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City of Palm Springs Architectural Review Committee Meeting, held January 3rd, 2022
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Is
there
a
second
a
second
second,
all
in
favor
all
right,
hi?
Okay,
since
this
is
a
public
meeting
audience
members
are
permitted
to
comment
on
any
issue.
That's
within
this
committee's
purview
comments
on
an
item
appearing
on
today's
agenda
are
made
at
the
time
that
that
item
is
presented.
If
somebody
would
like
to
speak
on
an
item
not
on
today's
agenda,
you
may
speak
now.
You
will
have
three
minutes.
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Okay,
the
question
from
the
committee
member
was
that
it
appears,
but
by
looking
on
sheet
three
at
the
section,
through
the
sign
that
the
bottom
of
the
sign
projects
out
from
the
wall
further
than
the
top
of
the
sign.
So
the
sign
would
not
be
parallel
to
the
wall.
Was
that
the
intention
or
are
the
dimensions
incorrect.
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I
don't
know
if
that's
a
concern
now,
as
we
just
looked
at
the
pictures
that
alex
presented
of
the
existing
signs
within
the
center,
they
are
all
different
without
question,
so
there
isn't
a
consistency
to
the
lettering
or
style
within
the
center.
Does
anybody
on
the
committee
have
any
concerns
about
the
sign,
the
monument
sign
not
being
the
same
on
all
the
different
signs.
J
I
think
in
my,
in
my
opinion,
with
the
background
being
the
same
on
the
monument
sign
and
the
color
of
the
font,
being
the
same
as
as
the
other
signs
on
there.
I
don't
find
it
terribly
offensive
tom
if,
if
this
one
had
a
red
background
and
the
rest
of
them
were
nice
white
backgrounds
with
black
lettering,
I
think
that
would
start
to
get
out
of
place
and
you
could
see
that
as
other
companies
follow
suit,
it
would
get
out
of
hand
pretty
quickly.
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Okay,
we
are
going
to
move
now
to
new
business
item
number
four
stat
family
trust
owner
for
a
major
architectural
review,
application
for
the
construction
of
a
4122
square
foot,
single-family
house
on
a
hillside
lot
located
at
2368
city
view
drive
in
the
desert,
palisades
pacific
plan.
Do
we
have
a
staff
report.
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As
you
know,
the
desert
palisades
guidelines
discourages
front
loaded
garages
and
staff
express
that
to
the
applicant,
and
they
will
be
able
to
give
you
a
reason
as
to
why
the
garage
is
remaining.
As
is
on
the
east
side,
the
house
is
set
seven
and
a
half
feet
back
out
of
the
no
build
easement
and
then
also
additional
10
feet.
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Moving
on
to
the
site
plan,
I'm
sorry
the
floor
plan.
It
is
a
three-bedroom,
I'm
sorry
four-bedroom
house,
with
a
u-shape
with
a
dining
great
room,
living
room
kitchen
facing
west
with
the
pool
in
the
inner
courtyard
here,
the
building
architecture.
As
we
mentioned
it,
it
meets
the
18-foot
slope,
height
limit
and,
as
you
see,
the
garage
faces
the
street
and
then
the
natural
grade,
slopes
west
to
east
there's
a
clear,
clear
story:
window
above
the
great
room
and
then
the
rear
shows
windows
and
sliders
to
the
south
views.
E
Grading
permit,
there
is
grading.
That's
proposed
on
the
site,
obviously,
and
the
grading
plan
has
been
is
with
our
engineering
department
right
now
for
plan
check
review,
I'm
looking
at
materials,
the
the
proposed
exterior
will
be
a
stucco,
a
la
haber,
which
is
a
great
color
windows
and
sliders
with
dark
anodized
frames.
A
brick
columns
are
angela's
precision
block
in
a
sand,
color
and
then
fascias
are
dark.
Bronze
with
eaves
that
have
ebay
wood
underneath
vertical
battens
in
the
garage
door
will
also
be
wood
elements.
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Okay,
thank
you.
So
let
me
start
by
saying
we're
we're
huge
fans
in
the
neighborhood.
The
vision
of
neighborhood,
the
architectural
site
plans
are
really
a
primary
reason.
We
decided
to
build
there.
This
will
be
my
primary
residence,
it's
a
dream
neighborhood
for
me
and
so
we're
we're
super
thrilled
to
be
part
of
the
neighborhood
we've.
H
We
worked
really
hard
and
I
think,
there's
a
house
a
couple
lots
below
us
that
has
a
very
similar
lot.
We
worked
really
hard
to
maintain
the
natural
drainages,
especially
on
the
north
side
of
the
lot,
and
it
as
it
turns
out
it's
a
much
more
significant
drainage
and
we
wish
when
we
that
we,
then
we
realized
when
we
initially
bought
the
lot
and
and
designed
the
house.
H
We
have
done
a
couple
of
things
to
mitigate
the
visual
impact
of
that
forward-facing
garage.
We
rotated
the
house
counterclockwise
as
much
as
possible
like
hard
up
on
the
setbacks
in
both
directions,
so
the
house
actually
tilts
away
from
the
road
visually
on
the
garage
side.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
many
degrees,
but
it's
definitely
less
visible
the
road
as
you're
going
up
the
road
there.
The
road
turns
to
the
left
away
from
the
garage,
so
I
think
visually
it
has.
H
It
makes
less
of
an
impact
on
on
the
eye
when
you
see
it-
and
I
think
you
saw
that
in
one
of
the
plans
that
that
the
one
of
the
shots
that
glenn
shared
earlier
and
we
lowered
the
house
about
two
and
a
half
feet,
I
think
exactly
two
and
a
half
feet
from
the
balance
of
the
rest
of
the
roofline.
Both
of
those
things
were
were
efforts
on
our
behalf
to
to
minimize
the
impact,
the
visual
impact
of
the
the
garage
in
the
neighborhood.
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I
actually
think
we'll
probably
end
up
based
on
what
I've
seen
so
far
with
less
hardscaping
and
more
just
natural
landscaping.
That's
in
there.
So
we're
we're
following
the
guidelines
with
you
know
that
we've
seen
in
the
architectural
plans
with
with
native
plants
and
the
only
the
only
major
things
that
I
think
we'll
plant
will
be
in
that
northwest
corner
back
where
the
pool
is
as
as
screens
for
the
pool
and
we're
actually
going
to
try
to
to
do
the
screening
for
the
pool
without
any
walls
or
structures
at
all.
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H
Right
now
that
we
have
laid
out
as
stucco,
we
found
some
really
interesting
cement
material
to
use
in
there
as
well,
but
it's
really
hard
to
get
a
hold
of
right
now,
so
we've
decided
to
go
with
stucco
for
the
time
being,
and
somebody
will
have
to
guide
me
if
we,
if
we
don't
do
stucco
and
we
do
that
cement
material.
If
we'll
have
to
come
back
for
approval,
if
we
have
to,
we
will
there's
a
lot
of
glass
in
the
house.
H
You
know
the
rock
in
there
has
varying
degrees
of
of
sort
of
grays
and
tans
and
light
colors,
and
I
think
the
aesthetic
will
look
great.
I've
never
done
a
presentation
on
anything
like
this
before
it's
my
house.
So
it's
the
first
time.
I've
done
this,
so
I
don't
know
if
you're
looking
for
something
in
particular,
but
I
I
do
feel
like
the
the
house
design
and
the
aesthetic
and
the
light
footprint
will
be
it'll
be
different.
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The
there's
two
bedrooms
and
two
bathrooms
that
face
the
street
and
they
each
have
fairly
narrow
but
tall
windows
in
the
drawings.
It
doesn't
show
any
divisions
or
mullions
or
anything
within
those
windows,
though,
on
your
materialists
they're
called
out,
is
single
hung.
So
is
that
true
that
there'll
be
a
horizontal
bar
somewhere
in
this?
These
windows
and
the
window
will
operate
by
moving
up
and
down.
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Yeah,
actually,
this
right
now,
where
we
have
the
pool
equipment
under
this
awning
that
you
see
right
here.
I
actually
think
the
intent
is
to
put
the
pool
equipment
and
the
trash
behind
where
you
see
the
door
opening
into
the
garage
with
the
low
retaining
wall
there.
So
that's
an
omission
that
it's
not
there.
I
think
we
went
back
and
forth
when
and
we
when
we
rotated
the
house
to
get
the
garage
away
from
the
street,
it
created
room
for
us
to
put
that
over
on
that
side
of
the
house.
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H
There's
a
small
patio
you
see
here
and
a
small
patio
under
the
eaves,
that's
adjacent
to
the
living
room.
Our
intent
is
to
have
this
area
in
between
those
two
to
be
natural.
Landscaping
predominantly
rocks
sand
dirt
planting,
but
not
to
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
hardscaping
in
there.
I
I
envisioned
a
little
trail
working
our
way
from
the
patio
to
the
pool.
D
So
you
don't
want
to
have
any
kind
of
fence
around
the
pool.
Are
you
going
to
do
a
pool
cover?
Is
that
what
your
intent
is?
It
is
yes,
okay,
all
right
and
then
on
the
east
side
of
the
house,
you
have
that
long,
terrace
patio
and
at
the
southeast
part
of
it
it's
quite
a
bit
of
a
drop
to
the
natural
grade.
Are
you
planning
a
railing
along
that.
H
I'd
prefer
not
to
have
one,
but
if,
if
we're
it's
a
necessity
for
us
to
do
we'll
do
something,
that's
sheer
whether
it's
cabling
or
plexiglass
glass.
I
I
don't
know
the
coat
frankly
for
the
height
there,
but
I
would
prefer
to
have
it
it's
not
going
to
be
a
huge
seating
area.
It's
just
intended
to
have
enough
space
to
be
under
the
eaves
a
little
bit
of
coverage
there,
but
a
couple
of
chairs
facing
I
guess
that
would
be
to
the
south
and
east
okay,
so
that
that
would
be
my
intent.
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A
lot
of
stuff
is
going
to
have
to
be
finalized
in
the
field,
but
at
least
to
really
for
us
to
understand
your
intent
with
the
knowledge
that
it
probably
will
be
modified.
But
still,
if
we
need
for
you
to
show
us
what
your
intent
is
and
a
little
more
of
the
quantity
of
plants
that
you
think
you'd
be
putting
in.
F
Tom,
could
I
add
to
that
yeah
yeah.
I
think
when
you
look
at
that
lighting
plan,
it
does
show
you
know
quite
a
few
numbers
of
boulders
and
so
forth,
and
I
think
if
the
civil
engineer
integrated
those
boulders
into
his
grading
plan,
so
some
of
those
contours
might
die
into
the
boulders
and
the
boulders
become
the
retaining
factor,
and
so
I
think
those
two
need
to
go
together.
F
I
did
have
a
question
on
the
lighting
plan
itself:
yeah
there
was
48
of
it's
model,
number
16017,
azt
lights
and
again
at
first.
When
I
saw
the
symbol,
I
thought
maybe
they
were
pathway
lights,
but
they're,
actually
a
smaller
type
accent
light,
and
I
guess
my
question
is
so
they're
not
really
providing
light
to
the
ground
surface
along
the
pathways
or
is
the
intent
of
those
to
light
plants
or
rocks
or
I'm
just
concerned
about
having
too
many
up
lights
up
on
the
hillside.
F
H
Well,
I
I
can't
I
apologize.
I
can't
talk
specifically
to
the
lighting
plan,
but
I
can
tell
you
the
the
intent
with
the
lighting
is.
There
would
be
some
shadows
created
off
landscaping
and
rocks,
and
we
certainly
would
need
lighting
along
the
pathways
in
between
the
pool
and
the
the
the
back
of
the
house
and
the
sidewalk
in
the
front,
but
we
specifically
actually
have
taken
lights
like
out
of
the
eaves
to
to
minimize
the
amount
of
light
there
and
I'm
I
live
in
the
mountains
predominantly
and
I'm
I
actually
anti-light
pollution
guy.
H
F
Well,
I
think
what
the
my
concern
is.
If
you
look
at
the
fixtures
depicted
on
the
sheet,
you
know
they're
both
kind
of
up
lights,
that
you
would
use
yeah
one's
a
larger
one.
One
is
accent,
light
for
plants,
so
I'm
not
sure
how
much
you'll
get
to
light
the
pathway,
even
though
they
show
them
kind
of
along
the
pathway.
H
Well,
I
think
it's
clear
that
we
owe
you
a
little
bit
more
in
in
the
form
of
a
landscaping
plan
and
that
we
can
do
that
at
the
same
time
and
and
give
you
a
more
refined
view
of
the
lighting
plan
as
well.
I
don't
know
the
protocol
here
like
where,
where
we're
going
to
end
up,
and
if
I'll
have
a
list
of
things,
we
need
to
do
that
create
a
contingency
for
approval,
et
cetera,
so
you'll
have
to
guide
me
on
that,
but
you
know
it.
It's
certainly
something
we
can
do.
H
C
Thing
as
I'm
looking
at
the
topography,
you
know
we
got
basically
from
one
corner
of
the
house
to
the
other.
It's
about
a
six
to
seven
foot
grade
change
and
I
can
kind
of
see
it
in
the
elevations.
But
I'm
almost
thinking
we
need
to
see
a
section
or
two
to
see
how
you're,
addressing
the
six
to
seven
foot
grade
change
from
one
end
of
the
house
to
the
other.
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I
see
even
more
coverage
of
boulders
and
and
there's
some
pocket
creation
in
there,
but
I
don't
know
that
they've
gotten
quite
down
the
13
feet
that
this
is
proposing
in
such
a
short
span
and
minding
that
seven
seven
and
a
half
foot
nobilities
meant
that's
not
really
supposed
to
be
touched,
so
there's
even
less
real
estate
on
that
side
of
the
property
to
achieve
what
you're
trying
to
do.
Sometimes
it's
not
even
the
width
of
that
patio
you're
proposing,
particularly
at
the
northern
end
of
that
that
eastside
patio
there
sorry.
J
J
I'm
looking
at
your
sheet
a2
in
the
east
side
of
the
building
and
there's
there's
four
lights
that
you
know.
I
can't
imagine
that
you'd
actually
make
those
decisions
when
you
go
to
place
them
in
the
field,
because
I
don't
see
that
they're
really
aligned
with
much
of
anything
other
than
covering.
Maybe
you
had
a
requirement
to
have
four
lights
spread
out
over
there,
so
I
think
those
need
to
be
adjusted
and
placed.
H
J
What
all
these
other
outdoor
lighting
items
are
and-
and
you
said
yourself
it's
it's-
you
were
referencing
the
landscape
lighting
and
how
your
intention
was
to
not
have
obscenely
lit
landscape,
and
but
you
said
it
was
a
glass
box,
and
so
I
think
it's
it
would
be
nice
to
be
mindful
of
that
and
it
is
going
to
be
a
glass
box
and
people
are
going
to
be
looking
right
in
and
up
at
it.
And
so
I
wonder
what
thinking
through
that
interior
lighting
and
how
that?
J
H
C
H
In
the
house
to
screen
it
so
we're
not
on
display,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
the
questions
yeah
and
address
it.
It's
it
is.
It's
been
an
active
point
of
discussion
in
our
household
no
question
and
you
know
there's
obviously
positives
and
negatives.
You
know
we
intend
to
have
translucent
shading.
H
C
H
J
J
That,
I
think,
is
the
direction
you
were
trying
to
go
with
your
landscape
lighting,
rather
than
just
looking
through
and
seeing
a
more
which
to
me
appears
like
a
little
bit
of
a
haphazard
layout
in
the
lighting
plan.
Now
and
maybe
that's
fine
you've
got
enough
lights
shown
and
you're
going
to
kick
that
can
down
the
road
and
you're
going
to
develop
that
further,
once
the
framing's
going
on
and
and
be
a
little
more
mindful
of
your
lighting
placement,
then.
J
But
I'm
asking
the
question
now
because
it's
a
hillside
development
and
it's
something
I
would
be
concerned
with,
and
I
think
it's
something
that
you're
going
to
be
concerned
with
sooner
or
later.
If
you
don't
think
about
it
now
so
so,
bedroom
2
comes
to
mind
that
certainly
that
east
exterior
ceiling
overhang
comes
to
mind.
J
I'm
sure
you'll
have
a
neighbor
or
two
and
including
yourself
as
you
look
through
the
glass
corridor
on
the
north
side
of
guest
bedrooms.
Three
and
four
and
I
go
there,
so
you
know
there's
six
or
seven
lights
along
that
corridor
and
I
think
they're
doing
their
job.
Some
of
them
are
hidden
by
solid
walls.
J
Some
are
not,
but
could
that
be
better
at
just
highlighting
art
and
creating
more
of
that
glow
you're.
Looking
for
through
that
space
and
highlighting
art
on
the
wall,
or
do
they
really
need
to
be
this
just
to
con
six
evenly
spaced
lights?
So
I
guess
it's
just
a
comma
to
be
mindful
of
lighting.
People
are
gonna,
see
it.
H
J
G
G
G
G
J
I
might
where
I'm
really
going
with
this
is
showing
them
accurately
on
the
site
plan,
also
and
and
if
they
need
to
be
screened
from
your
own
view,
particularly
like
I
look
at
that
one.
You
had
north
of
the
laundry
and
I
think
that's
not
something
I
want
to
look
at
from
the
master
tub
area
or
here
so
if
that
ends
up
being
located
somewhere
else
in
the
yard,
which
I
think
it
could
be
further
away
from
the
house
and
some
type
of
enclosure.
For
that,
I
think,
would
would
be
a
nice
idea.
G
Yeah,
I
think
it's
push.
It
would
be
pushed
back
enough,
it'd
be
like
those
tall
skinny
ones
that
have
been
pushed
back
enough,
that
you
wouldn't
see
it
from
your
view,
is
kind
of
towards
the
northeast
from
that
bathtub,
and
I
think
we
would
push
it
back
enough
where
you
would
really
want
to
see
that.
J
Well,
I'll
leave
you
with
that
comment.
Okay,
again,
I
think
you
might
be
sure
to
unit.
It
seems
like
you've,
got
guest
bedrooms
on
the
southern
and
southwest
corner
of
that
house
and
that's
a
unit
with
a
living
space,
doing
a
lot
of
work
for
that
living
space
and
those
guest
bedrooms
in
we'll
see
how
that
could
be
done
with
one
unit
so
solar
panels.
J
So
I
see
some
of
that
on
some
of
your
drawings,
but
I
don't
know
that
that's
they're
not
shown
now
with
any
tilt
or
angle
or
stanchions
or
rails
or
anything,
and
I
have
a
fear
that
that's
a
bit
of
a
pipe
dream,
how
they're
being
shown
now
flat
on
the
roof,
and
so
a
couple
questions
are
like
what
is
there?
Is
that
really
the
limit
of
solar
panels?
There's
only
six
for
the
project
or
they're
50.
J
H
Sorry,
chris,
I
hadn't
noticed
that
you
had
that
called
as
gray.
I
think
gray.
A
light
gray
is
reasonable
to
me
something
most
of
the
rock
in
that
area.
You
know,
there's
some
some
of
the
areas
in
the
neighborhood
that
have
a
lot
of
rust
and
a
lot
of
iron
in
the
rock,
but
in
that
particular
stretch
it's
pretty
light
gray.
J
I've
seen
light
gray
up
there
and
it
has
worked
pretty
well
but
wouldn't
mind
seeing
a
color
sample
of
it.
There's
some
light
grays
out
there
that
don't
work
very
well
and
and
some
grays
that
are
a
bit
more
medium
cool
gray
that
work
a
little
better
than
a
light
to
white
gray,
no
problem
trash
enclosure
that
that
seems
pretty
critical
to
me
to
show
that
and
plan
for
that
and
allow
for
that.
That
driveway
is,
is
minding
a
couple
of
setbacks
there
and
there's
room
for
it.
J
C
C
H
J
J
A
A
A
How
big
does
that
gutter
need
to
be
to
carry
all
of
the
water
off
of
these
big
roofs
to
just
four
or
five
downspout
and
chain?
While
I
take
it
back,
there's
maybe
eight
downspout
chains,
but
I
just
think
it's
a
an
item
that
needs
to
be
addressed
more
specifically
because
that
could
definitely
affect
the
size
of
your
fascias
and
the
look
of
the
roof
on
this
house.
A
A
J
A
Any
opposed,
and
I'd
like
to
make
a
comment
to
the
applicant
that
we
didn't
really
talk
about.
I
think
it's
a
great
project.
I
think
we're
just
trying
to
make
it
better.
I
like
the
materials
I
like
the
massing
I
like
where
it's
going.
We
just
need
some
more
details
to
really
make
sure
we're
you're
going
to
build
what
you
really
want.
H
Thank
you,
tom
and
sean.
I
appreciate
that
comment.
Can
I
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity,
so
we'll
have
a
list
and
again.
Obviously
this
is
the
first
time
I've
gone
through
something
like
this.
So
it's
new
to
me.
The
list
will
be
what
we
need
to
address
and
I
guess
I'm.
This
is
an
end
around
way
of
specifically
asking
the
question
about
the
garage,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
past
that
before
we
work
on
some
of
these
other
details,
I
think
that's.
C
J
J
J
F
I
had
one
thought
about
the
garage
and
looking
at
the
site
plan.
You
know
it
looks
like
they
just
kind
of
drew
the
driveway
straight
from
the
garage
to
the
street
and
if
there's
any
ability
in
there,
since
they
had
the
garage
not
exactly
parallel
to
the
street,
but
to
bring
it
in
on
the
side,
and
maybe
it
curves
down
towards
the
garage,
and
that
would
allow
them
to
put
some
kind
of
you
know
it's
not
a
straight
visual
barrier
in,
but
they
are
some
landscape
areas
that
would
kind
of
soften.
J
J
F
H
H
H
E
A
I
don't
think
you'd
want
to
put
anything
in
there
because
then
the
curve
gets
to
be
too
steep.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
solution
here
that
you've
got
a
gentle
curve
to
it
and
some
area
for
some
good-sized
landscaping
between
the
driveway
and
the
entry
walkway,
and
that
will
really
screen
that
door.
J
H
J
And
the
hoa
requirements
are
written
in
a
way
where
they
would
prefer.
Everybody's
garage
doesn't
face
the
street,
but
it's
it's
challenging
out
there
and
it's
not
possible
to
do
on
every
lot
there
and
yeah.
I
think
doing
a
little
bit
more
might
help
that
a
little
bit
and
I
don't.
I
don't
really
have
a
problem
with
it,
but
be
open
to
what
other
folks
say.
A
H
A
Hey.
Thank
you
also.
Chris
item
number
five
979
gene
autry
llc
who's,
the
property
owner,
for
I
don't
know
how
to
pronounce
it,
I'm
going
to
say:
hakate
energy
desert
storage,
one
llc
for
a
major
architectural
application
for
landscaping
and
perimeter
perimeter
wall
design
for
the
development
of
a
20
megawatt
battery
storage
facility
in
a
leased
area
on
the
south
southern
end
of
a
larger
developed
3.6
acre
site
located
at
979
south
gene
entry
trail.
A
E
Screen
that
you
can
see
the
yes,
okay,
all
right,
so
the
the
project,
as
you
mentioned,
is
hakate
energy
desert
storage.
They
are
proposing
to
do
to
a
20
megawatt
battery
storage
facility
in
a
2836
square
foot,
leased
area.
So
the
area
that
that
they're
asking
for
is
currently
part
of
the
southwest
boulder
and
landscape
supply
at
the
corner
of
gene
autry
and
mesquite.
E
E
So
when
the
planning
commission
reviewed
the
project,
they
had
some
recommendations
to
the
aac
and
one
is
that
the
ground
cover
be
a
minimum
of
three
eighths
gravel.
Instead
of
of
decomposed
granite,
they
wanted
a
climbing
vine
or
plant
that
would
go
on
the
wall
that
would
soften
and
they
are
requested
that
the
arc
review
that
or
give
the
applicant
suggestions
and
that
street
trees
be
a
36
inch
box
size.
E
E
I
have
a
series
of
photo
simulations
of
what
the
project
looks
like
it's.
A
series
of
13
containers
that
you'll
see
here
they
are
set
back
far
from
gene
autry
trail.
We've
worked
with
the
applicant
to
move
them
away
from
the
street
so
that
they
are
more
screened,
so
they
contain
a
battery
container,
which
is
53
feet
long,
a
transformer
and
then
a
switch
gear
enclosure.
E
So,
looking
at
this
other
simulation,
it
shows
the
eisenhower
substation,
which
this
basically
is.
When
the
grid
is
producing
over
overproducing
power,
it
will
flow
into
the
battery
storage
and
then,
when
the
grid
needs
power,
it
will
exit
out
of
the
batteries
and
be
supplied
to
the
eisenhower
substation
for
the
sce
grid.
So
in
looking
at
the
other
corners
of
the
lot
across
the
street
to
the
south
east
is
a
storage
unit
facility
and
we
have
some
other
photo
sims
for
that
a
vacant
lot
and
then
the
substation
here.
E
E
E
There's
a
site
plan
in
your
packet
showing
how
the
units
are
set,
32
feet
off
of
the
property
line
and
the
dashed
black
line
is
a
masonry
wall
that
will
encircle
the
perimeter
of
the
project
and
then
a
chain
link
fence
with
three
slider
gates
to
gain
access
into
the
site.
Staff
worked
with
them
to
return
the
wall
so
that
when
you
drive
down
june
autry
trail,
it
provides
some
screening.
E
This
is
a
closer
view
of
the
sliders.
The
sliding
gate
and
the
chain
link
fence
along
the
north
property
line
once
again
is
a
photo
simulation
of
what
it
will.
Look
like
you'll
notice
that
there
are
street
trees
around
the
perimeter.
There's
an
area
on
the
inside
of
the
of
the
utility
yard
that
will
be
remain
landscape
free
now
onto
some
simulations
simulations
of
what
the
corner
will
look
like:
you'll
notice
that
there's
a
series
of
agaves
and
low
lantana
and
other
plants
that
will
enhance
the
corner.
E
E
So
there's
bougainvillea
and
other
types
of
plant
plantings,
boulders
and
rocks
along
the
frontage
you'll
notice
that
in
this
slide
the
wall
has
pilasters
with
caps
and
then
a
detail
of
some
of
the
precision
blocks
are
protrude
out,
providing
shade
and
relief,
and
then
others
are
other
sections
of
the
wall.
Are
the
precision
block
themselves.
E
E
A
F
F
When
I
reviewed
the
plan,
I
I
would
request
whether
we
stick
with
palo
verde's
or
another
variety
that
they
continue
the
trees
further
north
along
gene
audrey
almost
to
the
entrance
where
you
turn
in
because
as
people
are
coming,
south
you'll
still
be
able
to
see
those
container
units.
You
know
as
you're
driving
south
on
gene
autry,
and
I
think
it
would
rather
than
have
that
large
density
of
landscaping
just
around
the
corner
and
starting
where
the
storage
units
are.
A
F
Yeah
and
and
sometimes
it
is
the
summer
watering
or
in
the
form
they
water
in
the
winter
times
too,
they
over
water
and
it
allows
boars
to
get
in,
but
we
could
make
some
suggestions
for
some
other
alternatives.
I
don't
know.
Is
there
any
overhead
wires?
There
that'll
be
connecting
across
david
that
we
have
to
be
aware
of
or
conditions
where
the
trees
can't
get
too
tall.
J
E
And
sabotage
and
stuff
like
that
right,
so
the
the
planning
commission
reviewed
an
environmental
report
that
was
done
and
determined
that
there
was
no
safety
hazards
from
these
battery
storage.
Remember
that
the
arc
is
limited
to
a
certain
review
about
the
landscaping
and
perimeter
walls.
So
some
of
the
items
that
the
planning
commission
requested,
like
they
requested
a
bond,
be
placed
with
the
city
for
removal
of
the
lifespan
of
the
batteries
or
30
years,
and
the
planning
commission
wanted
to
make
sure
that
they
would
be
disposed
of
properly.
E
A
E
E
K
K
A
K
K
D
Yeah,
and
so
what
is
the
little
the
little
circles
with
the
line
that
is
just
a
a
symbol
for
the
chain
link?
Is
that
right?
It
looks
like
that's
what
it
is.
I
see
that
now,
yes,
okay,
my
I'll
ask
the
questions
and
then
I'll
go
back
and
comment.
The
other
question
I
have
is
on
one
of
the
sections
showing
the
storage
unit.
D
That's
page,
one
of
two
e201.
It
shows
the
battery
unit
next
to
the
transformer,
and
the
battery
unit
in
the
stafford
port
gives
a
height
of
nine
foot
ten.
But
in
that
section
it
looks
like
it's
sitting
on
top
of
some
concrete
piers
of
some
that
sort
that
gives
it
an
additional
height.
So
it's
actually
higher.
Is
it
higher
than
nine
for
ten.
E
A
K
D
Yeah
they
they
look
like
they're
higher
than
that
in
the
section,
but
I'll
I'll
take
your
word
at
it
and
the
units
do
they
come
as
standard
color?
Are
they
gray?
Are
they
white?
I
thought
of
the
staff
report
it
they
came.
It
was
mentioned
that
they
were
painted
white,
but
then,
when
may
john
made
his
presentation,
I
thought
he
said
they
were
gray.
So
I'm
just
curious.
K
D
So
here's
I'll
go
back
to
my
question
about
the
sliding
gates
as
you're
coming
down:
gina
autry
heading
south.
You
have
this
huge
parking
lot
and
that
is
that
whole
that
whole
view
looking
south
is
completely
exposed,
and
I
appreciate
that
you
extended
the
block
wall
of
the
20
feet
into
the
property.
But
I
don't
think
that's
adequate
screening
of
this
and
I
think
in
between
the
gates,
you're
going
to
need
to
do
block
wall,
that
a
chain
link
fence
is
not
going
to
be
adequate.
C
E
I
J
A
E
I
I
could
I
would
guess
that
on
and
we
can
confirm
this,
but
I
would
guess
that
the
sliding
gates
in
those
locations
are
primarily
to
maintain
the
150
foot
hose
full
access
from
those
areas,
so
they
can
enter
and
still
be
able
to
access
those
areas
to
the
west
and
east
of
the
project.
Using
the
150
foot
hose
pole.
D
K
E
E
A
A
question
I
have
for
the
applicant
is
when
I
look
at
the
site
plan.
I
think
I'm
reading
it
right
that
the
entire
site
is
gravel,
there's
no
hard
surface
per
se,
no
paving
it's
all
gravel
in
an
area
like
this.
Where
there's
a
lot
of
sand
blown
sand
and
wind,
the
gravel
is
going
to
just
get
covered
up
by
the
sand,
which
you
can
see
directly
across
the
street
at
the
edison
substation,
that
their
gravel
is
a
mess.
A
I
J
J
This
area
over
here
that's
a
lot
of
gravel,
as
as
I
look
at
the
landscape
plan
and
there
was
a
rendering
or
two
that
show
view,
particularly
in
this
direction,
from
a
street
corner
where
a
lot
of
people
enter
town
as
they're
coming
from
the
east
towards
the
west,
and
they
get
hung
up
at
that
light.
There's
two.
G
A
I
J
K
Let's,
let's
clarify:
let's
clarify
that
so
in
the
center
of
the
project
is
the
switch
gear
and
that's
anticipated
to
be
the
tallest
portion
of
the
project.
The
two
smaller
containers
on
the
south
side
of
the
larger
actual
storage
units
are
an
inverter
and
a
transformer,
and
those
are
the
shortest
components
of
the
project.
So.
K
A
K
Originally,
what
we
did
was
we
had
the
the
storage
units
closer
to
the
road
and
basically
the
layout
flipped,
but
because
they're
shorter,
we,
we
moved
the
we
flipped
the
layout.
Basically
I
guess
I
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying
about
moving
the
wall
and
allowing
more
landscaping,
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
that
would
achieve
other
than
just
us
planning
more
landscaping,
because
if,
if
we're
building
a
wall
already
and
we're
building,
you
know
a
long,
jane
autry
and
we're
extending
the
wall
and
probably
now
extending
it
even
further
to
the
west.
K
J
Yeah
that
one
seems
obvious
to
me
moving
the
wall
and
allowing
for
more
screen
of
the
landscape.
I
thought
I
was
being
pretty
clear
on
that
too.
There's
a
direct
view
in
a
giant
hole
here
at
a
major
intersection
where
most
people
are
traveling,
westbound
from
dinosaur
or
northbound
coming
from
111
and
cutting
through
and
taking
gene
autry
north.
A
And
glenn,
could
you
put
put
up
the
aerial
photograph
that
includes
as
much
of
the
substation
as
we
can
see?
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
see
it
in
this.
One
look
how
their
wall
is
staggered
with
breaks
in
the
wall
and
instead
of
one
long,
two
hundred
and
something
foot
long
wall,
it's
in
sections
that
step
forward
and
step
back.
I
think
it
would
be
really
nice
if
that
was
what
happens
to
that
wall
along
mesquite
avenue.
A
So
there
are
portions
that
could
certainly
be
brought
closer
to
the
curb
and
create
a
staggering
effect
of
the
surface
of
the
face
of
the
wall,
and
you
can
see
how
they
did
their
corner
here.
You
know
that
that's
exactly
what
we're
talking
about
that
the
wall
pulls
back
into
the
site
and
then
you
can
get
your
landscaping
that's
out
of
the
view
corridor
on
the
corner,
yeah.
J
I
I
A
A
J
And-
and
I
wonder
so
that
was
going
to
be
my
comment
also
that
this
rigidity-
it
just
looks
it,
there's
nothing
natural
looking
about
it,
and
I
don't
know
that
as
we've
just
looked
at
that
previous
aerial,
the
one
prior
to
this,
it
seemed
to
show
that
the
neighbors
projects
look
a
bit
more
naturalized
and
not
so
rigid
in
their
placement.
Okay,
you
could
argue
this
guy
didn't
do
that
along
right
here,
but
at
least
there's
some
variation
of
what's
going
on
around
it,
and
it's
not
quite
so
obvious.
J
J
Happens
along
this
guy,
I'm
not
claiming
this
to
be
beautiful
landscape
in
front
of
the
public
storage
area
here,
but
I
think
if
we,
if
we
could
do
something
like
that,
where
there
was
a
little
more
staggering
and
grouping
of
trees
and
sorry
glenn,
can
I
ask
you
to
jump
back
to
that
other
slide
yep?
So
I
think
what
tom's
saying
is:
maybe
some
portions
of
this
wall
instead
of
being
here.
F
Okay,
I
like
that
idea,
and
I
think
the
idea
of
a
couple
different
varieties
of
trees
would
be
good
just
so
we
didn't
get
into
that
problem
of
disease
or
anything
and
even
looking
at
the
street
across
they
at
the
edison
they've
used
some
large
olive
trees
and
so
another
good
screening
tree
in
place
of
the
so
they
could
actually
use
the
olive
trees
as
accents
belonging
there
and
another
good
screening
trees.
That
would
give
some
dense
screaming.
F
Our
screening
is
the
texas
ebony
tree,
the
pithosium
flexicalis,
and
that
maintains
a
dark,
green
evergreen
tree
and
it's
manageable
and
growth,
and
then
the
olive
trees
could
be
the
accent
trees.
So
I
think
there
is
some
opportunity,
and
even
in
that
open
area
sean
like
you
mentioned
earlier,
where
the
big
gravel
void
is,
you
know,
there's
a
way
to
get
some
trees
back
there.
So
you
have
that
layering
effect.
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
as
well.
J
J
K
That's
outside
of
our
lease
area,
we're
limited
to
the
box
that
that
glenn
showed
you
the
28
000
square
feet.
I
don't
know
that
the
landowners
are
are
going
to
allow
that
that's
a
pretty
pretty
long
area.
I
mean
eyeballing
it
it's.
You
know
what
40
feet,
I'm
taking
up
additional
traditional
land
from
them.
J
K
Right
here,
you're
also
you're
also
blocking
the
visibility
of
their
business.
You
know
I
mean
this
is
a.
We
have
to
coexist
right,
our
project
has
to
exist
on
on
their
land
and
they
have
to
be
able
to
operate
their
business
and
continue
to
be
profitable
right.
So
you're
asking
us
to
basically
block
the
visibility
of
their
business.
J
Well,
this
will
come
up
sooner
or
later
anyway,
and
I'm
going
to
ask
if
this
is
a
code
enforcement
issue,
because
I
can
guarantee
you
that
this
original
landscape
plan
for
this
building
wasn't
open.
100,
open
landscaping
right
here,
so
I
don't
think
we're
asking
you
to
block
their
business
or
100
coverage
along
this
island
here.
But
I
mean
I
would
say
that
there
could
be
some
compromise
and
some
screening
of
of
a
few
vignettes
there
that
might
might
help
screen
that
parking
lot.
I
Would
we
be
able
to
achieve
the
same
goal
of
at
least
screening
our
project
by
wrapping
our
landscaping
and
wall
around
the
corner,
as
we
have
planned,
but
just
add
more
interest,
as
opposed
to
just
because
it's
outside
of
the
purview
of
our
project?
In
terms
of
we
have
no
site
control
of
that
area?
Hecate
does
not
that's
it's
where,
as
he
as
james
mentioned,
we're
limited
to
the
rectangle
that
we
have
that
they
have
leased
in
this
area.
So
it's
I
think
it
would
be.
K
J
I
J
I
That's
yeah
that
one
right
there,
you
can
see
that
it's
not
highly
visible
going
in
with
the
existing
landscaping.
These
are
recent
photos
that
were
taken
that
we
used
for
the
renderings.
You
can
see
that
you
can't
really
see
past
the
past
the
existing
landscaping.
That's
here
right
right
now,
so
if
we
were
to
kind
of
dress.
A
I
I
It's
yeah
farther
south
towards
the
facility,
basically,
where
the,
where
the
short
short
shrubs
are
where
there's
appears
to
be
grasses
yeah
in
that
area.
If
we
can
plant
plant
going
wrapping
into
our
facility
in
that
area,
where
you
can
see
like
a
piece
of
happy
equipment,
I
think
right
there,
somewhere
behind
those
plants,
yeah
right
in
there
all
through
there
from
the
corner
of
our
perimeter
wall
all
the
way
in
through
there.
If
we
were
to
plant.
J
No,
I
get
what
you're
saying
so
you're
saying
you'd
bring
landscaping
up
through
here.
What
I
don't
think
this
is
nicely
represented
like
this
is
shrub
material
and
yeah.
It's
slightly
overgrown
and
hasn't
been
trimmed
in
a
little
while,
but
it's
not
a
tree
or
a
screen
tree.
It's
just
shrub
material.
It's
like
somebody
standing
there
for
a
minute
while
a
car
goes
by
and
it's
blocking
the
view
in
there
like
the
reality
is
that
it's
not
really
blocking
that
view
into
there.
J
A
I
I
think,
maybe
our
solution
I
mean
I
can
totally
understand
that
this
land
is
not
part
of
their
lease.
Maybe
we
could
ask
staff
to
check
with
code
enforcement
to
see
if
separate
from
this
project,
if
the
landowner
for
the
rest
of
it
needs
to
enhance
and
replace
landscaping.
That
should
be
there.
That
has
disappeared
over
the
years.
K
I'm
getting
I'm
getting
that
and
I
agree
with
you.
I
actually
really
like
the
idea
of
staggering
the
wall
and
staggering
the
landscape.
I
think
that
that's
cool,
where
I
am
where
I
have
a
little
bit
of
trouble,
is
extending
the
landscaping
up
to
the
north.
So
if
a
good
next
step
is
for
glenn
to
to
do
his
research,
then
I'm
fine
with
that.
D
Yeah
just
another
comment
on
the
screening
on
the
north
side.
If
we
decide
to
go
put
the
condition
of
having
the
black
walls
extend
along
that
north,
that
north
property
line
I'll
call
it
where
the
gates
are,
they
too
need
to
have
some
sort
of
screening
on
them,
because
it's
just
chain
link
you're,
going
to
still
see
right
into
it.
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
as
a
condition
as
well.
E
A
E
J
But
I
also
do
wonder,
though,
like
if
there's
a
fixture
there
as
I'm
just
I
was
looking
at
the
legend
and
didn't
see
those
card
sheets
a
minute
ago,
but
I
look
at
the
lumens
and
some
of
these
there's
4
4779
lumens
with
these
taller.
You
know
the
ones
mounted
on
the
10
inch
arm,
even
the
ones
with
not
a
ton
of
lumas
there's
2561
limits
and
go
well,
that's
pretty
crazy.
G
J
But
that
seems
challenging
to
hard
to
believe
and-
and
then
I
wondered
like-
is
this
part
of
the
security
plan
that
this
does
need
to
be
lit
up
so
well
I
mean
it's:
it's
not
a
park
or
a
dog
park
for
nighttime
views
like
do.
We
even
really
need
all
these
lights,
or
can
this
thing
be
kept
dark
with
maybe
motion
lights
or
something
so.
K
Motion
lights,
I
think,
could
be
something
we
could
look
into.
I
mean
you're
talking
about
you,
know
50
million
dollars
worth
of
equipment.
So
it
does.
You
know
of
some
form,
but
we
can
look
at
the
lighting
plan
that
we
have
is
conceptual,
so
feedback
is
welcome.
We
can
look
at
motion
lighting.
I
can
check
with
our
asset
management
group,
to
understand
what
we're
what
we're
doing
at
other
projects
in
terms
of
lighting.
J
Okay,
yeah,
like
I
wonder,
if
even
the
height
of
it,
unless
it's
a
security
issue,
and
it
just
being
so
tall
on
a
post,
makes
it
more
tamper
proof
for
you.
That
would
make
sense,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I,
if
it
didn't,
need
to
be
lit
or
draw
attention
to
itself
at
times
it
that
might
be
nicer
and
better
received.
D
I
can
try.
Okay,
I
moved
to
approve
with
the
following
conditions
along
mesquite.
The
perimeter
wall
is
staggered
and
the
landscaping
revisited
so
that
there's
a
more
natural
naturalized,
looking
clustering
of
trees
and
plant
material,
the
corner
is
cut
back
at
the
corner
of
gene
autry
and
mesquite
again
to
achieve
better
and
higher
landscaping.
C
J
I
wanted
to
piggyback
on
that
with
just
the
when
we
talked
about
the
more
than
one
species
of
the
tree.
Can
we
can
we
expand
on
the
landscape
plan
and
show
more
than
one
size
of
tree,
so
they
don't
all
come
in
at
the
same
height
and
create
almost
the
same
vertical
effect
as
what
we
were
seeing
in
the
plan
view
effect
there
of
them
just
being
all
strictly
regimented.
It
would
have
a
much
more
natural.
F
A
F
B
A
A
J
B
B
We
have
a
lot
of
comments
about
racket
club
generally,
whether
it's
the
westerly
end
or
the
speed
along
everything
west
of
feral,
so
we're
evaluating
it
as
part
of
the
general
plan
update
and
the
circulation
element,
so
we're
looking
at
a
variety
of
options
for
for
racket
club.
I
guess
that's
the
point
yeah
it's
it's
an
ongoing
discussion.
I
think.
D
J
That's
what
I,
where
I'm
going
with,
that
robin
robert
is,
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
talk,
but
I
don't
see
any
real
plan
or
implementation.
So
I'm
wondering
what
what
would
be
the
next
step
or
how
something
like
that
could
get
pushed
along.
It
seems
to
be.
I
mean
it's
not
only
the
neighborhood
that's
there,
but
and
it's
obviously
there
was
desert.
J
Powell
says
that
the
at
the
top
of
the
hill
there-
and
it
feels
like
that
corridor,
including
the
that
sort
of
deceleration
jogging,
that
there
was
a
little
bit
of
that
that
maybe
that
helped
a
tiny
bit,
but
not
a
lot,
and
now
that
that's
become
in
use
for
a
little
bit.
It's
also
started
to
deteriorate
and
dilapidate
a
bit
to
me,
and-
and
now
it's
almost
like-
I
don't
know
if
it
made
it
worse.
The
drive
is
you're
going
to
or
fro
up
there,
but
it's
not
pretty.
D
D
Was
the
first
one
which
was
the
uglier
and
but
the
curves
were
much
more
extreme
and
it
did
reduce
the
traffic
significantly,
but
not
down
to
25
miles
an
hour.
The
second
one
was
a
response
to
complaints
by
the
neighbors
that
lost
parking
along
record
club,
and
so
that's
what's
in
place
now,
and
they
did
another
speed
study
which
I
just
mentioned,
and
so
we're
still
pushing
to
get
the
traffic
circles.
We
think.
C
D
B
B
B
We
still
plan
to
go,
live
with
the
fully
digital
packet
and
not
deliver
hard
copy
packets
in
the
future,
but
technology
being
the
way
that
you
know
things
go
when
you
try
and
implement
a
new
enterprise
system,
it
does
take
some
additional
time,
sometimes
so
we're
still
working
through
that.
So
I
just
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
that
is
still
in
the
works
and
we
still
plan
to
go
live
with
that.
It's
just
not
ready
this
month.
J
At
the
top
there's
that
pull
down
and
if
you
just
click
on
annotate,
you
can
change
the
color
of
your
pen
and
and
it'll
just
follow
your
cursor
and
it's
not
super
smart.
If
glenn
or
somebody
moves
the
presentation.
Unfortunately,
your
your
markings
stay
right
where
they
were,
and
you
have
to
remember
to
clear
it,
which
I
get
yelled
at
by
people
in
my
office.
All
the
time.