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Regular City Council Meeting 04-01-2020
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Don't
know
if
you
can
see
it,
but
the
room
is
empty,
almost
other
than
there
are
10
people
and
we
are
going
to
adhere
to
no
more
than
10
people
in
the
room
at
any
one.
Given
point
in
time:
we've
spaced
the
council
members
out
so
that
we
have
more
distance,
Howard
and
David
Levin
are
at
tables
in
front
of
us
and
when
we
have
our
CRA
meeting
this
morning,
our
CRA
members
will
be
participating
from
the
podiums.
So
we've
made
accommodations
to
this
and
trying
to
take
a
leadership
role
in
walking
the
talk.
G
Let
us
pray
Lord,
we
pray
for
strength
and
guidance
for
each
day
as
it
comes.
If
he's
uncertain
times,
we
ask
that
you
protect
those
who
are
serving
on
the
front
lines
of
the
disease,
helping
their
fellow
man
saving
lives
and
dealing
with
enormous
loss
every
day
unless
the
thousands
of
people
around
the
world
who
have
been
negatively
affected
or
lost
their
lives
due
to
the
pandemic,
known
as
kovat
19
keep
us
well,
so
we
can
continue
to
serve.
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G
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G
So
we
have
a
couple
of
avenues
for
public
comment
on
all
agenda
items.
I
will
be
reading
into
the
record
the
emails
that
we
have
received
ahead
of
time,
and
if
there
are
public
out
there
we
can
come
bring
them
in
one
by
one.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
any
out
there,
there
is
not
any
out
there.
Okay,
so
I
will
be
reading
the
emails
that
we've
received
on
agenda
items
into
the
record.
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The
consensus
of
council
seems
to
be
that
until
funding
at
the
scale
of
the
one
percent
sales
tax
is
available,
major
changes
to
the
Henry
Street
campus,
particularly
the
dog
park,
will
have
to
wait.
That
said,
members
of
council
have
acknowledged
that
immediate
short-term
improvements,
which
can
be
handled
at
a
reasonable
cost,
are
warranted
and
should
be
considered.
In
the
best
case
scenario,
voters
will
approve
the
sales
tax
extension
and
receipts
are,
as
predicted,
with
the
city
receiving
about
15
million
for
the
projects.
However,
availability
of
sales
tax
funds
is
a
huge
unknown.
G
Voters
may
not
approved
an
extension
of
the
sales
tax.
The
County
sales
tax
receipts
may
be
dramatically
impacted
by
the
current
health
and
economic
conditions,
even
when
those
conditions
improved
recovery
may
still
be
months
or
even
years
away.
This
uncertainty
suggests
a
cautious
approach
to
making
improvements
to
conditions
and
amenities
in
the
dog
park.
Some
will
recall
that
last
May
staff
was
in
the
process
of
drafting
plans
to
expand
the
small
dog
park.
Now,
almost
a
year
later,
we
can
contemplate
some
additional
weighting.
G
In
the
best-case
scenario,
the
Henry
Street
campus
would
be
slated
for
funding,
beginning
in
FY
20
to
18
months
away.
The
total
project
extends
to
FY
2024,
that's
at
least
18
months
of
no
significant
improvements
to
the
dog
park,
and
possibly
four
and
a
half
years
until
the
project
is
completed
in
the
next
18
months,
and
perhaps
for
some
time
after
that
warranted
low-cost,
short-term
improvements
could
be
considered
and
implemented.
G
Apart
from
the
input
received
recorded
and
reported
on
earlier
this
year,
there
is
no
announced
plan,
a
process
that
would
inform
decisions
about
improvements
to
be
made
either
in
the
short-term
or
for
the
full
project.
I
would
urge
council
to
consider
establishing
such
a
process
by
creating
an
ad
hoc
citizens
group
on
the
dog
park.
A
similar
approach
was
taken
by
Council
with
the
appointment
of
the
pickleball
committee
in
2019
for
immediate
needs.
The
committee
would
work
with
designated
staff
to
prioritize
the
kind
of
improvements
affordable
with
a
limited
budget.
G
The
committee
could
also
research
and
make
recommendations
for
the
longer
term
improvements
in
either
case
individuals
who
use
the
dog
park
on
a
regular
basis
and
have
a
commitment
to
it
being
the
best
dog
park
the
city
can
afford
would
be
providing
the
input
needed
to
help
staff
and
council
make
decisions.
If
such
a
committee
were
to
be
formed
soon,
it
could
also
provide
input
to
the
budget
process
for
our
next
fiscal
year.
G
The
northbound
bridge,
seen
by
many
as
a
folly,
don't
throw
the
baby
out
with
the
Battle
of
bathwater
I'm
a
strong
advocate
of
the
Peace
River
Wildlife
Center
projects,
which
incorporates
a
synergistic
campus
of
multiple
venues.
These
two
projects
will
integrate
fisherman's
village,
including
the
Sunseeker
water
taxi,
the
Riverwalk,
the
military
museum,
the
Visual
Art
Center,
the
library,
the
history
Park
hounds
on
Henry,
with
the
Peace
River
Wildlife
Center
as
the
focal
point
the
linear
park
and
additional
walkways
will
add
to
the
experience.
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What,
if,
in
the
short
term,
1
to
3
years,
there
is
a
decline
in
additional
infrastructure,
needs
to
historical
district,
2.75
million.
What
percentage
is
for
necessary
infrastructure
improvements
and
what
percentage
is
for
aesthetics?
Should
aesthetic
enhancements
be
based
on
the
principle
of
benefited
area?
3,
complete
street
improvements,
Cooper
and
Airport,
4.8
million
u.s.
41
3
million
boehner
basco
400,000
Shrieve
street
350,000,
4
total
of
eight
million
five
hundred
and
fifty
thousand?
G
Is
it
the
right
time
to
be
considering
nice
to
have
enhancements
versus
projects
are
needed
to
support
and
maintain
the
current
infrastructure
for
capital
program
management?
Ninety
thousand
a
year
for
a
part-time
project
manager
with
a
questionnaire,
and
the
fourth
comment
we
got
was
from
Marty
bow
Steen
regarding
the
one
percent
Local
Option
Sales
Taxes,
one
of
the
proposed
projects
is
infrastructure
improvements
to
the
historic
district.
The
proposal
that
was
presented
to
the
historic
district
homeowners
association
at
a
meeting
last
week
proposes
two
phases
of
projects.
The
total
is
3.5
million
dollars.
G
It
was
surprising
to
many
of
the
residents
that
the
project's
proposed
were
all
in
the
East
District.
Not
any
money
for
improvements
to
the
West
district.
I
understand
that
the
east
part
of
the
district
needs
infrastructure
improvement,
but
certainly
the
West
district
has
its
own
problem
areas.
I
feel
that
the
money
is
allocated
to
the
historic
district
be
distributed
equally
for
both
parts
of
the
district
I
asked
that
the
council
review
the
proposed
projects
and
split
the
projects
in
half
sum
for
both
halves
of
the
district.
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Okay,
this
is
an
email
from
Suzy
and
gram.
Vice
mayor
Matthews,
we
applaud
you
during
these
critical
uncertain
times
to
consider
delaying
the
implementation
of
the
increase
in
the
impact
fees.
While
you
have
heard
from
us
prior
to
adoption
on
our
position
asking
for
a
phased
in
approach,
now
is
not
the
time
to
increase
fees
of
any
sort.
H
F
Members
are
coming
forward.
I
know
that
Howard
did
mention
that
having
your
comments
in
by
9
o'clock
so
that
we
have
these
is
advised
so
that
we
can
pull
all
these
together
and
make
sure
that
we
include
everyone's
comment,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
everyone
is
heard.
So,
ok,
our
CRA
members,
are
here
and
I
think
the
camera
probably
can
can
focus
on
each
of
our
members.
This
seems
very
different
having
Charlie
and
bill
standing
at
the
podium,
but
welcome.
Thank.
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G
This
is
the
marina
activity.
You
will
see
some
stars
because
we're
holding
off
on
the
transient
voters
and
the
community
room
were
not
booking
any
more
for
more
than
10
people,
and
so
we
had
to
cancel
quite
a
few
events
in
the
community
room
and
the
pom
pom
vessel
activity.
That's
as
of
March
23rd.
So
that's
why
you
see
it
dipped
a
little
because
it
from
March
23rd
on
probably
had
some
more
pump
outs.
But
that's
when
we
got
the
data.
G
B
F
G
The
tenants
with
most
of
them
now
have
come
to
us
asking.
What
are
we
gonna
do
about
rent
in
April
and
possibly
even
May,
and
who
knows
how?
Long
after
that,
we
don't
know
if
all
of
them
will
be
able
to
qualify
for
the
new
stimulus
package.
The
guidelines
have
just
come
out,
so
there's
a
whole
application
process
and
I
don't
know
how
soon.
B
G
G
G
Last
week
we
got
a
proposal
from
the
bank
who
has
the
loan,
and
it
was
a
very
favorable
proposal
over
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
savings,
4.2
percent
of
refunded
bonds
and
an
annual
debt
service
savings
of
about
seventy
thousand
a
year
that
was
as
of
last
week,
SunTrust
has
merged
with
BB&T.
So
when
it
got
through
their
bureaucracy,
we
got
another
proposal
back
on
Monday
and
it
was
not
favorable
and
they
finally
reviewed
it
in
more
detail.
Only
154th
safe
154,000
savings
over
the
life
of
the
loan
1.3
percent.
The
guideline
for
refinancing.
G
You
want
to
be
closer
to
5
percent
3
to
5,
but
definitely
closer
to
5.
This
is
only
about
22,000
a
year
so
when
it
gets
to
the
council
agenda,
we'll
be
letting
council
know
that,
as
of
today,
we
are
not
going
to
be
refinancing
the
loan,
but
we
asked
our
financial
advisor
to
look
at
other
institutions
to
see
if
it's
even
feasible,
but
that
will
be
discussed
on
the
council
agenda
and
the
annual
report
is
available
online
each
year
we
have
to
do
a
CRA
annual
report.
G
G
Okay,
this
is
the
annual
report
that
is
available
online.
We
do
this
each
year
currently
from
the
tenants
in
Harold,
quartz,
Center
and
I'm,
talking
about
FGCU,
subway,
other
side,
Inc,
Punta,
Gorda,
chocolate
and
wine,
Punta
Gorda
coffee
and
tea,
Morgan,
Stanley,
dream
salon
and
spa
artisans
ITA.
Currently
we
get
around
19
thousand
one
hundred
dollars
a
month
in
rent
and
common
area
maintenance.
G
When
you
go
to
peril
court
center,
the
only
one
that's
really
up
and
running
still
is
subway
some.
What
somebody
still
has
takeout
other
side,
Inc
I,
don't
know
how
much
business
they're
really
doing,
but
the
others,
the
coffee
and
tea,
has
limited
hours
for
takeout
or
purchase
limited
hours.
Y'all.
G
G
From
a
philosophy
standpoint,
it
serves
us
there's,
it
serves
no
purpose
at
all
to
have
empty
stores
down
there.
It
just
doesn't-
and
it's
not
helpful
if
some
of
them
have
to
close
up
permanently
and
leave
that
doesn't
help
us.
Okay,
we
currently
have
one
vacancy
in
a
small
space
and
that
you
know
we'll
we'll
see
who
wants
to
move
in
there
eventually.
So,
as
a
CRA
director,
I
am
asking
what
your
thoughts
are
are
providing
some
sort
of
rent
relief.
I
A
whole
lot
of
different
places
only
because
of
what's
going
on
I
think
it's
prudent
upon
ourselves,
probably
to
waive
the
rent
for
April
and
then
we'll
dress
it
again,
I'm
a
kind
of
see
where
we're
at
at
the
end
of
this
I
don't
agree
with
our
city
manager.
I
think
keep
those
businesses
down.
There
is
the
right
thing
to
do
rather
than
to
lose
him,
because
what
we're
seeing
on
the
state
level,
what
we're
seeing
the
county
level,
we
think
there's
a
whole
host
of
businesses.
F
Bill,
you
were
involved
in
helping
us
attempt
to
attract
people
into
Carroll
court
center
and
it
took
us
years
about
10
years
to
actually
get
to
100%
occupancy
and
in
sales.
It's
it
takes
you
six
at
least
six
times
more
effort
to
find
a
new
customer
that
it
does
retain
the
one
you
have.
So
you
know,
I
think
that
it's
these
are
valuable,
valuable
tenants.
A
Please
yeah
I
sent
Howard
an
article
late
yesterday
afternoon
that
Publix
and
Walmart
are
waiving
rent
for
all
of
their
inside
store
tenants
for
at
least
a
couple
of
months
and
I.
Think
that
same
thing
is
what's
already
been
said,
I
think
it
would
be
prudent
for
us
to
take
that
into
consideration
that
other
major
box,
retailer
type
stores
are
already
and
I.
Think
I.
A
Think
it's
a
it's
a
good
lesson
for
a
lot
of
landlords
that
at
this
point
in
time,
I
would
rather
see
us
waive
the
rent
for
two
months
and
and
or
tack
it
on
to
the
end
of
the
lease
or
something
so
that
we
can
give
them
some
some
breathing
space
right
now.
I
would
rather
do
that
and
not
lose
them
altogether
as
tenants
for
the
long
term
and
I
think
that's
what's
going
to
happen
to
a
lot
of
businesses.
A
G
C
F
I
think
that
you
know
you're
hearing
us,
you
know
give
you
support,
for
if
you
feel
you
need
to
wave
the
their
rep
for
April
and
May,
that
you
know
and
it's
what
we
need
to
do
and
to
be
I
participate
and
take
a
leadership
role
in
our
community
and
demonstrate
that
we
were
trying
to
do
what
we
can
to
support
our
business
community.
Yeah,
they're,
really
hurting
right
now
and
I.
Think
it's
important
did.
J
F
I
F
A
B
F
A
J
Other
point
last
year,
I
had
brought
in
a
copy
of
the
harbor
CRA
annual
report.
You
remember
gave
Howard
a
copy
of
it.
Howard
said
in
putting
together
this
year's
I
would
certainly
helping
they
looked
at
it.
I
think
this
was
a
an
excellent
job
that
presents
a
CRA
in
its
accomplishments
for
last
year
in
a
very
good
light.
So
thanks
to
staff
and
our
thank.
E
I
G
F
B
D
B
F
F
L
F
Been
a
motion
in
a
second
to
approve
a
X
0
3
1
9,
all
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
those
opposed
the
motion
carries
unanimously.
Okay
and
we'll
move
on
to
the
consent
agenda.
Is
there
anything
on
the
consent
agenda?
It's
rather
slim
that
anyone
would
like
to
pull
if
not
that
I'll
entertain
a
motion,
move
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
there's
been
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Those
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
G
M
Okay
good
morning,
everyone
who
is
the
record
communications
manager.
We
are
here
today
to
talk
about
sales
tax
and
it's
our
goal
at
the
end
of
this
time
together
to
have
a
list
ready
to
give
to
Charlotte
County.
The
sales
tax
list
is
due
by
May
1st,
but
if
we
can
get
through
it
today,
I
know
they'd
appreciate
to
have
it
already,
but
we've
gone
through
all
of
the
projects
individually.
The
last
couple
times
we've
been
together.
C
M
F
F
Before
we
do
that,
I
feel
that
in
a
CIP
sheet-
and
this
has
always
been
my
understanding-
that
we
try
to
put
the
dollars
in
the
years
that
they
will
track
with
our
budget
and
so
the
five
million
four
thousand
for
one
hundred
and
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
is
not
in
our
budget.
This
year
it
will
be
in
future
years
and
so
I
think
any
CIP
sheet
should
reflect
that
as
accurately
as
possible,
because
that
is
what
the
public
is
looking
for
as
well.
So
just
a
comment
so.
O
B
O
There
you
go,
we
come
out
and
we
just
square
off.
We
really
just
square
off
the
back
of
the
building.
So
our
folks
move
into
the
training
area
that
the
existing
training
room
and
our
EOC
for
the
bunk
room
would
expansion.
Again.
We
are
at
complete
capacity
with
the
county
rescue
in
there
and
and
all
of
that
we're
also
out
of
room
up
in
the
administrative
offices
we
have,
as
we
spoke
last
time,
five
people
working
out
of
the
converted
closet
off
the
day
room.
O
We
also
have
three
folks
working
out
of
that
fire
marshal's
office,
so
we're
just
out
of
room
and-
and
so
that's
our
expansion
again,
there's
not
a
great.
You
know
a
great
amount
of
detail
as
far
as
what
it
looks
like
completely,
but
that's
our
vision.
We
really
haven't
spent
any
money
with
you
know
real
feasibility
and
drawings
and
all
those
sorts
of
things,
but.
O
N
G
N
Growth
but
I
think
right
now
the
community
gardens
there,
so
they
we
would
be
able
to
push
back
there
so
and
I
made
some
notes,
but
like
we
added
those
new
positions,
we
have
a
community
engagement
unit.
Now
our
volunteer
programs
at
about
eighty
people.
We
have
seven
coordinators
and
those
seven
coordinators
share
an
office
that
only
one
person
used
to
have
so
it's
pretty
small
office.
We
have
nowhere
for
the
commute,
engaging
unit
officers
to
do
to
sit
and
do
their
investigations
apply
for
search
warrants
those
kind
of
things
they're
kind
of
operating.
N
What
they
really
do
is
sit
in
the
lieutenant
DeVault
office
and
use
a
corner.
It
was
desk
basically
right
now,
so
we
we
want
to
be
able
to
grow
further
and
we're
at
capacity
as
well.
We
have
our
evidence
in
property
section.
It
is
busting
at
the
seams
with
ten
thousand
pieces
of
evidence
and
to
the
point
where
we
have
moved
the
long-term
storage
evidence
back
where
we
used
to
process
the
autos.
For
so.
If
we
get
a
an
automobile,
that's
involved
in
some
kind
of
crime,
we
can.
We
can't
process
it
in
there
anymore.
O
N
Of
you
have
been
in
my
conference
room,
it's
a
Lincoln
fits
six
chairs
in
it.
The
fire
chief
has
absolutely
no
conference
room
and
he
they
all
kind
of
crowd
around
that
little
table
in
his
office.
So
it'd
be
really
nice
to
be
able
to
expand
and
have
a
room
where
people
can
come
in
and
meet
and
and
have
enough
room,
as
well
as
a
better
training
room.
So
the
EOC
can
be
more
more
advanced
technology.
Wise.
N
You
don't
want
a
bunch
of
people
here,
and
so
we
need
to
be
building
offices
for
them,
and
then
that
way,
this
administrative
area-
and
let
me
find
it
here-
the
administrative
area.
Here
we
can
convert
that
over
to
our
Community
Services
section
and
our
volunteers,
and
then
the
add-on
could
be
a
new
administrative
area
and
of
course,
the
training
room
and
things
like
that.
Based.
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
F
O
Got
if
you
look
at
our
existing
bunk
room,
so
there's
we've
even
had
to
reduce
our
volunteer.
You
know
participation
because
of
a
lack
of
service,
so
we've
cut
back,
we've
scaled
back
and
and
really
moving
the
county
in
which
has
been
a
great
move.
It
really
has
it's
been
fantastic
for
the
community
for
the
level
of
service,
all
of
that,
but
it
has
really
pushed
us
to
the
limit
and
I
mean
if
you
particularly
you
know,
I
can't
help
but
think
about
today.
You
know
where
we
are
and
talk
about
spacing.
N
B
F
N
M
M
Okay.
The
second
item
is
the
ad
a
improvements
citywide
and
we're
looking
for
750,000
in
tier
1
to
fund
that
we've
spent
four
hundred
and
fifty
seven
thousand.
We
have
six
hundred
and
fifty
three
unspent
and
that
would
bring
us
to
a
total
project,
cost
of
1
million
eight
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
I.
M
F
D
And
you
know
something
that
bothered
me
about:
that
is
we,
as
a
city
council
are
responsible
for
the
citizens
of
our
entire
community
and
if
we
start
going
$50
for
you,
we
have
to
give
$50
to
them.
You
know
we
have
areas
in
the
city
that
need
the
money
and
we
have
areas
in
the
city
that,
frankly,
don't
so
to
say
we
want
half
I,
think,
that's
very
short-sighted.
You
know
we
spend
a
fortune
on
CRA
projects
that
predominantly
are
in
the
historic
districts.
I
mean
they
are
the
historic
district.
The.
J
D
Are
a
city
and
if
it
benefits
one
of
us,
it
benefits
all
of
us.
You
know:
we've
said
that
time
and
time
again,
I
don't
take
my
dog
to
the
dog
park,
but
I
understand
why
we
need
to
have
a
dog
park
and
I.
Don't
like
the
idea
that
we
have
to
put
it
by
the
neighborhood.
We
are
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
and
I
want
to
look
at
our
sales
tax
expenditures
for
the
city.
What
benefits
everybody
so
with
due
respect
to
mr.
Lowenstein
I?
Don't
think
we
have
to
worry
about
that.
Thank
you.
D
B
A
Really,
the
key
word
and
I
think
when
that,
when
the
marketing
gets
done
on
all
of
these
projects,
that
should
be
a
very
big
focal
word
that
they
use
for
the
marketing
it's
about
public
safety
and
it's
what
what
will
help
the
citizens
of
this
city
have
a
comfort
level
that
this
is
their
city
wherever
they
are
everybody.
Yes,
even.
F
Want
sidewalks,
you
know,
I
know
that
part
of
the
discussion
that
has
been
in
my
district
has
been.
We
don't
have
any
projects
in
in
district
5,
and
but
we
don't
need
there's.
You
know
we
had
one
identified
in
burnt
store,
Meadows
for
a
Complete
Streets,
but
the
community
really
wasn't
supportive
of
it.
F
So
you
know
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that,
like
you
said,
we're
focusing
on
that
the
greater
good
of
the
whole
entire
community
as
well
so
and
and
we
had
a
sidewalk
project
that
got
turned
down
in
print
store
aisles
a
number
of
years
ago.
So
this
one
they're
looking
forward
to
it.
So
it's
it's
all
good.
Okay,.
M
The
next
project
is
the
Henry
Street
property
improvements
and
connecting
points
of
interest
that'll,
be
that
whole
Henry
Street
campus.
We
have
1
million
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
Tier
one
two
hundred
fifty
thousand
worth
of
impact
fees,
a
million
dollars
unfunded
prior
to
tier
two,
and
then
we
put
that
million
dollars
into
tier
two
for
a
total
project,
cost
of
three
million
dollars.
A
M
F
D
A
F
D
C
A
I,
just
don't
want
to
see
us
get
these
super
Wildlife
Center
moved
in
there
and
then
we're
going
in
there
with
bulldozers
and
and
tearing
things
up
and
doing
more
renovations
to
the
park.
Let's
get
it
done
and
over
with
and
do
it
as
one
solid
project
is
my
point
and
I
understand
what
you're
saying
Debbie
but
I
just
think
that
in
this
particular
case,
that's
one
project
we
want
to
get
done.
We
wanted
to
be
done.
A
Maybe
this
is
the
time
we
should
talk
about
using
some
of
the
fisherman's
village.
Land
use
money,
I
mean
land
purchase
money,
because
this
this
project
needs
to
be
done
and
everything
should
be
done
at
one
time.
So
we're
not
continuously
tearing
things
up
like
we
did
with
the
Harborwalk
project
and
Gilchrist
Park.
It's
just
it
just
goes
on
and
on
and
on
I'm.
B
F
M
We
can
we'll
hold
this
out
and
we'll
continue
going
down
through
the
rest
of
the
list
and
see
what
comes
up
just
keep
in
mind
too,
that
Peace
River,
Wildlife
Center
might
not
be
ready
as
quickly
as
the
council
might
decide
that
they
want
some
of
the
other
projects
done.
So
that
would
allow
phasing
in
that.
M
We
have
five
hundred
and
sixty-four
thousand
in
the
current
sales
tax
spent
have
just
about
a
million
dollars,
unspent
two
million
unfunded
prior
to
tier
two
and
nine
hundred
ninety
one
thousand
suggested
in
tier
2,
which
leaves
us
a
shortage
of
around
a
million
dollars.
Total
project
cost
for
eight.
F
I've
heard
people
say
that
they
felt
that
doing
these
things
is
going
to
be
very
important
in
the
future
and
and
providing
these
is
going
to
really
help
our
community
that
people
are
getting
out
more
now
and
using
our
facilities
and
so
for
us
to
enhance
the
facilities
is
going
to
make
us
even
more
attractive.
As
Sunseeker
comes
to
fruition.
F
For
example,
there
is
a
sidewalk
on
Cooper
Street,
it's
not
a
multi-use
trail,
but
there
is
a
small
sidewalk
I've
written
on
and
on
my
bike,
the
sidewalk
that's
on
Cooper
is
on
the
county
side,
not
the
city
side
so
and
doesn't
link
up
with
the
verandas
and
the
shopping
center.
So
it's
really
trying
to
help
the
residents
link
up
with
the
shopping
center
I
just.
B
D
D
E
Yeah
I
think
I
mean
if
we
were
to
move
stuff,
it
will
be
justified
if
it
was
for
the
arm
was
Henry
because
they
both
still
would
improve
the
walkability
aspect,
but
why?
This
is
the
tractors
because
walkability?
If
we
actually
enhance
an
area
that
area,
then
I
think
they
may
be
hitting
the
same
purpose.
I
think
even
the
same
type
of
walkability
purpose
right.
G
B
G
Was
all
part
of
the
original
plan
to
link
all
the
all
the
neighborhoods
with
a
pathways?
So
the
first
priority
is
to
complete
the
airport
road
link
from
41.
It's
a
merc
along
41
to
the
verandas.
That's
the
smaller
of
the
two.
The
reason
that
the
Cooper
Street
Merc
was
part
of
the
original
pathways
plan
was.
It
goes
by
all
of
the
neighborhoods
that
front
Cooper,
Street
in
the
city
plus
three
schools,
Sally
Jones,
on
board
a
middle
and
the
high
school.
G
That's
the
original
thought
process
way
back
when
if
we
could
somehow
preserve
at
least
enough
dollars
to
get
the
airport
road
section
complete
to
the
verandas,
which
then
takes
the
people
from
the
verandas
to
the
shopping
and
then
the
Myrtle
141,
if
we
could
at
least
preserve
that
that
would
we're
finishing
the
design
of
both.
So
the
design
of
Cooper
Street
when
we're
done
is
not
gonna
go
to
waste,
because
we
will
eventually
want
to
do
that
eventually,
as
part
of
the
original
pathways
plan.
P
For
the
record,
Richie
Lawson
urban
design
I'm
the
project
manager
for
for
the
design
process,
which
is
underway
with
our
consultants,
CPH
they're,
very
in
the
very
early
stages
of
that
so
they're
sort
of
planning
estimate.
When
we
were
initially
talking
about
it
would
be
the
project
because
the
railroad
crossing
the
airport
road
project
would
cost
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
a
million
dollars.
P
So
that's
the
total.
There
is
existing
funds
in
the
in
the
current
capital
improvement
program
from
the
existing
one
cent
sales
tax.
For
both
of
these
projects,
which
we
are
funding
the
design
out
of
and
hope
to
fund
some
of
the
constructions
so
I'll,
let
the
finance
people
talk
to
what
the
balance
may
be.
G
G
B
G
A
F
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that
I.
Don't
want
to
lose
I,
don't
want
it
having
been
involved
in
this
since
2008
in
as
a
community
volunteer
and
working
with
the
city
on
this
plan.
I
really
feel
this.
This
plan
is
a
really
important
one
for
the
community,
and
so
I
don't
want
to
see
us
just
throw
it
out,
but
I
think
shifting
the
dollars
around
because
we
have
to
is.
A
D
Here's
another
take
on
okay,
we
have
a
City
Hall
that
is
sick.
We
have
a
park
area
that
we
have
to
get
done
because
of
moving
pieces.
That
space
for
the
sidewalk
will
be
there.
City
Hall
might
not
be
right.
I,
just
don't
I
still
see
that
as
a
nice
to
do
and
I
understand
that
you
know
people
are
invested
in
it
because
they
worked
on
it.
D
But
to
me,
because
I
didn't
we're
kind
of
maybe,
but
to
me
it
still
seems
like
that
would
be
a
really
nice
thing
to
have
that
completed,
whereas
we
have
some
real
real
needs
that
we
need
to
address
and
if
we're
not
going
to
fund
them
out
of
our
own
general
fund,
we're
gonna
do
it
out
of
the
sales
tax
money.
We've
got
to
make
some
serious
decisions.
B
E
F
F
C
C
A
A
F
A
G
F
G
G
F
B
B
M
M
D
A
D
K
M
M
Get
through
the
rest
of
these,
the
harbor
walk
us
41,
bridge
approach,
lighting,
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
in
Tier
one.
We
have
a
hundred
and
twenty
thousand
in
the
current
sales
tax
program
that
hasn't
been
spent
and
that'll
leave
us
an
unfunded
estimate
of
three
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
I.
D
F
F
P
P
P
We
can
go
back
and
speak
with
FDOT
and
see
what
they
think
the
realistic
possibilities
are.
We
know
we
currently
have
that
120
thousand
and
the
existing
sales
tax.
Maybe
we
could
do
one
of
the
two
roadway
segments
with
those
funds
or
maybe,
if
they
understand
what
project
we're
actually
trying
to
accomplish,
we
can
get
both
sides
done
with
a
little
bit
of
cooperation
between
the
two
agencies
we
can.
We
can
explore
more.
P
F
Yeah,
we've
got
lights,
it's
not
that
we
don't
have
lights,
it's
it's
that
we
don't
on
41,
northbound
and
southbound.
We
had
decorative
lighting
in
this
city
and
then
there
are
these
highway
lights
and
then
the
bridge
is
decorative
lights,
correct,
and
so
it's
the
owner
of
the
Four
Points
by
Sheraton,
continuously
asks
me.
When
are
we
going
to
replace
these
lights
and
put
up
decorative
lights
so
that
it?
What
goes
in
front
of
the
hotel,
looks
like
the
rest
of
the
city
when.
K
D
A
Maybe
we
put
it
in
Tier,
two
I
mean
you
know:
I
just
you're
right,
it's
a
it's!
A
one
I
have
not
a
need
to
have,
and
and
that's
again
you
got
to
look
at
what
the
voters
are
gonna
be
willing
to
approve
and
what
they're
not
and
they're
gonna
say.
Oh,
you
want
to
put
prettied
street
lights
out
there.
We
don't
want
to
pay
for
that.
So.
C
B
D
Yes,
it
is,
and
I
I
have
been
approached
by
the
Civic
Association
by
three
condo
associations
and
by
some
individuals.
So
this
this
has
garnered
a
lot
of
support
in
my
district,
and
you
know,
even
though
it's
not
just
for
my
district,
because
other
people
benefit
by
trying
to
get
to
Fisherman's
Village
when
they're
walking
that
area
I
think
this
is.
This
is
a
must-have,
because
somebody's
gonna
get
hurt
once.
F
D
F
M
F
D
B
G
We're
back
to
this
project
again
that
other
one
fell
through
so
we're
now
back
to
the
Baynard,
Vasko,
sidewalk
and
okay,
and
that's
to
do
some
connections.
Monte's
already
has
a
sidewalk.
They
had
to
put
one
in
their
construction,
so
the
rest
of
Baynard.
To
to
you
stop!
You
know
you
have
people
coming
out
of
the
fitness
and
they
use
it.
You
see
people
on
that
street.
It's
a
very,
very!
G
D
D
F
M
The
Miranda
drainage
improvements
for
the
bulk
of
grand
area,
2
million
dollars
the
host
for
tier
1,
there's
potentially
a
grant
of
$100,000.
We
have
current
sales
tax
spent
up
737
current
unspent
339,000.
Our
unfunded
estimate
prior
to
tier
2,
would
be
nine
hundred
thousand
proposing
using
tier
two
funds
of
nine
hundred
thousand
to
complete
the
4
million
dollar
project.
D
E
D
F
G
F
G
F
F
B
B
F
Agree
with
you,
Debbie
we've
talked
about
this
for
years
and
years
and
years,
and
it's
it's
one
of
those
I,
don't
know
how
many
residents
would
understand
the
need.
So
when
we're
talking
about
voting
for
something,
but
it's
one
of
those
that
all
you
have
to
do
is
show
pictures
and
explain
that
you
know
poor
kids
are
out
there
and
the
summertime
can't
play
in
their
own
yards
because
they're
just
it's.
M
M
G
F
B
F
B
F
D
F
B
G
M
B
A
C
A
F
A
F
M
F
F
A
F
M
Okay,
so
and
then,
if
we
go
back
up
to
the
Henry
Street
property
improvements,
we
don't
have
additional
dollars
to
reallocate
unless
we
would
make
some
changes.
So
that
would
leave
us
with
the
million
750
proposed
into
your
one.
Two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
and
impact
fees,
unfunded
of
a
million
dollars
prior
to
tier
two
and
a
million
in
tier
two.
B
A
That
was
something
that
was
here.
We
go
sidewalk
connections,
West
Marion
del
Harper,
Reeve,
a
million
five,
so
I
mean.
But
there
are
that's
a
that's
another
one
of
those
really
really
difficult
roads
to
maneuver
for
people
who
are
trying
to
walk
on
that
part
of
the
road
and
I
have
had
a
lot
of
people
ask
for
that.
C
A
So
if,
if
they
and
they
don't
cross
over
before
they
get
to
over
the
bridge,
so
they
want
to
walk
on
the
south
side
of
Marion
Avenue
and
we're
missing
some
huge
segments
of
sidewalks
down
that
strip
of
Marion
Avenue,
there's
a
section
and
then
there's
a
missing
section
and
then
there's
a
section
and
there's
a
missing
section.
It's
very
weird.
The
way
it
was
done,
I
don't
even
know
how
or
why
that
happened.
But
we
really.
C
A
B
B
C
F
M
We
did
actually
no
I
didn't
I,
took
the
200
from
the
bernard
and
Basco
and
the
hundred
and
80
from
the
lights
and
held
that
aside.
So
that
was
that
380
that
we
had
additionally
and
then
that
million
that
came
from
the
complete
street
improvements,
I'm
Cooper
Airport
area.
So
we
don't
right
now
we
don't
have
any
funds
unallocated
at
this
point.
C
M
G
B
C
A
A
Right
right
and
that's
that's
the
part
of
the
area
I'm
talking
about
didn't
see
there
used
to
be
a
couple
of
buildings.
There
I,
don't
know
how
long
you
guys
have
all
lived
here,
but
met
back
way
way
way
back.
There
was
a
real-estate
office
building
and
part
of
that
vacant
parcel.
That's
just
east
of
where
Keller
Williams
is
on
the
corner.
A
There
was
a
real
estate
building
that
had
Better
Homes
and
Gardens
real
estate
was
in
there
and
there's
some
other
offices
that
were
in
that
building
and
there
were
some
other
things
along
that
strip
and
I.
Don't
know
if
the
sidewalks
got
taken
out
at
some
point
when
those
buildings
were
torn
down,
I,
don't
know
what
happened
but
but
there's
a
whole
lot
of
inconsistencies
of
as
far
as
where
the
sidewalk
is
or
isn't
on
that
whole
strip
of
Marion
Avenue
I've
had
a
lot
of
people
ask
for
that.
If.
D
P
For
the
record
Mitchell
Austin
urban
design,
so
the
area
in
question
is
basically
between
cold
lay
drive
and
Bal
Harbor
Boulevard,
that's
the
main
area.
Again.
You've
got
the
four
lane
undivided
cross
section
of
Marion
Avenue,
because
the
right-of-way
constraints,
drainage
and
right-of-way
acquisition
are
probably
the
driving
costs
in
terms
of
how
expensive
this
project
would
be
currently
I
believe
we're
maxed
out.
We
have
only
a
couple
of
feet
outside
of
the
edge
of
pavement
that
is
within
the
city's
right-of-way
and.
P
D
P
A
lot
of
green
space
there,
unfortunately,
it's
just
not
green
space,
we
control
as
a
city.
We
could
explore
if
there's
a
lot
of
community
desire
for
this,
especially
if
it's
coming
from
this
homeowners
associations
that
own
the
condominium,
the
common
elements
we
could
explore
to
see.
If
there's
the
desire
to
do
a
donation
for
an
easement,
so
we
can
actually
put
the
walkway
in
without
having
to
acquire
land
that
would
that
may
mitigate
the
cost
significantly
and
make
it
a
more
realistic
from
a
cost
perspective
sidewalk
project.
P
B
B
F
B
D
D
A
M
Q
D
Q
F
M
F
Hugging
I
wear
two
I
would
say
in
my
opinion,
even
though
I
know
that
mr.
Surovell
has
asked
me
for
this
for
a
lot
of
years
that
the
sidewalk
on
Marion,
it
was
probably
a
higher
priority.
So
if
we
were
to
then
allocates
its
public
safety
and
so
I
think
if
we
were
to
allocate
some
tier
two
funds
toward
this
project,
and
that
would
give
us
time
to
work
on
the
right-of-way,
so
maybe
that
if
we
can
come
in
scrap
up,
like
a
you
know,
a
half,
a
million
or
something
like
that.
Q
Q
F
F
A
M
F
Don't
see
any
other
way
for
us
to
deal
with
this
at
this
point
in
time,
I
think
I
don't
disagree
with
with
vice
mayor
Matthews,
at
all
on
the
notion
of
doing
everything
lot
you
know
completely
so
with
that
in
mind,
then,
if
we
do
have
to
face
something,
we
want
to
face
something
so
that
it's
the
least
disruptive
to
the
Peace
River,
Wildlife,
Center
and
figure
out.
How
can
we
do
something?
F
F
Just
like
the
friends
of
the
forest
park,
children's
playground
I
suggested
that
a
few
months
ago
yeah,
but
we
don't
need
to
formalize
that
they
formed
themselves
right,
and
so
the
Friends
of
the
dog
park
can
form
themselves
and
start
to
study
it
and
come
up
with
breakfast
and
even
fundraise
and
just
like
they.
They
raised
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
children's
playground,
so
so
that
that
can
happen.
F
M
A
F
H
M
More
time
I'd
like
to
thank
all
of
you
for
working
on
this,
and
also
thank
you
to
our
committee
members.
They
worked
really
really
hard
to
put
together
a
good,
solid
list
for
you
and
look
forward
to,
hopefully
the
vote.
The
voters
agree
with
all
of
the
decisions
that
were
made.
So
thank
you.
You're.
F
Next
agenda
item
refinances
the
city's
2012
revenue,
I've
you've
already
talked
about
that
Howard.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
say
on
that?
So
we
can
move
on
then
a
new
business
reconsideration,
the
2012
may
20
20,
20,
effective
date
for
development
impact,
piece,
biasing
or
Matthews.
You
put
this
on
the
agenda.
G
G
Amending
the
ordinance
and
stretching
out
the
implementation
date
to
some
other
date
may
be
a
month
or
two
that's
up
to
you
right
now.
May
20th
will
be
the
effective
date,
so
you
can
certainly
amend
it
if
you
want
to
instead
of
May
20th
put
another
date
in
there.
We
know
that
all
indications
are
that
that
at
least
through
May,
what
we're
hearing
today
will
be
dealing
with
this
and
probably
beyond
me.
We
think,
but
at
least
we
now
know
I
know.
A
If
we
push
this
back,
maybe
60
days-
and
maybe
you
know-
is
the
same
as
what
we
just
did
for
the
rent
with
with
the
parking
garage,
tenants,
I,
think
if
we
push
this
back,
maybe
two
months,
it
will
give
people
some
breathing
room.
I
know
there
are
some
pending
building
permits
that
are
gonna,
be
coming
online
fairly
soon.
One
of
them
is
the
assisted
living
facility.
I
know,
I
can
tell
you.
A
I
spoke
with
him
last
week
and
and
they're
they're,
just
they're
going
crazy,
trying
to
get
a
lot
of
things
done
right
now
that
have
to
be
done
for
other
ongoing
construction
projects
that
they
have
in
the
works
and
and
it
would,
it
would
just
give
them
a
little
breathing
room
to
not
have
to
be
really
pushing
hard
to
get
the
building.
Permit
filed
before
May
20th
at
this
point
and
I
just
thought
it
would
be
a
good
benefit
for
anybody
that
is
really
getting
ready
to
do.
F
Know
that
a
lot
of
the
the
actions
that
have
been
taken
by
the
federal
government
have
been
focused
on
existing
businesses
and
not
future
businesses,
so
I,
don't
know
you
know
that's
how
this
will
stimulate
this
is
this
is
about
growth
and
not
about
today's
businesses.
The
actions
that
we
took
earlier
as
a
CRA
were
more
about
today's
businesses.
You.
E
A
C
Given,
if
we
didn't
have
the
Kadena
virus
right
now
would
not
vote
for
extending
it
at
all
and
I
agree
with
you.
The
mayor
that
this
is
new
business,
not
existing
business,
that
we'd
be
helping,
but
given
everything
we're
doing
around
the
country
right
now
and
trying
to
get
back
on
an
even
keel
and
the
idea
that
I
think
miss
Graham
said
it
this
morning,
and
you
know,
building.
B
F
D
I'd
like
to
look
at
it
from
another
side,
I
understand
where
you
all
are
coming
from.
However,
if
you
look
at
our
list
of
sales
tax
items-
and
you
look
at
the
things
that
we
said-
we
needed
impact
fees
for
we
didn't,
we
didn't
decide
to
implement
the
impact
fees
to
punish
business.
We're
you
know,
that's
not
what
we
did.
We
did
it
because
we
as
a
city
need
the
money.
D
So
my
where
I'm
struggling
is
how
do
we
balance
the
needs
of
our
community
to
have
a
new
public
safety
building
to
have
adequate
sidewalks
to
have
adequate
parks
with
to
businesses
that
might
be
coming
into
town?
And
we
have
not
been
growing
exponentially
in
our
business
standpoint
and
I
cannot
see
we're
not
implementing
something
that
we
decided
we
needed.
We
decided
we
needed
this
mm-hmm.
B
D
F
A
They
were
going
to
try
to
get
the
building
permit
paperwork
completed
before
May
20th,
but
at
this
point
in
time
it
may
not
be
possible
to
do
that
and
that's
part
of
the
problem
I'm
just
and
I'm.
Just
there
could
be
other
businesses
that
are
out
there
in
the
same
position.
I
don't
know
this
happens
to
be
one
that
I
have
been
in
communication
with.
B
E
C
E
D
E
No,
no,
no
we're
talking
about
people
who
may
want
open
I
mean
we're
talking
about
again.
Even
when
we
passed
this.
We
kept
discounting
like
the
commercial
aspect
of
this,
and
we
are
going
to
need
to
have
more
people
doing
business
in
our
city
to
bring
us
back
and
I.
Just
don't
see.
I
I
just
see
this,
as
as
a
reasonable
gesture
is
better
to
have
something
than
nothing.
I
mean
this
is
a
disincentive.
We.
H
E
F
A
G
Only
for
new
construction,
correct
yeah,
the
the
impact
fees
for
the
assisted
living
Kirstin,
Socorro
they've
already
submitted
their
building
plans
so
because
they
have
already
submitted
their
building
plans,
they
haven't
paid
the
impact
piece
yet,
but
as
long
as
they
submitted
their
building
plans,
they
would
still
be
under
the
current
fee
schedule,
not
the
future.
They.
F
C
G
A
A
I
did
not
know
that
until
he
just
said
that,
so
that
would
make
a
difference
for
them.
I,
don't
know
how
it
will
affect
other
new
construction.
That
I
was
simply
saying:
I
thought
it
would
be
a
nice
gesture.
I
mean
we've
waited
this
long.
We
can
certainly
wait
60
more
days.
That
was
like
my
whole
criteria
for
bringing
it
up.
F
F
C
L
If
the
ordinance
remains
as
is,
and
the
idea
is
that
payment
of
the
funds
as
soon
as
the
ordinance
becomes
effective
may
be
a
hardship
given
the
times
and
circumstances
that
exist
at
that
time,
then
a
grace
period
to
allow
them
to
avoid
having
to
pay
the
impact
fee
at
that
time
could
be
granted,
but
that
would
not
relieve
them
of
the
obligation
of
paying
the
impact
fee
at
the
expiration
of
the
of
the
grace
period.
What.
D
F
F
E
D
G
L
F
F
G
F
G
L
L
F
F
People
in
the
room-
yeah,
we
hope
everybody
out
there
is
enjoying
today's
meeting
and
you've
got
your
feet
up
on
your
desk
and
you're.
You
can
have
your
water
or
coffee
in
your
listen,
very
good
press
forward
and
we
are
going
to
talk
about
the
Taylor
Road
Fortran
RV
project
regarding
utilities,
service,
availability,
I'll,.
G
G
R
Don't
have
those
comments
in
front
of
me
mr.
Cooney,
but
one
of
them
was
a
two-inch
force
mean
it
could
be.
Did
that
was
just
for
just
for
just
just
to
show
where
it
would
go.
It
could
be
a
4-inch
force
man,
but
the
real
issue
is
the
city
doesn't
really
want
to
do
low
pressure
they
want.
They
want
to
force
this
commercial
park
to
put
in
a
central
system
which
is
its
cost
prohibitive,
so
much
so
that
they
refer
to
these
Lots
and
septic
Watts.
Well,
they're,
not
septic.
R
The
city
just
spent
a
small
fortune
to
upgrade
I,
put
a
force
main
in
down
Joan's
loop,
so
the
force
main
that
serves
this
park
and
others
along
Taylor,
Road
and
burns
store,
has
capacity.
The
force
bang
goes
right
through
the
center
of
the
park.
The
issue
is
that
the
city's
policies
were
a
little
too
strict.
R
Now,
if
the
city
would
want
to
be
I
mean
that's
a
central
sewer
system
to
be
built
in
there
understand
the
roads
are
there
if
they
had
to
put
gravity
in
the
lift
station,
you're
gonna,
put
in
all
new
roads,
lift
stations
and
everything,
then
you're
gonna
have
a
real
outpouring
of
people
that
don't
want
to
do
it.
What
I
would
like
is
for
the
city
to
to
flex
a
little
bit
on
the
technology
that
is
used
in
there,
maybe
help
them
help
them
put
in
the
force
made.
R
There's
a
hundred
and
sixty
connections
in
that
Park,
88,
160,
ER,
use,
I
think
the
connection
fee
is
still
3,500.
You
know
that's
seven
hundred
thousand
dollars,
you
put
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
force
man
in
and
you
recover.
You
recover
that
and
just
connection
fees,
and
it's
Saturday
is
that
the
the
the
the
the
master
plan
identified
these
areas
as
as
project
areas
and
scored
it.
Three
point:
seven
were
four
is
a
priority,
but
on
top
of
this
being
a
score
of
three
point,
seven
they're
ready
to
go
they're
ready
to
go
there.
R
R
They
want
to
do
sewer,
they
wanted
that's
what
should
be
done
and,
according
to
the
Florida
Statutes,
you
should
be
enforcing
that
you
spend
all
that
money
to
get
that
sewer,
so
they
could
use
it,
and
then
you
tell
them,
they
can't
use
it
and
really
it's
the
policy
because
of
the
policy.
The
city
has
that
they
won't
allow
a
little
pressure.
Well,
I
will
agree.
Low
pressure
is
more
as
a
higher
operating
cost,
then
gravity
in
the
beginning
until
the
gravity
fails
in
a
few
years,
15
or
20
years.
R
Just
I
really
would
like
for
the
city
to
to
to
flex
a
little
bit
they
flex
on
the
technology
they
flex
on
the
there
their
willingness
to
help
and
you're
doing
what
your
master
plan
that
you've,
I
assume
have
adopted
says
you
should
do
this.
This
place
is
the
highest
priority
and
surface
proximity
to
surface
water,
the
highest
priority
and
ager
septics
low
priority
and
nitrogen
level,
but
probably
because
they're
so
close
to
the
water
and
so
leaking
into
the
into
the
water.
R
It's
it's
the
reason
I'm
focusing
on
that
is
because
I've
had
other
projects
and
the
argument
was
they
wanted
priority.
Well,
what's
a
priority,
it
is
a
priority.
It
just
wasn't
labeled
one
two
or
three:
it's
as
high
a
score
as
any
of
the
other
ones,
and
you
have
a
developer
willing
to
do
it.
The
neighbors
have
our
he
owns
two
parcels.
He
wants
to
do
it
on
both
the
neighbor
said
he
wants
to
hook
up.
You
just
approved
another
one
down
the
road
with
a
septic
within
within
I.
R
Don't
know,
600
feet
from
the
sewer.
I
mean
I
I,
just
it's
just
not
I'm
at
a
loss
to
understand
why
the
utility
would
just
blankets,
say
no
sewers
not
available
and
I
think
it
is
I,
think
that
that
is
closed
on
the
property
and
and
wants
to
move
forward
with
this,
and
for
that
the
city
puts
forth
some
money.
The
development
developer
puts
forth
some
money,
they
use
a
technology
that
is
feasible
now
if
it
was
a
completely
new
park,
raw
land
sure
require
them
to
put
gravity
in.
R
But
if
you
don't
understand,
gravity
gravity
goes
very
deep
and
the
deeper
you
go,
the
wider,
your
trench,
all
the
roads
are
gonna,
be
gone.
Everything
has
to
go
to
put
gravity
out
there
and
it'll
just
never
happen.
So
why
did
we
spend
all
that
money
on
the
force
main
on
Jones
loop?
Only
to
tell
the
people
that
want
to
hook
up
it's
too
expensive
to
look
up.
R
R
R
Collection
connection,
fees
and
the
revenues
it
just
makes
good
business
sense
and
it
gets
more
connections
on
the
utility
I
know
you
have
priority
areas,
they're
primarily
residential,
but
one
of
my
one
of
my
downsides
is
people.
Some
people
don't
complain,
but
one
of
my
upsides
is
a
lot
of
people
will
be
happy
about
it.
R
G
What
we
need
to
do
is,
as
we've
done,
other
developers.
Agreements
in
the
past
sit
down
with,
in
this
case,
Wyler
engineering
and
come
up
with
an
overall
plan
for
this
area
run
the
plan
through
the
utility
advisory
board,
along
with
the
the
revenues
and
expenses
associated
with
this,
and
a
draft
of
a
developer's
agreement,
have
the
utility
advisory
board
review
it
and
then
bring
it
back
to
City
Council?
That's
how
the
process
normally
works.
E
What
murders
why
I
brought
this
forward
is
because
sometimes
we'll
put
projects
into
a
certain
box-
let's
say
the
secular
sewer
box,
but
we
fail
to
see
that
we
also
have
opportunities
to
benefit
the
city
in
terms
of
actually
bring
revenues,
and
this
is
the
case
where
this
is
why,
of
course,
we
have
this
process
where
we
reduce
stuff
case
by
case,
but
we
have
a
situation
in
which
without
question
the
city
is
going
to
benefit
financially
from.
This.
E
Is
that,
in
the
case,
if
you
have
someone
who's
willing
to
build
infrastructure
which
they
can
a
private
person,
builds
it's
going
to
be
far
less
than
us
building
it.
Secondly,
because
the
state
statute
that
requires
people
to
have
to
hook
into
it,
we
with
certainty
will
get
paid
a
lot
more
than
what
our
contribution
would
be
to
for
this
reimbursement,
and
so
it's
one
of
those
things
where
I
think
that
realizing
that
our
utility
is
our
greatest
asset
and
that
our
city
does
seem
to
generate
revenues.
E
I,
just
think
that
we
should
consider
projects
that
if
the
numbers
are
there
to
justify
us
investing
in
it,
especially
when
there's
a
great
return,
I
think
that
we
should
consider.
This
is
one
project
where
you
have
someone
willing
to
pay
upfront
cost,
but
they
don't
want
a
paper.
The
whole
thing,
because
they're
not
gonna,
be
the
only
beneficiary.
We
actually
are
the
certain
beneficiary
because
we
are
going
to
be
able
basically
they're
gonna,
be
our
clients
and
that's
one
thing
with
us
with
our
utility
any
situation.
E
When
we
build
infrastructure
where
we
get
subscribers,
it
benefits
us.
We
have
long-term
customer,
there's
no
choice
but
the
users,
and
so
this
is
one
case
in
which
we
will
benefit
as
a
city
greatly
from
this
project.
So
this
is
why
I
thought
it's
important
that
we
have.
This
conversation
is
because
there
are
situations
like
this,
which
we
actually
can
do
the
numbers
and
say
based
on
the
connections,
that
the
city
is
actually
going
to
be
cash
positive
in
this
relationship,
and
so
that's
why
I
thought
this
is
important
to
bring
this
forward.
D
R
We
put
it
on
the
agenda
to
discuss
it
and
honestly
before
this
yesterday
afternoon,
the
city
had
never
considered
for
a
second
and
for
any
of
my
projects
would
consider
vacuum
and
the
so
that's
the
best
answer.
I
could
give
you
I
agree.
It
should
go
through
the
whole
process
I'm
here
today
to
just
get
you
to
give
me
the
support,
the
support
to
go
through
the
advisory
board
and
get
this
approved,
because,
as
of
right
now,
staff
is
saying
sewers.
None
available.
Okay,.
D
I'm
very
reluctant
to
move
on
anything
without
the
appropriate
board,
sending
it
to
us
this.
This
is
the
only
reason
that
this
has
bothered
me.
You
know,
I,
think
it's
a
wonderful
plan.
I
think
it's
got
a
lot
of
potential
for
the
city.
I
hope
it
happens,
but
I
want
to
hear
from
the
people
who
are
tasked
with
assessing
these
things
that
it's
that
it's
a
go,
because,
right
now
it
doesn't
look
like
you've
got
that
from
staff
on
what
we've
been
given.
So.
R
I
think
been,
the
answer
to
your
question
is:
maybe
can
the
council
indirect
staff
and
the
utility
advisory
board,
both
of
which
work
for
this
council
to
to
move
forward
and
try
to
figure
it
out
and
not
just
they
referred
to
be
for
antiseptic
lots?
They
referred
to
these
lots
and
said
you
know
what
if
they
want
sewer,
they
should
go
by
a
lot.
So,
okay.
D
I
understand
that,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
it
said
in
here
that
the
reason
we
had
to
rush
into
this
was
because
your
due
diligence
was
about
to
expire
and
that
that
concerns
me
I,
don't
I,
don't
like
that
kind
of.
So
if
you've
got
so
you've
got,
we've
got
time
to
work
it
through
the
right
way.
Oh,
we
have
okay
and
Howard.
You
are.
The
staff
is
willing
to
consider
vacuum.
D
G
R
R
G
B
A
A
There's
a
couple
of
things
that
that
were
red
flags.
For
me,
number
one
is:
will
this
project
the
annex
into
the
city
at
such
time
as
it
can
be?
Because
I
think
this
is
one
of
those
opportunities?
We
can
enact
our
ordinance
that
we
voted
on
several
years
ago
that
if
anybody
gets
on
our
water
and
sewer
system,
that
they
sign
a
letter
of
intent
to
annex
at
the
time
that
they
are
contiguous
to
other
properties
in
the
city.
A
This
is
one
of
those
opportunities
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
the
cost
implication
to
the
city
is
going
to
be
for
this
project.
If
the
city
has
to
invest
money
in
it
or
reimburse
money
for
the
project,
but
I
certainly
would
like
to
see
this
go
through
utility
advisory
board,
and
we
cannot
tell
staff
we
can
not
direct
staff
to
go
in
a
certain
direction
on
a
project
that
is
not
our
job.
A
It
is
up
to
the
staff
to
make
a
recommendation
through
the
utility
advisory
boards
recommendation
and
then
they
bring
it
to
City
Council
and
we
discuss
it
and
we
vote
on
it.
So
we
can't
do
what
you're
asking
us
to
do.
It's
not
it's
not
feasible.
It's
not
ethical
and
I
would
not
support
that
I.
While
I
don't
disagree
that
it
would
be
good
overall
to
get
properties
on
our
sewer
system
rather
than
on
a
septic
system.
I
think
we
have
to
go
through
the
proper
channels
and
get
this
down
the
right
way.
F
E
Thing
I
want
to
be
clear.
Why
I
put
this
on
the
agenda
as
a
discussion?
I
love
you
there
was
not
supposed
to
be
action
per
se.
What
it
is
is
that
it
was
for
us
to
have
a
conversation
so
that
we
actually
give
give
give
our
staff
more
flexibility
to
consider
projects,
because
right
now
we're
in
a
very
tight
box
we're
pretty
much.
C
B
C
Do
anything
here,
we'd
have
to
see
the
whole
project
I
know.
Staff
has
already
said
that
the
4
inch
may
pump
is
the
right
thing
to
do
for
Spain.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do
and
that
2
inch
and
there
were
a
couple
other
issues,
but
it
sounds
like
you've
been
work
talking
about
them
and
we
just
need
to
have
you
proceed
and
do.
F
F
Would
agree
and
I
support
absolutely
support
that
and
thank
you
for
coming
here
and
and
sharing.
What's
updating
us
on
the
fact
that
there
isn't
as
the
sense
of
urgency
that
was
given
to
us
in
our
pre
agenda
package,
for
us
to
actually
make
a
technical
decision?
Yeah
I'm,
not
a
technical
expert
on
sewers,
so
I
would
need
a
lot
of
advice
and
but
I'm
completely
agreeing
that
we
need
to
go
through
that
taken
to
the
utility,
Advisory
Committee
and
work
with
staff.
F
R
R
That's
yours:
that's
the
force
main
that
didn't
have
capacity.
You
couldn't
put
any
more
sewage
in
the
net
force
main,
so
you
did
the
one
on
Jones
loop
to
relieve
that
force
main
and
and
believe
me:
they're,
not
they're,
not
buying
this
property
just
because
it
has
sewer
or
not.
They
just
think
it's
a
good
way
to
do
business.
So,
yes,
the
force
main
belongs
to
you,
but
and
has
capacity.
R
But
in
order
to
hook
to
that
under
your
current
policy,
three
three
o'clock
yesterday
was
we
build
a
regional
lift
station
with
all
gravity
interrupt
the
street
or
we
put
us
up
together
and
yesterday
afternoon,
Steve
and
I
spoke
and
Steve
didn't
mention
the
vacuum.
So
a
few
things
have
changed
since
councilman
Cummings
get
this
on
the
agenda
and
some
is
really
yesterday
so
I
think
I
think.
The
main
reason
that
was
coming
today
was
to
have
you
folks
say:
hey
Steve,
at
least.
D
G
The
reason
we
did
that
the
Jones
Loop
Road
forced
me
the
city
paid
for
that,
because
it
benefited
our
system
as
a
whole.
We
needed
to
put
that
force
main
in
for
capacity
in
that
whole
area
of
future
development.
We
pay
for
that
because
it
benefits
our
system
as
a
whole
to
provide
enough
capacity.
That's
why
we
did
that
properties.
R
A
We
have
an
ordinance
in
place
that
was
voted
on
by
City
Council
several
years
ago,
when
I
first
got
elected
and
the
there
is
a
process
that
if
someone
comes
online
with
our
water
and
sewer
system,
that
they
sign
a
letter
of
intent
to
annex
at
such
time
as
they
become
contiguous
to
other
properties
in
the
city.
That
would
be
a
good
opportunity
for
this
project
that
I'm
suggesting
that
we
should
take
a
look
at
that
when
the
time
comes.
F
R
But
they
did
one
right
down
the
road
that
is
being
built
or
it
may
be
finished
by
David
Anthony.
He
put
a
septic
and
he's
he's
within
six
or
seven
hundred
feet
of
it,
but
but
it's
really
up
to
the
camp
on
a
septic
in
if
the
utility
doesn't
say
sewers
not
available.
So
if
they
utility
said
well
sewers
there,
the
health
department
can't
issue
a
septic
permit,
so,
but
but
prior
to
whenever
that
came
online.
You
really
couldn't
hook
to
that
anyway,
but
it
runs
right
through
the
center
of
the
project.
R
So
it
just
makes
sense
and
it
makes
sense
from
an
economic
in
a
business
standpoint,
and
you
know
if,
if
we
come
in
here
and
I,
think
idea,
design
a
banking
system
and
trying
to
go
through
the
YouTube
would
be
advisory
board.
Although
I
don't
think
my
time
was
wasted
here.
I
think
I
get
a
a
good
feel,
but.
R
F
L
B
F
B
D
B
G
L
E
A
F
E
Right
I
I
brought
this
up
because
I'm
I
was
speaking
to
a
public
adjuster
about
out
of
the
post
pandemic
time
and
about
how
our
people
can
be
in
the
best
position
to
be
able
to
get
insurance
claims.
And
speaking
with
her,
she
referred
me
to
the
ordinances
that
that
were
done
on
Panama,
City
and
Pensacola,
as
well
as
they
as
New
York
and
adding
the
language
about
the
damage
being
caused.
E
Actually
because
of
the
fact
that
these
places
for
the
port
of
public
to
be
able
to
feel
comfortable
about
resuming
on
more
business,
they
were
have
to
be
mitigated
in
some
manner,
and
so
the
recommendation
was
that
we
simply
add
this
that
this
would
not
had
any
extended
liability
for
anyone
for
any
other
claims.
But
this
was
just
a
measure
that
local
governments
are
doing
to
make
sure
that
their
businesses
are
able
to
possibly
maximize
their
their
insurance
claims.
I.
D
E
F
F
E
F
E
Public
adjuster
they're
actually
registered
with
the
state,
and
this
this
is
something
that
is
done
by
many
municipalities,
but
it's
done
because
there
actually
is
damage
and
it's
in
its
it's
an
actually
for
a
fact.
Some
of
our
businesses
don't
have
iris
clauses,
and
so
this
was
something
that
would
benefit
our
people.
D
E
Basically,
the
way
to
his
I
said
that,
because
the
surfaces
have
been
contaminated
by
this,
that
you
would
have
to
mitigate
the
space
because
of
it
that
the
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
feel
comfortable
that
you
would
have
to
possibly
clean
and
do
whatever
you
have
to
do
to
be
able
to
make
the
spaces
are.
The
public
is
feel
safe
again.
So
that's.
E
E
F
B
L
So
I
asked
I,
asked
our
our
HR
director
mr.
Wickstrom,
to
contact
our
insurers
and
seek
their
advice
with
respect
to
any
potential
liability.
This
might
create
if
we
put
it
into
our
resolution
since
I
really
didn't
have
a
clue.
So
he
sent
me
yesterday.
He
sent
me
a
an
email
which
I'll
read
into
the
record,
so
that
do
you
hear
what
his
his
expert
opinion
is,
so
he
did
not
hear
from
back
from
our
insurers,
but
he
did
say
my
opinion.
Is
that
the
resolution
should
be
adopted
without
the
proposed
language?
L
We
are
not
in
the
business
of
insuring
property,
values
or
maintained,
except
for
the
liability
we
incur
due
to
a
code
enforcement.
The
language
we
are
proposing
is
too
vague
and
gives
the
impression
that
the
city
could
have
done
more.
For
instance,
if
the
city
determines
that
implementing
a
total
shutdown
of
the
city
is
not
a
wise
move.
The
additional
Clause
could
lead
to
a
theory
that,
because
we
did
not
do
so,
we
recklessly
allowed
the
spread
of
the
virus
further
than
what
might
have
been
without
a
shutdown
order.
L
E
L
L
Don't
believe
that
as
a
settled
question
of
law,
because,
as
you
can
imagine,
these
types
of
issues
like
this
doesn't
occur
very
often
as
the
city
attorney
and,
if
you
elected
to
take
that
position,
if
you
felt
it
was
necessary
to
do
so,
I
feel
that
I
could
come
up
with
sufficient
legal
theories
to
defend
the
city.
In
the
case
of
a
lawsuit,
I.
B
F
L
The
break
I
was
asked
regarding
this:
the
status
of
the
aleko
lawsuit
against
the
city.
You
may
recall
a
few
months.
A
few
meetings
ago,
I
indicated
that
early
in
March
we
had
a
hearing
before
the
Circuit
Court
Judge
on
the
city's
motion
for
summary
judgment.
On
the
basis
of
the
running
of
the
statute
of
limitations,
the
judge
took
that
ruling
under
advisement
and
still
has
not
yet
ruled.
Yesterday,
I
received
an
email
that
was
issued.
It
was
an
order
from
the
court
directing
us
to
appear
before
the
magistrate.
L
I
was
very
confused
by
that
that
order,
I'm
sure
that
you
or
hear
that
you
may
have
gotten
a
copy
of
it
as
well
and
wasn't
sure
how
to
take
it
before
I
had
to
react.
We
got
another
order
from
the
court
saying
that
they
had
said.
They
may
have
said
that
in
I'm,
sorry
canceling,
the
previous
order,
I
believe,
talked
to
one
of
my
partners
that
that
may
have
been
issued
automatically
by
a
computer
in
error
and
when
the
error
was
realized
that
rescinded
it.
L
B
H
Clerk
just
have
one
thing
in
reports
and
committees
clinic
order:
Housing
Authority
is
moving
forward
with
their
April
and
May
meetings.
They
have
some
business
to
take
care
of
with
HUD
and
as
well
as
with
the
current
pandemic
situation,
so
they
would
like
us
to
announce
the
two
vacancies.
These
are
two
four-year
terms.
It
was
also
for
their
chair
and
their
vice-chair
sometime.
B
H
F
And
be
done
here
under
policy
and
legislation.
I
have
just
one
of
two
things,
but
one
thing
that
I
want
to
bring
up
a
city
manager
suggested
I
bring
it
up.
Now.
I
got
a
an
email
last
night
from
the
owner
of
Monty's
pizza
that
they
had
a
sign
out.
I,
don't
know
what
the
sign
said,
because
I
didn't
have
a
chance
to
email
back
and
forth,
but
a
sign
was
out
there
I'm
assuming
Lisa's
here.
So
the
a
sign
that
must
have
said
something
like
takeout
or
something.
Okay,.
D
F
S
Owning
official,
actually,
what
was
out
there
was
a
large
flutter
flag.
Oh
and
the
code
officer
stopped
by.
Let
them
know
flutter
flags
are
currently
prohibited
by
the
code,
but
offered
her
the
option
of
a
banner.
You
know
to
use
the
banner
or
another
sign
a
stick
in
the
ground
sign
for
the
businesses
we've
been
we've
either
been
walking
by
or
driving
by.
If
it's
a
business
that
says
we're
open,
we're
giving
them
business
event
permits
for
30
days
on
their
sign,
so
we
can
help
them
out.
Okay.
S
If
the
code
officers
are
out
there
and
they
see
it,
they
they
come
back
and
say
we
can,
let's
just
issue
them
a
permit
or
not
saying
anything
to
them,
we're
trying
with
the
state
of
emergency
the.
Of
course
the
city
manager
has
the
right
to
to
usurp.
What's
in
the
code
right
now,
this
was
a
large.
It's
not
a
real
good
picture.
I
could
put
it
up
on
Elmo,
but
it
was
a
large
flutter
flag
that
was.
B
S
F
F
S
A
F
Good,
thank
you.
Okay,
I
had
one
more
thing
and
I
just
wanted
it.
I
guess
this
is
really
to
the
people
out
there
that
I
really
want
to
thank
people
for
those
people
that
I
think
are
probably
listening
to
this.
You
are
involved
in
the
community,
you
care
about
our
community
and
and
thank
you
for
being
safe,
keeping
the
social
distance
I
like
to
call
physical
distance,
because
I
think
we
need
to
be
social,
whether
it's
on
you
know,
Facebook
or
FaceTime
or
or
zoom
calls,
and
things
like
that
and
connecting
with
people
but
I.
F
Think
it's
it's
really
for
those
of
you.
It's
showing
your
leadership
and
billing
to
be
a
leader
in
the
community
and
helping
us
helping
us
with
get
the
message
out,
and
all
of
us
here
I
know,
are
working
hard
to
get
the
message
out
as
much
as
it
possible,
but
to
all
of
you
out
there
that
may
be
watching
this.
Thank
you
for
helping
try
to
do
what
we're
being
advised
to
do
and
I'm
captivated
by
listening
to
dr.
F
Fauci
and
Burks
and
and
their
updates
on
a
daily
basis
and
and
what
we
all
can
be
doing
and
to
those
people
that
are
ignoring
this
because
I
think
it's
not
serious.
It
is
a
serious
situation.
So
it's
something
that
all
of
us
working
together
as
I,
have
said
in
the
article
that
I
put
in
the
paper
off
we
were
working
together.
We
will
achieve
the
optimal
outcome
whatever
that
will
be
so
I
want
to.
F
Thank
you
all
for
doing
that
and
I'm
staying
in
touch
with
us
and
communicating
if
and
I
appreciate,
all
the
questions
that
come
through
get
wanting
clarifications
on
things,
because
we
want
to
help
communicate.
We
want
people
to
feel
that
we're
all
in
touch,
and
we
we
don't
want.
You
know
I,
want
people
to
just
relax
and
we're
going
to
all
get
through
this.
E
A
I,
concur
with
what
you
just
said:
please
folks,
everybody
out
there
who's
listening,
please
pay
attention
and
please,
let's
get
through
this.
Sooner
than
later,
there
are
people
who
are
losing
their
lives
from
this
this
virus
and
it
is
serious
stuff.
So
we
really
need
to
pay
attention
and
really
follow
the
the
guidelines
that
the
CDC
and
the
Health
Department
are
sharing
with
us
and
I.
Think
it's
really
critical
to
get
through
this
as
fast
as
we
can.