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Regular City Council Meeting 1-8-2020
A
Five
inches
of
rain,
and
so
they
have
these
high-volume,
actual
flow
pumps.
These
are
also
stolen
tomorrow,
so
I
think
that
down
especially
around
the
Barry
Street
area,
if
we
can
actually
make
something
like
this
approach
a
program,
it
would
really
alleviate
a
lot
of
problems
because
anyone
who's
building
houses
now
in
this
area,
they're
putting
their
neighbors
in
the
water
to
stay
there.
So
I
think
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
I
think
would
be
good
if
we
consider
dads
or
1%.
A
A
That
is
one
that
feels
problematic,
because
housings
supposed
to
actually
go
right
there
and
so
to
build
pickleball
courts
there
I
think
would
be.
It
would
pretty
much
destroy
the
hope
of
us
getting
housing
in
that
adjacent
area.
That's
what
it's
inflated
for
there,
but
also
something
we
may
want
to
consider
if
we're
looking
at.
C
D
A
D
B
A
I
mean
just
because
the
last
time
was
came
around.
We
didn't
put
anything
on
at
least
when
it
claims
to
the
CRA
area
that
actually
dealt
directly
with
residents,
life
and
I.
Think
this
is
one
I
mean
just
it's
it's
it's
just
as
a
particular
impact
and,
like
literally
every
house,
that's
built,
has
a
negative
impact
on
the
neighbors,
not
due
to
any
effect
of
the
Builder,
but
the
fact
that
just
the
way
how
low
the
city
is-
and
this
is
something
we
can
easily
alleviate
if
we
do
things
like
installing
pumps.
E
B
B
C
B
F
F
F
Think
I
have
some
good
news
to
report.
I've
been
working
with
FDOT,
since
we
had
the
conversation
about
the
wayfinding
signs
a
month
or
so
ago,
and
we're
this
close.
This
close
to
getting
the
approval
to
reface
our
current
signs
and
not
having
to
purchase
new
signs
for
the
wayfinding
signs,
so
I'm,
very
optimistic
I'm
gonna
remain
cautiously
optimistic
because
it
still
has
to
be
lies.
F
Mitchell
is
working
closely
with
the
folks
at
FDOT,
we're
at
the
point
where
we're
going
to
have
to
provide
them
some
actual
schematics
of
what
each
sign
is
going
to
look
like,
so
that
has
to
go
through
Weiler
engineering,
but
we
are
we're
moving
along
and
it's
going
to
save
us
almost
seventy
thousand
dollars
if
we
can
get
it
approved
so
I'm
very
happy
that
we
took
the
time
to
let
that
process
go
through,
because
it
will
seriously
make
a
difference
in
our
budget.
Well,.
B
I
think
that
your
relationship
and
Mitchell's
relationship
with
FDOT
through
the
MPO
is
really
instrumental
in
helping
us
get
there
and
that's
the
value
of
our
City
Council
members
participating
in
all
these
boards
and
committees
that
we
do
to
help
us
get
things
done.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that,
and.
C
C
B
B
H
B
J
B
F
B
F
B
Been
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
z0
4-1
9,
all
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
So
much
you're
welcome
and
now
we'll
move
into
the
consent
agenda.
We
will
take
citizens
comments
on
consent,
agenda
items
and
there
is
one
item
that
has
been
pulled
and
that
is
III.
It
has
been
pulled.
The
Lea
County
Attorney's
would
like
to
modify
the
agreement
before
they'll
bring
it
back
to
us.
So
we
have
legal
department
invoices.
We
have
a
finance
agreement
to
piggyback
with
Collier
County
Public
Schools.
B
E
Just
to
give
everybody's
attention
item
related
to
item
d1,
which
is
the
ad
a
transition
plan.
If
you
have
noticed-
or
maybe
you
haven't
noticed,
but
hopefully
you
will
notice
just
if
you
go
around
City
Hall
now
you
will
see
new
signage.
The
signage
is
the
color
scheme
of
our
branding
and
it's
a
DA
signage.
E
We
are
now
becoming
on
our
all
of
our
buildings,
fully
compliant
with
all
signage,
and
it's
a
like,
for
instance,
right
out
here,
you'll
see
some
new
signage
now
signifying
the
various
restrooms,
the
janitor
closet,
exits
entrances
to
various
buildings.
The
signage
is
for
the
public
and
for
employees
we
could
have
employees
that
have
a
da
related
issues.
So
it's
just
not.
The
science
is
just
not
for
the
public,
and
this
is
occurring
now
in
all
of
our
public
buildings.
So
you
can
now
take
a
look
and
we
will
be
fully
compliant.
Thank.
F
Motion
for
approval,
and
once
again
I
would
like
to
call
out
chief
Davis
were
being
so
proactive
on
the
voter's
revolving
grant.
I
mean
this
is
just
incredible
and
I
think
this.
This
shows
how
very
involved
we
are
as
a
community
that
we
want
to
keep
our
community
looking
nice,
and
this.
This
will
help
us
continue
to
do
that
on
the
waterway.
So
thank
you
to
police
department
for
doing
that
and
I
make
a
motion
for
approval.
Second,
it's.
B
B
E
B
H
B
We
will
take
citizens
comments
on
regular
agenda
items,
which
includes
the
resurfacing
of
the
tennis
courts
at
Gilchrist
parks,
whale
regrading
and
drainage
program.
The
discussion
of
fair
share
development
impact
B's
the
budget
we
appropriation
and
appropriations
and
a
request
from
the
urban
design
for
a
paid
interim
position
and
new
business
from
the
National
League
of
Cities
utilities
source
waters
a
program,
any
comments
on
those.
Please
come
to
the
podium
and
you
have
three
minutes.
I
L
L
B
E
We've
been
asked
to
look
into
how
much
it
would
cost
to
resurface
two
tennis
courts
now,
because
we
have
delayed
phase
two
of
the
park
area,
we're
just
doing
the
Harborwalk,
so
phase
two
of
the
park
area
is
gonna,
be
a
while
and
it's
about
$19,000,
because
it's
more
than
just
resurfacing.
Do
you
want
to?
Yes.
M
Good
morning
for
the
record
Rick,
any
director
of
public
works,
so
we
we
obtained
a
budget
number
and
the
tennis
courts.
If
you
get
out
and
look
look
at
in
they're
in
pretty
rough
shape
and
staff
has
had
complaints
and
I
know,
council
members
have
had
complaints
about
the
condition
so
to
resurface
them.
They.
If
you
want
me
to
go
over
the
process,
real
quick,
they
put,
they
put
down
an
acrylic
well,
first
of
all,
they
they
they
fill
in
the
low
spots
and
they
seal
that.
M
So
they
try
to
level
the
courts
out
and
then
they
put
down
an
acrylic
which
is
a
resin
product,
and
then
they
put
two
coats
of
paint.
You
know
the
where
your
service
areas
that
you
play
in
the
outer
areas
and
stripe
it.
So
it's
it's
a
quite
extensive
project
process
to
do
that.
So,
when
you
get
done,
you
have
five
layers
at
least
of
a
product
over
the
over
the
courts
and
that's
how
we
got
our
budget
number,
but
but
they
are
in
pretty
bad
shape.
I'll
be
happy
to
answer.
Any
questions
is.
M
So
it'd
have
to
be
Brit
bid
out
that's
kind
of
a
specialty
to
go
on
YouTube
you
just
kind
of
see
how
they
do
it.
It's
a
it's
a
technique
and
an
art
and
I.
Don't
think
our
staff
could
do
that,
it's
more
than
a
paintbrush.
It's
you
know
it.
They
use
a
squeegee
and
they
go
back
and
forth
and
it's
it's
a
technique
to
do.
M
D
M
D
M
D
D
H
C
M
F
C
F
B
M
C
F
F
B
F
B
N
To
mark
gary
public
works,
we
were
asked
to
take
a
look
at
our
budget
and
stepping
back
a
few
years.
You'll
recall
that
we
got
off
to
a
very
slow
start
with
this
project
and
we
carried
over
almost
all
of
our
funds
from
the
first
year
into
the
second
year.
Each
year.
Thereafter,
we've
reduced
that
carryover
and
we're
down
to
repairing
over
two
hundred
and
twenty-seven
thousand
dollars.
This
year
and
a
few
months
ago,
we
were
before
the
council
and
we
agreed
that
our
$500,000
budget
be
reduced
to
three
hundred
thousand.
N
That
combined
with
the
two
hundred
twenty
seven
thousand,
gave
us
a
five
hundred
twenty
seven
thousand
dollar
project,
which
we
have
a
work
program
designed
to
spend
that
money
for
29
projects
from
completion
on
that
prod
process.
But
now
we're
we
were
asked
to
take
another
look
at
the
carryover
and
see
if
that
was
something
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
spend
this
year
or
if
we
were
again
again
going
to
carryover
funds.
D
C
O
B
You
have
a
projection
on
because
I
when
we
first
started
to
talk
about
this
a
number
of
years
ago,
you
made
a
presentation
to
council
and
you
gave
a
list
of
all
of
because
at
that
point
in
time
we
were
only
spending
about
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
on
swales,
and
so
we
had
a
severe
problem
and
we
were
getting
bashed
with
emails
all
the
time
and
you
presented
a
list
and
I
think
it
was
like
somewhere
between
2
million
and
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
worth
of
projects,
but
that's
not
continuously
evolving.
Yes,.
N
D
E
D
F
F
B
We
have
talked
about
this
many
times
and
spent
many
hours
discussing
and
even
had
a
professor
from
the
University
of
Florida
weigh
in
on
dr.
Trent,
home
and
and
thatch
is
the
issue
becomes
that
the
person
who
is
experiencing
the
water
issue
is
not
the
person
that's
causing
the
issue,
the
property,
that's
causing
the
issue,
the
property
that's
causing.
It
is
the
one
that
has
thatch
that's
causing
the
water
to
back
up
down
the
street,
and
so
now
we
have
to
start
to
have
some
kind
of
a
code,
compliance
program
on
thatch,
and
we.
F
Also
have
another
problem,
and
that
is
that
the
newer
homes
being
built
are
being
built
at
higher
elevations
and
I.
Had
a
house
on
my
street
a
brand
new
house
on
my
street
that
they
they
allowed
the
driveway
to
be
built.
Three
inches
higher.
The
culvert
was
three
inches
higher
than
it
should
have
been,
and
so
what
ended
up
happening
is
the
yard
next
door
to
it.
Everything
backed
up
into
their
yard
and
first
ten
feet
in
from
the
street,
completely
got
flooded
out
every
time
it
rained
and
it
killed
all
their
sod.
F
So
we
they
had
to
actually
come
in
tear
out
the
bottom
half
of
the
new
driveway
and
regrade
it
and
put
the
driveway
back
down,
and
you
know
that
those
those
situations
I
understand,
but
when
there's
situations
that
the
property
owners
can
be
personally
responsible
for
I
think
we
have
to
start
developing
an
education
program
for
that
part
of
it
as
well.
All
I'm
saying
is
that
I
don't
want
to
see
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
next
year's
budget.
F
There
is
a
rollover
or
the
actual
expense
I'd
like
for
us
to
start
cutting
that
number
down
we
have
as
Jonathan
and
Debbie
mentioned.
We
have
a
lot
of
other
projects.
We
could
be
spending
money
on
if
we're
gonna
have
to
spend
money
at
all,
so
we
should
be
looking
at
how
we
can
curb
that
number
a
little
bit
and
if
we
get
the
the
backlog
completed
and
brought
up
to
date,
that
may
help
us
a
little
bit.
It's
a
procession
well.
E
N
B
O
O
We
were
also
tasked
with
you
know,
reaching
out
to
the
community.
Now
that
we
had
some
numbers,
I
know
what
everyone
thought:
the
business
community
and
so
we've
we
met
with
the
business
community
who
had
suggested
possibly
phasing
it
in
similar
to
what
the
county
did
when
they
had
their
impact
fee
study
done
so
we're
here
to
get
direction
on.
We
had
provided
you
the
draft
impact.
O
O
We
have
two
different
comparisons
we
have.
This
is
just
our
city
fees
and
let
me
make
this
a
little
bit
bigger.
So
it's
easier
to
read
so
our
current
parks
and
transportation
impact
fees
that
we
currently
have
you'll
remember.
We
had
suspended
police
fire
and
governmental
impact
fees
back
in
2011,
so
those
were
the
Curt
single-family
at
2500
square
foot
and
commercial
general
office,
and
these
are
at
a
thousand
square
feet
just
so
you
could
see.
C
O
Though
and
then
then
having
parks,
mobility
and
Public
Safety,
what
would
that
do
for
those
same
commercial
problem,
single-family,
residential
and
the
commercial
properties?
So
you
could
see
there
what
it
does
between
current
proposed
rate,
current
rates
and
proposed
rates,
and
these
proposed
rates
are
at
the
full
amount
that
were
provided
by
the
consultant.
O
O
O
E
At
a
hundred
percent
of
the
rate
recommended,
you
have
Punta
Gorda
existing
Punta
Gorda
proposed
in
unincorporated
Charlotte
County.
The
reason
that
on
the
Punta
Gorda
proposed
is
slightly
above
unincorporated
Charlotte
County
at
this
time
is
that
the
people
in
Punta
Gorda
pay,
City
impact
fees
and
they
also
pay
a
portion,
a
portion
for
County
related
impacts.
E
E
O
E
F
I
guess
I
was
asking
that
question
because
well
we
all
I
think
we're
at
that
impact
fee
meeting
that
we're
the
building
board
and
the
Realtors
and
the
several
of
the
builders
were
there
and
I
would
like
to
see
us
consider
phasing
it
in
I.
Think
that's
the
county.
Did
it
the
right
way?
I
I
would
like
to
see
us
do
the
same
thing
so
that
it's
not
such
a
huge
impact
at
one
time,
I
think
the
numbers
are
substantial.
A
With
women
saying
that
there
were
three
points
that
I
think
we
came
to
a
conclusion
at
that
meeting
was
one
phasing
in
percentage
increase
to
having
a
mechanism
for
automatic
adjustments
and
three
making
sure
there's?
No,
absolutely
no
transportation
fees,
but
all
new
mobility
fees
and
those
are
things
I
think
we
came
to
the
conclusion
at
our
meeting
then,
and
she
want
to
make
sure
those
are
included
in
the
final
draft
ordinance.
The.
E
E
E
H
B
I
mean
you
know,
the
feedback
I
was
getting
from
people
in
the
community.
Is
we've
just
increased
our
military
and
we
are
asking
our
homeowners
existing
homeowners
to
pony
up
to
help
provide
services
in
the
community
and
the
feeling
among
a
lot
of
people.
Is
it's
a
drop
in
the
bucket?
If
you
know
when
you're
gonna
build
a
new
property,
whether
you're
paying
you
know
whatever
you
don't
even
know,
a
lot
of
people
don't
even
realize
what
the
impact
fee
is.
B
E
C
B
A
All
right
also,
we
also
don't
have
in
and
we're
in
a
situation
where
we
need
more,
where
we're
not
like
other
counties
that
have
a
lot
of
commercial.
We
are
like
right
above
zero
with
what
keeps
us
above
the
line,
and
so
us
any
further
deterrent
to
actually
restoring
the
commercial
levels
we
had
I.
Think
we're
just
shooting
ourselves.
I
think
that's!
The
last
thing
you
want
to
do
is
is
negatively
impact
commercial
with
impact,
because
that's
what
keeps
to
safe?
A
O
Has
to
be
across
the
board
and
I
did
want
to
point
out
one
thing
about
when
you're
looking
at
single
family
to
commercial
on
the
commercial
side
parks
impact
fees
are
not
charged
on
commercial
properties.
So
you
know
when
some
of
the
fees
that
are
going
up
our
parks,
that's
causing
some
of
the
drivers,
have
the
increase
on
the
single-family,
but
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
So
it's
not
quite
an
apples-to-apples,
because
commercial
does
not
have
a
use
for
park,
doesn't
cause
park
growth.
It's.
E
F
A
A
H
F
E
C
C
A
Just
can't
forget
that
we
are
becoming
increasingly
less
attractive
as
the
commercial
being
you
and
you
have
across
the
bridge.
Everything
happening
in
the
demographics
around
I
just
think
that
we
have
to
understand
that
we
don't
control
this
game
anymore.
Until
we
get
our
critical
mass
back
in
the
city
we
kind
of
are
not
in
that
position
of
power
right
now,
we
have
to
think
about
being
attractive,
I,
don't.
A
Keeping
money
on
this
side
of
the
bridge,
that's
what
I'm
saying
is
that,
if
anything,
the
impact
is
only
positive,
because
if
we
were
in
a
situation
where
we
had
a
lot
of
commercial,
I'm
definitely
understand
that,
but
we're
at
a
point
where
we're
actually
underway.
We
have
a
third
what
we
had
before
Charlie
and.
I
A
Lost
220
businesses
we
used
to
have
to
grocery
stores
downtown
people
used
to
be
able
to
our
local
residents
patronize
our
local
people
on
a
daily
basis.
Now
they
go
other
places.
This
is
a
tangible
reality.
We
actually
had
considerably
more
business
during
a
so-called
bad
period
before
Charlie
and
just
restoring
it
to
Charlie
level
commerce
in
our
city.
I.
Think!
That's!
That's!
That's
good.
For
me.
B
A
B
E
F
Other
thing
I'd
like
to
just
say
you
know:
jaha
mentioned
you
know
over
ten
years
by
the
time
ten
years
is
up
the.
In
fact
these
are
gonna
have
to
increase
again
anyway.
So
I
think
that's
way
too
long
of
a
period
of
time.
I
think
if
we
just
phase
it
in
over
three
years,
we'll
be
where
we
want
to
be,
and
we
can
continue
growing
the
city
the
way
it
needs
to
be
grown
and
I
agree
with
you
guys,
I,
don't
think
that
impact
fees
are
gonna,
make
or
break
a
business.
A
The
business
has
expressed
that
it
XE
does,
but
even
five
years
is
better
than
three
years.
It's
just
that
what
I'm
saying
is
we're
weak
again.
We
can't
forget
the
reality
that
our
surrounding
areas
are
really
really
growing
and
that
we
have
to
make
ourself
attractive.
I
five-year
phase-in,
I
think,
would
be
something
that
would
be
a
middle
place.
D
A
D
D
B
Our
purposes
of
this
discussion
today
we're
not
voting
and
approving
on
anything.
What
I'm
hearing
is
a
support
for
Lynne's
proposal
of
starting
off
at
50%,
increasing
by
25%
over
two
additional
years.
So
that's
the
what
I'm
hearing
is
support
for
that.
As
far
as
then,
advertising
for
jordans
will
have
additional
opportunity
to
discuss
this
and.
I
C
O
So,
every
year
we
bring
to
you
a
reappropriation
list
as
well
as
maybe
some
appropriations
that
we
have
identified
through
the
very
first
part
of
the
year,
usually
coming
from
donations
or
other
things
that
have
just
come
up,
so
we
do
have
a
list
for
all
our
funds.
This
excludes
the
construction
funds,
because
the
construction
funds
are
all
project
lengths,
so
they
automatically
carryover
by
project.
O
We
have
certain
donations
that
are
for
specific
purposes,
so
we
keep
track
of
those
every
year,
so
they
automatically
will
transfer
over
or
carry
over
for
those
purposes.
A
lot
is
for
training.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
newer
staff
and
succession
planning
for
people
that
might
be
retiring
in
the
coming
year,
so
there's
been
a
general
need
for
any
leftover
funds
that
they
haven't
spent
being
able
to
carry
those
over
to
continue
to
use
those
funds.
O
O
Canal
maintenance
fund,
yes,
I'm,
sorry,
the
CRA
fund,
our
specific
product,
I
shouldn't,
say
our
specific
projects,
but
we've
had
a
policy
for
the
Lashley
Park
in
the
Harold
core
Center
maintenance
that
we
budget
a
certain
amount
every
year
and
we
carry
over
whatever's
not
spent
because
at
some
point
we
usually
end
up
having
a
large
expenditure
for
maintenance.
So,
rather
than
having
one
mom,
you
know
having
these
spikes
and
maintenance
costs.
We
try
and
budget
a
little
bit
and
carry
it
over.
You
have
the
wayfinding
again
that
project
hasn't
been
completed
gas
tax.
O
O
O
Utilities
they
had
some
repair
needs
that
we're
not
completed
at
the
end
of
the
year.
Sanitation
purchasing
of
carts
and
the
routing
work
order
program
is
still
trying
to
move
forward
on.
That,
marina
is
similar
to
like
what
I
mentioned
for
the
CRA.
The
dredging
needs
again.
When
we
end
up
having
a
dredging
project,
it
can
be
very
costly,
so
we
budget
a
certain
amount
per
year
and
carry
those
forward.
O
They
had
not
completed
their
boat
motor
purchase
or
their
work
boat
replacements
gone.
They
had
been
delayed,
so
they're
working
on
that
right
now,
IT
fund,
these
are
the
reappropriation.
So
these
are
for
particular
projects
that
they
needed
to
carry
forward.
They
also
have
a
section
of
their
appropriations
for
new
items
using
funds
left
over
from
fiscal
year.
Nineteen,
so
here's
the
appropriation
list
again.
These
are
in
the
general
fund.
Most
of
it
was
donations
for,
or
contributions
from
the
for
the
police
department
and
then
for
fire.
O
F
Three
on
the
first
page,
under
parks
and
grounds
we
have
$32,000
for
trees
that
may
be
needed
at
Veterans,
Gilchrist
and
or
ponce
park
in
phase
one
of
Gilchrist
Park
renovations.
We
included
the
cost
of
additional
trees
and
in
Phase,
two
we'll
have
more
of
the
same
I
question
why
this
has
to
be
duplicated
in
this
particular
line
item,
because
those
will
automatically
be
included
as
part
of
future
renovations
in
the
park
renovations.
We
do
so.
O
These
were
remaining
funds
that
had
been
set
aside
for
replacement
of
trees
from
Hurricane
ARMA,
and
these
remaining
funds
we
they
had
completed
all
those
replacements.
This
is
the
remaining
funds
and
it
was
indicated
to
us
that
there's
always
a
need
in
certain
parks
or
certain
areas.
They
get
requests
that
aren't
included
in
the
budget,
so
they
could
either.
We
could
either
not
include
this
item
as
carryover
and
then
just
come
back
for
reappropriation.
If
we
have
requests
that
go
over
their
current
budget.
E
See
it
talks
about,
veterans,
go
corresponds,
but
it
could
be
other
parts
of
the
city
as
well.
We
can
certainly
not
carryover
this
item
and
come
to
you
individually.
If
there
are
requests
in
the
city
of
an
area
that
we
would
like
to
put
more
trees
in
or
if
you
get
any
requests
for
more
trees,
you
may
come
periodically
it's
a
it's
a
matter
of.
Do
we
want
to
set
it
aside?
I
mean
it's
it.
It
doesn't
get
spent
on.
Anything
else
was.
E
F
H
O
F
E
H
E
O
F
D
E
F
M
For
the
record
Rick
Heaney
Director
of
Public
Works
there's
two
projects
there
together.
The
widening
and
there's
also
are
talks
about
the
spoil
site
we've
had
throughout
the
years.
We've
had
several
comments.
Complaints,
if
you
will
or
comments
right
now,
our
permit
allows
our
channel
only
to
be
so
wide
and
if
you
have
a
large
boat
large
sail
boat,
catamaran,
whatever
it
may
be,
and
you're
trying
to
get
two
boats
through
there,
it's
it's
challenging.
Sometimes
it
can
be
if
you
have
an
extremely
large
boat.
M
If
you
don't
stay
right
in
the
channel,
so
we
dredge
for
our
permit
and
if
you
stay
in
the
channel
you
shouldn't
hit
bottom,
it
shouldn't
be
an
issue,
but
through
the
pentagirls
Canal
Advisory
Committee,
there
have
been
comments
and
then
also
phone
calls
to
our
office.
Do
they
like
to
see
the
the
channel
itself
widened
so
where
two
boats
go
through,
there's
a
wider
channel
at
the
bottom.
When
you'd
read
you
just
can't
dredge
straight
down
and
make
a
box,
you
have
a
wide
bottom
and
then
you
have
to
slope
it.
M
So
that's
that's
the
thought
behind
that
we're
trying
to
get
a
consultant
to
everything
everybody
so
busy
right,
we're
having
a
hard
time
getting
a
consultant
who
will
work
with
us
on
on
that
project.
We
were
looking
at
tying
that
project
also
into
the
spoil
site.
It
was
part
of
the
seawall
program
or
running
out
of
vacant.
M
Lots
we're
looking
at
the
spoil
site,
maybe
making
a
channel
into
there
so
they're,
together,
they're,
close
and
proximity,
so
we're
trying
to
work
together
with
a
consultant
to
maybe
combine
all
that
those
two
projects,
but
we've
been
unsuccessful
right
now,
getting
a
consultant
to
help
us.
We've
we've
had
some
that
have
talked
to
us,
but
the
price
is
just
so
high,
so
we've
been
working
on
the
scope
trying
to
narrow
it
down,
so
we
can
afford
it.
F
Under
the
sanitation
fund
uses
we're
showing
21,000
for
purchase
of
larger
carts
and
I
asked
Howard
about
this
when
I
met
with
him
earlier
in
the
week,
but
for
the
benefit
of
everyone
here
when,
when
we
put
this
program
in
place
with
the
new
carts,
my
understanding
was
that
if
you
got
a
small
cart
and
you
chose
to
get
a
larger
cart
later
on,
you
would
have
to
pay
for
that
and
I
guess.
Are
we
not
doing
that
any
longer?
No.
E
No,
this
is
the
part
of
the
original
program
where,
if
they
didn't
respond
to
the
survey,
we
gave
him
a
small
cart,
but
then,
when
they
finally
got
the
small
card,
they
said
no.
No,
no,
no,
that's
not
good
enough
for
us,
so
they
went
more
towards
like
a
part,
but
mostly
a
48
gallon.
So
that
is
primarily
for
that.
Yes,.
O
And
and
I
can
just
say,
this
is
really
also
additionally,
growth.
New
houses
are
asking
for
the
larger
sizes
as
well.
We.
M
The
record
Ricky
nee
Director
of
Public
Works,
to
give
you
an
example
of
the
cost
yeah,
we
have
a
lot
of
32
a
lot,
so
we
shouldn't
have
to
order
those
the
48
96.
We
just
ordered
200
of
each
48
96.
That
was
$20,000.
So
with
growth,
that's
going
on
right
now
we
ordered
the
200
of
each
we
have
about.
We
only
have
about
40
houses,
to
change
out
right
now,
37
and
we'll
be
caught
up
with
the
change
outs
that
we
know
now
and
then
we'll
have
the
other
in
surplus.
C
E
C
F
B
There
was
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
budget
reappropriation
and
appropriations,
so
the
exception
of
the
$32,000
for
the
trees
that
will
go
into
the
reserve
balance.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Thank
you.
Okay
next
is
a
request
by
urban
design.
Intern.
P
Good
morning
for
the
record,
Joan
LeBeau
urban
design
manager
and
due
to
an
unjust
for
seeing
extended
absence
of
a
member
of
our
staff,
we
are
seeking
a
paid
intern
position
to
assist
us
with
some
of
the
land,
use,
reviews,
comprehensive
plan,
amendments
and
various
other
tasks
that
that
person
was
doing.
The
intern
will
assist
on
all
the
research
on
some
of
the
research
writing
and
data
collection
that
will
be
a
necessary
for
the
upcoming
projects,
such
as
the
land
development
rewrites.
Some
comp
plan
amendments,
as
well
as
the
Parks
and
Rec
master
plan.
P
P
Q
For
the
record
Mitchell
Austin
urban
design,
the
Florida
Gulf
Coast
University,
has
public
policy.
They
have
masters
of
Public
Administration
program,
I've
reached
out
to
that
program
director
and
informed
him
that
this
position
may
be
coming
open.
If
and
working
with
him
on
sort
of
a
job
description
and
seeing
if
his
students
might
be
interested,
so
he
seems
to
think
that
that
this
would
be
a
good
fit
potentially
for
some
of
those
students.
Obviously
this
will
be.
If
council
approves
the
position,
this
will
be
advertised
publicly
and
anybody
who's
qualified
could
apply.
F
Is
this
someone
that
could
be
groomed
to
be
a
full-time
position
if
we
find
it
necessary
I
believe
so?
Yes,
I'd
make
a
motion
for
approval.
Second,
there's.
B
B
S
Good
morning,
everyone
Melissa
record
communications
manager
exactly
what
we
have
announced,
as
the
title
is
what
we
have
for
you.
It
is
a
program
that
Howard
and
I
first
learned
about
about
two
and
a
half
weeks
ago,
or
so,
and
I'm
just
gonna
go
through
the
basics
of
the
program.
It's
this
is
for
discussion
only,
and
we
also
have
the
representative
from
the
program
here
that
I'll
introduce
at
the
end.
S
So
what
this
is?
It's
an
educational
program
that
helps
residents
understand
the
portion
of
utility
lines
that
are
their
responsibility.
So
that's
the
area
of
lines
that
are
not
in
there
right
away
the
things
that
happen
from
the
connection
to
the
meter
out
to
our
right-of-way,
it's
free
for
the
city
to
participate
voluntary
for
residents
and
it's
a
warranty
product.
It's
not
an
insurance
program.
It's
a
it's!
A
warranty
product,
I'll
see
if
this
video
will
play.
H
S
The
program
works
with
water
line,
sewer
lines
and
interior
plumbing
some
of
the
benefits,
convenience
peace
of
mind
and
trust
and
financial
protection
bottom
line.
How
much
does
it
cost
to
the
homeowner
575
a
month
for
the
water
lines?
Sewer
line
program
is
775
a
month
and
in
homecoming
$9.99
per
month
and
lisa
is
with
us
here
today.
He's
the
regional
area
director
for
the
National
League
of
Cities
service
line
program
and
Leah
I'd
like
to
invite
you
up
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
council
may
have
on
this
project.
So.
E
As
as
Lea
is
coming
up
to
the
podium
in
a
sense,
you
have
a
water
leak
and
the
water
leak
is
on
your
property,
not
the
city's
responsibility.
It's
on
your
side
of
the
water
meter
and
you
now
call
a
plumber
plumber
comes
and
you
get
a
bill
and
it's
a
plumbers.
It's
a
significant
bill.
You
may
also
have
a
significant
amount
of
water
that
has
leaked
in
this
program.
If
you
sign
up
this
is
all
voluntary,
all
voluntary.
If
you
sign
up
through
the
League
of
Cities
contract,
they
will
hire
a
plumber.
E
The
plumber
will
come
fix
it
and
that's
it.
You
don't
get
a
bill
because
you're
covered
by
paying
that
monthly
fee
same
with
sewer
same
with
interior
plumbing.
If
you
decide
to
sign
up
for
that
now,
part
of
the
program
also
talked
about
a
rebate
to
the
city
for
a
portion
of
the
monthly
fees
we
can
choose
to
do
that
or
not
some
cities
have
chosen
to
do
that,
and
then
they
offer
to
pay
for
some
of
the
water
bills
that
may
occur
through
a
significant
leak
with
those
dollars.
E
T
Let
me
explain
to
you
the
reason
why
and
I'm
Lee
Zell
I'm
the
Regional
Director
for
the
National
League
of
Cities
service
line
program.
So
the
actual
background
on
this
is
because
cities
across
the
nation
understand
that
in
2013
a
report
came
out
from
the
American
Society
of
Civil
Engineers.
That
said,
our
nation,
our
national
water
and
sewer
infrastructure
was
rated
a
d-plus,
so
as
cities
across
the
nation
are
doing
their
part
to
improve
your
water
and
sewer
infrastructure
within
the
right-of-way.
T
The
portion
that
the
cities
take
care
of
what
was
happening
is,
as
you
improved
yours
and
made
it
like
new
much
of
the
infrastructure
that
transitions
into
people's
front
yard
was
failing,
because
it
was
the
weaker
of
the
weaker
link
in
the
in
the
system
now
and
as
it
does,
and
it
continues
what
was
happening
as
residents
nationally
is
really
common.
A
city
of
approximately
this
size.
You
might
see
a
hundred
calls
a
month
come
in
saying.
T
There's
water
I,
don't
know
where
it's
coming
from,
but
the
city's
respond
pretty
much
100
times
out
of
100
calls
and
93
out
of
those
hundred
times
that
your
staff
shows
up
on
the
curb
and
the
residents
saying
is
over
there.
Your
staff
determines
quickly,
we
found
the
problem,
but
unfortunately
miss
Davis.
T
So
the
conversations
that
the
National
League
of
Cities
was
drawn
into
this
came
from
the
fact
that
oftentimes
council
members,
mayor
staff
for
sure
would
get
calls
from
residents
and
they're
like
mayor
I
need
your
help
the
today
they
let
me
know
that
I
have
this
problem
and
I
just
need
your
help
to
make
an
exception.
Isn't
there
some
way
that
you
can
help
me?
Let
them
take
care
of
this
and
all
the
elected
officials
across
the
nation
when
they
hear
these
these
comments
in
these
face-to-face
moments
with
residents
or
phone
calls.
T
They
realize
there's
not
a
way
to
take
public
tax
dollars
and
use
them
to
resolve
these
issues
on
private
property.
So
they
turn
to
the
National
League
of
Cities
and
said
help
us
get
ahead
of
this
issue.
We
know
it's
not
going
to
go
away,
so
how
can
you
help
us,
and
so
this
program
is
about?
First
of
all,
we
communicate
through
a
letter
and
only
a
letter
that
goes
out
to
all
of
your
residents,
and
it
lets
them
know
three
times
a
year
about
this
issue
in
a
through
graphics
pictures.
T
It
helps
them,
they
can
read
about
it,
but
they
can
also
see
a
picture
of
here's.
What
the
city
ends.
Here's,
where
your
proof,
you're
part
of
the
system,
begins,
and
so
by
nothing
more
than
them
reading
it
we're
getting
them
prepared
to
understand,
there's
a
portion
of
this
so
that
they
understand
where
they
take
it.
They
take
over
as
responsibilities.
This
is
important
because
our
goal
for
you
as
a
city
is
we're
trying
to
help.
T
If
I
have
a
problem
and
I
call,
the
city
and
I
expect
something
to
happen,
and
the
city
does
find
that
it's
beyond
this
point,
I
am
understanding
that
that's
going
to
be
my
responsibility,
and
the
reason
is,
is
these
are
expensive
repairs?
There
are
two
to
ten
thousand
dollar
repairs,
so
it
is
something
we
want
to
help
them
be
prepared
for.
What's
what's
great
about
the
program,
is
it
is
completely
voluntary,
so
the
information
we're
taking
care
of
then
we
leave
it
in
their
hands.
T
T
So
when
they
use
the
program,
it's
not
a
contract,
it
is
a
month-by-month
program,
so
they
literally
can
use
it
thirty
days,
seven
months
or
seven
years,
but
it's
all
up
to
that
individual,
the
neighbors
can
say
it's
not
for
me,
but
the
neighbor
that
says
I
have
no
other
place
to
turn
to
this
is
I.
Need
this
I.
Don't
have
that
kind
of
reserved
money
to
solve
this
problem?
So
that's
a
short
version.
Italy
uses
local
contractors.
We
want
very
fast
response
and
we
want
to
keep
all
the
focus
here
in
the
city.
T
We
have
city
inspections,
that
pull
city
permits
and
all
work
is
done
to
your
city's
local
code
so
that,
as
we
Umrah
place
lines
they're
updated
to
current
code
so
that
you're
not
dealing
with
ini
issues,
you're
not
dealing
with
missing
parts
that
are
now
part
of
the
current
code.
So
any
questions,
questions.
E
T
T
Absolutely
in
your
state
to
go
a
little
further
and
I
know
this
is
a
little
detail-oriented,
but
you
live
in
a
beautiful
state,
but
it's
also
the
lightning
capital
of
our
our
country.
So
what
you
may
not
be
aware
of
is
in
us
in
an
area
like
this,
when
you
have
the
highest
lightning
strikes
lightning
when
it
hits
an
area.
You
go
straight
to
your
copper
pipes
and
when
the
copper
pipe
says
you're
pointing
out
are
pitted
by
the
corrosion
when
the
lightning
hits
all
those
little
corroded
points
instantaneously
release.
T
So
you
don't
have
a
small
leak.
You
have
a
sponge,
it's
like
thousands
of
leaks
that
are
all
part
of
a
copper
pipe
system.
This
program
has
no
pre-existing
condition
exclusions.
Very
specifically,
that
means
in
st.
Augustine
and
Savannah
Georgia
of
the
whole
East
Coast.
We
cover
Woodend
sewer
lines
that
are
still
there
and
work.
We
cover
that.
We
cover
blue
pali
terracotta
cast
iron
galvanized.
All
of
those
we
specifically
by
the
way.
Also
this
program
removes
and
eliminates
lead
water
lines
anywhere
that
we
find
them.
T
T
Nlcs,
the
the
Florida
Liga
cities,
like
all
state
leagues
93
years
ago,
asked
there
to
be
an
organization
called
the
National
League
of
Cities,
the
naturally
a
city
'national
wise,
we're
here
to
serve
each
of
the
state
leagues.
So
the
National
League
of
Cities
knows
a
lot
of
things,
but
the
water
side
of
this,
the
National
League
of
Cities,
asked
the
company
called
utility
service
partners
twelve
years
ago
to
administer
this
program
after
they
did
a
background
and
thorough
vetting
after
the
first
five
years.
T
They
asked
us
to
continue,
and
we
are
just
now
signed
a
new
third
five-year
agreement
to
continue
some
of
the
examples,
and
this
is
not
on
paper,
but
it's
good
to
know
examples
of
how
this
works
so
that
the
NL
C
is
always
over
and
the
city
is
always
in
control
of
what
we
do.
Even
though
we
we
take
care
of
everything.
Is
the
program
has
in
its
process.
We
we
do
the
billing
and
I'm
just
taking
this
a
side.
Note,
but
what's
interesting
is
the
national.
T
Your
city
said
you
need
to
be
able
to
manage
for
the
low
least
of
the
communities
that
have
the
fixed
income
or
lower
income
residents.
We
need
to
watch
out
for
what
they
need
and
that's
why,
when
this
program
is
a
month
month
per
month
to
month,
program
example
is
their
oversight,
guidance
us
to
say:
if
a
resident
uses
the
program
and
to
three
months
in
they
get
sick,
and
they
say
you
know,
I
had
to
make
a
choice
as
much
months.
I
can't
pay
for
this,
so
they
don't
pay.
No
one
calls
them.
T
They
go
to
the
doctor.
They
get
their
their
doctors
care,
they
pay
their
five
dollars
to
the
doctor.
The
next
month,
they're
still
sick.
They
got
to
use
the
money
to
get
medicine,
so
they
don't
pay
a
second
month.
It's
sort
of
Murphy's
Law
that
that's
ten
days
later
is
when
this
problem
happens.
When
they
call
the
program,
they
don't
get
an
answer
this
as
miss
Williams.
You
didn't
pay.
Sorry,
they
get
an
answer.
This
says
miss
Williams.
We
noticed
the
last
two
months
that
you
didn't
make
a
payment
on
this.
T
T
The
last
point
they
add
that,
but
the
issue
is,
is
that
naturally
a
city's
thinks
and
pays
attention
because
of
feedback
from
over
800
cities
across
the
nation
on
how
this
program
exists
and
those
cities
range
from
the
size
of
Los
Angeles
to
Fort
Lauderdale,
to
Deerfield
Beach,
to
Pompano
Beach,
to
Longfield
our
Longwood
to
Winter
Haven.
So
it's
their
cities
all
across
the
nation
that
have
the
program.
So
that's
how
it
works.
They.
T
They
voluntarily
say
I
would
like
to
participate.
We
do
the
billing.
We
do
that,
also
because
cities
only
have
about
25
days
of
grace
in
your
water
departments
before
they
have
to
do
something.
So
we
take
on
the
billing
so
that
we
have
that
greater
flexibility
to
help
when
a
resident
makes
a
call
to
the
program
within
one
hour
maximum.
T
B
J
T
Of
all,
if
that's
totally
up
to
the
city,
we
would
just
reduce
the
rate.
So
that's
first
thing
the
the
reason
we
even
have
that
there
and
the
presentation,
video
wise,
doesn't
help
as
much
90,
I,
say
98%,
but
95
percent
of
the
cities
across
the
nation
use
that
for
water
bail
forgiveness,
if
you
don't
have
a
method
in
your
city
for
someone
to
walk
in
60
to
90
days
after
this
happens
and
say:
oh,
my
god,
I
have
a
eighty
or
a
hundred
thousand
gallon
water
bill.
Isn't
there's
something
that
the
city
can
do.
T
This
helps
pay
to
offset.
You
saying
tell
you
what
you
can
just
pay
the
last
twelve
months
average
and
we're
that's
up
to
you.
That's
not
I
was
telling
you
that,
but
that's
what
this
is
for.
But
if
you
wish
you
can
say
we'd
rather
not.
We
just
want
the
lower
rate
and
stay
there.
That's
completely
acceptable.
T
The
other
and
final
portion
of
possibly
of
your
question
is
the
National
League
of
Cities
serves
you
as
a
city,
so
this
program
is
available
to
you
as
a
partnership.
We
only
make
this
program
available.
With
your
permission
and
your
partnership,
if
you
choose
not
to,
we
will
communicate
not
at
all
to
any
resident
at
all.
We
don't.
We
don't
do
any
relationships
unless
we
work
with
the
city,
and
so
we
don't,
we
don't
offer
it
directly.
If
someone
calls
and
says
can
I
have
it.
J
T
No,
there
actually
is
American
water,
a
a
WR
and
a
WR
is
a
water
company
out
of
the
Northeast
and
so
I've
seldom
but
everyone's
well,
we
do
visit
in
cities
where
that
comes
up.
We
recently
did
a
another
RFP
in
Florida.
We've
had
many
and
again
this
particular
F.
He
was
for
the
city
of
Miramar
and
again
the
award
was
given
to
the
National
League
of
Cities
service
and
program.
So
that's
right
now!
That's
was
completely
up
for
piggyback.
If
you
wish
to
use
that.
B
T
H
T
All
right,
so
the
National
League
of
Cities
again
is
we're
here
to
serve
you
and
your
community,
but
every
good
deed
does
not
always
go
unpunished.
So
in
the
past
we
did
serve
multi-unit
situations
and
I
say
that
more
of
a
high-rise
kind
of
set
up,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
the
program
is
set
up
for
individual
properties
or
properties
that
have
their
own
individual
water
and
sewer
connections.
T
The
reason
that
comes
from
and
I'm
here
to
share
is
because
in
the
past
we
would
serve
a
building
that
had
eight
eight
people
in
the
building
and
one
person,
because
it's
voluntary
would
say
I
want
have
the
program,
they
would
have
a
problem,
they
would
call
us
we
would
go
to
take
care
of
it,
but
because
we
have
to
turn
the
water
off
like
any.
Would
while
we're
doing
it,
then
we
were
sued
by
the
people
that
didn't
get
served
and
didn't
sign
up.
T
So
we,
you
know,
we
said:
okay,
we
understand
so
we
stepped
out
of
that.
So
this
program
is
available
for
residents
or
businesses.
I
say
that
carefully,
like
a
realtor
or
lawyer,
or
doctors
that
occupy
a
residential
type
property
that
have
their
own
water
sewer
connections.
If
you're
in
a
multi-story
multi-unit,
then
we
have
to
back
away
from
that.
Specifically,
though,
on
condos
and
townhomes,
a
lot
of
them
have
what
I
call
they
have
their
own
private
connections
and
they
go
out
to
a
point
where
it
becomes
shared
all
right.
T
T
T
And
that's
why
we're
very
diverse
and
we
we
want
no
bubble.
We
want
no
bubbles
of
exceptions.
That's
part
of
why
the
broke
is
so
broad
in
what
it
does
and
why
any
competing
products
don't
compare,
because
we
have
no
exclusions.
So
we're
not
we're
not
there
to
say
oh
well,
you
have
you
have
a
old
terracotta
lung
or
you
have
blue
poly,
but
that
was
that
was
considered
to
be
defective.
It's
been
recalled,
we
still
cover
it
and
those
are
some
of
the
examples
of
why
the
naturally
good
Sidious
is
like.
T
C
F
Would
say
yes
and
I
would
say:
I
don't
want
to
see
the
city
getting
money
back
for
this
program.
I
would
like
to
see
it
extended
to
citizens
and
keep
the
city
totally
separate
of
it.
I
can
see
a
huge
huge
benefit
to
the
people
who
have
copper
plumbing
in
their
home.
Absolutely
huge
I
have
seven
or
eight
friends
I'm.
F
And
I
had
to
pay
for
all
that
friends
that
I
can
think
of
off
the
top
of
my
head,
who
had
their
pipes
burst
under
the
foundation,
and
it
was
over
ten
thousand
dollars
to
replace
those
and
I
mean
like
it
would
be
a
great
insurance
program
for
them
essentially,
I
mean
I,
know
you're,
not
calling
it
an
insurance
program,
but
but
for
120
dollars
a
year.
It's
a
no-brainer
I.
C
J
T
T
From
the
perspective,
let
me
explain
that
I
haven't
even
gone
there
when
we
communicate
every
single,
it's
just
a
letter,
but
when
we
communicate,
we
in
our
agreement
put
in
your
hands
the
absolute
authority,
not
just
today,
but
at
any
time
as
long
as
we
are
communicating
for
you
to
literally
say,
hey,
we'll,
send
an
email
to
your
city
manager
and
say
we're
going
to
send
the
next
communication
in
two
weeks
is
everything?
Okay
and
your
council
may
say
everything's
great
and
he
says,
go
ahead.
T
That
will
be
the
case
always
if
ever
for
any
reason.
There
is
any
question
such
as
this
kind
of
question
you
can
actually
say
hold.
We
have
questions
the
program
stops
indefinitely
so
that
you
have
complete
oversight
to
say
we
want
to
know
this
doing
exactly
what
we
expected
and
the
way
we
expected,
and
so
that's
why
we
want
to
have
that
kind
of
relationship
to
give
you
the
absolute
authority.
Yet
we'll
do
all
the
work,
but
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
have
that
with
any
organization.
T
That
would
do
anything
without
your
oversight,
then
the
reaction
would
be
a
resident
saying.
There's
a
question:
I
have
a
problem
and
the
city
would
be
saying
we
can't
do
anything.
We
have
no
relationship,
we're
asking
and
that's
how
they
want
this
program
to
be,
to
have
your
oversight
to
be
able
to
say,
stop
so.
J
T
There's
profit
yes,
but,
and
let
me
explain
the
names
because
that
is
all
of
you
probably
know
the
National
League
of
Cities,
most
likely,
no
one
in
the
audience,
who's
not
doing
business
or
part
of
city
knows
who
the
National
League
of
Cities
is
utility
service
partners
has
a
purpose
because
their
expertise
is
water
and
sewer,
utility
and
and
managing
this,
when
we
do
the
servicing
warranties
of
America
we're
trying
to
put
it
in
a
terminology
that
makes
sense
in
its
own
name.
So
a
resident
sees
that
and
says.
Ok.
T
J
Sure
so
the
National
League
of
Cities
and
the
city
by
partnering
adds
credibility
for
the
benefit
of
a
private
company.
So
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
liabilities
the
city
might
be
at
might
be
engaging
by
partnering,
indirectly
with
a
private
for-profit
company,
which
may
not
be
the
only
company.
That's
doing
this
and
I
just
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
that
all
of
that
is
going
to
be
on
it.
You
know
part
of
the
collaboration
of
the
City
Council.
One
is
presented
to
them
absolutely.
T
Another
great
point:
the
agreement
again
that
we
have
with
you
and
that
would
be
part
of
what
our
relationship
is:
indemnifies,
all
city
staff,
all
city,
council
members.
It
didn't
indemnifies
the
city
further
with
a
10
million
dollar
policy.
That
says
this:
is
we
defend
you
first,
so
there
is
we
protect
the
city
or
from
any
claim,
but
more
important
than
that
is.
There
are
eight
hundred
plus
cities
that
are
partnered
with
this
municipalities
across
the
nation.
T
We've
had
zero
and
that's
in
12
years
now
so
I
see
that
because
we
don't
let
things
get
out
of
hand
without
already
being
on
top
of
it
example
being
even
when
a
resident
says,
I
need
help.
If
they
call
us
back
and
they
say,
hey,
there's
something
just
not
right.
They
immediately.
Just
by
saying
anything
like
that,
we
have
teams
that
are
called
cat.
Customer
advocate
teams.
T
They
become
the
inside-the-beltway
team
that
all
of
a
sudden
represents
miss
Williams,
who
said
I,
don't
what
happened,
but
he
didn't
show
up
on
Tuesday
all
of
a
sudden.
The
cat
team
cuts
everything
and
says:
why
isn't
he
there?
Why
isn't
he
there
now?
Why
isn't
it
fixed
and
they
take
care
and
make
it
happen?
And
I
say
that?
Because
that's
why
between
December
27th,
2017
and
January,
2nd
2018,
when
there
was
a
normos
ice
area
issue
from
Kansas
all
the
way
to
the
Northeast?
T
This
program
has
72,000
claims
come
through
the
phone
lines,
just
in
that
little
window
and
all
of
them
were
taken
care
of
all
of
them
were
managed
and
down
here
in
this
area
that
relates
to
after
our
hurricane,
we're
able
that's.
We
have
four
call
centers
in
the
United
States
that
are
spread
out
because
we're
planning
for
the
worst
case
so
that
we're
prepared
on
your
worst
day.
T
J
B
T
Let
me
clarify
her.
The
National
League
of
Cities
is
this
is
their
programmers,
but
we
are
their
administrator,
so
we
communicate
so
on
it.
You
would
be
with
both
so
and
that's
why
it's
in
your
agreement,
they'd
even
says
this
is
the
National
League
of
Cities
program
administered
by
and
includes
service
long
warranty,
so
that
you
know
you
understand
all
the
fate
forward-facing
information.
K
J
E
C
B
B
D
G
R
G
C
C
N
D
C
B
F
B
E
J
And
to
perhaps
place
a
moratorium
of
some
sort
upon
the
enforcement
of
the
certain
provisions
of
our
sign
code.
That
may
not
be
consistent
with
current
state
of
the
law.
We
don't
have
a
staff,
the
authority
to
say
that
we're
not
going
to
enforce
the
sign
code
and
that's
why
it's
the
matter
that
has
to
come
before
the
City
Council.
J
This
may
be
longer
than
it
needs
to
be,
but
you
know
in
general,
generally
speaking
historically,
the
city
had
has
what's
called
police
powers
to
regulate
activities
within
its
jurisdiction
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
health,
safety
and
welfare.
It
wasn't
all
that
long
ago.
Historically,
that
aesthetics
wasn't
considered
to
be
part
of
the
the
police
power
authorities
at
the
city.
C
J
Well
in
2005,
our
federal
appellate
court
in
the
Eleventh
Circuit
reviewed
a
sign
ordinance
of
of
a
city
within
the
city
within
the
state
of
Florida,
which
is
very
similar
to
our
code
and
any
of
the
other
codes
around
the
state
and
determine
that.
If
you
have
to
read
the
sign
in
order
to
determine
which
category
it
fits
within
the
sign
code,
then
that
constitutes
a
prohibited
regulation
and
violation
of
the
First
Amendment.
Rights
of
freedom
of
speech
and
I
have
been
over
the
years
very
subtle.
J
In
my
recommendations
to
the
city,
as
it
relates
to
certain
portions
of
our
sign
code
and
and
amendments
to
our
sign
code
without
waving
a
flag
saying:
hey
we're
gonna
get
sued.
If
we
continue
to
do
this
in
2015,
the
US
Supreme
Court
came
down
with
a
decision
against
a
city
I
think
it
was
in
state
of
Arizona.
J
That
was
very
similar
to
the
decision
that
was
rendered
by
our
Eleventh
Circuit
ten
years
earlier,
which
again
placed
that
issue,
not
just
our
sign
code,
but
the
probably
the
vast
majority
of
sign
codes
around
the
country
that
have
categories
based
on
what
is
on
the
sign.
They
call
that
content
based
versus
content
neutral
sign
codes.
J
We
may
want
to
take
a
proactive
approach,
but
my
job
is
simply
to
advise
the
city
of
the
potential
liability
and
and
allow
the
city
to
make
a
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
that
liability
is
so
great
to
do
something
about
it
or
just
accept
the
fact
that
there
may
be
liability
because
bare
mind
as
long
as
somebody
has
the
amount
of
the
relatively
nominal
filing
fee.
Anybody
can
sue
the
city
for
anything
that
they
want.
J
It's
not
necessarily
a
meritorious
case
I'm
at
learning
the
city
to
the
fact
that
our
sign
code
could
result
in
a
meritorious
lawsuit
and
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
of
the
sign
code
and
how
we
can
modify
the
sign
code
in
a
way
that
will
not
be
as
expansive
in
its
scope,
as
our
current
sign
code
may
be,
but
we'll
explain
how
we
can
at
least
limit
to
some
extent
the
clutter
that
I
think
sign
codes
were
intended
to
try
to
address
for
aesthetic
reasons.
B
B
H
C
B
J
C
J
D
C
C
E
B
J
The
key,
if
you
were
to
outlaw
signs
altogether,
that
would
equally
be
bad
because
there's
a
limitation
with
respect
to
our
regulation,
even
with
respect
to
content,
neutral
regulations.
In
other
words,
for
example.
We
do
have-
and
it's
recognized,
that
we
have
the
right
to
regulate
the
size
of
signs
in
order
to
minimize
Carter.
J
Interpretation
of
the
First
Amendment
rights.
So
there's
there's
there's
some
guidance
based
on
looking
at
the
case
law
that
exists
today.
As
to
where
you
have
kind
of
a
safe
zone,
so
you
can't
prohibit,
you
can't
prohibit
all
signs
and
you
can't,
even
with
a
content-neutral
regulation,
restrict
to
too
much
what
somebody
can
do.
But
there
is
a
sweet
zone
where
you
can
achieve
the
objectives,
the
legitimate
objectives
we
have
with
respect
to
clutter
and
still
respect
the
First
Amendment
rights
of
expression.
J
F
J
Statute
regulating
code
enforcement
isn't
intended
to
shut
down
a
business.
It
is
intended
to
bring
them
into
compliance
and
they
are
in
compliance.
You
know
I
just
checked
as
of
yesterday
and
from
what
I
understand
since
they've
occupied
the
building
engaged
in
business
and
have
a
full
time
on-site
manager.
E
F
F
R
The
first
item
I,
have
is
the
firefighters
pension
board,
fifth
member
appointment
confirmation,
so
the
pension
boards
consists
of
two
member
trustees,
and
then
we
have
two
members
who
are
appointed
by
Council.
The
fifth
member
is
appointed
by
the
remainder
of
the
board,
the
other
four
members
they
have
reappointed.
Mr.
Justin
Garrow
and
counsels
confirmation
of
that
appointment
is
needed.
B
R
R
B
Policy
and
legislation,
the
Florida
League
of
Cities
legislative
days,
is
coming
up
next
month
and
I
wanted
to
find
out
who,
amongst
us,
I
know,
I'm
registered
to
go
and
you're
registered,
go
jaha,
okay,
so
that's
it
then
I
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
Gerry
Paul
to
let
him
know
that
who
all
was
coming
and
he
can
make
proper
appropriate
arrangements.
Okay,
I
will
do
that
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thanks.
B
You
Jehan
John,
for
coming
out
and
seeing
the
National
pickleball
Championship
out
at
the
pickle
Plex
that
was
in
Howard.
It
was
quite
a
an
event
and
we
had
a
great
time
and
a
lot
of
people
from
all
over
the
place
really
enjoying
our
community
and
they
had
a
smaller
tournament
last
weekend.
In
this
weekend
they
have
a
tournament
with
almost
500
people
registered.
It's
the
grand
opening
turn
for
the
pickle
Plex,
so
a
lot
of
people
and
it's
proving
to
be
a
really
popular
venue.
B
A
A
A
F
Over
the
weekend,
I
sent
an
email
to
Howard
unto
city
staff
to
Lisa
with
regard
to
a
plethora
of
open
house
signs
that
were
all
over
Punta
Gorda,
Isles
and
Bernstein's,
and
on
the
media
on
41
and
and
I
questioned
why
we
are
allowing
that
to
continue,
because
we
do
have
an
ordinance
about
real
estate,
open
house
signs
and
I
counted
17
signs
from
Magdalena
to
the
end
of
my
street.
At
the
Turtledove
triangle.
C
F
F
I
think
we
should
consider
and
we'll
have
to
talk
about
this
at
another
meeting,
but
we
should
consider
either
increasing
the
fines
or
just
taking
much
more
proactive
approach
about
it,
because
police
department
should
not
be
running
around
pulling
signs
out
of
the
ground
every
every
weekend
when
they're,
when
they're
all
over
the
right
away.
It's
just
not,
they
don't
have
time
to
be
doing
that
they
have
other
things
to
do
to
be
policing
and
code.
Compliance
is
only
there
Monday
through
Friday
right
now.
So
that's
going.
F
Know
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
I
talked
to
Lisa
before
the
council
meeting
this
morning.
I
just
think
we
need
to
do
something
about
this,
because
it's
become
a
huge
problem
again
and
it
happens
every
year
at
this
time
of
the
year
when
this
is
high
season
and
there's
a
lot
of
properties
for
sale
and.
B
K
K
It
will
depend
on
the
hours,
but
we
will
be
putting
together
a
schedule
for
probably
twice
a
month
right
now
again,
as
vice
mayor
Matthew
stated,
we
do
send
out
the
letters
every
year
to
the
board
of
realtor's
I
send
another
letter
out
of
it
at
your
request
again
and
the
response
I
got
back
the
lady
who's
in
charges.
Yes,
I
know
we
we
tell
them
all
the
time.
B
C
K
We
we
do
our
best
with
trying
to
educate
and
again
we
can't.
We
can't
cite
them
unless
we
see
it
and
and
have
first-hand
knowledge
of
it.
But
we
are
working
on
on
getting
that.
If
you
want
a
little
history,
we
allowed
back
in
2008
when
the
economy
was
in
a
downturn,
the
Realtors
came
to
City
Council
and
requested
the
use
of
off-premise
directional
signs.
So
City
Council,
we
amended
the
sign
ordinance
to
allow
the
off-premise
directional
signs
it
was.
K
It
was
to
sunset
in
two
years,
then
in
2010
they
said
no,
we
still
need
it,
so
the
sign
code
was
amended
again.
Another
sunset
in
two
years,
that
was
to
sunset,
November
2012.
Then
in
2013
it
was
amended
again
to
sunset,
automatically
July
3rd
2016.
At
that
time,
council
decided
not
to
allow
the
off-premise
directional
signs
and
that's
how
we've
been
going
since,
but
we
will
definitely
let.
C
J
B
F
Done
electronically
now
people
can
find
houses
that
are
open
houses
every
weekend.
It's
not
like
it's
rocket
science
I
mean
I'm,
sorry
to
sound
that
way.
I
support
the
Realty
community,
but
but
you
know
we
have.
We
have
an
ordinance
and
we
need
to
either
enforce
it
or
get
rid
of
it
and
I
would
hate
to
see
us
get
rid
of
it.
K
C
E
A
U
U
If
you
will
reference
an
article
in
this
morning's
Wall,
Street
Journal
about
flight,
from
especially
the
Northeast
and
the
high
tax
states
and
where
those
people
are
going,
and
we
know
where
they're
going
and
it's
here,
we
have
Vice
Mayor
referenced
in
her
newsletter
last
week
in
a
commentary
about
the
Key,
West
style
houses
down
the
street
and
what
they
are
going
for.
You
are
absolutely
right.
Mr.
Matthews,
it
is
a
drop
in
the
bucket.
There
is
not
going
to
be
a
difference.
I
think
the
number
is
well
over.
U
50%
of
homes
built
in
our
area
are
paid
for
by
cash,
and
we
have
I
think
we
I
know
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
it
now,
but
we
we're
probably
on
the
down
side
of
the
power
curve,
Florida's
boom
and
bust
economy.
But
it's
it's
time
to
raise
these
impact
fees
and
I
highly
suggest
that
you
do
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
V
I
think
that
the
council
is
making
a
big
mistake
by
by
jumping
these
impact
fees
in
increments
I
think
you,
you
really
need
to
get
this
in
place
and
get
this
in
place
fast.
I,
don't
remember
ever
seeing
a
road
being
built
at
50
percent,
so
I'm
not
sure
I
know
how
to
build
that
road
by
only
increasing
the
impact
fee
by
50
percent
above
what
it
is
right
now.
V
We
are
the
lowest
and,
if
you
add,
a
hundred
percent
to
our
impact
fee,
even
with
paying
Charlotte
counties
that
back
fee
we're
still
lower
than
anybody
in
our
surrounding
area.
So
you
know
Red
Robin
trader
Jack's.
They
all
deal
in
rooftops.
They
don't
deal
in
in
in
money.
They
deal
in
the
the
cost
of
the
land.
If
the
cost
of
the
land
is
too
much
they're
not
coming,
if
they
don't
have
the
rooftops,
they're
not
coming
so
I,
really
I,
really
and
truly
believe
you
you,
you
would
like
to
reconsider
what
you
do.