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From YouTube: City Council Special Meeting | June 27 2023
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Special Meeting of the Palm Springs City Council, held June 27th, 2023 at 8:30am
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A
Well,
I
think,
probably
like
a
lot
of
people
that
want
a
certain
on
commissions,
it's
a
good
way
to
have
an
impact
and
be
involved
in
the
community
so
and
I.
Think
of
all
the
commissions.
From
my
perspective,
the
Planning
Commission
has
probably
the
most
significant
long-term
impacts
in
the
city
and
that
appeals
to
me
so
and
I've
also
always
been
interested
in
and
paid
attention
to
in
the
communities
I've
lived
in
over
the
years
developments.
What
happens
to
the
community
when
something
goes
up.
H
A
The
positive
column
so
anyway,
I'm
interested
in
it
and
I
think
I'd
be
good
at
it
and
that's
why
I'm
here
awesome.
Thank
you
so
much
how
long
you
been
in
town,
I
bought
a
house
down
here
in
2013.,
okay,
I've
been
coming
here
for
I,
don't
know
25
30
years,
yeah,
all
right
and
as
I
was
getting
ready
to
approach.
Retirement
I
got
a
house
down
here
and
then
I'm
now
a
full-time
president.
Excellent.
Thank
you
been
here
a
while
thank.
G
A
My
understanding
of
the
role
of
the
commission
and
then
I've
watched
some
of
the
meetings
is
that
it
is
a
advisory,
certain
advisory
role,
guidance
to
the
city
council
for
what
happens
in
development
land
use
buildings,
and
so
it's
it's
an
important
role
and
it
has
I
think
a
lot
of
influence
and
what
happens
and
what
doesn't
happen
in
the
city
and
it
is
subservient
to
or
subordinate
to
the
council.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Well,
I.
Think
I've
always
had
a
strong
Community
Focus
over
the
years.
I've
done
a
lot
of
volunteer
work
outside
of
my
regular
job
and
so
I
think
one
of
the
attributes
I
would
bring
to
the
Planning.
Commission
is
a
very
strong
Community
Focus
since
I've
been
in
Palm
Springs
full
time.
I
was
one
of
the
founders
and
a
leader
of
the
Community
Partnership
on
homelessness,
which
was
tremendously
gratifying.
A
We
started
that
organization
sort
of
at
the
beginning
of
the
covid
when
things
were
looking
pretty
dicey
and
that
work
was
just
super
rewarding
to
me
and
that's
actually
what
spurred
me
when
I
saw
the
opening
on
the
Planning
Commission
to
throw
my
hat
in
the
ring,
because
I
got
a
lot
out
of
doing
that.
Work
and
I
also
serve
on
the
navigation,
Center
advisory
resident
advisory.
Working
group
and
I've
participated
in
that
because
the
Community
Partnership
on
homelessness
was
an
advocate.
A
J
You
thanks
for
committing
to
all
the
service
with
the
helping
to
solve
the
homelessness
issue.
That's
great
I'd
appreciate
it.
Excuse
me
the
work
you've
done
as
we're
talking
about
Planning
Commission.
What
qualifications
do
you
feel
you're
bringing
to
to
the
commission
from
a
technical
standpoint?
Well,.
J
A
There
but
I
do
have
a
you
know.
Years
of
a
career
in
business,
I
worked
for
the
healthcare
software
companies,
so
I
would
kind
of
run
the
Gambit
on
business
management
and
served
in
an
executive
levels
for
software
companies,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
Planning
Development,
negotiate
contract
negotiations
and
more
important
I
think
it's
my
temperament
to
be
successful
in
that
environment.
I
had
to
have
the
right
temperament,
which
is
flexibility,
kind
of
emotional
I.
Would
my
colleagues
and
friends
would
say:
I
have
pretty
strong
emotional.
A
A
The
kinds
of
questions
that
were
asked
of
the
developer
by
both
the
commission
and
supported
by
this
city
staff
and
I
was
just
I
was
in
I,
was
encouraged
and
thought
watching
that
that
I
would
be
good
at
that.
You
know
helping
in
that
capacity,
so
that
would
be
one
example.
On
the
other
end
of
the
continuum,
and
just
coincidentally
in
my
neighborhood
Day
star,
hotels
was
petitioning
for
some
variances
in
their
project
and
again,
I
was
really
impressed.
A
It's
a
small
scale
development,
but
you
know
it's
on
a
business
screen
on
Canyon.
There
are
a
lot
of
really
good
questions
about
and
thoughtful
questions
about
parking
in
the
adjacent
neighborhood
and
getting
in
into
and
out
of
so
access
number
of
seats
in
a
restaurant
and
so
I
I
found
it
to
be
question
in
a
very
collaborative
and
deliberative
and
very
thorough
thing.
A
So
there's
a
sidewalk
that
runs
along
Palm
Canyon
and
in
this
case,
to
drive
like
those
all
the
way
to
the
street
and
I
thought
it
was
a
little
bit
fuzzy
around
where
the
sidewalk
would
you
know,
being
contiguous
thing,
and
that
was
a
little
bit
of
a
concern.
I
just
imagine
people
and
pedestrians
not
being
really
sure
where
to
walk,
particularly
back
and
out
of
that
property,
which
is
it's
the
nearest.
A
So
that
was
one
thing
that
started
just
one
other
thing:
you
understand
that
the
time
commitment
with
Planning
Commission,
it's
a
very
time,
intensive
commission,
probably
more
so
than
most
of
them:
okay,
I,
I,
I'm,
retired
and
I'm.
Looking
for
an
important-
and
you
know,
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
with
the
Community
Partnership
at
home,
so
I
still
do,
but
less
so
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
progress,
maybe
yeah.
A
G
You
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
every
single
candidate
this
question
just
like
all
of
our
questions,
but
if
you're
not
able
to
serve
on
Planning
Commission,
are
you
interested
in
other
commissions?
Did
you
look
at
any
other
one,
and
why
did
you
you
know
I
think
you
explained
why
you
chose
planning,
but
if
you
could
just
describe
if
you're
interested
in
any
other
commissions.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Just
thank
you
so
much
for
for
being
here
and
yeah.
Absolutely
and
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
we
have
a
very
strict
10
minute
timeline.
Okay,
so
if
we
don't
get
through
all
the
questions,
that's
it
so
try
to
keep
it.
Your
answers
brief
I
do
want
to
just
introduce
our
planning
commission,
chair,
Kathy,
wermark.
A
A
A
My
experience
is
in
real
estate,
as
well
as
in
development
with
band
Acquisitions
and
development,
not
only
in
residential
but
commercial
and
also
Healthcare
facilities
as
well.
My
previous
job,
our
previous
slide
before
release
date,
was
in
healthcare.
I
was
vice
president
CEO
of
the
national
home
health
care
company
that
only
has
been
supplied
in
HIV
AIDS
and
oncology.
I
developed
six
cats
sent
us
throughout
the
United
States
and
developed
back
in
the
early
80s
when
AIDS
were
just
the
beginning
component
to
it.
A
We
developed
contamining
clinics,
various
clinics
for
people
with
HIV,
because
there
was
no
place
for
facilities
to
go.
We
also
developed
various
programs
within
the
doctors,
Physicians
offices
as
well
I
also
developed
a
national,
an
international
program
for
capitating
rates
for
HIV
and
AIDS
in
the
Sao,
Paulo
and
Brazil,
and
also
in
Italy
and
Spain.
So
I've
been
doing
a
lot,
but
right
now
this
is
sort
of
my
retirement
job
working
with
Woodbridge,
Pacific
group
I
do
know
all
the
developments
I
know
what's
going
on
as
well.
G
A
A
A
Okay
describe
your
Civic
involvement
here
in
Palm
Springs,
and
they
have
that's
prepared
you,
the
feeling
my
Civic
component
I've,
been
actively
involved
with
the
gay
and
lesbian
center
in
the
beginning.
I've
also
was
very
active
in
and
I'm
also
Ocotillo
Club
member
for
the
center
as
well.
The
donations
large
donations
to
the
center
I
was
involved
with
the
to
work
with
Vandal
people,
defense,
Human,
Rights,
Campaign
fund
and
in
the
beginning,
applied
for
acquisition
as
a
consultant
with
visit
AIDS
project.
A
A
K
A
For
me,
I
think
what
I
see
for
the
Planning
Commission
would
have
done.
Numeral
is
I
think
we
need
to
be
a
little
bit
more
strict
with
some
regulations,
because
I
see
the
complaints
I
see
the
lawsuits
that
occur
from
different
homeowners
in
the
Bible
comment
on
developing
some
stricter
guidelines
that
I
think
are
really
necessary
because
we
are
at
a
different
environment.
A
F
G
A
B
G
A
C
F
C
C
G
C
A
E
I've
been
down
into
Palm
Springs
area
for
about
five
years
now
and
looking
to
get
more
involved
in
the
city
and
the
city.
Dealings
I
am
been
in
finance
for
over
15
years
in
project
management,
so
I'm
just
looking
to
see
how
I
can
get
back
to
the
city
and
see
how
I
could
be
more
a
part
of
the
city,
City
City
activities.
G
G
A
J
J
E
I
I'd
see
it
as
more
diversity
of
thought.
You
know
I
I'm
African-American,
but
I
I'm.
More
so
am
talking
about
my
experience
and
business.
My
experience
and
being
in
various
different
sides
of
business
of
of
of
you
know
being
a
business
coming
from
the
corporate
environment
as
well
as
the
small
business
capacity
yeah
great
thank.
A
E
The
changes
in
the
city
of
Palm,
Springs
I,
understand
we
have
you
know
a
large
like
I
mean
covet,
was
a
huge
hit
to
every
Community
and
I.
Think
that
you
know
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
did
a
great
job
of
of
adjusting
to
the
the
covet
response,
but
you
know
there
was
also
some
protocols
that
you
know
impacted
the
small
business
person.
E
E
I
still,
don't
think
that
you
know
a
lot
of
the
business
activities
have
returned
to
pre-covet
to
pre-coveted
activities,
so
there
there
are
still
some
things
that
that
can
still
be
addressed,
I
think
by
the
city
and
with
some
greater
understanding
of
how
it
affects
the
smaller.
Not
just
the
residences,
but
the
small
business
person
in
the
community
is
is
I.
I
think
is,
is
really
important.
E
G
E
No
I
I
think
I'll
limit
my
interest
to
to
those
two
I
think
it's
where
I
can
be
the
the
best
beneficial
like
I
said
you
know,
coming
from
being
a
small
business
owner
and
having
the
experience
in
finance
and
business
activities,
I
think
it.
It
will
help
me
be
a
a
good
commissioner
on
these
two
on
one
of
the
two
commissions.
A
I
G
F
G
D
F
M
D
A
H
B
G
F
G
C
A
A
Well,
so
my
husband
and
I
actually
do
Palm
Springs
about
a
few
years
ago.
This
is
our
forever
community
and
we
I
really
wanted
to
figure
out
a
way
to
be
a
little
bit
more
active,
especially
in
a
leadership
role
and
also
kind
of
sharing
some
of
the
skills
that
I've
learned
from
the
ninth
career
with
the
city
and
trying
to
help
guide
us
to.
A
J
Okay
say
your
last
name
for
me:
tried
trying:
okay,
I
was
gonna,
I,
say
I'm.
Looking
at
I
was
going
to
say,
trees,
excellent,
all
right
so
I
mean
what
at
ACU
have
a
pretty
extensive
medical
background.
What
qualifications
do
you
feel
you're
going
to
bring
technically
to
the
Planning
Commission?
So
as
far
as
like
actual
development.
A
Or
building
or
background
within
on
that
I
don't
have
I,
don't
have
background.
So
what
I
have
that
I
think
would
be
valuable,
is
I'm
deeply
interested
in
the
community.
I
have
a
long
history
in
involvement
with
affordable
housing
and
alternative
housing
and
I
was
the
finance
officer
for
the
Madison
Community
Cooperative,
which
is
in
Madison
Wisconsin
and
so
understanding,
finance
and
kind
of
also
how
to
create
affordable
housing.
J
A
A
It
that
yeah
so
Madison
Community
Cooperative,
is
a
system
of
about
I,
think
12
houses.
Now
in
Madison
Wisconsin
the
homes
were
they're
all
part
of
a
trust
that
was
entrusted
to
the
they
were
donated
at
some
point:
they're
multi-,
multi-unit
buildings,
so
there's
usually
about
30
to
50
people
living
in
a
communal
environment.
A
Shared
Living
Spaces
on
most
The
Living
Spaces
are
shared.
All
of
the
the
expenses
are
shared,
including
food,
and
then
there's
work
shares.
So
everybody
has
a
function
in
the
house
to
share
to
community.
So
thank
you.
You
said
you've
watched
a
few
of
the
Planning
Commission
meetings,
yes,
and
how?
What
do
you
think
they've
been
doing
right
or
wrong,
or
what
would
you
bring
differently?
A
A
M
G
B
G
A
P
Well,
I've
had
seven
years
on
the
well.
Let
me
back
up
originally
I
applied
for
Planning,
Commission
and
I
was
told
at
that
interview
that
I
needed
to
spend
some
time
on
architectural
advisory
committee.
At
that
time
it
was
called
so
that
I
got
to
know
better.
The
city
well
I
spent
seven
years
now
on
the
architectural
advisor
today.
Now,
architecture,
review
and
I
feel
like
I
have
something
that
I
can
offer.
The
city
I
have
a
design
background.
P
G
P
Well,
as
I
mentioned,
I've
been
on
the
architectural
advisory
committee
for
seven
years
as
Vice
chair
and
I
I
have
been
taught
locally
with
my
neighborhood.
The
little
Tuscany
neighborhood
organization
I
served
on
the
board
for
a
while
I've
served
on
a
number
of
the
subcommittees
that
they've
had
I've
organized
three
modernism
tours
for
our
neighborhood
and
going
back
to
Arc
I've
served
on
many
subcommittees
with
the
Planning
Commission
to
review
projects.
J
Hey
Robert
you've
had
a
long
history
in
the
planning
process
or
the
preparedness
process
to
get
to
this
point.
So
thank
you
for
putting
in
the
seven
years
on
the
Architectural,
Review,
Committee
I
think
you.
You
certainly
bring
a
lot
of
great
technical
skills
to
the
commission.
What
do
you
see
as
how
do
you
see
yourself
supporting
city
council
is
serving
on
the
role
of
Planning
Commission.
P
They
have
to
do
it
in
such
a
way
that
is
in
compliance
or
not
not
compliance
but
is
supports
city,
council
and
I
I.
Think
you
know
we,
the
Planning
Commission
serves
city
council,
so
I
think
you
know
I
I,
listen
to
a
lot
of
Council
meetings
and
I.
My
husband,
as
you
may
know,
is
a
former
council
member,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
things
that
go
on
with
the
city
plus
I
monitor
Council
agendas.
P
A
P
You
know
I
think
generally
planning
commissions,
do
it
I'm
I
think
generally
Planet
Christian
is
doing
a
great
job.
I
think
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot,
that's
been
going
on
with
the
city
with
development
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
I
think
having
a
clear
Direction
about
what
how
we
want
the
city
to
look
in
the
in
the
future
as
it
relates
to
development,
is
really
important.
P
C
G
A
C
D
D
Just
been
generous,
taken
work
on
this
year
in
San
Francisco
San
Diego
in
La,
as
well
as
putting
in
theater
60
hours
a
week
on
the
Plaza.
So
his
time
is
is
over
committed
and
he
said
he
thinks
he's
going
to
have
a
much
easier
near
next
year.
I,
never
think
anybody's
going
to
have
an
easier
next
year.
D
Yeah,
it's
the
only
reason
he'd
leave
is,
if
you
can't
make
meetings,
but
right
now,
I
talked
with
him
yesterday
and
I
actually
talked
with
him
about
the
material
that
I
sent
to
you,
guys
he's
a
vice
chair
and
he
thought
it
was
important
for
him
to
stay
on
right
now
and
it's
changing
over
we're
going
to
be
changing
three
people
on
the
commission.
That's
a
lot
changing
forward
with
him.
Please
changes
abandonments
right
now.
D
G
D
A
C
C
C
D
A
M
C
So
terrible
which
every
airplane
coffee
is
terrible,
but
she
just
decided
I'm,
never
drinking
coffee
again
and
never
drink
coffee
again,
oh
my
goodness
and
I
I
can't
get
over
that
because
I
just
I
couldn't
just
stop.
No
I
mean
if
I
needed
to
I
could,
but
it
would
be
a
process
and
Lisa
just
was
like
no
no
more.
A
D
C
D
A
C
Used
to
smoke,
but
she
stopped,
but
she,
when
we're
old,
ladies
and
living
in
Paris,
we're
gonna,
take
up
cigarettes.
Well,
she
tells
me
she's
gonna
get
smoke
again.
She's
like
she
always
go
figure
it
well.
She
tells
me
she's,
like
you're,
not
actually
gonna
smoke,
Grace
she's,
like
you,
you
say
this,
but
you're
not
really
and
she's.
She's
right,
I
won't.
G
M
A
B
A
A
A
A
M
M
C
G
G
M
Yeah,
absolutely
any
you
know,
I
would
like
to
be.
You
know
at
least
on
one
of
them.
If
I
get
selected-
and
you
know
I
would
I
would
like
to
be
included
and
because
I've
been
a
city,
I
mean
I've
been
a
resident
for
18
years
here
in
in
Palm
Springs,
and
so
yes
I
would
be
interested
in
any
one
of
them
if
I
get
selected.
M
You
know,
I
have
not
joined
any
meeting
or
anything
at
all.
I
was
just
you
know,
became
interested
recently
when
I've
seen
a
lot
of
I'm.
Really
sorry,
but
I'm
gonna
bring
it
up,
I'm
the
homelessness
here
in
the
city,
and
it's
just
so
depressing,
and
so
that's
why
I
decided
to
see
what
what
commission
I
could
join
in.
A
M
F
J
M
My
skills
I
know
I
have
my
business
in
business
administrations.
I've
worked
with
the
I'm,
still
working
at
the
casino
for
18
years,
but
I
know
a
little
about.
You
know
the
Planning
Commission,
because
I
got
involved,
my
ex
I
used
to
live
in
Indiana
for
10
10
years
and
we
owned
several
apartment
buildings.
M
A
P
M
M
A
C
I
B
D
D
B
A
G
F
A
A
R
You
know,
I
do
answer
to
Shara,
but
I
do
prefer
Shara
so,
but
everybody
calls
me
Shara,
Shara
and
I
just
answer
to
any
of
that,
because
you
know
when
you
have
an
unusual
I,
don't
know
how
many
other
of
you
have
an
unusual
name.
You
know
Sarah
Cabrera,
so
pretty
much
I
just
answered
a
Shara
Cabrera
anything
close
to
that
yeah.
G
R
G
R
Why
would
consider
others
I
mean
I
mean
I
like
I
I
am
interested
in
mid-century
architecture
and
things
like
that
Arts
commission
I
know
I
find
myself
that
I
don't
have
a
very
probably
a
great
understanding
of
art,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
do
enjoy
going
to
look
at
Art.
You
know
like
I,
went
to
the
desert
x's
and
all
these
other
things
so
and
I
I
have
been
to
the
Louvre
and
things
like
that
to
look
at
Art,
so
I
try
to
expand
my
interests.
R
R
Well,
like
I,
said,
I've
worked
in
the
field
of
education
for
pretty
much.
My
whole
life,
so
I
have
you
know,
worked
within
I
worked
in
Desert
Sands
for
a
while
and
then
I
came
over
to
Palm
Springs
I've
worked
up
in
desert
hot
springs
and
down
in
Palm
Springs,
so
I
feel
like
I,
have
a
good
sense
of
the
community.
R
Then
during
covet
I
started
taking
more
of
an
interest
of
going
online
and
looking
at
watching
some
of
the
committee
meetings
for
different
commissions
and
then
I
got
involved
in
the
Oasis
Del
Sol
neighborhood
group
just
to
try
to
get
a
little
bit
more.
Involvement
in
that
I
have
partnered
with
things
like
I.
Think
I
put
this
on
my
application
with
the
the
Palm
Springs
Library
I
helped
provide
them
materials
for
their
born
to
read
project
which
it
provides
books
and
developmental
information
to
parents,
because
I
do
think
that
is.
J
R
Well,
I
I
did
get
my
doctorate
in
organizational
leadership,
and
you
know
I
am
considered
an
administrator.
You
know
with
the
school
district,
so
I'm
not
overseeing
budgets
per
se,
but
I
am
familiar
with
how
things
work.
As
far
as
like
you
know
this,
this
pot
of
money
can't
be
used
for
this
pot
of
money
and
things
like
that.
J
R
Yeah
I
decided
I
wanted
to
work
more
in
my
community.
For
that.
For
that
you
know,
although
it
is
difficult
to
switch
districts,
you
know
when
you
start
working
somewhere,
you
get
seniority
and
you
get
all
these
things
and
yeah
and
then,
when
I
moved
over,
they
were
like
you
know,
they're
going
to
have
you
work
in
desert
in
Desert
Hot
Springs
I
was
like
you
know
what
desert
hot
springs
deserves
people
that,
but
you
know,
can
provide
services
to
them
too.
R
R
You
know
larger
issues,
so
so
I
do
appreciate,
like
I
said
that
Grassroots
that
there's,
that
that
there's
that
opportunity
to
go
online
and
and
fill
out
the
application
form
and
say
hey.
This
is
something
I
see
in
my
community
and
I
I
did
see
all
a
lot
of
Roads
get
repaved,
so
that
was
pretty
nice
in
our
neighborhood
and
I
know,
and
the
the
sidewalk
cutting
I'm,
not
sure
if
that's
coming
out
of
measure
J
but
I
do
think.
A
F
A
A
F
B
Minutes
before
I
mean
one
thing
is
just
around
depends
on
what
they
do,
but
it's
valuable
to
have
on
a
commission
people
to
utilize
the
city
in
different
ways.
So
if
they
go
to
Parks,
if
they
of
course
lives
in
certain
facilities
that
we've
been
to
just
like
they're
understanding.
What
the
speed
of
the
fact
that.
A
A
L
This
is
now
I'm
finishing
up
my
third
year
as
the
president
or
chair
of
1ps.
I
have
been
involved
with
that
Organization
for
10
years.
I
feel
very
committed
to
the
the
health
welfare
Beauty
and
the
livability
of
Palm,
Springs
and
I
want
to
continue
to
help
the
community
in
any
way
I
can
going
forward.
Measure
J
was
a
commission
that
appealed
to
me
and
as
a
result,
sort
of
the
vehicle
or
Avenue
that
I
wanted
to
use
going
forward
to
help
the
city.
G
L
As
I
understand
it,
it
is
to
look
at
projects
that
have
been
submitted
generally
by
the
City
by
city
council,
by
Departments
of
the
city
and
to
assist
in
making
decisions
about
how
to
fund
those
projects.
And
then
the
a
small
percentage
of
the
budget
goes
for
Community
initiated
projects,
and
my
understanding
is
that
there's
a
backlog
of
those
so
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
currently
open.
L
L
L
I
have
gotten
to
know
a
lot
of
the
issues
that
faced
the
entirety
of
the
city
and
I've
gotten
to
know
a
lot
of
the
Navy,
the
neighborhoods
of
the
city
that
I
frankly
didn't
really
focus
on
previously
and
there's
some
wonderful,
wonderful,
neighborhoods
outside
of
where
I,
where
I
live
and
I.
Think.
That's
helped
me
understand
the
need
for
capital
projects,
not
just
where
I
live,
but
all
over
the
city.
G
L
J
L
A
L
So
I
think
that's
a
concern
is
that
I
know
that
that
it's
legally
possible
to
use
the
funds
for
that
purpose,
but
I'm
not
sure
it's
the
wisest
use
of
those
funds
at
this
point.
I
just
don't
know
enough
other
than
that.
I
I,
perhaps
like
to
see
more
of
the
budget
allocated
toward
Community
initiated
projects
just
to
try
to
clear
up
some
of
the
backlog,
but
again
until
I
sit
down
and
listen
to
people
at
the
Mr
J
meetings.
K
L
B
L
I
do
a
lot
of
cycling
and
I
would
like
to
see
more
bicycle
trails.
Improving
safety
for
cyclists
in
the
city,
I
think
that
that
cycling
is
obviously
ecologically
a
really
a
good
way
to
transport
within
the
city
and
I'd
like
to
see
us
try
to
enhance
the
safety
of
bike
trails.
I'm
also
impressed
with
the
the
perks
for
a
city
of
our
size.
We
have
a
remarkable
park
and
rec
department
and
I
think
that
the
city
perks
are
underappreciated
I'd
like
to
make
sure
that
we
maintain
them
properly.
A
H
A
G
A
A
A
D
A
B
D
A
G
B
A
G
B
B
C
I
Well,
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
our
city.
I
want
to
participate
in
our
city.
Involvement,
I
have
volunteered
and
locally
in
my
community,
just
as
an
active
Community
member,
but
I
noticed
that
there
was
a
position
available
for
the
measure.
J
and
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
I
could
get
in
just
to
get
familiar
with
some
of
the
things
in
the
city
and
to
get
my
foot
in
the
door
just
to
be
active.
I
G
G
I
I
A
I
I
J
Rhonda
Hart
thank
you
for
serving
on
the
police,
chief,
hiring,
commission
or
committee.
That
was
great
work.
You
had
a
good
pick
there
from
you
know.
We
you've
shared
your
community
community
involvement,
your
work
in
desert
Highlands.
How
do
you
feel
other
other
skills?
What
do
you
feel?
The
other
skills
are
that
you'll
bring
to
measure
J
from
a
leadership
standpoint.
I
A
I
I
would
say:
I
love,
children
and
I.
Think
I
would
like
and
I
love.
Reading,
I
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
more
funds
spent
on
children,
programs
and,
and
you
know,
just
fundamental
educational
programs
for
children-
maybe
revamp
in
our
library
adding
another
Library
just
making
it
more
fun,
but
I'm,
very
big
on
children,
education
and
activities.
So
I
would
like
to
see
more
programs
and
things
geared
towards
the
children.
F
B
I
So
it's
a
great
resource
and
I
know
I,
go
to
a
church
here
and
our
church
we're
under
Remodeling
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we're
missing
in
our
church.
So
I
like
just
the
the
resources
that
the
center
has
the
Jamal
Jesse
Center
and
then
with
the
information,
the
implementation
of
the
restrooms.
I
A
G
A
G
A
A
J
F
C
A
O
Well,
I'm,
a
proud
resident
of
Palm
Springs,
an
active
member
of
the
community
and
I'm
passionate
about
serving
on
the
oversight
commission
for
two
reasons:
investment
and
accountability.
So
on
the
investment
side,
I
believe
that
to
ensure
Palm
Springs
remains
a
great
place
to
live.
It's
critical
that
we
continue
to
invest
in
the
things
that
our
residents
have
told
us
our
top
priorities:
the
neighborhood
services
and
safety,
continuing
to
revitalize
the
downtown
investments
in
streets
and
parks,
and
certainly
the
infrastructure
and
capital
Improvement
projects
as
well
and
on
accountability.
O
My
understanding
is
the
ordinance
provides
that
an
oversight
commission
oversee
and
monitor
all
expenditures
and
audits
of
measure,
day
funds
and
work
collaboratively
with
the
city
council
during
the
city's
budgeting
process,
to
make
sure
that
those
things
are
linked
and
I
get
a
lot
of
energy
and
fulfillment
from
doing
my
part
to
help
make
sure
we're
holding
ourselves
accountable
to
delivering
on
the
promise
of
measure
J
for
the
next
15
to
20
years.
I
know
it
has
a
long
25-year
life.
So
those
are
the
two
reasons
why
I'm
primarily
interested
in
serving.
G
O
K
O
C
C
O
My
understanding
of
the
role
of
the
commission
is
to
help
make
sure
that
the
monies
that
are
raised
from
the
one
percent
sales
tax
are
spent
in
a
in
accordance
with
the
the
residents
priorities
and
it's
to
attend
the
monthly
meetings
to
be
an
active
participant
and
help
ensure
that
the
monies
get
spent
in
the
best
possible
way
that
that
is
how
I
would
describe
it.
In
a
nutshell,.
A
O
There
are
two
ways
that
I'm
involved
in
the
community
in
Palm
Springs
one
is
I,
am
the
President
of
my
homeowners
association
in
Indian
Canyons.
It's
a
micro,
neighborhood
called
Kings
Point
and
I've,
been
on
the
board
for
about
10
years
and
served
as
president
for
four
years
and
I'll
come
back
to
that
and
share
a
little
bit
more
detail
to
the
second
part
of
your
question
about
why
it
could
perhaps
help
prepare
me
for
the
commission.
O
O
We
have
architectural
and
Landscape
control,
meaning
that
homeowners,
who
wish
to
make
any
changes
to
the
exterior
facade
of
their
homes
or
to
the
Landscaping
at
their
homes,
have
to
submit
an
application,
and
they
have
to
detail
exactly
what
they
plan
to
do
and
when
the
board
evaluates
those
applications,
we're
not
using
our
own
personal
preferences
and
taste
when
it
comes
to
architecture
and
Landscape
redesigns.
What
we're
doing
is.
O
We
are
understanding
the
rules
and
regulations
that
govern
those
govern
those
two
things
and
we
are
looking
to
understand
if
the
applicants
changes
align
with
the
ccnrs
and
the
rules
and
recs
and
I
always
do
I'm,
always
very
intentional,
about
providing
context
in
these
meetings,
because
I
think
they
are
teaching
moments.
I've
observed
that
a
lot
of
homeowners
they
buy
into
Kings
Point.
They
don't
necessarily
read
all
of
the
documents.
O
For
example,
the
new
fire
department
leader
that
we
have
I
forget
his
name,
but
there
was
a
woman
at
a
recent
meeting
who
was
concerned
about
brush
in
a
certain
area
and
like
I,
was
so
impressed
with
how
the
new
fire
chief
was
willing
to
meet
with
that
person
during
the
week
and
like
see
the
thing
and
just
taking
accountability.
Taking
responsibility
and
taking
residences
views
and
comments.
So
seriously
is
something
that
that
I
would
like
to
bring
to
to
the
commission.
If
you'd
like
to
have
me.
J
F
O
You
know
I'm
I'm,
most
proud
of
the
Tony
award
for
best
new
play
for
a
play
that
was
written
by
a
queer
latino
man
named
Matthew
Lopez
and
the
name
of
the
play
is
called
The
Inheritance
and
it
tells
the
story
of
three
generations
of
gay
men
and
it
contemplates
and
asks
the
audience
to
really
think
about.
What
does
one
generation
owe
the
Next
Generation
and
and
that
that's
what
I'm
most
proud
of,
because
I
feel
like
as
queer
people?
O
J
O
One
of
the
skills
that
I
have
honed
and
become
an
expert
in
as
a
marketer
is
really
using
data
and
insights
to
inform
strategy
development
now
to
be
clear,
I'm,
not
the
person,
that's
going
to
actually
pull
the
data
or
conduct
the
research,
but
I
have,
for
the
last
20
plus
years
manage
teams
that
are
accountable
for
bringing
consumer
insights
to
the
table,
for
example
a
consumer
Insight
me,
but
maybe
like
during
Instagrams
or
my
time
as
the
chief
marketing
officer.
How
do
teenagers
and
college
students
use
the
app?
O
O
It
was
a
sweet
story
about
a
lesbian
couple
that
was
in
high
school
and
just
wanted
to
go
to
the
prom
together
and
dance
with
one
another,
like
all
the
other
kids
and
the
the
parents
find
out
of
the
PTA
finds
out
and
they
cancel
the
prom
blah
blah.
Anyway,
we
were
struggling
at
the
box
office
and
we
did
focus
groups
and
some
Quant
research
to
try
to
understand
for
the
audience
members
that
were
coming
to
see
the
show.
What
did
they
like
about
it?
O
What
did
they
not
like
about
it,
and
the
purpose
was
to
use
those
insights
to
to
refine
and
improve
our
marketing
strategy,
so
lots
of
skills
around
using
data
and
insights,
lots
of
skills
around
budgets,
so
I've
worked
for
big
brands
that
have
had
you
know,
have
the
Good
Fortune
of
investing.
You
know
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
a
year
in
marketing
budgets,
and
when
you
spend
that
kind
of
money,
the
finance
team
and
the
chief
financial
officer
wants
to
understand
what
are
we
getting
for
the
money
like?
What
is
the
ROI
on
the
spend?
O
Why
are
we
doing
this?
Like?
Do
you
have
a
rock
solid
business
case,
or
is
there
a
hypothesis
that
you're
trying
to
test
so
lots
of
experience
working
with
you
know,
Finance
people
to
develop
budgets
with
with
with
clear,
measurable
objectives
with
kpis,
so
that
when
you
spend
the
money
when
you're
three
months
in
six
months
in
12
months
and
depending
how
long
the
campaign
is
going
to
be
there's
a
clear
measurement
framework?
And
so
you
can
report
back
and
say?
Okay,
we
ran
this
campaign.
This
was
the
objectives.
O
A
G
A
C
B
K
A
G
G
C
C
S
Well,
thank
you
I
guess.
You
know.
First
of
all,
I
was
really
just
looking
to
become
more
involved
in
the
community
in
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
and
helping
I
think,
first
and
foremost
just
helping
to
continue
to
help
the
city
grow
and
thrive
in
the
future,
and
after
researching
several
of
the
commissions
measure,
Jay
just
seemed
to
jump
out.
I
think
it's
seems
like
it
has
the
broadest
reach
within
the
commission.
S
So
I
was
particularly
intrigued
by
that
you
know
partially
because
I'm
still
a
relatively
new
Resident
I
moved
here
four
years
ago
and
so
the
opportunity
to
be
involved
in
an
organization
or
a
commission
that
also
helps
me
kind
of
learn.
The
most
and
I
think
have
a
pretty
wide
impact.
So
I
was
very
intrigued
and
interested
in
that
and
I
think.
S
Secondly,
I'm
interested
in
serving
because
it's
also
ending
and
I
know
what
14
years
seems
like
that
might
be
far
off,
but
it's
actually
not
so
I'm
very
interested
in
just
helping
the
commission
and
helping
Council
really
think
through.
What's
the
strategy
for
the
future
for
measure
J,
so
that
that
work
has
to
start
now.
Yes,.
G
S
Well,
a
few
things
I
think
you
know
at
the
like
at
the
Forefront.
It's
really
making
sure
that
the
expenditures
the
budget
that
we
are
recommending
to
council
is
true
to
the
spirit
of
the
measure,
and
so
that's
that
sounds
like
that
might
be
something
that's
easy
to
do.
But
I
know
that
that
probably
isn't
always
easy.
When
you
know
people
are
coming
with
different
perspectives,
there
are
different
requests.
S
We're
focused
on
again
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
doing
what's
best
for
the
broadest
spectrum
of
people
and
causes
within
the
community
and
I.
You
know
our
role
is
also
it's
not
to
manage
the
projects.
It's
not
to
tell
staff.
You
know
how
a
particular
project
should
happen.
I
think
that
again,
that
can
also
easily
happen,
but
instead
it's
more.
D
A
S
So,
as
you
all
are
well
aware
of
that
organization-
and
just
really
it's
been
exciting-
to
be
able
to
start
to
revitalize
that
we've
barely
scratched
the
surface,
but
that
has
kind
of
helped
jump
start
just
an
understanding
of
some
of
the
different
organizations
in
the
community
and
have
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
and
work
with.
You
know.
Numerous
people
who've
had
a
lot
more
involvement
in
Palm
Springs,
because
they've
lived
in
the
in
the
community.
Much
longer
than
I
have
not
specific
to
Palm
Springs,
but
I
have
also
been
involved
in
revitalizing.
S
The
women
leaders
Forum,
which
is
more
of
a
Coachella
Valley
group.
That
group
was
went
dormant
during
covet,
like
so
many
other
organizations
and
was
down
to
almost
I
would
say
almost
zero
members
and
so
I
jumped
in
after
meeting
a
couple
of
the
people
who
were
trying
to
revitalize
that
and
became
actually
ended
up
serving
on
the
board
this
past
year
as
the
treasurer
and
the
vice
president
of
membership
and
helped
grow
that
pretty
quickly.
S
So
that's
been
a
wonderful
organization
to
work
with
and
has
given
me
a
broader
perspective
Beyond,
you
know
just
Palm
Springs
as
well,
so
I
think
you
know,
while
my
Civic
involvement
here
is
limited,
it's
certainly
not
limited
and
other
I've
been
on
numerous
boards
served
in
leadership
capacities
with
those,
and
you
know
most
of
that
experience
has.
You
know,
really
has
taught
me
how
to
work
in
a
board
environment
where
you
really
are
more
of
a
an
advisory
and
a
an
accountability
capacity.
S
S
If
that's
something
that
the
community
wants
to,
you
know
continue
to
maintain
in
some
shape
or
form,
and
so
I
feel
like
that,
working
with
teams
and
organizations
around
strategy
and
plan,
but
again
with
a
focus
on
executing
on
that.
Not
just
you
know,
hey
we've
got
a
great
plan
and
hopefully
we
can
execute
on
it.
You
know,
that's
that's
the
work
I've
done
for
years
and
years,
so
I
think
that's
one
thing
that
I
could
possibly
lend
to
the
committee.
A
S
S
You
know:
is
that
really
hitting
on
the
most
important
or
you
know,
contributing
to
the
most
important
needs
in
the
community
I'm.
Not
sure
of
that.
That's
something
I'd
want
to
try
to
really
understand
very
quickly
and
I.
I
know
you're
it's
on
a
two-year
budget
cycle,
and
so
we're
really
probably
would
be
starting
to
look
out
even
two
years
beyond
that,
but
just
understanding
as
a
team.
Are
these
the
things
understanding
from
Council
like
what's
most
important
to
you
as
well?
G
B
S
As
a
as
a
user,
correct,
well,
I
I
use
the
library
I'm,
a
big
Library
fan,
I.
Think,
as
you
read,
I
was
on
our
the
Indianapolis
Library
foundation,
so
very
involved
in
our
local
library
and
and
feel
like
that's
a
vital
resource,
and
so
that
was
one
of
the
first
places.
I
went
when
we
came
here
and
then,
of
course,
you
know,
checked
out
books
online
during
covet
and
so
I
have
you
know
I
just
follow
what
is
happening
with
various
organizations
such
as
that
we
utilize
the
parks.
S
You
know,
while
this
isn't
a
city
City
initiative,
where
we
live
right
across
the
street
from
the
Prescott
preserve,
and
so
you
know,
certainly,
while
that's
not
funded
by
the
city,
you
know
it's
it's
a
it's
a
Community
Asset
and
the
you
know
and
I
think
the
city
needs
to
obviously
know
everything
they
can
about
that
and
continue
to.
You
know,
stay
aligned
with
what
the
the
trust
is
doing,
but
yeah
we
utilize
pretty
much.
Everything
in
the
city,
I
would
think
I.
S
A
G
A
For
instance,
I
worked
on
Urban
Design
issues
with
my
professional
career
and
I
brought
some
of
those
concerns
over
to
Planning,
Commission
and
I.
Think
that
will
help
me
recognize
what
are
important
capital
projects
for
the
city.
In
addition,
through
my
work
with
the
city
over
the
last-
oh,
maybe
eight
years,
nine
years
because
I
was
on
Arc,
the
current
Planning
Commission
I
took
a
real
interest
in
trying
in
in
focusing
on
equity,
in
a
lot
of
the
decisions
I
made
having
to
do
with
Society
particular
projects.
A
The
time
I
spent
on
planet
Mission,
I
I,
was
able
to
understand
those
kind
of
issues
more
clearly
and
I
feel
very
strongly
about
that
and
I
also
just
have
a
a
great
love
of
Palm
Springs
and
my
grandparents
lived
here,
and
my
parents
lived
here.
All
right,
I've
been
a
part-time
resident
since
2005
and
then
a
full-time
resident
since
2010.,
so
I
think
those
three
things:
okay,.
F
G
A
A
J
Commissioner
I
would
focus
on
those
two
issues:
equity
and
funding
and
Urban
Design
from
from
the
city's
perspective,
not
from
a
private
developer's
perspective
and
beyond
that
I'd
like
to
see
if
there's
a
way
and
I'm
not
sure
this
is
totally
in
the
Wheelhouse
of
Mr
J
but
I'd
like
to
see.
If
there's
a
way
we
can
get
staff
or
Council
to
focus
on
certain
major
issues
and
pay
less
attention
to
issues
that
are
a
distraction
to
them
to
get
things
done.
F
F
A
Michael
welcome
next
question
is
a
standard
question
that
tell
us
about
your
Civic
and
wrong
and
how
that's
prepared
you
to
for
measure
Jay,
okay.
Well
again,
I
just
want
to
fall
back
on
the
last
two
questions,
because
they
kind
of
measure
that
in
for
you-
but
you
know,
I've,
served
on
a
lot
of
different
subcommittees
for
Council
I
listed
them
in
my
application.
A
J
A
A
A
Just
Michael
thanks
y'all,
and
thank
you
also
for
all
the
Russian
government
and
everything.
But
what
are
some
of
the
things
you
would
like
to
say?
Measure
J
go
towards
well
I'm,
as
I
put
my
application,
I'm
on
the
board
of
directors
and
Friends
of
the
Palm
Springs
Library.
So
we
absolutely
need
to
fund
additional
monies
for
the
library
now
I,
don't
know
where
that
fits
into
the
measure,
J,
wheelhouse
or
not.
But
that's
where
I'd
like
to
see
when
you
spend
I
I
know
this
sounds.
G
A
Again,
I'm
not
sure
this
falls
into
the
measured
day.
Wheelhouse,
but
I've
been
a
keen
Observer
of
the
downtown
park
and
I
worked
on
a
subcommittee
for
approval
of
the
park
design
and
from
an
urban
planning
standpoint.
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
project.
I
think
it
needs
some
help
along
the
edges
in
terms
of
what
uses
go
along.
The
edges
of
it
I
put
proposals
out
to
Flynn
to
provide
just
a
couple:
food
trucks
or
some
kind
of
seating
or
some
other
reason
for
people
to
be
there.
A
A
Yeah
I,
don't
think
so
either
yeah
and
we
spent
so
much
money
on
that.
There's
gotta
be
and
it's
new.
It's
not
like
the
Francis
Stevens
Park
Fountain,
where
it's
50
years
old,
it's
brand
new.
We
just
paid
for
the
thing
you
know
if
this
was
a
refrigerator
in
your
house,
you'd
be
suing
the
Westinghouse
early
yeah.
That's
the
noise.
A
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Yeah
I
mean
you
alluded
to
it
a
little
bit
in
some
of
your
previous
questions,
but
I'd
love
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
how
you
utilize
or
understand
the
state
of
our
city
facilities,
so
anything
from
Trails
Parks,
Community,
Center
Library.
You
know
how
have
you
experienced
our
city
infrastructure?
It
was.
A
A
A
A
But
if
I
had
known,
if
there
was
an
opening
in
library,
library,
trustees
and
then
I
was
turning
out
at
such
a
close
date
to
it,
I
think
I
would
have
replied
for
that,
but
there's
no
opening
stuff
but
I
applied
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
my
Equity
Focus
will
help
there
and
I
think
my
focus
on
the
downtown
part.
Very
helpfulness.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
all
right.
So
that's
it.
Thank.
G
B
A
C
N
Well,
hello:
first
of
all,
welcome
hello,
everyone
good
to
meet
you
all.
The
first
question:
I
I'm,
very
passionate
I
mean
I
just
developed
this
huge
I
mean
as
a
resident
a
proud
resident
of
Palm
Springs
I
want
to
serve
the
city
of
Palm.
Springs
I
want
to
be
able
to
be
to
continue
to
be
a
a
part
of
the
community
and
I
felt
that
measure
J
I
can
bring
up
a
lot
to
the
measure
to
to
the
committee
oversight
committee
and
I.
G
N
So
the
measure
is
provides
recommendations
from
the
one
percent
sales
tax
that
we
collect
and
to
be
able
to
analyze
what
we
have
from
the
measure
J
part
of
either
Parks
and
Recreation
fire
departments
or
Police
Department
or
even
the
roads.
It's
anything
that
would
improve
the
the
city
analyze
all
of
those
recommendations
that
from
residents
or
businesses
or
any
or
anyone
or
attendees,
and
be
able
to
provide
recommendations
to
you
as
a
city
council.
A
A
N
Yes,
I.
One
of
the
reasons
really
I
want
to
be
able
to
have
to
be
to
expand
my
Civic
involvements,
which
is
why
I
applied
to
to
the
measure.
J
I've
attended
a
lot
of
local
events,
a
lot
of
non-profit
organizations
of
fundraisers,
Boys
and
Girls
Club
and
dap
this
race
project
or
the
Center
Mother's
kitchen,
but
I
want
to
be
able
to
do
more
is
somebody
who
just
moved
the
city
but
for
20
2020,
January,
2020.
I.
N
J
N
N
Yeah,
what
I
thought
was
very
interesting
in
the
January
meeting
they
discovered
there
was
a,
for
example,
like
there's
a
law
or
a
rule
from
the
FFA
FAA
that
if
you
collect
taxes,
sales
taxes
from
the
airport,
that
you
cannot
use
that
funds
anywhere
else.
But
you
have
to
really
set
aside
and
use
it
specifically
for
airport
improvements
or
or
anything
Aviation
related
and
I
thought.
That
was
a
great
funding,
even
though
it's
from
2017.
N
B
N
I
think
everyone
can
tell
you
I'm
I'm
an
avid
pickleball
player,
so
I
I
go
to
the
mood
Park.
Quite
a
bit
and
I
I
see
the
improvements
from
major
J,
for
example,
the
the
upgrade
in
the
restrooms
and
the
shades
and
and
I
have
attended
a
maybe
one
or
two
major
J
meetings
to
to
ask
for
additional
courts
or
to
improve
on
the
existing
courts.
N
A
F
A
K
F
G
K
The
measure
check
commission
so
I've
only
just
recently
moved
to
Palm
Springs
within
the
last
year,
so
I
haven't
had
much
chance
to
do
our
Civics
activities.
So
I'd
like
to
start
start
here
really
like
I've
helped
in
other
towns,
have
said:
I've
done
more
work
back
in
England,
but
that
will
be
a
different
set
of
rules
and
regulations
than
you
guys
soon.
K
G
K
K
If
that
then
improved
it
got
them
back
into
like
a
reductive
member
of
society,
cost
like
saved
them,
14
000
a
year
and
then
generated
tax
revenue
later.
But
that
would
probably
like
that
project
wasn't
well
received
at
the
start
and
it
took
people
explaining
like
the
financial
long-term
effects
of
things
rather
than
just
we're
helping
people,
it's
helping
people
and
you
get
a
benefit
out
of
it.
So
I
think
my
understanding
of
those
kind
of
things
and
be
quite
beneficial
person,
so
I'm
very.
K
To
it,
I
think
the
one
thing
that
I've
quite
enjoyed
watching
it
it
was
like
I'll,
be
honest,
a
lot
to
watch,
but
it's
good.
Everybody
has
like
a
cohesive
idea
of
what
they
want
to
do
like
the
committee
works
well,
together,
I
haven't
seen
any
instances
where
it
made
me
not
want
to
join
the
committee,
so,
like
I,
don't
think
the
committee's
doing
anything
wrong.
It's
just
more
of
the
same
and
I'd
like
to
add
my
expertise
and
help
to
do.
K
Both
of
those
are
good,
like
I,
didn't
appreciate
how
good
the
Palm
Springs
parks
were
until
I
got
here
because
again
like
it's,
not
something
I'd
seen
until
I
got
here,
splash
pads,
that's
a
wonderful
invention,
didn't
know
those
existed,
but
but
it's
those
kind
of
parts
and
things
it's.
It's
inventive
uses
of
the
space,
it's
not
just
here's
some
grass
and
that's
it
so
so
I
think
it
does
well
the
distribution
from
what
I've
seen
of
the
funds.
K
B
K
So
my
experience
would
be
a
little
bit
unique
and
probably
not
the
same
as
anybody
else
now.
I
can't
drive
like
the
end
of
the
country
I've
taken
a
few
too
many
head.
Injuries
playing
rugby,
so
I
have
a
tendency
to
pass
out
in
cars.
So
driving
is
not
good.
I
would
say.
Your
public
transport
is
not
amazing.
G
K
B
K
Yes,
great,
if
you
could
have
been
applying
to
use
for
me
like
I'm,
quite
happy
to
help
because
God
probably
about
a
year
or
so
like
the
thoughts
and
other
things
that
need
to
be
done.
So
if
you've
got
stuff
even
as
a
receptionist
there'll
be
able
to
answer
the
phone
and
you
can
pretend
you've
got
a
British
Butler
I
I,
just
wanna,
like
I,
looked
at
some
of
the
volunteering
opportunities
and
you've
got
volunteer
firefighter
police
librarian
I
can't
remember
what
the
other
one
was,
but
so
I
came
to
volunteer
Felicity.
Thank.
K
B
G
Gonna,
just
sort
of
record
Lauren's
interviewing
right
now,
right,
yeah,
so
Lauren
is
paid
as
a
part-time
temp
employee
through
the
city
and
so
I
work
with
her,
so
I'm
not
legally
required
to
wear
cues
but
I'm
just
going
to
step
out
and
not
participate
in
her
interview.
I
think
it's
a
question
of
if
she'd
have
to
leave
that
position
in
order
to
serve
on
the
commission,
so
the
City
attorney
is
looking
into
it.
I
flagged
it
for
him.
Okay,
since
it
hadn't
been
planned
yet.
B
C
A
A
A
C
The
tourism
really
collapsed
and
measure
J
was
such
an
ingenious
solution,
and
it's
incredible
now
this
many
years
forward
to
see
what
improvements
have
been
made,
and
you
know
how
much
downtown
has
been
revitalized
and
just
how
much
just
how
much
good
has
really
come
to
the
community
through
this
fund.
So
I
would
like
to
serve
on
the
commission.
C
I
also,
you
know
now
work
for
the
Palm
Springs
cultural
center
and
one
of
our
most
popular
programs
movies
in
the
park
makes
use,
is,
you
know,
takes
place
in
the
downtown
park,
which
is
another
product
of
measure
J,
so
I've,
just
as
a
Palm
Springs
resident
scene.
It's
it's
good
use
and
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
that.
C
Do
you
see,
as
the
role
of
the
measure
J
Commission,
essentially
guiding
the
allocation
of
the
funds
and
also
being
in
tuned
with
residents
listening
to
their
priorities
and
their
needs
and,
in
you
know,
encouraging
folks
to
submit
proposals
for
Community,
initiated
projects
and
determining
you
know
the
best
use
of
these
funds?
Great.
Thank
you.
A
C
Members
I
also
spend
a
lot
of
time
researching
policy
researching
policy
in
other
cities
and
also
you
know,
reading
through
each
Council
agenda,
analyzing
items,
analyzing
issues,
preparing
questions,
writing
a
lot
of
basically
policy
briefs
for
council
member
hostage's
consideration
and
that
so
that's
been
that's
the
majority
of
my
work.
I've
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
I've
done
quite
a
work
on
a
few
different
city
council
campaigns
on
a
small
level.
J
C
That
Cultural
Center
I
am
good
at
reading
budgets
and
analyzing
them.
I
think
that
I
also
have
that
I
have
home,
not
skill
working
for
council
member
hostage's
office
as
well.
I
also,
you
know,
spend
it's
I,
don't
know
if
you
necessarily
call
it
a
technical
skill
but
again
I.
You
know,
I've
worked
a
lot
with
the
public
and
have
throughout
my
time
in
Palm
Springs,
either
through
council
member
holstich's
office
or
through
the
cultural
center.
You
know
a
lot
of
folks
have
a
lot
of
interest
in
our
programming.
H
A
C
I
think
that
you
know
an
issue.
That's
raised
a
lot
that
I've
also
seen
is
the
just
the
lack
of
communication
with
Council
and
the
difficulties
posed
by
that
you
know.
We
saw
that
a
lot
with
with
the
the
question
of
how
much
was
being
allocated
into
the
community
initiated
projects
fund,
which
is
an
incredibly
important
issue.
C
So
I
think
that
that
is.
Is
you
know
something
that
really
needs
to
be
resolved?
The
way
I?
Think
from
what
I
have
seen
the
commission
really
works
together?
Well,
so
I
don't
necessarily
see
any
any.
You
know
I,
don't
really
have
any
criticism
there,
but
it
just
I
think
that
continued
and
consistent
Outreach
with
community
members
and
consistent
feedback
from
Council
or
finding
more
ways
to
interpret
you
know,
did
not
interpret
it
into
incorporate
Council
participation
right.
B
Hi
Lauren
thanks
for
joining
us
from
Costa
Rica
I,
have
a
question
around
kind
of
your
experience
with
our
sitting
facilities,
especially
as
a
long
time
resident.
Can
you
share
how
you
utilize
or
understand
the
state
of
our
city
and
facility,
so
anything
from
Trails
Parks,
Library
kind
of
what's
been
your
experience
with
our
city
infrastructure.
C
I
am
really
thrilled
to
see
the
funding
for
the
library
moving
forward.
I
think
that
that's
going
to
be
exceptional
and
the
city
really
deserves
a
high-tech,
Library.
I
love
our
library.
It's
one
of
my
favorite
places,
I've
been
going
there
since
I
was
about
five
years
old,
but
that
that
I'm
happy
to
see
that
in
motion.
C
C
A
J
A
Sure
that
that
sort
of
happens
transparently
through
the
Sunset
of
Adventure.
Thank
you.
If
it
happens.
Thank
you
David
welcome,
thank
you.
Can
you
tell
us
about
your
Civic
involvement
in
Palm
Springs
and
how
that's
prepared
you
to
be
on
the
measure
today,
commission
sure
my
husband
and
I
bought
a
house
here
in
2016,
but
only
recently
became
full-time
at
the
end
of
201.
A
Sol,
a
good
organization
serving
as
treasurer
for
that
group
right
now
and
also
volunteer
at
the
animal
shelter
two
days
a
week,
sometimes
more
if
they
need
the
help
and
I
can
swing
it
and
then
I
also
did
the
community
police
academy
last
fall
and
I
think
that
ended
right
around
Thanksgiving,
which
was
a
great
experience
by
the
way.
In
case
you
probably
argue
for
that.
J
J
A
J
A
A
G
A
A
J
A
B
A
F
A
A
C
D
B
A
A
C
A
A
Try
to
do
work
for
the
city
of
Palm
Springs.
The
major
Jade
commission
has
always
been
of
interest
to
me
since
it
passed
and
I
think
it's
a
very
valuable
part
of
what
the
city
does
so
and
it's
something
I
think
with
my
background
and
experience
I've
had
in
construction
projects
and
that
sort
of
thing
that
I
could
my
experience
and
background
in
commissions
and
in
those
sorts
of
projects
could
be
beneficial
great.
Thank
you.
Hi
Jack.
G
A
And
improving
the
roads
and
transportation
system
and
Palm
Springs.
So
there's
a
lot
of
need
to
make
sure
that
the
what
the
major
J
commission
is
doing
and
the
funds
that
it's
using
are
for
Capital
Improvement
projects
and
that's
what
major
major
J
was
passed.
Pass
pass
for
initially
and
I.
I
know
from
seeing
some
of
the
most
current
meetings
that
there's
been
a
little
bit
of
stray
from
that
and
the
idea
is
to
bring
it
back
so
and
I
think
that's
very
important
because
it
increases.
A
On
that,
commission
is
the
training
that
occurred
for
all
of
the
members
or
all
of
the
staff,
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
on
cultural
humility,
and
that
was
something
that
had
not
been
done
before
and
I
had
some
resources
that
I
was
able
to
bring
to
bear
and
the
city
manager
at
the
time
David
ready
was
very
interested
in
it.
So
everything
from
police
and
fire
to
online
staff
were
able
to
participate
in
that.
So
I
think
that
was
something
that
I
was
able
to
bring
forward,
educate.
A
Of
the
city
about
and
to
bring
it
to
fruition,
also
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
working
for
over
10
years
with
the
Mizell
Senior
Center,
as
director
of
development,
I
was
on
the
board
of
directors
of
the
desert.
Business
Association
I
helped
found
the
desert
Pride
Community
Center,
which
later
kind
of
it's
hard
to
explain
how
it
happened,
but
it
is
now
the
gay
lesbian
center
here
in
Palm,
Springs
and
I've
worked
on
several
other
organizations.
A
Working
with
as
the
first
director
of
public
policy
for
Desert
AIDS
project
and
I
worked
for
Desert
AIDS
project
for
four
years.
At
the
time
I
started,
we
were
talking
with
congresswoman
Bono,
who
was
our
representative
here.
I
felt
that
it
was
important
that
we
engage
in
conversations
with
all
of
the
funders
for
both
Riverside
and
San
Bernardino,
which
at
that
time
was
the.
A
And
Democrat
and
to
meet
with
them
or
their
staff.
One
of
the
things
I'm
particularly
proud
of,
is
write.
An
extraordinary
list
was
the
chair
of
the
House
Appropriations
Committee,
Jerry
Lewis,
and
initially
he
wasn't
very
receptive
and,
as
we
worked
with
him
and
educated
him
about
the
issue,
we
met
with
them
personally,
every
time
going
to
Washington
DC
and
that's
kind
of
a
rare
occurrence,
you're
used
to
doing
that
kind
of
work
in
BC,
so
I
think
I.
A
A
F
A
A
A
Start
start
thinking
about
how
to
I
think
continue
it
because
I
think
it
would
be
a
significant
impact
to
the
city
of
Palm
Springs
instability
to
fund
Capital
Improvement
projects
throughout
the
city
without
those
funds
from
Matrix
J
and,
in
fact,
I
think
Palm
Springs
has
taken
the
lead
because
I've
seen
many
other
cities
in
the
valley
do
the
same
thing.
You
know
that's
a
good
value.
A
A
If
Capital
Improvement
projects
can
help,
for
instance,
North
Palm
Springs
in
terms
of
providing
that
impetus
for
private
developers
to
come
in
that
they're
not
going
to
have
to
pay
for
all
the
infrastructure,
the
some
of
the
infrastructure
can
be
covered
through
major
J
funds.
I
think
that's
a
real
opportunity
to
spread
the
impact
and
the
value
of
major
major
J's
throughout
the
entire
city.
A
A
And
what
do
you
do
with
the
budget
with
what
comes
in
there's
a
lot
less
than
what
you
anticipated
and
so
I
think,
providing
some
trainings
and
education
for
citizens
in
the
North
End
of
Palm
Springs
on
this
process
of
how
they
can
bring
Community
projects
to
their
Community
to
help
take
pride
in
their
community
that
they're
that
the
city
is
paying
attention
and
they
have
a
hand
in
that
in
in
driving
that
and
and
seeing
the
results.
Great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
A
Palm
Springs
is
one
of
the
oldest
cities
in
the
valley
and
I.
Think
it's
facing
the
same
issues
of
a
lot
of
older
structures
are
facing
in
terms
of
Americans
with
disability,
yet
compliance
I
think
the
library
is
long
past
due
for
refurbishment
or
rebuilding,
and
the
plan
for
I
think
incorporating
it
into
the
College
of
the
Desert
campus
is
probably.
A
I
think
also
I'll
be
honest
with
you
roads
on
the
streets,
East
Palm
Canyon
is
both
the
introduction
and
the
exit
for
a
lot
of
people
coming
into
and
out
of
Palm
Springs
and
I
use
it
a
lot.
It's
a
washboard
and
I
think
I
hear
a
lot
of
complaints
from
people
not
only
about
that
main
thoroughfare,
but
some
of
the
other
streets
I
think
it
pains
some
more
attention
and
prioritizing
the
street
projects
in
the
city
is
also
very
important.
A
Plus
I
know
that
you
know
we
have
our
Parks
and
Recreation
and
again
being
an
older
City.
There
are
there's
projects
that
need
to
restore
me,
our
parks
and
our
recreational
facilities
to
bring
them
up
to
par.
They
may
have
been
state-of-the-art,
30
or
40
years
ago.
Today
they
need
work,
so
I
think
they're.
A
B
C
G
A
C
B
B
B
The
motivation
behind
my
question
is
really
making
sure
that
on
the
commission,
we
have
people
who
are
using
our
cities
in
different
ways
who
are
utilizing
different
kinds
of
businesses
who
move
in
our
city
in
different
ways,
because
they
have
a
really
unique
perspective
as
to
kind
of
what,
like
some
gaps,
be
and
I.
Think
previous
commissions
or
you
know
any
anybody
who
kind
of
moves
and
lives
in
the
same
ways.
B
It's
not
going
to
be
able
to
truly
understand
investment
needs
of
areas
of
the
cities
that
they're
not
producing
as
well.
So
I
would
just
really
underscore
that,
and
but
I
really
appreciated
the
preparation
of
all
the
candidates.
They
really
kind
of
understood
how
they
either
through
kind
of
their
own
personal
experience,
wanted
to
improves
some
Community
public
spaces
or
even
just
how
their
own
professional
experience
would
be
valuable.
So,
just
a
really
solid
group
of
people
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
them.
Okay,.
B
A
young
lady
of
one
hiccup,
her
name
is
a
Julie.
She
actually
applied
for
me,
she's
not
in
front
of
you.
She
applied
for
the
appeals
board,
but
she's
saying
she
meaning
to
she
was
meaning
to
apply
for
a
major
day
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
you
know
and
I
told
her.
We
didn't
have
a
slide.
I
don't
have
any
openings.
So
it's
kind
of
open
to
you
all.
B
B
G
We
should
just
make
sure
I
would
love
to
know
what
the
website
looks
like,
because
it
seems
like
we're
having
this
mistake,
a
lot
where
people
are
unsure
of
what
they
applied
for
or
they
clicked
the
wrong
one,
and
so
it
seems
like
a
pattern
and
not
like
an
application
fault.
So
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
Like
you
know,
we
want
to
make
sure
people
are
getting
into
the
buckets
of
commissions,
they're
interested.
B
They
get
a
copy
of
it.
You
know
we
do
have
our
application
where
she
actually
selected.
Let
me
goes
forward,
so
we
are,
you
know,
working
to
move
toward
a
new
software
would
prescribed
that
would
totally
revamp
what
that
application
process
looked
like
and
what
the
application
looked
like,
because
it
does
look.
It's
jammed
up
when
I
look
at
your
application,
it
it's
like
everything.
Everything
is
hard,
it's
hard
to
follow,
so
you
know
just
at
all
fairness.
A
B
G
G
B
B
G
Good
thanks,
that's
helpful
and
then
any
other
Naomi
and
I
have
served
on
a
board
together
and
so
on.
We
do
recruitment
for
that
board.
We
think
of
like
our
financial
skills
needed
or
right
so
do
you
have
that's
really
helpful,
so
it
sounds
like
we're
losing
like
the
Deep
City
experience.
Yeah,
the
longer
term.
B
B
Yeah
so
yeah.
Well,
we
thought
we
were
going
to
be
slimming
down
so
there
was
it
hadn't
been
built
in
a
couple
years
so
and
because
of
that,
you
know
thinking
ahead
a
year
from
now
you
know,
quite
a
few
of
us
are
going
to
term
out
right,
and
so
you
and
Brian
me
and
Brian
yeah,
so
it'll
really
just
be
Mark
and
Linda
yeah
right
who
are
still
going
to
be
on
the
commission
two
years
from
now.
B
H
G
A
Her
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here.
The
first
question
we
have
for
you-
and
this
is
on
YouTube
streaming
first
question
we
have
for
you
is:
why
do
you
want
to
serve
on
the
hspv
commission
I
recently
attended
the
preservation
matter
Symposium
and
found
it
very
energizing
and
sitting
through
some
of
the
sessions
it
occurred
to
me
that
I
have
a
long
history
of
working
with
this.
G
A
There
is
an
advising
consent
portion
to
this,
but
there
is
also
the
other,
the
other
matter,
I'm,
actually
looking
at
applications
and
making
an
informed
decision
on
whether
or
not
they
informed
to
the
standards
and
rules
that
are
set
up
and
must
be
applied
fairly
in
the
ability
across
the
board
to
different
applicants.
Great
great,
thank
you
Jeffrey,
incredibly
impressive
background
that
you
have
in
terms
of
Civic
involvement
in
Palm
Springs.
Are
there
specific
initiatives
of
focus
and
we've
been
involved
in
that
will
help
you?
A
Should
you
be
selected
for
the
historic
side,
participation
report?
The
basic
answer
is
no
I
retired.
In
2020
there
was
a
lockdown
I
moved
here
and
the
one
thing
that
I
have
become
involved
in
is
Desert
X.
The
international
site-specific
organization,
which
again
I
found
to
be
a
very
positive
and
interesting
experience,
I'm
certain.
With
your
background
and
getting
involved
in
the
most
recent
program
that
we've
had
we've
had
an
opportunity.
J
A
Well,
I've
had
experience
in
a
wide
variety
of
issues
and
reviews
that,
over
the
course
of
my
nearly
30
years,
working
for
the
city
of
Los
Angeles,
again
I'm,
not
surprised,
you're,
asking
the
same
question
to
everybody
that
that
standard
operating
procedure
but
I
have
worked
with
the
Los
Angeles
cultural
heritage
commission,
which
does
basically
it's
a
mirror.
Commission
of
in
my
understanding
of
what
this
board
does,
but
I've
also
worked
with
I
I.
A
I
also
am
very
involved
in
the
actual
preservation
methods
having
gone
through
an
1850
Victorian
Mansion
in
Los,
Angeles,
less
restoration
and
then
spent
five
years
working
on
Frank,
Lloyd,
Wright's,
hollyhock
house
and
so
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
I
bring
to
the
table
is
when
a
plan
is
presented.
I
can
look
at
it
and
know
what
questions
he
asked
and
how
to
how
to
tease
out
the
information
that
is
necessary
in
order
to
make
the
best
decision
for
that
particular
application.
A
I
also
have
worked
with
a
lot
of
agencies
outside
the
department
of
cultural
Affairs,
including
the
National
Park
Service,
and
the
Frank
Lloyd
Wright
building,
Conservancy
of
which
I
am
on
the
executive
committee
there
and
have
been
for
a
number
of
years
and
in
in
that
particular
capacity
again.
We're
looking
at
preservation
issues
focused
entirely,
of
course,
on
the
work
of
Frank
Lloyd
Wright,
but
it's
a
nice.
A
J
A
You
have
you
seen
any
of
the
meetings.
Have
you
watched
them.
I
did
watch
a
zoom
meeting
it.
It
was
an
interesting
meeting
there
were
there
wasn't
much
of
a
clear
way
of
discussion
on
this
one
I've
seen
that's
everything.
Just
went
very
smoothly,
which
was
nice
but
yeah
that
you
went
to
preservation
matters,
great
overview
of
players.
D
A
And
that
that's
what
sparked
Me
by
intro
and
I
thought
about
it
for
a
while
and
thought
okay,
I'm
retired.
Is
this
what
I
want
to
do,
because
this
is
going
to
require
commitment
and
time
and
it
just
seemed
like
the
more
I
thought
about
it:
the
better,
hey,
the
better,
it
felt
to
say:
okay,
yes,
I
I
will
put
my
app
my
hat
in
the
ring.
I'll
make
an
application,
we'll
see
what
happens.
A
G
A
If
you
will
permit
me
to
use
that
term
that
it
it
just
overrode
any
other
consideration
as
time
went
along
and
other
projects
came
along
because
barnstall
Art
Park
is
a
12-acre
city
park
in
the
center
of
a
36
acre
plot
of
four
city
blocks,
which
was
all
owned
by
the
same
person
at
one
time
and
was
all
to
be
developed
as
this
art
colony.
Well,
it
was
sold
off
by
The,
Heirs
Etc,
and
now
we
have
a
we
have
the
park.
A
A
Which
has
to
do
with
the
architecture
and
the
way
it's
laid
out,
and
this
was
also
there
were
two
other
Pro-
the
three
other
projects
in
this
area
right
adjacent
to
us
that
I
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
with
developers,
and
the
interesting
thing
is
that
I
found
that
that
it
was
developers
come
to
the
table.
Generally
speaking
with
you
know
their
their
perfect
scenario,
knowing
that
they're
going
to
have
to
do
some
number
crunching
and
change
the
square
footage
and
and
make
some
adjustments.
A
A
G
G
F
A
So
just
saying
the
mayor
just
had
to
step
out
for
a
minute:
she'll
be
back
and
I'm
Jeffrey
Bernstein,
and
this
is
on
on
YouTube.
We
only
have
10
minutes
so
we're
gonna.
Ask
you
a
question
the
same
questions
that
we've
asked
everybody
very
good,
so
I
will
start
out
with.
Why
do
you
want
to
serve
on
hspb.
D
A
D
D
H
A
D
J
M
J
D
D
A
F
D
D
A
D
D
A
K
F
C
A
A
C
A
You
have
the
full
city
council
here
and
their
city
clerk
Brenda
pre,
so
we
have
10
minutes
to
go
over
some
standard
questions
that
we're
asking
all
of
the
candidates,
and
so
once
those
10
minutes
are
up,
that's
the
that's
it
so
keep
your
answers,
succinct
and
we
are
gonna
just
start
off
with.
Why
do
you
want
to
serve
on
the
historic
preservation
board
as
an
architecture?
A
Most
of
my
experience
has
been
restoration.
I've
got
taken,
abandoned
buildings,
kind
of
my
International
Rescue
historic
places,
I'm
restored
buildings
and
in
the
past,
Incorporated
building
parts
of
buildings
into
new
buildings
in
order
to
keep
things
like
one
embarrass
age,
building
our
Louis
Sullivan
in
Chicago,
where
we're
standing
down
the
Old
Stock
Exchange
I
got
the
record.
Allow
me
to
make
some
copies
of
part
of
the
cast
and
I
reused.
Those
expand
your
panels
in
one
of
them.
H
A
G
F
A
Well,
my
experience
in
Palm
Springs
is
none
I'm,
tired
out
here
just
two
years
ago
and
again,
my
experiences
I
did
some
developing
I
have
a
son,
who's,
A,
Portrait
Painter
and
a
sculpture
in
Florence
Italy
and
he's
come
and
worked
on
one
project
for
me
and
we've
been
calm
capitals
and
profiles
that
gets
an
American
artists
and
a
project
that
was
called
artist
Square
in
other
ones.
I've
done
I've
brought
some
pictures,
I
didn't
know
exactly
what.
A
Thank
you
bye
in
coming
here
and
we're
wanting
to
work
on
the
historic
psych
preservation
board.
What
are
some
of
the
connections
that
you
have
that
will
allow
you
to
work
effectively
with
the
communities
here.
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
any
real
connection
with
people.
I
have
an
open
mind.
I've,
always.
A
J
A
A
Have
you
did
you
go
to
the
the
preservation
matters
Symposium?
They
did.
Basically
me,
oh
okay,
what
I
mean
you
have
a
lot
of
great
background
to
get
involved
with
the
Historic
Site
preservations.
Do
you
do
you
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
historic
president
what
the
preservation
means
to
Palm
Springs
though
well?
Yes,
again,.
L
F
F
A
C
A
A
F
C
A
F
F
D
F
F
G
A
T
I've
been
coming
to
Palm
Springs
for
probably
30
years,
I've
owned
in
Palm
Springs
for
almost
10
and
I've
lived
here
for
two
and
I.
Just
continue
to
the
more
I
learn
the
more
I
Fall
In
Love,
just
I'm
an
architect
currently
with
a
firm
in
Chicago
but
live
in
Palm
Springs
full
time
and
as
I've
lived
here,
I've
come
to
appreciate
things
more
and
more.
T
The
the
preservation
matters
symposiums
watching
what's
happening
at
the
Plaza
theater
I'm,
a
volunteer
at
the
art
museum
and
so
I've
been
keeping
track
of
the
illuminaire
house
and
I'm
fascinated
by
what
that's
going
to
be
or
do
or
become
so
just
the
longer
I'm.
Here,
the
more
I'm
interested
and
the
more
I
see
the
more
I
like,
and
that's
just
compelled
me
to
become
more
involved.
G
A
T
J
T
Aside
from
just
being
a
pure
to
the
core
lifetime,
historical
architecture
fan
my
professional
experience,
particularly
in
Chicago
I've
lived
in
Atlanta
and
Miami
and
Detroit
are
doing
the
same
kinds
of
things.
The
just
my
experience
of
helping
navigate
the
process
between
the
municipal
government's
developments,
clients,
I,
get
a
I,
have
a
pretty
good
picture,
a
pretty
good
sense
of
the
bigger
picture.
It's
not
just
any
one
thing,
but
you're
constantly
juggling
between
multiple
things.
T
I've
worked
with
consulting
firms
in
Chicago
Benjamin,
historical
Consulting
is
a
big
one
on
a
number
of
projects
getting
Landmark
status
for
the
project
before
we
begin
restoration,
so
the
client
buys
the
house.
We've
done
that
on
buildings,
up
to
buildings,
from
the
1950s
in
the
suburbs
of
Chicago
and
I've
been
involved
in
that
helping
research,
helping
navigate
the
client
side
versus
the
Consulting
side
versus
what
the
government
is
looking
for.
So
I
have
that
experience.
A
T
I
am
impressed
by
what
has
gone
right.
I
like
that
Plum
Springs,
as
opposed
to
coming
from
a
bigger
place,
Atlanta
Chicago
Atlanta.
It
seems
they
just
wanted
to
bulldoze
everything.
Chicago
has
a
developed,
a
decent
balance
but
I'm
impressed
by
how
much
how
aware
Palm,
Springs,
Council
and
citizens
are
and-
and
it
it's
very
reassuring
to
me.
It
just
makes
me
very
happy
that
you
all
are
doing
a
great
job,
I,
think,
just
more
of
that,
the
trick
is
going
to
be.
T
Of
course,
how
do
you
maintain
Palm
Springs
for
what
it
is?
You
know
this
lovely
beautiful,
historically
significant,
Resort
cultural.
How
do
you
maintain
that
and
still
allow
for
development?
So
I
think
that's
the
development
side
of
it
is
the
real
trick.
Anyone
can
sort
of
say
that's
an
important
building
and
stamp
it
and
freeze
it.
But
how
do
you
allow
a
commercial
building
to
learn
and
to
evolve?
Is
a
really
tricky
thing
and
I
find
that
fascinating,
I
think
so
far
it's
been
pretty
well
done
here.
A
G
T
A
T
A
A
You're
here
with
the
full
city
council,
our
city,
clerk,
Brenda,
pre
and
then
Kathy
we're
much
or
the
Planning
Commission.
We
have
just
10
minutes
for
your
interview,
we're
asking
the
same
standard
questions
to
everyone,
so
we're
gonna.
Oh,
this
is
also
streaming
on
YouTube.
So
the
the
first
question
for
you
is:
why
do
you
want
to
serve
on
the
Planning
Commission.
Q
I
I
think
I'm
gonna
blame
Jeff,
of
course,
for
getting
me
involved
in
City
politics
about
seven
or
eight
years
ago,
starting
with
the
Ethics
Committee
and
and
ever
since
then
I've
been
involved
on
commissions
and
other
things
throughout
the
City
ad
hoc
groups,
working
with
the
spoon
stadium
and
stuff.
So
I've
worked
a
lot
with
planning
with
our
new
development
here
at
dap
and
also
with
some
of
our
partners,
Monarch
and
West
Hollywood
developers,
so
I've
had
a
lot
of
experience.
Q
Dealing
with
our
Planning
Commission
and
Phil
I
would
be
an
excellent
addition
to
that.
With
my
background
in
development
and
legal
and
working
with
the
county,
I
also
had
to
work
with
our
County
Supervisors
to
get
the
approval
for
this
development,
so
I've
actually
gone
through
the
entire
process,
from
development
to
almost
conclusion
on
affordable
housing
projects
and
totaling
up
to
three.
At
this
point,.
Q
Well,
commissions
are
advisory
in
nature;
they
advise
city
council.
They
are
sort
of
the
the
on
the
ground
front
line
workers
who
interact
with
the
public
and
those
who
are
trying
to
bring
something
to
the
city
and
it's
sort
of
the
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
making
the
sausage
and
preparing
it
to
deliver
it
to
the
council
when
it's
prepared
to-
and
we
are,
the
voice
of
the
citizens
and
I
also
am
very
involved
with
one
PS
and
are
anytime
there's
a
new
development.
You
know
we
all
get
together
and
we
discuss
well.
Q
J
Q
Expand
I
mean
there's
still
a
whole
list
of
groups.
I'm
attached
to
boards
I
serve
on
of
packs
I'm
on,
so
it's
the
whole
a
lot
of
political
affiliations,
and
the
the
benefit
of
that,
though,
is
to
make
sure
that
the
the
Citizens
Voice
is
being
heard.
We're
very
fortunate
here
we're
a
smaller
City
and
city
council
is
very
keen
to
the
voice
of
the
population.
Now,
let's
say,
for
example,
back
we
were
looking
into
got
what
was
it
measure
B
for
the
airbnbs?
Q
That
was
a
prime
example
of
let's
hear
what
both
sides
of
the
argument
are.
What
the
Realtors
and
landlords
are
people
that
want
to
you
know
own
these
properties
and
have
them
for
rent
versus
the
neighborhoods
for
I
live,
and
there
are
several
of
my
block
and
how
that
affects
my
quality
of
life.
So
it's
really
being
open
to
the
voice
of
the
public
and
reacting
to
the
needs.
The
public,
as
we
see
best,
fits
the
majority
of
our
citizens.
Q
J
Q
Again,
I've
worked
in
development
here
at
DP
for
low-income
housing
we've
our
project
as
long
as
as
well
as
West's
Hollywood
development
and
Monarch.
So
I've
had
the
entire
exposure
from
going
to
to
the
County
Supervisors
to
get
permission
going
working
with
the
FAA
to
get
access
for
building
close
to
the
Airport
runway.
Active
runways
I've
worked
with
all
the
engineering
firms
to
from
from
working
with
flood
control
and
dry
utilities.
So
it's
the
whole
soups
and
nuts
experience
for
developing.
So.
A
Q
But
I
I
think
from
from
the
citizens
point
of
view.
The
only
pushback
we
will
hear
would
be
that
delayed
delayed
construction.
That's
the
one
thing
most
citizens
see
and
are
concerned
about
projects
to
get
started
and
never
get
finished
or
never
really
even
get
started.
They
you
know,
fence
off
an
area.
We
have
a
golf
course
over
here
in
our
neighborhood,
as
you
know
that
went
fallow
and
developers
have
been
reluctant.
Q
So,
but
in
recent
times
this,
this
Council,
the
city
in
general,
has
become
a
little
more
aggressive
and
forcing
our
future
developers
to
you
know
prove
that
they
have
Bond.
They
have
the
funding.
I'll
say
it.
Take
Dream
hotel
for
an
example
that
you
know
say
now:
that's
like
every
quarter.
You
have
to
prove
you
have
the
financing
to
go
forward
so
I
think
that's
something
that
has
been
done
right
to
rectify
that
other
issue.
Q
That
was
my
only
concern
with
it
as
well,
and
I
actually
have
had
started
to
phase
off
of
some
other
board
commissions,
just
as
my
natural
time
has
ended,
so
that
has
freed
up
time.
So
I
feel
that
would
allow
me
to
participate.
But,
as
you
see
the
six
years,
I
was
on
sustainability.
I
think
I
missed
two
meetings
six
years
so
I'm.
G
A
A
We're
just
going
to
start
off
with.
Why
do
you
want
to
serve
on
the
historic
preservation
company
I
come
from
the
East
Coast,
where
preservation
is
pretty
huge,
I
own
a
home
in
Provincetown,
you
know,
Cape
Cod
is
extremely
alert,
so
I've
been
part
of
we're
not
on
committees,
but
I've
had
in
front
of
companies
many
times.
A
A
So
it
has
to
be
looked
at,
and
so
you
learn
a
lot.
What
can
be
done
in
campus
one?
And
then
you
hear
when
you
live
in
Provincetown.
It
gets
a
lot
worse
because
we
have
homes
that
were
floated
over
and
they're
flagged
they've
Built
Homes
and
floated
them
over
to
Provincetown
and
those
would
have
special
placards
and
there
wasn't
much
you
could
do
with
those
home.
A
A
That's
everything
from
concept
to
Market,
so
that's
working
with
the
trends
that's
working
with!
What's
buyers
are
looking
for
and
products
and
how
to
Source
it
and
then
from
soup
to
done
so
whatever
this
is
people
think
it's
easy,
but
it's
not
so
easy
when
it's
starting
because
there's
a
lot
that
has
to
do
with
it
and
there's
a
lot
of
laws
behind
it
and
things
that
you
have
to
look
at
and
so
I
have
a
background
of.
You
know:
Soup
To,
Nuts
of.
A
It-
and
this
is
what
will
help
it
set
so
going
back
so
now
here
you
want
me:
I
want
to
be
on
the
historical
committee.
I
love
this
History
Month
I
was
a
furniture
by
at
one
point
and
developer,
and
it
was
my
favorite.
It
was
my
favorite
category.
It
sold
the
best
and
the
first
time
I
ever
came
here.
I
was
just
in
awe,
which
was
like
in
2015.
I
came
for
six
weeks
to
see
if
I
would
like
it
just
to
get
away
for
the
winter
from.
A
Swamp
area
that
was
important,
I'm,
like
so
important,
they
were
all
like
the
house
never
should
have
been
villain.
It's
not
my
fault,
you
know
so
guidelines
I
mean
you
learn
to
understand
the
guidelines
kept
the
town
really
gorgeous,
and
so
you
know
you
walk
around
Palm,
Springs
and
I,
see
what's
going
on
I,
just
like
to
make
sure
that
it
stays
to
what
it
was
bounded.
You
know
by
why
people
come
here
and
you
know
just
look
at
them.
Have
you
been
to
any
of
the
hspb
meetings
here?
A
I
have
not
actually
yeah,
it
is
I
could
imagine
how
I
mean
have
sitting
in
them.
You
could
imagine
I
used
to,
especially
in
Provincetown
I.
Wasn't
you
weren't
alone?
You
sat
and
you
heard
everything
and
it
was
kind
of
like
you
know
it
was
you
learned
a
lot
there's
a
lot
to
learn.
I
mean
I
had
been
reading
over
things
I'm
like
I
hope
they
don't
ask
me
about
all
these
codes.
A
Two
minutes:
okay,
so
what
do
you
think?
Palm
Springs
has
gotten
right
and
wrong
in
terms
of
preservation,
I
believe
I
think
what
they've
gotten
right
is
and
I'm
only
looking
at
it
from
living
here
full
time.
The
past
few
years,
I
think
the
preservation
of
any,
especially
with
the
when
you
think
of
Palm
Springs,
and
you
know
anything
about
mid-century,
modern.
It's
like
the
Wexler
and
The
Fray
houses
and
what
you've
done
with
those
and
how
they're
a
big
part
of
mid-century.
A
A
A
Yeah,
it's
development
of
preservation,
I
think
it's
a
working
environment.
You
know
it's
PM
I
would
assume
that
who's
ever
developing.
Something
would
know
that
they're
coming
into
what
everybody
that
lives
here
feels
is
an
historical
there's,
a
lot
of
history
here,
I'm,
not
a
lot,
but
they
want
to
make
it
that
way
and
keep
small
history
here.
I
mean
it
is
pretty
small,
but
you
know
it's
keeping
the
consistency
because
it
can
go
out
of
whack
very
quickly.