
we
continue
to
evaluate
these
things
as
they
continue
to
happen,
we
realize
that,
although
we
were
now
empowering
people
to
get
in
there,
Stop
The
Killing
make
a
difference.
It
required
that
you
had
this
magic
number
of
three
or
four
people
to
create
this
shape
and
then
make
your
way
inside
now.
Think
about
that
in
rational
terms.
B
So,
let's
say:
I'm
right
outside
the
location.
I
happen
to
be
an
armed
police
officer,
who's
right
outside
the
location
I'm
there
I'm
ready
to
go,
but
my
next
closest
backup
officer
is
at
talk.
Whitson
Farrell
and
the
third
and
fourth
officer
who
are
going
to
come
assist
me
are
at
the
police
department.
How
long
does
it
take
for
those
officers
to
get
there
so
that
we
can
get
that
magic
number
four
and
get
ourselves
inside
that
structure
and
what
the
long
and
short
of
it
is?
B
Is
this
still
resulted
in
an
unnecessary
and
an
unreasonable
delay?
There's
too
much
time,
it's
a
delay
and
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
for
the
next
couple
minutes
and
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
and
the
theme
of
this
presentation
and
it's
something
that
you
need
to
understand
from
the
time
that
this
starts
to
the
time
that
law
enforcement
or
somebody
else
gets
there
to
stop
it
from
happening.
You
are
going
to
be
on
your
own
you're
on
your
own.
You
have
to
have
individual
strategies
that
you
can
pull
upon.
B
You
can
call
upon
and
you
can
utilize
to
get
yourself
out
of
danger
and
that's
really
what
I
hope
to
arm
you
with
is
some
of
that
knowledge
and
some
of
that
information
as
we
go
forward.
So
where
are
we
now?
What
I'm
going
to
show
you
on?
The
next
slide
is
about
a
four
minute
video
and
this
is
from
the
United
States
government.
So
this
is
the
government's
idea.
This
is
the
government's
information
related
to
what
you,
as
a
citizen,
should
do.
A
A
B
A
A
Foreign
remember,
run,
hide
or
fight
run
wherever
you
go,
be
aware
of
alternate
exits
quickly
and
cautiously
evacuate
in
a
direction
away
from
the
attacker.
Don't
hesitate
seconds
matter.
Remember:
windows
and
emergency
exits
leave
belongings
behind
keep
your
empty
hands
raised
and
clearly
visible
when
exiting
a
building.
Follow
all
instructions
from
the
police.
Don't
stop
until
you're
sure
you've
reached
a
safe
location.
A
Hide
there
is
no
safe.
Escape
Route
find
a
good
hiding
place
lock
and
barricade
the
door
silence.
Cell
phones
prepare
a
defense
plan
fight
only
as
a
last
resort
use
available
objects
as
improvised
weapons,
teamwork
and
surprise.
A
coordinated
Ambush
can
incapacitate
an
attacker
you're
fighting
for
your
life,
don't
fight
fair,
stop!
The
bleed
a
victim
can
die
of
uncontrolled
blood
loss
in
five
minutes
or
less
apply
pressure
or
a
tourniquet
to
control.
Severe
bleeding
go
to
fbi.gov
survive
to
learn
more.
B
B
That's
going
to
be
the
key
thing
to
wrap
up
where
we
are
now
on
the
law
enforcement
front.
We
have
empowered
trained
and
mobilized.
Our
people
explain
to
them
crystal
clear
if
you
have
to
go
by
yourself,
because
there's
too
long
of
a
delay,
that's
what
you
need
to
do.
You
need
to
arm
yourself.
You
need
to
equip
yourself
with
specialized
weapons
and
the
tools
that
we've
provided
or
that
you've
provided
for
yourself
and
you
have
to
go.
B
You
have
to
have
a
positive
impact
at
the
bare
minimum
you
want
to
get
in
there
and
start
to
distract
the
assailant.
You
want
the
focus
of
the
assailant
to
now
be
on
us,
the
law
enforcement
side,
so
they
can't
indiscriminately
keep
killing
people
who
are
unarmed
and
unprotected
inside
we've
encouraged
everybody
to
do
that.
That's
the
clear
thinking
with
that
being
said:
please
do
understand
for
our
own
safety
and
our
own
likelihood
of
raising
our
potential
of
success
in
a
fight
for
our
own
lives.
B
B
You
have
to
get
in
there
and
you
have
to
start
acting
because
one
of
the
key
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
now
on
the
public
safety
front
collaboratively
with
the
fire
department
is
we
want
to
get
firefighters,
trained,
Medics
inside
this
location,
much
quicker
than
we
have
in
the
past.
So
over
the
last
handful
of
years,
we've
been
working
much
more
closely
with
the
fire
department.
The
fire
department
has
taken
it
upon
themselves
to
get
bulletproof
vests
for
themselves,
ballistically
rated
helmets
for
themselves.
B
They
have
training
that
mirrors
up
with
ours
so
that
we
can
try
to
get
them
inside
the
location
faster.
So
when
an
event
like
this
unfolds
in
public
safety
responds
it's
broken
into
three
specific
categories:
there's
The,
Hot,
Zone,
Now,
The,
Hot
Zone,
is
where
we
have
real
information
to
actively
believe
that
the
person
is
still
there
and
still
represents
a
danger.
The
firefighters
are
not
equipped
they're,
not
prepared,
that's
not
their
role,
they
don't
go
there.
They
don't
go
into
The
Hot
Zone!
That's
where
law
enforcement
should
be
going
there's
then
the
cold
zone.
B
Now
the
cold
zoner
area
is
usually
outside
the
general
location,
where
we
don't
have
any
realistic
information
whatsoever
that
there's
a
danger
there.
That's
where
people
are
going
to
be
staging,
that's
where
law
enforcement,
fire
and
other
emergency
Personnel
should
be
staging.
Now
this
this
area
in
the
middle,
the
warm
zone
is
areas
where
we
know
the
assailant
has
been
primarily
because
there's
going
to
be
injured
people
there,
but
we
don't
have
any
current
information
to
lead
us
to
believe.
There's
still
active
danger
there.
B
Those
are
the
places
we're
going
to
team
up
with
our
firefighter
personnel
and
create,
what's
called
a
rescue
task
force.
So
a
rescue
task
force
is
designed
specifically
to
be
police,
escorted
inside
the
warm
Zone,
so
they
can
start
triaging
patients.
So
when
we
talk
about
triage,
they
need
to
medically
evaluate
who
is
the
most
significantly
injured
and
needs
care
immediately,
and
then
we
we
think
about
that
in
the
terms
of
all
the
way
down
the
list
to
who
is
injured
and
needs
care,
but
it's
not
immediate
think
about
it.
B
In
these
terms,
somebody
who
has
a
gunshot
wound
is
obviously
going
to
be
much
higher
up
on
the
triage
list.
Uma
in
the
course
of
running
to
get
away
you
may
have
fallen.
You
may
have
broken
your
wrist.
You
do
need
care.
You
are
in
pain,
you
do
need
help,
but
those
levels
are
going
to
be
treated
in
a
different
order.
Does
that
make
sense
and
then,
ultimately
we're
going
to
evacuate
everybody?
B
That's
still
stuck
inside
the
location,
now
keep
in
mind,
depending
on
where
this
is
where
this
has
taken
place
and
how
many
people
we're
dealing
with
think
about
Desert
Hospital,
let's
use
Desert
Hospital
as
an
example.
It's
a
huge
campus,
multiple
stories.
If
there
are
hundreds
of
people
barricaded
hidden
lockdown
within
the
hospital.
Realistically
speaking,
how
long
is
it
going
to
take
law
enforcement
to
systematically
clear
that
entire
place
and
in
an
organized
fashion,
get
everybody
out
of
there?
B
It's
going
to
take
a
while
it's
going
to
take
a
while,
so
you
have
to
be
prepared
for
that.
Then
another
side
of
that
element
when
we
do
finally
get
to
you
we're
going
to
have
you
exit
the
building
like
they
said
in
the
video,
either
with
your
hands
up
and
open.
Sometimes
they
may
ask
you
to
put
your
hands
on
your
head.
They
may
ask
you
to
walk
in
a
single
file
line
with
your
arms
on
the
shoulders
of
the
person
in
front
of
you.
All
of
these
things
are
done
for
a
specific
reason.
B
B
It's
so
that
we
can
manage
the
evacuation
in
a
timely
fashion
and
do
so
because
there
have
been
some
instances
where
the
perpetrators
throw
down
their
weapons
and
they
just
mingle
back
in
with
the
crowd
and
try
to
escape
at
Parkland
High
School
in
Florida,
the
shooter
actually
just
threw
down
all
of
his
stuff
and
was
able
to
evacuate
and
leave
campus
with
all
the
other
students
in
the
melee.
So
these
are
things
we
have
to
account
for
so
just
understand
that
in
the
evacuation
process,
that
is
something
that's
going
to
happen.
B
So
I
had
to
add
a
slide
to
the
presentation
right
so
as
we're
coming
back
from
the
pandemic,
it's
been
a
few
years
since
we've,
given
these
these
presentations,
these
talks
and
as
I
go
through
and
I
Was
preparing
to
speak
to
you
guys
in
a
few
other
groups
that
have
asked
for
the
presentation
recently,
as
I
was
going
through
those
last
about
10
slides.
It
just
beg
to
be
discussed.
How
am
I
going
to
stand
up
here
and
talk
to
people
that
this
is
our
strategy.
B
This
is
what
we're
going
to
try
to
do
knowing
perfectly
well
that
there
are
multiple
people
I'm
sure
through
the
last
handful
of
slides,
that
have
been
thinking
at
least
in
their
head.
What
about
Uvalde?
What
happened
there
and
all
I
can
tell
you-
is
I,
don't
have
a
good,
rational
answer
for
you,
the
ball
was
dropped.
They
didn't
do
what
they
were
supposed
to
do
now.
B
B
Over
the
course
of
the
last
two
decades,
we've
really
been
incorporating
more
and
more
higher
power
weapons
that
law
enforcement
officers
have
access
to
additional
ballistic
protection
in
the
form
of
helmets
rifle
plates.
That
will
stop
heavier
caliber
rounds
that
are
fired
from
some
of
these
assailants.
You
have
ballistic
Shields
seen
in
this
video,
so
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
cops
standing
here.
So
all
the
things
I
told
you
were
Potential
delayers
from
the
past
have
been
removed,
yet
they
still
waited,
and
the
only
thing
that
I
can
continue
to
tell
you
is
I.
B
B
So
what
can
you
do
as
individuals?
What
can
you
do
as
individuals
and
then
collectively,
as
teams,
to
help
us
in
this
Mission?
The
very
first
thing
you
can
do
is
be
prepared
and
part
of
being
prepared
comes
with
what
we're
doing
here.
We're
thinking
about
this
we're
talking
about
it,
we're
starting
to
express
some
of
our
concerns,
some
of
the
ways
that
we
think
about
this
might
affect
us
individually.
B
You
have
to
be
prepared
and
then,
as
we
continue
to
go
through
some
of
the
strategies,
you
got
to
realistically
start
implementing
them
and
practicing
them
on
a
regular
basis.
Otherwise
this
will
just
go
down
as
one
of
those
Concepts
that
I
heard
about
this
I
heard
this
guy
talking
about
it
one
time
but
I,
don't
really
remember
too
much
about
it.
Anyone
who's
played
competitive
Sports
before
or
is
trained
for,
something
specific
will
be
able
to
attest
and
tell
you
once
you
do
something.
You
learn
a
new
skill.
B
You
can
even
practice
it
for
a
significant
period
of
time
as
soon
as
you
walk
out
the
door,
the
last
day
of
whatever
training
Evolution
that
is
about
a
week
later.
80
of
that
knowledge
is
gone.
80
of
that
skill
ability
is
gone.
If
you
don't
continually
practice
it
and
incorporate
it
into
your
day-to-day
life
so
being
prepared
and
thinking
about
this
regularly,
not
just
as
individuals
but
as
teams
as
collective
groups
is
an
important
thing
to
do.
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
this
concept
of
visualization
as
it
applies
to
individuals.
B
B
This
is
a
collaborative
effort,
but
that's
really
what
I'm
talking
about
in
the
concept
of
what
we're
discussing
here
when
we
think
about
the
practice
of
visualization
I,
want
you
to
mentally
rehearse
some
of
the
things
that
could
happen
depending
on
where
you
are
now
for
those
of
us
that
work
in
the
city
or
those
of
us
who
volunteer
with
different
organizations.
We
typically
have
places
that
we
operate
and
we
spend
most
of
our
time
right.
So
we're
most
familiar
in
those
areas.
B
You
can
start
mentally
playing
out
potential
scenarios
where
things
like
this
might
happen,
and
by
mentally
playing
that
stuff
out
in
advance,
you're
setting
yourself
up
both
mentally
and
physically
to
respond
more
effectively.
Should
you
find
yourself
in
that
type
of
situation
in
the
future?
Now
this
practice
as
I'm
envisioning
it
we're
discussing
it
here-
is
very
prevalent
in
the
world
of
elite
Level
Sports,
so
in
Elite,
Level
Sports.
This
happens
very
frequently,
so
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
next
video
security.
A
Visualizing
he's
visualizing
watch
this
now
he
said
now.
Look
at
this
I've
never
seen
anything
like
this
and
watch
her
at
the
very
end,
and
when
this
is
a
long
one
he's
looking
right
at
the
spot
where
he
shot
the
park,
see
that
he's
finished
your
little
guy
here,
guys
out
there
doing
their
sticks
and
everything
isn't
that
something
whatever
he's
doing
he's
doing
right
now,
look
at
you
looking
at
that
spot
again,
you
got
that
spot
down
perfect!
A
You
look
see
that
he's
getting
ready
to
just
snap
that
punk
like
that
Bobby
did
this
Bobby
Bobby
would
be
in
the
dressing
room.
He
would
not
go
out.
He
would
feel
Bobby
would
be
it
in
the
afternoon
at
2
30
in
the
afternoon,
getting
ready
for
a
seven
o'clock
game
just
like
he's
getting
ready,
not
quite
as
early
but
Bobby.
B
One
of
the
reasons
this
is
so
prevalent
is
because
the
rules
are
well
known.
The
rules
are
well
known,
they're
well
understood.
He
knows
exactly
what
the
hockey
game
is
going
to
entail.
He
knows
what
the
other
players
are
going
to
be
trying
to
do,
and
there
are
shared
rules
that
everybody
understands
it's
one
of
the
reasons
that
high-level
athletes
utilize
this
very
high,
but
it
doesn't
mean
it's
exclusive
to
them
and
that
you
can't
broaden
it
out
to
more
of
the
unknown
in
the
law
enforcement
Community.
B
We
call
this
playing
the
what,
if
game,
so
we
have
new
employees,
come
in
all
the
time
brand
new
officers
with
no
law
enforcement
experience.
They
are
always
paired
up
with
a
more
senior
training
officer
and
they
spend
the
first
several
months
of
their
career
with
them,
driving
around
handling
calls
and
gaining
valuable
experience
through
the
knowledge
and
the
wisdom
of
the
training
officer
and
one
of
the
things
that
good
training
officers
will
do
when
they're,
just
in
the
course
of
their
daily
routine
they'll,
be
driving
around
now.
B
Let's
say
we're
heading
Northbound
towards
outbound
111
on
Palm
Canyon,
and
we
hang
a
left
on
racquet
club,
and
you
see
these
two
individuals
walking
in
the
front
door
of
the
7-Eleven.
What
are
you
going
to
do
you?
Have
you
pose
this
open-ended
question
with
very
little
information
to
the
trainee,
and
then
you
just
have
them
run
through
the
likely
scenarios
and
the
likely
skills
that
they
will
need
to
successfully
deal
with
whatever?
That
is
you
ask
yourself
simple
questions?
Where
would
I
park?
B
What
am
I
going
to
say
on
the
radio
for
new
officers,
one
of
the
hardest
skills
for
them
to
incorporate
in
their
day-to-day
routine
is
how
do
I
do
what
I
need
to
do
and
be
present
in
the
moment,
but
at
the
same
time
report
valuable
and
concise
information
over
the
radio?
So
what
am
I
going
to
say
how
am
I
going
to
say
it?
What
is
the
relevant
information
that
needs
to
get
back,
so
the
people
coming
to
help
me
will
be
able
to
do
so
effectively.
B
These
are
the
type
of
skills
and
exercises
you
can
utilize
as
an
individual
in
your
own
daily
practice.
So,
if
you're
working
at
your
place
of
business
and
you've
got
a
few
minutes,
you're
drinking
some
coffee,
you're
having
your
lunch,
take
two
minutes
and
think
about
it.
Okay,
I'm
sitting
in
this
relatively
small
office
with
a
large
glass
set
of
Windows
and
there's
two
doors
in
and
out
and
all
of
a
sudden
I
hear
shooting
outside
the
door
on
the
left.
What
am
I
gonna
do?
Where
am
I
going
to
go?
B
What
are
my
options
if
I
can't
safely
get
out
of
Harm's
Way?
Where
could
I
potentially
hide?
And
if
you
can't
hide-
and
you
don't
have
any
other
recourse?
What
can
I
defend
myself
with?
This
is
some
of
the
practice
that
I
want
you
guys
to
start
utilizing
on
a
regular
basis,
because
these
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
create
a
well-equipped
mental
Rolodex
of
experiences
that
you
can
pull
from.
B
Should
you
ever
find
yourself
in
a
chaotic
and
dangerous
situation,
you
will
have
these
things
readily
available
and
what
we
know
through
training
is
that
this
mental
practice
is
almost
as
good
as
physically
implementing
these
things
day
in
and
day
out,
it's
almost
as
good,
and
it
logistically
costs
you
nothing.
It's
not
like.
Your
organization
has
to
put
together
some
big
training
event
where
we
have
to
try
to
get
everybody
there.
We
got
to
hire
a
company.
We
got
to
do
all
these
things.
It's
just
yourself
playing
a
mental
rehearsal.
I
highly
encourage
this
practice.
B
B
This
type
of
event,
especially
with
many
of
us
who
are
here
because
we
participate
in
large
public
venue,
you're,
going
to
be
focused
in
doing
other
things
and
all
of
a
sudden
something's
just
going
to
start
happening,
and
you
have
to
respond.
You
have
to
analyze
and
respond
quickly
and
effectively,
but
you
got
to
try
to
stay
calm
because
there's
going
to
be
internal
things
happening
within
your
body,
no
matter
how
well
trained
you
are
that
you
can't
control
in
and
of
itself.
You
can't
stop
them
from
happening.
B
You
can't
stop
your
body
from
releasing
adrenaline.
You
can't
stop
your
heart
rate
when
you're
having
a
stress
life
or
death
response,
you
can't
stop
your
heart
rate
immediately
from
going
up.
That's
what
the
body
does
to
protect
itself.
You
have
to
try
to
utilize
some
strategies
to
stay
calm.
The
very
best
thing
you
can
do
to
try
to
stay
calm
is
actively
control.
B
Your
breathing
actively
control
the
way
that
you're
breathing,
so
that
you
don't
start
hyperventilating,
and
you
can
start
to
try
to
mitigate
these
effects
in
your
body
and
bring
your
heart
rate
down
now.
The
absolute
best
way
to
do
this
in
our
experience
is
a
practice
called
box.
Breathing.
It's
got
many
different
names.
Don't
worry
about
exactly
all
the
different
names.
It
goes
by
just
understand
the
concept.
B
The
concept
of
box
breathing
is
very
straightforward
and
simple
in
practice,
in
a
controlled
environment,
where
you
have
nothing
else
to
do,
you
want
to
take
a
deep
breath
in
through
your
nose
for
a
good
four
count.
One
thousand
one
one
thousand
two
one
thousand
three
one
thousand
four:
then
you
want
to
hold
that
breath
in
your
body
for
another
four
count:
let
the
breath
out
through
your
mouth
for
a
four
count
and
then
hold
no
breath
for
a
four
count,
creating
that
four
second
box.
B
This
is
going
to
take
some
skill
and
practice,
but
if
you
can
call
upon
this
knowledge
and
call
on
these
things,
when
you
find
yourself
In,
Harm's
Way
and
it
doesn't
necessarily
always
have
to
be
just
in
response
to
an
active
killer,
it
could
be
a
major
traffic
accident
just
happened.
It
could
be
that
your
child
is
choking,
and
now
you
have
to
think
of
the
steps,
what
am
I
going
to
do
to
help
my
child
from
dying
from
choking
to
death.
B
B
This
is
one
of
the
best
visual
representations
of
what
the
stress
response
in
the
body
and
the
way
that
we
go
through
life
looks
like
so
what
I
want
you
to
focus
on
is
that
a
lot
of
the
people
in
our
community,
even
ourselves,
I'm
sure
we
can
all
attest
from
time
to
time,
most
of
us
at
least
at
some
point
of
another
and
a
lot
of
people.
Unfortunately,
all
the
time
are
walking
around
in
condition
white.
They
are
absolutely
oblivious
to
what's
happening
around
them.
B
Think
about
the
person
walking
down
a
busy
street
with
their
air
pods
in
staring
at
their
phone
clicking
away.
No
idea
what's
happening
around
them,
they
might
be
walking
in
front
of
cars.
They
might
be
walking
right
next
to
somebody
who's
perpetrating
an
attack
who's,
giving
you
what
we
call
pre-assault
indicators
that
something
is
about
to
happen,
but
you're,
oblivious
to
it.
You
don't
even
pick
up
on
it.
B
So
now,
when
I
tell
you
to
utilize
these
strategies,
you
can't
because
you're
too
far
behind
the
curve,
because
you're
totally
unaware
of
what's
happening
around
you,
as
opposed
to
where
I'd
like
you
to
be
I'd
like
you
to
walk
around
most
of
the
time
and
condition
yellow.
This
is
something
that
represents
people
who
are
going
about
their
day-to-day
every
life.
But
you're
situationally
aware
what
that
means.
B
When
we
talk
about
it
in
this
context
and
if
I
walk
into
a
new
environment,
if
I
I
sit
down
at
a
restaurant,
I
want
to
maybe
sit
down
where
my
back
is
facing
a
wall
and
I
can
see
the
restaurant
and
I
can
see
the
exits.
I
want
to
be
aware
if
I'm
a
place
of
business.
I
just
gave
this
presentation
a
couple
of
times
this
last
week
at
the
airport,
to
employees
from
all
different
categories
of
the
airport,
some
work
in
the
back
in
the
sterile
area.
B
Some
work
right
up
front
as
soon
as
the
doors
open.
That's
where
they
work.
So
these
things
apply
differently
to
all
them.
But
you
got
to
be
aware
so
that
if
you
see
something
like
I
mentioned,
something
that
we
would
consider
a
pre-assault
indicator,
somebody
acting
or
behaving
in
a
way
that
just
doesn't
seem
right.
It
just
doesn't
seem
right.
I
want
you
to
focus
in
on
it
now
many
of
the
times
in
our
society
we're
kind
of
trained,
whether
it's
official
or
not.
B
We
just
want
to
kind
of
turn
the
other
way
like
I,
don't
want
to
make
eye
contact
with
this
person
because
then
they're
going
to
turn
whatever
it
is
they're
doing
whatever
trip
they're
on
they're
going
to
turn
that
on
me
and
I,
don't
want
anything
to
do
with
it.
I
just
want
to
get
my
coffee
and
get
the
heck
out
of
here,
but
I
want
you
to
focus
in
on
that,
because
these
are
the
valuable
seconds
that
you
have
to
start
getting
yourself
prepped
to
respond.
B
If
that
person
is
in
fact,
being
more
than
just
a
little
bit
odd,
because
once
we
move
into
condition
red
and
that
person
who
walked
into
your
place
of
business
and
is
acting
odd,
now
puts
a
bag
down
on
the
floor,
opens
it
up
and
pulls
out
a
firearm
you're
already
prepped
you're,
already
ready
you're
already
prepped
you're
already
assessed
that
this
is
a
problem
and
you've,
maybe
even
thought
about
well.
Where
do
I
need
to
go
to
implement
that
run
that
hide
that
fight?
Where
do
I
need
to
go?
B
What
do
I
need
to
do?
Maybe
even
if
it
was
unconsciously
started,
moving
away
from
that
individual
you're
creating
a
little
space
creating
a
little
bit
of
distance
so
that
you're
not
right
in
the
Kill
Zone.
These
are
all
things
you
can
Implement,
because
if
you
make
it
all
the
way
up
to
condition
black
when
we're
talking
about
a
stress
response,
a
life
or
death
flight
or
flight
fight
or
flight
response,
this
is
when
your
body
is
heightened
to
the
utmost.
You
can't
stay
here
very
long.
B
You
can't
stay
in
this
area
very
long,
because
the
internal
workings
of
your
body,
your
heart
rate,
is
going
to
be
jacked
up
so
high,
and
your
body
is
going
to
do
specific
things
to
help
protect
itself.
One
of
the
things
that
it's
going
to
do
is
it's
going
to
start
drawing
blood
away
from
your
extremities
and
pool
it
in
your
core.
Why.
B
That's
right,
all
your
vital
organs
are
in
your
core
correct
and
your
body
through
its
DNA.
It's
been
hardwired
to
know
if
I'm
about
to
be
in
a
fight
for
my
life,
I've
got
to
get
more
blood
to
the
core
so
that
if
I
suffer
an
injury
there
I
have
more
time
to
try
to
survive.
But
what
happens
as
a
result,
because
now
the
blood
is
moving
away,
particularly
from
your
fingertips.
Your
fine
motor
skills
are
going
to
be
diminished
relatively
quickly.
B
Now
think
about
that,
if
you're
a
person,
who's
responsible,
you've
got
all
the
keys
to
the
facility
you're,
the
one
who
can
activate
you
got
to
get
through
that
key
or
that
ring
of
20
keys,
but
you
can
get
a
key
that'll
open
the
door,
that's
going
to
get
people
out
of
Harm's
Way,
but
now
you
weren't
properly
prepped
and
you
can't
you're
fumbling
around
you're
fumbling
around
with
the
keys.
You
can't
even
get
the
key
in
the
lock.
This
is
the
type
of
stuff
I'm
talking
about
this
diminishes
our
capability
of
survival.
B
A
A
B
All
right
so
for
the
people
in
their
teens,
everyone
tell
them
what
movie
this
is
from
Jaws.
This
is
from
Jaws
now
even
some
of
the
teens
have
probably
seen
this
classic,
but
this
clip,
in
my
view,
really
highlights
some
of
the
things
that
we've
been
talking
about
here,
because
it
it
explains
visually
what
we're
likely
to
see
and
experience
when
something
like
we're
talking
about
happens
now.
Here
you
are
it's
a
busy
holiday
weekend,
the
town
of
Amityville.
B
This
little
Beach
Community
has
had
a
couple
significant
shark
attacks,
the
chief
the
mayor
they've,
got
together
with
some
of
the
powers
that
be
and
they've
come
up
with
a
plan.
They've
come
up
with
a
plan
and
everything
should
work
according
to
the
plan
correct,
except
for
what
happens
when
out
of
nowhere
on
this
beautiful
day,
somebody
starts
yelling
shark.
B
What
do
we
see?
Panic,
Panic,
pandemonium,
chaos,
chaos,
you
have
people
screaming.
You
have
grown
men,
knocking
over
children
on
inflatable
flasks
and
taking
it
from
them.
I,
don't
know
what
he
thought
that
was
going
to
do,
but
again
irrational
right.
It's
irrational
thinking
because
your
mind
is
not
able
to
overcome
the
stress
response
that
your
body
is
going
through.
You
have
elderly
people
getting
trampled
in
the
surf
zone.
You
have
kids
left
to
their
own
devices,
while
their
parents
have
already
skied
adult
and
are
out
of
the
water.
B
You
have
all
this
happening.
You
know
the
lifeguards
were
part
of
this
thing
and
what
happens
as
soon
as
something
out
of
the
ordinaries
happen.
The
Lifeguard
instinctually
starts
doing
what
blowing
the
whistle,
which
then
creates
more
of
chaos,
more
of
a
stress
response
and
the
chief
going
that's
not
part
of
the
plan.
That's
not
part
of
the
plan,
no
whistle,
no
whistle,
think
of
the
person
who's
going
to
run
outside
and
just
think
to
themselves.
Well
I'm
going
to
throw
this
fire
alarm.
B
I'm
gonna,
throw
this
fire
alarm
just
to
let
everybody
know
that
there's
an
active
shooter
on
here,
except
if
you
don't
know
that
the
fire
alarm
is
supposed
to
mean,
there's
an
active
killer
and
not
just
a
fire
somewhere
you're
going
to
have
a
different
and
unrealistic
untrained
response
to
what's
going
on.
So
this
highlights
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
and
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
understand
that
that
is
some
of
the
realistic
stuff
that
we're
going
to
see.
B
Should
you
find
yourself
in
a
chaotic
and
dangerous
environment
like
that,
we
have
to
be
prepared
for
that
and
that's
what
I'm
talking
about
with
a
lot
of
these
slides,
the
more
mentally
and
physically
prepared
you
are
individually,
the
more
you're
going
to
be
able
to
help
the
people
around.
You
not
respond
like
this,
because
we
can't
allow
ourselves
to
become
Paralyzed
by
the
fear
of
the
situation
so
that
we
act
in
ways
that
are
not
in
our
best
interest
or
in
the
in
the
act
of
self-preservation.
B
You
remember
this
woman
from
the
video
clip
again.
What's
the
threat
in
this
particular
situation
that
there
is
a
huge
man-eating
shark
swimming
around
in
the
ocean
and
she's
so
overcome
with
the
stress
of
the
event
that
her
Instinct
and
her
action
is
to
grab
her
small
child,
stand
in
chest,
high
water
and
just
scream.
B
Now
it
doesn't
mean
she's,
a
bad
person
doesn't
mean
she's,
a
bad
mother.
It
just
means
she's
not
properly
prepared
and
now
her
response
is
not
in
the
best
interest
of
herself
and
her
child.
We
don't
want
to
be
this
individual.
We
want
to
be
somebody
who
has
a
better
sense
of
what
they
can
do
to
get
themselves
out
of
Harm's
Way.
So
one
of
the
other
things
you
can
do,
if
you
have
properly
prepared,
is
to
be
a
leader
and
being
a
leader,
doesn't
require
any
type
of
formal
Authority.
B
You
don't
need
to
have
a
job
title.
You
don't
need
to
be
the
boss.
You
just
need
to
be
somebody
who
can
actively
help
people
get
out
of
Harm's,
Way.
Think
back
to
the
Run
hide
fight
video.
There
was
numerous
people
in
there
who
were
acting
as
a
leader
as
soon
as
the
waitress
got
herself
out
of
Harm's
Way
and
was
going
down
the
stairs.
What
did
she
do?
She
didn't
just
pay
attention
to
herself.
She
told
all
the
people
going
up
the
stairs.
Hey,
don't
go
that
way!
B
That's
where
the
danger
is
follow
me
same
thing
with
the
other
woman
whose
boyfriend
left
her
to
go,
make
a
phone
call
as
soon
as
she
assessed
she
couldn't
get
out.
She
found
an
open
door
and
said
other
people
come
with
me.
Let's
barricade
ourselves
in
here,
and
then
she
took
further
initiative.
She
assigned
people
specific
tasks
to
do
you
guys
barricade
the
door.
You
provide
direct
pressure
to
that
wound
and
the
rest
of
us
will
prepare
to
defend
ourselves
because
I
don't
need
the
five
people
in
the
room.
B
No
one
barricading
the
exits
and
everyone
getting
on
their
cell
phone
to
call
9-1-1.
That's
not
effective,
that's
not
what
we
need.
We
need
to
use
teamwork
and
being
a
team
leader
is
a
very
important
aspect
of
this.
Going
back
to
that
same
concept,
then
we
got
to
work
together.
You
there's
something
to
be
said,
as
grown
adults
with
taking
care
of
yourself
and
preserving
thyself,
but
at
the
same
time,
if
you're
an
environment
where
people
are
relying
on
you
as
well,
you
got
to
try
to
work
together.
You
got
to
try
to
work
cohesively.
B
You
can't
be
fighting
against
the
group
when
what
you're
doing
is
then
going
to
be
and
not
everybody's
best
interest.
So
we
got
to
work
together
if
you're
fortunate
to
get
yourself
out
of
Harm's
Way
and
now
you're,
the
one
who's
been
tasked
to
call
the
police
department,
where
you
run
into
those
first
two
responding
officers
and
they
say
where's
the
shooter.
Where
am
I
going?
How
are
you
going
to
relay
that
information?
And
what
are
you
going
to
tell
the
officers
you
got
to
be
a
good
Observer.
B
You
got
to
understand
what
we
need
to
know
what
we
need
to
focus
on,
so
that
we
can
get
that
information
concisely
and
then
we
can
move
and
Implement
a
strategy
to
try
to
stop
the
violence.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
want
you
to
do
is
focus
on
details,
focus
on
details,
not
broad
generalizations,
but
details
not
just
hair
color
but
hairstyle,
not
just
clothing
color,
but
some
specifics
about
it.
Hey,
like
she
said
in
the
video
he's
wearing
a
black
T-shirt
and
blue
jeans.
Okay.
B
That
gives
me
something,
but
if
we
think
about
it,
if
I'm
at
Street
Fair
how
many
people
are
wearing
a
black
T-shirt
and
blue
jeans,
that's
a
lot
of
people.
I
tell
everyone
in
the
high
school
environment,
if
you
say
well,
they
had
a
backpack
with
them
you're
describing
everybody
you're
describing
everybody
you
gotta
narrow
it
down.
You
gotta
narrow
it
down.
So
if
it's
a
black
T-shirt,
does
it
have
a
large
symbol
on
it?
Does
it
say
I,
don't
know,
but
there's
yellow
writing
on
the
front.
B
I
think
it
said:
Jiu
Jitsu,
where
there's
a
big
Nike
Swoosh.
These
are
things
that
are
going
to
help
narrow
our
Focus
as
we
go
in
that
environment
and
it's
going
to
be
beneficial
and
then
lastly,
I
I,
don't
need
you
to
be
a
weapons
expert.
You
don't
have
to
give
us
make
model
caliber.
We
don't
need
to
know
that,
because
most
people
aren't
going
to
be
that
in
tuned.
B
B
So
I
want
to
be
able
to
account
for
that
quickly
and
that's
where
I
go
back
to
our
officers
should
be
prepared
to
defeat
that
threat
right
away
right
away.
It
should
take
a
matter
of
seconds
for
us
to
get
extra
equipment
on,
find
our
rifle
and
go.
These
are
the
things
we
need
to
know
talk
a
little
bit
about
first
aid,
now
at
many
of
the
places
that
you
guys
live
work
Operate
Now
for
those
of
you
who
are
really
here,
because
you
work
at
pride
and
you're
thinking
about
the
parade.
B
This
is
a
little
bit
different,
but
we
need
to
think
about
first
aid
equipment
in
a
slightly
different
way,
particularly
when
I
go
to
organizational
spots.
Everybody's
got
first,
aid
stuff
right:
everybody's
got
that
white
box
with
the
Red
Cross
on
it
somewhere.
But
if
you
crack
that
bad
boy
open,
it's
got
equipment
in
there,
that's
effective
at
treating
bee
stings
and
cuts.
It's
not
effective
for
what
we're
talking
about
here.
So
as
we
as
we
move
into
a
world,
and
it's
unfortunate
that
we
have
to
do
so.
B
First,
aid
equipment
in
a
slightly
different
way,
and
there
are
many
many
reputable
companies
out
there
that
offer
trauma
related
first
aid
equipment
readily
available,
and
when
we're
talking
about
trauma
related
to
act,
killer
events,
you
need
to
be
able
to
stop
bleeding,
stop
and
control
bleeding,
and
you
have
to
have
properly
trained
people
who
not
only
know
how
to
do
that
independently.
But
then,
if
they
get
handed
a
tourniquet
they've
seen
it
before
they've
trained
with
it
before
they
know
what
to
do
with
it.
B
Because
in
the
video
it
said
that
somebody
can
die
as
a
result
of
uncontrolled
blood
loss
in
five
minutes
or
less.
The
reality
of
the
situation
is
that
if
somebody
has
an
arterial,
injury,
they've
suffered
an
injury
and
an
artery
has
been
damaged.
You've
got
about
60
seconds
to
get
that
under
control
or
you
are
not
going
to
survive
most
likely,
and
that's
really
going
to
be
done
with
a
tourniquet
now
in
movies
and
some
stuff,
it's
not
impossible.
You
can
use
in
things
as
impromptu,
tourniquets
like
somebody's
belt
or
something
but
the
reality.
B
Is
it's
not
going
to
work
as
effectively
as
something?
That's
made
for
that
specific
purpose,
so
I
highly
recommend
you
guys
consider
investing
and
training
in
some
of
these
things,
blood,
clotting
agents
and
having
an
understanding
of
the
concept
of
March
or
just
how
you
want
to
control
blood
loss.
That's
really
going
to
make
the
difference.
To
give
you
a
a
very
visceral
explanation
of
this.
At
Columbine
High
School,
there
was
only
one
adult
Member
One
member
of
the
staff
who
was
killed
and
that
was
Dave
Saunders.
He
was
a
teacher.
B
He
got
shot
almost
immediately,
almost
immediately
got
shot,
but
he
was
able
to
hide
and
barricade
in
a
classroom
with
a
bunch
of
students.
He
died
three
and
a
half
hours
later
three
and
a
half
hours
later
of
blood
loss
because
they
didn't
have
access
to
any
of
this
equipment.
They
didn't
have
any
training
with
how
to
control
blood
loss
and
the
cops
failed
horribly
and
it
took
long
to
get
to
him.
But
this
is
the
type
of
stuff.
B
Again
you
got
to
be
able
to
defend
against
that,
and
the
only
way
to
stop
blood
loss
is
with
some
specialized
equipment.
Now,
as
I've
been
going
through
this
process
for
myself
about
over
the
last
six
seven
years,
I've
been
very
fortunate.
The
department
has
sent
me
to
additional
training
opportunities
outside
the
governmental
realm.
So
initially
we
got
most
of
our
information
from
the
government.
This
is
the
stuff
that
we
utilize
to
help
formulate
these
classes,
but
I
was
fortunate
to
go
to
this
company's
training
program.
This
is
a
private
entity.
B
Now
we
have
no
affiliate
Asian
with
them.
We
do
go
to
their
instructor
certification
training.
Many
of
us
have
been
to
it
just
informationally,
but
I
bring
it
up
because
I
like
their
Concepts
and
I
like
it,
because
it's
a
private
company,
they
have
resources
that
are
readily
available
to
the
public
readily
available
to
the
public,
and
if
you
or
somebody
in
a
position
of
authority
within
your
organization
or
Community,
you
can
think
about.
Well,
maybe
these
are
some
of
the
resources
I
want
to
sign
up
for
I
can
give
to
my
staff.
B
Maybe
they
have
things
that,
although
we're
not
going
to
come
and
get
a
big
presentation
like
this,
we're
not
going
to
do
a
big,
logistically
challenging
scenario.
They
have
online
training
modules
where
somebody
can
go
through
a
training
class
for
like
30
minutes,
see
some
videos
answer
some
questions
and
just
think
about
things.
B
B
This
is
a
large
open
space,
but
the
perpetrator
is
attacking
you
from
an
elevated
position
and
you're
in
an
open
area,
but
how
many
people,
when
we
saw
the
videos
when
we
saw
the
photos
they
kept
themselves
hidden
along
this
little
fence
like
this
four
foot
fence,
that's
doing
nothing
to
protect
you!
You
got
to
get
yourself
out
of
Harm's
Way.
You
got
to
move
your
instinct.
Your
default
starting
Instinct
should
be
to
evaluate
where
to
go
and
move
move,
move
move,
get
yourself
out
of
Harm's
Way.
B
Now,
if
you
can't
do
that,
if
you
can't
do
that,
your
exits
are
blocked.
Your
only
Avenues
of
Escape
put
you
in
additional
Danger,
then
you
can
consider
barricading
and
blocking
yourself
in
there,
and
you
got
to
use
some
strategies
that
are
going
to
be
effective
at
doing
that.
But
this
should
not
be
your
default.
Don't
box
yourself
in
if
you
don't
have
to,
if
you
can
move
away
from
the
location.
That
is
your
best
strategy
and
then,
if
you
have
to
barricade,
you
need
to
get
creative,
and
this
goes
back
to
that
visualization
process.
B
If
this
is
where
we
are,
let's
just
use
this
Ballroom
as
an
example
and
all
of
a
sudden
they're
shooting.
We
can
hear
on
the
grass
from
right
outside
what
is
our
Instinct
going
to
be
now?
It
should
be
that
we
should
move
away
and
get
out
of
Harm's
Way,
and
there
are
multiple
Avenues
of
escape
to
try
to
do
that.
But
if
we
find
ourselves
now,
we've
made
our
way
into
an
office
where
there's
no
other
way
out.
B
There's
only
one
door
that
we
just
came
through
and
now
I
can
hear
the
shooter
in
the
hallway.
Well,
you
got
to
think
about
what
are
we
going
to
do
to
close
that
off?
What
are
we
going
to
do
to
barricade
that?
What
are
we
going
to
do
to
harden
the
target
so
that
it
becomes
unappealing
to
the
shooter
or
to
the
perpetrator,
because
if
they
start
yanking
on
the
door
and
it
won't
come
open,
they're
going
to
take
likely
the
path
of
least
resistance
and
just
try
to
move
on
and
find
an
easier
Target?
B
B
98
of
them
are
acting
alone
now,
I
want
you
to
think
about.
Why
that's
important
in
the
context
of
these
skills
and
these
things
that
I'm
telling
you
it's
because
a
lot
of
times
early
when
we
were
given
this
presentation
or
you
hear
throughout
different
communities,
maybe
when
you're
having
discussions
with
friends
or
loved
ones.
Well,
what?
If?
What?
If
I
hear
the
shooting
over
there
and
I
run
out
this
door,
but
there's
other
suspects
and
they're
lying
in
wait
and
there's
an
ambush
waiting
and
I
run
right
into
it.
B
Can
I
tell
you,
statistically
that
that's
impossible?
No
I
can't
tell
you
that
it's
impossible
that
that's
happening,
but
I
can
tell
you
statistically
98
of
the
time
that
will
not
be
the
case
98
of
the
time.
If
you
move
away
from
either
the
sound
or
the
visual
of
the
assailant,
you
are
moving
away
from
the
only
source
of
danger.
B
That
is
why
getting
away
is
your
best
strategy
move
away,
get
away
from
them,
even
in
the
instances
we
know
about
where
there
was
more
than
one
shooter
that
two
percent
right
down
the
road
in
San
Bernardino
that
was
perpetrated
by
a
husband
and
wife
team.
We
know
they
were
together
more
than
one
assailant
Columbine
High
School
we've
talked
about
multiple
times.
These
two
individuals
planned
this
meticulously
for
over
a
year
carried
it
out
together,
even
an
organized
terrorist
attack.
This
is
the
blaticon
theater
in
Paris,
organized
Terror,
now
slightly
different.
B
We
can
really
go
off
into
a
different
avenue,
but
for
the
purposes
of
what
I
think
gets
us,
the
most
bang
for
our
buck
in
this
kind
of
presentation,
organized
terrorism
is
a
little
bit
different.
These
are
people
that
are
usually
have
higher
levels
of
training.
They
have
different
motivations
and
they're
operating
in
cells
of
people
that
are
attacking
in
different
locations
for
different
reasons
and
sometimes
at
different
times,
but
even
in
instances
like
this,
we
know
certain
things,
people
who
carry
this
out
in
pairs
or
more.
B
They
never
move
more
than
a
few
feet
away
from
each
other
and
when
we
think
about
that
it
makes
sense
many
at
times
like
the
Columbine
situation,
they
had
been
planning
this
out.
They
don't
want
to
carry
it
out
independently.
They
want
to
do
it
together.
The
husband
and
wife
team
as
a
source
of
security
and
safety
they're
going
to
stay
together,
they're
not
going
to
do
it
independently.
So
the
likelihood
is
when
you
hear
the
shooting
in
One
Direction.
B
If
you
get
yourself
and
put
distance
between
you
and
that
shooting
you
are
moving
closer
and
closer
and
closer
to
safety.
So
that's
what
I
really
want
you
to
focus
on,
because
if
it's
me
and
what
I
tell
my
children
is,
if
you
can
get
out
of
Harm's
Way
you're
taking
the
98
bet
that
you're
moving
away
from
danger,
98
and
if
that's
us,
placing
a
bet
I'm
going
to
take
the
98
chance
every
single
time,
one
of
the
things
that
I
get
asked
questions
on
from
time
to
time.
B
God,
the
body
count
is
so
high,
like
The
lethality
of
these
individuals
is
so
high
and,
having
reviewed
some
statistics,
they
are
operating
the
people
who
carry
out
a
tax
like
this,
with
Firearms
at
about
a
50
hit
rate,
which
is
astounding,
it's
astounding,
it
means
for
every
two
bullets
fired.
One
bullet
finds
a
person,
that's
insanely
High,
putting
it
into
context
for
you
in
the
law
enforcement
side,
where
we
train
with
Firearms
fairly
regularly
our
accuracy
standards
are
way
lower
than
this
you're
talking
in
the
teens.
B
Now
there
are
several
factors
for
that,
but
what
I
want
you
to
focus
on
is
really
the
most
prevalent
one
and
how
it's
applicable
for
you
with
the
stuff
that
we're
talking
about
today,
because
these
individuals
are
not
all
former
Special
Forces,
highly
trained
people
getting
the
best
weapons
training
in
the
world.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
our
response
to
date.
In
most
situations
is
just
making
it
too
easy
for
them
we're
making
it
too
easy
for
them
they're
hitting
at
such
a
high
rate,
because
we're
not
doing
anything
to
make
it
challenging.
B
They
know
exactly
what
they're
going
there
to
do.
They've
already
made
the
conscious
decision
that
they
are
going
to
hurt
and
kill
people,
and
then,
if
you
just
sit
there
like
a
Sitting,
Duck
you're,
making
it
very
very
easy
for
them
to
be
effective.
So
we
don't
want
to
do
that.
Instead,
I
want
you
to
utilize
some
of
the
things
that
we're
talking
about
and
if
you
find
yourself
with
no
other
recourse
I
want
you
to
counter
effectively
the
assault,
and
there
are
strategies
we
can
utilize
to
try
to
do
that.
B
A
A
A
B
B
I
would
argue
they
shouldn't
be
standing
that
close
together,
but
that's
that's
my
SWAT
Commander
stuff
coming
out
so
I'll
debrief
that
with
them
later,
but
this
is
going
to
be
some
of
the
thing
that
you
might
see
them
moving
through
Open
Spaces
that
360
degree
coverage
moving
towards
the
area
where
they
have
a
high
likelihood
of
engaging
the
shooter.
But
then,
let's
take
one
step
back
and
at
the
very
Andy
says,
if
you're,
successful
and
you're
able
to
disarm
the
shooter,
you
need
to
isolate
and
hide
the
firearm.
Now.
B
So
they
know
that
you're,
not
the
shooter,
now
think
about
it.
If
our
mentality
on
the
fire
are
on
the
law,
enforcement
side
is
correct:
we've
mobilized
our
people,
we've
equipped
ourselves
and
now
we're
moving
into
Harm's
Way
To
Stop
The
Killing.
We
get
inside
the
room
where
we
hear
people
screaming
and
there's
a
confrontation.
We
come
in
the
door
and
now
you're
holding
a
gun
over
somebody.
B
What
might
happen
some
sort
of
Friendly
Fire
right.
We
shoot
the
wrong
person,
which
is
a
horrible
thing
to
have
happen,
so
they
want
you
to
use
a
coordinated
approach
where
multiple
people
are
controlling
the
actual
person
and
whoever
can
get
access
and
remove
the
firearm
should
be
removing
it
from
the
situation
and
isolating
it
so
that
you're
not
holding
it
when
the
police
show
up
now.
Just
so
you
know,
this
is
not
specific
to
the
civilian
population.
B
We
tell
officers
all
the
time
we
are
able
to
carry
off
duty,
so
we
have
concealed,
carry
a
lot
of
our
officers,
carry
off
duty.
We
train
them,
hey
if
you
find
yourself
and
you
intervene
even
and
you're
you're
somebody
who
can
have
a
positive
impact
by
intervening.
You
better
be
aware
that
if
you're,
not
careful,
I'm,
now
wearing
jeans
and
a
black
T-shirt
every
day,
98
of
the
time,
I'm
wearing
jeans
and
a
black
T-shirt
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
I'm
standing
there,
pointing
this
gun
around.
B
Looking
really
tactical
and
a
bunch
of
deputies
show
up
in
Palm
Desert
and
what
could
they
think
that
I
am?
They
might
think,
I'm
the
perpetrator?
So
we
need
to
be
aware
of
that.
We
need
to
be
having
to
understand
ending
of
that.
So
talking
about
the
Swarm
technique.
Now
the
Swarm
technique
is
important
to
understand.
You
got
to
try
to
control
the
firearm,
whether
it's
a
pistol
or
whether
it's
a
rifle.
B
You
got
to
try
to
control
the
firearm,
because
even
if
you're
strong,
even
if
you
kind
of
have
some
skill
and
technique
if
somebody's
armed
with
a
pistol
and
you're
wrapping
their
body
up,
but
the
firearm
is
not
controlled,
they
can
still
be
really
lethal.
With
that
thing
now
modern,
semi-automatic
pistols,
like
you
see
here.
B
If
you
start
fighting
over
that
pistol,
they
will
be
able
to
pull
the
trigger
one
time
and
it's
going
to
go
off,
but
if
you're
holding
the
slide,
the
part
that
moves
back
and
forth
on
the
top
when
that
first
round
goes
off,
the
gun
is
going
to
malfunction.
It
is
not
going
to
work
properly
after
that,
and
it
will
require
them
to
take
several
steps
to
get
it
back
in
service.
This
provides
us
a
window
where
now
we've
made
them
less
effective.
B
If
it's
a
rifle
think
about
that,
a
shoulder
fired,
Weapon,
It's,
relatively
long.
You
start
fighting
over
it.
Now
the
leverage
points
on
that
thing.
It's
going
to
be
difficult
for
them
to
be
effective
with
that,
so
whoever
is
closest.
You
got
to
try
to
control
the
firearm,
and
then
everybody
else
has
to
use
your
skill
and
your
body
weight
to
take
the
person
down
and
then
render
them
unconscious,
or
just
control
them
on
the
ground.
B
Now
a
bit
of
a
disclaimer
as
a
community
member
as
a
civilian
who
is
engaged
in
violence,
somebody
who's
already
demonstrated
their
lethal
intent.
The
law
is
going
to
provide
you
a
lot
of
latitude
to
defend
yourself,
but
if
you've
disarmed,
the
shooter
and
now
they're
laying
on
the
ground
face
down
and
there's
four
people
holding
all
their
limbs
and
about
30
seconds
later
you
pick
up
some
heavy
object
and
start
bludgeoning
them
to
death.
B
You
might
be
in
trouble
so
again
the
law
will
provide
you
a
lot
of
latitude
to
defend
yourself,
especially
in
an
instance
like
this,
where
their
intent
is
clear.
They
mean
to
do
you
harm
it's
intentional,
but
you
got
to
be
smart,
just
be
smart.
That's
all
I'm
telling
you
be
smart
other
than
that
you
hear
in
the
video
and
you
see
them,
and
it
may
seem
a
little
silly
at
first
a
couple
people
pick
up
their
backpacks.
They
pick
up
a
water
bottle
and
it's
like
what
is
throwing
a
water
bottle
at
somebody.
B
Armed
with
an
AK-47
gonna
do
well
it's
going
to
do
something
very
specific.
Even
if
I
tell
you
that
I'm
going
to
throw
something
at
you,
you're
all
sitting
here,
I
just
tell
hey
I'm,
going
to
walk
up
I'm,
going
to
throw
something
at
you.
If
I
throw
something
at
our
faces,
what
are
we
going
to
do?
We're
gonna
flinch?
B
It
is
hardwired
in
your
DNA
to
Flinch
to
protect
your
face
and
head,
and
not
only
are
you
going
to
Flinch
by
probably
Turning
Away
you're,
going
to
bring
your
hands
up
most
likely
to
protect
your
face
now?
What
does
that
do
to
somebody
who's?
Armed
with
a
firearm?
That's
going
to
diminish
their
accuracy
potential.
So
these
are
some
of
the
reasons
they
give
you
that
information
hey
throw
stuff.
You
got
to
combine
the
things
together,
though
you
want
to
throw
things
and
move,
or
you
want
to
throw
things
and
close
the
distance.
B
It
should
be
done
with
a
specific
purpose.
You
shouldn't
stay
stationary
and
just
start
throwing
things
at
the
person.
You
got
to
combine
these
two
things
together,
but
if
you
think
about
it,
it
makes
sense
if
all
of
a
sudden
someone
walks
down
this
this
middle
row
here
and
everybody
starts,
throwing
things
well.
At
the
same
time,
you
got
people
here
running
at
the
other
time,
you've
got
people
here,
continuing
to
throw
items,
and
then
some
people
are
closing
the
distance
to
take
the
person
down.
B
This
is
the
coordinated
style
of
approach
we
want
to
have
if
we
have
no
other
chance
to
get
away.
This
is
when
the
fight
is
upon
you
you're,
in
a
room
room
where
there's
no
place
else
to
go.
You
can't
get
away
and
now
you're
face
to
face
with
the
attacker.
You
have
to
be
empowered
and
understand.
You
have
the
right
to
defend
yourself.
You
have
to
defend
yourself.
You
got
to
be
willing
to
do
that
now.
B
With
that
said,
I
don't
want
to
sell
you
false
promises
and
assure
you
that
if
you
do
all
these
things
right,
you
won't
get
injured.
These
are
two
Heroes
two
young
men
who,
at
their
school,
face
down
somebody
armed
with
a
firearm,
and
they
took
the
initiative.
The
young
man
on
the
left,
Kendrick
recognize
somebody
came
into
his
class,
pulled
out
a
firearm
and
he
tried
to
close
the
distance.
He
tried
to
close
the
distance
on
the
shooter.
B
He
distracted,
the
shooter
other
people
were
ultimately
able
to
take
the
shooter
down
and
disarm
him
saving
countless
lives,
but
he
got
killed
Riley
up
here,
who
you
see
in
the
two
photos
on
the
right.
Another
perpetrator
comes
to
his
College.
University
of
North
Carolina,
pulls
out
a
gun
and
starts
shooting
Riley
attacks
the
shooter
and
takes
him
off
his
feet,
tackles
him
and
takes
him
off
his
feet,
but
he
got
killed
in
the
process,
but
how
many
lives
did
he
save?
This
is
again
I'm
not
telling
you
there's
no
guarantee.
B
If
you
try
to
close
ranks
and
physically
engage
somebody
who's
armed
with
a
weapon
and
you're,
not
there's
no
guarantee,
you
will
be
safe,
but
how
many
lives
did
you
save?
Did
you
give
other
people
and
yourself
a
chance?
You
got
to
have
an
internal
dialogue
and
conversation
with
yourself
about
what
you're
willing
to
do
now.
That
might
mean-
and
it
doesn't
mean
you're
a
bad
person
at
all
that
you
assess.
B
B
B
If
this
is
your
approach
lying
on
the
ground,
trying
to
cower
underneath
an
elementary
school
table
with
your
back
to
the
assailant
talk
about
that
50
How
likely,
is
it
that
this
person
holding
the
gun
is
going
to
miss
it's
they're
not
going
to
miss
they're
going
to
kill
you
they're
gonna
kill
you
they're
going
to
hurt
a
bunch
of
people.
This
can't
be
the
environment.
B
We
have
to
make
it
more
challenging
than
this.
You'll
also
hear
some
people,
depending
on
where
they
are
in
the
situation
that
they
found
themselves.
Some
people
will
survive
and
they
say:
I
survived
by
playing
dead,
I
I
light
on
the
ground
and
I
played
dead
again.
Does
that
make
them
a
bad
person?
Absolutely
not?
They
did
what
they
thought
they
had
to
in
the
environment
to
survive.
B
All
I'm
telling
you
and
all
I'm
asking
you
to
consider
is:
are
you
willing
to
leave
your
fate
in
the
hands
of
fate
or
purely
up
to
the
assailant?
And
if
it's
me
and
what
I'm
encouraging
you
to
do,
don't
leave
it
up
to
them,
make
it
hard
for
them,
make
it
challenging
make
it
so
they
come
into
spaces
where
they're
looking
to
hurt
people,
and
they
can't
find
anyone.
They
can't
find
anyone
or
whenever
they
do,
they
get
a
hell
of
a
lot
of
fight
back,
make
it
challenging
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
B
B
We
put
the
blinders
on
WE,
dig
our
heads
in
the
sand
and
we
we
leave
ourselves
thinking
that.
Well,
it
won't
happen
to
me.
It
won't
happen
to
me.
It
won't
happen
here,
not
in
Palm
Springs
how's.
It
going
to
happen
in
Palm.
Springs
I
assure
you
that
I
assure
you,
the
people
in
Littleton
Colorado,
the
people
in
Sandy,
Hook
I
assure
you.
Those
people
thought
something
like
this
will
never
could
never
happen
here.
It
can
happen
anywhere
if
you
take
something
away
from
this
course.
I
hope.
B
It's
that
you
understand
it
can
happen
anywhere
now,
statistically
speaking.
Hopefully
it
never
will.
Hopefully
we
will
be
prepared
for
nothing
think
about
it.
In
these
terms
and
Captain
gunkel
could
tell
you:
we've
had
alarms
sprinkler
systems.
We've
had
all
these
things
in
buildings,
schools.
How?
When
was
the
last
time
you
heard
about
someone
dying
in
a
school
fire
doesn't
happen
anymore,
it
doesn't
mean
we
don't
think
about
it,
doesn't
mean
we
don't
prepare,
for
it
doesn't
mean
we
don't
put
systems
in
play
that
are
going
to
help
make
that
it
make
that
impossible.
B
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
open
up
to
questions
now,
if
I
haven't
answered
your
question
or
if
there's
something
that
you
think
is
beneficial
for
the
group,
what
we
can
do
is
you
can
just
head
over
to
one
of
the
microphones
and
ask
by
a
show
of
hands.
Does
anyone
have
questions
that
they
want
to
ask
if
not
that's,
okay,
anything
via
the
zoom
or
yeah,
be
the
zoom
chat?
Okay,
so
again,
I
one
of
two
things
is
likely.
Hopefully,
I've
been
doing
this
enough.
B
That
questions
that
may
have
come
up
were
answered
throughout
the
presentation
or
some
people
just
don't
want
to
ask.
Be
the
one
be
the
courageous
person
like
sitting
in
the
front
row
to
come.
Ask
the
question
you
can
always
email
me
always
contact
me
at
my
city
of
Palm,
Springs
website,
hey
I,
didn't
feel
comfortable
asking
this
in
the
group,
but
I
really
would
love
to
know
more
about
this,
that
or
the
other.
If
I
can't
answer
it
for
you,
I
will
point
you
in
the
direction
of
somebody
who
can
gunkle
anything.
B
You
got
anything
yes,
ma'am.
B
Yeah
I
mean
when,
when
we
think
about
things
in
these
large
public
venues,
we
go
back
to
like
the
Route
91
Festival.
The
benefit
that
you
are
offered
is
that,
because
it's
in
a
large
open
space,
you
should
have
more
Avenues
of
Escape.
You
should
have
more
places
to
get
away
the
likelihood
that
you're
going
to
get
contained
in
a
place
that
you
can't
escape
and
you're
going
to
come
face
to
face
with
the
shooter
is
diminished.
B
The
problem
like
at
Route
91,
is
that
the
attack
could
be
coming
from
a
lot
of
different
areas
and
you
have
to
navigate
a
larger
crowd.
So
what
you
need
to
ask
for
yourself
is
where,
within
the
crowd,
can
I
reasonably
be
reasonably
be
if
I'm
a
person
who
can
quickly
get
myself
out
of
Harm's
Way
and
navigate
a
bunch
of
people
running
and
moving
no
problem,
but
if
you're
someone
who's
like
I'm,
not
I.
Don't
move
around
that?
Well
I'm,
not
that
ambulatory.
B
Maybe
you
need
to
be
in
a
position
where
you're
not
in
such
a
densely
populated
area
and
then
I
go
back
to
constantly
that
being
in
condition
yellow
if
you're
a
volunteer,
you've
taken
it
upon
yourself.
Now
everybody
wants
to
celebrate
Pride,
but
you
got
to
ask
yourself:
am
I
at
Pride
as
a
volunteer
for
the
organization
to
help
be
a
key
component
of
making
sure
the
event
goes
off
without
a
hitch
or
am
I
there
just
to
enjoy
Pride,
because
if
you're
there
just
to
enjoy
Pride,
then
you're
there
more
as
a
participant.
B
Now,
those
of
us
who
take
on
an
active
role
where
we
are
volunteering
or
we're
a
staff
person
to
me,
you
have
a
heightened
level
of
responsibility
with
how
focused
you
are
about
what's
going
on
and
what
you're
willing
to
communicate
to
other
organizers,
the
law
enforcement
personnel
and
the
public
safety
people
that
are
there.
You
have
to
be
kind
of
visually
aware.
You
have
to
be
scanning
and
assessing.
B
B
It's
been
an
evolutionary
process.
We
had
continued
to
respond
to
events
like
Pride
Festival
of
Lights
Parade,
Veterans,
Day
Parade.
We
respond
in
a
much
more
thorough
fashion
than
we
ever
did
years
before
we
have
members
of
my
team
who
are
up
on
rooftops.
We
are
down
on
the
street.
We
have
people
who
are
utilizing
many
many
many
different
styles
of
tools
and
resources
to
help
try
to
identify
pre-assault
indicators
and
threats
before
they
could
ever
truly
evolve.
B
Now,
with
that
being
said,
if
there's
a
hundred
thousand
people
here,
we
we
can't
watch
everybody
and
that's
where
it's
going
to
take
the
eyes
of
everybody
and
the
commitment
of
us
as
an
organization
and
group
to
help
use
that
for
the
betterment
of
those
of
us
that
are
there
as
either
a
participant
or
a
volunteer.
Yes,
sir,.
B
B
I
just
know
that
there's
going
to
be
tons
of
people
there
I
want
the
strategies
that
you
think
about
employing
to
be
effective,
no
matter
who
it
is
no
matter
what
their
motivations
are.
Now
again,
what
you
will
see
I
think
to
answer,
hopefully
answer
your
direct
question:
people
who
are
going
to
be
organized
and
acting
in
groups
now
that
may
make
them
a
little
more
easy
to
identify,
especially
if
you
can
see
people
acting
in
coordinated
ways.
B
That
is
a
little
bit
strange,
a
little
bit
suspicious,
so
as
a
volunteer
and
as
somebody
who's
in
tune
with
that
pay.
Attention
pay
attention
to
it
and
report.
It
accordingly
think
back
to
the
Boston
Marathon
bombing.
So
again
it's
not
an
organized
group
per
se,
but
it's
two
brothers
and
they're
acting
in
Tandem
and
they
were
doing
certain
things
and
when
we
review
it
after
the
fact,
these
things
stick
out
like
crazy
right.
They
stick
out
like
crazy,
well
they're
walking
with
this
giant
heavy
bag.
B
If
somebody
was
at
a
you
know
at
pride
and
they
just
set
a
huge
pressure
cooker
down
at
Arenas
and
palm,
that
would
be
weird
right.
That
would
should
that
should
be
an
indication
that
that
is
not
normal
and
if
you're
paying
attention
to
that,
you
can
get
that
reported
immediately.
So
at
the
Bare
Basics.
B
Maybe
we
clear
the
area
so
when
you
talk
about
maybe
groups
of
people
who
have
hate
motivations
or
their
their
reasons
for
attacking
may
be
more
than
one
don't
diminish,
though,
that
even
people
oftentimes
groups
in
particular,
are
not
going
to
act
in
concert
it'll,
be
that
one
person
who's
willing
to
trade,
their
life
for
the
cause.
So
don't,
but
but
again
it's
it's.
B
B
Yes,
are
you
guys
actively
tracking
hate
groups,
I
mean
there's
hate
groups,
some
are
churches
yeah
same
gay
people
should
be
shot
in
the
head.
Are
you
guys
actively
tracking
people
like
that?
Coming.
B
There's
again,
there's
motivations
across
the
board.
We
do
have
people
who
work
in
our
detective
Bureau.
We
have
people
who
work
at
intelligence
centers,
where
this
type
of
information
funnels
through
and
whether
it's
the
film
festival
or
whether
it's
a
major
event
like
Pride
we're
gonna,
get
and
reach
out
to
other
larger
entities,
whether
it's
at
the
federal
level,
maybe
at
the
state
level
to
get
active
intelligence.
B
That's
going
on
whether
it's
individually
based
against
another
individual,
especially
if
it
was
going
to
be
geared
towards
a
large
group
that
we
know
is
about
to
host
a
large
event,
no
matter
what
it
was,
no
matter
what
it
was,
we're
tracking
that,
to
the
extent
possible,
yes,
people
into
yes,
the
gentleman
asked
if
we
as
a
Palm,
Springs,
Police
Department,
are
actively
tracking
any
hate
groups
in
the
area.
And
again
my
response
is
we're
tracking
any
threats
that
come
across.
B
A
A
It's
we
all
have
to
be
self-aware.
I
had
a
active
threat
in
the
truck
stop
this
year,
not
an
active
shooter
but
an
active
threat.
He
threatened
to
kill
people
in
the
truck
stop.
He
was
banging
on
one
of
the
doors.
Obviously
he
was
high
on
something
and
then
he
started
racing
through
the
truck
stop
with
his
truck
I
called
a
9-1-1.
A
Our
Public
Safety
Division
of
our
company
was
there
in
about
30
seconds.
It
was
about
15
minutes
before
uniform
showed
up.
So
it
was,
and
because
we
had
all
had
the
training
and
we
had
all
rehearsed
it.
Each
year
everybody
spread
out.
Everybody
went
away
as
soon
as
the
threat
started
happening.
We
all
have
to
be
active
in
looking
at
this
being
aware,
as
a
friend
of
mine
once
said,
keep
your
top
eye
open.
A
You
know,
keep
your
spidey
scents
open
and
that's
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do,
because
it
truly
is
up
to
us
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
aware
see
something
say
something
make
sure
that
you're
always
scanning
around
looking
at
it.
As
he
said
when
you
go
into
a
room,
know
where
your
exit
is
know.
What's
coming
ahead
of
you,
this
is
fantastic
and
I'm
glad
that
we've
had
such
a
big
group
and
I'm
really
proud
to
be
a
part
of
you
guys.
So
thank
you.
A
I
think
you've
covered
most
of
them,
but
oh
hang
on
it's
frozen.
There
were
a
couple
of
people
that
were
asking
how
you
could
Implement
these
strategies
at
a
parade
which
I
believe
somebody
here.
B
B
So
so
to
answer
that
question,
that
is
a
very
good
question,
just
so
everybody's
on
the
same
page.
At
this
point
in
time
as
I
stand
here
right
now,
there
are
no
known
threats
that
I'm,
aware
of
so
at
this
point
in
time,
and
it
would
at
some
point
I
would
be
part
of
the
mechanism
that
would
be
made
aware
if
there
was
something
that
was
known
or
on
the
horizon
as
we
gear
up
for
parade
season,
we
would
have
that
information.
B
So,
like
I've
told
you
there's
very
few
absolutes
in
this
world,
there's
no
way
for
me
to
be
able
to
tell
you
there
isn't
a
threat
floating
around
out
there
somewhere,
but
at
this
point,
I
have
no
reason
to
believe
there's
an
active
threat
towards
any
whether
it
be
Pride
or
any
of
the
upcoming
large-scale
events
that
we
have
with
that
being
said,
anytime,
something
does
come
up.
It's
gonna
get
funneled
through
some
of
these
Homeland
Security
Enterprise
features.
We
do
have
an
FBI
office
here
and
we
have
access.
B
We
do
have
a
detective
who's
assigned
to
a
regional
task
force
where
their
job
is
to
work
with.
Homeland
Security
Professionals,
where
they
look
through
digital
information
like
this
all
the
time
so
that
stuff
does
get
translated.
Yes,
sir
I'll
just
I'll,
just
repeat
this
question:
I,
don't
want
you
getting
your
steps
in
today.
B
Just
so
everybody
and
everyone
online
heard
he
shared
some
information
that
there
was
some
proud
boy
activity
at
an
event
in
Riverside
that
did
lead
to
levels
of
violence,
including
some
fist
fights.
That
is
all
good
information
to
know.
Just
as
a
piggyback
question
based
on
your
knowledge
and
information,
were
they
identifiable
meaning,
were
they
wearing
proud
boys
paraphernalia
things
like
that?
Okay.
B
Just
saying
in
the
context
of
how
we
think
about,
we
go
through
that
visualization
process
of
like
what
are
these
folks
likely
here
to
do,
and
it's
probably
if
they
are
self-identifying
in
that
way.
What,
regardless
of
whether
they're
group
affiliation,
it's
probably
more
to
provoke
individual
violence?
And
then
we
have
to
think
about
what
strategies
we,
as
individuals
and
groups,
are
going
to
use
to
combat
that
to
effectively
deal
with
that.
B
The
most
important
thing
to
do
is
if
all
of
a
sudden,
you
and
individuals
are
getting
out
of
your
car,
and
you
see
people
walking
down
the
street
and
they're
wearing
a
bunch
of
Garb
or
gear
that
identifies
them
with
a
group
that
has
problems.
We
want
to
make
that
known
to
law
enforcement
and
security
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
use
our
resources
to
keep
an
eye
on
it.
But
that's
thank
you
for
sharing
that
I
know.
Somebody
told
me
earlier
there's
a
pride
event
up
in
Idlewild
today,
so
it
would
be.
B
B
They
went
all
the
way
up
to
Idlewild
to
cause
a
problem
that
helps
us
start
to
facilitate
our
plan
that
we
should
anticipate
they're,
probably
going
to
come
here
as
well,
so
that
type
of
information
sharing
is
some
of
the
stuff
that
is
very
beneficial
on
the
front
end
as
we
plan
and
think
about.
So
that's
very
helpful,
very
good
information.
Yes,
sir.
A
B
Yes,
so
his
question
is
when
we're
going
through
our
visualization
process
or
on
the
public
safety
side.
Do
we
think
about
worst
case
scenario,
and
we
do
our
firefighter
brothers
and
sisters
are
much.
They
are
highly
effective
at
utilizing.
The
incident
command
system
where
they
kick
into
effect,
things
that
are
going
to
immediately
go
into
play
as
soon
as
there's
a
mass
casualty
incident.
B
Now
that
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
a
shooting
or
an
act
of
violence
that
could
be
a
natural
disaster,
but
something
takes
place
where
they're
going
to
put
into
place
they're
going
to
have
a
triage
location,
they're
going
to
have
a
command
post.
There
are
people
with
designated
roles
and
responsibilities,
so
that
happens
very
effectively
or
as
effectively
as
possible,
and
when
you're,
going
through
your
own
practice
of
visualization
and
thinking
about
I,
would
encourage
you
to
always
gear
towards
thinking
about
things
with
your
best
case
scenario,
meaning
what's
the
best
outcome.
B
I
can
hope
for
given
how
I
structure
the
the
thinking
in
your
head,
meaning,
if
I'm
out
and
about
at
pride
and
I'm
in
the
middle
of
a
busy
intersection
and
I,
have
the
ability
to
get
away.
How
am
I
going
to
do
that,
but
now,
if
we
translate
our
thinking
a
little
bit
and
we
go
more
toward
now,
I'm
isolated,
I'm
in
an
isolated
place,
I
have
no
Avenue
of
Escape
I.
B
Think
it's
beneficial
to
think
about
those
things
in
both
contexts
so
that
you
can
pre-plan
for
wherever
you
find
yourself,
but
on
the
public
safety
side
we
do
do
that.
The
firefighters
are
much,
they
practice
it
all
the
time.
Every
time
we
have
a
lost
hiker.
Every
time
we
have
somebody
who
needs
to
be
rescued
off
the
mountain.
The
firefighters
are
very
effective
at
putting
this
into
practice.
They
utilize
it
the
same
way.
They
would
should
we
have
a
mass
shooting
and
that's
very
good
for
them
because
it
doesn't
differentiate.
B
It
doesn't
matter
which
one
happens:
they're
going
to
be
effective
at
implementing
that
strategy,
so
we
we
would
be
better
served
by
training
with
them
on
it.
More
regularly
because
we
do
not
have
the
luxury
that
they
do
to
practice
it
with
events
like
that
we
would,
we
would
be
better
served
by
practicing
with
them
more
regularly
to
utilize
that
system,
but
we
do
think
about
it
across
the
board.
We
have
had
a
few
scenarios
take
place
in
the
past,
where
we
actually
did
a
live
event.
B
Where
we
had
people
go
to
the
high
school,
we
had
role
players,
we
had
people
as
simulated
casualties
and
we
played
the
whole
process
out,
including
setting
up
a
command
post
and
doing
some
of
those
things
where
our
higher-ups
have
to
come
and
get
involved,
make
some
decisions
and
get
in
on
that
process.
So,
like
I,
told
you
in
the
same
way,
we
are
subject
to
some
of
the
same
limitations
that
you
as
individuals
and
as
groups
are.
B
We
are
not
always
afforded
the
the
time
or
the
logistical
opportunities
to
plan
large-scale
events
like
that
training
events,
so
we
have
to
get
creative
and
the
same
type
of
stuff
that
I'm
telling
you
is
the
same
type
of
thing.
That
I
would
tell
our
newest
officers
that
they
should
start
implementing
it
in
their
day-to-day,
but
that's
a
good
question
as
well.
Thank
you
for
that.
B
Good
good:
well,
it's
a
pleasure
and
we
we
really
appreciate
the
opportunities
to
engage
for
those
of
you
who
maybe
haven't
met
Chief
Mills,
yet
Chief
Mills
is
big
on
engagement,
big
on
public
engagement,
big
on
getting
out
in
the
community,
making
himself
a
part
of
the
community
and
by
shaking
hands
having
coffee
with
people.
He
wants
to
spread
the
word
that
we
eat
the
best
way
for
us
to
effectively
face
our
various
issues
that
come
up,
whether
it
be
Community
quality
of
life
issues,
crime
related.
B
What
have
you
is
for
us
to
get
people
together
in
the
room
and
talk
about
it,
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
effectively
deal
with
it
and
I
think
that
this
can
fall
in
the
same
the
same
ballpark.
We
just
have
to
think
about
this.
I
just
try
to
encourage
people
as
I've.
Given
this
a
lot
of
thought
over
the
years
that
we
can
do
the
best
job
we
feasibly
could
do,
we
could
be
the
most
well-equipped
well
equipped.
B
We
can
have
people
with
the
right
mindset
physically
fit
all
the
right
training,
even
if
they
do
everything
right,
they're
still
going
to
be
that
window
of
time
where
you
guys
have
to
effectively
take
care
of
yourselves,
because
we
won't
be
standing
right
there.
Even
at
Columbine,
there
was
an
armed
police
officer
in
the
parking
lot
when
that
started,
but
that
didn't
end
the
situation.
So
there
are
many
many
instances
where
you're
gonna
just
have
to
figure
these
things
out
for
yourself.
B
B
Perfect,
so
this
what
Ron
just
described,
basically
asking
for
a
specific
scenario
for
me
to
lay
out
for
you
what
you're,
basically
asking
for,
is
something
that
I
believe
we
as
law
enforcement,
Public
Safety
groups,
as
well
as
organizations
as
a
whole,
should
be
doing.
These
can
be
considered
brief.
Tabletop
exercises
where
somebody
is
tasked
with
coming
up
with
a
scenario
there
doesn't
have
to
be
any
rules
to
it.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
overly
complicated.
It
doesn't
require
the
logistics
of
getting
people
organized
at
a
specific
place.
B
You
can
just
get
across
a
cross
group
of
people
from
different
parts
of
the
organization
at
a
table
and
you
throw
out
a
scenario.
So
let
me
throw
one
out
for
you
and
then
we
can
think
about
this.
Now
we
don't
have
time
in
this
environment.
This
isn't
the
right
environment
to
actually
talk
through
all
those
things,
but
I
want
you
to
think
about
how
you
can
Implement
something
similar,
maybe
in
smaller
breakout
groups
in
the
future,
as
you
guys
get
closer
and
closer
to
implementing
your
Pride
for
this
year.
B
All
right
so,
let's
say
we're
right
in
the
middle
of
the
parade.
It
is
legitimately
the
middle
of
the
parade.
You
have
full
crowd
capacity
along
the
sidewalks.
Cheering
participating
focused
on
the
parade.
You've
got
all
the
cars
so
now
you've
got
cars
that
are
towards
the
end
that
are
leading
to
the
area
where
the
we're
now
off
the
route
handful
of
those
cars.
B
You
got
a
bunch
of
cars
that
haven't
got
on
the
route
yet
and
then
you've
got
full
cars
along
the
road,
someone
driving
a
rented
U-Haul
crashes
through
Alejo
and
Palm
Canyon
crashes
into
a
vehicle,
killing
a
bunch
of
people
standing
on
the
sidewalk
by
running
them
over
and
then
as
soon
as
they
crash
into
the
vehicle
they
get
out
with
a
firearm
and
they
just
start
shooting
people.
So
this
is
going
to
depend
on
where
you
are
so,
as
as
you
run,
this
table
talk
conversation.
B
What
somebody
at
Arenas
and
palm
is
going
to
do
versus
somebody
who's
right
in
that
intersection
of
Vallejo
and
palm
that's
going
to
change
drastically.
Now,
let's
say
you're
somebody
because
I
know
I
think
the
other
question
came
up.
Well,
I'm
in
the
car
I'm
in
the
car.
What
should
I
do?
Well,
you
got
to
ask
yourself
a
legitimate
question
if
you're
actually
in
a
vehicle,
that's
on
the
route
you
who
have
done
this
before,
who
have
been
through
this
process
before,
realistically
speaking,
now
throw
in
some
chaos
with
all
those
people
moving.
B
What's
the
likelihood
we're
going
to
be
able
to
drive
that
vehicle,
probably
minimal
I
would
suggest
it's
worth
considering
that
if
you
can
identify
where
the
threat
is
remember,
98
of
the
time
the
threat,
and
in
this
scenario
it's
coming
from
one
place,
whoever
was
in
that
rented
truck
whoever
crashed
into
the
vehicle
and
is
now
out
on
their
feet,
trying
to
shoot
people,
that's
the
threat
so
where
from
your
car,
can
you
safely
get
maybe
behind
it,
putting
the
vehicle
between
you
and
them?
And
then,
when
there's
a
window
of
opportunity?
B
Where
can
you
move
now
am
I
going
to
move?
East
am
I
going
to
move
westbound
down
to
lejo,
where
I'm
still,
maybe
in
the
line
of
sight
or
do
I
want
to
consider
trying
to
maybe
get
to
the
left
or
the
right?
Where
I
now
put
other
buildings
and
heavy
objects,
heavy
trash
cans
and
things
between
me
and
the
perpetrator,
those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
you
want
to
utilize
and
for
people
who
are
actually
in
the
parade.
B
I
mean
I,
know
some
of
the
vehicles
large
Vehicles
20,
maybe
20
people
on
the
vehicle
you're
going
to
have
to
figure
out
like
if
there's
a
large
truck
with
people
in
the
back
of
the
truck.
Well,
how
are
we
going
to
get
those
folks
out
of
there?
How
are
we
going
to
get
the
folks
out
of
there
and
that
we
go
back
to
some
of
that
teamwork,
somebody's
going
to
have
to
get
out
first
and
then
maybe
help
people
people
get
in
and
out
what?
B
If
we
have
somebody
who
has
a
physical
impairment
and
they
can't
move
effectively
who's
going
to
be
stepping
up
to
be
a
leader
to
help
get
them
out
of
Harm's
Way.
So
those
are
some
of
the
I
mean
I
know.
That's
a
very
generic
and
compressed
response
to
your
suggestion,
but
something
simple
like
that
when
we
talk
about
visualization
and
putting
it
into
context,
is
now
in
about
three
minutes.
We've
thought
about
a
specific
scenario
that
might
happen
now.
You
can
change
this
in
any
number
of
ways.
B
Maybe
the
perpetrator
says:
well
I'm
not
going
to
wait
until
I
Target,
a
specific
car
and
they're
in
the
middle
of
the
parade,
because
I
know
that's
where
the
cops
are
concentrated.
I
know
the
cops
are
concentrated
at
the
middle
because
they've
got
to
be
spread
out
right,
so
maybe
I'm
gonna
attack
the
pre-staging
area,
because
that's
where
everyone's
going
to
be
stacked
up
everyone's
starting
to
get
their
pre-party
on
a
little
bit
and
they're,
not
situationally,
aware
they're
trying
to
have
fun
they're
trying
to
enjoy
the
event.
B
So
maybe
that's
where
I'm
going
to
go
now,
flip
that
on
its
head
and
say
well,
I,
don't
want
to
attack
that
I
want
to
wait
till
the
cops
are
all
tired.
I
want
to
wait
till
the
cops
have
been
hot
they've
been
tired,
they've
been
standing
in
the
sun
and
the
last
car.
Just
left
the
route
and
they
think
it's
time
to
go
home.
They
think
it's
time
to
go
home,
they're
already
starting
to
mentally
shut
down.
B
Now
I'm
going
to
attack
the
the
UN
State,
the
the
final
load
off
area,
that's
where
I'm
going
to
attack.
While
people
are
getting
out
of
the
cars
and
they're
not
paying
attention.
You
can
play
this
out
in
any
number
of
ways.
Those
are
some
of
the
table,
top
style
exercises,
I
think
you
can
do
and
then
you
can
personalize
it
I
mean
if
you're,
Ron
and
you're
responsible
for
the
whole
event.
He
has
to
think
about
all
the
potentials,
all
the
different
things
that
might
happen,
whereas
well
I'm
a
I'm,
a
particular
entity.
B
My
business
has
a
float
in
the
parade.
Yes,
I
want
to
know
that
the
entire
event
is
safe
as
possible,
but
I'm
really
I
really
got
to
think
about
my
my
team
I
really
got
to
think
about
myself
and
my
team,
and
then
you
can
compartmentalize
the
way
you
go
through
this
exercise
in
any
number
of
ways.
Is
that
helpful?
Does
that
make
sense?
B
That
is
very
challenging,
but
I
can
put
my
team
in
a
room.
I
can
put
a
couple
of
slides
up
on
a
PowerPoint.
Ask
some
really
open-ended
hypothetical
questions
and
let
them
figure
it
out.
Let
them
figure
it
out.
That's
that
mental
rehearsal.
That's
those
tools
that
you
guys
can
utilize
in
the
future
on
behalf
of
the
entire
Palm
Springs
and
fire
departments.
I.
Thank
you
for
making
yourselves
available
today
hugely
helpful
for
us.