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Historic Preservation Advisory Board 11-17-2022
A
C
D
E
B
A
B
B
B
F
B
A
A
A
When
I
needed
it
and
I
put
a
lot
of
money
in
and
maintaining
it
getting
batteries
and
service,
and
it
didn't
work
and
the
sad
part
about
it
is,
is
no
I
was
in
Colorado
camping,
catching
huge
drought.
My
poor
wife
and
son
were
here
when
she
went
to
go
to
the
she'd
been
staying
with
the
nurse
out
in
the
High
Country.
Actually
not
too
far
from
the
water
plant
was
where
they
live,
and
when
she
got
home
and
there
was
no
generator,
it
was
I
heard
about
it.
C
I'll
tell
you:
I
noticed
something
really
strange:
the
Friday
after
the
storm,
I
was
cleaning
up
and
Amazon
was
making
deliveries
and
they
were
delivering
generators
to
some
of
my
neighbors
yeah.
So
now,
right
out
by
the
interstate,
there
are
people,
Hawking
them
and
sell.
You
know
overpricing.
You
could
still
order
from
Amazon.
You
could
arrive
at
the
house.
G
Doing
good
the
water
plant,
while
we
had
a
pretty
busy
month
at
the
end
of
September
and
October,
with
leaks
and
everything
until
we
could
get
those
under
containment,
but
we
did
good.
We
had
the
water
back
on
to
the
majority
of
the
city
the
day
after
the
hurricane,
so
by
doing
that,
we
kind
of
mess
with
the
Wastewater
collections
because
they
weren't
prepared
for
the
electric
and
generators
and
stuff.
So
we
had
some
issues
with
that,
but
I
think
everything
turned
out
pretty
good
good.
G
G
G
G
G
A
A
He
was
at
this
public
hearing
that
I
attended
here
at
this
building
three
or
four
days
ago,
whenever
it
was
Tuesday,
I
guess
and
he
spoke
very
highly
of
the
RO
plant
and
he
assured
all
the
people
in
here
that
we
had
plenty
of
water
for
this
expansion.
That's
taking
place
at
Fisherman's
Village,
and
you
know
the
ex-mayor
got
on
his
box
and
did
a
very
nice
job
for
the
utilities.
He
really
did
to
try
and
make
people
feel
comfortable
at
this
hearing.
A
F
Thank
you
if
I
may
add
to
that.
If
it's
going
to
be
Accolade
time,
I
I
give
hikes
to
fourth
graders
in
Charlotte
County
out
at
Charlotte,
Harbor
Environmental
Center,
and
we
talk
about
the
Estuary
and
you
know
where
you
know:
Peace
River
Mike
a
river
and
it
was
hatching
and
I
always
very
proudly
tell
all
the
kids
and
their
parents
and
the
teachers
that
we
won.
F
F
G
G
It
was
the
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
amending
the
general
provisions
of
chapter
17.,
Public
Utilities
Article
1
General
Provisions
water
rates
and
Article
2,
use
of
public
and
private
sewers
and
drain
sewer
rates,
Punta
Gorda
code
to
increase
the
monthly
utility
rates
providing
for
conflict
and
severability
and
providing
for
an
effective
date.
It
was
the
first
reading
of
that.
G
The
second
item
was
on
the
consent
agenda,
and
it
was
the
water
Wastewater.
Mutual
aid
program
was
established
to
provide
a
method
whereby
water,
Wastewater
utility,
sustaining
physical
damage
from
natural
or
man-made
disasters
could
obtain
emergency
assistance
in
the
form
of
personnel,
equipment
and
materials
and
other
Associated
Services
necessary
for
the
water
Wastewater
utilities.
The
purpose
of
this
agreement
is
to
become
a
participant
of
such
program
and
we
did
receive
help
from
for
water
from
the
city
of
Plantation.
G
They
sent
over
I
believe
it
was
six
people
and
they
were
here
for
about
a
week
and
they
assisted
us
greatly
because
it
was
getting
to
the
point
where
we
had
just
a
couple.
You
know
kind
of
short
staffed
at
the
moment,
so
we
had
a
couple
Crews
and
we
didn't
have
the
amount
of
leaks
that
we
did
after
Charlie.
But
we
had
a
pretty
good
number
of
weeks
and
they
were
there
and
stayed
all
hours
of
the
day
and
helped
greatly
appreciate
it.
And
then.
E
G
Had
two
of
them-
and
that
was
through
Florida
Rural
Water-
put
that
together
of
course,
and
they
were
extremely
helpful-
they
brought
generators.
They
were
here
before
anybody
else
with
generators
and
they
I
think
they
brought
three
generators
with
us
with
them.
Wastewater
collections
took
a
couple
for
the
lift
stations
and
then,
after
through
Florida,
worn
I
think
it
was.
E
F
B
B
H
Our
insurance
company,
as
well
as
FEMA,
because
even
though
part
of
the
building
was
going
to
be
demoed,
the
the
newer
portion,
the
older
portion,
was
going
to
just
be
rehabilitated
with
the
storm.
There's
additional
damage
and
may
have
caused
additional
work
that
wasn't
in
the
current
scope
of
work.
H
So
moving
into
the
monthly
financials,
this
is
starting
the
new
fiscal
year
so
for
October
we're
8.3
percent
through
the
fiscal
year,
the
revenue
side
you
can
see
we
were
slightly
under
for
charges
for
service
and
again
some
of
that
might
have
been.
You
know
there
was
a
couple
days
without
water.
Additionally,
we
have
had.
H
We
are
doing
some
adjustments
for
customers
who
may
have
had
leaks
due
to
like
say
Seawall
failure,
or
things
like
that,
so
they
had
and
they
might
not
have
noticed
it
right
away,
obviously,
because
it's
not
coming
through
their
house,
so
we
are
working
on
some
adjustments
when
things
like
that,
come
in
the
as
Neil
mentioned,
we
did
bring
the
rate
increase
for
the
3.75
percent
increase
to
council,
it
was
approved
and
it
went
into
effect
as
of
November
1.
So
you
don't
see
that
reflected
here.
H
H
A
lot
of
people
were
all
hands
on
set.
Trying
to
you
know,
make
sure
we
could
keep
the
system
up
and
running
as
and
get
it
up
and
running
as
quick
as
possible,
and
you
see
there
the
divisions
are
starting
to
put
in
their
encumbrances
for
the
entire
year,
so
those
are
usually
like
their
chemicals
and
things
like
that
again
due
to
the
storm.
Some
work
is
still
ongoing
in
that
area.
So
you
probably
will
see
more
encumbrances
in
November.
A
H
One
month
that
it's
less
and
generally
on
the
expenditure
side,
you
will
generally
see
that
because
again,
the
division
does
budget
conservatively
and,
of
course,
as
we're
getting
started
in
the
year.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
little
time
to
get
going
there,
but
the
First
Column
is
our
year-to-date
estimate.
H
This
is
just
showing
the
total
annual
budget
and
where
we're
at
compared
to
the
total
annual
versus
just
the
month
to
month
and
again,
you
can
see
for
revenues
we're
about
seven
percent
sewer
billing
7.8
percent
and
that's
typical
for
this
time
of
year,
the
departmental
operating
we're
at
7.6.
So
again,
we
do
expect
that
when
we
do
compare
to
last
year
we
are
27
575
000.,
twenty
seven
thousand
five
hundred
seventy
five
dollars
less
than
the
year
to
date
last
year.
But
again
that
was
to
be
expected.
H
I
don't
have
the
comparison
one
yet
because
we
were
still
working
on
September.
We
a
lot
of
people
were
sending
in
late
invoices
because
of
the
storm.
So
we
want
to
give
you
a
little
better
data
on
that,
so
hopefully,
for
the
next
month,
we'll
have
that
updated
for
you
for
comparison,
but
year-to-date
Revenue.
You
can
see
we're
approximately
1.5
million
and
year-to-date
expenditures,
just
under
4
million.
H
H
H
H
G
E
G
A
couple
fun
facts
about
Hurricane
Ian
made
landfalls
category
four.
Two
day.
Two
months
ago
today
on
the
28th
of
September
I
tied
several
other
storms
for
the
fifth
strongest
hurricane
on
record
to
make
landfall
in
the
contiguous
United
States
is
reported
to
have
caused
over
50.2
billion
dollars
in
Damages,
which
I'm
sure
will
go
up,
and
it
has
been
blamed
for
a
total
of
157
deaths.
Five
in
Cuba
146
in
Florida,
five
in
North
Carolina
and
one
in
Virginia.
G
G
And
has
that
ever
been
determined?
If
it
was
a
manufacturing
default
defect
or
not
yeah,
the
manufacturer
came
out
and
it
was,
it
may
be
a
default
in
the
manufacturing
of
it.
So
they're
looking
at
that
because
they
said
it
should
have
not
done
that
just
from
the
storm
and
then
we
had
part
of
the
filter.
G
G
E
G
Yeah
it
didn't
like
Steve
and
my
side
of
the
building.
It
just
ripped
the
roof
right
off
the
whole
side
of
it
and
we
actually
they
put
air
scrubbers
and
dehumidifiers
in
there
and
we
came
in
on
a
Monday.
We
had
rain
that
weekend.
All
the
air,
scrubbers
and
stuff
were
gone
and
we
had
more
rain
I
think
in
the
building.
Then
then
during
the
hurricane,
because
they
came
and
put
a
temporary
roof
on
and
they
covered
right
in
that
front
corner,
there's
a
roof
drain
and
they
covered
the
roof
drain.
G
E
G
We're
all
kind
of
strewn
about
these
guys
are
in
public
works.
I
was
in
the
computer,
training
room,
the
crews,
the
water
and
wastewater
Cruise,
just
basically,
they
open
the
doors
every
day
and
have
fans,
and
at
least
they
can
get
out
of
the
Sun,
and
we
have
a
couple
temporary
buildings
now
for
for
administration.
They
got
the
power
hooked
up
to
them,
but
they're,
maybe
big
enough
for
three
or
four
people
per
trailer.
E
G
G
G
I
G
E
I
For
the
record,
Steve
Leonard
I
apologize
for
the
way
this
is
being
presented
to
you,
but
we're
under
another
time
crunch,
and
we
heard
you
loud
and
clear
last
time
when
we
asked
Council
to
do
something
that
was
preliminary
without
at
least
telling
you
about
it.
First,
what
needs
to
happen
by
December
29th,
which
means
Council,
has
to
do
it
in
a
meeting
before
then,
which
is
before
you
will
meet
again,
is
Council
needs
to
do
a
resolution
to
borrow
the
money
and
it's
a
requirement
from
srf.
I
We
hope
to
have
it
on
the
December
7th
Council
agenda
and
all
it
is
is
saying.
Yes,
we
intend
to
do
this
project.
The
numbers
we
received
are
extremely
conservative.
They
have
Market
escalation
in
them.
They
weren't
able
there
wasn't
time
to
rebid
the
job
between
when
the
100
plans
come
out
and
where
I'm
standing
here
today,
I
got
the
numbers
for
the
plant
on
the
Tuesday
of
last
week.
I
So
all
they
did
was
they
looked
at
some
of
the
major
changes
between
90
and
100,
which
there
was
some
changes
to
the
foundation
and
we
hope
there's
more
changes
coming
before.
We
bid
the
job,
but
they
looked
at
those
changes
and
they
were
able
to
reduce
their
number
their.
Their
original
number
was
before
Market
escalation.
I
I
And
you
know
they
added
market-esque
that
that
included
the
market
escalation.
I
don't
have
the
number
before
the
market
escalation,
but
basically,
with
you
know
before
we
put
in
the
construction
contingency
and
the
escalation
contingency
for
Market
values,
which
you
know
may
or
may
not
be
the
case
today,
we're
at
71
million
957
000..
That
is
not
a
lot
different
than
the
last
pro
forma,
the
last
pro
forma
and
what
you
saw
in
the
budget,
but
currently
that
number
with
those
two
numbers
is
sitting
at
79..
I
We
have
to
have
one
that
covers
at
least
the
amount
we're
going
to
borrow
because
we
have
to
do
the
loan
application
now.
This
isn't
where
we
ask
exactly
for
the
money.
This
is
like
the
beginning:
paperwork,
the
prior
approval
paperwork
and
starting
December
9th.
If
everything
goes
all
right,
we
are
going
to
put
this
job
on
the
street
and
we're
going
to
bid
it
and
obviously
it's
going
to
be
awarded
to
the
low
bid.
I
can
tell
you
this.
No,
no
item
has
been
added
to
this.
To
increase
the
money.
I
All
we
have
done
is
attempt
to
lower
the
price
of
this,
and
we
have
another
report
coming
because
we
went
on
ahead
and
spent
some
money
to
say
we
want
somebody
else
to
look
at
this
subsurface,
because
it's
20
million
dollars,
I
mean
by
the
time
I
add
the
general
conditions
for
the
contractor
to
be
on
site
another
six
months,
the
steel
piles,
the
additional
dewatering
is
going
to
be
required.
This
is
a
20
million
dollar
I'm,
going
to
call
it
Adder
to
the
project
that
we
feel
they.
I
The
engineer
might
be
being
a
little
conservative,
so
we
want
somebody
else
to
look
at
it
and
say:
yes,
you
need
all
this
or
no
you
don't,
since
we've
hired
somebody
else,
the
that's
where
the
reduction
came
in
the
engineer
reevaluated
his
work
said
well,
you
know,
based
on
the
tests
we've
gotten,
we
could
probably
back
it
down
to
this.
We're
hoping
it
backs
down
more
we're
hoping
this
numbers
extremely
conservative,
but
our
timetable
is
so
tight.
We
didn't
I
didn't
have
time
to
pair
this,
for
you
have
her.
A
E
A
The
sensitivity
I
mean,
where
does
it
become?
The
project
is
too
big
to
go
forward
as
it
is
currently
laid
out.
That's
the
sensitivity
that
I
would
ask
for
you
know
we
started
at
56
million.
That
was
a
big
or
57
whatever
it
was.
That
was
a
big
pie,
but
you
know
we
adjusted
our
rates.
We're
going
for
this
loan,
not
Grant,
but
loan.
A
Where
do
we
get
to
the
point
where
the
act?
The
sensitivity
is
such
that
we
can't
do
the
project
as
we
have
it
designed
and
laid
out.
I
mean.
Where
is
that
if
there?
If
there
is
no
sensitivity,
then
we
just
keep
charging
forward,
but
you
know
I
always
lived
in
a
world
that
sooner
or
later
you
get
to
a
point
where
that
baby
is
too
big
and
something
needs
to
be
done.
I
I,
don't
hear
that
I,
so
I
guess
we're
in
good
shape.
C
Well,
let
me
let
me
just
ask
real
quick
you're.
All
you're
doing
is
before
the
end
of
the
year.
You
want
to
get
an
allocation
from
the
state
revolving
fund,
so
you
want
to
put
out
the
high
number
so
that
next
year,
when
they're,
giving
out
the
amounts
of
money
that
are
set
aside,
they're
still
available
financing
in
the
pool
before
you
come
and
actually
ask
for
your
actual
loan
package.
Is
that
correct.
E
H
We
Kristen
Simeone
again
Finance
director,
so
we
already
put
our
application
in
back
in
August
and
we
were
approved
to
move
forward
with
an
application
right
now
in
December.
But
again
they
will
only
give
us
a
certain
amount
per
year
and
I
think
it
was
increased,
so
I
believe
it's
20
million
now
per
year.
H
So
even
though
this
says
seven
and
again,
it'll
be
the
construction
side,
so
we
may
have
to
increase
that
71
million
just
a
tad
because
again
we
don't
want
to
have
to
go
back
to
council
with
another
resolution
if
there's
escalations.
So
again
we
just
got
the
report,
so
we
didn't
have
a
chance
to
do
the
new,
performa
and
update
the
sheet
yet,
but
we
will
do
it
as
quickly
as
possible
because
obviously
we
have
to
get
it
in
for
the
council
meeting
in
order
to
meet
the
deadline
for
that
application
process.
C
And
I
guess
the
question
I'd
ask
and
following
up
on
on
your
question,
Dennis
is:
is
there
I,
don't
think?
Even
if
there
was
an
agreement
with
Charlotte
County
to
tie
into
there,
they
don't
have
capacity
to
take
over.
So
from
a
Wastewater
perspective,
we
don't
have
options
if
we're
we're
at
our
we're
at
our
maximum
plant
allowance,
we're
going
to
have
to
move
forward
with
expansion
there's
no.
We
can't
tie
into
anyone
that
the
county
is
going
to
be
making
their
own
expansion
soon
and
they're,
not
gonna.
There's.
C
A
The
way
this
project
is
laid
out
where
our
permit
is
for
MGD
and
what
we're
doing
with
this
project
is
just
assuring
that
we
have
the
facilities
in
place
to
meet
the
permit
at
4mgd.
There's
it
it's,
it
can't
do
it
now.
According
to
staff,
the
plant
can't
meet
a
4
MGD
flow,
even
though
it's
permitted
for
four.
You
can't
meet
that
because
of
whether
it
be
clarifiers
or
insufficient,
aeration
or
piping
and.
E
A
I
don't
know
there,
there
comes
a
time
where
big
is
too
big
and
that's
all
I'm
asking
about
as
staff
thought
through.
That
is
there
a
point
where,
and
maybe
it
really
comes
down
to
the
the
finances
I
mean.
Where
is
there
a
point
where
the
project
is
too
big
and
it
needs
to
be
trimmed?
That's
I,
guess
that's
my
question.
I
understand
what
you
need
to
do
and
submit
maybe
I'm
getting
into
an
ear:
I,
don't
I'm
getting
into
an
area,
that's
not
applicable,
for
what
you
want
to
do.
A
H
I
The
state
statute
we're
coming
up
on
a
statutory
retirement
requirement,
we're
at
73.46
percent
of
our
daily
Flow
by
our
three-month
rolling
average.
Once
you
reach
75
percent,
you
have
to
start
doing
Capacity
Analysis
reports,
things
like
that.
We're
going
to
really
struggle
to
get
somebody
with
comma
PE
after
their
name
to
say,
they're,
good,
they're,
okay,
they're
plants,
treating
it
it's
meeting.
I
A
E
I
I
71
million
dollar
number
I
had
in
my
meeting
I
said:
listen.
Do
you
guys
all
want
to
work
for
Punta
Gorda
tomorrow,
because
there's
a
chance
I
mean
there's
no
there's
no
corners
to
cut
Dennis,
there's
no
fat
to
cut
out
of
this
project.
It's
already
been
cut.
We
did
an
alternative
analysis
looking
at
what
we
could
save
out
of
our
existing
plant
and
we
were
going
to
save
about
one
million
dollars
and
we'd
use
up
that
one
million
dollars
in
a
year
where.
I
I
C
Well,
the
other
thing
we
got
we
got
to
consider
is
right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
money
available
through
the
state
revolving
fund
and
at
very
low
rates,
and
that
has
not
always
been
the
case
and
it'll
probably
be
from
what
I
understand
from
DeSoto
County
from
a
couple.
Other
counties
that
I
know
are
going
through
plan
expansions
the
racing
to
get
in
there
now,
while
there's
plenty
of
money
to
be
had.
C
A
H
H
A
H
I
Two
one
no
I
mean
this
project.
You
know
the
cap,
the
County's
really
helping
us
out
too,
because
their
zoning
put
up
put
a
stick
in
my
crawl
because
we're
supposed
to
have
a
building
permit
and
they're
they're
zoning
out
of
the
11th
Hour
jumped
up
and
said:
oh,
you
got
to
do
a
special
exemption,
even
though
we're
a
pre-existing
legal
use.
They
say
it's
just
like
the
water
plan.
I
said
the
water
plant.
There
was
nothing
on
that
site.
C
C
C
I
C
G
A
D
E
A
E
A
A
F
F
If,
if
I
may
three,
three
very
quick
things,
one
you
mentioned
generators
and
the
issue
you
borrowed
some
some
brought
them
in
again
I'm.
Just
speaking
from
past
experience,
I
work
for
the
City
of
Sunrise
and
we
had
20
million
generators
enough
forever.
I
know,
there's
grants
out
there
I
know
there's
especially
now
we,
you
know
National
disaster
I.
Just
saying.
Is
anybody
looking
at
that
to
possibly
grab
a
grant
to
get
us
some
more
generators?
Yeah?
Yes,
very
good
I
thought
you
would
you're
not
silly
second
thing.
F
Thank
you
to
your
staff,
especially
the
the
men
and
women
that
are
in
air
conditioning
areas.
You
know
thank
God.
It's
coming
into
the
you
know
the
winter
months,
but
is
there
any
discussion
of
you
know
you
see
reading
the
paper
every
day,
FEMA's
bringing
down
all
these
trailers?
Is
there
any
way
the
city
could
grab
some
of
those
four-year
staff?
And
it's
again
just
a
suggestion.
They
don't
have
to
answer
me
and
then
last.
D
We
are
working
Steve,
Adams
utilities,
we're
working
very
hard
on
digitizing
all
of
our
plans
and
just
recently
through
last
year's
budget.
We
purchased
a
a
better
scanner
so
that
we
could
speed
that
process
up,
but
definitely
we're
moving
on
on
to
the
computer
system,
so
we'll
have
that
alternative
system
in
place.
F
F
D
D
The
other
thing
that
Dennis
mentioned,
we
don't
know
a
lot
about
the
Fisherman's
Village,
but
we
certainly
know
about
they're
talking
about
an
expansion
and
we
do
have
a
contract
right
now
with
our
planning
consultant
carollo,
that's
going
to
help
us
with
water
modeling
and
we're
going
to
put
that
new
demand
in
and
start
to
evaluate.
You
know
how
we
could
possibly
serve
that
project
and
if
any
Improvement
should
be,
you
know
planned
for
as
that
project
proceeds.
D
So
we
we
know
enough
about
it
that
we're
going
ahead
and
included
in
our
scope,
where
we're
going
to
do
a
water
supply
master
plan
as
well
as
a
water
model.
We're
going
to
look
at
all
demands,
and
you
know,
take
a
second
look
at
our
distribution
system
because
we
started
to
see
this
creep
where
densities
were
increasing
and
it
kind
of
caught
us
off
guard
or
maybe
by
a
little
bit
by
surprise
earlier
last
year.
D
So
we
went
ahead
and
said
we're
going
to
take
another
second
look
at
our
water
system
and
our
Wastewater
system,
and
especially
in
these
areas
where
you've
heard
there
may
be
some
growth
and
one
of
them
was
the
downtown
project
and
the
other
one
was
in
fact
Fisherman's
Village.
But
we
haven't
really
seen
their
plan
or
a
number
yet,
but
we're
ready
to
be
conceptual
yeah.