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A
B
C
A
The
this
is
the
time
for
public
comment
if
you
have
any,
if
you
wish
to
speak
to
the
Commission
on
any
item
before
the
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Commission.
Now
is
the
time
to
do
so.
We
may.
We
may
also
take
public
comment
after
the
discussion
of
the
single
item
on
the
agenda.
So,
but
if
you
have
something
you
wish
to
say
to
the
Planning
Commission
now,
that
would
be
the
time
to
do
it.
It
is.
There
is
a
limit
of
three
minutes.
There's
I
say
one
person
shaking
their
head
and
I
think.
D
B
Chair
and
members
of
the
Commission,
let
me
just
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
project
and
then
what
we
are
doing
here
today
in
terms
of
the
park
plan.
As
you're
aware,
you
all
reviewed
the
sarena
Park
development
back
in
spring
of
2016
and
recommended
approval
of
the
preliminary
plan
development,
the
development
agreement
to
the
City
Council.
The
preliminary
plan
development
and
associated
applications
went
forward
to
the
City
Council.
The
City
Council
approved
the
preliminary
in
September
of
2016.
B
However,
they
did
not
approve
the
development
agreement
at
that
point
in
time,
because
we
were
not
quite
ready
in
terms
of
some
of
the
terms
of
the
development
agreement
to
move
forward
with
that,
as
you'll
recall,
the
development
requires
access
from
Golden
Sands,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
Four
Seasons
development
at
the
Northwest
area,
Northwest
area
of
the
site
that
was
recently
approved
by
the
Four
Seasons
homeowners
association
back
in
March
March
of
this
year.
That
was
one
of
the
critical
components
that
needed
to
be
approved
before
we
could
move
forward
with
the
development
agreement.
B
So
that's
where
we
are
today
in
terms
of
the
approval
process.
We
still
need
to
have
the
development
agreement
approved
by
City
Council
and
then,
if
the
project
moves
forward,
we
would
still
need
to
go
through
the
final
plan
development
approval
process
for
the
specific
aspects
of
the
development
in
terms
of
the
park
itself.
As
you'll
recall
from
the
initial
plan
that
was
reviewed
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
approved
by
the
City
Council,
there
is
an
area
at
the
southeast
corner
of
the
site
that
was
set
aside
for
a
public
park.
B
There
are
two
conditions
relative
to
that
in
the
final
conditions
of
approval
and
I've
listed
those
there
in
the
memo
that
I
have
before
you.
It
says
that
the
park
shall
be
provided
in
accordance
with
the
approved
site
plan,
properly
maintained
by
the
HOA
and
accessible
to
the
general
public
in
terms
of
the
public
benefit.
It
was
also
identified
that
the
park
was
a
public
benefit
and
it
needed
to
be
accessible
to
the
public
in
terms
of
the
development
agreement.
B
One
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
do
is
we
need
to
identify
the
amenities
that
are
provided
in
the
park
and
then
also
a
time
frame
for
development
of
the
park,
and
so
that's
really.
The
reason
why
we
are
here
today,
looking
at
the
part
plan,
is
to
specify
the
amenities
for
the
park,
keep
in
mind
that
these
amenities
will
be
specified
in
the
development
agreement,
and
it's
against
that
that
we
will
review
the
final
plans
for
the
park.
B
The
final
plans
in
terms
of
the
final
landscaping
plan
for
the
park,
the
details
on
fencing,
etc,
would
be
reviewed
as
part
of
the
final
plan
development
process.
So
again,
this
is
to
establish
the
amenities
that
are
required
in
the
park.
The
final
design
details
are
something
that
would
come
back
to
you
as
part
of
the
final
plan
development
process.
As
you
can
see
from
the
site
plan.
There's
a
number
of
amenities
that
are
proposed.
The
park
is
actually
split
into
two
sides.
B
The
west
side
will
have
two
tennis
courts
on
the
east
side,
you'll
see
a
putting
green
passive
recreation
park
and
then
also
a
dog
park
as
well
as
restrooms
I'd
like
to
have
the
applicant
actually
go
through
the
specifics
of
the
site
plan
and
walk
us
through
the
details
of
the
park
design
and
what
they're,
anticipating,
but
I,
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
brief
overview
of
what
was
anticipated
for
the
park
with
that.
I
will
conclude
my
comments.
B
E
E
E
My
second
question
is
with
respect
to
the
CV
link
route,
and
this
is
really
with
respect
the
entire
project.
To
what
extent
is
that
route
going
to
be
made
safe
and
secure
for
the
residents
who
are
surrounding
it,
because
it's
obviously
a
public
thoroughfare
in
a
way,
it's
a
right
of
way,
I
assume
that
C
will
have
receive
you
link
or
the
authority
running
CV
link
will
have
a
right
away
or
an
easement
with
respect
to
this
property.
B
This
particular
instance,
what
will
be
important,
is
looking
at
the
design
of
the
project.
There
are
principles
called
crime
prevention
through
Environmental
Design,
which
looks
at
how
you
design
things
and
how
you
can
make
them
safer
through
design
things
that
you
look
for
is
natural
surveillance,
so
that
people
in
their
residences
can
look
at
the
trail
and
observe.
B
What's
going
on
the
trail
or
people
who
are
in
the
area,
for
example,
in
the
park
when
you're
in
the
park,
you
can
see
the
trail
you
can
see
what's
going
on
in
the
trail
things
such
as
lighting,
how
we
deal
with
landscaping,
how
we
deal
with
fencing.
Those
are
all
critical
components
in
terms
of
the
design
of
the
trail
itself
to
make
it
safer.
B
E
B
Will
be
responsible
for
the
trail
route
that
is
shown
in
the
plans,
the
approved
plans
not
for
the
regular
CV
link
route.
Keep
in
mind
that
the
route
that
goes
through
the
development
is
identified
as
an
alternate
route.
It
will
serve
as
a
trail
that
residents
of
the
development
may
enjoy
potentially
down
the
road.
It
may
become
an
Trinette
route
for
CB
link.
B
E
D
B
I,
don't
have
a
timeframe
for
when
CV
link
is
going
to
be
constructed,
yet
this
would
be
installed
as
part
of
the
development.
What
I'm
calling
the
alternate
CV
link
route
and
that
would
be
available
to
residents
as
a
development,
and
because
this
is
a
non
gated
development.
It
would
also
be
available
to
numbers
of
the
public.
Okay,
so.
D
B
C
B
B
C
A
B
Was
a
discussion
that
we
had
had
with
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
and,
as
you
might
recall,
we
also
have
this
discussion
to
have
Planning
Commission
as
well.
The
general
plan
does
identify
the
north
end
of
the
city
as
being
in
need
of
a
park.
We
already
have
the
just
under
six
acre
park.
That's
been
dedicated
by
the
Maryland
Development
to
address
that
need
part
of
the
discussion
with
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
is
what
this
area
serve
as
a
sufficient
area
for
a
park.
B
B
A
B
A
B
There
was
a
subdivision
that
has
been
approved
there
on
that
parcel
to
the
east,
and
so
it
would
be
across
the
lovey
or
I
believe
there
is
some
type
of
a
device
or
between
those
two.
Maybe
is
it
flat,
Eric,
okay,
okay,
so
it
would
directly
abut
okay,
it's
a
good
thing.
We
have
the
applicant
here.
He
knows
his
site.
B
F
H
Secondly,
as
a
designer
looking
at
this
and
I'm
looking
at
how
you
come
into
a
community-
and
you
get
a
sense
of
place-
and
we
have
this
trail
feature
we'll
call
it
the
alternative,
C
to
B
CV
link
or
whatever,
coming
both
from
the
neighborhood
from
the
Whitewater
Club
neighborhood
and
from
the
city
at
large
coming
in
and
the
CV
link
itself
coming
in
from
the
levee.
How
does
that
work?
So
I
wanted
a
sense
of
entrance,
so
I'm
using
large
plant
material.
H
You
can
see
the
double
row
of
trees
coming
along
the
trail
coming
from
the
whitewater
community.
On
the
east
side
of
the
entrance
road
coming
in
and
using
three
primary
types
of
trees
to
come
in
the
large
Washingtonians,
the
Canary
Island
Palms
to
do
two
things:
to
break
it
up
and
to
give
some
shade
and
give
and
give
some
punch
to
that
intersection.
So
it
has
some
good
visual
interest
and,
and
then
the
Virginia
Oaks,
to
give
shade
and
to
break
it
up.
But
Flynn
and
I
originally
talked
about
that
Flynn
did
see.
H
I
did
do
a
presentation
to
staff,
so
I'll
blame
Flynn
a
little
bit
for
this,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
good
idea
to
put
in
the
oak
trees
is
to
some
more
shade
to
that
trail
area
and
if
you're
not
familiar
with
that
tree,
the
plaza
areas
at
the
Indian
Wells
Tennis
Center
that
have
the
DG
and
you
have
go
the
shade
trees.
Those
are
Virginia
Oaks!
That's
what
it
is.
It's
a
very
well
adapted
tree
for
this
climate
and
provide
shade
and
can
handle
the
wind.
H
H
The
city
lost
some
tennis
courts.
Recently,
I
had
some
discussions.
I
happen
to
know
the
operator
I've
talked
to
some
of
the
council
members
about
it,
we're
in
the
wind
zone.
It's
probably
not
the
right
place
for
a
full
blown
tennis
center,
but
there
used
to
be
tennis
courts
here
back
when
it
was
about
when
it
was
a
club
and
I
think
there
was
an
opportunity
here
as
that
as
an
active
use.
It
also
fit
well
in
that
space
that
smaller
space.
H
So
the
idea
there
was
to
put
a
couple
of
courts
and
to
have
a
shade
area,
so
an
area
that
you
could
relax
and
get
out
of
the
Sun,
maybe
you're
waiting
for
your
turn
to
play,
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
put
in
some
parking
there.
So
I
think
is
kind
of
a
self
enclosed
mini
area.
To
me
that
seemed
to
work,
and
there
certainly
seems
to
be
a
need
within
the
local
residents
and
some
of
the
comments
that
I
received
from
them
for
a
place
to
play.
H
Tennis,
the
golf
I
that
came
from
very
specific
comments
from
the
neighbors,
primarily
in
the
in
the
condo
area,
directly
asking
me.
Would
you
please
do
something
like
this
and
they
actually
took
me
in
their
cars
and
drove
me
around
to
some
of
the
practice
petting
areas
in
the
Coachella
Valley
to
say
we
would
like
this,
and
so
that's
what
that
reflects
is
direct
recommendation
and
a
request
from
the
neighbors
they
wanted
to.
H
You
know
at
least
remember
a
little
bit
when
this
was
a
golf
course
is
a
place
that
they
could
go
and
with
an
HOA
maintenance
and
the
area
away
from
home,
so
you're
putting
into
a
center
area,
it
seemed
safe
and
we
would
use
an
artificial
turf
green
that
is
size.
Wise
is
a
full
regulation.
Size
Green
may
be
a
little
bit
larger.
It's
about
eleven
twelve
thousand
square
feet
to
give
you
an
idea,
so
it
is
a
full
size
and
we
could
put
in
several
cups
in
that
and
hit
from
various
places.
H
H
Perhaps
the
little
ones
could
go
out
there,
but
it's,
but
it's
too
small
but
big
enough,
that
you
could
throw
a
football
or
a
frisbee,
and
it
has
some
some
green
space
and
some
shade
an
area
for
parking
and
because
the
trail,
a
CV
link
itself,
if
it
gets
done,
would
be
right
by
there.
We
had
some
comments.
I
think
it
was
one
of
you
and
and
some
of
the
neighbors
and
I
think
staff
also
of
putting
in
a
restroom
building.
H
Lastly,
the
dog
park
again
this
was
comments
from
at
least
one
of
the
council
members
from
a
few
people
in
the
community
and
just
go
out
there
and
walk
around
and
watch
all
the
people
walking
their
dogs
I
mean
that's
happening
right
now
in
the
neighborhood.
It
just
is
a
part
of
life
in
this
part
of
Palm
Springs,
as
well
as
a
lot
of
other
parts,
and
so
I
went
looked
at
the
dog
park
at
a
Sina.
Just
to
start
talking
about.
H
B
H
So
if
you're
familiar
with
the
dog
park
at
escena,
the
dog
part
of
the
Sina
is
about
three
hundred
and
fifty
feet
long
and
it's
mostly
about
60
feet
wide.
There's
one
area
where
it
pops
out
it's
around
80
feet
wide,
but
most
of
it
is
so
it
works
out
about
25,000
square
feet,
fenced
in
it's,
mostly
grass.
H
So
the
idea
of
this
area
is
that
it's
the
same
basic
design
as,
what's
as
I've,
seen
it
with
the
ring
around
it
grass
in
the
middle,
except
we
added
a
shade
structure
here,
so
you
could
weight
or
get
out
of
the
shade.
We
think
that
that's
something
that
would
need
to
go
in
fairly
fast,
but
what
makes
this
different
than
what's
at
a
Cena
is
a
Cena
is
just
that
dog
park
that
60
by
350
feet
area.
That
Park
here
is
this
little
piece
right
there
between
that
cul-de-sac,
and
the
trail
is
this
piece.
H
This
is
the
top
of
the
levee
that
darker
grey
stripe
right
there
from
the
levee
to
those
homes
to
their
side.
Yard
is
about
120
feet
and
from
there
to
there
is
1400
feet.
So
this
is
about
four
acres
of
a
strip
going
down,
and
my
thought
on
this
was
here's
the
simple
area
where
you
could
stop
and
park
and
use
the
restroom
and
drop
your
dog
off
and
let
your
dog
run
around
in
a
fenced
area,
but
there's
no
reason
because
these
will
be
fenced
along
the
side.
H
I
H
A
E
J
H
F
J
E
H
E
A
lot
of
turf
being
taken
up
or
ground
taking
up
for
that
purpose,
so
I
would
think
that
a
better
mix
abuse
might
be
appropriate.
The
other
question
I
had
is:
have
you
given
any
thought?
I
know
these
are
not
well-traveled
streets,
but
if
you've
got
a
break
between
the
tennis
area
and
the
main
park,
and
then
you've
got
another
road
framing
the
the
west
side
of
that
parking,
any
thought
to
crosswalks
or
any
sorts
of
safety
measures
there,
because
there
will
be
cars
going
back
and
forth
and
people
will
be
crossing.
We.
D
Well,
Thank
You
Commissioner
donenfeld
for
stealing
my
thunder,
but
just
to
pick
up
on
the
point
about
the
kids.
This
project
was
originally
presented
to
the
Planning
Commission
in
part
as
providing
somewhat
affordable,
housing
for
families
and
I
think
the
conspicuous
absence
of
amenities
or
recreational
option
opportunities
for
our
younger
citizens
is
a
mistake
and,
and
I
would
want
to
see
something
specifically
geared
to
that
demographic,
particularly
given
that
this
was
I,
don't
want
they
sold
to
us.
D
This
was
presented
to
us
as
an
alternate
for
housing
for
people
that
didn't
families
that
didn't
want
to
be
in
a
more
higher
density
area,
yeah.
Okay,
so
that
that
was
my
main
gonna,
be
my
main
comment.
Flynn
I
know
we
have
a
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission.
Do
we
have
to
they're
a
staff,
a
head
of
parks,
there's.
D
I
would
recommend
that,
given
that
you
have
two
commissioners
now
commenting
on
the
lack
of
facilities
for
our
younger
folks,
maybe
coordinating
with
that
staff
member
rather
than
the
Parks
and
Recreation
Commission
that
didn't
want
to
have
any
part
of
this,
but
now
that
it's
a
given,
we
are
gonna
have
this
park.
Let
the
staff
help
you
out
in
determining
what
is
missing
in
that
part
of
the
community
who
could
provide
as
far
as
amenities
go.
D
F
D
H
A
J
H
J
Glad
to
hear
that,
because
I
have
a
lot
of
issues
with
adjacent
neighbors
in
the
past,
I'd
like
to
pick
up,
maybe
on
a
few
of
the
comments
that
have
already
been
made.
I
guess.
Another
question
is
the
width
of
the
let's
just
call
it
the
CV
link
a
placeholder
is
that
the
width
that's
been
SPECT
for
the
rest
of
the
CV
link?
Do
you
know
I
do.
H
Know-
and
it
is
not-
we
specifically
had
this
discussion
with
the
city
council
I
believe
it's
in
the
conditions
when
and
the
the
trails
as
the
the
link
outside
of
the
outside
of
the
link
coming
into
the
project
along
the
levy,
because
this
is
the
the
real
you
know
in
the
plan.
Cv
link,
this
one
is
supposed
to
be
I,
think
25
feet
wide
and
accommodates
the
electric
vehicles,
and
we
asked
and
I
think
that
and
the
council
agreed
and
I.
I
B
C
J
C
They're
doing
a
two-foot
reduction
to
not
put
the
CV
link
into
some
of
the
wash
area
and
they
are
allowing
electric
vehicles
so
for
the
14
feet,
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
city
our
city
engineers
would
allow
here,
but
in
other
areas
along
the
levy,
it's
going
as
narrow
as
14
feet
and
sorry
to
interrupt.
Okay,.
J
That's
a
good
input
like
I
might
make
a
recommendation,
though
in
the
western
portion
of
the
let's
just
call
it
the
CV
link
as
it
passes
through
the
site.
You've
got
a
row
of
trees
on
either
side.
I
would
recommend
actually
spacing
the
trees
to
allow
potentially
a
wider
pathway.
So
in
the
future,
if
changes
are
needed
to
be
made
or
whatever
I
would
just
hate
to
see,
you
know
a
row
of
trees,
be
planted
and
grow
up
and
then
hinder
possibly
some
flexibility
for
that
CD
link.
So
that's
just
a
recommendation.
J
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
recommend,
obviously,
is
a
enhanced
crossing
for
that
CD
link
trail
across
the
street
and
perhaps
a
little
bit
of
alteration
for
the
tree
placement.
There
I
just
think
that
visibility,
obviously
for
that
crossing
of
the
street,
is
going
to
be
so
important
in
terms
of
visibility
and
the
trees
are
beautiful,
I'd
love
to
see
more
shade
there,
but
maybe
a
little
bit
more
openness
at
that
crossing
might
be
safer
and
more
effective.
The
rest
of
these
are
gonna
be
comments.
J
Basically-
and
this
is
a
study
session
so
I,
like
the
the
informality
of
the
format,
I
tend
to
agree
that
I
think
that
golf
there
may
be
certainly
golfers
in
the
valley,
but
I
think
it
is
from
my
reading
at
least
demographically
a
sport
or
an
activity.
That's
sort
of
being
sort
of
on
the
way
out
and
I
share
the
concern
that
too
much
of
this
is
being
earmarked
for
golfing
practice.
J
If
you
will
so
I'd
like
to
maybe
see
that
either
reduced
in
size
or
perhaps
go
away
completely
I
like
the
area
of
the
turf,
especially
with
some
some
shaded
areas
of
that
turf
area,
because
I
think
even
you
know,
we've
discussed
a
children's
play
area.
I
think
you
know
the
adjacencies
would
be
great
to
have
some
play
equipment
adjacent
to
that
turf
area.
But
having
said
that,
I
think
having
that
turf
area
adjacent
to
one
of
the
roadways
is
probably
not
the
best
placement.
I
can
see
a
kid.
J
You
know
playing
ball
or
playing
frisbee
and
running
out
into
the
street,
so
I
think,
based
on
the
size
of
the
site.
I
think
there
might
be
a
better
location
on
for
the
turf
area.
I
was
sitting
here
before
the
meetings
sort
of
jotting
down
some
potential
other
uses,
especially
the
you
know,
the
sort
of
southern
portion,
the
dogleg
of
the
eastern
portion
of
the
site,
I
think,
could
be
utilized
in
perhaps
a
an
interesting
way.
I
think
a
lot
of
us
remember.
J
Perhaps
the
red
demonstration
garden
might
be
quite
nice.
Just
looking
at
my
notes
here,
yeah
I,
just
I,
think
my
basic
comment
is
I.
I
would
like
to
maybe
flip
the
importance
and
not
have
golf
be
the
predominant
use
of
this
site
and
personally
I
would
like
to
see
maybe
not
more
of
turf
area,
but
certainly
relocation,
the
turf
area
and
the
inclusion
of
some
sort
of
active
play
structures
which
I
think
can
be
sort
of
artistically
done.
F
I
Soon
be
fairly
quick,
although
I.
Second,
the
comments
regarding
golf
I
think
that
it's
just
taking
up
too
much
space
on
this
looking
at
the
tennis
courts,
I
think
they're
very
attractive.
What
I
am
finding
here
locally
is
vast.
Numbers
of
people
are
giving
up
tennis
for
pickleball
and
have
you
looked
at
the
possibility
of
putting
in
pickleball
courts
because
they
they.
B
I
Would
encourage,
and
and
I
can
actually
put
you
in
touch
with
people
who've
made
their
living.
It
seems
a
fitting
for
that.
What
I
would
tell
you
is
our
experience
at
DeMuth.
Park
is
that
they
have
had
to
remove
tennis
courts
and
rican,
or
essentially
reconvert
them
to
use
his
pickle
ball
courts
and
I.
Believe
it's
two
out
of
approximately
eight
nine
that
were
converted.
I
F
G
I
totally
support
that
the
pickleball
issue
I
own
a
condo
and
a
complex
in
Palm
Springs,
and
that
converted
the
tennis
courts
to
pickleball
on
the
tennis
courts
we're
just
never
used
now.
The
pickleball
courts
are
used
on
a
regular
basis
and
I
also
support
that
I
think
it's
an
attractive
feature
for
you
in
terms
of
selling
the
houses
too.
If
there
is
a
children's
play
area
and
widened
your
market
significantly
in
terms
of
people
that
might
be
interested
in
the
houses,
so
I
support.
G
C
D
C
F
B
B
The
dog
park
is
small,
and
the
map
makes
it
look
as
though
moving
it
to
the
turf
area
would
make
for
a
bigger,
more
useful
dog
park,
but
the
developers
concern
there
is
that
no
one
wants
to
live
right
by
or
be
able
to
hear
too
loudly
the
dart
park.
We
understand
that
we
wish
it
was
was
bigger,
but
it
would
probably
negatively
impact
the
price
of
nearby
condos
if
it
were
any
closer
to
them.
Well,
I
doubt
many
of
the
residents
in
Alexander
estates
will
make
much
use
of
the
putting
green.
B
We
do
recognize
that
for
the
other
phases
of
the
Palm
Springs
Country
Club,
it's
a
nice
gift
for
them
to
have
anything
Golf
able,
since
they
bought
their
condos,
believing
that
they
would
have
a
full
Golf
Course.
Overall,
there
were
a
few
folk
who
indicated
they
weren't
happy
and
we're
planning
to
be
a
meeting
on
Wednesday.
The
overwhelming
number
of
people
with
whom
I
spoke
over
had
minimal
concerns
about
the
park
and
we're
just
glad
that
it
would
be
included
in
the
plants
best
Nora
Williams.
C
Thank
you.
One
thought
is
to
extend
the
path
around
so
that
you
can
loop
it,
whether
it's
gravel
or
some
some
way
of
walking
it.
People
tend
to
prefer
to
walk
in
a
circle
as
opposed
to
walk
just
in
a
line
and
the
dog
park,
and
it's
because
I'm
in
the
dog
park
every
day,
with
a
new
puppy
at
escena
and
I'm,
also
on
the
HOA
board.
I
get
all
the
complaints
about
the
dog
park.
C
One
of
the
things
we've
found
is
that
you
probably
didn't
need
the
additional
width,
but
you
you
might
need
you
might
look
at
putting
a
small
park
here
for
small
dogs
some
way
to
separate
the
dogs,
because
you're
going
to
have
a
lot.
We
only
have
300
homes
right
now
and
we
already
have
a
clash
between
big
and
small
dogs
and
it's
not
a
clash
between
the
people,
but
the
dogs
clash.
C
So
some
separation
off
you
want
enough
room
to
throw
a
ball
and
the
big
dogs
run
further,
but
the
small
rooms
run
pretty
far,
but
some
separating.
So
if
possibly
some
of
this
area
could
be
used,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful.
We
found
you
need
a
water,
fountain
water
source,
a
double
gate
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
looking
at
that,
so
that
the
dogs
don't
get
overexcited
on
the
way
in
and
out,
and
you
don't
have
incidents
with
dogs
biting
other
dogs.
Those
have
all
been
important
things.
C
Lots
of
benches
and
little
containers
for
dog
refuse
shade,
but
those
are
those
are
the
things
that
we
found.
The
runs
a
great
idea,
but
they're
coyotes
in
the
in
the
wash
so
that
I'm
not
sure
people
are
going
to
let
their
dogs
off.
Some
people
may
be
brave
enough
to
what
their
dogs
off
leash,
but
it's
you
people
be
cautious
that
they
won't
lose
their
pup.
C
C
Is
there
any
land
we
can
develop
for
anything
else,
because
people
as
they
get
to
be
friendly,
want
to
go
out
and
play
some
kind
of
a
game
and
not
go
too
far
away,
and
so
we've
gotten
requests
for
all
of
those
and
not
always
the
fanciest
kind,
a
bocce
court.
If
you
could
just
make
it
usable
people,
would
would
do
it,
you
don't
have
to
make
it
state-of-the-art.
C
So
those
are
the
comments
I
like
the
idea
of
the
children's
play
area.
If
not
here,
you've
got
another
green
area,
that's
closer
to
the
trailer
park,
and
that
may
be
a
place
where
there
are
children
but
I.
Think,
because,
because
this
is
going
to
be
the
thing
that's
going
to
get
used,
the
most
is
the
dog
park,
because
there
isn't
one
and
people
are
going
to
come,
who
live
in
that
entire
area
and
use
it.
F
A
A
Perhaps
I
have
some
sympathy
for
the
golf
course
and
people
that
was
taken
away
here,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we
need
I,
guess
we've
got
practice
tees
from
four
different
cardinal
points
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
need
all
four,
particularly
the
one
to
the
south
takes
up
a
lot
of
the
parkland,
and
maybe,
if
that
one
were
eliminated,
some
of
these
other
uses
we've
been
talking
about
could
be
could
be
accommodated
by
shifting
things
around
a
little
bit.
I
share
the
concern
that
the
Doug
has
about
the
CV
link
intersection.
A
Uncontrolled
trail
crossings,
which
can
be
quite
hazardous
if
there's
a
lot
of
volume,
so
we
need
to
take
a
look
at
that
with
with
and
with
that
I
think
most
of
I
would
endorse.
Most
of
the
comments
that
have
been
other
people
have
made
and
we'll
try
to
have
maybe
Flynn
can
come
up
with
a
consensus
of
our
thoughts.
A
E
I
I
am
really
confused
about
the
CV
link.
You
know
we
read
and
hear
so
much
about
it.
Certain
communities
are
opting
in
certain
communities
are
opting
out.
This
is
the
alternative
route
for
the
CV
link.
When
are
we
going
to
know
with
finality?
What
the
project
will
will
be
done?
Will
it
be
finalized.
A
I
C
Cathedral
City
behind
us,
Sina
being
built
by
Cathedral
City
under
grant,
but
with
CV
link,
assisting
and
so
we're
seeing
that
we
probably
haven't
had
the
city
do
hearings
or
show
people
potential
routes,
yet
I'm
hoping
they're
gonna
do
that
because
it
would
have
helped
us
if
that
had
happened
earlier.
I
guess.
E
My
question
is:
if,
let's
see,
let's
assume
that
this
route
is
eventually
agreed
to
well,
the
city
then
have
to
do
a
taking
with
respect
to
private
property.
For
the
not
the
city
will
be
the
authority
running
the
CV
link.
Well,
they'll
be
taking,
or
is
there
already
a
right
away?
That's
been
established
through
this
property
for
this
program.
B
No,
there
isn't
a
right-of-way.
That's
been
established
through
this
property.
This
is
being
shown
as
an
alternate
router.
Only
if
this
were
to
become
a
permanent
route
I,
the
city
would
need
to
have
discussions
with
either
the
developer,
depending
on
the
point
in
time
or
the
HOA
relative
to
that.
But.
H
Your
protection,
if
I,
could
interrupt
your
protection
from
the
long
term.
Public
open
use
of
it
would
be
something
other
than
a
ride
away,
but
it
would
give
you
equal
protection
in
a
couple
of
different
ways:
number
one
we
have
CC
and
ours
for
the
community.
That
would
specify
the
use
and
the
open
to
the
public
and
what
it
is
and
how
its
maintained
the
city
is
a
party
to
those
CCN
ours,
and
we
can't
really
change
them
without
the
city.
Looking
at
them,
that's
number
and
number
two:
the
development
agreement.
E
A
As
a
city,
thank
you,
I
think
yeah
we've
in
the
past,
or
we've
suggested
in
the
past
off
we've
actually
done
it.
No,
but
we've
done
in
other
communities
is
established.
A
non-exclusive
easement
over
the
router
that
allows
would
allow
the
city
allow
any
member
of
the
public
to
use
that
route
going
in
and
that
that
would
accomplish
a
lot
of
what
CV
link
needs
to
do,
but.
D
I
D
E
H
H
E
H
Okay
and
and
I
am
a
golf
course
designer
actually,
and
so
the
standard
rule
is
that
from
the
tee
box
you
would
go
just
from
the
middle
of
where
the
person
is
teeing
off.
You
would
put
a
semicircle
behind
you
into
the
sides
of
50
feet.
You
get
to
the
sides
and
then
you
would
go
out
to
where
your
shots
gonna
land
and
you
would
go
out
a
hundred
and
fifty
feet
from
that
center
line.
H
C
I
C
H
Could
I
don't
think
we
need?
Four
could
could
I
make
a
suggestion,
kind
of
I
in
in
our
best
interest,
but
hopefully
in
yours
too,
and
maybe
steal
a
little
bit
of
Flint's
thunder,
which
he'd
probably
give
me,
could
I
try
to
make
an
attempt
at
synthesizing
what
I
heard
from
all
of
you
and
walk
up
to
that
plan
and
say:
if
we
get
this
this
and
this,
do
we
have
kind
of
consensus
on
a
direction
to
go
so
I
can
produce
a
new
plan.
H
There
are
a
lot
of
good
a
lot
of
good
ideas
and
and
I
think
we
might
be
able
to
adapt.
This
I
am
I'll
start
with
the
golf,
since
we
there's
a
lot
of
comment
about
that.
I
am
a
little
bit
loath
to
just
take
it
all
the
way
out,
based
on
the
comment
that
you
just
made
caffeine
from
all
the
comments,
I've
got
from
the
neighbors
I
think
that
the
idea
of
limiting
the
space
that
it
takes
is
a
good
one.
H
I
tried
to
focus
it
on
this
to
use
the
space,
that's
what
I
did,
but
if
we
got
rid
of
these
two
tees
and
we
have
one
or
two
or
even
too
close
to
each
other
and
focus
it
up
into
this
corner,
hitting
this
way
that
would
take
off
over
half
the
area
that
it's
taking
up
and
would
still
have
the
golf
Cathy's
idea,
putting
a
small
dog
park
at
a
large
one
as
a
former
dog
owner
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
It's
easy
to
do
and
if
that
helps
great
I'm
all
for
it.
H
The
idea
of
traffic
calming
and
crosswalks
and
pebbled
surfaces,
and
that
type
of
thing
to
add
to
this,
to
make
it
work,
is
a
great
idea
and
I
think
we
should.
It
gives
us
character.
It
gives
the
community
character
and
as
long
as
it
is
a
public
street,
so
we
need
Marcus
and
staff
to
sign
off
on
it,
and
I'll
certainly
promote
that
I
would
add
it
to
the
plan
play
areas.
H
Just
a
story
for
whatever
reason,
I
was
working
on
one
of
our
projects
up
in
Bakersfield,
with
landscape
architect,
up
at
north
of
the
River
Park
and
Rec
District
in
Bakersfield,
and
brought
up
this
project
and
talked
about
this
park
design,
and
she
brought
up
a
book
with
a
structure
that
maybe
I'd
like
to
throw
out
as
an
idea.
I
wish.
I
could
remember
where
I've
seen
them
physically,
but
I
have
the
catalog.
H
I
could
probably
get
it
to
Flynn,
but
I
believe
very
firmly,
based
on
our
research
that
this
is
going
to
primarily
be
no
matter
what
we
do.
The
markets
going
to
be
people
that
are
older
than
40,
primarily
live
here
and
I.
Don't
expect
a
lot
of
kids
I!
Don't
expect
them
to
be
here.
I!
Think
it's
going
to
be
primarily
adults.
I
hear
you
relative
to
okay.
We
are
providing
a
more
affordable
product
and
they're
likely
to
be
families,
because
it's
a
good
place
for
them
to
be
able
to
get
into.
H
H
Yes,
these
ones.
I'll
try
to
describe
them
there
they're
like
a
rope
climb
and
they
look
almost
like
a
like
a
pyramid
like
a
volcanic
type
thing
and
you
climb
up
to
the
top
and
you
use
your
hands
and
you
get
a
view
and
you
get
up
and
then
desert.
That's
nice,
because
you
can
see
up
to
the
mountains.
You
can
see
the
community
and
look
at
something
like
that.
That
provides
some.
Maybe
agility,
type
and
kids
will
be
all
over
that
anyway,
but
as
opposed
to
slides
and
swing,
sets
the.
D
E
F
H
E
For
example,
you
want
to
subscribe
the
structure
that
adults
and
children
can
list.
It
sounds
like
it's
an
interesting
one,
but
I'm,
not
a
Park
and
recs
expert
to
know
whether
that's
community,
sensitive
or
not,
I,
just
I
just
think
would
be
sure
to
check
with
an
expert
on
some
of
these
things
right.
H
Okay
makes
sense,
but
that's
an
idea
to
try
to
you
know,
throw
something
out
there.
I,
don't
know
what
to
say
about
pickleball
honestly
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear:
I'll
look
into
it
and
that's
something
that
probably
appropriate
to
talk
to
your
Park
and
Rec
direct
about,
say
you
know.
What's
the
what's
the
consensus
and
the
comment
about
having
the
loop
I
think
is
a
very
good
one.
It's
probably
intended
here.
H
We
just
didn't
get
to
that
level
of
detail,
especially
if
it's
DG
along
the
side
and
I
was
struggling
on
how
to
deal
with
the
word
natural
landscape
with
shrubs
in
here.
But
the
idea
of
doing
a
demonstration,
garden,
I
think,
is
a
really
good
one
and
that's
something
that
I
think
could
be
incorporated
within
this
area.
H
There
are
all
of
six
houses
on
this
cul-de-sac
and
I
know
it
is
a
street
and
it's
open
but
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
it
necessarily
that
big
of
a
safety
hazard
as
opposed
to
a
collector
Street
or
a
loop
street,
or
something
with
kids
in
here
so
I'm.
My
personal
take
is
I,
think,
that's
probably
a
good
place
for
turf,
but
maybe
there's
some
an
additional
place.
If
we
put
a
structure
of
something
we
could
put
a
low
fence,
that's
easy
enough
put
a
tube
steel
fence
across
here
to
make
it
even
safer.
E
H
C
D
B
C
H
A
B
Absolutely
I've
got
based
on
what
mr.
Taylor
has
just
discussed.
I've
got
a
list
of
ten
proposed
amendments
to
this
plan
and,
if
you
want,
I
can
just
run
through
these
very
quickly.
One
is
to
limit
the
space
of
the
golf,
and
he
talked
about
eliminating
two
of
the
tees
number
two
is
to
add
a
small
dog
park
so
that
you
separate
large
and
small
dogs.
Number
three
is
to
increase
the
sight
distance
at
the
trail.
B
Intersection
number
four
is
to
provide
traffic
calming
changes
of
surface
and
crosswalks
adjacent
to
the
entrance
here
and
where
the
trail
crosses
number
five
is
to
add
a
play
area
for
smaller
children
and
what
was
discussed
is
potentially
agility
type
play
structures,
as
opposed
to
necessarily
swing
sets
or
slides.
In
addition,
it
was
discussed
to
perhaps
offer
pickleball
as
an
alternative
or
an
option
to
the
tennis
courts.
B
Number
seven
is
relative
to
providing
a
loop
trail
on
the
east
side
of
the
park
in
the
dog
Lake
area,
as
we're
coming
to
call
it
number
eight
is
to
provide
a
demonstration
garden
that
would
also
potentially
be
in
the
dog
leg
area.
Number.
Nine
is
to
consider
providing
a
low
fence
around
the
open
turf
area
for
safety
considerations,
and
the
number
ten
is
to
provide
more
shade
trees
as
part
of
the
overall
park
plan.
Does
that
encapsulate
the
recommendations,
the
loop
path?
Yes,.
D
At
this
point
in
time,
I
don't
want
to
illuminate
the
looking
at
more
kind
of
younger
children,
amenities.
I
know
this
rope
structure
sounds
intriguing,
but
I
don't
think
you
we
have
agreement
in
the
commission
here
that
that's
the
way
to
go.
I
think
you
know
in
consultation
with
the
of
the
parks
department.
You
know.
Maybe
there
we
do
need
something
more
toddler
oriented,
so
I
don't
want
to
throw
that
out
at.
A
J
Children
I
think
you
know
making
a
multi-purpose
thing
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
I
think
that
any
HOA,
if
they're
maintaining
this,
would
be
hesitant
to
take
on
the
liability
of
true
play
structures.
Just
based
on
what
I've
heard
in
the
past.
It
could
be
a
nightmare,
so
I
think
the
idea
of
making
something
a
little
bit
more
multi-purpose
is
probably
a
good
one.