City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Mayor's Blue Ribbon Energy Advisory Committee, 6 Jan 2023

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1.5.2023 Portsmouth Energy Advisory Committee

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So I'll skip the attendance, it looks like we're all here and.

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Hope everybody had a great holiday. Why don't we start.

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Off going on a cpca agent, I just want to give everybody the good news.

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That heaven has been elected vice chairman of the board of cpcnh of thank you.

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Thank you actually, the well thank you counselor, but the uh the existing uh vice chair chris.

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Parker from dover he had to resign for work. Heavy work responsibility, so they asked me to fill in.

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um If I would do it at least through april, when there's the full board, so at least.

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Through through april, we'll see so tough to say no to when they ask you so.

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um All right, so the update on cpc and h is, I think, all quite positive and and um and very busy.

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I'll just quickly go through and can expand on anything you like uh the ceo search is in full.

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Is full steam ahead? The firm that was hired? uh We meet with on a weekly basis, and I expect we're.

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Going to have candidates to to begin interviewing later this month, their their reaching out to lots.

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Of folks and have have been done, preliminary interviews on their end and uh last last week.

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We saw a list, a short list of of candidates that they're probably likely going to bring forward, but.

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You know very talented, experienced folks in in the space from all different parts of the country and.

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um You know we'll see see where it goes, but uh the we expect the interviews to start later later. This.

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Month and the goal is to is to have a ceo on board for this organization by march. Okay,.

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Since the last meeting two important contracts, one in particular have been signed that the ascend.

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Analytics, who does all the portfolio management for the organization they've been actively doing.

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Their work, but the contract had not been uh pushed over the goal line. That contract was signed and.

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Approved by the board back in mid december um and that's the whole kind of suite of of portfolio.

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Management- and it also brings some credit support to the table as well to help cpc and h through.

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The initial initial period and they're not a load serving entity in a registered participant in iso.

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New england to buy and sell, and so the thought all along was we're, then going to hire another load.

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Serving entity ascend is doing that they've gone out to bid and they've contracted with calpine.

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um Energy who we're also using for retail services but it's a whole different division.

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Of of calpine, so calpine is the is the load serving entity um for the organization and.

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Working under the direction of ascend and that contract has been finalized as as well.

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Can you explain what a load serving thank you? I was going to ask the same thing. Well, my my.

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Friend, ben probably, is better than me, but there you need to be registered with iso new england.

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um As a load serving entity to buy and sell power within the you know, the regional, the.

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Regional network and cpcnh is not a load serving entity. They may be at some point.

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Down the road once they have more credit worthiness and can register to do so. Ascend.

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Was not registered in new england to be a load serving entity but ben? I don't know if you want to.

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Okay, I just want. I brought this up just so. The public can understand. Okay, sure people.

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Listening, some of the jargon we're using is not always familiar to people yep. Thank you.

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I had just was curious to understand the mechanics of the relationship there. So ascend is going to.

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Provide guidance on what the portfolio structure should be and then calpine will.

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Execute or they'll execute the transactions, but all the decisions around procurement will be made.

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By ascend and approved by the risk management committee of cpcnh, but the actual execution of.

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Those of those purchases will be done by calpine, because they're a a registered registered with.

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um With iso, iso will do settlement as well. Yes, yes, thank you and they do the customer billing.

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It's a whole different division of calpine. Okay, that's doing that they're. They have different.

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Different divisions, and so the the the two are are kind of unrelated but they're. Under the.

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Umbrella of of uh calpine and cpcnh had nothing no involvement in the selection of calpine as.

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The load serving entity, the ascend went out out to bid and and selected selected them.

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Okay, um so those are the two contracts that have been signed since the last meeting and.

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Several very important governance document documents have been uh just recently approved.

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And there's just been a boatload of work going on in this front, one that I've sent out to you and.

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Is also, I think, stephanie included in the in the agenda for today, and it's kind of three policies.

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Combined in one one is the energy risk management and then there's the rates customer rates and and.

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Then the third one is reserves uh the custom reserves, the financial reserves. Excuse me.

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um And so those are all packaged into one into one policy and when I talk about reserves initially.

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The build up of reserves is to build the kind of the financial stability of cp cnh, they're kind of.

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Joint reserves and there'll be so much money look to be on hand to cover so many days of operation.

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60 days 90 days, 120 days of operation and then once joint reserves are met, um kind of excess.

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Reserves then flow to the member communities to to use for their purposes, be it projects, uh perhaps.

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To kind of dampen rate increases, etc. So there's kind of three different buckets of reserves, but.

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There's a policy that is the the three things that I just mentioned: okay, that has been approved that.

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Was approved back on the 15th? Yes ben, I'm looking at page 22 of the rate policy yep, and it says that.

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The rate product content and member elections section that there'll be four rate products.

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That cpcnh plans to offer yeah, that is the that is part of what's called the complete service bundle.

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A community doesn't necessarily need to take all four of those and there's going to be uh two.

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Default products- one is a default product, that's equal to the renewable content of the utility.

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Default service, which right now is around 25 or so I think and and then there's another default.

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Product that has a higher renewable content of 33 percent. Some communities may decide to make their.

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Default be the higher renewable contact, but also give residents the opportunity to opt down to go.

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To the the lower, which is comparable with utility default service to save money and then there's.

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Two rate options that are higher renewable content, uh 50 and 100, and they gave them the.

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For a kind of nice little marketing names granite basic is the minimum renewable content of 23.4.

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Granite plus it's the 33 percent, then clean 50 and clean 100.. So those are the four products.

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That will be um available to the the member, the member communities and if the member communities.

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Decide through their surveying and public outreach activities that they may want to offer something.

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Slightly different or more options than that: what's how does that work? My understanding.

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Ben right now, out of the gate, these will be the four products. That's that's what these are the.

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Four products: if they can choose a mix of those products, yes, they could have my understanding.

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Peter is they could have all four or they could just have one right so or anything in between.

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And I know that these documents are, you know, you all have you know, lives and jobs and whatnot. So.

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You, you may not have read these, but the these policies are not a not a difficult, read. They're.

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They're, pretty you know you kind of get a good feel for things once you have an opportunity to.

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To go through them, okay, um the one that's a little beefier is the cost sharing agreement. That was.

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Just approved last week- and this is the the rules of the road for how all cost will be equitably.

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Shared among member member communities using kind of cost causation principles, um and this document.

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Has received a lot of attention by the member board, members and the consultants etc, and it's.

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Gone through a variety of iterations um and it was, it was finally approved this past, um the 27th they.

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Had a special board meeting and it covers, like general, administrative costs for the operation.

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um The the bulk of the cost obviously is around power power procurement, and then there may be.

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Direct cost, if, if a community is um working on a project per se, you know the if portsmouth was.

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Working on a project we wouldn't expect exeter to be paying for it, so the the cost sharing agreement.

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Kind of lays out in great detail how that will all work and the reporting and the auditing of it.

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Etc, and it it has now been approved by by the board, and one thing that that changed originally.

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um Well, they kind of unbundled it. So there's an attachment when you look at the cost, sharing.

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Agreements and attachment c- and it's called the the cpcnh um uh complete service bundle.

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And what that means? It's, it's all the services that cpc and h will provide a community in terms.

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Of the oversight, the consultants and obviously the power, the power procurement and out of the.

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Gate communities- that is the choice you can, you can select the the complete service bundle when.

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A community signs that document that's when they're committing themselves to cost once.

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They start taking power so signing any of these other documents. The reserve document, the rates.

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The cost sharing agreement, those are governance, documents and and a community signing them, doesn't.

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Commit them to any cost, but when you sign the the complete service bundles, it's like signing.

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A a contract for a service and it once the power starts to flow, then the communities will be paying.

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For that service, out of um the the small amount that's built into their rate structure, okay, so.

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um So all the communities that are going live here soon are going to be signing all these documents.

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Including the complete service bundle and and then be ready to go, live. And I want to because.

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This is like happening here very very soon. The process really starts in, like three weeks.

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um And so the the 12 or so communities that are going live in wave one. They have to get.

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Before their their elected officials and get everything signed and buttoned up, and so there.

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There's a lot of angst right now to get all this done, because these documents were just.

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Finalized and now they have to get them before they're in their respective towns and and then.

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Cities and then be prepared for um for for go, live, kevin, sure, peter peter and then peter.

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um So I think I saw on the send report. Is there a time frame uh that once they signed.

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The complete service that they have to stay with it, a community yeah, it's it's basically a 36 month.

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um Deal but there's there's exit ramps right up to the point you start taking.

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Power, if you get if a community gets a cold feet and then there's you there's a lot of.

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um uh Verbiage in the cost sharing agreement that talks about how how communities can back.

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Out earlier than 36 months, and how how there may they may be on the hook for some financial.

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Commitment because power has been purchased for them and hedged out over 36 months. But if there's.

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Other communities coming on board that perhaps that power could be used for then a community.

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Might be able to back out without uh as much being on the hook, assuming communities also have built.

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Up reserves reserves could be used to exit out of the contract and pay their. You know what is.

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Owed so there's there's a lot of text in the in the document that talks about the commitment, but.

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Then also, how a community, if they so choose, could get out of the arrangement um going going forward.

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Yeah kevin, uh oh did john. Did you wanna.

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No, I just here, you had your hand. Oh thanks. I didn't know I was being watched.

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So uh kevin, I just wanted to ask you if you could kind of kind of.

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Summarize a little bit the philosophy of how the cost sharing is going to happen.

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um For example, I would assume there is some, like you were saying: fixed costs, there's some variable.

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Costs um are these costs going to be allocated based on the number of residents participating.

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In each community, the power they take, the businesses different from this residents.

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There's a variety I don't know in general, I'm just looking for what? What is the philosophy it.

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Depends on the cost, the the the the the approach that I'm just going to go to uh and stephanie. We.

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Could also pull that up if you want the cost sharing agreement, page yeah I'll get you there.

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This um this document is one of the things that we can yeah. um Let me just get to it here.

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There's a table in the in the cost sharing agreement that it lists out various forms of.

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General administrative costs, the power costs, the direct cost and, depending on.

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The category of the cost there's a different formula for how the how.

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The cost would be calculated to go back to the community. A lot of it is a round load.

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um But there's there's some other different examples of that. Is there like a big.

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Difference between residential customers versus businesses- I don't believe so. I don't believe so.

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um Trying to think where it is it, this energy portfolio risk.

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Management, no it's in the cost, sharing agreement, which is it 15.. Thank you.

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Yes, yes yeah, so thank you, uh council, kate, the the on page 14 of the cost, sharing agreement. There's a.

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Table here that goes through the the four or five categories of cost and the allocation methodology.

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That table there, yes yeah yeah and you can see much of it is many of them- are tied to uh load.

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John, this is a page 110 of the whole meeting packet. I could share it, but.

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Everybody here can see what I have up right now. I don't know if you can.

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uh I'm not able to see it, but I didn't mean that this happened.

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So um so that there's a question, oh sure, I'm sorry allison yeah, I'm not quite sure when I.

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Should ask these, but I was just wondering if there's there's anything in this, that either.

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The city, legal or financial people need to look at yeah. So uh it's a good question. So a concert.

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Tabor, I think, plans to have all of these documents brought before legal and then eventually they have.

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To be brought before the council, um we fortunately here in portsmouth, have some time on that, and but.

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um Yeah, each of these documents needs to get uh get approved by the member communities.

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And there is a um there's, a powerpoint deck that they're finalizing that are being used.

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By the way of one communities, that kind of gives a high level summary in a powerpoint.

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Form in in in conjunction with the with the documents, if I, if I could add sure,.

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We we put these in because they have been approved so they're. Now official policy.

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And they're relevant they're very relevant, but our sequence. Our order of events so to speak is.

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Well, first, we get our aggregation plan completed um after the public hearings.

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Then we take that aggregation between them to the city council and they authorize us to move ahead.

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Would look for and then we would be in a position to.

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Commit the city to these different agreements, so you know if we get the eap.

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Drafted, we have our public hearings next month. In march, we go to the council late in the spring.

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That puts us in a path to be ready to move ahead with all of these summer.

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Would you correct on that kevin yeah? I think so and I I don't think there's any harm sooner.

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Rather than later, to start to get city attorney, um you know up to speed and- and uh you know taking.

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Questions and so forth, but um yeah and and just as a as a committee member here in portsmouth, I.

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Think for all of us, it's helpful to start to see. You know this stuff taking shape and the.

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Details behind it because there's been a lot of rigor, I think by the coalition in terms of.

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This I just wanted to hey councilor, I'm just passing around those uh a few pages um that.

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I passed on to you today. I just wanted to talk to him here in a sec, quick and I'll wrap up.

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So the other thing that has been completed, that is, um was particularly helpful and it was in it.

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Was in the scope of their contract was a send, was asked to do a technical business review of.

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Cpcnh kind of the viability of the whole the whole thing, and they they have completed that.

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Review with positive positive results um and you have the full the full document um that was.

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Sent out and then, as as counselor said, there's a couple sections there: the executive summary and.

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A few other sections that are kind of give you the high level snapshot, but they did a pretty rigorous.

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um Kind of scenario, analysis and simulation around uh like a 100 different price points and different.

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Levels of load and cost et cetera, et cetera in great detail and came back and is showing that.

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The the launch and the focus is really on wave one. So you'll see it's it's it's. It's optimistic.

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About wave one going live that isn't to mean you know wave for us, it's less! So necessarily it it's.

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Just the the intent of this was we're launching a new opera nation, and should we go forward with.

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With this, and if you you know, review the document, um the review sections of it, it's it's, it's quite.

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Positive in terms of the viability of this of cp and h, the ability to produce savings.

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Produce savings on a going forward basis, as well as building up substantial financial reserves for.

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The for the member, the member communities, and um so the one document that I sent around powerpoint.

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Says technical assessment recap I mean that's like the hundred thousand foot view of their takeaways.

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um From their 60-page document or, however, many pages um and yeah it just it kind of goes through.

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You know I won't um bother running you through those. You can read this as well as me, but just.

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uh Gives you a snapshot on kind of wave, one, the benefits the savings projected savings and then.

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The outlook going uh going forward um over they did a five-year review out to 2028 and um it.

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Came back, it came back uh solid and they were pretty conservative. I I understand in terms of.

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Their assumptions that they were working through, they really did seem to emphasize that being in.

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Wave one was beneficial just in that they were, the timing for purchase of the power was going to be.

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Probably pretty good yeah right now. Yes, yes, so I mean, if you, if you looked, um I don't know if.

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They had it in this one here they, you know they were saying the medium forecast for.

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For over the next 36 months for wave, one communities is 19, lower.

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um And then for all. And if you looked over to the right side of toward down toward the.

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Bottom they're saying the meeting forecast benefit out over to 2028 is 10 10, lower.

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um And that doesn't necessarily mean that rates are going to be 19, lower or 10 percent lower.

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Because there's going to be a combination of savings going into rate reduction as well as.

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Savings going into building up financial reserves, although they do say 10 million in customer.

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Savings, yes yep, so yeah that may not equate to 19, but still pretty good, yeah. Absolutely, but.

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When the percentages that they're talking about, isn't necessarily it because the assumptions that.

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They built into the analysis there too, that for go, live for wave one, that there'd be a five percent.

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um That the rates would be five percent, less than utility default service or seven and.

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A half percent, so those are the two right now that that were on the table in their technical.

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Analysis but then the balance, the balance of savings are designed to go into reserves and.

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To build up the financial reserves to have to um to make sure we can support the operation through.

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um You know perhaps some harder times all right, so so the takeaway from the analysis.

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Was I think, uh comforting to members um and the folks from ascend are pretty darn impressive.

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And have really rolled up their sleeves and are very committed to to the coalition. And I.

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Mentioned a concert table, I think at any point in time, if we wanted to have one of their lead.

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Guys talk to the heart at a committee meeting they'd be happy to do that. To take questions.

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I really liked what uh ascend found in their modeling. They found that we'll have a price.

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Advantage versus not just the default rate, but they projected a price advantage versus.

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The broker plan so going back to the fall of 21 when we did all that due diligence.

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Advantage to the portfolio approach, I think, and the the the end of the ascend report was.

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A really uh kind of motivational and inspiring part about local renewable energy projects.

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Much cpc and age over the next five seven eight years could be.

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Could be creating and supporting local renewable energy project.

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And those go come back to our customers as savings.

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As it gathers more towns and be a voice for eliminate before getting the legislature to get.

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Rid of some of the artificial limits on local um renewable megawatts that are produced, so I thought.

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um Not just from the point of view of cost, but also from the point of view of.

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Participating and driving an energy transition. This this report says we're on the right track.

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Yes, and also the report is designed to help build membership too, because that's one of the.

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Levers that aids, the business case going forward, there's we're up to 27 members now and portsmouth.

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Joined, I think we had. We were number 19., yeah and there's another there's, probably double that that.

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Are actively um looking into cpc and h? So what's going on with manchester, because I know that we.

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They had received all the information, not that I have not heard anything more um around where.

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Manchester city and clifton and others know the one, the big city that I had heard, that was.

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Conquered that was perhaps more interested right now than manchester. So um I I don't. I don't know.

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um In the assessment it lists the second wave being april of 2024. is that the earliest they.

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Think we're going to have or is it is that kind of the latest case scenario yeah. So.

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I I believe portsmouth would be able to go later this year um if the market was advantageous and.

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Can produce savings? I think what their modeling is, that is historically april and may is the lowest.

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The lowest energy costs month so to be able for a wave to go, live with the best savings.

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It's that you know second quarter of the year, so they're they're modeling it that way.

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um But they had always talked about. The coalition had always talked about a spring and a fall.

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And I don't think, there's anything prohibiting a community portsmouth from getting ready as soon.

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As we can, and if the market is favorable going live, we might not have the exact same savings.

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Had we implemented in april or if we implement it, whatever the rates become next april or may we'd.

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Get those but there might be a six-month period where we're not going live with as much savings as.

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Wave one, I would say with wave one that it's not all about price, um because there's there's a lot.

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Of moving parts right now that are going to get tested, live right, you're going live with customer.

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Service call center billing a notification process to customers being available to customers at your.

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Call center having reps that are trained that know what to talk about. I think we'll be in good shape.

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We will be in better shape three months from now six months ago. Nine, so you we could go live with.

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A rate that's lower, but then frustrate resonance with a a support to that customer service support.

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Or billing or a notification process, that's choppy um and have folks say I don't know you.

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Know I don't know if it was worth the five percent reduction in my bill, so me personally, I I would.

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I'm comfortable getting those things all shook out and working well on top of whatever the.

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Rate savings is, I think, it'll provide a better experience for our residents. Just my two cents.

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So but yeah we're, I think we could perhaps be ready. I mean go live later this year at the market.

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um Supports it and I and I I think they weren't saying that the the next waves were going to have.

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Any less it was just, they were really looking at the first wave, so that is what it sounded.

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Like to me, yep, yes, and if you noticed there was a little bit of a caveat around nashua. If you look.

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In the document um they were just a bit delayed in their putting their eap together and being.

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Ready- and there may or may not be ready and they may or may not decide to go with cpcnh right at.

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This point in time, so there's a little bit of uh uncertainty around nashua, whether they're going.

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To go live april, maybe a little bit later or maybe they're going to delay a little bit and they're a.

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Big load contributor, but one of the things you read in in ascends report is with or without.

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Nashua, this is a very viable proposition. We don't need nashua to be successful. We.

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Certainly like their load and for to benefit their residents, but it's not necessary for for go, live.

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So you might see that they might be going live in june or may you know we'll see.

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Okay, um so that's the um the technical assessment you can take a peek at that, but it's it's.

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um It's I think, comforting in terms of the plan that was put together by cpcnh is really playing.

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Out I think effectively so then. Finally, the last thing I wanted to mention um is just.

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This glide path to go live not that we're going live, but I want to this is this is happening and.

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It's not out a few months, so the other document says wave one procurement, great setting process.

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So right now, if you're a wave one community you're, getting all your documents up through.

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Your your governing bodies right the documents I mentioned and then later.

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This month, on january, 30th a send is going to come to the risk management committee of the.

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Coalition and they're going to give an update on the market and they're going to. We expect tell.

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Us it's favorable for go, live; here's the data to support it and the risk management committee will.

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um I assume bless that right and right up to that point in time a a community can could back out so.

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Even if you signed the complete service bundle or your durham and you've signed the complete.

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Service bundle right up to that point where it sends giving a market update to the risk.

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Management committee and if they hear some things that are giving them a little bit of agenda, they.

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Can say you know they could tap out and say we're not we're not going so they could exit.

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um And you have to have an authorized officer for the community so eventually we'll have to.

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You know decide who that is for um for portsmouth, okay, so the risk management.

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Committee gives the go ahead to ascend now to go out and procure power and they'll do that quickly.

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And they're going to then come back and to the on february 6 to the risk management committee and.

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We're going to then start deliberating around rates based upon what comes back and there's.

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Going to be a rate setting process based into those four buckets that I I mentioned- okay and.

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um And then those rate products are then going to be available. It's going to be a.

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Public deliberation you'll come back, the rates will then come back to the community, and you know.

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I'll just pick on dover or excuse me durham and come back and say: okay, here's the rates.

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You know which do we do we want to pick all four. Do we want one do one two which do we want for.

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Our default default rate etc, and that then, will go. They they approve it. It then goes to the full.

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Board on february 16th of the cpcnh, the rates get finalized and and then we're good to go and all.

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The communities that are in wave one will start their notification process for their customers. The.

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Hearings that have to take place and we'll be on a on a glide path to go live for april april. 1St.

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Okay, so I mean here we are whatever is january 6th and you know tangible things happen on january.

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30Th, where this whole process starts uh going up to then a go live on on april 1st and there's.

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Going to be kind of paralleling, this um kind of public education, communication marketing plan so.

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Communities are getting a little bit of benefit from a pr standpoint around all. That's going on.

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um So that's that sort of stuff is right now peter [laughter]. Thank you. um Kevin and john.

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Has there been a lot of discussion um on the board um about the current financial crisis situation.

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Worldwide and the volatility of energy costs, um the reason I bring that up is because um I spoke.

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To don creese today the consumer advocate and his his comment was that he believes that ever source.

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Will come in with a lower rate in february of 20 cents from the 26 cents it has today now people.

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Seeing that from the outside are going to say geez, you know rates are going back down again.

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So uh I don't know if I want to change when things going in the right direction. Usually people.

C

Behave the opposite that they should so when they see rights coming down, they still say. Well, you.

C

Know someone's asking me to sign on to something that might be more expensive. Are we aware of the.

C

The optics of what might be happening in the energy markets that are so volatile and how.

C

That affects maybe the psychology of of people in these communities, or do you think that people.

C

Have figured out that um you know we're offering a better product we're offering local resilience.

C

And independence, and maybe that's something that can be sold easier than just the right.

B

Well, yeah: this is my area of expertise. I don't know what my expertise is, but.

B

You know I I would expect that all the distribution company rates in new hampshire.

B

Are going to ebb and flow up and down, you know, and they they always. You know after we had the.

B

The arctic, whatever it was in 2016, you know that that 15 16 was crazy period and things things.

B

Have been kind of uh sleepy since then and now things have been crazy and the the I think the.

B

Coalition's model in the portfolio management models that, even if even if ever source were.

B

To have its next round of default service be 18 cents that they are confident. If you read.

B

Ascends analysis they feel very confident based on the risk premium. That's built into the default.

B

Service auctioning process that isn't built it that isn't reflected here that they're going to.

B

They feel confident that they're going to be able to beat rates by a five percent margin going going.

B

Forward, that's what that's, what the analysis is saying and ben you're. This is your space. You can.

B

Talk to it better than me, but that sounds pretty reasonable, yeah. Okay, and to that point, wouldn't.

E

The at least at the consumer level- wouldn't they have the rates right in front of them when they.

E

Made that decision well we're going to make our we're going to help sign on before the community.

E

Yeah right, so if the community decides to sign on before, then that's all right. But when it comes to.

H

Humor goes to get pay their to decide whether to opt out or not they're going to say if I opt.

E

Out I'm going to lose money or save money and they can make that choice when the time comes.

E

Also, so so that that comes to the timing of what, when we implement to, because.

B

What's going on right now for wave one? Is they wave to the distribution? Companies came out with.

B

Their default service rates and announced them in december for go live february 1. So they know the.

B

Price to be they, you know they can look and see what kind of headroom they're going to be able to.

B

The coalition is going to be able to get, and so that whole process, though, will start up again in.

B

um So the next round of rates are in august, so new rates will be available in like june.

B

For for the august time frame, so once rates become known in june than the cpcnh will.

B

Know again, the price to be, and potentially the availability for a wave 2 community to go, live.

B

You know in the early fall knowing that they're, it's going to be below default.

B

Default service, so so it could hinge on that and also the other thing you brought up about.

H

How many issues are they running into with the launch of the wave yeah, and I don't mean.

B

I I think it's going to go reasonably well, but they're they're. All I'm saying is there.

B

There could be some hiccups with launch outside of just the rate yeah, that as a wave 2 community, we.

B

That'll that'll have shook out by the time we're ready to go. That's that's all I'm saying yeah.

G

So I'm wondering when we're talking about you know wave one wave two. It seems like.

G

There's going to be designated times when we're going to be able to do this versus a sort of a.

G

Rolling enrollment kind of thing um is that that's that's my understanding, allison, but I.

B

I don't want to speak out of school. I think I'd like to have to have some of the experts at cpa.

B

That'd be a sense of the world comment on that or or get some input from like a samuel, golding.

B

On whether or not there's a kind of a rolling any month or it's because my understanding initially.

B

Was that it was twice a year and it was tied to when the default service rates are known.

B

For the distribution companies and then know the price to beat for your for your go, go live.

B

But so what I'm hearing um yeah, I think allison for that question and I think in.

A

Your question, I'm hearing that maybe kevin, and I should talk with us at.

A

Henry and clifton to see if we could go in the fall.

A

And I think that's optimum for us I'd love to know in the fall.

A

But I think that's a conversation we yeah and my understanding is we'd be able to once. We know the.

B

Price to beat that we would be able to beat it, but it may not be. You know, what's happening in april.

B

What's happening in april yeah, but um so um the interest of time, I think we understand sure and.

A

Next up, we've got a logo selection. Yes,.

A

Thanks to allison, we have four different looks stephanie. Can you yes, this is up on the screen.

A

And uh I thought the best way to do this would be to just um see how many votes each one gets. um I.

A

Think they all have their different personalities from the bottom right. What was supplied by cpcnh.

A

And that's the city of portsmouth logo, kind of stylized and the other three are from allison.

A

So I was going to ask steph anie to uh to just take us through each and.

A

Let's do a preliminary vote and see what we get.

F

Do you want allison to explain the why they're three variations, what the thinking was sure well.

G

Actually, there can be a lot more variations so like, if you like, if you like, the color of sun.

G

Of the sun, in one of them, and not in the other, there's at least two different patterns regarding.

G

The river uh there's one that's just uh sort of cartoon version where you can see it going off.

G

um And then there's the other one that makes it look like it's more tidal based.

G

um Which we are peter had remarked that at one point there was an old power plant.

G

um On the river and um that it's these buildings sort of resembled that.

G

um But and the type of sun you choose is can be different, but these were just sort of I. I also.

G

Have I've been working on a logo for uh portsmouth climate action, and so I have there's another one.

G

Over here that's a little bit of a variation on uh on these. You know I don't know, but if we just.

G

Want to look at these and say that that would be great if you had this color going on or whatever.

B

I I really like the title one because I think that's that's kind of uh an element of of fort.

D

Smith, I like that or the one with the white sun that shows the river, but the title one. I think.

B

Reflects the tide which one is that the bottom left right bottom left, yeah and the ones with the.

B

Sun, the only they're beautiful they only take I took away is like almost like our for, like a solar.

B

Or a solar initiative, obviously there's. Hopefully we have lots of solar, but we're kind of more than.

B

That so I like the sun without the without the rays and and I like the title um feature there.

B

I think that was pretty cool. I had a question: is there any benefit or is this? Is there any.

H

Concern or preference on the from the city to stay consistent with the city logo.

F

I don't think so. Okay, just checking, I would ask, I would ask the city councilor yeah city councilor,.

E

Sorry, no I mean well, I mean we haven't even discussed it at city council right. So I don't.

I

I don't think there necessarily is. I think that if there's a recommendation that comes from this.

I

Committee, okay and the other- I don't know if you've seen the other cities in the coalition.

F

um They're they vary. I it comes to mind that exeter's version has the bandstand, which I don't.

F

Think is in their city, mm-hmm exeter city seal is their the fish they'll wipe. That's right, of course,.

I

But the bandstand is the symbol of the city, so so that's what kind of just their power can I just.

A

Ask um any of you have a particular favorite I'll just raise the hand yeah, but I'm not a voting. Oh.

E

Come on peter, I don't know well, if you want me to, but I yeah, I think I should decide so um since it.

F

Looks like everybody has a favorite, um maybe does it make sense to talk about? Why I mean kevin did.

F

So maybe the others should yeah. So I, like I, like the title one that kevin chose too. What I don't.

C

Like so much about that, though, is the sun. It could look like some kind of explosion in the background.

C

So it's maybe too much. Nothing is a nuclear physicist that isn't quite seabrook direction, but.

C

It's newington station, it looks like you know: it's going to be sun. I think it'd.

C

Be better if we can really see that it is the sun and not something nebulously yeah.

C

That's the only thing, but I like that the best I think from all the logos.

G

Well, I I like that one, the best and- and I actually like the sun, that way. I agree with.

G

um What kevin said regarding the rays and just being solar, and that that is you know the sun's.

G

Setting on the water there and it looks very large in the sky. Sometimes when you look out over the.

G

Water, and so that's why- and these are actually it didn't, come out very well in this image, but these.

G

Are actually raised, but they're all very tight? Okay, you know what I mean the way it spreads.

G

But I like the title one as well.

E

A

Like we've got some momentum.

C

I bet I concur. I like the color palette, the best I like the balance associated with the land and.

D

The water, I like the notable landmarks and I think that the texture on the water is appealing.

H

um Yeah I like that one too um and I'm okay with the sun. I didn't see the.

H

But yeah like it's fusion, I like that balance and the you know the north church and the bridge.

B

How do you do that allison, I'm just curious: how do you make these this.

G

Was all done with powerpoint? I don't have a graphic arts package or anything this.

G

Was all yeah there's lots of little tricks? You can do with powerpoint so.

B

And there's I have the other communities here, and ours would be the nicest.

B

Okay, that's settled foreign.

C

Give us a direction. Yes, do you have the packet so that we're to look at the sheet.

F

At the sheet, or I can share the screen for this, I think I think I remember which.

F

Can you see that on the your screen? No, yes, okay,.

J

No, I like getting a bridge in there.

B

So how's this work stephanie this just goes to henry or so.

F

um Yeah, I guess we he's waiting to hear for our he's went in to get our logo.

F

um I also mentioned to counselor tabor that by selecting the logo tonight I will incorporate.

F

It into the postcard so that, as we start talking about the survey we'll have that.

F

um Right, yes, so allison, if you could send it to me separately, I don't think you did sure yep.

B

Thank you, allison yeah, yeah, nice work. Thank you.

A

A

Adrift coming in yeah with the tide.

A

Let's move on to the survey and in your packet we saw the two prices from the two vendors.

F

F

So we were advised by the purchasing department that uh project this of this.

F

Amount doesn't need to formally go out to bid. She did, however, request estimates from she tried to.

F

Request them from three different companies never got a reply. After several tries with.

F

Easter marketing she got the two that you see, one from spectrum, one from southport and the biggest.

F

Difference here is that southport is able to give us 13, 812 residents and businesses in the in the.

F

801 zip code um and this every door direct mailer is it's address specific, so that your and your.

F

Everything is addressed individually and you're, not going into a package of a bunch of mailers and.

F

Just put in your post box or mailbox or whatever so um it it's a postal service product and both of.

F

The the postage estimates are based on about an 18 cents per item cost. So those are the options.

A

So, where we left off on the survey was we had the postcard complete.

A

We have the survey set up online, there's a qr code on the post on the postcard.

A

Correct as well the link for those who want to type it in on the pc.

A

This was the last piece that we needed to implement. We just needed a vendor to.

A

Get the postcard out spoken to the city manager, we're okay with this about spin.

A

A

Will engage the public and we get that wave of engagement along with.

A

Perhaps some of the publicity around the the towns that are going live, I think we'll get.

A

Good participation when we follow up with the public hearing in february.

A

So I think what stephanie would you well? I would say one last thing: I do think it's valuable to.

A

Have the businesses get this articulate small businesses, large businesses, we know, probably have.

A

Their own broker plan that they've negotiated, but you know you know a lot of the smaller.

A

Businesses and if you know, portsmouth business composition, we're a giant pyramid with hundreds.

A

And hundreds of small businesses at the bottom, one two three person, enterprise.

A

Few large ones at the top, so I think, there's value in having both business and residential.

A

But I welcome other people's point of view on that. I think the best spender forest would be.

H

I don't know about spectrum, but southport's, a portsmouth company.

H

Too, which is nice? Yes, I had a question about the. Why was the number lower.

E

Southport number get it again. I guess mailings, that's that's an actual. um I believe.

F

That southport is including new england. Let me just check oh the zip code. Yes,.

F

Yeah, the difference in number is the zip code. The south port is specifically 801.

E

Although, wouldn't it be bigger, if it was lit because newington's our zip code too, aren't they.

E

I don't remember yeah, they are well, I know they are, but that's fine. It's probably not significant.

E

And so it's that I guess my real question is it's the it's. The residence plus businesses.

E

With southport, so it's more mailings for self-port, even though it looks like it's less here, it's more.

E

Because it's the residents and all the businesses right- oh great, okay, yeah- that makes sense.

A

I figured about eleven thousand addressable housing.

J

Or residential.

G

So is it just going to be like resident at 380 greenleaf avenue, or is it going.

G

To be allison, tanner, 380, greenleaf avenue.

E

It sounds like one would just wouldn't even have the street address and the other one.

F

Yeah I can clarify from both of them exactly who, where the number comes from.

A

For my money, you know southport's a local company you're, going to add the businesses.

A

So I was inclined to go that way. If it were my, where is spectrum located, are they a.

H

H, I thought southport sounded familiar and I looked them out there in islington.

H

Yes, southport's over by hannaford.

B

I think it's great to use the manchester oh manchester.

I

I would also go I mean I, I like the idea of using a local company if we can use a local company yeah.

I

Yeah, I agree yeah me too, more sustainable, too yeah, less trucking yeah yep counselor. Do we need.

F

A a roll call vote, because it's an expenditure yeah. Why don't? We uh all the way to motion to.

A

Recommend to the city manager that the.

A

Energy advisory committee survey.

A

Be done by southport, so I'm a test quoted to the city.

H

So moved I'll, second, that all in favor aye opposed robstein, okay,.

A

And I'm glad my old company didn't bid, because then I didn't have to abstain. I'm saying okay.

A

um So uh that will put us on a path to, uh as we had initially said in our timeline put.

A

This survey out into the field in january, um maybe it would be a good idea, stephanie just.

A

To put that postcard back up again sure, and we do a court good check.

F

I will do that.

F

John, can you see that I can see that okay, her logo is going to make it look so much nicer.

A

That's right, yes,.

F

So, do we want just the new logo or do we want the cpc logo and ours or what combination.

H

Is there one on the this? Is it two-sided? Yes, uh uh so the back is one of these.

F

Days, I'll sort out which button so the back is black and white. With the qr code.

F

That's why all the spikes.

F

C

Yeah, I think it it's good to have both logos on there. I think we we want to be both the partners.

C

Of the others well, which one do we overwrite with our new one right or left yeah? I think you.

I

You change out the city of portsmouth logo for the community for the portsmouth community power logo.

A

That's what I would do, yeah, I'm just thinking down the line when people.

I

Get a bill and it has a community power logo on it. They will have seen it before.

A

Okay, that's cool to the utility. No that's true! Well in a year, is it going to have the community.

I

Power look on it yeah do we know what it's it's going to have a different logo. I don't have any.

H

Logo is just going to have a line in there. It says it won't happen. Portsmouth community power.

B

Just typed long supplier, so it's going to be, like my same, my current supplier yeah. If you.

B

Were with a competitive supplier same envelope, it just has like one yeah, one get your service.

I

Through and it's going to have cp cnh's address, yeah, that's very boring and the phone number to.

B

Call the call center yeah so counselor if I may counselor tabor, if I may, that might.

F

Suggest that we you, we are introducing our new logo and that maybe having the the.

F

Endorsement the the recognizable city seal says that this is a program of the city, not yet another.

F

Third party for consideration, so we would do our new logo on the left and the city seal on the ring.

F

I'm thinking that might make some sense.

F

But that's a non-voting member here I just float the idea.

A

And and you're right um and the city of portsmouth is is a trusted. Is it trusted brand? I would say.

B

We would scratch the community power coalition's logo.

G

Right yeah: well, do we just have to have the two logos there? Couldn't we put the portsmouth.

G

Community power logo on the upper right hand, corner of that side. I mean it's sort of open.

A

I don't think there's a lot of recognition of the cpcnh logo. Okay,.

B

Yeah we can introduce that downstream yeah, some fashion.

B

So the cities on the left and ours is on the right. Okay,.

F

Yeah that works either way.

A

Everybody: okay with that yep yep. That makes sense on the left, because that.

E

That kind of introduces the support new parts of the logo.

E

With the community park village in new hampshire, so it kind of goes together.

A

According to the second page, on the flip side,.

A

20, seven communities now yes update that.

D

The only question I have is at the end of the paragraph.

D

Residents will be able to choose to be in the portsmouth community power electricity program.

D

Or stay with eversource or their default, or their competitive supplier just to kind of preempt. The.

D

Question do I have to switch to this if I've already gone to competitive supply, right, yeah.

A

B

What was the addition ben, maybe after or stay with eversource yep.

D

Or your competitive supplier, maybe even within parentheses, yeah but whatever just to kind of.

D

Give give a signal that, if you've already gone to competitive supply, you don't have to do this.

D

Or you know just so that you know that you have options and so the wording the residents will be.

B

Able to choose they're, not really they will. Ultimately, they can choose to opt out right.

B

Right so technically it's correct, but it's a little bit of a.

H

It it's obvious that the 22 or new hampshire communities right do, we need to say nh in.

H

Front of that, or it's pretty obvious since it's of new hampshire or 27 now.

G

I think it's pretty clear: okay,.

A

Okay um and remember too, that the survey we can the survey is dynamic, it can be changed.

A

Right up to the last minute and we can preview the upcoming public hearing when somebody finishes.

A

The survey we can have something pop up: the goblin about the public hearing coming up.

A

Or the two dates for public hearings. Can I ask a a question.

D

I had been thinking that our survey would be used to help identify what the rate products would be.

D

But it seems like it's: it's working out that we've already got our four choices determined for us.

D

I don't remember what the questions were in the survey, but do we need to? I think they aligned.

G

Quite well, they do what this says yeah. I know we had a 50 and 100 percent and then there was.

G

Your your 23 cents or whatever it was, um I'm not sure what that, but there were four choices: okay,.

D

So as long as we're good they're great, I just want to make sure we're.

F

Not inadvertently miscommunicating yeah the category of better lucky than smart.

A

Are the cheapest for me the same rate with more renewables 50, renewable and 100.

A

Oh wow, we nailed it yeah about it. That's amazing! Thank you. Thanks for humoring me.

A

Our timeline in january.

A

The public hearings and I do think it'll be very valuable to see if the demand that we saw in the.

A

Event in june, you had such strong desire for renewables if that holds up in a larger sample.

A

It would be very exciting if it did, because then, from the point of view.

A

Of a sustainability initiative, this could really move the needle for us.

A

So any more discussion on on that on the survey.

J

Also um you're also going to list it on the you know, the newsletter that comes.

F

Out from the city and we'll do a press release all the usual communications.

A

Are people feeling comfortable about moving ahead here? Yep? Yes, yes,.

D

I am, and I'm especially pleased by the.

D

um The the policy that discusses what the rate products are where it talks about the.

D

Clean energy and the preference for local and in-state wrecks. That was something that we had.

D

Talked about before, and I'm really pleased to see that that made it into the policy statement.

D

Yeah, I am too, I agree with you. Ben.

A

So all of this.

A

For the completion of the aggregation plan, um we'll talk a little bit about the public.

A

Hearing dates, um but uh you know I think we use that survey data to maybe strengthen.

A

Some elements of the aggregation plan: if it comes back really strong, then we.

A

Could say this is what our community wants. I did want to mention the the other element.

A

And we've been waiting on was the eversource data.

A

I could give you a ben d'ant, antonio um weren't, about that data for us.

A

So we could see household counts in true to form. It looks like nearly everybody is on the default.

A

Again underlines the the opt-out opportunity- um and I just wanted to thank ben because.

A

The timber source data came in a pretty hard to read large spreadsheet.

A

He does far more complicated modeling than this movie.

A

Recap of it, so there you see it.

A

So we have that element now peter fritz. Now that we can add into the document. Well ben was that.

A

Complete did you people questions answered on that? I think we were just not entirely.

D

Clear as to as in rate class g, um I think that the the table that was blank in the document.

D

Suggested you know rate classes that align with municipal residential commercial, industrial.

D

But it gave notes that you should adapt your table to what you've actually got for your.

D

Constituency- and I think that was applicable for us- for our commercial and industrial.

D

They're grouped together, where but they're in small and large and rate class g. If you look up.

D

um At the puc, what rate class g means it's kind of a default rate.

D

And there was nothing else in the data that suggested what the municipal accounts were in.

D

So, just by process of elimination, I wasn't sure if the g rate folks was just municipal or municipal.

D

And residence or residence only given that there's a separate resident only customer class. So um if.

D

Possible, if necessary, for the purposes of actually implementing the program, it may be helpful to get.

D

Further clarification on who's actually in class g. Alternatively, if cpc and h or ascend.

D

Analytics it's doing the portfolio management if they're comfortable with just procuring.

D

Power to match what rate class g is, and it's not necessarily important to know if it's municipal.

D

Or residential or something else that may not be necessary. But if, if it's helpful for the portfolio.

D

Administration and the program implementation, it may be worth trying to get some resolution.

B

I said one question: I think peter kate had sent off to samuel one of your earlier.

B

um Spreadsheets that eversource had given, and I'm just I think it made.

B

Its way into ascends numbers here, but ascend only has I'm looking now a little over 8 000.

E

Municipal, no residential and non-residential has eight thousand, and we got like four fifteen.

B

Thousand here right uh they talk about cluster of counts, yeah yeah, you have the utility default.

B

Service you're shown twelve nine right: twelve thousand nine hundred nine plus two six yeah and.

B

um I'm not sure where ascend got that uh from, but I remember samuel was trying to dig it up.

B

To get to ascend, and it was something that kate had given him, so I don't know if maybe.

B

An earlier version from kate didn't have the complete eversource numbers, not sure yeah.

E

And if you're so you're saying the municipal or potentially the municipal is the 51.

E

000 annual usage versus 260 on the total and that's like 20 and our greenhouse gas adventurous.

E

Is like one or two percent right? It seems really heavy for people. I mean municipal yeah, so it's.

D

Got to be busy, I think it's probably businesses, isn't it business small businesses non-residential.

E

Small business there's gotta be more than 17., oh 17, plus 71. That still seems low right.

H

For the whole city, could it be single family, residentials are and general residential and or.

E

Like maybe multi multi-family is g. I guess we got to dig down on that. Yeah who's, the best person to.

E

Follow up with, we know I can see who kate's been working with and we can try it. Do you think that.

A

uh Yeah, I could try who we've been contacting. If you guys know someone better I'll, try that, but we.

E

Will it was a gentleman, the new hampshire guy who's aaron somebody aaron downing? I think his.

J

Name is yeah, I think he's the new hampshire supply relations guy that responds to these requests. If.

D

You don't get a prompt response like aaronson and darius's department. You know darius danyavi, yeah.

D

Head of basic service as a colleague of mine. So if you have.

D

If you have delays, let me know: okay, we'll get an expedite yeah. Well, they've been good. This is great.

B

But does did the numbers make sense that the 15 000 or so accounts for portsmouth for those.

B

Of you who are close to how many you know, counts that makes sense. I mean yeah well with the mailer.

E

Yeah, it was 12., so on the residential side yeah, I was just under 14 000. yeah, so that passes the.

B

Sanity church, yeah, 22, 000 residents and and the usage, which is what I'm more comfortable with, is.

D

In the ballpark, a total annual yeah the competitive supply customers use more than the.

H

The others greater incentive to migrate yeah exactly.

A

um We'll need to call eversource and.

A

Check in with ascend as well, but certainly we could clarify the rate code g with eversourced.

A

Kevin have you got alias on with us and we wanted to see how their data was sourced. Yeah I'll ask.

B

Samuel because I think samuel uh took what we gave him and passed it off to ascend so um but.

B

Maybe peter you could have kate check with eversource first just to and is that our earlier.

E

Data, not our our later official request. I think that was the earlier data yeah and then we had a.

E

Subsequent more formal request that went to them yeah and that's what this is. I think this is yeah.

B

um You know we could tie out the discrepancies by by next month.

B

And this is in the packet. I didn't see this one out. Okay, it's a page 92 of the packet okay.

B

Because I may just push this to samuel and ascend this spreadsheet, just to get them a little closer.

B

To I can send it to you separately, it's been sent to john okay great and they they should have the.

E

The actual response- because this is a summary of that right yeah- this is a summary.

E

But I can get it to you if you don't who, when you say they they should that.

E

Number, we just have to be sure we went to cpcnh as well. Oh and eversource responded.

B

They copied see percentage of them, yeah, okay, yeah, all right.

B

All right, thank you, yeah, but you could send that to me this afternoon. That'd be good sure.

J

A

A

Last time you had agenda was the aggregation plan. Next steps, we've talked about.

A

The survey and the public hearing we had a february 9 public hearings that um and.

A

We probably ought to set the data. The second one as well.

A

And that could be a week later. That could be two weeks later. I think it has to be a month.

B

Right does it? Oh, that's helpful to know yeah.

B

I think so, maybe that's why uh we had an our meeting dates of feb 9 and I think.

I

March date march, 9th.

A

So maybe that's our second hearing aid. uh What is the the cutoff date for people to enter the survey.

J

Just wondering how many responses you think we're going to have by the february 9th meeting.

F

I have a date on the postcard.

F

Don't think we have one on the survey itself that I can check and add whatever you want.

A

I was doing two weeks is that.

A

Put us right up to fed nine.

G

Probably please respond by february 9th.

E

Well, if you're gonna message it to the council of the public hearing, I guess you could just have.

E

A yeah live here. We just got the result, not off the presses. Maybe the eighth would be better yeah.

E

The eighth is probably of sunday, though. Well, if the ninth is a monday, usually it's a monday.

E

I don't know the eighth is a wednesday, oh so they're doing meeting on a thursday, okay, yeah good.

I

Oh, it's yeah. It's not a council meeting night, not a normal country. Do we have an.

A

In-Home d: oh it's just a public hearing; it's not a council of public hearing! Oh.

F

um We will, as soon as we give the green light to southport I'll get the in in home date. Okay,.

I

They go out by the 18th that you give people easily two weeks to respond more than two weeks.

B

And counselor we're going to check on uh henry herndon for at least the ninth right.

A

J

Let me just check again so just because we need to kind of work around his availability.

A

Yeah stephanie: let's.

A

Let's confirm henry have copied in the surveyed.

A

Okay document the online survey about that nine right.

A

B

And there's a standard deck right that we have yeah is that the first.

F

Document yeah, you've included it. It's there's a standard that needs to get.

B

Populated with our you know, just right, there's a few placeholders.

B

um But that's the the powerpoint presentation that they're using for the public hearings.

F

Yeah, so this is that and it's it was sent as the powerpoint, so we can fill in the blanks. I can.

A

Functions, those blanks the knee, comes and does the public hearing.

A

Is part of the presentation right with our logo.

B

Yeah, I think I think he's expecting us to to complete the deck okay yeah.

I

I like this, this is very informative. Actually.

I

This attack yeah and consistent with the graphics we've been showing people.

E

This this public hearing that is in the procurement wave one procurement, is so.

E

We'll have to do another public hearing when we get to our go, live yeah when you go live.

B

As part of the notification process, you have to do a final public hearing.

B

So there's three in total yeah.

A

With kevin, you know, we thought let's just keep moving along our our timeline.

A

So that we're in the best position by by mid-summer.

A

Working towards I mean I really like a 2023 implementation. If we can do it.

A

It would be tempting to to slow down, but.

A

On our timeline, we're ready for the best outcome.

B

It'd probably be early summer too, you know if we're, if you backed up from.

B

The dates you know we'd probably be going live in september. If it's a if it's a fall.

B

I'm just kind of thinking about how they do the rates are available in december.

B

So I I think, given the time clock, we would probably want to be ready and.

B

June time frame, I think I have everything buttoned up.

A

A

Just around the table, um thoughts on are we on the right path. What's key to success,.

A

Start with steve step.

F

I have the the marketing components ready were in line with our communications plan.

F

I've been very gratified on our behalf by the pr.

F

That this program is getting. I think that helps our messaging a great deal.

A

Thanks john peter, I really appreciate all the work stephanie's been doing. [Laughter].

E

But uh but we're plugged in and we'll keep keep moving. I think we're on looks.

E

Like we're on track to be where we want to be so it's good to hear it, it just reminded.

B

Me stephanie they're they're, doing like public relations, training for the wave one communities.

B

um That'd be interesting and uh I think cenh is supporting that so there's a bit of a training.

B

Program that the wave one communities are to help sell things. So eventually, you know we'll have that.

B

And um and I'll just keep this committee posted over the next few weeks as wave one communities.

B

Get closer just to kind of let you know that things are still moving along. If anything comes.

B

Up of interest I'll just drop the committee a note I should add on the clean energy new.

E

Hampshire piece we got authorized to join canada, hampshire as a community, so yeah we'll be members.

E

So that might help our getting that training yeah great and you know they are supporting.

B

Member engagement, so we have a contract with them to to work with henry on member engagement.

I

um I think we're really in a good place. um Things are proceeding along as expected.

I

um I'm excited to see how the rate setting goes upcoming um it'll be nice to to know kind of.

I

Where the first wave is headed, um but I wanted to say you know, this is the thing I get the most.

I

Questions about as a counselor, not not emails. You know people aren't emailing me saying we need to.

I

Do something about this? I, when I'm walking down the street the thing that my neighbors.

I

Asked me about is community power. People are excited about this, so I think we're on track.

A

Thanks for your help and work.

C

Yeah, I totally agree with uh council cook and I think also that.

C

um In some ways, this worldwide energy crisis has helped us too, because it's focused people.

C

On what can I do locally for myself, energy, wise or otherwise for climate change? And here we are.

C

We have a program where that's actually coming at people and saying here. This is something you can.

C

Do and you can do it locally and you'll benefit from it and you'll feel, and our young people who.

C

Have been involved in all kinds of activities will give we'll have an opportunity to probably.

C

Come up with new ideas for us to pursue too as a power community, so I think it's really.

C

Exciting- and I I thank everybody, especially kevin and john, who have been doing a lot of.

C

Work on behalf of our group here, but thanks to everybody yeah, I I'm very excited about it.

K

Then, when I first saw the project schedule, I was a bit intimidated and I you know shared.

D

With you, my you know, concern about the need for community engagement and public education.

D

And um some of the milestones I thought were relatively ambitious and what it appears like.

D

Is that several initiatives are moving in parallel and are coming together nicely and.

D

I think that the public outreach efforts and the communications plan we're in good shape for that.

D

The due diligence that kevin's doing I'm really impressed with the work that he's been sharing.

D

With us, I think that the analysis that the vendor has provided appears pretty sophisticated.

D

um And so I'm pretty excited. I saw counselor denton when he you know before. At the beginning,.

D

Of the meeting and several years ago, he and I worked together on the renewable.

D

Energy policy plan- and we talked about things that could really make a difference.

D

And at the time we talked about can't we just become our own power company and I explained to.

D

Him how complicated and expensive and challenging that is, but that this is better than that. We don't.

D

Have to own the poles and wires, but we're making a meaningful difference in the supply portfolio.

D

And um I'm really pleased and excited and optimistic about the trajectory the pace.

D

And the status, so um thank you to all of you that have been working really hard on this.

H

Yeah, so I feel pretty similar to ben um and kind of you know thanks kevin for all of.

H

Your work and I think for this committee and I think it will go beyond the committee, the level.

H

Of knowledge you bring to to us- and then you know, by extension out to the public and to the.

H

um Council, I think, gives a lot of people will help a lot in building confidence and just.

H

You know we know what this is all about, because you're right in the thick of it and it's really.

H

Exciting, I think of bert cohen, and you know how long he's been at things and and feeling.

H

The same way like this is really substantial, like I've been involved in a lot of things, but.

H

There's this is like to move as quickly as it has and to have so much impact. You know.

H

Real impact, but also, I think, just energizing everyone, it's really exciting. So thank you.

G

um I think that we've come together really well as individuals sharing our different areas of.

G

Expertise and that it has coalesced to move this product forward. It's a really good thing.

A

A

Pretty good expertise and skills that are brought to this will keep moving. Do we have.

F

Any public commenters um we have, we have no public in attendance, either live or to.

A

Mobile can engage them with the survey. That's helpful, I mean three. We have three surrounding.

B

Communities that are in wave one, so I would imagine there's going to be a fair amount of.

B

Pr that spills over from those communities in you know, seacoast.com and etc. So we'll.

B

Get some residual, I think, benefit just from rye. Durham, exeter are all part of wave one. So.

B

And dover too right! No, not, though, if there's no other business I'll entertain a motion to adjourn.

G

I'll make a motion to adjourn. Second, all in favor aye.

A

Thanks everybody have a good night. Thank you, counselor. Thank you.

E