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A
D
E
F
H
I'm
Peter
Rooney
I'm,
representing
the
Palm,
Springs
and
modern
committee
today,
dick
Burkett
was
unable
to
make
it
so
he
had
sent
me
an
email
summarizing.
Your
last
meetings,
I
kind
of
loved
up-to-date
on
what's
going
on,
but
he
said
there
was
a
question,
some
uncertainty
as
to
whether
the
library
is
a
purely
a
Cody
design
and
whether
or
not
it
was
staff
or
Cody
himself.
So
he
spoke
with
Sidney
Williams,
formerly
of
the
architecture
and
design
Center
for
the
museum,
and
he
said
he
wrote
her
opinion
is.
H
That
is
definitely
Cody's
work
for
the
design
which
probably
was
finalized
by
staff,
but
that
he
should
be
given
full
credit.
Now
we're
doing
some
additional
research.
Gonna.
Probably
talk
to
some
of
the
people
who
worked
with
him
to
you
know
really
try
to
button
this
up.
But
at
this
point
we're
under
the
we're
going
to
work
under
the
auspices
of
that
this
is
a
Cody
design,
South
Plains.
I
This
is
a
microphone
all
right.
Oh
dear
okay,
my
name
is
Christine
makaula
I'm
a
twenty
year,
Palm
Springs
resident
retired
school
nurse
and
a
member
of
the
board
of
Friends
of
the
library
but
I
speaking
here
tonight
very
nervously
because
I
want
to
represent
an
underrepresented
group.
That
I
feel
is
underrepresented
in
this
dialogue
and
that's
a
library
user
which
I
am
I.
Have
two
books
currently
checked
out.
I
come
to
the
programs
here,
I'm
a
member
of
a
book
club
and
to
my
thinking
the
library
is
a
big
success.
I
I
think
you
do
an
incredible
job.
Jeannie
and
your
entire
staff
does
an
incredible
job.
This
library
rocks
it
has
everything
I
need
a
library
to
be,
and
so
I'm
one
user
of
the
library,
a
retired
school
nurse.
But
there
are
many
others
of
all
ages
and
I
Drive
to
the
library,
as
many
of
you
do
but
I
know
because
I
volunteered
at
summer
reading
for
six
weeks
this
summer,
that
many
of
our
patrons
they
come
in
all
different
ways.
I
They
take
the
bus,
yeah
people,
take
the
bus
families,
take
the
bus
from
Desert
Hot
Springs
to
come
here
for
summer
reading
for
their
kids,
so
they
get
their
free
books
that
we
had
over
what
fifteen
hundred
and
sixty-six
people
in
our
summer
reading
program.
That's
a
success,
adults,
children
and
teens,
and
they
can
some.
I
Somebody
talked
at
the
last
meeting
I
attended
about
how
the
mothers
come
with
all
the
little
kids
and
there
would
be
one
designated
adult
who
would
bring
their
children,
their
nieces
and
nephews,
their
neighbors
children,
their
friends,
children
and
the
place
was
packed
with
joyous
people
getting
their
free
books
and
having
a
wonderful
time.
This
libraries
is
a
success.
It
works,
it
ain't,
broke
and
I
think,
and
it's
only
getting
better.
Every
year
I
cut
my
car
people
come
by
bus
and
many
people
walk.
I
There's
a
man,
I'm
told
is
a
hundred
and
four
years
old
who
comes
here
every
day
on
his
Walker
from
assisted
living
across
the
street,
sits
down
at
the
table
and
does
some
string
theory
or
something
like
to
try
to
see
what
he's
doing
and
goes
home
for.
Lunch
comes
back
and
spends
all
day
here
there,
groups
that
come
and
play
chess
here.
There
are
people,
so
he
walks
here
with
a
walker.
You
can
walk
here
from
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club.
You
can
walk
here
from
the
Mizell
Senior
Center.
I
You
can
walk
here
from
Palm
Springs,
High
School.
You
can
walk
here
from
Starbucks
in
the
Ralphs
Center.
You
can
walk
here
from
what
Wilma
sue
me
college
of
the
desert,
and
so
it's
a
very
accessible
sight
for
the
people
who
use
it
and
I
I
want
to
speak
for
them
and
I
hope.
Other
people
will
hear
about
these
meetings
and
come
speak
for
them
because
we
like
it
here,
I'm
I,
want
to
just
renovate
and
expand
a
library.
I
J
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Steve
Rosenberg
and
I've
had
the
privilege
of
serving
on
the
Airport
Commission,
the
mr.
Jay
Commission,
and
the
administrative
review
board,
so
I've
been
very
active
in
a
lot
of
things
within
our
community
main
reason.
I'm
here
today
is
because
I
grew
up
in
a
library
and
it
wasn't
a
latchkey
kind
of
thing.
J
They
had
some
maps
as
well
and
then
it
began
to
evolve
and
we
began
to
see
libraries
that
had
healthy
records
that
they
would
loan
you
and
later
VCR
tapes,
video
discs
where
we're
at
today.
What
are
the
newer
things
that
has
come
to
library,
spaces,
our
maker
spaces
and
I
yeah
I
see
several
nods,
so
I'm
glad
that
I
don't
get
the
usual
blank.
Look
when
I
mention
that
term,
whatever
facilities
come
out
of
this
whole
series
of
events,
whether
it
be
in
this
building
or
another
building
or
whatever
I,
really
think.
J
Not
every
kid
goes
to
college
when
you
stall
to
how
many
of
you
took
shout
class
when
you
know
or
home
back
when
you
were
in
school,
yeah
sending
everyone
and
that
stuff's
been
lost,
makerspaces,
really
bringing
it
back
and
indeed
in
modern
ways
with
modern
tools
and
equipment.
So
I
just
want
that
to
sort
of
be
in
everyone's
mind
as
we
move
forward,
but
this
is
something
that
we're
not
doing
today.
It
could
be
as
simple
as
lending
out
tools,
but
it
could
be
as
complex
as
a
whole.
J
K
K
It's
unclear
to
me
whether
what
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
replace
the
library
or
to
have
another
facility.
That
would
be
something
I
would
like
to
have
made
clear.
The
other
question
I
have
is
I,
have
a
sense
with
this
process
that
there's
a
predetermined
outcome
and
I.
Don't
like
that
feeling.
You
know
that
you're
going
through
the
motions,
yet
you
already
know
what
you're
doing
the
other
question
is,
or
you
already
know
what's
going
to
happen
at
the
end.
K
K
Oh
one
other
comment:
I
I
did
hear
that
one
of
the
reasons
for
doing
this
was
that
the
building
needed
to
be
updated,
repaired.
Mechanical
things
don't
work
like
they
should
Plumbing
Heating
blah
blah
blah.
But
if
you
went
and
built
a
new
building,
then
if
this
was
going
to
be
used
for
something
those
same
expenses
would
have
to
be
to
make
it
useful.
B
Thank
you,
part
of
arcade,
so
you
don't
remember
that
we
were
working
up
to
this
meeting
where
we
hope
to
finalize
the
criteria
and
the
consideration
for
the
sites
that
have
been
presented
to
us
by
City
Council
for
evaluation.
So
today's
meeting
is
pretty
critical
for
us
to
establish
what
we're
going
to
use
and
last
time
we
met.
We
work
through
some
national
or
some
I
will
say
national,
that
some
standards
that
have
been
used
by
other
libraries
and
then
we
had
input
into
what's
important
to
our
communities.
B
So
today,
we're
going
to
revisit
that
and
I
saw
our
one
chance
to
maybe
modify
that
and
by
the
way,
I
feel
like
as
we
get
through
this
process.
We
might
learn
some
things
that
be
you'll
probably
want
to
revisit
these
considerations,
as
well
as
just
members
of
the
public
and
what
we
might
hear
from
the
community,
but
first
of
all
we're
going
to
look
at
site
criteria
and
some
of
the
information
that
we
did
last
time
and
so
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
our
consultants.
Tell
me
Jane.
E
I'm,
the
one
that
we're
going
to
discuss
versus
the
one
that
chart
that
says
library,
psych
evaluation-
these
are
the
criteria
that
Ed
was
referring
to.
Yes,
they're,
taken
as
a
whole,
are
more
objective
than
the
site.
Considerations.
I,
think
the
considerations
are
a
little
bit
more
subjective,
as
you
all
look
at
all
of
the
sites,
but
they're
our
questions
that
kept
coming
up
that
we
would
hear
about
about
the
various
sites.
So
we
decided
to
make
a
list
of
those
these
additional
considerations.
Just
for
you
to
have,
as
you
evaluate
the
site,.
G
Michael
I
can
answer
that
sure
the
criteria
are,
as
Johnny
said,
more
objective,
so
at
the
end
of
the
process,
as
you
say,
we
could
make
a
check
mark
on
these.
That
might
be
a
way
of
saying.
Objectively,
we
looked
at
the
sites
that
were
options,
and
you
know
looking
at
basic
criteria
from
other
libraries
and
the
criteria
that
the
committee
identified
it
looks
like
this
option.
B
should
be,
is
our
preference,
the
more
objective
preference,
but
there
are
there's
much
more
to
influence
that
final
decision
than
just
objective
crisis.
G
There
are
other
considerations
that
are
much
more
subjective.
That
I
think
it
would
be
unrealistic
not
to
think
that
those
aren't
going
to
be
part
of
your
consideration
when
you
make
your
final
statement
so
the
process
we
really
wanted
to
have
it
come
down
to
not
just
an
emotional
go
we'd
like
to
have
a
big
shining
of
a
library
downtown,
or
we
just
think
that
you
know.
Why
would
we
change
in
the
site?
Why
can't
we
build
on
where
we
are,
because
there
are
so
many
good
things?
G
E
E
E
So
we
did
that
listened
to
your
comments
and
we
did
that
and
then
we
also
had
a
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
about.
Are
there
criteria
that
our
Palm
Springs
specific
that
maybe
we're
not
going
to
find
a
list?
If
you
go
to
a
search
of
criteria,
libraries
used
when
they're
deciding
on
a
site-
maybe
you
won't
find
these
particular
ones
there,
but
there
were
things
that
the
this
group
came
up
with,
and
so
we
added
those
as
the
Palm
Springs
specific
criteria.
I
did
want
to
make.
What
take
one
note
mentioned
this?
E
We
did
talk
last
time
about
making
sure
that
the
site
could
accommodate
a
building
of
a
particular
size,
and
the
size
we
discussed
was
one
square
foot
per
capita,
which
is
not
an
unusual
goal
for
a
library
system
to
have,
though,
certainly
all
library
systems
don't
attain
that.
But
when
you
look
at
the
size
of
your
community
and
when
this
library
was
built
and
when
it
was
expanded
and
the
size
of
the
population,
that's
a
size
that
this
community
is
used
to
you're
used
to
having
that
kind.
That
kind
of
space
in
your
library.
E
What
we
didn't
talk
about
was
the
population
during
what
year?
What
are
you
basing
that
one
foot
per
capita
so
it
without
knowing
what
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
the
population
that
still
doesn't
tell
you
what
size
the
building
is
going
to
be
so
I
looked
at
where
you're
looking
to
be
at
around
around
2040
2030
2040,
and
that's
where
I
came
up
with
50
to
60,000
square
feet.
E
You
take
it
into
consideration,
but
you
don't
necessarily
that
might
be
why
you've
been
at
such
a.
You
know
at
a
pretty
good
size,
building
for
the
size
population
that
you
have,
but
you
don't
generally,
a
community
doesn't
generally
base
that
size
on
what
their
temporary
population
is.
They
base
it
on
what
their
permanent
population
is
and
then
add
to
that
depending
on
you
know
what
it
looks
like
for
their
temporary
population.
Some
places
don't
have
that
temporary
population
for
the
same
length
of
time
either.
E
So
again,
these
are
all
just
one
consideration,
but
it
gives
you
something
to
look
at
when
you're
looking
at
a
site
and
trying
to
envision
okay,
we've
told
you
how
large
the
sites
are.
What
would
60,000
square
feet?
Look
like
on
this
site,
rather
than
just
looking
at
a
site
and
giving
the
numbers
to
know
how
big
it
is
and
that
that
really
not
you
know
it
doesn't
give
you
a
whole
lot
of
context.
So
it
gives
you
some
sense.
E
I
would
be
surprised
if
you
wanted
to
look
at
a
building
that
was
much
smaller
than
60,000
square
feet.
You
have
looking
at
where
your
population
is
going
and
looking
the
robust
use
of
the
library,
the
programming
that
is
done
at
the
library
and
the
fact
that
you
have
the
population
surge
at
some
times
of
the
year.
That's
a
logical
number
to
to
look
at
I
would
know,
and
it's
a
number
you've
looked
at
in
the
past.
E
I'm
not
going
to
met
a
fan
of
reading
things
to
groups
of
people,
so
I
know
everyone
around
the
table
has
looked
at
these.
What
really
this
is
your
time
to
help
us
make
any
changes,
make
any
suggestions,
but
tonight
we
needed
to
decide
that
these
are
the
criteria.
Vote
on
that
and
then
move
forward
from
that.
E
E
B
C
B
Get
into
its
much
detail
as
as
we
enter
the
first
group
right,
maybe
we
take
the
time
to
go
through
the
palm
spray
showing
one
just
to
make
sure
this
reflects.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
Palm
Spring
specific
criteria.
So
let's
have
the
committee,
if
you
don't
mind,
lead
us
through
that
discussion.
B
E
E
Many
people
look
to
their
public
library
as
whether
they
use
the
public
library
or
not.
They
pointed
out
to
other
people
as
saying
that's
where
my
tax
dollars
go,
that's
an
important
building
in
this
community
and
they
it
says
something
about
the
community,
whether
they
ever
walk
into
it
or
not.
I've
seen
it
over
and
over
again,
so
we
had
some
discussion
last
time
about.
E
The
site
is
enhanced
by
the
surrounding
environment,
so
the
surrounding
environment
doesn't
take
away
from
the
library,
but
it
makes
the
library
site
a
richer
place,
a
place
that
is
more
even
more
conducive
to
being
a
public
library.
The
idea
of
it
aligns
with
the
city's
projected
development,
so
looking
at
where
the
city
is
developing
and
how
its
developing
is.
This
library,
then
in
a
site
that
makes
sense
for
I,
mean
the
main
library
in
Palm
Springs.
E
The
accessibility
we
just
talked
about
the
next
one.
That
city
has
control
of
the
library
and
the
three
sites
that
are
currently
in
under
consideration
are
all
controlled
by
the
city.
The
site
will
accommodate
a
building
of
one
square
foot
per
capita
and,
finally,
that
the
site
is
accessible
from
all
areas
of
the
city
and
it
means
are
there,
you
know.
Are
there
variety
of
ways
for
people
to
get
there?
Can
they
can
they
get
there
easily
from
a
number
of
different
directions,
because
that
was
something
else
that
we
talked
about?
E
Is
it
in
a
place
that
makes
it
easy
for
the
people
to
get
to
it,
no
matter
where
they
live,
because
even
if
you
have
down
the
road
other
libraries
and
not
just
the
one
library
or
a
main
library,
you
will
find
that
people
will
use
the
main
library
and
to
get
their
libraries.
They
won't
just
not
use
the
main
library
just
because
they
have
a
branch
library
near
them.
There
are
things
they'll
go
to
that
main
library
for,
and
so,
whenever
you
build
a
main
library,
you
look
at
that
consideration.
E
D
L
M
Amazing
side,
but
is
not
owned
by
the
city,
and
there
have
to
do
some
trade
off
and
they
have
to
get
some
legal
agreements
and
they
have
to
park
on
adjacent
lot
where
they
need
to
also
have
a
share
easement,
and
so
by
the
time
they
finish
just
the
legal
part,
it's
already
two
years
and
then
we're
able
to
now
start
the
programming.
So
we
mainly
looking
at
six
years
from
now
before
we
can
have
a
girl
in
college.
Oh
there's,
another.
E
Would
in
response
to
that,
I
would
suggest
that
one
it's
hard
to
know
what
that
time
is
going
to
be,
because
until
someone
starts
construction
on
a
site,
you're
not
quite
sure
what
might
be
there,
and
so
that's
you
know
always
a
surprise.
We
were
building
the
main
library
in
Tucson.
Where
are
you
still
live?
Didn't
know
there
was
a
gravesite
under
there,
so
everything
stopped
for
quite
a
while.
So
there
are
some
things
you're
not
going
to
know
the.
E
Things
change
around
you
all
of
a
sudden
there's,
you
know
huge
increases
in
in
the
cost
of
building
materials,
so
you
go
back
and
you
rethink
the
design
of
this
library,
and
that
takes
time,
and
so,
while
I
agree
that
there
are
certain
things
that
you
might
know,
that
would
extend
that
time.
There
are
also
those
things
you
don't
know
that
could
extend
that
time
and
so
I
wouldn't
use
that,
as
certainly
as
a
sole
criteria.
M
E
M
E
M
M
For
example,
they
Co
D
site.
There
is
another
partner
that
right:
okay,
they're
on
the
downtown
Snyder,
various
the
fact
that
we
have
to
go
vertical
right
and
then
on
this
side,
there's
the
fact
that
we
have
to
have
temporary
building
or
we
may
build
a
new
one.
So
I
think
the
time
issue
may
be
at
the
end
of
it
is
Net
Zero
game
all
of
them,
but
the
the
relationship
and
the
legal
status
of
each
of
the
sites.
Ma'am.
E
Whatever
and
before
you
decide
on
that,
the
other
thing
I
would
I
would
say.
As
I
said,
there
were
two
things.
The
other
thing
is
you're,
building
a
library,
that's
going
to
be
there
for
a
long
time.
This
library
is
43
years
old.
I
would
caution
you
against
picking
one
site
over
another,
because
it's
going
to
take
an
extra
year
and
a
half
or
two
years.
D
D
G
But
the
reason
the
attendant
considerations
and
not
in
the
basic
criteria
is
it's.
It's
almost
impossible
to
not
consider
that
something
should
be
attractive
to
funders.
You
know
if
you
were
if
one
of
your
options
was
decided
next
to
you,
know
gas
station
and
some
other
buildings
that
are
not
complementary
to
a
public
library.
It
would
be
foolish
not
to
consider
them.
You
know,
you're,
not
gonna,
get
a
funder
to
to
want
to
underwrite
a
building
that
is
got
a
negative
situation,
so
I
think
it.
It
should
be
considered.
It's
not
a
basic
criteria
so.
N
But
if
you
find
I
think
it's
something
to
keep
in
consideration
because
it
may
well
be
that
a
given
site
that
you
come
up
with
is
something
that
is
potentially
very
attractive
to
to
the
development
community,
so
I
I
would
I
would
make
it
a
consideration
that
helps
everything.
I
have
just
one.
That
I
would
add
that
I
don't
see
here.
That
I
think
is
unique
to
Palm
Springs.
We
are
a
destination
community
people
come
to
visit,
Palm
Springs
and
they
come
for
a
variety
of
reasons.
N
Do
we
want
the
library
to
be
one
of
those
reasons
that
you
visit
Palm
Springs?
Do
we
want
it
to
be
a
library
that,
when
you
are
here,
you
have
I'm
supposed
to
go
to
the
tram
I'm
supposed
to
see
the
Palm
Springs
library
I'm
supposed
to
do
and
you
we
can
all
fill
in
the
blanks?
But
and
what
would
that
look
like?
And
my
last
one
that
I'll
throw?
Is
this
very
specific
to
Palm
Springs?
We
have
an
incredible
architectural
heritage
here
and
the
library
has
to
be
reflective
of
that
architecture.
L
So
I
hear
exactly
what
we're
saying:
they
understand
the
thing
about
attractive
people
who
are
vibrant,
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
away
from
the
system.
Community
Library
to
serve
our
community
I
love
the
idea.
It
would
be
something
that
people
would
look
forward
to
when
they
come
to
our
city
to
visit,
but
I
feel
that
that's
you
know
way
far
ahead
in
the
design.
L
So
right
now
we're
just
looking
for
a
site
and
I
feel
like
we
need
to
be
more
focused
on
site
and
if
we
start
thinking
about
the
design,
which
is
wonderful
and
I'm
sure
that
whoever
does
a
design
is
gonna,
be
amazing,
because
we
are
that
kind
of
city,
so
I
think
the
design,
no
matter
where
we
build
it.
That
design.
That's
gonna,
draw
the
people
that
visit
us,
but
I
feel
like
we
need
to
stay
focused
on
location,
because
that's
our
task
by
task
is
the
location
and
design.
L
F
O
In
a
really
simple
way,
I
think
anything
we
build
has
to
compare
to
at
least
compared
to
Rancho
Mirage
being
very
simple,
that
building
the
building
the
location,
the
design,
the
layout
attracts
people
and
I
know
my
first
library
card
in
the
desert,
even
though
I
lived
here
was
there
well
and
I
just
I
just
throw
that
out
so
I
think
we
have
and
I
don't
know
that
any
of
the
locations
we
have
compared
to
the
location
they.
So
it's
just
something
that
we
need
to.
D
O
O
O
D
O
L
L
D
O
L
O
A
B
What
I
just
heard,
though,
is
we
went
down?
I
tried
to
make
a
Rancho
Mirage
light
for
a
beautiful.
We
have
covered
what
I
just
heard
from
the
term.
Aggression
is
down,
and
that
is
politically
very
personal
criteria.
So
it's
highly
visible
the
majority
of
all
directions:
sighted,
some
immediate
adjacent
to
frequent
travel
streets
and
roads.
Correct
I
mean
that's
what
we
heard
remember
programming
at
this
point:
it's
not
our
charge!
M
Yeah
I
like
to
circle
back
to
what
he
says
they
about
the
architecture
and
I
know
that
in
the
future.
But
as
soon
as
you
said
that
I
static
meteorite,
for
example,
this
year,
they're
gonna
have
their
style.
They're
gonna
have
their
flavor.
So
if
they
allow
us
to
build
our
library,
is
it
going
to
be
a
standalone
look
at
me
by
myself,
or
are
they
going
to
be
converted
to
what
to
the
right?
But
it's
not.
D
M
B
M
So
architectural
II
is
it
again
going
to
be
like
I'm
gonna
knock
you
out
of
the
park
and
I'm
going
to
be
even
kind
of
livering
on
steel
columns
that
are
arching,
because
I
need
to
be
something
that
is
recognizable
compared
to
everything
that
else
that's
going
on,
or
is
it
gonna
be
hard
one
years
where,
if
you
have,
for
example,
the
library
site
this
night?
Now,
how
are
you
going
harmonious
with
the
bill?
Cody
historically
challenged
ability
so
I
think
each
of
it
depending
on
where
is
where
is
situated
and
what
is
surrounded?
C
Is
I,
don't
think
it
has
to
do
this
style?
I
think
it
has
to
do
with
site
limitations
to
them,
architecture
and
I.
Think
any
site
obviously
has
its
own
limitations,
so
I
think
if
we
could
just
say,
maybe
what
are
the
citations
and
that
would
then
allow
us
to
evaluate
which
ones
might
be
more
important
than
other
limitations
list.
Every
site
is
going
to
have
a
limitation,
so
let's
put
it
on
a
table
and
then
we
could
look
at
them
in
rank.
Well,
this
is
a
limitation,
but
it
doesn't
matter.
C
M
E
That's
where
you're
going
to
have
your
discussion
about
it,
but
yes,
you'll
have
that
you'll
have
time
throughout
the
process
for
that
discussion
and
agreement,
and
then
what
you,
the
goal
is
to
not
just
name
one
site
but
to
if
there's
more
than
one
appropriate
site
to
rank
those
sites,
so
that
what
you
would
be
turning
in
as
thank
you
know
we
we
could
see
this
one
to
this
one.
This
one
is
the
site
we'd
like
to
see
first
and
here's
the
second
place,
one.
E
And
I
would
hope
do
that
right
now
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
information
about
college
of
the
desert.
You're
right
we
were
able
to
give
you
some
information
about
the
other
two
sites,
but
hopefully,
by
the
time
you
have
that
discussion
about
that
particular
site
you'll
be
able
to
have
more
information
about
it.
C
You
know
those
homeless.
People
are
not
hitchhiking
out
111
to
go
to
the
Rancho
Mirage
library.
Is
that
something
we
want
a
mirror
in
that
respect
as
well?
It's
I
know,
politically,
you
know
it's
a
touchy
thing,
but
I
think
it
I
think
it
week.
Laura
really
deserves
to
the
community.
I
think
we
need
to
be
open
about
our
attitudes
in
the
site
selection
process
about
that
issue.
I
think
when
you
start
talking
about
with
the
hope
to
meet
that's
a
safety
issue
from
hearing
correctly.
B
I-
and
we
do
mention
safety
in
one
of
our
criteria,
so
maybe
we
expand
on
that.
If
that's,
if
we
feel
this,
if
you
look
at
the
first
page
family
of
safe
pedestrian
and
bicycle
access,
we
could
expand
on
that
and
just
public
safety
and
gentlemens.
That
would
that
be
what
you're
thinking
about
here?
I
think
that
is
we
get
into
do
we
serve
one
population
over
the
other
to
me,
that's
Alma
that
does
against
wide.
Yes,
my
librarianship
is
everybody
in
terms
of
the
door.
C
B
E
Have
been
a
librarian
for
a
long
time
in
a
lot
of
different
places,
and
since
deinstitutionalization,
60s
and
70s
people
have
been
talking
about
homeless
population
is
in
libraries,
there
have
been
lawsuits
against.
Have
there
been
all
kinds
of
things
that
have
come
up
over
the
years,
but
having
homeless
people
in
your
community
I,
don't
think,
is
a
library
issue,
I
think
it's
community
issue
and
how
you,
how
you
work
with
your
homeless
population,
how
amenities
that
you
provide
the
safety
valves.
E
E
In
it,
it's
not
something:
that's
gonna
be
solved
by
having
criteria.
If
the
library
isn't
open
and
wonderful
and
cool
place
in
the
summer,
people
who
don't
have
a
cool
place
to
go,
we're
going
to
find
you
I
live
in
a
desert.
I
know
what
that's
like
and
that's
what
will
happen
now?
What
how
your
particular
community
legislates?
Things
like
that
is
up
to
your
particular
community,
but
I,
don't
think
that
there's
one
site
over
another
that
is
going
to
be
more
or
less
attractive
to
to
a
homeless
population.
E
I
know
what
that's
like
to
deal
with,
and
yes
I
for
many
years
in
Phoenix
had
my
office
in
the
library
that
people
said
no
I,
don't
think
I
want
to
come
to
the
Central
Library.
There
are
too
many
homeless
people
there,
but
I
can
tell
you
whenever
we
had
problems
in
the
Central
Library
generally
wasn't
someone
who
was
homeless
was
causing
them
they.
It
was
more
of
a
perception
that
word
that
you
used.
E
It
was
more
of
a
perception
and
so
I'm
not
sure
how
you
look
at
sites
and
determine
a
site
for
a
library
using
that
as
one
of
the
considerations
because
again
I
think
it's
them
we're
looking
at
a
population
looking
for
someplace,
where
they're
gonna
be
welcome
and
can
kind
of
blend
in
and
have
a
quiet
place
to
go.
Where
that's
cool
in
the
summer
and
they're
going
to
find
that
place.
A
And
I'll
just
add
that
I
completely
agree
with
Tony
and
I
feel
like
it
won't
matter
where
we
are.
We
are
welcoming
to
all,
and
so
the
buses
will
shift
their
schedules
or
routes
to
match
the
public
library
I
think
I
feel
like
that
way,
and
so
it
won't
matter
where
we
are.
We
will
have
similar
populations
at
any
of
the
sites.
J
B
Speaking
for
the
north
side
of
Palm,
Springs
being
a
location
and
I
want
to
speak
to
that
in
a
few
minutes,
but
we
decided
that,
should
we
look
at
this
as
a
place
that
looking
to
the
future
is
this
going
to
be
our
central
main
library?
We
may
have
branch
libraries
serving
different
parts
of
the
community
in
the
future,
and
so
would
it
be
conducive
to
that
arrangement
or
is
a
main
library
meeting
and
librarians
speak.
B
That
means
it's
a
library
somewhere
in
the
city
with
other
branches
serving
it
as
as
well,
so
that
that
is
an
appropriate
question
that
we're
not
here
to
answer,
but
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
put
it
on
the
list
for
our
consideration.
Correct
I
mean
that's
that's
having
to
do
that.
So
that
is
not
thank
you
for
that
question,
but
so
it's
really
more
of
as
we
look
at
this,
we
ask
ourselves
thinking
of
the
future
where
our
city
is
growing,
we
all
have
crystal
balls
is
putting
that
levy.
B
B
So
if
I
may
can
we
we've
got
to
go
to
considerations
and
we
last
time
we
were
looking
at
the
clock,
not
just
shut
this
conversation
down,
but
can
we
at
least
review
what
we
put
so
far
to
the
addition
to
this
to
make
sure
we're
capturing
that,
but
before
we
do
that,
are
there
any
modifications
to
the
list
of
what
we've
got
here?
Besides
I
did
note
under
site,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
access
that
we
might
put
safety
for
all
users,
including
site,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
access,
and
hopefully
that
would
address.
B
Yeah,
absolutely
okay:
we
need
to
have
two
so
what
I
heard
what
I
heard?
So
we
can
have
one
final
discussion
and
maybe
it's
in
or
out
or
Bishop
Doble,
which
is
side
considerations.
Remember
we
do
have
the
consideration
document
as
well
is
the
timing
that
might
be
required
to
open
this
new
facility
correct.
O
B
B
D
B
E
Guess,
I,
wouldn't
let
any
architect
off
that
that
is
I,
think
you
could
have
a
destination
library
in
any
site
as
long
as
it's
the
site
is,
you
know
large
enough
and
people
can
get
to
it
and
it
fulfills
that
other
criteria,
you
hire
your
signature,
architected,
building
signature
building,
that's
going
to
draw
people.
There
know.
C
What
kind
of
don't
you
want
to
death
here,
but
certain
sites,
because
I'm
not
saying
any
one
of
these
three?
But
you
can
pick
a
site?
You
know
out
on
the
wash
that
no
one's
gonna
go
to
or
you
could
pick
a
site
in
the
middle
of
a
vibrant
commercial
district.
Where
do
you
think
a
destination
site
would
be
more
likely
if
you
could
design
and
activate
so.
B
So
we
build
its
address
for
the
Palm
Springs
Pacific
already
and
boy,
and
by
the
way
we
will
be
discussing
this
as
we
look
at
each
site
right,
so
we
can
get
off
into.
That
is
definitely
a
consideration.
Okay,
slight
limitations.
I'm
sorry
help
me
out
your
victim
I
mean
it
does
a
sight
limit
to
architectural
design,
I'm
trying
to.
L
D
B
B
B
M
B
H
B
B
A
B
Work
so
maybe
move
on
the
site,
considerations
and
remember
in
the
site,
considerations
be
for
those
of
you
who
live
here
last
time
to
me
these,
these
enhance
what
we
just
went
through
and
they're
more
specific
to
the
individual
options,
as
well
as
some
general
options
that
we
talked
about.
He
felt
very
passionate
about
considering.
So
are
you
carrying
us
through
some
of
these.
G
With
actually
about
three
times
longer,
and
we
just
kept
whittling
it
down
as
much
as
we
said,
we
wouldn't
overwhelm
you,
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
finite
as
you
look
at
each
one
of
the
sites
and
pretty
sure
they
sure
some
of
you
will
have
additional
considerations
for
each
of
the
sites.
We
started
up
with
some
just
general
consideration
around
with
synergy
and
attractiveness
to
donors,
to
your
point,
Michael.
What
preservation
issues
are
there
that
well
obviously
be
you
know
specific
to
to
this
site.
G
What
is
I
think
the
big
thing
is:
what
is
this
site
and
this
building
going
to
symbolize
to
the
community
once
you
build
on
it,
and
once
you
build
that
design
and
build
the
library
itself,
this
is
where
your
discussion
is
going
to
get
richer,
deeper,
probably
more
divisive.
It's
where
some
of
you
are
gonna
fall
on
one
option,
as
opposed
to
the
other,
but
it's
meant
to
take
your
thinking
away
from
being
able
to
tick
box,
I,
didn't
think
of
that,
and
maybe
I
want
that
to
be
my
consideration.
G
So,
as
we
think
of
this
process,
as
Tony
and
I,
have
thought
of
this
process
and
cockt
ahead
over
the
next
three
meetings,
you're
going
to
be
talking
very
deeply
about
each
of
the
particular
sites
and
then,
when
you
get
to
your
final
delivery
on
October
7th
is
a
date
we're
going
to
ask
each
of
you
to
give
us
what
your
recommendation
would
be
based
on
criteria
and
the
considerations
that
you
found
to
be
most
important.
So
does
that
make
sense?
G
B
The
discipline
we
have
to
keep
is
what
we've
been
through
tonight,
and
that
is
that
it's
we
were
asked
not
to
consider
funding
or
programs.
It
really
is
that
site
and
I
think
we
need
to
to
be
disciplined
about
that
discussion,
because
it's
so
easy
I
know
it
is
it's
so
easy
to
envision
this
beautiful
building
wherever
it
might
be
full
of
kids
full
of
genealogists
full
of
all
the
things
that
we
see.
I
know
that
is
so
hard,
but
please
be
a
little
more
discipline
about
is
helping.
A
B
We
need
to
battle
it
out
next
week
and
make
that
decision.
I
mean
I.
Think
we
have
to
you
know
it's
gonna,
be
maybe
some
tough
discussion,
but
it
also
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
have
that
discussion
about
this.
That's
why
we're
gonna
be
sitting
here,
so
we
need
to
get
up
and
walk
around
won't
get
up
around.
We
have
to
write
I.
O
Have
one
question
for
next
week
and
maybe
it's
a
question
for
the
city
manager,
which
was
in
at
the
time
this
building
was
built.
There
was
a
general
plan
that
had
an
idea,
I
believe
that
sunrise
was
going
to
be
the
corridor
and
in
my
bright
sunrise
it
was
going
to
be
the
corridor
that
the
residents
were
going
to
use
in
Palm
Canyon
was
for
tourists,
and
is
the
city's
wish
I'm
speaking
a
little
bit
about
what
the
city's
vision
is
about
sunrise
today,
yeah.
H
O
F
Be
maybe
we
could
look
at
data
about
how
sunrise
is
used
today?
I
know
the
intersection
that
da
P
is
located
at
has
something
like
27
thousand
cars
go
by
it
during
certain
peaks
of
the
day,
and
so
we've
studied
that
before
so
maybe
we
could
just
see
how
you
sunrise
way
is.
Is
that
data
that
you
guys
have
yeah?
We
travel
via
traffic
thing
of
true
3d,
no
bouncing
yeah,
and
we
could
compare
it
to
other
similar
streets
in
town
or
something
just
so.
A
I
B
Would,
in
response
to
pull
the
comment
to
my
desk,
the
point
is
well-taken
and
we
can
look
to
the
scene
I'm
in
the
library
statistics,
on
how
many
people
are
coming
in
the
doors
and
how
the
building
is
used
and
how
important
it
is
as
we
we
way
this
building
under
that's
important
food.
We
have
that
in
our
pork
level
of
information,
but
we
definitely
may
want
to
pepper
our
conversation
with
that
as
well.
F
A
B
N
I
O
A
B
A
There,
yes
ma'am,
oh
yeah,
I
think
the
only
thing
in
the
way
I
was
saying
was
just
like
the
relationship
of
the
site
to
its
nearby
space
right
and
I.
Think
each
of
the
sites
were
talking
about.
You
have
such
variations,
but
you're
coming
about
the
mountain
and
making
the
downtown
kind
of
an
accessible
from
one
side.
So
I
couldn't
really
stop
my
brain
and
I
just
realized
and
on
the
ranch,
history
and
facts.
A
A
B
If
we
ask
the
question,
did
we
did
we
fulfill?
The
vision,
then
might
be
a
worth.
A
brief
conversation
is
where
we
are
today.
What
was
envisioned
40
years
ago?
Are
we
really
did
we
do
that?
Because
guess
what
folks
we're
building
the
vision
for
the
next?
So
you
know
we
will
never
know
what
did
they
do?
They
did
the
right
name.
Maybe
but
we'll
least
a
whole
division
implemented
here,
how's
that
that
kind
of
a
safe
conversation,
man,
yeah
yeah
I,
was.
A
N
A
B
C
You
know
Michael
I'm,
sorry,
that's,
okay,
we
see
sites.
Consideration
is
now
to
this
building
I'd
like
to
add
a
couple,
and
one
is
what
would
the
historic
preservation
concerns
for?
How
would
the
historic
preservation
is
concerned?
Impact
design
here
I
think
that's
going
to
be.
Obviously
our
preservation
opinion
is
very
strong
voice
and
they're
gonna
weigh
in
on
whatever
is
decided,
whether
it's
unimodal
not
expanded,
but
I
think
imagine
is
going
to.
G
C
It's
like
no
matter
how
much
parties
we
provide
here,
it'll,
never
be
enough,
and
so
I
think
that
has
to
be,
or
is
there
a
way
to
design
parking
such
that
it's
not
convenient
to
the
stadium,
but
sir
there's
more
much
more
directed
towards
this.
Whatever
this
building
is
will
be
but
I
think
looking
at
the
stadium
impacts,
house
team
impact
parking
to
the
society.
C
B
C
C
D
It's
important
whether
it
is
Cody
or
employees
Cody's
office,
but
I,
think
the
discussion
really
last
time
it
was
about
how
to
do
alter
this
building
in
order
to
accommodate
the
new
library
square-footage,
not
whether
this
would
be
Fitness
Oh.
So
it's
tips
about
what
Maria's
talking
about
it.
Dude
builds
I,
guess
that's
Congress
with
the
harmonious
rep
and
how
you
how
you
integrate
that
in
a
historically
significant
building
it
wasn't
about
me,
it
wasn't
about
raising
it.
C
D
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
her
name,
because
when
you
talk
about
historic
preservation,
issues,
one
is
can
alter
the
exterior
of
the
building
at
all
right
already,
building
something
right.
Next
door
go
home
inside
the
footprint
and
those
sorts
of
things.
So
that's
that's
I,
think.
Maybe
the
conversation
last
time
isn't
this
understood
all.
H
Those
things
would
have
to
consider
and
I,
don't
think
the
preservation
community
isn't
open-minded
as
relates
to
adaptive,
reuse
or
whatever
term
you
would
use
to
renovate
a
building.
You
have
to
do
it
creatively.
You'd
have
to
actually
get
you
know.
Experts
like
we
all
are
what
we
know.
It's
not
to
deal
with
existing
buildings
and
there's
an
addition,
or
if
there's
the
new
building
is
it
is
adjacent
and
how
it
relates.
D
A
N
D
N
Can
only
speak
for
one
person
on
council,
but
I
do
not
think
there
is
any
desire
to
demolish
this
building
on
by
anyone
and
I
pretty
comfortable
that
it's
not
something.
We've
ever
talked
about
our
and
I
can't
imagine
that
conversation
taking
place
so
yeah
I
wouldn't
want
knowing
how
fast
social
media
can
get
going.
H
K
E
O
E
B
We
don't
literally
for
each
site,
I,
wouldn't
be
consistent
with
this
conversation.
Freaks
I,
don't
know
anyone
to
say
that
we're
doing
something
from
one
side
not
for
the
other
I
want
to
be
very
clear
about
that.
So
I
think
that
for
each
with
each
side,
consideration
let's
spend
the
first
part
of
the
the
meeting
reviewing
any
historical
or
background
information,
we'll
call
it
that
would
be
relevant
to
our
discussion.
In
our
decision.
B
Remember
we
have
homework
so
we're
going
to
mixture.
We
consult
the
measure,
art
and
some
of
the
information
you've
already
been
reading
by
the
way,
but
we'll
do
the
same
thing
for
lot.
Ge
we'll
do
the
same
thing
for
Tod
and
will
include
some
statistics
about
that.
So,
but
yeah
you've
already
give
it
to
us,
but
let's
make
sure
we
incorporate
an
agenda
again.
We're.
B
A
G
N
With
regard
to
the
downtown
park,
if
you've
not
seen
the
3d
mock-up,
that
is
in
the
lobby
at
City,
Hall
I
really
encourage
you
to
go
in
anytime.
That
City
Hall
is
open
and
there
is
a
very
good
3d
three-dimensional
diagram
of
what
the
park
is
expected
to
look
like
and
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
try
to
imagine
okay.
How
would
lock
a
building
on
lot
G
adjacent
to
that.
B
B
B
Pollock
on
what
that's
the
right
hand.
How
about
thank
you.
He
testified
and
asked
us
to
consider.
The
north
and
I
will
tell
you
that
anybody
who
knows
any
of
us
I'm
sure
people
have
said.
Oh
if
you're
in
the
library
have
you
thought
about
this,
you
thought
about
that
or
we
sure
don't
want
you
to
move.
We've
all
been
approached
by
that
and
I
and
I.
My
general
response
is,
if
you
have
an
idea,
you
have
an
option.
D
B
C
B
B
N
If
I
could-
and
we
have
three
sites
that
we
reliable
and
believe
we
can
move
on
now,
it's
crazy
things
happen,
and
sometimes
somebody
will
come
out
of
the
blue
because
they
see
that
we're
moving
in
direct
a
direction.
I
wouldn't
want
to
forestall
anyone
who
has
a
wonderful
site
that
they
want
to
give
to
us
and
but
absent.
Someone
coming
forward
with
some
incredible
offer
that
we
need
to
consider.
We've
got
three
cards
sitting
on
the
table.
Let's
look
at
those
three
cards.
N
B
I
think
we've
talked
about
see,
identifying
additional
information
to
be
researched,
leave
a
skill
that
so
we
know
what
we
have
to
do
for
homework
next
time
and
so
finding.
You
know
that
any
other
related
issues,
councilmember
Middleton
but
you're,
ending
anything
that
you'd
like
to
share
with
us.
At
this
point,
I.
N
A
B
G
B
B
Not
at
the
next
three
meetings,
however,
we're
going
to
use
technology
to
bring
them
in
so
they
will
be
with
us,
but
they
won't
be
physically,
but
there
are
the
neighbor
team
use
the
next
week
is
here
so
the
16th
library
correct.
My
next
meeting
is
gonna,
be
at
the
well
with
20
pairs
below
and
then
the
call
to
the
desert
will
be
back
here
at
that
correct.
You
know.