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From YouTube: Planning Commission | Apr 27 2022
Description
City of Palm Springs Planning Commission meeting, held April 27th, 2022
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will
be
available
to
address
any
questions
you
may
have
related
to
the
agenda
item.
In
addition,
our
architects,
shah
bakiwi
and
amelia
mon
anon,
as
well
as
civil
engineers,
brad
eichenhauer
and
nicole
van,
are
available
tonight
as
well,
and
again
just
thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
your
service
to
the
city.
Thank
you.
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The
site
of
the
project
in
question
that
is
surrounded
on
three
streets
by
feral,
drive,
computer
way
and
research
drive
to
the
north
of
the
site
is
the
dmv
and
to
the
south
is
the
hop
purple
energy,
solar,
installer
to
the
west?
We
do
have
single-family
homes
and
vacant
land
and
to
the
east.
We
have
light
industrial
uses.
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do
have
the
25-foot
landscape
buffer
required
by
the
code,
and
there
is
a
100-foot
setback
requirement
along
farrell
drive
due
to
its
proximity
to
residential
to
the
west.
So
the
project
meets
this.
The
development
standards
in
the
m1
fee
zone
and
the
afternoon
has
provided
additional
renderings
of
the
proposed
project.
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Those
are
included
in
our
conditions
in
the
staff
report.
In
addition,
staff
believe
that
the
project
could
be
improved
based
on
the
findings
required
for
approving
this
development.
First,
that
the
applicant
installed
additional
planting
material
in
the
perimeter.
Planting
planting
bed
along
feral
drive
to
provide
additional
screening
of
any
rv
that
might
be
located
on
that
side
of
the
property
and
that
these
the
additional
planting
is
in
compliance.
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So,
in
terms
of
the
application
before
you
tonight,
as
I
mentioned,
this
is
a
major
development
permit
application
that
the
commission
will
be
considering
under
the
revised
entitlement
review
process
that
was
adopted
last
year.
This
is
the
first
step
of
review
that
is
required
and
then
the
second
step
would
be
a
rc
review
and
at
which
time
the
committee
could
provide
additional
or
the
arc
could
approve
the
project
based
on
any
direction
that
the
commission
may
have
relative
to
the
architecture
of
the
project.
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Landscaping,
solar
control,
landscaping
and,
as
I
mentioned
so,
those
are
items
that
arc
would
look
at,
but
in
terms
of
the
planning
commission's
purview
staff
has
provided
recommended
findings
for
approving
the
project.
As
shown
on
pages
six,
starting
on
pages.
Six
in
your
staff
report
relative
to
the
criteria
for
a
development
permit,
and
we
have
provided
a
draft
resolution
should
the
commission
wish
to
adopt
and
approve
the
project
this
evening.
So
with
that
I'll
conclude,
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
the
commission
may
have.
Thank
you.
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Farrell
has
a
you
know
the
s-curve
through
there
and
it's
a
little
treacherous
getting
out
onto
ferrell
from
computer
way
at
certain
times
of
the
day,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
monument
sign
isn't
creating
any
visibility
issues
with
traffic
exiting
onto
pharaoh.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
looked
at
carefully
and
specifically
because
my
fear
is
that
it
could
possibly
be
blocking
traffic
coming
southbound
on
feral.
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You
know
it's
hard
to
say
from
the
looking
at
the
plan,
but
I
was
out
there
today
and
even
without
blockage.
It's
the
traffic
is
roaring
down
feral
at
at
least
45
miles
an
hour,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
not
creating
a
a
traffic
nightmare
by
having
that
sign
too
close
to
the
right-of-way
line
on
feral.
So
just
a
a
request
to
take
a
careful
look
at
that.
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Some
questions
specific
to
the
findings
that
are
carrying
the
resolution
and
in
the
staff
report,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
our
findings
are
going
to
be
responsive
to
what
we
are
required
by
code
to
fund
in
order
to
approval
the
project
and
I'm
missing
some
of
the
information
that
I'm
looking
for
we'll
start
with
number
four.
We're
required
to
find
that
the
proposed
hyphen
massino
project
is
consistent
with
local
standards
and
compatible
with
the
adjacent
development.
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Okay,
all
right
and
then
on
number
eight,
and
this
is
really
got
what
kind
of
got
me
thinking
about.
It
was
looking
at
the
suggestions
that
have
been
made
to
improve
the
landscaping
for
screening
and
one
thing
or
another
and
number
eight.
The
finding
we're
asked
to
make
is
that
the
landscape
areas
and
open
space
are
in
conformance
with
applicable
standards,
and
the
design
of
the
stormwater
management
features
are
appropriately
integrated
with
other
elements
of
site
design.
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Here,
I'm
presuming
that
the
applicable
standards
are
dealing
with
things
like
the
wastewater
efficiency
ordinance,
the
standards
by
desert
water
agency
and
by
the
county
ag.
Commissioner,
are
there
other
standards
that
that
we
would
have
to
comport
with,
and
does
this
project
comply
with
those
standards.
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Yes,
so
the
you
are
correct,
the
applicable
criteria
that
we
would
evaluate
under
is,
we
would
evaluate
under
the
county
agricultural
commissioner,
or
they
would
evaluate
it
to
meet
their
standards
and
that's
a
condition
we
have
in
our
our
conditions.
But
in
terms
of
what
we
look
at
here
for
projects,
it's
chapter
8.60,
which
is
the
water
efficient
landscape
ordinance.
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I
That
will
come
out
later
during
the
plan
check
of
the
precise
grading
and
they
are
required
to
also
implement
water
quality
management
plan
and
to
treat
the
first
flush
off
of
everything
that
they're
generating.
I
don't
see
that
on
the
site
plan,
but
it
is
our
one
of
our
conditions
and
they
would
be
required
to
comply
with
that
prior
to
the
issuance
of
even
a
grading
plan.
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H
Okay,
so
on
this
one,
perhaps
we
could
say
that
components
with
the
standards
established
in
water,
efficient,
ornaments
and
by
the
emergency
and
the
county
agricultural
commissioner's
office
will
be
verified
prior
to
issuance
of
building
permit,
and
it
sounds
like
we've
you've
already
verified
generally,
that
it
will
meet
that
green
lantern.
Stormwater
retention
will
need,
will
integrate
with
the
site
design.
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H
That
concludes
my
question.
I
guess
I
guess
the
other
thing
that
I'm,
maybe
I'm
just
looking
for
science
on
this-
is
how
I
I
agree
absolutely
with
with
the
staff
assessment
that
the
monotony
in
the
wall
facing
feral
needs
to
be
addressed,
whether
it
be
with
some
undulation
in
the
wall,
some
pilots
or
some
decorative
elements,
and
same
thing
that
the
landscape
there
in
particular
the
trees
which
would
give
height
to
to
screen
the
rvs
that
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
And
but
I'm
not
sure,
is
this.
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Oh,
you
have
a
mechanical
ring
all
right,
a
mechanical
hand
raised
if
there
aren't
other
questions.
I
have
several.
This
says
that
we
don't
require
rooftop
solar.
Can
we
or
can
we
do
the
same
requirement?
We
did
with
cannabis
to
require
either
solar
or
that
they
purchase
energy
generated
from
green
sources,
and
is
there
any
reason
we
can't
do
that.
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G
My
recommendation
to
the
commission
would
be
if
you
believe
that
there's
particularized
concerns
about
this
project
that
would
require
solar
or
green
energy.
You
could
condition
it
that
way.
However,
if
it
is
to
further
the
policy
goal
that
is
best
left
to
the
council
to
set
that
policy,
and
then
the
commission
can
implement
that
on
a
project
specific
basis.
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Your
maximum
rv
height
could
be
14
feet.
You
know
your
bigger
rvs,
you
know,
will
be
12
feet.
The
rv
we
expect
to
have
the
most
here
will
be
air.
You
know
those
air
streams,
those
trailers
and
with
the
addition
of
the
air
conditioning
unit
on
top
of
the
air
spring
trailer,
it
will
be
10
feet.
High
other
potential
uses
here
are
going
to
be
smaller
trailers,
cars,
maybe
boats
as
well,
which
will
be
below
the
tennessee
limit
below
12
feet.
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I
That
might
be
a
bit
of
a
challenge
for
them
right
now,
as
a
basic
site
plan
they're,
giving
us
a
general
schematic
of
how
where
the
water
is
going
draining
through
surface
drain
or
through
some
subterranean
pipes
and
going
to
the
retention
basins.
But
if
you
lower
that
a
significant
amount
of
feet
to
lower
the
height
of
the
rvs
that
might
end
up
being
a
problem
for
them
operational
wise.
Because
you
know
some
of
these
rvs
can
be.
I
You
know,
40
feet
long.
You
know-
and
I
know
that,
because
mine
is
40
feet
long
and
if
you
lower
this
a
significant
amount
you
trying
to
back
such
a
vehicle
in
that
big
of
a
great
difference,
might
be
a
problem
operational
wise,
but
that's
something
that
they
would
have
to
figure
out.
But
you
end
up
creating
an
internal
moat
for
water
by
doing
that,
and
then
they'll
end
up
having
to
either
probably
put
in
some
underground
pumps
or
something
to
get
that
water
from
that
location
to
their
wqmp
or
to
their
retention
injuries.
A
So
if
it
makes
maintenance
and
operations
kind
of
tricky
and
that
that
isn't
something
I
was
looking
at
doing,
the
other
thing
is
plant
material.
That
would
create
screening
and
we've
heard,
and
this
is
for
jim,
do
we
have
to
respect
the
airport
request
to
not
put
in
a
15
foot
trees
on
15
foot
of
center.
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C
Yeah
I
mean
that
is
certainly
another
option
that
the
commission
could
consider.
I
just
pulled
up
the
the
brochure
that
is
online
for
airport
land
use
commission
and
they
do
have
a
specific
design
guidance
criteria
that
says
avoid
and
prevent.
Oh
contiguous
canopy
prevent
overlapping
of
crown
structures
tree
crowns
that
is
contiguous.
Crowns
can
be,
can
provide
safe
passage
for
wildlife,
provide
sufficient
distance
between
plants
to
ensure
at
least
15
feet
of
open
space
will
remain
between
mature
grounds,
so
they
do
want
to
avoid
the
continual
tree
canopy
along
projects
near
airports,.
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A
Oh,
I
have.
I
have
another
couple
of
put
actually
a
couple
of
comments.
Some
of
the
trees
that
they
suggested
using
are
trees
that
die
in
the
valley
right
now
we're
having
a
huge
problem
with
the
hella
verdi
trees,
especially
the
variety
that
they
proposed
and
the
the
pepper
trees
are
also
dying
out,
and
I
know
I
live
in
a
community
with
a
lot
of
them
and
we
re
remove
about
10
of
them
a
year
because
of
death.
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E
Rather
than
getting
into
the
proverbial
weeds
over
this
issue,
I
believe
it's
the
commission's
responsibility
to
identify
issues
to
the
arc
and
let
them
resolve
it
as
far
as
specific
plant
types
go
and
the
same
with
the
notion
of
judging
up
that
long
wall,
I
mean
we
could
say,
that's
an
issue
for
us,
but
I
don't
propose
that
we
solve
the
problem.
That's
why
we
have
the
arc
working
with
us.
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A
I
would.
I
would
specifically
say
that
the
pallet
of
plants
needs
to
be
changed
so
that
they
exclude
the
two
trees
that
are
dying
out
in
the
valley,
but
the
rest
of
them,
I
think,
are
their
choices,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
and
that
we
and
that
they
work
on
the
wall
and
that
they
do
any
work
that
they
think
is
appropriate
on
the
buildings.
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I
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There
are
a
number
of
palm
trees
out
in
the
area.
I
was
concerned
that
that
was
an
airport
requirement,
but
it
doesn't
appear
to
be
because
there
are
many
tall
palm
trees
even
to
the
east
toward
the
airport
from
this
site,
and
I
think
if,
if
this
gets
planted
out
with
zero
palm
trees,
it's
gonna
look
a
little
strange
because,
as
we
know,
there
is
a
a
skyline
of
palm
trees
throughout
the
city,
and
I
think
this
site
should
at
least
include
some.
I
would
recommend
the
california
fan
palm
then
the
native
washingtonian
philipphera.
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A
E
First
of
all,
hedges
are
lovely
and
I
wouldn't
mind
seeing
a
hedge
in
front
of
a
block
wall
from
pharaoh.
So
I'm
not
sure
why
you're
asking
for
that.
But
then
the
southern
sort
of
third
of
the
rv
parking
would
be
required
to
be
readjusted
by
a
few
feet
because
it
looks
like
they
actually
go
right
up
to
the
to
the
wall,
which
would
impact
the
the
ability
to
use
those.
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D
D
You
know
again
with
our
condition
and
the
staff
condition
regarding
judging
up
that
wall
with
undulations
or
cutouts,
or
something
I
would
prefer
not
to
see
the
hedge
on
the
outside
of
the
wall.
To
tell
you
the
truth,
because
I
think
the
parkway
that's
being
proposed
with
the
addition
of
palm
trees
as
well,
is
going
to
be
much
more
attractive
than
a
hedge
along
a
wall.
C
C
So
from
what
I
have
written
down
here,
the
motion
is
to
approve
the
staff
recommendation,
including
the
two
additional
conditions
related
to
the
to
the
landscape
and
wall
design
along
feral
additional
revisions,
including
adding
a
14
foot
high
hedge
along
the
street,
on
partially
the
inside
and
outside
of
that
wall,
as
it
undulates
along
feral
and
then.
The
other
condition
I
have
was
that
the
palo
verde
species
be
substituted
for
an
alternate
tree
and.
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A
G
G
Landscaping
is
not
listed
in
there.
I
suppose
we
could
just
include
that.
You
know
landscaping
shall
be
maintained
as
well.
We
have
existing
codes
and
code
enforcement.
Oftentimes
is
sent
out
to
deal
with
these
property
maintenance,
landscape
maintenance
issues,
and
that
would
typically
be
where
we
would
direct
those
efforts
if
we
found
out
that
they
weren't
maintaining
the
property,
there's
really
not
a
clear
process
in
the
code,
for
you
know,
revoking
a
major
development
permit
and
I'm
not
familiar
with
that
being
an
option
with
a
use,
that's
permitted
as
of
right.
A
I
I
But
there
is
a
california
streets
and
highways
code
that
public
works
and
engineering
we
use
quite
often
and
that's
for
any
kind
of
landscaping
or
hedges
that
actually
lies
within
the
public
right-of-way
and
that
is
very
enforceable
by
us,
and
we
actually
recite
that
quite
often
and
it's
quite
effective
when
the
hedges
are
actually
hitting
the
public
right
away.
So
we
do
have
that
in
place
as
well.
G
D
F
A
F
And
since
we
were
bringing
up
the
issue
of
landscaping
on
major
streets,
I
recall
that
there
was
a
frontier
communications
project
that
we
approved
and
we
specifically
mentioned
them
improving
their
landscaping
along
sunrise,
and
I
don't
see
any
real
improvements
since
then.
It
still
looks
rather
shabby
so
I'd
like
to
find
out
what
we
required.
F
F
H
H
Palm
canyon,
the
residential
development.
There
was
some
question
about
the
pad
elevations
and
staff
was
going
to
look
into
those
and
see
if
those
were
actually
being
constructed,
as
was
approved
by
the
planning
commission
and
then
the
second
one.
There
was
also
going
to
be
an
update
on
the
orchid
tree.
I
noticed
that
there's
been
a
lot
of
demolition
in
the
last
week,
a
lot
of
demolition
and
I'm
not
sure
if
purpose
has
been
the
issue
that
presumably
has
been
for
the
demolition,
but
is
the
project
now
in
permitting?
C
Those
were
nuisance,
prop
nuisance
buildings,
where
homeless
were
getting
into
breaking
into
causing
fires
that
did
retain
obviously
the
historic
structures
on
the
church
and
the
bungalows
on
along
barista.
So
those
still
remain,
but
they
have
been
working
and
have
submitted
documents,
as
required
by
the
hotel
team
tot
incentive
program.
C
So
they
have
been
moving
forward
with
that
timeline.
They
have
submitted
an
extension
request,
so
that
will
be
before
the
commission
at
a
future
meeting
and
they
will
show
some
some
changes
that
they're
proposing
per
it
sounds
like
what
the
the
operator
is
requesting.
So
those
items
will
be
shown
to
the
commission
as
well,
but
they
do.
A
F
C
C
A
A
I
have
a
general
comment,
as
you
may
have
noticed,
in
monday's
planning
session.
The
city
has
a
great
deal
of
money
right
now
and
several
years
ago
we
asked
the
city
there.
May
there
may
not
be
anyone
other
than
me,
that's
still
on
the
commission,
but
we
asked
the
city
to
hire
a
long-term
planner
which
we
don't
have
in
our
department,
and
we
have
many
things
that
would
benefit
from
somebody
doing
long-term
planning
in
the
city,
and
I
have
sort
of
informally
commented
on
that
with
various
city
councilors.
A
A
A
H
Yeah
well,
I
agree
that
long-term
planning
is
a
good
and
necessary
thing
and
that
I
don't
necessarily
believe
that
there
is
staffing
to
be
able
to
currently
to
address
that
appropriately.
I
really
don't
think
that
it
is
the
planning
commission's
purview
to
be
trying
to
guide
the
management
of
the
department
and
staff
and
personnel
issues.
I'm
I'm
not
comfortable
weighing
in
and
asking
the
city
council
for
something
like
that
myself.
E
D
I
was
gonna,
I'm
gonna
say
I.
I
agree
with
commissioner
elaine
that
it's
very
strange
for
the
planning
commission
to
be
trying
to
dictate
the
professional
management
of
any
department.
I
saying
that
I
mean
I
agree
that
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
need
to
look
at
as
a
city,
but
I
wouldn't
want
to
be
included
in
any
formal
recommendation
from
the
commission
to
suggest
staffing
levels.
I
assume
and
maybe
david's
going
to
address
this.
D
I
assume
that
our
development
services
director
is
dealing
with
staffing
issues
all
the
time
and
maybe
they
can
tell
us.
Are
they
looking
at
new
positions
being
added
in
the
next
year
or
two,
but
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
come
from
the
planning
commission
or
should
come
from
the
planning
commission.
C
The
only
thing
I
was
going
to
say,
chair
and
commissioners
is
that
when
we
did
provide
comments
before
the
council
started
their
strategic
planning
session,
we
did
send
them
your
requests,
which
did
include
the
request
for
an
additional
planner
to
handle
long-range
plan.
So
they
do
have
a
copy
of
that.
C
A
C
There
is
additional
discussion
on
it.
There's
additional
requests
from
the
council
on
whether
or
not
police
department
is
able
to
accommodate
another
venue
that
closes
at
the
same
time
as
author
bars
downtown,
so
that
item
was
continued
to
their
next
meeting.
So
no
decision
has
been
made
on
that.
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
all
an
update
on
that.
C
My
recollection
was,
they
asked
those
questions
about
whether
hours
occurred
and
the
applicant
responded
that
they
did
reach
out
to
the
neighborhood
organizations,
but
they
didn't
reach
directly
out
to
the
adjacent
owners
and
hoteliers,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
that
was
additional
direction
from
council
on
that
we're
still
preparing
the
report.
So
I
don't
have
the
specifics
on
it.
Yet.
C
C
C
Let's
see
the
only
other
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
is
in
late
august.
I
believe
it's
august
26th,
it's
a
friday,
there's
a
free
training
that
we
would
like
to
send
commissioners
to
through
the
institute
of
local
government.
So
it's
it's
really
a
training
on.
You
know,
understanding
the
role
of
planning
commissioners
working
effectively
together
as
a
board
and
with
staff,
effective
community
engagement,
sql
basics,
typical
planning
documents.
C
So
there's
several
things
that
I
think
would
be
good
for
commissioners,
if
you're
able
to
attend
I'll
forward
you
the
email
that
we
got
today
about
it,
but
the
deputy
city
manager-
and
I
believe
it
would
be
helpful
for
commissioners
if
you're
able
to
attend.
So
that's
the
only
other
thing
you
have
to
report.