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A
B
Commissioner
last
excused
himself
from
the
meeting
he's
out
of
town
Commissioner
Bernstein
by
his
chair,
Craig
Commissioner
pewter
chair
goes
on
here:
Commissioner
gray,
Commissioner
LaBranche,
commissioner
Robin
Commissioner
Soto.
Here
we
have
a
quorum.
C
D
A
Excellent
all
right.
This
is
time
for
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
Jay
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interests
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Although
measure
Jay
Commission
values
your
comments
persuade
to
the
Brown
Act,
it
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
Each
speaker
will
have
three
minutes
and
I
believe
we
have
some
folks
here.
Julie.
B
C
Hi
I'm
Julie,
Knowles
and
I'm
here,
representing
to
the
Ruth
Hardy
Park
tennis,
community,
I'd,
like
to
start
by
thanking
city
councillors
and
in
particular
the
Parks
and
Rec
Commission,
for
the
support
and
understanding
they
have
given
us
over
the
last
18
months.
But
I
would
like
to
remind
you
that
over
the
last
10
years,
our
city
has
lost
23
tennis
courts,
leaving
only
eight
remaining
in
ruth
hardy
park
for
this
fast-growing
city
and
it's
world
famous
iconic
tennis
community.
That
first
brought
me
here
years
ago
because
of
the
tennyson
because
of
ruth
our
day.
C
I've
been
logging
on
a
daily
basis.
The
court
usage
from
early
morning
until
around
12:30
lunch
time-
and
you
may
be
surprised,
but
only
one
day
in
October,
which
was
the
21st
of
October
when
seven
courts
were
in
use
instead
of
all
eight
director
Alvarado.
Has
this
log
and
I'm
continuing
it
through
to
December
31st?
That
will
be
what
will
be
the
wait
time
when
we
really
get
into
the
season
for
January,
February
and
March.
If
we
can't
get
a
court
now
in
still
the
offseason,
there
is
a
long
last
a
plan
to
resurface.
C
So
my
real
reason
for
being
here
today
is
to
ask,
or
even
beg
for
our
community,
to
get
on
the
radar
for
funding
to
give
us
two
additional
courts
by
using
our
measure
Jerry
tax
dollars
in
support
of
a
community
that
has
been
more
than
patient
and
for
many
years
with
and
gone
for
many
years
with
no
action
and
not
even
acknowledgement
of
our
needs
in
trying
to
keep
the
support
that
helped
develop
the
celebrity
status
of
our
city.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
E
Good
afternoon
commissioners
told
you
last
month,
I'd
be
back
to
see
again.
I
brought
reinforcements
parks
and
recreations
Commission
is
still
here.
Looking
for
more
things
that
we
can
do
for
the
community
with
the
community
funds
that
are
still
available,
we
desperately
need
a
restroom
at
James
or
Jessie
outside.
We
need
a
restroom
at
our
dog
park
when
the
City
Hall
is
closed.
We
also
need
other
things
that
we're
looking
at
and
we've
looked.
E
Yes,
we
got
money
for
restrooms
that
were
working
on
to
bring
them
up
to
standards
for
a
DA
compliant
and
getting
the
restrooms
regenerated,
but
we'd
need
a
little
bit
more
than
what
that
was,
because
that's
not
going
to
do
it
all.
That's
not
gonna
build
the
new
ones.
So
we're
asking.
If,
if
you
can
look
at
that
million
dollars,
that's
out
there
is
left
over
for
a
community
project
to
put
back
into
this
community
for
the
good
of
our
citizens.
F
For
instance,
the
fact
that
there
are
no
restrooms
at
all
outdoors
at
James,
O,
Jesse
or
the
dog
park,
or
things
like
that.
Beyond
that,
though,
we
need
to
be
outside
of
only
reactive
and
only
taking
care
of
those
most
dire
emergencies,
and
the
public
is
very
hungry
for
a
number
of
things
that
they
come
and
talk
to
us
about
every
month,
which
would
be
new
projects,
things
that
really
will
make
a
difference
to
the
lifestyle
and
the
enjoyment
of
the
city,
which
is
partly
what
Parks
and
Recreation
is
all
about.
F
So
we
are
constantly
looking
at
how
we
can
do
things
like
new
pickleball
new
pickleball
courts
in
Sunrise.
Park,
which
takes
care
of
a
myriad
of
issues,
not
just
making
more
pickleball
courts
how
we
can
take
care
of
maybe
adding
tennis
courts
or
dog
park
amenities
and
other
things
like
that,
and
we
were.
We
have
been
hoping
for
the
last
number
of
years
that
measure
J
funding
would
allow
us
to
take
care
of
some
things
that
were
just
not
extraordinary
emergencies.
So
I'm
here,
just
ask
you
for
your
consideration
for
that.
Thank
you.
G
Hi
everyone,
my
name's
Ellen
Goodman,
I'm,
a
parks
and
recs
commissioner
resident
of
Palm
Springs
I,
just
thought
I
would
take
a
moment
to
give
you
a
brief
history,
around
parks
and
recreation
and
measure.
J.
Three
years
ago,
we
were
invited
to
submit
a
proposal
for
community
project
dollars,
which
we
did,
and
at
that
time
the
Commission
agreed
to
a
certain
amount
of
money,
with
a
caveat
that
that
money
would
be
used
for
the
downtown
park.
Should
the
downtown
park
fall
short
of
their
estimate
and
indeed
that
money
was
deferred
to
the
downtown
park.
G
G
This
would
be
for
new
projects
that
would
enhance
the
experience
of
our
residents
ourselves
and
any
visitors
that
we
would
have,
and
so
we're
here
to
appeal
that
we
have
an
opportunity
to
apply
for
that
money
or
to
present
a
more
formal
presentation
for
the
use
of
that
money
for
serious
consideration
without
any
deferment.
Thank
you.
H
Hi
everyone,
my
name,
is
John
Goines,
I'm,
a
sustainability
commissioner,
a
member
of
the
desert
community
advisory
community
advisory
board
and
Secretary
of
the
warm
sands
neighborhood
organization
and
I'm
sitting
around
an
article
about
fatalities
along
Ramon
Road.
In
the
article
that
discusses
how
between
2010
and
2014
four
people
were
killed
on
the
east
end
of
Ramon
Road
near
or
on
sunrise
way.
This
was
before
major
Jay
started.
Taking
on
projects
in
2015
in
2015,
Ramon
Road
projects
were
considered
but
not
awarded.
H
Warm
sands
did
get
sidewalks
long,
sunny
dunes
because
of
that
process,
which
we
thank
you
for,
but
we
still
have
concerns
along
Ramon
Road
not
included
in
this
article
is
a
70
year
old
man
leaving
the
Mizell
Senior
Center,
who
was
attempting
to
cross
sunrise
way
towards
Ralph's
shopping
center.
A
pickup
truck
ran
him
over
a
five-year-old,
was
in
the
pickup
truck
and
also
experienced
trauma.
There
were
also
two
other
fatalities
along
Ramon
Road,
not
included
in
this
article.
H
That's
seven
fatalities.
In
nine
years,
Ramon
has
been
a
very
dangerous
even
deadly
street
for
a
long
time,
and
that's
why
I'm
here
I
call
PS
PD
Tuesday
to
get
updated
numbers
about
incidents
along
Ramon
Road.
In
the
last
12
months,
there
have
been
18
incidents
where
there
were
injuries
along
Ramon
Road
in
our
neighborhood,
that's
more
than
one
each
month.
If
you
don't
include
the
two
busiest
intersections,
there
have
been
six
incidents
with
injuries.
That's
one.
H
Every
two
months
I
spoke
with
city
staff,
who
reports
differently
data
who-who-who
reports,
data
differently
than
the
police
department.
They
told
me
that
they've
counted
54
incidents
on
Ramon
Road
in
our
neighborhood
over
the
last
10
years.
This
doesn't
include
the
busiest
intersections
that
sunrise
in
at
Indian,
this
largely
matches
with
police
data.
Once
every
two
months,
someone
is
injured
at
the
supposedly
quiet
inner
corridor
of
our
neighborhood.
Almost
two
people
per
month
are
injured.
If
you
include
the
larger
intersections.
H
I
repeat,
these
are
incidents
with
injuries
if
a
car
or
bike
crashes,
but
no
one
is
hurt.
We
do
not
know
about
these.
Basically,
these
numbers
of
injuries
only
include
the
unlucky
people,
for
example,
on
November
9th
at
7:30
p.m.
a
car
struck
in
total
three
parked
cars
at
Hermosa
and
Ramone,
thank
goodness
they
were
unoccupied,
but
imagine
if
someone
was
in
those
cars
or
if
someone
was
just
exiting
these
kinds
of
incidents
go
uncounted.
These
incidents
are
not
included
in
numbers
that
I'm
reporting
to
you
today,
but
they
are
potentially
just
as
dangerous.
H
Our
neighborhood
organization
is
not
the
only
group
that
is
interested
in
change
along
Ramone
officer,
Donovan
at
the
police
department,
investigates
traffic
incidents
for
the
city
and
filed
a
request
for
changes
along
Ramon
Road.
The
sustainability
Commission
is
working
on
a
pedestrian
walkability
plan
that
may
include
Ramon
Road.
Also
the
Public
Safety
Committee
of
1ps
is
looking
at
Ramon
Road
as
well.
Hopefully
this
will.
This
Commission
will
also
consider
action
on
Ramon
Road.
My
concern,
however,
is
that,
while
there's
lots
of
good
thought
going
on
about
how
to
improve
Ramon
Road.
H
Time
is
passing
each
month
about
two
people
will
be
injured
here
and
we've
known
about
this
dangerous
road
for
almost
a
decade.
I
would
ask,
with
these
kind
of
statistics,
fly
in
any
other
circumstance,
we're
not
talking
about
paper
cuts
and
splinters.
There
are
acts.
These
are
incidents
involving
fast-moving
cars
and
other
vehicles.
Is
that
acceptable
to
us?
I
hope
not.
I
So
we
have
another
notebook
with
another
group
of
projects
we
had
just
about
300
projects
in
total
and
as
a
result
of
this
particular
project
and
I'll,
just
preface
it
with
once
we,
the
Commission
formed,
we
had
to
sort
of
organize
ourselves
figure
out
what
we
were
doing,
since
no
one
had
ever
done
this
before
what
an
agenda
would
look
like
when
we
would
meet
on
a
regular
basis.
Who
would
do
what
election
of
officers?
I
I
This
involved
forming
another
committee
and
that
committee
working
for
months
to
develop
to
identify
what
we
wanted
to
do
to
develop
an
application
for
it
to
figure
out
a
communication
plan
to
go
out
to
the
public,
to
communicate
that
to
the
public
to
receive
all
these
responses
from
the
Republic.
We
didn't
know
how
many
we
would
receive
and
what
we
did
was
have
them
all
come
in
to
City
Hall,
where
they
were
date
stamped
by
the
city,
clerk
and
copies
made
for
every
Commissioner
and
put
into
a
notebook.
I
Just
like
this
many
notebooks
so
that
everyone
had
a
copy
of
every
application
that
came
in
for
a
community
project,
we
had
a
variety
of
different
applications.
We
arrived
at
these
these
applications
by
having
ultimately
having
each
of
the
commissioners
identified,
their
top
50
projects
and
and
I'll
just
say
that
some
of
these
projects
were.
I
Businesses
asking
us
to
help
to
give
them
funding
to
start
businesses,
so
some
of
them
weren't
really
viable.
We
didn't
feel
we're
viable
community
projects,
they
were
more
personal
projects
and
but
a
lot
of
others
were
entertaining
to
read
and
and
then
we
had
a
number
of
projects
that
were
very
serious
projects
and
they
ended
up
on
this
list.
So
each
Commissioner
put
together
a
list
of
their
top
50.
Those
top
50
went
to
the
finance
office,
so
nine,
and
actually
at
that
point
we
had
nine
commissioners.
I
I
There
was
so
much
diversity
in
these
projects
that
we
couldn't
the
city
couldn't
really
group
them
into
logical
groups
to
go
out
to
bid
for
them
each
one
had
to
be
handled
individually,
so
it
it
resulted
in
a
tremendous
amount
of
work.
Added
to
city
staff
and
I
will
say
that
our
engineering,
this
Joelle
and
Don,
are
the
third
group
of
Engineers
since
I've
been
here.
So
this
was
a
different
engineering
group
that
put
this
together
and
I
know
that
I
know
that
they
would
probably
do
this
much
differently.
I
But
though,
as
it
turns
out,
this
is
it
just
was
an
incredibly
cumbersome
project
and
it
taxed
city
staff
tremendously.
So
when
this
project
was
well
in
process
and
and
we
were
then
ready
to
go
out
for
our
second
project-
we
decided
as
a
mission
to
theme
the
projects
so
that
we
could
group
the
money
that
we
were
putting
out
for
the
projects
and.
I
What
we
did
was
we
asked
we
went
out
to
citizen
groups,
we
went
out
to
Commission's
and
we
asked
that
people
come
in
with
their
suggestions
for
projects
and
the
suggestion
that
came
in
that
we,
the
first
one
that
we
came
in,
was
submitted
by
a
subcommittee
of
one
Palm
Springs.
So
a
group
of
neighborhoods-
and
it
was
addressed
to
take
a
look
at
the
number
one
traffic
traffic
corridor,
a
problem
corridor
in
the
city
and
fix
it.
So
it
was,
it
became
a
collaboration
between
engineering
and
the
police
department.
I
I
It
was
an
amazing
project.
It
is
still
an
amazing,
an
amazing
project.
It's
not
completed
yet
the
number
one
traffic
corridor
in
the
city
was
is
Palm,
Canyon
and
we're.
Currently,
engineering
is
currently
working
on
that
they've
been
actually
working
on
it
for
years
and
because
to
design
a
project
like
that
takes
an
incredible
amount
of
time.
Once
it's
designed
to
have
the
to
do.
The
installation
takes
a
lot
of
time
just
to
have
one
of
the
signal
arms
built
is
for
about
40
weeks
to
have
for
delivery.
I
Why
it's
engineered
and
it
gets
to
the
company.
So
it's
a
huge
project
and
what
what
we
found
was
the
beauty
of
this
kind
of
a
project
was
that
we
figured
it
was
a
two-year
project
to
begin
with,
engineering
figured
that
I
didn't
figure
that
so
but
measure
J
said:
okay,
we'll
do
two
years
of
funding
for
something
like
this,
and
with
that
two
years
of
funding
or
two
million
dollars,
our
engineering
staff
started
looking
for
grants
and
they
turned
that
two
million
dollars
into
six
million
dollars
and
and
which
paid
for
the
the
project.
I
So
it
was
an
incredible
return
on
investment,
I
believe
for
the
for
the
city
as
well
as
the
residents.
So
this
is
a
project
and
we'll
all
be
interested
in
seeing
how
this
looks
when
it's
all
done,
but
it's
taken
a
lot
of
things
into
consideration
to
keep
pedestrians
and
bicyclists,
as
well
as
our
vehicles,
people
in
vehicles
safe
on
palm
canyon,
with
at
the
with
this
under
way
we
also
started.
I
So
this
is.
This
is
something
that
you
know
we
haven't
brought.
The
1ps
has
not
brought
to
the
Commission.
We
there's
I've,
seen
nothing
more
than
this
on
it.
The
police
department
is
gathering
data
which
they
then
can
take
to
engineering
and
work
on
a
project
if,
if
something
like
that
were
to
be
funded
during
this
same
period
of
time,
the
parks
department
did
come
to
measure
J
and
were
they
were
put
into
a
backup
position
with
to
be
considered
for
a
project.
I
Once
the
Palm
Canyon
project
was
completed
and
I
I
know
that
the
parks
department,
I
hate
to
say
the
redheaded
child,
but
frequently
probably
feels
like
the
redheaded
child
in
terms
of
trying
to
get
funding
to
do
things
and
I
would
I'm
mentioning
this
I'm
surprised,
actually
that
they're
here
today,
but
it
was
perfect
timing
and
I.
Just
I
really
would
like
to
see
to
make
sure
that
they
stay
on
the
table
so
that
that
their
issues
can
be
taken
care
of
as
well.
The
just
sum
it
up
I
think
the
that's.
I
What
we
found
was
that
the
themed
projects
took
months
of
work
off
of
individual
commission
members
off
of
the
city
staff,
and
it
also
provided
that
opportunity
to
use
that
funding
to
as
a
match
for
grants.
So
once
a
project
was
identified,
they
could
go
out
and
look
for
grants
to
do
to
help
with
pay
for
these
themed
projects.
I
It
just
seemed
to
be
a
significant
return
on
investment
at
that
point,
as
opposed
to
doing
so
many
projects
throughout
the
city.
We
are
in
addition
to
these
projects.
The
second
group
of
projects
was
a
three
year
project
that
would
that
came
forward
from
the
neighborhoods,
and
it
is
after
three
years
it
may
be
four
years
now
is
just
beginning
to
finish
up,
and
that
includes
the
projects
on
Sonny
Dunes
with
the
sidewalk
money,
which
was
also
used
by
the
city
for
other
projects
a
year
or
so
ago,
but
we
did.
I
The
engineers
did
go
out
and
find
some
grants
to
help
with
that
as
well.
So
I,
just
am
I'm.
I
know
I've
taken
a
lot
of
time,
but
I'm
I
think
it's
really
important.
I
know
that
you
all
all
are
focused
on
the
importance
of
community
projects
when
that
comes
to
your
agenda.
That
I
wanted
to
be
sure
to
share
with
you
some
of
the
growing
pains
that
we
had
as
a
first
go-around
for
these.
So
that
you
wouldn't
have
to
repeat
well
what
we,
what
we
went
through
and.
J
I
If
you
have
time
and
I
don't
want
to
take
any
more
of
your
time,
I
know
you
have
a
busy
agenda,
but
I'm
totally
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
anybody
may
have
and
I
know
that
Arianna
also
has
this
notebook.
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
it,
you
could
check
it
out
and
then
bring
your
wagon
to
haul
it
off.
I.
B
A
A
F
The
co-chair
goes
on
and
commission
members,
my
name
is
David
Lacey
I'm,
the
assistant
finance
director
for
Palm
Springs,
director
Polly,
couldn't
join
us
today.
So
it's
my
pleasure
to
present
item
number
three
here,
which
is
the
multi-year
summary
of
available
measure.
J
funds
in
the
revenue
update.
F
The
good
news
for
your
today
at
revenues
through
the
end
of
October
is
were
right
on
track
with
what
we
expected
about
nine
point:
seven
percent
growth
over
last
year's
revenues.
Our
budget
from
last
year
to
this
year
was
reflecting
about
nine
point
two
percent,
so
we're
right
on
track
with
those
numbers
and
that
just
represents
about
15%
of
revenues
that
we've
received
so
far
year
of
budget
director
Xia
de
the
other
update
from
the
finance
offices.
A
K
F
Won't
necessarily
be
available
yet
we're
working
through
that
process.
We
usually
have
the
audit
by
the
end
of
December,
so
we
may
have
some
updated
numbers
based
on
there
on
those
results,
but
they'll
be
working
through
that
piece,
but
will
present
the
normal
numbers
that
we
generally
do
for
your
report.
Next
I.
L
Have
a
question
which,
okay,
just
a
clarification
for
me,
I
think
it's
page:
2
5,
8,
7,
0,
0
community
enhancement.
What
is
that.
L
M
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
right
now
if
I
can
pin
what
community
it
has
been.
It's
part
of
the
hotspots
and
all
the
sidewalks,
but
I
don't
know
it
doesn't
have
a
project
associated
with
it.
So
I
can't
answer
the
question
right
now:
I,
don't
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
what
exactly
community
enhancements
budget
is
used
for.
D
M
We
are
doing
the
first
of
those
projects
which
is
a
smaller
on
Sunrise
Park
and
from
there
we're
gonna
leap
in
to
start
into
the
bigger
project.
So
I
don't
have
a
good
time
line
for
you
right
now
as
to
when
that's
gonna
kick
off,
but
we're
trying
to
do
the
small
project,
which
is
the
small
park
at
sunrise,
then
from
there
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
bigger
project,
so
I
don't
have
a
good
day
for
you.
You.
N
So
we
have
some
concepts
and
we
have
like
a
plenary
design.
We
did
want
to
meet
with
the
Parks
and
Rec
subcommittee
on
that
particular
design
and
kind
of
flush
out.
You
know
what
they
know
about
the
parks
and
if
that
model
works
at
sunrise
Park,
we
can
take
a
similar
format
and
then
replicate
it
at
all
the
other
parks.
N
So
we
want
to
we're
kind
of
using
sunrise,
Park
restrooms,
as
our
first
stab
at
what
it's
going
to
look
like
how
it's
going
to
operate
as
well
as
the
needs
for
facilities
and
all
the
different
maintenance
crews.
So
once
we
can
kind
of
flush
out
all
the
the
needs
and
how
it
operates,
I
think
it'll
move
a
lot
faster,
because
we
can
just
take
that
design
and
replicate
it.
You
know
what
all
the
other
parks,
so
that's
kind
of
where
the
status
is
right
now
right.
O
M
Think
this
meeting
generally
is
slated
for
us
to
introduce
new
projects.
I
did
not
send
a
new
project
out.
I
did
put
in
a
call
for
the
staffs
citywide
to
see
if
they
had
any
new
projects
that
we
were
gonna.
Introduce
I
didn't
receive
any
so
I
think
with
the
original
projects
that
we've
had
on
our
list.
We're
gonna
continue
with
that
list.
As
far
as
projects
unfunded
I
will
give
you
a
just
an
update
on
the
current
projects
that
we're
working
on
the
first
one
is
downtown
park.
M
We,
the
Notice
to
Proceed
or
the
contractor,
was
issued
the
notice
to
proceed
on,
but
basically
yesterday,
so
yesterday
was
the
first
day
of
work
for
the
contractor,
so
you're
gonna
start
seeing
dirt
moving
from
there.
The
fence
is
going
up
or
working
through
utility
issues
right
now,
so
the
project
is
well
underway.
P
M
M
Most
yeah
we'll
see
my
job
is
to
keep
it
on
budget
on
time
so
open.
We
have
a
good
contractor.
We
have
a
construction
manager.
Let's
just
see
what
happens
we
haven't
had
it
and
I
think
the
assistant
city
manager
has
said
that
we've
had
difficulty
with
our
contractors.
It
was
said
in
the
groundbreaking
that
a
lot
of
contractors
are
coming
in
and
they're
having
a
difficult
time
staying
on
on
time
and
under
budget
with
just
with
the
whole
construction
boom.
M
That's
going
on
it's
very,
very
difficult
to
deliver
a
project
right
now
and
that
kind
of
leads
me
into
the
police
department
that
should
have
been
closed
out
a
long
time
ago.
I
have
the
two
of
the
other
one.
That's
following,
but
the
police
department
remodel.
We
basically
finished
the
project.
The
the
contractor
that
took
over
for
the
contractor
we
fired,
has
substantially
completed
that
all
four
projects
within
the
police
department.
We
are
doing
the
final
punch
list.
There
are
two
remaining
items
that
are
going
on
over
there.
M
One
is
the
fire
alarm
system
is
being
worked
on,
connecting
the
rest
of
the
building
and
we're
also
working
on
some
some
restroom
issues
that
the
manufacturers
found
that
there
was
a
gross
miss
installation
from
the
original
contractor,
the
manufacturer
volunteered
to
replace
all
the
items
for
free,
so
they're,
coming
in
replacing
everything
and
taking
the
old
stuff
out.
So
that's
kind
of
what's
lingering
and
I'm
looking
to
close
that
project
out,
hopefully
the
last
meeting
in
December
or
the
first
one
in
January
and
the
Kornelia
white
house
project
is
finally
closed.
M
Up
and
wrapped
up,
I
should
say:
I
think
the
only
thing
remaining
there
might
be
a
little
bit
more
landscaping
in
the
front
of
that,
but
I
think
it's
pretty
much
wrapped
up
going
back
to
contractors
bailing
the
fire
station
number
four
also
went
well
beyond
the
construction
days
allowed
for
the
project
and
right
now
we're
under
negotiations
to
close
out
that
project.
So
we
have
attorneys
involved
and
working
through
the
process
that
the
fire
station
is
occupied
and
we're
working
through
just
minor
issues
that
they
left
behind.
N
In
the
past
two
weeks,
our
contractor
has
been
busily
working
on
sunny
dunes
Road.
They
appear
to
be
going
faster
than
I
expected.
Things
are
going
pretty
good
we're
it's
always
a
challenge.
We
can
we
come
into
your
neighborhood.
Everyone
has
a
lot
of
questions
or
they're
only
here
on
weekends,
and
so
we
were
going
neighbor.
N
We
were
scheduled
to
finish
all
of
the
different
streets,
probably
middle,
of
January,
to
early
February,
so
it's
going
really
quickly
and
that's
kind
of
the
update.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
you
know
your
branding
that
for
our
sidewalks,
when
that
that
can
happen,
I
guess
we
could
that's
later
on
in
our
agenda.
M
N
In
the
Intuit
conversion
we
are
getting.
We
finally
agreed
with
the
contractor
to
their
plan
on
how
to
do
the
street,
paving
or
basically
we
need
to
do
a
slurry
seal
on
the
street,
because
what
the
slurry
sale
would
do.
It's
gonna
do
a
really
Mike
what
we
call
a
micro
mill
which
will
grind
off
all
of
the
old
striping,
so
it's
not
visible
anymore
and
then
now
you're
gonna
have
striping.
That
goes
two
ways,
so
we
need
to
lay
that
out.
N
So
now
that
we
have
kind
of
a
master
schedule,
we
can
start
working
with
the
Main
Street
group
as
far
as
how
we
roll
this
out,
making
sure
that
everybody
has
the
information
when
they
do
the
grind
I
think
it's
pretty
quick.
The
community
can
handle
that
it's
when
they
do
that
asphalt,
part
where
we
have
to
keep
traffic
off
those
sections
of
road.
That's
going
to
be
the
biggest
impact
to
the
community.
N
Luckily,
we've
talked
through
this
at
Great
Lengths,
with
the
contractor,
making
sure
that
you
know
we
have
the
least
impact
to
our
businesses
in
that
Indian
Canyon
corridor
as
well
as
we
will
be
working
with
public,
our
Pio
folks
to
make
sure
that
the
public
is
aware
of
what's
going
on.
But
the
intention
is
that
from
Alejo
block
by
block
we're
gonna
start
opening
up
traffic
to
two
ways.
N
A
N
Type
of
so
after
Thanksgiving
we
look
to
do
the
grinding.
Slurry
Co
would
probably
be
the
middle
of
December
and
then,
after
the
first
of
the
year,
the
second
we're
going
to
do
some
night
work
and
that's
when
you're
gonna
start
to
see
blocks
okay
and
block
by
block
so
between
December,
2nd
and
I.
Believe
the
I
mean
January
2nd,
which
is
a
Thursday
this
year
or
two,
the
following
Friday,
which
is
January
9
that
really
you're
gonna
start
to
see
the
two
ways.
N
M
M
Where
we're
coordinating
with
them
to
get
done
with
their
work
prior
to
us
doing
the
final
grinding
in
the
final
overlay?
Well,
we
don't
want
to
Icarus
or
us
to
finish
and
then
they've
come
back
and
they
and
there
is
a
little
caveat
there
and
I
mean
this
we're
getting
really
into
the
weeds.
There
is
one
Edison
vault
somewhere
along
the
way
that
needs
to
be
worked
on
and
it's
gonna
maybe
be
cut
there
by
be
a
trench
and
then
they're
gonna
come
back
and
patch
it.
But
that's.
N
Yeah
we've
had
a
lot
of
discussions
on
all
the
parades
that
have
been
going
on,
and
so
that's
why
the
kind
of
schedule
is
but
put
that
way.
So
when
the
parade
happens
on
the
seventh,
it's
gonna
look
and
feel
exactly
how
it
does
now
yeah
so
they'll
be
doing
some.
Some
minor
work,
I
mean
I
mean
on
the
indian
canyon
side.
It's
it's
still
gonna
be
the
four
lanes
that
go
north
there.
The
surface
might
be
ground
down,
but
there's
gonna
be
temporary
striping
that
looks
like
it
does
today.
K
M
So
there's
a
lot
of
thought
being
done,
a
lot
of
research
being
done,
I'm,
putting
a
report
together
and
I
need
to
take
it
to
Council
on
the
18th
to
have
Council,
allow
us
to
adopt
a
2006
Caltrans
standard,
which
is
a
smaller
poll
and
we're
gonna
stick
with
that
moving
forward.
So
the
polls
at
Indian
at
the
South
Palm
Canyon
project
car,
basically
on
hold
until
I.
We
make
those
decisions,
so
I
need
to
get
council
to
approve
it,
and
once
we
do,
then
we
can
move
forward
in
order
to
those
polls.
M
N
Which
is
a
great
segue
to
the
East
Palm
Canyon
project,
where
we
have
the
four
crosswalks
with
the
lights
and
the
pavement
the
contractor
has
secured
most
of
the
materials
for
that
installation,
so
that
project
you'll
probably
see
within
the
next
few
weeks.
The
contractor
is
going
to
be
out
there
to
do
that
project,
as
well
as
install
the
lights
around
the
curve
and.
D
After
what
went
on
with
the
police
departments
renovations
with
the
company
that
was
doing
it,
and
then
they
were
gotten,
they
were
fired
and
then
you
had
done
a
new
company.
Are
there
any
failsafe
measures
being
taken
with
this
whole
big
park?
That's
being
built
downtown
IV?
Are
they
bonded
in
a
way
that
we're
not
gonna,
hear
god
forbid
the
same
type
of
problem
that
the
station
went
through.
M
Most
contractors
bond
and
they
exactly
the
same
way,
so
the
bonds
that
were
held
for
the
contractor
was
fired
are
the
same
types
of
bonds
that
are
secured
by
any
contractor
the
city
and
any
public
entity
has
to
use
the
low
bid
method
of
securing
contracts.
Essentially,
we
have
to
go
out
and
we
get
just
the
lowest
bidder,
that's
qualified,
so
we
go
through
the
qualifications,
most
contractors
that
turn
in
their
their
their
bids
are
qualified
or
a
sale
in
turn
in
their
bids.
So
we
go
through
the
process.
D
M
It
drew
everybody's
attention
and
we
went
city
man,
a
city
manager,
Marcus,
went
through
a
big
process
when
they
rebid
it
to
ensure
that
we
adjusted
whatever
we
needed
to
adjust
to
be
able
to
get
a
contractor
to
bid.
There
were
certain
I,
don't
right
now
at
the
top
of
my
head
I,
don't
remember
exactly
why
it
was
at
the
the
first
bid
had
zero
bidders,
but
the
second
bid
did
have
significant
interest.
The
difference
in
price.
We
questioned
it
as
well.
There
was
a
protest
from
the
second
little
bitter.
M
We
worked
with
the
first
low
bidder
to
answer
the
questions
we
went
through
a
process
and
ultimately
decided
that
the
the
lowest
bidder
was
qualified
to
construct
the
project,
the
fail-safes
their
bond
there
there
they
they
have
the
right
people,
they
have
all
the
ability
to
construct
the
project
down.
We
have
our
construction
managers,
we're
gonna,
be
working
with
them
throughout
the
whole
project
to
deliver
it
and.
L
N
So
that's,
it's
called
an
all
pedestrian
phase,
so
each
leg
of
the
intersection
vehicles
gathers
red
light
and
only
pedestrians
can
cross
either
normally
or
diagonally
and
there's
good.
This
is
going
to
occur
at
four
intersections,
so
basically
talk
quits
and
then
the
next
four
intersections
down
that.
L
B
L
N
L
N
It
it
is
a
learning
curve.
You
know
when
you're
behind
the
wheel,
you
want
everybody
to
hurry
up
and
when
you're
a
pedestrian,
it's
like
everybody,
stop
I
need
across.
You
hate
the
same
people
you
know,
so
it
just
takes
some
time
to
get
used
it
to
the
adjustments,
but
it
is
an
education
process.
As
far
as
you
know
that
Commissioner.
A
O
M
And
we
are
anticipating
that
that
might
come
to
life
that
we
may
get
a
good
momentum
behind
it.
We've
already
asked
our
traffic
engineers
to
give
us
proposals.
I
have
a
proposal
that
I'm
reviewing
right
now
for
the
traffic
circle,
so
you
did
say
that
they
they're
very
costly,
so
they're,
you
know
they're,
it's
a
lot
of
money
to
do
what
we
want
to
do
so
the
proposal
is
being
evaluated
and
if
we
feel
that
we're
gonna
go
forward,
they'll
be
designing
it
next
year.
N
M
J
There
are,
there
is
right
now
we
have
the
mod
El
Camino
by
the
Biltmore.
There
is
one
at
East,
pumpkin
and
South
Palm
Canyon.
Whatever
that
little
curve
thing
is,
there's
one
there
and
then
there
then
there's
one
a
mesquite
but
I'm,
not
sure.
If
there's
anything
and
be
is
there
anything
in
between
mesquite
and
a.
L
N
A
N
There's
a
different
project:
it
was
a
cow
trans,
funded
project,
part
of
the
Highway
Safety
Improvement
Program,
where
they
looked
at
the
top
19
intersections
that
were
having
the
most
problems
and
we
were
able
to
get
that
grant.
It
went
through
the
design
fees.
We
just
got
approval
for
construction
to
put
it
out
to
bid
for
construction.
So,
basically,
every
two
years
they
come
up
with
this
Highway
Safety,
Improvement
Program,
so
cyclists.
Seven,
we
applied
for
night
that
19
worst
intersections
in
the
city,
I
believe
Ramon
was
part
of
that
application
and
then
psycho
eight.
N
A
M
M
And
that's
how
we
ended
up
with
this.
We
got
to
millions
from
measure
J
and
use
that
money
to
leverage
and
got
six
million
total.
So
what
she
was
suggestion
is
that
suggesting
that
the
next
corridor-
that
is,
that
that
is
the
worst
corridor,
which
would
be
probably
Ramon
Road,
and
she
said
there
was
a
tie
between
Ramona
and
Sunrise,
so
that
could
be
the
beginning
of
the
next
funding
phase
for
that
particular
profile.
So.
A
As
we
saw
and
I
wanted
to
ask
us,
as
we
discuss
further
into
the
agenda
here
as
we
look
at
community
projects
going
forward,
you
know
and
I
think
of
this
safety
hotspot
of
Ramon
I
mean
it's
no
matter
where
you
live
in
this
city.
We
all
know
Ramon
is
bad.
It
has
had
a
lot
of
deaths.
We
know.
Sunrise
has
some
hotspots
where
there
are
a
lot
of
deaths
and
then
you
can
trickle
down
to
feral
or
there's
a
ton
of
accidents.
A
M
We
said
we
are
about
where
we
are
taking
in
all
the
information
we're
starting
to
review.
Do
collecting
data
I.
Think
here
has
been
in
contact
with
Francisco,
so
we
are
starting
the
process.
Now
we
are
going
to
as
a
city
or
as
an
engineering
department
need
to
review
whether
that
section
that
little
that
corridor
on
Ramon
Road
is
going
to
stand
on
its
own.
M
Or
is
there
a
bigger
picture
view
of
like
what
we're
talking
about
the
worst
corridors
and
it
extended
beyond
just
Ramon
Road
between
certain
intersections
and
then
that
becomes
a
bigger
project
and
we
have
to
go
for
funding,
which
then
leads
us
to
come
back
to
the
measure,
J
or
grant
money.
So
the
process
has
started
and,
as
Christine
had
said,
it's
gonna
take
a
long
time
before
we
get
to
where
we
need
to
go
to
create
this
project
and
build
it
and
build
whatever
it
is.
A
M
Just
take
data
is
not
just
the
is
not
the
final
stage.
We
need
to
expand
it
and
look
at
it
through
the
engineering
lens
to
see
what
works.
What
doesn't
work,
we're
also
working
on
the
safe
routes
to
school
master
plan.
The
walkability
master
plan,
where
actually
I
just
had
on
a
review
panel
that
it's
gonna
hire
the
engineers
so
we've
already
hired
the
engineering
team.
That's
gonna.
Do
community
outreach
work
with
the
warm
sands,
try
to
gather
all
this
data,
so
we
don't
want
to
be
doing.
You
know.
M
E
M
A
Okay
and
I
guess
to
us
just
looking
to
see
because
it's
there
might
have
been
some
cost
savings.
Obviously,
if
there
was
quantity
you
know,
we've
got
it
designed
we're
doing
it
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
If
those
crosswalks,
maybe
could
have
been
done
all
at
once
and
I
realized.
It
was
more
concentrating
on
that
initial
corridor,
a
Palm
Canyon,
but
hopefully
we
can
look
at
Ramon
and
sunrise
and
I.
M
City
is
engaged
through
a
grant
the
Sun
California
Association
of
government
with
an
engineer
there.
They
haven't
awarded
it
just
yet,
but
we
we
made
the
decision
they're
moving
forward,
so
were
paying
in
the
tune
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
an
engineering
firm
to
come
in
and
review
the
entire
city
to
identify
these
corridors.
That
is
an
important
tool.
We'll
need
that
tool
to
be
able
to
justify
what
we're
doing.
Okay,
okay,.
B
M
K
Thanks
is
joe
garrelli,
a
tag-along
question
to
just
to
what
the
comment
that
you
were
making
and
a
question
that
Jim
asked
of
the
good
news.
There's
a
master
plan
coming
the
bad
news
is
it
will
take
a
long
time
for
that
to
resolve
all
the
singular
elements
that
are
kind
of
Atkins
big
concern
for
individuals.
K
If
we,
if
we
talk
about
that
as
a
good
thing
to
do,
is
there
a
framework
that
you
can
give
us
from
engineering
that
helps
us
not
spin
wheels
on
a
project
that
an
informed
person
would
say
it's
a
waste
of
money?
It's
an
incremental
step
that
would
have
been
resolved
anyways
because
the
master
plan
is
coming
in
right
behind
it
with
something
much
better
than
a
crosswalk.
Does
that
make
sense.
M
If
we
go
out
there
and
Ramon
Road
and
put
a
crosswalk,
are
we
wasting
our
money
because
that
crosswalk
probably
should
have
been
somewhere
else,
because
a
study
would
show
that
really
was.
It
should
have
been
so
done
at
the
next
intersection
over
and
we
went
ahead
and
just
we
wanted
to
build
this
crosswalk
now
and.
N
So
that's
that
what
first
eat
we're
trying
to
balance
engineering,
which
is
the
process
he
described
China
you
know,
do
the
traffic
studies
and
the
you
know,
pedestrian
studies
and
all
that
been
so
that's
the
second
year
engineering
and
then
the
third
ye
that's
important
is
education
and
that's
kind
of
where
you
as
the
Commission
could
or
actually
all
the
various
commissions
could
help
us
with
is
to
start
to
educate
the
public.
You
know
that
this
is
a
corridor
that
has
fatalities.
This
is
you
know.
N
This
is
a
corridor
that
you
should
all
be
driving
at
the
speed
limit.
That
would
help
tremendously
you
know,
but
it
takes
all
three
of
that
for
for
these
things
to
work
right,
and
so
the
part
that
the
I
can
foresee
is
measure
J,
commission,
as
well
as
all
the
other
Commission's
helping
with,
is
that
education
can
P.
N
It's
a
that's
a
different
type
of
flashing
thing,
so
there's
different
treatments
that
are
out
there
that
you
know
other
cities
in
this
Coachella
Valley
are
using
and
we
can
learn
from
them.
But
the
component
that
this
commission
could
focus
on
is
the
education
and
we
don't
have
to
wait
to
do
the
education
program.
The
simple
thing
is
driving
the
speed
limit.
You'd
be
surprised
what
a
difference
that
can
make
and
if
you
yourself
do
it
and
you
say
to
your
friends,
you
know
I
committed
to
driving
the
speed
limit.
N
N
A
And
I
want
to
comment
quickly
because
we
know
enforcement
doesn't
work
with
Ferrell
we've
reached
out
and
I
don't
want
to
get
into
weeds
on
this
because
I,
don't
really
think
this
is
particularly
measure
J
driven
here,
education,
I,
don't
really
think
falls
under
our
belly.
Look
as
well
I
think
the
problem
is
and-
and
we
have
some
council
people
that
believe
strongly
in
this.
We
have
speed
limits
that
are
too
high
in
this
city,
but
we
also
have
an
issue
where
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
streetlights.
A
We
want
to
see
the
stars
at
night,
so
our
streets
are
dark.
These
are
things
that
you
know.
We
have
wide
open
roads,
feral
sunrise,
Ramone
they're,
like
you,
could
land
Air,
Force
One
on
those
streets,
they're
wide
and
people
rip
it
up
and
everyone's
in
a
hurry,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
falls
on
this
commission.
A
A
You
know
mandate
on
how
they,
so
you
know
again,
I
think
I
think
what
we're
looking
for
is
what's
most
prudent
from
a
measure
J
standpoint
in
looking
at
an
issue
like
this
and
I'm,
not
saying
we're
making
this
a
community
project,
but
I
think
you
know
it
almost
seems
appropriate
that
this
would
come
in
as
a
capital
project
and
it
would
come
in
whether
it's
through
the
neighborhood
working
with
engineering
but
then
identifying.
You
know,
like
you,
said:
you've
we've
already
done,
Palm
Canyon!
A
So
now,
let's
it
let's
concentrate
on
Ramon
and
sunrise,
because
they
are
main
corridors,
and
you
know
at
that
time
measure
Jake
and
we
can
vote
on
it
when
it
falls
on
our
list.
But
I
think
we
also
want
to
do
what's
most
prudent,
quick,
we
don't
I
guess
if
it
came
through
as
a
community
project.
It
sounds
like
we
would
probably
get
tripped
up
with
a
lot
of
engineering
stalls
and
evaluation.
A
So
I,
rather
than
see
a
project
like
that,
come
in
as
a
whole
with
a
lot
of
areas
where
we
can
improve
this
and
again
I
know
we.
You
know
we
don't
want
to
go
crosswalk
crazy,
but
there
are
I
think
there's
very
key
areas
where
it
seems
accidents
happen
the
most
and
it's
pretty
obvious.
It's
it's
not
it's.
It's
easy
to
see
how
people
cross
to
get
to
a
store
or
commercial
area.
One
on
Sunrise
is
right:
before
the
wash
and
people
cross
to
get
to
that
strip.
A
So
you
know
I,
don't
think
it
would
be
hard
to
dissect
where
they
need
to
go
working
with
law
enforcement
and
I.
Think
what
we're
looking
at
is
we're
glad
the
certain
communities
are
coming
forward.
They've
pulled
papers
to
work
with
engineering
and
if,
if
the
most
prudent
and
efficient
way
to
go
on,
this
is
through
your
department
and
it
works
its
way
and
if
it
has
to
first
go
to
Council
for
approval
or
you
know
whatever
it
would
be
something
we
would
welcome
to
see
on
our
list
of
projects.
K
I
always
wanted
to
add
a
clarification
point
as
a
as
I
tried
to
talk
about
a
question
that
was
kind
of
hard
to
express,
I
think
what
I
was
really
getting
to
is
not
so
much.
The
specifics
of
crosswalk
is
the
answer,
but
rather
what
are
the
types
of
answers
that
are
good,
incremental
steps
that,
as
Jim
described,
we
can?
Let's
do
something
now
when
we
can
and
when
it
makes
sense.
That
is
not
completely
at
odds
with
what
a
master
plan
calls
for
at
a
later
date.
K
Guy
guide
us
so
that
when
things
percolate
over
the
next
month,
two
three
four
months
and
a
list
appears
of
let's
do
this
next
year.
It
would
be
really
helpful
for
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
of
some
of
those
component
pieces
and
community
projects
make
sense
in
relation
to
what
is
coming
in
the
future.
For
the
master
plan,
work.
O
Yeah
I
appreciate
kind
of
the
taking
a
step
back,
I
mean
I,
think
there's
this
angle
on
efficiency
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
I,
the
one
piece
that
I
think
that
maybe
could
also
be
a
priority
for
the
Commission
or
something
I
think
about
is
like
how
do
we
communicate
this
bigger
picture
to
community
members
when
there's
interest?
This
is
super
complicated,
even
for
us
who
are
looking
at
this
every
month
and
so
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
us
to
say
this
is
important.
It's
on
our.
O
I
think
we
have
to
be
able
to
answer
that
effectively
and
honestly
and
and
say
the
reason
where
it
should
be
part
of
this
bigger
plan
is
for
XYZ
reasons,
and
we
think
those
are
really
important,
but
I
know
at
least
for
me.
I,
don't
feel
like
I
always
have
that
bigger
picture
and
we're
kind
of
talking
specifics
here,
but
I'm
sure
that's
true
across
multiple
projects,
where
it's
really
important.
O
That
we're
saying
you
know
this
is
this:
is
the
you
know
the
key
pain
point
and
we
could
do
you
know
a
measure,
but
what
you
know
we're
hearing
that
we
should
wait
six
months
because
it'll
be
part
of
a
bigger
whatever
you
know,
the
bigger
focus
is
I.
Think
all
of
us
need
to
be
able
to
at
least
summarize
that
and
communicate
that
a
little
bit
more.
That.
M
I
think
I'm
understanding
where
you're
coming
for
a
minute,
the
one
person
that
might
be
then
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
and
talk
to
is
the
assistant
city
manager
who's
been
at
the
city
for
quite
a
long
time
and
has
gone
through
these
phases
or
understands
how
the
growth
of
the
city
is
and
certain
things
can
and
cannot
be
done
in
certain
area.
So
I'll
get
back
with
him,
talk
about
it
and
hopefully
next
meeting
I
can
give
you
a
better
understanding
of
them
and.
O
J
Yes,
do
grab
so
I
realize
this
isn't
measure
J,
but
it
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
you
mentioned,
and
so
I'm
curious
as
to
who
in
the
city
would
do
this
so
I
observe
every
morning
a
large
group
of
people
walking
and
they
do
not
walk
on
the
sidewalk.
They
walk
in
the
street
and
I
am
sure
that
now
that
the
sidewalks
are
done
on
sunny
dunes,
there
will
be
people
who
will
still
walk
in
the
street.
So
is
there
a
public
safety
officer
who
can
deal
with
that?
J
J
You
need
to
be
on
the
sidewalk.
Now
that
big
walking
group
leaves
from
Mizell
every
single
morning
and
they
walk
down
streets
and
there's
twenty
or
thirty
or
forty
people,
and
they
are
not
on
the
sidewalks.
So
that
is
a
public
safety
issue,
but
putting
a
sidewalk
and
having
those
people
cross
that
crosswalks
is
really
all
public
education.
Somebody
just
needs
I
mean
I,
think
it
needs
a
police
officer
or
someone
to
go
and
say
you
know,
gentlemen,
we
have
sidewalks
and
that's
why
they're
being
used
and
you
should
use
them.
N
I'm,
not
gonna,
really
I
mean
I,
know
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
and
I
understand
it
fully.
But
after
hearing
commission
chair
ghazan
speak
it
kind
of
brought
me
back,
maybe
my
suggestion
to
you
as
commissioners,
basically
your
to
evaluate
how
we
spend
our
precious
measure
J
funds
at
the
end
of
the
day.
That's
your
decision,
everybody
that
comes
to
you
to
ask
for
money,
has
great
projects
and
you
have
the
difficult
decision
to.
We
don't
have
money
to
fund
everybody
to
figure
out.
How
is
the
best
use
of
this
measure
J
fund?
N
So
if,
in
your
mind
you
want
to
put
in
your
head,
you
know
does
tying
up
our
money
for
six
or
seven
years.
Is
that
a
good
use
of
our
measure,
J
funds?
Or
do
we
want
to
fund
things
that
can
be
accomplished
immediately
or
do
we
want
to
have
a
mixed
bag
of
it?
Some
long
terms
of
medium
term,
some
immediate
that
we
can
get
immediate
returns
on
those
funds?
N
So
you
guys
individually,
will
have
to
kind
of
put
that
in
your
head
as
you're,
making
these
decisions
on
projects,
because
all
of
your
concerns
are
correct
and
questions,
but
to
get
out
of
all
the
little
weeds
of
the
minutiae
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you're
figuring
out
how
to
best
use
the
measure
J
of
funds.
So
if,
in
your
own
decision-making
process,
that
is
a
factor
like
this
will
tie
up
money
for
a
long
time
or
this,
the
benefits
are
tighten
up
that
money
out
ways.
N
You
know
tying
up
that
bunny
or
maybe
we're
getting.
You
know
four
three:
four
million
dollars
free
and
grant
money
by
leveraging
two
million
dollars.
Maybe
that
was
a
good
use
of
tying
of
the
money,
but
you,
as
individuals,
will
kind
of
have
to
use
that
as
in
your
decision-making
process,
because
you
have
a
difficult
task
of
you
know
not
funding
certain
projects
that
are
very
deserving
of
that.
Your
J
flats
and.
M
A
Cut
Commissioner
Bernstein
I.
P
A
The
old
business
is
a
discussion
basically
of
about
outreach
as
far
as
community
projects
and
it
kind
of
dovetails
in
with
the
communication
subcommittee,
because
the
communication
subcommittee
actually
talked
about
it
as
part
of
their
communications
and
outreach.
So
if,
if
we're
an
agreement
on
this,
if
we
could
skip
to
new
business
and
luck,
Commissioner
Bernstein
talk
about
that
and
then
that
will
it
will
usher
us
into
that
discussion.
Yeah.
Would
everyone
be
able.
J
A
P
You
so
we
make
mr.
Robin
gray,
laughs
and
I
as
the
communications
committee,
and
we
did,
we
did
for
cover
four
areas,
and
one
of
them
which
ties
into
what
we're
just
talking
about
is
really
a
project.
Review
and
selection
process
and
I
know
that
this
meeting
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
list
of
the
unfunded
capital
projects
and
I.
P
Think
since
we're
all
relatively
new
felt
like
we
were
being
given
a
list
of
projects
that
we
hadn't
been
in
from
the
inception,
we
weren't
really
quite
sure
you
know
how
relevant
we
were,
how
old
they
were.
Now
whether
there
was
alternative
sources
of
funding,
and
we
had
recommended
that
we
maybe
have
a
subcommittee
that
sort
of
goes
through
all
that
before
were
presented
to
vote
on
them
to
make
sure
and
then
see
if
there
is
potentially
something
else
that
could
be.
P
You
know
added
to
that
to
that
group
that
we
felt
like
at
least
for
the
last
one
was
when
several
of
us
were
knew
that
we
were
sort
of
given
the
final
list
and
say
yes
or
no.
And
how
do
you
want
to
do
it
as
opposed
to
really
having
a
chance
to
understand
you
know
and
and
and
potentially
speak
to
the
people
who
submitted
him
whether
they
were
still
priority,
whether
whether
they
they
had
other
sources
of
funding
or
whether
they
wanted
to
switch
around
and
and
as
opposed
to
just
having
this
list?
P
Another
one
was
had
to
do
with
the
call
for
projects
which
sort
of
speaks
to
some
of
the
public
comments
today
was
that
we
understand
that
there's
a
lot
of
burden
and
trying
to
do
open
up
comments
and
suggestions
from
the
whole
community
and
the
whole
process.
So
there
again,
we
suggested
that
there
potentially
be
a
subcommittee
that
just
sort
of
organizes
it
and
and
specifically
try
to
use
existing
other
Commission's,
whether
it's
sustainability
of
Parks
and
Recreation
or
1ps,
or
the
neighborhood
groups
to
filter
a
lot
of
it
and
a
lot
of
suggestions.
P
There
was
a
lot
of
ideas
and
how
to
also
get
community
outreach
that
may
not
just
go
through
one
PS
or
neighborhood
groups,
not
everybody's.
In
a
neighborhood
or
the
Commission's,
we
all
specifically
mentioned
that
Commissioner
Soto
should
be
on
the
subcommittee,
so
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
be,
but
you
had
a
lot
of
good
ideas
in
the
past.
P
P
We
had
our
own
message,
a
mailer
that
both
talked
about
what
we
had
done
as
well
as
a
call
for
additional
projects.
Obviously,
that
has
to
be
coordinated,
couldn't
coordinated
with
the
call
for
projects
subcommittee,
and
there
was
some
outside
discussion
with
way
the
city
manager
about
additional
$15,000
in
funding
for
sitting
for
a
mailer,
and
we
were
gonna
ask
him
today,
but
he's
not
here.
P
P
P
C
N
A
J
Some
permanent
or
I
I
don't
know
what
else,
but
but
like
on
the
Kinnear
somewhere
near
the
Camellia,
White
House
or
those
kind
of
things
where
it
would
be
a
a
marker.
You
know,
and
that
might
need
to
be
inside
of
the
cannula
white
because
of
that
historic
or
what,
but
but
whatever
it
would
be
intended
to
be.
J
Not
because
this
is
this
is
kind
of
a
you
know.
So
you
wouldn't
want
it
on
every
sidewalk,
but
you,
those
other
things,
are
kind
of
things
and
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
I
think
we
would
leave
it
up
to
engineering
as
to
how
often
they
have
to
be
stamped
in
the
sidewalk.
But
you
know
I,
don't
know
if
it's
every
quarter
mile
or
every
half
a
mile
or
every
block
or
I
have
no
idea.
But
that's
that
would
be
something
else
that
you
guys
would
deal
with.
I.
L
Have
a
point
of
view
about
that?
I
I've
thought
a
lot
about
your
report.
Last
I
mean
I,
really
am
not
excited
at
all
about
stamping
sidewalks
I.
Think
it's
like
Commissioner
gray
and
I
found
the
things
down
in
the
plaza
that
have
been
put
there
in
nineteen
whatever
and
had
to
come
to
you
and
say
what
is
this
and
I
am
a
big
supporter
of
signs
and
when
projects
are
ongoing,
I
think
we
should
let
everybody
know.
L
My
opinion
is
when
they're
done,
they're
done
on
a
building
might
be
a
longevity,
but
on
the
sidewalks
I
think
it's
just
more
clutter
and
this
commission
will
not
go
on
forever.
There
is
an
end
to
this
commission
and
you
know
they're
going
to
come
along
and
say
what
is
that?
That's
just
my
personal
opinion,
I
think
it's
expensive
I'd
rather
see
you
do
more
pamphlets.
Your
pamphlet
was
excellent.
I
would
like
to
see
that
go
to
one
PS
and
come
to
every
board.
L
L
Maybe
you've
changed
it
every
three
months,
so
you
have
to
have
a
web
smart
person,
so
it
can't
just
people's
attention.
They
just
don't
see
the
same
time
so
I'm
I'm
all
for
putting
things
on
buildings
when
it's
appropriate
I
really
have
trouble,
stamping
sidewalks
I
think
nobody
can
answer
where
or
what
sidewalk
and
that's
just
my
personal
opinion.
I
do
I
really
support
the
flag
idea
and
all
the
signs
that
have
been
put
when
projects
are
ongoing.
L
A
O
A
couple
of
thoughts,
one
around
the
mailings
I
know
the
city
has
started
doing
the
poolside
magazine.
That's
going
out,
I
think
on
a
quarterly
basis,
right,
which
is
pretty
substantial,
and
you
know
done
in
collaboration
with
the
chamber
and
so
I
think
that
might
be
a
place
where
measure
J
could
regularly
be
giving
updates
that
wouldn't
be
a
cost
on
us
in
terms
of
mailing.
O
Just
when
the
construction
is
going
in
place,
I
think
the
it's
valuable
for
the
community
to
have
an
understanding
of
what
has
been
funded
throughout
the
city
with
measure
J
funds,
it's
kind
of
out
of
sight
out
of
mind
and
wide,
then
I
would
hate
to
see
like.
Why
do
we
have
this
tax?
What
does
it
do
right
and
so
I
don't
have
any
strong
opinions
about
the
frequency
of
the
stamps
or
whatever,
but
I
do
I.
O
K
Before
I
joined,
the
Commission
and
I
had
observed
that
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
discussion
about
stamps,
stamping
and
commemorat
commemorative
to
Commissioner
footers
comments
of
not
really
being
important
and
missing
the
point
in
missing
the
point
of
the
improvement,
at
least,
if
that's
a
fair
way
to
describe
it,
that
the
improvement
is
the
result,
not
not
a
commemorative
plaque.
That
said,
this
can
and
measure
J's
gonna
be
around
for
a
long
time,
even
if
it
does
have
a
set
expiration
date.
K
Visibility
is
useful
for
the
mission
of
communication
and
reinforcing
why
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
I
think
the
punch
line
on
my
point
here
is
the
the
professionals
in
the
city
guiding
us
on
what
is
a
reasonable
frequency
for
a
concrete
stamp
I'd
hope.
It
hope,
where
we
have
self-restraint
and
our
judicious
and
certainly
when
a
new
building
is
constructed.
K
Please
put
something
commemorative
on
it
to
recognize
the
hard
work
of
the
city
and
if
that
involves
measure,
J
good
for
measure
J
and
then,
if
I
could
also
add
to
add
a
few
more
points
of
what
Commissioner
Bernstein
was
describing
this
really
this.
This
working
group
or
subcommittee
initiation
has
to
two
distinct
phases:
phase
one
is
to
help
reorient
all
of
us
as
to
what's
coming
soon
for
the
next
cycle
of
funding
and
then
a
much
bigger
place,
and
with
that,
with
that
effort,
the
thought
was
a
working
group.
K
A
subcommittee
could
do
a
good
amount
of
legwork
for
the
balance
of
the
commissioners
so
that
there's
leading
to
water
to
help
make
that
homework
process
easier
for
everybody.
That's
this
bigger
phase
is
a
lot
of
what
Christine
Hammond
was
describing
the
invention
of
the
wheel
several
years
ago.
We
don't
want
to
reinvent
the
wheel,
we'd
like
to
do
a
better,
smarter
way
that
has
the
benefit
of
hindsight
of
all
the
hard
work.
K
Other
people
did
that
has
it
as
its
objective,
a
timeline
that
hits
a
year
and
a
half
out
of
the
subsequent
cycle
of
funding
requests
so
that
we
can
engage
more
broadly
with
the
proxy's
of
parks
and
recs
and
ps1,
and
so
on
and
having
them
act
as
filtering
nodes
that
doesn't
have
may
be.
The
unintended
consequence
of
a
very
wide
net
means
there
is
a
shopping
cart
full
of
binders
that
everybody
needs
to
weed
through
maybe.
A
A
Oh
wow,
so
it
costs
us
nothing.
I
will
say
the
stamps
are
extremely
subtle.
They
are
very
subtle.
There's
one
in
my
neighborhood.
They
typically
go
in
the
location
of
the
at
a
corner
where
you
ramp
down,
and
you
really
have
to
be
on
top
of
it
to
see
it.
You're
not
gonna,
see
it
from
a
distance
they're,
not
colored
they're,
not
God
and
gaudy,
so
they're,
just
subtle,
they're
elegant
actually
and
it
and
it
I,
don't
know
when
I
see
it
a
stamp.
It
kind
of
gives
me
a
little
smile.
A
I
see
you
know
what.
Obviously
someone
was
concerned
about
the
sidewalk
project
and
and
I've
seen
them
in
this
city
in
other
cities,
and
it
just
gives
a
little
bit
of
history
and
and
kind
of
the
train
has
left
the
station
on
that,
because
it's
it's
something
we
agreed
upon
and
and
are
moving
forward
with
I'm
happy
to
look
at
I.
A
Guess
I
want
to
look
at
this
call
for
projects
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
wanted.
We
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
time
left
today,
but
I
would
like
to
get
a
good
road
map
between
maybe
start
today
finish
in
December,
how
we
want
to
look
at
outreach
and
how
we
want
to
look
at
what
our
next
community
projects
will
be
and
I
will
kind
of
give
I,
don't
know,
maybe
I'm
tipping
my
hand
and
giving
an
opinion.
A
You
know.
Christine
presented
and
I
talked
to
another
early
first-generation
commissioner
this
morning
actually-
and
it
just
was
by
happenchance-
that
we
I
found
out
that
she
was
on
the
very
first
measure,
Jay
Commission
and
what
they
went
through
was
brutal
and
they
said
they
would
never
join
the
Commission
again
if
they
had
to
go
through
that
type
of
minutia
of
so
many
projects
it
was,
it
just
took
enormous
amount
of
times
their
meetings
were
pushing
in
almost
four
hours
and
they're
just
like
no.
A
We
would
never
do
that
again
and
there's
not
been
a
lot
of
history
as
far
this
commission,
so
it
became
rather
apparent
through
1ps.
That
hot
spots
was
definitely
a
big
issue,
and
that
was
something
that
boiled
up
and
it
became
a
much
bigger
project
than
obviously
one
community
project
could
one
year's
budget
could
sustain
so
it
it
was
carried
out
over
multiple
years
and
then
that
that
commission
saw
parks
as
a
need
and
Parks
has
been
a
need
and
they've
come
to
the
table
a
lot
so
I'm
gonna
speak
for
them
too.
A
That
were
here
today
and
I
have
not
talked
to
them
outside
of
this
arena,
but
they've
been
denied
and
when
they
finally
were
said,
you
know
the
Commission
was
like.
Yes,
we're
gonna
make
you
a
community
project,
then
the
money
got
basically
taken
from
them
and
has
been
given
to
the
downtown
park,
which
I
feel
like
they've,
gotten
kind
of
robbed.
Every
time
with
us
and
so
I
feel
parks
is
very
worthy
as
something
for
us
to
consider
as
a
community
project
fairly
soon,
because
I
think
it's
something
that's
been
on.
A
The
back
burner
and
they've
been
pushed
aside
and
I
do
feel
we're
putting
a
lot
of
eggs
in
one
basket
with
the
downtown
park.
I
wish
it
wasn't
that
costly
and
I
wish.
We
could
spread
a
little
bit
of
that
love
of
that
eight
million
dollars
to
sunrise
park
and
to
Jessie
Oh
James,
but
council
felt
differently,
and
so
you
know
it's
up
to
us
to
look
at
some
of
the
deficits
at
these.
These
parks
and
I
think
it.
A
A
We've
got
1ps
got
other
Commission's
and
we've
got
our
own
Commission.
People
are
allowed
to
come
here
and
speak
to
us
and
they
can
give
us
their
ideas.
We're
not
secret.
So
I
think
you
know
between
those
three,
that's
a
pretty
wealth
and
and
of
you
know,
acceptance
of
finding
these
projects
and
again
I'm
not
opposed
to
something
in
a
mailer.
We
can
see
what
it
provides
and
it
doesn't
guarantee
anything,
but
we
know
a
million
doesn't
go
far
and
we'll
leave
it.
I'll
leave
it
at
that
Commissioner
Bernstein.
So.
P
Yeah,
this
was
actually
the
basis
of
the
discussion
about
whether
we
have
a
subcommittee
that
looks
into
this
is
that
we
don't
want
to
go
through
all
this
in
the
past.
We
probably
we
had
a
very
good
information
today.
We
probably
need
some
more
information
it.
It
did
seem
a
little
bit
unfair,
that
the
people
who
get
considered
are
the
ones
who
you
know
know
how
to
go
through
the
process
and
that
there
may
be
some
people
who
have
valid
ideas.
Who
don't
you
know
and
most
of
the
measure
J
stuff,
that's
out.
P
There
doesn't
really
have
a
call
for
action.
The
other
suggestion
that
came
up
was
to
have
a
lot
of
the
suggested
projects
posted
online
within
comments
by
it,
so
that,
if
something
wasn't
considered
or
if
it
was
combined
into
another
project
or
if
it
was
under
review
by
engineering,
that
people
kind
of
knew
what
was
going
on
as
opposed
to
as
opposed
to
just
wondering,
we
said,
lost
in
the
pipeline
for
ten
years,
and
some
of
these
things
do
take
a
long
time
and
they
are
being
considered.
P
Other
ones
are
engineering,
or
somebody
may
have
said
this
doesn't
make
sense
so
part
of
the
idea
behind
the
call
the
subcommittee
I'm.
The
outreach
was
to
come
up
with
a
plan
that
wouldn't
necessarily
be
instituted
right
away.
But
what
happened?
If
you
know,
we
can't
do
a
call
for
action
now
for
anything
to
be
funded
next
year,
but
we
could
start
the
process
of
a
call
for
action
for
things
that
would
be
considered
for
the
following
year,
separate
apart
from
anything
that
we
want
to
do
right
now
and.
A
A
Right
community
projects,
but
we
haven't
given
it
direction
that
million
okay,
so
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
deadline,
I
mean
I.
Guess,
there's
not
a
deadline
on
it.
It's
money,
that's
there,
I,
don't
know
you
know
again.
We
can
discuss
if
we
want
to
at
some
point
at
least
designate
the
current
community
projects,
something
in
the
meantime
still
having
a
subcommittee
to
look
at.
You
know
outreach
to
get
input
from
the
community
for
future
community
projects.
J
I
I
mean
I'm
part
of
this
committee,
so
I
I
think
I
think
really
what
we
had
a
lot
discussion.
As
Commissioner
Bernstein
said
what
we
really
felt
was
that
it
would
be
behoove
us
to
have
like
four
people
from
this
commission
to
do
to
really
look
at
the
process.
Yes,
there
was
a
process
done
several
years
ago,
there's
all
kinds
of
things,
but
the
Commission
is
basically
a
fairly
new
Commission.
J
You
know
maybe
six
years
under
its
belt
and
so,
rather
than
all
of
us
spending
hours
here,
nine
people
trying
to
talk
about
how
we're
going
to
do
this.
It
seemed
better
for
us
to
have
four
people
at
least
look
at
well
I
understand.
There
are
forums
online,
I've,
never
looked
at
those
forums.
Where
are
those
forums?
How
do
you
get
to
those
forums
I'm?
Where
did
the
form
go
at
so
forth?
I
think.
J
The
other
thing
that's
really
important
is
to
put
that
down
so
that
we
all
as
well
as
new
commissioners,
understand
kind
of
what
we
are
looking
for
in
a
call
to
action,
and
that
would
certainly
b4
if
we,
if
we
got
all
that
work
done
by
let's
say
March
or
April
of
this
year.
That
would
be
for
the
years
after
that,
it's
not
the
current
year.
J
But
if
we
don't
do
something
now
pretty
soon
we'll
be
in
April
and
then
we'll
be
talking
about
this
again
and
we
don't
have
a
process
and
I
think
that's
the
thing
that
the
Commish
Communications
was
concerned
with
is
to
get
a
process.
I
think
part
of
that
process
is
feedback
to
anyone
who
submits.
If
you
sign
a,
if
you
some
submit
for
a
grant
from
any
organization
state
federal
nonprofit,
whatever
you
submit
a
grant,
they
have
guidelines
how
you
submit
that
grant
what
they're
looking
for.
We
have
no
guidelines.
J
Then,
if
you
get
the
grant,
you
get
a
lovely
letter
that
says:
congratulations.
You
got
the
grant.
If
you
didn't
get
the
grant
get
a
letter
that
says
sorry,
you
didn't
get
the
grant.
We
don't
communicate
with
all
these
people
who
submitted
anything.
So
of
course
they
don't
know
what
happened,
and
so
they
can
keep.
You
know
the
squeaky
wheel
will
keep
coming
to
the
meeting
and
saying
well.
You
know
we
asked
you
three
years
ago
and
well.
J
We
still
want
to
ask
you,
but
a
lot
of
people
won't
do
that
so
I
think
it's
I
would
really
like
to
see
at
least
four
people.
Well,
we
can't
have
more
than
four
so
at
these
four
people
who
would
be
willing
to
work
on
the
process.
I
think
that's
really
what
we're
talking
about
and
then
the
communication
to
the
committee
community
about
what
we've
done
and
what
we're
gonna
do
and
all
that
that
can
either
be
a
separate
mailing
or
it
can
go
and
whatever's
current
or
I.
J
A
A
J
A
B
B
Because
you
were
appointed
also
for
the
library
in
September,
are
you
remaining
and
then
in
that
subcommittee
or
were
reappointing.
P
B
A
B
J
J
O
A
J
A
All
goes
with
it.
Yes,
so
let's,
let's
get
to
that
vote
then
do
we
want
all
in
favor
of
creating
that
subcommittee
I.
Anyone
opposed
okay,
I
guess
we
can
just
nominate
from
the
floor.
I
would
nominate
Naomi
Soto
to
be
on
that
committee.
D
A
And
I
think
you're
in
good
hands
with
the
other
commissioners.
Okay,
so
we
have
commissioners
Soto
the
branch
sir
and
Craig
on
that
subcommittee.
So
next
meeting
we'll
just
have
four
old
business
that
will
discuss
well
we're
not
in
a
real
hurry.
Then,
if
we're
looking
at
2021
I'm
not
going
to
be
overly
concerned
with
that
at
this
point,
I
would
like
to
move
on
very
quickly.
Is
there
a
quick
update
from
the
library
subcommittee
or
if
no
news
is
good
news?
I.
A
B
Two
nights:
they
will
have
its
voted
in
to
prove
that
correct,
starting
January
they've
changed
their
meetings
to
the
second
and
fourth
Thursday
of
the
month.
However,
there
are
two
months
where
they've
rescheduled
their
meeting
to
the
third
Thursday
and
that
would
affect
the
Commission's
meeting.
So
we
can.
J
B
J
P
F
O
B
A
J
Can
you
bring
them?
Can
you
bring
back
a
suggested
dates
in
May
cuz
May
is
five
or
six
months
from
now,
when
other
Commission's
wouldn't
be
conflicting
with
this
or
city
council
wouldn't
be
conflicting
with
us
and
see.
If
see,
council
also
has
a
date
for
our
joint
meeting
in
May
and
if
they
do,
that
would
be
helpful
to
know
now
too,
because
we
joint,
we
always
have
a
joint
meeting
with
the
City
Council
in
May.
So
we
need
to
be
before
whenever
that
joint
meeting
is
I,
don't
know
when
the
joint.
A
P
A
Well
and
I
was
actually
gonna
bringing
that
up
when
we
came
to
Commissioner
comments,
because
we
didn't
start
that
list
today,
so
I
would
like
to
start
next
month,
I'm,
assuming
we're
all
good
with
meeting
in
December.
Sometimes
that
is
a
dark
month
and
I
would
like
to
start
to
look
at
the
list
that
we
will
be
proposing
to
City
Council
I,
don't
know
my
opinion
on
this
I
wouldn't
I'm,
not
keen
on
a
subcommittee
on
that
I
think
I
think
I.
A
What
I
would
like
is
for
us
to
all
scrutinize
it
together
and
we
can
go
through
this
list.
We
and
and
what
I
appreciate,
is
I
appreciate
a
priority
from
staff.
What
is
your,
what
would
you
like
to?
What
does
the
city
want
done
and
then
we
can
decide
from
there
and
we
don't
always
we're
not
always
eye-to-eye
and
I
appreciate
how
our
Commission
has
looked
at
some
of
this
and
the
city
might
want
the
plaza
theater
and
we
said
no
and
I
want
us.
A
P
A
M
Would
come
to
to
the
Commission
as
a
new
project?
Yes,
and
it
would
go
into
the
unfunded
projects
and
we
would
it
would
identify
what
it
is
the
scope
of
it
and
we
would
put
it
that's
what
I
did
to
a
call
for
projects
sort
of
in
my
own
way
to
all
the
department,
heads
and
maybe
I
didn't
parts
might
have
not
gotten
that,
but
yeah
we
could.
If
they
do
come,
we
could
add
it
to
the
unfunded
projects.
Okay,.
A
And
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
being
proactive
and
coming
to
you
because
I
mean
that
could
be
something
again,
that
we
could
avoid
a
million
dollars
on
community
projects.
If
some
of
this
is
in
a
capital
project
like
the
restrooms,
which
was
a
great
project,
that
we
agreed
upon,
Commissioner
Sir.
O
I'm
I,
like
the
idea
of
starting
in
December
the
spring,
was
really
rushed
so
I'm
appreciating
that
we're
starting
a
little
bit
earlier.
One
thing:
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
it's
done
in
conjunction
with
looking
at
the
list,
but
one
thing
that
was
really
helpful
in
this.
The
process
with
the
library
is
getting
a
set
of
criteria
down
and
having
everyone
be
in
agreement
as
to
the
criteria
of
what
makes
a
good
projects
how
we
feel
comfortable
or
whatever,
to
then
guide
our
conversations
through
that
list.
O
M
They
those
paragraphs
exist
right
now,
I
find
them.
We
did
reach
out
right
to
try
to
refresh
them.
So
we've
done
that
already,
so
we
did
that
for
the
last
round.
So
the
lists
are
the
descriptors
are
very
current.
We
could
go
ahead
and
reach
out
again
to
see
you
know.
Did
these
fall
out
of
favor?
Do
you
still
want
these
as
priorities?
Yes,
No
right,
there's
their
alternate
funding,
which
is
always
difficult.
That's
why
they're
on
this
list,
probably
to
get
the
funding.
J
So
the
only
other
question
I
have
is
that
from
what
I
heard
from
Parks
and
Recreation,
at
least
from
some
of
the
people
who
spoke,
was
that,
yes,
we
were
funding
what
they
considered
and
what
a
lot
of
people
would
consider
is
maintenance
and
upkeep,
but
not
necessarily
a
new
thing
like
more
new
pickleball
courts
or
a
new
tennis
courts
or
whatever
the
new
thing
might
be.
Can
you
on
the
list
identify
as
well?
J
What
is
a
new
project
and
what
is
a
maintenance,
or
you
know,
I
need
a
new
roof
or
I
need
a
new
bathroom.
That's
that's
really
deferred
maintenance
that
has
been
so
long
that
we
have
to
do
it,
but
it
is
not
necessarily
something
brand
new
now
I
know
when
you
know
you
remodel
a
bathroom
I,
guess
the
bathrooms
new,
but
that's
really
I,
don't
think
how
they
were
looking
at
it.
So
I'm
just
curious.
J
A
D
Just
wanted
for
for
clarification,
I
was
chairman
of
Parks
and
Recreation
at
the
time
that
we
came
to
the
Commission
and
they
approved
Christine
Hammond
came
to
the
Commission
and
said
we'd
like
you
to
bring
us
a
community
project.
It
was
not
to
do
new
things.
It
was
to
change
the
whole
physical
Sunrise
Park
because
of
a
homeless
situation,
and
there
were
designs
that
were
brought
to
the
Commission
at
that
time
of
landscaping
and
different
things
from
pickleball,
etc.
To
change
the
whole
dimension.
D
Do
you
remember
Don,
okay,
but
that
was
the
proposal
at
the
time
and
that
at
that
time
the
two
that
were
approved
were
the
police
and
Parks
and
Recreation.
They
were
given
that
and
a
member
of
the
Commission
at
that
time
said.
I
want
to
put
a
caveat
on
to
it
that,
if
the,
if
the
downtown
park
needs
that
two
million
dollars
that
we
get
it
and
that's
what
happened,
but
it
was
designed
to
change
the
physical
dimension
of
it
because
of
the
shopping
center
across
the
street,
the
panhandling
etc.
J
Commissioner,
Craig
just
brought
something
to
my
head
so
with
the
library's
recommendation
and
there
was
some
talk
at
City
Council.
A
master
plan
for
Sunrise
Park
is
some
more
in
discussion.
I,
don't
know
if
it's
actually
being
done
and
I
don't
know.
If
it's
going
to
cost
well,
it
must
gonna
cost
money.
I
would
think.
So.
If
that
actually
isn't
on
the
list,
I
guess
I
would
like
someone
to
find
from
David
ready.
Why
it's
not
on
the
list
and
what
does
that
mean?
I.
A
Like
Naomi's
idea
of
our
Commissioner
Soto's
idea
on
some
criteria
as
we
look
at
this,
so
if
you
think
of
a
criteria
that
might
be
important
to
you,
let's
not
overwhelm
her,
but
maybe
as
a
commissioner,
you
could
email
that
idea
to
Ariana
just
and
then
I'll
even
create
a
spreadsheet
on
it.
Once
you
get.
L
A
Some
and
we
can
look
at
it
and
see
what's
valid
and
I,
don't
want
it
to
be
too
much
because
then
it's
going
to
be
too
overwhelming
for
us,
so
you
want
to
keep
the
criteria.
You
know
limited,
like
maybe
five
strong
points
and
and
and
it
can
be,
does
this
community
this
project
benefit
the
community
as
a
whole?
Yes
or
no,
does
this
benefit
the
CID
in
doing
its
work?
Is
this
a
safety
issue?
You
know
it
could
be
something
like
reroofing.
You
know,
reroofing
is
nothing
sexy.
A
It
doesn't
really
benefit
the
community,
but
it
keeps
everyone
at
City
Hall
dry
when
it
rains.
So
you
know
those
are
things
and-
and
we
could
have
kind
of
that
set.
So
if,
if
you
think
about
this
over
the
next
few
weeks,
maybe
just
shoot
ariana,
name
email
and
then
you
can
kind
of
compile
it
and
feel
free
to
send
it
to
all
of
us,
and
we
can.
N
A
Yeah
and
then
we
can
and
then
that
would
be
a
starting
point,
a
springboard
and
then
from
there
we
can
yeah
edit,
but
I
like
that
idea
and
I
think
it
will
keep
us
focused
on
all
these
projects,
because
then
it
becomes
kind
of
a
tally
at
the
end,
and
you
know
the
tallies
at
the
end
speak
a
lot.
So
that's.
L
N
As
I
was
preparing
the
projects
to
share
with
you
guys,
including
with
that
paragraph
about
describing
the
project,
was
that
checklist
and
I
actually
checked
the
boxes
of
which
ones
some
met,
four
of
them,
some
that
only
two
of
them,
but
it's
just
data
for
you
to
help
inform
your
decision.
But
if
you
as
a
commission
want
to
change
that
criteria,
it's
very
easy
yeah.
So.
D
I'd
like
to
see
about
looking
into
it
the
next
meeting
when
they
started
to
build
the
downtown
hotel
before
that
that
street
there
was
used
for
portable
bathrooms
that
were
really
large,
walk
up
steps,
and
that
was
those
were
the
bathrooms
for
downtown.
They
had
two
of
them
two
for
men
for
women
and
then
the
rest
was
parking.
D
Then
that's
been
changed
now
and
that
was
gone
and
then
they
started
using
bathrooms
and
the
city
paid
$500
a
month
to
certain
places,
the
Coffee,
Bean,
etc,
and
it
got
out
of
hand
for
people
and
I'm
there
on
Thursdays
for
the
police
and
people
are
always
asking
where's
the
bathroom.
Where
can
I
go
I'd
like
us
to
find
out
what
happened
to
those
units
that
we
used
and
is
there
something
that
we
could
bring
back.
P
D
D
The
second
thing,
I
wanted
to
say,
is
I
wanted
us
to
put
down
for
consideration
at
the
next
meeting
two
of
those
12-foot
banners
that
I
was
talking
about
before
to
make
sure
we
have
them
for
the
picnic,
so
the
booth
really
stands
out
and
that
we
have
a
lot
of
these
type
of
materials
to
give
out
to
people,
because
people
walk
up
and
the
first
question
I've
done
it
two
years
in
a
row
they
say
so
what
is
measure
J?
So
it's
I
think
we
need
to
really
make
a
real
smash
in
March.