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A
A
B
Of
the
agenda
I'm
going
to
suggest
that
now
that
I
see
this
possibility
public
comment
that
we
move
the
public
comment
to.
After
for
a
we
move
for
a
up
front,
because
councilman
Korres
is
here
and
that
will
give
us
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
the
last
City
Council
meeting
and
he'll
be
able
to
give
us
some
information,
and
we
can
ask
some
questions
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
go
back
to
the
regular
order
of
events
so
I'm
going
to
make
that
motion
myself.
Do
it
I?
Second,
all
those
in
favor
all
right.
Okay,.
A
I
B
Okay,
symptoms:
okay,
so
we're
moving
all
the
items
down
now
and
we're
now
we're
going
to
go
to
the
first
item
of
old
business,
which
has
to
do
with
just
discussing
the
last
council
meeting,
which
was
the
joint
meeting
where
we
made
a
presentation
with
respect
to
our
recommendations
for
unfinanced
capital
projects
and
for
the
community
projects
and
I
just
want
to
make
kind
of
a
statement
about
process
which
is
at
that
meeting.
There
was
technically.
There
was
some
conversation
with
counsel
about
some
other
ideas.
B
E
So
just
something!
Maybe
you
and
I
could
initially
start
to
work
on
and
give
some
thought
to.
I
appreciate
a
gerund,
Vogel
and
Commissioner
have
been
meeting
with
councilmember,
Mills
and
I
about
the
community
projects
piece
of
it
earlier
so
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that,
but
I
think
we
all
could
actually
figure
out
a
different
communication
or
different
way
of
working
with
the
subcommittee,
which
I'm
very
happy
to
do
as
a
member.
So
so
two
things
were
brought
up
by
me
and
we
discussed
it
somewhat
at
the
meeting.
E
So
the
first
is
infrastructure
relating
to
homelessness
and
very
low
income,
affordable
housing,
the
situation,
I,
think
and
I
think
you
were
there
last
night
and
several
others.
You
know
where
we
talked
about
it
was
we
have
Roy's
closing
so
we're
going
to
need
another
transitional
housing
facility
and
hopefully
one
that
we
can
keep
open
during
the
day
the
good
news
is
desert.
E
Healthcare
district
is
committed,
two
million
dollars
to
West
Valley,
homeless
programs,
something
the
city
and
the
subcommittee
had
initiated
with
them
and
that's
exciting,
and
there
may
be
some
money
in
this
from
them,
especially
around
helping
homeless
individuals.
But
I
guess.
The
question
I
would
have
for
the
Commission
without
having
a
specific
project
in
mind,
is
getting
a
sense
of
whether
that's
an
appropriate
use
of
measure
J
and
whether
people
think
that
is
a
priority
in
general,
not
to
go
ahead
and
reprioritize.
E
But
if
you
do
and
council
then
wants
to
reprioritize,
we
at
least
have
that
and
we
could
bring
something
back
to
you
on
the
low
income,
affordable
housing
and
we
have
six
hundred
units
that
are
at
risk
that
we
already
subsidized
as
a
city.
But
we've
been
working
on
a
project
and
David
Brinkman
is
here
who
will
present
what
they're
doing
for
very
low-income
housing?
What
mostly
house
people
who
are
presently
homeless
and
there's?
You
know,
there's
a
funding
gap
in
doing
that.
E
The
tax
credits
have
gone
down
just
in
concern
about
what
the
new
tax
plan
that
may
come
from
the
administration
and
Congress
is
so
I.
Would
you
know
so
those
are
the
two
sort
of
capital
areas.
One
is
sort
of
transitional
housing,
emergency,
shelter
and
one
is
very
low-income,
affordable
housing
that
would
help
homeless
individuals.
The
other
issue
I
raised
was
the
buzz
and
I
know
that
didn't
originally
come
through
measure
J,
although
that's
where
the
fun
comes
from,
and
so
what
I
had
suggested
is.
E
It
might
make
sense,
because
I
do
think
we
should
get
your
recommendations
before
we
fund
council
has
a
right
not
to
right
but
and
fun
different
things,
but
I.
That's
why
we
have
the
Commission.
So
what
I
would
suggest
and
there's
a
new
council
than
was
here
when
the
buzz
started
was
I.
Think
two
questions,
one:
whether
measure
J's
the
appropriate
place
for
the
buzz
money
to
come
from.
If
that
fits
under
infrastructure
and
I
know
can
be
broader.
E
But
what
you
all
think
on
that
would
be
I,
think
helpful
for
us
and
to
to
evaluate
if
you're
interested,
then
we
could
get
a
staff
report
on
sort
of
what
the
buzz
cost
per
person
and
give
us
your
feedback
on
whether
that's
something
that
you
think
should
continue
to
be
funded
out
of
measure
J
again,
I!
Think
for
today
it's
more
getting
a
sense
so
that
when
we
do
the
budge,
we
can
discuss
it
and
then
direct
things
back
for
your
review.
So
those
are
sort
of
the
three
points.
I
wanted
to
make
great.
B
First
of
all,
I
would
like
to
say
that
I
love
the
idea
that
we
meet
not
only
in
advance
of
making
our
recommendations
but
much
earlier
in
the
year,
because
for
those
five
years
that
we
have
worked,
that
would
have
been
something
that
we
would
have
olive
liked
and
so
to
hear
it
come
from.
Council
is
a
great
thing
and
I'm
sure
everybody
speaking
for
everybody
in
more
interaction
than
less
yeah.
That
is
a
great
idea.
B
I
think
that
what
I'd
like
to
do
in
order
to
keep
this
fairly
structured
is
to
divide
the
two
subjects
one
at
a
time
and
the
first
one
is
this
question
that
a
consummate
course
is
asked
about
our
opinion
with
respect
to
infrastructure,
including
the
concepts
of
finding
homeless,
so
I
thought.
Maybe
we
could
just
go
around
and
then
we'll
do
questions
after.
But
if
you
have
an
opinion
and
would
like
to
speak
about
it,
why
don't
we
just
start
with
Commissioner
Blixen
and
then
just
kind
of
go
run
and
everybody
take
a
turn.
F
C
I'm
so
ambivalent
about
it,
because
I
I
think
it's
something
that
should
be
funded.
I,
don't
know
that
it's
that
appropriate
for
us
to
do
it,
especially
at
this
point
in
duty.
If
we
know
in
advance
we
have
several
million,
we
can
devote
the
whole
thing
on
the
next
go-around,
but
it's
sort
of
difficult
right
now.
If
we
all
decide
that
we're
going
to
do
it,
I'm
not
going
to
fret
over
because
of
it.
C
G
None
of
the
other
questions
got
that
type
of
ranking
and
and
knowing
I'm
in
the
tourism
industry
and
run
a
very
large
hotel.
It
is
a
nightmare
for
us
not
only
the
Hilton,
but
all
the
other
hotels,
and
it
is
a
recurring
on
a
daily
basis.
We
have
to
chase
at
least
at
the
Hilton
two,
if
not
three
homeless,
people
sleeping
on
the
stairs
sleeping
in
the
corridors
and
we
do
get
in
our
surveys
from
our
customers
and
and
knowing
that
measure.
J
is
dependent
on
all
the
revenues
generated
by
the
tourists.
J
My
my
household
has
been
a
fairly
active
participant
in
issues
related
to
homeless
and
including
as
members
of
the
board
on
the
Friends
of
Roy's
and
prior
to
that.
Sleight
was
on
the
homeless
task
force
for
a
number
of
years,
and
so
I'm
just
saying
that,
because
this
is
something
that
we
support
personally,
not
only
with
our
with
money
but
with
our
time.
J
H
With
with
the
same
issue-
and
that
is
the
intent
of
what
that
ordinance
was
when
we
went
to
the
voters
and
asked
them
to
vote
on
it
now,
I
understand
it
says,
without
limitation
I
do
get
that,
which
means
we
can
do
whatever
you
want.
Basically,
and
so,
if
it's
directed
that
we
want
to
include
homelessness
as
part
of
the
measure
J
process,
then
we
can
do
that.
K
K
But
given
that
I
think
at
this
point,
I'm
more
concerned
about
the
process
and
I
think
probably
where
some
of
our
downfall
was.
Is
we
used
to
have
a
subcommittee
that
on
council
they
talked
to
us
and
expressed
us
to
us
what
we
want
and
we
had
representatives
they
got
to
meet?
This
was
kind
of
out
of
the
blue,
so
personally
I
think
after
five
years
of
developing
and
process,
we
have
to
stick
with
it
and
I.
Think
that's
something.
L
L
I
should
have
known
better
I.
Think
I
would
echo
what
the
rest
of
the
commission
members
have
said
that
I
don't
really
think
the
intent
when
the
voters
passed
measure
J
was
a
difference
to
be
spent
on
homeless.
Now.
Having
said
that,
perhaps
moving
forward,
that
is
what
will
be
identified
as
the
greatest
need.
But
again
this
sort
of
was
thrust
on
us.
This
was
thrust
on
us
sort
of
out
of
the
blue.
B
I'm
going
to
state
my
opinion,
but
before
I
do
and-
and
maybe
I
should
hold
it
to
later,
but
I
do
want
to
address
something
just
said:
I
think
that
when
councilman
Coors
just
discussed
this,
it
wasn't
worth
relationship
to
the
million
dollars
in
the
community
projects.
It's
with
relationship
to
the
infrastructure
projects,
so
I
ended
modes
of
heroes,
understood
okay.
B
Safety
is
tremendously
impacted
by
having
this
degree
of
issues
with
regard
to
the
homeless.
I
also
think
that
there's
a
huge
cost
to
the
city
and
that
huge
custom
city
was
discussed
last
night,
which
is
something
like
forty
thousand
dollars
a
year
per
homeless,
individual
not
being
taken
care
of
and
not
being
given
services.
So
having
thought
about,
it,
I
agree
with
everyone
here
who
has
said
that
it
came
as
a
surprise
and
that
we
should
consider
it
within
an
ongoing
conversation.
B
I,
don't
think
anybody
has
asked
us
at
this
moment
to
do
anything
except
to
open
our
minds
and
our
hearts
to
the
conversation
and
with
that
I
think
we've
made
a
proposal
to
the
council.
They
have
to
discuss
it.
They
have
to
come
back
to
us
with
recommendation
and
that's
the
next
step
in
the
process.
But
we
did
call
this
meeting
so
that
we
could
have
some
kind
of
opportunity
to
give
them
back
a
sense
of
how
we
feel
if
you
feel
that
we
haven't
given
you
that
go
ahead.
I.
E
Get
so
where
everyone
is
and
no
and
it's
not
a
specific
ask
to
redo
recommendations
if
council
doesn't
approve
the
infrastructure
projects
and
thinks
is
a
higher
priority.
As
I
said
at
the
beginning,
I
wanted
to
come
back
to
you,
so
it
was
a
surprise
right.
There
was
commitments
receive
AG
that
we
would
have
something
in
place
when
Roy's
closed,
and
we
didn't
get
a
lot
of
notice
on
that,
and
so,
when
it
comes
to
emergency
housing,
we're
going.
E
We
are
in
a
somewhat
crisis
situation
and
it's
not
that
there's
necessarily
a
ton
of
money
sitting
in
the
general
fund,
given
our
budget
constraints
this
year.
So
ultimately
we
have
to
prioritize
and
I
do
think.
It's
not
four,
even
though
I
think
measure
J
would
allow
it
to
be
spent
on
services.
I
do
think.
A
J
Does
seem
to
me
that
if
the
city
were
looking
or
if
the
council
we're
looking
at
a
homeless
shelter
that
that
then
becomes
a
capital
project
for
the
city
and
that's
something
that
we
do
look
at
and
so
I
also
see
from
a
safety
perspective.
Public
safety
perspective,
probably
more
safety
for
the
homeless
people
than
for
anybody
else
that
this
that
this
could
be
a
window
for
interpreting.
J
What
measure
J
is
all
about
as
well.
I
also
realized
having
been
here
before
Roy's
and
when
under
Mayor
Kleindienst.
There
was
years
of
conversation
about
in
public
meetings,
about
where
to
locate
a
shelter
and
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
begin
to
think
about
where
that
might
be,
and
that
during
that
period,
that
search
period
would
be
an
opportunity
for
everybody
to
talk
about
the
funding
possibilities
for
it,
so
that,
when
that
happens,
we
could
be
ready
and
I
are
lean.
J
E
At
this
point,
there
are
two:
there
are
couple
potential
locations
and
we're
getting
some
dudes
and
a
lots
going
to
depend
on
see
bag,
and
you
know
desert
health
care
district
and
that's
all
moving
pretty
quickly.
So
that's
why
I
was
more
conceptual
and
sort
of
asked
here
you
know,
is
that
would
funding
a
building
it'll
be
something
the
commission
would
think
is
worth
considering.
C
C
I'm,
saying
is:
are
we
talking
about
like
we
have
right
now,
2.7
million
dollars,
part
of
it
excess
part
of
it,
our
million
bucks?
Do
we
give
you
all
of
that
or
is
it
do
we
allocate
like
we
would
allocate
to
any
other
projects,
such
as
parks
and
recs,
such
as
crosswalks
and
so
on?
How
would
what
was
the
demand
be
or
the
need.
B
C
B
B
If
they
came
back
to
us
with
a
proposal
whether
it
has
to
do
with
having
extra
money
or
perhaps
when
we
have
proposed
now
items
for
the
2.7
million
dollars
and
I'm
actually
going
to
move
to
the
second
topic,
because
I
think
that
the
two
are
related
in
the
event
that
a
proposal
is
presented
to
us
when
it
is
presented
to
us,
are
we
open
to
the
conversation
with
it
being
conceptually
part
of
infrastructure
projects?
If
there's
available
money
and.
B
C
B
B
However,
I
would
like
to
address
and
I
will
address
it
first,
because
I
have
very
strong
feelings
about
it.
In
the
first
place,
there
is
an
irony
with
respect
to
what
the
citizens
passed.
The
measure
J
tax
for
in
terms
of
the
one
question
that
councilman
quartz
has
brought
up.
That
is
something
that
we
have
dealt
with
in
the
past
and
are
still
dealing
with
in
the
future,
and
so
the
conversation
about
is
the
buzz
appropriately
part
of
what
measure
J
was
originally
conceived
of.
B
We
never
had
the
opportunity
to
discuss
it
as
councilman
Corps
says
another
council
actually
said
to
us.
We
are
spending
your
money
on
it
now.
The
conversation
is,
do
we
want
to,
and
if
we
want
to
we're
going
to
ask
for
a
staff
report
on
reviewing
that,
if
we
say
yes,
we
still
think
it's
appropriate.
Then
we
know
where
we
are
financially.
If
we
were
to
say
no,
we
don't
think
it's
appropriate,
especially
if
council
asks
us
and
gives
us
direction
to
do
that.
B
Then
there's
a
question
of
whether
there's
a
million
dollars
that
isn't
allocated
that
could
potentially
be
allocated
to
this
area,
and
that
would
happen
within
the
future.
The
next
few
months.
I
think
that's
really
where
we
stand.
Okay,
so
I'll,
let
everyone
I,
think
I
summarized
the
two
elements
of
this
discussion
and
actually
why
they
are
related.
So
we'll
do
it
again
we'll
go
around
and
if
anyone
has
something
to
say,
I'll
ask
you
and
then
we'll
leave
it
to
Council,
of
course,
to
wrap
this
up
before
us
all.
F
E
F
B
C
The
many
years
that
I've
worked
on
different
commissions
with
the
city,
the
homeless
concept,
has
been
a
very
strong
problem
for
beginning.
So
if
there
is
a
way
that
we
can
contribute
to
that
and
miss
something
and
I
relay
this
to
the
hospitality
end
of
things
is
the
buzz
being
used
by
out-of-town.
People
is
the
buzz,
a
major
attraction.
Otherwise
we
have
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
that
can
be
used
in
a
much
more
concrete
way
and
maybe
once
and
for
all,
handle
in
a
strong
way
locally.
G
You
all
heard
my
comments
at
the
last
meeting
and
knowing
them.
I
am
the
hospitality
representative
here
and
we
have
about
6,000
hotel
rooms
in
our
city
and
you
add
to
that
another
2000
vacation
rental,
which
is
about
another
six
thousand
rooms,
so
that
adds
up
about
12,000
hotel
rooms
that
are
utilized
by
our
guests.
G
The
the
buzz
currently
is
being
utilized
before
far
and
few
of
the
hotel
guests
from
the
Riviera,
the
ACE
and
the
Saguaro,
which
is
about
900
drugs.
So
if
you
factor
in
the
percentage
really
7,
8
percent
of
our
tourists
are
using
the
buzz
and
my
opinion,
majority
of
the
usage
is
by
our
own
residence.
So
definitely
knowing
its
a
million
dollars
cost
I
will
highly
recommend
that
those
funds
could
be
utilized
for
much
much
better
purposes.
G
J
I
do
agree
with
the
buzz
I
would
like
to
see
a
review
by
City.
Council
of
that.
I
would
also
like
to
consider
adding
the
trash
service
that
we're
paying
on
an
annual
basis,
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
it
does
seem
odd
to
have
that
in
our
multi-year
project
column
that
that
this
may
be
more
appropriate
in
some
other
city
department.
And
my
guess
is
that
if
we
were
to
really
dig
down
in
this
into
some
of
these
projects,
we
would
say
the
same.
So
I
would
say.
Yes,
mr.
H
E
Mean
one
of
the
facilities
is
one
we
can
lease
from
the
county
for
a
dollar
a
year.
If
we
were
going
to
do
that
and
spend
money
on
and
build
out,
we'd
actually
talk
about
the
county,
either
buying
it
or
giving
it
to
us.
If
that
location
were
to
work
out
and
then
there's
there's
a
build-out,
which
is
maybe
two
hundred
eighty-five
thousand.
E
If
that
is
what's
selected,
and
there
is
potential
from
desert
healthcare
district
for
the
first
time
for
the
bill
that
so
we
might
not
even
need
it
for
that,
but
that
would
that
would
be
the
appropriate
from.
In
my
view,
measure
J
part
is
the
capital
improvement
for
the
building
piece
that
would
be,
the
only
part,
I
would
think,
is
appropriate.
H
Hook
it
on
on
the
bus
side,
I
mean
I,
haven't
seen
the
data
I,
don't
know
so
I,
don't
know
how
many
people
are
actually
using
it.
It
sounds
like
not
many
people
are
using
it.
It
kind
of
surprises
me
by
typically
I,
don't
see
either
so
I
know
what
that.
So,
if
those
funds
that
could
be
used
for
something
smarter,
better
get
more
out
of
our
dollars,
I
certainly
would
support
that.
If
we
find
that
people
are
not
using
the
buzz
and
certainly.
G
H
I
mean
I'd
be
interested
to
find
out.
Okay,
that's
one
piece
of
it
all
the
people
that
are
using
it
I,
don't
think
it's
a
horrible
thing
to
have
something
for
our
citizens
either.
If
they're
using
it
a
lot
and
it's
being
used
and
people
really
appreciate
it,
then
I
think
that
we
shouldn't
think
about
that.
However,
if
it's
not
being
highly
used
period,
then-
and
it's
not
a
good
use
of
our
funds-
and
we
should
look
elsewhere-
put
those
funds
Marshall.
M
K
That
said,
once
we
got
into
it,
there
seem
to
be
very
broad
support
for
it.
I
know
off
table
and
Christian
were
both
on
the
the
committee
to
shape
this
and
come
up
with
a
good
way
from
the
beginning.
I
have
to
tell
you
I
just
felt
like
I
thought
it
was
a
good
cause.
I
thought.
Maybe
our
share
of
it
was
a
little
high.
K
I
also
want
to
say
that
as
I'm
chair
of
the
business
advocacy
and
government
affairs
for
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
so
I
brought
this
up
at
our
last
meeting
and
they
express
strong
support
for
buzz
and
actually
felt
that
it
was
a
worthwhile
and
I.
Remember
part
of
argument
when
we
first
or
you
know
consideration
when
we
first
funded.
It
is,
if
you
look
at
all
the
projects,
the
streets,
the
school,
there
was
not
a
whole
lot
that
we
had
done
for
the
business
community
when
yeah,
it's
a
generator
for
a
lot
of
this.
K
The
taxes
that
we
get
for
measure
J
so
to
me
it
was
out
of
the
all
the
money
was
spent.
It
was
appropriate
to
spend
it
on
buzz.
That
said,
I
probably
would
agree
with
Christine
and
and
Michael
that
maybe
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
reviewed
after
we've
done
it.
Why
have
we
spent?
What
do
we
do
with
the
buses
now
that
we've
paid
them
off
almost
I?
K
L
By
the
time,
I
keep
trying
to
turn
it
on
this
audio
I,
like
the
buzz
and
I,
think
the
fact
that
it's
used
by
local
community,
as
well
as
the
tourist
community,
is
probably
a
good
thing
and
I
live
up
on
the
north
side
and
I
see
people
using
it
all
the
time
and
every
time
I
turn
my
corner.
There's
a
there's:
a
bus
stop
right
in
front
of
the
Windham
timeshare
resort
and
there's
also
always
five
or
six
people
waiting
for
the
bus
on
any
given
night.
L
Having
said
that,
we
have
approximately
2.7
million
dollars
and
maybe
another
900,000
that
is
discretionary
money
for
next
year
and
I-
think
it's
basically
up
to
the
council
how
you
want
to
spend
that
money.
We
are
not
the
decision
maker
you're,
the
decision
maker
and
you
have
made
a
decision
on
the
bus,
and
you
can
certainly
change
that
if
you
want,
but
from
a
personal
perspective,
I
think
that
it's
very
popular
in
the
community
and
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
that.
So
there
might
be
a
there
might
be
a
halfway
point.
L
Maybe
we
curtail
the
buzz
I
look
at
when
it
is
used.
The
most
I'm
not
I,
went
to
lunch
one
day,
last
Thursday
Friday
I,
guess
last
week
and
the
buzz
kept
going
by
and
going
by,
and
you
know
at
noon
on
Friday.
It's
not
many
people
on
that
bus.
So
maybe
we
could
look
at
something
halfway.
That
would
be
my
suggestion
and
back
to
the
homeless
issue.
I
think
that
if
the
council
were
to
dedicate
money
to
to
infrastructure
for
homeless,
I
can
see
how
that
would
fit
into
measure.
L
F
E
But
what
I
was
told,
I
think
the
mayor
talked
about
this
last
night.
The
the
subcommittee,
which
is
him
and
councilmember
Mills,
was
that
if
we
charge
a
dollar
it
would
bring
in
$250,000
right
for
segment
of
which
200,000
according
to
the
company
that
runs,
it
would
be
neat
for
them
to
collect
the
money
which
seemed
excessive
to
me,
and
so
we
need
to
look.
E
F
And
my
other
quick
comment
is
I
moved
here
from
San
Francisco,
where
the
homeless
problem
is
in
a
different
order
of
magnitude
and
not
every
homeless.
Person
wants
to
be
in
a
shelter,
so
we
have
mentally
ill
and
you
know,
veterans,
post-traumatic
stress,
disorder
and
people
who
just
are
determined
to
live
on
the
sidewalk.
So
it's
not
going
to
be
a
complete
solution.
That's
what
I'm
saying.
B
Folk
actually
discussed
it
last
night
and
saying
that
it's
not
something
that
will
ever
be
resolved.
It
can
only
be
improved
I'm
going
to
curtail
this
conversation,
because
I
think
that
the
point
is
that
this
was
about
process,
and
we
have
a
clear
seems
to
me
that
we're
going
to
look
for
more
information,
but
I
do
want
to
say
one
thing
which
I
would
like
to
say
is
chair.
B
I,
really
appreciate
your
coming
to
this
meeting
you're
the
first
council
person
in
five
years,
who
has
come,
and
also
that
you're
the
essence
of
what
you're
really
doing
is
trying
to
have
a
conversation
with
us
and
indicating
the
council
is
not
you're
no
longer
looking
to
just
tell
us
what
to
do,
but
that
you'd
like
to
engage
in
more
discussion
and
I.
Think
that's
a
beautiful
thing
and
I.
We
look
forward
to
having
more
conversation
and
more
direction
as
well
as
more
information.
Oh
thank.
E
You
thank
you
for
that
and
I
do
think.
That's
how
it
should
work
and
actually
I
think
we
do
it
better
with
sustainability,
where
we
actually
meet
early
in
the
planning
process
for
the
year.
We
have
a
lot
more
feedback,
so
I
think
we
can
come
up
with
a
good
way
to
do
that.
I
just
want
a
sort
of
end
so
because
I'm
on
the
buzz
line.
So
for
me
it's
great
right.
It
were
really
well.
Some
line
does
to
goes
right
down.
Palm
Canyon,
the
question
right
and
I.
E
E
So
if
the
buzz
should
continue-
and
this
is
just
my
opinion-
I'll
share
it
with
you
now
that
I've
heard
from
everyone
that
should
be
from
the
general
fund,
not
necessarily
from
measure
J,
because
it
doesn't
strike
me
as
infrastructure,
and
that
was
part
of
what
I
was
trying
to
get
opinions
on
I.
Think
I
heard
that
that
doesn't
mean
the
buzz
is
good
or
bad,
and
if
you're,
on
the
buzz
line,
it's
great.
And
but
you
know
what
does
it
want
1%
of
our
general
fund.
E
So
it's
a
it's
a
big
expense
right
that
we
spend
on
it
it's
more
than
we
spend
on
every
grant.
We
give
for
economic
incentives
for
social
services
and
for
events
in
in
the
city.
So
it's
just
it's
a
big-ticket
item
and
so
I
think
getting
analysis,
which
is
what
we're
trying
to
collect
right
now
and
having
measure
J
give
input
to
council
after
you
review,
it
is
sort
of
what
I
would
like
and
then
I
think
council
needs
to
review
it,
make
a
decision
on
what's
appropriate
and
what
isn't
moving
forward.
E
So
I
really
appreciate
the
time.
I
know
you
have
a
couple
people
who
are
going
to
actually
share
some
of
the
efforts
they
are
involved
in
regarding
affordable
housing,
homeless,
individuals
here
and
so
I,
unfortunately
can't
stay
because
I'm
co-chairing
an
event.
I
have
to
go
to,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
the
time,
and
we
will
talk
about.
Maybe
at
the
next
meeting
bring
back
some
communication
ideas
on
working.
F
B
Okay,
we're
going
to
move
to
public
comment.
Now
we
didn't,
we
just
delayed
it.
So
that's
fine!
Okay!
So
now
I
am
going
to
move,
to
call
a
comment
and
we'll
read
the
instructions.
I
don't
think:
do
we
have
a
timer?
Will
you
can
you
time
for
us?
Okay,
okay,
so
public
comment,
this
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
measure,
Commission
on
agenda
items
and
items
of
general
interest
with
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
B
N
N
Name
is
Arlene
Rosenthal
and
I.
Am
the
president
of
the
well
in
the
desert,
and
I
have
been
for
going
on
14
years
and
I'm
here,
I
was
here
to
get
information,
and
it's
wonderful
I
have
so
much
regard
and
respect
for
all
of
you.
I
just
didn't
know
that
the
kind
of
thing
that
that
was
involved
in
measure
J
and
I
remember
asking
five
years
ago
when
you
started
asking
somebody
I
think
was
mayor
moon
when
he
came
on
I
said
Kent.
N
Is
there
any
way
that
we
could
have
some
funding
to
help
the
well
in
the
desert?
And
he
said
no,
that's
not
what
we're
all
about.
So
then
councilman
Coors
asked
me
to
be
here
and
before
I
say
one
thing
about
infrastructure,
commissioner
daata
we
have
a
program
called
operation
well
assist
I
will
give
you
our
administrators
name
and
number.
N
You
call
him
and
they
will
handle
the
people
that
are
disturbing
the
Hilton
and
that's
part
of
our
program
to
bring
them
to
us
for
services,
referrals,
a
hot
meal
and
so
that
business
can
thrive
because
we're
all
in
favor
of
business
thriving
in
Palm
Springs.
So
next
week,
at
rotary,
I'll
bring
you
the
information.
N
Okay,
I,
listened
and
I
have
high
regard
for
everything
you
said,
and
it's
amazing,
because
you
talked
about
infrastructure
and
how
better
can
it
be,
but
to
allow
the
city
to
have
some
money
to
devote
to
that
I've
been
working
with
Councilman,
Coors
and
the
city
for
some
time
on
how
we
move
forward
in
a
more
positive
manner
in
resolving
our
issues,
the
issues
will
never
be
completely
resolved.
Homelessness
is
here
to
stay
with
us
and
I
said
last
night.
We
do
not
know
why
people
fall.
Why
do
they
fall
for
the
through
the
cracks?
N
I
had
a
millionaire
friend,
she
ended
up
homeless,
so
we
don't
know,
but
the
well
in
the
desert
helps
to
lift
people
back
up.
Infrastructure
is
safety.
If
you
have
people
in
town
that
are
potentially
emotionally
dangerous,
that
will
scare
the
people,
that's
infrastructure,
you
need
a
place
for
them
to
go
and
right
now
we
are
working
on
a
place
that
will
be
a
cool
Center
and
where
we
can
bring
people
from
downtown
and
we're
working
on
a
place
that
actually
would
draw
people
away
from
the
downtown.
N
A
I
Good
afternoon,
commissioners,
thanks
for
allowing
me
to
come
and
speak
to
you
today,
I'm
the
CEO
of
desert,
AIDS
project
and
I've,
served
in
that
role
for
the
last
11
years.
Since
2012
desert
AIDS
project
has
served
all
low-income
residents.
We
became
what's
called
a
federally
qualified
health
center,
and
so
people
having
HIV
is
no
longer
a
qualification
for
our
medical
home.
Part
of
that
is
housing
people
we
house
80
families
and
individuals
on
our
campus.
Today,
at
our
Vista
sunrise
housing
facility,
we
are
their
doctors
we're
their
psychiatrist.
I
We
are
their
dentists,
we
are
their
food
provider.
We
provide
wraparound
services
to
them,
desert
AIDS
project
in
December,
closed
escrow
on
a
vacant,
parcel
land
adjacent
to
our
property,
and
just
today
we
went
to
escrow
into
another
parcel
of
land
adjacent
to
our
property.
We
have
a
design
to
develop.
Another
61
units
for
low-income
people,
who
are
residents
of
our
community
brent,
starts
at
$249
a
month.
I
think
if
you
look
at
our
current
project,
that's
been
housing.
People
since
2007
those
80
families
is
a
huge
success
story
for
Palm
Springs.
I
We've
done
a
great
job
of
stabilizing
80
individuals
and
families
on
our
in
our
facility.
The
big
challenge
today
is
tax
credits.
Tax
credits
is
how
you
normally
finance
capital
and
infrastructure
to
developing
more
housing.
With
the
change
in
the
presidential
administration,
we've
had
a
decrease
in
value
in
tax
credits,
so
we
are
able
to
raise
50%
of
the
funding
to
develop
the
next
61
units,
but
we
need
infrastructure
in
capital
investment
from
our
community
in
which
to
do
so.
I
Of
course,
I've
talked
to
all
the
national
foundations
about
funding
our
work,
and
all
of
them
have
asked
me.
What
is
your
city
invested
so
far
in
solving
the
homeless
issue
as
specific
to
this
project,
and
so
far,
desert
A's
project
doesn't
have
an
answer.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
opportunity
to
come
and
talk
to
you
about
this
project.
If
I'm
invited
back
sometime
I'd
be
happy
to
show
you
a
PowerPoint
presentation
of
the
design
of
it
and
answer
any
questions.
M
All
right,
I
can
hardly
stay
in
my
chair,
I'm,
so
excited
to
talk
to
you
guys,
I'm
with
Street
Life,
Project,
Homeless
outreach.
We
serve
about
300,
homeless,
valley-wide
and
in
fact
tonight
we
have
outreach.
We
provide
food
clothing,
toiletries
necessities,
but
more
than
that,
love
and
mentorship
and
guidance,
and
we've
been
researching
solutions
for
the
longest
time,
because
our
biggest
hurdle
is
a
place
for
them
to
go.
We
actually
have
been
researching
tiny
home
communities.
We've
been
looking
at
like
what
what
is
Seattle
doing,
what
is
Portland
doing?
M
What
are
these
communities
doing,
that
have
chronic
homeless,
you're,
not
shelters,
aren't
serving
the
chronic
homeless
and
that
that's
why
you
lived
in
Seattle?
It
was.
It
was
a
homeless
everywhere,
they've
solved
the
problem
they've
spent
over
250
million
dollars
in
solving
this
problem
in
the
research
and
development
of
these
programs.
So
we
actually
toured
Portland
Seattle
and
besides
pulling
the
case
studies
which
is
about
that
thick,
we
actually
went
to
the
camps
themselves.
M
We
got
the
intake
packets,
we
got
the
sign
and
sign
out
sheets,
we
learned
how
they
functioned
and
how
they're
managed
are
actually
self-managed
and
people
are
voted
into
certain
positions
in
the
camp
and
it's
been
amazing
success.
Actually,
people
feel
empowered
now
because
they're
managing
the
camp
they're
keeping
it
clean.
They
each
take
turn
at
the
security
desk,
they're
responsible
for
to
community
or
a
community
point
for
every
two
weeks
where
they
go
out
and
serve
the
community
that
could
be
picking
up.
M
So
when
they're
going
in
displacing
people,
we
they
send
us
in
there
to
talk
about
it
and
we've
been
working
on
this
relationship
and
about
three
weeks
ago
we
got
the
thumbs
up
to
move
forward
on
parcels
of
land
throughout
Coachella
Valley
that
they'll
provide
us
for
free
for
these
tiny
home
communities.
They
have
seen
the
details
in
our
plan
and
they're
going
for
it.
We've
been.
This
is
kind
of
hard.
Three
minutes
is
really
tough.
M
What
I'm
requesting
from
you
guys
is
a
real,
genuine
hardcore
presentation
and
let's
solve
the
problems
for
the
chronic
homeless,
the
mentally
ill,
the
people
that
are
out
there
we're
going
to
centralize
our
services,
we're
going
to
get
them
out
out
of
the
hotels
out
in
front
of
the
restaurants
and
we're
going
to
centralize
our
service
efforts,
we're
going
to
have
mental
health
professionals
coming
and
serving
these
communities.
We
have
health
care
providers
that
are
going
to
provide
people
assistance,
I
have
AIDS
hepatitis.
M
A
lot
of
people
have
MRSA,
which
is
very
prevalent
but
they're
willing
to
come
on
a
weekly
basis
and
provide
these
services
along
with
job
training
is
what
we
do
that
too.
But
it's
a
very
functional
program
and
it
only
costs
a
million
dollars
and
we
can
literally
put
a
roof
over
every
single
person's
head.
M
D
We
talked
really
really
fast,
so
my
name
is
Blair
Wagner
I'm
also
with
Street
Life
Project.
We
actually
have
an
outreach
today
at
6
o'clock,
starting
at
sunrise
Park.
If
any
of
you
guys
want
to
come,
you
really.
Can
you
hear
me?
No
I'm,
sorry
I'm
on
my
tiptoes,
don't
tilt
it
down?
Okay,
that
better
okay!
So
mr.
Vogel
you
went
over
kind
of
the
cost
per
year.
D
The
cost
of
homelessness
to
keep
you
know
not
do
anything
and
have
people
on
the
streets
in
our
proposal,
which
is
pretty
lengthy
and
very
detailed.
D
We
cover
we
did
a
range
of
30,000
to
50,000
per
person
per
year.
That's
kind
of
the
national
average
on
a
scale,
so
I
did
figures
based
off
of
the
30,000
amount,
which
is
taking
the
lowest
end
just
in
Palm
Springs,
which
the
homeless
count.
Now
that's
point
in
time
from
Riverside,
which
we
know
that
that's
not
accounting
for
everybody
there's
no
way
that
they
can
possibly
account
for
that.
So,
based
on
the
point
in
time,
counts
they
are
showing
138
homeless.
D
In
Palm
Springs
alone,
the
count
for
Coachella
Valley
wide
going
from
Desert
Hot
Springs.
All
the
way
out
to
Coachella
was
452
in
2016
the
count
was
305,
so
you
can
see
the
dramatic
increase.
So
if
we're
talking
just
Palm
Springs
based
on
that
$30,000
per
year,
and
that's
anything
from
emergency
room
visits,
the
police
fire
all
of
your
emergency
providers
that
are
taking
into
account
the
homeless,
based
on
that
figure,
Palm
Springs,
it's
gonna
cost
four
million
one
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
to
cover
the
138
people.
D
So
that's
just
per
year
in
one
year,
and
we
can
see
that
the
homeless
count
is
going
up.
I
think
the
biggest
thing
about
our
proposal
is
that
we're
not
setting
all
the
burden
on
one
city
we're
actually
asking
that
every
city
throughout
our
Coachella
Valley
work
together
and
take
care
of
the
homeless
that
are
accounted
for
in
their
city,
because
we
see
a
lot
of
homeless
dumping
where
even
from
people
coming
in
from
banning
in
Beaumont
that
are
just
being
dumped
out
here
at
Desert
Regional
and
they
know
nobody.
D
They
don't
even
know
where
they
are
half
the
time.
So
that's
that's
the
biggest
issue.
So
it's
really
taking
holding
every
city
accountable
for
our
people
and
a
lot
of
these
people
are
residents
and
they've
been
here
and
worked
and
we
have
a
ton
of
animal
shelters.
We
don't
have
enough
services
for
homeless,
so
we're
not
asking
for
another
shelter
we're
asking
to
look
at
an
actual
proven
and
viable
solution.
That's
working
in
much
bigger
cities
like
Miss
vixen
mentioned
in
San
Francisco.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
C
B
I
B
I
think
we've
done
that.
Okay,
we've
made
our
proposal
to
the
City
Council
and,
as
far
as
my
understanding
is
concerned,
this
is
a
bit
of
a
call
in
response.
We've
had
our
conversation
with
Councilman
Coors.
He
has
a
sense
of
what
happened
here,
and
the
next
step
is
to
wait
for
the
council
to
discuss
this
I
recommend
and
ask
each
of
the
commissioners
to
watch
the
council
agenda,
and
when
this
comes
up
it
would
be
a
good
idea.
I
last
year,
I
was
present
in
order
to
answer
any
questions.
We're
not
really
done.
B
We
made
the
presentation,
but
when
they
discuss
our
recommendations,
it's
totally
possible
for
us
to
be
at
that
meeting
and
to
converse
and
to
give
further
response.
But
at
this
point
it's
really
a
matter
of
just
waiting
for
direction.
Okay
and
I
would
say
that
that's
basically
was
the
point
of
this
meeting.
We
do
have
these
two
other
agenda
items
which
is
the
before
we
get
to
new
business.
The
finance
directors
report
and
the
measure
J
projects
report
do
either
of
you
feel
that
there's
something
important
that
you
would
like
to
say.
A
The
direction
of
the
commission
from
the
last
meeting
I
broke
out
the
downtown
project,
slash
part
into
two
lines:
you'll
see
that
reflected
on
your
report
and
please
report
that
we've
now
hit
the
60
million
dollar
level
on
total
measure.
J
revenues
over
the
last
five
years
with
that
I'd.
Also,
with
my
great
pleasure
like
to
introduce
my
new
friend
Tom
Garcia
he's
the
new
director
of
engineering
he's
not
Mark's
good
and
I.
Just
wanted
you
to
say
hello
to
him.
Well,
that's.
B
A
G
A
A
A
J
A
G
C
J
J
A
L
A
L
A
Of
the
one
that
got
hit,
that's
we
have
a
project.
That's
going
out
too.
It's
going
to
be
under
an
existing,
paving
project.
That's
going
to
relocate
the
media
that
the
new
sign
will
be
placed
in
the
new
sign
won't
be
placed
as
part
of
the
change
order
for
the
pavement
project
it'll
be
placed,
but
that
pavement
project
will
relocate
all
the
utilities
to
to
the
new
media
and.
C
B
Going
to
take
you
off
the
hook
here
and
move
on
okay,
so
you'll
notice
that
the
next
meeting
and
the
last
meeting
of
the
year
is
June
15th.
Hopefully
the
council
will
discuss
our
recommendations
before
that.
If
they
don't,
then
we'll
see
what
happens
in
terms
of
the
necessity
to
discuss
anything
after
that,
however,
I
did
want
to
bring
up
something.
This
is
something
that
I
am
personally
bringing
up
here,
which
has
to
do
with
the
timeline
for
the
election
of
new
officers.
B
A
B
Just
say
Harrison
because
mr.
Commissioner
heritage
is
not
going
to
seek
a
new
term,
which
means
there
are
three
commissioners
who
have
participated
for
a
minimum
of
two
years
or
a
maximum
for
five
years
in
the
business
of
the
Commission.
Okay,
it's
possible
that
the
council
will
replace
those
commissioners
and
it's
possible
that
they
won't.
But
in
any
event,
it
is
my
feeling
personally
that
commissioners,
who
have
never
been
a
part
of
this
commission,
really
are
not
necessarily
the
right
people
to
vote
for
the
leadership
of
the
Commission.
B
Particularly
since
now
the
Commission
is
discussing
some
very
important
new
items
that
has
to
do
with
a
lot
of
the
past.
I
also
feel
that
the
commissioners
who
are
leaving
should
be
given
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
ongoing
direction
and
not
have
their
intelligence
and
all
of
the
things
that
they
have
contributed
over
these
years,
not
be
part
of
the
discussion
of
leadership,
regardless
of
who
is
that
person
who's
going
to
lead
so
I'm
going
to
and
ask
for
discussion
with
respect
to
moving
the
election
to
the
next
meeting.
That.
B
K
B
K
Those
of
us
have
been
here
for
a
while,
probably
look
back,
and
there
was
significant
decisions
that
were
made
that
we
wish
that
we
had
had
a
little
bit
much
more
exposure
to
so
I
think
it
would
be
a
lot
to
ask
to
have
three
new
members
come
on
and
not
know
what
it's
all
about.
So
I
make
the
motion
that
we
have
our
elections
and
second
can.
B
Meeting
just
we
have
accept
that
and
we
did
it
in
the
September
meeting
traditionally,
because
a
we
started
in
September,
our
first
meeting
has
was
in
September
other
commissions.
Do
it
in
July,
but
I
am
making
this
particular
point
that
while
it's
been
tradition,
there
is
a
difference
here,
especially
after
five
years.
Well,.
L
I
just
like
to
give
a
contrasting
opinion-
and
that
is
you
know,
is
if
our
brand-new
Commissioner
coming
on
this
Commission
and
the
officers,
and
essentially
the
leadership,
was
already
in
place.
I
would
feel
like
that.
I
was
not
part
of
that
decision.
I
personally
think
it
should
be
in
September
when
the
new
commissioners
are
in
place,
but.
H
Speaking
as
one
of
the
newer
members
I
respect
their
going
to
disagree
with
that,
I
think
that
the
rest
of
you
that
have
been
on
this
commission
for
a
very
long
time
understand
the
process.
You
understand
the
issues
you
don't
come
in
from
the
outside.
You
know
you
can
read
about
it
and
doesn't
sign
all
these
types
of
things,
but
you
don't
really
get
it
until
you're
sitting
in
this
chair
and
so
I
am
very
really
hard
for
someone
to
come
in
September
the
first
day
they're.
F
B
How
long
do
we
wait
right?
Well,
we
wouldn't
be
waiting,
but
again
it's
I'm
not
sure
that
the
commissioners
who
are
terming
out
are
going
to
return
there.
It's
their
option
to
sit
through
or
not,
but
I
would
like
to
basically
suggest
it
and
I
think
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
So
let's
vote
on
the
motion.
So
all
those
you
want
to
well.