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From YouTube: Measure J Commission | May 2021
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Palm Springs Measure J Commission Meeting - May 20th, 2021
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J
Good
evening
I'm
going
to
go
through
this
quickly.
We
have
a
lot
of
projects
to
talk
about
so
cur
year.
To
date,
we
are
at
11
million
156
compared
to
prior
year,
at
the
same
period
of
10
million
596,
and
today
I
went
and
looked
at
just
curious
where
we
were
in
2019
and
we
were
at
10
million
562.,
so
we're
even
ahead
of
2019.
I
I
I
J
Correct,
I
don't
know
what
about
the
four
point.
Oh
yeah.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
you
are
correct.
So
again,
once
we
know
I
highlighted
in
yellow,
because
that
already
has
been
approved
by
council,
the
other
ones
are
recommended
and
should
be
approved
at
the
next
council
meeting
or
adopted
at
the
end
of
june.
B
K
There
was
an
interest
from
the
group
to
have
the
more
detailed
backup
sheets
for
each
project
and
that
you
get
that
early
so
included
in
your
packet
was
each
project's
like
what
I
call
a
detailed
sheet
that
kind
of
gives
the
location
the
project
description,
the
project
justification
some
of
our
cost
estimates
and
then
how
we
program
that
project
within
the
next
five
years.
So
I
did
focus
because
these
are
so
many
pages
of
documents.
I
did
focus
on
year,
one
and
then
I
also
gave
you
year
two
measure
j
projects.
K
I,
in
the
interest
of
time
I
didn't
want
to
go
and
talk
about
every
single
one
of
these
projects,
but
more
if
you
had
more
questions
on
a
specific
project,
I
think
that
would
be
a
better
use
of
our
time
or,
if
you
feel
like
some
of
the
year,
two
projects,
you
know
are
worth
bringing
forward
the
ones
been
bold,
that's
the
kind
of
discussion
or
direction.
I
was
hoping
to
get
from
today's
meeting
so.
E
I'll,
if
I
could
just
start
out
with
with
two
quick
comments,
dom
this,
these
detail
sheets
are
very
helpful,
particularly
with
the
notes,
but
I
think
I
think
this
will
be
intellectual
ammunition
for
us
to
be
more
responsive
to
you
and
your
colleagues
and
then,
in
addition,
just
sort
of
let's
call
it
this.
I
guess
this
is
a
question
more
than
anything,
the
additional
items
for
year,
two,
the
bull,
the
bold
items.
E
K
E
K
K
So
the
only
new
one,
I
guess,
would
be
the
arnico
track
sewer
phase
four
which,
if
some
of
you
know
when
that
article
track
was
built,
each
cul-de-sac
was
using
cdbg
money
to
fund
the
sewer
being
doped
in
each
cul-de-sac
and
so
there's
five
different
streets
in
that
particular
track.
We
did,
I
think
we
did
four
of
them
in
three
phases
using
cdbg
funds
but,
however,
in
2010,
that
census
track
felt
a
lot
of
being
eligible
for
community
development
broadcast
funds.
K
H
K
It
wasn't
really
coming
for
before
the
measure
j
commission
fire
department
has
received
some
like
safety
grant
funding
for
towards
this
tower.
They
have
received
some
donations
towards
this
tower,
and
so
the
city
was
trying
to
build
it
just
based
on
those
funds.
Once
we
finally
got
the
final
design
completed,
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
need
about
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
more.
K
J
K
J
J
I
I
mean
putting
them
into
the
different
years
as
opposed
to
having
them
all
up
front
when
they're
not
used,
but
is
it
like
the
park?
Restaurants
victorian
hardy
with
hardy
park
that
will
take
two
years
to
complete
and
the
once
the
lighting
is
all
designed
that
will
take
two
years
as
well
in
their
ballparks.
I
was
just
confused
by
some
of
these
things,
and
the
roundabout
is
is
a
five-year
project.
K
K
I
K
K
Four,
we
might
need
a
lot
of
money
and
then
we'll
spread
it
out
over
two
years,
but
as
we
move
each
year
so
the
the
year
one
is
very
accurate
year.
Two
are
some
projections,
three
becomes
as
you
go
further
out.
You
know
we're
just
kind
of
I
wouldn't.
What
I'm
trying
to
say
is.
I
wouldn't
pay
too
much
attention
to
those
outer
years.
J
And
just
so,
you
know
this
is
since
it's
the
first
year
of
the
five-year
project,
it's
going
to
be
moving
so
every
year
we're
going
to
update,
keep
updating
it
every
year.
So
if
some
projects
come
in
lower,
we
can
maybe
move
another
project
up
a
couple
years
or
two
so
the
first
year,
it's
always
nice
to
have
a
a
future
of
where
we're
going
with
these
projects,
where
they're
not
going
to
be
set
in
stone,
does.
J
J
So
every
year
they
have
to
reapprove
these
projects
five-year
projects
just
because
they
approve
the
five-year
project.
They're,
really
only
improving
the
current
new
year's
budget,
so
we
also
want
to
look
at
like
what
is
the
cash
flow.
So
these
are
based
upon
what
we
know
and
there's
the
unknown
like
we
did
with
coven,
I
mean
what,
if
we
get
it's,
what
if
we
get
another
5
million
more
than
we
anticipated?
Well,
then
we
could
allocate
some
of
that
that
extra
money
to
move
the
projects
up.
I
I
I
J
Also,
you
know
we
sometimes.
What
we
want
to
do
is
if
a
project's
five
million
dollars,
we
can't
afford
it
in
the
first
year
we're
going
to
budget
for
it
to
build
up
the
money
so
that
we
can
at
the
time
that
the
project
is
ready
to
go.
We
have
the
funds
for
it
rather
than
going
out
and
maybe
getting
a
bond.
So
this
is
better
planning
for
a
project.
I
J
K
C
K
But,
but
what
I
wanna,
maybe
might
be
helpful
is
just
because
a
project
is
listed
in
two
different
fiscal
years.
It
doesn't
mean
it's
going
to
take
two
years
to
build
the
project.
It
just
means
that
some
funds
are
going
to
come
from
two
different
fiscal
years
and
then
the
guesswork
as
far
as
when
will
a
project
get
built,
it
is
very
volatile.
I
mean
I
would
be
changing
this
spread
or
this
booklet
every
day.
K
If
I
had
to
keep
up
with
it
going
to
be
in
year,
four,
is
it
going
to
be
in
your
five?
Is
it
going
to
be
your
two?
You
know
it
it's
so
many
moving
parts.
You
know
this
booklet
is
kind
of
like
a
snapshot.
That's
how
we
look
at
it.
We
do
intend
to
update
it
regularly
when,
like
we
do
a
mid-year
budget
adjustment-
or
you
know
if
we
did
a
two-year
budget
and
we
were
doing
the
first
of
this
budget,
but
but
it's
not
it's
kind
of
like
a
living
document.
K
A
And
I
think
maybe
another
thing
that
we
can
do
in
our
own
in
discussions
is
kind
of
referred
to
the
priority,
and
I
think
you
note
the
priority
as
essential
within
a
year
and
necessary
within
one
to
three,
and
so
we
can
say
the
the
roundabout
looks
like
you
know,
a
necessary
project
that
will
happen.
You
know,
it'll
trigger
us
to
remember
necessary
is
not
immediate,
but
we're
kind
of
building
out
the
reserves.
A
I
think
what
gets
tricky,
if
there's
any
necessary
projects
that
are
going
to
be
more
than
three
years
out,
which
is
definitely
possible,
but
at
least
we're
kind
of
building
that
into
our
own
discussion.
In
case
we
have
any
community
members
who
ever
watch
this
or
I
I
think
what
I
do
agree
with
some
of
the
reservation
of
jeffrey
is
that
if
we're
talking
about
a
project
at
least-
and
it's
not
even
happening
for
several
years-
sometimes
community
members
like
haven't-
we
been
working
on
this
project
for
years
and
there's
nothing
done
right.
A
So
I
I
think,
for
me,
it'd
just
be
helpful
to
kind
of
have
some
type
of
consistent
language
we're
saying
yeah.
It
is
a
priority,
but
we're
not
we're
just
we're
building
up
the
reserve
for
it
and
it's
unnecessary
not
essential
or
whatever
we
want
to
use.
But
I
appreciated
that
kind
of
delineation
at
the
top
of
those
pages.
J
And
as
many
you
may
have
owned
your
own
house
or
even
rent,
I
can't
seem
to
find
anybody
any
contractors
or
electricians
or
anybody
that's
available
for
months
and,
as
you
know,
their
prices
are
charging
the
highest
end
of
painting
or
whatever
it
is.
So
I
don't
anticipate
all
these
projects
coming
in
at
the
cost
right
now.
If
the
economy
is
going
the
same
way,
it
is
so
we
just
need
to
be
prepared
for
that
too.
Yeah
yeah.
E
Can
I
ask
a
couple
of
questions
please,
and
I
guess
primarily
this
is
to
dom
quick
questions,
the
fire
training,
the
fire
tower
training
facility.
I
understand
the
notes
and
the
concept
I
see.
The
justification
is
this
being
a
a
preferred,
a
preferred
path
to
training
off-site
and
the
child.
The
travel
costs
associated
with
that.
K
K
You
know
it's
trying
to
get
access
to
that
shared
resource
so
getting
times
and
stuff
like
that
has
been
challenging
for
the
fire
department
and
when
they
get
new
staff
you
know
getting
them
properly.
Trained
is
often
contingent
on
the
availability
of
whatever
sites
available
in
the
coachella
valley.
So
if
they
had
their
own
you
know
not
only
can
they
do
the
training,
but
there's
a
lot
of
other
options
open
to
them,
so
they
were
successful
in
getting
other
funding
outside
of
city
funding.
K
K
E
Does
does
having
does
palm
springs,
having
this
facility
align
with
other
cities
of
similar
size
and
staffing
levels,
or
would
this
be
an
outlier
and
that
maybe
that's
a
better
question
for
you
justin?
If
you,
if
you
happen
to
know,
would
it
be
appropriate
for
us
or
would
it
seem
like
we've
suddenly
funded
funded
a
project
that
other,
like
cities,
would
not
fund.
E
Sure
so,
as
we
as
we
look
at
this
line
item
for
400
000
for
a
fire
tower
training
facility,
that's
been
the
just.
The
financial
justification
has
been
one
too,
as
an
as
an
on-site
facility
versus
traveling
to
india
and
having
that
as
a
local
resource
versus
an
off-site
resource
and
india
is
not
far
away.
E
But
I'm
I
don't
make
you're,
probably
the
best
person
in
the
group
to
have
a
sense
of
whether
40
000
person
or
I
should
be
more
appropriate
to
the
staffing
level
of
the
fire
department.
But
a
community
of
this
size
is
it
normal
to
have
a
fire
tower
training
facility
and
therefore
have
this
type
of
investment.
L
L
But
as
we
start
to
revise
some
of
our
budget
processes,
I
think
we
want
to
tell
that
story
through
the
budget,
not
just
through
these
kind
of
appropriations
with
measure
j.
But
as
we
compile
our
complete
budget,
we're
actually
explaining.
We
need
a
tower
for
the
following
reasons.
We
expect
our
training
to
increase
from
a
certain
frequency
to
something
much
higher
and-
and
we
really
give
everybody
commission
council
residents
a
sense
of
what
is
the
investment.
What
do
we
get
in
return
and-
and
that
speaks
to
the
issue
right
is
it?
L
E
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
If
I
can
use
my
my
nickel
worth
of
time
here
quickly,
two
quick
questions
for
the
group.
The
round
the
roundabout
we've
had
some
conversations
at
previous
meetings
on
the
question
of
measure
j
endorsing
the
commission
endorsing
this
funding.
Has
there
I've
been
on
the
commission
now
about
two
years?
Has
there
ever
been
support
among
the
commissioners
for
funding
this
roundabout.
E
A
K
And
in
regards
to
the
arnica
sewer,
as
you
know,
a
home
on
septic
system,
a
home,
that's
on
the
sewer
system
is
always
better
than
a
home
on
a
septic
system,
because
you
know
that
this
period
of
periodic
pumping
you
know,
and
then
the
county
in
general
is
moving
away
from
allowing
any
new
septic
tanks
being
installed.
You
can
replace
existing
ones,
but
they
are,
you
know,
moving
towards
providing
sewer
services
whenever
possible.
This
particular
track.
All
of
their
neighbors
have
been
connected
to
the
sewer
they.
G
K
K
G
Hi
there
everybody.
So
this
is
the
first
time
I've
come
before
this
commission
with
any
sort
of
request.
So
please
do
let
me
know
if
you've
got
any
questions
or
feedback.
So
I
had
three
items
on
my
list
of
things
to
talk
to
you
about,
so
one
of
them
has
to
do
with
turf
conversion
and
water
efficiency
projects.
G
I
believe
that
we
could
at
least
do
one
project
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
a
while,
which
is
over
at
victoria
park,
been
really
interested
in
trying
to
get
turf
away
from
the
sidewalks
and
around
the
away
from
the
existing
homes.
There
we've
gotten
some
design
information
on
that
we've
gotten
taken
it
to
the
parks
and
rec
commission
and
they
are
approving
of
it,
and
we
just
need
to
kind
of
reach
out
to
the
residents
and
let
them
know
it's
happening
if
we
can
get
the
funding.
G
G
So
it
would
take
a
good
chunk
of
money
to
do
that
project
and
we're
learning,
certainly
from
the
airport
demonstration
garden
project
that
we're
doing
right
now,
a
lot
about
the
cost
of
plants
and
materials
and
construction,
and
things
like
that.
So,
as
you
guys
mentioned
earlier,
everything's
on
the
rise
so
anyway,
so
I
think
that
we
could
do
a
good
job
with
that,
and
also
probably
either
do
another
project
like
that.
G
When
I
mentioned
that
it's
at
an
intersection
where
there's
a
lot
of
runoff,
so
whether
it's
just
improving
the
irrigation
system,
there
we're
doing
a
little
turf
conversion.
I
think
both
would
be
welcome
there
just
a
matter
of
whether
or
not
we've
got
enough
funding
for
it,
but
also
do
a
design
for
for
coming
years.
So
what
I've
learned
again
from
this
airport
demonstration
carton
project
is
that
the
design
is
really
critical
and
we
need
to
be
kind
of
designing
as
we're
doing
so
that
we're
ready
for
the
next
project.
G
So
so
I
think
at
250
000
for
the
next
year
would
be
a
great
starting
point
for
this
kind
of
an
effort.
But
I
really
would
like
to
see
this
institutionalized
across
the
city
and
have
this
be
a
more
regular
ask
of
either
measure
j
or
the
general
fund
so
that
we
can
get
these
projects
in
the
pipeline
and
start
to
really
improve
our
our
turf
situation
across
the
city.
So
so
that
was
the
first
item
and
happy
to
take
any
questions.
You've
got
about
that.
I
G
So
so
we
can
talk
specifically
about
victoria
park.
I
think
victoria
park
would
be
pretty
quick
since
we've
got
some
design
information.
I
think
we
would
have
to
still
do
the
construction
documents
so
that
may
take
a
little
while,
but
again
since
we
have
the
design,
the
construction
documents
would
probably
be
pretty
easy
quick
to
do
so.
I
And
the
second,
the
second
question
on
that
is,
so
how
will
you
what
kind
of
measurement
is
there
to
show
whether
it's
worth
it
or
not?
I
mean
no
conceptually,
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
How
do
you
come
out
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
or
next
summer
or
a
year
from
yourself
and
say?
Yes,
we
spent
250
000,
and
this
is
what
we
achieved
and
how
do
we
measure.
G
So
the
measurement
comes
partly
from
the
water
reduction
use
reduction
in
water
use,
and
so
we
can
quantify
that,
so
we
either
through
estimates
that
dwa
has
available
to
to
us
or
through
actual
measurements
of
our
usage
for
water.
For
a
particular
location,
we
can
measure
the
the
water
usage
difference.
G
That's
really
the
critical
thing
is
to
can
I
kind
of
have
a
more
minimalist
design
and
the
places
that
we're
talking
about,
as
especially
like
places
that
we
want
to
move
the
turf
back
from
the
edge
of
like
the
sidewalk
and
things
like
that.
We're
talking
about
fairly
simple,
straightforward
designs
with
those.
G
So
so
I
have
no
doubt
that
it
would
be
a
water
savings
that
we
could
quantify
again,
either
through
some
more
general
estimates,
but
or
also
through
individual
meters
and
so
the
other,
the
other
advantage
or
benefit
that's
a
little
less
tangible.
Is
the
impact
and
improvement
on
infrastructure
that
is
surrounding
these
areas.
So
I'm
sure
you've
all
seen.
G
If
you
go
down
the
street
and
you've
seen
a
house
that
has
a
lot
of
overflow
and
a
lot
of
runoff
regularly
how
the
the
basically
the
curb
is
disintegrating
and
how
the
other
sorts
of
sidewalk
is
discolored
and
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that's
what
we
find
in
a
lot
of
these
places
is
that
the
sidewalks
are
are
really
discolored
and
the
the
guttering
is
really
damaged.
G
I
G
F
C
B
G
All
right
so
then.
The
second
item
was
for
bike
and
bike
related
infrastructure.
So,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
note,
we
had
a
grant
that
was
providing
us
or
reimbursing
us
for
the
purchase
of
bike
racks,
and
we
had
a
program
that
we
worked
with
businesses
to
install
bike
racks
for
free
and
that
program.
We
actually
didn't
really
even
advertise
it
much
and
we
still
got
requests
for
bike
racks.
G
We
try
to
keep
the
look
and
feel
consistent
across
town,
whether
it's
through
multi,
multi,
racks
or
loops,
or
the
bike-shaped
racks
in
terms
of
color
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
we've
just
recently
gone
through
and
done
an
inventory
of
locations
that
we'd
like
to
add
some
racks
both
on
city
property,
as
well
as
trying
to
contact
some
businesses
to
get
some
on
on
kind
of
strategically
located
around
town.
And
so
we've
done
that
and
and
we've
come
up
with
an
estimate
of
about
35
000
dollars
for
the
racks
themselves.
G
Probably
about
15
000
for
the
installation
of
of
those
things,
plus
probably
another
ten
to
fifteen
thousand
dollars
depending
on
the
location
if
we
have
to
pour
a
concrete
pad.
So
so
I
rounded
it
to
seventy
five
thousand
dollars,
and
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
continue
to
to
increase
the
bike
infrastructure
for
two
reasons
one
is
it
really
helps
us
promote
the
biking
and
getting
people
out
of
cars,
and
the
second
thing
is
biking
has
really
increased
here
in
the
valley.
G
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
because
of
covid,
but
I
was
talking
to
don
about
this
the
other
day.
You
now
see
just
tons
of
bikes
sitting
in
downtown
and
at
the
racks
and
things
like
that,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
up
with
that
demand
and
making
a
place
for
people
to
put
those
things.
So
so
that
was
the
second
item
on
the
list.
G
How
many
racks
is
this?
So
this
is,
let
me
see
it
is
you're.
Gonna.
Ask
me
a
hard
question,
one
two.
So
it's
about
15
locations.
Let
me
just
if
I
can
share
my
screen
I'll.
Try
to
do
that,
so
it's
about
15
locations
around
town
and
a
lot
of
them
are
at
parks.
The
trail
heads
is
another
one
that
actually
is
down
below
on
this,
and
so
it's
let's
see
one
two.
G
Yeah
and
for
any
anyone's,
for
example,
the
ones
here
that
are
associated
with
businesses,
so
we've
actually
gotten
a
request
from
rick's,
so
we're
working
with
them.
There
is
a
request
from
the
biking
community
to
put
more
down
in
that
downtown
space
sort
of
near
the
rowan,
et
cetera,
so
we've
called
out
a
few
locations,
but
we
really
need
to
work
with
grit
development
on
this
to
determine
the
location
and
the
number
for
for
these
ones.
G
So
this
is
this
is
a
ballpark
for
for
that
downtown
location
and
then
the
other
ones,
for
example,
at
ruth
hardy
park,
would
be
a
multi-rack
victoria
park.
Multi-Rack
visitor
center,
probably
a
multi-rack
and
the
palm
springs
airport
is
asked
for
a
multi-rack,
and
then
you
don't
really
have
much
here
at
city
hall,
so
probably
do
a
multi-rack.
There,
too.
G
A
Yeah,
I
would
also
be
interested
in
kind
of
the
state
or
a
map
of
existing
biking
infrastructure
and
how
this
overlays
to
investments
that
we've
already
done,
because
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
have
yeah
downtown-
is
crazy
right
now.
But
I
would
be
a
little
uncomfortable
putting
all
that
investment
downtown
for
visitors
if
without
knowing
how
they
are
in
our
parks
and
our
library
and
just
kind
of
the
state,
I'm
assuming
they're
already
there.
But
maybe
it's
like.
A
G
Sure
and
that
that's
why
actually
most
of
the
locations
are
not
downtown,
so
most
of
them
are
the
parks
and
the
trailheads
and
the
city
hall
and
and
some
other
locations,
so
really,
if
only
a
few
of
them
were
downtown.
Partly
because,
like
we
were
saying,
we've
got
several
down
there
already,
and
so
I
think
it
was
really
just
around
the
new
park
and
the
really
the
the
core
of
the
new
downtown
so
but
or.
A
I
I
So
I
would
do
that
careful,
look
because
the
fact
that
grit
has
asked
for
three
great-
and
they
may
very
well
need
it,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
that
all
the
money
is
not
going
to
them
when
two
blocks
north,
you
know
or
a
motto
they
may.
They
may
really
need
bike
racks
for
those
businesses,
because
it's
it
really
has
an
effect
on
there.
So
right
right.
I
Way
to
ask
people,
I
mean
it's
not
a
huge
amount
of
money,
whether
there's
a
way
to
ask
other
businesses
to
make
them
when
they
did
the
bike
rack
campaign
last
time
they
sort
of
made
it
known
and
then
a
lot
of
them
went
out
and
then
it
got
very
hard
to
get
one
right
right.
Make
sure
that
before
you
go
out,
you
make
you
get
all
the
requests
in.
So
you
can
allocate.
E
Patrick
in
the
group,
I
was
simply
going
to
add
that
I
think
each
of
these
first
two
items,
the
turf
conversion
and
the
bike
infrastructure.
Are
there
to
me,
they're
no-brainers,
there's.
There
are
details,
of
course,
and
good
questions
around
the
economics
and
the
prioritization,
but
I
think
with
that
without
question.
E
G
Just
one
quick
one
so,
as
you
guys
may
have
been
to
the
community
garden
at
dumuth
park,
it's
right
behind
the
community
center.
We
have
had
been
plagued
there
by
problems
with
people
trying
to
cut
through
our
fence
and
climb
over
the
fence,
and
so
this
is
just
a
request
to
provide
some
funding
so
that
we
can
get
a
higher
fence
and
a
better
fence
installed
around
there
and
and
actually
there
are
some
other
fencing
that
parks
and
rec
is
doing
nearby.
G
G
E
I
G
I
B
J
J
G
I
So
perhaps
what
we
could
do
is
we
could.
We
could
amend
that
to
the
measure.
J
commission
proves
that
understanding
that
city
council
needs
to
finalize
the
top
two,
and
actually
you
can
submit
the
the
detail,
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
come
back,
but
it
can
go
straight
to
city
council,
but
that
makes
sense.
C
K
K
C
C
A
Thought
that
I
I
agree
jeffrey,
I
think,
nancy.
What
you're
describing
was
like
for
that
was
kind
of
like
a
new
outrage
procedure
that
we
were
recommending
start
in
the
fall
and
everyone
like
with
clear
kind
of
timeline
and
and
invites
for
people
to
present
to
the
commission
and
stuff.
But
I
think,
because
we
have
this
remaining
extra
money,
we
kind
of
have
to
allocate
it
sooner.
J
I
I
I'm
saying
we
didn't,
we
didn't
meet
a
lot
and
we
didn't
know
that
we
would
have
this
money
to
spend
in
the
2021
year,
so
we
still
have
that
million
dollars
next
year
and
we're
carrying
over
even
additional
funds.
I
think
you
know
if
we
could
move
forward
the
same
with
this.
It
would
be
ideal.
I
mean
we
did
move
forward
with
the
downtown
park
last
summer.
So
I
think
some
of
these
things.
I
J
I
I
have
to
I
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
previous,
because
I
was
only
here
for
one
of
the
meetings,
but
I
still
think
you
have
to
bring
a
list
back
regardless,
and
I
will
I
will
trace
back
to
my
beginning
of
next
week
and
go
back
and
watch
the
meetings.
But
I
thought
I
thought
we
brought
for
each
year.
We
have
to
bring
up
the
whole
list
back
and
I
thought
we
decided
at
the
last
meeting
the
meeting
before
that.
K
K
When
we
do
the
stuff,
when
we
do
the
staff
report
for
item
one
and
item
two,
I
would
put
a
blurb
in
the
fiscal
impact
section
that
says
the
measure
j
on
may
20th
2021
recommended
that
250
thousand
dollars
comes
from
the
community
projects
fund.
Our
line
item
in
measure,
j
and
then
city
council
would
approve
it
with
the
approval
of
the
project,
or
you
know
I
could
just
say
measure
j
is
recommending
approval.
K
E
I
think
that's
a
great
idea,
I
mean
personally,
I
wouldn't
want
us,
I'm
not
sure
what
why
we
would
need
right
this
moment
to
confine
our
discussions
to
community
projects
given
as
jeffrey
described,
given
the
extent
of
the
good
news
funding
that
we've
had
and
haven't
applied.
Yet
we
haven't
recommended
anything
of
substance.
Yet.
I
I
I
would
say
I
understand
they
may
have
to
have
other
things.
I
I
think
we
still
continue
with
emotion
to
approve
this
and
understanding
that
we
are
still
carrying
over
another
6.7
million
dollars
into
next
year,
including
and
then,
and
then
we'll
have
another
million
dollars
of
community
projects,
and
we
already
talked
about
having
both
the
library
and
the
parks
and
rec
coming
back
to
us
in
in
the
fall,
and
I
think
somehow
sustainability
is
sort
of
separate
from.
Even
though
these
are
that's
a
parks
project.
It's
still
separate.
B
C
C
I
They
are
filming,
we
met
with
amy
blaisdell
and
their
social
media
contractor,
and
what
we
had
decided
was
to
start.
I
don't
know
if
I
should.
I'm
just
reporting,
yes,
brian
and
naomi
can
go
back
and
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
start
with
more
general
information
about
what
measure
j
is
and
what
it
does,
particularly
because
there's
there's
new
residents
who
don't
know
or
or
people
may
have
forgotten
or
or
may
never
have
known.
A
A
Definitely
don't
want
to
assume
that
it's
just
us
three
who
are
going
to
be
making
recommendations
about
what
we
feel
like
the
community
needs
to
particularly
hear
about,
and
our
like,
like
jeffrey
mentioned,
we
we're
really
hoping
it
to
be
both
kind
of
ongoing
outreach
about
what
we're
doing,
but
like
special
extra
details
and
context
and
promotion
for
things.
We're
particularly
excited
about
or
proud
about,
or
think
is
worth
noting
so
kind
of
see
it
as
like
a
dual
effort
and
by
all
means
we
totally
welcome
that
feedback
from
everyone
else.
I
Excellent,
for
instance
like
following
this
meeting,
we've
been
sending
emails
to
amy,
letting
her
know
the
projects
she
still
has
to
go
through
city
manager
to
determine
what
they
could
actually
what
they
are
ready
to
publicize.
But
we
could
mention
that
that
we've
approved
the
chart
conversion
and
the
bike
infrastructure
in
a
community
garden.
The
first
two
have
to
go
to
city
council,
the
other
one's
approved,
and
she
would
take
that
into
account
into
the
social
media
as
to
how
they
promote
it.
J
B
B
J
B
B
H
B
M
M
K
C
M
Have
those
documents
ready
for
the
full
commission
to
take
a
look
at
and
then
we
have
something
that
people
can
get,
and
I
would
also
say
if
you
haven't
looked
at
the
major
j
piece
on
the
website.
I
did
mention
the
chantel
and
nancy
that
that
really
needs
to
be
updated.
It's
2012
and
the
numbers
are
different,
and
so
that
would
be
something.
Publicity
should
take
a
look
at
if
you
haven't
looked
at
it.
J
M
Yeah
I
was
looking
at
it
when
I
was
going
through
reviewing
our
little
group's
notes
from
gosh
when
march
and
whenever
I
think,
but
I
would
be
very
happy
to
meet
with
you
five
people
or
four
and
let's
pull
that
application
together,
because
that's
where
we
were
what
you
want
on
the
application
and
then
the
guidelines.
Those
things
are
very
important
to
clear
up
and
make
clear
and
dawn
gave
us
wonderful
material
from
before.
But
it
needs
to
be
cleaned
up.
We
need
a
new
document,
so
whoever
is
in
charge
just
you
know.
B
M
M
Well,
there's
there's
only
you
and
don
and
myself,
and
I
only
left-
am
I
correct
every
I
I
think
so
and
and
I
don't
know
what
part
you
want
chantelle
to
be
involved
in
this,
because
ariana
didn't
sit
with
us
now
and
we
could
be
in
a
room
where
we
could
really
be
spaced
out
so
yeah.
Okay,
let
me
work
on
that.
J
So
last
year
we
discussed
having
an
online
survey
and
with
that
in
that
survey
we
were
going
to
pick
categories
parks,
library,
yeah
streets
and
that
thing
and
then
add
a
couple
for
each
one
of
those,
so
that
people
can
do
this
online
rather
than
having
to
mail
out
a
bunch
of
forms.
Yeah.
This
way
we
could
put
it
in
a
dropbox
and
we
all
can
review
them.
J
M
J
Obviously
we
could
work
on
the
survey
and
then
I
could
have
somebody
assist
me
putting
it
on
the
measure
j
page
and
we
can
do
some
type
of
outreach
on
social
media,
maybe
instagram
or
something
okay,
our
survey
and
just
keep
doing
that
every
week
until
we
we
get.
You
know
surveys,
okay,
yeah,
yeah,.
A
A
The
idea
was
that
those
themes
would
match
like
presentations
in
the
fall
right.
So
if
we
have
prod
like
parks
projects,
anybody
not
just
parks
commissions,
but
residents
who
have
park
suggestions
could
come
to
the
november
measure
j
meeting
and
speak
about
it
right.
So
we're
there's
a
follow-up
action
where
we're
actually
inviting
people
to
talk
about
it.
A
M
Yeah,
I
think,
rather
than
talk
about
this
now
we,
our
small
subcommittee,
should
meet
and
figure
out
where
we
are
and
get
our
materials
done
and
then
make
sure
you
the
whole
commission
has
it.
You
think
it's
good
to
go
and
then
we
go
because
there's
too
many
loose
sins
right
now.
I
think
about
decisions
left
over
from
them.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
think
I
want
to
engage
in
more
full
commission
in
your
time
right
now,
we're
not
there.
I
don't
believe
so.
Okay.
I
M
I
M
C
I
K
E
K
I
A
A
I
B
B
H
C
F
I'm
right
here,
hi,
sis,
so
being
somebody
who
actually
participates
also
on
parks
and
rec
commission
for
those
measure,
j
commissioners
who
don't
know
me,
my
name
is
stacey
schaefer,
I'm
the
director
of
maintenance
facilities
for
the
city
of
palm
springs.
I
also
participate
in
the
parks
and
rec
commission.
I
actually
am
intimately
involved
in
their
goals
and
their
projects,
and
I
will
I'm
a
participant
in
monday's
meeting.
I
will
make
the
request,
on
behalf
of
this
commission
during
monday's
meeting,
to
have
any
projects
that
you
would
like.
K
K
M
Okay,
I
I
will
call
nancy
tomorrow
and
get
some
direction
because
once
again,
part
of
what
we
talked
about
is
blanketing
all
of
the
commissions
and
many
of
the
groups
in
town
myself,
boys
and
girls
club
blah
blah
blah.
So
I
think
we
all
need
our
little
group
needs
to
clarify
what
we're
doing,
because
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time
right.