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From YouTube: City Council Meeting | Jan 26 2023
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Regular Meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held January 26th, 2023
This broadcast will also include a report on the Closed Session meeting of January 26th, 2023
A
At
this
time,
I
want
to
introduce
Zoe
gray.
She
is
a
freshman
at
Palm,
Springs,
High
School,
the
class
of
2026,
a
member
of
the
Palm
Springs
High
Spirit
of
the
Sands
band
and
visual
core
and
a
member
of
Girl
Scouts
of
San
Gorgonio
troop
2517
and
she
will
be
leading
Us
in
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
If
we
can
all
stand.
B
A
D
A
Thank
you
so
much
just
wanted
to
start
quickly
with
a
statement
on
the
eve
of
Lunar
New
Year
Monterey
Park
experienced
the
loss
of
10
people
and
the
wounding
of
an
additional
10
during
a
mass
shooting.
A
few
days
later,
another
shooting
occurred
in
Half
Moon
Bay,
where
seven
people
were
killed
and
one
was
injured.
We
know
that
these
tragedies
can
happen
anywhere,
even
with
robust
gun
control,
as
we
have
in
California.
Our
hearts
go
out
to
the
family,
friends
and
community
of
the
many
that
were
impacted.
A
Thank
you
and
to
our
residents,
the
city
and
our
Public
Safety
officers
take
the
Safety
and
Security
of
our
residents
seriously.
In
the
past
year,
our
police
department
has
removed
75
illegal
guns
from
our
streets,
and
the
council
has
taken
action
to
fund
violence
prevention
programs
and
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
of
our
residents.
As
always,
we
are
open
to
hearing
from
the
public
on
additional
ways
that
we
can
support.
All
of
you.
A
This
is
a
full
agenda
today.
So
I
do
ask
the
council
that
we
keep
our
comments,
concise
and
we
will
take
a
break
after
our
public
hearing.
If
time
it
gets
tight.
There
may
be
an
item
at
the
end
regarding
adult
businesses
that
will
get
pushed
to
the
next
meeting,
but
I
will
speak
more
to
that
once
we
see
how
we're
doing
on
timing
for
the
rest
of
the
items.
A
Our
next
item
is
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda.
May
amend
the
order
at
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
consent,
calendar
items
or
request
consent,
calendar
items
be
removed
for
a
separate
discussion.
I'd
like
to
note
a
clarification
on
item
1f
for
this
item.
We
have
a
couple
of
changes:
Council
should
have
an
updated
copy
in
their
email
and
on
the
diocese
for
the
public.
Those
changes
are
that
we
only
have
one
current
standing
committee,
which
is
the
finance
committee.
A
The
public
integrity
subcommittee
was
previously
disbanded
and
will
be
removed
from
that
that
list
and
mayor
Pro
tem
Bernstein
is
unable
to
be
the
appointee
for
the
cvag
energy
and
environmental
resources.
Committee
in
his
stead
will
be
council
member
to
heart,
with
council
member
Holsted
remaining
the
alternate
I'm.
Sorry,
one
e.
Thank
you
for
the
correction
I'd
like
to
entertain
a
motion
for
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
additional
items?
Staff
or
a
council
member
would
like
to
be
removed
from
the
consent
calendar
for
separate
discussion
or
a
vote.
F
F
So
1f
is
the
approval
of
a
sister
city
program
agreement
which
I'm
very
excited
about.
This
has
been
three
years
working
on.
This
I
helped
found
it
as
a
result
of
the
business
retention
and
subcommittee
with
then
council,
member
cores
and
hostages,
urging
it
is
now
an
official
501c3.
I
am
no
longer
on
the
board.
F
Al
Jones,
who
is
a
chair
of
the
board,
is
here
in
February
6th
the
week
of
February
6th,
the
mayor
of
San
Miguel,
and
a
contingent
from
San
Miguel
de
Allende
in
Mexico
will
be
coming
to
Palm
Springs
to
sign
the
first
sister
city
agreement.
We've
had
in
I
think
40
years,
so
it'll
be
very
exciting.
I
did
just
want
to
mention
for
those
who
are
interested
in
getting
involved
in
the
sister
city.
There
is
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
education,
education,
Arts
tourism,
business
and
other
parts
of
the
community.
F
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
I'd,
like
to
pull
item
1M
for
Mesquite
and
I
just
want
to
congratulate
mayor
Pro,
tem
Bernstein
on
the
success
of
the
sister
city
program.
It's
really
been
incredible
to
watch
him
initiate
that
from
start
to
finish
and
how
wonderful
he
gets
to
vote
on
it
now
is
the
mere
Pro
tem
of
the
city.
Thank
you,
mayor,
Pro
tem,
for
all
of
your
work.
A
G
B
A
F
C
Mayor
Gardner,
yes,
five
members
motion
passes.
Thank.
I
A
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
public
testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You
are
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note:
the
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
general
public
comment
for
subjects
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
at
a
later
time
in
the
evening
city
clerk.
J
This
does
not
qualify
for
a
clear
and
present
danger
test
nor
imminent
disorder
under
incitement
to
imminent
Lawless
action
tests.
I
cite
both
the
14th
Amendment
rights
of
citizens
and
the
First
Amendment
Congress
shall
make
no
law
respecting
an
establishment
of
religion
or
prohibiting
the
free
exercise
thereof
or
abridging
the
freedom
of
speech
or
of
the
press
or
over
right
of
the
people,
peace
of
ably
to
a
symbol
and
to
petition
the
government
for
a
redress
of
grievances.
J
In
each
case,
courts
must
ask
whether
the
gravity
of
the
evil
discounted
by
its
improbability
justifies
such
invasion
of
free
speech
that
is
necessary
to
avoid
the
danger.
The
advocacy
of
abstraction
is
constitutionally
protected.
An
advocate
must
take
positive
steps
to
restore
another
person's
autonomy
when
it
is
threatened
or
diminished.
Otherwise,
all
talk
of
advocacy
is
simply
lit
service.
President,
John
F
Kennedy
stated
there
is
no
need
for
secret
societies.
J
Well,
then,
stop
plagiarizing
works
of
all
dark
religions,
occult
Pagan,
satanic
Wicca,
atheist
agnostic,
non-believers,
Gnostic,
First,
Nation,
old
world
other
religions,
folk
religions
and
any
non-light
religions.
Public
notice,
I
have
read
plagiarized
occult
Works
in
Palm
Springs
Riverside
County
trademarked
on
my
online
religious
reading
at
internetarchive.com,
the
book
of
black
magic
and
of
packs
by
Arthur
Edward
Waite,
Indian
Nation,
the
United
States
California,
the
County
of
Riverside
and
Sheriff
Bianco
must
cease
and
desist.
K
Mayor
Garner
and
council
members
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
approving
the
consent,
consent
item
for
the
waiver
of
fees
for
the
Palm,
Springs
Health
run
and
wellness
Festival.
The
event
is
free
and
open
to
the
public
and
suitable
for
all
family
members.
Desert
Oasis
health
care
will
have
their
mobile
unit
there
doing
free
health
screenings
for
blood
pressure
body
mass
index,
glucose
and
diabetes.
Desert
healthcare
district
will
have
their
new
mobile
unit
there
doing
free
covet
and
flu
shots.
K
Eisenhower
health
will
be
doing
first,
aid
for
the
event
and
free
respiratory
screenings
live
stream,
Blood
Bank,
we'll
be
doing
a
blood
drive
that
day
and
dap
health
will
be
doing
HIV,
testing
and
STI.
So
it's
an
amazing
free
event
for
everybody.
You
can
have
multiple
tests
done
all
on
the
same
day.
So
thank
you
very
much.
L
Good
evening,
mayor
council,
my
name
is
Jessica
spry
I'm,
a
Palm
Springs
resident
owner
of
three
local
boutique
hotels
and
a
member
of
the
Community
Partnership
on
homelessness.
My
public
comment
relates
to
agenda
item
3C,
trespassing
ordinances
for
certain
public
properties,
specifically
the
airport,
the
Community
Partnership
on
homelessness
advocates
for
the
quick
passage
of
strong
ordinances,
preventing
unsheltered
people
from
loitering
around
the
airport
grounds
or
sleeping
inside
the
airport.
Last
year.
The
city
assured
us.
The
access
center
across
the
street
from
the
airport
would
not
create
a
secondary
impacts
in
and
around
the
airport.
L
Well,
we
don't
know
if
the
Uncharted
unsheltered
people
staying
overnight
in
the
airport
or
in
any
way
connected
to
the
access
center.
We
do
know
the
situation
cannot
continue
for
obvious
tourism
and
civic
pride
reasons.
We'd.
Also,
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
we'd
like
to
really
thank
Chief
Andy
Mills
for
taking
compassionate,
yet
assertive
actions
through
operation,
clean
streets
and
operation.
L
Relentless
Sun
Chief
Mills
has
thought
thoughtfully
segments
the
unsheltered
population
so
that
the
police
can
more
effectively
focus
on
the
criminal
elements
that
prey
on
other
homeless
individuals,
those
that
commit
crimes,
both
misdemeanor
and
felony.
So
the
residents
and
the
business
community
of
Palm
Springs
look
forward
to
your
Swift
action.
Thank
you.
A
M
Good
evening,
Council,
the
item
before
you
this
evening
is
a
request
for
an
allocation
of
funds
from
the
general
fund
to
the
Code
Compliance
department
for
abatement.
Services
Code
Compliance
is
responsible
to
enforce
the
municipal
code
within
the
city.
There
are
presently
three
properties
that
have
been
identified
as
a
nuisance
property
and
they
are
in
need
of
abatement
Services.
When
code
was
transferred
to
the
Department
of
special
program
compliance,
the
budget
did
not
include
an
amount
allocated
for
abatement
services,
so
that
is
what
we
are
here
requesting.
So
we
can
proceed
with
those
abatement
processes.
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
I
pulled
this
item.
This
is
a
larger
amount
than
we're
used
to
seeing
on
consent,
calendar
and
so
I'm
not
opposed
to
that
item.
But
I
would
like
more
information
about.
If
we're
able
you
know
which
properties
why
what
the
amounts
are
for
each
just.
So
we
can
do
our
fiduciary
duty
to
assess
the
funds
and
the
usage
of
them
I
see
that
it
says
that
that
wasn't
normally
allocated.
G
We
did
not
allocate
it
from
the
general
fund
there
is
that
amount
left
over
so
I
would
just
like
more
information
on
this
item
to
staff.
Is
it
an
urgency
where
we
need
to
approve
it
tonight,
or
can
we
request
that
it
come
forward
at
the
next
meeting
with
a
more
detailed
staff
report?
So
we
can
just
look
at
the
numbers
and
understand
which
properties.
M
There
are
three
identified
properties:
they
are
all
in
the
desert,
Highland
Gateway
area,
the
properties
one
was
deemed
condemned
by
the
building
official
to
sustain
significant
damage
there
are,
there
is
a
threat
to
Public
Safety
in
that
there
are
squatters
on
these
properties.
So
there
is
that
concern
in
this.
Why
we'd
like
to
move
forward
at
this
time
to
proceed
the
cost
to
Abate
these
properties?
If
there
is
no
asbestos,
it
can
be
any
starting
from
fifty
thousand
dollars
if
there
is
asbestos,
135
000
per
property.
That
is
why
we
requested
that
sum.
G
M
G
Then,
if
it
needs
less
like
it's
50
000
each
let's
say
I
can't
tell
because
I
have
no
information
about
what
the
properties
are,
what
they
look
like,
what
their
status
is,
then,
would
that
amount
just
be
held
in
Code
Compliance
contractual
Services
account
for
future
use.
That.
G
And
for
the
for
you
or
for
the
city
manager,
so
could
you
talk
a
little
bit
I'm
just
having
I
think
we
don't
frequently
approve
this
amount
in
consent
unless
I'm
mistaken
I
know
we
recently
upped
those
amounts.
So
I
was
just
a
little
surprised
to
see
it
without
a
lot
of
information.
So
can
you
just
speak
to
the
sufficiency
we
have
in
our
general
fund
balance
and
why
this
will
be
fine,
even
though
we
didn't
budget
for
it
initially.
H
Certainly,
mayor
and
Council
funding
is
available
and
we
would
like
to
use
it
for
this
particular
purpose,
and
it
would
be
something
that
we
would
have
regularly
budgeted
in
the
future
so
that
when
there
are
nuisance,
abatements
that
go
through
a
proper
proceeding,
we
can
take
action
on
that
and
we
can
prevent
some
of
the
safety
concerns
that
surround
nuisance
properties.
G
M
G
M
So
these
properties
have
been
the
subject
of
Investigation
by
Code
Compliance.
Several
notices
were
sent
out
to
the
responsible
parties.
They
were
either
ignored
or
Corrections
were
not
made.
Therefore,
they
were
forwarded
to
our
City
Attorney's
department
to
go
to
court
and
seek
the
abatement
orders.
That's
where
we
are
presently
at.
H
Also
I'd
like
to
add
that
we
do
recoup
the
costs
of
this
abatement.
We
lean
the
property
or
it
goes
on
the
tax
roll,
and
so
the
city
is
reimbursed
at
some
point
when
this
property
is
sold.
G
F
A
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
item
2A,
a
public
hearing
for
an
appeal
by
12
at
Las,
Palmas
LLC.
If
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
conditionally
approve
a
conditional
use,
permit
major
development
permit
and
tentative
tract
map
to
construct
a
12
units,
multiple
family,
residential
development,
consisting
of
for
sale,
condominiums
on
a
.95
Acre
Site,
located
at
1424
Camino
Norte
that
we
have
a
staff
report.
Please.
O
Good
evening
Madam
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
members
of
council,
this
item
is
an
appeal
of
the
planning
commission's
decision
relative
to
a
proposed
12-unit
condominium
development
located
west
of
North,
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
and
south
of
Stevens
Road
or
background.
The
subject
site
is
just
under
one
acre
in
size
and
is
located
on
the
west
side
of
Palm
Canyon
Drive
West
of
the
Terminus
of
Camino
Monte
Vista.
O
The
site
has
split
zoning
with
the
West
Side
zoned
residential
R2
and
the
East
Side
along
Palm
Canyon's
own
commercial,
C1,
I'm,
going
to
talk
more
about
the
site
and
the
proposed
development
in
just
a
minute
to
facilitate
the
development.
The
approval
of
three
planning
applications
wasn't
was
required,
including
a
conditional
use
permit
to
authorize
multi-family
use
on
the
portion
of
the
site
that
is
owned,
commercial,
a
major
development
permit
to
permit
the
multi-family
residential
development
and
a
tentative
tracked
map
to
create
the
12
condominium
units.
O
The
applications
were
first
considered
by
the
Planning
Commission
in
October,
at
which
time
the
hearing
was
continued,
with
direction
to
the
applicant
to
make
revisions
to
Landscaping,
building,
elevations
and
design,
and
to
remove
the
vehicular
gate
that
was
proposed
for
the
acts,
the
primary
access,
the
only
access
off
Camino
Norte,
the
application
returned
to
the
Planning
Commission
on
December
14
2022,
with
revisions
that
addressed
most
of
the
items
I
just
mentioned.
But
the
revised
submission
continued
to
show
the
vehicular
gate.
Access
on
Camino
Norte.
O
At
that
meeting,
the
applicant
expressed
that
the
gates
were
necessary
to
control
unauthorized
access
to
the
site
that
could
create
parking
and
circulation
issues,
as
well
as
to
respond
to
issues
of
safety
and
trespassing.
The
commission
voted
unanimously
to
approve
the
project,
but
they
also
included
a
condition
that
prohibited
the
vehicular
gait
being
unable
to
find
that
it
met
the
requirements
of
the
zoning
code,
I'm
going
to
talk
more
about
those
requirements
in
just
a
minute,
while
the
project
was
approved.
O
The
basis
of
the
applicant's
appeal
tonight
is
relative
to
that
condition
and
they
are
seeking
to
have
that
removed
so
that
they
can
have
the
vehicular
gate
for
the
development
off
of
Camino
Norte.
So
I'll
just
quickly
walk
you
through
the
development
itself.
The
site
in
question
is
outlined
here
in
Black.
You
can
see
that
it
is
on
the
west
side
of
North
Palm
Canyon
at
the
Terminus
of
East
Camino
Monte
Vista.
You
can
see
Camino
Norte
on
the
west
side
of
the
development.
That
is
where
the
primary
access
to
the
development
would
be
located.
O
So
here's
the
overall
site
plan
and
Landscape
plan.
You
can
see
here
the
12
units.
There
are
four
units
sort
of
located
on
that
Southwest
portion
of
the
site,
and
then
there
are
a
further
eight
units
located
on
located
on
the
East
portion
of
the
site.
You
can
see
the
primary
and
only
entry
point
being
there
at
Camino
Norte
on
the
east
on
the
west
side
of
the
development
that
would
come
in
and
provide
access
to
each
of
these
units
each
unit
will
have
its
own
garage.
O
O
O
Here
we
can
see
some
project
rendering,
so
this
is
the
view
from
Palm
Canyon,
so
you
can
see
that
there
is
that
there
are
three-story
residential
units
located
sort
of
back
from
Palm
Canyon
and
in
the
foreground.
Forefront
closest
to
Palm
Canyon
are
those
accessory
units
that
I
that
I
described.
You
can
see
here,
they're
sort
of
mid-century
in
design
and
as
a
result
of
conversations
with
the
Planning
Commission.
Certain
changes
were
made
to
the
architectural
detail
to
provide.
O
Here
is
the
view
from
Camino
Norte
on
the
west
side
of
the
development
you
can
see
on
the
image,
the
top
the
gate.
That
is
the
subject
of
the
appeal
tonight,
which
would
restrict
access
into
the
development
and
the
parking
in
there
here
are
some
additional
elevations
again
from
the
Palm
Canyon
and
Camino
Norte
frontages,
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
sense
of
the
overall
development
and
finally
sort
of
a
bird's
eye
perspective,
again
from
both
the
east
and
west
side
of
the
development,
looking
at
it
at
the
overall
plan.
O
The
commission
also
suggested
that,
in
order
to
respond
to
the
applicant's
concerns,
additional
guest
parking
should
be
provided
and
that
site
access
could
be
controlled
via
signage
and
appropriate
enforcement
of
trespassing.
The
commission's
vote
to
approve
and
to
include
this
condition
was
unanimous
and
the
applicant
did
I'm.
Sorry
did
appeal
that
decision
within
the
statutory
time
frame
to
do
so,
which
is
the
basis
of
the
hearing
tonight
staff's
recommendation,
is
to
uphold
the
planning
commission's
determination,
as
outlined
in
the
resolution
that
was
included
with
your
report.
O
A
F
So,
just
to
be
clear,
this
is
a
private
driveway.
It's
not
a
public
road
where
anyone
has
access
to
and
if
they
wanted
to
have
I
know
there
was
an
issue
about
controlling
traffic.
If
they
wanted
to
have
a
stop
sign
at
the
end
of
the
driveway.
Is
there
any
information.
O
On
that,
in
fact,
I
think
that
that
was
part
of
the
conversation
with
the
Planning,
Commission
and
and
I
think
that
having
a
stop
sign,
there
is
something
that
the
engineering
department
is
looking
for.
Okay,.
O
This
particular
area,
Palm
Canyon
I,
can
only
speak
of
my
personal
experience.
I
think
it's
it's
a
little
easier
to
find
parking
here
than
it
is
further
down.
Palm
Canyon,
but
certainly
there
are
challenges
with
parking
along
Palm,
Canyon,
okay,.
A
Thank
you
additional
questions
from
Council
councilmember
hostage.
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
staff
report.
The
written
staff
report
really
excellent
appreciate
that
I
just
had
some
questions
about
the
underlying
General
plan,
designation
and
Zoning.
So
it
says
that
the
general
plan
is
high
density,
residential
and
mixed
use
and
that
the
zoning
is
C1,
retail
or
and
R2
for
residential.
So
could
you
just
explain
a
little
bit
about
the
general
plan
and
the
zoning
designation
and
how
this
project
complies
sure.
O
So,
as
you
mentioned,
it's
both
it's
split
both
in
terms
of
its
General
plan
designation
and
its
zoning
designation.
So
the
the
portion
of
the
project,
the
project,
is
split
between
the
high
density
residential
that
you
mentioned
and
the
mixed
use
development
and
that
establishes
it
does
permit
a
range
of
uses,
including
residential
and
Commercial
uses
at
certain
densities.
O
O
The
split
zoning
you
have
the
C1
zoning
that
is
really
along
the
Palm
Canyon
Frontage,
and
then
you
have
the
R2
zoning
behind
it
really
closer
to
Camino.
Norte
again
residential
uses
are
permitted
in
the
C1.
It
doesn't
establish
that
commercial
uses
are
mandatory,
but
those
residential
uses
multi-family
uses
are
required
through
a
conditional
use
permit,
which
is
what
necessitated
the
conditional
use
permit
associated
with
this.
So
they
do
comply
with
the
underlying
official
plan
or
sorry
General
plan
designation
and
Zoning
code
requirements.
G
Thank
you,
that's
helpful,
I
know.
Council.
We
had
extensive
conversations
with
the
aloe
or
agave
project
about
activating
Palm,
Canyon
and
Council
has
had
extensive
conversations
about
use,
really
relying
on
mixed
use
and
retail
for
Palm
Canyons.
That's
our
main
retail
area
in
the
city,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
about
the
underlying
zoning.
So
that's
helpful
So
when
you
say
the
the
minimum.
There's
multiple
General
plan
designation.
So
what
is
the
minimum
that
you're
referring
to.
O
So
when
you
average
out
those
two
designations
of
the
it
ends
up
with
a
minimum
of
eight
units
per
acre
or
for
this
site
for
the
0.95
Acres
that
this
site
is
a
minimum
of
eight
units
would
be
required
on
this
site
they're
at
12,
so
they
are
exceeding
the
minimum
and
they
are
below
the
maximum
threshold
and
I'm.
Sorry
that
I
don't
have
those
numbers
in
front
of
me,
but
they
are
within
the
range
that
is
permitted
by
the
general
plan
designation
and
to
respond
to
your
point
about
the
commercial
uses.
O
That
is
a
conversation
that
we
had
with
the
applicants
on
this
project,
given
that
it
was
a
a
large
part
of
the
conversation
on
the
aloe
development,
whether
there
could
be
some
kind
of
commercial
use
here,
activation
of
Palm,
Canyon,
I
think
the
size
and
configuration
of
this
particular
site
makes
that
difficult.
It
doesn't
have
a
great
deal
of
Frontage
along
Palm
Canyon
and
when
you
factor
in
commercial
parking
requirements
that
would
be
associated
with
commercial
uses
here,
it
really
becomes
difficult
to
pencil
out.
G
Thank
you.
Could
you
just
go
back
to
that
point,
so
I
got
resident
questions
about
the
activation
of
Palm
Canyon
and,
if
there's
just
a
wall
along
Palm
Canyon
and
how
really
the
what
The
Pedestrian
experience
will
be
like.
So
could
you
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
or
show
us
in
one
of
those
slides
what
the
thinking
was
there
with
Penning
commission
and
staff?
If.
A
If
I
can
interrupt
quickly,
can
we
just
get
some
clarification,
though,
on
what's
before
us
right
now,
because
are
we
able
to
make
any
changes
other
than
require
either
allowing
a
gate
or
not
or
going
along
with
counsel
Planning
Commission?
Excuse
me.
O
So
as
I
understand
it
and
I
will
look
to
the
City
attorney
to
correct
me,
but
you
know
the
appeal
is
relative
to
the
condition
that
the
Planning
Commission
put
on
their
approval
restricting
the
gates.
However,
because
it
is
before
the
council,
it
is
a
de
novo
hearing
and
I
believe
the
council
does
have
the
ability
to
modify
the
proposal
or
make
a
different
determination
than
the
Planning
Commission
did.
A
O
If
you
can
pull
it
up
again,
actually
here
is
the
slide
council
member
Holsted
that
speaks
to
the
density
and
the
designation.
I
did
have
it
as
a
backup
here.
So
you
can
see
the
high
density
residential
allows
a
range
15
to
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
that
is
0.6
Acres
of
the
site.
So
that's
a
range
of
9
to
18..
The
mixed
use
has
a
maximum
of
15
dwelling
units
per
acre,
so
that
allows
up
to
five
units
for
a
range
of
nine
to
twenty
three.
O
So
again,
we're
closer
to
the
bottom
end
of
the
end
of
that
range.
But
we
are
within
the
range
and
then
going
to
one
of
the
renderings
I
think
this
one
is
a
little
bit
better.
It
doesn't
show
really
well
on
this
rendering,
because
it's
it's
sort
of
grayed
out
to
allow
you
to
see
the
architecture
behind
it.
But
there
are
these
planting
boxes
in
front
of
the
development
that
are
10
feet.
O
Deep
five
feet
are
on
in
the
city
right
away,
are
in
five
or
on
the
property,
so
they
will
be
landscaped
and
they
will
include
shade
trees
when
this
goes
to
the
Architectural
Review
Committee.
That
will
be
one
of
the
things
that
they
look
at
to
look
at
the
species
of
the
trees,
Etc
and
sort
of
the
Landscaping
details.
But
the
idea
here
is
there
will
be
Landscaping
there
to
give
some
shading
and
also
to
help
sort
of
give
a
nice
pedestrian
experience
along
Palm
Canyon.
This.
O
The
this
rendering
does
also
show
there
were
changes
to
the
architectural
details
for
those
accessory
dwelling
units
that
are
located
there
along
the
front
edge
to
provide
a
little
more
transparency
with
the
Clara
story,
windows
and
a
little
more
architectural
design.
Wrapping
the
buildings
to
you
know
we're
not
going
to
have
storefronts
there
that
people
can
go
in
and
out
of.
But
but
the
idea
is
that
the
architectural
detail
there
will
feel
a
little
more
inviting
to
people
walking
by.
G
Thank
you
and
how
tall
are
those
walls?
There
are
those
brick
walls?
Could
you
I'm
sorry
to
counsel
to
ask
so
many
questions
of
Staff,
but
I
figure
it's
just
easier
to
get
these
out
now
and
then
I
won't
ask
them
later.
So
could
you,
while
you're
have
that?
Could
you
detail
that
what
The
Pedestrian
experience
will
be
like
what
those
walls
look
like
and
how
tall
they
are?
I.
G
O
O
A
P
Good
evening
my
name
is
Dennis
Cunningham
or
I
represent
Palm
Springs,
modern
homes
and
we're
the
developers
at
12
at
Las,
Palmas
I
understand
the
city's
policy.
I
do
understand
the
city's
policy
regarding
gated
communities
and
that's
what
we're
discussing
tonight.
I
think
my
understanding
is
that
our
city
would
prefer
developments
to
interact
with
their
neighborhoods
when
you
have
a
neighborhood
where
the
streets
flow
from
one
to
the
next,
a
gated
community
within
that
development
would
disrupt
the
neighbor
neighborly
flow,
the
12
at
Las
Palmas.
There
are
no
flow
through
streets.
P
P
The
primary
concern
after
the
meeting
with
our
neighbors,
because
we
did
meet
with
the
with
the
neighborhood
committee,
which
I
think
you
all
have
letters
here
for
and
also
a
letter
from
Ingrid
verdier
who
owns
the
commercial
building
on
our
South
Southeast,
corner
and
I.
Think
if
you
look
at
her
letter
in
depth,
you'll
see
the
the
situations
that
she
deals
with
over
there
on
a
daily
basis.
P
The
primary
concern
after
the
meeting
with
the
neighbors
is
the
curve
on
Via
Norte
that
that
was
shown
earlier
to
the
north
of
our
of
our
project.
Gating,
the
12
units
would
would
create
some
degree
of
traffic
calming
by
having
the
cars
leaving
and
having
to
stop
at
a
gate
rather
than
the
gate
opening.
You
know
when
wait
till
the
gate
opens
and
then
needs
a
stopping
point
with
no
Gates
the
cars
leaving
could
basically
roll
through
in
a
sense
and
possibly
interact
with
the
with
the
with
the
flow
on
that
traffic.
P
There
was
one
question
brought
up,
I
think
by
Planning
Commission
that
asked
if
a
stop
sign
could
be
put
on
out
as
you
come
out,
and
the
answer
to
that
from
the
public
works
department
from
if
you
have
a
an
area
which
is
across
the
street,
it
would
be
on
the
west
side,
it's
not
curb
and
guttered,
and
therefore
putting
street
signs
in
I,
don't
think
are
allowed
from.
From
from
that.
P
From
from
my
conversation
with
with
folks
and
and
also
a
stop
sign
that
I
don't
think
it's
a
matter
if
someone's
just
pulling
out
and
and
going
about
their
day,
I'm
not
saying
people
are
going
to
bomb
out
of
the
development,
but
having
a
gate
would
you
have
to
stop
and
you
have
to
think
and
then
you
have
to
move
forward
and
I
I
do
hope.
P
A
Q
Good
evening,
mayor
council,
I'm
here
at
this
evening,
representing
18
neighbors,
who
live
within
500
foot
radius
of
this
project
and
they
are
in
favor
of
the
gates
at.
A
A
A
A
Okay,
well,
that
was
supposed
to
come
before
that,
but
since,
but
let's
finish
this
discussion
first
with
these
two
gentlemen
and
then
I'll
call
you
back
up.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
following
process.
R
D
A
Thank
you.
Why
don't
we
go
ahead,
then,
then,
sir,
and
and
have
you
give
your
two
minutes
of
of
public
comment
and
then
we'll
go
back
to
that
to
the
applicant
and
have
them
answer
Council
questions
we're
just
a
little
out
of
order
tonight.
Thank.
Q
You
mayor
Garth
Gilbert's,
the
name
I'm
here
this
evening
representing
18
neighbors
who
live
within
the
500
foot
radius
of
this
project
and
they
are
in
favor
of
the
gates
at
this
project.
The
gate
issue
is
one
of
safety
to
these
neighbors.
It
could
possibly
have
been
resolved
if
the
Planning
Commission
had
acknowledged
our
concerns
and
complaints
when
they
we
responded
to
the
commission's
500
foot
radius
letter,
in
which
we
requested
a
traffic
study.
Q
The
same
18
hired
an
attorney
to
write
a
letter
requesting
the
traffic
attorney
in
the
meeting
at
the
December
Mr
Newell,
summarize
the
legal
letter
and
stated
the
City
attorney
felt
it
had
no
merit.
He
also
told
the
council
that
several
residents
had
signed
it.
Here's
a
copy
of
the
the
letter
and
there's
18
residents
names
on
the
bottom
of
it.
So
it
lends
a
new
meeting
to
the
word.
Several.
Q
At
the
same
December
meeting,
the
Commissioners
were
never
told
of
the
500
foot
response
letter
from
the
18
committees.
These
people,
these
18
people,
mayor
council,
lived
within
the
500
foot
radius.
This
letter
was
sent,
and
here
are
the
names
of
the
18
people
that
were
on
the
legal
legal
letter.
Q
The
behind
curved
street
is
only
two
and
a
half
to
24
and
a
half
feet
wide
and
a
new
electrical
panel
precludes
it
from
being
widened.
The
new
adjoining
project
next
door
has
an
Ingress
egress
that
is
only
to
be
used
by
emergency
vehicles.
Q
C
Q
P
Yes,
we
go
forward
with
the
project
we'd
spent
about
a
year
and
a
half
approximately
prior
to
with
Flynn
and
the
department
to
determine
how
this
would
all
go
together.
However,
you
have
all
of
the
support
documents
for
the
gates
and
I
think
it
would
make
a
much
better
Community.
Thank
you.
F
So,
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
commend
a
developer.
I
know
a
lot
of
your
projects
and
they're
very
attractive.
I
know,
you've
done
quite
a
few
in
the
city
and-
and
this
one
in
particular
I
think
is
it's
a
very
attractive
project.
I
know,
there's
not
storefront,
but
I.
Think
the
shade
is
something
that
is
important
in
our
walking
areas.
So
I
like
that
I
I,
commend
that
it's
next
to
what
is
potentially
affordable,
housing
place.
F
I
did
look,
I
did
watch
the
whole
Planning
Commission
and
watch
the
look
at
carefully
at
the
at
the
plans
in
terms
of
whether
you
would
get
other
people
using
the
parking
I
know
there
is,
you
know,
use
only
three
spaces.
It
does
not
seem
like
it's
even
visible
from
when
you
would
drive
up
they're
sort
of
hidden
off
to
the
side.
F
F
Other
types
of
slow
signs
or,
if
you,
if
there
is
an
option
to
do
a
a
traffic
sign,
but
certainly
a
cautionary
thing
to
yield
and
private
property
I
particularly,
would
not
see
a
need
to
have
Gates
here,
but
I
do
like
the
project
and
I
and
I
think
it
should
go
forward
and
and
I
think
it'll
be
a
benefit
to
the
city.
Thank
you.
S
Thank
you
over
the
course
of
the
years
that
I've
been
on
Planning,
Commission
and
city
council.
We've
had
lots
of
different
on
whether
or
not
we
like
the
idea
of
gates
and
the
city
has
made
a
determination
that
we
don't
want
to
be
a
collection
of
gated
communities,
but
that's
not
what
we're
presented
with
here.
This
is
a
totally
completely
enclosed
site
convention
and
that
Mega
Mansion
wanted
to
have
a
fence,
in
essence,
a
gate
across
their
driveway.
S
They
could
do
so,
but
instead,
what
we
have
are
12,
relatively
affordable
units
in
art
to
have
the
same
right
that
any
other
homeowner
being
a
single
family
homeowner,
if
that's
how
this
was
being
traded,
would
be
treated.
There's
no
cross
traffic
that
is
going
on
here.
The
look
from
the
Street.
What
you
would
expect
to
see
in
any
kind
of
community
where
you
have
fences
across
driveways.
This
is
a
drive.
S
This
is
also
a
challenging
unit
of
piece
of
property
for
which
we
have
a
developer.
Who's,
come
up
with
an
incredibly
creative
solution
and
build
some
density
to
those
homes.
Things
that
we
have
said
we've
wanted.
We
have
a
developer
who's
building
off
of
the
Damned
area,
something
we've
said
we
want
to
have
done.
S
S
We
have
the
residents
of
the
area
asking
for
the
gates
to
the
owner
of
Mr.
Cunningham
wants
to
have,
and
we
have
history
with
Mr
Cunningham
building
gates
with
64
at
the
rib
I
was
part
of
the
approval
process
and
the
gates
improved
that
community
and
did
not
and
have
not
had
any
sense
of
breaking
down,
causing
a
community
night
to
be
something
that
could
be
accessed
and
I'm
going
to.
G
What
the
findings
are
that
we're
making
tonight
so
I
see
that
I
just
want
to
follow
the
law
here
so
I
see
the
staff
report
sites,
the
community
design
element
saying
that
we,
the
city,
decided
to
prohibit
gated
communities
and
entries
and
then
the
vehicular
access
Rule
and
the
zoning
code
saying
that
controlled
access
is
discouraged,
but
the
Planning
Commission
can
approve
it
where
the
applicant
can
establish
that
the
development
will
be
significantly
impacted
by
unauthorized
parking
from
adjacent
uses
or
traffic
impacts
and
will
not
negatively
impact
under
unauthorized
parking
traffic
or
Public
Safety.
G
So
can
you
just
explain
for
the
city
council
I
know
it's
a
de
novo
review,
but
can
you
just
explain
what
findings
were
required
to
make
tonight.
I
Councilmember
holstedge,
while
we're
looking
for
the
specific
fine
findings
for
the
council's
benefit.
I
do
want
to
clarify
for
the
record.
This
is
not
a
de
novo
review.
Had
this
matter
been
pulled
up
by
one
of
the
council
members
or
the
council
itself.
That
would
be
a
de
novo
review
in
this
case,
because
it
was
appealed
in
the
way
that
it
was.
The
council
really
should
look
be
looking
just
at
the
one
issue
that
has
been
appealed
from,
and
that
is
the
the
gate
issue.
I
Correct
you
still,
you
still
need
to.
You
would
still
need
to
uphold
the
findings
of
the
Planning
Commission
as
part
of
that,
but
really
what
the
the
item
that's
been
appealed
from
is
the
gate
issue
and
Mr
is
available
to
to
address
the
findings
issue.
R
In
terms
of
the
findings
for
this
particular
item,
what
the
city
council
should
look
at
is
consistency
with
the
city's
General
plan,
which
is
where
the
language
relative
to
Gates
lies.
In
this
particular
instance,
there's
been
testimony
given
and
comments
from
the
council
that
this
is
not
in
the
case
of
Walling
off
an
entire
neighborhood.
It
does
not
obstruct
the
network
of
streets,
and
so,
if
your
findings
were
such,
that
would
be
that
they
are
consistent
with
the
general
plan
in
that
it
does
not
wall
off
an
entire
neighborhood.
G
Thank
you
so
I
want
to
stand
by
the
general
plan.
That's
the
city's
long-standing
policy.
I've
sat
here
for
five
years
on
city
council,
going
on
six,
where
we've
denied
nearly
every
single
gate
request,
and
we
get
many
many
of
them.
G
We've
had
conversations
and
debate
about
if
Gates
make
neighborhoods
safer
because
of
alleged
Public
Safety
incidents
or
alleged
homelessness
incidents
and
we've
gone
around
and
around
and
often
the
council
majority
has
determined
that
Gates
do
not
make
us
safer
but
make
us
feel
safer
and
actually
that
can
lead
to
public
safety
issues
as
well.
So
I
do
not
support
reversing
the
planning
commission's
decision.
I
agree
with
their
findings
that
the
general
plan
prohibits
skated
communities.
N
Yeah
I
think
if,
if
the
the
one
item
that
stands
out
to
me,
that
we
really
did
put
a
lot
of
emphasis
on
and
and
that's
the
the
in
within
the
the
guidelines
that
the
applicant
could
establish
the
impact
of
on
Public,
Safety
and-
and
it
was
a
line
item
that
I
noticed
in
the
applicants,
letter
and
and
I
live
in,
that
neighborhood
and
and
I
I
see
it
almost
a
daily
basis
and
and
I
realized.
The
rest
of
this
block
is
going
to
be
developed.
N
We
don't
know
how
long
that's
going
to
take
and
when
the
whole
block
is
developed.
That
certainly
is
going
to
have
an
impact
on
the
the
transient
issues
that
occur
on
this
block
to
the
trespassing
to
the
damage
that
occurs
on
this
block
to
the
surrounding
businesses.
N
We
don't
know
how
long
that's
going
to
take
and
I
I
think
if
Planning
Commission
had
the
ability
and
guidance
from
you
know
the
council
that
we
want
to
look
seriously
at
some
of
these
public
safety
issues
and
and
if,
if
it
does
warrant
a
gate,
that
the
commission
might
have
that
leeway
to
give
a
heavier
consideration
to
proving
a
gate
and
and
if
the
applicant
can
come
back
in
a
year
or
two
years
and
show
that
there
is
Public
Safety
cause
and
there's
a
reason
to
put
the
gate
in
and
if
we
would
approve
that
in
a
year
or
two
years,
I'm
I'm
in
favor
of
letting
the
applicant
and
the
neighbors
that
have
asked
for
this.
N
Let
that
gate
be
installed
and
if,
if
in
the
reverse,
if
there
was
a
way
that
the
language
could
be
that
they
would
have
to
remove
it
after
two
years,
if
it
wasn't
proving
effective
I'm
in
favor
of
of
just
on
the
safety
side
that
we,
we
allowed
this.
This
development
to
have
have
the
gate
in
that
community
and
putting
a
lot
of
weight
on
the
neighborhood.
The
neighbors
comments
with
those
18
houses
within
500
feet:
that's
a
huge
percentage
of
of
houses
within
the
air
area
surrounding
this
lot.
S
F
R
Yeah
I
can
think
of
a
couple
of
instances
where
we've
had
developments
come
into
the
Planning
Commission
to
request
Gates,
but
those
requests
have
been
few
and
far
between.
Typically,
they
have
occurred
where
other
development
has
suddenly
come
nearby
or
there
has
been
a
significant
increase
in
crime
and
looking
at
those
reasons,
the
Planning
Commission
has
approved
at
least
two
instances
that
I
can
think
of
in
about
the
last
five
to
seven
years.
Okay,.
E
N
F
A
City
clerk:
do
we
need
to
make
an
additional
motion
at
this
time,
or
is
that
sufficient?
That's
efficient?
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Since
we
are
quite
ahead
of
schedule,
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
item.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
3A,
which
is
the
approval
of
city
manager,
employment
agreement
with
Scott
Styles
and
the
verbal
report
regarding
compensation
terms,
may
we
have
a
staff
report,
please.
I
Yes,
honorable
mayor
and
City
Council
Members
members
of
the
public
I'm
very
pleased
to
present
to
you
for
your
consideration,
a
potential
approval
of
a
city
manager,
employment
agreement
with
Mr
Scott
Stiles.
As
the
council
is
aware,
following
the
announcement
of
Mr
Clifton's
departure
in
July,
the
city
council
engaged
the
services
of
an
executive
recruiter,
Frank
Rojas
of
coffin
Associates,
the
city
council,
Dan
engaged
in
a
nationwide
search
for
public
agency
Executives
and
advertised
in
at
least
a
dozen
different
periodicals
and
sources.
I
The
city
received
68
resumes
as
a
result
of
that
those
68
resumes
were
reviewed
and
narrowed
down
to
18
candidates,
whose
qualifications
were
further
reviewed
by
the
city
council
and
the
top
five
were
invited
for
interviews
by
the
city
council.
As
part
of
that
interview
process,
the
city
council
conducted
several
interviews
several
rounds
of
interviews
and
also
engaged
Community
panels
to
seek
input
from
the
community
and
stakeholders.
I
I
He
currently
serves
as
a
city
manager
in
Garden
Grove
California,
where
he
has
served
since
2015
prior
to
his
service
there
in
Garden
Grove
Mr
Stiles
served
as
both
interim
and
assistant
city
manager
in
the
city
of
Cincinnati
Ohio,
where
he
served
since
2003.,
Mr
Stiles
and
the
city
attorney's
office
and
the
city's
executive
recruiter
engaged
in
negotiations
for
his
employment
contract,
which
resulted
in
the
attachment
to
the
staff
report
before
you
tonight.
In
accordance
with
the
California
government
code,
we
are
providing
this
verbal
report
regarding
the
compensation.
I
That's
provided
in
that
employment
agreement.
The
basic
terms
of
that
employment
agreement
include
commencement
of
term
on
Mark
Monday,
March,
6
2023,
with
a
four-year
term,
an
annual
salary
of
325
000
per
year
in
Auto
allowance
of
500
per
month,
a
peppera
pers
arrangement
with
two
percent
at
62.
I
10
hours
of
vacation
with
40
hour
per
per
month,
accruing
with
40
hours
of
admin
leave
per
year,
12
months
of
severance,
which
reduces
over
the
term
of
the
agreement,
a
payment
of
twelve
thousand
dollars
to
be
used
for
moving
expenses,
as
well
as
three
thousand
dollars
per
month.
For
the
first
six
months
for
temporary
housing,
allowance,
I
think
everybody
who
has
met
Mr
Styles
would
agree
that
he
comes
well
credentialed
and
everybody
has
been
in
favor
of
him.
I
A
F
I
I
have
to
say
Ron
and
I
were
not
involved
in
the
very
initial
part
of
the
the
city
manager,
but
search
but
I
think
we
all
like
Scott
very
much.
He
was
I
think
he
had
unanimous
approval
when
we
met
him.
When
we
met
him,
he
has
a
lot
of
experience,
which
is
really
interesting
for
Palm
Springs
Garden
Grove
has
a
very
diverse
Community.
They
have
a
large,
Vietnamese
and,
and
latinx
population
he's
put
together
a
navigation
Center.
They
rely
on
tourism.
F
F
He
has
great
stability,
he's
been
in
Garden
Grove
for
seven
years.
I
think
he
was
planning
to
stay
there.
That
I
think
this
was
the
only
job
he
applied
for
he
was
in
Cincinnati
for
20
something
years,
but
what
to
me
was
most
important
is
when
he
met
with
some
of
the
key
department
heads
who
all
supported
him
and
he
had
a
great
management
style,
one
that
really
was
about
push
about
giving
staff
and
the
team
opportunities
to
have
their
voices
heard.
F
S
It's
hard
to
top
what
Jeffrey
had
just
said,
but
one
of
the
things
that
we
tried
to
be
clear
on
throughout
this
process
and
both
the
former
Council
and
the
new
Council
were
very
unified
on
this.
Did
a
leader
who
was
going
to
be
able
to
inspire
all
of
our
employees
at
City
Hall.
All
of
the
many
departments
that
we
have.
S
We
have
a
very
good
team
of
people
working
for
the
city,
but
also
someone
who
would
engage
and
work
very
close
community
in
Palm,
Springs
and
Scott
Stiles
impressed
us
very
much
with
his
ability
to
do
both
of
those
things
he's
a
known
mentor
and
he
is
someone
who
gets
out
and
attends
community
events
that
are
going
on
in
the
community
that
he
serves
so
we're
looking
forward
to
and
to
be
the
stable
influence
that
we
need
in
the
city,
manager's
seat.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
I
know
that
Scott
is
watching
welcome.
We
are
very
excited
to
have
you
join
our
team
and
to
invite
your
family
to
our
community.
I
know
that
his
wife
Kelly
was
Googling
all
of
the
restaurants
and
was
excited
to
just
to
check
off
her
list
and
visit
all
of
our
local
shops
and
I
really
just
appreciate
the
enthusiasm
for
Palm
Springs,
not
just
from
Scott,
but
also
by
his
his
wife
and
two
daughters
at
this
time.
Would
anyone
like
to
make
a
motion
to
approve.
F
A
A
A
Thank
you.
Well,
we
are
moving
quickly.
I,
see
Council
agreed
with
my
advice
to
be
concise.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
3B.
It's
a
request
for
this
by
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
for
adoption
of
an
urgency
ordinance
to
implement
Senate,
Bill,
897
requirements
for
accessory
dwelling
units,
and
we
have
a
staff
report.
Please.
O
Yes
good
evening,
Madam
mayor
mayor,
Pro,
tem
and
members
of
council
item
3B
relates
to
a
request
for
the
council
to
pass
an
urgency
ordinance
to
establish
temporary
regulations
for
accessory
dwelling
units
and
Junior
accessory
dwelling
units.
This
urgency
ordinance
would
remain
in
effect
until
such
time
that
staff
can
return
with
a
full
ordinance
that
would
be
subject
to
review
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
a
hearing
here
at
city
council.
O
The
need
for
this
urgency
ordinance
arises
from
revisions
to
state
law
that
took
effect
on
January
1st
of
this
year
as
a
result
of
Senate,
Bill,
897
or
SB
897.
The
general
effect
of
those
changes
were
to
further
codify
state
regulations
that
make
adus
and
Junior
adus
broadly
permitted
throughout
the
state,
including
Charter
cities
such
as
Palm
Springs,
and
to
further
limit
the
ability
of
local
jurisdictions
to
regulate
adus
Beyond
a
limited
set
of
objective
standards.
O
The
city's
existing
ordinance
regulating
adus
is
already
quite
permissive.
However,
as
a
result
of
these
recent
changes,
it
has
become
null
and
void
as
a
matter
of
Law
and
it
may
not
be
enforced
until
it
is
brought
into
compliance
with
the
changes
to
state
law,
leaving
adu's
only
subject
to
a
limited
set
of
State
regulation,
with
no
local
oversight.
O
O
Sorry,
let
me
go
back
one
slide.
It
further
obligates
municipalities
to
clearly
outline
in
writing
any
reason
for
the
denial
of
an
Adu
and
that
applicants
be
provided
with
a
clear
list
of
issues
and
be
afforded
the
opportunity
to
correct
those
issues
to
obtain
approval
related
to
development
standards.
Today's
rules,
which
are
reflected
in
our
local
ordinance
state
that
the
maximum
height
of
an
Adu,
can
generally
be
16
feet.
O
However,
SB
897
has
increased
that
to
18
feet
for
any
Adu
that
is
proposed
within
sorry,
any
detached
Adu
that
is
proposed
within
a
half
mile
of
a
Transit
stop
or
in
a
multi-family
lot
and
up
to
25
feet
or
two
stories
for
any
attached
Adu,
where
it's
attached
to
a
principal
dwelling,
the
maximum.
There
is
25
feet
if,
if
the
underlying
zoning
has
a
height
limit
that
is
lower
than
25,
it's
subject
to
that
height
limit,
but
it's
up
to
25
feet.
O
Sb
897
also
expands
where
a
junior
Adu
is
permitted
to
include
any
attached
garage.
Today's
rules
state
that
they
are
permitted
within
an
existing
or
proposed
single-family
structure,
but
we're
not
clear
on
whether
that
included
the
attached
garage.
So
state
law
has
now
clarified
that
it
does
include
the
garage.
O
So
if
it's
non-complying,
we
can't
require,
as
a
condition
of
the
Adu,
that
changes
to
the
multi-family
building
be
made
to
bring
it
into
compliance
again
unless
there's
a
threat
to
public
health
and
safety.
And
finally,
SB
897
has
also
directed
that
a
local
jurisdiction
cannot
deny
a
permit
to
legalize
an
unauthorized
Adu,
regardless
of
when
it
was
constructed
unless
it
prevents
a
threat
to
public
health
and
safety.
O
And
so
today's
rules
I
believe,
do
not
put
an
obligation
on
municipalities
to
legalize
adus
that
were
constructed
before
the
original
Adu
laws
were
conceptualized,
and
this
would
change
that
to
say
any
unauthorized
Adu
should
be
legal
should
be
able
to
be
legalized
again.
Our
local
ordinance
is
already
quite
permissive,
but
this
urgency
ordinance
would
enact
necessary
revisions
to
remain
compliant
with
these
recent
changes
at
the
state
level
and
allow
our
existing
ordinance
to
become
enforceable
again
until
such
time
that
we
can
bring
back
a
fuller
ordinance
to
make
these
changes
permanent.
O
In
terms
of
next
steps,
we
will
be
working
on
the
broader
ordinance
that
will
be
developed
with
the
input
of
the
Planning
Commission
prior
to
returning
for
a
hearing
of
the
city
council.
Later
this
spring,
there
are
likely
other
development
standards
and
regulations
that
could
be
clarified
or
cleaned
up
to
ensure
that
our
ordinance
remains
effective.
In
light
of
these
changes,
so
we'll
bring
back
those
for
discussion
in
the
coming
months.
O
O
I'm
I'm
hoping
March
or
April
on,
depending
on
how
quickly
we
can
get
it
before
the
Planning
Commission,
but
we're
already
looking.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
sort
of
the
outline
here
in
what's
before
you,
so
we
have
the
revised
section
of
the
zoning
code
and
our
local
ordinance.
It's
a
piece
that
we
need
to
to
look
at
a
little
bit
further
or
what
other
changes
may
need
to
be
made
to
reflect
the
changes
that
were
made
in
the
state
law
as
well.
O
As
you
know,
looking
at
other
opportunities
we
may
have
to
you
know,
for
example,
obtain
pro-housing,
designation
or
other
ways
of
obtaining
state
grants
and
funding.
So
we
want
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
roll
those
conversations
together.
So
ideally
March
or
April.
A
You
councilmember
holstage.
G
Thank
you
so
much
last
time
we
did
probably
hours
of
work
just
as
the
city
council,
not
even
counting
staff's
time
and
the
planning
commission's
time
making
sure
our
Adu
ordinance
was
pro-housing
and
included
council's
priorities
Etc.
So,
instead
of
comparing
those
now
and
doing
that
work
now
it
sounds
like
that's
the
work
that
staff
and
Planning
Commission
will
include
in
their
review
of
an
ordinance,
a
permanent
ordinance
that
will
come
forward.
That's.
O
Right,
I
think
the
idea
in
bringing
this
as
an
urgency
ordinance
today
is
again
because
the
changes
took
effects.
January
1st,
our
ordinance
is
technically
no
longer
in
effect.
So
again,
any
Adu
would
be
subject
just
to
a
limited
set
of
Standards
at
the
state
level,
and
so
this
urgency
ordinance
allows
us
to
ensure
that
all
of
that
hard
work
is
still
enforceable
and
in
effect,
and
then
we
can
come
back
in
the
future,
with
something
more
thought
out.
G
Thank
you
and
do
we
have
any
data,
or
can
we
have
it
when
that
comes
forward
about
the
Adu
permits
and
Construction
in
the
city?
I
know
a
lot
of
the
debate,
Statewide
that
this
Council
and
others
have
debated
about.
Will
this
actually
turn
into
units
and
I
know
this
prior
councils
have
said
we
want
units,
so
is
there
a
way
that
we
can
kind
of
analyze
how
the
old
Adu
ordinance
worked
when
we
update
it.
O
Absolutely
we
can.
We
can
certainly
try
to
pull
some
data
to
see.
You
know
what
was
in
the
pipeline
and
certainly
what
kinds
of
impediments
people
were
facing
and
as
we
analyze
what
we
might
do
need
to
do
to
further
tweak
the
rules.
G
A
Thank
you
any
further
questions.
Any
further
comments
on
this
item.
Not
seeing
any
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
this
forward
and
we
look
forward
to
the
final
ordinance
coming
along
I
know.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
for
people
to
provide
additional
housing,
especially
for
students
or
for
seniors
or
just
anybody
that
needs
something
small.
So
we
really
appreciate
your
work
on
this
and
at
the
work
of
the
Planning
Commission.
Do
we
have
a
motion.
S
A
B
A
A
I
call
this
meeting
back
to
order.
The
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item
3C
oops
or
no.
We
now
I'm
getting
mixed
up.
Yes,
okay,
to
introduce
an
ordinance,
an
ordinance
to
the
city
council,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
amending
chapters
16.04
of
the
Palm
Springs
Municipal
Code,
entitled
general
rules
and
regulations
and
section
11.08.080
relating
to
trespass
and
on
residential
and
public
property.
May
we
have
a
staff
report?
Please?
Yes,.
I
Honorable
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
the
item
before
each
night
is
possible
first
reading,
introduction
of
an
ordinance
and
the
ordinance
deals
with
two
things.
One
is
it
deals
with
rules
and
regulations
for
trespass
on
Airport
property
and
then
the
second
portion
of
the
ordinance
deals
with
trespass
on
public
property
generally.
I
The
police
department
has
shared
with
us
the
city
of
LA's
ordinance
with
regard
to
LAX,
and
that
ordinance
provides
basically
that
no
person
shall
enter
any
restricted
area.
That's
posted
as
being
closed
to
the
public,
except
those
who
may
be
duly
authorized
to
do
so.
The
city
attorney's
office
looked
at
that
and
also
received
reports
from
the
LA
City
attorney's
office,
and
it's
our
understanding
that
they
don't
have
any
problems
enforcing
that.
I
I
With
regard
to
the
enforcement
of
this
provision,
I
I
think
if
you
ask
the
police
department,
they
will
tell
you
they
are
not
looking
to
use
this
ordinance
to
put
people
in
jail.
The
the
purpose
of
this
is
really
to
just
ensure
that
the
airport
property
is
used
for
airport
purposes
and
not
as
a
shelter.
The
city
is
certainly
doing
everything
it
can
to
provide
shelter
and
other
resources
for
homeless
individuals,
and
so
it'd,
be
my
expectation
and
I.
I
So
that's
the
first
portion
of
the
ordinance
before
each
night
dealing
with
the
airport.
The
second
component
of
the
ordinance
before
you
tonight
deals
with
public
property
in
general.
The
city
currently
has
an
ordinance
that
defines
trespass
on
public
property.
However,
in
order
for
it
to
be
effective,
there
needs
to
be
rules
and
regulations
promulgated
by
the
city
manager
and
approved
by
the
city
council
or
for
other
public
agencies
by
their
chief
executive
and
governing
board.
I
I
With
regard
to
the
city
property,
the
city's
Charter
delegates,
much
authority
to
the
city
manager
with
regard
to
General,
Administration
oversight
and
management
of
city
property,
and
so
this
ordinance
is
being
proposed
to
align
itself
with
that
Charter
provision
dealing
with
delegation
of
authority
and
remove
the
requirement
for
city
council
approval
of
the
rules
and
regulations,
at
least
for
city
property
for
other
public
agencies.
The
ordinance
still
requires
approval
by
their
governing
board
of
the
rules
and
regulations
before
it
becomes
a
trespass
on
their
public
property.
I
A
S
Thank
you.
My
question
is
for
Harry
and
for
the
police
chief.
Does
this
ordinance
as
it's
drawn,
give
you
the
authority
that
is
needed
to
be
able
to
remove
those
individuals
who
are
sleeping
in
the
Airport.
U
And
council
member
Middleton:
yes,
it
does
for
the
police,
also
after
warning
them
and
asking
them
to
leave.
We
certainly
can
remove
them
all.
S
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
Garner,
so
I
I,
I've,
been
to
the
airport
and
I
know
what
A
promise
is
and
I
know.
It's
been
tough
on
on
you
and
how
are
you
and
your
your
staff
and
and
and
I
know
it's
actually
been
difficult
for
the
I
know
the
USL
members
and
and
many
of
our
passengers,
some
of
I,
think
have
had
things
stolen
or
attempted
and
I
think
there
was
somebody
living
there
for
six
weeks
for
a
while,
so
I
understand
and
I
support.
F
This
I
want
to
ask
a
couple
questions,
and
also
it
says
in
here:
you've
had
more
than
two
million
I
think
you
were
close
to
3
million
passengers
last
year.
Is
that
right,
that's
correct.
F
So
we
talk
about
legitimate
airport
business
that
is
engaged
engaging
in
permitted
Commerce
such
as
shopping
at
the
airport,
restaurants
or
shops,
or
renting
dropping
off
a
rental
car.
But
what
prevents
someone
from
getting
a
cup
of
coffee
and
and
bringing
10?
And
you
can
wait
for
or
escort
an
individual.
So
what
happens
with
10
people,
one
person
buying
a
cup
of
coffee
and
and
being
there
for
hours
or
overnight.
T
So,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I'll
answer
for
the
airport.
You
know
we
routinely
inspect
our
facilities.
Our
operation
staff
routinely
inspect
our
facilities
and
we
generally
have
a
good
idea
of
who's
there
for
business
or
for
travel
and
who
might
be
loitering
or
seeking
shelter.
So
as
we
go
throughout
our
day
and
observe,
what's
happening,
whether
it's
via
our
inspections
or
through
CCTV,
we
begin
to
get
a
sense
for
when
we
may
need
to
engage
with
our
Police
Department
or
when
we
won't
need
that
support.
Once
our
folks
are
notified.
T
We
then
refer
to
the
police
department
to
make
the
ultimate
decision
we'll
stop,
usually
and
speak
with
the
individuals
first,
just
to
get
a
sense
for
if
they
need
help
you
know
or
if
they're
waiting
for
their
flight
or
whatever.
But
once
we've
done
that
vetting.
We
usually
refer
to
the
police
department
to
keep
an
eye
on
them
and
then
from
there
I
think
the
chief
can
speak
to
how
enforcement
would
work.
U
Now
it's
on,
like
in
much
of
law
or
criminal
law,
is
concerned.
It's
a
it's
a
test
of
reasonableness,
what's
reasonable
under
the
circumstances
to
an
objective
person.
So
if
a
person
is
sitting
there
with
a
cup
of
coffee
in
their
hand
and
they're
sipping
their
coffee
and
it
takes
a
while,
then
that's
obviously
going
to
be
fine.
U
Many
of
us
do
that,
but
if
it
becomes
a
cup
of
coffee
that
lasts
seven
or
eight
hours,
that
becomes
more
unreasonable
and
that's
when
we
have
engaged
the
person
in
dialogue
and
discussion
and
based
on
what
they're
telling
us
that
can
become
get
to
the
point
where
now
we
no
longer
are
at
a
place
where
we're
discussing
and
now
we're
taking
action.
U
But
we
will
of
course,
collaborate
with
the
airport,
as
well
as
the
people
in
the
airport
to
make
sure
that
we're
seeing
things
correctly
and
and
making
sure
that
we're
offering
resources,
if
that
is
what's
needed,.
F
So
you're
comfortable,
this
doesn't
give
them
too
much
leeway.
Yeah!
That's
really!
My
question:
I
I
know
that
you
wouldn't
I.
Just
don't
want
someone
to
start
using
this
to
claim
that
they
could
be
there.
So,
okay
and
you
said,
if
you
remove
them,
you
would
help
find
them
shelter.
U
Well,
we
had
people
living
in
the
airport,
for
instance,
and
we
sent
them
across
the
street
to
the
to
the
well,
and
many
of
them.
I
took
up
them
up
on
the
offer
there,
especially
initially,
and
there
are
other
resources
available,
such
as
hotel
vouchers
and
other
things
that
we
can
get
access
to
should
we
need
to.
But
the
reality
is
for
many
of
these
people.
It
becomes
a
matter
of
choice
and
they
have
to
be
adults
and
find
out
where
they
can
go,
should
they
so
choose
and
I
was
out.
U
The
airport
numerous
times
talked
with
many
of
the
people
that
were
there
and
all
of
them
were
functioning,
capable
people
that
I
spoke
with
and
certainly
could
find
a
place
on
their
own.
Should
they
so
choose.
U
You
know
from
what
I
learned
from
my
officers,
who
were
stationed
at
the
airport
is
that
one
person
took
up
residency
and
then
specifically
solicited
other
homeless
individuals
to
take
our
presidency
there.
Also
that
happened
to
be
the
person
that
we
had
a
long
discussion
with
and
decided
to
go
back
to
Toronto,
Canada
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
once
that
got
started
now
we
just
needed
a
leverage
point
to
say
the
airport
is
no
longer
an
acceptable
place
to
be.
N
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
really
appreciate
the
comprehensive
staff
report.
So
thank
you
for
presenting
the
details
that
you
presented
in
the
report
today.
You
know
I
the
other
thing
that
I
appreciate
is
at
first
when
I
read
The
Lax
code
and
what
we
were
facing.
Our
information
on
I
I
thought
well,
wow.
That's
it's
such
a
broad
code.
It
seems
like
it
would
be
a
very
functional,
and
why
aren't
we
following
that?
N
But
I
I,
I
I
I
appreciate
breaking
our
proposed
ordinance
down
to
being
more
specific
and
I
think
according
to
our
City
attorney,
that
is
putting
us
in
a
better
position
legally
down
the
road
in
their
opinion,
so
I
I
support
the
ordinances
presented
and
the
fact
that
our
airport
director
and
the
police
chief
feel
that
this
is
a
tool.
That's
that's
going
to
allow
them
to
better
better
do
the
work
in
the
city
is
I,
fully
support.
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor,
thank
you
to
staff
and
our
police
chief
for
bringing
this
forward
and
all
your
work
on
this
very
much
appreciate
it
in
talking
to
the
City
attorney,
and
your
report
just
now
stated
that
the
city
has
an
administrative
policy
before
any
enforcement
action
occurs.
Palm,
Springs,
PD
or
you
know,
whoever
responds
on
behalf
of
the
city
typically
provides
cert
information
about
housing
and
services.
G
The
chief
indicated
our
Access
Center,
which
is
available
to
folks
who
are
unhoused,
so
is
that
on
the
books
now,
so
if
we
approve
this
trespassing
ordinance
applying
to
the
airport,
the
police
will
continue
to
use
that
administrative
policy
to
offer
housing,
referrals
and
information
about
services
to
folks
before
they're,
enforcing
the
ordinance.
U
From
the
police
perspective,
we
will
follow
that
policy
each
and
every
time
we
contact
a
homeless
individual.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
referring
them
to
the
resources
of
which
they
can
Avail
themselves
if
they
so
choose,
and
we
have
pamphlets
made
up
that
we
hand
out
regularly,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
it's
done,
especially
every
time
there's
going
to
be
any
enforcement
action
taken.
G
Thank
you
Chief
really
appreciate
that
and
then
I
just
have
a
question
about
the
list
of
activities.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
staff
if
the
airport
purposes
are
enough,
so,
like
renting
a
car
isn't
included,
do
we
need
to
include
that
some
people
might
go
to
the
airport
just
to
rent
a
car
in
that
airport
area
where
the
car
rental
stations
are
like?
Are
there
other
uses
that
we
need
to
specify,
or
do
you
think
this
is
comprehensive
enough
to
include
those.
T
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I
think
there
are
potentially
other
uses
that
we
should
specify.
However,
what
we've
included
in
there
is,
generally
those
are
generally
the
day-to-day
activities
that
we
see
in
that
covers
about
80
percent
of
what
we
do
at
the
airport.
G
Got
it
and
it
says
other
among
other,
similar
customer
service
uses
so
I
think
that
would
Define
renting
a
car
is
probably
another
customer
service
use,
getting
a
TNC
or
a
ride
share
right.
Those
might
be
customer
service
uses.
So
I
think
that
the
definition
too
is
probably
fine,
though
you
might
want
to
review
and
think
through.
If
there
are
other
uses
we
should
specify
later
and
then
I
just
have
a
question
about
migrants.
G
So
I
know
that
we've
received
a
number
of
migrants
over
the
years
through
the
migrant
crisis
through
the
county
through
people
traveling.
Sometimes
people
essentially
have
no
place
else
to
go
because
they're,
a
migrant
and
don't
have
travel
plans
yet
or
something
like
that.
So
is
this
policy?
G
But
do
you
think
that
will
be
under
this
policy
because
they
have
a
ticket
or
be
because
they're
traveling
through
the
airport?
Could
you
just
make
sure
that
that
migrants
would
be
safe
under
this
policy.
G
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
by
council
member
to
heart
and
a
second
from
mayor,
Pro,
tem,
Bernstein
and
just
quickly
to
say
thank
you
for
bringing
forward
this
ordinance
and
doing
so
in
a
kind
way
and
to
help
us
move
forward
in
this
process
and
help
our
unhoused
and
not
just
criminalize
their
actions.
It's
obvious
that
we
need
more
support
and
housing,
which
is
part
of
why
we're
building
the
navigation
Center
and
why
we
added
some
overnight
beds
at
the
access
center.
A
We
need
to
add
more
I
know
that
work
is
ongoing
by
the
county
and
other
and
the
city
and
other
workers
and
in
terms
of
the
migrants,
there
are
several
different
organizations
that
are
are
working
on
this
issue,
including
lift
to
rise.
The
there's
several
Catholic
churches,
the
Galilee
Center.
The
list
goes
on
and
on
so
we
can
work
with
the
airport
staff
and
those
nonprofits
to
make
sure
we
have
plans
in
place
to
ensure
or
that
even
those
without
tickets
are
provided
some
temporary
space
before
their
flights.
H
A
V
V
Madam
mayor
we'd,
like
to
have
the
city
council,
provide
input
on
the
types
of
proposals
to
pursue
for
the
future
use
of
these
three
single-family
residential
Parcels.
The
Lots
range
in
size,
from
7
400
square
feet
to
9,
100
square
feet
and
nine
thousand
five
hundred
square
feet
and,
as
you
can
see
on,
the
map
are
located
in
the
desert.
Island
gateways,
States
neighborhood.
V
So,
with
these
single
family
lots
and
the
approval
of
Senate
bill,
nine
There's
an
opportunity
to
do
lot,
splits
which
allow
for
a
two
unit
developments
and
then
an
additional
opportunity
to
add
duplexes
on
each
of
the
resulting
Lots.
Creating
the
opportunity
to
create
12
new
units
and
each
of
these
half
Lots
may
have
two
dwellings,
which
would
be
the
duplex
or
some
other
form
of
property.
V
And
as
we
look
at
the
potential
here
for
use
of
these
properties,
we've
also
discussed
in
the
past
the
possibility
of
doing
demonstration
projects
on
these
properties
to
show
the
benefits
of
photovoltaics,
solar,
water,
heating
and
battery
storage
to
be
added
to
residential
units.
V
There's
also
the
issue
of
how
much
it
costs
to
build
housing
nowadays,
so
another
possible
demonstration
project
could
have
to
do
with
new
Construction
Technologies
and
materials
such
as
using
recycled
materials,
3D
printed
concrete
homes
and
compressed
fiber
cement
sheets.
V
So
on
this
slide,
you
can
see
the
Senate
Bill
9
opportunity
just
something
to
consider
doing
a
program
such
as
a
Sweat,
Equity
or
self-help
type
of
project,
where
individuals
who
may
buy
the
properties
assist
with
the
construction
of
the
properties.
That
does
take
a
little
training
and
some
professional
project
management
oversight.
V
V
And
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
net
positive
homes
for
energy
saving
cost
efficient,
Construction
Technologies
and
there's
also
the
possibility
of
supplementing
home
ownership
with
down
payment
assistance
programs
to
go
along
with
the
development
of
new
homes
on
these
properties,
and
you
may
include
other
criteria
as
you
wish.
But
for
now
that
concludes
a
presentation
and
if
there's
any
particular
approaches
or
Direction,
the
council
would
like
to
provide
we're
happy
to
consider
it
and
listen.
A
R
V
A
Success
free
agency
with
their
their
hours
and
that's
a
big
deal,
and
especially
with
sb9,
allowing
us
to
divide
the
Lots
further
and
have
the
opportunity
to
to
really
make
a
huge
impact,
not
just
in
this
neighborhood
but
for
the
entire
city
and
the
when
I've
talked
to
community
members
about
what
they'd
like
to
see
in
this
neighborhood
over
and
over
again
it.
It
goes
back
to
this
The
Sweat
Equity
the
opportunity
to
create
generate
to
own
and
create
generational
wealth.
A
There
are
many
members
of
the
desert,
Highlands
Gateway,
States
Community,
who
are
renting.
There
were
folks
who
took
advantage
of
you,
know
very
low
prices
in
that
neighborhood
quite
some
time
ago,
who
own
many
of
the
properties
and
there
therefore
they've
been
rentals
and
there's
folks.
Who've
lived
there
for
Generations
who
do
not
own
a
home.
A
So
it's
an
opportunity
to
to
hopefully-
and
that's
going
to
be
a
question
for
first
half
to
hopefully
to
be
able
to
give
some
priority
preference
to
people
who
are
living
in
that
neighborhood
and
then,
of
course,
that
would
open
up
rental
spaces
once
they
were
to
to
move.
But
that's
that's.
One
of
my
first
questions,
for
you
Jay,
is,
is
what
is
our
ability
as
a
city,
to
provide
priority
preference,
because
I
know
that
there
are
laws
that
that
may
prevent
us
from
from
making
a
list
so
to
speak
and
saying
you're
next.
V
Yes,
mayor
in
conversations
with
the
city
attorney,
it's
it's
my
understanding
that
this
can
be
done
as
long
as
it
does
not
become
a
pattern
for
the
city
to
prioritize
certain
groups
for
for
for
projects
that
the
city
engages
in.
A
Thank
you,
I
think.
The
intent
here
was
simply
that
we're
adding
homes
in
a
neighborhood
where
there's
many
folks
who
are
looking
to
purchase
and
would
not
otherwise
have
that
opportunity
and
wanting
to
help
Palm
Springs
residents.
I
know
that
this
is
a
question
that
comes
along
even
with
our
other,
affordable
housing
developments
where
you
cannot
to
say
only
Palm,
Springs
residents
can
go
into
those
properties.
So
that's
why
there
was
the
question
of
of.
If
it
is
possible,
I
know
it
is
tricky.
G
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
Jay.
Could
you
just
explain
the
context
or
the
background
for
some
of
some
of
this,
so
your
you're,
requesting
that
the
city
council
give
you
Direction
on
issuance
for
a
request
for
proposal
for
the
three
single
family
lot,
so
you're
going
to
see
which
council
is
interested
in
or
if
there
are
a
few
Council
interested
and
then
you're
going
to
craft
their
requests
for
proposals
from
there
is
that
right?
Could
you
just
give
us
a
little
more
narrowing
of
that?
So
do
you
want
us
to
pick
one
of
these
options?
G
Are
there
programs
where
it
could
be
various
or
multiple?
Have
you
had
any
conversations
with
affordable
developers,
affordable,
housing
or
other
housing
developers?
So
you
know
what
might
be
possible?
Could
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
more
from
what
direction
about
what
direction
Council
should
give
you
right
now?
Yes,.
V
Absolutely
council,
member,
you
know
in
the
past
staff
had
actually
been
directed
to
just
sell
the
properties
and
have
the
funds
return
to
the
successor
agency
housing
funds.
At
that
time
there
were
no
buyers,
and
so
so.
V
The
property
was
not
sold
and
different
concepts
were
evaluated.
So
all
these
ideas
had
come
up
about
demonstration
projects
and
what
could
be
done
and
we
were
never
able
to
really
narrow
down
the
focus
at
that
time
on
how
to
draft
the
RFP
to
get
these
properties
out
into
the
world
and
make
better
use
of
them.
So.
V
With
the
upswing
in
the
real
estate
market,
not
surprisingly
the
phone
rang
a
few
times,
and
it
was
some
of
our
non-profit
developers
who
indicated
that
they
would
be
interested
in
in
purchasing
the
properties
or
arranging
to
have
a
program
conducted
on
these
properties
and
which
is
kind
of
prompting
the
suggestion
for
the
request
for
proposals
and
as
it
there's
there
was
interest
by
a
handful
of
non-profits.
V
So
it
seems
like
it
does
have
to
be
a
competitive
process,
and
so
through
this,
if
there's
a
desire
to
create
that
asset
building
opportunity,
that
would
be
great
but
there's
trade-offs.
If
we
also
believe
that
well,
you
know
we
really
should
look
into
taking
advantage
of
all
the
The
Net
Zero
possibilities
that
would
probably
increase
the
cost
of
construction
and,
frankly,
end
up
being
a
request
for
additional
subsidy
from
the
city.
V
But
if
that's
a
goal,
the
council
would
like
to
see
that
could
potentially
be
built
in
and
there
are
benefits
such
as
lower
energy
bills.
So
that's
something
to
think
about.
It
could
be
let's
issue
the
RFP
and
developers
give
us
your
best
shot.
If
you
can
address
all
these
at
a
fair
price,
that
would
really
be
great.
G
So
really
grateful
for
your
perseverance
here.
I
have
another
question:
if
you
know
off
the
top
of
your
head-
or
maybe
you
can
pull
it
now
or
later,
but
are
there
more
vacant
Lots
in
that
area
or
in
the
neighborhood
to
purchase
an
ad
to
a
program?
I
know?
Initially,
when
we
talked
to
Coachella
Valley
Housing
Coalition
in
27
17,
it
might
have
been
2019.
G
I
know,
council,
member
Middleton
and
I
were
on
the
affordable
housing
committee
and
I
think
we
had
some
of
those
conversations
and
they
said
they
needed
scale,
so
they
needed
that
it
was
more
efficient
to
do
multiple,
multiple
housing
units,
as
opposed
to
just
two
or
three
I,
think
they
told
us
at
that
time.
They
couldn't
do
just
three.
G
So
has
that
changed
because
of
the
lot
split
opportunity
and
are
there
opportunities
for
us
to
use
our
housing
funds
to
purchase
more
Parcels
that
we
could
add
into
a
program
that
usually
wants
to
do?
I
was
on
the
board
of
Coachella
Valley
Housing
Coalition
for
a
little
bit
before
I
was
elected
I
think
they
do.
You
know
much
much
larger
scale:
self-help
programs
when
they're
able.
V
Yes,
in
terms
of
additional
properties
in
the
area,
there
are
other
properties
and
lots
that
are
vacant.
There
were
a
number
of
properties
put
up
for
sale
over
the
summer
we
tried
to
respond
and
acquire
some
of
them
Unfortunately.
They
moved
very,
very
fast
and
were
purchased,
and
those
are
some
of
those
were
single
family
law.
Some
of
those
were
more
mixed:
commercial
and
residential
lots
almost
fronting
on
Indian
Indian
Canyon.
V
So
yes,
in
that
regard,
and-
and
you
know,
we
do
keep
our
eyes
open
for
other
opportunities
as
they
come
up
so
programmatically.
We,
we
could
also
think
about
using
our
available
funds
to
continue
a
program
like
this,
as
as
it
moves
forward,
this
particular
opportunity
has
to
do
with
properties
we
already
own,
so
it's
disposing
of
them
and
kind
of
shaping
how
they
can
be
used
in
the
future.
V
If
we
were
to
go
out
and
purchase
properties
as
the
city,
we
may
also
have
to
deal
with
the
new
law
of
surplus
Land
Act,
which
makes
it
a
little
more
difficult
to
dispose
of
the
properties.
However,
for
affordable
housing
purposes,
I
believe
we
could
declare
properties
as
exempt
Surplus
and
then
move
forward
with
projects
and
plans
to
have
them
developed
as
affordable
housing.
V
But
that
would
you
know,
eliminate
the
option
in
this
case,
of
just
selling
the
properties
for
market
rate
in
regards
to
the
the
scale
and
being
able
to
needing
to
have
more
units
to
construct.
Yes,
the
sb9
opportunity
does
help
with
that.
It
could
potentially
create
more
units,
but
also
one
of
the
non-profits
told
me
they've
kind
of
tweaked
their
model
where
the
Sweat
Equity
is
not
necessarily
a
a
crude
or
built
or
earned
building
the
house.
V
It
can
be
through
other
service
and
they
are
able
to
just
bring
on
contractors
to
construct
the
homes
and
then
the
individuals
would
contribute
their
Sweat
Equity
by
working
in
other
capacities
doing
service.
So
it's
it's.
It
has
changed
a
little
bit
since
we
last
spoke
with
one
of
those
developers,
and
so
there
seemed
to
be
more
opportunities
to
pursue.
At
this
point,.
G
Thank
you
can
I
ask
just
one
more
question
and
you're
choosing
an
RFP
process
request
for
proposals,
that's
specific.
Instead
of
like
a
request
for
ideas
or
another
like
more
open-ended
process.
That
would
allow
the
developers
and
the
community
to
give
more
input
in
it
or
allow
Council
to
pick
from
a
broader
array
of
like
real
ideas
versus
these
Topics
in
a
vacuum.
V
G
G
Thanks
yeah,
so
I'd
love
to
see
us
do
home
ownership
option.
That's
what
we've
been
hearing
from
the
community
I'm
very
interested
to
hear
what
my
fellow
council,
members
and
colleagues
think
as
well,
but
Dieter
Crawford
gave
me
a
tour
in
2017
when
I
was
first
elected
and
showed
me
these
lots
and
asked
me
to
do
something
about
them.
I'm,
so
glad
the
council
is
considering
them
now
and
I
really
think
the
community
should
have
an
input
in
what
this
program
looks
like
and
what
works
for
them.
G
I
don't
live
in
that
neighborhood,
so
I'm,
not
a
good
person
to
decide,
but
I've
heard
again
and
again
home
ownership
with
Sweat
Equity
or
mortgage
assistance,
and
the
need
to
have
multiple
units
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
F
Thanks
Jay
I
mean
this
was
actually
really
interesting.
Seeing
all
these
other
types
of
building
options
that
I
didn't
even
think
of
so
just
a
question
if
we
just
sold
the
Lots
at
fair
market
now,
do
you
have
any
idea
what
they
would
sell
for.
V
The
2017
appraisal
was
thirty,
five
thousand
dollars,
I
think
maybe
45
to
50
000..
That's
it:
okay,
yeah,
okay,.
F
On
page
five,
you
say:
lots
in
single
family
residential
zones
may
not
be
split
to
create
two
primary
I
thought.
These
can
be
split
to
be
create
two
primary.
V
I
can
double
check
that
I
believe
the
requirement
might
have
been
a
primary
and
an
Adu
type
of
unit,
but
but.
F
F
V
V
R
R
I
I'd
have
to
take
a
closer
look
at
our
sb9
regulations
to
see
if
we
can
do
that,
there's
some
language
about
the
property
owner
remaining
on
site,
and
so
we
have
to
be
careful
with
that.
I
I,
don't
think
we
could
rent
all
12
of
them
as
rental
units,
so
there
has
to
be
some
type
of
ownership
on
each
of
the
sites.
Okay,.
W
F
R
F
Okay
and
when
we're
talking
about
a
getting
a
developer
in.
K
F
Do
we
and
they
get
either
a
Sweat,
Equity
or
or
or
do
Mortgage
Assistance?
How
do
we
ensure
that
the
people
stay
in
the
homes
and
is
there
programs
to
help
them
is
it?
Is
it?
Is
there
programs,
first
of
all,
to
help
them
to
learn
how
to
apply
or
how
to
get
a
mortgage
or
go
through
the
process
if
their
first
time
homeowners?
It's
not
an
easy
process
right.
V
That's
something
the
non-profit
very
typically
helps
out
with
providing
home
ownership
classes
and
helping
the
individuals
go
through
the
process
of
completing
their
documentation.
In
fact,
some
have
relationships
with
banks
that
can
help
reduce
interest
rates,
so
they
can
purchasing
the
property
is
easier
for
the
low-income
family,
so
process
wise
and
there's
there's
a
lot
of
assistance.
It's
a
program,
okay,
where
the
developer
assists.
V
Now
what
the
city
typically
does
is
record
covenants
on
the
property
that
require
individuals
comply
with
that,
have
a
certain
income
qualification
and
remain
in
the
property
for
a
certain
amount
of
time
and
by
having
covenants
on
the
property.
If
there
was
an
attempt
to
sell
the
property,
you
know
we'd
be
notified,
we
would
know
we'd
be
in
the
chain
of
title,
so
we
would
control
and
know
when
those
events
happen.
Okay.
F
S
Thank
you.
Apologize
for
mailing
some
internet
issues,
so
I
have
to
go
off
video
from
some
time.
I
I
support
the
comments.
I've
heard
previously.
I
think
our
priority
on
this
should
be
to
prioritize
local
residents,
who
are
long-term
residents
of
the
desert
island
Gateway
neighborhood
to
be
the
owners
of
these
homes
and
Home
Ownership
should
be
a
priority,
and
time
should
be
a
priority.
S
There
are
many
different
avenues
that
we
could
go
down,
but
if
they're
going
to
take
us
detour
us
months
and
years
Beyond
another
approach
that
would
get
homes
to
local
residents
at
an
earlier
period
of
time,
I
favor
moving
more
quickly,
all
of
The
Sweat,
Equity
programs
and
the
like
are
things
we
should
take
advantage
of
the
more
homes
we
can
get
built
and
owned
by
local
residents
the
better,
but
they
need
to
be
homes
that
people
want
to
live
in
and
that
they
will
want
to
stay
in
and
let's
be
careful
not
to
get
too
crowded
with
the
homes
and
have
something
that
is
not
a
place
that
people
want
to
raise
their
families
and
thank
you.
N
Looking
at
family
are
the
the
size
square
footage
that
can
be
built.
You
know
I'm
a
little
concerned
on
having
two
units
on
the
lot.
If
we
are
talking
about
having
growing
families
in
a
1500
square
foot
house,
when
the
slot
can
really
accommodate
a
larger
home,
100
percent
behind
the
home
ownership
opportunity
and
if
there
was
a
way
to
give
priority
to
Desert
Highland
residents,
certainly
in
favor
of
that
but
Community
Land
Trust
isn't
one
of
the
options
Jay
is.
V
My
understanding
is
a
Community
Land,
Trust
might
be
an
entity
that
owns
the
property
and
that
purchases
properties
for
the
possibility
of
producing,
affordable
housing,
affordable
units-
and
this
is
and
then
through,
that
the
Community
Land
Trust,
possibly
an
entity
of
the
city,
could
do
ground
leases
for
the
development
of
homes
on
those
properties
and
the
advantage
of
that
is
through
the
ground
lease.
You
control
the
terms
a
little
better
and
you
could
provide
ownership
of
the
building
to
the
individual,
but
the
Community
Land
Trust
would
retain
ownership
of
the
land.
N
But
the
homeowner
homeowner
can
still
sell
over
time
and
and
there's
there's
guidelines
and
restrictions
on.
You
know
what
what
profit
they're
you
know,
they're
able
to
take
a
certain
profit,
their
based
off
of
the
the
time
and
there's
a
there's
a
calculation
for
that.
Isn't
there.
V
Yes,
there's
a
calculation
for
it
and
again,
my
understanding
is
the:
as
property
is
valued
in
terms
of
land
value
and
Improvement
value,
the
owner
would
be
able
to
sell
the
Improvement
Improvement
value
side.
The
building
and
the
Community
Land
Trust
would
retain
the
land
as
ownership.
A
Thank
you
I
appreciate
all
the
comments
that
we've
heard
so
far.
I
do
think
that
it
is
important
that
we
move
forward
on
this
as
quickly
as
we
can,
as
council
member
holstedge
said
as
well.
This
is
something
that
was
first
discussed
in
2017
and
I'm
sure
it
was
discussed
prior
to
that,
but
that's
just
in
our
Collective
memory
as
a
council
and
and
definitely
was
the
one
of
the
first
things
that
I
heard
from
the
community
when,
when
I
first
campaigned
in
2019.
A
The
other
thing
too,
just
in
terms
of
the
size
1500
square
feet
is
about
the
size
of
most
of
the
homes
in
the
neighborhood.
So
it
is
consistent
with
with
what
we,
what
we
see
it's
about,
1300
to
1500
square
feet,
some
of
the
homes
on
East
Gate,
which
were
built
at
the
time
of
the
mountain
gate.
Development
are
a
bit
larger,
but
even
those
are
are
on
the
smaller
side
of
what
you
see
in
the
mountain
gate
development,
so
just
to
put
that
out
there
for
folks,
I'm
I'm.
A
What
I'm
hearing
so
far
is
that
we
want
home
ownership
opportunities
for
folks
in
the
neighborhood
that
we
would
like
density,
but
with
keeping
in
mind
that
we
want
people
to
feel
comfortable
and
and
and
happy
in
their
home
and
not
too
smushed,
and
that
we
do
want
to
hear
from
the
from
the
community,
but
not
to
the
point
of
delaying
the
delaying
this.
This
work
Jay
is
there
additional
information
that
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
to
provide
to
you
at
this
point.
A
It
yeah.
Let's
go
ahead
when.
F
We
I
I,
agree
with
I
agree
with
everything.
Mayor
said:
I
just
with
the
homeownership
I
would
prefer
that
it's
first
time
homeowners.
It
would
be
ideal
if
it
was
people
who
are
in
the
neighborhood
who
had
previously
rented
or
now
have
an
opportunity
to
buy
I.
Think
that
would
be
the
ideal
scenario
for
me
and
whether
it's
through
Sweat,
Equity
or
or
or
assistance
either
way
is
good
with
me.
A
Thank
you
and
and
I
think
that's
that's
correct.
We
are
looking
to
assist
with
first-time
home
buyers
and
I
think
that
is
what
I've,
what
I've
heard
in
the
neighborhood
as
well
so
Jay
is
there.
Are
there
additional
more
specific
comments
that
you'd
like
to
hear
from
this
I
know
that
that's
fairly
Broad,
where
I
think
you
see
here,
council
is
willing
to
to
discuss
more
if
you'd
like.
V
No,
that
is
very
helpful.
That's
clear
direction,
home
ownership,
some
density
and
hearing
from
the
community
is
all
doable
and
very
helpful.
Thank
you,
mayor.
G
For
decades,
I
saw
the
big
project
that
was
in
the
1990s
shockingly
it's
been
30
years,
since
the
1990s
and
I
I
would
love
to
see
us
do
a
larger
footprint
than
just
three
lots,
especially
if
there
are
lots
to
purchase
or
other
Parcels
of
land
that
the
city
could
purchase
and
then
bundle
together
to
do
a
larger
project,
which
is
what
Coachella,
Valley
Housing
Coalition
recommended
that
we
do
in
2017
in
2019.
When
we
first
discussed
this
so
Jay
I
know,
I
asked
you
on
the
spot.
G
V
I,
it's
it's
slightly
different
council
member,
but
if
the
council
wishes
this,
this
is
something
that's
you
know
not
uncommon,
and
if,
if
the
direction
is
to
seek
out
and
purchase
lots
that
are
not
improved,
we
can
definitely
do
that.
If
it's
to
seek
out
homes
that
are
for
sale,
we
can
do
that
and
if
it's
to
provide
down
payment
assistance,
so
individuals
could
also
on
their
own,
find
homes,
town
homes
or
Condominiums,
to
purchase
as
a
first-time
home
buyer
program.
We
can
also
do
that.
V
So
we're
happy
to
bring
back
details
of
a
program
like
that
and
have
you
consider
it
or
if
you
want
to
you
know,
have
any
further
discussion
where
we're
happy
to
do
that.
Also.
G
Thank
you
I
think
it's
up
to
council
I'm
interested
in
what
council
things
you
know,
I.
What
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while
with
different
councils
has
been
doing
a
self-help
home
ownership
program,
whatever
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
Mortgage,
Assistance
or
Sweat
Equity
Etc,
but
doing
it
and
being
able
to
purchase
a
number
of
lots
in
that
community.
So
we
can
do
it
at
a
larger
scale
than
three
parcels.
G
N
Yeah
I
I,
like
the
idea
Christy
our
council
member
hostage
of
of
seeking
additional
properties,
but
I
would
hate
to
hold
up
the
progress
on
these
three
lots
to
move
forward
immediately
to
at
least
get
these
going
and
at
parallel
you
know,
staff
can
be
looking
at
additional
lots
that
we
can.
We
can
consider
to
bring
into
you
know
the
mix
here,
but
I
I
would
hate
to
add
anything
into
the
mix
that
would
slow
down
movement
on
on
these
three
lots
that
we're
talking
about
here
today.
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
to
Hart
and
I
I
agree
with
my
fellow
council
members
that
I'd
love
to
see
something
come
back
about
what
the
process
would
be
for
buying
vacant
lots
and
even
purchasing
homes
that
maybe
are
unoccupied
and
in
the
same
situation
that
we
heard
about
this
morning
with
or
this
morning,
it
feels
it
feels
like
we've
been
here
longer
than
we
have
earlier
in
this
meeting
with
derelict
properties.
A
The
other
thing
that
I've
learned
is
that
there
are
several
families
in
the
neighborhood
who
own
some
of
these
lots
and
and
I
can
list
off
at
least
five
just
off
of
the
top
of
my
head
and
there's
been
just
difficulties
in
being
able
to
build
on
them,
but
they
are
the
owners,
so
I
would
love
to
also
hear
about
what
we
can
do
to
assist
those
families
in
building
on
their
Lots.
In
some
cases
there
the
lots
are
right
next
door
to
where
they
currently
live.
A
So
how
do
we
help
to
to
Really
build
out
this
community,
which
we
know
will
improve
property
values
for
everybody
in
the
neighborhood,
we'll
provide
housing,
we'll
reduce
crime,
I
mean
there's
so
many
benefits,
and
this
is
one
of
our
only
neighborhoods
that
has
this
significant
number
of
lots
still
available
in
the
entire
city
of
Palm
Springs,
anything
else
from
Council
nope,
okay.
Well,
thank
you.
Jay
really
appreciate
all
of
the
effort
that
you
put
into
this
and
thank
you
Council
for
supporting
this
I
really
appreciate
it
see.
A
R
R
R
One
of
the
items
discussed
was
relative
to
consolidating
the
licensing
process.
Currently
we
require
a
permit
and
a
license.
The
idea
was
to
consolidate
those
two
together.
We
were
also
directed
to
look
at
revising
the
definitions
for
specified
anatomical
parts
and
specified
sexual
activities,
give
the
city
council
options
in
looking
at
those
revisions.
R
We
were
also
advised
to
look
at
the
residential
separation
distance
requirements,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
had
proposed
was
using
the
term
adjacent
and
I'll
get
into
further
discussion
about
that
later
on.
In
the
presentation
and
then
finally,
we
looked
at
expanding
Zone
districts
where
adult
uses
could
be
located
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
decided
upon
or
Direction
was
given
was
relative
to
allowing
it
in
the
C2
or
General
commercial
Zone,
District
Let
me
Give
a
Little
Bit
of
background
on
our
adult
business
ordinance.
R
The
ordinance
itself
was
last
amended
in
1995
and
with
the
Advent
of
the
internet,
adult
businesses
have
changed
substantially,
and
so
the
adult
ordinance
is
out
of
date,
and
it
is
important
that
we
keep
our
Municipal
Code
up
to
date
as
Industries
change.
It's
important
that
our
regulations
change
with
that
one
of
the
things
that's
unique,
perhaps
about
adult
businesses
is,
they
are
permitted
by
right.
R
One
of
the
things
that's
a
little
confusing
is
there
are
certain
types
of
operations
that
are
exempt
from
our
adult
business
ordinance
here
in
Palm
Springs,
we
have
a
number
of
clothing,
optional
hotels.
Those
are
not
considered
to
be
adult
businesses
and
are
not
covered
by
this
ordinance
in
a
similar
manner.
R
Retail
businesses,
where
the
amount
of
products
adult
products
sold
constitutes
less
than
10
percent
of
their
square
footage
or
selling
space,
is
not
defined
as
an
adult
business,
and
so
it's
exempt,
and
so
those
are
two
categories
of
businesses
that
are
not
subject
to
the
adult
business
ordinance
and
sometimes
that
becomes
a
little
bit
confusing
in
terms
of
updating
the
Ordinance.
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
proposing
to
do
is
to
streamline
and
condense
the
use
categories.
R
However,
I
have
had
a
couple
of
comments
from
council
members
and
in
discussions
with
the
city
attorney
that
we
might
eliminate
that
category,
since
we
don't
have
any
currently
that
qualify
under
the
definition
of
that
and
combine
that
with
our
adult
sex
venue.
The
other
category
that
we're
proposing
is
an
adult
retail
establishment.
Formerly
this
would
have
been
an
adult
bookstore
or
an
adult,
Motion,
Picture,
arcade
and
so
again
consolidating
those
uses
into
four
categories
and
potentially
eliminating
the
adult
hotel
and
consolidating
that
into
the
adult
sex
venue.
R
Another
area
where
we're
looking
at
potential
changes
is
relative
to
separation,
distance
in
terms
of
Separation
distance
from
protected
uses,
which
would
be
things
such
as
Parks
schools,
youth,
centers,
Etc,
we're
proposing
to
increase
that
from
500
feet
to
600
feet.
The
basis
for
that
change
is
to
make
it
consistent
with
other
separation
distances,
for
example,
in
our
cannabis
ordinance
cannabis.
Businesses
have
to
be
a
minimum
of
600
feet
from
protected
uses,
and
so
we're
looking
to
do
that
in
order
to
maintain
consistency
from
our
protected
uses.
R
As
I
had
mentioned,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
to
change
is
relative
to
the
separation
from
residential
uses.
Currently
that
requirement
is
650
feet.
What
we're
proposing
is
that
it
not
be
adjacent
to
residential
Zone
districts
in
terms
of
the
definition
of
adjacent
that
means
directly
abutting
a
residential
Zone
District
or
across
the
street,
from
a
residential
Zone
district,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
we
still
continue
to
protect
residential
areas
from
adult
businesses
is
by
using
this
definition
of
adjacent.
R
We
also
have
a
separation
distance
from
another
other
adult
uses.
Excuse
me:
no
adult
business
can
be
adjacent
to
another
adult
business.
So
what
that
helps
to
do
is
prevent
saturation
in
certain
areas
of
adult
businesses.
R
R
So,
on
this
map
you
see
a
variety
of
colors,
typically
or
generally
anything
on
this
map.
Any
Street
that's
shown
on
this
map.
Adult
businesses
would
not
be
allowed
on
those
streets
with
the
color
designation,
so,
for
example,
Palm
Canyon,
Drive,
Indian,
Canyon,
Drive,
Vista,
Chino
Ramon
adult
businesses
would
not
be
allowed
on
those
streets.
R
R
Getting
more
specific
into
the
C2
Zone,
if
city
council
chooses
to
expand
to
see
two
Zone
properties,
I've
got
a
couple
of
maps
that
I'd
like
to
show
you
which
identify
the
areas
where
C2
Zone
properties
are
located.
The
first
is
in
the
vicinity
of
Sunny
Dunes
Road
and
South
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
and
I'm,
showing
here
in
the
image
in
red
properties
that
are
Zone
C2
again
taking
into
consideration
that
adult
businesses
are
not
allowed
on
major
thoroughfares.
R
The
C2
Zone
properties
that
are
directly
on
South
Palm,
Canyon
Drive
would
not
be
allowed
to
have
adult
businesses
it's
only
when
you're
further
back
from
South
Palm
Canyon
that
those
businesses
could
occur.
In
addition,
we
also
have
to
be
mindful
of
separation
from
residential
areas.
So,
let's
see
back
here
off
of
belardo,
we
have
Parcels
that
are
zoned
residential,
so
we
couldn't
have
adult
businesses
directly
adjacent
to
those
Parcels
either.
What
that
leaves
is
about
two
or
three
Parcels
on
Sunny
Dunes.
That
would
be
eligible
for
adult
businesses,
and
currently
those
Parcels
are
undeveloped.
R
R
It's
also
where
we
have
the
back
street
Arts
District
in
looking
at
those
Parcels
because
of
adjacency
to
East
Palm
Canyon,
which
is
a
major
thoroughfare
and
then
also
looking
at
adjacency
to
residential
areas
that
we
have
an
apartment,
complex
back
here
on
Matthew
and
Lyndon,
as
well
as
the
mobile
home
parks
that
sit
back
here
due
to
those
two
factors.
No
adult
businesses
would
be
allowed
on
these
Parcels
as
they're
currently
situated,
so
that
essentially
eliminates
this
area
from
consideration
for
adult
businesses.
R
R
Let
me
just
go
back
to
the
discussion
of
adjacent,
in
particular,
looking
at
the
industrial
properties
on
Sunny
dunes
and
Industrial
Place,
using
the
Restriction
of
not
being
adjacent
to
Parcels
that
are
on
Calle,
Palo
Fierro
would
not
be
allowed
to
have
adult
businesses,
because
there
is
residential
immediately
across
the
street.
However,
here
on
industrial
place
and
going
further
up
on
Sunny
Dunes,
those
Parcels
that
are
not
immediately
adjacent
to
residential
would
be
allowed
to
have
adult
businesses.
One
of
the
unique
things
about
this
area
is,
we
do
have
Tahquitz
Creek.
R
That
is
not
a
public
right-of-way.
It
is
a
separate
parcel
of
land
that
exists,
and
so
that
would
not
prohibit
adult
businesses
from
being
located
on
the
south
side
of
industrial
place,
even
though
there
is
residential
across
Tahquitz
Creek
to
the
South,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
make
that
clear,
because
there
had
been
questions
from
members
of
the
public
in
terms
of
being
able
to
locate
businesses
in
that
area.
R
Moving
on
just
going
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
the
licensing
process,
as
I
had
mentioned,
we
currently
require
both
a
business
license
and
adult-oriented
business
permit.
The
direction
was
to
consolidate
those
into
a
single
license
and
approval
process.
I've
met
with
our
finance
department
and
our
planning
department
to
discuss
how
that
might
work,
and
we
believe
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
move
forward
with
consolidating
that
process,
while
still
giving
adequate
review
of
adult
businesses
as
business
owners
come
forward
to
look
at
obtaining
a
license.
R
One
of
the
things
that
we
want
to
do,
however,
is
to
retain
the
fees
that
we
collect
for
both
of
those
the
permit
and
the
license.
There
is
approximately
a
twenty
seven
hundred
dollar
fee
for
the
business
permit
and
that's
to
do
the
review
that's
necessary
on
the
part
of
planning
in
evaluating
the
parcel
and
then
also
looking
at
the
additional
review
that
we're
doing
with
the
police
department
for
certain
adult
oriented
businesses
in
developing
a
security
plan.
R
There's
a
number
of
other
General
changes
that
we're
proposing
to
make
to
the
adult
business
Ordinance.
One
of
those
I
had
discussed
earlier
and
that's
the
retail
threshold
for
exemption
from
being
considered
an
adult
business
I
had
considered
bumping
that
up
from
10
percent
of
their
selling
space
to
20
percent
of
their
selling
space.
The
basis
for
that
was
looking
at
businesses
that
we
have
in
commercial
areas,
for
example
on
Arenas,
where
the
amount
of
adult
products
may
push
the
limit
of
10
percent,
and
so
in
order
to
accommodate
those
businesses.
R
I'd
recommend
that
we
increase
that
to
20
percent.
One
of
the
things
that
has
been
mentioned
by
a
couple
of
council
members
is,
we
have
in
addition
to
the
percentage
limitation.
We
also
have
a
square
footage
limitation.
What
I
would
suggest
is
we
could
just
keep
that
at
the
percentage
limitation,
I
think
that
would
be
adequate
in
looking
at
how
that
might
be
applicable.
R
Another
thing
that
we
are
proposing
to
require
is
a
security
plan,
that's
approved
by
our
Police
Department
for
adult
sex
venues
and
adult
entertainment
establishments.
Much
like
we
already
require
for
nightclubs.
We
think
that
would
be
appropriate
both
for
the
police
department
to
review
those
establishment
and
also
for
the
safety
of
the
patrons
of
those
establishments.
R
We
are
considering
modifying
the
operating
hour
limitations
to
match
that
of
alcohol
venues
and
so
that
they
would
be
closed
from
2
A.M
to
6
a.m,
similar
to
nightclubs,
Etc.
There's
a
rather
lengthy
discussions
about
interior
configuration
requirements.
R
We
are
proposing
to
eliminate
those
and
rather
evaluate
those
on
a
case-by-case
basis
as
part
of
the
security
plan
that
we
review
for
those
businesses
and
then
there's
other
requirements
that
are
already
addressed
by
the
zoning
code,
for
example,
parking
requirements
and
outdoor
lighting
requirements,
I'm
proposing
to
eliminate
those
and
just
refer
to
the
zoning
code
requirements.
So
as
we
update
those
in
the
zoning
code,
they
would
also
be
applicable
to
us
adult
businesses.
R
One
of
the
considerations
there
is
that
by
inviting
non-hotel
guests
to
the
property,
we
have
concerns
about
parking,
also
holding
special
events
at
hotel
properties,
because
many
of
them
are
located
in
residential
neighborhoods
concerns
about
noise
and
impacts
to
adjacent
Residential
Properties.
What
I
would
propose
to
you
is
that
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
a
separate,
permitting
process
for
special
events
at
our
hotel
properties,
as
well
as
the
issuance
of
day
passes
and
provide
a
separate
regulatory
program
for
those
things,
and
so
I.
R
Don't
really
want
to
go
into
details
tonight
about
that
relative
to
the
adult
business
ordinance,
but
rather
feel
there's
another
way
to
address
that.
Another
thing
to
take
into
consideration
is
that
hotels
in
residential
zones
and
Commercial
zones
cannot
have
adult
uses,
as
they
are
in
the
inappropriate
Zone
to
do
so,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that's
clear
as
well
with
that,
let
me
transition
from
the
adult
business
ordinance
to
the
public
nudity
ordinance.
R
R
One
of
the
other
things
that
we
had
questions
about
is
what
constitutes
a
public
place
and
where
is
the
public
nudity
ordinance
applicable?
There
were
concerns
that
public
nudity
on
private
property,
for
example,
your
own
private
residence,
would
be
subject
to
the
public
nudity
ordinance,
and
so
we
wanted
to
clarify
and
make
sure
that
private
property
is
exempt
from
that.
R
What
we
found
was
actually
there's
a
very
good
definition
in
Indian
Wells
that
uses
the
term
where
there
is
the
expectation
of
privacy
so
relative
to
private
property,
where
there's
the
expectation
of
privacy,
the
public
nudity
ordinance
is
not
applicable
in
those
situations
and
then
similar
to
other
cities.
We've
maintained
language
relative
to
the
fact
that
it's
not
applicable
to
children
under
the
age
of
six
or
live
theatrical
performances.
We've
also
provided
examples
from
other
cities
in
terms
of
their
ordinances.
R
R
One
of
the
things
I'll
confess
I,
don't
think
that
we
got
a
consensus
on
from
our
city
council.
Discussion
in
November
was
whether
or
not
the
public
nudity
ordinance
should
exempt
City
permitted
events
such
as
parades
and
so
we've,
given
you
some
language
to
consider,
but
we
would
like
input
from
city
council
if
you
would
like
us
to
exempt
City
special
City,
permitted
special
events
and
parades.
R
A
Thank
you
so
much
Flynn,
that's
really
helpful
and
comprehensive
I
know
we
do
have
two
new
council
members
here.
A
F
Okay,
so
first
of
all
I
I
appreciate
city,
council
and
staff.
Having
done
most
of
a
lot
of
the
work
last
time,
I
realized
it
was
somewhat
uncomfortable
for
some
people
and
obviously
very
detailed
and
lengthy,
so
I
I
appreciate
that
and
I've
actually
had
a
lot
of
experience
in
with
adult
businesses
and
and
my
former
life
and
FCC
rules,
and
things
like
that.
So
a
couple
questions
when
we
do
the
the
business
permit
for
adult
oriented
businesses,
how
detailed
information
can
we
get
like.
R
You
know,
city
council
can
detail
in
the
ordinance
itself
what
you're
expecting
to
see
on
those
types
of
applications
or
what
you
want
staff
to
review.
Typically
for
an
adult
oriented
business,
we
would
require
some
type
of
a
floor
plan.
We
would
obviously
require
some
type
of
discussion
of
what
activities
or
what
materials
they're
going
to
be
selling.
R
You
know
getting
into
adult
sex
venues
or
adult
entertainment.
We
want
to
look
specifically
at
the
layout
in
terms
of
security,
and
so
we
want
to
look
at
interior
configurations
of
those
as
well,
but
essentially
city
council
can
determine
what
you
want
to
evaluate
as
part
of
that
application
process.
So
if
there's
additional
things,
you
want
us
to
look
at
please
let
us
know.
F
So
in
Sunny
Dunes,
where
that
industrial
district
is
separated
from
the
wash
I
mean
you
know,
there
are
some
of
the
buildings
I
guess
they
can
build
a
wall
so
that
they're,
basically
their
business,
is
completely
not
visible
from
from
or
the
the
patrons
of
their
business
or
activities
are
not
visible.
Is
that
the
case
in
all
the
industrial
districts
where
you
might
have
a
sex
venue?
Is
there
places
where,
where
a
resident,
even
if
they're,
not
adjacent,
could
still
view?
What's
going
on.
F
I
Seems
to
be
shaking
his
head,
yes,
I
think
we
could
I
think
as
opposed
to
other
adult
businesses
such
as
bookstores
and
live
entertainment
and
theaters,
which
are
much
more
protected
by
the
first
amendment.
I
think
that
an
adult
sex
venue,
as
as
drafted
and
has
proposed
the
city
has
a
lot
more
flexibility
and
authority,
and
there
are
certainly
other
health
implications
and
so
I
think
I
think
that
would
be.
F
F
We
haven't
legally
allowed
a
sex
venue
in
the
city.
No,
we
have
not,
okay
and
in
terms
of
the
public
nudity
we
made
it
gender
neutral.
So
we
we
took
out
the
requirement
for
covering
any
part
of
the
female
breast,
or
is
there
any
other
city
that
you
know
besides
San
Francisco?
That
does
that.
R
F
R
F
For
the
public
nudity,
when
we
determine
what
is
considered
nudity
and
what's
not
so
right
now,
it's
basically
just
genitalia
anus
and
perineum
that
can
you
be
any
public
place
as
long
as
that's
covered,
I
mean
a
park
or
a
community
center.
R
What
we
have
the
ability
to
do
is
we
still
have
the
ability
to
determine
what
is
acceptable
at
our
parks
and
our
community
centers.
So,
for
example,
The
Swim
Center
has
policies
in
terms
of
what
is
permissible
in
terms
of
swimwear
that
can
still
occur,
and
so
we
still
have
the
ability
to
establish
policy
relative
to
public
facilities
in
terms
of
the
public,
Community
ordinance.
F
R
F
Okay
answer
that,
so
the
question
then
really
is
where
we
could
limit
like
parks
and
but
walking
down
the
street.
You
can't
limit
public
if
they're
covered
appropriately.
According
to
our
ordinance,
you
can't
limit
that.
R
All
right
correct,
we
do
have
some
additional
language
in
the
enforcement
section
relative
to
the
ability
of
the
police
to
make
determinations.
But
generally,
you
are
correct
that
we
can't
limit
that
in
public
areas
based
on
the
language
of
the
ordinance
Okay.
F
So
so,
if
we
wanted
to
limit,
if
we
wanted
to
have
address
requirements
for
what
you
could
be
in
in
Chambers,
we
could
do
that
correct.
Okay,
all
right
and
bars,
and
restaurants
ABC
has
their
own
rules
about
what
people
can
do
in
there.
Yes,
they
do.
Okay.
F
Those
are
my
questions.
I
have
some
comments,
but
I
can
wait
until.
A
Let's
find
out
because
this
is
a
big
topic.
Are
there
any
additional
questions
before
we
move
into
comments?
N
Yep
Flynn
council
member
Bernstein
just
asked
a
question
about
somebody:
who's,
a
someone
showing
breasts
in
a
restaurant
or
a
business
along
Palm
Canyon.
And
what
was
your
answer
to
that?.
R
So
the
public
nudity
ordinance
is
applicable
to
public
places,
so
public
rights
of
way
public
parks,
Etc
in
terms
of
private
property
such
as
a
restaurant,
a
restaurant
is
subject
to
the
zoning
code
and
also
under
the
municipal
code.
The
definition
of
an
adult
business
where
specified
anatomical
parts
are
exposed
may
qualify
that
as
an
adult
business.
R
So,
for
example,
where
a
restaurant
is
in
a
commercial
Zone,
not
in
an
industrial
Zone,
it
wouldn't
be
permitted
to
have
waitresses
if
you
will
topless,
because
that
would
qualify
it
as
an
adult
business.
An
adult
business
needs
to
be
in
an
industrial
Zone
and
needs
to
have
an
adult
business.
Permit.
N
R
N
Yeah,
okay,
all
right
thanks!
So
in
in
your
presentation,
you
talked
about
in
seeking
separation
of
distance
and
defining
protective
use
or
or
adjusting
protected
use,
and
we
changed
from
500
to
600
feet
for
schools
and
and
correct.
R
That
is
correct
for
schools,
Parks,
youth,
centers,
Etc.
N
Yeah,
okay
and
then
the
next
bullet
point
or
so
down
in
the
presentation
we
increased
or
no,
we
didn't
put
in
foot
a
linear
footage,
we're
talking
about
just
being
adjacent
to
so
what's
what's
the
we're
increasing
the
distance
from
schools
and
parks
for
the
use
defining
protected
use?
R
R
Currently,
however,
because
of
residential
adjacency
requirements,
it
makes
most
of
the
properties
in
that
area
ineligible,
and
so,
while
our
Municipal
Code
allows
them
in
industrial
districts,
the
separation
distance
is
really
what
limited
where
they
could
locate
and
so,
for
example,
properties
on
Industrial,
Place
properties,
adjacent
to
Caye,
Palo
Fierro
were
not
allowed
to
have
adult
businesses
because
they
were
within
that
650
feet,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
had
the
discussion
at
the
last
meeting
about
changing
that
requirement
to
not
adjacent
to
as
a
means
to
still
offer
protection
to
residential
areas,
while
allowing
the
businesses
to
locate
within
those
industrial
areas
where
it
may
be
appropriate.
N
N
It
okay,
then,
you
talked
about
the
layout
of
a
I,
think
it
was
sex
spending
at
floor
plan
interior
floor
plan
and
that
we
weren't
going
to
have
requirements
stipulated
and
that
would
be
reviewed
on
a
permit
by
permit
basis
is
that
right?
That
is
correct.
N
R
So
in
terms
of
the
existing
ordinance,
it
gets
into
rather
specific
detail
about
doors
and
openings,
and
things
like
that,
which
is
a
little
problematic
to
work
with
in
terms
of
what
we
are
proposing,
we're
looking
at
the
specific
use,
and
it
would
be
adult
sex
venues
that
we
would
look
at
as
well
as
adult
entertainment
venues,
so
a
bar
or
a
nightclub.
And
so
what
we
are
looking
at
in
terms
of
both
of
those
venues
is
number
one.
R
Etc,
and
so
those
are
the
things
that
we
were
looking
at,
and
so
it
really
comes
down
to
applying
the
city's
building
code
and
then,
in
addition
to
that,
looking
at
security
requirements
from
our
Police
Department.
N
N
You
are
sharing
page
24th,
see
items
a
paragraph
C
up
on
the
top
of
the
page,
optional
language,
any
to
any
permitted
parade,
fair
Festival
held
under
a
city
or
other
government-issued
permit
I
I
shared
previously
that
I
think
I
I'm
in
favor
of
that
language,
including
that
language
and
I
I,
appreciate
that
it's
being
added
or
suggested
that
we
added
but
I
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
say
parade
fair
Festival
when
we're
saying
any
permitted
event
held
under
a
city
or
other
government
issue
permit.
N
N
The
the
only
other
item
that
I
I
I
I'm
challenged
with
is
page
13
seconds
of
the
last
paragraph
and
I've
mentioned
it
previously,
but
for
Council
to
under
know
that
I.
My
concern
is
even
though
we're
talking
about
hotels
having
a
future
better,
defining
hotels
and
and
boutique
hotels
and
residential
areas.
N
We
don't
have
that
today,
using
that
last
sentence
where
we
say
an
adult
sex
venue
is
also
any
place
that
represents
itself
to
any
person
or
group
of
persons
as
a
place
for
persons
to
engage
in
specified
sexual
activities.
N
N
I
I
would
rather
wait
and
see
what
our
language
is
going
to
be
when
we
Define
or
better
Define
the
use
of
the
boutique
hotels
or
hotels
that
are
in
residential
zone
property,
but
also
flush
out
the
definition
for
hotels
or
not
even
hotels,
anywhere,
like
you
know,
Convention
Center,
hotels,
public
venues
that
would
do
what
staff
is
trying
to
achieve
with
identifying
sex
venues,
but
also
excluding
if
there
could
be
some
exclusion.
R
Think
one
of
the
quick
fixes
to
that
is
to
identify
in
that
definition
that
it
primarily
holds
itself
out
to
be
a
location
where
those
activities
take
place.
That
would
distinguish
it
from
a
hotel
whose
primary
purpose
is
to
rent
rooms
to
have
accommodations
overnight,
accommodations.
So
I
think
there
is
a
quick
fix
to
that
definition.
To
kind
of
carve
that
out
and.
I
I
think
the
definition
of
adult
sex
venue-
it
is
defined-
to
mean
any
establishment
not
primarily
dedicated
to
providing
overnight
lodging
accommodation.
So
that's
already
in
the
definition
that's
being
proposed,
so
a
hotel
that
is
primarily
dedicated
to
providing
overnight
lodging
accommodations
would
not
fall
into
the
definition
of
adult
sex
venue.
N
But
that
also
excludes
private
events
on
at
the
convention:
center
Jason,
Convention,
Center
property,
non-hotel
events
that
might
be
happening
or
locations
where
something
may
happen
where
it's
not
a
hotel.
N
The
bank,
for
example
the
old
Bank
building.
You
know
any
of
our
any
of
our
our
businesses
or
our
bars.
That
would
possibly
could
play
a
host
to
a
special
event,
so
I
I
understand
the
overnight
lodging
accommodation
has
been
is
in
that
first
sentence
there.
N
But
what
about?
If
it's,
not
a
primary
lodging
establishment.
I
The
the
definition
goes
on
to
say,
which
is
a
regular
and
substantial
course
of
conduct
permits
persons
to
engage
in
specified
sexual
activities.
So
if
it
were
a
business,
that's
normally
you
know
a
just
a
Convention,
Center
or
you
know,
type
of
a
center,
but
it's
not
as
irregular
and
substantial
course
of
business.
Maybe
it
holds
one
or
two
a
year,
then
I
don't
think
it
would
fall
into
the
definition
of
adult
sex
venue
because
I
don't
think
we
would
consider
that
irregular
and
substantial
course
of
conduct.
I
N
Yeah
excellent
I
appreciate
that
and
inserting
the
work
primarily
again
on
that
last
sentence,
Flynn
I,
think,
is
a
a
very
good
suggestion.
Last
item
for
me
is
on
page
19
22,
paragraph
22d,
where
we're
saying
the
operators
shall
ensure
the
facility
is
maintained
in
a
sanitary
condition.
I
I
didn't
hear
in
your
report
Flynn
that
that
we
were
going
to
put
definition
as
to
what
that.
What
does
that
mean.
R
I
agree
that
we
probably
need
more
specificity.
There
I
had
done
some
research
earlier
today,
looking
at
other
communities
in
terms
of
their
health
and
safety
standards.
For
these
types
of
venues,
I'll
need
to
do
some
additional
work
on
that
and
come
back
to
the
city
council.
One
of
the
things
that
LA
county
has
done
is
they
identify
that
it
needs
to
be
maintained
in
a
sanitary
condition
and
then
gives
the
public
health
officer
the
ability
to
adopt
regulations
which
Define,
what
that
is
or
adopt
policy
which
defines
what
that
is.
R
We
might
do
the
same
here
for
the
city
of
Palm.
Springs
is
then
adopt
policy
identifying
what
those
conditions
are,
but
I
will
need
to
do
some
additional
research
on
that
and
council
member
de
heart,
while
we're
on
the
subject.
One
of
the
things
you
and
I
discussed
also
was
adding
an
annual
spec
inspection
requirement
for
our
adult
or
oriented
businesses,
and
that's
something
that
I
would
also
add
to
that
section.
In
terms
of
the
license
renewal
process
requiring
an
inspection
by
City
staff
annually
at
a
minimum.
N
Yeah,
okay
and
and
just
a
note
in
that
same
paragraph
22,
that's
where
it's
calling
out
Health
standards,
safe
sex
supplies,
condoms
lubricants
should
be
made
available
to
patrons
and
training
and
educational
materials
be
made
available,
so
staff
you
got
that
covered
in
in
that
paragraph.
So
thank
you
for
that
and
that's
all
the
questions
I
had
mayor.
Thank.
A
S
Thank
you
first
Flynn
really
good
job
on
a
very
difficult
subject.
So
thank
you.
I
want
to
go
to
the
question
of
expanding
into
the
C2
zones.
Are
any
of
our
current
adult
oriented
facilities
in
a
C2
Zone?
S
No,
they
aren't
so
given
the
fact
that
when
we
look
at
C2
and
the
number
of
potential
sites
that
are
actually
workable,
is
there
any
point
really
in
expanding
just
YouTube.
R
In
looking
at
the
parcels
that
would
become
eligible
only
resulting
in
two
to
three
parcels
and
they're,
currently
undeveloped,
it's
a
little
bit
problematic
to
think
about
expanding
to
C2.
However,
again
this
is
the
decision
of
city
council.
If
you
still
feel
it's
appropriate
to
do
so,
we've
written
the
ordinance
to
allow
that.
S
So,
given
those
couple
of
parcels,
I
believe
are
in
Sunny
Dunes,
my
neighbor,
my
district.
If
the
undeveloped
parcel
was
to
have
a
developer,
who
wanted
to
develop
those
Parcels,
would
they
be
able
to
request
a
zoning
change
if
necessary,
in
order
to
build
a
facility
that
we
have
approved
through
the
planning
process,
including
the
Planning
Commission.
R
S
And
next
question
I'm
going
to
keep
my
questions
really
pretty
brief:
the
definition
of
public
nudity
in
adopting
the
San
Francisco
definition
as
opposed
to
the
definition,
that's
common
for
every
other
city
in
the
Coachella
Valley.
You
did
so
because
that
was
one
that
was
essentially
gender,
neutral.
S
U
Different
I
don't
have
any
concerns
with
the
statute
as
it
has
been
presented.
My
concerns
are
the
enforcement
of
it
and
the
reasonableness
should,
for
us
the
more
complex,
a
ordinances,
more
difficult.
It
becomes
to
enforce
so
the
simpler,
the
language
and
the
more
plain
it
is,
the
the
better
for
our
officers
and.
U
Not
necessarily
I
mean
if
it's,
if
the
council
so
chooses
to
put
in
a
gender
neutral
language
permitting
the
exposure
of
the
breast
that
is
clear
to
us,
and
then
the
language
as
it's
proposed
makes
sense
to
me
overall.
S
Without
getting
too
far
in
the
comments,
there's
at
least
one
city
council
member
who
does
not
believe
the
gender
of
neutrals
is
an
appropriate
ideal
for
the
nudity
hardness.
A
A
A
Let's
hear
folks
comments
first
and
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
determine
if
there's
a
need
to
create
a
small
group
to
further
discuss
these
items.
Councilmember
holstedge,
you
had
a
comment.
Thank.
G
You,
madam
mayor
I,
don't
believe
I
asked
questions.
My
apologies
go
ahead.
Sorry,
it's
been.
It's
been
a
long
night,
even
though
it's
early
for
us
I
just
have
a
few
questions.
If
I
can
so
I
am
interested
in
the
age
limit,
so
I
saw
that
you
included
stuff
included
age.
Six
and
I
did
see
that
most
other
cities
did
have
10,
though
it's
various
varied
in
terms
of
the
age
that
the
public
needed,
P
ordinance,
would
apply.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
either
Chief
or
someone
else.
G
Whoever
is
appropriate
to
answer
that
why
we
chose
six.
If
we
think
that's
too
early,
if
there's
a
if
we
should
go
with
it,
looked
like
most
of
the
Coachella
Valley
Cities
had
10
age
10,
so
Chief
do
you
have
any
input
there
about
what's
appropriate
based
on
normal
standards.
U
I,
don't
know
about
based
on
normal
standards,
because
I've
not
done
a
survey
to
find
out
broadly
what
the
age
limits
are
in
cities,
but
from
an
enforcement
perspective.
The
further
you
are
away
from
puberty
I
think
the
better
for
our
ability
to
to
understand
what
who
can
be
clothed
and
who
cannot
be
clothed.
G
Thank
you
and
to
Flynn
I
know
you
referenced
the
survey
that
staff
did
I'm,
trying
to
pull
up
the
page
number
so,
but
nearly
all
of
them
that
I
saw
had
age,
10
or
maybe
younger,
but
not
age.
Six,
it
seemed
to
be
out,
although
San
Francisco's,
age,
five
but
age,
six
seemed
to
be
like
a
large
outlier.
R
About
that
I
wouldn't
say
it's
a
large
outlier,
it's
one
that
other
cities
have
adopted
and,
interestingly
enough,
San
Francisco
is
five,
which
I
didn't
quite
expect
in
doing
the
research
again.
This
is
really
up
to
community
preference
in
terms
of
what
you
all
feel
is
best
for
Public,
Safety
and
Welfare.
R
10
is
what
other
communities
have
adopted.
Six
is
what
some
have
adopted
and
again
I
think
either
way.
You've
heard
the
police
chief's
comments,
but
either
way
what
you
all
as
council
members
feel,
is
appropriate.
We're
more
than
happy
to
make
those
changes.
G
Thank
you
and
then
I
have
a
question.
So
the
current
ordinance
and
the
last
ordinance
have
a
ban
on
tipping
workers,
so
at
adult
establishments,
I
believe
so
I
spoke
to
the
City
attorney
about
that.
So
is
that
something
that
we
should
retain
when
we
change
this
ordinance,
could
you
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
current
ban
and
the
intent
there
and
staff's
recommendation
about
keeping
it
or
not
to.
R
G
Thank
you
and
then
one
question
about
the
waiver
process,
so
it
seems
like
one
thing
that
might
fix
our
some
of
our
issues
in
terms
of
where
these
go
is
a
waiver
process.
G
Since
it
seems
like
there
might
be
debate
or
confusion
about
the
definitions
right,
we
got
an
email
from
someone
who
wants
to
do
a
cabaret
review
type
show,
and
the
question
is:
would
that
you
know
fall
under
the
adult
ordinance?
Would
that
only
be
limited
to
the
Z2
or
last
that
the
city
council
decides
what
a
waiver
process
be
appropriate.
I
I
Most
of
these
businesses
are
protected
in
some
form
or
another
by
the
First
Amendment,
and
so,
when
you
start
getting
into
subjective
discretionary
reviews,
courts
are
more
skeptical
of
those.
So
it
is
safer
to
have
kind
of
objective
standards
in
terms
of
zones
and
a
measurable
distance
requirements,
as
opposed
to
kind
of
subjective
standards,
which
is
what
we
have
in
our
cannabis
ordinance.
G
R
Depending
on
the
program
itself,
it
potentially
could
be
excluded,
for
example,
looking
at
some
of
the
reviews
in
Las
Vegas,
where
it
is
not
the
primary
purpose
of
the
show,
but
rather
something
that's
secondary
to
the
show
itself
that
would
fall
under
the
exemption
of
live,
theatrical,
entertainment.
However,
if
it
is
focused
solely
on
anatomical
parts,
then
it
would
fall
under
an
adult
business
and
so
I
think
that's
how
we
would
distinguish
those
two,
but
we
would
need
to
look
closely
at
what
is
the
performance.
G
R
Correct
go-go
dancers
at
clubs,
for
example,
Arenas
has
been
mentioned
that
the
bars
there
occasionally
have
go-go
dancers.
R
They
would
not
be
considered
to
be
adult
businesses,
and
so
that
type
of
entertainment
may
continue
and
has
already
been
mentioned.
Abc
also
monitors
those
locations
as
well.
So
no
I
don't
believe
that
would
be
an
issue.
G
And
that
wouldn't
be
adult
use,
just
it's
just
yeah
I
do
think
the
gender
Equity
is
important
because
that
you
get
into
questions
of
of
equity
between
different.
You
know
venues
and
different
Sexes
performing
and
all
of
that,
but
yeah
I
agree
with
the
mayor
that
you
know
we
can
debate
about
Council
if
what
next
steps
would
be
for
this.
A
So
if
we
can
keep
our
comments,
brief
I,
don't
think
that
we're
going
to
reach
any
sort
of
consensus
on
this,
but
I
think
what
would
be
most
helpful
right
now
for
staff
is
for
us
to
clearly
State
either
more
information
that
we
need
or
what
our
thoughts
are,
so
that
either
staff
or
a
subcommittee
can
continue
this
work
or
not
continue
this
work.
If
there
is
not
the
desire
of
counsel,
is
there
someone
mayor
Pro
tem?
Did
you
want
to
go
ahead.
F
Happy
to
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
give
I,
don't
want
to
give
all
my
comments.
I
I
am
another
council
member,
that's
not
in
favor
of
adding
additional
districts,
especially
as
we
find
that
we
have
more
more
and
more
businesses
in
our
area.
Moving
to
other
areas
where
they
may
not
have
been
before.
F
I
would
ask
that
chief,
that
maybe
you
look
at
sex
venues
in
other
cities
and
and
drug
issues
and
what
that
might
what
issues
that
might
pose
for
us,
I,
don't
think,
there's
I
think
that's
just.
It
may
actually
be
more
controlled
than
people
doing
it
on
their
own,
because
somebody's
alerted,
if
they
overdose,
but
I,
would
like
to
see
that
I
would
like
to
see
specific
language
that
makes
sure
they
the
patrons,
especially
if
they
have
outdoor
space,
are
not
visible
from
residential
areas.
Besides
not
being
just
adjacent.
F
Think
children
attend
start
to
approach
puberty
these
days
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
that
has
changed
since
1995,
but
it's
10
year
old,
certainly
going
to
look
a
lot
more
mature
than
I
used
to
in
terms
of
public
nudity
I,
don't
know,
I,
think
the
term
is
limitations
on
time
place
and
Manner
and
I
think
we
might
want
to
look
at
that
where
people
could
be
nude,
because
whenever
we
permit
will
happen,
in
my
view
of
the
city,
I
understand
the
reasoning
for
having
gender
neutral
public
nudity
rules.
F
I
think,
unfortunately,
that
is
not
the
norm
for
in
this
country
and
I've
lived
in
Europe,
where
there's
places
where
it
is
I,
think
I
think
it
poses
a
lot
of
problems
and
I
don't
want
to
be
discriminatory,
but
I
think
that
would
at
least
require
some
more
thought
and
input
from
the
community
I'm
not
sure
how
to
get
that.
But
those
are
sort
of
my
comments
in
general
direction
without
if
that's
okay,
yeah.
A
Thank
you,
I
think
that's
helpful.
Is
there
another
council
member
that
would
like
to
provide
comments.
S
You
mostly
I
want
to
just
say,
I
agree
with
Jeffrey,
but
I
don't
support
any
expansion
in
the
number
of
areas
in
which
adult
businesses
are
allowed
to
operate
and
have
not
seen
that
we
are
having
difficulty
with
adult
businesses
not
being
able
to
find
appropriate
places.
S
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
Sunny
Dunes
is
part
of
my
district.
It's
an
area
in
which
there
has
been
adult
businesses
going
back
for
decades.
S
I
believe
that
it
is
a
district
in
which
it
does
work
and
I.
Think
the
not
adjacent
to
definition
for
the
sunny,
Dunes
District
also
is
one
that
has
stood.
The
test
will
work
and
will
work
in
a
community.
S
I
am
very
concerned
about
James
to
our
public,
Unity,
ordinance
and
I
I.
Think
I
can
support
definition.
I
do
think
and
support
a
definition
of
this
concession
with
the
other
states
about
child
Valley,
but
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
the
police
department
have
a
nudity
ordinance.
They
can
support
foreign.
A
S
With
all
respect,
I
do
not
believe
that
the
idea
of
gender
neutrality
works
when
you're
talking
about
a
definition
of
nudity
that
stretches
a
very
fine
objective
to
a
not
logical
place.
Thank
you.
F
I
want
to
clarify
regarding
sex
venues
as
they
do
exist,
so
the
idea
of
having
them
permitted
and
licensed
I
think
is
a
better
option.
I
just
wanted
to
see
those
requirements
in
terms
of
Public,
Health
and
understanding
what
drug
issues
there
may
be.
I
am
but
I'm
not
saying
we
shouldn't
do
it
I'm
just
saying
we
should
do
it.
We
have
the
opportunity
to
do
it
with
thoughtfulness.
A
G
I'm
happy
to
go
yeah
I'm
I'm,
fine,
with
the
ordinance
that
came
forward
in
front
of
us
I
agree
with
council
member
mayor
Pro
tem
Bernstein's
comments
about
clarifying
some
of
that
you
know
I.
Would
this
is
you
know,
unfortunately,
for
our
new
council
members,
the
second
time
that
we're
seeing
this
and
having
an
in-depth
conversation?
And
this
is
the
first
time
that
they
are
so
that's
hard,
then,
for
all
of
us
to
get
a
line
and
get
all
of
our
questions
answered
and
all
of
our
policy
considerations
there.
G
So
I
might
want
to
make
sure
everyone
has
ample
time
for
all
of
that
work.
But
I
really
appreciated
the
questions
that
he
raised
so
yeah,
I
I,
don't
have
any
further
questions
or
comments.
You
know,
I
had
brought
up
the
issue
of
tipping,
which
is
banned
in
our
current
ordinance,
which
is
just
interesting
considering
what
we
see
at
chill
bar
or
hunters
or
many
other
places.
G
I
am
concerned
about
Equity
issues,
just
because
I've
been
to
a
number
of
drag,
shows
where
there's
either
a
trans,
performers
or
male
female
performers,
and
it
just
gets
very
complicated
when
their
breasts
are
exposed.
I
had
originally
asked
in
the
last
council
meeting
if
breastfeeding
was
currently
illegal
or
not
allowed
under
the
public
nudity
ordinance,
because
it
did
talk
about
nipples
and
so
obviously
I'd
like
to
see
I'm
sure
many
of
us
would
a
city
where
you're
able
to
breastfeed.
G
We
know
our
police
aren't
enforcing
that,
but
it
is
on
the
books
and
it's
concerning
to
me
as
a
city
that
wants
to
welcome
families
and,
as
I
mentioned
sort
of
I,
think
the
definitions
are
going
to
be
really
important
here
and
just
the
equity
of
you
know
what's
happening
on
any
given
night
at
certain
businesses
and
ensuring
that
this
is
Equitable
and
fair
and
done
in
a
you
know,
permitted
way
where
we
really
can't
get
a
handle
on
it.
G
So
I
believe
that
there
are
businesses,
or
at
least
one
business
that
has
applied
and
has
been
going
through
this
with
us
now
for
a
very
long
time.
Many
many
months
and
so
I
know
staff
talked
about
that
at
the
last
council.
Meeting
of
you
know
one
reason
for
Council
to
consider
the
this
ordinance
update.
G
So
you
know
I'm
interested
in
that
I'm.
Not
delaying
this
conversation
further
I
mean
we
could
debate
all
of
this
forever
and
I.
Think
it's
just
a
question
of
you
know:
what's
going
to
be
good
enough
to
move
forward
and
implement.
N
When
I
say
very
quick,
I
mean
really
do
mean
very
quick,
I
agree
with
councilmember
hostage,
I
neglect,
I
didn't
see
the
the
Tipping
line,
and
that
certainly
is
outdated
and
is
doesn't
apply
even
today.
So
I
would
be
in
favor
of
striking
paragraph
21
with
dealing
with
the
Tipping
and
gratuity
and
the
the
only
other
thing
I
want
to
make
sure.
N
Is
that
we're
very
careful
and
we're
not
sending
a
message
to
the
public
that
we're
singing
out
singling
that
one
industry
is
being
a
high
drug
using
type
industry,
or
that
the
clientele
is
perceived
to
be
that
so
I
just
want
to
be
careful
that
that
our
our
comments
aren't
taken
to
be
a
blanket
comment
about.
You
know
particular
industry
or
businesses.
A
Thank
you
since
I
haven't
given
comments.
I
guess
I
will,
at
this
point,
I
think
overall,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
cleanup
to
this
ordinance.
We're
making
the
language
simplify
we're
simplifying
the
language,
we're
simplifying
the
process
for
these
businesses
to
apply
for
licenses
I'm,
putting
in
a
lot
of
good
things
in
terms
of
security
and
talking
about
public
health
and
and
safety.
The
only
thing
about
this
I
do
think
there
was
quite
a
few
items
that
were
addressed
in
terms
of
additional
explanation
that
was
needed.
A
That
I
heard
in
the
questions.
For
instance
council
member
to
Heart,
mentioned
what
is
what
is
the
definition
of
sanitary
and
and
other
things
that
were
listed,
getting
the
sense
that
there's
not
an
agreement
on
the
expansion
in
the
C2
area.
A
I
don't
have
an
opinion
really
either
way,
it
doesn't
seem
like
it's
a
big
impact
if
we
expand
or
if
we
or
if
we
don't
I'm
fine,
to
defer
to
to
counsel
in
terms
of
the
public,
nudity
ordinance
I
think
it
can
get
I
find
that
it's
already
confusing
the
way
it
is
proposed
and
I'm.
Just
honestly,
not
sure
where,
where
I
stand
on
on
that
one
Glenn
foreign.
A
No,
the
question
for
you:
Flynn
is
it.
It
looks
like
we
have
General
agreement
on
some
of
these
things
and
and
a
no
one
and
a
few
others
and
a
few
hanging
questions
I,
like
council
member
holster,
said
I.
Don't
want
to
continue
to
drag
this
on
for
too
long
as
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
from
what
you've
heard
tonight.
If
there's
a
recommendation
in
terms
of
how
we
move
forward.
R
R
There
might
be
a
couple
of
points
where
it
would
be
helpful
to
work
with
a
subcommittee
I,
don't
know
if
the
council
would
like
to
do
that
or
not
I
would
be
more
than
open
to
that
idea.
I
think
it
would
help
us
to
refine
a
number
of
the
points
where
there
are
questions
from
council
members,
and
so
that
might
be
easier
to
do
in
some
type
of
a
subcommittee
format
and
then
come
back
with
a
updated
and
revised
ordinance
to
the
entire
Council.
G
Thank
you
I'm,
trying
to
also
keep
calm
and
see
if
there's
agreement
among
the
council
or
if
all
Council
wants
to
wait
on
this
item
for
more
time
or
for
more
subcommittee
work.
I
agree
with
the
mayor.
I
don't
feel
strongly
about
expansion
to
C2,
so
I
mean
I
definitely
want
to
defer
to
council
member
Middleton
since
it's
her
District.
So
do
we
want
to
piece
out
any
of
these
pieces?
G
You
know
and
separate
the
adult
oriented
business
ordinance
which
sounds
like
there
might
be
agreement
upon,
although
there
might
be
questions
for
a
second
reading
or
more
specificity
is
Jeffrey.
Excuse
me,
mayor
Pro,
tem
noted
with
the
public
nudity
ordinance,
which
might
have
more
discussion
or
actually
it
sounds
like
Council
might
be
aligned
there
I'm,
not
sure
where
all
the
votes
land
but
I'm
just
trying
to
see.
If
there
is
any
resolution
we
can
get
to
tonight.
G
Based
on
all
of
this
discussion,
where
you
all
want
to
go
from
here
in
terms
of
what
the
subcommittee
work
would
look
like
since
I'm
sure
we
don't
have
want
to
have
lots
and
lots
more
public
hour
hours
in
public
about
discussing
these
topics
and
this
level
of
detail,
and
we
want
to
put
these
hours
to
good
use.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you,
councilmember
I,
think
that
is
a
good
point.
If
we
were
I
think
it
is
possible
to
do
a
motion
for
approving
the
adult
businesses
ordinance,
excluding
any
expansion
of
C2
and
I
am
getting
some
nods
and
of
approval
there.
A
They
additional
the
other
ordinance
in
terms
of
public
nudity,
I'm,
not
sure
I
could
vote
on
it
tonight.
I
I
just
still
have
a
lot
of
lingering
questions.
There
I'm
getting
a
nod
from
mayor
Pro
tem
over
here
as
well.
So
is
there
emotion
on
the
floor
for
this
larger,
more
substantial
piece
on
adult
businesses.
F
F
Yes,
that
would
be
my
motion
to
be.
We
approve
the
changes
to
the
adult
business
with
the
caveats
that
the
ones
that
are
not
the
clientele
is
not
visible
from
residential
and
that
there
is
a
requirement
to
work
with
public
health
or
public
health
providers
for
both
disease
and
as
a
sexually
transmitted
infections
and
potential
drug
use,
which
is
not
defining
that
they
do
it,
but
just
in
case
great.
A
F
A
Great,
thank
you.
That's
one
and
done
thank
you,
councilmember
holstedge,
for
pushing
me
along
on
that
one
all
right
with
the
in
terms
of
public
nudity
I.
Don't,
as
we
stated,
we
don't
have
consensus
on
that
to
move
forward
is,
does
council
feel
that
we
need
and
a
subcommittee
on
this,
or
is
it
just
giving
all
of
us
a
little
bit
more
time
to
mull
over
how
we'd
like
to
move
forward?
C
A
C
A
A
I,
don't
believe
that
there's
anything
extremely
pressing
that
we
need
to
address
in
it
I
I
do
I
do
want
to
Echo
the
council
member
hostage's
point
that
we
don't
want.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
any
public
nudity
ordinance
does
not
try
to
prevent
breastfeeding.
That's
that's
very
important,
so
I
do
think
we
want
to
edit
this
ordinance,
even
though
our
officers
of
course
are
not
enforcing
that
as
it
is,
but
we
do
want
to
make
sure
it's
in
line
with
equity
in
that,
in
that
regard,
all
right,
I
think
we're
all
tired.
A
Let's
move
on
then
at
this
time
we
will
take
public
comment.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter
of
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
city.
Although
the
council
values
your
comments
pursuant
to
the
brown
act,
it
generally
cannot
take
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
agenda.
Two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker,
city
clerk.
Do
we
have
any
public
comments.
J
Excerpts
a
vendetta
against
me
all
of
public
benefit
entitlements,
are
under
Department
of
Defense
since
days
of
George
Washington
through
a
congressional
process
held
equally
worthy
claim.
The
new
groups
insist
that
they
are
equally
worthy.
As
the
covered
groups.
Hiv
Ryan,
White
Care
Act
is
under
Department
of
Defense
in
La
I
quit
Hughes
under
Rupert
Murdoch,
when
they
evacuated
La,
as
one
of
the
planes
was
headed
to
LA
on
9
11.,
my
roommate
at
the
time
David
Hosley
an
engineer
designed
the
stealth
bomber
at
Northrop
Grumman,
a
contractor
of
Department
of
Defense
in
Reno.
J
J
Only
the
landlord
had
access
to
all
of
my
medical
records
gone
through
my
first
phone
SIM
card
on
my
kitchen
table
stolen
someone
would
walk
on
the
roof,
throw
items
to
the
vents
into
my
floor
officer,
Paul
Rogers,
Ohio,
State,
PD,
607-689-3039
message,
my
replacement
Obama
phone
one
week
old,
stolen
registered
to
John
Gokey
and
Gian
Allen
7-Eleven
ATM
kiosk
Reno
PD
declared
gang
hacked
only
this
week,
I
have
discovered
the
Department
of
Corrections
uses.
These
kiosks
Capital
One
bank
account
requesting
personal
family
identification
comes
off
as
hacker
spear.
J
Phishing
account
takeover
on
10
2020,
Heritage
Bank
of
Nevada
opened
two
accounts
in
my
name,
one
of
which
they
would
not
close
number
T,
200-12450
HIV
medications
poisoned
without
my
consent.
The
moment
I
stopped
them.
I
got
better
heart
issue.
Without
my
consent,
I
had
to
hear
from
Iran
social
media
that
kovid
was
a
heart
issue.
W
Good
evening,
thank
you.
My
name
is
Amato
Salinas
I
am
the
representative
for
the
national
legislative
Council
for
the
American
Legion
I'm,
also,
the
area
five
Judge
Advocate
for
the
American
Legion
and
of
the
member
of
the
Hispanic
American
police
command,
Association
hepkoa
and
an
active
member
of
the
aeronautic
Institute
I
am
here
today,
because
the
American
Legion
district
21
is
proposing
of
American
Youth
Baseball
in
Palm
Springs
to
hopefully
address
the
kids
at
risk
and
kids
at
youth.
W
Given
everyone
the
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
participate
in
Youth
Baseball,
we
were
fortunate
enough
to
get
an
allowance
with
the
alliance
with
the
police
department
and
hoping
to
get
a
better
relationship
as
individuals
instead
of
just
policemen,
so
the
kids
see
them
as
individual
men
and
participate.
So
we've
worked
the
last
year
to
get
coaches
and
we
have
kids
so
I'm
here
to
announce
to
say.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
police
department
and
their
effort
to
get
our
youth
involved
and
look
at
kids
at
risk
in
the
future.
W
We're
also
going
to
be
involved
with
bringing
the
stem
program
I'm
off
to
DC
in
February
and
I'll,
be
approaching
them
for
funds
to
go
ahead
and
get
the
youth
stem
program
for
the
area
across
to
help
our
future
kids
get.
Hopefully,
employment,
I'm.
A
great
example
of
that
I
grew
up
in
Palm
Springs.
My
primary
language
is
Spanish,
but
in
the
60s
there
was
the
Aerospace
industry,
and
here
I
am
today
aerospace,
engineer,
avionics
and
Pat,
put
it
moving
it
forward.
W
X
I
want
to
get
ready.
This
is
going
to
take
a
few
minutes
again.
Honorable
mayor
City,
Council
Members,
my
name
is
Deborah
McGarry
public
affairs
manager
for
Southern
California,
Gas,
Company
I'm,
reaching
out
to
inform
our
customers
that
natural
gas
prices
are
going
to
be
even
higher
than
usual.
This
January
due
to
several
unprecedented
factors
beyond
our
control,
customers
may
see
winter
gas
bills
double
or
higher
compared
to
one
year.
High
gas
bills
are
a
result
of
historically
High
natural
gas
prices
in
the
western
states.
Socalgas
does
not
set
prices
for
natural
gas.
X
Instead,
natural
gas
prices
are
determined
by
national
Regional
markets.
Socalgas
buys
natural
gas
from
those
markets
on
behalf
of
our
residents
and
small
business
customers.
The
cost
of
buying
natural
gas
is
billed
to
those
customers
with
no
markup
meaning
SoCalGas
does
not
profit
from
the
gas
Commodities
being
priced.
According
to
SoCalGas
Energy
Information
Administration,
a
number
of
factors
are
contributing
to
the
high
gas
prices.
Widespread
natural
gas,
widespread
below
normal
temperatures
on
much
of
the
West
Coast,
including
Washington
and
Oregon
High.
X
Natural
gas
demand
for
heating
for
those
customers
in
those
areas
reduced
natural
gas
supply
to
the
West
Coast
from
Canada,
and
the
Rocky
Mountains
reduced
Interstate
pipeline
capacity
to
the
West
Coast
because
of
pipeline
maintenance
activity
on
the
west
coast
of
Texas
and
low
natural
gas
storage
on
the
west
coast
to
help
our
customers
reduce
their
bills.
We
encourage
them
to
lower
their
thermostats
three
to
three
to
five
degrees,
Health
permitting
use,
Caulking
and
weather
stripping.
X
This
will
help
reduce
their
bills
by
15
to
10
percent,
wash
your
clothes
in
cold
water,
reduce
temperatures
to
their
water,
heater
to
120
degrees
and
limit
the
use
of
non-essential,
Gas
Appliances
such
as
Spas
pool
heaters
and
fireplaces.
If
you
need
more
information,
go
to
socalgas.com
and
we'll
be
happy
to
provide
you
additional
information,
also
SoCalGas
donated
a
million
dollars
to
the
gas
contribution
for
customers
that
can't
afford
it.
Thank
you.
E
Hi
I'm
calling
I'm
a
resident
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I'm,
calling
for
many
patrons
of
the
Palm
Springs
pool.
There
have
been
major
issues.
E
The
pool
has
been
closed
seven
times
in
the
past
in
January
alone,
and
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
a
plan
to
get
the
pull
the
management
together.
The
city
says:
there's
a
long-term
plan,
but
now
there's
already
been
seven
days,
we
haven't
been
able
to
swim
and
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
enough
lifeguards
and
it's
a
real
mess
there
today
I
want
to
swim.
It
was
closed.
E
It
was
closed
on
Tuesday
and
I'm,
calling
behalf
of
many
people
because
we
depend
on
the
pool
for
mental
physical
health
and,
of
course
we
understand
when
there's
emergencies,
but
this
is
like
a
long.
This
has
been
like
a
month-long
issue,
so
I'm
just
want
to
make
you
all
aware
that
this
is
an
issue
and
it's
affecting
a
lot
of
people
in
Palm
Springs
thanks.
Y
Good
evening,
council,
members
and
and
Madam
mayor
I
am
I
am
rather
appalled
and
just
hearing
that
you
guys
railroaded
through
the
passage
of
this
adult
business
thing
you.
Everybody
had
just
agreed
that
the
the
sections
on
page
18
and
19,
where
it
deals
with
tipping
and
and
the
gratuity
sections
of
that,
that
everybody
thought
that
that
was
just
ridiculous.
It
was
a
1995
law,
and
yet
you
know
we
we
have
drag
queens
and
and
all
of
those
sort
of
shows
that
the
Tipping
occurs.
Y
But
you
just
approved
a
law
that
has
that
that
that
language
in
it-
and
so
it
still
remains
that
that
you
can't
the
adult
businesses
can't
have
tips
to
the
entertainers.
And
what
have
you
I?
Don't
understand
how
that
just
went
by
the
wayside,
when
you
guys
had
just
addressed
it.
Y
A
couple
minutes
before
the
vote,
but
but
more
importantly,
is,
as
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware,
I'm,
the
owner
of
wangs
in
the
desert,
and
so
we
have
been
struck
struggling
ever
since
the
the
council
in
its
Infinite
Wisdom
allowed
the
conditional
use
permit
to
go
through
for
well
in
the
desert.
We
know
how
that
all
worked
out
and
I've
had
I've
had
the
business
up
for
sale
since
late
19,
2019.
and
I
am
I.
Y
Can't
I've
had
a
couple
of
these
businesses
that
would
like
to
put
an
adult
nightclub
in
my
space,
but
because
the
zoning
issues
and
the
issues
that
are
up
for
for
discussion
here,
it
can't
happen
for
specifically
that
it
can't
front
or
or
be
facing
a
a
major
thoroughfare.
Well,
that's
rather
discriminatory
when
we
have
on
major
thoroughfares.
We
have
the
cannabis,
dispensaries
and
lounges
and
the
the
the
there
are
many
businesses
on
major
thoroughfares
that
are
serving
alcohol.
Y
Y
I
will
submit
my
my
written
comments
to
all
of
you,
and
hopefully,
when
you
do
the
subcommittee
thing
or
what
have
you
that
that
these
can
be
addressed
in
detail
and
maybe
brought
back
up
and
do
the
right
thing
and
things
that
make
Common
Sense.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
The
next
item
is
city
council
and
city
manager.
Agenda
development.
Do
we
have
any
comments
from
our
city
manager.
H
Thank
you
mayor
and
Council.
If
we
could
we'll
go
ahead
and
put
the
upcoming
tentative
meeting
schedule,
we'll
share
that
with
you
at
our
next
meeting,
we
have
approximately
four
hours
estimated
of
of
time
on
items.
We
would
need
to
have
deliberation
on.
We
have
public
hearing
on
historic,
designation
for
two
different
items:
the
hotel
incentive
program,
Covenant
for
Descanso
Resort,
a
public
hearing.
H
We
have
the
vacation
rental
fee,
adoption,
public
hearing,
vacation
rental,
Maps
under
business
and
legislative,
we'll
have
an
update
on
the
navigation
Center,
and
then
we
have
an
item
on
orchid
tree
operations,
the
Covenant
and
tot
agreement.
Following
that,
the
second
meeting
in
February
we
have
the
Dream
Hotel
Amendment
on
there
for
public
hearing
sidewalk
vending
ordinance
will
be
coming
back.
H
We
have
the
rescission
of
the
local
emergency
order,
the
Community
Development
block,
grant
annual
action
plan
and
a
mid-year
budget
update,
which
will
also
include
the
capital
Improvement
project,
update
that
we've
discussed
in
March.
We're
will
be
adding
to
that
right
now.
You
don't
see
anything
there,
but
it
will
quickly
fill
up
and
we
also
are
looking
at
having
our
visioning
session
with
the
new
city
manager
and
the
new
Council.
So
we
will
be
contacting
you
about
dates
to
schedule
that
as
well.
So
that's
it
for.
A
Us
thank
you.
My
question,
for
you
is
for
those
next
two
meetings
are
there
items
that
can
be
pushed
to
March
I'm
a
little
concerned,
especially
with
our
next
meeting.
Those
are
quite
a
few
meaty
topics.
The
orchid
tree,
two
items
related
to
Vacation
Rentals
and
we're
likely
to
get
a
great
deal
of
public
comment.
A
Can
any
of
those
items
potentially
be
moved
even
if
we
leave
them
on
the
agenda?
I
just
want
to
get
a
sense
of
how
this
meeting
is
going
to
flow.
H
A
A
A
A
H
A
I
think
I
think
that's
great
if
and
then
Theresa
you
and
I
can
decide.
If
maybe
we
need
to
do
a
public
update
at
the
next
meeting
based
on
that
memo?
Okay,
if
it's
just
a
quick
that
sounds
good,
a
quick
update,
if
necessary,
all
right
any
other
agenda
development
from
council
members.
A
If
not,
are
there
comments
from
council
members
mayor,
Pro
tem
go
oh
councilmember
Middleton
go
ahead.
S
I'll
be
quick:
I
did
have
an
opportunity,
while
in
Sacramento
last
week
to
have
discussions
with
Senator
sayarto,
Senator,
Patia
assembly,
member
Wallace
and
the
governor's
legislative
Chief
of
Staff
regarding
the
Gene
Autry
and
Indian
Canyon
wash
situations
in
the
need
for
funding
for
bridging
of
those
areas.
S
S
Those
meetings
are
open
to
the
public
on
January
12th,
the
California
Secretary
of
Transportation
sent
to
the
federal
Railway
Association
a
list
of
six
projects
that
were
California's
priority
projects
for
rail,
that
included
the
Coachella
Valley
San
Gorgonio
pass
Rail
Project
and
lastly,
I
want
to
thank
and
congratulate
the
chief,
not
only
for
what
I
hear
was
a
very
special
day
that
I'm
sorry
I
was
not
able
to
attend,
but
also
for
his
Valley
voice
and
his
plan
on
dealing
with
homelessness.
S
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
to
Hart.
N
Thank
you
mayor,
pass
out
a
Kudo
to
staff
to
start
off
and
we
can
put
this
under
Community
helping
neighbors
category,
but
Liza
Chavez,
executive
assistant
for
mayor
and
Council
was
a
trooper
in
helping
a
local
veteran,
could
get
connected
to
supportive
Senior
Services
in
District
2
and
and
it's
great
to
see
our
staff
going.
N
The
extra
mile
to
help
residents
in
the
community
also
hats
off
and
appreciation
to
staff
for
moving
forward
and
removing
the
Aged
rainbow
crosses
the
cross
box
and
the
Arenas
District
merchants,
and
our
community
members
are
very
supportive
of
getting
that
done
and
looking
forward
to
a
future
plan
for
something
that
is
unique
for
Arenas.
N
So
thank
you
for
getting
that
done
and
earlier
or
last
week,
I
was
fortunate
to
attend
the
league
of
cities-
council
member
training
very
very
worthwhile
few
days
in
Sacramento
to
to
learn
how
to
do
this
job
better,
so
I
appreciated
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
enter
and
attend
that
Workshop
session.
Thank
you
thank.
F
I
got
just
a
few
things,
I
know
I
guess
earlier
this
month
there
was
two
two
deputies
in
Riverside
County
who
who
we
lost
from
the
line
of
duty
and
I
I
spoken
to
some
of
our
officers.
I
know
it's
difficult
for
all
of
us
when
this
happens,
but
especially
for
our
own
officers
and
I
just
wanted
to
give
my
thoughts
to
our
officers
and
the
ones
in
Riverside
County,
and
let
them
know
that
the
whole
our
whole
Community
cares
and
supports
them.
F
I
also
wanted
to
mention
tomorrow
is
Holocaust,
Remembrance,
Day
I
know
the
mayor
will
be
speaking
and
I'll
be
speaking,
and
this
marks
the
now
the
78th
anniversary
of
the
liberation
of
Auschwitz
in
Broken,
Arrow
and
and
it's
I
would
encourage
people
to
to
they're
not
familiar
or
to
read
up
and
and
ensure
that
they
pay
attention
to
this
remembrance
and
then
just
on
a
personal
note
lost
a
very
close
friend
today,
who
was
a
former
Broadway
star
who
spent
the
last
10
13
years?
F
He
moved
with
us
to
Palm
Springs
working
with
all
the
theater
groups,
I
think
he
performed
with
every
single
one
of
them.
His
name
is
Salma
strata
and
also
spent
that
time
working
with
high
school
students
throughout
the
Coachella
Valley
to
train
them
for
future
Broadway
careers
and
interests.
So
my
friend
Sal,
thank
you.
G
A
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that
the
only
cons
I
have
is
that
we
did
have
a
police
Chamber
of
Commerce
had
a
police
and
fire.
Thank
you
lunch
today.
It
was
a
really
wonderful
event:
honoring,
our
our
Public
Safety
and
their
rewards,
given
out
by
both
our
acting
Fire
Chief
and
our
police
chief
and
the
the
stories
that
they
shared
about
the
The
Bravery
of
these
officers
was
really
incredible
and
I
appreciated
hearing
all
of
those.
A
So
thank
you
to
all
of
our
Public
Safety
team
for
for
taking
care
of
us,
including
the
the
civilian
team
that
assists,
and
with
that
we
will
close
the
meeting
in
honor
of
Sal.