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A
C
C
C
B
Chair
burkett
is
excused
this
evening
and
vice
chair
huff
will
be
conducting
today's
meeting.
You
do
have
a
quorum.
A
Thank
you.
May
we
have
a
staff
report,
please,
on
the
posting
of
the
agenda.
D
D
A
Your
hand
any
opposed
okay.
The
motion
passes
four
to
four.
A
Public
comment:
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
historic
site,
preservation
board
on
agenda
items
and
items
otherwise
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
board,
although
the
historic
site,
preservation
board
values.
All
of
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
is
generally
cannot
take
any
action
on
items
that
are
not
listed
on
the
posted
agenda.
A
A
Thank
you.
If
there
are
no
speakers,
then
we
will
proceed
to
the
consent
agenda.
1A
is
approval
of
the
minutes.
Are
there
any
revision
revisions
to
the
minutes
of
the
meeting
of
september
1st
2020.
D
Catherine,
the
minutes
are
reported
correctly,
but
I
gave
some
wrong
information
on
item
4b
about
the
original
merito
tract
and
then
the
las
palmas
track
the
original
one.
I
said
it
was
west
of
vialola,
it's
not
it's
south
of
the
alola
and
the
later
track
was
north
of
the
alola
predominantly
so.
I
gave
the
wrong
directions.
I'm
used
to
a
grid
plan.
A
A
Okay,
all
in
favor,
say
aye,
aye
aye,
and
so
the
motion
passes
with
one
abstinent
abstention.
So
catherine,
I
abstain
as
well.
I
was
not
okay,
two
two
two
abstentions
and
and
two
in
favor
motion
passes
there.
A
So
next
we
are
going
to
go
to
public
hearings.
Number
two
on
the
agenda:
2a
jeremy,
scott
owner
requesting
class
1,
landmark
historic
site,
designation
for
the
arthur
elrod
residence,
a
class
3
historic
site
located
at
2175,
southridge
drive.
B
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
As
noted,
this
is
an
application
that
has
been
brought
in
by
the
property
owner.
The
owner
has
worked
with
the
firm
robert
chaddlin
associates
to
provide
the
historic
resources
report,
which
was
the
basis
of
the
staff
analysis
and
the
staff
report
in
your
staff
report.
We've
identified
and
talked
about
the
characteristics
that
are
present
at
the
elrod
house
and
beginning
on
page.
B
The
information
continues
through
your
staff
report,
identifying
arthur
elrod
as
a
person
of
significance
recognizing
his
contribution
that
was
made
throughout
southern
california
as
one
of
the
preeminent
interior
designers
from
the
mid-century
period.
Also,
of
course,
the
architect
of
the
elrod
house.
B
John
lautner
was
recognized
as
a
significant
architect,
who
has
influenced
others
in
his
profession
and
for
the
project.
The
building's
high
artistic
value,
the
the
application
does
not
assert
that
the
site
has
recognition
in
terms
of
a
period
of
significance.
B
However,
we've
noted
in
the
staff
report
that
the
house
does
carry
an
exhibit
many
of
the
characteristics
of
brutalism,
which
is
a
style
that
was
popular
during
the
late
60s
and
early
70s
in
much
of
the
united
states,
and
I
had
provided
for
you
by
an
email
prior
to
this
meeting,
an
additional
agenda
of
information
that
was
provided
to
us
by
the
robert
chattle
group.
B
B
The
building
generally
exhibits
strong
and
historic
integrity
in
all
instances,
and
all
these
characteristics
I
will
bring
to
your
attention.
On
page
seven,
we
did
discuss
the
the
design
of
the
l
rod
house,
which
is
credited
as
a
original
of
the
construction
in
1969,
with
a
addition
off
the
north
side
done
in
1970
in
excuse
me,
1970.
B
in
1971,
after
the
filming
of
the
movie
at
the
house,
diamonds
are
forever.
There
was
damage
done
to
one
of
the
large
expanses
of
glass
that
are
facing
west
in
the
home
and
lautner
was
brought
back
in
and
designed
a
retractable
or
moving
glass
panel
there
that
exists
in
the
house
today.
B
The
report
notes
that
the
lottery
designed
another
modification
after
elrod's
death
in
1974,
but
it
did
not
characterize
the
nature
of
that
work.
So,
although
several
modifications
about
turn
alterations
have
occurred
over
time,
have
not
diminished
the
design
integrity
of.
B
On
page,
nine
of
your
staff
report
is
a
listing
of
the
recommended
character.
Defining
features
for
this
site.
Obviously
its
expressionistic,
organic
and
brutalist
style
of
architecture
is
the
key
feature:
the
integration
of
the
building
with
its
site,
the
integration
or
blending
of
indoor
and
outdoor
the
open
plan.
The
board
formed
concrete
texture
of
the
port
in
place,
concrete
and
so
on.
B
Sorry
so,
in
conclusion,
our
staff
report
recommends
based
on
the
historic
resources
report
that
the
home
does
qualify
as
a
historic
site
under
criterias,
2,
4
and
5,
and
retains
a
high
degree
of
historic
integrity.
The
staff
recommendation
is
for
the
board
to
recommend
to
the
city
council
class,
1
historic
site
designation
for
this
parcel.
B
This
is
a
public
hearing,
madam
chair,
and
I
know
that
the
representative
of
the
owner
is
with
us
here.
Mark
haddawi,
the
individuals
from
robert
chattel's
office,
mr
channel
himself
and
olivia
white,
or
the
authors
of
the
historic
resources
report
are
also
here,
and
I
turn
it
over
to
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
me.
May
we
have
questions
for
mr
lyon.
Does
any
of
the
board
members
have
any
questions
so?
Mr
nelson.
C
Okay,
my
question
for
stuff
is
pertaining
to
the
greenhouse
and
just
wondering
if
any
request
or
permit
for
demolition
of
the
greenhouse
was
made.
B
The
project
has
a
building,
permit,
that's
associated
with
it.
I
do
not
know
the
scope
of
that
building
permit,
obviously,
in
the
historic
resources
report
that
was
prepared
by
chatel
and
associates,
there
were
photographs
of
that
greenhouse
and
at
your
site
visit,
which
was
the
last
week
of
september,
the
greenhouse
had
been
removed
from
the
site.
F
Yeah
my
question
regards
the
physical
historic
features
specifically
number
eight.
It
says
the
dark
gray
pigmented
concrete
driveway
when
we
had
the
site
visit
on
thursday.
It's
currently
unpaved
at
this
point
on
on
the
upcoming
work
document
that
we
received
from
the
applicant.
F
It's
it
says,
report
the
front
driveway
and,
and
things
like
that,
can
we
recommend
that
they
be
they
they
go
back
to
what
the
original
make
and
color
and
such
of
that
of
the
driveways,
or
we
don't
really
have
any
description
of
what's
actually
going
to
go
in
at
this
point,.
B
Understand
what
I'd
suggest
remember
rosa
now
is
that
when
we
come
to
public
testimony,
if
perhaps
we
can
pose
that
question
to
mr
hadawi,
he
can
clarify
what
the
owner's
intent
is
for
the
reporting
of
that
driveway
and
whether
there's
intent
to
do
it
as
a
exposed,
aggregate
or
pigmented
or
any
other
type
of
characteristic.
So,
let's,
let's
say
that
question
to
ask
mr
hadawi
or
mark
if
you
can
expand
that
when
we
get
to
the
public
hearing
portion
of
it,
that
would
be
great.
A
Are
there
any
other
questions
to
mr
lyon?
A
I
I
do
have
a
question,
mr
lyon,
so
I
remember
there
was
a
waterfall
at
the
northwest
edge
of
the
swimming
pool
of
a
vertical
waterfall
that
flowed
down
that
wall.
This
was
behind
the
cantilevered
stairs.
A
B
E
B
B
B
You
know,
I
would
say
in
terms
of
their
being
motorized,
operable
glass
panels
and
partitions
in
various
larger
commercial
buildings.
It
was
probably
something
that
was
not
necessarily
innovative
for
its
time,
but
certainly
the
the
glass
retractable
window.
That's.
There
was
obviously
custom
designed
for
this
particular
site,
so
I
think
you'll
find
that
there
have
been
various
types
of
motorized
partitions,
both
glass
and
opaque
materials
over
time,
so
they're,
not
necessarily
something
that
was
one
of
a
kind
or
unique
to
this
particular
site.
A
Okay,
I
will
open
the
public
hearing
and
invite
the
applicant
to
to
speak.
So
whoever
would
like
to
go
first,
please
state
your
name
and
address
and
and
tell
us
what
you
would
like
to
about
the
project
who's
going
to
go.
First,.
A
G
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
B
F
G
G
Okay,
everyone
can
see
my
screen.
Yes,
okay,
great
well
good
evening
board
members,
my
name
is
olivia
white,
I'm
an
associate
at
shadow
inc,
historic
preservation,
consultants
in
los
angeles
and
on
behalf
of
the
property
owner.
We
are
pleased
to
have
nominated
the
elrod
residence
located
at
2175,
south
ridge
drive
as
a
class
1
historic
site.
This
presentation
is
a
summary
of
the
information
contained
in
our
application,
as
well
as
in
the
staff
report.
G
The
outro
residence
is
eligible
under
three
of
the
city's
criteria
under
criterion
two.
We
believe
it
is
eligible
for
its
association
with
arthur
elrod,
who
was
an
important
mid-century
interior
designer
in
the
city
under
criterion
4
for
embodying
organic
architecture,
with
brutalist
influences
and
under
criterion
5
as
a
notable
and
significant
work
of
master
architect,
john
lotner,
now
in
many
of
these
slides,
I've
included
photos
from
just
after
the
house
was
constructed
in
1968,
as
well
as
photos
from
june
of
2020.
G
To
give
you
a
side-by-side
comparison,
as
you
can
see
in
these
images,
originally
the
slate
herringbone
pattern
tile
that
is
present
on
the
interior
of
the
house
continued
to
the
exterior
in
june.
There
was
a
seated
aggregate,
concrete
pathway
and,
as
you
know,
there's
work
being
done
in
this
location.
Now
that
mark
can
speak
more
to
later
on,
the
property
was
listed
in
the
national
register
of
historic
places
in
2016
as
part
of
a
multiple
property
submission
for
residential
architecture
of
john
lotner
in
southern
california,
from
1940
to
1994..
G
Now
in
this
1968
photo,
you
can
see
that
over
the
pool
area,
it's
hard
to
see
the
skylights
in
this
area,
but
where
there
are
now
glass
skylights
over
the
pool,
they
were
originally
open
to
the
sky,
which
allowed
rain
to
fall
into
the
pool
the
pool
was
recently
restored
and
originally,
as
catherine
described,
water
could
flow
over
over
from
the
pool
over
the
steps
and
into
a
catch
basin,
which
the
pool
is
also
is
going
to
be
able
to
do
now
that
it's
been
restored.
G
So
this
is
an
aerial
of
the
property.
It's
the
first
house
on
the
second
parcel
on
the
north
side
of
south
ridge
drive
just
after
the
gatehouse.
The
nomination
includes
the
1968
main
house
and
a
1970
guest
suite
and
carport,
all
of
which
were
designed
by
lautner.
G
G
G
G
The
elrod
house
is
one
of
his
best
known
works
along
with
other
residences
in
southern
california,
which
includes
silver
top
hemisphere,
the
sheets
goldstein
residents
and
the
bob
and
dolores
hope,
residents
and
here
on
this
site
plan.
You
can
see
this
dashed
line
shows
the
the
roof
overhang,
and
this
is
what
would
eventually
become,
which
would
the
retractable
glass
wall
follows
the
shape
of
the
roof
outline.
G
His
firm
had
a
prolific
practice
in
the
city
and
designed
interiors
of
houses,
ranging
from
celebrity
client
homes
like
lucille,
ball
and
desi
arnaz
to
model
homes
through
his
firm's
work
for
designing
the
interior
of
model
homes
for
new
developments,
he
helped
people
moving
to
palm
springs
envision.
What
their
new
desert
lifestyle
could
be
like
elrod
helped
define
the
look
of
mid-century
residential
interiors
in
the
city,
as
the
city
was
growing,
he
was
known
for
his
use
of
bright
colors,
interesting
textures
and
incorporating
antique
pieces
with
more
modern
furniture
and
finishes
at
the
house.
G
The
elrod
house
is
a
as
a
sort
of
structure.
It's
a
sculptural
structure
in
its
own
right
and
a
piece
of
art
and
here
for
the
house.
Elrod
designed
custom
furniture
for
the
house,
including
curved
couches,
to
follow
the
shape
of
the
living
room
and
use
bright
colors,
including
reds,
yellows
and
oranges,
and
he
incorporated
a
lot
of
art,
including
a
commissioned.
A
painting
by
paul
jenkins,
which
was
in
the
living
room
originally
and
a
mobile
over
the
couch,
which
was
designed
by
mimi
corzano.
G
The
principles
of
organic
architecture
is
the
merging
of
buildings
with
nature
buildings
that
exemplify
these
principles
are
designed
to
be
integrated
into
their
sites
and
employ
natural
shapes
and
complex
geometries.
The
elrod
residences
siding
on
the
hillside,
the
incorporation
of
the
rock
croppings,
its
shallow
form
and
low
slung
design
make
the
house
appear
as
though
it
grows
out
of
its
surroundings.
G
The
house
has
seen
some
alterations
since
its
construction,
some
of
which
I've
already
described
to
you
in
1970,
the
mitered
glass
in
the
living
room
was
removed
for
the
filming
of
diamonds
that
are
forever
once
it
was
put
back.
It
was
blown
out
in
a
windstorm
in
1971.
G
to
replace
it.
Lautner
does
design
the
current
curved
retractable
glass
wall
in
a
steel
frame
that
crosses
over
the
pool.
In
order
to
do
this,
one
of
the
cur
one
of
the
flared
piers
at
the
pool
had
to
be
cut
off
and
became
rectangular
in
1970,
arthur
elrod
purchased
the
adjacent
lot
and
asked
lautner
to
design
a
guest
suite
and
carport
for
him.
G
Despite
the
alterations
the
house
has
seen,
we
do
believe
it
retains
integrity
because
it
continues
to
retain
the
key
characteristics
that
make
the
house
what
it
is,
including
its
exposed
curved
board
form
concrete
walls,
incorporation
of
rock
outcroppings
frameless
grub
glass
that
is
set
into
the
rocks,
its
conical
roof
structure
with
clear
stories
and
the
original
configuration
and
layout
of
spaces
of
the
house
remains
the
same.
A
Thank
you
miss
white,
for
your
excellent
presentation.
That
was
excellent.
We
really
appreciate
that
is
there
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
in
this
public
hearing
at
this
time
is
there
anyone
else.
D
H
Hi
everybody
I'm
gary
johns,
I'm
representing
the
palm
springs
preservation
foundation
this
evening
and
nell
delinsk,
a
close
personal
friend
of
arthur
l
rods
was
going
to
zoom
with
us
this
afternoon,
but
she
got
zoomed
away
somewhere
else,
but
she
has
authorized
me
to
share
some
of
her
feelings
and
reminisces
with
the
board
this
evening,
primarily
both
the
preservation
foundation
and
nelda
linz
100
support
the
nomination
and
the
designation
and
the
recognition
it
so
deserves
of
the
arthur
elrod
house
for
all
the
reasons
that
the
excellent
report
states.
H
What
is
missing
in
the
report,
at
least
in
the
in
the
amount
of
pages
that
I
could
get
through,
and
there
was
quite
a
voluminous
report.
You
all
know,
is
some
of
the
some
of
the
heart
and
some
of
the
soul
of
arthur
elrod's
living
in
the
house,
and
a
lot
of
that
is
really
tied
to
the
greenhouse
nelda
tells
can
reminisce
about,
and
she
really
did
want
to
share
this
with
you
tonight
that
she'd
been
to
the
house
many
times.
H
She
was
involved
with
good
friends
with
arthur
when
he
used
to
carry
the
plans
for
the
house
around
with
him.
Under
his
arm
and
show
anyone
who
is
interested,
the
greenhouse
is
an
important
part
of
arthur's
life
there
at
the
house,
the
greenhouse
came
about
because
there
was
a
rivalry
between
arthur
and
joe
lindsey
nelda's
husband
and
they
had
arthur.
Excuse
me,
joe,
had
a
green
house
at
the
house
in
las
palmas
and
when
arthur
moved
from
las
palmas
to
southridge,
he
wanted
a
greenhouse
too.
So
he
had
the
greenhouse
built.
H
It
is
well
designed
if
you
look
at
the
photos,
it's
not
a
redwood
lath
greenhouse.
It
was
well
constructed
built
into
the
into
the
site.
With
a
concrete
foundation.
There
is
relics
of
that
little
blue
one-inch
tile
all
throughout
the
floor
of
the
greenhouse
and
even
the
potting
beds,
are
clad
in
blue
tile.
It
was
an
important
little
greenhouse
though
it
may
not
have
been
designed
by
lochner.
H
As
many
of
the
associ
of
the
events
associated
with
the
elrod
house,
the
glamorous
parties
dinner
parties
cocktail
parties,
all
of
it,
the
filming
of
a
movie
in
the
house.
It
was
the
green
house
far
from
the
house
that
arthur
could
retreat
to
on
a
daily
basis
and
he
potted
there.
He
played
classical
music
for
his
orchids
and
had
a
toothbrush
nelda
will
tell
you
the
story
of
how
he
cleaned
the
orchids
and
cared
for
the
orcas.
It
was
a
very
personal
part
of
arthur's
life
there
at
the
house.
H
So
again
we
just
really
support
the
nomination
wholeheartedly
and
if
the
board
with
mr
hadawi
and
the
group
can
somehow
see
to
include
even
if
it's
just
the
relics
of
the
greenhouse
now
in
the
nomination,
we
fully
support
the
greenhouse
being
included
in
the
nomination.
D
Madam
chair,
I
stand
corrected.
Mr
hedman
would
like
to
speak
under
item
2b
and
not
2a,
so
we'll
bring
him
back
in
for
public
comment
on
that
item.
I
don't
think
that
there's
anyone
else
who
has
registered
to
speak
on
this
item.
A
C
Actually,
before
you
open
it
up
to
the
board
to
speak,
I
would
just
like
to
say
in
the
interest
of
full
disclosure
that.
C
I
did
contact
the
homeowner's
representative
on
my
own
and
initiated
an
email
conversation
about
the
greenhouse
and
because
I
had
questions
because
I
had
seen
it
in
the
photos
originally
and
then
during
a
site
visit,
it
was
gone,
so
I
really
wanted
to
know
what
was
there
and
why
it
was
demolished.
C
I
didn't
really
get
a
definitive
answer
to
why
it
was
demolished,
but
I
wanted
to
disclose
that
so
that
everyone
is
aware.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
I
I
will
proceed,
we
will
have
questions
to
the
applicant,
but
at
this
time
I
would
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
ask
for
questions
from
the
board
for
the
applicant.
So
are
there
any
questions
for
miss
white
about
anything
questions?
I
actually
have
one
so
back
to
that
waterfall
waterfall
edge.
You
know
that
northwest.
I
did
see
it
in
one
of
the
pictures
that
you
showed-
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
is:
is
that
going
to
be
operating?
Is
that
something
that
will
be
a
functional.
G
Misses
yes,
based
on
my
understanding,
it
is,
and
mark
can
describe
further
if
you
want
more
detail
on
it.
But
it's
shown
in
the
plans
that
I
recently
saw
to
restore
the
waterfall
and
the
catchphrase
and
below
okay.
A
So
so
then,
my
question
is
shouldn't
that
be
listed
as
a
defining
characteristic.
Mr
lyon,
do
you
would
that
be
appropriate
to
have
listed.
B
It
can
be
yes,
it's
not
a
feature
that
I
was
aware
of,
but
I
think
that
it
can
be
in.
It
sounds
like
from
what
olivia's
saying
and
mark
you
can
probably
confirm
this,
that
this
waterfall
feature
that
catherine
is
talking
about
is
something
that
is
going
to
be
reinstated
at
the
site.
I
Okay,
did
you
want
me
to
talk
now?
Yes,
yes,
okay,
so
it's
not
exactly
a
waterfall,
it's
a
it's
a
spillway
and
in
olivia's
picture
it
shows
someone.
You
can
actually
see
that
some
in
the
original
picture
from
1968,
you
can
see
that
some
of
the
vertical
concrete
is
wet
and
other
concrete
is
not
wet.
So
it's
not
meant
to
continuously
pump
water
over
the
edge,
which
would
be
more
of
a
water
feature.
I
It's
a
spillway,
which
means
if
you
go
right,
the
way
it's
when
we
started
the
restoration
of
the
house
which
has
been
you
know
already
over
three
years
now
in
a
very
complicated
and
extensive
sorting
out
of
what
happened
to
the
house
over
time,
the
spillway
had
been
had
been
taken
away
and
there
was
just
a
concrete
coping
around
that
edge
to
the
view
side
of
the
pool.
I
The
way
it's
originally
designed
is
that
that
tiled
edge
is
on
an
angle
and
the
water
line
is
about
half
an
inch
from
spilling
over.
So
at
the
point
someone
were
to
go
into
the
pool
and
move
the
water
around.
The
water
would
get
pushed
over
the
edge
and
land
in
the
catch
basin
below
that's
the
way
it
was
originally
designed
and
that's
the
way
it
is
again
today
the
pool's
been
put
back
together.
It
now
has
water
in
it
and
it's
fully
functional.
I
I
As
I
said
the
house,
the
house,
even
the
house,
changed
quite
a
bit
in
arthur
elrod's
tenure
there.
I
think
he
used
it
much
as
a
sort
of
laboratory
for
his
work.
If
you
will,
you
know
the
bathroom
at
one
point
was
tiled
later
the
bathroom
was
carpeted,
and
so
he
you
know
he
changed
things
in
the
house
quite
a
bit
as
he
was
there.
He
you
know
they.
They
had
the
idea
to
change
the
windows
to
operable
windows.
I
I
think,
which
largely
came
from
the
scene
in
diamonds
are
forever
where
sean
connery
is
thrown
into
the
pool.
I
I
think
that
that
essentially
sparked
a
dialogue
between
elrod
and
lautner,
since
lautner's
goal
was
always
to
obscure
and
create
the
illusion
between
inside
and
outside
that,
the
ultimate
illusion
between
inside
and
outside
was
that
there
was
no
glass
or
any
partition
between
the
inside
and
the
outside.
I
So
when
that
they
removed
the
glass
to
film
that
scene
of
diamonds
or
forever,
and
I
think
that
that
sort
of
planted
the
seed
to
create
those
operable
walls
so
when
open
there
actually
is
no
partition
between
the
inside
and
the
outside,
the
the
composition
of
the
slate
that
is
in
the
entryway
you
can
see
in
the
picture.
Olivia
showed
that
was
at
one
point
slate.
The
entire
driveway
was
slate.
I
I
think
that
they
realized
that
that
didn't
function
with
cars
in
the
rain,
it
would
have
been
very
slippery
and
they
later
changed
that
to
a
seated
aggregate,
which
was
then
later.
You
know
long
after
arthur
elrod's
tenure
there
painted
black.
I
So
the
intention
for
the
final
composition
of
the
entry,
meaning
the
driveway
and
the
entry
to
the
house,
is
that
from
the
pedestrian
gate
inwards
into
the
house,
would
all
be
herringbone
slate
passing
through
to
the
house
and
that
the
driveway
down
the
drive
and
into
the
carport
would
be
seated
black
aggregate.
I
I
can
speak
to
the
to
the
greenhouse,
so
that
you
know
I-
and
I
understand
you-
know
the
position
that
the
greenhouse
was
an
important
part
of
arthur
elrod's
tenure
in
the
house,
and
you
know
reflected
his
interest
in
planting
there's,
also
a
seed
room
underneath
the
master
bedroom
which
had
bins
for
seeds-
and
you
know
also
speaks
to
his.
You
know
personal
interest
for
for
planting
the
the
the
I
think
ultimately
for
the
client,
the
greenhouse.
I
Affected,
you
know
the
composition
of
the
carport
in
in
a
negative
way,
lautner
designed
the
carport
to
be
a
freestanding
structure,
with
a
floating
roof
of
concrete,
the
way
that
the
greenhouse
was
attached
to
the
carport
it
it
took
away
from
that
floating
concrete
roof
because
it
created
one
whole
massing.
At
that
side,
the
greenhouse
was
sort
of
partially
subterranean
and
partially
above
the
ground,
so
the
angled
roof
sort
of
was
attached
to
the
to
the
edge
of
the
cardboard
and
built
down.
I
I
think
that
there
are
pictures
of
what
it
looked
like
beforehand.
It
was
actually
it
was
also
you
know,
while
still
standing
in
poor,
very
poor
condition.
So
it's
the
it's
the
owner's
desire
to
not
rebuild
the
greenhouse
and
that
he
doesn't
have
a
hobby.
You
know,
doesn't
have
the
hobby
of
planting
and
wouldn't
wouldn't
end
up
using
it.
C
Yeah,
I
guess
this
could
be
directed
toward
mr
hadawi
or
miss
white.
I
Yes,
those
are
going
to
be
put
back.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
when
we
got
to
the
house,
there
was
a.
There
was
a
period
in
about
1980
when
the
house
was
very
difficult
to
sell
and
they
made
some
attempts
to.
It's
actually
really
interesting
to
see.
I
I
spent
days
at
the
archive
at
the
getty
going
through
all
the
lautner
files,
and
most
of
the
information
in
the
archive
exists
in
the
form
of
photographs,
but
there's
a
sotheby's
about
a
five-page
sotheby's
brochure
from
1980
listing
the
house
for
somewhere
just
over
10
million
dollars
in
1980
and
and
they
they
had
made
an
attempt
to
sort
of
make
it
feel
like
a
18th
century
castle.
They
cut
a
huge
circular
section
in
all
the
photos.
I
You
see
a
you
see
a
edward
fields,
custom
carpet
which
we've
recreated
circular
carpet
in
the
living
room
which
the
sofa
is
around.
They
cut
in
that
same
volume
of
carpet.
I
They
cut
the
herringbone
floor
out
and
inset
a
parquet
wood
floor
there
and
that
that
existed
when,
when
my
client
bought
the
house,
so
we
removed
that
and
infilled
matched
the
herringbone
slate
and
filled
that
all
and
then
the
intention
is
and
that
same
slate
that
we
matched
to
that
circular
cutout
is
to
bring
that
herringbone
all
the
way
out
to
the
pedestrian
gate
and
then
transition
from
that
point.
In
the
driveway
to
a
seated
black
aggregate.
C
Great,
thank
you.
Two
more
questions.
Yeah
miss
white
mentioned
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
catch
basin
under
the
stairs
at
the
edge
of
the
pool,
and
I
know
when
we
were
there
during
the
fight
visit
staff.
Member
lyon
commented
that
it
appeared
to
be
somewhat
dangerous,
that
that
water
would
spill
over
and
get
on
those
stairs.
C
So
if
you
know
people
using
the
pool
and
then
the
stairs
got
wet
and
people
going
up
and
down
the
stairs,
I'm
just
curious
where
that
catch
basin
is
because
we
didn't
see
it
when
we
were
there,
maybe
it's
being
reconstructed
and
it's
not
there
yet.
Can
you
stick
to
that
at
all.
I
Yes,
so
the
catch
basin
is
a
is
what
I
would
call
an
informal
catch
base
and
there
were
it's
another
example
of
just
so
many
things
that
had
changed
so
that
entire
wall
that
you
see
that's
the
leading
edge
of
the
pool
and
the
stairs.
That's
all
been
re-engineered
and
reported.
The
stale
stairs
had
failed
partially
because
of
the
water
spilling
on
them.
I
Now
that
it's
been
rebuilt
with
epoxy
rebar,
so
the
rebar
won't
rust
to
cause
those
stairs
to
break
again,
but
there
there
was
at
the
time,
not
in
lautner's
original
design,
but
some
point.
In
the
house's
life
there
was
a
ramp
poor
added
underneath
the
stairs
to
direct
the
water
from
that
sort
of
rocky
area
under
the
stairs
to
a
sort
of
makeshift
catch
basin.
There
was
also
a
sculpture
that
was
on
that
wall.
I
With
you
know,
some
sort
of
later
water
feature
added.
That
sculpture
was
something
arthur
elrod
installed
and
during
the
time
of
foreclosure
on
the
house
lloyds
of
london
removed
that
sculpture
and
sold
it
to
someone.
We
don't
know
the
idea,
there's
no
call
out
for
a
formal
catch
basin
in
lautner's
design
and
because
the
water
that's
spilling
over
is
minimal.
The
idea
is
to
plant
that
area
and
use
rocks
to
create
sort
of
an
informal
catch
basin.
I
So,
yes,
the
stairs
will
get
wet
and
there'll
be
some
ancillary
water
that
comes
over
when
the
pool
is
being
used.
But
when
the
pool
is
idle,
the
idea
is
that
the
it's
an
early,
it's
really
an
early
version
of
a
you
know.
I
Lautner
did
it
at
at
at
silvertop
earlier,
and
he
did
it
here
again
to
kind
of
create
this
illusion
of
an
infinity
edge,
and
so
the
way
that
this
has
all
been
set
up
is
that
the
water
is
at
idle
just
one
half
of
an
inch
below
the
spilling
point
of
the
pool,
so
it
it
appears
that
it's
you
know
it's
just
falling
over
the
edge.
C
All
right,
thank
you
and
my
last
question
briefly.
Well
there
ever
any
discussion
between
the
owner
and
the
restoration
team
about
bringing
back
the
living
roof,
and
why
was
the
decision
made
not
to
bring
it
back.
I
I
It
probably
was
not
a
there
really
is
only
that
one
image
that
I've
ever
been
able
to
find.
So
my
guess
is
that
it
wasn't
a
practical,
long-term
solution
for
the
roof
and
and
and
so
yeah.
No,
there
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
and
the
owners
committed
very
committed
to
going
the
distance
with
the
house
to
do
the
right
thing,
and
you
know
there
was
even
discussions.
I
You
know
it's
a
little
bit
of
a
complicated
conversation,
as
these
things
are
because
so
much
of
the
house
changed
after
the
time
in
which
the
glass
was
changed,
meaning
the
entire
guest
house
was
built
and
the
circulation
changed
quite
a
bit,
but
we
we
did
mock
up
the
old
glass
fenestration
in
large
plexi
panels,
exactly
as
it
was,
and
you
know
just
explored
that
possibility,
which
you
know
we
both
in
the
end
agreed,
wasn't
the
way
to
go.
I
But
you
know
that
gives
at
least
you
some
sense
of
the
you
know
the
discussions
and
the
and
the
painstaking
nature
of
the
restoration
of
the
house.
A
Okay.
Well,
let's
move
on
to
discuss
amongst
the
board
any
other
merits
or
comments
that
you
would
like
to
make
any
any
further
discussion
rose
now.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
just
I'm
really
in
support
of
this.
I
I
really
liked
the
the
the
detail
of
this
nomination.
It
brought
together
both
elrod
and
laudner
and
their
relationship.
I
was
especially
going
through
all
the
deeds
and
whatnot
coming
across
the
inventory
of
the
house
at
the
time
of
elrod's
passing
that
you
know
listed
what
furniture
was
where
the
number
of
cocktail
glasses
the
titles
of
books.
I
found
that
very
fascinating,
so
very
good
job
in
putting
this
together
and
yes,
I
will
support
this
domination.
Thank
you.
E
Mrs
dixon
and
I
agree
with
eric.
Unfortunately,
I
didn't
get
to
see
the
house
and
it's
my
loss,
but
I
think
it's
a
great
report.
I
think
the
pictures
spoke
volumes
of
what's
going
on
there
past
and
current,
and
I'm
excited
that
this
is
before
us
and
that
we're
moving
ahead
with
it.
A
Other
comments,
mr
kaiser.
D
C
Mr
nelson
great
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
the
greenhouse,
because
I
think
it's
a
really
critical
issue,
that's
not
being
given
enough
attention
by
the
historical
preservation
board.
This
was
part
of
an
addition
in
1970
that
was
overseen
by
lochner
and
well.
They
don't
have
definitive
proof
that
he
designed
the
greenhouse.
C
There
was
a
subterranean
structure
in
the
greenhouse
that
was
tied
into
the
cardboard
walls.
I've
seen
the
photos
and
there
were
there
was
plumbing
that
came
out
from
under
the
ground
and
clearly
this
was
something
that
elvard
asked
for.
C
There's
no
secret
among
those
in
the
know,
in
the
preservation
community
that
he
had
a
great
love
of
plants
and
flowers
and
in
fact,
in
his
studio
on
north
palm
canyon,
drive
vintage
historical
photos
show
in
the
shop
in
advertisements
and
other
photos
that
there
were
many
many
plants,
including
workers,
hanging
plants,
lots
of
greenery
such
was
the
thing
in
the
late
60s
early
70s.
It
was
a
huge
integral
part
of
interior
design
and
certainly
a
hallmark
of
his
style.
C
Now
you
know
people
like
gary
jones
and
elder
link,
and
so
many
others
are
names
that
are
very
well
known,
important
friends
and
I
just
find
it
a
little
disappointing
that
we
come
this
far
and
nobody
at
the
foresight
to
reach
out
and
do
a
little
more
investigative
work.
That's
not
to
you
know,
hamper
or
you
know
say
that
any
of
the
work
that
they've
done
is
not
up
to
par.
C
It's
been
excellent,
of
course,
but
these
little
details
make
up
the
soul
of
the
home,
and
although
it
was
very
important
I
mean
the
period
of
significance
is
really
all
about
him
as
the
one
who
commissioned
the
house,
the
one
who
lived
in
it
and
one
who
threw
parties
there
and
made
it
known
to
the
world
and
of
course,
latin
was
important
as
well,
and
I
think
lautner
also
celebrated
that
love
of
organic
composition
and
the
owners
of
plants
and
greenery.
C
So
you
know
in
the
report,
it
shows
in
attachment
a
on
page
16,
an
image
of
the
glass
structure
of
the
greenhouse
and
mark
made
the
comment
earlier
that
by
leaving
it
there
would
have
demeaned
the
floating
composition
of
the
roof
of
the
carport.
C
But
I
disagree
with
that
because,
if
you're
standing
at
the
pool
or
inside
the
house
and
you're
looking
out,
you
see
the
roof
of
that
carport
and
the
greenhouse
top
of
the
greenhouse
is
underneath
the
roof
edge.
A
Mrs
dixon
may
I.
E
B
Well,
as
I
had
mentioned
earlier,
I
am
not
privy
or
or
knowledgeable
about
the
entire
scope
of
the
restoration
project
that
would
have
gone
through
the
building
department.
So
I
don't
know
the
story
behind
the
removal
of
the
greenhouse
mark.
You
might
be
able
to
shed
a
little
more
light
on
it,
but
I
I
don't
know
the
full
scope
of
what
was
in
the
restoration
project
building
permit
plans.
B
F
C
From
that
the
class
excuse
me,
the
house
is
a
class
3
site
and
for
that
very
reason
I
would
think
it
would
have
triggered
a
staff
review
of
the
proposed
demolition
of
the
greenhouse
and
I'm
just
curious
why
it
didn't.
I
B
And
I
think
that
jade
and
linda
to
kind
of
clarify,
if
you
look
at
the
timing
of
the
new
ordinance,
the
project
as
mark
characterizes
that
apparently
started
three
years
ago,
preceded
the
current
historic
preservation
ordinance,
and
at
that
time
the
house
would
not
have
had
any
particular
standing.
I
I
believe-
and
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
2004
citywide
survey.
It
may
have
been
listed
in
the
2004
survey
that
was
done,
but
that
would
not
necessarily
grant
it
any
kind
of
procedural
oversight.
I
It's
also
just
kind
of
interesting
if
there's
so
much
concern
with
the
house
why'd,
the
city
not
propose
its
landmark
status.
Much
earlier.
F
B
Well,
I
think
well,
when
the
board,
when
this
particular
board
goes
through
its
annual
work
plan,
they
do
various
parts
of
their
work
plan,
which
includes
community
outreach
and
education,
and
they
often
will
put
together
a
short
list
of
projects
that
they
would
like
to
work
on
to
consider
possible,
making
a
possible
recommendation
for
class
1
status
to
the
city
council
each
year.
B
That
list
gets
vetted
and
the
board,
you
know,
looks
at
a
a
whole
city,
full
of
pretty
remarkable
architecture
and
they
make
their
own
decisions
as
to
why
they
prioritize
things.
They
they
do,
and
this
particular
one
just
didn't
make
it
onto
the
priority.
I
And
you
know,
I
I
think
that
the
city,
if
I
remember
correctly,
brought
forth
mcqueen
right
when
we
did.
That
was
not
the
client
right.
A
Is
there
any
other
discussion
amongst
the
board
any
other?
Well,
I
do
want
to
express
that
I'm
absolutely
delighted.
I
also
agree.
This
is
the
greatest
house
in
palm
springs
and
I'm
so
delighted
about
its
restoration
and
the
conservation
and
the
sensitivity,
and
I'm
just
so
very
pleased
and
and
thank
the
owner
and
and
you
designers,
great
job
in
preserving
this
great
legacy
for
the
city
of
palm
springs.
A
C
I
will
make
the
recommendation
that
the
city,
the
city
of
palm
beach,
historic
site
preservation,
board,
request
class,
one
landmark
historic
site
designation
of
the
author
el
rodriguez,
to
be
a
designated
site
by
the
city
council
located
at
2175
southwest
drive,
hsb
case
number
64.
B
Would
the
maker
of
the
motion
clarify?
Are
you
basing
your
motion
on
the
findings
that
were
outlined
in
the
historic
resources
survey
and
the
staff
report.
C
Sure
I
would
like
to
amend
my
motion
to
include
what
mr
lyon
just
stated.
A
Okay,
so
you
accept
the
report
and
may
I
have
a
second.
A
Okay
and
the
motion
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
mr
nelson
and
a
second
by
mrs
dixon.
So
is
there
additional
discussion
that
needs
to
take
place
before
we
vote?
Any
other
wonderful
comments.
A
C
And
I
will
echo
that
and
also
say
a
huge
thank
you
to
maya,
olivia
everyone
who's
working
on
the
house.
It
really
is
spectacular,
I
mean
you
can't
get
it
all.
I
know,
but
you
know
that's
what
we're
here
for
and
what
you're
doing
is
so
beautiful
and
so
admirable,
and
this
house
is
finally
going
to
be
the
gem
that
mr
ellard
always
envisioned
and
they're
so
nice
to
bring
brought
back.
So
thank
you
all
for
that.
A
Okay,
so
all
in
favor
raise
your
hand
bye,
all
right.
Okay,
any
opposed.
So
the
delighted
that
the
motion
passes
four
to
four.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
excellent
participation
in
this
so
onward.
Now
we're
going
to
on
the
agenda
2b,
that's
the
historic
site
preservation
board
to
consider
possible
class
2
historic
merit,
historic
site,
designation
of
the
palm
springs,
racket
club,
a
class
3
historic
site
located
at
2743,
north
indian
canyon,
drive
in
palm
springs.
B
Yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Before
I
begin
my
staff
report,
I
want
to
simply
report
for
the
record
that
there
have
been
public
comment.
Letters
received
on
this
particular
item
that
have
been
forwarded
to
the
board
members
and
there
was
a
written
public
comment
letter
provided
to
the
board
by
the
property
owner.
B
B
That
recommendation
was
based
on
the
2004
ash
group,
historic
resources
report,
the
property
owners
had
the
property
listed
for
sale
and
at
that
time,
had
requested
that
the
city
defer
or
postpone
the
carrying
forward
of
the
hsbb
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
and
so
we
did
so
because
the
length
of
the
time
since
the
ash
report
has
been
written
2004
until
today,
the
city
initiated
an
updated
study
which
was
commissioned
by
historic
resources.
Group
out
of
that
report
is
the
basis
of
my
staff
report
and
of
the
analysis.
B
That's
part
of
the
discussion
today
in
looking
at
the
report.
Excuse
me:
the
report
finds
that
the
racket
club
possesses
historic
significance.
However,
it
lacks
historic
integrity
in
terms
of
it
being
qualified
as
a
class
one
historic
site,
and
rather
the
report
notes
that
it
is
more
appropriately
considered
potentially
eligible
as
a
class
2
historic
site
in
your
staff
report
on
page
2
is
an
overview
map
of
the
racket
club,
and
you
can
see
the
structures
that
are
still
surviving
on
the
site.
B
Oh,
I
love
this
dog
who's
got
the
dog,
oh
number,
dixon.
I
love
that
sorry.
We
have
a
new
member
of
the
board,
so
on
page
four
through
five
and
six
is
the
analysis
of
the
project
based
on
the
criteria
in
the
city's
historic
preservation
ordinance,
and
some
of
these
have
varied
from
those
of
you
who
have
been
on
the
board
in
the
past,
where
this
project
was
evaluated.
B
So
the
report
is
identified
as
being
the
racket
club
is
significant
because
of
its
association
with
charlie
farrell.
Charlie
farrell
was
both
a
well-known
actor
from
the
20s
and
30s
and
40s
also
served
as
palm
springs
mayor
for
a
period
of
time
and
was
the
founder
along
with
ralph
bellamy
of
the
racket
club
in
1934.
B
The
report
goes
on
to
analyze
the
racket
club
in
terms
of
events
and,
while
the
previous
reports
had
noted
that
there
had
been
many
tennis,
tournaments
and
other
types
of
things
that
really
helped
promote
palm
springs
around
the
country.
This
report
noted
that
these
these
events
and
tournaments
were
not
uncommon
to
other
tournaments
and
events
that
were
happening
in
palm
springs
and
as
such,
they
were
not
the
primary
reason
for
the
club
achieving
significance.
So
the
report
does
not
find
eligible
under
events
criterion,
two
associated
with
persons
of
significance.
B
Of
course,
we
just
mentioned
charlie
farrell
criteria.
Three
is
the
representative.
It's
a
representative
example
of
commercial
recreational
development
in
palm
springs
during
its
golden
era
of
period
between
the
two
world
wars.
B
As
noted
on
page
six
of
your
staff
report,
the
racquet
club
began
as
nothing
more
than
a
small
tennis
club,
which
began
to
expand
as
more
of
pharaoh
and
bellamy's
friends
joined
it.
It
wasn't
until
the
1940s
when
the
club
was
actually
expanded
and
the
guest
cottages
were
added.
B
C
B
Historic
district
here
in
the
city
report
notes
also
that
the
racket
club
continued
its
significance
through
the
post-world
war
ii
period
and
our
our
report
from
hrg
identifies
the
period
of
significance
from
1934
until
1969
when
most
of
the
latter
period
of
major
capital
improvements
were
occurring.
B
During
that
time
period
he
did
reside
at
the
club
in
what
we
now
refer
to
as
the
feral
residence
when
he
sold
the
home
and
sold
the
club
in
1959,
he
moved
to
the
other
structure,
that's
also
a
class
one
site
in
the
city,
that
is
a
federal
residence
looking
at
the
condition
of
the
I'm
sorry,
not
the
condition
but
the
architecture
of
the
project.
B
The
report
notes
that
there
have
been
substantial
alterations
and
modifications,
as
well
as
deterioration
to
the
buildings
at
the
racquet
club,
and
it
also
addresses
the
question
next
in
terms
of
its
association
with
albert
frey.
We
know
from
the
historic
resources
report
that
albert
frey
was
credited
with
the
design
of
the
the
bungalows.
B
Originally,
I
understand
there
were
15
bungalows
and
the
current
condition.
There
are
seven
bungalows
surviving
and
the
schiff
house,
the
shift
house
started
life
also
as
one
of
the
fray
design,
bungalows
frey
came
back
in
1961
and
designed
the
addition
that
is
projecting
off
the
north
side
or
the
front
of
the
house
that
creates
the
sort
of
whimsical
pool
enclosure
with
the
very
large
round
skylights
that
makes
the
roof
look
like
swiss
cheese.
B
So
in
looking
at
the
report
and
looking
at
the
buildings
and
phrase
legacy
of
architecture,
the
hrg
made
the
conclusion
that
these
structures,
although
they
were
designed
and
credited
to
the
to
architect
albert
frey,
do
not
represent
his
cutting
edge
development
in
desert,
modern
architecture
that
he's
so
well
known
for
that
these
were
really
rather
conventional
structures
at
the
time
and
really
don't
reflect
the
the
design
theories
and
concepts
that
he
was
developing
over
his
career.
B
The
report
also
notes
that
these
bungalows
appear
to
have
started
life
with
a
board
in
baton
and
cedar,
shake
roof
exterior
and,
of
course,
there
was
a
site
visit
by
the
board
members,
also
in
the
last
week
of
september,
on
this
site,
and
you
did
note
that
the
exteriors
of
the
seven
surviving
bungalows
in
the
shift
house
has
now
been
converted
to
stucco
with
cementitious
flat
tile
roofs
beginning
on
page.
B
Eight
of
your
staff
report
is
the
analysis
of
integrity
and
the
analysis
of
integrity
on
this
site
is
an
important
one
and
it's
part
of
what
has
differentiated
this
particular
recommendation
of
the
report
in
my
staff
report
from
class
one
to
what
is
currently
being
recommended
as
a
potential
as
class
two
and
the
distinction
again
between
class
one
and
class.
B
Two
are
the
characteristics
of
integrity
when
there's
a
site
that
has
both
the
criteria,
one
or
more
of
the
criteria,
persons,
events,
architecture,
period
of
significance
and
so
on,
and
also
has
a
high
degree
of
integrity
that,
under
our
ordinance,
makes
the
site
potentially
eligible
as
a
class
one
historic
site.
But
when
the
site
has
a
deteriorated
level
of
integrity,
the
absence
of
integrity
disqualifies
the
site
from
being
a
class
one
historic
site
and,
as
you
go
through
the
staff
report,
beginning
on
page
eight
and
on
nine
and
on
to
9
10.
B
The
conclusion
that's
reached
from
the
hrg
report
is
that
the
site,
in
its
current
condition,
has
really
lost
most
aspects
of
integrity.
The
landscaping
is
gone.
Many
of
the
buildings
are
gone.
B
You
know
you're
left
with
a
few
surviving
remnants
and
while
they
collectively
convey
that
place,
which
we
know
as
the
racket
club,
which
is
a
significant
element
in
the
between
the
war
periods
for
palm
springs,
the
current
condition
of
the
site
is
such
that
the
integrity
has
really
been
compromised
and
no
longer
reflects
what
one
would
think
of
in
terms
of
eligibility
for
a
class
site.
B
On
page
10
of
your
staff
report,
we've
identified
what,
if
the
board
chooses
to
consider
this
more
further
buildings
that
would
be
eligible
quote
unquote
for
inclusion
in
in
designating
or
character
dividing
features.
It
included
the
tennis
court,
the
main
pool
the
feral
residence,
excluding
the
1985
edition,
the
shift
residence,
including
the
1961
edition,
the
seven
bungalows
and
portions
of
the
clubhouse
that
contain
the
bamboo
room.
B
I
did
not
mention
in
the
staff
report
the
bogut
lounge
in
that
listing
only
because
it
it
does
not
represent
in,
as
I
was
reviewing
it,
a
particularly
unique
interior.
It
it
sits
underneath
the
octagonal
portion
of
the
roof
with
its
interior
does
not
necessarily
have
any
distinctive
characteristics,
whereas
the
bamboo
room
still
does
have
its
very
unique
interior.
B
So
in
conclusion,
the
racquet
club
and
the
personages
associated
with
it
played
an
important
role
in
cementing
palm
springs
reputation
as
a
glamorous
recreational
destination
that
attracted
many
celebrities
associated
with
the
hollywood
movie
industry.
The
report
concludes
that,
despite
its
deteriorated
and
much
altered,
condition
the
surviving
buildings
and
features
collectively
convey
exceptional
historic
significance.
B
According
to
the
report,
the
racquet
club
is
eligible
for
class
2
historic
merit
site
designation
if
designated
the
parcels
on
which
the
contributing
buildings
and
features
would
be
eligible
for
the
application
of
a
millsack
contract.
Now
I
want
to
point
out
in
this
particular
last
sentence.
The
current
racket
club
in
its
roughly
10
acre
site
is
comprised
of
three
parcels,
and
I've
identified
two
of
the
three,
because
the
third
parcel,
which
is
the
one
toward
the
northwest,
is
the
one
that
contains
the
1969
apartment
building.
B
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
so
questions
of
the
staff
by
board
members.
So
mr
lyon,
was
there
a
request
for
postponement.
B
Yes,
I
was
going
to
mention
that
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
the
the
property
owners
did
submit
to
the
city
to
the
planning
department,
a
request
to
postpone
today's
public
hearing,
and
so
what
I
would
suggest
is
if
the
board
has
any
questions
of
me,
I
will
answer
those
questions
to
the
best
of
my
ability.
B
At
the
time
that
you
open
the
public
hearing,
I
am
going
to
guide
you
to
consider
the
owner's
request
to
postpone,
and
at
that
time
I
will
guide
you
through
how
to
process
that
request.
But
at
this
time
I'll
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
F
B
The
the
suggestion
there
is
that
the
the
building
in
which
the
portions
of
the
building
which
contain
the
bamboo
room
might
be
considered
character.
Defining
those
portions
which
include
the
kitchen
and
those
other
ancillary
functions
would
be
proposed
to
not
be
identified.
A
B
B
The
board
elects
to
move
forward
with
some
delineation
of
what
it
believes
are
character,
defining
features
of
the
site
and
if
you
agree
with
the
staff
recommendation,
that
the
1969
apartment
building
is
not
a
contributing
element,
then
that
last
parcel
that
northwest
parcel
would
not
have
any
association
with
any
kind
of
potential
historic
designation.
B
So
when
you
look
at
it
and
again
it's
this
is
all
dependent
on
how
you
choose
to
consider
this
nomination
and
make
your
recommendations.
But
if
you
make
the
recommendations,
according
to
the
recommendations
in
the
staff
report,
then
building
number
five
would
not
be
character.
Defining
and
therefore
the
parcel
on
which
it's
located
would
not
have
any
historic
significance
related
to
it.
E
C
Okay,
this
question
is
for
mr
lyon,
regarding
page
seven
of
the
stuff,
we
would
the
bottom
paragraph
it
talks
about
bishop
house
and
albert
bray,
and
my
question
has
to
do
with
the
sentence
kind
of
two
thirds
through
the
paragraph
that
the
although
past
reports
on
the
record
club
asserted
that
the
1961
ship
house
edition
were
more
reflective
of
phrase
modernist
inspired
commissions.
C
Before
I
ask
you
to
tell
us
why
or
to
shed
light
on,
why,
if
you
know
why
I
was
there
in
2004-2005-
and
I
was
there
again
just
last
week-
the
shepherd
appears
to
be
in
even
better
condition
today,
because
some
of
the
remodel
restoration
work
that
was
done
in
2004-2005
helped
to
preserve
it
and
the
interior
has
been
even
more
preserved
because
it
has
been
boarded
up
now.
C
C
I
know
who
have
toured
the
site
and
made
an
offer,
so
they
shared
with
me
interior
photos
of
how
it
looks,
and
it
looks
very
similar
to
how
it
did
15
years
ago.
So
I
would
like
to
know
why,
if
you
can
tell
us
why
they're
saying
that
back
then
it
appeared
to
have
integrity,
but
now
it
doesn't,
it
makes
no
sense.
B
Well,
all
I
can
do
remember
nelson
is
reference
page
34
of
the
hrg
report,
which
is
the
portion
that
I
was
referencing
in
my
staff
report
and
I'll.
Just
briefly
read
this
and
it
says
in
1961
the
shifts
commissioned
freight
and
designed
a
large
addition
to
the
residents
in
which
a
porch
overhang,
an
extension
of
the
front
bedroom
with
rounded
exterior
walls,
additional
rooms
at
the
south
facade
and
a
semi-circular
glass
pool
closure
were
added,
though
the
addition
exemplifies
certain
tenets
of
phrase
desert
modernism.
B
The
building
does
not
appear
to
be
an
outstanding
example
of
frey's
work.
So
that's
where
I'm
getting
my
comments
and
my
staff
report
why
this
particular
researcher
has
made
this
conclusion.
While
another
researcher
has
made
a
different
conclusion,
I
can't
provide
you
an
answer
for
that
other
than
it's.
I
guess
professional
analysis
on
the
part
of
the
individuals
looking
at
it,
and
I
I
haven't
queried
that
further
with
hrg.
C
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
it's
worth
looking
into
and
going
back
to
what
staff
said
about
the
three
powerful
I'm
pretty
much
in
agreement,
but
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
of
the
seven
bungalows
that
remain
only
the
ship
house
really,
my
humble
opinion-
has
any
real
integrity
left
because
it
is
clearly
it
can
clearly
be
traced
to
fray
in
his
style
that
he's
known
for
the
modernist
style.
C
The
other
bungalows
have
been
so
altered
and
changed
that
they
don't
really
seem
to
have
much
integrity
and
they
don't
really
contribute
to
the
overall
historic
nature
of
the
site.
So
I
would
say
that
parkour
5
should
not
be
included
in
class.
2
designation
and
the
only
part
of
the
rear
south
west
parcel
that
should
be
included
in
a
class.
C
2
designation
would
be
building
7,
which
is
just
because
I
don't
think
that
those
bungalows
any
longer
contribute
to
the
historic
integrity,
and
that
said,
the
biggest
parcel
with
buildings,
one
two,
three,
four,
eight
and
nine.
C
I
do
believe
that
building
one
two
three
and
four
are
worthy
of
class,
two,
possibly
higher,
but
none
of
that
other
land
in
that
first
parcel
closest
to
indian
canyon
drive
should
have
a
designation
placed
upon
it,
although
I
would
say
that
maybe
a
pathway
or
an
accident
leading
up
to
building
one
in
the
pool
shouldn't
be
included
in
a
designation
because
of
that
sense
of
arrival
and
feeling
you
know,
was
sighted
purposely
that
way
so
that
you
would
drive
up
and
you
would
see
the
mountain
backdrop
setting
and
the
pool
was
there
on
the
left
as
you
walked
up
to
the
building
and
into
the
bamboo
room,
and
you
could
see
it
through
the
windows
and
so
forth.
C
B
A
A
Okay,
so
seeing
no
further
questions
of
the
staff
to
the
staff,
I
would
like
to
now
open
the
public
hearing
and
I
understand
members
of
the
board
that
we
do
have
a
request
by
the
property
owner
requesting
the
postponement
of
the
public
hearing
at
this
time.
B
I
want
to
simply
help
you
understand
what
the
procedure
or
process
is
that
you're
going
to
go
through,
so
this
is
the
this
is
a
request
by
the
property
owner
to
postpone.
B
So
what
we're
asking
you
to
do
is
consider
that
request
at
this
time
only
the
request
to
postpone-
and
you
will
be
asked
to
make
a
motion
on
on
whether
to
postpone
or
to
reject
the
request,
to
postpone
and
in
the
event
that
you
vote
favorably
to
postpone.
B
Then
the
matter
will
be
the
I'm
sorry.
The
public
hearing
portion
will
remain
open,
but
the
item
will
be
continued
to
a
date
certain
of
your
november
meeting.
B
Now,
if
you,
on
the
other
hand,
reject
I'm
sorry
if
you,
if
you
reject
the
request
for
postponement
through
your
motion,
then
the
public
hearing
will
continue
today
and
the
people
who
wish
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this,
which
I
believe
miss
douglas,
would
like
to
speak
on
that
if
it
does
move
forward,
although
I'm
looking
at
all
the
lists,
oh
there
you
are
judy.
D
Lyon
and
madam
chair,
we
have
also
had
a
request
from
mr
brian
hedman
to
speak
on
this
item
under
public
comment.
So
I'll,
let
you
take
it
from
there.
Okay.
A
So
at
this
time
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
to
support
or
reject
the
request
to
postpone,
may
I
have
a
motion
on
the
property's
owner's
request
to
postpone
anyone.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
by
mr
nelson
to
to
reject
the
request
for
postponement
and
we
have
a
second
by
mrs
dixon.
A
Is
there
both
board
discussion
on
this
motion.
J
So
the
reason
that
I
was
asking
for
that
is
that
I
have
two
two
members
of
my
team
who
have
been
intimately
involved
in
this
program
that
just
so
happened
had
both
had
emergency
procedures
and
surgery
today.
J
So
I'm
I'm
happy
to
speak
and
I'm
here-
and
I
appreciate
this
very
last
minute,
but
that
was
the
reason
that
I
was
asking
for
the
postponement
not
just
to
postpone.
J
C
Yes,
in
the
past,
there
had
been
postponement
before
when
this
item
had
come
up
before
the
board
and
unfortunately,
the
applicant
or
this
owner
rather
have
a
history
of.
C
Being
dragging
this
out-
and
I
really
don't
think
for
the
need
for
postponement-
I
mean
we
have
all
the
facts
in
front
of
us.
We've
done
the
site
visit.
We,
this
board
has
heard
this
case
multiple
times.
C
This
has
been
an
ongoing
issue
now
for
over
15
years,
and
the
current
ownership
has
been
for
nearly
10
years,
and
we
have
this
on
our
agenda
now
and
we've
had
no
less
than
seven
letters
from
the
public,
including
one
from
the
owner,
which
is
a
lot
for
a
public
comment
received
via
mail
or
email,
and
I
believe
the
community
and
the
board
under
some
mistaken
are
ready
to
deal
with
this
now.
J
J
A
A
So
may
we
have
any
there's
no
other
discussion.
Can
we
vote
on
that
all
those
in
favor
of
the
motion?
Please
say
I
raise
your.
C
A
Okay,
so
the
motion
carries
forward
four
to
four,
so
thank
you.
The
request
to
postpone
has
been
rejected.
The
public
hearing
is
open
staff
is
the
property
owner
wish
to.
B
Well,
in
in
your
public
comments
that
I
forwarded
to
you,
there
was
a
written
public
comment
letter
from
miss
douglas,
but
I
think
you
should
direct
your
question
to
her,
certainly
as
the
property
owner,
she
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
further
if
she
wishes
to
do
so.
J
J
J
We
bought
the
property
close
10
years
ago
with
the
expectation
of
building
a
condo
development
for
the
lgbtq
plus
and
all
friends
community
in
palm
springs,
and
we
spent
many
years,
and
perhaps
we
were
naive
when
we
bought
it.
We
are
not
professional
developers.
We
just
thought
that
this
would
be
an
incredibly
wonderful
project
to
take
over.
J
J
J
That
the
developers
efforts
be
supported
by
all
and
not
burdened
by
unrealistic
requirements.
I
am
beseeching
this
group
to
take
a
look
at
what
happens
on
that
area
when
it
has
not
been
developed
for
you
know
decades,
and
please,
the
neighborhood
and
the
entire
community
deserve
the
opportunity
to
see
something,
terrific
and
great
built.
J
J
It
is
in
the
best
interest
of
a
developer
to
do
that,
and
we
at
olivia
communities
would
feel
that
all
the
time
money
and
effort
spent
to
get
a
project
done
would
not
have
been
in
vain.
We
asked
that,
should
a
designation
class,
2
or
3
be
recommended
that
it
be
for
the
purpose
of
respectful
homage
by
the
developer
without
additional
unrealistic
requirements.
J
J
I
have
included
a
copy
of
the
site
plan
proposal
that
the
last
developer
had
created
so
that
you
can
see
the
efforts
that
were
made
and
abandoned,
and
this
has
happened
over
and
over
again,
and
I
have
pleaded
to
please
not
expect
are
now
highly
dilapidated
were
when
I
bought
the
property.
You
know.
We've
certainly
tried
to
board
up
everything.
We've
tried
to.
You
know
just
hold
it
in
place,
so
we
could
find
someone
who
would
take
this
property
and
develop
it.
J
The
neighborhood
and
the
neighbors
deserve
better,
and
I
am
so
sorry
that
I
ca
you
know
if
I
had
the
ability
and
the
money
to
you
know
to
do
it
differently.
I
would
do
it
and
I
thought
we
could
when
we
first
took
over
the
project,
but
I
could
not
find
a
developer
to
make
that
happen.
The
bamboo
room
would
have
to
be
completely
torn
down.
It
is
not
a
structure
that
is
viable.
J
You
know,
and
I
love
that
I
love
the
building,
but
it's
it
has
it's.
The
integrity
is
not
there.
I
don't
know
how
to
convince
a
developer
that
they
should
spend
millions
of
dollars
to
reconstruct
something
that
will
that
I
mean
the
the
folks
that
we
had
were
willing
to
do
that.
I
can
read
a
description
of
what
they
were
proposing,
but
they
were
canadians
and
had
a
really
beautiful
idea
of
making
this
area
look
beautiful
and
we've
lost
it.
Yeah
we've
absolutely
lost
it,
so
they
have
wrote
to
me
and
said
judy.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
judy
for
your
very
passionate
from
the
heart
statement.
We
really
appreciate
your
you're
making
that
statement.
A
You
know
this
is
a
time
for
public
comment
only
and
there
it's
not
a
question
and
answer,
so
we
will
have
the
opportunity
for
the
board
to
ask
questions
so
at
this
time.
I
wanted
to
know
if
there
was
anyone
else
who
is
signed
up
to
speak
on
this
item
in
the
public
hearing.
D
A
F
F
It's
often
referred
to
as
the
hollingsworth
tennis
estate
or
more
recently
known
as
the
quote
hidden
fray.
I
listened
to
everything
that
miss
judy
said
I
sympathize
and
understand
and
agree
with
the
need
to
be
commercially
sensitive
and
flexible
on
this
property.
F
I
want
more
than
anything
as
a
direct
neighbor,
to
see
this
lot
developed
it's
important
to
me
that
it
be
developed.
It's
also
important
to
me,
as
somebody
who
cares
about
the
history
of
palm
springs
and
and
cares
about
architecture
and
as
a
as
an
owner
of
a
albert
fred
property
that,
whatever
is
done,
is
done
with
sensitivity
to
the
history
and
to
the
architecture
of
the
existing
site.
F
I
I
there's
a
connection
between
my
home
and
the
racket
club
and
obviously
a
greater
connection
between
the
neighborhood
and
the
racket
club
as
a
former
anchor
to
the
north
end,
and
so
I
don't
have
a
comment
today
to
you
know
implore
the
board
to
take
one
action
versus
another.
It's
really
more
just
to
thank
the
board
for
their
attention
and
their
expertise
and
the
continued
effort
to
push
this
forward
and
find
some
path
and
solution
for
the
property.
F
However,
I
I
also
understand
there
are
equal
and
competing
and
maybe
stronger
arguments
I
don't
know
but
equal
arguments-
that
an
appropriate
designation
would
assist
in
attracting
a
buyer,
assist
in
allowing
the
current
owner
or
future
owner
to
avail
themselves
of
tax
benefits
and
to
put
the
property
to
use
in
a
way
that
you
know
doesn't
entail
demolishing
the
entire
clubhouse
and
building
a
you
know,
a
two
three-story
condo
complex,
something
that
is
sensitive
to
what
exists.
But
also
commercially
viable,
and
so
you
know
I
recognize
this
as
a
capitalistic
endeavor.
F
I
understand
that
that
needs
to
be
considered,
but
I
think
that
this
board
is
doing
the
right
thing
by
continuing
to
keep
us
on
the
radar
continuing
to
push
it
forward
and
to
think
critically
about
it.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
the
board
I
wanted
to
let
you
know.
As
a
member
of
the
community,
I
support
you
know
finding
a
responsible
way
forward
for
this,
and-
and
I
hope
that
that
happens
sooner
than
later,
so
thank
you.
A
F
Yeah
I
didn't
right,
lovely
face
was
gonna
appear
on
the
screen,
but
I'll
start
speaking
anyway.
The
palm
springs
modern
committee
that
I
represent
strongly
supports
the
class
two
designation
of
the
of
the
property
and,
as
relates
to
the
schiff
house,
I
think
there
is
a
case
to
be
made
that
it
is
significant.
F
I
wrote
the
national
register
nomination
for
albert
frey,
and
this
is
this
building-
represents
the
later
part
of
his
career
and
has
design
elements
that
are
unique
to
that
part
of
his
career.
So
I
would
say
that
that
might
even
qualify
for
class
one
historic
site
designation,
the
shift
house,
but
so
that's
that
would
be
the
the
summary.
A
D
Okay,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
I'm
ken
hall,
I'm
also
a
neighbor.
I
didn't
get
to
sign
up.
I
did
communicate
earlier
with
mr
lyons
indicating
my
interest
in
attending
today
and
I
see
I
can
now
put
my
video
on.
Thank
you.
D
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate-
or
I
guess
echo
the
comments
of
mr
hedman
another
neighbor.
I
live
a
couple
streets
to
the
north.
Sorry
I
own
that
property.
I
don't
live
there,
but
I
for
a
long
time,
have
wanted
to
see
something
happen
at
this
property
that
respects
the
historical
legacy
there
and
and
I've
submitted.
D
You
know
comments
in
response
to
getting
the
notice
of
public
hearings
in
the
past
and
and
it
does
seem
to
me
like
it's
just
dragged
on
and
on,
and
I
do
hope
that
that
the
board
can
make
a
decision
that
that
provides
enough
flexibility
to
attract
you
know,
make
it
viable
for
a
developer,
and
I
think
the
report
really
highlights
the
the
most
important
pieces
to
protect,
which,
in
my
opinion,
are
the
the
bamboo
lounge
and
the
clubhouse.
D
I
remember
visiting
it
many
years
ago
and-
and
I
was
interested
to
hear
the
comments
of
mr
nelson
regarding
the
the
integrity,
that's
behind
the
bordered
up
shift
house.
D
So
it
seems
like
there's
enough
space
there
to
still
offer
opportunities
for
commercially
viable
development
that
that
protects
and
preserves
those
important
historic.
J
It's
not
a
rebuttal.
I
just
wanted
to
ask.
I
mean
I,
you
know,
there's
not
an
objection
to
having
a
historic
designation.
The
question
is:
how
does
that
impact
the
ability
to
find
someone
to
develop
the
property,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
there's,
an
understanding
of
the
both
the
desire
to
well
are
there
going
to
be
specifics?
J
Are
that
you
know
I
mean
what
is
the?
What
would
the
intention
be
because
that's
what
I
you
know,
I'm
I
agree
with
everyone
about
the
historical
value
of
the
of
the
record
club.
It's
really
about
well,
what
is
it
that
we're
going
to
try
to
maintain
and
what
is
it
that
we're
going
to
enable
a
developer
to
you
know
probably
develop
a
property
that
is
this
run
down,
so
I
want
to
leave
it
at
that.
Yeah,
okay,.
A
C
Yeah,
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
to
the
owner
for
being
able
to
attend
and
to
speak.
We
really
do
appreciate
it,
and
I
read
your
letter
earlier
and
I
looked
into
it
again
today
and
I
just
have
to
take
disagreement
with
one
thing,
and
that
is
the
condition
of
the
property.
C
I
do
remember
how
it
looked
10
years
ago,
and
it
was
a
much
better
condition
than
it
is
today,
and
you
know
that
too,
and
the
fact
that
there's
graffiti
everywhere
and
the
bungalows
have
been
broken
into
and
a
lot
of
that
has
been
damaged
and
toilets,
removed
and
tile,
broken
and
so
forth.
It
just
seems
that
it
could
have
been
a
little
bit
better,
secured
and
voted
up.
C
They
said
the
historic
significance
is
a
strong
interest
with
our
neighborhood
organization
members,
and
we
are
desperate
to
see
this
seriously
bloody
property
cleaned
up
and
made
presentable.
Please
proceed
with
the
designation.
Then.
Please
find
a
way
to
get
the
owner
to
make
the
seriously
blighted
property
more
preventable
things
unquote.
C
So
you
know,
having
said
all
that,
I
think
that
we
should
let
other
people
chime
in
at
this
point.
D
D
I
don't
know
if
the
pool
or
the
tennis
court,
whatever
the
package
would
be,
which
could
be
relocated
any
place
on
the
site,
because
basically
everything's
going
to
have
to
be
torn
down
anyway,
which
would
say
okay.
This
is
what
the
racket
club
used
to
look
like
like.
We
have
a
little
snapshot
of
it,
not
where
it
was
because
where
it
is
it's
taking
up
a
huge
piece
of
the
property
and
that
it
would
give
a
developer
a
certain
sense
of
okay.
D
These
are
the
parameters
that
we
have
to
deal
with,
rather
than
them
creating
these
grand
plans-
and
I
was
on
the
board
when
the
spa
plan
was
presented,
and
it
was
fantastic
and
honestly,
the
reaction
of
the
hsb
was
really
very
good.
Catherine.
You
were
at
that
meeting
too,
and
the
only
real
comments
was.
D
It
was
really
very
positive
with
a
very
few
recommendations,
so
that
being
said,
if
we
could
come
forward
with
something
that
would
be
like
these
are
the
recommendations.
These
are
important
things
but
give
a
developer
leeway
in
dealing
with
those
things.
I
think
that
that
would
make
the
property
more
saleable
and
it
would
allow
palm
springs
to
have
something
that
would
still
be
a
tourist
attraction
on
part
of
it.
Will
it
ever
be
the
old
ragged
club?
No,
it
won't.
The
old
racquet
club
is
gone.
D
So,
let's
make
a
little
monument
to
what
the
racquet
club
was.
What
was
beautiful
about
it
and
make
that
be
a
tourist
attraction
for
palm
springs
and
give
the
developer
freedom
to
make
some
money
on
this
property?
Otherwise
we're
going
to
be
doing
this,
I'm
timed
off
of
this
board
in
two
years.
It'll
be
like
you
know
when
I
go
on
that,
like
jay
does
in
10
more
years,
you
know.
So
that's
where
I
am.
D
A
Agree
with
mr
kaiser,
if
we
could
agree
with
all
of
your
comments
and
if,
if
we
could
have
mr
lyon,
you
know
give
us
some
wisdom
about
that.
Mr
lyon,
sure.
B
Did
you
want
to?
Did
you
want
to
hear
miss
dixon's
question
before
I
begin.
E
B
Certainly,
an
individual
parcel
anywhere
in
the
city
can
be
sold
if
one
were
to
sell,
for
example,
one
of
the
rear
parcels
that
don't
have
access
to
a
public
street
there
would
need
to
be
some
type
of
a
reciprocal
access
agreement
across
the
frontage
lots.
But
I
guess
conceptually
one
could
sell
one
or
two
or
separately
sell
the
lots
that
would
be
up
to
the
potential
buyer
and
the
seller.
That
would
not
be
a
factor
of
the
city
other
than.
E
That
so,
if
I
look
at
the
map,
that's
in
our
packet
is
that,
where
parcel
5
is
near,
san
marco
way
is
that
a
street
that's
coming
down
that
dead
ends
into
that
parcel.
B
Just
a
minute:
yes,
that
is
a
street
that
does
dead
end
at
the
northerly
boundary
of
the
racket
club
parcels.
F
B
B
B
So
let's
say
you
look
at
the
racquet
club
site
and
I
want
to
first
make
a
distinction
about
those
interior
places
on
this
site.
As
you
know,
the
board's
purview
and
authority
is
limited
to
the
exterior
of
privately
owned
parcels,
so
the
board's
authority
to
quote
unquote
designate
something
is-
is
limited
to
those
things
which
are
the
exterior
characteristics.
B
In
the
case
of
the
racquet
club,
everyone
recognizes
that
the
bamboo
room
is
one
of
the
most.
I
guess
important
if
you
will,
or
or
significant
surviving
components
of
the
site.
So
if
the
board
chooses
to
move
a
recommendation
forward
with
respect
to
the
bamboo
room,
what
your
resolution
would
say
is
whatever
pieces
and
parts
of
the
building
you're
going
to
see
are
character,
defining
and
then
you
would
say
relative
to
the
bamboo
room.
We
would
recommend
and
encourage
the
owner
to
whatever
it
is.
B
So
it
would
be
a
matter
of
making
a
recommendation
on
that
interior
as
it
relates
to
the
other
elements
on
the
site,
the
other
buildings
on
the
site,
when,
if
you
decide
to
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council
in
your
recommendation,
you're
going
to
tell
us
what
are
what
you
believe
as
a
board
are
the
historic
character
defining
features
of
this
site.
B
You
may
say
all
of
the
buildings
that
are
sitting
there
are
character.
Defining
you
may
say
only
the
shift
house
is
character,
defining
you
may
say
the
clubhouse
building
that
portion
of
it,
which
contains
the
bamboo
room.
You
know
you
can
parse
this
thing
to
a
certain
extent
and
then,
when
a
developer
goes
in
and
considers
making
a
development
or
an
alteration
of
that
historic
site
that
will
come
back
to
the
board
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
B
B
If
you
will
that
member
kaiser
is
talking
about
so
you
may
choose
to
say
to
the
city
council,
we
recommend,
whatever
you
want
to
recommend
class
one
class,
two
with
the
following
elements
being
what
we
believe
are
the
character,
defining
features
of
the
site
and
and
if
you
choose
to
talk
about
the
bamboo
room
and
the
bamboo
room
is
one
that
we
would
recommend
that
an
owner
consider
preserving
and
integrating
into
some
type
of
future
development.
B
Those
are
the
kinds
of
languaging
that
the
board
could
consider
as
you
wrestle
with
what
you
want
to
do
with
this
particular
nomination.
But
ultimately,
designation
attaches
to
a
apn,
the
apn
on
that
apn
or
on
that
parcel.
There
are
historic
resources
or
character,
defining
features,
and
that's
how
you
make
those
distinctions
between
the
two.
A
Thank
you,
mr
lyon,
for
giving
that
really
wonderful
explanation.
That
was
really
really
good,
because
this
is,
you
know,
quite
a
dilemma.
You
know
the
significance,
but
not
the
integrity,
so
it's
really
really
difficult.
It
are
there
other
comments,
discussions
that
the
board
would
like
to
take
before
we
move
to
a
motion.
C
Yeah
wow
here
we
are
finally
taking
a
vote
on
this
after
so
long.
C
It's
so
with
so
many
issues
and
what
ifs
and
questions
and
doubts-
and
you
know,
aspirations
and
hopes
and
dreams
and
all
these
things,
but
I
would
just
like
to
circle
back
to
the
point
that
without
charlie
fell,
there
would
have
been
no
record
club
and
it
was
the
home
of
charlie
phil
in
virginia
virginia
valley.
C
He
was
the
mayor.
We
all
know
the
pool
is
just
as
iconic
at
the
bamboo
room,
it's
where
so
many
startups
were
discovered,
where
so
many
celebrities
had
famous
dips
and
late
night
by
the
pool
and
drunken
conversations
and
whatnot.
C
It
is
the
stuff
of
laura
and
hong
kong
myth
and
legend,
much
of
which
was
actually
true.
C
So
you
know
it's
not
so
much
about
the
buildings
as
it
is
about
the
people
the
place,
the
setting
charlie
bell.
It
was
his
vision
that
allowed
this
place
to
happen.
C
C
I
still
believe
that
the
building
number
two
excuse
me
building
number
one.
The
main
building
the
clubhouse
and
the
bamboo
room
are
very
indicative
of
the
type
and
style
that
was
so
prevalent
around
palm
springs
in
the
30s
and
40s,
and
I
think
it
would
be
hoover
to
require
that
in
our
nomination
we
specify
that
that
building
be
rebuilt
in
the
exact
same
style
with
that
board
and
batten
the
wood
shake
roof
and
that
the
elements
of
the
bamboo
lounge
be
preserved
or
brought
back.
C
You
know,
as
a
recommendation,
I'm
not
in
favor
of
saying
that
part
of
that
building
is
significant
because
then
you're
chopping
it
up.
So
the
clubhouse
building
is
all
one
piece
and
you
know
I
think
that
you
could
take
the
inside
out
and
have
a
shell
to
redesign
it
and
reconfigure
it.
The
way
you
want
it,
but
just
making
sure
the
bamboo
lounge
was
in
the
same
place
and
then
having
your
way
with
the
dining
room
and
the
kitchen
and
so
forth.
C
So
my
my
feeling
is
to
encourage
as
many
people
as
possible
to
recognize
the
value
of
building
one,
the
clubhouse
and
bamboo
room
item
two,
which
is
the
pool
and
item
three,
which
was
the
charlie
phil
house
of
being
the
most
significant
thing
on
that
person.
C
Even
though
the
tennis
court
was
from
1969,
it's
the
only
one
left
and
the
whole
reason
for
the
rocket
club
was
to
have
tentacles
because
the
mordor
tennis
court
became
so
popular.
There
wasn't
enough
room
to
play
there
anymore
and
that's
where
charlie
phil
got
the
big
dream
to
say:
okay,
we're
gonna,
buy
this
box
of
land
and
put
a
venture
tennis
court
and
have
the
record
club,
and
so
that's
what
happened.
So
that's
the
only
tennis
court
left.
C
So
I
believe
that
that
should
be
a
significant
contributing
element
as
well,
and
then
the
only
other
item
for
me
would
be
building
seven,
which
was
the
ship
house,
and
those
are
the
five
items,
one
two,
three
four
and
seven
that
I
humbly
believe
should
be
included
as
part
of
a
class
two
designation,
with
the
possibility
of
further
investigation
for
the
ship
house
to
be
upgraded
to
a
class
one.
F
This
is
a
tough
one
for
me,
but
looking
at
the
map,
you
know
it
it's
my
understanding
that
if
you
know,
according
to
the
report
like
the
2005
condo
building,
we
don't
earmark
that
one
that
that
basically
can
come
down
pretty
easily
I'm
a
little
torn
on
the
the
seven
bungalows.
I
know
it's
they're
they're,
not
phrase
best
phrase
best
work,
but
you
know
looking
at
this
map
also
there's
a
lot
of
space
there.
That
could
be
transformed
into
something
different.
D
I
think
that
the
main
clubhouse,
the
parts
where
the
kitchens
were
and
everything
else
are
not
relevant.
Those
are
support
areas
and
if
those
were
to
be
torn
down,
you
keep
the
front
facade
and
you
could
build
what
you
want
behind
it.
So
we'd
have
the
bamboo
room.
You'd,
have
the
facade
facing
the
pool
they'd
be
free
to
to
develop
new
kitchens
behind
it.
I
don't
think
keeping
that
whole
building
intact
is
necessary.
D
A
Okay,
mrs
dixon,
this
is
nothing
more
to
add.
Okay!
Well,
I'm
you
know
100
percent
keen
on
the
ship
house
and
and
making
a
recommendation
to
relative
to
the
bamboo
room,
to
recommend
to
the
owner
to
either
preserve
or
recreate
that
that,
in
conjunction
with
the
pool,
would
be
a
a
good
solution.
A
A
Okay,
so
seeing
no
further
discussion,
may
I
have
a
motion,
someone,
j,
j,
nelson.
C
Okay,
wow.
C
I
have
listened
to
everyone
and
I've
attended
hsb
meeting
long
before
this
meeting,
and
I
followed
this
passionately
and
I
know
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
who
followed
it
passionately
and
we've
all
agreed
that
it's
important.
So
that
being
said,
my
motion
would
be
to
follow
staff
recommendation.
C
Let
me
just
get
my
bearings
here
to
recommend
that
city
council
designate
the
rocket
club
right
a
across
to
with
the
amendment
that
it
not
pertain
to
the
entirety
of
all
three
puzzles,
but
to
building
one
three
and
seven,
and
also
including
the
pool
which
is
item
two
and
the
tennis
court
that
remained,
which
was
item
four.
C
If
you
take
the
back
of
the
fur
house
at
the
southernmost
tip,
you
would
draw
a
line
from
there
all
the
way
to
indian,
so
basically
that
whole
north
east
corner
of
indian
and
the
part
of
property
that
about
san
marco
way
would
be
part
of
the
class
2
designation
to
preserve
the
association
of
feeling.
C
So
that
would
be
the
recommendation.
If
anyone
has
questions
about
my
motion,
I'm
happy
to
answer
them
or
to
clarify
it.
A
So,
mr
nelson,
would
you
just
clarify
the
numbers
I
understood
class
two
for
for
numbers,
one
two,
three,
four
and
seven:
is
that
correct.
C
Item
number
one,
two,
three,
four,
seven,
that
is
correct
and
if
somebody
would
like
to
amend
to
include
one
of
the
other
bungalows,
that's
considered
part
of
the
number
six
one
of
the
six
bungalows.
I
would
be
open
to
that
just
to
show
that
they
were
part
of
the
original
feeling
and
association
of
the
site,
because
they
did
play
a
role
in
the
history.
C
I
think
that
would
be
up
to
one
of
our
local
organizations,
such
as
modcom
or
pfbf,
to
write
a
nomination
to
designate
it
to
a
higher
status.
I
don't
think
we
should
be
concerning
ourselves
with
anything
class
one
at
this
time.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
Misha.
A
Yes,
so
you
put
that
in
the
form
of
emotion.
Is
that
correct?
Mr
nelson?
That's
emotion
basically
build
you
know
buildings,
one
two,
three
four
and
seven,
and
maybe
something
in
six.
That's,
I
think,
maybe
a
little
too
tentative.
Maybe.
C
One
of
the
six
bungalows
would
be
the
one
that's
closest
to
the
so
there's
one.
One
of
the
six
bungalows
is
right
behind
number
three,
the
feral
house,
and
that
would
make
sense
because
it
would
open
the
rest
of
that
parcel
up
for
possible
development
and
it
would
be
more
cohesive
to
have
a
new
larger
project
back
there.
B
E
C
You
know
with
this
sense
that
you
were
driving
up
to
it
and
then
you
were
driving
away
from
it
and
it
was
a
real
setback.
So
you
had
this
again
this
this
old
palm
springs
feeling
which
can
easily
be
brought
back.
C
If
you
retain
that
frontage
as
part
of
the
designation
and
just
to
use
an
example,
the
old
desert
inn
downtown,
which
is
where
you
know,
the
rowan
hotel
and
the
great
development
is
and
the
starbucks
and
all
that
it
too
had
a
setback
and
it
had
a
a
big
driveway
and
it
created
this
wonderful
old
romantic
feelings
that
we've
lost
in
a
lot
of
our
old
buildings.
E
A
Any
other
discussion
any
further
discussion,
I'll.
A
Okay,
mr
lyon,.
B
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
little
clarification
in
your
motion.
I
would
like
you
to
if
you
would
be
willing
to
identify
specifically
which
one
of
the
six
bungalows
you'd
like
to
include
as
a
character
defining
feature.
It
makes
no
difference
to
me,
of
course,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we
identify,
which
one
you
feel
is
noteworthy
enough
to
to
be
granted
the
class
two
status.
C
Sure
and
I'm
gonna
ask
for
your
help
and
the
board
fell
from
this
because,
to
be
honest,
the
last
time
I
was
at
the
site
last
week.
I
didn't
spend
a
whole
lot
of
time,
looking
at
each
bungalow
and
studying
them
and
their
positions
and
the
quality
of
each
one.
However,
I
do
think
it's
important
that
one
of
them
be
added
to
this
as
a
character
defining
feature
because
they
were
important
and
if
we're
going
to
keep
one,
we
should
probably
come
to
a
concern
which
one
it
is.
C
I
just
thought
that
the
one
behind
the
feral
house
made
the
most
sense,
because
it
would
free
up
all
of
that
room
to
the
west
and
the
south
for
the
remaining
bungalow
to
maybe
be
made
into
a
new
development
or
a
larger
building,
or
something
like
that.
If
anyone
has
any
thoughts
as
to
which
bungalow
would
be
better,
I'm
completely
open
to
that.
A
I
I
would
give
a
recommendation
that
the
bungalow
close
to
the
shift
house
might
be
a
better
situation,
because
there
again
is
a
dialogue
in
a
relationship
between
the
two
buildings
and
the
only
buildings.
You
know
that
were
designed
by
albert
frey
and
that
little
corner
could
be
defined
and
and
strengthened
by
having
the
two
together.
That
would
be
a
recommendation.
I
would
make.
C
I
think
that's
an
excellent
point
and
I
really
do
agree
with
that.
So
I
will
amend
my
motion
that
the
the
the
bungalow
that
we
include
of
the
character
defining
feature
in
addition
to
the
ship
house
would
be
the
one
immediately
to
the
north
of
the
chapel
towards
the
very
rear
of
that
puzzle.
A
Sorry,
mr
kaiser,
you
had
your
hand
up.
A
B
I
want
to
further
clarify
member
nelson
on
your
recommendation
on
the
charlie
farrell
house.
As
you
know,
the
charlie
farrell
house
has
had
a
significant
addition
done
to
it
according
to
building
permits
sometime
in
the
1980s.
B
But
my
question
for
you
is
in
making
your
recommendation
to
include
the
feral
house
as
a
character
defining
element
on
the
site.
Are
you
talking
about
that
portion
of
the
pharaoh
house,
which
is
the
original
house
excluding
the
1980s
edition,
or
are
you
talking
about
the
entire
structure,
including
the
1980s
edition.
B
I
don't
know
which
part
is,
but
we
could
certainly
probably
through
some
forensic
studies
and
review
of
possible
permits.
I
don't
know
this
becomes
and
I
I
don't
want
to
digress
on
this,
but
this
becomes
a
bit
of
the
challenge
that
was
presented
to
the
board
on
a
home
that
you
were
considering.
C
B
Don't
know
whether
we
have
any
records-
I
don't
know
photographic
records
would
help
reveal
this
it
might.
There
are
a
lot
of
photos
of
the
racquet
club,
maybe
through
the
process
of
reviewing
vintage
photos,
it
can
be
determined
where
that
original
house
was
and
what
part
of
it
was
then
not
really
part
of
the
period
of
significance.
I
might
recommend
that
you,
if
you
want
to
include
the
feral
house,
that
you
make
that
distinction
and
identify
it
as
trying
to
recognize
those
portions
of
it
at
the
original
house,
excluding
the
latter
editions.
C
Got
it
there
is,
to
my
knowledge,
a
historical
photo
of
the
charlie
brown
house.
Shortly
after
it
was
built,
I've
seen
it.
I
know
that
steven
keelan
has
seen
it.
I
don't
have
access
to
the
photo
at
the
moment,
otherwise
I
will
share
it.
I
do
believe
that
it
faced
the
pool.
C
So
what
reads
that
the
current
front
of
it
was
the
original
front,
so
it
would
make
sense
to
me
that
in
the
80s
edition
probably
went
towards
the
back,
perhaps
toward
the
southwest.
B
C
Correct
so
long
as
that
includes
the
facade
that
is
facing
the
pool.
B
You're
interested
in
it
and
I'm
not
trying
to
you,
know,
I'm
not
trying
to
push
you
one
way
or
the
other.
I'm
just
saying
that
if
the
pharaoh
house,
you
believe
should
be
character
defining.
I
would
recommend
that
you,
you
sort
of
carve
out
that
portion
of
it.
That's
not
part
of
the
historic
period,
the
1980s
stuff,
and
let
that
let
let
the
forensics
of
that
be
left
to
the
future,
to
figure
out
which
parts
original
which
parts
not.
C
Well,
we
know:
what's
happened
in
the
past,
that's
what
I'm
gonna
say
on
that,
but
I
I
know
what
you're
saying-
and
I
agree
with
you.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
amend
the
motion
that
it
includes
the
charlie
brown
house,
but
not
the
80s
edition,
whatever
that
may
turn
out
to
be.
B
Okay,
I
think
that
makes
sense.
Member
nelson,
I
have
another
question
now
and
I'm
sorry
to
be
prolonging
this,
but
I
want
clarity
on
this
so
that
I
can
make
the
recommendations
as
we
carry
this
thing
forward.
If
that's
where
it
goes,
your
discussion
about
the
site
and
that
portion
of
it,
which
is
the
front
quote,
unquote
portion
of
the
site.
B
But
I'm
going
to
say
this
is
that
you're
saying
that
the
open
space
in
that
part
of
the
site
is
a
critical
character,
defining
feature,
and
I'm
not
sure
you
can
really
make
that
finding
either.
But
if
you
remember
many
many
many
years
ago,
the
santa
fe
federal
savings
and
loan
building
the
site
was
significant
because
it
allowed
the
perspective
and
the
views
of
that
particular
building.
B
If
you
do
remember,
that
was
a
building
in
which
all
four
sides
had
architectural
significance
of
it
and
the
board
identified
not
only
the
building,
but
also
those
portions
of
the
open
space
around
it
is
character.
Defining
same
thing.
When
you've
identified
courtyard
buildings,
you
said
that
the
open
space
in
the
middle
of
the
courtyard
is
actually
character,
defining
in
the
in
the
identification
of
the
historic,
significant
elements
of
that
site.
B
On
this
one,
I
want
to
challenge
you
a
bit
to
either
clarify
or,
however,
you
want
to
do
it,
but
the
the
elements
that
you're
talking
about
the
recreation
of
this
grand
entrance
is
is
talking
about
features
that
don't
exist,
and
my
only
other
caution
is
as
we
go
back
and
talk
about
what
judy
has
talked
about
and
what
dan
has
talked
about,
allowing
a
developer
as
much
flexibility
as
possible
to
make
this
site
viable,
which
is,
I
think,
what
I'm
hearing
people
say
is
important.
B
You're
saying
I'm
hearing,
you
say
this
is
an
important
site.
These
are
important
buildings,
but
we
want
to
do
everything
we
can
to
remove
obstacles
to
its
future
redevelopment,
and
so
I
just
want
you
guys
to
sort
of
wrestle
with
that
question
a
moment
whether
you
want
to
actually
lock
in
that
open
space
or
whether
you
would
like
to
whether
you
would
rather
leave
it
to
the
potential
of
integrating
into
a
future
redevelopment
in
some
way
that
might
still
be
open
space
in
the
grand
entrance,
but
doesn't
begin
to
sort
of
dictate.
C
It
does
absolutely-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
making
all
of
those
coins
and
clarification,
and
while
I
understand
your
caution,
I'd
like
to
explain
why
I
included
that
land
to
begin
with,
because
I
thought
it
would
give
us
the
interest
to
be
the
ability,
the
ability
or
the
power
to
better
control.
C
So
the
reason
I
included
just
that
small
section
of
land
was
so
that
when
a
project
does
come
before
for
review
at
this
site
in
the
future,
under
a
new
owner
that
we
at
least
have
some
ability
to
have
input
on
how
the
driveway
is
or
how
the
parking
is,
because,
as
I
understand
it,
if
land
is
included
as
part
of
a
designation,
then
hspb
does
have
to
prove
you
to
decide
or
to
have
input
and
recommendation
to
the
council
on
how
that
should
look.
If
you
disagree
with
me
totally,
please
tell
me.
B
Well,
I'm
not
here
to
agree
or
disagree
with
you,
I'm
I'm
wanting
to
try
to
help
you
formulate
this
in
a
way
that
achieves
whatever
the
board's
goals
are
as
well
as
leaving
as
much
open
to
possibility
for
re
active
redevelopment
as
possible.
B
The
one
thing
that
I
would
offer
on
this
matter,
member
nelson,
is
do
keep
in
mind
that
if
this
site
gets
a
class
1
or
class,
2
designation
and
a
future
developer
comes
in
with
a
development
proposal,
it
does
come
before
the
board
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
and
you
do
have
the
ability
at
that
time,
to
impose
your
opinions
and
recommendations
on
what
that
site
development
might
be
now.
B
Of
course,
you
do
that
through
the
mechanism
of
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
with
any
action
and
decision
that
this
board
makes
it
is
appealable
to
the
city
council.
So
I
don't
want
to
squash
your
concern.
B
B
I
hear
your
concern
because
you've
seen
sites
in
the
past
go
through
a
heavy-handed
redevelopment,
but
I
think
you've
got
to
have
some
faith
in
both
the
abilities
and
talents
of
future
hspbs,
as
well
as
to
entrust
that
this
new
historic
preservation
ordinance
that
we
have
will
protect
against
some
of
those
problems
that
have
happened
in
the
past,
and
I
believe
that
that
ordinance
and
the
boards
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
B
B
I
would
even
go
as
far
as
to
say,
and
you
I
think
dan
was
getting
at
this
a
bit,
and
I've
done
this
and
also
what
I've
recommended
is
quote,
unquote,
character
defining.
I
don't.
I
don't
personally
think
that
the
kitchen
portion
of
the
clubhouse
building
is
character.
Defining
I
really
don't
it's
back
of
the
house
space.
B
It
isn't
where
the
hollywood
stars
congregated.
It
isn't
where
the
kibitzing
and
you
know,
cajoling
and
everything
took
place
that
really
took
place
in
the
in
the
bamboo
room
and
around
the
swimming
pool
and
to
to
lock
in
all
of
the
clubhouse
building,
including
that
back
kitchen
and
and
make
it
basically
the
potential
to
be
an
obstacle
to
future
development.
B
B
C
B
So
when
it
comes
to
open
space,
I
think
you
can
talk
about
the
swimming
pool.
I
think
your
points
are
compelling
in
terms
of
the
swimming
pool
being
an
element
of
significance.
The
tennis
courts
certainly
symbolically
represents
the
very
genesis
of
this
site.
It's
from
what
is
this
particular
report
is
identifying
as
a
period
of
significance
so
that
those
two
elements
you
could
consider
as
as
vital
open
space
that
are
character,
defining
open
space.
If
you
want.
B
B
B
C
It
does
if
we
didn't
include
the
ship
house
in
this,
though,
if
the
current
owner
or
future
owner
decided
to
apply
for
demolition
permit,
then
that
would
have
to
come
before
us
or
not.
Yes,
okay,
okay,
that
doesn't
change
my
feelings.
So
I'd
like
to
amend
my
motion,
the
original
motion
was
to
include
item
one
two,
three
and
seven,
with
the
bungalow
closest
to
seven,
which
is
the
ship
house
so
and
then
I
think
in
my
original
motion.
C
C
So
if
you
don't
have
any
of
that,
it
takes
away
that
historic
feeling.
So
if
a
developer
has
that
space
around
the
pool
a
character
defining,
we
can
then
say:
okay,
we
want
it
to
be
recreated
like
it
was
back
then,
which
makes
a
lot
of
sense
because
that's
where
people
went,
they
went
there
to
congregate
around
the
pool
and
there
should
be.
C
B
B
That's
the
request
that
a
developer
can
come
in
and
ask
a
future
board
to
approve,
and
the
future
board
can
then
contemplate
that
wrestle
with
it
as
you
do
move
forward
with
the
decision.
So
the
short
answer
is
yes
or
idea
of
identifying
open
space,
quantifying
it
by
saying
20
feet
around
all
sides
of
the
pool.
I
I
don't
think
is,
I
think,
is
a
reasonable
way
of
of
characterizing
your
concern
without
thwarting
or
blocking
or
exacerbating
future
redevelopment.
A
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
to
building
one
because
the
only
defining
character
that
I
see
with
building
one
is,
you
know
the
the
facade
that
faces
the
pool
you
know
on
the
looking
south
and
of
course
you
know
the
the
bamboo
room,
which
is
you
know
the
most
redeeming
element.
You
know
we
can't
deal
with
the
interior,
but
our
recommendation
is
to
to
to
to
rebuild
around
to
have
a
bamboo
room,
so
the
rest
of
the
building
won.
A
C
Okay
yeah,
I
agree
so
building
three
and
seven:
the
pool
number
two:
the
tennis
court
number
four
20
feet
to
the
front
or
east
of
the
pool
and
then
all
the
space
from
the
pool
going
to
the
tennis
court
in
between
buildings,
one
and
three.
C
So
that
gives
you
all
of
the
surrounding
pool
area
as
character,
defining
open
space,
whether
it's
20
feet
or
less
or
you
know
more
than
20
feet
like
it
could
be
30
feet.
Who
knows?
But
I
think
that
is
the
area
that
makes
the
most
sense
to
preserve
a
character
defining
space,
and
I
would
amend
that
on
building
one.
We
not
include
the
back
of
the
house,
meaning
the
delivery
area,
the
kitchen
and
so
forth.
Just
the
public
access
areas.
A
Okay,
now,
mrs
dixon,
do
you
agree
the
maker.
E
A
D
B
B
In
in
the
historic
resources
report
by
hrg,
there
are
two
photos
of
the:
what
would
be
this
south
west
elevations
of
the
clubhouse?
B
Do
you
guys
have
that
information
before
you.
D
B
B
C
Thank
you
for
that
in
vintage
card
photographs
from
the
1940s.
It
shows
that
poolside
facade
of
the
clubhouse
as
having
an
overhang,
so
some
of
that
overhang
is
very
likely
to
be
original
to
the
30s
and
40s.
C
I
have
no
doubt
that
it
was
modified
over
the
years
and
added
onto,
but
that's
not
for
us
to
determine
at
this
particular
moment.
I
do
believe
that
the
round
part
in
the
rear
of
the
clubhouse
building
it
almost
looks
like
an
octagon
and
then
it
has
that
raised
toggle
a
bit.
That
is
a
character
defining
feature
of
the
architecture
and
very
reminiscent
of
what
was
being
built
around
here
in
the
30s
and
40s.
C
So
I
think
it's
important
that
the
pool-facing
side
of
that
building,
as
well
as
the
roof
line
and
even
the
indian
canyon
facing
facade,
are
the
elements
that
are
considered
the
character,
defining
element
of
that
building
in
terms
of
the
facade
now,
because
the
other
side
which
is
north
facing
was
never
really
seen
by
the
public,
except
maybe
when
you
were
driving
down
indian
and
then
pulling
in,
but
that
was
kind
of
the
service
area.
Where
you
know
the
deliveries
were
made
and
they
kept
dirty
linens
and
that
kind
of
thing.
C
B
J
A
A
So
the
motion
is
approved
for
four
to
four
four
two,
four.
A
Okay,
so
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
number
three:
it's
unfinished
business,
which
there
is
none
so
next
is
new
business
for
a
so
4a
is,
is
the
paul
nehali
jr
and
michael
martin,
who
are
owners
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
all
three.
B
Madam
chair,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you.
You
do
have
a
item
4a,
which
is
the
pearson
residence.
A
Oh,
I
skipped
I'm
sorry
I'm
so
I
did
skip
that,
I'm
so
eager
to
I'm
so
eager
to
move
on.
I'm
sorry,
I
skipped
that
I
beg
your
pardon
okay
4a,
so
so
with
the
roswetha
kima
smail
owner
requesting
class
one
historic
site,
designation
of
the
henry
pearson
residence
located
at
573
north
korea
drive.
A
D
A
Mr
rose
now
second,
so
huff
motion
rose
now.
Second,
is
there
a
discussion
about
the
this
residence.
B
A
And
anybody
opposed
so
the
motion
passes
four
two
four:
now
we
are
going
to
proceed
to
item
4b,
so
paul
nachapali,
jr
and
michael
martin
owners
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
alterations
to
the
good
low
residence,
also
known
as
the
casablanca
adobe
located
at
590.
South
indian
trail
so
may
have
a
staff
report.
Please.
B
As
noted
in
this
particular
application,
the
homeowners
are
requesting
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
alterations
to
a
class
1
historic
site.
The
scope
of
those
modifications
are
the
installation
of
a
natural
stone,
driveway
and
pathways
leading
up
to
the
existing
garage
into
the
existing
front
entrance
of
the
home,
the
installation
of
a
new
pedestrian
entry
feature
at
the
corner
of
the
property
and
the
construction
of
a
small
outdoor
fire
pit
and
seating
area
adjacent
to
the
front
of
the
house.
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
lyon.
So
are
there
any
questions
of
the
staff
before
we
invite
our
applicants
to
make
a
comment?
Any
mr
nelson.
C
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
appropriate
question
for
staff,
but
I
remember
the
property
before
it
was
designated
and
it
was
always
open
and
very
visible
and
the
owners
before
the
current
owner,
put
in
the
burgundy
hatch,
which
completely
shields
the
house,
although
you
can
still
see
the
house
from
the
front
gate
where
the
plaque
is
located.
C
C
B
C
So
that's
my
my
one
point
to
staff.
Is
that
the
again,
if
the
association
of
feelings,
the
original
context
of
the
setting,
that
was
a
very
kind
of
informal
neighborhood,
so
to
speak,
and
it
was
very
open
and
casual
and
part
of
that
whole
experience
in
that
tract
at
the
time
it
was
built
with
the
open-air
palm
springs
lifestyle
granted
it's
a
very
different
city.
Today,
it's
no
longer
a
small
village
or
a
town
and
it's
built
up.
B
In
considering
the
corner
feature,
we
looked
at
what
we
believed
were
the
character,
defining
features
of
the
home
and
the
corner
feature
impacts
the
perimeter
wall,
a
portion
of
the
perimeter
wall
would
need
to
be
removed
in
order
to
put
this
entry
feature
in
the
perimeter,
wall
is
not
identified
as
a
character
dividing
feature
of
the
site
in
the
original
staff
reports
that
the
goodloe
residence
was
considered
under.
It
was
talked
about
that
the
perimeter
wall
was
probably
from
the
period
of
significance,
but
that
had
not
been
well
maintained
or
was
not
in
good
condition.
B
So
when
we
evaluated
this
again,
we
recognize
that
the
proposal
is
altering
the
site.
No
question
about
that.
We're
not
arguing
that
what
we're
saying
is
that
the
proposed
alterations
do
not
materially
impair
the
character,
defining
features
of
the
site,
and
that's
the
distinction
on
this
particular
application.
B
That's
before
you,
if
the
work
that
was
being
done
was
to
enclose
the
front,
porch
or
open
a
breezeway
or
remove
a
portion
or
add
a
portion,
you
would
want
to
carefully
consider
whether
those
types
of
proposals
would
materially
impair
the
character,
defining
features
of
this
site,
and
our
findings
were
that
the
proposed
items
that
are
being
requested
here
do
not
do
that.
Yes,
they
do
change
the
overall
configuration
and
features
of
the
site,
but
they
still
respect
the
importance
of
the
architecture
and
the
overall
feeling
of
the
site
with
respect
to
the
landscape.
B
You
know
most
of
our
desert
floor
was
barren
with
creosote,
and
you
know
a
few
scrub,
bushes
and
so
on.
So
in
1934
in
the
night
early
1930s,
when
this
track
was
subdivided
and
the
land
sold
off
and
buildings
constructed.
Certainly
this
was
pretty
open
space
with
not
many
trees
and
not
much
shrubbery.
B
Today,
90
years
later
or
more,
we
see
mature
plant
material,
but
I
don't
think
that
the
proposed
scope
of
work
again
damages
that
part
of
this
site,
which
is
historically
significant
as
it
relates
to
the
public's
ability
to
see
this
historic
site.
B
B
So
I
totally
understand
and
respect
your
concern
about
obscuring
the
views
from
the
public
way,
but
I
think
that
there
still
are
there
still
is
the
ability
to
the
home
to
understand
its
overall
exterior
and
its
vernacular
architecture,
and
that
the
proposed
work
that
is
being
requested
by
the
applicants
is
not
unreasonable.
A
Thank
you,
mr
lyon.
Mr
nelson,
another
question.
C
Quickly
respond
to
that.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
understand.
I
appreciate
where
you're
coming
from
and
absolutely
it
all
makes
sense,
no
question
I
would
just
maybe
it
doesn't
hurt
to
just
ask
the
owner
to
possibly
consider
that
back
in
the
day
when
people
did
have
bougainvillea,
it
would
grow
over
a
lower
wall
and
kind
of
cascade
and
tumble
over,
and
that
is
part
of
the
association
of
feeling
of
that
kind
of
a
adobe,
bungalow
style
home.
C
The
way
it
is
now
the
the
bugambilia
breeze
was
a
very
tall
hedge
and
it's
very
severely
pruned,
which
is
more
along
the
lines
of
what
you
might
do
with
the
biker's
hedge.
So
just
throwing
that
out
there
just
so.
You
know
there
are
old
postcards
that
show
how
it
used
to
look,
but
I
digress.
C
A
Any
other
questions
for
staff:
are
there
any
other
questions
anyone
so
so
I
want
to
thank
the
homeowners
for
providing
us
with
a
a
wonderful,
very
understandable
presentation
on
what
they
are
proposing.
A
I
want
to
thank
you
for
making
it
so
easy
for
us
to
understand,
and
now
I
would
like
to
welcome
and
invite
any
comments
that
you
would
like
to
have.
H
We
are
the
property
owners,
paul
newpoly
and
michael
martin,
and
we
really
just
wanted
to
check
in
everybody
to
fill
with
any
questions
that
you
guys
may
have.
We
appreciate
your
diligence,
especially
seeing
one
of
these
meetings
for
the
first
time
ever,
a
lot
of
hard
work
goes
into
it.
So
thank
you
on
behalf
of
everybody.
H
Now
we
can
say,
we've
binge
watched
a
board
meeting,
but
thank
you
much
in
respect
to
what's
being
discussed.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that,
yes,
that
is
our
general
feeling
with
regards
to
the
booga
via
hedge
and
also
wanted
to
just
call
out,
and
so
there
wasn't
any
confusion
that
the
addition
of
a
corner
entrance
would
not
in
any
way
take
away
from
the
existing
entrance
already
on
south
indian
trail.
So
it's
actually
an
additional
entrance
which
may
provide
more
vantage
points
of
the
house.
That's
actually
the
intent.
H
If
you
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
drawings
with
the
gates,
it's
actually
to
to
be
able
to
see
through
that
gate
and
have
a
better
approach
point.
You
know
we
do
get
passerbys
and
we
do
have
a
little
like
you
lose
and
we
invite
that
we
enjoy
that
and
we
have
conversations
with
us
and
we're
out
front
and
they
they
engage
us
and
we
engage
them
and
we're
proud
of
that,
and
we
actually
think
that
this
is
an
additional
opportunity
to
take
in
casablanca
ability.
So
hopefully
that's
understood.
A
Thank
you
for
that
insight.
Are
there
any
questions
for
the
applicants?
Anyone
wish
to
ask
another
question.
F
A
E
A
Thank
you,
thank
you,
so
any
other,
mr
lyon,.
H
I
think
ken
gets
a
kick
out
of
this
and
it's
obviously
hard
to
digest
in
a
seated
zoom
perspective,
but
you'll
notice
that
the
two
columns
that
we
have
proposed
are
slightly
incongruous
or
different
heights,
and
they
would
directly
be
slightly
different
in
widths,
one
being
six
eight,
because
that
is
my
height
and
one
being
six
foot,
because
that
is
michael's
height.
So
it's
our
sort
of
not
to
ourself
here
theoretically
on
the
poverty
line,
it's
from
our
welcoming
to
casablanca
adobe,
but
that's
insider
trading.
So
we'll
keep
that
here.
H
A
Secret
secrets,
so
if
there
are
no
other
further
merit
discussions,
may
I
have
j?
Mr
nelson,
you
again.
C
Not
really
a
question,
but
just
a
comment.
If
it
hadn't
been
said,
this
is
the
best
hormone
application
we've
ever
received.
C
H
You
all,
and
thank
you
ken
for
really
helping
to
to
allow
us
to
bring
this
to
you
guys,
welcome.
A
Thank
you,
may
I
have
a
motion.
E
F
A
So
mrs
dixon
made
the
motion,
and
mr
rose
now
did
a
second
on
that,
and
so
is
there
any
further
discussion
regarding
the
motions?
A
H
A
So
so
let
us
proceed
to
two
discussions
on
the
annual
work
plan
for
2000
slash
2021.
May
we
have
a
staff
report.
Please.
B
Yes,
madam
chair,
as
you
know,
at
your
september
meeting,
we
brought
to
you
the
priorities
list
that
the
board
had
enumerated
in
the
survey
that
you
sent
back
to
me
through
the
month
of
august
and
in
your
packet
is
a
single
page
memo
from
me
which
identifies
the
prioritization
that
you
were
you
all
gave
to
these
various
candidate
sites,
and
so
your
your
question
today
on
this
is:
do
you
want
to
identify
any
of
these
as
your
work
plan
priorities
for
the
fiscal
year
2021?
A
A
The
order
of
preference
yep,
I
agree
with
that.
Okay,
any
other
questions,
discussions
or
comments
about
that
plan.
B
I'm
sorry,
madam
chair,
why
don't
we
do
this
as
a
quick,
formal
action
or
in
the
form
of
emotion?
Okay,
accept
this
as
your
work
plan.
A
Okay,
so
may
we
have
a
motion?
A
A
All
in
favor
we
are
passing
this
emotion,
four
to
four.
So
the
next
item
is
4b.
5B.
Excuse
me
by
the
conference
planning
fast
forward.
Designing
the
future
of
palm
springs
wow.
This
is
coming
up,
so
dick
croquette
and
his
very
committed
and
talented
experts
have
developed
an
extensive
online
experience
for
the
paul
fall
preview
modernism
week
with
streaming
will
begin
on
october.
A
15Th.
That's
like
next
week.
Isn't
it
the
program
is
dis,
described
and
stream
tickets
will
be
available
from
modernism
week
website
the
program
you
can
kind
of
watch
it
at
your
own
pace,
beginning
on
that
date
and
they'll.
There's
three
segments
two
hours,
each
it's
very
exciting
and
and
and
they've
worked
really
hard
all
over
all
summer
long
working
hard
meetings,
meetings
meetings,
so
we
have
to
thank
dick
and
his
wonderful
committee
for
putting
together
this
really
great
conference
planning,
it's
very
exciting.
A
C
Get
out
to
that
as
well,
and
just
to
thank
you
all
for
all
of
your
patience.
C
You
owe
us,
I
think
we
got
through
it
and
I
think
it
was
the
right
discussion
to
have
and
I'm
glad
that
we
had
it
tonight
and
we
didn't
postpone.
It
was
the
right
thing
to
do.
I
think
we
all
felt
in
our
gut.
The
only
other
comment
I
have
to
make
very
quickly
is
that
I
have
done
some
research
on
dorothy,
good
luck,
which
ken
lyon
asked
me
to
do,
and
I
will
be
sending
that
research
research
to
him
privately
at
some
time
before
the
next
meeting.
C
B
A
And
I'd
like
to
add,
this
has
been
a
really
great
meeting
and
I
appreciate
all
your
thoughtful
participation
and
and
compelling
passion
in
in
historical
resources
for
palm
springs
and
now
staff
comments.
May
we
have
mr
lyon.
B
My
only
question
for
the
board
is:
if
you
will
look
at
the
very
bottom
of
your
agenda
today,
you
will
see
that
it's
recommending
that
you
adjourn
to
a
date
certain
of
wednesday
november
4th
your
november
meeting
falls
on
tuesday
november
3rd,
which
is
election
day,
and
we
assumed
that
most
people
would
not
want
to
be
doing
hsb
work
on
election
day.
B
So
we've
proposed
that
your
november
meeting
be
shifted
to
wednesday
november
4th,
and
if
that
works
for
all
of
you,
just
let
us
know,
and
we
will
plan
on
moving
the
agenda
forward.
A
Well,
it's
been
three
hours
and
eight
minutes,
and
now
it's
time
to
adjourn
the
historic
site.
Preservation
board
will
adjourn
to
its
regularly
scheduled
meeting
on
wednesday
november
4
2020
at
5,
30
p.m
and
we'll
see
you
then
thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.