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From YouTube: City Council | Mar 10 2022
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City of Palm Springs Planning Commission meeting, held March 10th, 2022
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A
Thank
you
I'd
like
to
make
a
note
for
all
of
you
who
are
viewing
city
council
is
in
chambers
this
evening,
along
with
key
members
of
our
staff.
We
have
not
as
yet
opened
the
chambers
to
the
public.
We
hope
to
do
that
within
the
next
few
meetings.
This
is
a
first
step.
It
is
of
having
a
hybrid
meeting,
in
which
case
individuals
will
still
be
calling
in
for
a
public
comment.
At
the
time
the
city
clerk
makes
a
phone
call
to
you.
We
will
be
here
in
chambers.
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C
Good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council
tonight,
I'm
gonna
provide
you
a
quick
update.
Hopefully
this
will
be
the
last
update
that
I
provide
to
council
for
forever,
but
so
the
first
slide,
this
we're
used
to
all
eight
slides.
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
first
one
is
the
state
and
county
metrics
laid
over
each
other.
C
We
can
see
that
over
the
past
several
weeks,
we've
seen
consistent
week
over
week,
improvement
daily
case
rates
at
the
state
and
the
county
level
are
now
at
about
10k,
just
below
10
cases
per
100
000
per
day,
which
is
significant
improvement.
Since
we
spoke
two
weeks
ago,
as
of
today,
riverside
county
has
less
than
150
patients,
covid
patients
and
hospitals,
county-wide
and
only
22
of
those
are
in
the
icu,
so
significant
improvement
across
all
metrics
at
the
county
and
the
state
level
for
riverside
county.
C
We
saw
about
a
30
percent
improvement
last
week
over
the
week
before
the
week
before
that
it
was
a
50
percent
decrease,
so
we've
seen
consistently
improving
numbers
with
just
over
2
000
cases.
Last
week.
So
far
this
week
the
county's
only
seen
381
new
covet
cases.
So,
by
comparison
just
two
weeks
ago,
where
we
were
averaging
600
cases
per
day,
381
cases
over
three
day
period
is
significant
improvement
for
palm
springs.
The
backlog
data
finally
got
updated.
C
The
coachella
valley
follows
the
same
trend
with
one
exception,
but
due
to
indian
wells
small
size,
their
their
their
numbers,
don't
really
affect
the
trend.
They
went
up
three
cases
which
for
something
so
small,
it's
we
don't
see
that
as
a
change
to
the
trend
consistently
improvement
over
the
past
month
across
the
valley.
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A
Danny
again,
this
is
very
encouraging
news
and
I
simply,
on
behalf
of
council,
want
to
thank
everyone
in
our
community
who
has
been
supportive
of
the
efforts
we've
taken
and
who
have
followed
the
precautions
that
we
believe
has
reduced
the
number
of
people
who
lives
that
we
have
lost
in
our
community.
So
thank
you.
A
Next
presentation
that
we
have
is
on
the
new
acro,
acura
sure
arena,
and
I
believe
we
have
arturo
avilas.
That's
going
to
be
made
available
to
us.
E
F
A
We
can
and
take
it
away.
E
Here
we
go
so
on
january
26
we
announced
our
naming
rights
partner
for
the
next
10
years,
and
the
arena
is
now
aggressive
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
on
schedule
to
open
late
2022
of
this
year.
Of
course,
locally.
Our
ownership
is
the
oakview
group.
I'm
sure
you
guys
are
aware
of
who
they
are.
We
have
a
partnership
with
the
seattle
kraken.
We
are
a
farm
team
for
the
seattle
kraken
and
we've
also
partnered
with
live
nation.
E
The
number
one
largest
concert
promoter
in
the
world
and
the
burger
foundation
who
owns
the
classic
club,
have
strategically
partnered
with
live
nation
to
bring
you
the
best
entertainment
in
the
world.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
big
life
nation
is,
they
do
over
30
000
events
in
40
countries
annually
they
own
the
trust
of
the
world's
biggest
artist,
and
there
is
a
live
nation
concert
every
18
minutes
around
the
world.
E
E
The
facility
will
be
powered
by
solar,
almost
100
percent
on
non-event
days
and
roughly
30
percent.
When
we
open
up
during
events,
we
are
targeting
zero
net
zero
waste
by
measuring
and
reducing
waste,
increasing
recycling
and
compostables
and
in
the
future
we
want
to
expand
our
on-site
solar
to
cover
as
much
energy
as
we
need
without
having
to
do
any
offsetting.
E
We
will
have
a
parking
lot
for
3
000
cars.
We
have
also
partnered
with
xavier
high
school
for
additional
parking.
As
you
can
see,
we
will
have
three
large
marquees
by
the
I-10
to
promote
events,
so
it
is
right
next
to
the
classic
club.
E
This
is
a
nice,
accurate
aerial,
rendering
of
how
the
arena
is
going
to
look.
You
can
see
freeway
I-10
going
eastbound.
What
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
about
this
picture
here
is
this
little
building
here
to
the
left,
so
there
will
be
an
ice
skating
rink
in
here
and
one
inside
the
arena.
So
we
will
have
to
this
will
be
the
community
ice
skating
rink
that
will
be
open
to
the
community.
E
This
is
a
rendering
of
how
the
arena
is
going
to
look.
When
we
have
concerts.
As
you
can
see,
we
will
cover
the
ice
for
events
and
we
will
provide
floor
level
seating.
The
arena
was
designed
to
create
an
intimate
experience.
Ninety
percent
of
the
seats
are
in
the
lower
level,
so
this
is
all
actually
a
general
admission.
All
the
vip
and
club
seating
is
at
the
top.
E
We
have
modernism
interior
design,
we
type
texture
in
materials.
We
use
light
colors
to
evoke
happy,
energetic,
peaceful
moods,
but
we
also
added
black
gold
and
silver
to
provide
a
night
of
elegance.
For
you
guys,
this
is
a
rendering
that
shows
a
bunker
club
vip
club.
Very
exclusive.
Very
fancy
will
provide
upscale
hospitality
the
best
in
the
world,
and
this
is
just
the
seating
all
the
suites
are
at
the
top
right.
E
These
are
all
suites
right
here,
which
you
see
in
gray,
and
then
this
is
club
seating
right
here
in
this
horseshoe
here
these
would
be.
These
are
general
admission
tickets.
These
will
be
floor
seats
and
there
is
a
vip
club
below
it's
called
the
bunker
club,
but
there's
also
vip
suites
here
at
the
top
that
you
can
share
with
others
and
and
the
vip
entrance
will
be
on
the
west
side.
The
parking
lot
will
be
right
next
to
the
arena,
and
you
will
have
exclusive
entrance
through
these
through
this.
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E
As
I
mentioned
before,
the
arena
was
designed
to
create
an
intimate
experience.
The
capacity
for
concerts
will
be
up
to
eleven
thousand
five
hundred,
and
the
hockey
capacity
capacity
will
be
ten
thousand
sorry,
I'm
trying
to
go
a
little
quick.
We
do
have
a
new
website,
it's
aquasurearena.com.
You
can
register
to
our
newsletter.
There.
E
Just
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
firebirds.
The
firebird
is
a
spiritual
descendant
of
the
kraken.
The
kraken
is
in
the
deep
dark
ocean
below
and
and
the
firebird
rises
out
of
the
flames
to
soar
high
above
we
are
the
ying
and
the
yang
to
each
other.
We
have
opposite
colors.
Our
primary
color
is
red
alert,
but
we
have
the
ice
blue
eye
and
their
primary
color
is
ice
blue
and
they
have
the
red
alert
eye.
So
it's
supposed
to
represent
fire
and
ice
sea
and
desert.
E
This
is
our
secondary
low
up
above
here
you
can
see
the
mountains
to
represent
our
beautiful
mountains
here
in
the
valley,
and
you
can
see
a
palm
tree
here
with
nine
fronts.
Each
frond
represents
a
city
in
the
coachella
valley.
We
will
also
have
both
logos
in
special
color
variants
to
represent
diversity.
E
These
are
pictures
that
were
taken
by
a
drone
february
9th.
As
you
can
see,
we
are
moving
very
very
fast.
We
had
our
top
enough
ceremony
a
few
weeks
ago
and
now
we're
covering
all
the
steel.
So
we
are
on
schedule
to
open
late
2022.,
something
that
I'm
really
proud
about
is
the
community
events
that
we're
doing
right.
E
We're
running
community
street
hockey
with
various
youth
recreation
organizations
in
the
entire
coachella
valley,
shannon
miller,
who
is
our
vp
of
community
relations
and
branding,
is
a
hockey
hall
of
fame
coach
who
won
olympic
medal,
and
she
is
heading
the
street
hockey
clinics.
You
can
see
her
there
in
the
picture
right
here,
and
these
are
some
of
our
partnerships.
E
Aces
program
is
going
to
be
running
21
different
programs
and
21
sites.
We
have
the
ymca.
We
we
also
partner
with
desert
sands
desert
recreation,
district
and
the
boys
and
girls
club
and
many
other
organizations.
E
This
is
a
retail
store.
It's
on
el
paseo
across
the
street,
from
the
apple
store.
If
you
guys
want
to
get
any
merchandise,
you
can
also
visit
cdfirebirds.com
and
we
are
taking
deposits
for
season
tickets.
At
the
moment
we
are
at
4
700
spoken,
for
we
only
reserve
5
000
initially,
so
they
are
going
pretty
quick,
and
that
is
it.
That
is
my
presentation.
E
A
The
city
council
will
discuss
the
order
of
the
agenda
and
may
amend
the
order,
add
urgency,
items,
note,
abstentions
or
no
votes
on
the
consent,
calendar
items
or
request
consent,
calendar
items
to
be
removed
for
separate
discussion.
I
would
like
to
entertain
a
motion
for
the
acceptance
of
the
agenda.
G
A
Next
item
is
public
testimony.
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
city
council
on
non-public
hearing
agenda
items.
Only
two
minutes
will
be
assigned
to
each
speaker.
You
will
be
asked
to
please
begin
your
time
by
telling
us
what
agenda
item
or
items
you
are
speaking
about.
Please
note
that
testimony
for
public
hearings
will
be
taken
at
the
time
of
the
public
hearing
and
the
general
public
comment
for
subjects
not
on
the
agenda
will
be
taken
later
this
evening
tonight.
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B
D
Thank
you.
My
name
is
michael
roberts,
my
wife
and
I
are
very
happy
to
and
indian
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
don't
have
a
strong
view
for
or
against
picasso,
but
I
do
have
strong
feelings
about
the
city's
dealings
with
picasso
and
where
things
stand
tonight,
these
views
are
based
on
assumptions
which
feel
free
to
correct
if
they're
wrong.
First,
I
assume
that
the
city's
letter
by
the
city's
attorney
two
picasso
reflects
the
views
of
the
city
head
of
the
council
and,
if
not
feel,
free
to
disavow
it.
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A
second
three
of
the
five
current
council
members
were
on
the
council.
At
the
time,
measure
c
was
debated
in
2018
and
the
city,
and
these
three
members
councilor
records
council
of
hostage
mayor
middleton
were
very
vulnerable
supporters
of
vacation
rentals.
So,
given
these
two
beliefs,
I
find
it
unfair
and
inconsistent
on
the
part
of
the
city
to
beat
up
picasso
because
of
their
impact
on
affordability,
availability
or
because
of
their
perceived
negative
impact
on
residential
neighborhoods.
D
These
are
the
same
arguments
that
were
made
against
vacation,
rentals
and
the
city
and
the
three
of
the
council
members
I
mentioned
roundly
rejected
them,
so
it
now
seems
unfair
to
use
the
same
arguments
which
you
barely
rejected
against
picasso.
D
Now
it
could
be
that
some
of
all
of
you
have
changed
your
mind
about
vacation,
rentals
and
there's
no
shame
in
that.
As
someone
famously
said,
when
the
facts
change,
I
changed
my
mind.
What
do
you
do,
but
I
hope
if
any
of
you
do
speak
against
picasso
today,
you'll
explain
how
you
can
square
that
position
with
the
city's
current
policy
in
favor
of
vacation
rentals.
D
B
D
Good
evening,
mayor
middleton
city
council,
I
am
bruce
hoban,
I
am
the
co-founder
and
on
the
board
of
directors
for
vacation
rental
owners
and
neighbors
of
palm
springs,
also
known
as
beeron
we've
reviewed
the
staff
report
and
we
have
submitted
to
an
additional
list
of
possible
items.
We
request
data
be
provided
for
that
information
is
a
separate
attachment.
D
D
These
need
to
be
brought
in
as
part
of
helping
us
understand
what
data
we
can
all
review.
We
look
forward
to
our
additional
items
and
outside
consultants
be
incorporated
into
the
vacation
rally
study
session,
one
that
is
coming
up
or
we
will
define
in
more
detail
what
data
we
will
need.
We
recommend
we
commend
the
city
and
city
council
for
outlining
a
process
to
review
our
vacation
rental
ordinance,
starting
with
the
assessment
of
data
needs
and
the
findings
of
the
data
reports
prior
to
moving
into
our
policy
discussions.
D
B
D
Yes,
I'm
speaking
on
3a
and
it's
the
general
plan,
limited
update.
There
are
a
few
things
that
I
wanted
to
bring
to
the
city
council's
attention.
D
First,
that
we
had
had
some
really
good
meetings
with
pisha
and
the
gm
man
the
wednesday
morning,
breakfast
group
and
those
comments
somehow
never
got
into
the
update
and
I
think
they're
very
valuable
and
I
think
they
need
to
get
attention
from
the
city
council
on
a
couple
of
other
items.
D
Priority
number
one
a
which
is
new
is
open
space.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
cleaned
up.
A
little
open
space
really
had
the
most
comments
of
any
item
that
came
before
the
planning
commission.
I
think
most
of
the
letters
we
received
were
on
the
need
to
keep
open
space
open,
and
I
had
provided
a
slightly
cleaned
up
version
of
that
item
in
an
email
to
you
earlier
today.
D
The
other
is
on
sustainability,
the
they
we
really
didn't,
add
anything
about
anticipating
climate
change
and
actively
mitigating
against
it.
I
think
we
need
to
spell
a
condition
out
more
that
talks
about
mitigating
climate
change.
It
is
really
different
than
being
a
sustainability
leader
and
the
diversity
of
the
city's
economy.
D
D
B
D
D
D
That's
why
I
wanted
to
be
part
of
the
picasso
family
and
really
to
make
a
real
estate
investment.
If
this
was
just
a
time
share,
then
I
paid
a
heck
of
a
lot
more
than
I
ever
should
have.
I
never
would
have
done
that
I've
been
in
the
real
estate
business
for
20
years
and
well-versed
with
multiple
rental
properties,
and
that
wouldn't
have
been
any
interest
to
me
whatsoever.
D
So
I
wanted
to
buy
something
that
would
not
only
be
for
the
family
and
an
investment,
but
also
at
a
high
level
and
high
quality
in
a
great
neighborhood.
This
is
something
that
is
shared
within
family.
We
all
live
in
two
million
dollar
homes
in
our
primary
residences
and
have
great
neighbors
and
were
respectful
people
who
just
wanted
to
have
a
place
to
enjoy
and
be
part
of
a
community,
and
that's
what
it's
all
about
for
us.
D
So
I
I
think
the
pushback
here
is
is
really
surprising,
considering
the
kinds
of
people
that
picasso
is
bringing
into
the
community
instead
of
empty
vacation
homes
or
airbnb,
rentals,
it's
a
different
level,
so
I
hope
that
you
guys
understand
the
legal
differences
and
things
and
who
we
are
as
people
and
what
we
contribute
to
your
economy.
Thanks.
D
B
I
B
J
Good
evening,
mayor
middleton,
mayor
pro
town,
garner
and
city
council,
university
attorney
and
city
staff,
my
name
is
bruce
bauer
and
I'm
an
attorney
representing
picasso.
In
this
matter.
I'm
commenting
on
item
number
3a.
I
want
to
first
thank
city
staff
for
all
their
work
on
this
matter.
I
want
to
make
three
quick
points,
because
I
only
have
two
minutes
to
comment
on
this.
J
Picasso
model
is
to
purchase
a
home
in
a
limited
liability
company
and
that
sell
one-eighth
interest
in
that
llc.
The
city's
ordinance
expressly
identifies
that
the
timeshare
must
be
12
or
more
inches.
We
do
not
meet
that
requirement
on
its
face.
We
understand
that
some
picasso's
model
foot
co-ownership
looks
like
it's
a
new
model
of
owning
a
home
and
therefore
must
be
perceived
that
it
should
be
covered
under
existing
regulations
or
a
whole
new
set
of
regulations.
That
is
not
the
case.
Picasso's
ownership
is
not
a
new
model.
J
Fully
16
of
homes
in
the
city
are
already
titled
to
either
in
an
llc
or
trust
that
allows
for
multiple
owners.
In
each
of
this
case,
it
could
be
the
case
that
multiple
parties
are
utilizing
their
homes
in
the
same
manner
as
picasso.
Is
the
city
really
going
to
go
down
the
road
of
starting
to
review
who's
owning
property
in
the
city?
J
I
mean
that
it
can
clearly
regulate
the
use
of
land,
but
they
are
not
permitted
to
regulate
who
owns
land,
and
that
is
the
that
is
what
they're
attempting
to
do
in
one
of
the
options
of
the
staff
report.
The
failure
to
address
this
issue
striking,
given
the
fact
that
there's
clear
authority
on
that
issue
that
states
the
municipality,
cannot
so
regulate.
Ownership
of
the
land
and
we
provided
that
authority
in
our
extensive
literary
presented
to
the
city.
J
J
I
would
like
to
conclude
that
we
believe
the
city
of
palm
springs
cannot
prohibit
picasso's
business
model,
since
it's
not
empowered
to
regulate
who
owns
property
in
the
city,
we
respectfully
request
the
city,
withdraw
its
decent
assistance
or
engage
in
further
discussions
with
costs.
Regarding
those
issues.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
Mayor
that
concludes
public
comment.
Please
note:
there
was
one
speaker
that
we
could
not
reach
all
right.
A
K
Thank
you,
it's
nice
to
be
back
in
council
chambers.
I
did
just
want
to
make
one
comment
about
the
navigation
center
meeting
that
we
had
last
week.
I
know
many
of
you
probably
saw
that
on
the
news
and
it
didn't
go
very
well,
but
we
are
learning
from
our
mistakes
and
at
the
next
meeting
that
will
be
on
march
15th,
we
are
going
to
have
a
more
open
forum
style.
K
I
will
be
there.
I
believe
other
members
of
council
will
be
there
and
we
look
forward
to
having
a
discussion
and
answering
questions
from
the
public,
and
I
hope
that
everyone
will
come
and
and
really
participate
and
know
that
all
of
us
are
are
looking
to
make
this
a
project
that
can
work
and
and
make
as
many
updates
as
possible
with
with
your
assistants,
so
that
will
be
next
tuesday
march
15th
at
6
00
p.m,
at
the
james
o'jesse
center
gymnasium.
F
Thank
you
mayor.
Just
a
couple
things
so
mayor
milton
and
I
were
at
the
palm
springs,
hospitality
association,
monthly
board
meeting
today
there
are
a
number
of
requests
which
I
think
will
save
till
we'll
share
those
at
council
member
requests
via
us
as
liaisons.
So
we
can
get
to
our
other
items.
F
In
the
last
break
we
had,
I
was
at
the
visit
greater
palm
springs,
which
is
our
convention
visitors
bureau
retreat
on
strategic
planning,
the
second
phase
of
that,
and
so
more
is
going.
F
But
it's
really
looking
at
our
next
five-year
plan
for
the
coachella
valley
when
it
relates
to
tourism
and
one
of
the
big
priorities
that
came
up
there
was
the
need
for
housing,
that's
affordable
for
people
who
work
in
our
cities,
and
today
I
represented
the
city
and
genie
case,
the
director
of
our
library
in
other
roles
temporarily
as
well.
I
was
there
as
well
for
the
unveiling
of
the
monopoly
palm
springs
edition.
It
was
a
really
fun
event.
F
Mr
monopoly
was
there
with
a
really
big
head
and
hat,
and
it's
just
really
cool
to
see
this.
There
are
so
many
unique
things
on
there
and
it
reminds
us
why
we
love
living
here
right.
It
was.
It
had
mid-century,
modern
buildings,
it
had
city
buildings,
the
library
the
visitors
center
had
businesses
that
were
all
really
unique
to
palm
springs.
They
had
three
non-profits,
so
it
was
just
a
really
cool
thing
and
one
thing
in
my
conversation
with
them.
F
So
in
the
history
of
monopoly
and
then
the
20
years
of
doing
city
additions,
it's
the
first
time.
They've
had
anything
that
was
lgbtq,
which
is,
on
the
one
hand,
surprising
on
the
other.
Of
course
it's
going
to
be
in
palm
springs,
so
they
had
a
cinema
diverse
or
lgbtq.
Film
festival
is
one
of
our
unique
events
and
they
even
had
a
rainbow
flag
on
the
cover.
They
also
have
pink
flamingos,
which,
by
the
way,
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
lgbt
community.
F
I
just
own
those,
but
it
was
a
really
fun
event
and
they'll
be
available
to
purchase
in
places
for
residents
and
for
friends
who
want
to
take
it
home
and
it'll
help
promote
our
city
around,
but
it'll
be
fun
to
play
a
game.
So
many
of
us
grew
up
with
with
palm
springs
instead
of
places
from
the
east
coast.
So
thank
you
mayor.
A
Okay,
then
I
get
to
go
last
yesterday
at
the
riverside
county
transportation
commission
meeting.
We
certainly
did
not
get
anywhere
close
to
final
status,
on
bringing
rail
service
to
the
coachella
valley,
but
another
progress
report
and
another
small
milestone
that
will
go
next
week
to
the
california
transportation
commission,
again
moving
us
in
the
direction
of
bringing
rail
service
to
the
coachella
valley.
A
One
of
the
real
pleasures
that
all
of
us
who
are
members
of
city
council
get
to
do
is
to
perform
weddings
and
I'd
like
to
congratulate
brad
and
eli
on
their
marriage.
This
week
that
took
place
right
here
in
these
chambers,
and
it
was
a
pleasure
and
an
honor
to
be
able
to
officiate
at
that
wedding.
A
And
any
of
you
who
are
thinking
about
getting
married,
don't
be
bashful
about
calling
someone
on
city
council
to
officiate
at
the
wedding
last
in
on
city
council
a
few
weeks
ago,
took
a
really
great
step
in
putting
into
place
ab43,
which
allows
us
to
reduce
speed
limits
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
we're
the
first
city
in
california
to
take
action
on
ab43
and
upcoming
on
march
24th,
two
weeks
from
today
at
10
a.m,
and
we
believe
it
will
be
at
the
corner
of
la
verne
and
toledo.
A
Lastly,
and
most
importantly,
last
friday
I
was
able
to
represent
the
city
of
palm
springs
at
the
annual
event.
That
is
hosted
by
find
food
bank
to
honor
the
hunger
heroes
in
the
coachella
valley,
and
the
city
of
palm
springs
was
recognized
as
one
of
those
hunger
heroes.
The
only
other
city
to
receive
such
recognition
was
the
city
of
laquinta.
A
There
are
very
few
organizations
that
I've
encountered
in
my
time
in
the
coachella
valley
that
does
the
kind
of
consistent
professional
high
quality
work
that
fine
food
bank
does.
They
do
have
a
telethon
coming
up
in
april,
and
I
hope
everyone
in
palm
springs
participates
in
that
telethon.
Thank
you
with
that.
The
next
staff
are
there.
Any
comments.
Excuse
me.
A
A
L
L
There's
I'm
just
going
to
do
just
a
very
short
presentation.
There's
two
reasons
why
we're
doing
this
number
one
is
in
order
to
comply
with
state
law,
more
specifically
sb1383
relative
to
organic
waste
requirements
and
then,
secondly,
to
really
establish
the
city
as
a
leader
in
terms
of
our
environmental
practices,
that
the
practices
that
we
employ
here
at
city
hall
should
be
a
model
for
other
businesses
and
organizations
in
the
community,
and
so
that's
really
the
intent
of
what
we
are
doing
here
this
evening.
L
With
that.
I
understand
that
there
are
some
questions
just
by
way
of
background.
This
was
initiated
under
our
former
leader,
patrick
talarico,
who
developed
the
policy
in
working
with
the
city
attorney.
It
was
our
understanding
that
he
had
also
worked
with
the
sustainability
commission
in
developing
this.
L
We
were
later
informed
that
they
did
discuss
it
briefly
at
their
meeting
in
september,
but
did
not
offer
much
in
the
way
of
input
to
that.
So
our
apologies
again
with
the
transition
and
leadership.
We
thought
that
the
sustainability
commission
had
put
more
work
into
this
than
actually
resulted
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
conclude
my
comments
and
go
ahead
and
take
your
input
and
questions.
L
F
You
and
thank
you
for
that
explanation.
I
spoke
to
the
city
manager
on
this
as
well,
because
when
I
first
read
it,
I
had
a
lot
of
edits
things
that
I'd
like
to
see
us
do
that
we
were
talking
about
so
I
was
a
little
surprised
to
on
consent,
but
now
that
I
understand
we
have
to
do
this
for
state
law
and
just
so
it's
clear
so
we're
doing
the
minimum,
plus
the
things
we're
already
doing
right
so
that
that
makes
sense.
F
I
also
heard
from
sustainability
commission
they
hadn't
seen
sort
of
the
draft
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
fine
to
pass
given
given
all
that,
but
I
would
suggest
or
be
part
of
motion,
however,
is
that
we
do
have
sustainability
commission
work
on
it.
I'm
sure
you
probably
get
a
subcommittee
who
could
do
a
lot
of
work
on
it.
You
know
just
looking
through
things
like
we'll
only
use
recycled
paper
if
it's
not
more
expensive.
That
may
not
be
something
right.
F
We
want
to
do
as
a
leading
policy
so
and
maybe
bring
it
back
in
the
next
seven
to
eight
months,
given
other
priorities.
I
know
that
are
there
and
also
look
at
you
know,
we
can't
do
all
these
at
once,
so
maybe
a
phase
plan
for
how
we're
going
to
phase
these
things
in
over
time
right.
So
it's
not
overwhelming
on
staff
at
the
same
time.
So
does
that.
L
Timing
seem
to
work.
Yes,
it
would
actually.
What
I
might
suggest
is
section.
Four
of
the
document
is
really
the
only
one
that's
relative
to
sb
1383,
and
perhaps
what
we
might
do
this
evening
is
pass
section,
four,
the
remainder
of
the
document.
What
I
would
recommend
is
that
we
work
with
the
sustainability
commission
and
bring
it
back
to
you
at
a
later
date.
A
L
In
terms
of
the
general
plan
designation,
I
show
the
parcel
here
with
a
red
outline
again
at
south
sunrise
way
and
sunny
dunes
road.
The
parcel
is
designated
by
the
general
plan
as
very
low
density
residential,
which
allows
up
to
four
units
to
the
acre,
and
so
the
proposed
change
of
zone
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan
designation
for
the
site.
L
L
What
they're
proposing
to
do
is
to
rezone
the
northern
majority
of
the
site,
to
r1c
to
be
consistent
across
the
entire
site.
As
I
had
mentioned,
they
do
intend
to
develop
four
single-family
lots
on
this
property.
You
can
see
the
configuration
here
in
terms
of
the
residences
that
are
proposed.
They
will
essentially
be
consistent
in
terms
of
architecture
and
footprint
with
the
homes
that
were
built
on
sunny
dunes
on
the
north
side
of
sunny
dunes
just
around
the
corner.
L
The
planning
commission
reviewed
this
item
at
their
meeting
in
late
january
and
recommended
approval
of
the
rezoning
by
a
vote
of
six
to
zero.
Finding
that
the
proposed
request
was
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
In
addition,
they
also
conditionally
approved
a
tentative
parcel
map
for
the
site
conditioned
upon
city
council
approval
of
the
change
of
zone
with
that.
Madam
mayor,
that
concludes
my
presentation.
L
K
My
question
relates
to
I
understand
that
it
was
zoned
this
way,
but
part
of
our
housing
element
and
everything
and
the
changes
we've
made
recently
is
creating
a
lot
more
density.
So
why
would
we
not
have
higher
density
on
this
parcel
to
be
more,
in
conformance
with
where
we
are
we're
at
right?
Now,.
L
L
We
recently
reviewed
a
draft
of
the
housing
element
with
city
council
and
the
planning
commission
and
specifically
identified
certain
areas
of
the
city
and
certain
parcels
more
specifically
where
we
would
be
increasing
density.
We
are
looking
to
increase
density
in
multi-family
areas
and
then
also
looking
at
how
we
can
incorporate
residential
units
in
commercial
areas
as
well,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
strategies
that
we
have
in
our
draft
housing
element
to
do
that.
L
Looking
at
this
particular
parcel,
we
did
consider
this
as
an
option,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
we
have
worked
with
other
applicants
in
the
past
looking
at
how
we
might
do
multi-family
housing
on
this
parcel.
In
fact,
the
current
property
owner
even
reviewed
a
plan
with
us
with
some
possibilities
for
multi-family
units,
but
based
on
the
shallowness
of
the
parcel,
the
access
to
the
parcel.
L
There
were
reasons
why
it
just
was
not
feasible.
To
do
that,
I
have
looked
at
other
options
on
this
parcel.
In
the
past.
There
was
a
probably
about
four
or
five
years
ago.
Someone
else
was
looking
at
doing,
multifamily
also
abandoned
it.
I
had
someone
else
come
in
looking
to
do
office
and
so
just
based
on
the
nature
of
the
property,
its
size
and
shape,
and
some
other
conditions
relative
to
the
property.
It
just
hasn't
been
feasible
to
do
more
density.
L
K
So,
just
to
follow
up
to
that,
thank
you
that
that
helps
a
lot
to
know
the
history
of
that
plot.
Why
only
four
homes,
and
not
six,
for
instance,
they
look
like
fairly
large
homes.
L
They
are,
there
is
a
cap
on
density
in
the
general
plan
for
the
very
low
density
residential
designation,
which
allows
up
to
four
units
to
the
acre
if
they
tried
to
squeeze
an
additional
unit
on
the
property
number
one
it
wouldn't
conform
with
the
r1c
zoning
standards
and
number
two.
It
would
exceed
the
density,
that's
permitted
by
the
general
plan,
so
we're
kind
of
capped
at
four
units.
There.
K
L
L
A
Other
questions
for
staff
council,
okay,
nope
all
right
this
time,
I'd
like
to
open
the
public
hearing,
the
applicant
will
have
up
to
five
minutes
to
provide
testimony
and
the
public
is
invited
to
speak
on
this
public
hearing
for
up
to
two
minutes.
If
there
are
other
speakers,
the
applicant
will
be
invited
to
provide
a
rebuttal
of
up
to
two
minutes.
Mr
emily,
do
we
have
any
public
speakers
on
this
item.
L
B
Manager
and
the
applicant's
representative,
four
single
family
homes
are
the
most
appropriate
use
for
this
remainder
parcel.
D
H
And
a
half
bath
and
then
I
believe.
D
These
would
also
be
eligible
under
sd-9
for
further
subdivision,
but
at
that
time
we're
not
looking
at
that.
So
thank
you
again
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
All
right.
A
All
right,
thank
you
with
that.
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
there
being
no
other
speakers.
Is
there
discussion
or
additional
questions
from
council.
I
L
I
You
we
will
get
up
to
basically
eight
units
versus
four
units.
Potentially
yes,
okay,
concern
during
the
site
planning
process
is
sunrise.
You
know
as
an
arterial
or
collector
whatever
it
is.
We
really
don't
want
cars
backing
out.
I
see
that
under
the
the
the
the
schematic
that's
been
done,
there's
a
hammerhead,
but
if
you
are
parking
additional
cars
for
an
adu
that
hammerhead
may
not
be
free,
there's
a
concern
about
that.
I
As
the
planning
commission
looks
at
it,
it
would
be
just
I
just
don't
want
to
see
us
approve
something
with
this.
Many
driveway
curb
cuts
on
a
major
arterial
causing
conflicts
and
potential
accidents,
but
I
I
support
the
the
change
of
zone.
Thank
you.
K
K
These
these
homes
are
are
going
to
be
large
they're,
going
to
be
very
nice
they're
going
to
be
over
800
000
and,
as
we
know,
we're
flooded
with
a
very
expensive
places
and
we
don't
have
any
moderate
housing
and
we
don't
have
nearly
enough
affordable
housing
below
that,
and
I
would
really
like
us
to
make
sure
that
we,
basically
that
we
stop
with
the
very
expensive
homes
and
really
focus
our
energies
on
attracting
homes
that
are
more
affordable
for
our
residents,
because
this
seems
to
be
our
continuing
trend,
even
though
we
talk
quite
extensively
about
lower
income
and
moderate
income
properties.
K
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there,
because
I
know
that
there's
so
many
residents
that
are
concerned
about
this
and
are
being
pushed
out
of
our
city.
So
while
this
is
something
that
makes
sense
under
the
law
and
our
zoning
code,
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
more
to
prevent
this
type
of
thing
from
happening
in
the
future.
A
This
is
a
development,
that's
in
my
district
and
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
homes
that
were
built
on
sunny
dunes.
I've
actually
have
friends
who
own
homes
in
this
development
they
were
when
they
were
built
on
sunny
dunes,
actually
considered
to
be
more
modest
in
terms
of
price
points
within
palm
springs,
which
price
points
in
with
in
palm
springs
today
very
little
to
nothing
is
modest,
but
these
homes
were
extremely
well
executed.
A
They
have
been
very
positive
contributors
to
the
community
and
I'm
pleased
to
second,
the
motion
and
very
pleased
to
see
these
homes
get
built.
I
think
there
are
is
a
need
to
build
homes
across
the
economic
spectrum,
and
we've
got
to
continue
our
work
to
find
other
alternatives
which
we
have
in
a
couple
of
places
too,
to
build
more
affordable
housing
and
more
multi-family
housing.
A
D
Community
development
block
grant
or
cdbg
funding
allocation
process,
a
public
hearing
is
required
to
take
public
testimony
before
the
annual
action
plan
is
made
available
to
the
public
for
review.
A
second
public
hearing
is
required
for
the
city
council
to
approve
the
annual
action
plan
estimated
to
take
place
at
the
april
21st
city
council
meeting.
D
D
A
A
D
A
H
Madam
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
the
item
before
you
tonight
is
a
discussion,
and
it's
really
a
policy
discussion
in
terms
of
how
the
city
would
like
to
address
a
relatively
new
business
model
that
has
emerged
within
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
throughout
other
communities.
H
The
item
pertains
to
a
business
model
that
has
been
that
has
been
brought
into
our
community
by
a
company
called
picasso,
and
even
though
we're
talking
about
picasso,
it's
important
for
the
council
to
remember
that,
what's
being
asked,
is
really
a
broader
perspective
than
just
picasso.
It's
really
about
the
business
model
that
picasso
is
proposing,
essentially
what
picasso
does
and
what
their
business
model
does.
Is
it
purchases
residential
properties
and
then
sells
those
properties
to
limited
liability
corporations
which
are
essentially
companies,
corporations
of
a
different
form?
H
The
picasso
then
provides
property
management
services
to
the
llc
and
its
members
that
owns
the
residential
property,
provides
cleaning.
Services
provides
property
management
services
and
the
owners
of
the
llc
are
entitled
to
exclusive
use
of
that
residential
property
by
way
of
a
contract
that
they
have
through
the
llc
and
then
the
llc
also
has
a
service
contract
with
picasso.
The
llc
can,
if
it
wishes,
terminate
that
agreement
with
picasso
and
thereafter
essentially
just
own
the
the
property
through
their
llc
without
any
without
any
regard
to
picasso.
H
But
the
intended
business
model
is
for
picasso,
then
to
also
maintain
a
business
relationship
with
the
llc.
H
It's
our
belief
that
picasso's
business
model
does
fit
within
the
definition
of
timeshare
and,
as
a
result,
the
city
has
sent
a
letter
to
picasso
indicating
that
we
believe
that
their
business
model
falls
within
the
definition
of
timeshare
in
palm
springs
and
therefore
is
prohibited
within
single-family
residential
zones.
H
To
their
credit,
picasso
did
reach
out
to
the
city
and
its
officials
late
last
year
in
the
fall
of
2021
and
met
with
various
city
officials,
including
the
city
manager,
myself,
and
then
then
mayor
hostage
kind
of
explained
what
their
business
model
was
and
attempted
to
reach
out
to
the
city,
and
they
did
that
before
we
sent
the
letter
to
them
after
we
sent
the
letter
to
them,
they
engaged
local
legal
counsel
and
that
legal
counsel
was
a
public
commenter
earlier
and
he
is
available
on
zoom.
H
Should
the
city
council
want
to
to
talk
to
him
or
ask
him
any
questions?
He
was
very
professional
and
he,
you
know
he
maintained
dialogue
and
communication
with
with
our
office.
Through
this
entire
time.
Picasso's
legal
counsel
subsequently
sent
a
letter
asserting
that
they
don't
believe
that
their
their
business
model
falls
within
the
definition
of
time
share
in
their
ordinance.
H
Our
office
continues
to
believe
that
it
does
not
withstanding
their
their
protest
stations
to
the
contrary,
so
that
leaves
us
with
kind
of
a
policy
question
for
the
council
in
terms
of
whether
the
council
wishes
to
continue
with
our
current
ordinance
enforcing
that
against
picasso
and
their
timeshare
in
their
their
business
model.
H
Picasso
has
purchased
and
sold
one
residential
property
that
we're
aware
of
within
the
city
based
on
what
they
told
us
in
the
fall
of
last
year.
They
also
had
four
other
properties
that
they
were
marketing.
H
It's
not
known
whether
and
how
much
the
the
llc
interest
in
those
other
properties
have
been
sold,
but
that
was
what
we
were
aware
of.
As
of
late
2021.
H
One
option,
as
I
mentioned,
would
be
to
continue
with
our
current
ordinance
enforcing
that
against
picasso
and
their
business
model.
Another
option
would
be
to
direct
staff
in
the
city
attorney's
office,
to
update
our
ordinance
to
more
specifically
prohibit
their
business
model
and
other
business
models
like
picassos.
H
H
Even
though
the
the
text
of
our
ordinance
does
does
fit
within
what
they
are
doing,
this
specific
type
of
business
model
may
not
have
been
envisioned
at
that
time.
So,
should
the
council
want
to
more
clearly
and
explicitly
prohibit
this
type
of
business
model?
H
It
would
be
recommended
that
you
direct
staff
in
the
city
attorney's
office
to
to
bring
back
an
ordinance
update
and
several
other
communities,
certainly
within
california,
have
have
been
doing
that
the
city
of
saint
helena,
which
was
sued
by
picasso
about
a
year
ago.
They
are
currently
in
the
process
of
updating
their
ordinance.
H
The
city
of
hermosa
beach
is
also
updating
their
ordinance,
and
those
are
just
two
that
we're
aware
of
picasso's
council
sent
a
letter
to
the
city
earlier
today,
where
they
indicate
that
there
are
other
communities
that
they've
worked
with
to
try
and
regulate
this
particular
business
model,
while
I'm
not
aware
of
any,
and
they
didn't
cite
any
of
those
communities
in
their
letter.
H
H
F
But
one
thing
just
one
thing
on
what
our
current
ordinance
says,
because
I
think
it
was
mentioned
by
council
for
picasso
that
doesn't
meet
it
because
our
ordinance
and
that's
one
section,
that's
not
in
the
staff
report.
F
F
The
definition
the
first
one
is
for
purposes
of
the
section.
A
timeshare
project
is
one
in
which
timeshare
rights
or
entitlement
to
use
or
occupy
any
real
property
or
portion
in
the
rob
has
been
divided,
12
or
more
times,
time
periods
for
such
right
and
entitlement.
F
H
That
that's
correct
council
member
coors,
our
ordinance,
provides
that
a
time
share
is,
is
basically
a
use
of
property
that
is
divided
into
12
or
more
time
periods
and
you're.
Absolutely
right,
even
though
there
are
only
eight
owners
up
to
eight
owners.
The
time
periods
that
they're
entitled
to
occupy
are
from
two
to
fourteen
days,
and
so
even
at
the
maximum
of
14
days,
that's
going
to
provide
for
more
than
12
time
periods
that
the
property
has
been
divided
into
into
exclusive
use
so
that
that
is
why
it
meets
the
def.
F
And
why
we
need
to
look
at
this
from
a
policy
perspective
to
either
change
that
if
we
want
to
allow
this
or
not
in
the
question
frame
picasso's,
I
think
the
first
one
I'm
aware
of
in
the
country
who's
doing
this,
but
whatever
we
do
related
to
them
or
tonight
would
apply
to
any
something
similar.
So
if
someone,
if
we,
if
we
decide,
we
want
to
change
the
ordinance
to
allow
this
use,
someone
could
have
52
owners
who
each
have
use
of
it
for
a
week.
F
Different
owners
is
that,
theoretically,
yes,
just
from
a
policy
perspective,
as
we
talk
about
it,
I
think
we
they're
the
ones
right
now,
but
obviously
this
this
is
a
broader,
a
broader
issue,
and
then
I
I
appreciate
I
got
there
sort
of
the
rules
that
the
owners
agree
to
about
no
events
and
noise
and
no
vacation,
rentals
and
all
kinds
of
stuff.
F
Given,
I
think
the
first
one,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
the
first
one,
I
think
it
is
it's
across
the
street
about
four
houses
down
from
where
I
live,
know
that
owners
or
whoever's
been
occupying
it
has
not
always
followed
those
rules.
So
what
is
our
enforcement
ability
to
enforce
any
of
the
rules
regarding
parties,
events,
noise
or
anything
like
that?
H
The
the
city
would
have
no
legal
authority
to
enforce
the
those
contractual
provisions
by
the
by
the
owners.
The
city
would
would
be
limited
to
its
its
existing
enforcement
authority
over
things
like
noise
parking
light.
Those
types
of
things
that
exist
in
throughout
the
city,
but
the
the
rules
that
they
agreed
to
initially
the
city
would
not
have
any
authority,
and
for
that
matter
they
could.
The
members
could
decide
to
change
those
rules
themselves.
H
If
they,
if
they
broke
away
from
picasso,
they
could
change
the
llc
agreement
and
have
no
rules
or
lesser
rules.
So
there
really
wouldn't
be
any
enforcement
authority
to
speak
of
okay.
That's.
I
I
just
very
quickly:
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
department
of
real
estate,
the
state
department
of
real
estate
and
how
that
applies
and
what
we
should
be
looking
at
in
our
decision
making
tonight
sure.
H
Sure
so
the
department
of
real
estate
regulates
time
shares
more
in
the
sense
of
from
a
consumer
protection
standpoint
based
on
historical
practices
that
have
occurred
with
what
people
typically
think
of
time
shares
in
terms
of
maybe
hyatt
or
or
those
types
of
large
timeshare
projects.
H
A
And
I
have
a
few
questions,
so,
mr
bellinger,
if
three
or
four
friends
or
family
members
gathered
together
and
wanted
to
buy
a
second
home
in
palm
springs,
is
there
any
action
that
the
city
would
take
to
prohibit
that
that
use
of
multiple
individuals
coming
together
to
purchase
a
home
and
form
an
llc
for
to
be
able
to
have
that
home.
H
The
the
scenario
you
provide
doesn't
include
any
of
that.
It
sounds
like
more
of
an
informal
arrangement.
Certainly,
the
ownership
is
is
somewhat
similar
to
this,
but
in
terms
of
the
the
use
of
the
property.
What
your?
What
your
scenario
envisions
is
is
different
from
what
picasso
is
doing
in
terms
of
having
a
contractual
relationship
between
these
parties
and
also
with
picasso
itself
right.
A
So,
just
to
flesh
out
my
scenario:
three
siblings,
that
are
of
adult
age
all
come
together
and
agree
to
purchase
a
second
home
in
a
commun
in
the
palm
springs
community,
and
they
each
agree
that
they
will
get
four
months
use
of
that
home.
A
So
they've
divided
it
up
by
time,
yet
they
own
it
collectively.
City
has
no
interest
in
that
transaction.
A
A
One
of
the
questions
that
that
we
have
to
answer
as
we
move
forward
with
this
is
whether
or
not
housing
supply
is
a
legitimate
public
policy
concern.
Is
that
something
that
we
can
consider
as
a
factor
as
we
decide
to
move
forward.
H
Yes,
I
believe
it.
It
is,
and
I
know
that
some
analogies
have
been
drawn
to
the
city's
vacation
rental
policy
and
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
the
vacation,
rental
ordinance
palm
springs.
Vacation
rental
ordinance
is
premise
on
the
idea
that
those
residences
are
primarily
used
by
the
owner
and
the
vacation
rental
use
is
an
incidental
and
ancillary
use
what's
being
proposed
by
the
picasso
model
is
pure
secondary,
vacation,
home
use
and-
and
I
think
that's
a
fair
distinction
to
be
made
when
we're
talking
about
housing,
supply
issues.
H
A
And
the
picasso
business
model
is
been
one
that
has
been
oriented
towards
luxury
level.
Homes
and
luxury
gets
defined
in
a
lot
of
different
ways,
but
is
there
any
ability
for
us
to
set
limits
on
what
type
of
home
could
be
available
for
fractured
ownership,
such
as
requiring
that
it
be
two
or
three
or
four
times
the
median
price
of
a
single
family
home
in
palm
springs?.
H
A
I
think
that's
a
question
that
I'm
particularly
interested
in
as
to
some
ability
to
define
a
luxury
level
and
restrict
this
type
of
home
to
luxury
to
that
level
and
above
and
I'm
not
necessarily
saying
that's
where
I
want
to
go
but
clearly
getting
down
below
that
luxury
level
in
this
market
creates
concerns.
A
Right,
the
one
of
the
questions
has
come
up
with
the
12
time
shares.
So
if
the
business
model
of
picasso
was
different
with
eight
ownership
levels
and
only
eight
time
periods
during
the
course
of
the
year
in
which
someone
could
own
would
that
still
fall
within
the
times
within
our
timeshare
ordinance.
No.
A
H
I
think
it
would,
it
would
put
the
city
in
a
a
very
unique
position
with
the
with
the
occupants.
We
wouldn't
then
necessarily
have
an
ordinance,
the
way
that
they
would
be
capable
of
being
enforced.
The
way
we
normally
enforce
our
ordinances
in
terms
of
citations
and
other
consequences
and
remedies,
so
it
would
be,
it
would
basically
be
a
contractual
relationship
with
those
occupants
and
and
those
aren't
always
as
efficient
to
enforce
contractually.
A
A
I
follow
what
what
you're
saying
and
where
I'm
coming
from
is.
One
of
the
options
that's
been
laid
out
to
us
is
that
we
could
create
a
regulatory
regime
and
I'm
trying
to
flesh
out
what
that
regulatory
regime
could
potentially
look
like,
and
certainly
the
effective
model
that
we
have
for
a
regulatory
regime
is
our
vacation
rental
ordinance
where
we
have
enforcement
personnel
who
go
out
to
enforce
what
in
this
case,
are
city
ordinances.
A
But
is
there
any
legal
mechanism
by
which
we
can
have
our
vacation
rental
ordinances
or
the
equivalent
thereof
applied
to
to
this
business
model?.
H
Yes,
we
could
so
if
we
adopted
an
ordinance,
you
know
modeled
after
our
vacation
rental
ordinance
that
incorporated
the
contractual
provisions
that
picasso
has
provided.
Then
that
would
essentially
have
that
that
effect
of
having
the
regulatory
regime.
A
I
see
one
of
my
colleagues
making
mulch.
F
I
thought
that
was
an
interesting
point
and
I
was
just
thinking
right,
something
similar
to
it
without
having
thought
for
sure
what
I
think
on
it,
but
something
similar
to
our
vacation
rental
ordinance.
That
would
be
for
time
shares
in
residential
neighborhoods
per
se
right
in
our
one
zone.
Neighborhood.
H
I
think
one
one
kind
of
tricky
component
of
that
would
be
what
the
remedies
are.
You
know
currently,
our
vacation
rental
ordinance
has
some
severe
penalties
in
terms
of
prohibiting
the
use
of
the
property
as
vacation
rental
after
three
violations,
once
you've
got
up
to
eight
owners
who
are
owning
a
property
through
an
llc
that
becomes
a
little
bit
more
tricky
to
dis,
dismantle
if
you
end
up
with
those
three
violations,
but
that
would
just
be
something
that
we'd
want
to
think
about
right.
A
A
Is
there
any
other
questions
I
would
like
to
if
we
could
bring?
Mr
bauer
back
to
specifically
comment
on
the
legal
question
as
to
whether
or
not
he
agrees
with
the
legal
analysis
that
this
is
a
division
of
12
or
more
time
shares,
as
opposed
to
12
or
more
owners.
H
A
There
he
is
hello,
welcome
hi,
so
we
have
a
dispute
among
attorneys
as
to
what
the
the
meaning
of
the
12
divisions
of
time
is,
and
I'd
like
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
to
comment
on
mr
coors
and
mr
ballinger's
reading
of
the
rule
of
the
ordinance.
J
Well,
we
categorically
oppose
that
view.
I
mean
the
view
that
you
definitely.
A
Among
attorneys
as
to.
J
All
right
I'll
try
this
again.
Now
we
we
have
a
starkly
different
view
of
whether
the
city
can
regulate
the
picasso
in
the
manner
suggested
by
a
city
attorney.
First
of
all,
there
have
been
numerous
communities
in
the
state
that
have
allowed
this
indian
wells.
Mr
ballinger
was
the
attorney
at
the
time,
had
issued
a
notice
of
violation
that
they
rescinded
in
april
of
last
year.
J
So
we
can
provide
a
list
of
those
communities
which
were
operating
and
they're
permitting
this
this
model
and
also,
as
we
pointed
out
in
our
letter
extensively,
there
was
actually
a
contrary
opinion
that
was
presented
by
a
partner
with
best
bets
in
krieger
that
the
city
and
saint
helena
could
not
regulate
the
ownership
of
land,
as
we
believe
the
city
would
be
attempting
to
do
in
this
instance,
while
the
city
is
within
its
powers
to
regulate
land
use,
that
sort
of
the
quintessential
function
of
a
city
is
to
regulate
land
use,
they're,
not
permitted
to
regulate
the
ownership
of
property,
and
so
what
they
would
be
doing
in
this
instance,
they'd
be
taking
a
look
at
who's,
owning
property
in
the
city,
and
we
don't
believe
that
is
permissible.
J
I
cited
the
instance
of
I
think.
16
of
the
property
in
the
city
is
already
owned
in
llcs
and
trust.
Is
the
city
going
to
go?
Take
a
look
at
those
llc's
in
the
form
and
the
function
of
those
llc's
to
see.
If
there's
partners
that
are
operating
there's,
there
could
well
be
llc's
that
exist.
Currently
that
have
eight
or
more
members
that
are
using
that
in
a
similar
manner
as
picasso.
So
is
the
city
going
to
go?
J
Take
a
look
at
family
trust
to
determine
if
there's
eight
family
members
using
a
piece
of
property,
you
can
see
the
problem
that
exists,
and
so
we
don't
believe
such
a
statute
would
cut
would
withstand
constitutional
muster
for
the
reasons
we
set
forth
in
our
letter-
and
we
don't
believe
this
is
very
well
been
well
very
well
presented
and
there's
certainly
further
analysis.
That's
needed
before
the
city
takes
any
action
in
this
matter.
All
right.
A
Mr
bowers,
specifically,
you
raised
the
question
in
your
presentation
earlier
that
the
time
shared
ordinance
did
not
apply
because
there
were
fewer
than
12
members
and
it
is
the
opinion
of
the
city
attorney.
As
I
understand
it,
and
also
mr
coors,
who
is
an
attorney,
falls
in
the
same
camp
as
I
understand
it.
J
Well,
the
difference
is
that
in
a
time
share
a
person
purchases
a
piece
of
time,
that's
what
they're
purchasing!
That's
why
it's
called
a
time
share
in
our
model
is
not
the
same.
You
are
a
fee
owner.
You
are
one
of
the
eight
owners
in
the
property
and
so
they're
just
categorically
different
they're,
not
the
same.
J
F
Member
course
great,
thank
you
and
thank
you,
mr
bower.
We
can
disagree
on
that
and
put
I
want
to
focus
on
some
of
the
policy
things
because
on
this,
but
one
of
the
things
you
had
said
just
now
again
was
16
of
the
homes
are
owned
in
an
llc
or
trust
and
in
the
valley
voice.
F
It
actually
is
slightly
different,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
it
and
it
might
be
relevant
for
another
conversation
we're
having
tonight
that
16
of
the
homes
in
palm
springs
are
non-owner
occupied
and
own
an
llc
or
trust.
So
is
it
both
of
those
so,
for
example,
I'm
a
full-time
resident.
F
J
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
the
precise
number.
I
know
there's
a
large
number.
I
know
in
newport
beach
they
did
a
had
a
study
session
regarding
picasso
and
there
it's
operating
there
and
the
city
presented
this
issue
and
in
newport
beach
it
was.
The
number
was
53
percent.
The
property
was
held
residentially
in
an
llc
or
a
trust.
So
I
don't
know
the
precise
number,
but
the
point
of
it
is
it's
not
really
the
number
it's
the
issue
itself.
H
I
am
not,
but
I
I
do
think
I
do
think
the
record
should
be
clear.
The
city
of
indian
wells
did
not
rescind
the
nov.
They
said
they
would
not
be
enforcing
it
at
the
time,
which
are
two
different
things.
The
city
of
indian
wells
presumably
can
still
decide
to
proceed
with
enforcement
of
of
its
ordinance
should
it
wish
to
so
that
should
be
clarified.
A
J
J
All
right
now
we
can
begin
a
discussion
regarding
the
regulations
or
we
can
begin
a
dialogue
with
picasso.
If
there
are
certain
things
that
the
city
would
like
to
undertake
the
in
in
other
respects
and
that's
the
dialogue,
I
thought
we
were
having
all
right.
J
And,
of
course,
it
depends
certainly
the
the
what
we're
talking
about
it
depends,
but
we're
certainly
open
to
that
dialogue.
Yes,
all
right.
Thank
you.
F
My
understanding
is
similar.
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
with
the
city
attorney
from
my
research
on
this
is
we
can't
pass
something
that
would
say
anything
about
who
owns
a
home
if
it's
what
fraction?
It
is
anything
like
that,
but
we
can
say
something
when
it
comes
to
use
time
periods
things
along
those
lines.
H
F
A
I
Yes,
mr
ballinger,
can
you
just
to
pick
up
on
that
conversation
and
also
the
conversation
that
council
member
coors
had
there
really
is
a
difference
between
somebody
setting
up
an
llc
which
might
be
to
protect
your
assets
or,
if
you're
a
celebrity
or
something,
then
what
they're
doing,
and
can
you
just
expound
on
that
here.
H
Yes
and
it
actually
kind
of
tears
off
of
what
I
just
said,
which
is:
should
the
council
give
us
direction
to
either
update
the
ordinance
or
regulate?
H
We
would
not
be
regulating
based
on
the
ownership,
whether
it's
owned
by
a
trust
or
whether
it's
owned
by
you
know,
what's
sometimes
referred
to
as
fractional
ownership.
What
we
would
be
regulating
is
how
the
property
is
used
in
terms
of
being
split
up
into
occupancy
periods
of
a
particular
number
of
of
periods.
So
that's
the
distinction
and
it's
a
fine
distinction,
but
it
can
kind
of
be
borne
out
by
you
know,
technically
the
the
property
that
picasso
has
sold
to
its
llc
and
is
now
owned
by
up
to
eight
owners.
H
If
they
they
broke
away
from
picasso,
and
they
decided
to
allow
one
of
its
members
to
use
the
the
property
for
the
entire
year.
That
would
not
be
subject
to
our
regulation,
because
our
our
ordinance
does
not
does
not
depend
on
how
many
people
own
it
or
how
it's
owned.
It's
it
depends
on
how
the
property
is
used
and
how
its
occupancy
is
split
up
and.
I
H
A
F
Member
course
great
just
to
follow
up
on
councilmember
woods
comments
and
thank
you
for
those
questions.
Is
you
know,
because
in
the
valley
voice,
they
said
it
was
also
non-owner
occupied
and
a
lot
of
rental
homes.
People
do
own
those
full-time
rental
homes
and
llc's
and
trusts,
and
I
know
we'll
be
talking
about
vacation,
rentals
and
home
ownership
later
tonight,
but
a
lot
of
those
could
be
homes
that
people
are
renting
who
live
here
full
time
right,
raising
families,
workers
in
the
city
may
not
be
at
the
price
point.
F
Picasso
primarily
is
buying,
because
there
are
people
who
buy
1.2
million
homes
to
live
and
raise
families
in
palm
springs
at
this
time.
Given
our
price
point
now,
so
it's
an
interesting
data
point
that
I
might
add
to
my
list
for
our
next
item,
but
I
think
they're
they
seem
like.
There
are
two
different
issues
here
right,
so
one
is:
do
we
want
to
allow
property,
regardless
of
how
it's
owned,
to
be
divided
up
into
more
than
12
time
segments?
F
And
then,
if
we
do
what
rules?
If
any
do
we
want
to
apply?
I
think
because
we
can't
regulate
who
owns
it,
our
fractional
ownership
and
that's
helpful.
I
think
for
folks
to
know,
because
that
was
one
of
the
requests
from
the
hospitality
association
is.
We
come
up
with
a
new
model
just
for
fractional
ownership,
but
that's
something
we
can't
do
it's
really
about
use
and
I
think
one
other
can-
and
I
think
the
concern
on
both
hands
is
that
we
need
to
sort
of
try
and
get
around.
F
In
this
case,
two
days
to
two
weeks
at
a
time
versus
people
who
are
using
is
a
primary
or
secondary
residence,
but
it
still
as
a
residence
in
a
single
family
home
in
a
single-family
neighborhood,
and
the
second
is
what
rules
would
apply
because
to
a
neighbor,
it's
like
in
many
ways
a
vacation
rental,
but
without
all
the
rules
we
have
for
vacation
rentals
right,
no
ban
on
unlimited
events,
noise,
parking,
etc,
etc,
and
no
enforcement
right.
No,
so
I
think
those
are
the
two
related
issues.
F
You
know
one
of
the
complaints
I
received,
and
you
know
I
don't
know
the
facts
firsthand,
even
though
it
was
a
couple
houses
away
was
someone
at
the
home
near
me:
who's
staying
there
took
a
hose
on
a
gardener,
next
door,
who's
on
a
ladder,
trimming,
hedges
and
the
people
at
that
house
called
the
police.
F
I
don't
know
if
we
have
that
data
or
not,
but
I
know
we
when
I
got
that
I
did
ask
for
it
today,
but
it
was
very
late
notice
who
came
and
asked
if
they
want
to
file
charges
and,
according
to
this
folks-
and
this
is
not
meant
against
anyone
who
is
in
that
that
home
or
picasso
said
they
weren't
one
of
the
owners
and
they
didn't
know
who
the
owners
were,
and
I'm
only
asking
that
not
assuming
that
happened.
I
don't
know
that
is
so.
F
What
happens
if
right,
according
to
their
agreement,
they
can't
rent
it.
They
can
let
friends,
relatives
anyone.
They
know,
use
the
house
as
during
their
first
share,
but
they
can't
rent
it
to
someone
else
and
therefore
doesn't
have
a
vacation
rental
permit.
But
what
would
we
do
if
we
went
out
there
and
someone
said
that,
and
maybe
that's
more
for
the
city
manager
right,
so
our
police
find
out
that
it
seems
that
someone
may
be
renting.
F
G
To
be
honest,
that
can
be
somewhat
difficult
from
an
enforcement
standpoint
when
someone
just
refuses
to
give
certain
information
or
doesn't
have
information,
I
can
only
relate
it
to
some
of
the
early
days
of
short-term
rentals
in
other
communities
where
there
was
similar
allegations
that
renters
were
staying
by
choice,
but
not
paying
or
something
like
that,
and
there's
just
no
way
to
prove
that
right.
So
I
do
think
that's
that's
a
vulnerability
and
difficult
to
administer.
F
Thank
you
and
then
something
else
in
and
mr
ballinger.
If
I'll
ask
this
in
a
way,
if
we
need
to
waive
closed
session,
you
can
tell
me
before
I
divulge
anything,
but
conversations
thus
far.
Can
we
discuss
with
picasso.
I
know
there
was
an
offer
that
they
might
be
open
to
some
regulation.
H
H
I
I
I'm
able
to
share
with
with
the
public
what
my
conversations
with
with
mr
bauer
were,
and
those
were
that
we
asked
picasso
to
hold
off
on
marketing
properties
within
palm
springs.
While
we
go
about
looking
at
different
different
approaches
to
deal
with
this,
that
was
met
with
resistance
from
picasso
and
they
rejected
our
request
to
hold
off
and,
as
far
as
I
know,
they
are
they're
still
marketing
they
did.
H
They
did
counter
with
an
offer
to
not
not
purchase
any
more
properties
that
are
less
than
one
and
a
half
times
the
median
price
point
within
palm
springs,
and
they
also
indicated
that
they
would
do
do
some
other
things,
but
in
in
my
view,
that
was
not
a
real
solid
offer,
since
it's
our
understanding
that
they
aren't
purchasing
and
marketing
properties
that
are
less
than
one
and
a
half
times
the
median
price
anyhow.
So
they
they
really
weren't,
providing
us
a
counteroffer
that
would
put
us
a
halt
on
what
they're
doing.
F
Were
they
willing,
if,
while
still
marketing
the
five,
I
think
they
have
for
one
of
which
may
be
full
from,
I
understand
it
not
to
buy
any
more
homes
at
any
price
point?
While
we
had
this
discussion.
A
So
we've
only
had
a
short
time
to
be
responding
to
this.
I
know.
In
the
last
few
weeks,
I've
received
a
number
of
phone
calls
and
comments
from
from
individuals
that
are
concerned
about
the
business
model,
and
most
of
those
concerns
have
followed
very
similar
concerns
that
arise
with
problematic
vacation
rentals
issues
of
of
noise.
In
particular,
I
think
we've
got
a
commitment
from
picasso
that
they
are
open
to
regulation.
A
We
are
missing
one
of
our
colleagues
this
evening
that
would
weigh
in
on
this.
A
But
I
think
I've
tipped
my
hand
on
some
areas
where
I'm
concerned,
and
that
is
that
these
homes
would
need
to
be
restricted
to
the
luxury
market
level.
That
we
would
need
to
be
cautious.
Regarding
how
many
there
were
in
our
community,
and
we
would
need
to
be
able
to
respond
in
regulatory
fashion
to
noise,
complaints
and
other
complaints
that
arise
during
vacation
rental,
similar
to
vacation
rental
situations.
F
So
I'm
you
know
open
to
trying
to
have
that
dialogue,
but
but
the
way
that
the
city
attorney
tried
to
have
it
right
if
they're
going
to
buy
more
homes
and
market
those
new
homes,
I
appreciate,
maybe
they
bought
some
homes
and
obviously
they
can
work
at
them
and
we
could
have
regulations,
but
if
they're
going
to
continue
to
buy
homes
in
palm
springs
and
advertise
and
to
buy
more
homes
with
this
model,
while
we're
trying
to
talk
to
them,
which
they
have
so
far
rejected,
I'm
not
comfortable
just
delaying
it
because
we're
adding
more
to
this
and
I'm
never
comfortable.
F
F
So
if
they
were
willing
to
do
that
great,
if
not
and
I'm
fine,
if
you
want
to
approach
them
with
that
again,
but
absent
they're
agreeing
not
to
buy
new
homes,
my
request
would
be
that
you
bring
back
something
that
regula
puts
similar
time,
timeshares
in
r1
zones
into
the
same
rules
as
vacation
rentals,
and
we
could
start
with
that
because
we
have
that
doesn't
mean
that's
what
we'll
end
up
with
and
also
what
you
think
you
need
to
update
are
our
zoning.
If
we
decided,
we
didn't
want
it
at
all.
F
Obviously,
if
we
want
it
like
it's
really
easy
to
update,
I
mean
update
our
code.
We
just
take
out
the
12.
so,
but
I
don't
want,
like
months
months
to
go
by
when
they
buy
five
more
homes.
F
If
they're
not
willing
to
do
in
good
faith,
we'll
we
would
negotiate,
but
not
if
they're
con,
I'm
okay,
if
they
market
their
ones.
I
don't
like
it,
but
that
seems
a
lot
easier
to
stomach
than
than
buying
new
homes,
but
that's
just
my
view.
I'd
rather
they
market
them.
But
you
know
if
they've
sold
three
shares
it's
sort
of
a
weird,
even
though
they
had
noticed
months
ago
from
you
and
chose
not
to
follow
a
cease
and
desist.
I
In
listening
to
the
attorney
for
picasso,
I
did
not
get
a
strong
feeling
that
they
would
negotiate
to
the
point
that
we
wanted
it
to
be.
Our
vacation
rental
ordinance
is
very
strict.
It
requires
people
to
pre-file
their
driver's
license.
So
when
the
police
show
up,
they
know
who's
there.
They
know
who
they're
dealing
with
it's
a
huge
thing.
It's
a
huge
regulatory
thing
the
city
would
take
on
that.
We
have
not
taken
on
it's
almost,
even
though
we
have
a
department
that
does
it.
It's
really
expanding
that
I
truly
don't
believe
we
should.
I
Let
corporations
buy
our
neighborhoods,
it's
one
thing
for
an
individual
investor
to
buy
a
neighborhood
and
maybe
rent
it
out
to
supplement
their
income
or
rent
a
room
out
to
supplement
their
income,
but
to
have
corporations
buying
our
neighborhoods,
which
is
a
huge
problem
throughout
the
country,
because
investment
techniques
are
changing
in
this
country
into
real
estate.
I
really
cannot
agree
with
it.
I
I
would
go
for
option
two
and
option
two
would
be
to
prohibit
it
change
our
ordinance
and
to
actually
lower
the
number
from
eight
to
something
else,
to
whatever
happens,
to
work
for
the
rentals.
But
I
really
don't
see
that
palm
springs
needs
to
be
south
florida,
where
there
is
a
sweeping
of
corporations
buying
up
entire
neighborhoods
and
completely
changing
the
face
and
the
character
of
the
history
of
palm
springs.
So
I
really
can't
support
it.
I
would
go
for
option
two.
F
It's
a
question,
so
I
have
the
same
concerns
right
and
we
can't
ban
corporate
ownership.
However
right
it's
just
the
use
we
can
regulate,
so
I'm
just
that's
where
I'm
trying
struggling
with
how
to
figure
this
out.
I
do
my
general
sense
is.
F
This
is
not
a
good
thing
in
our
residential
neighborhoods
right,
I
mean
you're
talking
at
least
26
changes
of
folks
staying
there
and
likely
a
lot
more
with
no
regulations,
and
you
know
if
they
got
a
vacation
rental
permit,
they
could
rent
it
a
certain
number
of
times,
but
it
would
be
hard
for
it
to
be
anyone's
a
secondary
use
of
someone's
residence.
F
So
that's
what
that's,
what
I'm
a
little
like
conflicted
on,
how
to
do
it,
but
I
agree
I
mean
we're
losing
and
I
know
we'll
talk
about
communication
rentals,
but
at
some
point
we
talked
earlier
right
at
our
public
hearing.
We
need
more
housing
stock
for
people
who
live
here
and
work
here
and
to
say
that
these
homes
would
only
wouldn't
go
to
people
live
here.
Full
time
is
simply
not
true.
I
know
people
who
moved
here
to
work
here
you
know
and
to
get.
F
What
is
now
considered.
You
know
in
palm
springs
middle
priced,
you
know,
two-bedroom
den
house
is
a
million.
Two
right
is
what
they
spent
and
that's
before,
and
that
was
a
year
ago.
So
those
are
not
just
luxury
homes
that
are
going
to
people
who
you
know
accumulate
homes
around
the
world.
I
mean
these
homes
are
used
by
people
who
live
here
full-time.
F
A
A
Picasso
will
be
very
aggressive
in
terms
of
their
litigation
mode
and
I
don't
want
to
venture
into
what
should
be
only
covered
in
closed
session,
but
our
positions
that
we
take
can
result
in
some
extremely
strong
likelihood
of
litigation
or
an
opportunity
to
perhaps
prohibit
that
litigation.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of,
as
we
make
our
decision
that
it's
unlikely,
depending
on
which
course
we
follow
that
we
will
go
unchallenged
and
yeah
if.
F
That
is
a
fair
point
and
I
think
we
spent
what
four
years
litigating
our
lawsuit
from
protect
our
neighborhoods,
which
went
through
the
appeals
court
and
we
won-
and
you
know
we're
threatened
with
litigation
the
other
way.
So,
ultimately,
we
have
to
make
the
policy
that
we
think
is
best
for
the
city
and
you
know,
threat
threats
of
litigation,
while
you
always
want
to
avoid
litigation,
sometimes
can't
be
avoided,
but
we
have
to
decide
what
the
right
policy
is
ultimately
for
the
city.
F
I
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
pick
up
a
point
that
the
mayor
made.
I
you
know,
picasso
is
one
company
and
I
think
the
term
is
there
will
be
many
many
copy,
potentially
many
many
copycat
companies
that
exist,
which
means
there's
many
many
opportunities
for
this
to
infiltrate
into
our
residential
neighborhood
neighborhoods.
I
should
say
and
things
so.
I
guess
I
would
make
a
motion
for
option
two
and
we'll
see
if
there's
a
second.
F
I
can
clarifying
on
that,
you
had
said,
but
so
update
the
city's
ordinance
and
right
so
we'd
maintain
the
current
prohibition
on
timeshares
that
update
the
city's
ordinance
would
be
option
two,
and
you
mentioned,
maybe
a
lower
number
of
segments
that
could
be
allowed
I'll.
Second,
that.
F
F
I
Look
into
a
number,
and
I'm
also,
if
I
can
be
so
be
celebr.
If
we
can't
you
know
they
are
suing
as
saint
helena.
I
believe
the
staff
report
had
mentioned.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
partner
saint
helena
if
we
are
sued
on
this
or
or
not,
but
it's
something
to
consider.
I
guess.
H
I
H
Mentioned
in
mr
bauer's
letter,
the
city
attorney's
office
is
the
same
city
attorney
as
saint
helena,
so
we
are
effectively
coordinating
efforts
so.
A
Sorry
so,
as
I
understand
the
motion,
we
are
directing
staff
to
come
back
to
us
with
a
updated
ordinance
that
would
maintain
the
current
prohibition
on
timeshares,
as
outlined
in
option
two
and
that's
yet
to
be
defined
as
to
what
that
would
look
like.
So
this
will
be
coming
back
to
city
council.
Is
that
correct?
F
A
So
we
now
will
be
moving
on
to
item
3b
and
3b.
Councilmember
woods
is
needs
to
abstain
and
I'll.
A
The
pleasure
of
staff:
do
we
want
to
break
now
for
a
few
minutes,
or
do
we
want
to
conclude,
go
forward.
F
A
D
B
L
Available
to
present
to
you
in
preparation
for
an
upcoming
study
session
with
me
here
this
evening,
is
our
executive
program
administrator,
patrick
clifford.
He
has
done
a
great
deal.
Work
in.
D
M
M
The
second
data
source
that
we
have-
and
it
may
be
more
of
an
internal
control
source
that
we
use,
but
it's
regarding
what
we
consider
past
due
permits
greater
than
90
days,
they're
expired
greater
than
90
days.
What
staff
use
this
is
for
is
for
identifying
properties
that
might
not
be
vacation
rentals
any
longer.
M
They
forget
to
do
their
annual
paperwork.
Maybe
they
forgot
to
do
their
annual
payments,
but
investigating
this
kind
of
gives
us
a
more
concise
count
or
precise
count
of
what
our
total
vacation
rental
population
is
and
allows
us
to
go
in
a
little
bit
more
in
depth
of
other
compliance
related
concerns.
M
A
third
data
source
that
we
may
provide
to
you
is
regarding
neighborhood
statistics,
and
so
our
list
of
vacation
rentals,
we
do
maintain,
contains
neighborhood
characteristics,
and
so
this
will
allow
us
to
really
focus
on
which
neighborhoods
have
vacation
rentals.
What's
that
quantity
of
vacation
rentals
in
neighborhoods
going
into
hopefully
looking
into
census
data,
we
can
really
look
into
what
that
is
compared
to
households
in
the
in
the
neighborhoods,
and
so
what
we
can
do
is
get
a
an
overview
of
well.
M
M
This
allows
us
to
maintain
the
overall
spirit
of
the
ordinance
of
ancillary
ancillary
or
secondary
use,
as
you
may
know
that
our
vacation
rentals
in
the
city
are
allowed
32
contracts,
short-term
contracts
a
year
with
an
additional
four
in
the
third
quarter
solely
to
be
used
in
the
third
quarter,
and
so
this
data
is
obtained
by
our
department
by
vacation
rental
participants
via
a
web
form
that
we
have
on
our
websites
and
they
simply
submit
their
information
to
us.
We
can
gather
that
information.
M
Look
at
possibly
what
the
median
contract
summary
is
that
each
vacation
rental
property
has
submitted
to
us
and
really
give
us
an
oversight
of.
What's
what's
the
accurate
or
I
guess
you
could
say,
what's
the
median
count
of
contracts
being
used
here
in
the
city
in
the
staff
report?
I
do
want
to
mention
that
on
page
three,
the
fourth
bullet
mentions
46
contracts.
That's
a
typo,
it
should
be
36,
that's
the
32
for
the
year
and
the
four
additionally
in
the
third
quarter.
M
M
M
So
that's
good
information
as
you
see
what,
where
the
volume
of
the
calls
are
coming
and
we're
also
able
to
look
at
just
in
total,
what
calls
are
coming
in
maybe
for
non-registered
vacation,
rentals
and-
and
it
might
not
even
be
a
vacation
rent,
a
non-vacation
rental
that
could
just
be
a
normal
prop,
an
average
property
in
the
city.
That's
not
acting
as
a
vacation
rental.
M
This
is
a
really
a
breakdown
of
citations
issued
to
vacation
rental
properties.
Our
co-compliance
officers
will
issue
based
off
our
municipal
code.
However,
we
do
issue
citations
to
properties
that
are
unregistered,
so
we
definitely
can
provide
data
regarding
that
and
we
can
break
down
this
data
to
show
how
many
properties
have
x
amount
of
citations.
How
many
have
no
citations?
M
We
can
also
give
you
a
breakdown
of
how
many
unregistered
vacation
rentals
were
found
since
2017
and
really,
and
then
also
we
can
break
it
down
to
where
we
can
identify,
possibly.
M
Based
on
bedroom
count
citation
counts
by
that
so,
for
example,
a
state
home,
so
we
can
show
data
on
estate
homes
compared
to
four
bedrooms
or
less
so,
and
with
that
those
are
the
data
sources
that
we
have.
That
we
think
is
beneficial
that
we
can
provide
to
hopefully
start
and
continue
discussion
in
future
study
sessions,
like
I
said,
I'm
open
to
any
questions
and
any
additional
feedback
that
I
might
be
able
to
bring
to
you,
and
thank
you
for
for
your
time
this
evening.
A
Thank
you,
questions
comments
from
council,
councilmember,
coors.
F
Great
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
all
of
that,
patrick
maybe
for
the
city
manager.
So
is
this
all
data
that
we're
going
to
get
or
do
you
want
us
to
go
through
each
of
these
and
pick
the
things
we
want
just
how
we're
going
to
move
through
this
and
then
I
have
some
other
things
that
aren't
on
this
so
yeah.
The
team.
G
F
Great
because
all
this
is
great-
and
I
just
don't
want
to
give
you
a
ton
of
work,
but
you
already
have
all
this-
that's,
I
think
all
of
it's
really
helpful
for
us
and
for
the
public
as
well.
So
one
thing,
I'm
just
gonna,
try
and
read
my
really
bad
handwriting.
As
you
look
at
contract
summaries,
is
it
possible
to
sort
of
get
a
sense
of
percentages
that
are
you
you
know,
because
it
could
be
27
days?
It
could
be
two
days
right.
F
The
rental
like
how
many
days
these
homes
are
being
used
by
not
the
you
know,
owner
right
that
are
being
used
as
vacation
rental,
because,
right,
if
it's
36
is
it,
you
know
can't
be
36
two
weeks,
that's
more
than
there
are
so,
but
given
this
as
an
ancillary
secondary
use,
it
would
be
good
to
know
if
houses
are
being
used
primarily
for
vacation
rentals
and
how
many
that
might
be.
F
F
I
believe
so
I
think
we
were,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
if
you're
really
interesting
to
sort
of
get
the
percentage
of.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
available
in
the
census,
but
of
renters.
We
had
then
versus
now
and
prefer
and
single
family
home
renters.
If
we
had
that
then
versus
now,
because
that
would
just
give
us
a
sense
also
how
many
vacation
rentals
we
had
then
versus
now,
so
we're
really
seeing
what
the
change
is
over
the
decade.
F
Because
one
of
my
concerns
and
it's
one
mayor
pro
tem-
has
brought
up
many
times
as
well.
Is
there
people
and
we
got
emails
on
this
people?
Who's
lived
in
the
home
were
raising
kids
there
and
it
was
bought
by
someone
and
now
it's
a
vacation
turned
into
a
vacation
rental
and
they
lost
their
home
right,
which
they
were
renting,
and
that
might
be
something
we
want
to
look
at
from
a
policy
perspective.
So
it'd
be
good
to
know
if
that's
happening
a
bunch
or
it's
just
one
offs.
F
I
think,
as
you
did,
complaints
citations
you
know
per
neighborhood
is
really
helpful
because,
based
on
neighborhood,
we'll
have
a
sense
of
density
right
and
we're
having
a
lot
more
complaints
when
the
houses
are
smaller
and
close
together
versus
in
neighborhoods,
where
they're
more
spread
out
right,
or
is
that
not
an
issue?
That
would
be
really,
I
think
helpful
information.
F
One
thing
would
be
really
helpful.
Is
you
know
we
talk
about?
I
think
it's.
Six
percent
of
our
housing
has
a
vacation
rental
permit
and
you'll
have
the
data
for
how
many
people
are
just
doing
it
a
few
times.
He'll
pay
the
mortgage
versus
a
lot,
but
it
really
would
be
helpful
to
look
at
it
based
on
single-family
homes,
condos
and
apartments,
since
we've
banned
it
in
apartments
in
2016.
F
But
right
is
it
ten
percent
of
single
family
homes,
or
is
it
six
percent
right
like
because
a
lot
of
our
housing
stock,
a
lot
of
condos,
don't
allow
vacation,
rentals
and
apartments
they're
not
allowed
at
all,
so
to
get
a
better
sense
of
the
percentage
of
our
available
housing
for
vacation
rentals,
that's
being
used
for
vacation
rentals?
If
that
makes
sense
only
I
think
I
would
note
right
how
many
have
been
suspended,
banned
sort
of.
I
think
you
might
be
on
your
list,
but
also
when
we
look
at
a
map.
F
Can
we
get
one
to
scale.
You
know
if
we
put
pinprints,
you
know
where
you
know
the
little
thing
you
put
the
pushpin
is
bigger
than
the
house.
F
It
doesn't
really
show
it
right
and
it'll
be
different
in
neighborhoods
where
the
denser
housing,
but
I
don't
know
how
we're
doing
if
we
can
find
a
pin,
that's
the
right
size.
Maybe
it's
just
a
straight
pin
or
something,
but
you
know
that
yeah,
that's
the
city,
so
it
would
look
very
different
if
it
was
to
scale-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
can
do
it
to
scale,
but
it
it
does
throw
off.
F
When
you
look
at
it
right
when
it's
not
to
scale-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
possible
and
that's
maybe
more
a
question
for
the
city
manager
with
our
you
know,
with
staff,
to
see
how
we
can
maybe
look
at
that
best.
G
Yeah,
I
think
we
recognize
the
the
challenge
and
disproportionately
visualizing
density.
So
if
nothing
else,
we
can
take
a
zoomed
in
view,
so
you
might
see
one
picture,
that's
somewhat
distorted,
but
then
one
more
to
scale
so
that
you
have
the
relative
comparison.
We
can
work
on
something
to
put
that
in
more
accurate
perspective,
yeah.
F
And
I
think
the
only
other
thing
I'll
say
is
relevant,
which
we
we
get
but
might
be
good
for
the
public
is
sort
of
the
history
of
t.o.t
that
comes
from
vacation
rentals.
I
just
think
you
know.
Some
of
the
folks
I
spoke
to
you
know
feel
that
you
know
vacation
rentals
are
money
for
us
because
we're
on
city
council,
as
opposed
to
what
it
goes
for
right,
public
safety
and
roads
and
other
things,
and
so
just
so.
People
have
that
number
right,
I
think,
is
important.
F
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
councilmember
coors.
For
all
of
that,
I
agree
with
everything
he's
listed.
I
do
appreciate
that
distinction
between
homestays
versus
vacation
rentals
for
all
of
the
data,
I
think
that's
really
helpful,
to
know
and
and
and
going
off
of
the
homes
that
use
that
are
now
vacation
rentals
that
used
to
be
long-term
rentals
if
it's
possible
to
know
how
that's
changed
over
time.
K
I
think
you
mentioned
this,
but
I'm
just
curious,
for
instance,
in
this
last
year
and
a
half
where
we've
seen
a
lot
of
changes
in
housing
here,
how
many
you
know
rental
properties
became
vacation
rentals.
K
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
to
see
to
how
vacation
rentals
have
expanded
across
the
city.
I
think,
for
instance,
there
were
not
as
many
vacation
rentals
in
the
northern
part
of
our
city
even
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
they're
starting
to
pop
up
more.
It
would
be
helpful
to
see
where
kind
of
where
they
started
and
where
they,
where
they
are
now,
because
I
I
think
that's
been
surprising
for
some
people
to
see
all
of
the
new
locations.
There
are
vacation
rentals
that
they're
getting
used
to
be.
A
Okay,
I
support
all
of
that
and
very
pleased
to
to
see
the
breadth
of
the
information
that
you're
already
collecting.
And
earlier
this
week
I
had
an
opportunity
to
give
the
city
manager
a
list
of
some
very
specific
items
that
I
would
like
to
see
and
frankly,
for
the
most
part,
I
think
they're
all
incorporated
into
the
data
that
you
have
here,
but,
most
importantly,
that
data
is
oriented
around
neighborhoods
so
that
we
can
actually
understand
it
in
terms
of
specific
neighborhoods
and
where
the
growth
is
an
area
beyond
the
ones
that
you've
talked
about.
A
A
And
this
really
goes
beyond
the
vacation.
Rental
issue
is
that
we've
built
a
number
of
homes
in
palm
springs
over
the
last
decade,
yet
our
census
changed
hardly
at
all
a
increase
of
230
something
new
individuals,
so
are
the
new
homes
that
we
built
are
building
going
disproportionately
to
second
homes
or
into
vacation
rental
markets.
I'd
like
like
to
get
a
sense
of
what
that
is.
A
And
this
is
going
to
become
a
new
theme
of
mine
as
we
become
increasingly
tech
oriented
those
of
us
in
my
generation
and
older
who
are
not
tech,
savvy
haven't
the
foggiest
idea.
What
you're
talking
about
and
couldn't
read
the
map
to
save
our
lives,
so
you're
gonna
have
to
print
the
maps
and
you're
gonna
have
to
make
them
big.
A
Otherwise,
you
know
how
to
hide
it
from
me.
Just
put
it
under
google
map.
A
The
last
one
may
be
a
little
bit
harder
for
us
to
to
get
into,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
some
sense
of
understanding
of
where
vacation
rentals
are
in
terms
of
affordability
in
our
community
are?
Is
the
growth
actually
taking
place
at
the
luxury
level?
A
Is
it
taking
place
at
what
used
to
be
considered,
moderate
or
medium-priced
homes,
and
don't
feel
that
way
anymore
for
an
awful
lot
of
folks
in
palm
springs
or
has
the
growth
as
the
mayor
pro
tem
has
talked
about
extended
to
where
markets
that
had
never
been
associated
with
vacation?
Rentals
are
now
seeing
growth.
A
And
I
know,
we've
also
gotten
some
comments
that
have
come
in
from
a
few
folks
in
the
community
and
just
glancing
at
the
ones
that
I
have
seen.
There's
some
really
thoughtful
public
comments
that
would
come
have
come
in
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
to
take
a
look
at
those
as
you
accumulate
the
data
and
we're
going
to
be
drowning
in
data.
But
that's
that's
probably
a
good
thing.
A
Do
we,
this
is
identified
as
being
an
item
that
would
have
a
motion
and
a
second,
but
it
seems
to
me
we
were
just
giving
direction.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
city
manager
city
attorney:
do
we
need
to
to
vote
on
this,
or
do
you
have
the
direction
you
need.
A
Okay
and
more
so
probably
all
right.
Do
we
want
to
take
a
10
minute
break
before
we
get
into
the
general
plan?
I
think
that's
a
yes.
We
will
it's
8
10.
We
will
take
a
break
until
8
20..
Thank
you.
F
F
A
N
It's
the
common
ground
from
which
we
make
decisions,
and
it
is
where
we
define
priority
areas
where
resources
should
be
focused
and
again
it's
meant
to
be
aspirational.
It's
meant
to
be
broad,
it's
one.
It's
meant
to
be
general,
because
it's
kind
of
the
overall
theme
that
the
community
values
should
be
reflected
in
priority
statements
are
the
values
and
themes
that
require
more
focused
attention
and
provide
future
direction
to
where
we
want
to
be
in
the
next
15
to
20
years.
N
N
We
have
our
goals
and
policies
as
well
as
actions
within
the
different
chapters
of
the
general
plan
or
elements,
and
those
are
more
obviously
specific
and
so
important
to
note
that
vision
and
priority
statements
are
not
regulations,
so
we
have,
you
know
throughout
this
process,
heard
a
lot
of
what
the
community
would
like
to
see
in
terms
of
a
variety
of
themes
in
the
city
relative
to
affordable
housing,
promoting
business,
promoting
events,
promoting
preservation
of
open
space
and
those
are
all
important
and
obviously
relevant
for
the
vision
and
priority
statements.
N
But
in
terms
of
how
we
execute
those
statements,
it's
not
as
specific
as
what
you
would
see
in
those
segments
is
in
our
goals
and
policies
which
are
within
each
chapter
of
the
general
plan.
So
again,
the
vision
and
project
statements
are
more
broad
in
general,
not
regulatory
ordinances.
N
N
We've
had
steering
committee
input
in
mid-2020
and
then
planning
commission
and
council
review
of
the
first
round
of
updates
to
the
vision
and
priority
statements
and,
as
you
recall,
back
in
october
of
2020,
you
directed
that
staff
should
continue
the
outreach
effort
for
the
vision
and
priority
statements,
because
this
is
impacting
the
entire
general
plan.
Even
though
we
are
doing
a
limited
update
as
a
part
of
this
effort
for
the
the
current
program.
N
So
we
continued
the
outreach
after
october
of
2020
and
we
held,
we
went
and
did
several
targeted
outreach
meetings
at
different
organizations
groups
in
neighborhoods,
and
you
know.
Obviously
we
heard
a
lot
of
good
feedback
and
a
lot
of
good
input
from
all
of
the
organizations
and
all
of
the
different
groups
and
residents
that
came
out
and
provided
important
information
for
this
vision
and
priority
statements.
N
So
this
is
the
first
thing
that
you
know
as
far
as
the
staff
presentation
I'd
like
to
maybe
hear
if
the
council
is
generally
in
support
of
the
vision
statement
or
if
we
want
to
make
changes
and
then
from
there,
we
can
dive
into
the
different
priority
statements
and
go
through
each
of
those.
If,
if
the
council
so
desires,.
F
Thank
you
so,
on
the
vision
statement,
just
a
common
question,
I
have
a
couple
one
is:
do
you
want
to
say
where
a
desert
resort
community
as
opposed
to
a
vibrant
city
right?
F
Not
all
of
the
community
is
a
resort
community
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
seems
to
narrow
it,
because
as
we
talk
about
trying
to
diversify
our
economy
and
other
things
in
this,
I
was
just
wondering
if
we're
limiting
ourselves
when
we
that's
part
of
who
we
are,
but
it's
not
all
of
who
we
are
so
that
was
one
one
comment.
I
had
another
comments
when
you
talked
in
the
first
one
in
the
first
paragraph
was
diverse
commercial
arts,
cultural
opportunities.
I
probably
add
entertainment.
F
If
we're
gonna
have
a
list
and
spell
some
things
out.
I
think
in
the
second
one
where
we
say
we
balance
resident
priorities
with
economic
and
sustainable
growth.
I
like
balancing
things.
I
also
the
first
time
I
read
it.
F
I
said
as
if
those
don't
go
together
automatically
like
it's
this
versus
this,
and
maybe
that's
just
was
my
reading
of
it,
but
considers
maybe
and
then
what
was
missing
for
me
here,
given
sort
of
the
two,
the
things
you
see
through
a
lot
of
this
and
from
our
other
study
sessions
on
priorities
for
the
city,
the
council
has
done
two
things
that
permeate
everything:
right
are
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
the
environment,
protecting
our
our
environment,
and
so
I
think,
we're
missing
the
environment
one
here
right
I
mean
we
have
like
three.
F
Maybe
things
on
open
space
in
the
specifics
that
we
can
get
to
later,
if
that
should
be
sort
of
more
coalesced
into
one,
but
and
maybe
it's
we
value
our
architectural
historical
cultural.
I
mean
natural
research
is
the
only
thing,
but
nothing
about
prioritizing
sustainability
and
protecting
our
environment
and
just
adding
that
somewhere
in
here,
and
maybe
to
that
paragraph,
given
that
such
a
high
priority
for
our
city.
A
Well,
let
me
add
a
couple
david
in
it's
a
bit
in
a
hectic
order.
We've
got
some
references
here
when
it
comes
to
cycling
and
pedestrian.
A
I'd
like
to
see
us
to
take
an
emphasis
on
creating
a
network
of
type
1
separated
lanes
for
cycling,
north
south
east
west
and
the
the
use
of
sharrows
has
been
very
important
within
the
for
cyclists,
but
they're,
not
nearly
as
safe
as
when
we
can
take
and
make
a
physical
separation
and,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
do
so.
I
think
we
should,
when
it
comes
to
pedestrian
safety.
A
We
have-
and
I
want
to
be
really
careful-
as
I
say
this-
a
very,
very
long
history
and
a
successful
history
of
being
a
community.
That
residents
are
here
part-time
during
the
course
of
the
year,
and
I
don't
think
that's
ever
going
to
change
or
perhaps
should.
A
And
a
last
area
of
balancing
is
open.
Space
is
incredibly
important.
We
have
dedicated
tremendous
amount
of
energy
to
that.
We
also
need
to
make
sure
that
we
preserve
sufficient,
affordable
fee
land
for
individuals
to
build
housing
across
the
economic
spectrum,
most
particularly
multi-family
housing
at
affordable
rates
and
last
comment.
It's
one
that
picked
up
from
some
of
our
local
business
folks
and
I
think
it
bears
importance
we're
seeing
the.
A
F
Oh
just
as
we
go
through
this,
I
mean
we
division.
Does
it
make
sense
to
take
each
priority
one
at
a
time
to
give
you
input,
so
we're
all
giving
input
on
that
or
how
what's
easiest
for
you?
F
N
Some
of
them
might
be
more
relevant
for
like
a
goal
or
a
policy,
and
maybe
an
action
item
that
you
know
if
we've
got
you
know
we
say
we
want
complete
streets,
for
you
know
with
proper
safety.
N
You
know
as
a
kind
of
a
general
broad
priority
and
then,
as
we
talk
about
the
specifics
of
how
we
get
there,
that
could
be
incorporated
into
our
like
our
circulation
element
where
we
talk
about
having
adequate
pedestrian,
sidewalks
protected
bike
lanes
and
then,
furthermore,
when
we
get
into
the
actions
to
create
a
master
bike
plan
that
has
these
elements
that
we're
kind
of
looking
at.
You
know
the
broadly,
how
we're
looking
at
things
broadly
in
our
vision
and
priorities
and
then
getting
all
the
way
down
to
the
action
level.
N
But
but
I
do
have
all
the
notes.
So
we
can
certainly
address
each
of
these
as
we
as
we
get
into
the
different
priorities.
But
I.
I
And
if
I
can
get
metamere,
I
would
echo
council
member
course
comments.
So
I
don't
need
to
repeat
those.
I
just
don't
know
what
a
positive
experience
is.
I
think
that's
a
very
vague
thing,
especially
with
hiv,
aids
and
whatnot.
I
think
I
just
I
don't
like
that
term.
I
just
don't
know
what
that
means,
and
I
really
don't
know-
and
I
and
I
agree
with
councilman
of
course-
and
I
want
to
repeat-
I
said
I
wouldn't
but
balance
resident
priorities
and
economic.
That's
a
that's
a
clunky
sentence.
I
It's
a
very
clunky
sentence.
You
know,
if
you
put
a
period
before
that,
it's
great
the
city
values
its
architecture,
historical,
cultural
and
natural
resources
period.
That's
great,
but
I
don't
know
what
balances
means
and
or
what
resonant
priorities
means
there's
just
no
meaning
behind
it,
but
we
just
need
to
rework
that.
But
that's
my
only
comment
on
that.
First
page.
F
Okay,
go
ahead,
one
more
on
this.
I
actually
had
that
similar
reaction
on
positive.
So
it's
interesting
generational,
but
also
as
I
reread
that
right,
not
everyone's
coming
here
to
relax
right.
Sometimes
people
are
coming
here
to
play
to
do
sports
or
to
you
know,
go
to
events
right.
So
it's
not
just
a
relaxing
experience.
Right.
People
come
here
for
a
variety
of
experiences
right
all
the
culture
museum
festivals.
F
You
know
you
know
sort
of
like
visitors
enjoy.
You
know,
have
a
wonderful
experience.
I
mean
you
know
it's
sort
of
this
is
aspirational.
2041
everyone
come
here,
never
really
enjoy
themselves
right.
This
is
the
one
about
our
tourism
right.
I
mean
it's
a
little
broader
than
that,
but
you
know
we
want
all.
We
want
our
residents
and
our
visitors
to
have
a
you
know
great
time,
and
they
want
to
come
back.
A
David,
you
want
to
walk
us
through
a
couple
of
areas
where
you
could
use
our
insight.
N
So
yeah,
so
if
we,
if
we're
finished
with
the
vision,
I
think
we
we
can
make
some
adjustments
there.
Based
on
what
we've
heard
tonight,
we
can
jump
into
priority
number
one
where
we
talk
about
palm
springs
as
a
premier
desert
resort
community,
so
whoops
go
back
and
just
before
I
get
into
all
the
specifics
on
the
priorities.
The
planning
commission
did
review
this
last
night
and
they
did
give
us
some
additional
feedback.
N
So
I
do
have
a
couple
of
changes
that
are
not
in
your
report.
Based
on
the
comments
we
heard
from
the
planning
commission
last
night
and
I'll
get
into
those
in
the
presentation,
but
priority
number
one
is,
as
you
have
it
in
your
staff
report:
it's
really
a
minor
change
from
what
you
saw
back
in
2020,
incorporating
cultural
diversity
and
identity
as
a
part
of
this
priority.
A
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
would
identify
the
priority
areas
where
we
want
to
have
further
discussion.
F
Yeah
so
one
question
on
this
one
I
mean
we
heard
public
comment
and
a
little
bit
at
the
hospitality
association
that
some
of
those
comments,
weren't
incorporated
some
seemed
to
be
so
I
just
wanted.
If
you
could
comment
on
that,
I
don't
have
any
specific
changes
to
this
one
other
than
you
know,
sort
of
asking
asking
about
that
issue.
N
N
It's
not
specific
to
certain
areas
where
some
of
the
comments
we
have
seen,
because
you
know,
ideally,
we
can
incorporate
as
much
as
we
can,
but
we
don't
want
to
make
specific
things
that
we
could
really
address
as
a
part
of
our
goals
and
policies.
So
I
think
we
have
captured
a
lot
of
what
we've
heard
in
these
priorities,
but
again
as
we
get
into
the
meat
of
it
with
the
goals
and
policies,
I
think
that's
where
we'll
be
able
to
address
some
of
these
comments
that
we've
heard
too
that's.
N
So
this
is
a
a
new
priority
that
we've
added
from
added
in
2020,
but
we've
also,
as
you
can
see
here,
added
to
that
priority-
and
this
is
relative
to
the
open
space,
protection
and
improvement,
improving
access
to
open
spaces
in
the
city.
So
this
this
is,
you
know
we
we
did
outreach,
and
we
did
hear
that
you
know
we
could
have
additional
language
in
here
about
our
open
spaces
and
providing
access
to
those
spaces
where,
where
they
should
be
accessed
and
preserving
other
areas
where
they
they
should
be
preserved
in
their
natural
state.
F
N
F
I
just
so
10
really
has
ties
into
open
space
and
we
can
get
to
it
then,
but
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
don't
want
one,
that's
sort
of
open
space
specific.
Instead
of
two
that
are
separate,
I
mean
it's
about
physical
right,
enhanced
physical,
visual,
physical
and
equitable
access
to
the
city
surrounding
mountains,
washes
open
space
and
other
scenic
natural
resources,
etc.
F
So
I
just
don't
know
if
we
should
combine
and
have
one
that's
open
space
specific,
and
I
have
some
comments
on
on
that
part
when
we
get
to
it,
but
just
for
organization
purposes.
We
only
have
ten
having
two
and
several
others
mention
open
space,
which
is
fine,
but
it
seems
like
it's
open
space
heavy
given
this
is
supposed
to
be
cover
each
of
various
subjects.
Maybe.
G
If
that
makes
sense,
I
might
also
add
that
in
when,
when
we
find
tension
between
priorities,
you
may
also
consider
kind
of
compound
priority
statements
that
recognize,
or
even
attempt
to
start
to
reconcile
that
tension.
So,
for
instance,
we
have
priorities
on
housing
and
we
have
priorities
on
open
space.
Generally,
those
things
are
in
tension
with
one
another
writing
them
separately.
Without
acknowledging
that
tension
sometimes
just
leaves
us.
G
K
I
appreciate
that,
and
I
I
also
would
like
this
document
to
be
something
that
people
is
accessible
to
people
they
feel
like
they
they'll
sit
down
and
actually
read
through
the
whole
thing,
and
it
is
kind
of
lengthy
right
now
so
to
be
able
to
kind
of
combine
things.
A
bit
that
makes
sense,
instead
of
being
unnecessarily
repetitive,
would
be
helpful.
N
Yeah,
I
think,
as
as
number
this
new
priority
has
kind
of
been
enhanced
over
time.
Now,
as
as
you
read
number
10,
it
certainly
does
sound
to
speak
to
similar
priorities.
So
you
know
that
could
be
something
we
can
consolidate.
A
And
I
think
the
city
manager's
comment
regarding
acknowledging
the
very
specifically
the
tension
that
exists
between
providing
adequate
opportunities
for
housing
and
open
space
needs
to
be
acknowledged,
and
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
is
an
appropriate
balance.
F
I
agree,
and
I
think
it
also
fits
in
with
balancing
economic
development
right.
If
I
mean
we
supported,
you
know
allowing
fulfillment
centers,
but
arguably
that
could
be
open
space,
so
we
have
to
be
clear.
We
we
want
a
balance
of
these
things,
based
on
what
makes
the
most
sense
in
which
location
right.
We
want
to
give
flexibility
over
the
next
20
years
that
this
general
plan
is
meant
to
be
that
we
want
a
smart
balance
of
it
right.
We
need
all
those
things
in
our
city,
we
know
we
need
better
jobs.
A
I
I
I
don't
like
the
word
balancing
it's
way
too
vague
and
the
whole
purpose
of
this
document
is
to
say
what
the
balance
is
right.
Do
we
want
open
space?
Do
we
want
track
homes?
You
know,
and
I
think
that's
what
this
document
is
supposed
to
really
say
is
what
are
the
community
priorities
on
that?
So
I
I
balancing
leaves
it
up
to
total
interpretation
and
anyone's
whim
at
the
time,
and
I
think
we
really
want
to.
I
I
If,
if
we
want
tract
housing,
we
say
we
want
tract
housing,
but
I
I
think
we
need.
We
can't
be
so
ambiguous
in
something
like
a
general
plan,
but
I
do
want
to
pick
up
on
the
mayor's
point.
One
thing
that
makes
us
really
really
unique
here
is:
we
have
a
downtown,
you
know,
there's
very,
not
every
city
in
coachella
valley
has
a
downtown,
and
you
know
it's.
I
That
makes
us
different
and
even
though
we're
moving
to
fulfillment
centers
and
things
of
that
nature,
people
like
to
promenade
they
like
to
be
out
and
be
seen
they
like
to
touch
the
merchandise
and
it
may
not
be
offered
in
every
city
in
the
world,
so
they
leave
the
brick
and
mortar
of
a
big
city
or
whatever
and
come
here
and
have
a
different
experience
and
we've
said
in
in
these
goals
are
in
these
policies.
Is
the
priorities
is
that
we
want
it
to
be
safe
for
them
to
do
that?
I
So
I
think
that's
really
the
vision
of
what
I
see
us
doing
and
I
do
see
us
continuing
to
promote
all
of
the
great
things
that
we
have,
including
adding
affordable
housing,
including
adding
or
continuing
our
our
work
on
open
space.
Hiking
is
a
great
thing
here.
You
know,
building
upon
that
and
then
just
seeing
where
we
want
to
go
next.
A
I
Sustainable
leader-
and
I
and
I
agree
with
everything,
because
it
talks
about
change
and
all
that
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
word:
affordable
use
of
materials-
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
that
means,
and
I'm
not
sure
why
we
have
it
there.
I
You
know
we
change
is
not
always
affordable
outright,
but
it's
adaptive
as
we
go
through
it.
So
I'm
curious,
why
that's
in
there
and
what
we're
going
to
do
with
it?
I
It
says
basically
for
the
public,
it
says
continue
to
advance
palm
springs
as
a
sustainable
leader,
promote
the
sustainable
and
affordable
use
of
materials,
energy,
land,
water,
air
and
other
natural
resources
to
sustain
long-term
livability
etc.
Well,
you
know
if
water
becomes
rare,
it
may
not
be
affordable
at
that
point.
So
I
I
just
don't
know
what
that
term
might
mean,
and
I
I
would
take
it
out.
I
guess,
as
my
recommendation
would
be.
K
Okay,
okay
jump
on
that.
I
I
think
the
idea
here
was
because,
when
you
keep
reading,
it
says
for
all
residents,
regardless
of
socioeconomic
position.
So
I
think
that
the
key
for
me
in
this
is
that
we're
making
sure
that
sustainability
isn't
only
for
those
that
can
actually
afford
it,
that
the
city
is
actually
taking
a
lead
and
providing
this
type
of
sustainability
efforts
for
all
residents
so
which
would
include
you
know,
providing
subsidies
or
things
like
that
for
for
people
who
need
them.
F
That
makes
sense,
which
I
think
is
is
captured
by
the
second
one
right,
yeah
well
and
affordable
is
confusing,
because
if
it
isn't,
I
agree
we're
going
to
want
to
make.
We
want
to
make
it
work
for
everyone.
I
think
that
second
piece
is
really
important
on
that.
So
just
one
question
on
this:
this
one
is
we
talk
about
reducing
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
This
is
our
2040
goals.
F
We
said
we
want
to
be
carbon
neutral
in
2030.
Just
not
sure,
that's
the
right
way
to
say
it
there.
So
just
some
thought
into
into
that
and
maximize
the
use
of
our
abundant
natural
energy
resources
should
be
in
here
right,
because
that
will
impact
our
planning
right.
I
mean
you
know
the
windmills
were
opposed
years
ago
and
then
we're
allowed.
So
I
think
for
planning
purposes.
We
want
right.
We
want
more
solar,
we
want
more
renewables
and
we're
in
such
a
great
place
for
it.
So
something
about
you
know
encouraging
maximizing.
N
So
yeah
we
can
add
that
phrase
or
that
sentence
within
that
priority
and
then
you'll
note
on
the
screen
here.
This
is
one
that
we
had
the
planning
or
we
had
comment
from
the
planning
commission
last
night.
N
N
So
what
we
heard
from
the
planning
commission
last
night
was
that
we
could
break
this
one
up
into
two
different
priorities
so
that
we
focus
one
on
diversifying
and
strengthening
our
economy
and
promoting
innovation
and
then
separately
improve
higher
education
opportunities
for
residents
in
the
city
and
surrounding
areas.
N
So
to
really
show
that
that
the
city
is
interested
in
and
prioritizing
higher
education
as
a
as
a
matter
moving
forward.
So
I
can
show
that
new
priority
here.
So,
with
the
recommendations
from
planning
commission
you
can
see,
we
took
out
the
words,
promote
education
and
we'll
take
that
make
it
a
separate
priority.
N
And
some
modifications
to
the
text
there
and
then
the
new
priority
that
we
heard
you
see
here
on
the
screen
improve
higher
education
opportunities
for
residents
in
palm
springs
and
surrounding
areas,
and
then
we
promote
and
seek
local
higher
education
options
within
the
city
to
improve
the
workforce
and
provide
living
wage
opportunities
and
invest
in
improving
accessible
public
and
private
infrastructure
for
a
digital
future.
For
all.
I
You
know,
as
we
drill
down
in
the
general
plan,
this
is
the
umbrella
right,
as
we
drill
down.
Excuse
me
on
this.
You
know
we
are
currently
you
know,
working
with
the
college
of
the
desert
to
try
and
entice
a
facility
or
in
here
in
palm
springs,
but
besides
that
the
city
itself
really
doesn't
do
a
whole
lot
with
education.
I
D
K
I
I
agree.
I
also
think
that
part
of
the
way
that
we
improve
higher
education
opportunities
and
just
education
opportunities
in
general
is
by
making
sure
our
city
is
affordable,
so
that
people
can
access
our
schools
and
that
they
can
live
here.
K
So
I
think
that
mentioning
education
within
these
priorities
is
important,
but
I
don't
think
that
we
need
its
own
thing,
because
we
we
don't
have
a
ton
to
do
with
creating
these
opportunities,
specifically
as
a
city,
we
we
support
them,
but
yeah
this.
This
just
seems
like
a
stretch
and
a
little
bit
confusing
I'd
rather
incorporate
education
throughout
the
other
parts
that
we
have
here.
N
L
F
And
just
one
question
the
last
one
which
I
think
is
great
but
seems
very
specific,
promote
employment
opportunities
and
renewable
energy
and
other
green
businesses.
We
want
to
promote
employment
opportunities,
we
don't
know
what
they
may
be
in.
The
future
are
diverse
employment
opportunities
and
if
you
want
to
use
that
as
an
example
great,
it's
a
great
one
that
we
know
will
still
be
here,
but
we
don't
know
it's
going
to
be
here
in
10
years
right.
F
So
it
feels
I
just
worry
when
we
list
something
specific
or
it
gives
the
impression
we're
limiting
it
as
opposed
to
being
expansive
right,
which
we
need
in
economic.
So
I
don't
know
the
best
way
to
do
it,
but
it
was
just
my
my
only
comment
on
that.
F
Okay,
my
one
comment
on
that
is
sort
of
I
think
councilmember
woods
made,
and
I
think
mayor
mitt
already
is
right.
What
makes
us
unique
is
locally
owned
and
unique
businesses
right
and
so
to
make
sure
we
include
this
seems
to
be
the
one
the
place
to
include
it.
I
think
that's
all,
but
I
agree
with
both
of
them
on
that.
N
This
one
was
expanded
on
relative
to
being
more
inclusive,
as,
as
you
see
here,
for
all
residents,
housing
opportunities,
broad
range
of
housing,
opportunities
for
all
residents,
not
just
any
type
of
housing,
but
high
quality
housing.
So
we
aspire
to
have
high
quality
housing
in
the
city
and
we're
catering
to
all
economic
levels
and
diversified
multifaceted
populations,
and
we
identify
solutions
to
reduce
rent
burden,
housing,
instability
and
homelessness.
N
F
My
only
question
on
this,
so
community
facilities-
since
I
heard
from
someone
who
didn't
think
like
the
nonprofit
social
services
comments
were
incorporated,
but
I
think
that's
sort
of
what
you're
saying
here
right.
Community
facilities
aren't
necessarily
city-owned
facilities
right
right,
it's
broader
than
that.
So
just
for
folks
who
had
reached
out
on
that,
I
just
wanted
to
raise.
I
think,
that's
sort
of
what
that's
getting
to
right,
that
it's
important
for
us
to
have
those
community
facilities
that
provide
services,
correct,
yeah,.
N
N
So
you
see
here
on
number
seven.
This
is
relative
to
creating
encouraging
the
creative
mixing
of
land
uses
to
promote
vibrant
and
walkable
neighborhoods
and
commercial
areas
that
are
accessible
to
all
so
combining
a
residential
retail
office,
open
spaces,
recreation
and
other
land
uses
within
commercial
and
other
key
locations
to
create
active,
inclusive
and
full-service
neighborhoods
that
are
less
dependent
on
automobiles.
K
I
think
that
it's
needed
in
palm
springs,
and
I
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
what
mayor
middleton
just
said,
about
making
sure
that
we
do
have
some
neighborhoods
that
don't
have
businesses,
and
I
think
that.
But
I
do
think
that,
based
on
the
way
that
our
city
is
filled
out,
that
that's
going
to
happen
pretty
naturally
the
open
space
that
we
do
have.
K
F
One
quick
question
on
that:
sorry
is,
when
you
say,
open
space
and
sort
of
you're
combining
all
these
in
walkable,
neighborhoods
and
commercial
areas.
So
it's
open
space
and
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
in
a
lot
of
areas.
We're
not
gonna
be
able
to
do
that.
So
it's
just
it's
really
allowing
for
it
and
encouraging
creativity,
I
think
is,
is
is
the
focus
right.
F
So
so
it's
not
necessarily
combining
it
but
encouraging
it.
Maybe
because
combining
seems
very
much
we're
saying
combine
these
things
together
everywhere,
which
I
don't
think
is
what
we're
saying
we're
trying
to
say.
The
combine
is
seems
like
a
more
specific
than
encourage,
allow
it
needs
a
different
verb.
I
think.
N
I
think,
with
priority
number
seven,
what
we
were
trying
to
speak
to
was
relative
to
as
mayor
pro
tem
mentioned.
We
have
a
variety
of
different
land
uses
in
the
city
and
we
we
certainly
are
have
a
lot
of
single
single-family
neighborhoods.
We
also
have
a
unique
downtown
that
has
a
combination
of
office
and
retail
or
residential
and
retail,
and
you
know
with
the
new
downtown
plan.
We
have
open
space
now
within
that
plan,
so
it
you
know,
can
we
find
ways
to
creatively.
N
F
Right
and
courage
is
good
because
that's
how
it
starts
like
the
main
heading-
and
I
appreciate
your
point
on
the
housing,
because
that
seems
to
fit
with
the
next
one
right
also
like
we're
saying
similar
things
in
a
couple
places,
and
maybe
we
could
combine
to
make
this.
I
think
your
point,
the
ones
that
are
shorter,
I
think,
are
the
ones
that
we
people
will
get
through
this.
N
The
new
priority
that
we
have
here
number
two:
this
is
relative
to
some
of
what
we've
heard
in
the
our
community
meetings.
Providing
really
the
the
daily
needs
of
of
residents
to
you
know,
go
to
the
bank
to
go
to
the
pharmacy
to
get
groceries.
N
So
that's
kind
of
why
this
priority
was
added
as
a
part
of
the
the
priorities.
I
I'm
sorry
the
priority
number
two
that
you're
talking
about
is
basically
the
same
as
priority
number
four
on
the
previous
page,
I
mean
they're,
almost
identical.
I
I
don't
see
why
we
have
two
of
them
and
I
think
they
should
be
combined
the
same
thing,
because
this
is
very
general
in
its
nature.
At
this
point-
and
you
know
we're
not
drilling
down,
but
it
just
doesn't
seem
to
have
a
separate
one
just
for
retail
and
neighborhoods.
You
know
this
one
says:
retail,
entertainment
and
dining
in
in
neighborhoods,
so
it
just
seems
redundant.
K
I
I
would
hope
that
the
one
before
that
which
is
it
you
know,
encouraging
creative
land
uses,
would
be
particularly
important
to
district
one,
where
we
have
this
huge
thing
called
miralon,
with
no
retail
whatsoever,
no
grocery
stores
whatsoever.
And
then
we
have
this
huge
swath
of
land
north
of
desert
highlands.
F
N
Okay,
so
this
was
a
new
priority
based
on
some
of
the
feedback
we
heard
and
that
is
to
promote
active
living.
Healthy
lifestyles,
improved
environments
for
all
and
it's
to
improve
mental
and
physical
health
increase
opportunities
for
individuals
to
incorporate
physical
activities
into
daily
routines,
such
as
recreation
exercise
and
active
transportation,
promote
healthy
food
options
and
create
social
and
physical
environments
that
improve
the
well-being
of
the
community.
I
What
what
we're
getting
in
palm
springs
currently
is
we're
getting
orange
county
architects
I'll
just
be
right
out
there
in
bold,
like
I
am
producing
innocuous
architecture
and
we're
getting
this
left
and
right
in
this
city,
and
it's
not
who
we
are
and
we
have
an
opportunity
because
of
who
we
are
because
of
our
name,
recognition
to
get
better
architecture,
and
hopefully,
as
we
drill
down
in
something
like
this,
we
can
start
applying
it
more,
especially
with
our
new
model
of
where
we
have
a
planner
actually
talking
to
applicants
before
they
do
all
the
design
work
to
get
something.
I
I
I
It
was
still
much
more
unique
with
the
a
the
swiss
and
all
of
that
than
what
we're
currently
getting.
So
I
would
hope
that
this
will
help
us
get
to
a
point
of
our
history
of
better
architecture.
A
I
I
won't,
I
will
pick
up
and
I
hope
that
we
do,
but
the
great
architects
of
the
1950s
were
not
driven
by
an
aac
or
a
planning
commission
or
a
city
council.
They
were
great
architects
who
are
given
the
freedom
to
develop
and.
I
I
I
don't
know
what
adequate
parking
means
I
mean.
That
is,
I
think
I
would
strike
that
part.
You
know
everyone
has
a
different
definition
of
what
adequate
parking
means
and
the
world
is
changing
about
parking
and,
as
we
become
multimodal,
why
would
we
be
promoting
parking
and
what
does
adequate
mean?
I
am
so.
I
just
strike
that
it
just
it's
superfluous
words
to
me.
K
I
I
agree
with
striking
parking.
I
think
that
the
whole
point
of
a
lot
of
what
we've
written
in
here
is
that
we
are
wanting
to
move
away
from
our
dependence
on
cars,
but
I
also
do
think
that
that
this
could
be
a
tightened
up,
while
still
maintaining
our
goals
and
and
making
sure
that
we're
talking
about
safety
like
mayor
middleton
mentioned
it
is
a
bit
lengthy
and
I
think
it's
a
really
important
one,
and
I
don't
want
people
to
overlook
it
because
of
how
long
it
is
and
it's
a
little
redundant
in
parts.
A
We've
gotten
a
primer
on
creating
tension
in
in
what
we
say
so.
F
I
think
I
think
that
sort
of
goes
in
the
open
space
one
I
mean
we're
limited
on
what
we
can
do
and
access
to
things
outside
of
the
city
sort
of
like
the
college,
one
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
I
think
we
can
add
something
in
the
other
open
space,
one
which
I
think
is
more
palm
springs
focused.
A
From
a
process
standpoint
david,
you're
gonna
be
going
back
and
making
some
changes
based
on
all
of
the
input
that
you've
received
here
this
evening,
and
I'm
assuming
also
consulting
with
the
planning
commission
is
we
come
forward?
Is
that
correct.
N
So
this
so
based
on
what
we
heard
last
night,
the
count-
the
planning
commission
was
generally
good
with
the
parties,
as
you
see
them,
but
based
on
your
feedback
tonight,
we
can
regroup
and
make
some
revisions
and
then,
if
you'd
like
us
to
present
that
back
to
the
commission,
we
will
present
it
to
the
commission
and
bring
it
to
council
for
another
review.
A
All
right
david:
do
you
need
him?
Do
we
need
a
motion
on
this
or
have
we
provided
sufficient
direction
to
count
to
staff.
A
So
I
believe
we
have
come
to
the
point
in
the
agenda
where
we
entertain
public
comment
on
non-agenda
items.
Do
we
have
any
public
comment
on
non-agenda
items.
A
G
Yes,
if
I
could
have
pstv
put
up
the
tentative
upcoming
meeting
schedule
and
we'll
zoom
in
a
little
bit
on
the
next
few
meetings,
we
have
march
24th
a
regularly
scheduled
meeting.
It
says
three
hours
bear
in
mind
that
we
are
also
pending
scheduling,
a
significant
appeal
item
that
would
probably
take
an
additional
hour.
We
have
a
study
session
scheduled
for
march
29th
right
now,
we're
slated
to
present
data
on
the
short-term
vacation
rental
program
and
then
april
7th,
which
is
still
a
ways
out,
is
booked
up
to
three
hours.
G
Remember
we
shoot
for
around
four,
maybe
a
little
more
depending
on
when
we
anticipate
how
long
we
anticipate
items
to
take.
So
this
is
relatively
full,
but
certainly
if
council
has
items
you'd
like
to
see
come
in,
we
can
actually.
I
do
believe
that
there's
one
other
missing
and
that
would
be
a
follow-up
on
a
discussion
on
potentially
piloting
a
universal
universal
basic
income
program
that
councilmember
holstead
recommended
so
yeah.
I
don't
see
that
on
the
24.,
so
that
would
be
another
one
in
this
mix.
K
K
So
it
wouldn't
be
too
long
of
a
presentation
and
technically
I
think
it's
something
that
we
could
just
do
on
our
own,
but
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
opportunity
for
the
intern
to
be
able
to
present
on
it.
He's
worked
really
hard
on
it
and
just
to
give
it
elevated
a
little
bit
in
the
community
so
wherever
that
can
fit
in
any
of
these
march
april
meetings,
I
think,
would
be
fine
we're.
A
I
think
those
are
really
important
programs
when
we
can
develop
them
and
we
are
going
to
be
coming
up
on
the
summer
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
get
a
proposal
before
school
breaks
that
would
allow
us
to
incorporate
students
into
internships
over
the
summer.
Here,
that's
so
critical,
not
just
simply
for
providing
some
income
for
the
individuals,
but
the
experience.
K
So
that
is
something
that
johnny
the
my
intern
and
I
had
discussed
that
we
thought
would
be
the
next
step
after
these
lunchtime
talks,
so
we've
already
kind
of
laid
the
groundwork
and
did
some
research
on
that,
and
I
think
he
would
be
eager
to
work
on
that
to
bring
forward
it
within
this.
This
piece.
A
Well
then,
we
have
come
to
the
point
where
we
get
to
adjourn
the
meeting
and
in
almost
record
time
for
the
palm
springs
city
council.
We
are
adjourning
at
9
26
p.m.
The
next
regularly
scheduled
city
council
meeting
will
be
held
on
march
24th
2022
at
5
30
pm
council
will
be
back
in
chambers
and
I
don't
believe
we'll
quite
yet
be
ready
to
incorporate
the
public,
but
we
will
continue
to
work
towards
that
goal.
Thank
you.