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Burnt Store Isles Canal Advisory Committee June 13th, 2023
A
B
C
Call
it
order
roll
call
I.
C
Petroff
here,
thank
you
all
righty.
If
anybody
has
cell
phones
on,
please
ask
them
to
quiet
them
as
Allegiance.
C
C
Have
one
State
and
I
I
need
to
make
anyone
wishing
to
address
the
merch
store,
Isle
Canal
advisory
committee
or
any
other
on
any
subject
they
do
so
at
the
appropriate
time.
During
the
meeting,
those
who
choose
to
speak
must
State
their
name
for
the
record.
Each
person
will
be
allowed
to
speak
up
to
a
maximum
of
three
minutes.
C
Let's
see
if
no
other
announcements
next
meeting
is
scheduled
for
July
11th.
Does
anybody
have
a
problem
there?
Anybody
everybody
expect
to
be
here
so
far
and
you
yes.
C
Okay,
moving
on
to
approval
of
the
minutes,
I
assume
everybody's
read
the
minutes.
Does
anybody
have
any
comments.
C
E
I
believe
it
was
you
that
was
not
here.
I'm.
G
C
D
C
Anybody
else
have
any
other
comments
on
the
minutes.
If
not
I
need
a
motion.
G
C
Second
May
comment:
if
not
all
in
favor,
all
right.
G
C
Moved
moving
on,
we
got
our
reports
first,
one.
D
D
D
Moving
forward
see
wall
replacement
status
report.
This
is
a
different
format
than
the
last
couple
months.
This
is
actually
the
actual
schedule.
Okay,
please
keep
in
mind.
Schedules
are
made
to
be
broken,
okay,
so
this
this
is
the
proposed
schedule
that
we
have
now
so
any
questions
or
concerns
with
the
status
report.
C
D
Good,
so
far,
things
are
looking
pretty
good.
So
far
we
don't
have
any
equipment
breakdowns.
We
don't
have
any
rain
events.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
so
things
are
looking
pretty
good
as
far
as
Mondovi
goes
they're
pretty
much
right
on
schedule.
I
know
here
it
says
our
next
stop
would
be
Tripoli
the
week
of
June
12th.
So
we
do
expect
them
there.
If
not
today,
tomorrow.
C
C
D
Next
report
is
the
permits
authorized
by
City
staff.
We
have
four
permits
that
were
issued
in
the
month
of
May.
These
are
not
all
outstanding
permits.
These
are
just
permits
that
were
issued
for
the
month
of
May
in
the
BSI
District.
C
C
D
Bsi
Inlet
widening
again,
we
have
proposed
to
put
this
project
on
hold
until
the
seawall
Replacements
are
completed.
Having
two
barges
in
the
canal
is
going
to
be
very
challenging.
Having
the
lock
closed,
During
certain
phases
of
construction
will
be
challenging
on
the
Seawall
replacement
contractor.
D
H
D
C
If
such
is
the
case,
and
then
we've
got
a
schedule
now
for
the
sea
wall,
replacement
that
you
have
just
said
is
approximately
10
months
to
complete,
correct
correct.
C
We
have
not
issued
a
contract
for
the
widening
yet
have
we
correct,
correct,
okay,
I'm
suggesting
that
we
move
forward
with
all
of
that
preliminary
work,
so
that
at
that
time,
when
the
sea
wall
work
has
been
completed,
that
we
could
then
move
right
into
the
widening
project
without
any
additional
lost
time?
Does
that
sound.
D
Good
yep
I
appreciate
what
you're
saying,
and
that
was
my
plan
exactly
so
I
I
am
figuring
that
they
should
be
done
with
the
sea
walls
sometime
in
March
or
April,
and
usually
the
bidding
process
takes
about
60
days.
So
in
January
we
can
go
ahead
and
get
that
contract
advertised.
We
can
start
with
the
front
stuff
advertising
the
contract,
awarding
the
bid.
So
by
the
time
the
seawall
contract
is
moving
out,
then
the
lock-winding
guys
are
moving
in.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
H
C
Is
to
not
lose
any
time
all
you
know,
and
you
certainly
are
a
lot
more
aware
of
this
than
I.
Am
that
these
things
do
take
time.
D
D
D
The
BSI
Channel
Corner,
widening
Mr
disher,
is
going
to
give
you
a
presentation
today
on
that.
Okay,
that
project
is
still
on
hold
Master
permit
agreement.
D
So,
let's
see
the
dredging
permit,
we
have
received
an
exemption
for
Inlet,
no
I'm,
sorry
for
Dockside
dredging
from
dep,
so
we
can
move
forward
to
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
and
we
have
to
actually
get
a
different
permit
for
the
inlet
permitting,
but
that's
okay
that
doesn't
really
affect
Burnt
Store
trials
as
a
whole.
So,
okay,
any
questions
on
the
permit
agreement,
status
report.
C
D
C
That
I,
don't
guess,
there's
anything
else
in
what's.
G
The
two
thousand
dollar
amount
for
the
boat
club.
What
does
that
have
to
do
with.
D
That
has
nothing
to
do
with
burnt
striles,
that
is,
for
a
permit
to
re-drudge.
C
All
right,
I
think
we're
done
with
this
nope
quasi-judicial
items
so
we're
down
to
what
are
we
down
to
I?
Guess:
Gary's,
walking
up
General
business
and
oh
no,
we've
done
all
that.
Where
are.
A
We
at
Gary,
we
are
on
staff
comment.
Oh.
C
A
A
A
C
A
B
A
A
G
A
Quite
this
is
a
fairly
heavy
program,
a
fairly
heavy
program
with
a
lot
of
data
included
in
it.
But
the
one
thing
that
I
was
going
to
run
I
seemed
it
seems
to
like
to
you
know,
crash
the
program,
so
I
may
not
get
to
that
part
today,
but
we
may,
at
the
very
end,
I'll
show
you
what
you
know,
but
I've
done
some
Stills
through
on
the
on
the
actual
drawing
so
we'll
be
able
to
kind
of
walk
you
through
it,
but
it
won't
have
all
the
pizzazz
that
we
planned
on
so.
A
Yeah
I
guess
this
study
we've
some
of
the
board.
Members
are
new,
so
you
haven't
seen
this
before.
This
presentation
basically
shows
all
of
the
canal.
The
perimeter
canals
the
Contour
data
set
that
was
included
after
we
did
the
big
perimeter
Channel
dredging
project,
so
that
data
sets
in
laid
in
here
I've
got
Boat
Lift
shown
offsets
from
sea
walls.
A
A
So
you
know
the
barge
can't
get
too
close
to
the
shore.
It
looks
like
we
may
have
more
clean
water,
but
we
don't
trying
to
put
them
in
the
middle
of
the
channel
and
then
also
leaving
room
for
boat
lifts
on
the
side.
A
So
some
of
these
areas
show
where,
where
you
know
two
feet
from
a
lift
and
we're
almost
dragging
The
Rock
Ledge
on
the
other
side
as
they're
squeezing
through
so
I
know,
we
wanted
to
review
some
of
this
data
before
just
you
know,
for
building
permitting
up
a
building
permit
comes
in
on
Perimeter
Channel
we've
got
the
data
set.
That
can
be
looked
at
to
say,
what's
the
you
know,
what's
an
issue
here
right.
C
A
G
A
A
C
C
A
Yeah
we've
had
a
few
four
post
lifts
slip
through
the
system
and
got
built,
and
unfortunately
they
were.
You
know
it's
amazing
how
you
wouldn't
think
that
oh
an
elephant
that
boat
sticks
out
there
just
the
same,
but
you
put
a
four
post
out
there
and
once
you
see
it
on
the
screen,
how
far
it
really
does.
You
know
impact
a
navigable
channel
right
right.
A
A
A
C
B
A
B
B
A
So
what
I'll
do
is
you
can
see?
I've
got
all
the
perimeter.
Channel
mapped
in
here.
I'll
start
just
by
zooming
in
up
with
the
upper
end
here
and
part
of
the
original
discussion
also
is
getting
a
Corners.
We
have
what's
called
you
know
our
tighter
Corners,
where
it's
tough
for
a
barge
to
fit
around.
We
can
I,
guess
here's
one
with
two
rock
ledges.
A
You
can
see
the
the
little
red
lines
with
the
white.
That's
those
are
our
rock
ledges
that
we've
identified
Mangrove
line
is
drawn
in
as
well.
I
can
come
over
here
and
I'll
turn
on
Contour
data,
there's
all
of
our
Contour
data
and
then,
as
we
get
in
closer,
the
depths
will
light
up.
Our
negative
seven
mean
low
water.
Is
that
heavier
line
and
that's
kind
of
our
our
perfect?
A
You
know
dredge
depth
that
we're
allowed
to
dig
to
and
then
I
will
turn
on
our
static
barges
and
this
basically
Stacks
in
a
barge
that
it
looks
like
that
white
footprint
there
and
I've
moved
it
through
each
of
these
Corners
to
show
that,
as
you
know,
you
can
see
right
there.
It's
real
close
to
the
edge
of
the
the
rock
shelf.
A
You
know
within
half
a
foot
or
so
of
the
rock
shelf
and
we're
also
just
squeezing
past
the
rock
shelf
on
this
Edge,
so
it
just
barely
makes
it
through
that
particular
location
and
our
winter.
Low
tides
make
these
areas
worse,
because
obviously
the
barge
is
setting
lower
in
the
water
or
lower
tide.
So
it's
harder
for
them
to
get
around
corners.
A
So
you
can
see
that
our
our
perimeter
channel
is
very
narrow
and
it's
it's.
You
know
difficult
and
obviously
our
Point
data
set
as
we
had
Rock
shelves
on
each
side
and
here
the
when
it
built
the
tin
or
the
surface
modeling.
It
did
straight
line
some
of
these,
but
actually
it
should
be
bowed
out
a
little
more
here
for
Point
data,
but
nonetheless
it's
still
extremely
hard
for
them
to
get
around
this
corner
as
well.
A
Here's
another
one
where
we've
got
a
typical
elivert
and
you
can
see
we're
just
on
the
the
you
know
the
prime
depth
and
we're
within
a
couple
of
feet
of
a
lift
same
down
here,
and
this
is
pretty
much
the
same
all
the
way
through
the
system.
As
we
look
at
things,
I
know
one
of
the
our
hot
button
ones
that
we
had
not
too
long
back
was
right
at
the
entrance
to
the
subdivision.
I'll
just
use
it
down
there.
A
So
that
was
that
rib
that
was
put
in
on.
A
A
A
F
F
Due
to
the
lifts
and
the
the
rocks
and
mangroves
on
the
on
the
opposite
side
at
24
feet.
Are
you
showing
that
it
is
possible
to
do
that?
Just.
A
Barely
yeah,
we're
just
just
squeezing
in
I
know
down
at
Trieste
is
another
bad
one.
At
the
southern
end
of
the
subdivision,
that's
really
narrow
down
there,
so
I
mean
it's
they're
able
to
get
through,
but
it's
it's
tough
for
it.
You
know,
okay,
for
that
to
happen,
and
that
was
kind
of
the
reasoning
for
going
in
and
permitting
and
trying
to
get
with
Charlotte
County
and
opening
up
some
of
our
Corners.
A
You
know
Charlotte
County,
obviously,
is
the
landowner
across
for
the
new
board
members
they
own.
All
of
this
so
we'd
have
to
get
into
an
agreement
with
them
to
purchase
some
property
Mangrove
mitigation
and
then
all
the
permitting
for
the
federal
dredging
field
that
would
be
required
to
do
to
get
there
and
I'm
not
sure
what
kind
of
rock
that
is.
If
it's
just
hard
panned,
it's
not
a
dredgeable.
F
That
was
my
next
question
actually
was
with
those
Ledges
that
are
prominent
there,
which
we
can
just
get
by.
Were
we
to
get
a
permit
to
open
this
up
and
do
that?
Are
we
capable
or
are
we
allowed
to
pull
rock
out
that.
A
Would
be
part
of
that
permitting
process,
we
would
have
to
permit
to
remove
it
because
before
it
was
a
suction
dredge
and
it
was
specific
that
we
weren't
to
remove
Rock
because
then
that's
considered
new
dredge,
the
permit
we'd
be
going
after
is
for
actual
new
dredge,
not
a
maintenance
dredge,
because
if
this
was
you
know,
if
those
areas
were
dredged
originally,
that
rock
would
have
been
gone
already
because
they
would
have
had
their
drag
lines
in
there
back
in
the
originals.
You
know
subdivision
development.
A
They
would
have
ripped
all
that
out
of
there,
so
we
would
have
to
permit
actual
rock
ledge
removal
through
the
you
know,
through
the
different
agencies,
dep
Army,
Corps,
national
Fisheries,
all
those
folks.
So.
A
Definitely
not
a
guaranteed
deal
if
they
didn't
like
it
depends
on
the
benthic
resources
that
are
there
things
of
that
nature.
What
they're
going
to
want
to
look
at,
but
we'll,
never
know
unless
we
submit
for
the
permits
and
work
our
way
through
the
process
and
as
we
reach
build
out
the
more
and
more
we
build
out
the
more
and
more
critical
being
able
to
move
a
fully
assembled
fully
loaded
bars
through
the
canal
system
is
going
to
be.
A
A
It's
not
as
bad
per
se
if,
as
long
as
they're,
not
making
the
turn
to
come
through
the
you
know
which
they
can't
now
they
can't
fit
through
here,
but
as
long
as
they're,
not
making
that
turn
and
they're
already
in
here
assembled
they
they
can
clear
this
one
all
right,
I
know
it's
tough
for
any
boater
coming
through
here,
especially
with
a
following
tide.
It
wants
to
send
you
the
other
side
of
the
sea
wall
there.
For
my
what
we've
heard.
A
A
And
there's
another
one.
Thank
goodness.
This
lot
has
a
lot
of
real
estate
down
here
and
they
were
able
to
put
their
Boat
Lift
there.
If
we
had
anything
on
the
corner
they're
coming
in
and
having
to
make
the
turn
before
they
hit
that
rock
ledge
there
so
it
you
know,
there
are
only
a
few
feet
from
the
sea
wall
on
their
way
through
on
this
one.
A
So
our
perimeter
channel
is
definitely
and
definitely
got
some
some
issues
and
we've
known
that
all
along,
obviously,
probably
the
developers
when
they
originally
developed.
The
subdivision
didn't
anticipate
the
size
of
the
boat.
That's
in
there
now,
because
the
original
lock
was
fairly
short
between
the
two
gates,
so
I
mean
back
in
the
70s
when
they
put
this
all
together
and
up
to
80
when
they
finished
the
sea
walls.
A
C
B
A
Sure
yeah
Alligator
Creek
used
to
not
be
as
deep
as
it
was.
You
know
when
they
went
in
and
dredge
that
the
county
did
that
so
yeah
I
mean
it
was
just
a
shallow
Creek
that
everybody
would
run
up
to
get
to
the
subdivision.
So
yeah
who'da
expected
any
Blue,
Water
Boats,
you
know
sailboats
things
of
that
nature
sitting
in
here.
So
here's
one
where
we
just
just
kind
of
get
past
the
rock
past.
A
The
lift
you
know
it's
just
like
I,
said
more
of
the
same
all
the
way
down
and
everywhere
we
put
in
a
an
elevert
it
we're
just
clearing
the
Rocks
back
here
and
we're
just
clearing
the
lift
as
we're
sliding
by
so
these
guys
got
to
be
real,
careful
as
they're
moving
through
the
subdivision.
A
And
yeah
yet
another
time
when
they're,
probably
hitting
the
rock
here
just
to
get
by
that
lift,
and
that
was
a
four
post
that
got
in
and
it
just
shouldn't.
You
know
this
is
a
prime
example
of
why
we
shouldn't
be
putting
those
four
posts
out
on
the
perimeter
Channel
at
least
in
locations
where
we've
got
an
error
order
like
this
yeah,
the
yellow
birds
they
give
us
room,
but
the
four
posts
definitely
don't.
A
And
I
guess
you
can
actually
see
when
we
dredged
we
had
to
get
up
here
and
then
the
channel
should
have
continued
on
through,
but
we
had
to
step
to
get
around
the
lift.
So
you
didn't
want
to
undermine
the
lift
and
you
couldn't
dig
under
it.
Obviously,
so
we
had
a
few
locations
like
that,
where
they
dug
up
to
the
lift
and
then
I
had
to
narrow
the
the
Waterway
or
the
the
bottom
of
the
dredge
to
get
around
it.
F
A
C
Posters
yeah
been
a
while,
since
I've
looked
at
it,
but
I
remember
being
closer
to
that
to
the
Basin
to
the
Round
Pond.
Or
what
do
you
want
to
call
it
well.
A
A
But
yeah
that
that
wall
drops
off
pretty
quick
there
and
then
you
know,
there's
the
lift
and
that's
without
anything
on
it
poking
out
the
you
know,
the
other
end
of
it
I'm
surprised
we
haven't
had
more
boats
or
more.
You
know,
potential
damage
from
collisions
things
of
that
nature,
just
knowing
what
these
guys
are
working
with.
You
know,
they're
they're.
Turning
with
a
single
push
boat,
you
know
dropping
spuds
trying
to
make
these
turns
happen,
and
things
like
that.
A
We
got
some
really
good
operators
making
these
making
it
through
the
systems.
Here.
A
But
yeah
we
definitely
have
a
lot
of
The,
Rock
or
I
shouldn't
say
it
is
rock.
It
was
hard
enough
that
we
couldn't
dredge
it
with
a
suction
dredge,
so
no
telling
what
it's
really
made
up
of.
If
it's
a
giant
you
know
it's,
not
a
big
piece
of
granite
or
anything
but
I.
Just
don't
know
what
the
the
actual
makeup
is.
I
know
when
the
cutter
head
was
running,
we
had
the
cutter
head,
suction
dredge.
When
that
cutter
head
would
grab
that
wall
or
that
rock.
A
It
would
just
just
rip
right
up
out
of
the
water
or
you
know
up
the
up
the
bank.
It
just
wasn't
going
to
cut
it,
and
you
know
we
had
some
equipment
damage
during
that
dredge
project,
where
it
was,
you
know,
snatching,
cables
and
things
of
that
nature
breaking
stuff,
so
it
definitely
has
a
little
meat
to
it.
It's
not
not
diggable.
A
A
Yeah,
so
this
one
you
can
see
where
the
six
foot
line
is
all
the
way
out
here.
So
we've
got
a
ton
of
extra
shallow
water,
so
at
any
kind
of
a
low
tide,
there's
just
no
water
for
that
boat
to
move
through
and
he's
pretty
much
rubbing
that
lift
as
he
makes
that
corner
to
come
through
and
then
we're
right
on.
A
You
know
right
on
the
dock
right
on
the
rocks
yeah,
just
just
trying
to
get
those
barges
through
more
Rockies
actually
got
him
up
on
the
Rock
a
little
bit
because
I
there
must
have
been
an
image
where
there
was
a
boat
there,
a
lift
where
I've
got
that
orange
line,
drawn
as
a
structure
limitation
and,
let's
see
I,
can
turn
on
my
structure
offsets.
A
So
you
can
see
10
foot
from
the
sea
wall
that
puts
us
out
to
here.
40
feet
from
the
sea
wall
puts
us
to
the
mangroves
basically,
and
then
we've
got
our
50-foot
sea
wall
line.
So
each
one
of
these
we
can
look
at
and
say
you
know,
what's
our
what's
our
upsets?
What's
our
limits
as
we
move
through
the
system?
C
A
A
I'll
turn
off
the
static
and
the
original
presentation.
This
will
probably
crash
it,
but
the
way
this
was
originally
built
was
to
animate
the
barges
to
move
them
through
the
system
to
show,
as
they
you
know,
as
each
one
of
them
made
those
Corners
what
it
took
to
get
them
around
those
you
know,
through
the
system.
A
A
You
know
the
the
tooth
suction
dredge
could
get
through,
and
then
we
went
out
with
a
poll
and
we
were
going
along
just
you
know
jabbing
that
down
in
the
soil,
when
you
were
hitting,
you
know
instant
review,
you
could
just
hear
it
hitting
that
that
hard
band
is
it
really
tight,
compacted
shells
with
some
fines
or
is
it
you
know
like
I
said?
Is
it
a
chunk
of
rock
I'm,
just
not
sure
what
it's
made
up
of
I
mean?
A
F
So
I
I
think
the
question
originally
was
when
we
started
looking
at
this.
Are
there
just
some
areas
where
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
spend
the
money
to
go
in
and
try
and
widen
these
Corners,
because
the
obstacles
be
they
Boat,
Lifts
moral,
Rock
whatever's
in
there
are
two
onerous
to
overcome
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
questions
we
have
to
go
through
as
we
start
looking
at.
What
are
we
going
to
do
from
a
budget
perspective?
What
is
it
that
we
want
to
undertake.
A
Yeah,
if
that's
the
case,
I
think
we've
had
some
of
the
discussion
as
well.
Like
do
you
go
in
and
okay
in
that
back
of
that
Basin
we're
never
going
to
be
able
to
really
get
back
there.
Let's
go
in
and
replace
the
wall
in
that
base
and
be
done
with
that
area
for
the
next
you
know,
60
70,
80
years
or
whatever
I
mean
that's
something
you
could
look
at
doing.
If
there's
some
of
those
areas,
okay,
we're
just
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
back
there
anymore.
C
Well,
I
think
everything
has
a
relative
aspect
to
it.
You
know
you
might
have
a
specific
corner
where
the
rock
is
very
hard
and
do
we
not
do
it
because
of
that
or
do
we
just
have
have
to
have
a
separate
or
a
different
tool,
an
excavation
tool
to
do
it
or
you
know,
or
are
there
other
ways
to
to
tackle
that
that
hard
rock
or
hard
pan
I
think
Gary
calls
it.
B
C
Around
that
Corners
give
or
take
they
they're
all
built
the
same
work
constructed
or
layered
in
the
same
way,
but
you
can
still
have
within
that.
You
can
still
have
certain
specific
hard
spots
that
may
have
to
be
attacked.
You
know
on
an
individual
basis.
Yes,
there's
always
a
cost
involved,
but
you
know
I,
think
this
program
that
Gary's
been
working
on
is
is
a
good
first
step
in
that
direction.
C
F
There
are
alternatives,
such
as
a
smaller
barge
working
from
Shore
yeah.
You
know
all
this
comes
down
to
a
cost
benefit
analysis.
Exactly
if
I'm,
a
resident
and
I
learned
that
I'm
going
to
have
to
spend
a
significant
amount
of
my
money
to
one
buy
land
to
get
the
permanence
three
excavate
under
very
difficult
circumstances,
wrought
to
them
with
a
bill
that
we
don't
understand
and
it's
rapidly
accelerated
or
seems
to
be
rapidly
accelerating
I,
I
think
I'd,
step
back
and
say:
okay,
is
there
a
different
way?
Are
we
attaching
this
problem.
C
A
B
C
A
H
H
We
do
have
the
schedule
for
the
next
six
months
up
on
our
Canal
maintenance
website,
I'm
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
the
contractors
every
month
to
get
an
update
from
them,
and
we
would
love
to
see
if
they
were
ahead
of
schedule,
but
we'll
at
least
be
adding
more
addresses
to
our
list.
Fema
is
in
town
and
they
did
begin
their
inspections.
They're
going
to
be
seeing
every
single
site
in
both
of
the
canal
districts
and
the
contractors
have
been
in
communication
with
the
property
owners
who
are
first
on
the
list.
H
C
H
The
schedule
that
she
has
is
very
similar
to
what's
on
the
website.
The
thing
is,
is
the
one
that
she
has
shared
with.
You
has
all
of
the
properties
on
it
and
it
says
TBD
for
the
ones
that
don't
have
a
schedule,
yet
once
they
are
actually
scheduled,
they
will
go
on
the
website
schedule,
and
so
that
way,
anybody
who
does
have
a
property,
that's
up
for
repair
replacement,
is
going
to
be
able
to
see
that
well.
C
I
guess
what
I'm
asking
Kathy
is
to
keep
with
that
list
that
you
have,
you
may
want
to
add
an
extra
column
or
two
to
it.
To
you
know,
each
of
our
meetings
then
going
forward
is
to
keep
us
informed
as
to
you
know
how
close
to
being
on
schedule
either
ahead
of
schedule
or
behind
schedule,
and
then
we
can
work
off
of
that.
That
original
so.
D
You
will
see
that
there
are
three
stages:
a
letter
is
sent
to
the
property
owner,
then
it
goes
under
construction
and
then
it's
completed
that
that
will
be
on
on
your
status
report
that
you
get
every
month.
So
if
you
see
a
letter
that's
been
sent
out,
then
those
people
have
been
contacted:
okay,
okay,
so
again
we're
just
starting
this
process.
So
you
know
we'll
get
better
with
our
documentation
and
stuff,
but
things
look
it'll
stay
the
same.
The
format
will
stay
the
same.
D
H
C
I
So
good
afternoon,
Kristen
Simeone
Finance
director
for
the
city,
we're
gonna
go
over
some
items
and
we
we
gave
a
couple
Alternatives,
but
those
aren't
obviously
alternatives
for
our
budget
could
have
multiple
things.
So
we'll
have
discussion
on
that.
When
we
talk
about
the
proposed
assessment
rates.
I
I
and
18
and
20.
We
have
these
special
project
assessment
rate.
That
was
the
the
dredging
project
I
believe
it
was
the
perimeter
dredging
for
fiscal
year
23
we
started
that
was
for
the
the
current
project.
That's
underway
or
hasn't
really
started
yet,
but,
except
for
the
design,
was
for
the
lock
removal,
Inlet
widening
project.
I
So
again,
we
have
alternative
one:
we're
proposing
to
keep
the
operating
assessment,
the
same
760
dollars
for
both
alternative
one
and
alternative
two,
and
for
the
project
assessment.
We
would
have
a
slight
increase
of
twenty
five
dollars
and
again,
this
is
for
the
lock
removal
and
again
we
can
talk
about
some
alternatives
again.
Everything's
pending
we
are
working
on
Hurricane,
Ian
repairs.
We
don't
have
our
mitigation
yet,
but
we
did
put
an
estimate
in
there
for
the
mitigation,
we'll
talk
about
the
annual
Seawall
replacement
program
and
special
projects.
C
On
this,
yes,
going
back
one
seat,
you've
shown
both
the
alternate
one
and
Alternate
two
at
the
same
price,
both
of
them.
Yes,.
I
C
C
I
I
So
again,
we're
proposing
that
the
operating
assessment
stay
at
760
for
fiscal
year,
24.
fiscal
year
25
to
28..
I
In
our
budget
we
showed
a
25
increase
per
year
for
the
operating
assessment
again
because
costs
continue
to
escalate.
You
know
labor
materials,
the
everything
that
is
involved
in
making
those
Seawall
panels,
as
well
as
the
companies
that
are
providing
the
installation.
I
The
special
projects
still
require
approval
before
funding
an
assessment
is
determined
and
we'll
go
over
those
for
the
federal
and
state
assistance.
The
percentage
is
95
percent
for
the
hurricane
Irma
rip
wrap
mitigation.
We
are,
we
did
finally
get
our
permit,
but
we
are
awaiting
approval
from
FEMA
to
move
that
project
forward.
I
One
thing
to
know
is
currently
in
our
budget
was
based
on
the
ID,
the
cost
of
that
project
that
was
approved
back
in
fiscal
year,
17.
right
so
costs
have
escalated.
Since
then,
we
don't
know
if
FEMA
will
increase
that
as
well
or
not.
So
we
may
have
some
costs
or
some
more
discussion
about
that
as
we
as
we
move
forward
on
that
and
go
out
to
bid
and
see
what
we
can
get
that
project
for.
I
I
So
for
fiscal
year
24
our
operating
department
is
generally
per
request,
except
for,
like
the
Personnel,
we
estimate
four
percent
merits
the
pension
is
a
10
percent
match
undefined
contribution
plan.
We
have
estimated
increases
for
health
insurance
of
10
percent,
which
is
a
little
bit
higher
than
we
normally
budget,
but
that
is
what
we're
currently
has
been
indicated
by
our
risk
manager
10
for
workers,
comp
insurance.
I
So
we
do
have
a
small
amount
of
Seawall
like
normal
sea
wall
replacement
for
fiscal
year,
24
we're
not
doing
too
much
in
fiscal
year
24
because
obviously
we'll
just
be
finishing
the
hurricane
Ian
project,
plus
you
might
have
your
lock
project
going
on
and
then
we'll
resume
the
annual
program
in
fiscal
year.
25.
I
Is
estimated
at
five
percent
and
that
does
get
updated
once
all
the
budgets
are
complete.
So
we
usually
don't
have
that
number
till
mid-july,
the
lock
removal
project
the
division
is
estimating
an
additional
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
needed
for
that
project.
And
that's
where
we'll
talk
about
the
two
alternatives
for
funding
that
and
the
debt
for
the
hurricane
Replacements,
we
would
assume
that
we
will
have
to.
We
will
have
to
borrow
funds
because
again
it's
such
a
short
time
frame
to
do
such
a
large
amount
of
sea
walls.
I
Council
did
approve
us
for
to
go
out
to
to
get
the
line
of
credit
that
we'll
get.
And
then
we
estimate
that,
as
FEMA
money
comes
in
in
the
next
year,
we'll
pay
that
debt
down.
I
Fiscal
year
25-28
again,
we
do
have
Inlet
dredging
at
28
000
per
year.
We
have
our
contracted
Seawall
assessment
and
that's
ten
thousand
dollars
every
other
year.
That's
to
actually
evaluate
the
walls,
not
an
assessment
rate
for
the
citizens,
and
then
you
have
your
estimated
increases
of
sea
walls
or
three
percent.
Our
standard
health
insurance
merits
workers,
comp
and
other
operating,
and
that's
what
we
typically
use
every
time
fiscal
year
23
does
have
the
rip
rep
mitigation
project
of
310
000
for
Hurricane
Irma.
I
I
Currently
we
have
funded
one
million
thirty
thousand,
and
we
did
that
through
using
interfund
loan
and
paying
that
back
over
time
and
we'll
talk
about
those
as
well.
And
then
you
have
the
land
acquisition
for
staging.
So
the
division
is
suggesting
that,
as
we
are
getting
to
build
out
that
you
might
need
a
piece
of
land
to
start
staging
for
Replacements
in
the
future
and
then
the
channel
coroner
winding
project
that
Gary
just
kind
of
went
over.
I
I
I
G
Is
there
some
way
have
you
identified
which
potential
Lots
or
lands
you
might
I
mean
yeah
to
secure
well.
G
D
I
I
I
There's
two
sections
to
this
pro
forma
you've
got
the
the
lock
removal
project
is
considered,
is
in
this
pro
forma
and
then
at
the
very
bottom.
The
two
projects
that
haven't
had
any
funding
yet
the
channel
Corner
widening
and
the
BSI
land
acquisition
for
staging.
You
see
below
the
line,
so
you
could
see
if
you
did
approve
those
projects.
What
would
it
do
to
those
reserves
and
like
what
you
would
need,
maybe
for
an
assessment
rate
to
cover
those
projects?
I
So
this
one
assumes
that
if
we
do
increase
the
special
project,
the
125
to
125
dollars
that
125
dollars
in
fiscal
year
24
would
be
used
towards
the
project
we
wouldn't
have
to
finance
that
amount.
We
would
have
the
hundred
hundred
dollar
assessment
from
fiscal
year,
23
plus
the
125.
That
would
come
off
the
funding
that
is
needed
as
an
interfund
loan.
So
you
wouldn't
have
interest
on
those
funds.
I
However,
you
do
have
an
increase
to
the
project
cost.
So
if
you
were
financing
the
additional
amount,
we
would
need
to
have
125
dollar
assessment
for
the
next
five
years,
so
that'd
be
25
through
actual
fiscal
year
29.
and
that's
keeping
your
Reserves
at
a
little
higher
level,
because
you
could
see
what
your
ending
reserves
are:
you're
at
a
million
point,
1.1
million
and
24
about
a
million
and
25
a
little
short
of
a
billion
and
26..
C
F
I
I
could
I
could
do
the
calculation
pretty
quick,
but
it's
16.7
percent,
which
is
about
two
months
of
operating,
is
the
general
rule.
However,
for
BSI,
especially
it's
a
smaller
fund,
we
recommend
a
little
bit
higher
because
and
I
can
go.
Let
me
do
my
calculator
just
to
do
that,
but
well
it'll,
be
about
like
say
we're
going
close
to
20
right,
a
million.
If
we
were
at
and
I,
don't
really
want
to
look
at
24,
because
we've
got
a
big.
We
got
that
debt
service.
I
We
would
subtract
out
that
debt
service
but
say
you're.
Looking
at
fiscal
year,
25
it's
about
a
million
dollars
of
operating
costs,
so
you're
talking
about
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
You
would
at
least
want
to
have
and
again
that
20
is
probably
a
little
low,
because
if
we
have
an
event
like
we
did
and
we
want
to
get
started
on
some
of
these
projects-
and
you
don't
have
that
enough
of
fun
balance
to
get
started,
then
we're
waiting
around
for
financing
so
I
think.
I
I
I
So
you
can
see
here
at
the
end
of
25.
You
know
at
the
end
of
24
you're
at
about
860
000
and
25
you're
at
700,
755
000
and
in
28
you're
back
out
to
450
000..
So
again,
if
you
use
your
reserves,
you
won't
have
to
finance
as
much.
We
can
go
back
to
the
ninety
dollars
through
28
and
be
done
with
the
inner
fund
loan
at
in
2028..
I
So
it
just
depends
more
financing
or
use
the
reserves
to
cover
that
difference,
and
then
again
you
still
have,
and
then
you
see
again
those
two
projects
that
we
have
to
talk
about,
what
it
would
do
to
the
reserves
at
that
point
and
what
you
would
need
for
a
assessment.
I
So
I
guess
the
first
question
would
be
the
lock
removal
project.
I
would
be
the
first
one
that
I
would
start
with
just
because
that
one
was
an
approved
project
and
and
where
you
would
like
to
go
with
that
project,
and
if
you
would
like
to
continue
with
that
as
an
approved
project.
C
Well,
you
know
my
opinion
on
that.
I
mean
I'll,
be
very
quick
to
say
that
I
believe
it's
necessary
and
I.
Think
we've
got
to
do
everything
we
can
to
to
stay
on
on
point
and
maintain
our
Direction
and
not
vary
from
that
another.
We
obviously
need
that
lock
widening
done
and
it's
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
I
would
like
to
us
to
continue
with
with
that
direction.
That's
my
opinion.
I
agree
as
well.
B
B
G
Yeah
I
know
I
agree.
I
I
is
the
42
foot.
Is
that
based
on
the
barge
size?
Is
that
why
42
foot
Channel
width
for
the
new
lot.
D
G
C
I'll
say
this:
it's
obviously
necessary
to
to
have
this
work
eventually
done.
I
think
Sean
brings
up
a
good
point.
Is
we
may
it
might
be
a
good
idea?
C
I
guess
Gary
would
be
the
one
to
to
help
put
a
little
more
definition
with
the
corner
widening.
There
is
some
concern
that
I'm
hearing
that
are
there
any
any
of
these
Corners
that
may
require
additional
funds
because
of
a
super
hard
knot
or
a
do.
We
have
to
look
at
alternate
pieces
of
of
equipment,
excavation
equipment
that
we
haven't
thought
about.
C
F
You
know
if
we're
looking
down
trust
and
we
say:
there's
60
homes
down
there
yeah
at
what
point
do
you
say
it's
it's
worthwhile
to
spend
a
million
dollars
to
to
address
60
homes
for
that
one
corner,
because
there
may
be
other
Alternatives
that
we
don't
like
it
might
be
more
expensive
because
it
involves
smaller
barges.
You
know
different
work
boats,
a
more
convoluted
way
of
going
at
it,
but
you
come
to
a
certain
point
in
time
where
you
say
boy
is:
is.
F
G
F
There's
a
lot
of
houses
up
there.
You
know
we
ought
to
address
that.
One
I
I
think
the
jury's
out
for
me
on
Trieste
and
still
out
for
me
on
going
much
Beyond
DeLuca
in
there
to
address
those
because
the
number
of
homes
back
there
represent
a
very
small
percentage
of
the
Thousand
homes
that
are
really
waterfront
homes.
That
would
have
to
pay
that
assessment.
So
you
know
how
much
money
are
you
going
to
pay
to
address
a
small
percentage
of
the
the
residents
within
there
and
then
the
second
question
I
have?
F
F
D
Said
don't
forget
that
it's
going
to
take
years
of
permitting
years
of
mitigation,
we're
going
to
have
to
buy
property
that
there's
going
to
be
a
process?
That's
going
to
take
several
years
to
accomplish,
and
yes
we're
not
very
confident
with
that
estimate
either,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
unknowns.
You
know
we
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
even
be
able
to
remove
any
of
that
rock
base
and
all
that
other
stuff,
so
yeah
that
price
tag
could
go
up,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
number.
D
F
Meet
your
own
step,
then,
if
I'm
listening
to
Kathy
would
be
to
to
set
aside
some
money
to
do
a
feasibility
study
on
it,
you
know
what
would
it
take?
Can
we
even
get
through
that?
Can
we
get
have
the
discussions
with
the
county
look
at?
Are
we
dealing
with
moral?
Are
we
dealing
with
granite,
or
you
know,
what
are
we
dealing
with
in
terms
of
the
rock
areas
that
we
have
to
go
through
and
how
much
is
that
cost
more
likely
to
be
than
what
we've
got
on
paper
here?
C
I
would
I
would
agree
with
Sean
o'net
in
that,
how
long
do
you
think
it
would
be
it's
going
to
take
for
you
to
come
back
with
a
I
guess,
a
proposal
of
what
it's
going
to
take
to
do
a
feasibility
study.
C
A
For
the
record
Gary
District
yeah,
we
have
done
something
similar
on
the
the
spoil
site
Channel
we
had
hired
our.
We
have
a
master
agreement
with
a
marine
engineer,
how's
Wilson
Associates.
We
pay
them
just
to
do
a
feasibility
study
to
then
establish.
You
know
the
permeability
of
it
and
all
of
those
items
right,
I'm,
sorry,
I
think
we
set
up
a
specific
authorization
to
the
master
agreement
and
authorize
them
to
go
in
and
do
that
without.
You
know
without
much
trouble,
but
that'll
take
time,
obviously
to
move
through.
C
A
C
A
I'm
not
sure
how
months
or
two
longer
than
that
right,
yeah
exactly
yeah
I,
don't
know
how
much
or
what
the
agencies
look
at
in
regard
to
the
Rock.
What
type
of
Rocket
is
things
of
that
nature
right
I
know,
seagrass
is
tough
to
mitigate
and
then
you've
got
mangroves.
We
know,
but
those
costs
are
kind
of
already
there
right,
but
for
rock
I,
just
I
just
don't
know
we
haven't
had
to
deal
with
that
before.
A
C
C
Of
removal,
I,
don't
really
know
what
that
would
be
right
now,
but
it
I
think
it's
time
to
start
asking
those
questions
and
starting
putting
some
framework
about
what
seems
to
be
the
most
reasonable
path
forward.
For
sure
you,
okay
with
that
Sean.
C
I'm
I'm
I'm.
Okay
with
that,
since
we
don't
have
a
better
figure
in
mind
at
this
point
in
time
you
got
to
start
someplace,
and
maybe
this
is.
A
I
So
so
here's
what
we
could
do
if
you,
if
we
don't
include
it
when
they
do
get
the
number,
we
would
go
to
council
and
ask
for
an
appropriation
of
some
of
the
reserves.
So
if
you
don't
obviously
put
it
in
the
budget,
it
would
be
in
your
Reserve
balance
and
then
we
would
just
ask
for
an
appropriation
once
we
have
the
number.
So
those
are
the
two
options
we
have.
G
F
I
honestly,
my
perspective
on
this,
yes,
is
that
we
ought
to
stick
a
number
in
there
and
we
ought
to
be
talking
about
it
with
the
residents
saying
look,
you
know
this
is
something
we
need
to
do
I'm
concerned.
If
we
just
kind
of
pull
it
out
of
the
reserves
and
right
we're
not
having
that
honest
discussion
with
individuals.
C
G
B
G
Talking
for
the
feasibility
study,
we're
talking
about
the
feasibility
to
study,
to
look
at
those
the
the
top,
the
top
problems
right,
the
five
or
six
is
the
worst
ones.
G
F
That
gets
to
my
angst
here,
because
I
just
think
we're
going
to
get
to
numbers
that
just
don't
make
sense,
yeah
and
we're
going
to
kill
the
whole
project
because
we're
going
to
end
up
with
a
number
so
big
that
nobody
has
the
appetite
to
take
it
on
my
preference-
and
this
is
personally
just
my
preference-
let's
attack
the
three
that
we
know
absolutely
have
to
be
addressed,
and
then,
if
we
wanted,
when
we
have
a
number
that
we're
comfortable
with
and
we
can
communicate
with
people,
perhaps
it
makes
sense
to
go
back
and
say
what
about
the
next
two?
F
You
know,
but
if
you
do
a
cost-benefit
analysis
on
those
I,
don't
know
where
that
comes
out.
You
know
again
because
we're
talking
a
really
small
number
of
homes
back
there
that
you're
addressing
to
do
this
right
and
I
I.
Don't
you
know?
What's
the
cost
to
get
a
a
12-foot
barge
in
there
versus
the
24
foot
barge?
You
know:
how
much
does
that
increase
the
cost
to
to
repair
these
sea
walls?
We
just
don't
have
informed
numbers
from
which
we
can
have
an
intelligent
discussion
right.