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Utilities Advisory Board 5-24-2021
C
D
D
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
The
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
anybody
who
wants
to
help
me
can
help
me
with
this.
C
C
C
Are
there
any
citizens
comments
at
this
time
on
agenda
items?
Let
the
record
show
no
response.
E
Okay
and
then
we'll
do
election
a
chair
right
away,
since
that's
since.
F
E
E
E
Definitely,
thank
you,
and
so
you
are
appointed
chair
by
acclamation
and
now
I'd
like
to
open
the
floor
for
nomination
of
vice
chair.
D
No,
no
I'll
be
just
fine
here.
I
think
the
the
first
order
of
the
business
to
be
recognizing
that
bill
tucker
did
just
a
wonderful
job
as
our
chair
for
how
many
years
now
bill.
D
Thank
you.
Okay
next
was
a
review
and
approval
of
the
minutes.
C
B
D
Caricature
next
to
reports
checked
on
the
operational
data
review
of
water
and
wastewater.
D
G
Yes,
sir
chuck
palace
utilities
director
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
two
new
members
welcome.
Thank
you
for
serving
on
the
board.
I
think
you'll
find
it
a
pretty
pretty
informative
committee
to
be
on
the
board
to
be
on.
G
And
we'll
be
bringing
you
different
items
for
your
review
and
hopefully
you
know,
get
a
recommendation
that
we
take
to
city
council
and
the
major
items
from
this
from
this
committee
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
feel
free
to
call
our
office.
If
you
need
a
tour
of
the
road
plan
or
if
you're
interested,
let
us
know
so
in
your
packet
is
the
monthly
report
that
we
prepare
a
lot
of
numbers
on
it.
G
But
let
me
go
to
a
chart
that
shows
what
a
great
decision
the
city
made
moving
forward
with
the
reverse
osmosis
plant,
which
you
can
see
here
is
the
blue
line.
Is
our
contaminant
level
maximum
contaminant
level
and
the
red
is
what
the
surface
water
plant
is,
would
have
red
on
its
own
without
the
auro
plant.
G
So
we
would
not
have
met
our
the
maximum
contaminant
level
we've
still
been
under
our
our
waiver,
but
with
the
again
the
oro
plant
in
the
blended
water.
We
are
meeting
that
chap.
G
D
C
I'd
I'd
like
to
to
note
my
appreciation
to
you
and
and
to
staff
at
the
water
treatment
plant
on
on
keeping
that
green
line,
so
so
low
and
so
stable
across
there
in
in
view,
particularly
of
the
increasing
increasing
trending
even
higher
on
on
the
raw
water.
That's
something
we
could
never
do,
of
course
in
the
past,
and
it's
the
vision
of
of
all
of
the
utility
board
in
the
city
that
that
they
spent
the
time
and
the
effort
and
installed
that
plant
and
got
it
up.
G
Much
me
apologize.
Let
me
for
the
new
members.
Are
we've
got
some
staff
members
here?
Just
so
you
know
steve
adams
he's
a
utilities
engineer
been
with
the
city
a
long
time
and
we
have
steve
leonard
he's
a
senior
project
manager,
so
all
the
hard
projects
we
we
give
to
him
the
impossible
ones
we
give
to
him.
G
He
oversaw
the
ro
plant
construction
and
that
came
in
on
time
under
budget
reluctant,
not
reluctantly,
but
we're
going
to
give
him
the
wastewater
plant
expansion
so
he's
looking
forward
to
that
does
an
outstanding
job
for
us
and
then
kristen
hears
the
finance
director
so
she's
the
money
person.
G
Okay
in
your
packet,
you
should
have
gotten
items
that
we
put
on
the
council
agenda
for
the
previous
month
and
they
approved,
what's
called
a
developer's
agreement
where
on
riverside
drive,
the
developer
is
there's
a
project
out
there
and
steve
adams
worked
very
closely
with
the
developer
they
want
to
put
in
another
package
plant.
G
He
convinced
them
that
they
should
extend
the
force
main,
so
they
they
agree
to
do
that.
They
will
design
it.
They
will
construct
it
once
it's
accepted,
they'll
turn
it
over
to
the
city
and
we'll
reimburse
them
75,
since
25
of
the
flow
is
attributed
to
them,
and
that
line
will
actually
be
able
to
be
available
for
other
developments
along
riverside
drive,
as
as
their
permits
run
out
on
their
package
plants.
D
F
Yes,
derek
is,
is
that
steve?
Is
that
the
the
10-acre
project
or
the
south
side
of
riverside,
or
is
this
something
further
up
the
line,
because
I
knew
there
was.
A
E
H
The
new
project
is
where
my
finger
is
now,
which
is
what
we
used
to
call
hucklebee,
because
that
was
the
owner
and
it's
in
between
riverside
and
17
and
they'd
like
to
put
a
rv
resort
there.
H
H
So
we
looked
at
it
a
second
time
and
their
engineer
and
their
lawyer,
their
attorney
reviewed
it
and
they
actually
asked.
If
we
could.
You
know,
go
back
to
the
force
main
extension
model
and
that's
what
we
prepared
and
showed
the
city
council.
F
Does
the
does
the
county
and,
if
you
know
or
not,
does
the
county's
mandatory
connection
ordinance
require
existing
package
plans
to
connect
into
or
or
only
single-family
homes.
H
Don't
know
the
exact
language
about
existing
package
plants,
so
the
dep
regulates
them
and
they
have
to
get
a
permit
every
five
years
and
there's
a
potential
that
dep
fort
myers
could
come
up
with
a
schedule
relative
to
the
permit
operating
permit
to
phase
them
out
yeah.
They
could
say
we
we're
going
to
give
you
this
permit,
but
the
next
five
year
cycle
you
should
probably
be
thinking
about.
H
They
have
to
look
at
you
know:
do
we
continue
to
pour
money
into
our
facility,
or
is
there
a
possibility
of
looking
for
other
options
and
the
reinforced
people
have
called
me
even
this
year
wanting
to
keep
up
to
date
on
any
developments?
So
you
know
there's
a
possibility.
C
I
have
a
question
too
steve
has
is
banks
the
entity
that
will
be
in
charge
of
of
talking
to
the
people
along
both
private
and
other
entities
along
that
route
to
see
to
poll
them?
If
you
will
of
what
their
interest
is
and
their
knowledge
and
and
desire
to
to
hook
up.
H
H
C
H
C
H
B
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
feel
we
we
have
these
three
or
four
little
package
plants
out
there.
I
assume
this,
you
know
you
got
to
help
me.
I
assume
this
is
not
in
the
city,
no
okay,
so
it's
out
it's
outside
the
city
limits.
Now,
how
would
you
expect?
Let's
say
this
bottom
one
here?
Let
me.
B
G
B
F
B
I
Chris
and
simeone
finance
director,
so
I
think
what
could
be
done
or
what
would
possibly
be
done
again
to
help
them
come
into
the
city
and
use
that
force
main
would
be
spreading.
Those
payments
out
so
like
when
we
talk
about
doing
the
septic
to
sewer
project,
we're
not
gonna,
say:
hey
you're
gonna
have
to
pay
all
these
costs
up
front
they're
going
to
be
spread
over
time.
So
anyone
that's
already
has
a
home
built.
I
The
impact
fees
would
be
included
in
the
in
the
cost
for
the
undeveloped
properties,
they're
not
going
to
get
the
impact
fee
charge,
yet
they
would
get
their
impact
fee
charge
when
they
actually
build,
and
so
that
would
be
all
at
once,
but
for
the
existing
properties
they
expect
to
do
it
over.
You
know
possibly
20
years.
You
know
to
try
and
help
smooth
that
for
them
again,
that's
also
including
the
construction.
So
here
we're
doing
the
construction
we're
paying
for
the
construction
up
front,
75
percent
of
it
as
they
mentioned
for
that
project.
I
So
we
may
do
something
where
it's
10
years
or
something
like
that
for
those
customers
or
you
know
again,
we
would
look
at
it
with
the
septic
to
sewer.
We
do
plan
to,
hopefully
put
it
on
the
property
tax
bill
versus
putting
it
on
the
monthly
monthly
bill
for
them,
but
that
way
if
they
sell
the
home,
that
goes
with
the
property
versus
like
and
can
be
part
of,
the
selling
costs
and
stuff
like
that
and.
B
H
Okay,
these
will
require
a
custom
owned
and
maintained,
lift
station
to
deliver
water
to
our
facility,
which
is
near
colusa
creek.
Now
they
already
have
an
on-site
station
that
pumps
directly
to
their
on-site
plant,
so
sometimes
they
can
reconfigure
that
as
far
as
some
of
the
costs
associated
with
this,
you
never
know
like,
for
instance,
in
lake
county.
H
Nutrient
criteria,
nutrient
criteria,
which
is
a
big
whether
the
state
could
come
in
with
some
grant
funding
to
help
make
these
connections
as
part
of
their
nutrient
reduction
policy.
So
some
counties
are
already
doing
tmdl,
which
is
total
maximum
daily
load
where
they
set
a
criteria
or
a
maximum
load
on
nutrient.
If
they
did
a
tmdl,
then
they
would
be
grant
funding
available.
H
H
H
H
H
F
H
Really
connecting
package
plants
to
public
sewer
has
a
very
similar
benefit
of
septic
to
sewer
in
terms
of
nutrient
reduction.
The
big
benefit
with
septic
to
sewer
is
reducing
nitrogen
and
phosphorus
loading
to
waters
of
the
state.
This
does
the
same
thing,
so
this
was
a
kind
of
a
low-hanging
fruit
project.
H
C
Steve
this
was
this
was
in
the
big
overall
study
that
was
done.
Wasn't
it
with.
We
have
eight
or
ten
phases
of
of
septic
to
sewer,
and
this
was
pushed
number
seven
or
eight
or
whatnot.
C
You
may
remember
not
the
few
who
are
brand
new
to
the
board,
but
but
we
have
looked
at
this
recently
for
buttonwood
and
some
places
here
in
in
enclosed
within
the
city
limits
as
the
ones
of
first
importance
in
a
septic
to
sewer
system,
and
this
was
one
that
was
pushed
on
out,
maybe
five
six
ten
years
into
the
future.
C
H
Similar
area,
they
were
doing
septic
to
sewer,
meaning
they
were
taking
existing
planted
lots
which
are
primarily
residential
and
figuring
out
how
to
provide
public
sewer
in
those
areas,
and
they
split
it
into
many
planning
districts.
And
then
they
identified
charlotte
park
area
123
as
the
high
priority.
So
that's
our
first
nine
years.
C
H
20
years
down,
it
would
be
quite
a
few
years
out
before
we
that's
that's
the
only
one
septic
to
sewer,
which
is
actually
a
little
different
than.
F
This
yeah
well,
the
thing
to
consider,
though
you
know
and
and
to
to
build
to
your
point,
is
those
are
single-family
homes
and
they
represent
individual
voters
that
the
county
commission
has
to
consider
on
whether
or
not
to
add
in
these
are
more
sophisticated
because
they're,
the
the
property
owner
associations
and
you
know
like
an
msbu
type
project,
so
the
the
project
in
charlotte
park,
the
city,
went
to
the
county
and
said
you
know
county.
Will
you
consider
creating
a
district
not
voluntarily?
F
This
would
be
voluntarily,
so
it
would
be
lower
priority.
But
for
this
this
this
force
main
extension,
but
it
could
be
easier
to
overcome
and
it
doesn't
cost
the
city
anything
except
making
sure
that
we
have
the
capacity
at
the
plan.
I
Yes
again,
chris
and
simeone
finance
director,
so
just
to
bring
up
the
subject
to
sewer
project
when
we
took
that
to
the
county,
they
had
done
their
study,
but
they
excluded
the
the
residents
that
were
in
the
city's
service
area.
So
their
study
did
not
include
any
of
ours.
So
when
we
did
our
study
and
included
those
areas
and
then
brought
it
to
the
county,
they
were
going
to
try
and
relook
at
it.
I
But
generally
they
just
gave
us
that
they
would
support
our
project,
but
they
were
not
going
to
help
with
the
funding
at
the
time.
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
that
out
there
because
of
course
we
felt
like
hey
these
are
county
residents.
They
should
be
in
your
plan
for
some
of
the
funding
that
would
be
available
for
these
types
of
projects,
but
at
the
time
they
were
not
ready
to
support
that.
B
Chairman,
yes,
I
would
ask
staff
to
follow
up
on
this
steve
to
get
with
these
the
water
quality
people
at
the
county
and
bring
us
a
report
back
when
you
accomplish
meeting
with
them
and
get
any
sort
of
determination
that
they
may
make
or
feedback
that
they
give.
You
concerning
this
you'll
be
happy
to
do
that.
D
Thank
you,
you're
welcome.
Next
we
have
the
review
of
the
total
dissolved
solid
solids
chart.
I
would.
G
E
I
You
can
see
that
charges
for
services
are
coming
in
about
five
percent
overall
above
miscellaneous
revenues
are
about
52
percent
above
our
water
transfers
for
water
and
sewer
impacts
are
per
our
schedule,
so
we've
made
350
000
and
then
the
rest
will
be
done
towards
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
we'll
be
updating
the
carryover
beginning
in
the
next.
For
the
next
meeting
we
have
finally
finished
our
audit
and
that
will
be
updated,
so
it'll
go
up
a
little
bit
there.
I
It
does
take
into
account,
though,
that
we
did
have
expenditures
that
weren't
finished
at
the
end
of
the
year.
They
were
either
in
purchase
orders
or
we
requested
for
carryover
that
equaled
442
000.,
so
that
has
been
already
been
brought
over
to
fiscal
year.
2021.,
the
divisions
are
doing
very
good
they're
staying
and
again
they
always
really
try
hard
to
stay
within
their
their
budget.
I
So
you
can
see
they're
ranging
anywhere
from
88
percent
to
about
96
percent
transfers
are
get
again
our
per
our
our
schedule,
so
we
did
make
that
final
transfer
mid-year.
So
we
had
done
about
half
in
the
at
the
very
october
one
and
we
did
the
other
half
during
april,
so
all
of
it
is
transferred
over
to
the
construction
fund
for
those
construction
projects,
debt
service.
We
have
done
all
our
transfers
for
debt
service
and
are
making
our
payments
as
scheduled.
I
And
this
just
shows
it
in
a
little
bit
different
way,
just
looking
at
it
total
year
to
year,
you
don't
see
the
year-to-date
budget
compared
to
the
year-to-date
revenue,
however,
for
actual
year-to-date
revenues
we're
about
104
percent
for
water
billings
in
about
104
for
sewer
billings,
we
do
try
to
compare
to
last
year
where
we
were
at
at
this
time
so
our
year
to
date,
water
billings
for
april
of
this
year
are
about
138
000
less
than
the
prior
year.
I
Okay,
we'll
go
to
the
graph,
so
the
graph
just
again
kind
of
shows
you.
I
know
this
one.
I
can
move
out
a
little
bit
so
again
we
try
to
compare
it
year
to
year
again,
when
you
have
your
transfers
in
there.
That's
where
you
see
those
big
spikes
on
the
green
line,
though
the
light
green
lines
and
when
we
compared
it
to
last
year
for
the
new
the
new
members.
I
Last
year,
we
had
a
situation
where
we
were
having
expenditures
and
we
were
in
the
construction
fund
for
the
ro
plan
and,
as
the
revenues
were
coming
back,
they
were
paying
it
back.
So
that's
why
you
see
some
that
say
like
negative,
because
we
tried
to
keep
it
on
the
same
line,
so
it
was
easy
to
see
that
we
were
getting
paid
back,
but
of
course
now
when
we're
comparing
it
to
this
year.
I
It
looks
a
little
funny
so,
but
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
that
was
the
reason,
but
for
the
year
we're
still
doing
good.
Our
revenues
are
coming
in
above
in
our
expenditures
go
to
the
next
one.
Here's
our
graph
we,
this
is
just
water
billings,
because
again
our
sewer
billings
kind
of
follow
the
same
path.
So
there
we
just
use
this
particular
one
for
water
revenues
and
the
dotted
blue
line
is
our
projected
budget
each
year.
I
What
we
thought
each
month
of
what
we
thought
would
come
in
in
the
dark
black
line
is
the
where
we're
actually
coming
in
at
all
the
other
years
or
you
can
kind
of
see
where
they
come
in
and
generally
it
follows
a
pattern.
So
that's
how
we
budget
and
then,
but
there
are
sometimes
different
spikes
depending
on
rainfall
or
something
else
going
on
when
we
have
disasters
and
things
like
that,
any
questions
there
one
question.
I
So
it's
a
little
bit
over
what
we
obviously
thought
and
it's
even
over
what
we
had
last
year,
so
I
would
attribute
most
of
it
to
reduced
rainfall
and
secondly,
we
also
had
residents
that
didn't
go
back
up
north
as
early
as
they
normally
do
so.
Okay,
yeah.
I
I
But
you
can
see
where
we're
where
we're
seeing
the
additional
revenues,
it's
generally
in
the
the
lower
tiers
right
now
so
again,
a
little
more
usage
of
maybe
additional
homes
or
additional
people
staying
versus
the
outside
usage.
So
we
do
see
we're
a
little
down
in
commercial
usage
which,
as
people
are
ramping
back
up,
I
think
we'll
catch
up
there.
I
But
again
we
always
like
to
see
that
we're
coming
in
better
than
we
expected
and,
as
you
know,
we
budget
conservatively.
So
that's
why
we
try
and
go
on
averages
versus
what
just
happened
in
one
year,
because
it
may
not
be
repeated
in
the
next
year
expenses-
and
this
is
just
the
breakdown
of
each
division.
D
D
G
That's
our
chuck
pablo's
utilities
director
mr
hoffman's,
not
here,
but
I
just
wanted
to
let
the
board
know
that
we
do
have
a
certificate
of
appreciation
for
jim
hoffman
for
his
outstanding
service
and
contribution
to
the
utility
advisory
board
from
may
21
2018
to
may
21
2021
for
his
three
years,
so
we'll
be
make
sure
he
gets
this
and
let
the
board
know
that
we
appreciate
it.
Congratulations
his
service.
D
Jim
was
very
active
in
the
the
ro
project.
Wasn't
it
definitely.
G
You
know
had
a
lot
of
support
from
the
board
and
that
helped
the
I
think
council
move
forward
with
that
it.
Just
if
I
could
just
I
apologize
to
the
new
members,
I
should
have
brought
a
map.
Just
you
may
hear
you
heard
kristin
talking
about
inside
outside
so
and
we'll
get
you
some
more
information.
But
if
you
look
at
the
city
limit,
we
have
city
limits,
then
the
utility
service
area
is
larger
than
the
city
limits,
so
we
serve
as
part
of
our
utility
service
area,
part
of
the
county.
G
Also,
so
you
may
that's
the
inside
the
city
outside
the
city,
those
outside
the
city,
pay
a
25
higher
rate
and
that's
that's
allowed
to
by
statute.
G
F
H
H
and
prior
to
that
it
was
much
tighter
and
closer
to
the
city
limits
and
then,
in
in
those
years,
charlotte
county
board
was
looking
at
how
to
do
ecap
and
and
do
some
economic
development
efforts.
And
so
we
wanted
to
amend
the
boundary
to
help
with
ecap.
So
we
moved
it
farther
to
the
east
and
covered
all
the
airport
district,
all
the
ecap
district.
H
F
F
H
H
Yeah,
that's
how
far
they
come
so
far
is
up
to
the
lennar
project.
Their
plant
is
right
at
the
county
line.
They
have
a
water
plane
and
a
wastewater
plant
there
that
was
initially
built
by
the
developer,
which
was
pgi
and
now
the
county
has
taken
those
facilities
over
and
they
serve
those
three
communities
down
there,
which
is
the
villages,
the
lakes,
and
they
also
have
the
berkstorm
marina,
which
is
actually
in
lee
county
right,
and
I
think
they
only
make
about
300
000
a
day
in
water.
F
H
B
B
Chuck,
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
decipher
here.
As
we
talk
about
utilities
inside
the
city
limits
outside
the
city
limits.
What
sort
of
policy
does
the
city
of
punta
gorda
have
as
far
as
annexation?
B
Is
there
anything?
That's
has
been
thought
about
connecting
utility
expansion
to
you
have
to
get
annexed.
Is
there
anything
going
on
there
with
that
yeah?
I
just
come
from
an
area
where
we
controlled.
When
I
worked
out
in
colorado,
we
controlled
the
water.
Primarily
I
mean
you
had
to
go
down
ten
thousand
feet
like
well,
not
that
far
but-
and
so
our
council
was
such
that
you
know
you
want
our
services,
we
want
you
annexed
and
participate
in
our
tax
structure.
G
Gonna
ask
some
of
the
older
ones.
People
have
been
here
longer
than
me,
but
I
mean
there
was
some
preliminary
with
the
charlotte
park.
There
was
some
some
discussion
of
that,
but
we
already
served
them
order.
I
So
I
know
some
of
the
we've
had
some
pre-annexation
agreements
where,
if
someone
is
wanting
to
come
in,
they
have,
they
do
have
to
say
that
they
would
hook
up
if
they're
not
already
hooked
up,
but
again,
a
lot
of
them
already
have
our
service
when
they're
coming
into
the
city.
F
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
it
yeah.
You
said
it
slightly,
but.
D
A
David
first
off,
thank
you.
You're!
Welcome
to
the
board.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
come
from
that
side
of
the
table,
so
I
appreciate
staff
a
lot
and
I
glanced
up
at
the
clock.
It
was
about
23
minutes
after
the
hour
and
staff
stepped
up,
and
I'm
talking
about
the
riverside
drive
and
you
you
know
eloquently
said
it
was
low-hanging
fruit,
but
you
could
have
let
that
fruit
fall
on
the
ground
and
go
away.
So
I
was
very,
very
happy
to
see
staff
so
proactive
to
present
this
extension
and
then
future
connection
fees.
A
Future
revenue
coming
in
it
made
me
smile
as
a
new
resident
of
punta
gorda,
so
I
just
wanted
to
and
within
20
minutes
I
saw
staff
and
you
know
having
worked
on
that
side
there's
times
where
I
could
see
20
years
and
not
see
that
so
in
20
minutes.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
the
director.
Thank
you,
the
finance.
That
was
my
comment
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
welcome.
Thank
you
comments.
G
I
just
I
just
want
to
weigh
in
again
when
that
developer
came
in,
they
were
going
to
put
in
a
package
plan.
A
lot
of
credit
goes,
I
mean
I
watched
it
happen.
Steve
adams
was
pretty
forceful
and
you
know
brilliantly
convinced
them
that
this
was
a
better
option
and
we
got
agreement.
It
was
a
win-win
so,
but
typically
would
come
in
we'd
sign
off
and
they
go
so
it
was
a
good
good
exercise
for
us
and
it
gives
steve
a
lot
of
credit
for
driving
that
home.
I
concur.
F
Chuck
this
chair,
I
have
a
quick
comment
to.
I
just
want
to
dovetail
on
dennis's
comments.
The
city
council's
got
a
lot
already
on
their
plate
and
especially
with
the
new
form-based
code.
A
couple
other
things
they're
doing
so
charlotte
park
is
a
good
example,
but
I
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
at
some
point
if
they
explore
it
further
to
look
at
a
policy
that
incentivizes
annexation
from
the
finance
standpoint.
F
So
you
know
we
go.
You
talk
about
going
to
charlotte
county
to
get
an
assessment
district
you
if
they
don't
cooperate,
that
won't
happen,
but
if
they're
annexed,
the
city
could
set
up
the
assessment
district
itself
and
set
the
terms
in
such
a
way
that
may
be
acceptable
to
the
property
owners
to
come
in.
You
know,
and
so
I
think
I
think
that
that
you
know
the
city
has
talked
a
lot
lately.
At
least
I've
seen
the
city
council
meetings
about
their
their
financial
state
and
making
sure
that
they're
encouraging
you
know
annexation
development.
I
Question
kristen
simeone
finance
director.
I
think
the
city
is
trying
to
move
in
those
directions,
but
they
are
trying
to
be
strategic
about
some
of
their
annexations
as
well,
as
you
know,
have
buy-in
from
the
residents.
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
good
question
with
that.
I
think
we're
up
to
citizens
comments,
but
this
thing
is
how
I
don't
see
any
citizens
here
we
can
probably
move
on
unless
anyone
has
anything
to
add.
We
can
adjourn.
D
That's
the
different
feeling.