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From YouTube: Public Arts Commission | Sep 20, 2023
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Regular meeting of the City of Palm Springs Public Arts Commission, held September 20th, 2023.
A
B
B
C
C
E
C
C
This
time
has
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
Palm
Springs
public
Arts
Commission
on
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
agenda
items
if
the
member
of
the
public
cannot
be
present
later
in
the
meeting
at
the
time.
The
item
is
heard
by
the
commission.
Additionally,
members
of
the
public
May
address
the
commission
on
each
item
listed
on
the
posted
agenda
at
the
time.
Each
item
is
heard.
C
F
F
Thank
you,
I'm
the
artists
for
the
Palm
Springs
against
Mario,
sculpture
and
I,
wanted
to
read
a
statement.
That's
been
prepared
by
myself
and
the
task
force
the
Palm
Springs
AIDS
Memorial
task.
Excuse
me.
The
postings,
8th,
Memorial
Sculpture
task
force
has
worked
tirelessly
over
the
last
eight
years
to
ensure
that
the
lives
of
those
lost
to
AIDS
and
HIV
are
never
forgotten
and
their
memories
celebrated
with
approvals
from
the
Palm
Springs,
Arts,
commission
and
city
council.
F
The
task
force
will
be
able
to
get
the
iconic
and
Monumental
Memorial
Sculpture
to
the
city
of
Palm
Springs,
a
project
like
the
AIDS
Memorial
Sculpture
must
incorporate
the
many
voices,
memories
and
emotions
of
so
many
people,
both
those
that
are
living
and
those
that
are
no
longer
with
us
part
of
the
process
of
creating
a
project
of
this
magnitude.
Okay
is
to
share
the
progress
of
a
design
with
the
public.
F
This
process
is
crucial
to
the
long-term
success
and
acceptance
of
the
project
by
the
community.
It's
during
this
Public
Presentation
period
that
the
discussions
that
have
occurred
amongst
the
task
force
members
are
expanded
to
include
thousands
of
voices
each
with
their
own
opinions,
ideas
and
thoughts.
F
The
recently
publicized
concerns,
as
well
as
the
multitude
of
comments,
both
positive
and
constructive,
from
people
over
our
last
year
of
public
events
and
fundraising
are
in
line
with
our
own
Impressions
and
concerns.
People
have
loved
the
memorial
design
and
others
have
been
offended
by
it
to
those
offended
by
it.
The
task
force
and
myself
apologize.
F
It
was
never
our
intent
to
disrespect
anyone
having
worked
on
projects
in
the
public
realm
over
the
last
20
years,
I've
learned
that
great
design
happens
through
listening,
adapting
and
realigning.
Accordingly.
For
months
now,
we
have
been
working
on
new
iterations
of
the
original
design.
Making
certain
that
appropriate
shifts
to
the
design
are
made
that
honor
original
intentions,
while
directly
addressing
people's
number
one
concern.
F
We
view
these
new
iterations
as
part
of
the
design
process
and
believe
that
we
are
continually
moving
forward
towards
a
final
Memorial
Sculpture
that
ensures
those
lost
to
AIDS
and
HIV
are
forever
respected
and
never
forgotten.
While
we
are
diligently
working
through
the
design
revision
process,
we
know
that
it
will
be
impossible
to
create
a
Memorial
Sculpture
that
100
of
the
community
will
like.
That
is
the
reality
of
an
artwork
in
the
public
realm.
F
Please
know
that
your
voice
has
been
heard
that
we
have
already
been
working
on
new
iterations
in
the
memorial
of
the
Memorial
Sculpture,
and
we
look
forward
to
sharing
the
next
iteration
of
the
community
later
this
year.
We
hope
the
process
moves
forward,
with
the
spirit
of
constructive
conversation,
understanding
and
respect
for
all
involved.
Thank.
G
H
Right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Christopher.
I
am
a
interdisciplinary
artist
living
and
working
here
in
Palm,
Springs
California
I
am
also
the
co-founder
of
a
contemporary
Center
for
the
Arts
that
you
made
or
may
not
have
heard
of,
and
that's
why
I'm
here
to
introduce
the
elemental?
The
elemental
is
located
off
of
Bella
Road
right
here
by
the
airport.
H
The
elemental
is
a
partnership
with
upon
destination,
which
is
from
Paris
France,
which
is
Under
the
Umbrella
of
Institute
of
products.
This
is
a
collaboration
with
my
non-profit
at
Center
projects.
We
just
started
in
2014
and
essentially
our
mission
is
to
bridge
our
science
and
environment
together
and
also
serve
as
a
bridge
of
international
artists
coming
into
Palm
Springs.
Vice
versa,
artists
from
Southern
California,
going
in
to
Europe
Paris
Etc.
H
We
have
an
opening
deception
coming
up,
November
17th,
which
is
dedicated
to
palm
tree.
But
it's
a
dinner
take
and
I
hope
you
can
come
by
I
can
get
more
information,
postcard
flyers
or
whatever
it
is
coming
up
soon.
So
that's
coming
on
November
17th
and
on
top
of
that,
I
wanted
to
see
the
potential
of
some
type
of
collaboration
or
support
from
the
Commission
in
relationship
to
the
public
programming
that
the
elemental
has
already
provided.
H
Yeah
well
at
a
pain
in
the
past,
but
to
look
into
the
future
and
see
if
there's
ways
in
which
we
can
expand
public
programming
in
ways
that
would
sustain
us
on
some
levels
of
just
having
additional
hours
open
that
are
guaranteed
for
the
public
to
see
our
exhibitions.
Speaking
with
some
faculty
at
the
Palm
Springs
Unified
School
District
as
well
collaborating
with
some
of
the
students
in
the
area
and
having.
I
D
C
We
are
in
a
challenging
time
in
our
society.
There
is
this
sort
of
cultural
divide
politically
and
culturally
and
economically
and
structurally
we're
in
this
really
weird
time
in
the
world
right
now
and
yet
the
commonality
that
I
see
things
that
can
come
together
is
art.
Art
can
bring
people
together
in
many
many
ways.
C
The
challenge
that
we
face
as
a
commission
is
the
big
important
pieces
of
artwork
take
time.
So
right
now
they
mentioned
the
ace
Memorial,
which
had
started
in
early
2021
to
get
the
design
done.
It
was
presented
to
the
Arts
Commission
in
June
of
2021.
It
was
approved
by
Council
in
September
of
2021.
They
then
did
the
fundraising
and
they're
near
the
fundraising,
and
then
the
community
saw
it
and
the
community
had
a
responsive
reaction
to
it
and
respect
both
sides.
C
We
have
some
other
projects
coming
up
that
are
long
time,
projects
that
are
challenging
as
well.
One
of
them
is
on
the
agenda
for
tonight
that
we
have
to
discuss.
So
this
is
just
way
to
say
that
you
know
we
are.
This
is
not
just
let's
pick
a
color
and
prove
a
design.
These
are
really
projects
that
are
also
affecting
people's
lives
and
that
people
feel
represent
them
and
that's
the
benefit
and
the
beauty
and
the
challenge
of
being
a
public
Arts.
C
I
I
I
think
that's
great,
that
they're
open
to
feedback
and
that's
certainly
appropriate.
Of
course.
You
hope
with
these
type
of
projects
that
the
end
result
is
something
that
the
whole
Community
can
really
get
behind
and
appreciate
and
I
have
no
doubt
that
the
task
force
from
the
very
beginning
had
the
best
of
intentions
and
and
and
did
elicit
wide-ranging
feedback
on.
A
J
A
I
Want
to
acknowledge,
you
know
the
years
of
work
that
they've
already
put
into
this
project
and
and
the
and
the
work
that
they're
going
to
be
doing
going
forward.
The
public
Arts
commission
supported
the
project
by
setting
aside
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
for
the
memorials
installation
in
the
downtown
park
and
I
hope
to
see
more
discussions
about
the
memorial
and
its
eventual
unveiling
in
the
park
before
too
long.
So
thank
you
right.
D
Chester
chair,
thank
you.
If
I
could
just
read
a
few
more
Corrections
for
these
minutes
for
September
21,
2022,
October,
19,
2022
and
November
16
2022,
the
public
order
date
will
be
corrected
to
show
that
it's
2022
not
2023
for
July
20th
2022,
the
spelling
for
Cindy
Karen's
name,
will
be
corrected
and
for
May
18
2022
under
report
from
director.
Michael
bronze
name
will
be
corrected
to
be
drawn
and
not
Brown.
C
A
I
C
Sent
a
comment
around
that
you
can,
you
can
vote
even
if
you
were
not
part
of
the
meetings
based
on
trust
in
the
system
and
trusting
reporting
and
Trust
of
the
people
who
were
present,
who
have
approved
the
minutes
and
it's
in
Industry
standard.
Frankly,
because
people
turn
in
and
out
of
the
commission.
D
D
C
E
C
This
is
considered
resolution
23-001
a
resolution
of
public
Arts
commission,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
California,
approving
a
mural
application
for
quote:
Whimsical
mid-century
Palm
Springs
from
Canyon
fund
LLC
by
flat
black
Supply,
located
on
the
East
parking
lot
facing
elevation
of
the
perimeter
wall
at
310
to
320,
North,
Palm,
Canyon,
Drive
case
23-001mur
and
Jay.
Do
you
have
anything
to
show
us.
D
Here
what
you
see
on
the
screen
is
a
proposal
for
a
mural
located
at
310
320
North
Palm,
Canyon
Drive,
it's
at
the
river
of
the
building
facing
the
parking
lot,
which
is
Facing
East.
It's
entitled
principal
mid-century,
Palm
Springs
and
will
be
about
20
feet
tall
60
feet
wide,
total
1200
square
feet.
The
application
for
the
mural
was
submitted
to
the
planning
department
on
July.
14Th
notices
were
sent
to
Property
Owners
within
500
square
foot,
radius
from
the
mural
site.
D
C
D
G
No
as
a
the
symbol
answer,
your
question
is
no:
it's
not
intended
as
any
marketing
technique
for
businesses
or
locations
for
anything
else.
I
think,
as
we
all
know,
nothing
is
permanent
either
in
our
society
and
in
our
economy.
I,
don't
know
over
the
life
of
this
mural
whether
these
businesses
will
continue
to
exist
or
continue
to
exist
in
the
locations
that
they've
been
identified,
but
it's
intended
to
just
be.
C
Jay
is
there
any
legal
issue,
putting
somebody's
name
in
a
private
mural?
If
they're
not,
can
you
look
into
that?
Yes
yeah
just
that
would
be
my
hesitation.
If
somebody
says
I
don't
want
to
be
on
there
and
you
know,
for
example,
I
know.
Rooster
and
pig
is
talking
about
moving
already,
but
that's
beside
the
point
and
I
definitely.
J
C
G
C
So
they
have
a
few,
have
rights
to
this
artwork
right,
okay,
great
I,
would
my
other
comment
would
be
make
sure
that
everything
is
spelled
correctly.
I
think
Ramon
road
is
spelled
incorrectly
on
there,
but
my
main
concern
is
just
rights
to
the
names
and
I.
Don't
think
you
need
to
go
out
and
solicit
hey,
you
want
to
be
part
of
our
mural
I
would
if
I
were
the
tribe
or
if
I
were
cheekies
I
would
just
want
to
know
you're
using
my
name
and
the
season.
C
J
G
Yes,
definitely,
you
know
I
think
it's
incumbent
to
try
and
recognize
conscience,
history
and
all
of
that
in
the
application.
I
thought
was
just
a
chrome
kind
of
zeitgeist
or
things
that
in
our
current
Consciousness
and
everything
else,
but
by
all
means
I'm.
A
lifelong
resident
of
the
Coachella
Valley
was
born
and
raised
out
here.
So
you
know
we're
trying
to.
We
want
to
try
and
incorporate
all
those
things
as
we
can
it'll
be
an
important
to
our
community
yeah.
C
I
Another
image
that
we
had
in
the
application
had
it
was
a
larger
piece
and
so
because
of
the
size
of
the
mural
part
of
it
is
being
cut
off,
and
so
we're
missing,
like
the
whole
south
side
of
the
city.
I,
would
really
love
it
if
it
showed,
you
know
the
whole
geographic
area
of
of
the
city,
you
might
also
want
to
like
reposition
the
tram
further
north.
Just
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
accurate
and
similar
to
commissioner
bevo's
comments.
K
I
G
B
I
was
just
gonna
say:
I
am
familiar
with
that
building
I
do
think
it
would
bring
a
lot
of
great
attention
on
that
inside,
which
is
great,
there's
a
lot
of
Entry
wall
space,
so
any
more
color
but
yeah
I
think
my
Comics
do.
Align
with
the
rest
of
the
board.
Here
is
just
maybe
a
little
bit
of
tweaks
I
guess
maybe
to
have
a
little
bit
more
accuracy
and
a
little
spelling
errors
like
that.
Yeah.
C
My
last
comment
is-
and
you
know
we
deal
with
a
lot
of
murals
and
fading-
this
will
be
Facing,
East
I
believe
so
you'll
get
that
heavy
Morning
Sun
directly
on
it
and
that
Peach
background
will
fade
very
quickly.
So
you
won't
be
able
to
read
Palm
Springs
against
that
white,
so
you
may
want
to
consider
your
palate
and
maybe
do
Palm
Springs
and
a
stronger
color
just
so
that,
because
I
understand
the
point
is
to
show
how
great
Palm
Springs
is.
C
G
We've
spoken
or
I've
spoken
with
flat
black
who's
done,
murals
throughout
Palm
Springs
in
the
crocodile
Valley,
so
they're
familiar
with
that
and
right,
the
sealant
of
the
paint
that
they'll
use
yeah
to
make
sure
that
it
has
a
lasting
purpose
to
it.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
highlight
too
is
this
is
intended
to
to
just
bring
art
into
the
city.
The
reality
is,
this
is
on
the
back
side
of
the
building
that
faces
the
parking
lot.
G
There's
no
like
true
visibility
into
this
mural
other
than
people
that
are
walking
on
a
Model,
maybe
going
to
Village,
Fest
or
otherwise.
So
it's
a
completely
unused
portion
that
just
faces
the
Palm
Springs
life
building
in
the
building's
parking
lot,
but
you
know
my
thought
is,
and
my
thought
is
to
continue
to
enhance
and
be
vibrant
for
our
community
and
we've
already
done
a
lot
of
things
for
the
building.
But
let
me
try-
and
just
you
know.
C
Add
a
little
bit
of
Beauty
in
the
space
and
we
appreciate
that
Jay
when
you
look
into
the
if
the
names
have
to
get
approval,
perhaps
it's
the
simplest
just
indemnifying
the
city.
If
there
are
any
people
who
complain
as
part
of
the
agreement
that
you'll
take
responsibility
for
removing
them
and
putting
another
one
in
there,
and
so
the
city
is
not
responsible
for
that.
B
B
L
Please
state
your
name
hi.
My
name
is
Brett
Stevens
I'm,
a
local
artist
here
I
was
born
here,
not
something
really
crazy,
I'm
just
curious,
so
there's
a
lot
of
business
names
on
there,
yeah
and
I'm,
just
thinking
out
of
fairness.
Why
are
certain
ones
on
there
and
maybe
like
what
happens
if
one
of
these
people
go.
L
C
Am
I
allowed
to
answer
him?
Okay,
I
agree,
which
is
my
concern
about
you
know:
are
these
people
who
are
being
left
out?
You
know
it
might
be
nice
to
promote
some
local
businesses
that
maybe
need
the
attention
and
the
best
thing
that
can
happen
is
this
will
be
appearing
and
some
artists
or
some
business
will
say:
I
want
to
be
included
and
they're
added
to
the
map.
C
So
again,
maybe
there's
something
we
can
put
in
there.
Obviously
we
don't
want
to
do
anything.
That's
a
negative
aspect
and
the
the
building
owner
may
not
want
to
put
things
on
there
that
are
antithetical
to
their
business
model
yeah.
So
we
need
to
be
you
know.
Maybe
they
don't
want
anything
with
the
vaping
or
something
like
that.
Yeah
kind.
B
L
D
J
Thank
you.
Just
to
reiterate
with
one
of
our
residents
was
saying.
Maybe
it
might
be
useful
to
do
a
ledger
of
some
kite
on
this,
so
we
don't
have
expenses
running
up
with
having
to
pay
an
artist
each
time
to
change
the
name
or
something
along
those
lines.
These
are
a
couple
of
pitfalls
that
we
have
to
look
ahead
for
and
having
a
Leisure
with
numbers
or
something
and
the
businesses
can
be
added
or
depleted,
or
it
may
be
easier
to
update
the
murals.
Something
like
that.
E
Which
is
it
is
it's
our
work
on
a
building
and
it
and
I
went
online
and
I
was
looking
at
where
it's
being
placed,
and
it's
almost
an
Alleyway
people
aren't
going
to
go
to
this
and
look
at
it
or
as
a
map
for
directions.
I,
just
I,
don't
see
that
happening
I,
you
know.
As
long
as
the
airplane
is
in
relatively
that's,
the
only
thing
people
are
going
to
care
about.
E
Is
that
your
theater
report
and
how
to
get
there
I
I,
think
you
know
it's
a
private,
it's
private
mural
and
from
what
I
understand
what
Jay
said
their
responsible
for
maintaining
it
and
to
me
I
think
it
just
should
be
a
vote
of
approval
or
honor
or
disapproval,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
we
should
have
a
say
in
what
is
going
on
this.
This
mural
at
all
I
mean
that'll,
be
the
the
business
owner's
issue
and
it
may
turn
out
to
be
a
great
thing
for
them
saying
well,
you
know
maybe
I.
E
Off
it,
if
somebody
says
I
want
to
be
on
this
Barrel
kind
of
thing
who
knows
but
right
right
now,
it's
just
it's
such
a
non-visual
place
that
I
think
it's
really
enhancing
what
it
is.
I
I
just
say:
let's
let
the
artist
do
their
thing
and,
and
we
like
we,
let
it
go,
but
I
do
agree.
Historical
things
would
make
sense,
because
those
don't
change.
B
K
And
then
I
also
have
a
question
just
about
voting
I,
don't
super
new
to
the
commission.
So
are
we
voting
on
the
actual
art
itself
or
the
location
and
placement
of
the
mural,
or
what
are
we
actually
voting
on?
If
there
are
things
that
are
then
going
to
be
changed?
Do
we
need
to
come
back
and
revisit
that
vote,
and
what
does
that
look
like?
Oh.
C
C
And
and
the
art,
if
we,
if
we
think
the
art
does
not
represent
Palm
Springs,
we
can,
we
can
say
no,
that
does
not
represent
what
we
think
is
good.
Now
to
to
the
other
point,
we
also
don't
want
to
become
creative
directors
and
say
move
the
plane
up
here
and
do
that
that's
their
decision,
that's
the
artist.
They
chose
my
point
about
saying
that
the
building
names
or
the
restaurant
names
are
legal
issues.
C
I
Yeah
I
would
just
again
encourage
the
artists
and
the
property
owner
to
consider
our
feedback
and
and
go
with
the
spirit
of
encouraging
the
concept
of
the
project
and
being
supportive
of
having
this.
This
fun
beautiful,
mural
on
that
on
that
vacant
wall,
but
yeah
I
hope
that
some
of
our
feedback
is
taken
into
consideration
and
applied
to
it.
Okay,.
C
My
last
comment
is
I
personally
love
these
sort
of
retro
old-fashioned
maps
in
a
way
and
I
think
they
become
this
transport
you
back
to
a
moment
in
time.
So,
even
if
these
restaurants
go
out
of
business,
then
chances
are
they
will
within
two
to
three
years
or
some
other
places
will
pop
up.
If
it's
dated
this
was
done
on
June
20th
2023
that
becomes
part
of
the
artifact
as
well.
C
C
D
That's
up
to
you
Commissioners.
It
can
go
to
council
either
way
with
your
requested
revisions
or
you
could
ask
for
it
to
come
back
to
you
at
Council.
The
council
will
see
it
with
the
revisions.
That
would
be
the
intention.
So,
however,
you
prefer
the
latter,
let's
say
time,
but
if
you
feel
more
comfortable
with
having
it
come
back,
that
is
your
prerogative.
C
I
would
personally
prefer
to
see
some
of
the
revisions
made,
the
the
ones
like
the
spelling
errors
and
stronger
background
color,
because
I
think
those
are
the
things
that
council
could
get
hung
up
on
and
clarification
on.
The
legal
issues
or
indemnification
of
the
name
should
be
considered
as
well.
K
D
B
B
C
Next
items
for
discussion
on
approval
discuss,
improve
additional
funding
for
the
amount
of
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
steel
plays
and
additional
installation
costs
for
the
pop,
our
cart
projects,
which
are
pinwheel,
popsicles
and
lawn
chair.
Let
me
give
you
a
bit
of
background
on
this,
because
this
happened.
When
only
two
of
you
were
on
the
commission,
we
have
approval
from
the
city
to
do
public
art
in
Lot
G,
which
is
downtown
by
the
parking
garage.
C
C
So
what
Jay
and
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
city
building
department
and
what
he
said
we
could
do,
and
it
would
work,
is
to
do
steel
plates,
and
so
we
get
the
steel
plates
that
they
do
when
they're
doing
road
work
and
then
sort
of
weld
in
supports,
so
popsicles
could
go
in
that
and
the
other
pieces
could
be
well
on
that
and
you
put
DG
over
it
because
they're
a
lot
lighter
and
they
can
do
that.
The
benefit
is.
C
We
also
then,
can
move
those
if
we
decide
to
move
the
sculpture,
someplace
else,
and
so
the
artists
are
okay,
with
that
the
popsicle
artist
is
okay
with
you
said:
I
can
make
that
work
and
the
city's
okay
with
it.
But
the
money
that
came
back
is
it's
about
an
additional
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
those
steel
plates
to
be
put
in
there.
C
C
E
C
Be
taking
pictures
by
or
so
popsicles
was
on,
display
on
Sunny
Dunes
road
across
from
County
Maple
in
an
empty
lot
there.
It
was
the
most
instagrammed
piece
of
public
art
in
Palm,
Springs
people
love
it
it's
just
sort
of
big
and
bright
and
over
the
top,
and
it's
pop
art-
and
you
know,
which
is
big
and
bright.
Bigger
versions
of
Lifestyle
lawn
chair
is
a
piece
that
looks
like
a
lawn
chair,
but
it's
covered
with
Astro
curve.
C
So
it's
a
lawn
chair
and
it
was
it's
been
part
of
the
public
art
collection
for
about
15
years.
It's
just
sort
of
moved
around,
so
we're
trying
to
create
a
base
for
it
now
and
pinwheel
again
is
it
was
in
a
private
collection
and
it
was
just
donated,
so
it's
never
really
been
photographed
yet
and
but
I
do
think
that
the
intent
of
putting
these
here
is
twofold,
one
Marilyn.
C
We
don't
anticipate
them
hopping
on
the
launcher,
but
if
they
do
it's,
okay,
it
can
support
them.
Popsicle
is
able
to
stand
in
front
of
and
get
a
picture.
The
other
thing
that
we've
done
with
this
is
we're
trying
to
reorient
the
artwork.
So
when
you
take
your
photo,
it
looks
really
great
behind
it
right,
so
it
will
be
positioned,
so
the
mountains
and
palm
trees
are
behind
us,
so
we're
creating
a
Vista
for
Palm
Springs
or
for
one
of
our
most
popular
pieces.
It
will
look
good
there.
Okay,.
I
B
K
C
C
Okay.
Next
item
is
discuss
inventory
of
our
as
I
mentioned
earlier.
We
have
I,
think
three
or
four
inventories
of
our
artwork.
Now
four
he
said
bear
and
none
of
the
inventories
have
been
updated
since
2016.,
and
each
inventory
has
some
items
on
one
and
not
others
on
the
other,
so
we're
trying
to
create
one
overall
piece,
one
of
the
things
that
Barrett
has
volunteered
to
spearhead
this
I'll.
Let
him
talk
in
a
second,
but
one.
C
C
One
is:
how
is
it
installed
into
the
ground,
because
some
of
the
pieces
do
need
to
be
recited
due
to
environmental
issues
where
the
the
irrigation
is
ruining
them
or
they
need
to
be
moved,
and
so
we
don't
get
into
another
scenario
like
popsicles,
where
who
knew
the
polls
were
36
inches
below
ground,
we
sort
of
know.
Okay.
This
is
how
this
is
installed
and
here's
what
we
need
to
consider
before
we
vote
on
where
we're
going
to
move
it
to
the
other.
C
One
is
whoever's
doing
the
the
inventory
review
is
you
need
to
look
at
it
in
terms
of
if
it
needs
to
be
repaired
and
any
repairs
that
need
to
be
done
and,
as
you
do,
the
repair
assessment
or
audit
that
will
guide
how
we
move
forward
during
repair
for
certain
things,
for
example
the
totem
pole
in
Victoria
Park.
That's,
basically
the
only
piece
of
artwork
in
Victoria
Park
of
note,
there's
some
painted
benches
there.
So
I
don't
want
to
dismiss
those,
but
the
totem
poles
there.
C
It
was
donated
by
the
city
Victorious
how
Victoria
Park
got
its
name.
Irrigation
has
destroyed
this
piece
and
it
will
probably
be
more
to
repair
it
than
the
pieces
valued
at.
So
we
have
to
make
the
decision
and
we
will
make
a
recommendation
to
Counsel
on
how
they
want
us
to
proceed
with
this.
Here's
what
it
would
cost
to
repair
it
do
we
need
to
relocate
it
or
do
we
just
let
it
live
there
as
it
is.
So
that
is
again
the
installation
issue.
Do
we
move
it?
How
is
it
installed?
C
I
I'll
just
add
that
I
guess
about
two
years
ago,
I
was
part
of
a
subcommittee
that
was
looking
at
the
inventory
and
maintenance
needs
of
the
collection
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we've
done
much
to
keep
up
on
those
needs.
Since
then,
so,
along
with
sort
of
compiling
the
various
inventories,
I
have
some
notes
from
2021
about
the
maintenance
needs
of
certain
pieces
and
they're,
probably
a
few
that
just
need
cleaning,
but
then
there's
also
one
or
two
that
we
should
consider.
C
C
C
C
J
B
B
C
We
have
somebody
under
contract
signature
sculptures,
who
does
our
maintenance
and
minor
repair
I
sent
them
two
of
the
major
pieces
that
were
in
stores
that
need
serious
Rehabilitation.
Unlike
many
old
things
in
Palm
Springs,
they
need
their
face
lifted
and
fixed,
and
they
said
that
this
is
not
their
their
area
of
expertise.
They
need
the
artist's
permission
or
another
artist
to
do
the
work,
their
technicians.
C
So
again
that's
going
to
be
an
individual
assessment.
Every
time
certain
pieces
of
the
work
of
that
now
I
will
say
that
one
piece:
that's
in
storage,
he
used
to
be
in
front
of
the
desert,
fashion
plaza
and
it's
a
big
metal
sculpture
with
Boulders
glued
on
and
when
I
looked
at
it
I
was
like
wow
that
looks
like
a
jungle
gym
I'd
love
to
climb
on
that,
but
there's
Boulders
up
there.
C
K
Then
just
one
quick
question
as
we're
out
looking
at
art:
some
are
visibly
damaged
and
we
know
how
would
we
know
otherwise,
like
structurally
from
an
engineering
standpoint.
If
this
is
about
to
topple
over?
How
will
we
know
how
much
repair
something
needs
just
by
looking
at
it?
If
I
don't
have
that
bad.
C
D
A
A
C
K
C
So
Barrett
and
Shonda
can
review
that
and
then
come
to
a
meeting
the
next
couple
sessions
and
make
a
recommendation
on
next
steps.
If
we
need
to
hire
somebody
how
we
go
about
that
and
as
I
said,
it's
really
about
totality,
they
need
to
know
what
pieces
we
have
the
repair
level
and
how
they're
installed.
So
we
can
make
decisions
for
future
reciting
purposes.
C
So
there
was
a
program
started
by
the
public
Arts
commission
about
five
years
ago,
called
artists
everywhere
and
what
they
did
is
they
gave
Community
grants
and
neighborhood
grants
for
five
thousand
dollars
and
neighborhoods
could
apply
for
them
and
they
could
do
art
in
their
community
and
there
was
maybe
eight
to
nine
that
were
done.
Some
of
them
were
small.
C
C
There
have
been
some
pieces
in
that
we
ended
up
purchasing
or
pieces
that
we
gave
more
money
to
the
two
successful
initiatives
through
that
that,
in
my
perspective,
were
the
piece
that
we
did
in
jimmouth
park.
Where
jimmouth
Park
came
to
us
and
said
we
won
five
thousand
dollars
to
paint
benches.
We
then
said:
that's
a
great
idea,
bring
us
your
designs,
they
did
designs.
They
then
had
the
community
vote
on
the
designs
we
went
through.
The
community
was
so
far
behind
it.
They
said
we
want
to
do
a
big
program.
C
We
want
to
create
Art
in
the
Park
and
Art
in
the
Park
in
the
dark
and
that
all
started
with
this
sort
of
incubator,
five
thousand
dollars
that
we
gave
them
for
the
benches.
Another
program
that
will
be
coming
to
us
in
the
next
meeting
is
something
that
Barrett
was
spearheading
and
that
was
with
boss
Thomas,
or
we
gave
him
five
thousand
dollars
for
a
sculpture
to
go
in
a
median
within
the
area.
C
C
Downtown
is
important.
We
understand
that,
but
in
the
parks
in
the
Parks
they
kept
saying
that
two
parts
that
they
mentioned
repeatedly
were
Victoria
Park
and
James,
o
Jessie,
Community,
Center,
and
so
then
I
said
well.
We
can
take
our.
We
can
take
our
neighborhood
Grant
of
five
thousand
dollars
and
put
it
on
steroids,
and
what
we
can
do
is
we
then
can
assign
it
to
a
park.
C
The
benefit
to
that
is
I.
Think
nearly
every
time
we've
done
a
neighbor
granted
five
thousand
dollars.
We've
had
to
give
them
more
money,
5000
just
wasn't
enough,
and
even
if
they
stayed
within
five
thousand
dollars,
it
did
not
have
impact.
You
know,
I
guarantee
you
you've
all
walked
around
to
read
this
road
and
walked
right
by
this
five
thousand
dollar
piece,
and
you
didn't
notice
it
imagine
how
it
would
have
been
if
they
had
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
twenty
five
thousand
dollars.
C
So
what
I
suggested
was
we
take
this
Grant
and
create
a
park
Grant,
make
it
very
specific
and
make
it
very
healthy
oriented,
make
it
family
living
oriented,
and
if
we
gave
them
five
fifty
thousand
dollars
it
could
be
one
substantial
piece
or
it
could
be
ten
pieces
within
the
park
that
were
each
five
thousand
dollars
worth.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
one
piece:
it
could
be
a
multitude
of
pieces
if
somebody
wanted
to
as
well.
C
It
could
be
a
collective
artist
program
where
the
artist
is
working
with
a
community
to
help
them
create
artwork.
It
does
not
need
to
be
one
intense
sculpture,
but
if
we
give
this
fifty
thousand
dollar
Grant
to
specific
Parts
when
I
mention
this,
the
first
response
from
Council
was
I
love.
The
idea
I
want
it
in
every
Park,
as
opposed
to
two
and
Jay
and
I
sort
of
looked
at
each
other.
Like.
E
C
Okay
Manpower
issues
and
we
have
Financial
issues
but
we'll
get
through
that.
So
I
still
would
recommend.
We
start
off
with
two
parks
and
then
we
roll
off
into
multiple
Parks
beyond
that
with
the
plan,
because,
even
though
we
start
with
something
right
now
we're
in
September
by
the
time
we
finalize
what
the
idea
is
it'll
be
in
October
November,
it
will
get
to
Council
on
December
January
we're
going
to
be
pushing
to
the
next
fiscal
year
already
so
I
don't
think
we
should
be
focused
on.
Do
we
have
the
money
for
it.
C
Just
what's
the
idea
now.
Each
Park
does
not
need
to
have
the
same
idea,
because
each
community
and
each
Park
is
completely
different.
You
know
James,
so
Jesse
has
a
very
active
Community,
Victoria
Park
may
not
demuth.
Park
is
very
active
as
well.
It's
it's
a
weekend
park.
It
is
family,
Centric,
baristo
Park,
not
so
much.
C
You
know
it's
not
much
going
on
there
on
the
weekends
daytime
after
school,
so
we
need
to
think
of
each
part
separately.
It
should
not
be
a
blanket
Park
program
and
so
I'd,
like
you
all
to
think
about
this,
go
up
to
James
or
Jesse.
Walk
around
walk
around
after
school
walk
around
during
the
on
the
weekend,
see
how
they
use
it
same
thing
with
Victoria
and
then
we'll
eventually
roll
out
to
Sunrise
baristo
Duluth,
there's
a
hidden
park
off
Vista
Chino.
C
Yeah,
so
you
know
as
I
think
one
of
the
responsibilities
of
the
commission
is.
We
need
to
go
into
the
communities
as
well,
and
we
can't
just
sort
of
sit
here
and
come
up
with
ideas.
Go
out,
look
at
them
how
they
do
it
I
think
one
of
the
more
successful
things
we've
done
recently
was
moving
the
John
Clement
sculptures
to
Duluth
Park,
all
of
a
sudden.
C
E
Got
actually
a
artist
friend
of
mine
pitched
me
an
idea
or
concept
a
long
time
ago,
where
she
does
these
large
8
to
12
foot
ceramic
clay
sculptures,
but
she
enlists
the
community
to
and
the
children
basically
to
build
a
portion
of
the
sculpture.
Where
then
she
takes
it
and
attaches
it
to
the
larger
piece,
and
then
it
becomes
this
massive
Community
project.
So
that's
and
I've
I
haven't
spoken
to
her
in
a
while
about
it,
but
I'm
sure
I
could
convince
her
to
to
get
involved
with
something
about
see.
C
I
think
something
that's
greater
and
I
know
I've
talked
about
this
in
the
past,
but
been
Puerto,
Vallarta,
downtown,
Puerto,
Vallarta
and
the
town
center
air.
We
had
this
entire
Mosaic
project
and
everything
is
Mosaic
and
they
enlist
a
community
with
that.
There's
one
sort
of
overarching
design
that
the
community
does
it,
and
so
every
garbage
can
every
bench
every
step.
Every
wall
is
Mosaic
and
it
looks
amazing
mosaics
also
do
really
well
in
dry
hot
weather.
You
know
so
in
Victoria
Park.
C
C
You
know
that's
public
art.
So,
as
I
said,
I
I
ask
that
you
go
to
these
Parks
different
times
of
the
day,
see
how
the
community
uses
it
and
then
come
back
with
some
ideas
that
we
can
then
decide.
Okay,
what's
the
way
we
want
to
go
knowing
not
every
Park
is
going
to
be
used
the
same
way
so
demuth
park
may
love
your
clay
thing,
maybe
not
for
Victoria
right.
C
J
C
I
I
mentioned
that
to
council,
and
you
know
they.
It's
I
think
we
need
to
go
big
on
some
of
these
things.
I'd
rather
go
big
than
a
lot
of
small,
but
if
we
went
50
per
Park
and
as
I
said,
it
was
five
pieces
out
of
that
50.
they
may
be
five
smaller
pieces,
but
they
will
have
presence
and
impact
and
the
5000
was
like
you
know.
C
E
C
A
lot
of
our
public
art,
it's
what
I
would
call
a
little
precious
that
you
look
at
it
and
you
think.
Oh,
that's
nice
and
you
don't
engage
so
it
could
be
placement.
As
I
said,
the
the
John
Clement
pieces
when
I
talk
to
other
people
about
them.
They're,
like
I,
don't
even
know
where
those
pieces
were
I
said
exactly
they
faded
into
the
background.
It
became
this
white
noise
when
you
didn't
even
notice
them,
but
then
all
of
a
sudden,
when
they're
in
demuth
park
they're
there
they're
saying
come
play
with
me.
C
They
became
interactive
and
they're
big
and
they're
safe,
so
I,
don't
think
I'm
not
saying
we
need
to
do
things
that
are
punchable
or
just
stuff
that
will
engage
people.
You
know
the
the
totem
pole
inventory.
Park
is
not
interactive
and
this
is
a
park.
That's
really
an
essential,
an
extension
of
the
local
school,
it's
right
there
with
the
school,
and
so
the
only
thing
they
have.
Is
this
rotting
wooden
totem
pole.
C
That's
what
I
mean
by
interactive
think
families,
the
families
in
the
areas
use
apartment,
so
it
shouldn't
be
precious
or
it
should
be
fun.
It
should
be
bright
and
if
it's
interactive,
like
your
friend,
doing
the
clay
stuff,
that's
great
I
think
the
more
you
engage,
the
community,
the
more
ownership
they
will
have
and
protective
of
that
artist's
work.
J
No
oh
quick
question
sure.
As
for
the
neighborhood
Gradle,
this
is
going
to
have
the
label
of
Parts
on
it
and
I'm
wondering
if
neighborhoods
are
going
to
wonder
like
is
only
Parks
like
the
neighborhoods.
So
is
that
something
that
we
need
to
look
at
as
well
is
bringing
that
to
Neighborhood
associations
to
see.
C
I
I
would
recommend
we
do
that
bring
the
neighborhood
association
into
it
and
the
challenge
we
had
with
the
neighborhood
Grant
was
some
of
the
people
that
got
them
were
one
street
within
the
neighborhood.
You
know
it
wasn't
an
entire
neighborhood
really
and
so
again
the
one
that
was
successful
for
me
was
Duluth
Park
and
it
was
in
the
park
and
they
got
the
community
run.
They
got
Community
Association
involved
to
get
people
to
participate
and
vote
on
it.
C
B
B
You
know
any
new
murals
proceed
this
week,
let's
put
on
the
agenda
for
October,
but
I
was
actually
flying
through
the
airport
to
saw
the
walls
actually
a
few
days
ago.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
great
to
add
more
life
as
the
airport,
a
big
rebound
and
I've
also
engaged
with
a
couple
and
I
know.
We
were
in
the
meeting.
B
C
C
There's
a
variety
of
artistic
backgrounds
and
they're
all
quite
excited
and
they're,
very,
very
enthusiastic
and
there's
a
very
strong
Palm,
Springs
footprint
of
people
that
you
know
there's
one
gentleman
that
has
lived
here
with
his
wife
for
40
years
lives
in
Desert,
Hot
Springs.
Somebody
else
said:
I
first
came
to
Palm
Springs
to
the
white
party
30
years
ago.
You
know
so
there's
this
great.
What
makes
Palm
Spring
so
it
said
that
will
be
next
Tuesday,
and
hopefully
everything
goes
well
with
that.
C
C
Can
we
move
forward
and
so
city
manager
is
dealing
with
Jay
and
the
other
people
in
that
department
about
getting
approval
from
Riverside
County,
and
we
also
need
to
get
approval
from
the
flood
control
Department,
because
it's
flood
control?
So
okay?
And
so
that's
the
latest
on
that
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
chance
of
Jesse
Unity
Community
Center
Richard
Wyatt,
mural
restoration.
J
J
J
C
So
let
me
just
give
some
background
for
the
other
Commissioners.
That
may
not
know
the
background,
so
the
Richard
white
mural
on
the
Jameson
Jesse
Community
Center,
has
long
been
problematic.
It's
stated,
the
research
of
the
community
Richard
white
is
a
known
artist.
He's
very,
very
important.
It
was
painted,
unfortunately,
was
painted
on
the
south
side
of
the
wall,
so
it
faded
nearly
immediately
and
there's
been
attempts
to
repair
it
back
and
forth.
C
C
It
came
back
a
year
later,
nine
months
later,
that
the
building
could
sustain
the
tile
work
and
then
getting
an
estimate
and
Sean
has
been
diligent
in
dealing
with
Richard
Wyatt.
Getting
an
estimate
on
this
and
the
estimate
came
in
at
280
thousand
dollars
to
do
the
mural
on
the
side
of
this
building.
C
And
so
Jay
spoke
to
the
lawyer,
and
the
lawyer
said
we
can
either
bring
an
artist
with
his
supervision
where
he
approves
them.
We
would
need
to
amend
the
contract
if
he's
not
doing
the
work,
and
then
the
contract
needs
to
be
reapproved
by
the
commission
and
reapproved
by
Council
or
if
he
does
not
want
to
do
that,
we
then
can
approve
another
artist
to
do
restoration,
okay,
that
needs
to
be
approved
by
commission
again
and
then
by
Council
again.
C
So
it's
unfortunate.
This
is
the
way
it
is
with
the
legal
issues
and
dealing
with
City
Hall.
But
this
is
a
situation
we're
in
spending
a
lot
of
money
to
repair
something
that's
very
important
to
the
community.
That
is
a
long
process
and
Shonda
has
been,
as
I
said,
very
diligent
in
pushing
this
with
her
leadership.
I
J
Icle-
and
this
is
just
the
Baton
I
picked
up
because
there's
been
Restorations
done
over
time
and
this
mural
has
been
wanting.
The
community
has
been
wanting
this
mural
to
be
redone
for
the
last
10
years
yeah.
So
it's
extremely
important
to
the
community
there's
a
lot
of
historical
Easter
eggs
in
it,
and
they
would
very
much
the
neighborhood
would
very
much
like
it
to
be
restored.
J
Now
this
with
the
semantics
of
Richard
Wyatt.
If
he
is
ill
and
is
not
able
to
supervise.
That
jargon
needs
to
also
be
put
in
that
that
he's
given
this
artist's
blessing
to
to
do
it
and
that
this
artist
can
whatever
artist
that
has
chosen
a
couple
of
artists,
have
been
thrown
into
the
ring
and
would
be
really
nice
to
I.
C
C
So
we
don't
want
to
spend
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
have
it
look
different
than
the
mural
did
originally,
and
this
is
a
situation
where
again
we
are
an
advisory
commission
to
city
council
and
we
will
review.
We
will
make
a
recommendation
and
ultimately
it
will
be
at
the
council
to
make
that
determination
can.
E
I
ask
a
question
just
for
my
own
benefit
in
going
forward,
not
regardless
of
the
situation
when
the
commissioner
of
the
city,
hires
and
artists,
to
paint
something
or
to
produce
a
work
of
art
on
a
city
building
who
owns
that
who
owns
the
rights
to
that
artwork.
At
that
point,
I'm
just
curious
just
because
of
the
situation
that
we're
in
right
now
I
understand
the
historical
value
of
of
an
artist
and
their
work,
and
you
don't
want
to
mess
with
that.
A
B
A
D
C
Our
recent
contracts
I'll
state
that
it
is
our
art.
It
is
part
of
our
permanent
collection
I.
Imagine
what
if
a
contract
was
even
done
with
this
mural
when
it
was
done
30
years
ago,
40
years
ago,
I
don't
even
know
if
there
was
a
contract
done
at
that
point,
and
the
public
art
laws
have
changed
since
then
right
right,
that's
what
I'm
just
wondering
so!
Okay
now
there
may
not
have
been
an
amended
contract,
but
for
us
to
proceed
in
the
money
we're
putting
into
it.
We
will
own
this
mural
right
right.