City of Portsmouth, New Hampshire Planning Board, 15 Dec 2022

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12.15.2022 Planning Board

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Good evening and welcome to the december 15th 2012 meeting of the portsmouth planning board.

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We have a pretty extensive agenda this evening. First item on the agenda will be a presentation.

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Of the capital improvements plan and program, I just city manager will provide a brief overview.

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And then each department chair will present each section, I'm going to ask that everybody withhold.

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Their board members withhold their questions until after staff is finished, with their presentation.

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We will then open up a public hearing. Each member of the public will be allowed two.

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Three-Minute periods to speak with questions then we'll have possible.

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Answers from staff additional questions from the board based on public input.

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And closing of the public hearing just so folks at home understand this will probably be explained.

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It's in our packet, the role of the planning board in this process is advisory. It's much.

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Like the zoning amendment process and the master plan process and the capital improvements plan,.

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Is actually a part of the master plan, you can't do a capital improvements plan unless you have.

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A master plan in a city or a town so since the planning board is charged with thinking long term.

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That's how why we're here to work with staff and come up with a plan that we can recommend to the.

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Council for their consideration and adoption into the budget and shoot your ears planning.

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And with that, I believe the manager you're ready to present. We are thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you, mr chairman, and thank you to those who are in attendance this evening and watching on on.

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Remotely steph and I are pleased to present the proposed six years- capital improvement.

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Plan for fiscal years 24 through 29, I will run really quickly through these slides. They will.

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Remain on the website and then your packet, so that folks can easily reference them next.

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The cip is, first and foremost a planning tool that supports citywide capital investments. So looking.

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At a six-year time horizon next cip process truly is a year-round process after tonight's.

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Conversation recommendation we take this effort to the city council. There will be a work session.

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In january on january 18th there will be a public hearing february 6th and then the request to adopt.

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Will be at the march 6 city council meeting so that it can be included in the fy24 budget. But.

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This document and the conversation tonight does not include expenditure funds. It just talks about.

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Planning for funding expenditure next, this capital improvement plan is broken up into the following.

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Sections- and we will take the the conversation tonight through through those sections in that.

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Order next, at the back of the capital improvement plan, are helpful appendices that include a list.

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Of the citizen requests a list of state projects that have no dollars but will be done within city.

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Boundaries for folks reference, a list of all studies used in the evaluation of projects, a.

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Historic document, restoration index and a map of each of the city's five wards to show the projects.

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Within each ward, next, as you can imagine, this is a complex process and with numerous funding.

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Opportunities and funding sources, which include the general fund from the city special revenue.

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Funds and enterprise funds established by the city, both state and federal funds, as well as.

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Public-Private partnership funding opportunities next, so the current process so far for fy24.

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Includes a total of 107 discrete projects, 20 of which are new, 87 of which are carried over from.

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Last year and updated, as may be the need for both cost and timeliness and the breakdown by project.

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In order that we'll go tonight is is on the screen there. Next new this year is a was a conversation.

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And a separate meeting to speak to the citizen request received and in looking to highlight.

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The process which has been in place since february 18. this year yielded by far the biggest response.

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In 104 requests, 83 of which were unique, as you can imagine, there were some duplicate requests.

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48 were considered cip eligible or following the green track. 37 were determined to be better served.

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By another processor board or may have been funded previously or may not be the purview of the city.

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Next, so when you fund the cip, you can fund it two ways with cash as your pay as you go funding or.

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Capital outlay and then the next slide will speak to bonding, but on this slide, this is a reminder.

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That the city has used a long-standing policy to tie in capital expenditures from the general fund.

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To no more than two percent of the city's prior year, general fund budget and in the past seven.

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Cip cycles, this has fluctuated from a low of 0.78 percent in the current fiscal year, and that is due.

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To some funding that was taken off the cip capital outlay, from arpa to a high of 1.97 or just below.

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The two percent back in fy 17., so with the current uh or the prior year, which is 23 general fund.

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Budget of 132 million the capital la target for this coming year would be 2.645 million. However,.

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We are proposing the outlier, the capital outlay request, come in at 1.77 million or 1.34 percent.

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um You know what abby could you back up a slide? I just want to mention that when staff first started culling responses, we were seeing.

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Requests totaling over 4 million and knowing that was completely untenable.

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We manage that process and brought in the request down to a more manageable 1.77 million. Thank you.

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The other way to fund the cip through bonding and, as you know, bonded projects.

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Require a separate public hearing end vote of the council, so even if they're included in the.

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Cip and the budget, they still require that separate code hearing and vote in order to.

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um Take possession of bond funds the city's net debt service of the as a percentage of the general.

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Fund budget target is 10 percent and we can say that for this current fiscal year we are at 7.69.

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Percent projected for fiscal year 24 would be 8.82. Both numbers are well below the 10 percent. Next.

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The sheets or the element sheets, as we refer to them in the cip, have lots of information.

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That may or may not make make sense to the lay person, but we've tried to as as it says here,.

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Have each project id if you will tell a story, the the first two letters explain the project.

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Type in this cut, in this case, it's building an infrastructure. The next set of numbers.

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Talk about the year the project was originally submitted. The third component is the department.

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That submitted the project. In this case it would be pd for police department and then the project.

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Sequent in this year's capital improvement plan is the number that we chose for ordering.

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Next other helpful information on each element sheet include evaluation criteria. The funding.

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Requests and funding sources next, along with a project description, links to studies cited.

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Other pertinent websites other ways you can research this project and notes on major changes.

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To the funding or scope from previous years, if you've been following along for multiple years,.

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Next, this is my final slide. This reminds folks of the schedule we're here this evening for the.

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To run this by the planning board to seek public comment, but this will know by no means be the only.

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Public common opportunity there will be more, the planning board needs to vote, to recommend adoption.

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Of the cip to the council, the council will then hold a work session in january. Look at to hold.

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Another public hearing in february and adopt in march so that it can be included in the budget so.

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Without further ado, I'd like to turn things over to fire chief bill mcquillen, he will start us off.

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uh Thank you, city manager and thank you, members of the planning board to start.

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Off with project number, one is the ambulance replacement program, and this is a a regular.

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Replacement schedule for the city's fleet of ambulances next slide project number two is a.

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Vehicle replacement for a fire engine, this is a again an effort to try and keep our vehicle.

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Stock in a uh replacement schedule before they outlive their useful life in the next slide,.

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uh Project number three is uh to replace a tower liner on the outlying ears for a.

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Vehicle, that's uh will be in excess of 20 years old by the uh the time it's replaced.

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Next slide and then fire engine number six is also uh on the rolling stock program uh for.

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Its scheduled replacement next slide, our personal protective of clothing.

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um Replacement schedule: this is an effort to make sure that the protective bunker gear that.

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Our men and women wear is is kept up to date and they have a second set. That's uh within in.

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Standard they're required to be replaced every 10 years, and we we do our best to make sure that.

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Every five years we have a new set and that each firefighters issued two sets next slide.

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Yep, oh I'm sorry, scva. uh The uh the protective uh clothing also includes the uh the ensemble.

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Of the breathing apparatus and uh this uh um this program is to replace our breathing.

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Apparatus which is uh ending uh its useful life and uh is in need of uh replacement.

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As the hydra testing date on, the cylinders has uh has approached its uh useful end next slide.

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Cardiac monitors uh this program replaces the cardiac defibrillators and monitors in.

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Our ambulances and fire trucks so that uh we can deliver the proper cardiac care, as you.

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As you imagine, these pieces of equipment take a little bit of a beating as they go up and down.

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The road in vehicles and are are portable and lugged around at emergency scenes next slide.

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Good evening, president for the police department will be for body, worn cameras.

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2018 we did a had a resident committee formed to evaluate the pros and cons of body cams at.

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That time, a decision to purchase them was, uh we decided not to do it recently with our new police.

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Commission and a new resident advocacy group, they had review reviewed it again and based off.

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Of the governor's commission on law enforcement accountability uh task force, it's encouraged to.

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Get cameras so at this time we are putting a placeholder, we don't have a money item there.

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But just a placeholder for an out year of what the projected costs will be as we revisit and review.

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Possibly get danning body one cameras again uh good evening. Peter rice, director of public works.

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um This item is uh to provide monies for brian making machine brian is used as a pre-treatment.

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Prior to snow storms uh to help reduce the amount of salt, we use it's uh necessary for.

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Compliance with our municipal, separate storm sewer system permit or what they call an ms4 permit.

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uh This project is a new project this year to hire a consultant to look at the security system.

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And video cameras on the uh on all three city fire stations. The effort here would be to get.

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A consultant to report back as to whether to use the existing system within the city.

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Or whether to go out and obtain a different system to be able to ensure security and.

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Cameras for the buildings next slide. This slide is for we're in the process of trying to get a.

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New police facility- and this is uh a place marker for a land acquisition, if, if necessary, at this.

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Time we do not have a dollar amount, but it's a placeholder in case in our years we may need.

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One in a prior fiscal year we have allocated fifty thousand dollars for a site, location.

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Study which we are still currently using so at this time we're not requesting any fun foreign.

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Is actually for the facility itself and fy 24? We are not asking for any additional money.

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Out year would be fy25 would be the remainder 38 million uh in 2014. It was determined the.

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Facility doesn't meet the space and uh space needs of our police department and.

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Ever since then, we have been trying to work forward to getting a new police station.

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At fy 22, the council allocated 1.4 million for a preliminary design.

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Which we are currently still working on and fy 23. We also had an additional 2.8 million.

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Dollars to move forward with uh pre-construction documents that we're still currently working on.

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We feel that a question that was raised previously was.

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The price per square foot that when this was originally um came to that price of 42 million.

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Dollars it was price, was 290 a square foot. The current rate now is 500 to 575 dollars.

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A square foot so that number may go up due to cost of materials at the current time.

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This is a place, a request for fy24 for 400 000, for our current facility for.

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Maintenance that has been ongoing, we've had in the last couple uh fiscal years. I do the.

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Remediation and mold problems that we've had in the pd the majority of that money.

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Has gone to that mold remediation, so an fy 24! We are requesting additional 400.

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000 to actually repair the project and the projects we had originally planned to use a 400.

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000 forex for several years ago, so again that 400 000 is in our cip request for the foa 24.

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To make some repairs and changes in our courtyard since it was built in 2006, the trees have grown.

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Interestingly and raised part of the brickwork making it unsafe to use since 2021 we'd like.

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To swap out the way that it looks so that we can better use the entire courtyard for more outdoor.

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Activities we've noticed over the past three years, more demand for outdoor programming and.

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Pre-Covered we used it for a number of outdoor activities for families, some guitar concerts and.

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Things we'd like to make it more usable for that, as we fix the issues around the trees.

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Thank you good evening, nathan lonnie, I'm business administrator for your school department in the.

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Element 15: we speak to school facilities, capital improvements in the first year, 24. look for 550.

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000 that would break down between 300 000 for paving and 250 000 for roofing. The next slide.

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Provides a better breakdown over the course of the years. Fy 24 would begin a four-year effort.

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To address paving and roofing needs across the district, estimated at 1.3 million for paving and.

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One million dollars for roofing the first year would focus its paving work on the complex at.

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Dondero elementary school and the roofing work at the 1985 section of new franklin elementary.

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School in fiscal years, 25 and 26 and then into 27, the work would be done in paving and roofing.

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Primarily at portsmouth high school, it was a 2019 traffic study, completed that focused primarily on.

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The work that was done was primarily on the school entrance intersection at lafayette and andrew.

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Jarvis uh we anticipate review of that study and to identify parking changes, traffic flows and.

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Pedestrian walkway needs. uh Additionally, in the out year of 27, there are dollars for upgrades to.

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The athletic complex security, interior work and mechanicals next element 16 is a continuation of.

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The elementary schools upgrade we were carrying five million dollars to address needs at new.

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Franklin school interior replacement code, compliance that 5 million has been.

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Adjusted now to represent the three million dollar effort, starting in fiscal 26 and a.

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Phased effort in the out year of 29 for 2 million dollars. Additionally,.

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Next element: 17 speaks to the fit up of community campus space for our robert j lister academy.

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Currently, the school department is looking at a 1.5 million dollar project to replace windows and.

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Repair windows at dondero elementary and at little harbor that 1.5 million authorization is in place.

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School department anticipates uh requesting of the city council to repurpose those funds. They will.

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Seek the 1.5 million dollar window project through federal dollars and would instead repurpose the.

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1.5 to take care of fit outwork uh in the basement, if you will the lower level of community campus.

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Formerly occupied by families. First for the lister academy, this placeholder in fy 24 speaks to.

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Speaks to a two million dollar placeholder we're currently engaging jsa architects.

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They're working with staff and that building to contemplate what the project would be, what.

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The needs are how great the scope is, and then we anticipate coming back as.

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Soon as possible, with adjustments before the console acts, thank you.

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Judy belanger finance director and the first element she is. This state requires us to store.

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Certain records that are labeled as permanent in accordance with rsa 33a. We currently have a.

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Room located in the basement of city hall that was renovated in 2017, which is environmentally.

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Secure for these documents, this room houses records for many of the city departments. This.

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Room is just about at full capacity, and we are currently working on identifying another area.

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Elsewhere in the building to house more of our permanent records, there is no funding requested.

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For fiscal year 24, but requesting funding in the out in the out years for this project next.

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This is restoration of a historic documents. Several years ago, we found a couple of rooms.

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In the basement of the city hall that were full of approximately 1200 historic books that were stored,.

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Not stored properly, causing them to break down and become contaminated with mold. These books can date.

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Back to the late 1600s, but mostly 17 and 1800s, we began the restoration project about four years ago.

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Where these books were professionally scanned, cleaned repaired and pages were encapsulated. If.

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Necessary for the protection of these documents, funding for this project is shared 50 50 with.

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Finance in the city clerk's office, in october of this past year, the finance department was awarded.

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Its sixth consecutive moose plate grant of just over 9 600 from this new hampshire state library.

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Bringing the total grants awarded to forty six thousand ninety six dollars to contribute to these.

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Efforts, a full inventory of these books is located in appendix 4 of this document. The total cost for.

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Restoring the remaining books is approximately 2.3 million dollars to be funded over time.

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Next, the disposition of municipal records: this is a new request, beginning in fiscal.

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Year, 24 and would provide funds to scan permanent records that are actively utilized by staff. On a.

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Day-To-Day basis, so these are not stored in the basement. We would start with the property record.

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Cards and related information that are utilized by the assessing department there is currently.

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No backup of these records in the event that they are destroyed by an unfortunate event, food.

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Good evening, beverly zent planning director this funding, this proposed funding for land.

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Acquisition would be used to supplement the city's conservation fund, these the conservation fund, as.

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You know is generated through a change of use uh penalty, moving property out of conservation.

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And current use, which require requires a 10 percent uh penalty fee. We are seeing fewer.

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And fewer of those, the idea of this funding would be to supplement that funding for the.

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Next, two years to create a good two million dollar fund, we currently have one million.

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Dollars and then look for a project, not we don't have one currently identified right now, but look.

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For a project and then resume dedicating funding into this fund in fiscal year, 29. thanks. Please.

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This funding for historic district guidelines would allow for the up for us to update and.

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Expand the design guidelines of the historic district. This project should be informed by the.

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Master plan should corn correspond with the beginnings of that project. This uh historic.

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District design guidelines are used by the htc to issue certificates of approval and review projects.

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This next item trail development projects is of to.

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Create a connection across a wetland from the rail trail to the great bog.

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And allow a trail of visitors to visit that resource without damaging the wetland. Next item.

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I'll take this one. This sheet is a placeholder. The amount of funding is to be determined in the.

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Next immediate term, in the next couple of months- and we will inform that page accordingly, next.

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To monitor the impacts of a sea level rise and coastal flooding, the objective.

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Is to understand the flow of groundwater over time. This project will build on the coastal.

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Resilience, efforts of the state but on a more local level, putting sensors in wells next item.

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This project would help would fund the master plan update to these uh revisions to the plan.

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Are recommended every five to ten years? Our current plan um is a portsmouth 2025 and we are.

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Due for an update, this funding would allow for the development of a master plan and a robust public.

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Outreach component to that project that project we anticipate would be 18 to 24 months long.

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Require us to go ahead and get that funded next.

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Good evening, I'm todd henley recreation director. This first project is a new project since the.

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Indoor pool has been reacquired from sip or save the indoor portsmouth pool. This would.

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Create a capital maintenance plan with projects that would include locker room upgrades, family.

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Restroom, carpeting, etc. Major upgrades have been done recently at the indoor pool, so there is no.

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Fy 24 funding for this thanks. uh This is also another new project. This was a citizen request.

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And city request to create uh to replace the south mill pond playground and replace it.

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With an ada and age friendly playground, and also with that permanent restroom facilities, the fy24.

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Funding is a rotary club donation, but the rest of the project has been pushed to another year.

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This next project is a recurring project and this is to create upgrades to fields.

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And other recreation facilities such as tennis, courts, pickleball courts, etc. We.

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Have a current rec need study that will highlight opportunities in the future for.

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What this one will go towards and currently fy24 funding was reduced to 75 000.. Please.

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This next project is for the completion of the design and construction of the additional turf.

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Field off of campus drive at this point- it's been. This has been pushed off to an out here as well.

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Next, uh this is for the build out of the stump dump lot master plan or where the skate park.

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Is being built, the future phases include a pump track athletic field, playground, splash.

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Pad additional parking, walking paths, etc. Fy 24 money is anticipated fundraising from the skate.

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Park group and the the rest of the remaining project has been pushed out to another year.

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Next, thank you. This project is for funding for playground, improvements.

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In fy 24 aldrich park and the installation of a basketball area at plains, field is identified.

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Next, this project is for improvements and upgrades to leary field grandstands and.

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Concession area: it's showing fy25 money for design and fy 26 funding for the construction.

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This project is to request additional funds. We recently bid the aquatics.

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Portion of this of the pool upgrades and the bids came in high these additional.

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Monies are are projected to cover the additional costs for this work.

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uh The community campus was recently acquired by the city uh the 20 year old.

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Facility is in need of some maintenance, specifically this year, we're looking for.

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Two hundred thousand dollars for roof repairs uh to a portion of the building.

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uh The city is, um has a number of parks and that have monuments. um These these monies are.

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Identified to maintain those facilities as well as do improvements at the parks.

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uh The city is a tree friendly city tree city, usa, for over 20.

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Years and these monies go to that tree program.

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uh The prescott park master plan is a city council approved master plan that were in.

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The first phase of implementation, uh these monies are to help address that first phase.

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Additional revisiting will occur uh in terms of the overall master plan prior to the next phase.

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In addition to the master plan identified activities, these funds are to address ongoing.

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Maintenance activities at the park to include such things as roof stock repair things like that.

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The city hall has undergone a number of uh challenges relative to its heating and air.

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Conditioning system, these monies are identified to continue the renovations to the existing.

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System and in an out year, potentially replacing some of the major components.

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Foreign, this project identifies monies for upgrading the transfer facility over at the.

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The dpw, it would include uh an enclosed facility to allow us to consolidate loads uh to transport.

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Materials, I would also include a swap shop, which is something that's been requested by residents.

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The city maintains a number of historic cemeteries and these monies are identified and there's a list.

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Of projects on the next page for projects, so monies will be accumulated over time and each.

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Of these projects will be taken on as identified by the cemetery committee. The city has over 30.

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Retaining walls and these monies are identified to maintain and upgrade those retaining walls.

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The city's been working closely with the department of transportation to try to.

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Address noise concerns along the I-95 corridor. The state has indicated that the west side or.

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North side of the highway qualifies for sound barriers, but they did not determine the south or.

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East side of the highway to be eligible, these monies are to continue the effort.

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To see what the city can do on their own, we're currently working on a program with.

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Some interested residents to see how to to best address this concern and we will continue to.

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Work with the d.o.t to see if we can convince them that this should be an eligible project.

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The city has a number of facilities that they maintain. These monies are identified.

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For those maintenance activities and the next page shows those types of activities.

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um Ongoing effort to improve the reliability and aesthetics to the downtown.

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um Are shown here is the potential to bury some of the overhead utilities.

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These monies aren't out here and they would accomplish that activity.

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um City council requested that uh the ev charging stations be prioritized.

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um And money's allocated some of the monies are anticipated to be federal state monies uh to that.

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End uh cmac uh congestion mitigation, air quality uh grant has been submitted, uh an application.

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To secure some of those funds, however, there's additional matching monies and we are currently.

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Moving forward with some charging stations at the renovate recently renovated our bridge street lot.

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uh This project would be to fit out what we call the flex space in the new foundry garage.

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Currently, that space is um in in need of a significant investment to make it.

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um To be able to fit out the entire area and make it uh a functional office, space.

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And I need to, I want to note that those are not toxicologists. Those.

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Are our tax? Those are parking revenue monies that would cover those costs.

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um This final item uh in the building section uh is identified as a wharf.

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Replacement down along mechanic street, if you recall there was.

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A wharf there for a number of years which collapsed and was removed in.

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We recently rebuilt the retaining wall in that area. The sea wall in that area and the permit.

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Included replacement of the pier, however, there was not adequate funds and a public process.

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Really is is appropriate prior to finalizing that so these monies are identified to do that process.

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Good evening, I'm alan brady technology director for the city on this first page.

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You will see the 1 million uh 56 500 558, and this is for the complete it requests.

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The following pages of the breakdown of that amount of money, correct page, please.

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uh Request for computers and notebooks replacements following a four year cycle.

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Replacement a total of 127 computers and notebooks will be replaced between public.

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Works library, recreation, police and fire with a total cost of 159 000. like please, please.

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And the server replacements, two two police servers and one library server- are to be replaced with a.

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Total of forty five thousand dollars next page, please other technology, upgrades and replacements.

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You will see a breakdown for items for city-wide, public works, library and recreation. Next page.

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Please continuing on police fire and school are requesting various upgrades, as noted on.

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This slide, the police is continuing to appropriate for hardware upgrades to the dispatch center. Next.

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Please please- and this is a total breakdown of cost per department next page, please, this project.

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Is the expansion and the improvement of the city's network? It is the fund professional services to.

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Conduct a thorough network alice and to develop a strategic plan for the future next page. Please.

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Cyber security enhancements this project is intended to review the cyber security and it.

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Will specialize professional services to assist the city in creating a plan for improvements.

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Next page, please and document management system. This project is, is in the out years.

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And is aimed to create an easy, accessible online document management system with.

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The goal of digitizing existing paper records in all city departments. Thank you.

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uh The final project for the fire department this evening is uh is an I.t project that uh uses.

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Technology to open up the uh overhead station alerting devices at all three of the city's.

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Fire stations that generates from the police department's uh public safety dispatch center. This.

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Software upgrade is necessary as the current uh current hardware and software that we're utilizing.

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Is due to expire and no longer be serviceable, and this would also allow us some redundancy from the.

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The backup dispatch center and from the emergency operations center out at fire station number two.

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Next slide now, this next project is for our financial software upgrades and or replacement.

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And the current software that we have was implemented back in 2000. However, we've had.

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Several upgrades, obviously in the last 22 years, but it's time to begin the process to.

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Do some researching and implement a new system that will increase efficiency, productivity and.

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Better and to better service, the government and the city council and in the citizens next.

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uh This item identifies parking revenues to maintain uh the metered.

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And unmetered parking lots throughout the city.

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This item uses parking revenues to upgrade parking meters and display meters throughout the city.

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This project supports a future 3.6 mile corridor for the future seacoast greenway.

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The project cost estimates assume dot will be responsible for additional.

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Design permitting and engineering, as well as construction costs, to create a gravel.

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Trail base, this portion of the funding will fund the city's contribution. The.

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City's portion of the costs will include additional costs required to build a paved.

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Surface as well as some amenities, such as trail access areas and interpretive signage,.

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Next, thank you. This funding is for an annual set-aside to allow the city to be nimble and.

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Implement the bike and pedestrian uh plan uh network objectives, we anticipate updating.

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This plan in the next 12 months, we dedicate this funding yearly to look for opportunities.

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That occur throughout the year and also set aside funding to utilize and take advantage.

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Of those opportunities again, we hope to update that plan within the next 12 months.

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Sorry, this project would complete a link in the city's bicycle network and improve.

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Pedestrian connections by constructing a side path on one side of market street between kirsarchway and woodbury avenue. Please.

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This project calls for the construction of a 10-foot side pass on each side of route.

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1 in the available dot right-of-way next, please.

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This project supports the us, run u.s route, 1 side path, project. It includes the addition of.

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Ada compliant sidewalks and pedestrian signals to cross lafayette at campus drive ellen.

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Road heritage avenue ocean road, longmeadow, road, wilson, road and white cedar boulevard.

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Next, please, this project will provide safe pedestrian connections and traffic.

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Calming through elwyn park neighborhood, a feasibility study has been completed.

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Using prior capital year funding next, please.

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Now this project could will construct a new multi-use path along borthwick avenue. The.

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Path would start at route 1 bypass intersection with borthwick avenue and hodgdon way and travel.

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Approximately 2 400 miles along borthwick avenue. You may recall that this project.

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Will be connected to the uh the multi-use path constructed as part of the hospital satellite.

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Parking lot improvement project that was before this board not too long ago next place. uh This.

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Item is a continuing continuation of the way finding system uh using parking revenues.

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This next phase would be addressing uh pedestrian um and and bicycle wayfinding.

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This item was identified in the in the bicycle pedestrian master plan, uh as as the planning.

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Director mentioned uh we'll be revisiting that master plan and confirming the appropriateness.

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Of this section, however, this money's in and out year are identified for that activity.

K

This project introduces new funding and capital funding in and out year to fund both a study for.

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Market square upgrades, the study would we already have funding set aside for the study, we're asking.

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For an additional 50 000, because we recognize the importance of that public outreach component in.

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Our work and making sure that we get that vision right, so the fifty thousand dollars would be to.

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Supplement that funding and the million dollars uh in subsequent years would be to fund the capital.

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Improvements identified as part of that study. Next, please, uh these monies identify are identified to.

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Complete a section of sidewalk from uh from odeon point road to the um to near the the sagamore.

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Bridge um the there's, a development that's occurring along that way, which may reduce this.

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Required amount, um however, in the in the short term, I would recommend uh leaving this dollar.

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Value and when we go to bond it, uh adjust it based on what we know. The need would be at that time.

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uh This item is a typically a biennial appropriation of.

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Monies for the set the 75 70, roughly 75 miles of sidewalks throughout the city.

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um In an effort to uh stay within uh 10 uh of the uh the expenditures, uh we've shifted, the.

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Program a little bit uh to push it out to 28. uh fund 24 and then push it out to 28..

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um So there's a list of outstanding or backlog of projects on the next page. um The next item.

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Is identified for maintenance or upgrades to traffic signals throughout the city? uh We like.

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To accumulate funds to be able to put towards upgrades the next upgrade we're anticipating. I.

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Will be at the miller middle intersection, uh the traffic signal there [applause].

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Similar to the traffic signals, we identify monies for intersection improvements throughout the city.

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The market russell intersection has been identified for upgrades.

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This project will look at a number of alternatives. Those will include.

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Traffic signals, in addition, we'll look at uh the appropriateness of the roundabout at this location.

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The state has identified uh railroad crossing upgrade and these monies.

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Would would augment what the state allocates in their 10-year plan.

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The city owns 15 bridges. These monies go towards the upgrades and maintenance of those bridges.

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uh The kate street bridge is a red listed bridge. We are anticipating replacing that assuming the.

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Funding is available in 25, uh we'll be moving forward. The upgrade of that a replacement of that.

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Bridge uh the core the coakley borthwick connector, roadway is in is anticipated and identified.

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um If the cottage street, intersection or signalization is eliminated and right turn.

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Only from that location, the folks that live in the coakley area would need an alternative.

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Means to get to uh the north lane and this connector is identified for that.

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uh Traffic calming's been requested by a number of neighborhoods. These monies.

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Are identified to address some of those concerns.

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Similar to the sidewalk program, we identify paving monies. These monies would go towards.

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Addressing uh the pavement management um for the city next page has a list of backlog projects.

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Similar to the citywide roadways, we're responsible for the roads at the peas.

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International development tradeport- these monies specifically for fy24, would go to.

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Upgrades on the corporate drive section of the area, which is in in failure at the moment.

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And a list of other projects- uh four p's are identified here. uh Junkins avenue is.

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Identified as needing upgrade it's an out year project, this would include sidewalks along the.

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um The south, no pond, in addition to improvements to the culverts and drainage in that area,.

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uh Pinehurst road improvements have been requested by the residents. These monies.

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Would go towards those improvements similar to the madison street roadway neighborhood.

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Has requested improvements and these monies would go towards those improvements, foreign.

N

Goetz, deputy director of public works uh usually for enterprise funds. Our city engineer is with.

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Me to do the sewer that position's been vacant for a few months. We have a new city engineer.

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But it's his fourth day on the job, so he gets a pass this year. uh Peter will step in and speak.

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To some of the sewer items, the first item- annual water line replacement, we bond a million dollars.

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Of money to fund uh water line replacements every two years, the million dollars and that.

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Goes towards rehabilitation of older pipes during a construction of roadway improvements. Next slide.

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The well station improvements we continuously are working at the our well stations to improve so.

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This monies go towards efficiency, improvements of pumps and building facilities for the wells.

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Next slide reservoir management. This money is uh earmarked for improving the dam structure, design.

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Construction of the outflow devices and water quality improvements next slide. The groundwater.

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Source this monies for the finalization of collins well ii, which has been drilled and is currently.

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Under the permitting process, with the ds and once that is complete, we'll finish design and these.

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Monies will go towards the infrastructure, piping and equipment to equip that well site next site.

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uh The uh lafayette um constitution, road uh tank um is uh in need of some upgrades and.

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Monies here will be for design bidding and then anticipated construction of improvements in fy, 27.

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Next slide, uh the madbury water treatment facility is over 10 years old. Now these bunnies here are.

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For some of the larger equipment that will, we anticipate replacement of pumps and some filter.

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Media replacement and other water pumps next slide. This is a new project anticipated pfas.

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Regulations established by epa, we anticipate any day now that they will start promulgating. Some.

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Regulations- and we currently are anticipating a potential need to filter and treat the greenland.

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Well, so these monies are for that next slide. This is a new project. The dover water, emergency, air.

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Connection we've we've been working with dover for a number of years now and currently our indesign.

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We have 223 thousand dollars between the two of us that has been earmarked as a grant from.

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The seacoat from the groundwater commission and that monies is currently being used to design the.

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Putting a pipe on the last bridge, which will be the bicycle pedestrian bridge across the.

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Across the the water there and we'll interconnect, the dover and portsmouth water systems, which is.

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Actually, a regional project which would link every system north of the dover section with.

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Everybody south all the way down to seabrook. We currently have earmarked 3.45 million dollars.

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From congressional appropriations, so this money is the 25 percent contribution for.

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Us for our side of the uh the pipeline and dover concurrently would fund the other side.

N

Sewer uh again just like water, we do sewer main replacements and this million dollars.

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Again, bonded and as part of the water and roadway projects, we would be doing uh sewer mains as well.

N

This item identifies addresses aged equipment, some new permit requirements and additional.

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Capacity needs we're, anticipating a uh apportionment of you know a little bit.

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More than 50 percent to the private entity, but this is uh really a a project. That's evolving in.

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um We are anticipating that uh we're implemented so we're in design right now and we anticipate.

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Having better numbers, but it is driven by regulatory requirements as well as aging equipment.

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um Moving forward the uh the wastewater reuse project, this is a again a project.

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To identify additional water sources, and this uh a few years back, there was a study to look.

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At using reuse of the wastewater discharge for non-potable uses such as cooling and irrigation,.

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And this project is anticipated to move forward as part of the peas upgrades and would address.

N

Getting some of that potable reuse, water or non-potable reuse, water from that facility.

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uh The city has a what's called the combined sewer system, which means both stormwater and.

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Sanitary sewage are conveyed in the same pipe uh working with the epa. We have a program called.

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The long-term control program- uh it's called long term- for a reason they anticipate you.

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Know many years to implement it because it took hundreds of years to create our storm.

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Water and sewer systems, so they understand that it takes a while to un unwind all that.

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These monies are identified to address the long-term control plan um and we'll continue.

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On for a uh the number of years to come into compliance with the water quality requirements,.

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This item identifies monies for our 20 uh to address some of our uh challenges.

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On our 20 pumping stations throughout the city, um the next monies that we're anticipating on this one will be going towards evaluating uh the.

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Piping system out of the deer street pumping station, which conveys our uh water from the.

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Wastewater from the northern portion of the city and- um and it will be addressed in and out here,.

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The woodbury avenue sewer separation is there's a small section of combined sewage sewer line.

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uh Near the rockingham road or avenue this will be done in coordination with a traffic.

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Calming project that we're anticipating being doing next year on woodbury avenue.

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uh This item addresses the private connections.

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um As part of the sagamore avenue sewer extension program, uh the city council.

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Recently approved well recently, a few months ago approved approximately uh 1.2 million dollars.

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Which got added to the previous monies uh to address 39 homes, there's roughly 90 homes, total.

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So these monies would be used to continue that connection uh to the private properties over time.

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uh This item is shown as a placeholder. The mechanic street pumping station is.

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Currently being upgraded to extend the life of the existing pump station, however, we're.

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Anticipating within the next 10 years, needing to do a major overhaul or replacement of the.

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Station and the property adjacent to it, which is the old lacava building.

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Is going to be used for that activity, so we will that property is, is needs to be.

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Maintained in in use that would not preclude the use of a future pumping station location.

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uh This last wastewater item is uh to continue improvements at the pierce.

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Island treatment plant, uh the money's identified for fy25 are to add a third.

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Dewatering press, which is what takes the solids that are removed from the wastewater.

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Treatment, the wastewater is treated and then compresses all the water out of it.

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So that when we dispose of it, we have as light as possible and therefore it reduces.

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The cost it also reduces the size and volume of the material that needs to be disposed of.

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We have a number of what we call combined projects. The first one is the fleet street.

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Utilities upgrade and streetscape project this project initially started out as a single phase.

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However, as part of design, it was determined that additional stormwater drainage capacity.

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Was necessary so in fy 24 money additional monies have been requested to extend a drain line out to.

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The north mill pond we're currently in discussion uh with property owners over there in that area.

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To secure easements, but this project is necessary prior to the fleet street itself, getting rebuilt.

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So it's enabling work, uh the edmund avenue areas of water, sewer and roadway project.

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Recently, residents have requested and the project was amended to include a sidewalk.

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Along one side of that roadway, so you'll see additional monies this year identified in that.

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The city-wide storm drainage improvements program annually, requests monies to for.

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Continuous upgrades to our stormwater system, these monies are identified here.

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Chapel street is in um has been designed, and it is, is ready to go to construction. However, there's not.

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Adequate funding for it. This would replace water and sewer from daniel street up to bow street.

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um The roadways in rough condition- um and it needs to be a complete rebuild, needs to.

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Be done, however, the water and sewer are right that need to be addressed. First.

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um The dpw complex houses, water and sewer, as well as the highway functions and other.

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Other functions uh the what these uh this project is being funded by the water and.

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Sewer divisions to provide additional garage capacity for equipment that needs.

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To be housed indoors over the winter time and to to better maintain that equipment.

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uh This item is a creek neighborhood reconstruction project. If some of you may.

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Recall recall that the mcdonough neighborhood had a series of projects done uh to upgrade.

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Water sewer and streetscape, this is a similar type of approach that would be going and doing.

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A portion of the neighborhood at a time and that's what these monies are identified for.

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The islington street project has been ongoing since 1997.. We are in the last.

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Stage of this project, the project was bid and we did not have enough funds to complete the.

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Last phase of the project, so these monies are identified to complete the last phase. We have.

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Broken that last phase up into two parts we'll be going to from dover to cornwall this coming.

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Year and these monies would take it all the way to congress street at the end of that.

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uh Union street is a sewer separation project, that's being required by the epa.

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This project is anticipated to go out to bid.

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um This spring, with the anticipation, once funding is available to start the project, and it would.

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Do a sewer separation as well as streetscape improvements and water improvements in that area.

B

That is it, mr chairman,.

A

Thank you I forgot to mention. There was a planning board subcommittee meeting with.

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The manager and staff last week we did spend several hours going over this, so it's not the.

A

First time we've seen many of these figures. Any questions by board members at this point.

O

Jim, um I have a few, can I just I have a few. Can I just go continuously.

A

I'll, let you know if you need to stop okay. Thank you. My first question is for chief mcquillen.

G

Right here I'm gonna get him there.

P

Hi um I understand the kate street bridge over houston brook is, is uh posted correct for three.

P

Times now does that affect your ability to cross that with your equipment uh it does we.

D

uh We avoid that bridge okay, so none of your equipment can cross it correct all right does.

P

That do you feel that affects response time to some people in that area, uh that again, that that.

D

Bridge is on uh that neighborhood and that bridge are are known to us. So we we tend not.

D

To use that that area as a response route, it's residential right- uh we prefer not to.

D

um But it could okay, I just I'm trying to gauge how um critical it is for your response times.

P

The people in that area like are they in danger because this bridge is posted or do you feel.

P

It's a reasonable risk. I think it's a reasonable risk. We can certainly use uh uh the other avenues.

D

Around around that neighborhood to get in and out of it, okay, all right! Thank you. Thank you.

P

uh My next would be for uh chief newport.

P

Outside chief, I noticed uh on your explanation for the new police department.

P

Facility there's there's two segments: there's the building in the land. Yes,.

P

um There's 38 million scheduled for next year's cip for the construction.

P

Of the building, but the land is, is not listed having any money. So I was curious.

P

Is there some piece of land you have in mind or how can we really plan on a new facility if we.

P

Don't have any land lined up so, as I had stated, we already have. We had fifty thousand dollars.

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Allocated from previous cip- and we also have an additional 1.4 million, which is approved in fy 22,.

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And fy 23 is 2.8 million, so we have enough startup funds to move forward where the process now of.

F

Selecting a design firm and once we have a design firm, we'll work on uh finalizing the location, okay,.

P

But you don't have any locations in mind right now, there's no, we have good locations or we.

F

Have several different locations but we're waiting for a design team to help us pick. What's the best.

F

Location and then also we'll also go to the public input as far as what locations are.

F

Available and recommended okay, so these potential locations would be at no cost of the city.

F

Potentially uh there there are other locations that could be out across the.

F

City, that's why we have this place marker in here in case there's some property.

F

That the city would have to purchase for a new police station. Okay, thanks.

P

I guess my next would be for uh peter rice.

P

Up peter the sound barriers project.

P

um I heard you say that there's two sound barriers scheduled for the.

P

Southbound, lane of I-95 between pan away manor and and then woodbury to maplewood.

P

Correct, I yeah, I believe I said the north or west side. Well, it's a southbound lane um southbound.

G

Lane sure, okay uh and it's it's actually uh the entire corridor uh from pan away up to.

G

um I believe it goes past, maplewood all the way up to uh market. I believe, okay, I noticed in the.

P

um Element sheet: the city has already allocated 250 000 for uh for sound barriers, correct and.

P

I was wondering, if could that possibly be used to build a barrier for the new franklin school.

P

In conjunction with the dot projects, yeah that I I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear: that's what.

G

That's what we were planning on exploring, so we have reached out to um the dot and we are asking.

G

To be allowed to do that, however, they've indicated so far that because of federal requirements and.

G

Because they determined it was not eligible that we could not build on their property, so we need to.

G

Explore whether it's appropriate to build on city land and what that would entail so the first step.

G

In the process is to work with the sound engineer which we're we have an engineer that we we work.

G

With um and we're going to be doing a sound study to start that process uh staff met with unh.

G

Just recently uh to explore alternative approaches to sound barriers and specifically addressing the.

G

New franklin school area was was why we were doing this so peter representative, samsich and.

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Former mayor bob lister uh and the eric eby met with unh last week or the week before, to explore.

G

That so the intent was for to use those two uh 200 000 to help leverage that and move it forward.

G

Okay, so next year, when this project is being built, dot will not have any involvement with the new.

P

Franklin sound wall is that correct. That is what they've indicated to date. Okay, we have a request.

G

In them to reconsider that, and we anticipate having discussions, uh we have not given up.

G

um I wouldn't say hope, but we're not going to let down pushing them to reconsider.

P

Okay, thank you and I have another one for you regarding the peas wastewater treatment facility.

P

I see there's uh 65 million dollars or the cip and about half of that with a.

P

Private partner, who, who is that private partner? That's alonso biologics, okay,.

P

um Now are they obligated to pay this in the municipal services agreement or how this number.

P

Come about uh this number came about through apportioning what was necessary for upgrades.

G

To aged equipment and regulatory compliance versus what we felt was attributed to their needs.

G

Okay, so is it fair to say that this upgrade is needed because lonzo is expanding? No.

G

Okay portion of this project is necessary, but there are aged equipment and regulatory.

G

Requirements that will require an upgrade, whether lonza, whether we expand for lonza or not.

G

All right, that's why you see 30 million dollars uh in expense associated with that.

G

Project, so if lonzo wasn't expanding, would it still cost 65 million.

G

I don't believe that would be the case all right. Well, um I'm very pleased lanza is kicking in so.

P

Much money, but I it'd be really helpful if they put in even more, as you know, we.

P

Have some of the highest sewer rates in the state and we could help use all the help we.

G

Can get sure sure I appreciate that and, as you can imagine, there has to be a rational nexus.

G

Relative to how we charge that or it'll be open for challenging legally right right, I understand.

P

uh Peter, maybe I think you can answer this one also it has to do with the dover uh water emergency connect. I'll have brian address that okay.

P

Oh, I'm sorry, brian, yes, sure.

P

There's been some, I think, misconceptions about this interconnect. That's not meant to.

P

Be a redundant line for the the main water line coming from the madbury treatment plan. Is that.

P

True correct: it's it's a totally separate project, totally separate projects. The line running under.

N

Little bay is a transmission main. That's from our water system, from madbury to the newington.

N

Booster, this pipeline would be a connection of the distribution systems between the the two.

N

Systems, the portsmouth and dover okay, so it's not meant to be a backup or redundant, or this new main.

P

Line to fail, no it it's it's an interconnection so that there's backup and ability, essentially.

N

Mutual aid between dover and portsmouth for the the entire region- okay, it's it's the last pipe.

N

Connection from seabrook all the way up to rochester all right, I just wanted to clarify.

P

That, because I think, there's some people think it's the backup for the new line which it's not.

P

It's designed for completely separate operation, correct. Thank you yeah, all right thanks! That's it.

P

Yes, andrew, I just have one question for the city planner in beverly in regard to the pedestrian.

Q

Bicycle implementation. um You had said that it's not necessarily fixed and so over the.

Q

Next 12 months, it'll be decided what that may look like, and it seems as though there's fifty.

Q

Thousand dollars over the next six fiscal years, earmarked um in the event that over.

Q

The next 12 months it comes to light that more has to be spent. How will that be approached.

K

Plan update is that what you're talking about yeah, okay, so is, um I might let peter.

K

Answer that question so realistically we're not going to start that program until funds.

G

Are available so start, it really would start after july, one uh to go out for slizz proposals.

G

um If a project showed up and we were unable to fund- and it was appropriate to get that.

G

Know something the council requested. We would request additional supplemental appropriation.

G

To be able to cover that project, however um oftentimes we leverage monies and we we look.

G

At combining funds, when we do projects- and we may be able to accommodate um you know minor.

G

Upgrades relative to bicycle amenities within an existing framework of funding and I believe.

Q

The money for those proposals is already set aside. Is that right? It is not at this point.

A

Any other questions can I get one more. I've got one okay, I'm not sure if this would be the manager.

A

um You had a few placeholders and I thought it'd be helpful if you could explain what.

A

That means it's not a blank check. I assume correct um and again, given that this is a.

B

Planning tool, the idea is to leave pages for both police facility and mcintyre project.

B

For when we have an appropriate and reasoned firm cost estimate, we understand that, for both.

B

Projects, those are both in the works and when we are able to bring them forward, we will do.

B

So, and if that happened, there would be the need for new public meetings and that sort.

A

Of a thing right, given that we have a public, we have a work session with public comment.

B

In january, before the council, as well as the public hearing on in february on february, 6th.

A

So what this does then is: it facilitates the process of not holding up the budget.

A

For lack of having a place to put that number exactly that's a good way to put it yes, okay,.

P

Yes, uh wait. Oh councilman had a question. Sorry, it's all right. I.

R

Was letting other people ask first, they might ask some of my questions.

R

um I'm just going to start with a type of for abby on page 85 number 26 under the parking.

R

Revenues, you have two thousand five hundred percent instead of 25. I caught that. Thank you.

R

um For mr brady, I'm just curious. You have asked for 50 000 for security under it is.

R

That actually going to be enough, uh it's just uh we're gonna we're gonna find out. So it's hard to.

M

Actually put a dollar figure on it until we've done the you know, we've done the project, so we.

M

Didn't want to guesstimate in this case scenario, so and that's the reason why we.

M

Just you know we just added the 50 000 right, uh mr getz, is there a chance there'd be more.

R

um Grant funding for that line between dover and portsmouth the emergency line.

R

That we're working on yes, we'll we'll continue to seek that out. um That's our intent, excellent.

R

um How close are we, and I don't know if peter or you want to answer this? How close are we to.

R

Getting done this sewer separation project in the city, I know we've been working on it for many many.

R

Years, I'm just curious, like percentage-wise, are we halfway? There? Are we three quarters away there.

G

um We're more than three quarters of the way there. Yes, the the challenge, though, is you need to think.

G

Of it as an exponential curve that the as you get to the lesser and lesser it becomes harder.

G

And harder and it becomes more and more expensive, so a lot of the low-hanging fruit has been taken.

G

Up so it's a matter of meeting water quality at the end of the day, and you know we know that and.

G

That's why they call it a long-term program. You know they unders. The regulators understand that.

G

It takes time to implement these things, and um you know that's that's where we're at um one more.

R

Question, if you don't mind about the pierce island plant, uh you have some large amount of monies. You.

R

Talked about a project for that are those projects, because the original facility that was built isn't.

R

Capable of doing what we needed to do- or I guess what is the reasoning for these new projects in a.

R

Place that was just built so the um as part of any project. We do value engineering and the long-term.

G

Need identify three: what they're called they're called inclined screw presses and so literally.

G

What they do is they squeeze the water out of this material and the initial projections based on you.

G

Know projections was that the feeling was that two presses were adequate and therefore, as a value.

G

Engineering exercise we put blind flanges, we we piped it, have everything ready and left with the.

G

Third, one out now that we have a number of years of experience, rel, you know running the operations.

G

We've determined that having a third one would be beneficial, because if one of the two go out.

G

It becomes very challenging to continue to process all the solids, so this is anticipation that you.

G

Know because of the amount of the volume of solids or the amount of solids we generate, and we and.

G

We press this addresses that and gives us more flexibility and a little bit of redundancy, so we.

G

Don't um we don't worry about a piece of equipment failing yeah it just was brought up last night at.

R

City council, that maybe that facility wasn't built big enough to handle, so I just wanted to make sure.

R

We were clear that it is big enough. This is just yeah, it's more than adequate. It's it's really.

G

A solid processing exercise- and it was it- was a value engineering exercise not putting that there.

G

Is space already there it's oh! It was anticipated that we'd be putting this in at some point and you.

G

Know, based on the performance part of it, too, is that you know we're being asked to perform at a.

G

Higher level than required um and that, therefore, when you, when you perform at a higher level, you.

G

Generate more solids, so that's that's part of it great. Thank you very much. I'm not here.

S

Hi, I'm not sure who this would go to, but it's really related to the um traffic and safety.

T

Well, we'll hear your question so in the in the cip was a um slide related to excuse me.

S

Requests for traffic and safety neighborhood calming traffic program. That would be me.

S

Oh and aldrich and uh middle street and bartlett street neighborhoods yeah.

S

Missions in the cip from uh in the south end for pleasant street and marcy street.

S

Due to traffic and safety related issues, since they didn't, I think they were pushed into being.

S

Solved in a different method outside of the cip, is there a way to um for those neighbors to to submit.

S

Into this program yeah, I believe the response was that it should start with the parking traffic.

G

Safety committee and then that it would get into the queue relative to the. um In addition to those.

G

Neighborhoods you identified there's additional years of monies and that was anticipated for.

G

Community for the other neighborhoods as they came in through the parking traffic and safety.

G

Committee um to be able to implement those things, so the the response to the resident request was.

G

That you should reach out to the parking traffic and safety committee. Thank you. Yep.

P

Okay, mr rice, this is my last one. I promise I won't hold you to it. I will [laughter].

P

It's uh russell and market intersection yep. I noticed on previous years cips it was shown as.

P

A roundabout and costing about a half a million dollars sure, and this year it's back to a y.

P

Intersection and it's jumped to 2.2 million yep and uh it doesn't appear, dot is involved anymore.

P

With helping us fund that correct and uh the developer's share has gone from 21 down to five.

P

So I'm just curious, I guess you've answered everything except the developers share. Well,.

G

First of all, the it's an intersection project and the past use of a roundabout was one option.

G

That was shown based on feedback. We got from the subcommittee. uh We felt that that identifying one.

G

Option over another was inappropriate at this time because it needed to be uh gone through. You know.

G

Public vetting, as well as the design process to to thoroughly get our hands wrapped around that.

G

um The the reason it was brought forward and the change in the in the price associated with it.

G

um Was in part due to you know, the past estimates were were based on other developments and weren't.

G

Tied to current developments uh so based on the current development going on it was that number.

G

That share was adjusted to be more reflecting of what was available for monies. um The you.

G

I believe you all are looking at a project tonight that is identified some easement space.

G

um To be able to facilitate a potential uh option, which would would probably be um if it was gone.

G

Forward would need um additional space to divert traffic during construction so to not preclude.

G

The ability to do a roundabout if it was so chosen, that's why that that easement was identified. The.

G

You know relative to why it's five percent now it's just like the the funds were not available.

G

And the idea was to move forward with this project um relative to that. uh The two russell.

G

I believe is the project. Okay, that's why it's been brought forward. So decision was made to forego the.

P

Dot contribution of like 1.2 million because of time, I'm not familiar with the dot contribution.

G

um To that project um I don't recall um there may have been an application in at one time to.

G

Get dot monies for it, but I in in you know correct me, you know, show me where those um it may have one.

G

Year may have been identified that way, but I'm not aware of any potential dot monies for that.

P

I I believe it's in the 10-year plan, this year's 10-year plan for 2029. So maybe that's.

P

Why it's it's an out year, but they were out. They were committed to one point: something million.

U

Okay, um but I guess long and short of it is the design hasn't been finalized. It could be around.

P

About it could be a y intersection with a signal it could be a it could be a teed intersection.

A

Any other board comments or questions.

A

I'm going to open up the public hearing.

A

um As I said at the beginning, each speaker will have three minutes, so anybody wishes to speak.

A

Ask questions come up to the podium, identify yourself. Your address, please, for the record.

V

My name is dixon turner. I live at 1020 woodbury avenue, which, right at the junction of maplewood.

V

And woodbury and in august of 2021, I sort of audited the speed of traffic traveling along.

V

Woodbury the speed limit's 25, the average speed was um or 50 percent of the cars were.

V

Going 30 to 34, 23 percent were going 34 to 39 and 5 out of 104. Cars were actually 40.

V

To 45 so at that point I wrote a letter um to the city, council and parking and traffic.

V

Safety committee, and and spoke of the traffic and safety committee regarding those issues.

V

um The only outcome of that was the the one radar monitoring sign was moved from where it.

V

Was obstructed by tree limbs to a position where it was more visible? So now, if I walk down to the.

V

End of my driveway, I can actually look and see what the speed of cars are. Now. That's traveling.

V

South toward the traffic circle, there is not a monitor the other direction. The average speed.

V

Is 32 to 35 miles per hour? I still regularly see cars going 40 miles an hour so that it would urge.

V

Some funds being included to help mitigate speeding in that area and improve safety.

V

um Two weeks ago, a car coming up maplewood and had apparently 65 miles an hour went right across.

V

Woodbury took out a section of our neighbor's fence, narrowly missed the building and totaled.

V

One of his cars in the driveway and there was such force that a granite mailbox post was thrown.

V

Through the air and smashed their front door, so that's boarded up at the present time now they are.

V

Actually, building a stone wall, front protection barrier because they're afraid that might happen.

V

Again so again was just hurting urging that some funds be included to help improve safety.

V

And mitigate the speeding in the frank jones farm and creek neighborhoods. Thank you. Thank you.

G

Mr chairman, if I may um there's five hundred thousand dollars already appropriated uh for.

G

That activity, a design is uh currently underway with the anticipated construction uh next summer.

G

uh The design has gone before initially before the parking traffic and safety committee and we'll be.

G

Going back before the traffic and safety committee before it's finalized, thank you very much.

A

W

Thank you, mr chairman, and planning board members. My name is barbara mcmillan. I'm.

W

84 hillside drive, I'm also chairman of the conservation commission, and I am.

W

Here to speak on behalf of the conservation commission in favor of the land acquisition.

W

Fund under buildings and infrastructure at the september 14 2022, portsmouth conservation.

W

Commission meeting the commission voted to request 500 000 land acquisition item.

W

Be funded for the purchase of conservation, land and or easements in the fy 2023-2028, cip,.

W

For the last several years, the commission has worked closely with city staff to identify and.

W

Prioritize undeveloped properties that follow recommendations from the 2020 open space plan.

W

The open space space plan is a comprehensive plan following the 2010 study called the portsmouth.

W

Public undeveloped lands assessment and the plan, the open space plan included public plat.

W

Process to research and prioritize additional undeveloped land for protection provide land.

W

Stewardship guidance for existing open space lands and identify opportunities.

W

To expand connectivity between existing open space assets, neighborhoods and trails.

W

The plan also considers integration of climate resiliency objectives as they relate to open.

W

Space and having funds available to respond to conservation land opportunities as they become.

W

Available is crucial to implementing the plan and implementing commission and city staff follow-up.

W

Research and planning as a sustainable community, there are the following additional benefits to.

W

Securing these funds for conservation lands preserving ocean space has been one of the primary.

W

Concerns of the citizens of portsmouth and is prominent in the master plan. Open space provides.

W

A balance for increasing density of development and urbanization occurring in portsmouth.

W

Purchasing land for conservation is the only shore method to permanently presumably preserve.

W

Land for our future generations and we would be able to leverage those limited existing current.

W

Use conservation, land funds and grant funding and conservation land can improve air and water.

W

Quality support reductions in greenhouse gases and provide habitat that supports biodiversity.

W

Maintaining this line item in the cip is an action to keep our environment healthy and.

W

Sustainable for residents of portsmouth now and in the future. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

E

My name is monique turner. I live at 1020, woodbury avenue.

E

um Our property is right in front of the crosswalk.

E

um And people, don't I mean they speed and they don't pay any attention. There's a a button. You.

E

Push and it flashes and several people have almost been hit because nobody stops for those.

E

Flashing lights, so um I'm also concerned about speed on woodbury avenue. Thank you. Thank you.

X

Good evening board members justin richardson um 586 woodbury avenue, formerly on the newington.

X

Planning board before I moved to portsmouth, so I appreciate the difficulty of the decisions and.

X

What you have in front of you? It's a big plan, I'm here also to request traffic calming measures on.

X

Woodbury avenue from talking to other residents, um I understand, there's been two fatalities. I'm down.

X

Closer to edmond avenue, which, if you know woodbury avenues, I'm sure you do at farm lane, it's at its.

X

Highest, it then goes in a straight shot. All the way down to where the new franklin school is only.

X

Obstructed where the 95 overpass goes over, and that creates a tremendous line of sight which.

X

Creates this feeling of invincibility, and I think, if you were to compare the speeds reported by the.

X

Gentleman before up near the intersection of maplewood you'd find as people get to that hill.

X

They're rolling they're, already thinking they're on the highway and um next to my house uh at the.

X

Intersection of uh edmund is a bus stop. There is no uh crosswalk there and I watch kids every.

X

Day because I make coffee in the morning I sit on my front steps and the kids play roulette to come.

X

From the gem estates neighborhood to get across woodbury avenue, the cars I think are going 50.

X

In many cases um it's it's pretty scary. uh Also parents are walking. That's the walking path to.

X

Come from the these residential neighborhoods to get to the new franklin school, you see moms, dads.

X

Pushing a stroller with you know a third grader running ahead, a dog on a leash and.

X

They're trying to cross streets where the traffic is going really really fast.

X

It's hard to pull out of even your driveway, because when the cars are going faster, you you.

X

Just can't get these windows and you're having to take risks and it's it is a risky situation.

X

I called the city today to ask about that, and I spoke with a bunch of people and we could.

X

Not find a designated plan, I know miss bronson submitted a request and their response in the.

X

Plan was to that that there was um I'm trying to find my quote here: traffic calming along woodbury.

X

Avenue is currently funded and in design, funds were previously approved to make improvements to.

X

A gateway which include traffic calming, but I've spoken with members of the traffic and safety.

X

Committee I was there earlier, none of us are sure where the project is and- and it there's not.

X

A project that is listed in the cip and I think it's important to break a project out specifically.

X

To this put it in a specific year, because if it comes in- and it's just in a generalized overall.

X

City project, I fear that we'll lose lose out on a project where it's really a life and safety issue.

X

And so I see my time is up, but thank you for for taking this into consideration and if you.

X

Could do that? I think it would be a great help to give us something that we can follow and help.

X

The project move forward, thank you did you so so, just to reiterate, there are monies available. It's.

G

Identified as new franklin franklin ave, it's 500 000 that are going to go to treatments on either.

G

Ends and additional traffic coming along woodbury carter, a designer was initially presented to the.

G

Traffic parking trafficking safety committee and the design is it's in design right now,.

G

I spoke to staff today, they're working on it, and it's intended to be in construction this summer.

G

So you don't need an additional project identified in the cip because it's already funded and it's.

B

Moving forward, it's an important distinction that once a project is funded, it does not necessarily.

B

Stay on the cip, so I think this is a good example of the status of a project that may be confusing.

B

If, if you're expecting to see it on the cip and it's not, and it's not labeled or listed.

G

As woodbury avenue so but it's it's because it's at that it started with the intersection.

G

um At new franklin, we can do this offline, but if you could send me the project number.

X

That'd be great I'd love to to look at it. Thank you you can. You know how to contact me.

Y

Good evening my name is: lenore weiss bronson. I live at 828, woodbury avenue.

Y

At the corner of uh farm lane- and I have vividly.

Y

um Remembered uh incidents in the last 35 years that I have seen from my kitchen window that.

Y

I have experienced regarding my fortunately my stone wall in front of my house, because I.

Y

Would have had cars in my living rooms, probably three or four times had that wall not been hit.

Y

um So I would just like to give you a few pictures of what we deal with in the neighborhood and just.

Y

Piggyback on my neighbors here and um and I'm saying this in the context of being concerned.

Y

That a project is going to be implemented again. That does not include specific input from.

Y

Neighbors, who live with this hazards on woodbury avenue and the connecting streets every day.

Y

And the the proposal that we put uh in this year and last year that was not responded to at all.

Y

um uh We didn't know it went to traffic and safety um is really a composite of the last.

Y

30 years of people's input, it's not just something we came up, but at the last minute um for purposes.

Y

Of getting funds, if, with all due respect, if you make corrections at one end of woodbury avenue,.

Y

At one, it's a mile, long residential street, no stops anywhere required and you make them at.

Y

The other end where the blinking light is that people rarely I've, never seen. I think I have.

Y

Seen one person use it you're going to have all of this space in between that isn't being dealt with.

Y

And the corner of farm lane and woodbury the stop sign last christmas eve uh was smashed and ended.

Y

Up in my yard, for three four days that was in my yard uh previous to that it was taken out again.

Y

By someone who sped from woodbury avenue into farm lane, as I was walking out of my house with.

Y

My dog, the man, almost hit me, but fortunately he hit the stop sign. Instead, it was traumatic.

Y

um I uh have also seen a woman lying face down in the crosswalk when she was on her way to saint.

Y

Catherine's church, when it was active at the time uh and was hit by someone in the crosswalk coming.

Y

Up from uh 95. we um we have to really look and at this problem as something that has specific needs.

Y

In specific parts of woodbury avenue you can have a mile long residential street with 23 accesses.

Y

And egresses not counting driveways and not have some sort of uh provision for people stopping 57.

Y

000 cars a week 15 years ago, went down woodbury avenue. We haven't been permitted to get a traffic.

Y

Count on it, what it is currently but believe me, it's a lot more than 57 000.. We, this neighborhood.

Y

Deserves respect we have to have safety in this neighborhood. I watch kids every day, as I did today,.

Y

On the corner, waiting for the bus at farm and woodbury, who are in danger? Because they could.

Y

Be hit just like that. Stop sign right at that location um was taken out. There's no sign up.

J

But it's a stop that it's a um it's a school! uh Stop! It's bus! Stop! I'm going to speak from! Thank.

Y

You we appreciate your concerns and speeding is a real issue in any neighborhood. This is not the.

A

Place for us to try to design a specific proposal if the board wishes to increase the budget for.

A

Traffic calming or make that recommendation, we can't actually allocate anything all we can do.

A

Is make a recommendation? That's a possibility, but that's a design problem. I hear the problem.

A

It's a dead straight level, road you're, going to have speeding issues without intervention, so.

A

Anybody else wish to speak about the capital improvement program itself this evening. Okay,.

C

Good evening peter huda, 280 south street.

C

um I guess I'm going to start out by uh looking at some pages, because I've been.

C

Following trying to follow with the pages, my first comment to the planning board uh would.

C

Be my first question was on the amount of two million dollars for the community campus and.

C

My question was: did we have an estimate? Are we going to get plans and I think that was answered.

C

By nathan- and I would hope that before this moves forward, uh you would get an amount on that.

C

um Number two: the outdoor pool, the outdoor pool currently has right around five million dollars.

C

Sitting already authorized um and we're asking for another 1.5, I would ask you to inquire as to.

C

um Is this for repairs or where are we as far as moving forward on this project? We keep.

C

Accumulating dollars, but um since we don't know where the project is visually, it doesn't look like.

C

Anything is being done over there and we have money sitting. There number three prescott park.

C

Same thing, um we have about four million dollars uh sitting um waiting to be used, we're being.

C

Asked as taxpayers and through you uh to authorize another 1.7, I would ask you to find out where this.

C

um Where this project is and how much more money we're going to need at this time.

C

Next one, um it's back again.

C

um I'm talking about the foundry garage making offices out of a parking area as residents, we.

C

Waited, I don't know how many years as boards and members of committees we discussed parking.

C

To no end with hours of parking discussions, I would ask you to remove this item. This is.

C

A parking facility and as far as this resident is concerned, I would rather see parking spaces.

C

Made out of this, the discussion on this to combine the parking area. Employees doesn't even come close.

C

To measuring up of a benefit of the parking that would be in this area, please look at this closely.

C

My next question would be, I think, peter discussed the upgrades on the russell.

C

Market- that was a big question I had on the peas roads. We've got 2.7 million sitting.

C

There, where are we on paving the roads? I would ask you to inquire as to where these projects.

C

Are and the amount of money that's being requested, I will be back. Thank you. Thank you.

A

Did you want to address any of those you missed the chair if you'd like I, but some of them, you.

A

Have already- and I know some of them were you dressed up the pool issue? I addressed the bids.

G

Came in high, we needed additional money to address that prescott park. The opinion of.

G

Cost is higher than we have monies available, so the monies are to address that uh higher.

G

Cost uh the foundry garage cannot be converted into parking in that space. It was not designed.

G

For parking it was designed for offices, it was intended as flex space for offices. That's what.

G

We're trying to fit out uh russell market has been addressed. The peas roadways, all the monies that.

G

Are identified will be going to the to that corporate drive? The corporate drive cost is.

G

Roughly four and a half million dollars, and that's why the monies are identified for that. Thank you.

Z

Good afternoon I was going to say good morning, you've been here that long.

Z

um My name is elizabeth bradder property owner 159 mcdonough street yesterday went to a conservation.

Z

Commission meeting regarding um improving prescott park for water retention is that a good way to put.

Z

It but one of the things that came up in reading the 492 pages was that pierce island is also in.

Z

Distress when it comes to climate change and water, so my question is for peter rice, most.

Z

Likely in terms of before we spend more money on the pierce island um surge treatment, plant.

Z

Which we just put in is it protected from when it when it was rebuilt, and I just don't remember, was.

Z

It rebuilt at the flood the anticipated flood levels. That's really my question, because why.

Z

Should we spend more money on it? If it is, thank you I know you would know. Thank you.

A

A

His last call for first round anybody else wish to speak one more time. Is there. Anyone on zoom peter.

B

There's no one answer. Okay, thanks! Sorry, I I did ask you. There was.

A

Hardly anybody watching it's not not a big night to watch us.

A

Nobody else was to speak.

C

In continuation, um my first question is about, and I think uh the counselor addressed this.

C

um Would be for the greenland, well pfas treatment.

C

um Is that going to be up to the residents of portsmouth to look at this or.

C

um Is this supposed to be taken care of by the feds and are we doing anything to question that.

C

um The next thing would be the uh amount of money that's being asked.

C

For again for union street and willard ave, I noticed willard ave. We have about.

C

Six million dollars sitting there for willard ave, but it is not on here.

C

So um I would um request that you ask where we are in the process on that and also union street.

C

We're asking for we're getting uh a request for more money on union street and on islington and.

C

We were just told tonight by peter that uh we only have one more phase, but we seem to have a.

C

Lot of money sitting there. So if we could get an update on exactly where we, where we are because.

C

When you look at it visually, it doesn't seem like anything's happening now, and that's just.

C

Visually, I'm not saying anything, nothing is, but uh as far as listening to the street, we've got.

C

We've got 11 million dollars sitting there unused. According to my calculations, that I.

C

Don't know probably what's happening and they're asking for another 5.4, so um it would be great.

C

For the citizens, and probably for the planning board to know what you are funding moving forward.

C

um Before we uh move forward on on a lot of these projects, thank you. Thank you.

G

The I'm not sure where uh those numbers are coming from uh the money's, the monies that were committed.

G

For islington um are covering the first portion of this next project, which is starting this spring.

G

Those all those monies will be expended to execute that first portion of the contract, the additional.

G

Monies are to do the balance of the work. This project was bid, so these numbers are real. You.

G

Know these are real numbers: they're working off of um the union willard uh union, the opinion of.

G

Costs on union has gone up significantly since we started the initial design, construction costs.

G

You know have gone up significantly since we started uh islington project. It went up.

G

70 percent uh and then we revised it and it's gone up 30, since the second revision.

G

um So the union costs are just reflecting the increase in construction costs.

G

uh Willard is I'm not sure where the six million dollars for willard what.

G

She's referring to on that, but you know I'm sure I'll find out at some point.

N

And uh regarding the greenland, well, uh that is part of the portsmouth water system, though it's.

N

Called the greenland wild, it's just one of many water sources we have, um it would not be funded by.

N

City of portsmouth residents, that's strictly water funds fees, the fees from water users; and uh if the.

N

Regulations for pfas are such that that well is exceeding the limits. We will look to design.

N

And construct something to meet those regulatory requirements, as we do with all our water sources.

A

Thank you, I'm going to close the public hearing unless anybody else wishes to speak.

A

Public hearing is closed. Any other questions by the board before uh staff is.

A

Released, I have a question. Yes, it's an opportunity for the board if they have.

P

Other projects they'd like to see added to cip, is this the time to bring it up.

A

I think it's a little late, but for a new project. I think you can modify things that are in the list.

A

Well I'll tell you what I have in mind: um a water master plan.

P

It's 10 years old, it's older than the current see I mean the master plan itself. So I didn't know.

P

If anyone on the board is interested in putting in a placeholder for a water system, master plan.

A

Do you like to speak to them? We have. We have monies currently right now and some grant.

N

Monies from the state going towards a look, a comprehensive look at the hydraulics of.

N

The south end of the system near this lafayette tank so that up update would be there and and.

N

The plan is revisited continuously. In fact, all the improvements we've done in 10 years have.

N

Really been driven by that, so it's more of an ongoing process than a you know, one-time thing.

N

So it's not a static plan. No sir yeah well yeah! I well just like any plan is really but it's the.

P

Last plan was excuse me in 2013. correct and uh you know, portsmouth's changed a lot. There's a lot.

P

Of new demands coming, and um I just thought it'd- be a good idea to update our water master plan.

P

I mean we wouldn't have to fund it. It would just be a like a placeholder element sheet.

A

As public works discuss this at all, as brian indicated, you know we review um the water master.

G

Plan on a regular basis, it's really been what has driven us, uh but it's you know if.

G

And we have that thing. We have spent 44 million dollars in the last 10 years on the water.

N

System the treatment well upgrades water line improvements, so the the phase of the system that.

N

Needs some addressing is down by the constitution tank and that that study will be an update of that.

N

Portion of the master plan- it's not a excuse me um it really. If you would like to add that it's.

G

It's true, no sure you know it's, you know we're not against. We love, you know master, we do that's what.

G

We do we master plan, we implement, we revisit, you know, build and measure. um That's that's.

G

How we operate- and you know, having an updated master plan- is not a bad thing. All right, great.

P

Thank you any other. Yes peter, I'm sorry do we need a motion to vote on that or how will.

P

That work, I think, we'll get to that yeah. I just want to make sure we have staff questions. Okay,.

S

um With the number of requests that came in on woodbury avenue and the traffic safety issues.

S

There and your response to it being funded and uh beginning construction in this spring or summer.

S

Summer, yeah summer, I guess, is there an area on the city, any communication online, where residents of.

S

That area can see what's planned and I I mean I know the dpw has sites of existing projects.

S

When they're underway and residents can go there and see what's underway, but is there.

S

uh I'll take a look and, if not I'll, make sure something's there that'd be great yep. Thank you.

A

Any other questions for staff.

P

Mr chair, I just have one other potential idea for a placeholder sheet: okay,.

P

It would be the portsmouth traffic circle.

P

um I don't know if people are aware, but the rockingham planning commission last fall.

P

Ranked upgrading the traffic circle to a two-lane roundabout as their number one priority for the.

P

Dot master point uh 10-year plan, so I think it would be important for portsmouth to show that.

P

We support their decision and at least include in our master plan. Mr chairman, I believe I'm.

B

Going to check with director rice, but that is the state jurisdiction as such. We would not include it.

B

In them yeah, it is actually we show it in the back of the state-funded project in the back.

G

Of the thing, and actually you know when I went to look at it- um I I was mis. I was mistaken in.

G

There showed the monies in 2629 for that russell intersection. So I appreciate you pointing that out.

G

um Well, actually, it's in the it's in your it's in your appendixes right, okay,.

P

Thanks yep, actually at one point our cip did include a upgrade to the traffic circle, so.

P

um It's not unusual. We at one point we did have a an element sheet for the traffic circle.

A

Good curious, how a state that won't, let us build sound walls in there right away, would.

A

Let us touch their rotary, but they wouldn't, as if you recall the way that in years past.

G

The cip had items that were state projects just for informational.

G

um I believe there showed any participation from the city on that particular element sheet. Is that.

G

That's correct peter right, so it was more informational and that's why, in the back of.

G

The you know we show it now as an appendices. It's you know the the the plan. The capital plan, evolves.

G

Over time, and it one of the things that was added at one point- was state projects and because it was.

G

Really confusing for folks, they would see it and they would feel it was something that was.

G

Getting done by the city, we decided that it was not appropriate to have it in there. So that's.

G

Why it's been relegated to an appendices versus a separate element sheet and the point of showing.

A

Support, I would be happy to see a letter from the city from the planning board to the rockingham.

A

Funding commission in the state that we do support that. That's, mr chairman, I know that the reps from.

B

Portsmouth did vote to approve this as part of the rockingham planning commission action taken.

R

Just so happens, I'm the vice chairman planning, commission.

A

I think we need to it's our role to make a recommendation to pass this along to.

A

Council we can propose modifications. I heard traffic coming come up a lot.

A

um There is money in the budget, the proposed budget for that proposed capital plan and.

A

The water system master plan placeholder that jim mentioned. If anybody wishes to advance any of those ideas now's the time and then I think we're.

A

Ready for a motion to advance the entire didn't, I ask one more question: of course you just did.

R

um Prize, would it be helpful, based off of the amount of com traffic calming requests that.

R

Come through parking traffic and safety to increase the amount, that's in the cip or not.

G

It's always helpful to have extra money. um The reality that we face is one of balancing.

G

Needs and and trying to come forward with the responsible, um glide path for projects to get.

G

Implemented so you know, obviously it's a council decision if you feel um if the council feels they.

G

Would like to allocate more money, we will, we will spend it, we unders. We know how to do that.

G

um But it's it's really. One of you know. We believe this is a responsible approach and.

G

And that's why we brought it forward this way. Thank you. I will add just briefly that I know.

A

From personal experience with working with other cities, once you start a significant.

A

Program, it's hard to stop because you're pushing the issue to different neighborhoods, sometimes so.

A

It's a it's a complicated matter.

AA

Right, I'm in favor of both amendments that have been suggested. The water plan is that a motion is.

AA

That a motion to amend the cip- that was what your original question was. How do we do this.

A

You could add, you could add a placeholder sheet for a water master plan to propose to.

O

Add a placeholder sheet for water master plan chairman. Should there be a motion to to move.

AB

It forward with with stipulations, should there be stipulations to emotion. Instead,.

O

That would be one way to do it certainly well I'd like to make the motion to to advance the cip, the.

O

City, council and- and anyone can second that and add stipulations to it, and I could entertain them.

O

Right, yes, I understand your question better yeah I see. Would you like to make a motion so moved.

O

So stated, I'd like to admit the second to advance the cip second discussion on the motion. I'd like.

P

To make an amendment to add the water master plan to update the 2013 water master plan, placeholder.

A

For the tooth to update the water master plan, is there a second to that performance? Well now you.

R

Just asked the first one: second, if they agree tonight, but I don't want to. I want agreed: okay.

A

Anything else it's like a good idea. I forget uh I wanted them. I just for clarity. I wanted many men.

A

On the proposed amendment to the motion yeah, but I forget what the idea was: it was traffic calling.

A

The second issue increasing the line item for traffic coming. I think it was 150.

AA

Exactly I make a motion that we increase the amount is that a recommendation for.

AB

Increase, yes, okay, the whole thing's recommendation right exactly yeah.

A

To a number of the correct, is it a 150? That's in there now 150 isn't enough. I I mean it's. It.

AA

Was the biggest thing everybody talked about, so I'd be in favor of doubling it to 300.

A

Can we get a well first of all? Is there a second to that proposal? That's not gonna! Okay! Before.

A

You agree to it, mr amount of manager. What might that affect have on the overall picture of any.

A

It brings the total from 1.77 up 150 000.. um I could run the calculation quickly on.

B

You're still below the two percent below and below nine percent. Do you think overall yeah.

B

It's not a bond requirement, since it's capital outlay is four percent, not the 10.

A

And how do you feel about the air force amendment? Yes, we have a proposal, two amendments.

A

Is everybody ready for a vote? Yes, all those in favor aye opposed.

A

Passes for those amendments, thank you very much.

AA

Two minutes: good uh we're gonna, take we're gonna, take a 10 minute.

A

Break while folks are rearranging themselves that.

AC

A couple of things before we jump into our regular meeting: let's put it well.

A

We don't need them yet. They're coming, I was just gonna have to close the door.

A

Consider whether we need to split the agenda, I just have to mention it, because.

A

We're supposed to do at the beginning of our meeting, I'm not suggesting we do. I just I'm.

A

Noting that we have that opportunity now or we stop at 10 o'clock and reconsider.

A

I'm going to just say we're going to go until 10 unless somebody says something else: okay, good.

A

I would like to move up items 4a4h4, 6a and 6b to the first part of the.

A

Agenda there's two adus and two simple extensions that are later in the night.

AA

The motion that we do as suggested by the chair exactly so 6 a.m: 4a 4h, 6a, 6b,.

A

I can read them if you'd like to hear what they are just trying to kind of got your section four.

A

uh 29 versailles avenue conditional use permit for adu.

A

um 653, greenland, for conditional use permit for detox accessory towing unit 137 northwest street.

A

For one year extension and 250 2454 lafayette for another one year extension, that's it they're.

A

Pretty straightforward- um and we reviewed these earlier this week in the pre-meeting.

A

So we have a motion. Yes, we do and we had a second somewhere folks, everybody ready for a.

A

Vote on that everybody in favor, okay, let's do the minutes and then let's bring those up so.

A

Anybody notice anything in the minutes for november 17th.

AA

I make a motion that we accept the minutes of the november 17th meeting as presented. Second any discussion, all those in favor.

A

Aye oppose none. Okay. First up next item will be item. What is in our agendas item four: a.

A

Proposal by jason, a and kristen e brit, as owners for property at 29, versailles.

A

Avenue not for sales crescent conditional use permit approval is permit under section 10815.

A

Of the zoning ordinance to create a garden cottage, who is here to present that proposal.

AD

Hi good evening, I'm kristen- this is jason britt from 29 versailles avenue. We are proposing.

AD

And have applied for a garden cottage in our existing garage and we submitted that proposal.

A

You would you like to explain it. um I don't know.

AD

What you need, I guess, other than our proposals, so yeah.

A

Well, is anybody any of the board have any questions or go ahead.

R

Could you just give just give us an idea about the layout of the place, what you plan on doing.

R

With it, how it plans on functioning, where people plan on parking and how it's all going to work.

R

Okay, so um talking to the microphone, so people at home can hear you so uh parking wise. We just.

AE

Have a single driveway that is about 75 feet long, so we plan on just parking in the in the.

AE

One driveway and then it's just going to be a studio unit. It's a small garage about a.

AE

Hundred and I think 99 square feet so just be a studio unit in there very small uh staying.

AE

Very similar to the way it is on the outside and then of course, the changes on the inside.

AA

But question yes, your drawings uh plot plan looks nice very uh as built. Drawing is fine.

AA

Or picture I should say: what's the front of the garage gonna look like when it becomes.

AA

A studio I didn't see a drawing for that now you have a layout, you know with the.

AA

Bathroom and living room, but there's nothing really showing what the front's gonna look.

AA

Like right now, it's a double door garage. We we expect to keep it that way. So we.

AE

Want to keep that to look like it's still a garage with that barn door. Look on the front.

AA

Oh, the entrance is on the side. Yes, thank you and sorry is the intent to have stacked parking with.

Q

A future potential tenant, as you say, stacked, means all just in a line correct then. Yes,.

A

Any other questions.

AB

It I'm sorry, I have a question so when you say we start we're, saying stack, but it looks like.

AB

The width of the driveway might allow for you to stack on one side and cars can pass around.

AB

The other side, or my so uh or there's plenty of room for it, but the width that the pavement itself.

R

Is is just one car wide pretty much but, okay, you know, there's still there's lots of room there. Okay,.

A

No other questions I'm going to open a public hearing that, I suspect will be short.

A

Public hearing is open anybody here, which would be too far against this application.

A

Anybody on zoom there's one person that they have raise their hand, so you wish to raise.

A

Your hand do so now or I'm going to close the public hearing. Public hearing is closed board.

AF

Mr chairman, I'll make a motion that we vote to find that the conditional use permit application.

AF

Meets the criteria set forth in section 10.815.40 and adopt the findings of fact, as presented.

A

Second, any discussion: I think this most certainly meets the intent of the garden.

AF

Cottage, as the current ordinance is written, and it's also good to see that there's no.

AF

Changes in the wetland buffer and that there's no immediate butters to the rear.

A

Agree any other discussion, all those in favor, I opposed none you're approved. Thank you.

A

I lost my phone, we only did the one vote we needed to do the second vote. I'm sorry. We.

A

Did the findings yeah they're almost approved? The findings are back to support your approval.

A

Have been approved, mr chairman, I'll, make a motion. We vote to grant the conditionally used.

AF

Permit with the following one stipulation and the planning board memorandum: second.

A

No further discussion, all those in favor aye aye opposed now you're really approved. Thank you.

A

We're now going to item 4h, um jaws, lj, jaws, brenda, moore, revocable trust and sc bring the more.

A

Revocable trust his owners and luke j brenda moore is applicant for property at 653, greenland road.

A

Requesting conditional use permit for a detached accessory drawing in an existing garage foreign.

A

Is there anyone here to present this proposal.

A

If not we'll move on to the next one, I would just assume I'm not here.

A

Okay, uh we have a request for our one-year extension by gregory, a and amanda gregory.

A

And amanda morneau as owners for property, 137 northwest street. It's item 6a in your agenda.

A

Towards the end.

R

I make a motion to grant the extension. Second any discussion, all those in favor aye, aye aye, opposed.

A

On extension, granted item 6b, 2422 lafayette, road associates, llc is honor and torrington properties.

A

Inc applicant for property at 2454 lafayette road also requesting a one-year extension.

R

Make a motion to grant the extension second, any discussion.

A

All those in favor all right opposed none suspension granted.

P

Mr chair, I have a question on the on the on the no show. How does that go down on the record when.

P

We asked for an applicant to come and they just didn't come that's what the record shows. So is it.

P

A non-decision, I guess, uh there's no decision, there was no action, so I believe the applicant was.

AG

He was either gonna, he has to go to the zoning board and he was either gonna appear on zoom.

AG

Tonight, beverly or next week I don't know.

AG

And I haven't, I haven't seen him on the the um panelists. Is that something we can do to keep his.

AB

Spot, and can we move into it too? Can we continue it yeah yeah, since we brought him so far forward.

R

Ahead, maybe he's not planning until later. I think you need to keep him in the spot that he's in now.

A

And opened or closed the public hearing, so well that wouldn't be well, there would be, but so we.

A

Haven't done that, so we can just come back to it if we need to if he shows up if he shows up.

A

Now I'm completely off track. Thank you.

A

We have determinations of completeness, we have.

A

Supposed to court harbor land llc is owner and applicant a property of looking at two russell.

A

Street requesting a lot line revision approval to adjust the boundary lines in three lots before we.

A

Talk about that did you wish to say anything? uh Yes, mr chair, um I'd like to bring up to the.

AA

Board's attention, the fact that I have known the principles of port harvard land llc for over 25.

AA

Years during this time, my current and immediately passed employers have had business relationships.

AA

With these principles, I personally have never had done business with either principal, and I am not.

AA

Currently, in a business relationship with either, if the board feels they should vote on that, I'm.

AA

Willing to do that, I just felt it important to disclose. I do not think I need to recuse myself.

A

Thank you. The board can do an advisory vote if it's so inclined.

A

Or he suggests his recusal, I don't feel it's necessary, but that is a possibility.

A

Going going, okay, we're good! So that's the request of the pine. As I read it,.

A

Thank you very much, mr chair. You're. Welcome need a motion for completeness.

A

Those in favor aye aye opposed. We have also requests for jonathan watson, sobel revocable.

A

Trust his owner for property at 49 chief street, requesting preliminary and final sub is approval.

A

Subdivide one lot into two lots: that's lu 22-179. This is also motion for completeness.

A

Completed application only removed competition, all those in favor aye aye opposed none. We have.

A

Three site plan completeness also the same thing for port harbor, land, llc, owner and applicant for.

A

Property to russell street, requesting site plan approval for construction, 80 residential units.

A

Commercial space and parking in three buildings, lu, 22-111,.

I

AG

Request of tom ballen, an eight kph, llc is owner and applicant for property. At.

A

161 deer street requesting site plan approval for the construction of a four-story building.

A

To include a penthouse commercial space, 19 dwelling units and associated site improvements.

A

Lu 22-173 also completeness so moved.

A

All those in favor aye.

A

Aye one more in the competition here request to see court realty llc is owner for property.

A

At 85, daniel street requesting site plan approval to add a two-story rear edition.

A

And convert the existing structure into a four unit building consisting of four apartments, lu.

A

22-75 also, we need motion for completeness. Second, all those in favor aye opposed none.

A

We now have a public hearing new business requested port harbor land llc is on an.

A

Applicant for property at 2 russell street, requesting a lot line, revision.

A

Approval to adjust the boundary lines. Excuse me on three lots to create one lot with 18 237 square.

A

Feet or 418 000 acres of lot area, one lot with fifty two thousand six hundred fifty one square.

A

Feet or one in 209, 000, acres of lot area and one lot with 19 141 square feet or 429 thousand acres.

A

Of lot area, these properties of the assessors map 118 lot 28 map 124 lot, 12 map, 125 lot 21 and lie.

A

Within the character district, five north index north end incentive overlay, district, historic.

A

District and the downtown overlay district, who is here to speak to this application, hey uh good.

AH

Evening my name is neil hansen, with tying bond civil engineer on the project also here tonight.

AH

With the project, team is patrick hermann from time bonds and ryan palmer from 200 national group.

AH

uh So we are here tonight uh for a project that we've been working on for for well over a year.

AH

Now so we're we're excited to be at this stage of the project, um as was just right into the record.

AH

We will be, uh we are requesting our site plan review, permit lot, liner vision permit and then two.

AH

Separate conditional use permits uh one for shared parking on a separate lot and one for increased.

AH

Building footprint uh so including your submission package uh was over a dozen items that have been.

AH

Reviewed through the tac process, including plan set drainage analysis, uh peer reviews, uh traffic.

AH

Studies and community space exhibits to name a few, so this project we've already been through.

AH

An extensive review with the uh with the technical advisory committee um and we actually started it.

AH

Was a year ago tomorrow, uh when we were at here at planning board for a conceptual consultation.

AH

We then met with a technical advisory committee in january of this year for.

AH

A work session and then returned back to this board in february this year for design review.

AH

Since then, we have been through five tac meetings where we received our recommendation of approval.

AH

In november of this year, this project also has gone through a peer review process for.

AH

Our storm water and drainage analysis plans, as well as the traffic impact study and.

AH

um Roadway plans: in addition, this project has also already received its certificate approval.

AH

From the historic district commission in august of this year- and they had also been through an.

AH

Extensive work session process with with the hdc dating back to the summer of last year,.

AH

um This project is also going to require two approvals through nhdes, the first being the.

AH

Alteration of terrain permit, which we submitted earlier this week and a store connection permit.

AH

If you go to the next page computer, I'm going to interrupt you, my mistake: not yours,.

A

We need a motion to consider both the subdivision and site plan together, we'll vote on this.

A

Separately, but we're considering everything all at once, so you don't have to make two presentations.

A

Second, all those in favor aye aye an opposed. Thank you very much apologize for that introduction.

AH

So the uh project site is uh up on the screen here, it's located at the corner of uh dear and.

AH

Deer and russell street um commonly known as the the sheridan parking lot so to the left of the.

AH

Page here is maplewood avenue. uh The railroad is to the top side of the lot and then deer street.

AH

On the bottom and russell street up splitting the project site with the existing sheridan property.

AH

um Also included in this application uh shown in this inset up here is the parcel.

AH

Of lands that is currently a vacant lot that runs between the railroad and russell street.

AH

And then, for the purposes of the law line revision plan, the sheridan um property is also included in.

AH

The uh as part of the application, so the existing condition of the of the uh redevelopment lots.

AH

Is a large surface parking lot, uh which is mainly used for parking by the sheridan hotel.

AH

There's a large grout ledge outcropping up at the intersection of green street.

AH

Here and then a gravel strip that that parallels, the uh the railroad.

AH

If you go to the next sheet please so the proposed site plan uh consists of three separate buildings.

AH

um On actually each on an individual lot building, one is located here at the corner of maplewood and.

AH

Deer is a four-story office. Building building two is the one in the middle uh that is at the corner.

AH

Of russell and deer street uh building two is is the subject of the conditional use, permit request.

AH

For increased building footprint, which I'll touch on a little bit later, it's a five-story mixed-use.

AH

Building uh basement level parking, the first level consists of parking and a mix of commercial spaces.

AH

Along the front uh retail restaurant uses to be determined and then upper floor, 56 residential.

AH

Units building three: is this long skinny one up uh on the corner of green and russell as another.

AH

Five-Story mixed-used residential building, um again first floor being residential lobby and.

AH

Commercial spaces and 24 residential units on the upper floors. This project also consists of.

AH

Significant on-site and off-site improvements, including the realignment of the intersection.

AH

Between of russell and deer, uh as you're likely familiar, this intersection currently comes in.

AH

At a an awkward angle, so this this project will square off that intersection and also create this.

AH

This large open space area at the corner, as well as some wide sidewalks along the frontage of the.

AH

Development site uh this project also includes community space which again I'll get into more.

AH

Detail a little bit later, lighting and landscaping um as well as storm water management and utilities.

AH

Combined all these site features together will greatly increase the pedestrian safety in in this.

AH

Area as well as providing a pretty significant community space along the rear of the site between.

AH

The railroad and all three of the buildings is the rear access drive, which is a shared.

AH

Pedestrian bike and vehicular way, it is the access point for the basement level garage entrance, which.

AH

Is on this end of the building and then the exit which is over here uh this this drive is.

AH

A one-way going from maplewood through to green street. uh It also includes some traffic calming.

AH

Measures that were added uh there's a couple- speed tables there's one here and here which.

AH

Were added as part of the traffic peer review process and the attack review process, um this.

AH

Rear area is also signed for pedestrian and bike use, as well as way finding signage for pedestrians.

AH

um So the area I'll touch on these briefly and get them to a little more detail when.

AH

We, when I discuss the community space but um the area between building one and building two.

AH

uh We're referring to is the muse area. It's a community space area that has a couple seating.

AH

Areas as well as some plantings, um then there's some activated spill out areas from the retail.

AH

Spaces uh out of building two and then another one out of building one here um and then the.

AH

Area between buildings, two and three is the the driveway entrance for the uh upper or the ground.

AH

Level parking, uh but is also uh designed to be a pedestrian friendly area with uh concrete pavers.

AH

As well as flush granite curbing to create a pedestrian connection through the site.

AH

So on-site parking is located within the building two footprint, as I mentioned earlier, that is the.

AH

Building we're requesting the conditional use permit for to to allow for up to a forty.

AH

Thousand square footprint um this this building contains on the lower level 94 parking spaces.

AH

Shown in this upper inset here and then on the ground floor has an additional 86 spaces.

AH

uh Which also utilize puzzle lift systems which will primarily be used by the sheridan.

AH

Hotel valet, which is the subject of our second conditional use, permit for the shared parking.

AH

um So the the parking demand for this this site was calculated using the city's parking.

AH

Requirements uh because we were in the downtown overlay district, there is no parking or demand.

AH

Requirement for commercial uses, the 80 residential units were calculated at a 1.3 space per unit for.

AH

104 spaces we are required to have 16 visitor spaces for the one for per five dwelling unit.

AH

The sheridan hotel has a parking demand of 136 spaces and then also included in the parking.

AH

Demand calculation are 80, 82 spaces for that are have a deeded easement for the deer street.

AH

Condos, which are here and then the condos that are within the sheridan, all those spaces, have.

AH

Been accounted for in the total parking between this, this building two lot and the sheridan lot.

AH

AH

Where am I you go to the next page, please so grading and drainage. So, as I mentioned previously,.

AH

The existing condition of the uh the site has does not provide any storm water treatment.

AH

um All the the storm water runoff from the site, either sheet flows.

AH

Into the city's storm water system, untreated or sheet flows directly towards the railroad.

AH

So the proposed development will be providing storm water treatment for all the new buildings.

AH

As well as the uh the pedestrian areas connecting in between the two buildings.

AH

Buildings, one and two are connected into the same underground detention system. The detention.

AH

System is made up of concrete chambers, which then outlet into a storm water, filtration unit.

AH

Prior to connecting into the city system down on maplewood ave, uh the building 2 uh driveway has.

AH

Its own catch basin and storm water filtration unit before tying into the russell street system,.

AH

And then building three has its own detention system in the rear, which then again goes through.

AH

Another storm water filtration unit before eventually connecting back into russell street.

AH

And, as I mentioned previously, this, the stormwater design has been peer, reviewed and.

AH

Also, as we were crying on alteration train permit, this will again be reviewed by ds.

AH

If you go to the next sheet, please so the utilities plan, all three buildings have their own.

AH

Utility services, the typical water, gas sewer and electric and communications for each individual.

AH

Building, all of those connection and time points were reviewed by gpw through the attack process.

AH

We also have a quite a bit of additional conduit for the street lighting that will.

AH

Be added as part of this project a couple of the larger utility.

AH

um Upgrades that are that are going to be a result of this project is the reconstruction of the water.

AH

Main and russell street from deer to green and then there's going to be a significant amount of.

AH

Electrical upgrades for the neighborhood, uh that is, a requirement of eversource.

AH

They currently have an easement that runs through the site that carries some of the electric from.

AH

The north end down into the center of the city, so as part of this that will need to be abandoned. So.

AH

We have coordinated this design with them where we're connecting into some stubbed conduit. They.

AH

Left here, adding a switch gear and a number of manholes and basically reconfiguring that entire.

AH

Underground electrical system in this portion of town, uh if you go to the next sheet, please.

AH

So a large component of this project is uh the community space and off-site improvements that are.

AH

Being provided as part of the north end incentives and as well as the conditional use permit for the.

AH

40 000 square footprint, so this project, uh as it is located in the north end incentive.

AH

Overlay districts we'll be providing a minimum of 20 community space for buildings, one and three in.

AH

Order to get the extra uh story of building height as well as required to provide the 30 for building.

AH

Two as part of the conditional use permit, uh so the total amount of community space being.

AH

Provided by this project is 38 695 square feet, which equals 39.8 percent of the total lot areas.

AH

um Which obviously exceeds the 20 required for the north end incentive, as well as the 30 for.

AH

The conditional use permit, uh in addition to that, the um the project is also providing uh over 22.

AH

000 square feet of what we're referring to as public realm improvements, so that is shown in.

AH

The yellow on this that area is not included in our community space calculations. However,.

AH

We thought it was important to highlight it because it is a significant amount of of off-site.

AH

Improvements being provided by this project, so we we did want to highlight that as well.

AH

um This project is also providing 31.2 percent open space on the development.

AH

Lot, where the requirement is only five percent for the cd5 zone that we are in.

AH

um If you go to the next sheet, please so as part of the submission package, we had included a.

AH

Landscape plan for the community space and offsite improvements that that I just briefly went through.

AH

The proposed development is providing these landscape improvements, including an.

AH

Enhanced streetscape plantings, open space area at the corner of deer and russell.

AH

As well as the community space areas, which I'll get into a little bit more detail, now.

AH

So we are utilizing three separate community space types um based off.

AH

The uh city zoning ordinance, the first type, is the pedestrian alley, which there are three areas.

AH

um The the muse area, which I briefly discussed earlier, as well as the pedestrian connection.

AH

Between buildings, two and three and then the shared access way behind the three buildings.

AH

If you go to the next sheet here, I think yes, so this is the first area which we've been.

AH

Referring to as the muse- and this is a 3d sketchup rendering of that area, this area connects the end.

AH

Of portwalk place through the site, which is the direction that we are looking here.

AH

This area was was reviewed extensively and revised through the tac process, and I we.

AH

Also received some some feedback through htc as well, that has ended with this design here. So the.

AH

The design intent for this area was to create a usable and inviting space that was designed.

AH

To draw people into the site, and so this was accomplished in a number of ways. First by uh you.

AH

See how the the entrance to the pedestrian area is is flared open uh to try and draw people in.

AH

um And also using lower plantings at both ends, so we we were trying to avoid creating a visual.

AH

Barrier that that made it feel more open and allow people to see that this is a space that that I can.

AH

Walk through sit down on a bench spend time in this area also has two seating: spillout areas.

AH

um One out of building two which, due to the grade change through this area, this.

AH

This seating area is on a raised platform and then the second spillout seating area.

AH

In building, one is in more of a depressed area towards the back of this muse area.

AH

um Additionally, we use this overhead catenary lighting with these. These circular fixtures.

AH

That you can kind of see from a little bit farther away as a sort of a visual draw into.

AH

The site to try and encourage people to come come into the site and then, additionally, using.

AH

The grade change uh from the high point kind of here along deer street as it slopes back.

AH

To the railroad we've incorporated these these seating walls with the low seats on.

AH

The left here and then the higher seats on the right, along with some taller plantings in the.

AH

Back here, which, which screen uh the opening into one of the levels of the parking garage.

AH

Now, if you go to the next sheet here yeah, so the next area is the the rear.

AH

Access drive here which it's hard to see on the screen here, but we've incorporated.

AH

um Concrete pavers, as well as a different color banding throughout the site, uh the design.

AH

Inspiration for this was was chestnut street in front of the music hall, where they have the two.

AH

Different color pavers with the patterns that sort of define it as a pedestrian friendly space, even.

AH

Though it is still a roadway, in our case we're while we're not a roadway, so it's pretty going.

AH

To be low traffic, because it's only going to be a driveway servicing the buildings we wanted to.

AH

Primarily design it as a pedestrian and bike area, if you go to the next sheet here, so this.

AH

Is a snipping from the the htc submission which shows the rear of building 2.? And this is a pretty.

AH

Unique feature that was included in the back is another way to draw some visual entrance to the.

AH

Site- and this is a mural on the rear of building two that was- is created with a punched metal.

AH

um I don't have much of the detail of that. It's more of the architectural stuff, but.

AH

If we thought it was important to show, is this is kind of a a big draw to this area and we'll.

AH

We'll attract people to this site and be a visual interest, as people are walking through the site.

AH

If you go to the next sheet so and then, as I mentioned, the the third area is the area.

AH

Between uh buildings, two and three, which is, is more of a straight pedestrian connection,.

AH

But will allow uh visitors and guests of the sheridan to have direct access to that um rear.

AH

Pedestrian area and then given our location in the site, this this rear area will allow people.

AH

To depending on where they're coming from either continue on with access down along market street.

AH

To this park area, which I'll get into in a little bit and then the additional parks further down.

AH

Market street the city has developed through the years and then coming down more to the southern.

AH

Side, we are basically right across the tracks from where the future north mill pond trail is.

AH

Planned to connect in with maplewood, so it really connects that that whole von maul porwalk place.

AH

Connection through the city out into the north end and then wherever you're looking to go from there.

AH

um The second air, the second type of community space, is the the wide sidewalk community space.

AH

um So let me go back yeah. Thank you. So.

AH

um The the white sidewalk community space on our site- we don't have a lot of it, because we.

AH

Can only use what is you know on the lot, so it's uh there's a small sliver on building one here.

AH

There's some in front of building two and then again up at the uh the tip here. Building three.

AH

um That's including that calculation also included in that area are the two land transfer areas that.

AH

Are shown in orange here two and three and the reason we included those in in this wide sidewalk.

AH

Community space calculation is that we are, you know, part of that public. Realm improvement where.

AH

We're you know developing this whole plaza area. The only reason we're able to do this is because.

AH

We are giving this land transfer to the city in a which allows us to fix this intersection. So.

AH

We are taking credit for that area where we have created this large open space area at the corner.

AH

um So that because of that realignment- and we have that, we now have this area- uh there is a.

AH

Bit of a grade change between the street and and this area, um so to account for that, we against.

AH

The face of the building here we we have this ramp down uh into this area and, as you come around deer.

AH

And russell we've used the the planters, which also have seating walls on them to kind of define that.

AH

Space and also help us create that grade break, and then we have a couple sets of stairs going down.

AH

And as you come up around the corner, the the grade sort of catches back up with the gray in.

AH

The street and it just blends back into the uh the wide sidewalk heading down along building three.

AH

uh The final community space area is up here. It's this this park area.

AH

um So this area is currently overgrown and unusable. The existing vegetation within the.

AH

Railroad right away, which is uh this- this whole area right here, is a big strip of trees. That is.

T

Not on the on the parcel, so all of those will remain which will maintain that buffer between.

AH

The railroad and the park area, the rest of the area will be re-graded and replanted with.

AH

Native ornamental grasses and then along what will be the rear of a newly constructed sidewalk.

AH

Adjacent to the city's future plan, roundabout will be some seasonal, grasses and perennials, and then.

AH

We we have this little seating niche here as a place for people to kind of get off the sidewalk.

AH

Foreign, so if you go to the next sheet, so that is kind of all the community space landscaping site plans so.

AH

I just want to take a minute and go through our uh the permit requests that we we're here for tonight.

AH

um The first is the site plan review permit so this this project, uh as I mentioned previously,.

AH

Has been uh before this board twice for conceptual consultation, preliminary design.

AH

As well as being before, attack multiple times and uh has been thoroughly reviewed,.

AH

By all those boards and we we received that recommendation of site plan approval from tac.

AH

The lot line revision, I think it's pretty straightforward. uh The existing parcel is.

AH

Already three separate lots and that request is just allowing us to re-relocate those lot lines so.

AH

That each building is on its own individual lot, as well as taking care of the land transfers. One for.

AH

The city to build this, this roundabout and then the other two for the russell street realignment.

AH

uh For the conditional use permits the first one is the conditional use permit for parking.

AH

On a separate lot, which is permanent under the city of portsmouth, zoning ordinance.

AH

So the project meets the parking requirements of shared parking between the three proposed.

AH

Redevelopment parcels the existing sheridan hotel and the deer street condos.

AH

uh The project is providing a total of 334 parking spaces, which is the required amount.

AH

Of spaces required to meet the zoning, the existing surface parking lot is used by the sheridan hotel.

AH

For their valet and self park, operations there's also an existing 82 deed spaces for the deer.

AH

Street and sheridan condos that can be assigned to um or the owners have, the ability to assign.

AH

Those spaces to to any lot or any spot on either the sheridan lot or the redevelopment parcels.

AH

And as I'd outlined below, the the project will be providing 180 spaces within building two and.

AH

There's a 154 existing spaces on the sheridan lot, which gets us to that 334 total um and then for.

AH

The zoning ordinance, the uh the other uh caveat of that is that the shared parking arrangement shall.

AH

Be uh secured by covenant, as accepted by the city and recorded with the rockingham county registry,.

AH

Of deeds and the applicant understands that, if the planning board grant the shared cep that it that.

AH

Will be a condition of approval and the final cup uh is for the increased building footprint.

AH

Of up to 40 000 square feet, which is permitted under section 10, 5a 43.43 of the zoning ordinance.

AH

uh The pointing board may grant that conditional use permit for up to 40 000 square feet in the.

AH

Cd5 district, if the following criteria are met, no story above the ground floor shall be greater than.

AH

30 000 square feet in the cd5 district. The upper floors of building two are 29 810 square feet.

AH

B, all ground floor parking shall be separated from any public or private street by liner building the.

AH

Ground floor parking areas are separated by the retail and commercial spaces. On the first floor.

AH

uh See at least 50 of the gross floor area on the ground floor shall be dedicated to parking.

AH

uh Parking on the ground floor comes out to a total of 64.2 percent, and then lastly, at least.

AH

30 percent of the not lastly, at least 30 percent of the community space shall be assigned or.

AH

Property shall be a science community space and, as I detailed earlier, all our community space numbers.

AH

um The lot 118 map 28, which is the lot in question- we have a total of 40.4 percent of uh calculated.

AH

Community space- and that includes the um we- we use the park area community space to add.

AH

On to the community space on physically on map, 118 lot 28 to achieve that number and then the.

AH

Development shall apply with all applicable standards of the ordinance in the city's land.

AH

Use regulations and the project meets all the cities. Zoning ordinance, inland use regulations.

AH

That is all I have thank you for listening to me, drone on for a while I'd be happy to answer.

AH

Any questions, thank you. I had one just quick one before the whole board. Your calculations.

A

For percentages are related to the newly configured lots that you're proposing or yes, okay,.

A

Yes, andrew uh with regard to your public space and community space amenity and the.

Q

Land transfer is the development team installing and executing any sort of monument or gardens.

Q

Whatever that land transfer space is going to be used for within the development scope,.

Q

I'll try to follow the question: are you talking about when you give property monumentation when.

Q

You give the city that land in the land transfer yeah are. Is the development team doing anything to.

Q

That land, so the land transfer area, three which is going to be this one. The development will be.

AH

Reconstructing this intersection, so they will be doing the work in that area. The other two are for.

AH

The city to be constructing this roundabout, so both so you're, including them in your calculation.

Q

However, it is the city's responsibility to be changing them. Two of the three correct: okay.

AH

Yes, but the yeah so but and the project is doing all the work on russell street.

AH

Including this corner, as well as all of the work primarily focused on the open space calculation.

Q

And the percentage thereof, and so trying to get understanding of how it was robbed out. Yes, yeah.

Q

And then my second question is: was there a shadow study done on the entire development project.

AH

I believe this came up at hdc. um I was not involved in that process, so I'm not the reason.

Q

For the question- and maybe this can be answered- a different way is if your building is 60 feet, high.

Q

And 233 bond street is 50 feet high and you have a five foot sidewalk, that is sandwiched between.

Q

Those two buildings, I feel as though, that space will not be giving or getting sunlight throughout.

Q

The majority of the day, given the orientation of it, and so I'm wondering if we've looked at that so.

AH

The the rear access way- and I do believe I failed to mention this in my presentation- is 20 feet wide.

AH

Which is a requirement of the fire department, so they can get their apparatus behind there.

AH

So we we are 20 feet, minimum from the property line and then there's the entire railroad right.

AH

Away between our buildings and 233 vaughn, so I I don't know if that was studied during the.

AH

Htc process, or not, I feel, is so relevant just because you're directing your traffic.

Q

Both pedestrian and vehicular traffic to that space and if it's labeled as.

Q

Community space, but does not get any sunlight, it's really hard to spend a lot of time. There.

AI

Yeah, so sorry ryan plumber, to international group. um So I don't remember if we formally.

AI

Submitted anything we did do go through shadow studies. um I think when we looked at the shadow.

AI

Studies, the primary focus was on the muse at the time back side of the site. From what I remember.

AI

Seeing uh I don't think we had any issues there to neil's point. We have 20 feet on the back.

AI

Passageway and I think 233 bonds sat far enough back where there's probably not going to be much.

AI

Of a shadow cast there, um you know the muse. uh That area is, you know relatively narrow, but we.

AI

Found that there's still quite a bit of natural light throughout the day that can get into that area, uh the additional lighting that we placed in there is meant to try to help out. You know when.

AI

It gets more towards nighttime hours and some of those shadows get cast there, but in terms.

AI

Of the back side of the side, I think we're far enough away where those shadow studies didn't.

AI

Indicate that we were going to have a major issue with the building like 233 gone mm-hmm.

P

uh I just like to back up mr simonis. I I think I recalled asking for a shadow study when we, when.

P

This came before us in march or february and it could have been submitted. So I maybe I'm failing.

Q

To remember- and you guys may have it on file, it would just be nice to have if it was, it would.

AH

Have been through the htc process and prepared by the architects I just feel like. It was pertinent.

Q

To the team we had here, are you proposing lighting on the back? uh Yes, so there is.

AH

There is lighting on the back. um There was a photometric plan that was uh included in.

AH

The package, um the yeah, so there is a lot obviously along the streets. We have the.

AH

City standard, historic fixtures um and then there there is, I believe, building.

AH

Mountain light building mounted lighting along the back uh to light that whole area.

R

um In the picture that you showed us of the.

R

um Space between building one and building two, you said you had talked about how it.

R

Was a really big grade kind of in the middle of that picture, it looks like there's like a total.

R

Cut off, are there stairs there or is it just a slope and if a slope, how steep of a slope it.

R

Is are you talking back right there yeah just like right across between the buildings, yeah.

AH

AH

So it is a it's a consistent grade from deer street back to the railroad um that area there.

AH

Is is kind of uh sunk down in and the way we have it graded, the if you're coming from deer street.

AH

Going this way, there's this planter bed and then you hit a set of stairs which goes down into here.

AH

And then, if you keep going, there's a ramp on the back side of it to get into this area, which is.

AH

Sunk down, but the pathway from the front to the back across the buildings is it's a consistent.

AH

It's a consistent, they're able to there's no stairs as well. Yes, so another question I have.

R

You have this sort of back access. The 20 foot in the back is that where you expect to live, I mean.

R

These buildings are going to need deliveries, they're going to need trash pickup. How is all.

R

Of that can be handled because I know once these places are built, those are questions that come.

R

Back to bite us sometimes, if we don't ask them up front yeah, so loading we have proposed a couple.

AH

um Loading zones out on the street, which will need to go to the parking and traffic safety committee.

AH

For approval, similar to other developments in in downtown area, they'd be signed for loading.

AH

um Early morning, hours before the meters came into effect, um trash pickup would be done in the.

AH

Rear using rollout bins, so it all be stored within the building truck, would pull up roll the bins out.

AH

Dump them on the truck bins back in the building trunk goes away.

AH

So there'd be no there. There will never be bins sitting outside um waiting for pickup.

AH

Or anything like that, they'll all be contained in the building, but that will be in that rear area.

AH

So I guess my issue with the loading zone is, if it's only in the morning, and you have a lot.

R

Of residential units there's a lot of deliveries that happen in the afternoon and the evenings when.

R

You're going to residential units- I know amazon comes to my house pretty late in the day, so I'm.

R

Just thinking you know you might want to make sure when you ask for that space that you asked.

R

For that space for a period of time um and make sure just because I feel like it's going to get.

R

Used at least a portion of it, maybe you don't need as much room as you need, for maybe a commercial.

R

Space, but I would like to keep that in mind as you're asking for that with pts yeah. I understand.

R

It's good, I'm good. Can I just jump in only because it's picking up right on this point? This was my.

AB

This was a major question that I have for this development. um Can we elaborate on deliveries.

AB

um Because, um in my vast experience in htc and so forth and living downtown, it's.

AB

Not three feet or ten feet more building height that makes the building feel large.

AB

It's what it's it's these deliveries and what happens on the on grade level.

AB

um It's there will be a massive amount of waste from that has to be taken from this.

AB

Building and if if there are eventually you know those commercial spaces, food service, it's going.

AB

To be intense and um I'd want to know where the drop-off areas are for vehicles on the street.

AB

Are we giving up parking spaces for that? I I think a development of this scale really needs.

AB

To accommodate it on the site, rather than depend on on the street, and I I looked for it, I just I.

AB

Couldn't find a clear, there almost needs to be a plan specifically labeled, a delivery plan, and you.

AB

Know the management of deliveries and and things being taken from the building. It's going to be.

AB

I'd hate for all that to spill into the street and for the project to not be successful, because the.

AB

Community is feeling the the pressure laterally into the street because that's what happens at.

AB

You know we see it all the time downtown truck deliveries, that they stop the truck right in the.

AB

Middle of the street and there's nothing else they can do so. The the two loading areas that.

AH

We have proposed are these two spaces here and then these two spaces up here.

AH

um And then I think to your point with with some of the the commercial users, I I believe the intent.

AH

Is not to have any um or I don't know if you want to speak to your intent on the some of the.

AH

Retail spaces, I wanna put words in your mouth. We obviously don't know who the tenants will.

AI

Necessarily be for those commercial spaces, yet I think there's a possibility. There could be a.

AI

Couple restaurants: in there we don't expect there to be more than that, just based on demand and the.

AI

Amount of space that we have- and I hope there is I mean that would be wonderful if there was yeah.

AI

We'd love the activity too, um to neil's point: we have those couple of loading areas. I think we went.

AI

Through it pretty thoroughly uh with tac, the space between building two and three could definitely be.

AI

Used I mean if all these spaces got occupied, there is some ability for overflow the back side of the.

AI

Site has a 20 foot wide lane that was designed to have two fire trucks be able to pass each other. So.

AI

I think there's a lot of opportunity there. You know if we had a residential furniture delivery.

AI

It was going to be parked there for hours at a time, I think probably they can go to the back.

AI

Side of the site there's an opportunity there. It's going to be easier for them because they.

AI

Can drive right through that area in those loading areas out towards the street, maybe better for you.

AI

Know the box trucks fedex gets the mail room, quick, they're kind of in and out, um but there's a lot of.

AI

Opportunity around the site for the trucks that'll be parked longer term. I think too,.

AH

And I I think too, during the tag process. At one point, the full-time loading zone question that.

AH

Came up and after further discussion we kind of reverted back to the six to nine. I I don't. I.

AH

Don't recall off the time I had the the details of those discussions, but it did come up and we.

AH

Ended up with with what you have in front of you, it's something to further consider because- and I.

AB

Wasn't even thinking about you know, people moving in and out of these units and moving trucks and.

A

It's an urban setting, it gets busy yeah.

N

S

um Currently on russell street, there's parking pretty much from deer down to the to market street.

S

I guess, or I mean there's some- is that most of that parking that's there today going to remain.

S

uh The the parking on russell street is largely unchanged. I think we're down a couple spaces.

AH

um And I was due to some of these um some of these bump outs and some of.

AH

The plantings uh at the sheridan driveway and the side driveway.

AH

um Where, where we lose more spaces- and I don't have the exact count off the top of my head- is.

AH

um At at the intersection here, because of how the current configuration is where it's.

AH

Just like one kind of really large radius turn the parking goes right up to the intersection.

AH

um So to to fix that, as as we fix that intersection and um sort of.

AH

Clean this up to a what's: what's a more safer condition for pedestrians, where you have these.

AH

um For the crosswalks, you end up losing a couple spaces on either end um so that that's kind of.

AH

Where we lost some is is improving the pedestrian experience in that area, because anyone that's kind.

AH

Of walked through their nose, it's you know, look, look both ways twice and take your life in your.

AH

Hands currently so in related to parking, you noted the the 1.3 spaces required uh under the ordinance.

S

Is um are you guys comfortable with that meeting? Your overall needs? Yes,.

S

What is that? It could be interference: cell phones, new microphones, yeah, anyone's cell.

AB

Phone up against the mic, not mine, mine's it out on the floor, I'm guilty troublemaker.

S

um So, yes, I was just kind of making sure that you're comfortable with that I mean I I in some.

S

Cases that that number might not be enough- and I just while it's a required amount, I want to.

S

Make sure that? Because you're filling in a lot of space, by putting this building in here and.

S

There's not going to be a lot of alternatives for space to recreate more parking yeah, so so.

AH

We have it's the 1.3 per unit plus there's the visitor parking requirement and then the other.

AH

Thing we did look at was the um the sheridan hotel has historical parking data, so we were.

AH

Able to look at that to see what their absolute peak was, what their you know, typical average was.

AH

And so that way, we can feel comfortable that we're providing enough for them, as well as our.

AH

New uses, so we were able to look at all that um and we are comfortable with what we have.

A

Being a good peter, yes, thank you. um Your drawing, you guys are referring to the.

AA

The back side of the building- I guess it's- the western 20 20 foot wide driveway. If you will yep.

AA

um The sc do you expect that conflict with the fact that you've got no parking fire lane signs.

AA

All along that side of the building, but you're talking about possibly using it for deliveries.

AA

So that was a requirement of the fire department to put those signs up. um I don't know how that.

AA

Works in town, but does people look the other way when a truck parks there, I'm not sure okay.

AA

You do have the signs, but you're saying you can use it for delivery.

AH

Yeah, I think I I think the intent of the signs is so people don't park their car there and go.

AH

For a walk, okay um versus delivery, I'm not I'm not sure on the the code requirements of that.

AH

For a delivery.

AB

Oh sorry, so just to build upon that, um can you can you walk me through mr hansen about the.

AF

Kind of the signage so that pedestrians coming in are aware that there may be vehicles on this.

AF

Yep and then also so, the vehicles may be aware that there's pedestrians, I mean it's great, that.

AF

You have the speed humps, but there's no stop signs before the um the other pedestrian way.

AF

Or both pedestrian waves come through and also um to build upon. That is the intent to have.

AF

Just commercial vehicles, and if so, is there any signage indicating that there's no personal.

AF

Vehicles to be used on this or or what so the um take your first question first, so we put the we.

AH

Located the speed tables right before, where those pedestrians come out. For that reason,.

AH

um Because that that's where the cars will have to slow down to get over.

AH

Those and it'll give pedestrians and cars alike the opportunity to see each other.

AH

um This, the the rear driveway is, is primarily for access to the basement level garage for residents.

AH

So the the entrance to the lower garage is here on off the back and then the exits here. Okay,.

AF

All right, sorry yeah, I didn't I didn't. I thought everything was coming in through the other.

AF

Entrance, no, the the two parking levels are not connected within the building. I see gotcha, okay,.

AF

um But other than that, there's no additional signage or anything to make people aware of.

AF

Kind of what's going on, I mean we we have it's signed at both ends for pedestrians,.

AH

And bicycles, uh there's do not enter signs on the green street side. There's private way.

AH

Speed limit signs on the maplewood side. um It's it's pretty heavily signed. Okay,.

AB

Let's elaborate a little bit more on on this delivery on this, you know the delivery questions.

AB

In the vehicular and truck traffic, I I think this is solvable just you have that back access drive.

AB

Is huge I mean it's this. It goes the full length of the building, whether or not freight elevators.

AB

Are back there or not, but I think this is just a matter of you know, designating and managing that.

AB

That passage for all deliveries.

AB

um You know in lieu of you know the parking spaces in the front. I understand there's going to be.

AB

Small box trucks in the front that will pull up really quick run in the package and leave.

AB

But um you, I think you clearly have the the space to manage a um delivery.

AB

Plan on the back side of this building, I'm not so I'm not suggesting any major changes.

AB

I'm suggesting perhaps it's it's just considered um in the plan that you have.

AB

In a more you know, robust way, I don't know if it's a stipulation or not, but.

AB

I'm very excited about the project. I just make sure it's success. We have to be careful. I know.

A

Where it is a fire lane yeah and it is, I agree that there's room for two trucks to.

A

Go buy each other in 20 feet, but if you designate it as a loading zone, I can see.

A

Possible conflicts of the fire department, the you know, just something to think about.

A

Yeah, I just have one more question so because all of the parking or most of the parking is all in.

R

The one building in building two, but you have a lot of residence in building three, exactly how.

R

Is their pathway to get from if they're parking at park building two, I mean: are they? How do they.

R

Get there so there is um a pedestrian connection that goes under this driveway there's a dashed.

AH

Line here yep, it's an it's a basically a basement wall and there's a hallway that.

AH

Connects the parking in building two into this elevator core in building three, so that people.

AH

That live in building three can walk through the tunnel into the elevator. Thank you. I missed that.

Q

Two questions: um your traffic and traffic flow data has been revised, reviewed by more people.

Q

Than a lot of things- and I am not an engineer- so I'm not here to tell you it's wrong- just curious.

Q

On the peak week weekday hour, it said there are 62 trips.

Q

And then you're saying that there's also 46 000 square feet of office space, which generally there.

Q

Are there's about 100 to 150 square feet of office space per person? So that's math.

Q

There's about 300 people in this office portion alone, which 62 trips per day or per morning and.

Q

300 people coming to an office on a daily basis- just doesn't I don't know, am I missing something.

AH

I'm not entirely sure I, it's probably I mean so, there's no parking for the office users on site.

AH

So that may have been factored in. I'd have to reread the history myself. I I don't know off the.

AH

Top of my head, not that it's the development team's problem, but where are they parking.

Q

So I can understand better found your garage likely um given where it is click on that.

AI

So some of these spaces are also for the sheraton, hotel and, generally speaking, there's some.

AI

Those work together, the hotel guests, are going to be out during the day the office.

AI

Users or retail users could potentially use some of those spaces at the neil's point. They.

AI

Weren't required per the city zoning, so there probably will be some overflow, but we think we.

AI

Can accommodate most of those office tenants inside with the hotel spaces? Because? Because.

AI

Those guests are out during the day, and that includes during summer months, so so those.

Q

Will not be necessarily assigned to the hotel guests versus the office users exactly yeah.

A

Yeah, so just to follow up on that from a parking perspective, you're treating the sheraton, I'm.

A

Going to just call the sheridan property and this property is one parking source, yes to share yeah.

Q

My second question and last question: uh you may have alluded to it, but is there a barrier between.

Q

The back 20 foot, pedestrian and car throughway and the railroad. So yes, um the the plan is to.

AH

Have a fence along that um vehicular access way uh that was kind of a request that the.

AH

Last attack meeting that that go in, I believe that request needs to go back to the htc to get.

AH

Their sign off on what the fence will look like so it'll, be your vets, yes and maintained by you.

Q

And does that need approval from the railroad? Do we know, don't know we? So we do. We do need.

AH

To work with the railroad on a couple, pedestrian crossings and uh the relocational other signals.

AH

um That was one of the recommended stipulations that all of our correspondents, with the railroad.

AH

Get copied to dpw so they're included, and all that we also on one of our easement plans. We do need a.

AH

Construction easement temporary construction easement from the railroad, so we will need to.

AH

Engage them for a number of different things. The reason for the question and to highlight.

Q

A lot of the pedestrian thruways that you have created, which are, I think, great in concept those.

Q

Would not be so great if there there would be a blockage or not this great conduit between.

Q

This development, 3s arts based side of the town and then von maul area and so to maintain and.

Q

Really create that continuity. I feel as though that pedestrian walkway with the railroad is.

Q

Critical to the rest of this development, so when I say pedestrian walkway, I want to be clear. I'm.

AH

Referring to the existing crossing on maplewood yeah, not any sort of we're not proposing any sort.

AH

Of new crossing, we are actually actively trying to discourage people from what is illegally.

AH

Crossing the tracks, okay, so it'd be a liability for for the development. So that's the intent is to.

AH

People coming up through here, if they're going to the north end, they would likely just have.

AH

To come around here and walk the extra couple hundred feet that everyone shortcuts now yeah.

AH

And then yeah and then again same thing going this way if you're, you know heading.

AH

Out market street, that's you know, kind of where you'd be using that that direction.

AH

For and you definitely said, there are a bunch of wayfinding signs and yeah yeah.

AF

Hi corey, so just just to clarify um so the parking is intended. Some of the parking may be open to the.

AF

Public for those re, I guess for the retail users: no, no they're, no they're, not none of the parking.

AH

Will be public okay on site, so if you're, a retail user you won't be able to park there correct.

AF

Okay, retail patron yeah retail patreon uh because it's closed because those garages are going to.

AI

Have swipe access, tenants would be able to guess could be more challenging. So if there's workers.

AI

They're in that space, they would potentially be able to use it. Okay, fantastic that that.

AF

Makes sense, thank you, um and so just a couple of things I was looking at the 2021 versus the.

AF

What you guys showed to us this time last year versus what we're showing now um one thing you.

AF

Decided to include the actual driveway itself on the um that comes into the second level of.

AF

Parking as community space did anything change in the design between last year and this year.

AF

To make it more of a community space, I believe when we initially had it drawn, it was just a.

AH

Paved asphalt, driveway curbs okay. um So that's why we brought it up with the flush to the curb.

AH

um We we took the pavers into the site and then also I don't recall whether or not there is a.

AH

Connection this this connection down to the um the rear access. I don't know if that I don't recall if.

AH

That connection was there at that point or not you chose it was. I was just okay. What possibly changed.

AF

And my other question is, I know you originally only I mean it said potential, but you had like.

AF

A community park in front of the sheridan on the on the on the market street uh russell corner.

AH

There just so I'm just curious, so that kind of went away through the tag process. It was sort of.

AH

Alluded to us that that space wasn't wasn't really desirable for um for a park. Okay, so it was. It was.

AH

Removed from from the plans through that that process sure and then my my last question is.

AF

um Given the volume of parking here- and um you know what we're seeing in other developments are.

AF

There any ev charges going in or anything like that or any solar on the building, and there was.

AF

A lot of electrical upgrades, obviously through this around this entire site, so I'm curious.

AF

What's happening on that front, given it's, you know pretty much a dead flat roof on top, so.

AI

So it while the roof is flat, we have a lot of mechanical equipment up there. So we looked.

AI

At putting solar on the roof, it would be very scattered and inefficient to do panels up there.

AI

Because of our mechanical, uh we are prepping for ev chargers, um so we've oversized the electrical.

AI

Service to be able to accommodate, um I can't remember the percentage, but it was over 50.

AI

Percent eb charges eventually we're not going to put all the men up front partially because of the.

AI

Cost partially because we don't know everyone's going to use them, but we're at least going to have.

AI

The capacity there to have it and we're going to have a handful out of the gate, the exact.

AI

Percentage is kind of tbd, but we're at least going to have the preparation for it. Okay, thank you. Yep.

P

um Mr hanson um there's gonna be 80 residential units. Is that correct? Yes, are they all the same.

P

Size number of bedrooms, yeah, it's a it's a mix. um I think it's what one to three beds.

AI

Mostly two, and mostly two and three bedrooms.

AI

um They range anywhere from 1100 square feet. uh I think the largest is somewhere around.

AI

Like 23, 2400., okay, so majority are two to three bedrooms yep. um I just want to make you aware that.

P

Well, 8k ph, which is on tonight's board also is they have two spaces per unit.

P

And um the west end parking garage, I'm sorry, the west end yards parking study uh show that two.

P

Bedroom units needed two spaces, so I just want to make you aware that using a current rags at.

P

1.3, you may be short parking and you may want to think about contingencies, because western.

P

Yards had to build 100 another 120 spaces, so I just want you to be aware of that. Okay, thank you.

S

Here another parking question, so I I like to know if you've determined how.

S

Many public spaces are actually going to be glossed and russell street and deer street.

S

Since you've got retail space coming in and there's no retail parking.

S

That's those public spaces are, you know, would likely be used by that they're also be used by.

S

People, our residents and or businesses up on the hill. So it's it's yeah kind of critical.

S

When you have spaces getting lost that they're, not that they're not lost patrick's, counting.

AH

AH

Well, he's counting the the uh reconfiguration of the parking on the roadway uh does need to.

AH

Be reviewed and approved by parking traffic safety committee as well.

AH

um So it will get a second look there as well. Mr chairman, can I ask a related question. The.

B

um Of the three spaces that are being lost on deer are are, some are all of them being.

B

Lost to loading zones versus bump outs or uh the way the loading zones are only loading for.

AH

Three hours in the morning, so they're counted as a parking space, okay, yeah and now that was I.

AH

You may have just jogged my memory. I believe that is why we went away from a full-time loading zone.

AH

So we weren't cutting into the the parking supply any further. Okay, thank you, and only because we're.

AB

If I could jeremy yeah because we're I just want to grab this point of the conversation.

AB

That might help solve the the making that a full-time loading zone might.

AB

Actually help, I understand it the stress that it would that the deliveries fiasco.

AB

Might cause it might be worth the loss of you know parking space for a couple.

AB

um So I don't know where that conversation was had to either make it. You know to assign hours.

AB

To the loading zone, but buildings of this size are going to require constant, constant deliveries and.

AB

Removals of things you know that I understand that that was not fully resolved with parking traffic.

A

And safety or loading zone question, or we do have that no. This has not been to the parking committee.

AH

We can simply advance this and make a.

AB

Recommendation that those vests very good, thank you.

A

uh Go ahead, no one else. um There was a letter in our packet from attorney phoenix regarding.

R

The condominiums and the um parking spaces for them they're, obviously very concerned.

R

About which spaces they're going to have used? Because they don't want tandem, use.

R

Tandem type spaces, which you have quite a few in different parts of this parking.

R

Arrangement so have you or will you be designating specific spaces for them to.

R

Use so ryan to international's attorney also submitted a lot of responding to that. I believe.

AH

um And I think we've made it clear that those spaces will not be put in the tandem spaces.

A

You might have heard earlier. We had the capital improvement plan, we talked about the the russell.

A

Market intersection a little bit and we've now, we've made a recommendation. The council considered.

A

Two million dollars for studying that intersection. I looked at it earlier and gave us some thought at.

A

A roundabout is certainly one option, but where the study really looked at, only the current.

A

Study you guys did only looked at a stop sign or a roundabout. It didn't look at possible realignments.

A

Possible signal which the planet public works director mentioned was another possibility.

A

Would you object to a condition that didn't affect most of the project and just held off on that end?.

A

For that study to be completed so the roundabout is not in our scope of work. It would be a city.

AH

Project and we are showing the roundabout um at the request of the city, I understand yeah. So if.

AH

Yes, if that roundabout were to be converted to something else by the city, we would not.

AH

Object to that I don't know if that was your question or not. So if, instead of conveying.

A

The landing fee today, it was just a reservation at this point, pending the results of the study.

A

So you could come back if it became a roundabout great if it became something.

A

Else it might require a slight realignment you're. Okay, with that, I mean other than the.

AH

Land transfer the roundabout's not really part of this application, so I I'm not entirely check.

A

Any other relative section would be tighter and yeah not involve any land transfer. That's but.

A

You and joe you had something yeah on this subject. I I my initial reactions to the roundabout. I was.

AB

Scratching my head as well, when I initially saw it, but the fact of the matter is whatever.

AB

Whatever design ends up being we're going to need as much of that property around that intersection.

AB

As possible, I would I would, I don't think, there's a scenario where we would not want that for.

AB

Whatever the few, even if it's a you know, if we're doing whatever the design is, it.

AB

Might not be a you know, a roundabout, but why we would not simply take those parcels as presented.

A

Well, I can explain that if you, if you take the circular segments, you're, basically committing.

A

To a roundabout, if, if the market street master plan was followed, which proposed a t intersection.

A

The intersection would actually get tighter and the the land area that's currently used.

A

For the intersection would be well in excess of what's needed, the city wouldn't need any of this.

A

Land at all, I don't know, I mean it's a it's a t intersection a t intersections behave differently.

A

Than four-way intersections and t intersections are unusual, there are a type of roundabout.

A

There are details about the way this roundabout is sketched that I have issues with, but that's.

A

Not a part of this application, so uh I just feel in concert with what we just did earlier. If we.

A

Have the reservation make it a condition that it's reserved don't put any buildings on it? It's there.

A

If it's needed, but if it's conveyed with specific.

A

Geometry today, I think it's locking in the the idea community space exhibit.

A

Hey uh just as you folks are talking patrick bond.

AJ

um Just looking at the land transfer areas um in the green, if you know, certainly if it's not teed,.

AJ

um It it would just become part of that park. It's already shown as community space.

AJ

So there's really no change there and I I do think at the corner, just reserving the ability.

AJ

To have that land areas for additional land for the t intersection would benefit the city.

A

That's what I'm saying a reservation but yeah exactly. I think we're saying the same thing: yeah.

AB

Thank you, but I don't understand why an excess of land would be a problem for the city. Why would.

AB

We not want why would we not want an excessive land at that intersection? Well, as a champion of.

A

Private property rights- I'm I'm just concerned about taking a private property. You know if we.

A

Don't need it, the city shouldn't. Take it unless there's confidence. I can provide guidance from.

B

The public works director, the thought is that the extra space will most likely be needed to redirect.

B

Traffic and deal with the area during construction, so it would be the recommendation of the city to.

B

Tackle all of the land, even though at the end of the day, it may be excess for that purpose. It could even know.

AB

Wait wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What did you want to say something yeah? I was just going.

AH

To say we are, we are providing a construction easement over the entire. The entirety of this.

AH

uh 119 lot 4 for the city for whatever they they yeah. I think I think that's a different.

A

What you're saying what the manager saying is a different issue than what I've been saying and.

A

What, but vice chairman was saying um it doesn't preclude anything I'm just saying, rather than.

A

Have an absolute fee transfer today, just reserve it you're not proposing to put a building there.

A

It doesn't affect your approvals that hopefully, will be coming on the rest of the project. Yep.

A

It just keep, it keeps keeps options open and makes the study real. That's that's the that's my reason.

A

And if, if the board doesn't agree, the board doesn't agree, I I I don't understand the logic.

AB

On it, I would have to say I don't agree. I I I'm just one of a few so.

A

Well, I've designed these things and you don't need the space unless it's a roundabout, so you.

A

Know, and that might be a conclusion and the public works director did say that.

B

Right, I think, to to handle this way, preserves all options.

A

Okay, anything else, questions of the applicant, I'm sorry, I kind of took us off on a tangent. There.

P

I think this is for mr plummer a question. um I was looking at the areas of the fifth floor on.

P

Building two and building three, the top fifth floor, yep and I came up with 35 000 straight.

P

Square feet for you talking both buildings combined. Yes, it sounds about right. Yes, okay, so.

P

um Would you know what that's going to retail for as far as a price per square foot off the.

AI

Top of my head, I'm not sure I mean you got to keep in mind that all of that square footage isn't sellable too. So if you're divided out the common areas, aren't the 35 thousands total with.

AI

Common areas, mechanical electrical everything all right, wood, sound, would 800 a square foot seem.

P

Reasonable on just this on just a livable square footage, that's higher than we're likely going to.

AI

Get and in term what we're looking at right now! Well, I was just trying to project a recession.

AI

Too potentially, but I I only use that number, because um a condo across the tracks and jimberg's.

P

Property sold for that a couple months ago, so I just thought for a number. I could use that sure.

P

um And construction costs would be about 400 500, a square foot.

AI

um Off the top of my head, I don't want to quote that, because I've got construction.

AI

Costs land costs soft costs, everything kind of grouped in so all right. Well again, I'm.

P

Just trying to ballpark this because then I'm trying to understand the value to you.

P

With granting the uh the additional stories- and it comes out between 10 and 15 million dollars,.

P

That's not fair you're talking in in profit or well. You know the excess value after you build.

P

It and you have your such value, what what you put into it, that will be your net gain.

AI

I I don't know if we have that much in it, but I think I'd like to think this is this is getting a.

A

Little bit beyond what I'll have a point to you, mr chair trust, me okay! Well, let's, let's assume.

A

For the sake of a very brief continuation, what, where are you going with it? Well.

A

um If, if we can agree on, say 10 million trying to equate the value that the applicant's going.

P

To get compared to the value of what the city is going to get for community space.

A

It's an interesting notion. It's not in our regulations, though, unless unless you can point the.

A

Section of the regulations, it kind of is inferred that, where does it say well we're helping? You know.

P

The applicants giving us space the city space and we're giving him something so sure in in my mind,.

P

It's kind of like a swap he's gaining something and the city's gaining something. So I'm trying to.

P

See if these two kind of mesh in a way that's equitable, but I think doesn't that require.

A

Expertise beyond anything on this board in terms of assigning a value to that community space well,.

P

It's it's we're all humans. We all can kind of kind of look at it and say. Is this a fair swap.

A

Unless you can play to something in the ordinance, I don't think it's appropriate to pursue.

A

um Sorry I appreciate it's creative. I don't think it's in the ordinance. Okay, all right.

A

Thank you thanks any other questions of the app yes cory. Last last one for me, anyways.

AF

um Since I we're I've been looking at that roundabout and everything else, I noticed on.

AF

The lot line revision that the very top sliver is in the 100 foot wetland buffer.

AH

um Are you talking about the roundabout yeah, I'm just so I again, the roundabout is not part of this.

AH

Application we didn't design it. No, I understand um the mitigation of the invasive species in.

AF

That to create the park is that have to do go through conservation commission and get a well.

AF

Unconditional use permit for that tiny spot up in the corner. We would probably just stay out of it.

AF

So that is to remain so I I don't know exactly where the line is, and I don't.

AH

I'm not even sure if the line on this plan, so it's on the lot line, revision part but.

AH

Yeah, it really is just a small sliver. We would likely just stay out of it to avoid having to go.

AH

Through that process, okay, I mean it's a little bit bigger than a small sliver. It might make.

AF

The park look a little funky, given the number of invasives up there, but just be aware of it. Oh yeah.

A

Anything else from the board to open the public hearing. Are we good.

A

To go for the public hearing on this anybody here to speak too far against this application.

A

Z

Good evening elizabeth bradder property owner 159 mcdonough street, in light of all the stuff.

Z

That's coming up in regards to parking and and deliveries, and all of that I would ask that you.

Z

Defer this until they've come back from parking and traffic safety, it just seems that there are.

Z

A lot of unknowns, and that are that that could impact this. It was originally suggested that.

Z

Perhaps they put parking underneath some of the other buildings. I think they have.

Z

Some ledge to deal with, but I don't know what other issues are underground there.

Z

um I do know that the second floor has a terrace or whatever you want to call it. It's a very nice.

Z

Open deck for those of you who are interested in environmental things, originally, it was kind of.

Z

Hinted that it might be a living roof, but now it's a beautiful deck for the tenants.

Z

Although a lot of them have balconies, if I'm correct, so I would just ask that you think about.

Z

All of the things that came to mind, many of you had issues regaining regarding the parking and the.

Z

Signage- and that word- and I did want to clarify that the reason why the area behind that little.

Z

Beautiful parking area is what the 20 foot it's 20 feet wide, because when the fire department.

Z

Shows up they have these legs that hang off the side of the truck in order to go up that height.

Z

They have to put them down and they need a minimum of 18 feet and that's why, when they look at.

Z

Streets like um I can't even think of the name of it right now, but it's behind the plumbing place on.

Z

The corner of bridge and stop that anyway, they need they need a minimum of 18 feet. That's what.

Z

They need in order to put their legs out, to support the truck, and if you want to see what.

Z

It looks like at christmas time the city of dover puts up their christmas decorations on city hall,.

Z

And they use a fire truck and to do that they have to put those legs out to get that height. So that's.

Z

Why that road has to be 20 feet, it's not so that two can go by each other. It's so that one can put.

Z

Up its ladder, so please consider letting tack not tack, but parking and traffic safety look at.

Z

This before you guys make your mind up, thank you. Thank you. Anybody else here or on zoom too. Yes,.

T

Good evening folks, my name is larry gormley from hopeful phoenix, gormley and roberts. Miss moreau.

AK

I understand the mistake that was my letter, not phoenix's, um but that's why I'm here is the letter.

AK

That I sent to this board on october 12th. In that letter I outlined why stacking the parking for a.

AK

Commercial for units there there are 29 units, nine in the commercial which can't be stacked, 20. That.

AK

Are utilized at a first come first serve basis. We've utilized this easement for 35 years without.

AK

Issue, that's changed in the last 18 months and we really don't know. What's going to go on, we've.

AK

Gotten commitments that the parking would not be stacked, but then the developers representative.

AK

Stood up and said those condo parking spaces can be put anywhere, so there seems to be a disconnect.

AK

As a result, I would ask this board to make the the non-stacking of these.

AK

Spots, a condition of approval so that these people who have relied on this power came.

AK

For three and a half decades at least have that security going forward that someone.

AK

Can't change their mind and say: well now now it is going to be stacked. So I I share.

AK

People's concerns about the parking we are in a litigation with port harbor land that.

AK

Doesn't concern you, but it is going to impact well if we prevail, and I feel strongly that.

AK

We will, if we prevail, that is going to impact the parking in this garage access where we park.

AK

um And how our parking is handled within the garage, so I think that's going to clarify in.

AK

The next 60 or 90 days, at least that's my hope, so it is our profound wish that the non-stack.

AK

Can be made a condition of approval and I suggest there's nothing reckless about waiting to let this.

AK

Play out because I think parking is going to be a significant issue for this development. Thank you.

A

Thank you. Anybody else here to speak too far against this application. Still no hands raised.

A

Gonna close the public hearing. Public hearings closed. It's one public hearing. We have two two.

A

Matters most of the lord's pleasure. We have, I think, subdivision. First, if we choose to proceed.

A

Can we ask a question city attorney or retired city attorney.

A

Sullivan attorney sullivan, can I ask you, could you come down so I could ask you a quick question.

O

I made his night.

R

Could you just let us know if we legally can make a kind of stipulation that was just requested of.

R

Us regarding using non-stop packing for the 24, I believe it's 24 parking spaces is. Are we allowed.

R

To do that legally, that's all I want to know. No, I think that matter is outside the city's concern.

AL

Frankly, it's a matter of litigation between those parties. The developer has an obligation to.

AL

Show you that you're providing the parking, that's required, not obligated to show you that he hasn't.

AL

Otherwise allocated it and it's uh it's between those two parties in a different form than this.

AL

To resolve that issue, thank you. I also have a question on that matter. I understood the.

A

Applicant to say they were not stacking, the parking for those units. I thought you said.

A

That that was part of the presentation, so it's it's part of the record already.

Q

Just to clarify a tandem spot counts as two spaces. Excuse me, a tandem spot counts as two spaces.

Q

Therefore, is in this capacity it's all the same to us.

R

I don't disagree. I just wanted to know whether or not legally we could do that.

R

Since it was asked, I was also clarifying that yeah.

AB

And just to elaborate a little bit more on that on that question. Just for clarity.

AB

The project meets our parking requirements as shared parking. I believe it does.

AB

So anything outside of that's correct: it's not ours in any any right. We can't go outside. They.

AB

Meet our requirements as simple as that, if an applicant says they're going to do something.

A

And they don't do it. That can be a problem later. It's effectively the same thing as.

A

What the attorney requested for, because they've made it a part of their proposal, okay, foreign.

A

I don't know what that was me. It was over there.

R

I don't find ourselves in a little bit more discussion here, but is it appropriate just to.

AB

Clarify one other thing about earlier statements that were made yeah at this point. We can continue.

AB

To discuss okay and it was, it was my concern that I brought up having to do with deliveries, and I I.

AB

Think this is not a difficult thing to solve. I think the developer could could easily solve it.

AB

With the amount of activity around the building and their next stop is traffic and safety, where I.

AB

Think I think in if there's a motion to be made, a stipulation could be that a plan b developed.

AB

Specifically for deliveries for their next stop and that it be correct to be decided there.

AB

In other words, I don't want. I. I don't believe that the the that concern should stop this.

AB

Project, for you know a number of months, it just doesn't make any sense. I think that it's solvable.

A

Unfortunately, we didn't ask if that was scheduled, um say that again we didn't ask.

A

If that was scheduled, unfortunately, I assume it is. Oh, the traffic and safety meeting right.

AB

Well, we were told that it was it's in the queue I think yeah yeah. Okay, we have two. We have a.

A

Subdivision applications pretty simple other than the roundabout question. um I need to make.

R

A motion if you'd like well, I had a well. We can talk about after a motion if we get there, but.

A

um Before we do that, I don't know what it what good it does the applicant unless we move on.

A

To the site plan application, but let's go ahead and do this lot line first, it is the first thing.

A

So if you wish to proceed, uh I'd make a motion that we vote to find that the subdivision, which.

R

Is the lot line revision application meets the standards and requirements set forth.

R

And the subdivision rules and regulations to adopt the findings of spec as presented.

T

A

I can't make a motion, but in keeping what I said earlier.

A

I had marked up a revision to say to grant us approval with uh the lot line. Relocation.

A

Shown for map 125 lot, 21 and 118 28 124 12 of the following conditions: not stipulations and.

A

A new condition saying portions of lots: 119, 4 and 119-11c approximately is shown to be.

A

Conveyed to the city of portsmouth or to be reserves for possible future conveyance to.

A

The city following additional study of the market street russell street intersection.

A

By the city and presentations of planning board for review and final determination.

AB

Are the conveyance of those.

AB

Lands helping them meet their requirement for the.

AB

For the um the increased footprint right so we're basically by deferring, I think, if you.

AG

Remove them they would still meet, they would still exceed the percentage for community space.

AB

And is there a scenario by deferring it where there's.

AB

More, it doesn't change that actually, because it's.

A

I think they counted it anyway, but is there a scenario in the you know if we're deferring if.

AB

We're deferring that transfer where there's more or less land conveyed. So I said approximately.

AB

I'm just I'm I'm failing to understand why we wouldn't just close it right now and because it.

A

Creates more options it this. This is locked into a very specific geometry, as it meets and bounds.

A

On it, and if, if a revision to that is needed, you got to go back to the applicant anyway.

A

And the study isn't done, we just said to the city council study it for two million bucks. Why should.

A

We lock that into one result: isn't the roundabout the worst case scenario as far as land area right.

AB

Right, that's, I think, that's what that's that's. Why I'm not understanding it could never be more.

AB

If the roundabout is improperly sized, it could be more roundabouts function based on their size, so.

A

You know it might need to be pick a number five ten feet wider in diameter. If it's improperly.

AB

Sized as well that design won't work the way it's sketched, it's not a design. I think it also comes.

AF

Into play, if there's additional turning lanes needed or something like that, if you have to.

AF

Take off another corner or sliver like if you have a additional turning lanes coming on to russell.

AF

The market, or something like that, you know I'm just I I see where the chairman's going, because.

AF

You know if you wanted to have an intersection that maybe is not a roundabout, but you still had.

AF

Some sort of monument or something to bring people into the city in the middle of that intersection.

AF

Similar to like a lot of old towns have you know, you may need a little more space to make.

AF

It work that is all and having the curves kind of lock you into just being able to work with that.

AF

Sure uh I I understand what I think you're trying to say, but I don't think it's the.

B

Purview of this board to get that involved in the design. This has had numerous revisions and.

B

Considerations attack the city has weighed in. I would not be in support of this amendment.

A

Okay, it's from what I've seen it hasn't actually been designed, and I know that there have been two.

A

Options considered in the study a stop sign or around a roundabout and given those two options.

A

The roundabout works better from a traffic perspective. One thing that wasn't considered.

A

And I don't know that it would be considered, is making the russell market street alignment the.

A

Primary alignment that would bring visitors in past this site going more to the foundry garage.

A

Instead of having to turn left onto market to come into downtown, which doesn't have as much.

A

Parking as it did 15 20 years ago, that's an option. I don't know if it would work putting in signals.

A

Much simpler, much less geometric change, whether it needs turning lanes as corey mentioned. I don't.

A

Know, but it's not it's not I'm not proposing to lock in anything I'm proposing to provide.

A

More flexibility, that's the that's the idea behind what I'm saying. That's all, and but I don't want to.

A

I talked about it, nobody's adopted it so unless somebody adopts it, it's a dead issue. So.

A

um If we have a motion as written, did we have a second we did. We did and then I I said this could.

A

Be a modification I don't think I can actually make the modification. Yes, I wouldn't be in favor.

R

Of that, because I feel like dpw, spends a lot of time on tack looking at this and they know the.

R

You know what's going on with that intersection, they know what they might need, or the amount of.

R

Land that they might need- and I feel like they've planned for that- and I trust that our engineers.

R

In the city have thought about that and looked into that and decided: this is what they need in.

R

Order for any of the possibilities, hopefully down the road, so I mean nobody's perfect, but I think.

R

That they looked good enough, that that was what they decided. That's their recommendation to us.

R

Chair, could we call the question? Well, it isn't even a question yet.

A

Somebody has to control somebody, we have motion in a second just this is just to.

AG

Adopt the findings of fact correct for the subdivision: correct line, yes, as presented.

A

In 2.9, as read, okay, we have a motion in a second for the findings of fact.

A

All those in favor, aye, aye aye, opposed I'd, make a motion that we vote to grant.

R

Subdivision approval with the included stipulations 2.1 through 2.3, as in the memo.

A

A

People getting tired, I just think they're talking about enough. Okay,.

A

All those in favor aye hoes, I'm opposed.

A

Motion carries now. We have you want to move on the site plan. We want to kick it to parking traffic.

A

And we could continue it, have it come back, I'm happy to do it with the stipulation I mean I think.

R

Parking traffic and safety will take a look at it and we can certainly, as a stipulation, say that we.

R

Are concerned about proper loading and unloading zones for the amount of use and you use their.

R

Expertise to figure out what's the appropriate timing and sizing of the loading, I would request.

AB

That stipulation be a little bit more robust by a plan, be actual an actual drawing sheet, be.

AB

Developed specifically studying deliveries to the building and how they would occur and presented to.

A

Parties correct to and from the building correct we can do that when we get the get to that right.

R

We haven't quite got there yet, but if we're ready I'll continue and make a motion that.

R

We vote to find that site plan um application meets the requirements set forth in the site plan.

R

Regulations, uh section 2.9 evaluation criteria and adopt the findings of facts as we're amending.

R

As amended, which will be with the stipulation to pts, which will come up in the next section,.

T

The actual stipulation will come up in the next the amendment and is there a second like.

A

That was a second second any discussion. I have a discussion on that. um Does this mean I don't think.

P

That uh the community space met the criterion or zoning ordinance. So I don't. I don't think.

P

I don't think it matches 13 examples, so that's my uh that would be a reason to vote against it. Yep.

S

In that would also be related to the maximum building footprint too conditional use.

R

I couldn't hear what it oh, it should be related to the conditional use maximum building footprint.

AF

Vote that we have to take as well, I would imagine.

Y

A

So, motion of the second we have um evaluation criteria did those include.

A

That list in front of me we're just on the findings of fact or a site plan.

A

um What those findings included? I don't remember.

R

Oh just safely, it was just site playing yeah yep, just site playing rex.

A

Any discussion on that uh I was just again curious. um Can we legally approve.

P

This, the community spaces, if some of the community spaces did not qualify under these 13 definitions,.

A

It's our job to make a determination whether they do or do not, and we have a recommendation.

A

From the staff saying that they think they do correct, that's correct and we.

A

Have to either concur or disagree with that determination if you have a basis to disagree.

A

Beyond saying you just don't agree but say so! Well I, however, the same memo from staff.

P

As you did, and I asked for a specific which one of the 13 had met and I wasn't provided one.

AG

For the rear access way, it's a pedestrian now didn't meet the definition.

B

It's really not a place for debate. He can yeah support or not support. Now, it's okay! You don't.

A

A

17 points responded, did you, I assume you saw that right. Okay and you don't agree with that.

P

I I frankly didn't have enough time to review that carefully. I I'm more concerned about my.

P

Second question provided to staff last night when I there's 13 examples of community space.

P

And uh I don't find, besides the muse in the park near the traffic circle, I.

P

Don't find where any other community space meets. One of these definitions.

A

Right I mean we can feel comfortable that the main use of that is a pedestrian alley.

AG

We've had several other projects around the city that have similar pedestrian alleys that are also.

AG

Used for emergency access? Well, let's can I can. I read the definition of pedestrian alley here.

P

A pedestrian now a paved brick pedestrian connector between buildings.

P

And alleys provide shortcuts through long blocks and connect community spaces and.

P

Parking areas with streets, pedestrian alleys may be covered by a roof and or line by shop fronts.

P

The minimum width shall be 15 feet, I'm sorry, but I don't think the.

P

The fire lane driveway between the tracks and the building meets this definition.

A

I get your point I mean it, is they have detailed it in a way that enhances it, and it is constrained.

A

By having a railroad on one side of it, so I think that's a factor. That's unusual in the downtown.

A

Yes, I would argue that it actually is more of a pedestrian way, because it's only a fire access.

R

Road and it's also the way that people, um even possibly some of the office space, might be using.

R

Some of the parking and the parking entrances are on that side, so they're going to be leaving that.

R

Parking and walking up and down this alleyway and we should be able to enter either whether or not.

R

They're going towards market street or they're going towards maplewood ave because they're not.

R

Going to be able to go straight across so this becomes much more of a pathway in a walkway once.

R

This place is built. I agree right now. You can't see it because, right now, it's not it's not. There.

R

It's not built, but I see it as being probably used more by pedestrians than it will be used by cars.

R

But that's just my opinion. If, if I'm a pedestrian, I have a choice to walk up.

P

Deer street I'm not going to walk on the tracks, I'm going to walk in front of the.

P

Shop fronts and the stores I don't want to go to some vacant area along the railroad.

P

Tracks where the dumpsters are, and all the stuff that goes on in the back of buildings,.

P

um No I'm going to stay where it's we're people around and where I can look window shop.

A

Nice mural back there andrew yeah, while I agree with mr hewitt on the pedestrian versus thruway.

Q

I think I'm struggling as it pertains to his point. There's really no alternative for these two access.

Q

Points and obviously they've gone to tack and dot to analyze that much further than beyond.

Q

What we are capable of, in my opinion, but there's alternatives, create different community space.

Q

And I would agree with you there and so that's my conflict of they.

Q

Have these laid out for the purposes of d.o.t and park air circulation.

Q

But I agree with you in the sense that it would be dominated, I think, by traffic count more so.

Q

That or it would be dominated by vehicular traffic count more so than pedestrian traffic count, and so.

Q

At that point, in that balance, it then becomes more of a vehicle than pedestrian friendly area.

Q

So I I have the same conflict as you, mr hewitt, but.

Q

I'm just not sure how that rolls in a in a voting sense.

A

But bringing us back, we have a motion from minnesota pending motion just yep.

R

As amended, uh no second to deadly yes, I did hear joseph.

A

Thank you, I'm seeing fading fading brains here, all those in favor, aye, aye.

S

No was that what is the voting? Maybe we should do a roll call, yeah.

A

Okay, let's do a roll call? No! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes,.

AA

AG

Six to three 62. 3 they're, three, no three names, three numbers all right right now,.

A

Okay motion passes.

R

um Next, we'll move on to vote to grant site plan approval with uh following conditions.

R

We have the conditions subsequent, which will add to that.

R

If I get a second, oh I'd see that I think second all right and then we're gonna add.

R

To the conditions um subsequent to go to parking traffic and safety and that there be a plan for.

R

um Loading and offloading and deliveries to and from the building that they are able.

R

To look at and advise for appropriate um means for for loading and unloading and.

R

Then yeah, I think that's the only thing we're adding right did. I forget something.

A

Do you want them to approve it right, not just advise you want.

A

To correct they can approve what they feel is appropriate based off of their expertise.

A

Corey, oh sorry, uh can we just change 2.5 and get rid of the roundabout put in intersection yeah.

A

um I I had done that, but people didn't like that. Well, we could just put an easement for construction for the construction of.

R

An intersection, intersex intersection improvements, intersection improvements.

R

A

Agreeing with those amendments any other discussion, yes, um I I just like to reiterate.

P

That um there's a lot of good things about this project. Don't get me wrong! I I really.

P

Think it's a great improvement. It's going to be, I think, a great addition for the city, but.

P

I look at the intent of what this ordinance wanted.

P

To do with creating meaningful community space in our city.

P

I just it's really disappointing that we're setting a really bad precedent if every driveway.

P

And back alley, fire lane is going to be community space. I mean I I that's all I mean and I look at.

P

What the city's getting compared! We talked about how much financially the developer is going to.

P

Gain and what do we get so, that's all I'll say all I'll say about that is as we talk about.

A

Possible zoning amendments remember this you're concerned and let's talk about it, then that's.

A

That's the place to talk about this and really test what we've got in the existing regulation.

A

A

Are we satisfied with the amendments to the conditions, site plan.

A

All those in favor opposed opposed.

R

I'm gonna move on to shared parking.

R

Yes, vote to find uh make a motion the vote to find conditionally sperm permit application.

R

Meets criteria set forth in section 10.112.62 and adopt the findings of x as presented.

AG

Seconds the discussion.

S

I hate to lose any public parking.

S

I don't know that they can do anything. The developer can do anything to replace it either and.

S

You can't stick three public parking, three or four parking spaces in a gated area, so.

G

There's nothing, you can do nothing, you can do.

S

S

Ask for more parking there and I don't know.

A

If we take away the streetscape improvements and the bulb outs and make it less into a beautiful.

A

Street, you could add more parking, but I don't know that that's a good trade. You know you're right.

A

A

We ready all those in favor hi opposed.

A

Motion carries, I will continue and make a motion that we vote to find that the number.

R

Of street parking spaces provided will be adequate and appropriate for the proposed use.

R

Of the property and to grant the conditional use permit, as presented with the included stipulation.

R

Regarding the shared parking arrangement shall be a secure secured by a covenant acceptable.

R

To the city and recorded at the rockingham county registry of deeds, second, any discussion.

A

All those in favor aye aye opposed here's we're all good all right, we're almost there.

R

um Make a motion that we vote to find the conditional use permit application.

R

Meets the criteria set forth in section 10.5 a 43.43 and adopt.

R

And to adopt the findings of act as presented, and this is under the maximum built-in footprint.

A

Second, second, sorry thank you. Discussion.

A

All those in favor opposed.

R

I will continue and make a motion that we vote to grant the initial use permit to allow a building.

R

Footprint up to four thousand square feet within the cd5 as permitted under 10.584343 40.

AA

000 right, forty, forty forty thousand, what did I say? Four sorry, you know I'm just tired.

R

Just why the help you know my glasses are on and everything I have no excuse, I'm just tired. Second,.

A

Any discussion on that.

T

I I will just quickly say, since I'm probably the only person here who actually saw the last project.

R

That was here um breaking up the buildings and making the pedestrian passes through.

R

um Yeah, I think that it's going yeah. I have no issue with the the size of the footprint of these.

R

Buildings- and I do think that that backside will be more of a pedestrian, because you have people.

R

Walking through the pedestrian areas as well so there'll be circulation around the building. So.

A

You can do do a loop, you can do a loop. I see people with their dogs do in the loop and.

R

That and that whole area have you look at the plan closely. It's really good. I want to call the street.

AA

But it's a one-way path at the north end, there's a sign that says: don't go in there. It's one way.

AA

So anything that comes in from the west only goes one way all right. So it's going to deter vehicles.

AC

Yeah my conflict was more so about if it's a car in a pedestrian, the pedestrian has to.

Q

Yield to the car that is traveling into the entrance to the parking garage. Therefore, it.

Q

Is now a driveway, not a community space? That's my conflict and that's where I.

Q

Hesitate to see that true intent of the ordinance and and although I do believe.

Q

They can co-exist, they can't coexist at the same time. There is a yield there, and so that's my.

Q

Mental hair looks 20 feet. I think there's more enough room for people, but just saying for safety.

Q

And just overall comfort levels, I don't like walking on streets where people are always just.

Q

Passing by me, therefore, their sidewalks and maybe there's a dimension or some illustration change.

Q

In tone, much like he said on chestnut street, like hopefully that helps but to me whether 20 feet or.

Q

You know 10, it's really just amount of comfort for pedestrians to spend more time there. So.

A

It's not a pedestrian stopping area. It's a pedestrian, walking.

A

Through area or jogging through area, but in any case we have a motion in a second.

A

For a not four thousand forty thousand square foot building any further discussion.

A

All those in favor aye opposed motion carries.

R

I I'm done okay, it's it's almost 10 o'clock. As I said at the beginning, uh I am.

A

Not in the least bit concerned that you disagreed with me, but I'm very concerned.

A

That people seem very tired. I know we at least need a break, but how much longer.

A

We can continue to recontinue this. The balance level remains yeah. I think there's a lot left. Yes,.

A

Okay, so we'll have a I'll pick it up yeah. I want people to wake up because you're falling.

AB

Asleep, there's still more coffee in here, yeah I'll drink, the rest of them we're ready to go.

A

Yeah I have no coffee, I'm gonna, because I read four: let's have a thousand five minutes. I have.

A

A five minute break and then we'll come back and get her done here to you guys.

T

Like to reconsider the um concept of continuing to january for the rest of.

AA

Us because I just think we're going to be here till midnight.

A

Was that emotion? Yes, please. Second.

A

I only need one second. Third, we have a motion to continue to balance of the agenda to january.

A

I would, I would just say you never know, what's going to show up in january, and so it it can.

AF

Create quite a snowball effect, if you start doing that, many, although we don't usually have.

A

As much as we've already done tonight, but I agree um yeah we've been here since six.

S

And you were here longer four right, I was, but you know that's why I get paid more. Perhaps we.

AB

Can increase our efficiency and stay? I think we would be much more efficient on the back four.

R

What do we have left? We have deer street daniel street shave, street mcgee drive.

R

And greenland road, oh.

AA

Yeah with respect to my motion, I think gear street's gonna take an hour.

A

Any other discussion we have a motion.

A

On the second starting, the camera really tough, really tough vote holiday season.

A

All those in favor of continuing the rest of the agenda until january, say aye, aye opposed.

A

I didn't vote. I think that was a 3-3 yeah. I also did not vote no. I.

Q

Don't have a preference one right now well you're supposed to vote.

T

Yeah, do a quick roll call.

O

Jim, oh I'm sorry I joe no bro. No! What are we voting? Yeah we're going? No yeah! I was no.

R

Yes, yes, no done we're we're going paddle the metal.

A

So do we uh that's all right? We try to do mr adu yeah. Let's, let's see if we can get. Mr he's he's on.

B

This would be six eight sorry we'll we'll get to you.

AL

What are we doing? I believe it's 4-h, all right, 6.53 4h, I think that's. That is the one.

A

So we have application by jaws, lj, jaws, brenda, more revocable, trust and.

A

Sc brenda more revocable trust as honors and luke j brenda moore's applicant for.

A

Property at 653, greenland road requesting condition use permit to create a detached.

A

Accessory dwelling unit in an existing garage- I understand we have the applicant here by zoom.

A

A

Is your microphone on you there? He is I'm here. Sorry, I, the zoom thing made me: do it.

AM

A couple extra things that I was unfamiliar with apologies. I appreciate the group stamina.

A

And your application is.

A

Thank you, uh my apple, my application is for um detached adu for the existing structure.

AM

um The garage that's on the property.

A

Can you describe it a little bit further? uh The the garage structure is um facing.

AM

The front street on 42 harvard we have or on harvard we have two front streets technically.

AM

I think there's the greenland road sign and the harvard street sign this garage and recreational.

AM

Space were built in 2009 by the previous owner um and my the narrative I wrote essentially the.

AM

The one-liner is my: my parents are splitting their time in connecticut and florida and their desire.

AM

Is to now split their time between florida and with uh my wife and I, as we start our family.

AM

And my hope is eventually they would be able to occupy that space to help uh to be with us.

AM

A

Seeing no questions I'm going to open the public hearing, anybody.

A

Here, to speak too far against this application in person or on zoom.

A

Close public hearing sports pleasure.

AF

Oh vote to find that the conditional use permit application meets the criteria set forth in.

AF

Section 10.814.60 and adopt the findings of fact as presented. Second, any discussion.

AF

I you know it's an existing wreck area with a small kitchen in it, but no bedroom and.

AF

I think it's a great reuse of the space and meets the attention of the ordinance.

A

It's on a corner a lot, so he's got a little the double frontage issue, but this is also.

AF

One where we saw at adu come in front of us right at the right next door last month. Yes,.

A

Now I don't have a problem with it, I'm just yeah just yeah. That's a good point, though.

A

Motion second, to adopt the findings effect, all those in favor. I opposed they're adopted.

AF

Mr chairman, I'll make a motion we vote to grant because this will use permit with the following modification. Oh I'm, sorry that is not the one. The real we're all set.

AF

No, I'm sorry, that's right! Yeah, okay! I I thought I was getting on to the uh amended stuff. um Sorry.

AF

Make a motion we vote to grant this additional use permit with the following modification and.

AF

Conditions, as shown in the staff memo, including um condition 2.1, as in the staff medal.

A

Yep is there a second any discussion, all those in favor? I I opposed none approved.

AB

Thank you. Thank you.

A

Now I believe we are on to deer street if I lost track correct, correct okay, if it's not doing much.

A

We have requests of tom ballen, an 8k ph llc is owner and applicant for property located.

A

At 161 deer street requesting site plan review approval for the construction of a four-story.

A

Building to include a penthouse commercial space, 19 dwelling units and associated set improvements.

A

This property shown a sussex map, 125 lot, 17 3 and lies in character, district five.

A

Downtown overlay north end incentive and historic districts, lu 22-173.

A

Who is here to present for this african? Oh thank you, mr chairman, members of the board, john chang.

AN

From ambit engineering, haley ward also here tonight is tom bound applicant, carla goodnight.

AN

From cgi, architects and terence parker from terra firma, landscape, architects, the development team.

AN

Thank you for continuing to take this up. Map 125 17-3 project is to be known as 70 maplewood avenue.

AN

There'll be a new four-story building. This is the lot 5 from the 2016 dsa subdivision.

AN

uh This particular building was granted approval by the hdc on october 5th of this year. The plan.

AN

Set consists of a cover sheet, the historic subdivision plan. There is an easement plan.

AN

Which I'd like to just point out? There are some existing transformers on the northeast.

AN

Corner of the property, those transformers are going to be expanded and added to so.

AN

There's a slight expansion of that easement there's a drain that crosses the property.

AN

Currently, and that drain is in an easement to the city, the easement is going to be expanded.

AN

Because, at one point in time, additional land was purchased without creating an easement, but.

AN

The drain was already there, so that will be done and then this plan in your set shows access and.

AN

Existing access easement on the lot to the left, so it provides access to this proposed building.

AN

Because the entrance to the garage level is on the left or west side of it, the existing conditions.

AN

Plan shows some of the site features. There's a 48 inch drain pipe, which crosses the property.

AN

That's a predominant feature it drains. If you go to the next slide, please it drains a significant.

AN

Portion of the surrounding area up bridge street and that crosses.

AN

The lot not this lot, but the lot to the left. The adjacent lot.

AN

There's a demo plan: basically, all the site features are going to be removed for the.

AN

Construction, that's going on here. The site plan shows the creation of some 12 foot wide.

AN

Sidewalks in the front and a pocket park in the back and the site will dedicate 22.

AN

Percent of the lot area to community space, which allows some building height, increases.

AN

There's a slight increase in impervious surface that we're dealing with in the drainage.

AN

That will come. The next sheet is a rendering showing the view of the building from the street.

AN

Then we have some floor plans, there's commercial first floor with 19 residential units above.

AN

We show elevations. The elevation view shows that top penthouse level is really set back.

AN

And softened from view to bring the height down there's the next plans of the landscape.

AN

Plans first plan shows the planting of street trees along deer street and maplewood avenue.

AN

There's a pocket park in the back with sufficient benching and landscaping to provide for a respite.

AN

And that is open to the public. Additionally, the public will be able to circle the building.

AN

There's some bike racks in the upper right corner. Also, you see the gray boxes are the transformers.

AN

That are there and will be expanded. The next plans show landscape details we'll go through.

AN

Those and then get to the parking level plan. As I mentioned, you enter the building on the left side.

AN

And there's a ramp down to the lower parking level, there's 29 parking spaces, the ordinance.

AN

Requirement for this property is 29 spaces, so it's providing the ordinance requirement parking.

AN

And since the units are roughly between 22 and 2800 square feet, 2400 being the average there'll.

AN

Be two spaces per each unit which is appropriate for this downtown environment utilities. There's.

AN

New electrical connections, part of the plan, shows the extension of conduit to make a loop.

AN

That will go over to and connect to the foundry place electrical improvements. Grading plans shows.

AN

The site, grading and then, as mentioned before, there's a slight increase in impervious area and.

AN

That is being mitigated by a our tank detention system, which is on the north side of the building.

AN

Then we have the site details: supplemental information. Your package are all the approvals.

AN

The project has tech, trees and greenery and htc approval. There's a green building statement.

AN

Confirmation that the address is going to be appropriate code reviews, the complete drainage.

AN

Analysis, it was a traffic memo created for this site that looked at the trip generation.

AN

Previously, the traffic had been looked at on the entirety of that subdivision, and this.

AN

Change in use there was a development that was part of that study that had more units.

AN

And this change of use lowers the traffic by 40 percent, so that was passed on to you.

AN

Through the technical advisory committee process, without need for any other traffic mitigation,.

AN

There is a cut sheet of an exterior light that will be placed as you at the garage, so it would.

AN

Mitigate any concerns about that sidewalk along the west side of the building and the entrance of.

AN

The parking garage is an average grade plane sheet. That shows the calculations that allow for the.

AN

Height as shown on the plans, and I included the adjacent site plan that was approved by the board.

AN

Probably four or five years ago that show the future circulation as the deer street.

AN

uh Foundry place lot. 3 goes to construction. That's the presentation made it quick if you've.

AN

Got any questions be allowed to answer them? Hopefully we can get your approval here tonight.

O

Joe good evening, could I have you go to sheet c3 for a second.

AB

Let's zoom in on, thank you very much for accommodating deliveries on site.

AB

Now, on that, you're yeah right there on the upper left of the drawing is.

AB

It is it possible. Is it fairly painless to increase the length of that delivery.

AB

Spot all the way to the property line just to accommodate a little bit bigger vehicle.

AB

um It's a, I don't know if you're, if it doesn't yeah, that would be something you could do.

AB

Because it it it's, um you know if a larger truck happens to come, make a delivery that.

AB

If you just push it all the way back to the uh I'm thrilled that you're, able to at least.

AB

You know give this spot specifically for loading deliveries only and it's it's great yeah this. This.

AN

Is a 16 foot wide uh passageway? So if the truck was out here, it would still provide you know. Eight.

AN

Feet of travel to go by so, but we can certainly square up that pavement go to the property line.

AN

A little bit of a grade change there, so we want to cut back of just a tad, but we can do that.

A

How wide is that strip on the side of the building john, the going up and down so it's.

AN

16 feet from the building the edge of the parking spaces or you're talking about the sidewalk strip.

A

The sidewalk strip, just below the loading area going down to deer street, it's four feet.

A

I'm sorry, you had your hand up, and I didn't see it until I looked that way. Go ahead um when I.

R

When the previous plans were all approved for this, one of my big concerns was the circulation and and.

R

What's going to happen with the building next door- and I know the owner owns both buildings.

R

So are there any plans to redevelop the bank called the bank building for because it is a.

R

Bank right uh the bank building, or is it going to stay the way there is because I know that.

R

The approvals for that hotel really require the access through there, and I just wanted to make.

R

Sure that was all still gonna happen that way yes, so the short answer is that the bank building will.

AN

Stay for a period of time, unless they voluntarily decide to move at some point. Yes, that lot will be.

AN

Redeveloped, but because the access to the hotel will be through there, there'll be a certain amount.

AN

Of um space, that's going to be dedicated to that driveway and any site plan would.

AN

Have to come to the board for that lot: three development down the road; okay, so yeah thanks.

AN

I think the hotel access comes out and it was meant to be one-way circulation with two lanes.

AN

It could be revisited in the future and maybe it could be an in and out on the.

AN

Left side of lot, three um I mean when they come out of the garage. Are they going to go.

R

Around the bank, or are they going to turn right and come back back up? They.

AN

Will they will go around the bank around the bank might be a one-way circulation.

T

hmm uh Jim and inquiry- yes, um I'm sure you, mr ballen, are aware: there's.

P

Two locomotives that idle the northeast corner in the parking garage quite often.

P

And um I just are there provisions for soundproofing on this, so your future tenants.

P

Won't be calling city hall all the time yeah in the green building statement. It talks about.

AN

The extra sound deadening, construction techniques that will be undertaken, okay,.

P

Just don't want to be responsible for approving something that we know may be an issue. That's all.

P

And the other question, I just want to confirm that you have 19 residences and.

P

41 parking spaces, although only 29 are numbers, is that accurate, there's only 29 parking spaces.

P

But I'm looking at your sheet here, it looks like you're double stacking. Those parking.

P

Spaces behind the space in front of the spaces as you enter in on the left, are.

AN

For storage, what they can be used for parking, I think they might be able to be yes right. So.

P

I again it's just nice to have a backup plan for parking because um you don't want to get.

P

Caught short, so it appears to me you have 41 spaces for for 19 units, so it's confirming on.

AF

Boring uh thank you. um I know two lots down from this that proposed development.

AF

Did have infiltration- and I know it's kind of come up in this at this site- can.

AF

You can you speak to that a little bit just why infiltration won't work on this particular site.

AN

So I two lots down had infiltrate. I know that the design at one point had detention under yeah.

AF

I thought locker the building, but I thought it was separated from groundwater by barriers. I'm.

AN

Not sure it wasn't infiltrative as much as it was a storage yeah you actually I'm trying to yeah. I.

AF

Slightly recalls infiltration, they definitely had a gallery underneath the building yeah. It.

AN

Was for storage, but uh um so the developers has tried to work the heights and all as we.

AN

We did come to the board and talk about that at the concept uh stage. The groundwater table.

AN

And trying to balance the height versus staying out of the groundwater table so that the garage.

AN

Level does not have water intrusion. The beauty of the system. That's eventually designed is that the.

AN

Roof runoff is what's being detained and that's coming from a higher elevation. The.

AN

Our tanks are above the water table in the back, so um it provides that attenuation of peak flow.

AN

um I don't know that there's a need to infiltrate um yeah beyond. What's going to.

AN

Infiltrate through the park sure in the back and yeah, I could have been wrong on on lot. Love three.

AF

um My mistake there uh moving on to the um the the pedestrian four foot wide walkway on the back.

AF

um Do you have any lighting proposed along that at all? I didn't see anything in the elevation.

AF

Views or I know it's going to be a flush walkway with the adjacent driveway there's no curbing or.

AF

Bollards with lights, or anything like that, I just wanna see if, if there is lighting and if.

AF

Not if maybe we could try to figure out how to get some lighting, possibly along there.

AN

Yeah, absolutely that's a good point. The plan is to light that from the building. Absolutely okay, yeah.

Q

Andrew uh more of just a point of clarification on a2 that architectural drawings.

Q

You have on the first level plan, it says commercial area, 75 16, then commercial.

Q

Area, 49.54 and then just commercial is the commercial area. That's 4954.

Q

Square feet, as well as the bottom part that says commercial, one, space or two.

Q

I'm trying to get an image of it in my head is, I think, the courses, the spaces are somewhat.

AN

Speculative at this moment, but I believe that the 49 was uh at least the the restaurant.

Q

It's both come on. Okay, thank you.

A

You started to mention a genre: were you able to go into the ground a little bit more or is.

A

It just a different building design that makes it less of a wall at deer street yeah. So the.

AN

If you go to that yeah, you can see that first level plan and the architect worked really hard to.

AN

Keep it a little higher so and also put doors that are at grade as you go down.

AN

The street, so originally we were thinking of the first floor being at one level, but the.

AN

Street slopes down and the first floor level is following the street grade and then below.

AN

At the below level, it's shortened up so that you don't have that issue of you know you can.

AN

Have the full height over here, but the storefront don't have a full basement below them. Is that you.

A

Know it's a to my way. It's, I think it's a huge improvement. Thank you much better streetscape.

AN

Yes, yeah to follow the grade and have the doors at great is definitely much better. Yeah.

A

Yes, joe just very quickly, I'm realizing that my um request earlier appears to be. I look. I was looking.

AB

At another, drawing about extending that space is it complicate things. It looks like it's in.

AB

A easement to the city for drainage. Does that complicate that request to extend that at all.

AB

I don't think so, because the the driveway's already over that same drainage, pipe thanks.

AF

The drainage pipe that kind of brings up and kind of goes back to the storm water here.

AF

Is there going to be any complications during a storm surge event when that pipe is.

AF

Let's have a check valve from a call. I can't remember.

AN

If that pipe has a check valve or not, but during a big storm event, when you have a high tide.

AF

Did you did you account for that in your system to be able to retain that water.

AF

Until the tide goes down, so that you can then discharge? Yes, if you look at the detail sheet.

AN

The way that the art tank system uh is elevated, the art tank drain pipe will.

AN

The the the bottom of the drain collection, our tank system, is above the top of the four foot.

AN

Diameter pipe yep so that, if the pipe surcharges that water will just sit there, some of it will.

AN

Bleed in through pressure, but uh it's not going to back it up anymore, then, okay, great.

A

Not going to back it up any more than what you're about to say, something.

AN

It's not going to back it up into the building or into a space that would be harmed by the backup.

AN

Is what I was going to say: okay, yep and the when the pipe surcharges it uh bubbles out at a.

AN

Catch basin on um uh bridge street in front of 30 maplewood, that's the lowest point and the second.

AN

Lowest point is the catch basin in front of this building. The city has done a study and part of the.

AN

um Future improvements, possibly will be diverting drainage from that pipe.

AN

Try to correct that situation. The other thing is possibly resizing that pipe from a 48 to a.

AN

Five foot diameter pipe and that was studied by the tac committee and talked.

AN

About as far as how that interplays with this site, and it does work in the.

AN

Future, so the city will be able to upsize that pipe without impacting the building.

AN

Other than the disruption to the traffic yep there's been a lot of talk about that pipe.

A

Any other questions.

A

I'm gonna open up the public hearing anybody here to speak too far against this application.

Z

I'm awake: remember: I've been up since 4 30. me too good evening: elizabeth bradder property owner 159.

Z

Mcdonald street first, I would like to complement this team. I go to a lot of meetings and have often.

Z

Found that what happens is the people at the meeting say this is what we'd like to see and.

Z

The people on the other side of the table say yeah yeah and then the next meeting very little.

Z

Or nothing was done in this case. Every meeting I went to something was brought up. The next meeting.

Z

The change was made so I'd like to compliment them on really listening to the different boards.

Z

And listening to the community, which is usually me, unfortunately for them but altogether, I think.

Z

That they've been very cooperative and they've developed a very nice plan, even though it's a.

Z

Very big building, I'm not big on big buildings, but that's what's allowed and they did a nice.

Z

Job with it, I do have a question, and that is when you look at the height page and I'm sorry um peter.

Z

I didn't write down what number it is, but it's the page that shows the actual heights of the building.

Z

It has the numbers there, it is down there, so it's the top right one. I believe, but.

Z

It shows that the top height to to the top of the building- I, what I read- was 55 feet. 6 inches.

Z

Then the next height it shows you is to the top of the penthouse, which is 62 feet, which.

Z

Is allowed because they got the community space and then there's the three fit for their things.

Z

Which is also allowed, but when I do the math- and I could be wrong about this- there's the penthouse.

Z

Is only going to be six feet, six inches tall and I thought that code requires and I'm not a.

Z

Code expert, but I I think code requires that most billings have to be seven and then you have a roof.

Z

On top of that, so maybe I'm making a mass math mistake and I read it wrong, but that's my question.

Z

Other than that I support this, I think they did a great job. I got on board with this one because of.

Z

The parking- and they were right on that right away so other than the math I'm okay have a good night.

Z

Good evening, carla good night, cj, architects, I'll be brief. There is.

U

A parapet wall around the perimeter as a guard so that you don't fall off. Thank you.

A

Anybody else wish to speak 2-4 against this application.

A

Anybody on zoom nope, I'm a close-up hearing.

A

Or does work to do? I guess I will make the motion to vote to find that the site.

R

Plan application meets the requirements set forth in the cyclone regulations, section 2.9.

R

Evaluation criteria and adapt to findings effects, as presented second discussion.

A

All those in favor I I opposed.

A

Adopted I screwed up, I meant to do as amended and I I checked the wrong way. I thought you said.

R

It as amended- I didn't I said, but I meant to do as amended, so I think you did say that okay.

R

I did say that everyone heard me say as amended right, that's recorded someone's gonna tell us it.

R

Was as amended, that was what I said. Yes, yes, as amended, let's throw the replay flag, [laughter].

R

um Did we vote yet we did yeah, we did okay, so I can move on all right. Let's vote to grant site.

R

Plan approval with the following conditions and all of the conditions in here um the amendment and.

R

What I would like to add to it is that, on the um side of the building, where the ramp to the parking.

R

Is that dark side, dark sky compliant lights, on the building, to light that sidewalk be added.

B

A

We have multiple seconds, uh did you like? Would you like to? I thought he said they were putting lights.

A

On the building already yeah they're, just not in the plan, so I figured by making it a stipulation.

R

We make sure it gets done. That's that's all. I will speak to it if you'd like me, too sure.

R

um I uh am very pleased at the way this came out. I was a little concerned with the different.

R

Heights in the sidewalk in the long deer street, but I think it's really worked out and I give the.

R

um People credit, this is actually a really pretty building. I love the corner. The roundness and the.

R

Roundness that, then, is mimicked and where all the balconies are. So I think it's a really.

R

Pretty building, and so thank you that's all I have to say is- is this where we might add the.

AB

Extension of the delivery space as well or is that oh yeah, oh yes, I forgot about that request.

R

Yes to maximize that, for I will add an amendment that we want to maximize the width of the delivery.

AB

Space the length yeah size, yeah public, just maximize the size as much as possible, and this.

A

Whoever seconded it, I don't remember, I think there were a couple of seconds to agree with that. Yeah.

A

Okay, we'll add that amendment as well. Yes, corey. I just wanted to make the comment well.

AF

um This is that alley is well that sidewalk that four foot wide I do think is one of the.

AF

Things that does not meet the definition of the community space. However, when you add it.

AF

All up they still get the 20. So it's fine, but I I this one. I definitely because we're good sidewalk.

A

Is not a sidewalk well and also it doesn't even call in the community spaces you don't the only.

AF

Option is wide pedestrian sidewalk, in which it calls out a minimum of 10 foot in here. So.

AG

They're counting it as part of the pocket park, um the pathway to it, the pathway to it um and.

AG

Not a wide sidewalk, the only thing we would want is that we um preserve that for public access, so.

AG

It's for circulation around the building, they're identifying this part of the pocket park. You are.

AG

Right if they remove that they still meet the 20 right, so you know, but it will guarantee that.

AG

We'll have public access along that way right, so I'll have public access for both corners right. You.

A

Know people walking us in the driveway anyway. They won't walk right now hmm at the risk of.

AA

Adding 30 seconds to this I'll, just note that both access points are ada compliant as well.

P

Yeah in this, in a good spirit of this season, I like to uh second councilor morose comments.

P

And liz braters about this building- I um I must say it's it's quite attractive and.

P

It really, I think, is it's going to look great and they did a great job for, and I just want to.

P

Add that you know I, with the solar being added along with the ev chargers thing.

A

It's a tremendous improvement from when you first came to this board. You are to be congratulated.

A

Anything else all those in favor aye aye opposed we're good.

A

Ready to go, thank you. Thank you.

O

My ipad's getting tired. I.

AO

A

There's a request of seaport, realty llc owner for property, located 85 daniel street, requesting site.

A

Plan approval to add two-story edition and convert an existing structure into a four.

A

Unit apartment building, consisting of four apartments associated stormwater utility and.

A

Site improvements, the property is shown in assessor's map. 107 is lot 8 and lies in the.

A

Character, district 4 and historic districts, lu 22-75, who is here to speak to this application.

A

uh Good evening my name is mark knitting from academy architecture. I'm joined by alex ross from.

AO

Ross engineering and applicant and building owner lane cheney I'll try to keep um be fair enough.

AO

While keeping this brief, considering the hour, the existing building on 85 daniel street currently.

AO

Was built about the mid-1800s by the methodist church for sunday school is my understanding.

AO

It was later turned to a tenement building and most recently most people, remember it as.

AO

Emilio's, thank you, which was from about the mid 70s through the early 2000s.

AO

uh The currently there are two retail spaces on the ground floor with apartments on the second and.

AO

Third floor of the building, our proposed expansion on the project is a two-story addition on the rear.

AO

As well as dormers on the third floor to make the third floor spaces more usable, more friendly.

AO

Do you want me to continue through the site stuff.

AO

In this point, I'll, let alex go over the site plans with you.

AO

And then I can answer any architectural questions.

AC

AC

So uh for the record alex ross with ross engineering, we prepared the site plans.

AC

Really simple project, as mark described, the addition is off the back.

AC

um And actually the the end result is a decrease in impervious coverage.

AC

Which is, I always kind of sought for um and we we are able to provide six parking spaces.

J

um I don't know if everyone's familiar with this area, but back in this in this.

AC

Lane out back, it is kind of tight, um but that's how the buildings across the street.

AC

um Are set up and there's small parking in between garages and structures um and and the way we've.

AC

Designed uh this new addition actually provides um more than most have in that area, so there is.

AC

Room to get those parking spaces and and change a lot of asphalt surface into previous pavers.

AC

um We did work with uh tech quite a bit to go through the different utilities.

AC

But everything is uh existing and we're just making improvements to. What's there.

AC

So that's about it. I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.

AC

Yes, beth, so your garage garages are those actually tall enough to fit two cars in each really. The.

R

Lists they are they really like how big of a car I'm guessing my suv, probably not, but.

R

I mean just looking at them, they look kind of small like do. They have to be.

R

Like a mini, do you have to have a mini car in order to actually use.

R

Those two miatas, it's got a reinforced roof and it crushes the cars. I'm just.

R

I'm blown away because that car looks way too big to go with that garage. Yeah.

R

Especially if I have two all right, you tell me it is. That's all that's my only question.

Q

My question parking allotment predicate, or is it predicated on getting a parking lot.

R

Yes, because that gives them four parking spaces, but now a better question right here.

A

Any questions send to the applicant.

AB

Just a comment: that's beautiful beautiful result, yeah.

AB

Wonderful, that's an important building on daniel street looks great, clever, reuse, yeah.

AA

Yeah, it actually store two cars, all right, no more questions, I'm gonna, open public hearing.

A

For all those people ready to speak too, for I guess this application.

A

I'm gonna close some appearing.

AG

Reward, mr chairman, I'll, make a motion that we vote to find that the site plan.

AF

Application meets the requirements set forth in the site plan regulations, section, 2.9, evaluation.

AF

Criteria and adopt the findings of fact, as presented second discussion yeah, I think it's.

AF

A fantastic reuse of this building, but I did I was wondering if the cars went into the basement.

AF

Yeah, this is a valid question. Do you still wonder you won't be stacking range rovers in there yeah.

R

You're not getting an suv in there; okay, all those in favor this channel. On the commotion, we vote.

AF

To grant site plan approval with the following conditions, as outlined in the staff member second.

A

Any discussion anything new, all those in favor.

AF

Motion carries thank you very much. Moving right along.

A

I believe we have the question: jonathan's watson, sobel, revocable, trust his owner for.

A

Property at 49 chief street requesting preliminary final submission approval.

A

Subdivide one lot with an area of 542 square feet and 50 and 5500 feet of continuous street.

A

Frontage on street chief street and 22 and 9 300 street of frontage on custom.

A

House court into two lots as follows: lot, one with an area of 1855 square feet and 22 and 9.

A

300 feet of continuous street frontage on custom house court and proposed lot.

A

Two with 35 48 square feet and 50 and 5500 feet of continuous streets on chief street.

A

This is on assessors map 107 lot, 21 analyzed when the cd4 and historic districts lu22-179.

A

I'm guessing you're here to present this one. John. Thank you, mr chairman, members of the planting.

AN

Board john shagman emmett engineering, haley ward, presenting for uh and on behalf of jonathan watson,.

AN

Sabel, who may be he's out of town- and he might be viewing- maybe not but I'll- be brief. 49 chief.

AN

Street mr sabel wants to uh for estate planning purposes, create a new boundary line that would.

AN

Run along the 49 c street building out past the uh out to the back in a straight line that project.

AN

Received tech approval on december 6th, subject to one condition, because the existing water service.

AN

Or the building in the rear, 49 chief street rear, actually comes from the service 249 chief street.

AN

Because we are creating a separate lot and there's a one service per lot requirement. We.

AN

Need to redo the water service to access the building in the rear directly. That's the one.

AN

Condition that condition was that, as presented, is that that water line be installed before the mylar.

AN

Is recorded, understand that totally we'd like to beg your indulgence, to maybe add a few words.

AN

That the water line is either installed or bonded, uh because the sale of the lot may assist in the.

AN

uh The funding of that water, new water line, and so um that will not be able to be sold until the.

AN

Mile hour is recorded, so if it's possible to add that language, mr sobel would be very appreciative.

AN

um It is a tight alley. The construction is going to be. um You know expensive, because.

AN

It will be a lot of hand, work to to run in that four foot space other than that I'll.

AN

Answer any questions you have, and hopefully we can see your way to an approval tonight.

AN

You just passed so to expand on your requests a little bit more. You want to be able to record.

R

The subdivision plan, as long as you have a bond for the war to be done, is that what you're asking.

R

Us correct so that it's like you do when you have a subdivision that there has to be a road.

AN

Built you record the plan, but you bond for the road construction, so it would be get a price.

AN

Get a somebody lined up but be allowed to record the plan with a bond in place just as an option.

A

So he could sell one of the parcels correct, but it wouldn't have the correct water service.

R

When he sells it right, yeah, that's the conundrum just legally thinking about that yeah.

AN

I understand I was just going to ask: was this: was this requested of the previous board as well.

AN

The tech uh tech advisory committee made that a stipulation, but what was the request, was the.

AB

Bond piece requested yeah. We did not bring it up at that time. You know, unfortunately, so.

AB

This this additional request preserves their their um yeah. Okay, we're just adding to it, be.

A

Subject to the legal department and all that normal stuff right, any any other questions.

A

This is public hearing right. Public hearing is open anybody here to speak too far against this.

A

Application, no, there isn't anybody at home. Well, the county is closed.

R

um I make a motion that we vote to find the subdivision application.

R

Meets the standards and requirements set forth and subdivision rules and regulations to adopt the findings, in fact, as mend it.

AB

Second, actually, the findings are as presented. Oh, it's just that condition all right, then, as.

R

Presented I'll change that I always think when I have to change something I have to remind them.

A

It's the approval that needs the conditions.

A

The findings of fact have been adopted as presented.

A

A condition of approval will be. uh You can tell we're all tired.

A

So you're about to make that motion with your with.

R

The presented yeah as presented yeah no but you're about to make another motion.

A

All those in favor aye yeah, we are getting tired. Okay, I'll make a bush that we vote to.

R

Grant preliminary and final subdivision approval with the following stipulations: 2.1 water service.

R

Line shall be installed and functioning or bonded prior to the recordation of the subdivision, plot.

R

And 2.2 2.3 and 2.4 as written in the memo. Second, any discussion, all those in favor aye opposed none.

AN

Thank you very much for, if you're good, to take staying up late, appreciate it.

A

Yeah and I'm a gentlemen here, yes, question darren kenny is owner for property at 800, mcgee drive.

A

Requesting a wetland conditional use permit under section 10.1017, this project proposes.

A

To service 168 square feet within the 100 foot wetland buffer zone, this application proposes.

A

Constructing a 10 by 12 shed on top of a two inch crushed stone area and it is 12 by 14 feet within.

A

The wetland buffer africans proposing an area that is farthest from the wetland dents this.

A

Is a long description and is already done invasive species removal on site within the.

A

Agitated buffer strip, the property is shown assessor's map, 219 lot, 45, 6 and.

A

Lies in the single resonance srb district, lu, 22-208. That's a lot sure, uh not a lot.

AP

To share it's a 10 by 12, shed that sure, I'm sorry darren, kenny, uh 800, mcgee drive.

AP

um I was trying to jump through everything yeah. I appreciate that uh yeah, it's a 10 by 12, shed.

AP

uh On a crushed rock base, that's currently a yard, um basically part of our house, and- and this would.

AP

Be within that wetland area, it's as far away from the pond as possible without being in the driveway.

A

Questions of the applicant yes is, is the shed going to be like off the driveway.

AF

Or it's so the driveway to end there's a there's like a crushed rock drainage area.

AP

That goes at the end of the driveway that then flows into the pond and then.

AP

um The shed would basically be at the end of that. Okay, but the way that the property.

AP

Line cuts over its diagonal, so it has to be shifted over a bit from the the side. Okay,.

A

Did yeah just go to concom it yeah, let's get in there.

Q

I still have to read yeah. My only point was like don't keep gas in there or oils or contaminants.

A

Any other questions.

A

I think this was also a public hearing. Gonna open the public hearing really fast public.

A

Hearings open anybody speak too far against this application. No over here is closed.

A

um If you're concerned about fuel, it has to be a condition in the part of the approval, but I'm not whatever you want to do.

AA

I make a motion to find the conditional use. Permit application meets the criteria set forth.

AA

In section 10.1017-5, and to adopt the findings of facts as presented, second, any discussion.

A

All those in favor aye opposed none. Next, then, I'd like to make a motion to grant a conditional.

AA

Use permit wetland condition we use permit with following conditions uh for the conservation.

AA

Commission recommends its property and our follow nofa land care standards on.

AA

This site and 2.2 the conservation commission recommends that the property owner considered.

AA

Native plantings, where bittersweet currently is being removed. Second.

A

Any discussion I'm not familiar with the nlofa, but it sort of kind of loops in yeah.

AA

Bad stuff in there it does excellent artiste organic farming association, recommendations.

AF

No, it's more, it doesn't really have to do with what goes in the shed. It's more.

AF

The lot itself like using you know low phosphorus low release, nitrogen.

AF

Fertilizers, all that kind of stuff, but it doesn't really pertain to the shed.

A

So the nuclear waste in the shed is fine, got it essentially yeah. That's it any all. Those in.

A

Favor aye opposed none the door approved. Thank you very much. Thank you for your perseverance.

A

No try to put it in there here. That's private property.

A

I should have brought him almost done correct. Yes, that's good! It's nice to use.

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A

Got my ipad went from four to six. It must be getting really tired.

AF

29 in the staff.

AF

I have it printed right here if you want, I have it right here too,.

A

Okay, I think um we have this council referral in the adu amendments and.

A

Land use committee we've talked about this a little bit and I think we need.

A

To have a workshop discussion about this and I believe staff is queued up and ready to do.

A

That and then, of course, we have to have a public hearing not happening tonight.

A

Do we want to try to pick a date in january? Is this what we did? The google.

AA

Survey for updates there were two workshop possibilities. One was something I'm not going.

A

To talk about tonight, which is the other zoning amendments and the other things we need to work on.

A

um And then there was the idea for this: they could be the same night. Okay, did we get.

AA

Enough input from the google right, I think, beverly, has the results of the poll. Thank you saves us a.

K

Bit of time talking about it good evening, I did provide two dates. We did not identify a lot of.

K

Dates in january, the city clerk has not released. She has now, but at the time she had not released.

K

The calendar for january, so we just went with the second thursday, so the two dates that were the.

K

Most popular were the 22nd, but that is obviously next week, bumping upright against christmas and.

K

The 26th there is this um uh work session that I anticipated that the planning board would.

K

Would want to have they've expressed a um the interest in having work sessions when amendments.

K

Are before them before, and then I believe that that the planning board also had requested a.

K

Work session of their own to discuss regulatory amendments, so there are two work sessions that.

K

Are on the table, I had two dates, but we can mine for additional dates. If you want to assign one of.

K

Those dates, and then we can see if we can come up with some other january dates. We had a tough time.

A

Well, we have options, then, where we have now, we've got more possible dates. In january, we.

A

Want to have another google poll to see the I don't think the options next week, I'm not.

A

Seeing it no, so the option is either we pick january 26 or we there's plenty of time. There's.

A

Plenty of time for notice, so it can be january. 26Th is good, good, good, good! It's it's january!.

A

26 for workshop everybody good with that yep, so the topic of the workshop will be adus and.

K

Then you'd, like a second doodle poll, to be sent out with the medicinal january dates, is.

K

That correct, I think, we're going to need more. I think we won't get much more than adus in that.

A

Workshop night, unless we have a night like tonight- and I don't think we want to do that.

AF

So we will pull for a second date and we will reserve the room. I'm sorry.

K

January 26th, the second thursday of the month for an adu work session, we'll have.

K

um Our consultant attend that and then we will pull for a second date in january. For the other.

K

Work sessions. Yes great. Thank you thanks. Beverly. Thank you for hanging on too beverly. That's yes,.

A

I think that is it correct, meaning is adjourned. Second, I'm not even asking for a moment.