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Utility Advisory Board 02-28-2022
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Just
we
have
an
international
exhibit
that
comes
to
the
united
states
about
once
a
year
someplace
in
the
united
states.
It
was
in
dallas
last
year
next
year.
It's
here
this
year
we're
the
smallest
gardens
of
this
type
that
they've
ever
chosen
to
make
their
exhibit
and
do
their
sales
and
stuff.
Well,
that's
an
honor.
It's
a
remarkable
thing!
It's
been
in
the
newspapers.
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For
the
for
the
record,
steve
leonard
project
manager,
this
time
of
year,
we
get
heavy
peaks
to
for
duty,
irrigation
demands
and
it's
been
very
dry.
It's
probably
not
that
unusual
to
see
close
to
that
we're
also
sending
some
water
to
the
authority
we're
sending
in
excess
of
about
1.4
million
a
day
to
the
authority.
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E
You
know
on
my
block,
you
know
we
have
a
schedule
that
we're
supposed
to
follow
with
the
you're.
The
last
number
of
your
address.
I
I
don't
know
how
many
people
really
follow
that
you
know
it
sounds.
I
don't
know
what
day
that
was
that
you
had
that
big
peak,
whether
it
was
a
saturday
or
whatever,
but
it
you
know
there
are
certain
days
in
the
week.
People
just
seem
to
like
the
water.
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I
think
you
do
a
great
job
with
the
letter
I
mean.
I
know
you
have
it
in
your
billing
system.
I
had
the
same
kind
of
billing
system
where
it
breaks
a
certain
threshold
on
the
monthly
usage
in
bingo.
They
get
a
letter.
I've
had
some
of
my
neighbors
come
up
to
me
and
say:
oh
yeah,
I
got
a
letter.
Well,
why
are
you
watering
every
day,
some
of
them
just
it's
not
in
their
radar
they're,
just
not
water,
conscious
and
sometimes
the
clock
does
get
messed
up
and
so
forth.
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This
one
kind
of
looks
at
our
annual
original
annual
budget,
our
current
annual
budget,
so
for
amendments
and
things
like
that,
the
two
amendments
we've
done
this
year
so
far
were
for
the
purchase
order
rollover.
So
those
were
items
that
were
already
committed
and
they
were
carried
over
to
2022
just
because
the
services
or
the
equipment
hadn't
been
received
and
then
reappropriations.
So
there
was
a
small
amount
of
reappropriations
from
fiscal
year,
2021
that
were
approved
by
city
council
in
january.
K
So
this
one,
we
did
have
a
bit
of
a
spike
which
kind
of
goes
along
with
what
you
saw
utilities
in
their
presentation.
So
we
had
a
your
spike
in
revenue
in
january,
a
little
bit
more
than
we
expected.
Sometimes
that
will
be
offset
the
following
month,
just
depending
on
the
days
that
we
read
so
the
number
of
days
that
might
have
been
in
the
period
so
year-to-date
budget
was
expected
to
be
3.6
million
and
we're
almost
at
4
million
right
now.
Year-To-Date.
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Well,
I
I
receive
the
pay
request.
At
the
same
time
as
the
engineer,
I
will
usually
walk
with
the
contractor
and
confirm
what
he's
billing
for
each
month
and
then
the
engineer
has
his
cei
out
there.
Those
two
communicate
once
the
engineer
signs
it.
I
sign
it
for
approval,
then
I
send
it
up
to
finance.
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K
K
The
city
still
has
to
check
that.
That's
getting
done,
so
we
can't
just
rely
on
them
their
affidavit,
saying
yep.
We
did
it.
You
know
so
there's
a
lot
that
goes
into
it
then,
like
the
schedule
of
values,
procurement
will
go
over
every
line
in
the
schedule
of
values.
To
make
sure
everything
is
ticking
and
tying
I
mean
there's
there's
been
times,
we've
had
to
send
items
back
because
the
map
didn't
quite
work
or
anything
like
that.
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I
mean
for
a
community
the
size
of
punta
gorda
yeah.
The
league
of
cities
would
be
a
huge
resource
because
they're
spending
time
doing
it,
you
know
the
the
reality
is
that
with,
for
instance,
the
the
infrastructure
act,
the
american
recovery
act
that
started
out
with
three
very
clear
areas
where
you
could
spend
money,
water,
broadband
and
some
of
those,
and
then
they,
the
policy
statements
coming
out
from
treasury
and
from
the
office
of
management
budget
suddenly
mean
home.
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Water
means
storm
water
too,
not
just
you
know
water
and
sewer,
and
so
that's
that
direction
is
coming
so
fast.
It's
it's
generally
coming
straight
from
the
federal
government,
because
what's
happened
is
all
these
local
governments
are
all
you
know.
We
talk
about
inflation
if
everybody
suddenly
tries
to
go
out
and
buy
piping
at
the
same
time,
suddenly,
there's
no
availability
and
the
price
goes
up.
So
now
they
all
start
pressuring,
pressuring
federal
government
saying.
Can
we
use
this
on
something
else?
And
so
then
they
immediately
respond.
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The
second
thing
that
seemed
to
to
come
of
it
was
the
the
need
by
the
various
organizations
within
the
federal
government
to
start
wrapping
up
their
people
and
working
on
their
regulations
to
make
sure
that
everything
was
going
to
be
straightforward.
So
there
was
quite
a
delay,
I
think
my
recollection
was.
It
was
between
six
and
nine
months
before
many
of
those
shovel
ready
projects
actually
went
to
bed.
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The
money
was
just
deposited
into
the
local
government's
accounts,
half
of
it
now
and
then
half
of
it
was
18
months
out
and
you
have
to
spend
it,
but
what's
happened
is
while
everyone's
trying
to
make
their
decisions
on
how
to
spend
it.
They
keep
changing
the
rules
and-
and
now
now
they've
basically
said
where
they
had
previously
said.
You
couldn't
spend
money
on
things
that
you've
already
allocated
money
for
free
up
your
budget
on
personnel.
Now
they're
saying
you
can
do
that
if
it,
if
it
makes
things
go
further,
you
can
do
it.
K
Yeah
so
some
of
the
new
things
that
they
added
to
was
like
for
retaining
employees
and
stuff,
so
some
of
that
might
get
used
for
that,
our
our
funding,
but
we're
still
looking
there's
other
pots
of
money
that
are
still
going,
not
just
what
got
deposited
to
the
city
that
we're
still
looking
at
now.
The
big
thing
with
projects
now
they're
also
starting
to
change
the
federal
guidelines
because
of
the
arpa
funds.
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I
Also
so
this
is
basically
an
update
of
what
we
discussed
last
month.
Our
first
project
here
is
our
henry
street
force
main
improvement,
so
the
improvement
will
go
from
bass,
inlet
on
the
left
side
here
over
to
the
mpf
building,
which
is
at
900
henry
street,
we'll
be
replacing
a
14
inch,
ductile
iron
pipe
with
14
inch.
Pvc
we'll
also
be
rebuilding
gravity
sewer
in
henry
street
near
900.
The
mpf
facility.
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Okay,
it
is
done
well,
almost
done.
We've
got
the
coding
done
and
there'll
be
some.
You
know
finalizing
of
documents
and
so
forth,
but
it's
very
near
done
successful
project
we
started
it.
You
know
approximately
in
april,
involve
coating,
both
tanks
and
you
have
to
do
one
at
a
time
so
take
the
tank
out
of
service.
They
go
in
and
sandblast
it
replace
the
coating
and
then
we
go
and
do
the
second
tank.
So
great
news.
This
project
is
very
near
complete
master
facility,
same
facility
900
henry
street.
I
We
have
a
program
to
replace
the
three
high
service
pumps
in
there
and
right
now
we're
at
the
stage
of
selecting
the
engineer,
we've
written
the
scope
and
delivered
it
to
procurement
and
they'll,
be
advertising
for
engineering
services,
so
we're
replacing
the
three
pumps.
We
have
three
pumps
in
there.
We're
installed
approximately
21
years
ago
and
we'd
like
to
replace
those
with
newer
units.
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I
We
we
have
100
plans
now,
so
we're
we're
good
on
that
team
green.
We
have
100
plans
on
that.
It's
already
been
bid.
I
haven't
heard
of
a
final
closing
or
a
low
bid
yet,
but
it's
going
to
be
awarded
soon.
This
project
will
just
be
filling
in
a
few
streets
in
the
teen
green
community
that
have
no
water
line.
We
wanted
to
build
out
through
a
couple
missing
streets.
There's
some
additional
water
fee
pipes,
pretty
small
project
relative
to
what
we
normally
take
on
this
project.
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I
I
Here
looks
like
we
awarded
the
engineering
on
december
7th,
so
it's
moving
forward
electrical
repair.
We
did
have
a
well
that
went
out
of
service.
Recently.
Unexpectedly,
we
had
a
contractor
selected
and
they've
replaced
those
electrical
conductors
that
part's
done.
I
think
we're
still
waiting
on
one
diamond
plate
cover,
so
that
project
is
done
on
schedule
and
pretty
much
where
we
thought
it
would
come
in.
I
So
our
construction
manager
will
take
on
a
big
role
in
this
project
by
coordinating
all
the
work
and
the
subs
and
delivering
the
project
to
us,
and
the
value
of
that
is
they
usually
give
us
what's
called
the
guaranteed
maximum
price.
So
we
have
a
pretty
good,
confident
number
that
we
can
stay
within
when
we
have
that
project
completed.
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I
So
design
build,
the
engineer
would
be
teamed
yes
and
we
would
select
that
team
all
at
one
step
sure.
So
this
we
are
on
wastewater,
pretty
much
on
schedule.
Once
we
have
the
cmar
going
we'll
be
back
to
full
speed,
we
did
wells.
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
pretty
much.
We
are,
I
don't
know
if
I
rolled
forward,
but
of
course
you
all
know
what
the
figure
looks
like.
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So,
as
you
guys
know,
you're
a
seven
member
board,
that's
currently
composed
of
city
residents.
We
have
included
language
that
would
allow
for
customers
to
potentially
be
on
the
board
as
well
there's
an
overview
of
things.
You
guys
provide
recommendations
on
mainly
what
we've
done
is
reorganize
information.
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We
have
added
the
language
for
the
utilities
service
area
customers.
We
added
a
new
duty
b,
which
is
the
utility
rate
studies
and
any
proposed
utility
rate
changes.
We
added
that
you
guys
provide
recommendations
on
those
as
well,
and
then
we
added
the
budget
to
dc
showing
that
you
guys
provide
recommendations
on
those
each
year
and
we
removed
duty
h
because
it
was
identified
as
being
redundant
at
the
previous
meeting
where
we
discussed
bylaws.
F
So
we
had
also
fleshed
out
the
meeting
procedure
in
alignment
with
the
board
member
handbook
and
we've
revised
the
language
regarding
continuances
for
items
to
align
more
with
the
quasi-judicial
proceedings
procedures,
language
for
continuances
and
we've
also
considering
we
won't
be
in
this
building
past
july
of
this
year.
We've
added
language
in
the
scheduling
section
to
say
that
our
meetings
are
held
here
unless
noticed.
Otherwise
that
way,
when
we
need
to
move
over
to
our
alternate
location,
we'll
be
able
to
do
that
without
any
trouble.
F
So
what
we're
looking
for
today
is
recommendation
to
city
council
regarding
these
additional
changes.
Then
we
will
be
moving
forward
and
presenting
that
to
council,
and
if
they
have
any
other
changes,
we
may
end
up
bringing
those
back
to
the
board
for
additional
input.
If
they
are
in
agreement
with
everything
that's
been
presented,
though,
we
will
prepare
a
resolution
to
adopt
the
amendments.
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All
right,
my
name
is
michael
putnam,
I'm
the
gis
coordinator
for
the
utilities
department.
I've
been
here
for
almost
three
years
next
month
will
be
three
years
before
that
I
was
a
gis
guy
down
in
collier
county
for
several
years
before
that
I
was
a
geo
spatial
analyst
for
the
air
force
for
several
years.
Before
that
I
came
here,
I
had
an
interview
with
steve
adams
about
three
years
ago
and
they
did
not
have
gis
here.
L
They
did,
but
they
didn't
it
existed,
but
there
wasn't
anybody
that
was
proficient
or
overly
proficient
in
the
things
that
you
might
want
to
use
it
for
so
down
in
collier
county.
We
are
big
proponents
of
enterprise
asset
management,
which
is
all-encompassing
program
for
utility
departments,
where,
when
somebody
does
a
work
order
in
the
field
to
fix
a
water
main,
I'm
notified
building's
notified.
Everybody
knows
what's
going
on
all
the
time.
L
Every
assets
identified
every
asset
has
a
cost:
it's
basically
a
powerful
tool
for
decision
makers
to
make
better
decisions
for
the
people
who
are
paying
to
keep
the
lights
on
around
here.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
will
tell
you
what
I've
been
doing
for
the
last
year.
The
date
is
january
12th.
I
do
one
of
these
every
year,
whether
I
presented
or
not
last
year,
obviously
probably
wasn't
an
option,
but
whether
I
present
them
or
not,
they're
always
prepared,
so
they
invited
me
to
come
this
week.
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L
One
of
my
goals
is
to
learn
to
deliver
that
gis
data
to
those
folks
who
are
working
in
the
field.
So
while
we
do
like
to
use
record
drawings
and
construction
plans
as
our
main
source
of
information,
it
can
be
difficult
at
times
for
the
for
the
folks
that
are
working
in
the
field,
to
stop
what
they're
doing
and
go
back
to
the
shop
and
grab
some
of
our
plants,
and
some
of
them
are
so
old.
You
probably
don't
want
them
leaving
the
office
there.
L
There
are
some
ancient
plants
back
in
there
dating
back
to
when
the
city
first
started
utility
work
and
documenting
this
stuff.
So
my
goal
is
to
take
that
information
and
provide
it
to
the
folks
in
the
field,
whether
using
a
laptop,
a
smartphone
or
a
tablet
and
even
people
in
their
office.
I
know
these
guys
use
a
program
in
the
office
to
send
maps
to
people
with
utility
information
when
we
receive
inquiries
on
what
side
of
the
lot
your
water
heater
is,
or
your
sewer
service,
etc.
So.
L
L
L
As
long
as
it's
in
there,
we
can
pull
the
data
out
so
right
now
we're
working
on
that
with
brian
some
of
the
advantages
of
asset
inventory.
As
you
can
see
there,
you'll
have
access
to
real-time
data.
You
can
make
better
informed
decisions.
You
can
improve
your
collaboration.
Last
week
I
was
out
on
mackenzie
street
with
the
folks
from
public
works,
they're,
looking
for
and
and
from
the
the
railroad,
the
folks
from
the
railroad.
Are
there
too,
because
they're
replacing
a
storm
drain
underneath
the
railroad
on
mackenzie?
L
We
have
a
force
main
and
a
water
main
on
both
sides
too.
So
the
calip,
the
collaboration
with
the
public
works
department,
has
been
very
good
since
we
started
this
because
they're
into
this
too.
So
we
work
with
the
storm
water
folks
and
they
know
where
our
sewer
is
and
we'll
know
where
their
storm
water
is.
L
You
can
use
this
to
identify
and
evaluate
risk
and
also
to
better
mobilize
your
workforce
so,
instead
of
like
I
said
before,
instead
of
your
workers
coming
back
to
the
shop
every
time
when
they
need
some
see
something,
they
can
pull
it
up
and
get
a
a
good
understanding
of
where
it
is,
if
they
want
to
be
accurate,
always
go
with
the
prints
in
a
scale.
But
gis
is
good
to
get
you
in
the
ballpark.
A
L
So
when
I
first
started
working
here,
you
can
see
on
this
graph
on
the
left.
That's
april,
2019,
that's
the
data
that
was
in
our
database,
and
this
is
just
for
water,
mains,
gravity,
mains
and
force
mains.
So,
as
time
has
progressed,
we've
gone
out
and
we've
added
and
you
can
see
within
about
eight
months
december
2019.
L
I
really
peaked
with
adding
stuff
in
the
system.
This
is
the
easy
stuff
to
put
in
your
system
is
the
lines
so
you
can
see.
There
hasn't
been
much
of
a
change
since
then
we're
adding
and
deleting
constantly
something
that
wasn't
there,
something
that
was
there
stuff
that
is
no
longer
in
the
ground
we
make
it
show
up
with
a
different
status.
It's
no
longer
active,
it's
out
of
service
or
it's
abandoned,
but
we
keep
track
of
that
stuff
anyways
for
the
future.
L
L
This
chart
is
going
to
look
a
little
more
confusing.
The
one
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
the
red,
the
red
line
that
goes
down.
That's
that's
errors.
So,
when
you're
building
a
system
in
gis,
you
start
out
with
a
ton
of
errors
because
there's
rules
so
as
we've
gone
down
as
time
has
progressed
since
april.
Until
now,
we've
really
eliminated
our
errors,
and
now
it's
like
a
pretty
stagnant
like
eliminating
some
of
the
errors
that
exist
in
the
database.
L
The
sewer
gravity
system
didn't
have
tap
locations
and
stuff
like
that,
and
now
we've
had
studies
in
the
past
where,
when
the
guys
use
the
tv
camera,
when
I
put
a
tap
on
a
sewer
main,
I
look
at
the
tv
sheets
and
I
say
all
right
from
this
manhole
to
that
manhole.
It's
this
many
feet,
then
there's
another
tap
and
you
know
it'll
tell
you
whether
it's
a
surface
to
the
left
or
service
to
the
right
or
whatever
direction
it
is
so.
L
This
is
just
a
quick
sneak
peek
at
the
sewer
stuff,
and
we
do
the
same
thing
for
water,
you'll
notice,
the
red
line.
Again
it
starts
off
pretty
high
and
then
it
starts
to
go
down
and
you
can
see
one
of
the
big
additions
in
this
is
fittings,
so
water
taps
they
didn't
have
many
of
that
information
in
the
database
prior
and
since,
in
the
last
couple
years,
we've
added
quite
almost
12
000
tabs
a
lot
of
service
lines
weren't
in
there.
So
we've
added
a
lot
of
service
lines
and
then
meters
as
well.
L
The
meter
system
was
kind
of
questionable
when
I
first
got
here
they
had
about
7
000
meters
in
the
database.
Maybe
I
forget
how
many
total,
but
we're
up
to
12
000
and
some
change,
and
as
of
last
month,
there
was
like
13,
800
and
something
water
meters
that
billing
sent
to
me
a
lot
of
the
reports
and
the
maps
that
you
guys
see
previously.
I
do
a
lot
of
those,
so
it
works
well
with
my
information,
so
I
can
know
where
I'm
at
so.
I
know
if
I
have
12
400
meters
in
gis.
L
L
One
of
the
big
one
of
the
big
jobs
that
I
decided
from
day,
one
is
I'm
just
gonna-
have
to
probably
go
out
and
collect
most
of
the
data
by
hand.
So
one
of
the
first
things
we
did
is
we
ordered
that
little
tool
on
the
right
there.
That's
a
trimble,
ttc
150
and
that's
a
gps
device
with
kind
of
a
smartphone
built
on
the
front
of
it,
and
it's
got
three
centimeter
accuracy
so
and
that's
vertical
and
horizontal.
So
anything
we
need
for
accuracy.
L
We
can
pretty
much
get
for
that
out
of
it
and
we're
not
survey
grade.
So
we're
not
that
worried
about
survey
grade
measurements
and
stuff
like
that.
So
the
one
on
the
left
is
a
trimble,
r2,
that's
centimeter
accuracy
and
we
have
one
of
those
and
we'll
use
those
for
when
we're
collecting
one
a
few
things
at
a
time.
The
one
on
the
right
is
very
good
for
stopping
and
going
and
stopping
and
going
it's
very
quick.
It's
lightweight!
It's
very
efficient
if
you're
on
foot
so.
L
I
keep
track
of
in
a
dashboard
and
you
probably
see
there's
a
lot
of
with
kova,
especially
the
company
that
we
use
to
to
track.
Our
data
is
called
esri.
The
environmental
sciences,
research
institute,
everybody
uses
this
across
the
world.
This
is
a
world
standard,
so
for
us
we're
just
doing
what
everybody
else
does
the
wheel's
already
been
made,
we're
just
rolling
on
it,
so
everything
I
collect
in
the
field
I
put
in
a
dashboard?
L
So
I
have
a
fancy
map
here.
All
the
green
and
yellow
stuff
is
stuff
that
I've
gone
out
and
collected
on
foot
with
that
little
gps
device.
So
you
can
tell
now
this
is
just
sewer.
Obviously
I
hammered
pgi
because
pgi
is
pretty
easy.
It's
uniform
it's
up
and
down
to
call
the
second
back.
It's
quick!
It's
efficient,
bergstorm
metal,
it
was
burnt,
store
aisles
and
when
you're
out
collecting
the
data,
sorry
about
the
mouse,
for
example.
L
I
know
you,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
save
your
world,
but
this
is
a
manhole.
I
can
tell
that.
I
collected
this
manhole
on
march
30th
2021.
I
don't
put
too
much
data
in
there
when
I
collect
it
because
it
just
takes
too
much
time.
I
can
you
know
if
you
want
to
collect
150
200
assets
a
day.
You
only
want
to
put
a
couple
things
in
there
time
stamp
it
and
tell
who
owns
the
data.
L
L
The
good
thing
about
this
is
the
water
meters
sewer's
pretty
easy
to
draw
from
manhole
to
manhole.
You
know
where
the
gravity
main
is
it's
there's
not.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
bends
in
our
gravity
system.
I
hope
not
anybody's
supposed
to
so
yeah.
Absolutely
so
one
of
the
good
things
about
this
is,
I
can
walk
through
pgi
now
you
can
see.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
read
this
little
graph
right
here.
This
little
chart
7.9
k
meters
out
of
the
13
and
some
change.
L
So
there's
like
a
little
gauge
here
that
says:
hey
how
much
do
you
have
to
go
before
you're
done
collecting,
so
we've
collected
8,
000
meters
on
foot,
and
this
is
just
a
quick
breakdown
of
where
all
that
stuff
is,
of
course
pgi
again
for
water.
I
did
the
same
thing.
I
collect
them
all
at
the
same
time,
if
I'm
collecting
water,
I'm
collecting
sewer.
L
So
you
can
see,
there's
a
trend
here
where
I've
collected
everything
and
it
ranges
anything
from
flushing
stations
to
meters
to
hydrants,
especially
because
again
this
data
was
there
before,
but
it
wasn't
accurate,
the
guy
who
was
doing
the
gis
stuff
before
me.
He
didn't
go
out
and
collect
it
by
hand,
he
kind
of
drew
it
and
he
did
a
wonderful
job.
I
don't
take
anything
away
from
him,
but
we
want
to
be
pretty
accurate
with
some
of
our
stuff,
probably
all
of
our
stuff.
L
L
Just
another
graph
of
what's
been
collected,
so
you
can
see
I
started,
we
got
our.
We
got
our
the
trimble
device
towards
the
end
of
2019
and
you
can
see
on
the
far
left.
That's
really
when
I
started
collecting
and
as
time
has
progressed,
obviously
to
the
end
of
2021.
We've
collected
quite
a
bit
of
stuff.
This
is
just
for
sewer.
L
The
main
collection,
obviously
for
sewer,
is
going
to
be
cleanouts
and
manholes.
You
can
see
they
consume
most
of
the
graph.
It's
hard
to
find
fittings
and
stuff
like
that.
Maybe
on
force
mains,
we'll
collect
some
fittings.
So
there's
not
many
of
those
water.
The
bulk
of
the
water
collection
has
been
water
meters.
L
Fortunately,
for
us
almost
every
lot,
especially
in
pgi
bsi
and
all
those
places
they
all
have
a
water
meter.
If
there's
a
house
on
it
and
some
of
even
the
empty
ones,
I'll
even
collect
the
meter
boxes
and
we
just
annotate
that
it's
a
meter
box,
we
don't
call
it
a
small
potable
meter
or
large
potable
any
questions
about
collection.
L
Resource
esri
environmental
sciences,
research
institute
arcgis
on
this
slide,
you
can
see
so
arcgis.
Is
this
company
started
back
in
the
late
60s,
so
they've
been
around
for
a
long
time
and
as
time
progresses
they
become
more
efficient
and
making
gis
easy
for
people
to
use
in
the
field
instead
of
just
a
computer-based
thing
that
you
do
in
your
office,
so
the
next
best
program
we
use
for
the
folks
in
the
field.
It's
called
survey123
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
done.
An
online
survey
like
you've
heard
of
surveymonkey
or
anything
like
that.
L
L
And
put
it
er,
add
the
science
of
wear
to
it,
so
you
can
put
a
spot
where
you're
at
now.
This
will
integrate
with
those
gps
devices
that
we
use,
but
so
far
we
haven't.
We
haven't
had
a
need
for
that.
So
it's
for
you
create
a
form.
I
create
a
form.
I
sit
down
with
the
people
who
are
using
the
surveys,
and
I
say
hey:
how
do
you
want
this?
What's
user
friendly
for
you?
L
What's
the
easiest
way
for
you
to
do
this,
so
we've
done
it
with
manholes
valves,
fire,
hydrants
and
then
lift
stations.
So
I
sit
down
with
each
individual.
That's
going
to
use
it
and
I
say:
hey,
let's
design
this
to
where
it's
user
friendly
for
you,
so
you
don't
have
to
call
and
be
confused
all
the
time
about
how
this
program
works,
so
they're,
pretty
pretty
pretty
easy
to
use,
they're
form
based
and
it's
all,
fill
in,
fill
in
a
box
or
check
a
checking
option
and
then
put
your
location
on
there.
L
So
we've
gotten
rid
of
all
of
our
pen
and
paper
inspections.
There's
still
some
left,
but
I
noticed
when
I
first
got
here
everyone's
coming
up
to
the
front
office
to
get
a
piece
of
paper
to
get
a
form
and
I'm
like.
Why
are
we
doing
this?
Because
what
do
you
do
with
the
form
afterward
you
put
in
a
filing
cabinet?
Well,
do
you
want
to
go
through
the
filing
cabinet
at
the
end
of
every
fiscal
or
calendar
year
and
hand,
write
all
the
data
from
that
stuff
out?
L
All
this
stuff
is
aggregated
in
a
database
somewhere
where
I
can
just
open
it
up
and
say:
hey
this
many
inspections
were
done
and
I'll
show
you
some
of
the
data
here
in
a
minute
on
on
how
it
does
a
lot
of
the
work
for
you.
So
now
most
of
our
inspections
are
in
one
central
database
and
they're
quick
and
easy
to
query
data
out
of
whenever
anybody
needs
them.
It's
not
a
long,
drawn-out
process.
L
L
So
when
the
hydrant
guy
is
out
in
the
field
doing
his
collections
or
inspections
on
hydrants,
he
pulls
up
on
a
tablet.
He
has
a
samsung
tablet
and
he
just
types
in
this
information.
So
this
is
exactly
what
it
looks
like
when
he's
on
the
field.
He
does
a
hydrant
inspection,
he
documents
the
date
and
the
time
he
puts
a
hydrant
number.
Every
hydrant
has
a
year
manufactured
tag
on
it.
Most
of
them
do
anyways
and
if
they
don't
he'll
find
out
and
he'll
add
a
tag
to
it.
Hydrant
manufacturer
see
it's
all
drop
downs.
L
L
What
is
all
the
work
that
you
do
and
all
these
options
are
here
for
him,
so
he
can
just
check
whatever
options
he
wants
and
then
he
gives
us
a
condition
because
it's
good
to
know
the
condition
of
every
asset
that
you
have.
You
want
to
know
the
condition
of
it
so
on
this
street.
If
the
hydrant
is
bad,
we
want
to
know
so
we
can
start
making
decisions
to
say,
hey,
we
need
to
start
replacing
this
hydrant
or,
if
there's
a
clump
of
a
mini
area.
L
L
And
there's
the
science
of
where
so
for
the
two
years
that
he
ran
this
program,
here's
all
the
hydrants
that
were
inspected
now.
This
isn't
that
important,
but
you
can
click
on
every
single
hydrant
and
it's
going
to
tell
you
everything
that
he
did
to
it
and
then,
if
there's
any
pictures,
there
will
be
a
picture
attached
to
it.
So
it's
pretty
it's
pretty
user
friendly!
L
B
L
Everything
and
some
of
this
stuff
isn't
important,
but
so
so
here's
a
good
graph.
We
know
and
don't
mind
the
commas
if
you
get
to
a
fourth
value
in
here.
For
some
reason
they
come
out
delineate
stuff.
So
if
you
can
see
on
the
right
that
one
bar
it's
1656
to
2020,
we
know
all
of
our
hydrogens
were
manufactured
in
that
time
frame,
which
is,
I
don't
know
why
it
says
1656
but
well,.
L
L
I
don't
know
if
there
was
an
accidental
1656
put
in
there,
but
we
can
also
tell
you
all
the
manufacturers,
that's
why
this
information
is
in
those
drop
downs,
so
I
can
tell
you
that
most
of
our
hydrants
are
made
by
the
cloud
corporation
and
then
follow
close
second
by
mueller
and
then
american
darling.
All
this
is
good,
analytic
information.
Maybe
here
it's
not
that
important,
but
for
decision
makers,
all
the
hydrant
sizes
in
this
pie
chart.
We
know
that
most
of
our
hydrants
are
five
and
a
quarter
inch.
L
So
I
took
all
the
data
from
the
hydrant
program
for
the
two
years
to
see.
Hey
is
this
worth
to
continue
doing
this
way,
and
I
think
it
is
so
over
the
course
of
202
years.
It
was
just
under
two
years
and
if
you
look
at
it
it's
about
475
working
days,
167
individual
inspections
were
conducted
of
those
1167.
L
654
of
them
were
single
hydrants,
meaning
some
hydrants
were
inspected
more
than
once,
which
will
happen,
because
if
someone
complains
and
says
they
have
a
hydrogen
issue,
obviously
the
hydrant
guy
is
going
back
out
there
and
some
people
have
the
propensity
to
call
in
consistently
say
hey
the
hydrants
leak
in
or
we
notice,
something's
wrong.
You
know
what
I
mean.
L
So
if
you
break
the
numbers
down,
it'll
tell
you
that
they
conducted
approximately
2.46
hydrogen
inspections
per
day
during
our
little
two-year
window,
and
then,
if
you
look
even
closer,
if
you
want
to
break
it
down
per
hydrant,
they
did
1.3
hydrants
per
day
during
that
time.
So
it
gives
you
a
good
detailed
look
about
what's
going
on.
L
Usually
we
get
an
answer
back
to
amaze
app,
so
it's
good
information
to
have
and
then,
when
the
director
comes
in
and
says,
hey,
what's
the
status
of
this,
we
can
give
them
a
quick
status
report
without
fumbling
through
the
papers
and
crunching.
The
numbers
like
that,
the
old
school
way
any
questions
on
survey123.
L
L
I
worked
really
close
with
gary
during
that
he
said
where
to
fly,
and
I
flew
there.
So
it
was
pretty
simple
for
me.
Gary
said:
go
here,
go
there,
go
there
do
this,
so
it's
pretty
easy
and
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
city's
youtube
page.
The
bulk
of
youtube
views
on
the
city's
youtube
page
are
for
those
drone.
Videos
like
people
were
very
interested
in
what
was
going
on
there,
so
that
was
fun.
Some
of
the
advantages
is
real-time
construction
updates.
L
You
know,
what's
going
on
all
the
time,
I
know
that's
one
of
the
big
selling
factors
to
some
of
the
companies
too.
Hey.
We
want
imagery.
Every
week
we
want
a
week
by
week
update
now
we
can
perform
that
in-house.
We
can
get
quality,
aerial,
imagery,
cost
saving.
We
don't
have
to
pay
the
contractor
to
do
it
now
and
then,
after
hurricane
irma
came
through
down
in
collier
county
made
a
drone
program.
This
was
invaluable
for
inspecting
the
roofs
of
our
facilities.
L
Instead
of
worrying
about
contracting
it
out,
they
said:
go
to
this
building,
take
a
video,
bring
the
videos
back,
give
it
to
the
whoever
we
gave
it
to.
I
don't
remember
who
we
gave
it
to
so.
We
inspected
hundreds
of
buildings
on
the
roof,
just
to
make
sure
all
of
our
roofs
were
good
and
it
gave
you
a
hey.
This
roof
looks
bad.
Let's
send
a
contractor
out
to
have
a
look
at
it.
We
knew
ahead
of
time.
We
were
able
to
be
proactive
instead
of
reactive.
L
Our
next
big
achievement
for
the
for
the
engineering
department
as
a
whole
is
we
procured
some
ground
penetrating
radar
devices.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
those
so
ground,
penetrating
radar
is
a
device
that
will
tell
you
what
is
underground.
It
is
ground,
penetrating
radar
as
the
name
states.
Now
I'm
not
a
subject
matter
expert
when
it
comes
to
gpr
and
steve,
and
I
we
received
a
gpr.
It
was
about
a
year
ago
and
of
course
we
bought
it
and
we
we
demoed
some
and
we
got
the.
We
got
the
basic.
L
You
know
how
to
work.
It
thing,
but
none
of
us
are
locators.
None
of
us
are
gpr
people,
but
within
five
minutes
we
were
able
to
take
the
gpr
out
of
the
box,
turn
it
on
and
we're
out
in
the
park
we're
walking
around
in
the
parking
lot
and
it
looks
like
a
lawnmower.
Just
like
you
see
here
and
people
are
driving
by
like
what
are
these
guys
doing
so
so
we're
looking
for
pipes
underground
just
to
demo
it.
So
we
can
understand
it,
so
we
can
give
it
to
the
guys
in
the
field.
L
So
if
you
look
at
this
picture
here,
you
can
see
the
yellow
arrows,
they're
kind
of
pointing
to
like
some
parabolic
shapes
there.
Those
would
be
pipes
underground
picked
up
by
gpr,
so
you
turn
it
on
and
you
push
and
as
you
go
and
you
go
over
pipes
in
a
perfect
world,
they
show
up
like
those
parabolic
shapes
there.
Now
it's
not
always
perfect.
It
doesn't
work
every
time
and
there's
times
when
I
go
out
and
I
don't
find
something
and
the
guys
are
like.
L
Oh
this
thing's
terrible,
it
doesn't
work,
but
it's
like
it
didn't
work
this
time,
but
maybe
next
time,
it'll
work.
So
one
of
one
of
the
some
of
the
applications
of
it
military
uses
it
archaeologists
use
this
burial
sites,
believe
it
or
not.
When
they're,
when
they're
moving
cemeteries,
they
will
use
gpr
to
go
pick
up
the
for
the
graves
existed
before
and
then,
of
course,
our
main
concern
is
locating
underground
utilities.
L
Some
of
the
benefits.
Last
week,
here's
mackenzie
street,
where
they're
going
to
do
the
work
on
the
storm
drain.
If
you
look
at
the
picture
on
the
right,
you'll
see
this
line
right
here.
This
is
a,
I
think.
It's
a
12
inch
force
main
currently
it's
out
of
service,
but
it's
still
there,
our
our
sewer,
one
of
our
project
managers
came
in
and
says
I
don't
think
it's
there.
So
I'm
like
all
right.
L
Let's
take
the
gpr
out
and
find
out
and
public
works
called
and
says:
hey
we
have
public
works,
actually
has
a
storm
pipe
right
here,
where
the
force
main
is
so
they're
like
hey.
We
want
to
know
where
it
is
before.
We
start
digging
and
replace
the
storm
pipe,
because
we
don't
hit
your
force
main,
so
we
went
out
with
the
gpr
and
it
turns
out
the
force
main
is
actually
back
here
closer
to
this
parcel
line.
It's
about
eight
feet
away
from
where
I
had
it
drawn
in
a
gis.
L
So
my
gis
stuff
was
wrong.
We
went
out
and
did
a
quick.
It
took
us
five
minutes
to
find
it.
You
turn
it
on
you
spin
it
up,
and
you
know
where
it
is
just
like
that
without
digging,
nobody
has
to
go
out
and
dig
nothing,
no
shovels,
no
backhoes
and
no
pipe.
What
do
they
call
that
where
they
use
the
truck
yeah?
No
suing.
None
of
that
now
we
did
do
a
soft
utility
locate
afterwards
to
verify
that
it
was
there
and
sure
enough.
L
It
was
where
we
marked
it
where
the
gpr
found
it
was
right
on
top
of
that
force
main
and
then,
of
course,
across
the
street
on
the
north
side
of
the
street,
there
there's
a
water
main
that
was
actually
drawn,
pretty
close
to
where
we
gpr'd
it
after
we
gpr'd
it,
we
decided
to
put
some
locator
balls
on
it.
So
locator
balls,
are
you
guys,
familiar
locator
balls?
L
You
can
program
these
balls
and
you
put
them
in
the
ground
and
you
can
say,
there's
a
12-inch
main
here
at
whatever.
If
you
want
to
put
the
depth
on
there,
it's
up
to
you
it's
programmable.
You
can
put
the
data
in
there
and
then
you
come
with
this
little
wand
tool
on
the
left
and
you
can
spin
it
up
and
if
it
picks
up
a
ball,
it'll
tell
you
what
it
is.
L
So
locator
balls
increase
utility
locate
accuracy,
they
decrease
time
spent,
locating
utilities
there's
times
there's
times
where
we
spend
a
lot
of
time,
trying
to
find
stuff
underground
and
sometimes
locator
balls,
given
where
they're
put
where
they're
placed
underground
are
very
advantageous
for
us
afterwards.
So
we
don't
have
to
go
back
through
and
say,
wait
a
minute.
L
Yes,
sir,
how
big
are
they
sides
of
softball,
maybe
no
bigger
than
a
softball?
They
also
have
locator
rings.
I
didn't
put
the
locator
rings
in
here.
Locator
rings.
We
use
those
too,
but
they're
they're
volatile,
like
if
they're
not
perfectly
flat,
they
don't
read
very
well.
They
need
to
be
almost
flat
on
top
of
something.
So
if
they
get
tilted
or
turn
at
all,
sometimes
you
lose
the
ability
to
pick
them
up.
Is
this.
C
L
L
One
of
the
things
that
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
start
donna
carter
county.
We
kept
track
of
all
the
locator
balls
gis.
So
when
we
published
sewer
and
water
data
to
the
folks
in
the
field,
they
would
also
know
where
all
the
locator
balls
are,
and
everybody
had
one
of
those
yellow
wands.
So
when
they
went
out,
they
would
say,
hey.
I
know,
there's
a
locator
ball
in
this
water
main
every
500
feet
on
water
main
in
force
main.
C
L
C
L
E
L
Same
at
least
it's
in
the
same
vicinity
and
and
to
piggyback
on
that
we
pick
up
power
in
communications
as
well,
so
they
can
pick
up
ours
too.
So,
if
you
see
the
us,
I
see
trucks
driving
around
they'll
pick
up
these
locator
balls
and
they'll,
say:
oh
yeah,
here's
the
water
main,
oh
yeah,
here's
the
force,
mate
or
a
bend
or
whatever
the
fitting.
Whatever
the
ball
is
sitting
on
top
of
whatever
it's
programmed.
L
Just
program
it
as
a
y
or
a
t
or
whatever
do
you
leave
a
ball
there
or
in
a
perfect
world?
Yes,
so
in
a
perfect
world,
yes,
that
that's
the
ideal
place
to
leave
fittings.
Is
that
any
sort
of
change
in
direction
because
the
pipe
is
stopping
and
it's
going
a
different
direction.
So,
in
an
ideal
world,
every
fitting
we
have
tees
wise
tabs,
whatever
it
may
be,
the
preference
would
be
to
drop
a
locator
ball
or
ring
on
it
right.
There.
G
J
L
Yes,
sir,
and
when
and
when
all
said
and
done,
they'll
send
me
back
a
file
that
has
everything
that's
in
florida
state
plain,
so
it's
in
the
right
projection.
So
when
I
pull
it
into
my
gis
system,
it's
a
pretty
quick,
hey
now.
All
I
have
to
do
is
redraw
over
what
they
did
and
hopefully
I'm
pretty
sure
in
the
plans.
Locator
balls
are
required.
L
L
L
Yeah
3m
is,
I
think,
3m
is
one
of
the
few
companies
that
actually
makes
it.
So
the
balls
are
3m,
the
the
wand
is
3m
and
it's
it's
large.
You
know
what
I
mean
it's
two
feet
long
and
you
can
set
it
to
where
it
has
a
gain
and
it'll
make
noise
or
you
can
make
it
quiet,
you
can
use
it
with
headphones,
etc.
So
it's
not
bad.
So
are
there
any
other
questions
about
locator,
balls
and
locator
rings
all
right?
Well
then,
I
will
leave
you
with
that.
L
J
L
You
have
the
8-1-1
system
and
the
request
will
come
in
so
our
locator.
He
used
to
come
up
front
and
one
of
the
folks
that
worked
up
front.
She
would
print
out
all
the
all
the
locates
for
the
day,
but
now
he
has
a
tablet.
So
everything
comes
on
his
tablet
and
he
has
access
to
it
asap.
So
the
locator
he'll
get
the
he'll
get
a
request
to
go
locate
something
now,
since
it's
so
busy,
sometimes
when
they
need
gpr
or
something
like
that
I'll
go
out,
I'm
not
the
locator.
I
don't
do
look.
L
I
won't
take
credit
for
his
job
because
he's
he's
busy
he's
busy
all
the
time
he's
always
locating,
because,
obviously
we're
in
a
boom
town
the
whole
south
florida
all
every
place
is
a
boone
town.
I
guess
so.
I
just
kind
of
backfill
with
the
gpr
assistants.
If
they
need
it,
the
some
of
the
guys
will
call
and
say:
hey
the
locator
is
busy.
Can
you
come
out
and
gpr
this
for
us?
So
you
got
one
guy,
one
guy
wow
and
there's
a
backup,
there's
an
alternate.
So
there's
an
alternate
locator
too.
L
J
H
J
L
Pro
well,
you're
still
going
to
have
a
master
meter
correct
right,
so
usually
so,
generally
anything
behind
the
master
meter.
We're
not
concerned
with
okay.
Now,
if
it
gets
to
the
point
where
we
have
time-
and
we
can
be
that
granular-
it
could
be
something
that
we
could
come
keep
track
of
so
just
in
case
something
happens
and
there's
a
water
crew
in
the
area
and
they
can't
get
anybody.
L
A
A
L
We're
not
integrating
with
skate
at
this
time,
but
as
far
as
as
far
as
all
the
the
water
mains
force,
mains
and
gravity
mains,
so
one
of
the
good
things
about
me
having
the
ability
to
go
on
gpr
is
that
when
I
do
go
gpr
I
take
my
gps.
So
if
we
find
a
pipe
on
gpr
I'll,
take
the
gps
out
there
and
I'll
say:
hey,
there's
a
water
main
right
here
and
it
doesn't
seem
like
a
big
deal.
L
But
it
is
a
big
deal
to
me
because
now
I
know
where
the
water
main
is
a
lot
of
it
is
just
drawn
out
drawn
in.
According
to
the
old
plans,
now
gravity
main
that's
pretty
cut
and
dry
manhole
manhole
pipe
force
made
not
cut
and
dry
water
main,
not
gotten
dry
a
couple
years
ago.
I
don't
even
know
if
it
was
a
couple
years
ago,
but
on
henry
we
spent
a
long
time
looking
for
the
this
was
before
we
had
gpr2.
L
We
spent
a
long
time
looking
for
force
main,
so
when
we
would
do
the
when
we
would
do
the
vacuum
truck,
hey,
there's
a
force
right
here.
Let
me
put
it,
let
me
put
a
ping
on.
Let
me
put
a
point
on
it,
so,
basically,
what
I'll
do
is
when
I
do
gpr
is
I
try
to
get
a
stretch
and
I
can't
go
too
far
because
I'm
one
person,
but
I
try
to
get
a
stretch
of
pipe
and
what
I'll
do
is
I'll.
Do
a
couple
hundred
feet
and
I'll.
A
Colorado,
not
a
good
thing
to
have
happen
in
another
instance,
with
a
contractor
who's
doing
a
drainage
work
suddenly
came
across
a
pipe
steel
pipe,
and
you
know
you
you're
back
to
talking
to
the
older
people
who
live
around
there,
trying
to
get
the
information
from
them.
What
is
it?
Well,
as
I
remember
and
gee,
I
think
that
that
was
is
that
a
gas
line
is
it
active?
Is
it
not?
Pipelines
can
become
quite
a
serious
issue.
L
L
L
The
goal
is
to
make
everybody
valuable
instead
of
just
keeping
you
know,
because
because
we
have
we,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
have
been
here
for
a
long
time
and
they
do
know.
Unfortunately,
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
also
transitioning
to
the
next
phase
in
their
lives,
which
is
probably
retirement
and
playing
golf
and
hanging
out
or
maybe
being
on
utilities
advisory
board.
L
We
have
a
lot
of
people
transitioning,
so
so
the
goal
the
goal
is
to
make
that
that
data
available
to
everybody-
and
one
thing
I
forgot
to
mention
when
we're
talking
about
location
pipelines.
Now
whenever
we
have
a
project-
and
it
has
anything
like
taylor,
road,
water
main,
for
example,
the
engineer
will
give
us
a
cad
file,
geo
reference
and
state
plane,
not
just
paper.
L
J
Man,
oh
I'm
sorry
yeah,
I'm
sorry!
I
just
wanted
to
jump
on
everybody's
feelings.
I
mean
the
where
you've
come
in
two
years.
If
I'd
had
a
tip
to
you,
I
mean
I
worked
for
a
city
that
we
we
have
10
gprs
and
we
had
15
locators
and,
of
course
we
had
gas
service.
Also-
and
we
put
you
know,
those
are
signal
wires,
we'd
hook
on,
but
what
you've
done
in
two
years.
You
know
to
your
bosses,
you
know,
thank
you.
J
L
With
everybody
else
too,
I
don't
want,
I
don't
want
to
steal
all
the
thunder
from
all
the
other
people.
I
get
a
lot
of
help
from
the
our
whole
engineering
team,
steve
other
steve
and
then
robert
the
other
guy
on
the
engineering
team.
We
do
a
really
good
job
at
making
sure
like
we.
We
want
to
be
a
reactive
organizat.
L
A
G
At
the
last
meeting,
the
board
showed
interest
in
informing
the
community
about
the
quality
of
our
drinking
water.
Yes,
and
this
we
were
sent
this
and
we
went
through
the
assistant
city
manager
and
she
had
some
things
that
she
added
to
it,
and
this
looks
like
it's
very
good
to
me.
But
if
you,
gentlemen,
like
to
discuss
it.
A
I
think
maybe
I
should
take
it
from
from
there
at
this
point.
The
way
the
meeting
broke
up
last
time
last
month
was
that
I
would
get
together
with
the
assistant
city
manager.
Dr
richter,
I
believe,
is
her
name.
Am
I
pronouncing
that
correctly?
Kirsten
reichert,
melissa,
right
heart,
and
while
I
was
looking
to
have
a
meeting
with
her
instead,
she
asked
if
I
would
write
up
something
and
submit
it
to
her
explain.
A
What
we
were
interested
in
was
primarily
to
establish
the
quality
of
our
water
and
recognize
what
some
others
in
the
both
bottled
water
and
the
filtering
systems
were
presenting
and
she
took
it
and
then
you're
correct.
She
had
made
some
changes
to
the
end
of
it,
which
I
thought
were
very
well
placed,
but
up
until
now
there
has
been
no
discussion
on
the
the
document
itself.
A
A
A
His
other
issue
was
in
the
oh
later
on
was
the
the
wording
of
the,
and
I
have
his
document
here.
Someplace
tend
to
to
lose
it,
but
essentially
taking
out
the
what
he
also
felt
was
an
aggressive
fact,
and
instead
of
saying
that
you
know
be
sure
to
change
your
filters
on
a
regular
basis
that
it
should
just
be
following
the
requirements
that
were
established
for
the
filtering
system.
A
D
I
had
some
comments
chairman.
I
didn't
want
to
send
an
email
because
I
couldn't
recall
exactly
where
we
were
going
towards
contamination
versus
soft
water,
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
conversation
about
people
saying
what
does
hard
water
mean
and
and
how
much
we
want
to
get
into
it,
and
I
certainly
in
reviewing
the
document
could
add
a
lot
more,
but
I
think
we
have
to
think
about
how
to
strip
it
down,
to
something
more
simplistic
for
people
to
pay
attention
to
and
whether
that's
some
something
in
the
manager's
release.
D
D
Something
like
that
where
it
goes
out,
and
maybe
it's
just
a
series
of
little
rather
than
trying
to
stuff
too
much,
because
this,
I
think,
doesn't
say
enough
about
what
the
what
the
city's
doing
with
water.
I
understand.
The
last
paragraph
in
particular
is
very
useful,
but
I
don't
think
it.
It
shows
the
broad
context.
So
if
there's
fear
of
people-
and
I
know
if
you
go
into
home
depot
they're
like
you-
want
to
get
your
water
tested,
you
want
to
they're
they're
trying
to
push
all
these
systems
on.
D
I
think
we
almost
need
to
have
a
a
couple
of
little
items
and
then
they
can
be
somewhere
on
the
city's
website.
So
you
know
lead
or
contamination,
be
one
issue
to
discuss,
because
people
are
concerned
about
what
happened
in
flint
and
other
places,
and
then
I
think
the
hard
water
issue
is
a
separate
one,
and
maybe
if
we
just
had
a
single
paragraph
said
what
is
hard
water,
soft
water
and
then
here's
what
the
city's
water
is.
A
Let
the
people
know
that
you
don't
need
bottled
water,
our
water,
our
tap
water
is
clean.
It's
it's
everything
that
you
need
and
a
lot
cheaper
and
much
more
available
to
you.
You
don't
have
to
go
out
and
buy
it,
and
the
second
part
was
the
filtration
that
whether
or
not
it
would
really
be
of
any
necessity
to
have
filtration
in
the
house.
I've
never
had
filtration
but
refrigerators.
For
instance,
they
tell
you
that
it
works
better
with
filtration.
A
I
don't
understand
how
that's
a
feasible,
but
we're
certainly
seeing
these
people
who
want
to
come
in
and
monitor
your
tap
to
determine
the
quality
of
your
water.
Well,
I
think
we're
pretty
much
of
a
single
mind
that
usually,
that
means
filtration
they're
not
just
doing
this
for
their
their
benefit.
So
that
was
the
the
concept.
A
J
I
think
kind
of
to
play
off
with
what
derek
said,
and
you
know
you
went
to
this
issue
and
you
you
vetted
it
with
the
assistant
city
manager.
I,
like
the
idea
of
you,
know,
there's
a
weekly
report
out
by
the
city
manager.
I
get
it
from
two
different
sources.
He
also
does
a
weekly
article
in
in
the
newspaper.
J
You
know,
even
if
it's
you
know
bullet
items,
it
seems
like
the
city
manager,
he
picks
a
topic.
You
know
one
time
I
think
you
know
he
talked
about
the
the
job
need
here
in
the
city
and
they
expanded
on
how
good
these
jobs
are
and
benefits
earnings.
So
I
think
maybe
you
know
if
we
want
to
focus
on
the
ro
issue
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
Maybe
that's
a
good
avenue,
but
I
agree
with
derek:
simpler
is
better
better
because
you'll
lose
somebody
like
that.
J
D
D
For
this
reason-
and
you
know
to
the
chairman's
point-
don't
spend
extra
money-
you
don't
need
to
spend
when
we're
doing
the
same
things
I
just
I
don't
know
how
much
the
swing
is
in
our
in
the
water
quality
from
you
know
actually
to
the
house.
Is
there?
Is
there
a
swing
and
do
we
have
to
do?
We
have
to
address
that
in
some
ways
and
make
it
more
complicated?
I
don't
know.
E
E
The
chlorine
might
be
a
little
less.
You
know
a
lot
of
people
drink,
bottled
water
because
they
don't
like
the
taste
of
chlorine.
I
mean
that's
kind
of
long
and
short
of
it.
I
I
don't
know
I
I
I
think
it's
always
good
to
toot
your
own
horn
when
you're
doing
a
good
job
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
money,
and
you
know
we're
in
compliance.
E
H
Annually
we
send
out,
what's
called
a
consumer
confidence
report.
It
has
all
of
the
primary
and
secondary
drinking
water
standards
as
part
of
it
which
the
secondary
taste.
You
know
color
things
like
that,
and
we
are
required
to
post
that
to
our
customers
annually,
we've
mailed
it
in
the
past.
I
think
we've
gone
to
websites
and
publishing
it
in
the
paper,
but
the
layman's
not
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
the
constituents
and
tell
whether
that's
good
or
bad.
H
E
E
Yeah,
but
anyway,
I
was
just
thinking
that
that
is
an
opportunity
to
add
some
narrative
that
you
know
says
what
a
good
job
we're
doing.
I
I'm
really
not
interested
in
battling
bottled
water
and
that
sort
of
thing,
I
just
think
you
know
just
use
that
report
and
have
some
errors
to
tell
them
what
a
good
job
we're
doing,
we're
in
compliance,
etc,
etc.
H
H
A
A
So
here
people
are
taking
bottled
water
for
concerns,
and
I
never
have
heard
the
chlorine
so
much
as
just
that.
Well,
this
is
so
much
cleaner,
and
this
is
so
much
better,
and
you
know
I
I'm
safer
with
the
bottled
water
as
opposed
to
the
tap
water,
and
that
to
me
is
disturbing,
because
I
find
the
tap
order.
A
A
More
of
a
generality,
I
wasn't
looking
at
ro,
I
just
threw
in
the
oro,
because
we
just
done
a
spectacular
job.
The
city
just
did
a
spectacular
job
of
of
developing
the
ro
process
to
add
additional
benefits
to
the
to
the
water,
also
to
bring
it
into
compliance,
but
I
didn't
think
that
that
was
a
drum
that
needed
to
be
beaten.
A
The
concept
is
what
I
was
thinking
if
that
was
the
discussion,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
needs
to
be
limited
or
that
it
can't
be.
We
can't
have
a
discussion
with
the
city
manager
is
putting
in
things
like
derek,
was
talking
about,
maybe
an
article
every
once
in
a
while
just
reinforcing
the
the
benefits
of
the
city's
water.
D
I'm
just
looking
at
that
at
the
actual
language
we
have
and-
and
I
think
the
last
two
paragraphs
don't
need
to
be
changed
at
all.
I
think
my
my
recommendation
would
be
if
we
could
somehow
consolidate
the
two
first
two
paragraphs
into
one
paragraph
saying
you
know:
do
you
need
an
addition?
Do
you
do
you
need
additional
filters
at
your
home
or
something?
D
To
that
extent
you
know
and
then
saying
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
matter
of
choice,
but
you
know
if,
if
you've
heard
something
else,
the
city's
water
supply
is
safe,
it
meets
all
the
requirements
now
this
is
and
then,
and
then
that
leads
right
into
the
city
has
spent
this
much
money
doing
this
bringing
the
aero
plan.
I
think
that's
just
kind
of
a
you
know.
Almost
like
a
question:
do
you
do
you
need
these
extra
filters?
The
answer
is,
no.
D
D
A
C
C
There's
people
coming
into
this
community
continually.
There's
people
dying,
there's
people
bringing
in
the
new
grandkids
they're,
complaining,
they're,
worried
about
the
kids,
getting
sick
and
they're
worried
about
chlorine,
taste
and
they're.
Worried
about
you
know
getting
silver
amalgams
in
your
teeth.
When
you
go
the
dentist
and
we're
going
to
take
on
the
dentist,
then
for
washing
your
teeth
with,
I
don't
know
I
I
don't
think
we
need
to
do
that.
I
don't
think
that's
our
job.
C
I
think
what
we
need
to
do
is
to
advise
the
utility
board
about
making
sure
that
you
stay
ahead
of
all
of
the
regulatory
aspects
that
you
have
to
do
and
you're
doing
a
heck
of
a
good
job
at
it.
I,
like
I,
like
the
concept
that
you
put
forward
early
on,
and
it's
come
up
a
couple
of
times
here
from
different
directions
that
the
city
manager
and
the
assistant,
city
manager
and
members
of
the
city
council
have
opportunities
in
their
weekly
update
on
on.
C
What's
going
on
in
the
in
the
city,
they
put
those
kinds
of
things
in
fine
good.
They
should
we
should.
We
should
encourage
you
guys
to
the
extent
you've
got
the
money
without
raising
the
cost
of
service
to
the
public.
Then
you
should
be.
You
should
be
putting
those
reports
out.
I
think
you
do
a
marvelous
job
at
it.
I
think
you,
maybe
we
don't
tell
you
enough
to
pat
you
on
the
back,
but
I
think
all
of
us
are
absolutely
proud
of
the
work.
C
B
E
You've
heard
my
comments
about
adding
the
narrative
to
the
report
and
tooting
your
horn
that
you're
doing
a
good
job.
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
a
utility
department
to
do
that.
I
mean
one
I
worked
at.
We
had
a
marketing
department,
we
had
a
marketing
department
and
that's
what
we
did.
All
the
time
is
extol
our
virtues
to
our
customers,
whether
it
be
related
to
rates
or
water
quality.
So.
E
My
pitch
would
be
that
I
think
that
we've
touched
on
something
here
and
that
it
should
be
thrown
back
to
the
utilities
department
to
work
with
the
city
manager
to
put
together
a
semiannual
or
quarterly
sort
of
attaboy
for
yourself,
as
it
relates
to
water
quality,
as
it
relates
to
other
good
things
that
you're
doing.
I,
I
think,
that's
important,
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
coming
from
I
you
know
there
are
no
guarantees
in
the
world.
E
E
E
B
A
So
it's
was
the
concept
and
again
that
just
was
the
concept
that
was
mentioned
last
last
week
was
just
hey.
These
folks
are
you
know
in
in,
in
some
ways
at
least
the
way
I
read
it
pretty
much,
impacting
or
or
kind
of
indicating
that
our
water
isn't
up
to
the
needs
that
comes
right
out
of
the
tap
and
therefore
you
have
to
do
all
these
additional
things.
We
just
had
a
friend
build
a
house
with
a
complete
filtration
system
in
it
for
everything
yeah,
that's
money
spent
that
I
think
is
probably
going
down.
J
B
J
I
kind
of
I
think,
we're
all
saying
in
different
ways:
we
just
felt
these
guys
and
ladies
and
everybody
are
doing
a
good
job
and
that
should
be
highlighted.
You
know,
I've
talked
around,
you
know
a
little
happy
hour.
We
have
and
somebody
says,
oh
you
know
I
got
this
system
in
because
the
water
is
terrible.
J
I'm
like
whoa
uh-huh,
we've
got
an
rl
planned
and
we
we're
meeting
all
requirements
that
are
there
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
where
my
feeling
I
bore
out
of
is
to
sometimes
you
like
to
say
you
know,
atta
boy
about
a
girl.
You
know
good
good,
good
job
and
you
know
let
let
hey
you
know,
like
you
said
your
friends
put
in
a
whole
system,
that's
their
business.
You
know,
maybe
maybe
the
people
that
sold
the
system
they've
got
a
good
marketing
team.
They
probably
do
they
undoubtedly.
A
J
D
I
my
thought
is,
and
and
just
given
the
way
the
conversation's
gone,
I
I
think
we
all
just
let
the
actual
flyer
for
the
most
part
live
for
now,
and
you
know,
we've
we've
made
our
comments.
They're
on
the
record.
We
you've
you've
shared
this
with
the
assistancy
manager.
If
the
manager
wants
to
take
some
of
this
information
incorporate
it,
we
we
think
it's
a
good
idea.
D
We
think
it'd
be
helpful
to
show
all
the
work
you're
doing
and
the
work
you're
going
to
be
doing
that's
going
to
be
an
additional
ask
of
the
public
and
just
to
help
counter
some
of
the
not
just
the
sales
but
the
next
door
comments.
You
know
when
people
come
to
the
community,
we
have
a
lot
of
turnover,
especially
in
the
aisles
people
come
in
and
they
they
come
with
preconceived
notions
and
that
rumor
control
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
issues
out
there.
A
A
E
I
sent
an
email
out,
I
don't
know
when
it
was
a
month
or
so
ago
to
peter-
and
maybe
you
too
george,
I
I
thought
there
were
several
people
on
it.
I
had
read
in
the
newspaper
from
the
city
manager
about
the
comprehensive
plan
that,
yes,
after
two
or
three
years
worth
of
work,
it's
finished
now
it's
been
adopted.
E
I
had
attended
a
couple
of
meetings.
They
had
hired
a
high-profile
consultant
to
help
the
city
put
this
together
and
then
the
city
manager
said
in
there
he
said.
I
have
asked
all
the
city
department
heads
to
comment
on
this
plan
on
how
they're
going
to
respond
to
it
and
I
thought
well
gee.
I
never
heard
anything
about
that
from
the
utilities
department,
so
I
sent
it
to
peter,
and
you
know
he
was
kind
of
betwixt
in
between
chuck
was
gone
and
chuck
was
kind
of
gone
the
last
couple
of
months.
E
He
was
here
dealing
with
his
health,
and
so
I
I
think
the
word
I
got
back
was
you
were
going
to
run
it
down.
Maybe
chuck
had
made
some
comments
and
that's
kind
of
where
it
ended.
I
don't
want
to
beat
this
meeting
to
death.
I
think
we
set
a
record
today,
but
that
was
I'm
just
following
up
on
the
email
I
sent
to
you.
G
Yes,
I
was
able
to
access
chuck's
emails
and
I
talked
to
kylie
the
city
manager's
secretary
assistant,
and
she
doesn't
remember
any
correspondences
about
that
alone
and
I
talked
to
steve
and
we
had
never
really
been
involved
or
with
any
of
that.
We
do
give
a
10
year,
cip,
project
list
for
budgetary
reasons,
but
other
than
that.
G
D
Comprehensive
planning,
just
back
from
my
own
background
on
this
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
if
it's
joan,
lebeau
or
who,
that's
probably,
who
would
be
court,
would
have
been
coordinating,
not
the
manager
himself.
But
you
know
the
requirements
state
law.
That
is,
that
you
lay
out
your
cip
and,
if
you're
updating
it
every
year.
D
That's
generally
all
that
require,
but
I
would
think
that
whatever
comes
out
of
the
planning
efforts
of
mr
bowe's
office,
plus
the
what's
being
considered
by
the
city's
consultants
for
the
land
development
code,
all
that
should
come
out
and
say
at
the
end
of
so
many
years.
We're
going
to
have
this
many
new
users,
and
I
think
that's
where
the
real
coordination
that
makes
sure
that
you
have
the
same
numbers
they
have,
and
you
have
built
in
what
they're
planning
to
to
allow
that.
That,
I
think,
is
the
main
thing
that
needs
to
be
confirmed.
H
H
None
of
us
are
planning
experts
we're
not
planners.
We
don't
have
a
planner
in
the
utility
department,
so
we
hire
an
outside
consultant
to
work
directly
with
joan
lebeau.
We
do
review
everything,
that's
been
sent
to
her,
but
it's
all
stuff
that
we're
all
familiar
with
the
concurrency
capacity
analysis
stuff.
We're
do
we're
doing
all
that
on
our
own.
We
just
don't
put
it
into
comprehensive
plan
language,
but
we
do
review
what
our
consultant
sends
to
the
to
joan
lebeau
we're
on
a
copy
list
back
and
forth.