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A
C
A
B
A
Passes
we're
at
public
comment,
and
this
is
the
time
that's
been
set
aside
for
members
of
the
public
to
address
the
planning
commission
on
consent,
calendar
and
other
agenda
items,
the
items
of
general
interest
and
items
of
general
interest
within
the
subject
matter.
Jurisdiction
of
the
commission.
Please
note
that
the
planning
commission
is
prohibited
from
taking
action
on
items
not
listed
on
the
postage
agenda.
A
Three
minutes
will
be
allowed
for
each
speaker.
Testimony
for
public
hearings
may
be
offered
at
this
time
or
at
the
time
of
hearing.
We
have
only
we'll
have
two
public
hearings
tonight,
so
people
can
testify
now
where
they
can
wait
until
the
item
is
before
us.
Do
we
have
any
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
speak.
A
Thank
you.
We
have
no
consent.
Calendar
items,
the
first
matter
that
is
before
the
commission
is
item
2a,
core
palm
springs,
llc
doing
business
as
living
out
for
an
amendment
to
an
approved
plan,
development
district
to
convert
condominiums
to
one
to
122
unit
unit
apartments
and
a
revision
of
the
tentative
trap
tract
map.
A
E
There
we
go
okay,
sorry,
so
the
planning
commission
reviewed
the
project
on
november
18th
and
they
had
a
series
of
items
that
they
wanted.
The
applicant
to
review.
E
One
was
a
community
garden
size,
a
swimming
pool,
look
at
parking
reduction,
building,
elevations
carport
design,
the
distance
that
someone
would
have
to
walk
from
the
parking
lot
into
the
building
and
add
shade
trees
along
pathways
and
then
screening
of
the
parking
lots
itself.
So
the
planning
commission
sent
the
project
onto
the
architectural
advisory
committee
and
they
met
december
127th
and
they
reviewed
revised
plans
which
we're
going
to
review
in
just
a
minute.
E
But
their
recommendation
to
the
planning
commission
was
an
approval
with
the
carport
designed
to
be
reduced
in
height,
add
trees
between
the
street
and
the
southwest
building
end
of
the
building
and
re-evaluate
the
design
of
the
building
ends.
So
the
the
application
that
was
sent
to
the
planning
commission
in
the
packet
includes
revisions
that
the
iac
requested.
E
So
when
looking
at
the
the
plans
that
are
before
you
on
this
slide,
this
is
a
comparison
of
the
approved
versus
what
they're
proposing
to
the
planning
commission
today
and
we're
going
to
go
into
some
specifics.
E
One
is
that
they've
added
the
bigger
pool
which
is
there.
If
you
remember
there
was
questions
about
the
size
of
the
pool
and
at
the
time
they
had
not
figured
out
exactly
what
the
size
of
the
pool
was
going
to
be,
but
here
they've
redesigned
it
they've
moved
it
farther
away
from
the
building
a
little
bit.
E
There
was
concerns
at
the
plat
at
the
aac
that
the
height
of
the
building
would
possibly
shade
the
pool
and
then
make
it
non-usable
sometimes
of
the
year,
but
the
project
architect
has
has
stated
that
it
is
farther
enough
away
that
it
will
receive
sun
most
of
the
year
they've,
also
added
landscaping
between
tacowitz
and
the
building
itself.
E
They've
also
worked
on
a
carport
design,
which
we
will
go
over
in
just
a
minute
here.
This
is
the
design
of
the
carport
when
it
went
to
the
planning
commission
last
this.
This
design
had
not
been
fleshed
out,
but
this
is
what
the
was
presented
to
the
aac
and
at
the
time
they
didn't
have
these
dimensions
that
showed
the
heights.
So
the
height
of
the
carport
is
variable.
It
goes
from
8
feet
to
a
maximum
height
of
10
feet.
E
E
E
In
the
same,
one
of
the
recommendations
of
the
aac
was
that
the
side
that
faces
north,
which
would
be
the
vacant
lot
or
the
parking
lot
of
the
convention
center,
also
be
treated
and
they
are
adding
the
stonework
on
the
stair
tower
itself
there.
E
So
just
some
looking
at
some
examples
of
what
the
design
will
look
like
this
is
the
previously
approved,
but
you'll
see
that
the
stairwell
has
the
stone
on
it
and
then
the
quarten
cladding
they've
put
back
so
when
the
planning
commission
saw
this
in
november.
This
is
not
what
was
proposed,
but
now
they
are
proposing
this
this
design.
E
Once
again,
this
was
a
slide
that
the
planning
commission
aac
has
seen,
and
this
was
the
approved
and
will
be
similar
to
what
they're
proposing
today
there's
also
in
your
packet.
There
are
elevations
showing
the
building
itself
materials
which
the
planning
commission
is
approved,
they're
all
the
same
materials,
and
there
was
a
question
about
the
public
plaza
that's
proposed
at
the
corner.
This
is
a
slide
or
diagram
of
what
the
corner
public
amenity
parklet
would
look
like
so
chair.
E
The
planning
commission
needs
to
make
several
findings
in
order
for
you
to
approve
the
conversion
of
the
condominiums
to
apartments.
Those
findings
are
are
in
your
staff
report.
There
are
three,
so
staff
believes
that
the
project
is
conformance
and
substantially
in,
in
conformance
with
the
approved
project,
and
recommends
that
the
planning
commission
approve
the
conversion
to
apartments.
E
So
that
concludes
my
report
and
the
applicant
will
have
a
presentation
when
they
come
on.
F
No,
the
the
whole
list.
Sorry,
they
looked
at,
see
we're
getting
an
echo
so
a
little
hard
to
concentrate,
but
one
of
the.
E
The
aac
did
discuss
it.
It
was
brought
up
as
a
recommendation
or
an
item
to
look
by
the
planning
commission.
However,
they
have
added
the
carports.
F
Okay
and
during
the
planning.
F
This
echoes
kind
of
distracting
me
during
the
planning
discussion
planning,
commission
discussion.
I
brought
up.
I
I
think
we
talked
about
section
14
requirements
for
shade
trees
along
chocolates
of
my
memory
serves
me
right
and
there
was
a
discussion
or
maybe
even
a
a
recommendation
or
requirement
that
they
they
provide
shade
trees
along
top
with
some.
I
don't
know
if
that's
been
done
here,
but
it
looks
like
it
probably
hasn't.
Is
that
to
your
recollection.
E
So
I
remember
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
shading
the
walkways
within
the
project
itself,
and
the
applicant
has
added
a
lot
more
shade
trees
in
the
pa.
The
little
pathways
within
the
development
itself
along
tacowicz.
There
are
requirements
to
provide
trees.
There
are
the,
as
you
know,
chocolates,
is
a
boulevard
and
has
the
section
14
has
requirements
on
the
types
of
trees
that
they
would
plant.
E
So
there
are
some
large
trees
along
the
dog
park
to
shade
the
the
park
itself
and
the
the
sidewalk.
There
are
trees
that
are
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
south
west
end
of
the
building,
and
then
there
are
you
know
the
the
retail
building
has
some
trees,
a
large
tree
in
the
parklet
itself.
F
Yeah,
I
was
particularly
concerned
about
people
walking
along
the
sidewalk
of
chocolates
and
providing
shady
trees
along
that
pathway,
but
I
can
discuss
that
with
the
applicant.
A
A
They
they
asked
questions,
they
didn't
make
any
recommendations
and
there
was
one
dissenting
vote
and
that
was
because
of
the
site
plan,
and
the
dissenting
vote
was
that
he
wanted
a
different,
a
different
site
plan
for
condos
I
mean
or
for
apartments,
with
the
parking
having
been
moved.
A
So
I
don't
it
and
commissioner
song,
I
think,
was
in
attendance.
I
know
I
watched
it.
Is
that
generally
your
feeling
as
to
what
happened
regarding
the.
G
Parking
that's
correct.
I
I
believe
the
the
the
mood
was
that
it
was
not
conclusive,
but
there
was
still
a
question,
but
it
was
not
brought
back
into
the
list
of
recommendations,
as
you
see
here
on
our
report.
Unfortunately,.
A
There
being
no
other
questions
of
staff,
I'm
going
to
open
the
public
hearing.
The
applicant
has
10
minutes.
H
There
we
go.
I
thought
I
might
have
been
the
feedback,
so
I
I
muted
myself
when
we
met
in
when
you
met
in
november.
You
addressed
eight
points
and
others
that
glenn
has
reviewed
with
you
and,
and
we
have
a
slide
glenn.
Do
you
have
that
to
be
able
to
put
up
a
series
of
slides
so
again
to
review
the
items
that
were
discussed
by
the
planning
commission
and
were
sent
to
the
aac?
H
H
The
parking
lot
location
and
distance
to
entrances
was
in
fact
addressed,
and
I
can
address
it
again
when
we
get
to
that
section
of
my
presentation
to
add
shade
trees
along
the
pedestrian
paths
and
to
require
a
four
foot
tall
wall
of
berm
along
hermosa,
as
required
by
the
code
at
the
aac.
All
of
these
items
were
discussed.
The
site
plan,
the
vegetation,
the
elevations
and
out
of
that
came
that
they
wanted
the
carport
design
to
be
reduced
in
height.
H
I
think
before
it
was
like
9
and
12,
that
was
we
were
proposing,
but
to
reduce
it
to
8
and
10
to
add
trees
along
the
chocolate's
end
to
shield
that
that
side
from
tockwits,
which
we've
done
and
to
enhance
the
building
elevations
to
make
them
as
they
were
concerned
less
plane
and
to
add
some
of
the
architectural
elements
that
we
had
in
the
in
the
building
before
in
other
parts
of
the
building
other
than
the
ends,
which
was
primarily
the
court
and
steel,
the
stone
and
some
bump
outs.
H
So
the
site
plan
that
glenn
showed
and
that
we're
showing
on
the
right
is
the
plan
that
we're
proposing
now
compared
to
the
plan
that
we
submitted
last
month
and
then
the
next
slide.
Glenn
is
the
site
plan,
just
the
site
plan
itself,
so
that
you
could
take
a
look
at
it
and
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
go
through
various
sections
of
the
site
plan
and
address
what
we've
done
in
each
of
those
areas
to
address
both
the
aac
comments
and
the
commission's
comments.
H
So
the
first
slide
is
the
north
amenity
area.
Where
the
pool
is
we
have
designed
the
pool.
Now
it
is
a
2400
square
foot
pool.
I
have
checked
with
other
properties
of
a
similar
size,
senior
apartment
properties,
and
this
is
substantially
larger
than
many
of
the
pools
and
in
those
competitive
properties,
we've
added
the
community
gardens
in
the
top
right.
You
can
see
and
we
added
shade
because
it
doesn't
show
the
number
five,
but
there
are
shade
trees,
all
along
the
walking
paths
and
in
the
west
area
as
well,
is
where
it's
numbered.
H
As
you
might
be,
you
might
remember,
the
setback
is
substantially
greater
than
it
was
as
a
condo
project,
but
the
commission
was
concerned
about
its
view
from
the
street
and
so
and
the
aac
was
as
well
so
we've
added
we've
more
than
doubled.
I
believe
the
number
of
trees
at
the
top
with
end
to
kind
of
shield,
the
building
from
topwitz.
H
We
have
added
the
four
foot
wall
and
hedges
along
hermosa
as
it
relates
to
deferring
the
counting
part
at
the
the
parking
count.
I
would
prefer
to
defer
that,
because
I'd
like
to
see
how
it
operates,
I
mean
it's,
it's
possible.
We
have
nine
extra
spaces
over
code
and
it's
possible
that
we
may
need
those
spaces.
If
not,
people
will
be
parking
on
hermosa
so
that
that
would
be
my
request
to
to.
Let
me
see
how
that
operates
before
we
make
that
decision.
H
I
I
will
say
you
know
your
developers
say
this
all
the
time,
but
this
is
not
like
a
shopping
center,
where
you
know
they're
really
interested
in
getting
you
in
the
in
the
store
and
they're
not
so
interested
in
the
landscaping,
we're
designing
someone's
home
and
if
we
don't
need
those
parking
spaces.
I
think,
as
a
good
operator,
we
would
take
them
out
and
put
in
trees,
because
we
want
to
enhance
our
residents
experience
and
if
we,
if
we
can
do
that,
we
would
do
that.
H
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
at
planning
less
discussion
at
aac
about
the
distance
to
walk.
I
think,
last
time
we
were
asked
what
the
distance
was
from
the
furthest
space
on
hermosa
to
the
front
entrance.
That
was
about
315
feet.
I
believe,
of
course
we
would
not
be
assigning
residents
those
spaces.
The
residents
will
be
assigned
spaces
closest
to
their
entrance
and
we
did
not.
H
We
failed
to
point
out
last
time
that
there
are
three
entrances
to
the
building
for
the
residents
there's
one
at
the
top,
which
end
with
an
elevator
there's
one
at
the
hermosa
end
with
an
elevator
and
then
there's
the
main
entrance,
and
for
wherever
we
would
park
residents
no
resident
would
walk
more
than
230
feet
from
their
car
to
the
residence,
but
as
I've
discussed
with
others,
this
is
a
primarily
a
management
issue
in
my
mind,
because
I
I
can't
have
my
residents
having
a
bad
experience
and
not
being
able
to
get
to
their
apartment
comfortably.
H
H
This
is
intended
to
be
a
high-end
building
in
in
terms
of
quality,
and
so
we
intend
to
have
a
concierge,
a
full-time
concierge
at
the
front
desk,
and
we
could
work.
It
will
will
work
with
whatever
ideas
we
are.
Our
management
has
to
make
sure
that
the
concierge
has
the
ability
to
take
keys
from
someone
and
move
a
car
if
that
becomes
necessary
to
take
in
the
groceries
for
the
for
the
tenant,
and
so
in
order
to
have
golf
carts.
H
Whatever
the
experience
that
we
need,
we
will
we
will
do
but
to
commit
to
valet
parking,
which
I
know
has
been
on.
The
minds
of
the
commissioners
is
a
cost
that
ultimately
will
be
passed
on
to
the
residents
and
hasn't
proven
itself
to
be
necessary,
a
full-time
ballet.
Something
like
that.
So
I
would
ask
that
you
rely
on
us
to
make
that
determination
as
good
managers
and
that's
how
we've
we
would
like
to
deal
with
that
and
that's
how
we
presented
it
to
the
aac
as
well.
H
The
carports
are
designed
based
upon
an
inspiration
from
the
aseena
project,
the
walkway
at
the
restaurant.
There
is
this
kind
of
open
covering
it
looks
open,
but
it's
it's
quite
stunning
and
our
designer
designed
something
based
upon
that.
It's
a
very
simple
structure,
we'll
give
some
height
and
some
variation
so
that
it's
not
like
a
mass
of
carports
and
as
as
the
only
comment
that
the
ase
liked
the
design,
the
only
comments
that
they
made
were
about
reducing
the
heights,
and
we
have
done
that.
H
And
finally,
the
elevations.
We
have
the
slides
showing
the
elevations
of
what
they
were
compared
to
what
we're
proposing.
Now
at
the
aac,
there
was
some
questioning
about
the
the
the
exterior
elevations,
but
frankly,
all
of
the
conversation
was
about
the
ends
of
the
chocolates
and
the
hermosa
primarily
and,
as
I
said,
they
found
that
that
was
too
plain
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
building
and
they
asked
us
to
add
the
stone
and
the
corten
steel
and
the
bumpouts
which
we
have
done
and
there
are
slides
to
show
again
glenn.
H
If
you
can
show
the
last
slide.
That
will
show
what
the
the
variation
that
we've
added
to
this
plane
ends
as
the
aac
has
required.
A
I
have
one
or
two:
what
are
the
oh.
I'm
sorry,
commissioner
song
thank.
G
You,
madam
chair,
mr
astro,
can
you
explain
the
reason
from
going
from
105
to
1.
H
22
yeah,
yes,
first
of
all,
these
are
apartments
which
will
be
somewhat
smaller,
so
we
we
could
fit
more
apartments
in
and
frankly,
it's
a
revenue
issue,
because
this
project
has
to
be
economic
and
at
105
we
couldn't
make
the
economics
work,
whereas
at
122
we
can.
G
Okay,
do
you
plan
to
have
a
on-site
living
manager
or
staff.
H
H
No
I'm
just
saying
that
if
we
don't
have
enough
spaces
and
guests
and
and
the
retail
to
serve
the
guests
in
the
retail
as
well
as
the
residents.
Ultimately,
if
we
took
out
the
nine
spaces,
I'm
just
saying
that
they
would
end
up
parking
on
the
city
street.
It's
not
a
concern,
I'm
just
it's
an
observation.
There
would
be
no
else
for
them
to
park.
G
The
other
question
is
the
energy
driveway,
not
the
first
one
for
the
business,
but
the
main
driveway
off
of
hermosa
did
your
design
team.
Was
there
any
concern
about
having
the
back
of
tree
the
back
of
cars
pulling
out
on
that
entrance,
driveway.
H
I'm
not
sure
what
your
question
is.
Commissioner,
it's
the
same.
Driveway
that
was
approved
before
we
didn't
modify
that
driveway.
I
don't
believe,
did
we
it.
G
Was
before
you
had
a
palm
tree
lined
major
sort
of
bullet
bar
with
lined
on
both
sides.
There
was
no
parking
in
order
to
lead
to
the
rotary,
and
now
your
design
is.
You
have
the
back
of
cars,
parking
90
degrees
to
that
entry,
driveway.
B
I
do
not
believe
they
would
enter
or
exit
those
parking
spaces
by
coming
into
the
driveway.
They
would
have
to
come
through
the
circle
and
then
into
the
parking
area
so
that
there
would
not
be
they
would
not
be
backing
out
onto
the
driveway.
I
believe
that's
certainly
the
intent,
so
there
would
be
landscaping
still
along
the
drive,
significant
landscaping.
I
Yeah,
I
was
muted,
I
I
couldn't
get
it
on
okay
hi.
This
is
jerry
sherman,
the
architect
yeah,
to
answer
your
question.
That
is,
that
is
correct,
but
we
didn't
feel.
Oh
I'm
sorry
I'll
start
my
video
apologize.
I
We
didn't
feel
that
it
was
that
detrimental,
because
we
don't
feel
being
apartments
rather
than
condos,
that
we
are
going
to
have
a
lot
of
heavy
traffic
there
and
we
don't
feel
it's
really
any
different
than
any
typical
parking
and
driveway
condition.
We
didn't
see
it
as
a
real
issue.
G
Okay,
then,
the
next
question
is
on
the
west
wing
of
the
building
facing
east.
Obviously,
the
west
wing
will
be
three
stories.
Yes,
yes,
you
have,
along
that.
I
Do
you
want
me
to
I'm
sorry
lauren,
should
I
answer
yeah
sure?
Okay,
I'm
I'm
just
I!
I
couldn't
see
it
in
the
small
form,
so
I'm
pulling
it
up
now.
Well,
I
don't
know
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
our
proposed
site
plan
number
18.,
that's
where
the
screen
hedges
are
and
can
you
kind
of
orient
what
what
trees
you're
talking
about.
I
Yeah,
I'm
trying
to
look
it's
very
small
and
he's.
I
G
Oh,
I
could
have
said
it
the
wrong
way
too.
So
south
side
of
the
west
wing,
especially
closer
to
the
rotary
around
about,
were
you
are
you
planning
to
have.
G
Those
many
gap,
trees,
trees
or
were
you
that
was
just
a
rendering
and
you
actually
had
more
plans
along
the
south
side.
I
G
I
G
I
Yes,
so
on
the
east
wing,
for
example,
we
have
yeah
with
the
parking
lot
along
hermosa.
We
have
a
small
parking
lot
there.
Do
you
see
that
on
the
east
side,
correct
yeah?
So
when,
when
you
get
there,
that's
that's
obviously
dictating
where
we
could
put
trees
along
there
is
that
is
that
what
you're
referencing
to
I
I
apologize.
I'm
a
little
confused.
I
The
problem
with
that,
where
we're
playing
with
the
geometry
here
is
by
by
pushing
west
or
even
north,
to
increase
areas
on
those
sides
we're
running
into
setback,
issues
on
the
west
property
line
and
the
north
property
line.
If,
if
I'm
understanding,
you
correctly.
G
Right
but
you
have
you,
you
have
more
than
enough
on
the
south
property.
You
actually
increased
it
when
it's
not
needed.
B
I
I
Know
what
they
wanted,
they,
no,
no,
I'm
so
she's
maria's
talking
about
the
setbacks
and
where
the
building
is
situated,
lauren.
No,
no,
the
the
idea,
part
of
the
problem
was
that
again,
it's
geometry
as
we
pull
if
we
pull
south.
If
we
reduce
say
the
talk
would
set
back
correct,
then
we're
creeping
further
into
the
parking
lot
area,
we're
reducing
all
of
those
pinch
points
and
we
wanted
to
create
buffers
along
the
building
as
much
as
we
can
from
the
parking
to
the
building.
Well,.
I
Well,
maybe,
to
give
you
some
scale,
the
distance
on
the
east
wing,
for
example,
from
the
driveway
to
the
building,
is
probably
a
good
50
feet.
Almost
50
feet
there
at
the
furthest
point,
and
obviously
it
gets
narrower
as
it
as
it
turns
in
as
it
gets
toward
the
center
of
the
building.
I
Yes,
if
you,
if
you
refer
to
the
site
plan
and
if
you
look
on
the
east
wing,
say
I'll
use
a
reference
number
number
16
on
the
plan
there-
that
setback
from
the
building
to
the
driveway
there
is
a
good
50
plus
feet
away
and
the
patios
are
about
16
feet
at
the
narrow
point.
So
we
still
have
almost
30
feet
from
patio
wall
to
to
driveway
approximately.
I
So
it's
quite
a
large
area.
Actually,
I'm
sorry
go
on
maureen.
G
So
I
I
understand,
I
appreciate
that
clarification,
it's
more
about,
for
example,
I
I
I
understand
mr
austria's
concern,
but,
for
example,
if
just
imaginative
right,
if
those
tap
spaces
were
not
there,
that
would
be
additional
landscape
space
for
more
trees.
So
they
could
be
in
composition
to
the
building
as
part
of
the
layering.
I
I
I
G
Yes,
to
be
to
be
honest
with
you
just
out
of
the
brain
hair
idea
is
that
if
you
were
to
make
the
west
wing
longer
and
make
the
north
wing
shorter.
G
Okay,
you
could
push
the
build.
I
mean
locate
the
willing
to
create
that
buffer.
But
mr
sherman,
you
do
you,
you
understood
correctly,
my
intent,
yeah
and-
and
I
have
two
more
questions
and
thank
you
for
explaining
that
one
is
that
this
did
you
do
a
study
where
this
forefoot
burn
firm
when
people
are
driving
or
people
are
walking,
they
will
not
see
the.
I
Parking
we
we
haven't
done
that
study
yet,
and
I
think
what
we,
what
I
heard
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
lauren,
is
that
it
wasn't
decided
whether
it
will
be
a
wall
or
a
berm.
I
I
think
part
of
that
was
still
open
for
discussion
that
that
they
would
like
one
or
the.
Obviously,
we
have
to
provide
one
or
the
other.
B
I
Yeah,
but
I
think
what
we
what
we
have
landed
on
as
well,
is
that
as
we're
doing
our
grading
design
on
this,
that,
if
we
do
have
some
excess
soil,
we
would
like
to
do
berming,
and
then
we
will.
We
will
look
at
obviously
blocking
the
parking,
but
I
would
like
to
also
point
out
that,
on
the
parking
stru
on
the
parking
car
porch,
I
should
say
all
the
ends
there
have
screens
that
landscaping
will
be
planted
in
front
of
it
too
as
well.
If
you
look
at
the
carport
design.
G
I
Well,
that
was
one
of
the
that's
a
great
point.
I
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up,
because
I
think
it
wasn't
discussed
that
one
of
the
requests
we
would
we
were
going
to
ask
for
is
that,
because
of
the
carports,
putting
shade
trees
in
these
next
to
the
carports
there'd
be
a
real
big
issue,
because
the
the
trees
wouldn't
be
tall
enough.
I
H
Believe
mr
malacca
told
us
that
that
would,
if,
if
they,
if
the
carports
were
approved,
that
that
would
come
as
a
matter
of
course
that
the
chain
from
the
from
the
carports
would
replace
the
trees.
The
shade
from
the
trees
would
be
acceptable
and
that
we
would
have
low
shrubbery
in
between,
as
opposed
to.
G
Trees,
mr
sherman,
would
you
be
open
to
congregate
the
tree
islands
in
the
landscape
space,
so
they
are
substantially
bigger
and
you
can
have
a
tree
grove
rather
than
seeing
a
tree
every
five
spaces
and
not
know
if
that
tree
is
going
to
make
it
or
not.
I
It's
a
great
great
point
and
I
and
I'm
going
to
defer
part
of
that
to
to
lauren,
but
I
guess
my
my
question
is
by
code.
I
thought
we're
required
to
have
these
every
five
stalls.
E
G
Yes,
yes,
okay,
so
the
so
the
trees
have
a
very
chance
to
be
together
and
actually
create
a
much
better
mass
in
before
you
see
the
building.
B
H
I
B
I
The
only
qualifier
I
would
ask
on
that
is
that
again
it's
it's
math
and
size
is
that
if
we
run
into
areas
where
we
can't
get
them
all
congregated
where
we
might
have
one
island,
if
again,
we
could
we
could
trade
the
trees
for
the
gra
landscaping
in
the
planter,
because
I
think
there
is
a
real
conflict
with
the
with
the
carports
and
trees.
B
I
Right
now,
the
the
fascia
that
we're
showing
is
18
inches
in
the
front
right
now
and
and
the
problem
we
have
is
because
actually,
when
we
had
it
at
nine
feet,
I
would
have.
I
would
have
probably
invited
part
of
that
and
looked
at
that,
but
because
they
wanted
us
to
lower
it
now
we're
at
we're
at
eight
feet
and
again
I
can't
go
much
lower
than
that
for
clearances
by
code.
I
don't
think
so.
I
G
Okay,
I
believe
it
may
be
top
heavy,
but
that
is
my
commentary,
and
I
appreciate
for
for
entering
in
this
dialogue
with
me.
Thank
you.
F
A
You
have
to
you
have
to
unpin
it
on
your.
B
F
F
Yeah,
so
my
question
is
to
the
right
of
the
elevator
tower:
there's
an
element
with
cortan
and
then
the
lower
part
of
that
I'm
guessing
is
that
stucco.
F
And
then
is
there
an
a
change
of
plane
between
the
cortana
and
the
stucco.
I
D
I
I
I
Well,
you're,
just
the
change
of
plane.
There
is
really
more
the
substructure
and
the
build
out
of
the
of
the
core
10,
so
there
will
be
a
slight
change
of
plane,
but
not
an
exaggerated.
It's
just
material
change.
There
still
is
a
brown
coat
of
plaster
behind
it
and
then
the
thickness
of
the
of
the
metal
panels.
F
I
I
Comment
against
that
is
that
that
these
are
the
elements,
that's
why
we
that's
why
aac
one
of
the
plant
more
trees
there
is
that
that
lower
portion
will
will
not
be
seen
very
well
actually
from
the
general
public.
I
It
occurs
on
the
it
occurs
on
the
east
side
as
well,
and
again
that
side,
where
we're
having
the
hedges
and
the
trees
and
the
walls
to
hype
that
lower
portion
to
hide
the
car.
As
you
wouldn't
see,
then
there's
carports
there
too.
Okay.
B
I
I
F
I
I
I
don't
know
who
approved
it,
but
I'm
I'm
concerned
that
it's
not
look
like
stacked
stone.
I
mean
stacked.
Stone
is
what
the
elevation
shows,
but
that's
a
very
1980s
1990s
look
and
I
I
I
I'd
like
to
see
when
you
choose
exactly
what
you
want
to
use.
There
go
back
to
aac
or
planning
commission
for
approval,
because,
right
now
it's
a
little
vague.
You
don't
even
know
what
you're
going
to
use
and
I'm
totally
against
a
stacked
stone,
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
big
mistake.
H
E
Yes,
commissioner,
the
the
project
does
come
back
for
final
development
review
through
the
aac
and
the
planning
commission.
So
a
lot
of
these
details
will
be
shown
on
almost
construction
documents
that
you
will
see
again.
I
Excuse
me,
michael
I'm,
sorry
to
interrupt
if
glenn
could
show
the
material
board,
it
does
show
the
stone
we're
looking
to
use
on
there.
Well.
F
F
I
I
believe
I
commented
on
with
and
I'm
more
I'm
actually
focusing
on
the
public
realm
rather
than
the
private
walkways
within
the
development
and
there's
some
concern
that
I
would
have
about
walking
on
the
sidewalk
on
top
with
and
making
sure
that
that
area
is
shaded
can
you
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
trees
these
are,
and
maybe
I
don't
need
to
specify
it
now.
But
but
my
I
would
be
looking
to
have
a
shaded
walk
on
that
on
that
top
with
sidewalk.
I
May
I
comment
on
that
sure.
Oh
great,
thank
you.
A
long
talk
with
again
the
the
top
rights
portion
where
the
retail
and
dog
park
are
that
was
that
was
previously
approved,
and
if
you
look
along
there,
we
have
about
eight
shade
trees
indicated
there
right
along
this
sidewalk.
F
Specifics
of
it,
but
I
I
I'm
concerned
that
the
sidewalk
is
shaded
and
and
when
you
come
back
with
your
final
landscape
plan,
hopefully
you'll
indicate
that
that
that's
the
case.
Okay,
that's
how
I
really
need
to
say
now.
A
You,
commissioner,
lewin
you
had
questions.
D
D
So
I
wanted
to
ask,
and
if
staff
could
bring
up
what's
labeled,
as
section
11
see
that,
but
in
the
back
of
the
packet
we
have
one
or
two
renderings
that
are
kind
of
3d
renderings
of
that
corner
glenn.
Do
you
think
he
could
bring
that
up
for
us
we're
all
looking
at
the
same
thing.
D
D
This
would
be
a
place
to
offer
respite
and
shade
for
people
that
would
be
walking
in
our
desert
heat
and
specifically,
we
mentioned
to
have
the
benches
shade:
trees,
plural
in
the
water
fountain,
the
ability
for
somebody
to
drink,
and
I
see
that
in
the
staff
summary
that
was
given
to
aac
that
really
wasn't
spelled
out
and
when
I
look
at
this
corner,
I
I
gotta
be
honest
as
much
as
I
like
what
you're
doing
everywhere
else
on
your
property.
This
doesn't
look
like
a
public
plaza
to
me.
D
H
D
H
No,
it
was,
it
was
not
overlooked.
We
we,
we
did
not
change
the
the
plaza.
H
We
didn't
really
look
at
changing
the
plaza,
because
this
isn't
what
we're
seeking
is
an
amendment
to
an
approval
and
the
plaza
came
about
as
a
result
of
the
need
of
our
having
a
dog
park
and
a
a
dog
facility
that
was
required
by
virtue
of
the
location
that
we're
in
that
we
had
to
provide
a
public
benefit.
H
Just
for
that
purpose,
and
so
the
balance
of
you
know
what
we
were
thinking
as
a
modification
and
the
public
benefit
was
already
weighed
by
aac,
by
planning
and
by
the
city
council,
and
we
are
not
seeking
any
modification
to
any
of
of
anything
that
had
required
that
public
benefit.
So
we
didn't
focus
on
the
public
benefit
right.
So.
E
Change
again,
commissioner,
so
this
project,
this
plaza,
was
worked
through
with
the
planning,
the
previous
planning
commission
and
the
aac,
and
there
were
conditions
of
approval
that
included
benches
and
fountains
and
shade
trees.
So
this
is
just
a
sort
of
rendering
of
what
it
could
look
like.
As
we
mentioned,
the
final
landscape
plan
will
come
back
to
aac
and
the
planning
commission
for
final
review
and
those
items
were
actually
listed
as
conditions
of
approval.
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
Maybe
I
could
ask
a
couple
of
follow-up
questions,
because
I'm
a
little
confused
one
is
the
dog
park
going
to
be
open
to
the
public
or
just
to
the
residents
of
the
community.
H
Just
to
the
residents
of
the
community
okay
and
to
enter
the
people
who
are
using
the
pet
facility
if
people
have
their
pets
there
during
the
day
or
overnight
at
the
dog
hotel,
those
those
dogs
will
be
using
that
as
well.
So
to
that
extent,
it's
open
to
the
public
as
customers
of
the
of
the
dog
facility.
D
And
then
glenn,
I
heard
you
say
that
the
area
that
we're
looking
at
actually
is
conditioned
to
have
these
amenities,
and
I
hear
the
builders
the
applicants
say
no.
No.
What
we're
looking
at
here
is
what's
actually
going
to
happen.
H
No,
no,
that's
not
what
I
said.
That's
not
what
I
said,
commissioner,
what
I
said
was
we
did
not
look
at
it
further
again
with
aac
this
time,
because
it's
already
been
approved
and
whatever
the
conditions
of
approval
were
that
have
already
been
approved
by
planning
and
by
the
city
council.
We
will
adhere
to
those
conditions.
E
If
I
could
clear
up
the
confusion,
so
this
this
park
that
we're
looking
at
now
is
the
public,
the
the
dog
park-
and
we
have
slides
of
it
here-
is
not
open
to
the
public.
This
is
fully
enclosed
gated
for
the
residents
of
the
apartment,
complex
and
folks
that
are
boarding
or
grooming,
their
dogs
at
the
facility
right
next
to
it.
E
This
is
just
a
rendering
that
was
that's
a
placeholder
for
a
final
project
that
you
will
review.
That
will
include
the
bench,
a
water
fountain
and
any
landscaping
that
the
aec
and
planning
commission
finally
falls
on.
D
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
other
questions
from
other
commissioners,
then
I
have
a
few.
The
glenn
do
the
trees
on
this
is
the
old
conditions.
Do
the
trees
in
the
front
meet
section,
14
requirements.
E
The
proposal
that
is
is
before
you
was
reviewed
by
the
previous
planning
commission
was
approved
and
that
that
analysis
was
done
and
completed
and
it
does
meet
the
section
14
plan.
So
there
have
been
no
changes
from
what
was
previously
approved
by
the
planning
commission
earlier.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
questions
for
the
applicant
on
the
walkways
and
even
though
the
dog
park
is
in
front
of
us,
dog
parks
are
successful
when
they
have
water
in
them
and
benches.
A
Do
you
have
plans
for
dog
water,
fountains
and
benches
in
your
dog
park?
Yes,
and
do
you
have
that
and
dog
stations
throughout
the
walking
portion
of
the
property.
H
No,
we
have.
I
remember
you
raising
this
last
time,
madam
chair,
and
I
don't
believe
that
we've
shown
that,
but
we
certainly
could
do
that.
You're
you're,
asking
on
the
west
and
north
sides
where
people
walk
will
be
walking
their
dogs
yeah.
That
would
that
would
be
something
we
would
be
happy
to
include
you'll
find.
A
So
yeah
you'll
find
people
clean
up
when
stations
and
they
don't
when
you
don't
right
right,
exactly
exactly.
Okay,
the
material
walking
out
walking
out
to
the
swimming
pool.
What
is
the
material
on
the
ground.
I
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sure
those
are
its
paved
area.
The
initial
walkway
there,
yes.
A
So
what
I
would
like
to
see
is
shade
there
in
the
summertime,
paved
material
can
get
so
hot
that
it
burns
your
feet,
and
I
do
believe
you
have
to
have
some
shade
to
walk
out
through
that
area.
I'm
assuming
those
those
look
like
palm
trees.
I
don't
know
what
your
trees
are
or
whether
they're
shade
trees.
I
Those
are
those
are
actually
shown
as
palms
right
now,
but
paul
lauren.
We
could
put
shade
trees
here.
Do
you
think
yeah
yeah?
We
could.
We
could
change
that
out.
A
Okay
and
then,
actually,
I
think
this
building
looks
nicer.
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
a
comment,
but
I
think
it
looks
better
as
an
apartment
building
than
it
did
as
condos
because
of
the
treatment
of
the
first
floor.
A
Thank
you,
and
so
the
concierge,
if
you
do
not
want
a
valet,
are
you
intending
to
have
a
concierge
from
somewhere
like
seven
in
the
morning,
until
nine
or
ten
at
night
to
help
people
with
groceries
and
parking.
A
A
H
We
also
think
that
people
will
be
bringing
in
groceries
less,
because
meals
will
be
included
to
a
certain
extent.
We
discussed
that
in
the
past
that
there'll
be
less
grocery
carrying
possibly.
A
In
this
city,
people
seem
to
enjoy
cooking
so,
but
we,
I
do,
think
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
the
hours
on
that
and.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
that's
that's
it
for
my
questions,
anyone
else
there
being
no
other
questions.
The
matter
is
before
the
commission,
as
we
get
to
decisions
on
this,
I
may
call
you
up
at
the
prior
to
a
vote
on
a
motion.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
your
presentation.
Thank.
H
A
H
A
E
E
Yes,
when
the
planning
commission
originally
approved
the
condition,
this
was
not
adopted,
set
in
stone,
let's
say,
and
you
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
adequate
solar
power
for
the
building,
and
that
was
the
number
that
the
planet
mission
came
upon.
A
That's
that's
what
I'm
assuming
so
we're
being
asked
to
change
this
to
me.
What
is
now
the
green
building
code?
Just
in
any
motion,
that's
made
we're
going
to
have
to
include
this
I'd
like
just
a
show
of
hands
from
people
that
you're
fine
with
the
change
and
then
I'll.
Have
you
a
show
of
hands
if
you're
not
fine
with
the
change?
A
Commissioner
hirschmann,
I
can't
see
your
hand
you're,
not
fine
with
the
change
you
are
so
that
all
of
us
indicate
that
we're
fine
with
that
so
glenn
and
flynn.
Any
motion
that's
made
will
include
that
the
and
glenn
can.
Can
you
help
me
with
exactly
what
we
have?
We
have
to
approve
a
minor
amendment
to
the
revision
and
a
revision
to
the
candidate.
E
A
Okay,
so
I'm
assuming
it's
a
one
lot
track
map
just
to
ask:
are
people
going
to
have
problems
with
the
conversion
just
is?
Can
I
get
a
general
sense
from
people
as
to
whether
you're
comfortable
with
approving
the
track
map,
changes
and
just
a
show
of
hands.
A
Okay,
so
so
we're
there.
So
now
we're
looking
at
the
amendment
to
the
planned
development
district
and
if
there
are
any
conditions
people
wanted
to
and
that
matters
before
the
commission,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
and
I'm
going
to
add
conditions
as
people
mention
them.
A
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
second
commissioner's
song.
G
It's
not
a
second,
it's
it's
something
that
I
want
to
share
that
I'm
I
I'm
having
a
very
hard
time
with
the
finding
of
harmony
relations
with
adjacent
development,
about
having
the
parking
on
tackle
it.
I
think
there's
been
a
great
effort
of
trying
to
make
the
project
better,
but
I
am,
I
am
can't
seem
to
find
that
on
tap
weights
on
one
of
our
boulevards
that
we're
going
to
have
this
seal
parking
along
path
with.
A
All
right
for
the
applicants,
this
is
not
before
you
right
now.
Thank
you.
It's
before
the
commission,
so
we've
we
generally
two
of
the
items
we
might
would
be
able
to
approve,
but
the
specific
change
is
before
us.
So,
commissioner,
song
has
indicated
that.
A
E
Page
five,
so
the
the
analysis
is
of
the
amendment
to
applied
development
district.
There
are
no
specific
findings.
However,
there
are
the
specific
requirements
that
the
planning
commission
would
need
to
make
on
which
has
to
do
with.
Is
it
generally
consistent
with
the
originally
approved
project?
E
Do
the
development
standards
of
the
proposed
amendment?
Are
they
substantially,
in
conformance
with
the
approved
project
and
are
the
conversion
of
the
condominiums
advances
the
goals
of
the
city.
G
F
G
The
first
application
is
that
better,
okay,
the
first
application
had
on
tackle
the
setback
from
packwood,
had
a
combination
of
about
a
third,
a
parking
and
driveway,
and
then
the
rest
was
this
walkway
and
landscape
buffer
to
balance
sort
of
the
story
between
what
happens
on
top
which
to
all
the
way
to
the
building.
G
G
So,
therefore,
the
the
balance
on
how
the
project
is
or
the
building
is
designed
facing
pathways
is
where
I
find
that
it's
not
a
design
which
it's
in
conformance
to
what
how
other
projects
have
been
done
on
a
long
talk
with
with
also
section.
A
F
Well,
I
I'd
like
to
just
discuss
with
commissioner
song
that
statement.
I
don't
disagree
with
it.
I'm
not
quite
there
yet,
though,
and
I
just
want
to
kind
of
drill
down
on
that.
If
that's
okay,
do
you
think
that
I
guess
what's
mitigating
it
for
me,
and
I
just
want
to
know
if
you
think
it's
also
a
mitigating
factor
is
as
you're
driving
down,
chocolates
or
even
walking
down
chocolates.
F
It's
just,
it
seems
like
it's
gonna
be
out
of
your
your
range,
your
sight,
and
if
that's
not
the
case,
I
kind
of
want
to
understand
that
because
that's,
I
agree
that
it's
a
sea
of
parking
on
top
of,
and
that's
not
a
good
thing,
but
then
I'm
thinking
this
mitigation
of
really
not
being
able
to
see
it
unless
you're
passing
by
that
front,
driveway
next
to
the
building
next
to
the
apartment,
building
itself
and
you
could
peek
in
there.
F
G
Commissioner
hirschman
those
are
points
of
evaluation
that
I
have
made
when
you're
driving
east
or
when
you're
driving
west.
The
tendency
when
we
look
at
these
exhibits
are
two-dimensional
as
if
we're
standing
dead
center
in
front
of
the
building,
but
when
you're
driving
west
and
you
you're,
going
through
hermosa.
You
will
have
this
view
corridor.
F
G
B
G
K
A
A
I
would
have
included
additional
landscaping
or
shade
trees,
leading
to
the
pool
I'd
like
to
see
when
this
comes
back
to
us
benches,
seating
areas
and
rest
areas
and
and
the
park
I
agree
with
commissioner
lewin,
but
since
it's
in
the
conditions
the
park
done
to
the
original
conditions
of
approval
and
I'd
like
to
see
very
minor
minor
point
dog
stations
and
drinking
fountains
in
the
walking
areas
that
I
haven't,
I
don't
think
I've
not
inclined
to
reduce
the
parking,
because
some
of
the
units
are
singles
and
their
the
parking
requirement
is
.75.
A
But
this
this
project
may
be
parked.
There
may
be
a
car
or
two
cars
per
per
unit.
Given
the
rents
and
the
the
fact
that
it's
active
living.
So
I
would
keep
the
additional
parking
in
place.
I
would
require
that
if
it's,
if
we
don't
have
a
valet
either
we
have
a
valet
for
parking
or
we
have
a
concierge
on
duty.
That's
there
from
seven
in
the
morning
till
nine
in
the
evening,
and
I
would
require
that
there
be
live-ins
a
at
least
one
live-in
manager.
A
So
those
would
be
the
conditions
that
I
would
impose
on
this.
I
don't
know
if
that
you
have
additional
conditions,
commissioner,.
B
A
The
comment
I
would
make
on
my
motion
is
that
if
this
was
coming
to
us
as
a
new
site
plan
and
not
a
modification,
I
would
rather
see
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
eastern
wing
of
the
building.
I
think
that
would
be
a
much
better
site
plan.
A
D
Lewin,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
I
tend
to
agree
with
you.
I
I
think
that,
and
in
the
last
meeting
I
did
in
fact
suggest
looking
at
putting
the
parking
in
one
of
the
other,
quadrants
or
thirds
of
the
building
the
applicant
is
far
along,
and
I
do
think
that
the
substantial
tree
coverage
the
dog
park,
the
retail.
D
I
think
it
will
do
a
lot
of
screening.
I
I
think
commissioner
song
is
not
wrong,
but
at
this
point
this
project
is
so
far
along
that
I
I
would
be
in
support
of
the
motion
as
it
was
made,
because
I
think
it's
a
quality
project
overall
and
there
are
certainly
other
places
on
top
which
such
as
the
renaissance
hotel,
which
have
far
more
asphalt
and
parking
in
front
of
it,
and-
and
this
doesn't
in
my
mind,
really
approach
that
there
is
a
lot
of
shading
and
screening.
D
I
think
I
wish
I
would
have
heard
more
about
commissioner
song's
remedies
before
we
got
to
this
point,
but
I
want
to
signal
that
I
would
be
in
support
of
the
motion
that
you've
made
with
the
amendment
by.
B
Commissioner
ervin
I
I
would
also
like
to
maybe
say:
if,
if
the
commission
took
a
look
at
the
aerial
site,
you
can
you
can
see
from
the
aerials
the
living
aerial
site,
you
can
kind
of
see
that
it
blocks
it
a
little
bit.
I
mean.
B
I
think
there's
some
trees
that
that
are
going
to
be
there
as
well
that
they
will
be
able
to
block
if
you're
coming
from
the
airport
on
top
with,
where
you
won't
be
able
to
see
that
much
inside.
B
If
you
are
coming
from
the
other
area,
I
can
see
how
that
opening
would
be
able
to
see.
But
if
you
know
we're
talking
about
the
corridor
the
entry
into
talk
with,
I
I
don't
think
it
would.
It
would
look
that
bad.
It's
we
got
quite
a
bit
of
you
know
buildings
and
landscaping
there.
I
just.
B
I
don't
think
it's
that
much
of
you
know.
I
would
agree
again
that
you
know
pretty
far
into
the
project
that
that
would
make
that
much
of
a
difference,
and
you
know
I
wouldn't
want
to
hold
that
process
up
for
that.
A
Can
we
call
the
question?
Oh
commissioner,
I'm
sorry.
G
Yeah
the
the
comment
about
the
asc
may
comments
the
applicant
made
revisions,
and
those
are
the
revisions
that
we're
seeing
today
and
I
would
like
to
make
the.
I
would
like
to
make
the
comments
about
the
design
of
the
ends
of
the
buildings,
about
considering
having
the
the
short
wind
that
the
wing
that's
northwest,
as
well
as
northeast.
G
And
I
I
fully
respect
the
comments
of
the
other
commissioners.
Is
the
idea
of
this
very
luxurious
and
expensive
rental
project
and
having
four
or
five
rows
of
cars
before
you
see
this
amazing
building
in
composition
of
both
in
city
planning?
It's
it's!
If
not
what
I
consider
to
be
a
harmonious
project
now.
G
Having
said
that,
commissioner
lewin
is
perfectly
right
about
myself
not
offering
solutions,
but
I
was
really
hoping
that,
with
the
commentary
that
was
received
before
that,
the
applicant
could
have
tried
different
solutions
and,
at
the
end
of
my
comments,.
A
So,
are
you
offering,
can
you
be
clear,
you're
offering
some
amendments
to
the
motion
and
articulate
exactly
what
they
are.
G
G
So
right
now,
I
believe
the
proposal
is
that
the
three
three
lanes
of
cars
are
being
cardboard.
G
G
A
A
A
K
Okay,
so
condition
number
one
is
relative
to
the
solar
requirements
that
they
conform
to
current
adopted
green
building
code
requirements.
Number
two:
you
are
recommending
approval
of
the
track
map,
modifications,
no
modifications.
There
number
three.
On
the
amendment
to
the
approved
plan
development
district
number
one.
You
accept
all
of
the
aac
recommendations,
number
two
that
additional
shade
trees
be
provided
from
the
building
to
the
pool
area,
number
three
benches:
seating
area,
dog
stations
and
drinking
fountains
shall
be
provided
in
the
walking
areas
on
the
site.
K
Number
four:
the
plaza
at
the
south
east
corner
of
the
property
shall
be
designed
to
the
original
conditions
of
approval,
which
includes
bench,
drinking
fountain,
shade,
trees,
number
five
in
lieu
of
valet.
The
applicant
shall
provide
a
concierge
on
site
from
7,
am
to
9
pm
number
6
that
there
be
a
live-in
manager,
number
7
relative
to
the
trees
in
the
parking
lot
that
they
be
clustered
in
the
islands
rather
than
spaced
every
five
spaces,
as
they
are
currently
shown
number
eight
on
the
ends
of
the
buildings.
K
They
shall
be
consistent
with
the
design
shown
on
the
chocolates
frontage
number,
nine
that
on
the
final
pd
pd
package,
the
stone
veneer
be
precisely
shown
and
depicted
on
the
elevation,
drawings
and
a
physical
sample
be
provided
and
then
number
10
on
the
quarten
panels.
On
the
ends
of
the
building.
There
shall
be
a
six
inch
pop
out
between
the
core
10
panel
and
the
stucco.
So
those
are
the
conditions,
as
we
have
them
listed.
H
Yes,
I
think
I
think
we
do
as
it
relates
to
the
ends
of
the
buildings.
All
looking
the
same,
I
don't
think
that
that's
something
that
we
can
do
I'll
ask
jerry,
but
the
layouts
of
the
units
are
different
and
so
where
the
windows
are
placed,
the
windows
are
placed.
If
we
start
laying
out
the
re
we
having
to
lay
out
the
units,
that's
a
substantial
amount
of
architectural
and
design
work
that
we're
gonna
have
to
do
to
make
that
happen.
H
I
don't
even
know
if
it's
possible
to
happen
on
the
north
end,
the
the
the
concern
about
the
consistency,
the
the
wing
is
not
the
same,
because
there's
no
elevator
correct
me
jerry.
Is
there
an
elevator
on
that
end?.
I
H
Oh,
that's
that
consistency
of
making
the
wings
look
the
same,
I'm
not
sure
what
it
achieves,
but
it's
it's
going
to
add
substantial
dollars
to
our
design
and
delay
the
project
even
further
to
achieve
I'm
not
sure
what.
Secondly,
I
just
checked
with
somebody
who
is
a
long-time
manager
of
facilities
in
similar
to
this
of
this
kind
of
project
senior
active
living
facilities.
None
of
them
have
a
live-in
manager
and
I
don't
think
we
would
commit
to
do
that.
H
B
A
H
A
So
I'm
perfectly
happy
to
change
the
lid
and
conditioner
condition
to
on
call
so
so
an
on-call
system
for
building
problems
24
hours
a
day.
That's.
A
Can
you
just
do
you
want
to
talk
about
the
building
ends?
Is
that.
A
Yeah
just
then,
let's
go
to
the
building
and
first
commissioner's
song
if
they
do
a
treatment,
that's
as
consistent
as
possible,
without
changing
the
design
of
the
units.
Does
that
work
for
you?
Yes,.
I
Yes,
but
but
the
the
north
one
does
not
go
to
the
roof.
That's
why
the
height
difference.
G
I
Yeah
they're
they're
they're
again
I
we're
looking
at
the
site
and
we're
looking
at
the
exposure
of
all
elevations
and
the
north
elevation.
I
don't
necessarily
agree
we'll
have
the
impact
that
has
been
stated
before,
because
the
property
behind
us
is
vacant
and
it
will
get
developed
and
it
won't
be
the
front
of
a
building
it'll
be
the
back
of
a
building
or
a
side
of
a
building
and
that
the
north
elevation
probably
will
be
the
most
the
least
visible
of
all
the
elevations,
and
I
would
hate
to
spend
money
more
money.
I
We
put
the
stone
on
and
we
felt
that
was
already
pushing
the
envelope
on
that
tower
and
on
the
tockwood
side,
which
is
the
most
visible
elevation
of
those
towers
that
we
added
the
window
on
that
side,
because
that
happened
to
be
the
widest
tower,
because
the
configuration
of
the
stairs
and
elevator
and
trash
room,
and
so
that's
why
we
added
that
slip
window
and
it
it
was
much
more
consistent
with
the
original
design,
where
the
one
on
hermosa
again
has
actually
a
notch
in
it.
It's
not
the
same
tower.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
I
changed
the
one
item,
commissioner
song,
do
you
want
to
make
a
change
in
that
motion
or
not.
G
I
accept
the
motion
of
of
creating
our
arctic
articulation
or
trim
that
would
reduce
the
amount
of
stone
veneer.
They
don't
have
to
put
windows,
but
they
could
look
at
it
from
a
bit
more
detail
or
a
bit
more.
A
Retract
it
okay,
christian
or
hershbun.
F
I'd
I'd
like
to
propose
a
condition
to
the
to
the
motion
to
require,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
there
or
not,
but
I
didn't
see
it
toilet
facilities
adjacent
to
the
pool
area.
I
think
we
had
that
originally
and
I
don't
see
it
in
the
revised
but
I'd
like
to
make
it
a
requirement.
H
Can
I
speak
to
that?
Oh
everybody
froze.
A
H
Okay,
the
we've
had
substantial
discussions
about
toilet
facilities
at
the
pool
and
we
have
set
things
in
the
building
so
that
the
toilet
facilities
in
the
building
are
in
accordance
with
riverside
county
health.
H
They
are
within
the
300
feet
of
the
pool
and
we
believe
that
our
residents
would
be
much
happier
going
to
the
bathroom
in
within
the
building
bathrooms
and
having
a
bathroom
out
by
the
pool.
So
we
have
not
planned
for
bathrooms
right
at
the
pool,
but
within
the
facility.
The
main
bathrooms
within
the
facility
and.
B
F
G
I
believe,
when
it
comes
to
apartment
housing,
that
you
are
required
to
have
a
public
restroom
this
before
this
unit
is
beyond
so
many
feet
and
it's
along
the
principle
of
what
you
have
been
saying
that
it's
nice
to
have
a
public
restroom
within
so
many
seats.
So,
therefore,
if
we
have
the
requirement
that
the
project
should
meet
the
riverside
county
health
requirement,
I
believe
that
will
cover
your
concern.
F
F
I
don't
know
I
if
I'm
making
that
to
the
people
that
are
making
the
motion.
If
you
accept
it,
fine,
if
you
don't
you
don't.
B
You
know
I
mean
I
personally
like
having
a
restroom
nearby
when
I'm
out
by
the
pool
I
don't
like
going
inside
a
building.
They
have
to
go
to
the
restroom
when
you're
wet
or
you
know
whatever,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
enough
about
the
details
of
what
is
typical
or
appropriate
for
apartment
buildings.
B
A
Condition
so
the
motion
doesn't
have
that
condition.
A
Do
we
still
have
a
condition
that
the
the
ends
be
as
consistent
that
at
least
the
two
be
as
consistent
as
possible?
No,
so
that's
withdrawn
so
emotions
before
us.
Unless
anybody
has
anything
else
to
add.
B
Yes,
commissioner,
irvin.
F
A
H
A
2B
anza
ps
llc,
requesting
a
one-year
extension
of
time
for
a
major
architectural
application
to
construct
a
two-story,
10
000
504
square
foot,
industrial
warehouse
building
located
at
3573
north
anzar
road,
a
staff
report.
Please.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
if
I
could
most
of
the
planning
commission
was
not
part
of
the
was
on
the
commission
back
in
2018
when
this
was
approved,
so
I'll
go
over
some
of
the
the
background
information,
so
we
all
have
a
place
to
start
from,
so
this
project
was
originally
approved
back
in
february
of
28,
I'm
sorry
in
september
of
2018
and
to
orient
as
to
where
we
are
looking
at
the
the
the
project
is
at
the
industrial
park
area
that
is
west
of
indian
canyon,
drive
and
north
of
san
rafael.
E
If
you
remember
last
meeting
the
planning
commission
reviewed
a
cell
tower,
and
that
was
at
this
lot.
Well,
we
are
now
looking
at
the
lot
that
is
in
the
red
rectangle
off
of
radio
road.
So
the
lot
is
approximately
fifteen
thousand
square
feet
and
what
they're
proposing
to
build
is
a
two-story
warehouse?
Ten
thousand
five
hundred
four
square
feet
total.
E
So
the
planning
commission
approved
a
major
architectural
back
in
2018
to
construct
the
square
foot
warehouse.
The
planning
commission
also
approved
a
conditional
use
permit
to
allow
cannabis
cultivation
soon.
After
the
planning
commission
approved
the
project,
it
was
called
up
to
council
for
review.
E
The
city
council
held
two
meetings
on
december
5th
and
19th
of
2018,
and
there
was
no
action
taken
at
that
time
soon
after
a
moratorium
was
put
in
place
to
prevent
cultivation
within
the
center
parts
of
the
city,
the
zoning
code
was
amended
relative
to
cultivation
to
allow
it
only
on
the
north
north
of
the
I-10
in
the
green
zone,
and
then
the
applicant
applied
for
a
building
permit
on
july
18th
of
2019
to
construct
the
10
000
square
foot
warehouse.
E
So
that
is
the
the
background
for
the
project
and
going
through
some
slides.
The
the
planning
commission
approved
this
design
of
a
two-story
building
with
parking
along
the
street
radio
road
and
on
the
south
portion
of
the
lot.
E
The
slide
that's
before
you
today
is
for
a
to
have
a
floor
plan
that
includes
a
cannabis,
lounge
and
dispensary
and
distribution
on
the
second
floor,
there's
floor
plans
that
show
how
the
dispensary
and
and
the
lounge
will
be
located
to
refresh
the
planning
commission's
memory
of
how
these
cannabis
applications
are
approved.
The
m1
zone
allows
a
dispensary
in
a
lounge
and
distribution
as
a
buy
right
use,
so
there's
no
further
action
that
was
needed
by
the
planning
commission
to
approve
the
dispensary
or
the
lounge.
E
So
that
is
the
background
information
for
the
project.
So
the
planning
commission
would
need
to
approve
a
one-year
time
extension
to
construct
the
two-story
building
in
order
for
the
project
to
move
forward
in
your
packet.
There
are
there's
a
letter
from
the
applicant
who
describes
what
has
been
done
over
the
past
two
years
in
order
to
advance
the
project,
so
the
applicant
states
that
they've
spent
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
doing
design,
work
and
other
activities
in
order
to
advance
the
project.
E
So
in
your
staff
report
there
are
conditions
of
approval
that
the
planning
commission
would
need
to
make
in
order
to
make
the
findings.
E
E
They've
also
done
street
improvement
plans,
a
precise
grading
plan,
a
double
wqmp,
which
is
a
wall,
water
quality
management
plan
and
other
itemized
items
that
are
shown
in
their
packet.
They're
saying
that
obstacles
have
have
prevented
the
project
from
moving
forward
having
to
do
with
property
ownership.
E
E
So
they
have
made
some
efforts
to
advance
the
project
and
a
building
permit
is
in
was
submitted,
however,
that
permit
has
expired
and
they
would
need
to
renew
the
a
building
permit
application.
E
G
E
So
what
happened?
So?
What
happened
was
is
that
the
the
property
owner
who
was
building
the
warehouse
had
an
operator
who
obtained
the
cannabis
cultivation
license
that
that
operator,
right
after
the
planning
commission
approved
the
cup
and
the
major
architectural
withdrew
that
license.
So
they
were
no
longer
in
the
picture.
So
the
applicant
had
approval
to
build
the
warehouse,
but
didn't
have
a
cannabis
cultivation
operator
and
the
moratorium
went
into
place
and
the
city
would
not
accept
any
new
applications
to
do
cannabis
cultivation.
So
he
was
stuck
in
the
middle.
Basically.
A
Other
questions
gwen,
do
I
understand,
under
the
new
ordinance
that
their
distance
requirements
what's
the
saturation
of
cannabis
in
this
area
and
are
there
distance
issues.
E
A
And
then
the
other
question
before
responding
to
that
the
materials
said
that
their
reason
for
for
not
following
through
was
that
their
architect
was
sick.
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
E
Right
if
you
were,
while
some
commission
members
were
present
at
that
time
in
2018
there,
there
was
an
a
project
architect
who
who
had
some
health
issues
and
in
order
to
get
the
permits
submitted,
they
needed
the
architect
to
do
construction
documents
and
so
forth,
and
he
was
unable
to
do
that.
So
once
again,
that
may
be
a
question
of
the
applicant.
A
B
A
Could
you
repeat
the
question,
it's
a
question
of
the
saturation
district
with
cannabis.
The
distance
requirement
only.
A
E
D
E
B
B
Yes,
so
so
this
project
will
have
cultivation
as
well
as
a
dispensary
or.
E
B
And
so
this
in
three
parts,
then
you
see
some
one
dispensary
over
there
and
for
the
cultivation.
How
many
cultivations
are
in
that
location.
E
Okay,
well
so
there's
no
cultivation
at
this
at
this
facility
next
door
is
king's
garden,
has
cultivation
at
367,
radio,
road
and
there's
other
cultivation
across
the
street
at
del
sol.
L
B
Yeah,
absolutely
there
is
through
the
city
of
palm
springs
and
a
new
revised
ordinance.
There
are
two
pathways
for
compliance.
One
pathway
is
for
cultivation
and
manufacturing,
which
is
considered
high
impact,
odor
activity
and
the
secondary
pathways
for
lounges
dispensaries
and
distribution,
which
are
considered
low
to
moderate
impact.
Odor
activity
in
general.
The
licensing
delivered
from
mate
for
packaging
or
for
distribution
and
dispensaries
requires
the
product
to
be
sealed
before
it
shows
up
on
site.
So
you
are
not
seeing
any
processing
you're,
not
seeing
any.
B
Seeing
no
cultivation,
it
is
reasonable
to
assume
there
would
be
a
significantly
lower
odor
impact
for
a
distribution
and
our
distribution
and
dispensary
and
lounge
facility
versus.
B
A
F
So
it
sounds
like
what
they're
kind
of
hanging
their
hat
on
is
the
fact
that
the
cultivation
went
away.
We
we're
no
palm
springs,
no
longer
allowing
cultivation
and
therefore
the
deal
with
the
previous
operator
fell
through,
and
then
they
were
looking
for
an
operator
that
would
only
would
would
be
okay
with
only
having
distribution,
dispensary
and
lounge,
and
they
found
one
with
cam
and
that's
allowed
them
to
proceed
with
with
the
project.
So
my
question
is:
when
did
they
make
the
deal
with
skycam.
E
And
the
applicant
may
be
able
to
tell
you
exactly
when
they
they
started
their
negotiations
with
the
property
owner,
but
the
regulatory
permit
was
issued
july
15th
of
2020..
So
one
can
assume
that
they
were
spending
some
time
preparing
to
submit
the
application.
G
B
Application
for
skycam
was
received
in
december
of
2019.,
so
december
30th
2019.
We
received
the
application,
they
started,
making
inquiries.
F
F
Okay
and
as
far
as
staff
going
back
to
glenn
since
july
of
this
year,
what
what
have
they
done
to
put
further.
E
So
the
main
activity
was
done
soon
after
the
planning.
Commission
first
approved
the
project,
so
the
building
permit
application
came
in
in
july
of
2019
so
that
there
were
several
correction
notices
and
then
the
there
was
no
more
activity
on
the
the
building
permit
side.
So
it's
been
no
action
or
movement
since
they
that
building
permit
expired.
B
E
A
building
permit
is
good
for
six
months
after
it's
approved
or
it's
in
process,
so
there
were
several
corrections,
so
it
was
july
18th
of
2019
that
they
applied
for
the
building.
Permit.
You
know
six
months
after
that,
so
early
2020
is
when
the
activity
ended,
which
would
have
been
around
the
time
that
they
went
into
agreement
with
skycam.
E
D
D
And
that's
incorrect.
D
A
Are
there
any
other
questions,
commissioner?
Irvin.
B
So
I
guess
I
would
ask
what
is
the
normal
process
that
it
would
take
to
get
it
done
it?
It
seems
like
it's
been
sitting
for
since
july,
and
then
they
found
someone
who
was
willing
in
2019.
How
long
is
the
normal
process
that
it
that
it
takes
to
get
that
done.
E
B
So
would
you
say
that
they
are
right
on
schedule
with
the
timeline
and
the
time
frame
that
they've
put
in
place.
A
Can
we
open
the
public
hearing?
The
applicant
has
10
minutes
to
make
a
presentation
speaking
to
the
reasons
for
the
extension.
J
J
Yes,
okay,
so
my
name
is
suzina
chakma
and
I
I've
been
working
on
this
project
together
with
the
property
owner
and
we're
working
towards
completing
this
project.
J
So
we're
asking
we're
here
today
to
ask
for
a
time
extension
for
the
major
architectural
approval
to
build
the
already
approved
building
the
warehouse.
We
are
not
asking
for
a
time
extension
of
the
conditional
use
permit
as
the
approved
users,
dispensary,
distribution
and
lounge
does
not
require
conditional
use
permit.
J
J
So
why
we're
in
need
of
this
time
extension?
It's
pretty
much
a
lot
of
circumstances
that
that
that
was
beyond
our
control
to
to
move
forward
and
complete
this
project
with
the
conditions
of
approval.
First
of
all,
kovet,
when
covet
hit
in
march,
everything
shut
down.
J
It
was
difficult
for
us
to
have
engineers
and
architects,
go
to
the
property
and
look
at
it
and
start
working
so
covet
delay
this
project
pretty
much
a
lot,
and
during
that
time
we
were
still
waiting
for
the
the
regulatory
permit
to
be
approved.
J
So
we
were
working
on
that
and
when
covet
hits
and
in
on
top
of
that,
our
architect
that
was
connected
to
this
project
from
the
start
2018,
even
before
that
he
got
very
sick
and
was
he
was
not
able
to
help
us
meet
the
deficiencies
for
during
a
couple
of
months.
Even
even
today,
it's
been
hard
to
reach
out
to
him
and
obtain
the
already
approved,
renderings
and
implants.
J
So
that
delayed
the
project,
a
lot
as
well,
one
more
the
original
owners
of
the
property
they
they
face,
some
some
financial
issues
in
up
keeping
the
property,
doing
the
moratorium
and
then,
during
the
the
limbo
time
when,
when
the,
when
the
more
time
was
lifted,
the
new
zoning
regulations
prohibited
a
cannabis
called
cultivation
in
that
zone
and
the
property
is
located
in
an
m1
zone
where
you
cannot
cultivate
cannabis
anymore.
J
So
during
that
time
they
faced
financial
issues
and
that's
when
the
new
development
group
came
in
to
take
over
the
property
pretty
much
and
the
project
and
the
new
development
group.
That's
both
anza
ps,
the
property
owner
and
the
psllc,
the
property
owner
and
skycam
llc,
and
the
ps
is
obviously
the
property
owner
and
skycam
will
be
the
cannabis
business
operator.
J
So
this
new
development
group
has
is
better
suited
financially
to
actually
complete
this
project
and-
and
we
have
extensive,
extensive
experience
in
cannabis
project
and
we've
completed
many
cannabis
projects.
Prior
to
this,
however,
I
would
like
to
and
note
that
the
original
owner
is
staying
on
and
assisting
us
to
meet
the
conditions
of
approval
and
constructing
the
building.
So
he
is
staying
on
to
assist
us
and
you
know
get
this
project
over
the
finish
line.
J
So
now
that
we
have
overcome
all
of
those
hurdles
and
we
feel
confident
that
we
will
be
able
to
finish
this
project
within
the
the
time
extension,
which
will
be
another
10
months
until
october,
20
21,
if
approved,
we
have
also
hired
new
engineers
and
hired
a
new
design
group
to
complete
all
outstanding.
J
All
outstanding
deficiencies
and
to
me
all
outstanding
conditions
of
approval
and
this
new
design
group
that
we've
hired
they
have
extensive,
extensive
experience
in
cannabis
projects
and
have
designed
a
cannabis
project
specifically
for
three
years
since
the
legal,
the
legalization
of
cannabis
in
california,
and
has
successfully
completed
around
30
cannabis
projects
and
we
and
has
worked
with
us
on
about
10
projects,
cannabis
projects.
So
we
we
trust
in
their
work.
We
trust
that
they
will
help
us
finish
this
project
within
the
extension.
M
If
I
could,
I
want
to
introduce
myself,
I'm
david
welch,
I'm
the
applicant,
also
the
person
who
the
regulatory
permit
was
issued
to
I'm
an
attorney.
I've
been
practicing
for
over
14
years,
14
it
drags
on,
but
my
expertise
has
been
in
cannabis.
So
I'll
give
you
some
background
on
the
timing,
so
we
we
can
have
the
facts
out
there.
M
I
was
originally
brought
on
and
my
firm
was
really
brought
on
to
help
bring
this
project
to
fruition
and
apply
for
this
permit
in
december
with
the
original
owners,
the
original
owners
ran
into
financial
trouble
in
2019
and
into
2020,
so
I
stepped
in
to
take
over
the
project
and
invest
in
the
project,
and
eventually
the
deal
was
that
if
we
were
to
get
the
regulatory
permit,
which
we
did
in
july-
that
I
would
then
come
in
and
buy
the
property
and
then
take
over
the
project
and
build
the
building.
M
I
brought
in
a
long
time
partner
of
mine
who's
a
show
levy
from
santa
monica,
not
that
that
means
anything.
But
together,
we've
developed
over
a
million
square
feet
of
cannabis
space
in
the
state
of
california,
and
that
is
in
either
in
southern
california,
san
francisco
and
down
to
orange
county.
This
project
is
our
current
project.
We
have
other
projects
that
are
cannabis
cultivation
in
santa
barbara,
but
we
think
this
project
is
a
great
project
that
we
can
add.
M
A
lot
to
the
delays
in
this
project
were
really
based
upon
us,
finalizing
our
deal
with
the
previous
owners
and
making
sure
that
we
were
going
to
obtain
our
regulatory
permit.
Once
we
retained
our
regulatory
permit,
we
had
to
find
a
new
architect.
We
brought
on
miss
don
adams
who's
here
and
can
speak
to
it.
J
Right
so,
just
like
david
said,
we
we
came
in
pretty
late
to
the
project
and
there
was
a
question
about
what
we
have
been
doing
since
july.
Since
we
got
the
regulatory
regulatory
permit
approved,
we
have
been
obtaining
the
previous
drawings,
renderings
and
plans.
From
from
the
previous
engineer,
the
architect
and,
like
I
said
before
it
was,
it
has
been
tough
to
get
in
contact
with
in
either
of
those.
J
So
once
from
july,
up
until
now,
we
actually
been
working
on
hiring
good
people,
trustworthy
people
that
will
help
us
finish
this
project,
and
we
have
all
the
confidence
in
the
world
that
we
will
be
able
to
do
so
in
the
upcoming
months.
J
If
I'm
gonna
move
forward,
I
know
that
the
palm
springs
municipal
court
for
some
requirements
for
a
time
accession,
and
I
would
just
quick-
I
would
just
like
to
quickly
talk
about
those
requirements
and
how
we
meet
those
requirements.
So,
first
of
all,
the
maj
is
consistent
with
the
general
plan.
The
property
is
located
in
a
mixed
used.
J
Land
use
designation,
which
you
you
may
know,
includes
professional
offices
and
service
businesses
and
the
proposed
building
is
probably
properly
zoned
for
the
proposed
users
and
the
intended
goals
of
the
the
land
use
designation
is
still
valid,
so
we're
still
very
much
consistent
with
the
general
plan
of
the
of
the
location.
J
The
projects,
layout
design
and
overall
scope
has
not
been
changed
since
the
findings
in
the
original
maj
application,
so
they
still
remain
valid
and
appropriate.
We
have
not
changed
much
to
in
this
project.
The
the
main
change
is
that
we
removed
cultivation
from
the
from
the
proposed
use,
which
is
actually
which
actually
make
the
project
more
sensible
in
this
area.
On
this
property,
just
like
I
said
there
has
been
no
significant
changes
to
the
pro
to
the
project.
J
J
It
is
no
longer
needed
for
our
project
as
cultivation
is
completely
removed
and
it's
not
allowed
in
in
the
m1
zoning,
and
on
top
of
that
there
has
been
no
new
information
com
concerning
environmental
effects
that
will
make
this
project
less
appropriate.
J
For
for
the
location,
we
have
made
sure
to.
C
Timer
is
up
if
the
commission
would
like
to
let
the
athlete
continue
beyond
their
10
minutes.
That
is
up
to
the
commission.
A
J
A
J
I'll
be
quick,
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
maintained
the
property,
even
though
not
much
has
been
going
on.
We
have
no
active
code
enforcement
cases
against
the
property.
The
property
is
well
maintained.
It's
clean,
there's,
no
trash,
we
have
put
up
a
fence
around
the
property
and
we'll
make
sure
we'll
maintain
the
fence
as
long
as
needed.
J
We
have
submitted
timely,
submitted
drawings,
grading
plans,
street
improvement
plan
and
water
quality
plants,
and
the
all
of
these
plants
are
now
in
a
deficiency
state,
and
that's
why
we
have
hired
new
professionals
to
help
us
meet
those
deficiencies
and
complete
those
plans
and,
like
glenn
said
before,
we
have
invested
around
100
000
on
this
project
already,
and
that
does
not
include
the
new
professionals
we
have
higher.
The
engineer
we
have
hired
is
better
suited.
He's
well
known,
he
has
been
working
in
palm
springs
for
a
long
time.
J
He
was
already
up
at
the
property
last
week
to
start
working
so
yeah.
I
feel
very
confident
that
we
will
be
able
to
complete
this
project.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
You,
madam
chair,
yes,
miss
tatma!
You
you
mentioned
that
with
this
extension,
you
will
have
about
10
months
to
complete
the
project.
Do
you
have
a
estimated
project
schedule.
J
I
think
our
architect
is
better
to
answer
that.
I
know
that
the
requested
services
we
have
requested
as
on
expedited,
it's
expedited.
So
the
engineer
is
already
working
and
and
the
architect
group,
the
design
group
has
already
started,
promotes
the
work
as
well.
L
Once
we
do
that,
then,
of
course,
the
next
phase
with
that
also
includes
all
the
materiality.
So
you
guys
can
understand
how
the
building
will
look
in
the
context
of
the
industrial
park,
and
the
engineering
will
also
follow
suit
at
that
at
that
time.
L
So,
if
you're
asking
roughly
for
a
timeline,
we
can
do
all
that
and
submit
to
the
city
within
six
weeks,
the
actual
initial
part
of
the
design,
and
if
you
guys
understand
the
elevations
and
the
the
proper
floor
plan,
we
can
submit
that
to
you
guys
within
two
weeks,
and
I
just
also
want
to
say
thank
you
for
your
time
and
consideration.
You
know.
I
know
that
and
understanding,
because
I
know
that
this
this
project
has
listening
to.
L
Now,
just
just
the
as
a
facade
just
to
make
it
a
more
harmonious
exterior
so
but
nothing
major,
it's
very
minor.
It's
just
to
make
sure
that
we
comply
with
all
states
and
city
regulations.
G
M
We've
hired
a
contractor
that
is
based
in
chino.
It's
a
contractor
that
we've
worked
with
before
on
other
projects.
We've.
I
would
tell
you
this.
I
need
to
talk
with
the
architect,
but
I
do
think
that
we
can
move
forward
on
this
project.
One
thing
we
have
to
do
is
resubmit
our
building
permit
plans
which,
as
you're
aware,
need
to
be
revised,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
we
can.
M
Our
goal
is
to
break
ground
on
this
project
as
soon
as
we
get
approval,
I
know
that
we
hope
to
finish
completion
within
nine
months.
L
Well,
once
the
official
permits
are
approved,
then
obviously
you
can
break
ground.
So
realistically
I
mean
it
is
a
brand
new
build.
So
I
would
say
a
good
six
to
seven
months,
so
the
nine-month
time
frame
that
you're
mentioning
is
definitely
a
viable
time
frame.
M
No,
no
they're
not
going
to
be
completely
redone.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
that
we
spent
or
time
that
was
spent
on
the
original
plan.
I
think
miss
adams
was
saying
that
she
will
make
some
small
revisions
to
the
plans
to
comply
with
state
laws.
M
That's
correct,
so
we
have
architect
on
board.
We
have
our
new
construction
project
manager,
new
construction
company,
and
we
will
go
with
the
plans
already
engineered
as
it
stands
today.
M
No,
commissioner,
that's
that's
not
the
case,
but
the
issue
here
is
that
the
building
this
is
a
building
that
was
already
approved.
It
was
a
steel
building,
one
of
the
few
that
was
approved
by
the
planning
commission,
and
so
we
just
had.
We
got
them
on
board
and
so
they've,
given
us
an
estimate
based
on
what
they've
seen
and
what
they've
done
in
the
past,
and
that's
why
I
gave
the
nine-month
estimate,
so
they
gave
that
to
you
the
nine
months
that
was
my
discussions.
F
A
A
A
F
E
So
the
one
year
time
extension
is
for
the
major
architectural
and
that
would
go
until
october,
9th
2021,
so
within
by
october,
9th
2021.
They
would
have
to
have
a
grading
permit
to
actually
start
digging
in
the
ground
that
would
cement
the
the
approvals
in
place.
If
that
is
not
does
not
occur
by
then
then
they'll
have
to
come
back
and
ask
for
another
time.
Extension.
F
D
Yeah,
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I
think
this
applicant
is
deserving
of
a
time
extension.
It's
a
one-year
time.
Extension
they've
clearly
encountered
a
number
of
very
unfortunate
mishaps
with
moratoriums
change
of
use,
a
sick
architect,
and
we
have
covid.
I
I
hope
that
we
can
move
this
on
as
a
matter
of
course,
and
let
them
get
a
shot
at
completing
the
project
out
there.
My
main
issue
was
whether
it
was
in
violation
of
the
moratorium
on
cultivation.
That's
clearly
been
dealt
with
so
I'll,
be
in
favor
of
supporting
this.
Thank
you.
A
G
Yes,
I
would
like
to
ask
the
question
to
glenn:
is
in
july
of
2020?
Was
there
any
correspondence
to
the
applicant
to
the
city
to
express
their
conditions
of
their
issues
or
challenges
that
they.
E
Yes,
there
has
been
discussions
with
the
previous
property
owner,
mr
gilbert,
for
the
past
two
years,
when
the
moratorium
happened
and
sort
of
the
period
when
he
didn't
have
an
operator.
There
was
long
discussions
with
him
as
to
what
he
could
do
with
the
building
if
he
built
it
as
a
warehouse
and
so
to
answer
your
question
shortly.
Yes,
there
has
been
discussions
with
them
throughout
the
past
two
years.
E
Yes,
that
is
an
option
that
they
could
resubmit
a
major
architecture
application.
This
is
similar
to
the
planning.
Commission
recently
saw
the
legacy
project,
which
was
the
assisted
living
facility.
They
that
lapsed.
They
reapplied
for
a
new
major
architectural
and
the
planning
commission
approved
it,
and
then
they
came
in
and
asked
for
a
time
extension
after
that.
So
that
would
be
a
similar
situation.
G
I
I
would
support
the
extension
we
every
every.
This
cobit
has
really
made
an
impact
and
to
also
let
the
applicant
know
that
please
verify
with
the
building
department
as
well.
There
have
been
limited
staff
in
the
processing
of
plants
have
taken
longer
than
usual,
so
these
are
the
circumstances
that
we're
facing,
and
we
hope
that
you
know
things
will
get
back
to
normal,
but
you
do
need
to
do
some
additional
research
and
understand
how
much
longer
things
are
taking
during
these
times.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
commissioner
lewin.
Yes,
commissioner,
song.
G
B
Commissioner
ervin
sorry,
no
okay,
vice
chairman,
see.
C
B
L
A
2C
is
west
hollywood,
community
housing
corporation
for
a
planned
development
district
application
to
construct
a
71
unit,
multi-family
residential
development
on
a
1.76
acre
site
located
at
the
southwest
corner
of
west
stevens
road
in
north
palm
canyon.
This
project
will
be.
I
will
need
a
motion
and
I
will
make
a
motion
to
extend
this
to
a
date
certain
which
will
be
january
13th
2021.
A
The
project
encountered
some
issues
that
need
resolution.
It
will
be
going
to
city
council
the
following
day
on
the
214th
of
january.
I
am
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
the
package
and
deal
with
the
issues
in
a
way
that
is
expedited.
I'm
going
to
appoint
a
subcommittee
to
work
with
me
on
this
project.
A
The
issues
that
we'll
be
looking
at
are
parking
access,
parking
parking
ratios
and
uses
ground
floor
uses.
Commissioner
hirschfein
has
volunteered
to
be
on
the
subcommittee.
A
We
will
be
working
with
city
council
person
coors,
who
is
on
the
affordable
housing
subcommittee
of
the
city
council,
and
I
have
not
yet
confirmed
whether
mayor
holstadge
will
be
joining
us
in
this
subcommittee.
A
We
will
be
attending
a
neighbor.
There
will
be
an
additional
neighborhood
meeting
that
the
subcommittee
will
be
expected
to
attend
through
zoom
and
you
will
be
receiving
additional
materials
on
the
project
that
go
toward
uses
and
go
toward
resolution
of
parking
issues.
A
I
have
a
motion
and
a
second
is
there
any
discussion?
Can
you
call
the
role
please.
A
B
D
B
M
D
And
then
my
other
question
had
to
do
specifically
with
the
cell
phone
tower
that
we
approved
last
time.
Maybe
glenn
you
can
tell
us,
it
was
on
a
vacant
lot
on
radio
road,
and
I
it's
been
bothering
me
ever
since.
D
C
Madam
chair
and
commission
glenn
has
actually
left
the
chamber,
so
I
can
answer
your
question,
commissioner
lewin.
So
typically,
when
we
have
cell
towers,
I
believe
our
practice
has
been
that
the
off-site
improvements
like
the
sidewalk
and
the
curve
and
gutters
etc.
Those
have
typically
been
deferred
to
covenant
or
just
not
required,
given
the
extent
of
the
request-
and
you
know
it
would
change,
depending
on
the
circumstances,
for
each
property,
one
of
the
ones
that
comes
to
mind
where
you
have
like
three
cell
towers
on
the
property,
is
off
of
vesaccino
and
sahara.
C
Road,
that
is,
a
property
that
is
a
was
a
vacant
property.
It
was
developed
with
three
cell
towers
over
time.
C
They,
they
did
some
on-site
improvements
relative
to
landscaping
to
provide
some
buffer
of
the
of
the
facilities
relative
to
the
surrounding
area,
and
in
that
case
they
didn't
require
a
sidewalk
but
this
street
and
then
the
curve
is
currently
improved
there
and
each,
as
I
said,
each
site
is
going
to
be
different.
Some
sites
we
have
are
in
shopping
centers,
where
they,
they
already
have
all
the
on-site
improvements
and
sidewalks
along
the
street.
C
D
Thank
you
david,
so
maybe,
if
we
could
at
a
future
date
not
tonight
come
up
with
maybe
a
best
practice
for
this
topic,
I
would
feel
better
than
just
taking
the
word
of
an
applicant
each
time,
and
I
was,
I
didn't
really
hear
your
answer
entirely
david.
Could
we
I
really
think
about
that
one
particular
lot?
It's
got
a
sidewalk
on
both
sides
and
it
stops
right
where
that
lot
is,
could
we
have
conditioned
it
that
cup
with
the
sidewalk
improvement?
If
we
thought
it
was
necessary
for
the
public
good.
C
Yeah,
I
don't
think
that
it
would
have
been
an
issue
for
that
property.
Considering
the
it's
not.
You
know
four
sides
of
the
property
that
were
requiring
improvements.
It
was
only
a
portion
of
the
property.
You
know
we
could
make
an
argument
that
there
is
a
legal
nexus
to
the
extent
that
you
know
there's.
This
is
a
new
project.
C
D
Thank
you
and
then
the
the
last
comment
I
had
from
my
fellow
commissioners
is
commissioner
song.
You
brought
up
something
I
I
couldn't
have
agreed
with
you
more
about
the
issue
of
the
parking
on
the
building
that
the
senior
living
building
and
I
wish
we
had
just
been
more
clear
in
the
previous
meeting
that
we
wanted
to
see
that
alternative.
D
So
I
really
just
want
to
say
I
I
really
valued
what
you
had
to
say,
but
the
reason
I
voted
the
way
I
did
was
I
I
really
wanted
this
project
to
finally
get
built
after
so
much
time.
So
I
hope
next
time
this
comes
up.
We
can
be
super
clear
that
we
want
to
see
that,
and
I
appreciate
the
vote
that
you
took.
I
understand
why
you
did
it.
That's
it,
commissioners.
I
hope
you
have
a
good
new
year.
A
Just
in
response
to
cell
towers,
as
4g
comes
up,
4g
will
require
many
more
cell
towers
than
we
currently
have,
and
they
will
probably
be
they'll
be
more
frequent,
but
they
might
be
on
light
poles
and
so
at
some
point.
As
we're
beginning
to
see
four
and
5g
technology,
we
actually
need
new
ordinances
to
cover
that
technology
and
it's
it's
coming
very
quickly.
F
Well,
yeah,
just
along
those
lines,
you
know
when
we
had
trouble
figuring
out
the
whole
odor
issue
with
cannabis.
We
had
our
own
consultant
talk
to
us
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
have
a
an
engineer.
That's
you
know
used
to
designing
these
facilities
independently
hired
by
this
by
the
city,
to
understand
what
it
would
take
to
co-locate,
a
4g
or
5g
tower
and
then
use
that
information
for
the
for
the
proposed
ordinance.
G
Exaggerate
80
feet
and
therefore
it
would
be
great
if
we
can
understand
what
the
consequences
are,
so
that
when
we
do
review
the
application,
we
can
see
that
co-mingling
requires
this
height
and
for
every
one
of
them
is
going
to
require
an
amendment
or
do
we
keep
it
so
that
every
project
becomes
comes
in
front
of
us
because
we
do
want
to
see
it
and
we
do
want
an
event
amendment.
G
I
think
those
those
were
the
questions
to
ask
and
be
able
to
understand
what
will
be
the
standard
and
the
visual
impact
on
the
new
technology
and
just
two
more
things
is
that
I
I
wish
I
can
have
the
42
to
have
the
right
observation
at
the
right
time.
So
I
can't
promise
that
I
will
perform
precisely
better,
but
I
will
try
my
best.
B
Well
change
the
subject:
former
mayor
coors
would
quarterly
ask
for
a
report
on
the
status
of
certain
projects
such
as
andes
or
tova
or
others.
I
don't
know
if
the
new
mayor
is
going
to
ask
for
that,
but
if
not
I'd
like
to
get
an
update,
at
least
the
public
could
hear
something
about
what's
going
on
and
those
two
projects
are
lingering,
to
put
it
mildly,
compared
to
other
projects
that
are
now
going
forward,
which
I'm
pleased
to
see
a
lot
of
them
are
actually
moving
forward.
B
I
also
want
to
mention
too
the
tower
market
was
approved.
The
city
council
approved
the
tower
market.
They
made
a
little
bit
of
an
alter
to
what
the
percentages
of
food
versus
alcohol,
so
that
project
was
approved.
A
B
A
I
think
we
could
ask
our
assistant
our
planning,
director
or
assistant
planning
director
for
the
for
what
exactly
happened
at
console.
C
They
did
specifically
require
30
for
staple
foods,
15
for
perishable
goods,
fruits,
vegetables,
etc
and
fresh
meats.
So
there
was
a
total
of
45
percent
between
those
two
and
then
there
was
a
maximum
requirement
of
20
percent
of
alcohol
display
sale
area.
C
C
A
The
approved
date
with
a
requirement
that
either
would
be
a
traffic
signal
or
that
there
be
a
complete
blocking
of
the
ability
of
pedestrians
to
cross
the
road.
At
that
point,
the
traffic
engineer
indicated
that
cutouts
wouldn't
do
it
there'd
be
to
cross
the
road.
A
At
that
point,
the
traffic
engineer
indicated
that
cutouts
wouldn't
do
it
there'd
be
no
way
anybody
could
cross
the
road
without
a
signalized
light,
so
they
they
did
have
that
amendment
of
an
either
or
amendment.
C
That's
correct:
yes,
the
they
did
require
that
either
a
barrier
or
a
barricade
be
installed
in
the
the
median
or
provide
a
traffic
light,
so
that
was
a
condition
of
their
approval
related
to
our
calendar
next
year.
I
believe
you
all
got
a
copy
of
our
meeting
schedule,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
you
in
the
direction
of
that.
C
If
there's
questions
about
our
meetings
next
year,
so
you
have
a
copy
of
that
and
we'll
be
able
to
plan
your
vacations
accordingly,
if
you're
going
anywhere-
and
so
I
think,
that's
it-
and
unless
the
director
or
has
any
additional
comments.
C
A
C
They
also
have
a
couple
of
class
one
and
two
designations
that
they'll
be
looking
at,
but
as
far
as
hearing
notices
or
public
hearing
items,
it
would
be
the
agave
project
and
the
block
b1
residential
project.
G
A
C
Chair,
I
would
just
I'll
let
you
know
that
our
attorney
todd
leishman
has
a
comment.
I
think
about
the
tova
hotel.
B
Hearing
commissioners,
jim
priest,
the
the
attorney
from
bbk
that
you're
probably
used
to
seeing
at
this
meeting,
he
did
anticipate
commissioner
marouzi's
question
about
the
toba
hotel,
and
so
today
I
checked
with
jeff
ballinger,
and
he
assured
me
that
he
said
let
them
know
that
we
are
proceeding
with
obtaining
a
demolition
warrant
and
we
are
working
through
the
bankruptcy
court
as
well.
So
I
wanted
to
share
that
with
you.
Since
you
asked.
A
I'm
not
sure
what
it's
currently
called.
It
was
a
site,
a
hotel,
that's
partially
built
across
the
convention
center
and
then
the
hotel,
that's
the
hyatt
on
the
quote:
the
potential
hyatt
andaz
hotel.
B
A
You
flynn
does:
does
our
computer
system
now
allow
you
to
provide
data
for
us
on
the
status
of
projects
that
were
previously
approved.