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Regular City Council Meeting 6-21-2023
B
C
C
A
C
C
Celebrate
July
4th
and
this
beautiful
country,
the
amazing
things
that
it
has
accomplished
and
imported
to
us.
We
ask
for
your
strength
and
your
respect
for
each
and
every
person
in
this
proceedings.
Today
we
ask
for
us
to
find
truth,
foundational
truth
in
each
and
everything
that
comes
to
the
floor,
and
we
ask
you
for
peace
in
the
process
as
we
conduct
the
speed
today,
they
thank
Wanderers
for
keep
us
safe
and
come
to
the
rescue
of
those
in
need.
Thank
you
for
our
military
here
at
home
and
abroad
to
continue.
B
B
Okay,
our
first
presentation
today
is
a
service
award
for
five
years
of
service,
and
this
will
be
going
to
Todd
help.
Who
is
our
I.T
guy?
That
does
all
of
our
GIS
program.
If
anyone
ever
goes
on
our
City
website
and
looks
up
properties,
information
or
goes
on
the
county
tax
Appraiser's
website
and
looks
up
GIS
information
for
homes
in
the
community
he's
the
guy
that
puts
all
that
in
the
system.
So
Todd.
Congratulations,
we're
glad
to
have
you
on
board.
Thank.
D
Style.
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
been
a
joy
here.
My
high
school
football
coach
always
said
you
owe
what
you're
running
with
and
I'm
very
proud
to
be
running
with
you
all
for
the
last
five
years
and
I
hope.
There's
five
more
God
willing.
B
B
B
B
A
beautiful
community
resource
visited
by
hundreds
of
citizens
and
visitors
on
a
monthly
basis
and
whereas
the
PGI
green
thumbs
is
pleased
to
congratulate
Miss
LeBeau
on
her
retirement
and
recognize
the
valuable
contributions
she
has
made
to
their
organization
and
the
community.
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
Proclaim
August
4
2023.
As
Joan
Laboe
day,
Pastor
Julie
adopted
a
regular
session.
This
21st
day
of
June
2023
signed
Lynn
R
Matthews
Mayer.
E
E
We
need
a
new
project,
and
so
we
came
up
with
the
idea
of
working
at
Nature
Park
and
if
you
can
remember
Nature
Park
about
12
years
ago,
it
was
trees
and
weeds
and
Joan
went
out
on
a
limb
and
said
that
we
could
rework
Nature,
Park
and
I
want
to
say
people
in
authority
never
get
in
trouble.
Saying
no
okay,
but
she
said
yes
and
let
us
go
and
it's
been
a
life-changing
experience
for
us
get
up
here.
Girl-
and
these
are
some
of
the
backbone
of
our
group.
It's
Peggy,
Johnson
and
Joyce.
E
Slawback
and
people
say
volunteerism,
doesn't
work
and
that
she's
going
out
on
a
limb
taking
a
chance
on
us
and
she
went
out
on
a
limb
and
took
a
chance
and
we
enjoyed
the
project
over
there.
And
it's
been.
It's
been
remarkable
and
she's
been
a
just.
A
great
asset
to
work
with
the
park
is
almost
complete
and
we
continue
to
work
on
it
and
make
progress.
E
But
for
me
personally,
like
there's
been
a
number
two
project
and
that
was
Punta
Gorda
and
Bloom
and
Joan
really
went
out
on
a
limb
and
backed
us
up
on
Punta,
Gorda
and
Bloom.
And
hopefully
you
can
see
our
work
downtown
in
the
planters
and
we've
we've
made
real
progress,
and
that
was
quite
an
ordeal.
We
started
at
Hector
square
and
we
had
to
get
State
approval
as
well
as
city
council
approval
to
do
Marion,
but
we're
making
progress
and
we
continue
to
grow.
E
One
project
at
a
time
because
she's
just
been
a
tremendous
asset,
helped
us
in
every
way
helped
us
in
every
way
getting
getting
things
done
and
projects
approved,
and
it's
just
been
been
tremendous,
so
I
can't
say
enough
about
her
I
thank
Council
for
working
with
us,
but
Joan
has
been
a
blessing
to
me
and
just
a
real
asset.
Thank
you.
So
much
Joyce.
F
I'm
Joyce,
lawbach
and
I'd
just
like
to
add
that,
although
it
was
the
PGI
green
thumbs
that
initiated
this
particular
Proclamation,
we
really
represent
a
number
of
groups
in
the
community,
some
of
which
are
represented
here
today.
Who
came
because
they
saw
that
during
this
honor
for
Joan
was
on
the
agenda.
So
it's
remarkable
to
me
that
of
all
of
her
many
responsibilities
in
the
city
everyone
I
talked
to
from
these
various
groups
felt
like
they
were
special
because
of
Jones
assistance
and
guidance
that
she
gave
to
them.
B
F
We
were
honored
yesterday
to
have
the
park
evaluated
by
the
County
extension
service,
their
Florida
friendly
Specialists
came.
There
are
nine
principles
of
florida-friendly
landscaping
that
I
urge
you
all
to
look
into
because
they
reflect
important
guidance
for
you
in
your
personal
gardening
experience
to
help
our
environment
and
we
were
certified
as
a
gold
level,
which
is
the
highest
level
of
florida-friendly
landscaping
for
the
Nature
Park.
G
B
I
Thank
you,
Kristen
Simeone,
Finance,
director
I'm
pleased
to
present
the
annual
comprehensive
financial
report
for
fiscal
year
ended,
September,
30th
2022,
we
did
receive
a
clean
opinion
and
I
did
want
to
point
out
that
we
did
Implement
some
new
pronouncements
from
the
governmental,
Accounting
Standards
Board
regarding
lease
accounting.
So
there
was
new
lease
receivables
and
deferred
outflows
related
to
that
for
leases,
where
the
city
was
the
less
sore.
I
We
also
added
on
Capital
entries
for
right
to
use
assets
which
were
for
where
the
city
is
the
lessee,
so
it's
mainly
copiers
and
things
like
that
if
they
met
our
Capital
threshold
of
five
thousand,
the
city's
net
position
increased
overall
12.2
million
and
again
some
of
that
is
part
of
our
planned
use
of
funds
for
construction
projects
and
the
effects
from
Hurricane
Ian
will
be
reflected
in
the
coming
year.
I
So
again
it
happened
right
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and
we're
still
working
through
a
lot
of
all
that
I
am
pleased
to
present.
Also
we
have
Tony
Smith
and
Jeff
Brown
from
Ashley
Brown
and
Smith
CPAs.
Who
was
our
auditing
firm
and
they
can
answer
any
questions,
or
they
may
have
a
few
words
to
say
as
well.
J
Good
morning
I'm
Jeff
Brown,
as
Kristen
mentioned,
we
don't
really
have
a
formal
presentation,
but
just
wanted
to
be
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
that
you
may
have
and
then
also
just
express
our
appreciation
and
professionalism
for
your
staff.
As
you
know,
they
do
a
great
job,
presenting
everything
in
accordance
with
gasby
that
she
mentioned.
J
There
was
a
couple
new
standards
that
came
out
this
year,
but
they
took
the
lead
on
that
and
did
a
great
job
with
implementing
that
to
keep
everybody
in
accordance
with
what
we're
supposed
to
be
doing
so
again,
clean
opinion
clean
audit,
nothing
that
that
you
all
need
to
be
to
be
aware
of
so
and
then
also
the
certificate.
As
you
know,
I
forget
how
many
years
is
that,
so
that
also,
as
part
of
this
is
you're
submitting
to
the
the
Nate
the
Nationwide
to
receive
that
certificate
from
the
gfoa.
K
H
There's
a
lot
of
hard
work
that
goes
into
this
and
we
appreciate
the
objectivity
of
our
Auditors
and
certainly
the
work
that
staff
does,
because
when
you
look
through
this,
if
you
really
want
to
go
into
detail
on
what's
happening
in
the
city,
it's
in
here
absolutely.
J
B
Okay,
before
we
begin
the
public
input,
part
of
the
meeting
I
do
have
some
housekeeping
notes
to
read
into
the
record.
It
should
be
noted
that
a
public
input
is
a
time
for
residents
to
express
their
comments
to
the
city
council
on
any
issue
and
the
only
item
that
will
be
a
separate
item
that
will
have
public
comment
on
this
agenda
is
item
3A,
which
will
be
a
quasi-judicial
hearing
when
we
get
to
that.
B
So
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
going
to
read
the
procedures
for
public
comments,
make
sure
all
your
personal
devices
are
silenced.
Please,
as
this
meeting
is
being
recorded,
and
it
disrupts
the
proceedings
when
phones
go
off
during
the
meeting.
There's
a
Code
of
Conduct
in
the
council
chambers,
members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
rules
on
the
screen
and
I.
Believe
it's
the
frame
in
front
of
us
members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
the
council
should
use
the
guest
Podium
at
the
center
of
the
room.
B
The
podium
to
the
right
of
the
stage
is
for
staff
and
applicant
presentations
only
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record.
If
it
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing,
you'll
be
sworn
in
before
the
hearing
begins
and
you'll
have
to
state
your
name
and
that
you've
been
sworn
in
when
you
come
to
the
podium.
Each
person
has
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
B
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause,
sidebar
conversations
or
booing
before
during
or
after
each
speaker.
B
Please
refrain
from
talking
in
the
audience
during
the
meeting
a
copy
of
any
supporting
documents
you
wish
to
display
during
the
meeting
must
be
provided
to
the
city
clerk
and
they
become
part
of
the
permanent
record.
The
citizen
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
This
is
for
citizen
comments.
Only
and
council
members
should
refrain
from
answering
impromptu
questions
or
debating
issues
with
members
of
the
public.
B
M
Hi
good
morning,
I'm,
Alexia,
Martin
and
I'm,
the
owner
of
whitco
insurance
and
I've,
actually
applied
for
the
position
for
the
Housing
Authority
for
the
Punta
Gorda
I
have
been
a
resident
of
Punta
Gorda
for
a
little
over
almost
17
years
and
I
own
a
business
here
in
Punta
Gorda
as
well,
and
I
would
like
to
be
considered
from
the
city
council
to
be
a
member
of
that
particular
board,
because
I
feel
I
would
have
value
to
this
particular
board
position
and
also
for
the
city.
Thank.
B
N
B
O
B
O
Yeah
anyways,
like
I,
said
my
name
is
Patrice
petrick
and
I
am
here
to
introduce
myself.
I
have
put
in
an
application
for
the
City
Planning
Commission
I've
lived
in
Punta
Gorda,
since
2017.
I
came
here
from
the
Tampa
Bay
area
and
fell
in
love
and
I
just
carry
on
I've
owned
my
own
business,
since
1994
I
do
interior
design
and
Architectural
design.
O
That's
what
I
specialize
in
I
think
my
professional
skill
set
would
definitely
help
with
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
sense
of
contract,
mediation,
budget
and
project
management,
strategic
planning,
blueprint,
reading
and
team
membership
and
adapt
ability
to
work
with
others.
So
you
guys
might
want
to
you
know,
have
a
thought
in
your
mind.
Why
would
I
really
want
to
come
on
to
this
position
and
and
I've
thought
about
this?
O
For
a
couple
years,
I
have
actually
been
on
the
other
side
of
the
Planning
Commission
when
I
lived
in
the
Tampa
area,
with
many
clients
trying
to
get
their
projects
approved.
So
I
do
understand
the
process
quite
well,
so
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time
today.
I
hope
you
will
appreciate
and
accept
me
as
a
position
on
the
sport
the
voting
position,
please
thank
you.
Thank.
B
You,
okay:
is
there
anyone
else
that
has
submitted
their
name
for
a
border
committee
seat
that
would
like
to
introduce
themselves
okay,
seeing
none.
This
will
then
open
up
the
public
input
section
of
the
meeting
and
ma'am
you
may
come
to
the
podium
first,
if
you'd,
all
please
line
up
if
you're
going
to
be
making
public
comments
who
want
to
keep
the
meeting
moving.
B
N
Again,
my
name
is
Rosa
frischa
and
I've
lived
here
over
30
years
and
I
love
it
here,
but
I
am
making
a
suggestion.
I'm
very
passionate
about
recycling
I
have
been
all
these
years.
Until
now
we
have
downsized
from
our
house
on
Colony
Point
to
Bal
Harbor
Place
on
Bal,
Harbor,
Boulevard
and
I
have
come
to
see
that
people
throw
food
and
plastic
bags
inside
the
recycling
bins
and
that
renders
them
unrecyclable.
N
But
besides
that,
lately
I
have
been
reading
and
consumer
reports.
In
2021
they
reported
only
eight
percent
gets
recycled.
One
I
had
a
friend
I
played
Mahjong
with.
There
was
like
a
group
of
eight
of
us
that
got
together
and
I
saw
at
the
end
of
the
evening
when
I
was
helping
her
clean
up
that
she
was
throwing
these
plastic
bottles
in
the
garbage
and
I
said.
Don't
you
recycle
them?
She
says
no,
they
they
go
into
the
landfill.
I
said:
oh,
come
on
yeah.
N
She
says
her
husband
was
a
CEO
of
a
recycling
firm
before
they,
he
retired,
and
they
moved
down
here.
She
says
they
don't
recycle.
Very,
very
little.
I
thought
she
was.
You
know.
Just
saying
that
to
cover
the
to
make
an
excuse,
but
then
I
read
the
Smithsonian
Magazine,
the
the
May
9th
2022
issue
that
they're
reporting
similar
statistics.
Only
eight
percent
Bill
Maher
had
a
little
clip
on
YouTube
I
happened
to
see
it
and
it
was
about
his
show
new
rural
climate
shame.
N
He
said
only
five
percent
gets
recycled
due
to
people
not
doing
it
properly,
and
we
have
put
signs
our
at
the
condo
complex
where
I
live.
The
president
put
signs
on
top
of
the
bins
stating
exactly
in
big
letters,
very
professional
looking
and
he
covered
it
with
plastic.
What
they
can
and
can
you
know
what
they
can
recycle
or
can't
go
in?
Do
they
listen,
no
Okay?
N
So
in
on
that
Bill
Maher
that
clip,
he
said
that
in
46
years,
from
1973
to
2019,
pollution
has
decreased
by
only
one
percent,
so
Recycling
and
I
read.
This
is
just
a
feel-good
measure
by
the
the
Plastics
manufacturers
who
want
you
to
feel
like
everything
is
being
recycled.
You
feel
good
about
using
plastic,
but
that's
not
so
it's
not
happening
and
we
waste
water
when
we
clean
out
these
containers.
So
we're
throwing
away
our
money
into
the
into
landfill,
with
the
garbage
and
and
we're
not
recycling
so
I'm
thinking.
N
Maybe
we
should
do
what
some
other
towns
do
like
in
Deltona
Florida.
They
dispense
with
recycling
because
that
the
people
retired
of
paying
high
taxes.
N
N
K
Tom
excuse
me
Tom
weeks,
Punta,
Gorda
and
I
wanted
to
comment
on
the
new
ldrs
Punta
gorda's
kind
of
the
current
ldrs
allow
for
all
manner
of
things
and
when
a
developer
comes
to
town
and
proposes
all
manner
of
things,
people
get
very
upset
and
the
developer
is
shocked.
K
I
like
the
new
ldrs
and
because
there's
less
wiggle
room,
they
reflect
more.
What
people
are
going
to
want.
My
only
question
is:
is
that
in
residential
parking
it's
showing
building
of
65
feet
is
one
and
a
quarter.
80
feet
is
one
and
a
half.
It
seems
to
me,
like
the
last
City
Marketplace
presentation,.
K
It
was
one
per
dwelling
unit
and
people
got
very
upset
and
they
thought
it
more
seen
more
normal
to
have
two
parking
places
for
dwelling
unit,
because
people
have
more
than
one
car
and
usually
there's
more
than
one
person
living
in
a
dwelling
unit,
but
and
also
I,
like
the
setbacks
for
taller
buildings.
I
am
not
an
urban
planner
I.
Don't
pretend
to
know
anything
about
her
urban
planning
other
than
I
know
that
usually
there's
more
than
one
car
per
dwelling
in
it.
Thank
you.
Q
And
I
am
here
today:
I
want
to
address
you
guys
on
the
agenda
item
6f
pertaining
to
the
ldrs
15
of
the
world's
population
lives
with
an
impairment
including
me.
Our
demographics
show
that
most
of
our
citizens
are
over
65
at
which
is
an
age
where
Mobility
is
like
likely
to
become
an
issue.
Some
of
you
on
Council
may
not
have
reached
that
point
yet,
but
it
it's
awful
to
get
older.
Q
Q
Safety
of
Shoppers
and
commuting
citizens
is
at
risk
and
a
definite
problem.
If
you're
disabled
I
would
appreciate
your
consideration
of
instead
of
putting
it
in
for
five
foot,
sidewalks
put
it
in
for
10
foot
wide
sidewalks
in
the
downtown
Corridor.
Okay,
residential
is
fine
but
downtown
corridor.
All
these
people
walking
it
excuse
me
and
I'm.
Q
The
extra
I'm
I'm
also
saying
that
with
the
25
foot
setback
which
I'm
asking
for
all
the
citizens
lived
by
that
in
the
chapter,
26
overlay
District.
So
if
I'm
asking
for
10
that
extra
15
foot
could
be
for
green
space,
allow
for
Cafe
tables
to
sit
out
there,
so
people
don't
have
to
walk
around
them
and
those
in
wheelchairs
and
whatnot
don't
have
to
meander
around
those
tables.
Q
Our
city.
In
your
documents
in
2017,
we
adopted
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
and
a
transition
plan,
and
I
will
remember
speaking
to
one
of
you
council
members
about
that.
I
was
very
appreciative
of
the
fact
that
we
we,
as
Punta
Gorda,
were
going
to
acclimate
our
city
for
people
with
disabilities.
So
I
know
it
was
a
five-year
plan
and
I.
Thank
you
for
looking
at
that.
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
Janine
Polk
and
I'm,
a
stakeholder
in
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
I'd
like
to
discuss
agenda
item
6f
Land
Development
regulations
formed
base
codes
draft
in
reading.
Through
some
of
the
information
provided.
I
noticed,
there
are
two
types
of
amendments:
there
are
qualitative
amendments
and
they're
a
quantitative
amendments.
Under
the
qualitative
amendments
it
states
quote:
adjust
policies
to
fit
Community
needs
and
priorities.
R
After
looking
through
some
of
the
changes
that
are
being
proposed,
I
have
to
wonder
if
we're
really
looking
at
the
demographics
of
Punta
Gorda.
Overall,
it
looks
like
we
overall,
it
looks
like
we
are,
depending
on
various
modes
of
transportation,
rather
than
a
vehicle
of
some
sort.
Thus
the
lack
of
parking
requirements
for
these
new
developments.
I
know
everyone
here
is
well
aware
of
the
demographics
in
Punta.
Gorda
median
age
is
65..
R
R
Take
a
a
nice
little
ride
over
those
big
hump
Bridges
I
used
to
do
that
as
a
kid.
I
would
never
do
that
now.
So,
furthermore,
we're
we're
we
have
no
transportation
system,
so
the
kind
of
parking
we're
talking
about
in
these
new
ldrs
calls
for
a
transportation
system
to
be
implemented.
We
just
don't
have
that
in
the
transportation
element
dated
October
9,
2020
policy,
7.1.3.4
start
States,
alternative
parking
options,
including
parallel
parking,
surface
parking,
shared
on-site
and
off-site
parking
parking.
R
When
you
reduce
the
downtown
core
requirements
to
one
space
per
1000
square,
feet
of
office,
retail
institutional
medical
government,
buildings
you're,
quite
frankly,
setting
our
city
up
for
failure,
especially
during
the
winter
months,
when
our
Snowbird
friends
are
here,
please
consider
using
the
ite
national
standards
when
developers
come.
Knocking
failure
to
do
so
will
be
a
detriment
to
our
community
and
the
majority
of
the
real
people
who
live
here.
Furthermore,
I
personally
think
the
Waterfront
overlay
district
and
allowing
80
feet
along
with
45
dwelling
units
per
acre
at
with
only
10
foot.
R
S
Pat
Niles
Gateway
point:
it
seems
the
attention's
on
the
Land
Development
regulations,
so
I'll
go
it
right
with
that.
First
I
suggest
to
Residents
new
and
old
that
you
pay
attention
to
the
agenda.
Packets
that
come
along
with
the
agenda,
just
go
to
the
city
website
the
city's
Government
website
and
you
can
find
those
and
I
suggest
you
read
them
and
even
maybe
copy
them
for
your
own
records.
S
S
It
gave
seven
bullet
points
and
it
mentions
small
town
three
times
preserve
and
enhance
historic,
small
town,
self-sufficient
Community
character,
so
I'll
also
be
seeing
how
you
do
your
voting
on
things
with
that
boating
boating
has
now
evolved
into
a
waterfront
Community
discussion
when
Punta
Gorda
was
originally
established.
There
were
two
Canal
districts
PGI
which
had
90
miles,
which
has
90
miles
of
sea
walls.
That's
where
you
can
put
all
your
boats
if
you're
a
homeowner
or
a
condo
owner
BSI
had
18
miles
of
sea
walls
for
space.
S
For
you
to
be
able
to
put
your
boats
homeowners
when
they
do
have
their
boats
are
responsible
voters.
They
don't
show
up
here
to
have
a
good
time,
get
drunk,
take
a
fentanyl
or
anything
else.
Parties
on
their
boats.
They
are
logged
into,
are
sitting
under
our
tax
base,
so
that
was
a
great
when
we
originally
set
up
Punta
Gorda
and
we
certainly
have
a
lot
of
boating.
One
of
you
on
the
city
council
I
appreciate
that
you
do
have
where
you
encourage
to
read
your
ideas.
S
L
Hi
Jeff
lustig
golf
carts,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
deal
with.
You
get
two
for
one
with
a
parking
space,
and
if
we
had
golf
cart
lanes
for
people
in
the
islands,
that
would
be
a
way
of
of
transporting
people
back
and
forth,
especially
be
clean
for
the
environment.
It
would
cut
down
on
on
traffic.
L
Many
you
know,
look
at
The,
Villages,
look
at
maybe
take
examples
from
them.
My
other
suggestion
was
two
family
houses.
I
mean
we
all
lived
up
north,
where
you
had.
The
people
in
the
bottom
were
downstairs
and
could
help
with
the
taxes
and
help
with
the
upkeep
of
the
property.
Especially
you
know,
as
we
get
older
I
would
be
very
you
know
it
would
keep
up
with
inflation.
The
and
also
now,
with
the
new
businesses
coming
in
I,
mean
they're,
giving
ten
thousand
dollar
bounties
per
year
to
work
at
the
hotel.
L
We
need
workers
and
we
need
young
families
who
need
to
rent
and,
if
there's
something
that
the
the
the
tax
planners
can
do
here
to
incentivize,
that
that
would
be
really
great,
maybe
give
them
a
lot
extension
or
something
I
don't
know.
And
finally,
it
is
important
to
think
about
that.
We're
all
well
I
know
that
I'll
be
disabled
in
about
10
years.
L
I
have
Parkinson's
disease,
and
that's
really
as
important
to
think
about
for
the
community
we're
all
going
to
get
older,
we're
all
going
to
you
know
on
the
cruise
ships
we're
called
cones,
because
we
walk
really
slow
and
people
have
to
walk
around
us,
so
we're
all
eventually
going
to
have
that
possibility.
So
we
really
need
Urban
Design
to
make
it
easier
for
us
to
enjoy
the
downtown
and
the
parks.
Thank
you
very
much.
T
T
T
U
My
name
is
Mike
Polk
and
I'm
here
to
speak
on
the
proposed
parking
requirements
for
the
ldrs
parking
requirements
you
propose
are:
substandard
will
only
increase
the
parking
problems
we
already
have
downtown.
The
proposed
requirement
of
one
space
for
a
thousand
square
feet
of
retail
would
result
in
a
new
building
being
functional
obsolete
at
Co.
U
You
only
have
to
look
across
the
bridge
at
the
Pioneer
Pizza
location
to
see
what
impact
a
restaurant
and
retail
Plaza
has.
Restaurants
need
a
minimum
of
10
spaces
per
thousand
square
feet.
So
if
you
ever
propose
ten
thousand
square
foot
building
under
your
proposed
parking
scenario-
and
you
lease
one
space
to
a
restaurant,
you
have
used
all
your
parking
lot
for
one
all
your
parking
for
one
tenant,
so
your
only
alternative
is
not
to
lease
restaurants.
U
However,
there
are
the
most
prevalent
use
in
the
city
and
do
the
impact
of
the
big
box
space
and
the
internet
there's
little
demand
for
local
retail
space.
Other
examples
that
are
deficient
include
a
4
000
square
foot
Warehouse,
with
no
parking
or
retail
building
under
1500
square
feet
with
no
parking.
There
are
also
no
Provisions
for
parking
for
outdoor
seating.
Anyone
trying
to
develop
to
these
standards
will
likely
have
pushback
from
local
lending
institution
in
regards
to
financing
as
parking
is
an
issue
that
is
addressed
and
red
flag
in
the
appraisal
process.
U
The
very
building
we
are
in
today
was
built
without
adequate
parking
because
it
was
a
special
use
and
now
it's
functionally
obsolete
and
will
likely
be
demolished
before
its
useful
life
is
over.
These
parking
requirements
are
a
thinly
veiled
attempt
to
enhance
the
development
potential.
The
City
Marketplace
parcel
the
same
parcel
that
the
owners
won't
even
disclose
the
list
price
to
the
general
public
for
fear.
It
will
be
held
against
them
for
rezoning
or
that
the
property
appraiser
might
raise
their
assessed
value.
U
I
appraised,
a
parcel
for
Fifth
Third
Bank
when
they
foreclosed
on
it
and
I
know
how
much
the
current
owner
paid
for.
They
have
held
this
property
for
over
a
decade
through
a
time
that
was
very
conducive
for
development,
with
some
of
the
lowest
interest
rates
of
all
time
and
the
property
still
wasn't
developed.
U
They
want
you
to
think
it
wasn't
developed
because
of
the
nimbies
but
in
reality,
wasn't
developed
because
of
greed,
if
you
believe
the
claims
of
a
local
land
use
attorney
that
the
price
of
the
site
has
no
impact
on
its
Financial
feasibility.
You
are
too
naive
to
be
in
the
position
on
this.
Council
attorneys
aren't
experts.
They
are
Advocates.
You
can't
force
development
to
happen.
It
takes
the
right
development
concept,
with
adequate
parking
and
the
right
economic
environment.
U
For
a
project
of
the
skill
that
you
are
hoping
for
to
succeed,
no
one
is
going
to
develop
the
site
in
the
next
two
years,
with
the
current
interest
rate
levels
and
inflation
rates
at
40
years
highs.
I
caution,
you
you
don't
want
a
functioning
obsolete
building
on
that
site
and
that's
what
you're
going
to
have
with
the
standards
you're
proposing
what
the
city
needs
on
that
site
is
a
building
that
is
self-sustaining.
U
V
I've
been
following
the
Land
Development
regulations
for
a
number
of
years
now,
just
like
a
number
of
you
as
well
and
I
guess:
I'm,
just
looking
at
it
from
a
distance,
maybe
the
30
000
foot
level,
buzzwords
de
jour
is
a
community
benefits
or
is
it
mitigation?
V
V
Access
medication-
I
guess,
I-
want
to
end
this
with
just
a
recognition
of
the
ability
that
Urban
Development
is
shown
over
the
past
few
years
and
I
want
to
give
some
credit
here
to
Joan
as
well
too,
to
keeping
her
head
above
and
her
staff
above
and
to
be
able
to
respond
to
the
various
directions
that
the
city
council
has
directed
her.
So
I
will
miss
Joan
and
I'm
sure
most
all
of
us
will
thank
you.
Thank.
B
X
B
X
My
name
is
Bob
Seifert
I
live
in
district,
one
where
all
these
ldrs
are
aimed
at
and
I'd
like
to
speak
to.
To
that
point,
I
applaud
the
desired
and
to
reflect
the
citizens
concern
in
the
building
Heights
in
downtown,
but
I'm
concerned
that
the
economic
feasibility
won't
be
there
for
our
Builders
we
can't
afford.
Nor
do
we
want
another
18
years
of
vacant,
acreage
in
our
downtown
core.
The
January
2023
proposal
80
feet
all
in
results
in
one
less
habitable
floor
than
what
is
in
our
current
ldrs.
X
X
X
It
looks
like
somebody
dropped
the
shoe
box
right
in
our
city,
so
I
would
hope
that
we
will
have
some
requirement
of
Ruth
enhancements
and
and
the
80
foot
all
in
would
do
away
with
that,
because
the
Builder
will
have
to
use
every
available
space
to
to
sell
he.
He
won't
have
any
enhancement
on
the
top.
X
B
X
Ldrs,
which
exclude
both
the
base,
flood
elevation
and
the
roof
enhancement,
give
the
greatest
chance
of
us
to
to
increase
our
Downtown
Development.
That
is
both
economically
feasible.
It
reflects
the
community
desires
and
the
building
will
have
interesting
architectural
features
to
contribute
to
our
charm
and
positive
economy
of
our
city.
X
It
has
been
said
by
many
speakers
that
we
don't
want
to
look
like
Fort
Myers.
When
you
come
over
the
closet,
Bridge,
you
see
those
big
tall
buildings.
Those
buildings
aren't
100
feet
tall
like
our
Justice
Center.
There
are
300
and
400
feet
tall
I.
Your
decision
today
will
have
a
very
long
lasting
effect.
We've
had
20
years
of
vacancy.
That's
probably
the
last
time
we
changed
our
comp
plan
and.
A
X
Very
carefully
of
what
you
do,
because
it
will
have
a
lasting
impact.
Thank
you
for
your
careful
consideration.
Y
Jerry
waxler
mcclory
Law
Firm,
representing
PGA
Marketplace
LLC
here
on
behalf
of
6f.
The
proposed
development
standards
create
more
questions
than
they
answer.
For
example,
height
is
measured
from
ground
level.
How
is
ground
level
going
to
be
defined?
The
existing
elevation
on
City
Marketplace
ranges
from
3.9
to
5.3
feet,
which
elevation
do
you
use?
The
policy
discourages
parking
under
your
buildings,
because,
if
you
do
that
it
cuts
into
the
area
that
you
have
available
for
your
habitable
floor
space.
Is
that
what
you
intend?
Y
Y
Buildings:
what's
the
height
limit
for
those
The
Proposal
assigns
different
densities
to
different
height
buildings?
Will
this
be
calculated
just
on
the
area
of
the
building
itself?
We'll
include
the
parking
areas
or
recreational
areas,
pick
a
density
for
your
downtown
core,
including
the
Main
Street
overlay,
and
have
that
density
be
calculated
as
it
is
on
every
other
property
in
the
city
on
the
basis
of
gross
acreage
across
the
whole
parcel.
Let
the
developer
decide
how
to
allocate
density
among
its
buildings,
not
the
city.
Y
The
Main
Street
overlay
area
has
no
ability
to
mitigate
to
achieve
increased
Heights.
That
means
that
the
front
half
of
the
Event
Center
parking
lot
along
where
to
Esplanade
is
limited
to
50
feet,
measured
from
the
ground.
All
in
can
you
build
an
adequate
and
desperately
needed
parking
garage
on
the
Event
Center
property
if
those
constraints
are
in
place.
Most
disturbing
is
that
the
proposal
is
based
on
emotions,
not
on
facts
or
reality.
The
standards
ignore
Punta
gorda's
economic
reality.
You
desperately
need
the
tax
revenue
that
commercial
and
apartment
development
will
bring.
Y
Yet
the
proposed
development
standards
won't
allow
your
remaining
Downtown
Development
sites
to
develop
the
standards,
ignore
the
parking
reality
1.5
spaces
per
dwelling
unit
is
the
right
number
for
multi-family
buildings,
but
you
have
to
make
all
spaces
above
one
dwelling,
one
per
drawing
unit
available
to
the
public
for
10
hours
per
day.
Aside
from
whether
or
not
that
constitutes
a
taking,
the
reality
is
that
you
can't
develop
residential
uses.
If
you
can't
guarantee
that
your
residents
will
have
a
parking
space
available
whenever
they
need
it.
Y
Most
importantly,
the
standards
do
not
take
into
account
the
fiscal
reality
of
Development
Council
Members
I,
confidentially
shared
with
each
of
you
actual
Pro
Forums
from
two
developers
who
considered
City
Marketplace.
Both
projects
were
in
excess
of
150
million
dollars,
both
required
financing
financing
requires
that
you
show
cash
flow
to
cover
payments
and
a
rate
of
return
of
about
six
to
seven
percent
per
year.
Y
The
mixed
use
projects
that
this
County
dreamed
of
returned
less
than
three
percent
per
year
over
10
years
and
could
only
cash
flow
if
it
charged
commercial
rents
higher
than
any
found
in
Punta,
Gorda
or
the
county.
The
other
provided
a
sufficient
return,
but
was
a
cram
and
jam
requiring
that
every
inch
of
the
City
Marketplace
be
covered
with
residential
buildings.
No
mixed
use
no
open
space,
no
public
areas.
Y
Reality
requires
60
units
per
acre,
gross
density
and
80
foot
of
height,
measured
the
same
same
way:
you've
been
measuring
height
for
the
past
25
years
from
base
flood
to
the
Thai
Beam,
with
exclusions
for
pitch
troops,
decorative
elements
and
necessary
elements
like
elevator
shafts.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Z
Good
morning
for
the
record,
Todd
Rebel
with
Banks
Engineering,
although
I
am
an
engineer
by
trade
I'm,
here
speaking
to
you
today
as
a
resident
who
lives
in
the
city,
big
decisions
ahead
of
you
today,
a
lot
of
good
conversation,
I've
also
learned
in
my
career
to
make
sure
you
follow
the
right
speakers
and
so
I'm
going
to
say
that
I
support
Jerry,
Wagner
and
Bob
Seifert
in
their
positions.
I,
don't
completely
disagree
with
Mike,
Polk
I.
Think
parking
is
an
issue.
It
is
a
balance.
Z
I've
worked
on
all
kinds
of
types
of
projects
in
my
career
and
good
developers
know
what
kind
of
parking
they
need
to
sustain
their
project
because
ultimately
they
have
to
lease
that
that
building
or
sell
it,
and
so
it's
a
balance
with
what
they
have
to
do
as
a
developer
and
an
investor
I
just
recommend
to
the
city
to
put
up
basically
the
bowling
alley,
bumper
cushions
and
let
them
try
to
navigate
through
there's
a
lot
of
costs
when
you
get
in
the
blood
and
guts
of
these
projects
that
none
of
us
can
completely
understand
until
you
see
them.
Z
I
learn
stuff
every
day
on
projects
because
I,
don't
know
everything
and
it's
a
lot
to
put
in,
especially
on
a
project
like
City
Marketplace.
That's
got
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
a
lot
of
phasing
and
a
lot
of
investment,
so
with
that
I
do
recommend,
specifically
the
height
change
to
going
to
base
flood
elevation.
Thank
you.
AA
AB
AA
AB
Good
morning,
Lisa
Hannan
zoning,
official
and
I
have
been
sworn
Urban.
Design
staff
we'd
like
to
enter
our
staff
report
into
the
record
in
its
entirety.
By
reference
and
as
stated,
this
is
just
a
preliminary
plot
review
for
this
property.
It's
the
Seco
property,
which
was
previously
approved
with
the
plan
development,
it's
west
of
Taylor
north
of
Jones
Loop
Road,
approximately
a
little
over
28
Acres
they're,
proposing
144
Lots
single-family
attached
dwellings.
Again
this
was
rezoned
to
plan
development
neighborhood
in
2022.,
so
this
shows
the
boundary
lines.
AB
This
is
part
of
the
preliminary
plot
requirements.
It
shows
the
boundary
lines
the
streets
streets
will
be
privately
built
and
maintained.
There
will
be
access
from
Jones,
Loop,
Road
and
Taylor
Road
street
names
were
approved
by
the
fire
marshal
and
myself.
Wits
are
indicated
on
the
plat
utility
and
drainage.
Easements
are
indicated
on
the
plot
other
sites,
the
parks
and
public
amenities
are
indicated
on
the
site.
We
have
all
the
site,
data
and
number
of
lots
and
the
title
scale
North
Arrow
date
have
all
been
provided.
AB
So
more
of
the
preliminary
plot
requirements.
Infrastructure
improvements
such
as
the
horizontal
construction
of
your
water
and
their
water
Wastewater
drainage
improvements
does
require
development
review
approval
that
is
running
concurrently.
With
this
preliminary
plot
and
protective
covenants,
the
draft
has
been
submitted.
AB
It
is
in
compliance
with
the
city's
chapter
28
subdivisions
for
the
144
single-family
attached,
buildable
Lots,
section
28-23,
where
cars
submittal
of
a
DRC
plan
for
the
horizontal
construction,
the
infrastructure
improvements
that
is
running
concurrently.
All
the
other
findings
are
part
of
the
requirements
with
the
street
with
block
length,
the
zoning
lot
sizes
conformance
with
Comprehensive
plan,
and
it
will
require
final
Platinum
metal
at
a
later
date.
AB
AB
again,
the
property
was
rezoned.
It
was
approved
in
2023
change
from
Highway
commercial
to
plan
development,
neighborhood
and
the
lot
sizes
are
acceptable
for
the
single
family
attached
development,
consistent
with
our
comprehensive
plan,
as
stated
in
the
policy
future
land
use
policies,
1.1.11.1
and
1.1.15.1,
objective,
1.1.15,
Recreation
and
open
space
policy,
5.1.2.2
Public,
Schools,
element
policies,
8.1.2.3
8.1.2.6,
intergovernmental
coordination,
objective
9.1.1.
AB
AC
AB
That
is
up
to
their
developer
and
engineer.
We
did
not
require
them.
We
recommended
it
that
was
taken
off
the
table
due
to
the
cost
to
bring
Indian
Springs
Road
up
to
proper
standards.
AB
B
You
any
other
questions.
I
do
have
one
question,
and
that
is
I
know
the
answer
to
this
already,
but
for
the
record,
when
we
approved
the
CDD
at
the
last
meeting,
the
approval
was
for
368
total
units,
including
the
seagrass
project,
on
the
South
Side.
So
there's
the
numbers
are
not
in
sync
with
each
other.
Yes,.
AD
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
AA
There
is
a
there
is
a
legal
distinction
between
what
they're
entitled
to
in
the
grants,
gain
of
things
and
then
what
they're
asking
for
and
and
when
you
approve
what
they're
asking
for
they're
going
to
be
capped
at
that
approval,
notwithstanding
what
they
might
otherwise
be
entitled
to
so
well,
it
sounds
like
one
of
the
same
thing:
it's
clearly
distinguishable
and
if
I
might
Lisa,
can
you
identify
the
conditions
for
approval
that
you
that
you
mentioned
in
your
staff
report.
AB
B
AC
Any
other
questions
question
that
came
up
that
was
asked
of
me
when
a
subdivision
is
being
approved.
I
believe
they
have
to
do
a
traffic
study,
correct.
AB
AC
The
question
that
was
proposed
to
me
is
when,
because
this
is
a
couple,
different
entities
that
are
basically
all
in
one
when
a
traffic
study
is
done,
is
it
done
specifically
just
for?
In
other
words,
that
was
just
done
for
seaco,
and
then
there
might
have
been
another
traffic
study
done
for
another.
Are
they
all
separate
or.
A
AB
Well,
they
eat
they
come
in
individually.
So
normally
our
principal
planner
and
our
our
engineering
take
a
look
at
the
traffic
studies.
AD
Z
Yes,
okay
for
the
record,
toddry
wolf,
Banks,
Engineering
I
have
been
sworn.
We
have
received
the
staff
report
and
we
share
on
their
findings.
I
am
available
for
any
questions,
but
I
can
address
the
traffic
which
does
go
through
DRC.
It's
not
part
of
the
subdivision
process.
Subdivision
process
is
a
basically
a
whole
separate
deal
just
to
actually
show
the
division
of
the
land
traffic
impact.
Statements
are
done
on
an
individual
basis
because
you
have
to
do
warrants
for
each
access
point
specific
to
that
project.
Z
There's
a
background
traffic
that
you
work
out
through
the
methodology
with
the
the
city
or
whatever
government
agency
you're
working
with
which
takes
into
account
other
development
in
the
area,
but
it's
very
difficult
to
to
take
two
different
projects
in
two
different
areas,
because
the
reality
is
there's
development
happening
all
over
PGI.
All
these
other
and
that's
a
background
traffic
based
on
you
know,
growth
factors
that
are
calculated
into
the
traffic
traffic
statement
so
but.
Z
B
K
B
AC
AC
B
A
AA
B
AD
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
resolution
approving
the
maintenance
agreement
with
Florida
fdot
for
City
Maintenance
of
fdot
highways
in
the
city
limits.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Okay,
does
anyone
have
anything
that
they
wish
to
pull
from
consent?
This
will
include
the
minutes
from
the
June
7
meeting
invoice
for
Ellen,
Norton
and
blue
invoice
for
icard
Merrell.
AF
B
Have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye,
aye
aye
opposed
motion
occurs
unanimously:
okay,
we'll
move
on
to
the
regular
agenda.
The
next
item
is
the
award
of
amendment
16
to
Corolla
Engineers
Inc
of
Sarasota
Florida,
to
provide
Professional
Services
for
the
design
permitting
and
bidding
assistance
for
the
replation
of
the
replacement
of
the
bulk
Alum
system
at
the
water
treatment
plant.
AG
The
Proposal
received
from
carollo
was
based
on
those
rates
and
it
was
for
the
design
permitting
and
bidding
assistance
for
the
replacement
of
the
existing
bulk
Alum
system
at
the
water
treatment
plant.
The
system
includes
Alum
tanks,
villain
transport
system,
day
tank,
the
feed
system
and
all
the
curtains
as
to
replace
that
system.
The
total
authorization
is
154
460
dollars
and
the
design
and
permitting
will
be
accomplished
within
six
months
of
the
notice
to
proceed
just
as
a
background
for
the
Alum
system.
AG
The
original
one
of
the
tanks
which
is
currently
out
of
service
was
from
the
original
treatment
plant
from
1970
and
that
one
is
currently
out
of
system
and
the
other
tank
that
is
currently
in
use
is
from
1985
when
the
existing
plant
was
constructed,
and
that
is
past
the
end
of
service
end
of
life
service.
So
this
is
to
update
our
services
and
replace
the
system.
B
And
this
was
budgeted
correct,
yes,
I
just
want
to
clarify
one
thing
for
the
public
record,
because
someone
asked
me
a
question
about
this
when
we
do
a
master
agreement
for
any
project
whatever
it
is,
and
this
fact-
and
in
this
instance
it's
Corolla
Engineers-
is
the
master
agreement
which
establishes
the
actual
cost
per
hour
for
any
project
that
will
fall
under
that
project.
Correct.
That's.
B
Okay,
so
because
I
was
asked
this
question,
I
just
want
to
put
it
on
the
record:
it's
not
it's
not
like
what
some
people
may
be
used
to
in
other
career
paths
along
the
way,
but
when
in
city
government,
when
we
do
a
master
agreement
that
serves
as
the
document
we
live
by
for
any
project
that
falls
under
the
auspices
of
that
project,
so
each
project
that
is
listed
as
an
amendment
or
a
change
order
is
part
of
the
overall
Master
agreement.
That
goes
by
the
hourly
rates
that
were
established
by
the
master
agreement.
That.
H
Is
correct,
okay,
and
just
to
further
that
the
master
agreement
is
not
something
that
cost
us
money,
it's
something
that
establishes
these
rates
and
that's
good
because,
as
we
move
into
the
future
and
rates
goes
up,
we
have
guaranteed
rates
with
escalators
that
have
been
pre-negotiated
and
procurement
does
a
great
job
of
that.
So
when
we
have
an
amendment
like
this,
this
is
for
a
specific
project.
It's
not
a
change
order
that
increases
the
cost
of
the
master
agreement,
because
the
master
agreement
simply
establishes
rates.
It
does
not
have
a
cost
to
us.
H
So
what
that
does
then
is
allows
us
to
go
back
to
that
Master
agreement
without
having
the
expense
of
going
the
whole
way
through
a
bidding
process.
The
whole
way
through
a
scope,
putting
it
out
the
bid
getting
the
bids
back
evaluating
the
bids
awarding
the
bids.
This
master
agreement
allows
us
to
already
have
that
predetermined,
determine
the
cost
of
a
Project
based
on
that
negotiation
and
move
it
forward.
So
this
is
not
a
change
order.
It
does
not
increase
any
cost
to
any
agreement
we
have
previously.
AG
B
Sir,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
that
on
the
record,
because
I
know
I've
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
it.
You
know
we
see
all
these
change
orders.
We
see
all
these
amendments.
What
does
that
mean
to
the
city
as
far
as
cost?
So
thank
you.
Okay.
Any
conversation
about
this.
We
just
need
a
motion.
B
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
award
the
amendment
16
to
Corolla
Engineers
of
Sarasota
to
provide
Professional
Services
for
the
design
permitting
and
bidding
assistance
for
the
replacement
of
the
bulk
Alum
system.
I
said
Alum
before
Alum
system
at
the
water
treatment
plant.
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye.
B
AG
Again,
Anaheim
in
procurement
for
the
record.
Currently
the
police
department
uses
a
lot
utilizes
axon
for
vehicle
cameras,
body,
one
worn
cameras,
tasers
and
drones.
The
department
is
requesting
approval
for
the
interview,
room,
equipment
and
software.
These
components
will
use
the
same
evidence
Gathering
and
cloud
system
for
the
interview
room
and
it
will
be
a
part
of
that
same
platform.
AG
The
total
cost
of
the
interview,
room
equipment
and
software
will
be
spread
over
a
five-year
period.
The
agreement
approval
is
required
due
to
the
sole
source
nature
and
the
amount
of
the
award.
The
total
cost
of
the
project
is
58
419.60,
which
is
partially
funded
by
three
different
grants
from
the
Florida
Department
of
Law
Enforcement
for
22
656.
AG
B
Absolutely
agreed:
okay
and
again,
this
was
budgeted
this,
the
the
amount
that
was
provided
by
Grant
funds
is
almost
half
of
the
total
amount.
That's
due
and
the
other
half
is
basically
coming
from
the
police
general
fund,
correct.
H
B
B
G
Good
morning
for
the
record,
Joan
LeBeau,
Urban
Design
director
and
this
study
that
we
are
working
on
it
will
help
us
with
our
comprehensive
plan.
It
will
help
us
with
our
strategic
plan
and
the
services
we
provide
to
the
residents
in
the
past.
We've
only
had
estimates
that
were
Loosely
Based
on
data
that's
available
to
the
regional
planning
Council
and
we've
also
used
a
percentage
of
the
counties
estimated
seasonal
population.
We
have
been
looking
to
do
this
study
over
the
last
17
years
that
I've
worked
here
and
I.
G
AF
I
have
two
questions.
One
is,
and
we
talked
about
this
before
I
think
I.
Would
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
see
if
they
could
include
in
that
study,
not
just
the
population
but
the
or
the
the
residential
population,
but
the
seasonal
population,
because
that's
a
big
driver
in
terms
of
stress
on
our
infrastructure,
we'll.
AF
Great
and
then
then
the
other
one,
and
then
this
is
in
a
a
Slam
against
fcg
FGCU,
but
the
my
advisors
asked
the
question:
why
are
they
qualified
to
do
this?
Only
because
it
goes
to
credibility,
I
mean
if
we're
going
to
do
this
study
we
want
to
have
it
have
some
credibility
when
we
rely
on
it
in
the
future.
So
do
we
have
any
I
mean?
Are
they
they
have
as
special
expertise
in
doing
this,
so
they
have
special
yeah.
AH
For
the
record,
Mitchell
Austin,
Urban
Design,
so
Florida
Gulf
Coast
University
has
a
masters
of
our
Public
public
policy
and
public
administration
school,
and
they
have
within
that
both
bachelors
and
master's
degrees
in
public
policy
and
public
administration,
and
they
have
research
Specialties
in
planning
so
and
demographics,
so
that
this
is
what
this
particular
agreement
is
from
that
that
college
and
the
the
College
is
already.
This
research
arm
has
already
done
this.
A
similar
project
to
this
for
the
city
of
Bonita,
Springs.
H
I
think
I
did
I,
told
me
if
I
can
remember.
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
with
FGCU,
the
schedule
that
is
in
here
is
for
the
project
itself,
not
when
they
collect
the
data.
They
have
data
from
previous
years.
So
when
you
see
a
schedule
that
doesn't
Encompass
the
seasonal
influx,
that's
because
this
is
the
schedule
for
the
project,
not
the
schedule
for
the
data
collection.
H
They
will
take
previous
years
data
collection,
multiple
from
a
local
County
state
and
federal,
and
they
will
aggregate
that
data
to
provide
a
specific
model
for
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
with
the
backup
data
that
we
can
then
use
for
everything
from
Grants
and
traffic
impact
to
our
comp
plan
and
the
additional
information
we
need
to
actually
back
up
the
load
on
the
city
during
their
seasonal
peak
times.
AF
And
just
to
clarify
Joan
I
think
I
said
seasonal
before,
of
course,
this
is
seasonal.
What
I'm,
what
I
was
getting
at
was
like
the
daily
rentals,
the
hotels,
the
airbnbs,
the
people
that
are
here
using
our
our
infrastructure,
but
are
not
actually
residents.
So
we
want
to
capture
the
full-time
residents.
We
want
to
capture
the
seasonal
resonance,
but
I
think
we
need
to
also
capture
all
the
other
people,
because
I
think
that's
a
pretty
big
number.
AH
AC
I
think
you
just
clarified
so
Greg.
What
you
just
stated
is
that
this
data
can
actually
be
used
to
better
position
ourselves
for
Grants.
Is
that
correct.
H
Can
be
yes
if
it's
a
population-based
grant,
because
we
have
nothing
except
to
census,
to
really
defend
our
population,
which
is
20,
000
people?
Well,
obviously,
20
000
people
doesn't
touch
it
during
season,
so
we
need
something
that
we
can
actually
use.
That's
defendable
on,
statistically
based
that
we
can
then
apply
for
Grants,
based
on
that
population
flux,
because.
AC
I'll
be
honest:
I
was
a
little
on
the
fence
as
to
you
know,
kind
of
what
Mark
was
saying.
You
know
what
kind
of
data
are
we
going
to
get?
Why
couldn't
we
just
do
this
on
our
own
and
how
is
it
going
to
differ,
but
the
fact
that
this
can
actually
specifically
help
us
apply
for
Grants
I
think
really
changes.
My
opinion.
B
I
think
more
even
more
importantly,
it'll
help
us
decide
what
roads
may
need
to
be
expanded
upon
sidewalks
bike
paths.
All
of
those
things
that
are
infrastructure
related.
It
will
help
us
know
a
little
bit
better.
What
we're
looking
at
for
seasonal
demographics,
because
we
don't
know
that
we
have
no
idea
how
many
people
come
here
during
the
months
of
December
through
April.
Basically,
so
you
know,
I
think
I
think
we're
going
to
be
totally
overwhelmed.
H
AA
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
statement
for
the
record
on
on
this
matter.
When
the
agreement
from
the
University
first
came
to
my
my
desk,
it
appeared
to
be
a
standard
form
agreement
that
they
may
use
in
Contracting
with
the
private
sector
for
studies
and
the
and
and
I
I
reviewed
that
and
recommended
that
it
be
modified
into
an
interlocal
agreement.
AA
The
reason
being
that
the
amount
of
the
the
the
project
exceeded,
what
we're
able
to
do
without
having
to
comply
with
the
state
statute
relating
to
competitive,
Professional
Services
negotiations,
but
because
they
because
we
are-
and
they
are
a
governmental
entity.
We
have
the
ability
to
make
use
of
the
State
Statute
relating
to
interlocal
agreements
and
therefore
this
agreement
allows
us
to
avoid
the
necessity
for
competitive
negotiation
and
hopefully
we'll
open
the
door
for
additional
work
that
we
might
be
able
to
do
with
the.
AJ
P
Good
morning,
Melissa
assistant
city
manager,
what
I
have
for
you
today
is
a
draft
of
our
strategic
plan.
We're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
basis
for
the
Strategic
plan
is
go
through
some
of
the
outcomes
and
items
that
are
included
in
it
and
then
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
the
next
steps
are
in
the
in
getting
the
Strategic
plan
adopted.
So
we'll
start
out
with
what
strategic
planning
is
it's
used
to
set
the
overall
goals
for
the
city.
P
P
Some
of
the
things
that
are
included
in
this
year's
strategic
plan
in
this
area
include
implementing
dado
plans
review.
This
is
software
that
will
save
staff
time
and
it'll
add
convenience
for
contractors
transitioning
from
new
hire
orientation
to
employee
onboarding.
This
is
really
going
to
get
our
new
employees
acclimated
with
the
city
they're,
going
to
understand
what
the
vision
and
mission
of
the
city
are
they're
going
to
go
deeper
into
the
other
departments
modeled
after
Citizens
Academy.
P
This
should
increase
employee
retention
by
five
percent
and
then
we're
also
going
to
look
at
automated
and
paperless
invoice
processing.
This
is
time,
saving
decreasing
lost
paperwork
and
better
processing.
Overall,
our
next
area
is
infrastructure.
Sustainability,
easy
for
me
to
say,
maintain
and
enhance
the
city's
infrastructure
to
ensure
efficient
and
effective
Service
delivery
and
quality.
Aesthetic
appeal
apply
best
management
practices
in
infrastructure,
maintenance,
establish
that
five-year
Capital
Improvements
program
and
that
that's
updated
every
year
and
maximize
technology
through
Capital
budgeting
procedures,
Investments
and
learning
opportunities
for
staff.
P
One
of
the
items
under
that
is
going
to
be
the
Henry
Street
crosswalk
study.
That
was
an
item
that
came
out
of
our
sales
tax
committee
as
a
high
priority.
The
areas
that
were
identified
for
the
crosswalks
by
the
committee
apparently
are
not
likely
to
be
sufficient,
so
we
need
to
have
a
study
done
to
show
us
exactly
where
those
Crossings
should
be
placed
to
have
the
desired
effect.
P
Herald
Court
Center
on
the
parking
garage
definitely
needs
some
maintenance
and
we'll
be
hiring
a
consultant
to
tell
us
what
needs
to
be
done
and
take
the
steps
to
get
that
get
the
improvements.
Completed.
Utilities
will
start
construction
of
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
They
will
also
be
starting
an
evaluation
and
Rehabilitation
of
the
water
treatment
plant
and
then
a
big
step
for
technology
is
replacing
our
tablets
that
are
out
in
the
field
with
laptops,
allowing
people
to
connect
directly
to
the
system
remotely.
P
Partnerships,
communication
and
collaboration
promote
partnership
opportunities
with
public
private,
non-profit
organizations,
emphasize
transparency
and
City
operations.
Reporting
and
activities
continue
to
seek
Community
input
and
decision
making
processes
and
diversify
housing
types
through
implementing
selected
recommendations
in
the
2019
planned
Punta
Gorda
Citywide
master
plan
over
the
next
five
years.
P
P
It's
a
model
program
and
we're
very
proud
of
it
and
we'll
continue
that
facilitate
representation
and
communication
between
the
Punta
Gorda
housing
authority
and
Charlotte
County,
affordable
housing,
advisory,
Council
you'll
be
hearing
more
about
that
in
upcoming
meetings
and
then
also.
We
need
to
be
mindful
that
that
2027
sales
tax
committee
is
going
to
be
need
to
be
formed
in
2025.
So
we
have
to
start
getting
our
projects
down
on
paper
and
preparing
the
background
information
for
that.
P
Some
of
the
samp
sampling
of
items
and
success
measures
here,
Implement
a
new
communication
Suite
resulting
in
200
new
subscribers,
we'll
have
that
coming
online
right
away
in
October
of
this
year
and
what
that'll
do
is
it'll,
allow
us
to
seamlessly
email
text
and
I
believe
it
has
a
phone
call
capability
as
well.
If
we
want
to
subscribe
to
that,
we'll
also
continue
to
create
this
city
manager
column
for
the
sun
52
columns
per
year.
P
I
am
assuming
that
the
mayor
would
still
like
to
continue
doing
her
IELTS
life
column
or
whoever
the
mayor
may
be
12
times
per
year.
That's
really
important
for
our
residents
as
well,
and
then
we
will
start
the
process
of
upgrading
our
website
by
researching
and
looking
at
vendor
selection
over
the
next
year.
I.
P
P
For
quality
of
life,
this
is
maintaining
our
City's
high
safety
rating
emergency
response
and
storm
preparations
meeting
all
of
the
water
quality
standards,
supporting
promoting
and
maintaining
the
city's
historic
character
and
continue
planning
and
implementing
climate
change
strategies
that
protect
significant
natural
resources,
support
economic
growth,
improve
protection
of
life
and
property
in
hazardous
areas,
and
some
of
the
the
success
measures
there
will
be
looking
at
housing.
Alternatives
to
meet
Workforce
needs,
considering
annexing
land
for
affordable
housing.
P
AF
I
ask
a
question:
yes,
you
mentioned
annexation
because
that
was
one
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
ask
later
on.
But
since
you
mentioned
that,
do
we
have
a
a
group
within
the
city
that
is
actively
pursuing
annexation.
I
mean,
are
we
going
and
talking
to
people
and
saying
here's?
We
want
to
act
not
just
for
affordable
housing,
but
for
other
things,
I
mean.
B
AI
B
H
H
You
yeah
and
when
we
do
that
we
engage
other
team
members
also,
for
example,
we
look
at
the
actual
Parcels.
We
do
a
complete
tax
analysis
on
that
Kristen
works.
On
that
we
look
at
Urban
Design.
We
look
at
existing
zoning.
What
zoning
could
be,
what
the
implications
are
for
the
annexation
do
a
whole
packet
when
we
get
to
talk
to
the
people.
So
it's
a
very
detailed
informational
meeting.
Not
just
wish
you
would
Annex
it'd
be
great
to
be
in
the
city,
because.
B
P
P
We
will
also
Implement
an
aerial
drone
program.
That's
through
our
Police
Department
that'll,
help
with
large
crowd
safety
issues,
crash,
reconstructions,
capturing
fleeing
suspects
and
assessing
damage
or
needs
for
the
city,
so
we'll
be
able
to
use
that
in
a
variety
of
areas
continue
with
the
youth,
Public,
Safety,
Academy
I
know
all
of
you
are
familiar
with
it,
but
it's
a
week-long
class
where
students
learn
about
police
and
fire
and
we,
the
results
of
that,
will
be
kids
with
a
long-term
interest
in
that
public
safety
area.
Look.
P
So
what's
next
I
I,
provided
you
with
a
draft
of
the
Strategic
plan.
I
want
to
take
any
feedback.
You
have
right
now.
You're
welcome
to
email
me
or
call
me
with
any
comments
that
you
have.
The
public
is
still
very
able
to
submit
comments
at
this
time.
I'll
be
working
on
finalizing
the
Strategic
plan
over
the
rest
of
the
summer.
P
P
I
just
want
to
make
note
that
we
had
one
resident
comment
come
in
via
email
and
it
was
from
a
Mr
Kane,
and
he
wants
to
make
sure
that
we
continue
to
remember
that
there
is
a
large
portion
of
our
community
that
our
bicyclists
and
we
are
a
bicycle
friendly
community
and
to
be
doing
things
along
those
lines
and
I
just
wanted
to.
AF
A
couple
questions
and
comments,
so
one
comment:
I
would
make
I
mean
that
the
Strategic
plan,
I
think,
is
good.
It's
very
well
done.
I
think
it
would
be
a
little
more
robust
if
we
kind
of
highlighted
some
of
the
priorities.
I
mean
we
have
a
list
of
things
that
we've
done
or
that
we're
doing
are
about
to
happen.
AF
You
know,
but
what
are
the
priorities,
because
those
are
going
to
drive
where
we
have
budget
discussions
and
things
like
that
and
then
the
other
question
I
have
kind
of
goes
a
little
bit
along
the
lines
I
asked
about.
Do
we
have
a
team
or
group?
That's
that's
pursuing
annexation.
Do
we
have
a
group
within
the
city
that
is
pursuing
actively
pursuing
development
on
other
properties?
I'm,
not
talking
about
the
marketplace
property.
There's
a
ton
of
lots
here
and
there
that
are
vacant
they're
for
sale.
AF
Are
we
pursuing
the
quaint
shops
and
Galleries
and
and
sidewalk
cafes
on
those
properties,
because
that's
going
to
be
as
much
about
the
character
of
of
Punta
Gorda
as
anything
we
do
on
any
of
the
other,
bigger
properties
and
and
I'm,
just
not
sure.
If
we're,
if
we're
actively
pursuing
that
or
if
we're
just
kind
of
waiting
for
the
market
to
roll
over
and
then
it
happens,
we.
P
Do
that
that
type
of
work
in
collaboration
with
other
organizations-
and
that's
that's
Chamber-
of
Commerce
work
in
a
lot
of
cases
that
in
some
small
instances
it
would
be
something
that
the
economic
development
partnership
would
look
at,
but
we
as
staff,
definitely
do
when
it
comes
to
design
studio.
When
someone
is
interested
in
pursuing
that
type
of
business,
if
I
get
a
lead
in
directly
I
follow
up
with
opportunities
for
people.
There
was
an
ice
cream
shop,
for
example
that
wanted
to
locate
in
Punta
Gorda.
P
AF
H
You're
not
say
we're
like
Melissa,
said
we're
one
Cog
in
that
spoke
in
that
whole
wheel
called
in
the
Machinery,
because
there
are
others
that
are
doing
that.
We
do
not
have
someone.
H
That's
actively
engaged
engaged
in
marketing
the
city
to
bring
in
a
specific
business
or
a
Target,
but
others
do
and
then
we're
part
of
that
team
so
that
we
helped
put
together
the
the
the
packets
that
go
out
to
those
people
they're
trying
to
get
in
so
that
they
can
then
know
who
to
talk
to
come
to
the
city
and
that's
when
we
get
engaged-
and
you
know,
try
to
help,
sell
the
whole
product,
but
not
someone
in
the
city
specifically
actively
engaged
in
a
Target
business
to
attract
them.
Now.
P
I
The
first
fund
is
the
additional
five
cent
gas
tax
fund,
and
this
is
basically
known
as
our
Paving
fund-
it's
Paving
and
bricking.
So
we
propose
you
can
see
what
we
propose
for
total
revenues
and
total
expenditures.
This
fund
would
be
in
balance
and
as
we
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
it's
important
to
note
that
the
gas
tax
gas
taxes
are
estimated
at
293
415
dollars
for
fiscal
year
24,
and
then
we
do
estimate
increases
of
approximately
two
percent
per
year
for
the
transfer
from
the
general
fund.
I
I
So
again,
this
just
will
help
us
keep
up
with
the
miles
that
need
to
be
replaced
each
year.
So
again,
the
fund
is
balanced,
using
general
fund
ad
valorem
revenues
of
709
000.
H
Basically,
what
that's
saying
is
Project
costs.
Comparatively
gas
tax
is
decreasing
comparative
to
the
project,
calls
escalation
so
we're
having
to
subsidize
more
with
our
general
fund
money
so
that
we
can
maintain
the
level
of
the
programmatic
aspects
of
overlays,
Street,
bricking,
etc.
For
example,
with
the
bricking.
H
We
looked
at
the
specific
cost
of
that,
because
if
we
continue
to
take
it
out
of
our
overlay
program,
now
it's
taking
a
much
larger
portion
say
the
regular
overlay
program
takes
a
hit
and
we
can't
repair
as
many
miles
of
street,
because
we
have
other
cost
increases
that
are
taking
that
money
away.
So
we
need
to
separate
that
out,
look
at
the
total
cost
and
then
increase
that
so
that
we
can
maintain
the
programmatic
aspect
of
our
Street
Maintenance
programs.
AF
I
I
see
that
as
a
real
concern
on
all
of
the
gas
tax
funds,
I
mean
the
the
expenses
are
consistently
exceeding
the
revenues
and
when
you
go
out
in
the
pro
forma,
the
reserves
go
down
to
almost
announcing
and
now
we're
increasing,
more
and
more
out
of
the
general
fund
and
and
we're
only
estimating
two
percent
increase
a
year.
I
mean
just
inflation
is
going
to
be
more
than
that,
so
I
mean
just
looking
out.
I
Right
say
that
I
mean
we're
going
to
go
with
council
meeting,
but
we
like
we
are
having
some
increase
in
interest
income,
because
obviously
interest
rates
were
very
low
over
the
last
many
years
and
it's
finally
going
up
and
we're
at
about
five
percent
interest
rates
right
now
for
interest
income.
B
I
did
have
a
question
asked
of
me
yesterday,
who
decides
what
the
gas
tax
amount
is
going
to
be,
so
we
get
five
cents
a
gallon,
and
then
we
get
six
cents
a
gallon
on
the
other
fund.
Who
decides
is
that
is
that
done
at
the
county
level
at
the
state
level?
Who
decides.
I
So
there's
an
interlocal
agreement
for
one
of
them,
I
believe
it's
the
paving
program
and
then
the
other
one
is
determined
by
population
estimates,
because
we
didn't
have
a
separate
interlocal
agreement
for
that
one,
so
that
one
is
determined
by
the
state
based
on
population
between
the
city
and
the
total
County.
Okay.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome,
Public
Works
did
provide
the
program
for
fiscal
year
24
as
part
of
the
packet
that
was
provided.
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
for
future
years.
I
I
Going
on
to
the
six
cent
gas
tax
fund
you'll,
see
again
in
this
fund,
we're
quite
not
balanced
fiscal
year
27-28
and
we'll
kind
of
talk
about
that.
Again,
things
can
change
over
time,
and
so
it
is
further
out,
but
we
do
like
to
bring
that
to
you
because
again
we'll
we'll
try
to
be
proactive
and
figure
out.
Well,
what
can
we
do
as
we
move
forward
over
the
years.
I
Yes,
this
fund
is
more
for
regular
maintenance,
so
it
includes
the
sidewalks.
It
includes
the
street
signs.
It
includes
the
signal
maintenances
everything
else
for
transportation,
related
type
of
expenses.
I
I
So
for
the
gas
taxes
again,
we
estimate
the
two
percent
growth
per
year.
This
fund
has
a
little
bit
higher
gas
tax
of
699
395
dollars.
All
the
revenues
are
per
contracts.
You
did
just
approve
one
earlier
today
there
were
some
special
projects
that
were
added
to
this
fund.
I
We
had
added
150
000
last
year
for
the
bridge
LED
lighting
project
from
the
county.
They
did
give
us
an
updated
estimate
that
was
going
to
go
up
to
250
000,
so
you
see
the
additional
100
000
that's
needed,
and
then
they
have
traffic
signal
projects
over
the
next
two
years.
So
you
see
the
154
000
in
fiscal
year
24
and
187
000
in
fiscal
year
25..
These
will
require
a
general
fund
transfer
to
make
sure
we
can
afford
those
projects.
I
I
I
I
B
H
We'll
get
into
that
something
with
the
general
fund
budget
that
we
have
between
project
and
gas
tax
revenue
is
funded
by
the
general
fund,
that's
what
we
have
in
there
and
what
we'll
really
get
into
as
we
get
into
the
general
fund
budget.
Is
you
know
if
you
don't
want
to
fund
that
with
that
Source?
What
do
we
do
with
the
projects?
But
you
know
our
recommendation
of
course.
I
H
AJ
H
Good,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
that
we've
been
conservative
only
increases
at
two
percent.
We
don't
really
have
a
crystal
ball
with
where
that's
going
to
go,
but
we
know
it's
going
to
impact
it,
so
we're
just
being
conservative
on
our
Revenue
estimates.
That's
all
we're
doing
right
now,
because
the
other
thing
that
we're
looking
at
is
when
we
upgrade
things
like
Arrow,
Court,
Center
or
other
places.
H
You
know,
when
does
it
come
to
the
point
that
we
do
have
to
start
installing
more
electric
vehicle
charging
stations
and
what's
the
programmatic
aspect
of
that,
as
far
as
charging
people
to
use
them
versus
not
charging
people
to
use
them,
because,
obviously
that
didn't
go
over
well,
so
you
can
always
have
credit
card
slots
in
them
and
but
providing
that
so
that
people
have
that
option
and
can
sit
down
down
for
a
couple
hours
while
they
charge
your
vehicle
meet
in
the
restaurants
is
something
that
we
definitely
have
to
look
at.
So.
AJ
H
AF
Without
any
gas
support,
so
the
thing
about
the
electric
cars
and
and
doing
and
I
support
what
you're
saying
as
far
as
putting
charging
stations
around
but
there's
no
resident
in
Punta
Gorda,
that
is
going
to
go
over
to
Harold,
Court
Square
and
plug
in
and
charge
their
car
they're
going
to
charge
it
in
their
garage.
That's
the
cheapest
way
for
them
and
that's
what
they're
going
to
do?
What?
What?
What?
What
doing
something
like?
That
would
be
more
for
marketing
people
to
come
to
downtown
and
say
Hey.
AF
You
can
come
here
because
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
not
getting
home
because
we
have
access
to
charge
your
car.
So
it's
really
not
about
the
local
people.
We
see
a
lot
of
cars
most
of
the
cars
that
we
see
around
here.
The
electric
cars
are
people
that
live
here.
It's
it's
the
people
that
we
want
to
come
and
spend
their
money
downtown
and
bring
their
electric
car
or
not
come
because
they're
afraid
they
can't
charge.
That's
that's
where
we
have
to
address
this.
I
I
did
want
to
just
mention.
If
per
Joan,
we
would
have
to
change
the
scope
for
FGCU
to
add
that
in
there,
so
that
piece
might
have
to
come
back.
If,
if
you.
B
H
And
I'll
just
kick
this
off
before
Mitchell
gets
into
it.
This
is
intended
to
open
discussion
on
the
ldrs
and
what
was
directed
last
time
to
show
where
that
has
gone
to
this
point,
discuss
some
of
the
details
that
are
more
nebulous,
that
we
need
to
nail
down
and
also
some
of
the
challenges
that
this
causes
and
get
all
the
information
out
there.
So
we
can
put
more.
We
can
flush
it
out,
get
a
little
more
meat
on
the
bones
and
then
get
to
the
Finish
Line
on
this.
B
AH
Ahead,
all
right,
thank
you
for
that
introduction,
Mitchell
Austin
Urban
Design.
So
the
presentation
here
is
reiterating
what
we
heard
previously
from
the
public
and
city
council
regarding
the
Land
Development
regulation
update.
AH
So
again,
this
is
the
the
part
three
of
a
three-part
project.
We
will
be
hearing
in
the
next
presentation
about
part
two
comprehensive
plan
updates.
So
that's
these
things
are
going
in
lockstep.
At
this
point,
the
public
has
definitely
had
significant
concerns
regarding
development
requirements
in
terms
of
parking
building,
Heights
and
the
potential
of
of
having
some
sort
of
development
mitigation.
AH
In
terms
of
what
we
heard
last
time
from
city
council
and
parking
requirements
for
the
downtown
core
for
those
small
Parcels
that
are
under
20
000
square
feet,
Council
stated
that
they
wanted
to
see
an
increase
of
the
parking
requirement
from
zero
spaces
per
dwelling
unit
to
one
space
per
dwelling
unit,
with
that
additional
space
being
provided
either
on-site
or
feet
in
lieu
for
those
Parcels
in
the
downtown
core,
greater
than
20
000
square
feet,
the
base
requirement
was
one
space
per
dwelling
unit
on
site
and
the
consensus
was
to
increase
that
parking
requirement
into
incrementally.
H
And
if
I
can
add
a
couple
things
to
that,
just
as
historical
perspective,
basically,
this
is
saying
that
when
you
build
a
building
downtown,
currently
you
have
to
have
one
space
per
glowing
unit
or
per
thousand
square
feet
or
whatever,
when
we
get
to
those
parts.
But
when
you
get
to
a
certain
height
that
increases
so
you're
still
at
one
space
per
unit,
but
then
that
increases
incrementally
to
one
and
a
half
and
then
there's
options
to
where
that
goes.
H
Now,
when
we
talk
about
the
downtown
core,
if
you
look
on
the
website
under
the
CRA,
we
still
have
information
out
there,
that
the
CRA
was
developed
to
facilitate
three
things
and
that
was
public-private,
Partnerships,
an
incentive
for
private
investment
and
making
sure
that
the
vacant
properties
were
redeveloped.
Part
of
that
incentive
was
the
herald.
Court
Center
say
that
when
you
talk
about
one
space
for
dwelling
unit
in
the
downtown
core,
the
intent
there
was
that
the
herald
Court
Center,
would
supplement
those
parking
requirements
say
that
it
is
not
one
space.
H
That's
total
for
each
unit,
that's
developed,
but
it's
one
space
required
to
be
provided
by
that
developer.
So
that
being
said,
you
still
have
in
the
downtown
course
substantial
amount
of
properties.
When
you
talked
about
twenty
thousand
square
feet
or
greater
and
twenty
thousand
and
less
was
Zero
the
intent
there
was
to
not
have
a
missing
tooth
look
so
that
you
didn't
have
every
building
that
had
an
Ingress
and
egress
and
a
parking
lot
beside
it
so
that
you
have
like
some.
H
You
can
point
to
downtown
every
time
you
went
down
Marion,
you
would
have
all
of
those
that
had
parking
on
and
off
coming
on
and
off
each
specific
site.
So
if
you
had
River
City
Grill,
if
you
had
whatever
they
would
have
their
own
parking
lot
beside
them
coming
in
and
out
there
well
the
herald,
Court
Center
and
the
downtown
core
was
intended
under
20
000
square
feet
to
address
that
as
an
incentive
and,
in
addition,
allow
site
development
so
that
the
building
was
on
the
complete
site
which
increased
the
tax
base.
H
So
if
you
have
the
building,
only
half
of
that
site,
of
course,
the
tax,
the
assessment
for
the
tax
would
not
be
as
great
as
if
that
building
encompasses
the
whole
site
and
then
parking
is
off-site
or
supplemented
by
CRA
airport
Center.
That
was
the
historical
perspective
from
it.
So
typically,
you
would
have
that
whole
site,
because
now
the
tax
base
is
increased
because
you
have
an
off-site
parking
incentive
and
a
portion
of
that
tax.
H
You
recovered,
because
you
have
more
tax
on
that
property
that
has
no
parking
would
have
going
to
going
towards
a
parking
plan
or
other
parking
initiatives
that
still
allowed
parking
to
increase
in
the
downtown
core
as
development
occurred.
So
we
don't
have
that
specific
plan,
one
of
the
things
that,
regardless
of
what
number
it
ends
up
that
we're
trying
to
do,
is
facilitate
a
plan
like
that.
So
as
the
tax
increments
come
in,
part
of
that
goes
towards
parking
or
is
the
development
occurs.
H
Part
of
that
requirement
is
to
put
an
increment
towards
additional
public
parking
in
the
downtown
core.
So,
regardless
of
the
number
historical
perspective,
was
that
because
of
the
CRA
and
what
was
done
there
and
perspective
moving
forward,
is
we
need
to
have
a
sustainable
Revenue
source
that
helps
increase,
that
amount
of
parking
from
development
and
from
the
developer
to
continue
to
make
sure
the
Downtown
parking
amenities
continue
to
increase?
AH
AH
AH
So
the
last
thing
there
that
we
heard
from
Council
regarding
parking
was
that
for
the
all
areas
outside
of
the
downtown
core,
we
were
to
retain
the
two
spaces
per
dwelling
unit,
that
is
in
the
current
code.
So
it's
increased
from
the
the
draft
requirement
of
one
space
per
dwelling
unit
to
two
spaces
per
dwelling
unit,
which
is
consistent
with
current
code.
AH
The
other
thing
that
we
heard
back
in
January
was
that
we
needed
to
look
at
the
waterfront
overlay
again.
The
the
original
proposal
was
to
remove
this
from
the
plan.
Council
directed
us
to
retain
it,
revise
the
boundaries
and
include
Provisions
requiring
boating
access
as
additional
mitigation
for
Building
height.
AH
The
final
thing
or
the
next
thing
is
the
building
height
discussion
itself
in
the
downtown
core,
the
the
50
feet,
with
no
mitigation
that
is
consistent
with
the
current
Land
Development
regulations,
so
this
50
foot
height
would
be
including
the
allowance
for
base
flood
elevation
and
exclusions
for
those
rooftop
amenities
that
are
non-habitable
architectural
features.
Elevator
Towers,
attics,
mechanical
addicts,
Etc
the.
AH
Council
Direction
on
additional
Building
height
was
up
to
80
feet
all
in
with
no
exclusions
for
those
rooftop
things
or
base
flood
elevation,
so
that
was
that
was
the
direction
that
we
heard.
Similarly,
that
was
the
direction
that
we
heard
for
the
Waterfront
overlay
and
then
for
the
medical
overlay
currently
at
60
feet
with
no
mitigation
in
the
current
code.
So
retain
that
and
then
up
to
100
feet
again,
all
in
with
no
exclusions
or
base
flood
allowances.
AH
Foreign
development
mitigation,
wise
Council,
directed
us
to
better
integrate
those
into
the
regulating
District
requirements,
so
it
was
very
clear
and
concise.
These
are
the
requirements
for
these
building
Heights,
so
there
were
increased
Street
setbacks
and
additional
public
open
space
and
parking.
So
the
parking
is
related
to
dwelling
units.
B
AH
That's
a
good
question
and
the
way
that
so
in
the
current
code
there
was
no
provision
for
Marina
parking
for
the
downtown
core.
There
was
for
areas
outside
of
the
downtown
core
so
that
provision
for
adding
parking
for
Marina
was
was
requested
in
one
of
the
previous
discussions
with
Council.
So
so
it
could.
It
could
definitely
be
revised
back
to
its
current
state,
which
is
in
the
downtown
core.
There
would
be
no
vehicular
parking
car
parking
required
for
Marina
slips.
AH
H
Enough
I
had
to
keep
going
with
this,
the
one
Marina
since
we're
already
on
that
right
now,
the
incentive
or
initiative
to
require
Waterfront
amenities
really
the
day
docks
versus
Marina
slips
are
something
that
we're
trying
to
facilitate.
We
have
some
in
Lashley
Marina
the
day.
Docs
are
usually
full
and
many
times
people,
you
know
have
said
we
need
more
space
so
that
we
can
come
in
and
actually
visit
the
downtown
visit,
the
restaurants
Etc
so
the
day.
H
Docs
are
something
that
if
we
have
those
does
help
people
that
come
in
they
don't
have
vehicles,
they
don't
impact
the
streets
as
much
it's
more
walkable
servicing
the
restaurants
that
are
there.
They
come
in
for
a
purpose
if
we
have
marinas
marinas
that
have
Uber
night
slips.
Sometimes
that
also
Services
things,
but
the
marina
slips
many
times,
especially
if
you
have
people
that
are
using
it
for
even
part-time
liver
boards.
H
Up
to
the
amount
allowed
we
do
have
some
traffic
in
the
marina
slips
are
more
for
the
marina
operator
or
the
convenience
of
the
facility
itself
to
provide
that
service.
But
it's
not
like
the
day
Docs
that
allow
people
to
come
and
go
and
service
the
downtown
cores
that
don't
need
parking.
So
we
would
have
to
look
at
that.
The
building
height
itself.
When
we
look
at
the
integration
of
Building
height,
we've
looked
at
this
from
80
feet
all
in
has
directed
and
from
grade
a
couple
challenges
that
we'll
have
to
discuss
with.
H
H
One
could
be
80
foot
from
here.
You
could
have
greed,
that's
these
floods,
you
could
have
agreed,
that's
below
it
or
in
theory,
even
above
it,
but
you
know
you
can
always
index
that
to
something
you
could
index
it
to
the
crown
of
the
streets.
You
could
index
it
to
street
lights
or
distance
from
the
Moon.
If
you
wanted,
you
could
index
it
to
something
say
you
come
up
with
grade,
but
regardless
of
how
you
index
it,
you
still
have
to
compare
it
to
BFE
because
that's
where
your
residential
habitation
is
allowed.
H
So
until
you
get
to
BFE,
however,
you're
indexing
that
grade
and
whatever
that
grade
may
be,
if
you're
going
to
require
people
to
cut
it
down
to
something
or
fill
it
to
something,
it's
not
as
clean
as
BFE.
Obviously,
because
that's
where
staff
has
to
look
at,
we
need
a
foot
free
board
and
you
can't
live
until
you
get
above
that
so
below.
That
is.
You
know
where
all
the
additional
amenities
can
occur.
That
may
not
be
a
full-time
residential.
It
could
be
the
mixed
use,
the
retail,
the
restaurants,
the
parking
it
can
be.
H
All
of
those
things
that
are
below
that,
but
BFE
is
still
something
we
have
to
index
everything
to,
because
you
can't
have
residential
development
below
that,
so
that
becomes
much
more
challenging.
The
other
thing,
of
course,
is
when
we
look
at.
If
you
want
to
see
a
four-story
hotel,
you
know
or
a
mixed-use
building,
that's
great,
but
when
you're
talking
about
all
in
to
80
people
start
looking
at
well.
How
can
I
make
that
space?
H
Give
me
a
return,
and
you
really
can't,
because
if
you,
for
example,
can't
use
a
hydraulic
piston
on
an
elevator
where
you
have
to
have
cables,
then
you
have
to
have
an
equipment
room
above
it.
So
if
that
equipment
room
is
10
feet,
that
80
is
now
70.,
so
we
have
70
and
then,
if
that's
from
grade
then
you're
looking
at
a
building,
that's
substantially
shorter
than
most
people
would
say,
is
commercially
viable,
say
that
top
space
is
an
issue.
H
When
we
look
at
how
do
we
manage
that
top
space,
especially
when
you're
going
from
greed
and
then
the
BFE
of
course,
is
an
issue
because
that's
really
where
everything
starts.
When
we
look
at
our
statutes,
not
just
what
we
want
to
see
in
this
but
statutorily,
how
do
we
have
to
manage
it?
So
those
are
a
couple
things
as
we
move
forward
in
the
discussion
that
you
might
consider
what
you
want
to
see.
It
specifically
say
you
say
that
we
can
properly
manage
that
and
allow
development
to
occur.
AH
That
so,
we've
just
talked
about
what
we
heard
as
staff,
and
this
is
what
has
been
the
the
current
draft
revisions
reflect
that
which
I'll
go
over
here.
So
for
the
downtown
core
Lots
under
20
000
square
feet,
we've
increased
the
parking
requirement
for
residential
from
zero
spaces
per
dwelling
to
one
space
per
dwelling,
recognizing
that
these
sites
are
small
and
the
the
negative
aspect
of
having
sort
of
the
missing
tooth
look
along
the
straight
front.
AH
We
provide
options
for
that
parking
to
be
provided
either
on
site
off-site
with
a
third-party
private
party
agreement
that
would
have
to
be
registered
with
the
city
and
approved
by
the
city
and
then
a
fee
in
lieu,
as
set
by
city
council.
So
these
these
parking
spaces
here
that
we're
talking
about
are
per
dwelling
unit
and
they're
assigned
to
those
dwelling
units.
So
that's
why
this
this
piece
is
a
little
bit
different
from
the
next
piece.
We'll
talk
about.
H
And
registered
with
the
city,
you
could
mean
a
private
contract
with
someone
sustainable,
long-term
contract.
It
allows
those
to
continue
the
fee
in
lieu
could
be
you
know
whatever.
It
is
ten
thousand
dollars
per
spot,
that
you're
either
surface
or
a
deck
which
gives
you
a
revenue
stream
as
things
develop,
to
increase
the
amount
of
public
or
private
parking
that's
available
in
the
downtown
core
private
parking,
meaning
if
it's
specifically
associated
with
the
development
say
that
they're
not
taking
up
street
parking.
That
then
hinders
on-site
parking
I
mean
off-site
parking
for
the
public.
AH
AH
Those
lots
that
are
less
than
20
000
square
feet
are
specifically
prohibited
from
that,
so
they're
not
eligible.
So
this
these
two
things
go
hand
in
hand
so
for
the
downtown
core
greater
than
20
000
square
feet
again,
the
base
requirement
is
for
residential
to
have
one
space
per
dwelling
as
the
requirement
based
on
market
conditions,
of
course,
of
develop
individual
developer
market
conditions.
AH
Finance
requirements,
whatever
their
proforma
is,
could
provide
more,
could
choose
to
provide
more
pers
on
site,
but
that
is
the
minimum
requirement
under
the
the
proposed
code
so
for
building
Heights
that
would
exceed
that
in
in
the
mitigation
realm,
we
have
two
break
points,
natural
break
points
based
on
the
building
Heights
that
we're
dealing
with
and
that's
at
65
feet
and
80
feet.
AH
So
we
took
that
direction
to
look
at
it
incrementally
and
say
that
for
buildings
that
were
65
feet
with
additional
residential
density,
that
the
parking
additional
public
parking
requirement
would
be
0.25
spaces
per
dwelling
and
then
again
for
80
feet,
it
would
be
0.5
spaces
per
dwelling.
These
additional
spaces
required
related
to
dwellings
are
for
public
parking,
so
those
public
parking
spaces,
the
parking
in
excess
of
one
space
per
dwelling
would
need
to
be
accessible
to
the
general
public
at
least
10
hours
per
day.
AH
AH
So
a
developer
is
not
going
to
assign
parking
spaces
for
residential
if
they
know
they
have
to
have
public
parking.
So,
whatever
pool
of
parking
like
internal
to
a
development,
the
developer
is
going
to
decide
how
they're
going
to
manage
their
parking
and
they'll
assign
some
number
of
spaces
for
the
residential
and
some
number
of
spaces
for
other
tenants.
AH
B
AH
Assign
so
in
other
mixed-use
buildings
that
are
that
are
in
our
area
like
in
Cape
Coral
at
Cape,
Harbor,
there's
some
mixed-use
facilities
there
they
have
part
of
the
parking
garage
is
public
for
the
businesses
and
then
there's
another
gate
inside
that
parking
garage.
That's
for
the
residents.
AH
Because
well,
yeah,
and
that
would
that
would
be.
You
know
the
other
thing
that
you
see
in
in,
like
even
in
downtown
Sarasota.
There's
a
couple
of
public
garages
that
do
have
parking
reserve
for
residences,
because
there's
an
Associated
I
think
it's
State,
Street
Garage.
That
has
that,
and
they
have
signs
up
that.
You
know.
AF
That's
what
I
was
going
to
say
is:
you
could
have
signs
that
say.
You
know
public
parking
between
these
hours,
parking
stickers
required
after
6
p.m,
or
something
and
you
and
they
issue
the
resident.
A
parking
sticker
and
you're
going
to
have
overlap.
I
mean
nobody's
going
to
be
out
there.
It's
six
o'clock
moving
their
car,
but
if
it
becomes
a
problem,
then
they
get
cited
and
towed
well.
The
by.
H
AJ
A
A
H
H
You
know
they
can
put
two
spaces
per
dwelling
unit
and
it
doesn't
always
have
to
be
on
site
if
they
have
an
adjacent
off-site
agreement,
it
could
be
a
lot
right
next
to
the
development
or
it
could
be
part
of
the
parking
garage
too,
because
this
is
also
minimum
and
that's
where
the
difference
between
what
people
want
to
see
when
they're
purchasing
these
and
what
the
city
requires
is
a
bit
different.
There's
a
dichotomy
there
correct.
AH
Yes,
so
the
currently
parking
requirements,
most
conventional
parking
requirements
are
designed
for
Suburban
development.
If
we
impose
those
requirements
on
downtown
Punta,
Gorda
you'll
continue
to
see
what
you
see
now,
which
is
it's
impossible
to
make
a
development
work,
because
you
you
can't
it's
a
space
problem.
You
literally
can't
park
that
many
cars
in
that
location,
if
every
single
use
within
a
building
is
required
to
have
the
Suburban
Standard
Parking
it
just
doesn't
the
math
doesn't
work,
there's
physically,
not
enough
space
and.
H
AH
So
the
the
final
piece
of
the
puzzle
here
was
to
retain
the
the
two
spaces
per
door
or
yes,
to
retain
the
two
spaces
per
dwelling
for
residential
for
all
those
areas
outside
of
the
downtown
core.
That
was
in
the
previous
draft
and
then
the
additional
here
is
adding
that
parking
spaces
for
Marinas
and
again.
That
was
that's
in
the
current
code
for
areas
outside
of
the
proposed
form-based
code
area
and
we're
just
bringing
it
into
the
form
base
code
area
and.
H
This
really
is
more
Marina
and
does
not
have
to
be
day
dock.
It's
just
Marina
parking.
If
you
have
people
that
are
overnight
in
the
marinas
that
are
coming,
because,
if
they're
overnight,
they
may
have
visitors
coming
in
to
see
them,
they
might
be
here
to
you
know,
for
whatever
reason,
so,
that's
requirement
as
it
stands
is
Marina
not
day
doc.
The
two
spaces
for
dwelling,
especially
outside
City
core,
does
not
anticipate
the
availability
of
public
structures
that
are
funded
through
the
development
process
like
we're
talking
about
a
parking
deck.
AH
So
the
next
piece
of
the
puzzle
here
is:
we
did
look
at
re,
revising
the
Waterfront
overlay
District,
so
we've
we've
tightened
it
up.
If
you
remember
from
the
previous
slide
in
this
presentation,
the
Waterfront
overlay
extended
out
across
the
water
public
Waterfront
into
Punta,
Gorda
Isles,
all
the
way
out
to
essentially
the
yacht
club,
so
we've
trimmed
that
back
to
just
be
relative
to
the
form-based
code
area.
AH
So
for
this
area,
the
the
additional
requirements
are
specific
to
those
those
slips
or
day
docs
and
both
were
discussed
previously
and
not
being
a
water
use.
Planner,
we
included
both
so
from
what
we
looked
at
a
slip
is
an
on-water
boat
berth
that
would
be
available
for
rent
by
day
week
or
month
and
then
a
day
doc
would
be
an
on
water
boat,
birth,
that's
available
for
a
period
less
than
24
hours.
AH
AF
Because
I
am
a
voter
and
I
did
Advocate
putting
this
in
here.
What
we
want
to
encourage
with
the
dadocs
is
people
to
come
and
visit
and
shop
and
spend
money
downtown,
so
I
think
we
need
to
flip
instead
of
having
10
slips,
you
want
to
have
the
10
day
docs
and
the
five
slips
the
slips
overnight.
Long-Term
slips
will
benefit
the
marina
owner
and
ultimately
that
will
help
downtown
business.
AF
But
what
we
want
to
encourage
is
people
come
to
downtown
with
their
boats,
spend
a
couple
hours,
spend
a
few
bucks
and
then
leave
so
so
I
think
that's
that's
where
you
want
to
focus
and,
and
those
are
cheaper
a
day
doc
slip
doesn't
have
power,
it
doesn't
have
Plumbing,
it
doesn't
have
you
know
any.
It
has
nothing.
It's
just
a
place
to
tie
up
like
a
long
Lashley.
Those
are
are
relatively
inexpensive
compared
to
normal
slips.
B
As
opposed
to
and
I
disagree
with
that,
I
disagree
with
that,
because
if
you
have
as
an
example,
if,
if
the
hotel
that
is
now
closed
were
to
be
refurbished
or
rebuilt
or
whatever
may
end
up
happening
there
and
they
put
a
full
service
Marina
in
there
for
transient
boaters
they're
not
going
to
want
day
docs
there,
they
may
have
a
few
that
they'll
allow
people
to
use
for
day
docs,
but
they're
going
to
be
encouraging
people
to
use
their
overnight
slips
and
pay
for
that.
No.
AF
I
get
that,
but
that's
not,
that
might
be
what
the
marina
wants,
but
that's
not
what
we
want.
Our
business
owners
want
people
to
come
and
stay,
so
we
I
think
we
need
to
construct
this
in
a
way
that
that
encourages
whoever
is
going
to
build
and
whoever's
going
to
only
own
to
do
what
we
want
and
and
I
think
having
the
marina.
There
is
good
and
you're
right,
they're
gonna
they
are
gonna.
AF
They
are
going
to
normally
gravitate
towards
the
marina,
because
that's
where
they're
going
to
make
Revenue
they're
going
to
get
Revenue
off
of
that,
that's
a
that's
going
to
cost
them
more
to
build,
but
it's
gonna
they're.
They
are
going
to
make
the
revenue,
but
not
necessarily
the
rest
of
the
businesses,
downtown
I.
Think
as
a
city,
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
of
of
head
fake
and
go
the
other
way
we
want
to.
AF
We
want
to
encourage
them
to
do
what
they
don't
want
to
do
because
that'll
benefit
the
city
and
that'll
benefit
the
rest
of
our
our
businesses
down
there.
So
that's
why
I'm
suggesting
that
you
do
you
do
want
to
have
both,
but
but
we,
the
the
businesses,
the
generally
the
businesses
downtown,
are
not
going
to
benefit
as
much
from
a
full-service
long-term
Arena
than
they
will
from
day,
docs
and
and
transient
slips.
So.
AF
No
I
think
or
I
mean
you
could
do
it
as
either
or
it
just
needs.
The
the
emphasis
here
is
encouraging
them
to
build.
I
think
the
way
I
look
at
this
and
the
way
my
advisor
group,
all
of
whom
are
boaters,
looked
at
this.
They
said
we're
encouraging
them
to
build
a
marina,
that's
good,
and
it's
going
to
benefit
them
more
than
it's
going
to
benefit
our
downtown
businesses.
We
would
rather
encourage
them
to
build.
B
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
we
have
to
leave
it
up
to
the
developer,
because
it's
private
property
and
we
can't
mandate
that
they're
going
to
have
a
certain
number
of
day.
Docs
I,
don't
I,
don't
agree
with
that
at
all.
I
I
think,
if
somebody's
going
to
spend
the
money
to
to
put
a
marina
in
a
marina
facility
and
on
their
property,
I
think
they're
they're
spending
a
lot
of
money
to
make
that
happen,
not
notwithstanding
all
the
federal
permits
and
the
submerged
land
lease
and
everything
else
that
has
to
go
with
it.
B
AC
Up
and
I
was
going
to
say
just
I,
don't
know
how
much
room
so
I,
don't
know
where
the
10
to
15
kind
of
came
up
with,
or
you
just
split
it
10
and
10.,
but
you
just
put
there
has
to
be
so
many
docs
and
it
can
be
allocated.
However,
the
Builder,
the
person
or
the
re.
Whatever
is
going
to
happen,
you
know
let
them
do
it
themselves.
AC
The
owner
I
do
agree,
though
day
docs
definitely
do
encourage
people
to
come
in,
spend
money
and
leave,
and
when
you
have
slips,
you've
got
a
little
bit
more
accountability
there,
but
you
know
that
would
be
kind
of
in
the
middle
is
just
put
and
or
like
you
said,.
AF
AE
AF
X
AF
Another
good
example:
I
mean
it's
a
doc.
You
have
an
ability
to
tie
up
your
boat,
you
have
ability
to
get
off
your
boat,
but
that's
a
lot
less
expensive
trust
me
we're
in
the
yacht
club
putting
in
docks
right
now
and
we're
putting
in
fuel
and
Water
and
Electric
and
this
and
that
and
the
other
thing
it's
costing
us
more
to
do
that
than
it
is
to
put
the
dock
in
so
so
they're
going
to
gravitate.
You
know
because
of
the
revenue
you
know
towards
doing
marinas
and
and
full
service
marinas.
AF
We
want
them
to
do
temporary
slips
so
that
people
will
come
and
spend
their
time
and
money
downtown.
If
you
do
a
full
service,
Marina
and
all
the
slips
are
taken
by
tenants,
then
you've
defeated
the
purpose,
because
now
you've
got
you've,
got
boats
downtown,
but
they
live
there
and
I
may
not
live
on
not
liver
boards,
but
the
boats,
that's
where
they
stay
permanently,
and
so
now
I
want
to
bring
my
boat
down
and
I
want
to
go
to
to
FM
Dons
to
have
to
have
dinner
or
lunch.
AF
I
got
no
place
to
tie
up.
So
we've
defeated
our
purpose
by
letting
them
do
Marine
it's
the
whole
the
whole
or
or
encouraging
them
to
do
is
the
whole
point
is
about
getting
people
getting
more
walkable
traffic
downtown
and
we're
going
to
do
that
by
encouraging
the
day
docs,
as
opposed
to
encouraging
the
permanent
slips.
Both
are
good
and
we
should
have
both,
but
we
we
don't
do
this
right,
we're
going
to
wind
up
with
a
marina,
that's
going
to
be
Revenue,
generating
for
the
property
owner
and
no
date.
B
AA
So
the
point
that
we
need
to
focus
back
in
on
is
the
word
mitigation
and
the
idea
being
that,
if
they're
going
to
be
increasing
the
height
of
the
building
beyond
what
is
the
city's
standard?
The
idea
is
that
that
increased
height
is
a
detriment
to
the
city's
Public,
Health,
public
health,
safety
and
Welfare,
and
so
to
mitigate
for
that
negative
impact.
B
Let
me
also
say
this
I
mentioned
this
property
before,
but
if,
if
the
property
owner
that
owns
the
the
now
defunct
Hotel
were
to
rebuild
his
marina
facility
and
he
spends
the
money
for
the
infrastructure
to
build
a
marina
facility
he's
going
to
want
those
people
coming
in
from
even
if
they're
day,
doc
he's
going
to
want
those
people
to
use
his
restaurant
number,
one
not
go
downtown
to
use
other
restaurants,
because
that's
a
private
property
and
that's
his
prerogative
and
secondly,
I
think
that
I
think
that,
what's
going
to
happen,
is
you're
going
to
have
liability
issues
you're
going
to
have
all
kinds
of
things
going
on
with
insurance
and
liability,
because
they're
not
going
to
maybe
want
people
coming
and
using
their
day
docs
to
go
downtown
and
frequent
other
facilities
and
not
stay
on
their
property
and
I
I'm.
B
AF
AF
Building
a
marina
there
is
for
the
benefit
of
the
property
owner.
It's
not,
and
so,
if
we're
talking
about
mitigation,
if
we're
going
to
allow
him
to
have
more
height
and
build
a
Marina
and
no
day,
docs
now
he's
gonna
he's
gonna
get
get
us
twice,
because
we're
going
to
give
him
height
we're
going
to
give
him
a
marina
that
he's
going
to
be
able
to
generate
revenue
on
and
and
nobody
is
going
to
be
able
to
to
bring
their
boat
there
and
go
to
the
go
to
any
other
restaurant
I
understand
what
he
wants.
AF
He
is
going
to
want
to
keep
people
on
his
property,
but
that's
not
what's
going
to
happen
and
that's
not
what
we
want
to
have
happen.
We
want
people
to
be
able
to
walk
around
downtown
and
spend
their
money.
If
you
do
just
the
marina,
if
we
force
them
into
the
marina
situation,
that's
not
going
to
happen,
and
now
now
we
lose
twice
he's
the
Marine
is
great,
but
it's
not
going
to
benefit
the
city.
In
that
case,
it's
not
mitigation.
AF
AC
R
AC
AF
It's
not
necessarily
the
case.
I
mean
the.
There
is
the
property
where
the
tiki
hut
is
I
mean
they
have
rights
to
build
there,
they
might
someday
build
and
they
could
expand.
Four
Points
could
expand
their
their
footprint.
You
know
on
the
water
there,
for
height
for
mitigation,
you've
got
Fisherman's
Village,
they
certainly
expand.
AF
You
know
their
Marina
there,
their
day
docks
you
know,
and
so
there
are
other
properties
and-
and
there
are
other
prop
who
knows
the
next
time
a
hurricane
comes
through
we're,
going
to
knock
something
else
down
and
there'll,
be
something
else
that
we
could
build.
So
this
isn't
about.
We
can't
construct
ldrs
for
a
specific
purpose
we
have
to.
We
have
to
construct
these
ldrs
for
the
the
bigger
picture,
the
general
good
down
the
road,
because
you
can't
anticipate
anything
everything.
AF
So
so
you
know
what
it
you
want
to
split
it.
That's
fine
good
10
to
10
10
to
10
is
better
than
five
because
we're
not,
but
but
it's
we're
with
the
the
concept
of
this
is
backwards.
The
way
it
is
we
we
don't
want
to
encourage
a
marina.
We
do
want
to
encourage
day.
Docs,
if
we're
not
encouraging
day
docs,
then
we're
missing
the
point.
B
I,
don't
think
we
have
that
much
of
a
need
for
it.
I
I,
really
don't
I
mean
I
know
there
are
people
that
come
downtown
now,
with
their
boats
and
and
they're,
using
whatever
spaces
they
can
find
I.
Just
don't
think
that
we
can
mandate
to
a
private
business
owner
that
we
have
they're
going
to
be
required
to
put
10
day,
docs
or
20
day
docs
on
their
property.
AF
They're
not
required
to
do
it,
but
if
they're
going
to
say
hey
City,
we
want
to
do
extra
Heist
and
we're
going
to
say:
okay
property
owner.
You
can
do
extra
hype
in
exchange
for
that
you
got
to
do
some
day,
docs
that
we're
not
Manning
they
don't
they
don't
have
to
do
any
day.
Docs
they
don't
do
anything.
They
could
build
to
the
to
the
50
feet
and
that's
it
we're
not
mandating
they.
AF
Do
it,
we're
just
giving
them
an
option
and
we're
saying
here's
what
we
want
in
exchange
for
that
and
and
you
go
to
Riviera
now-
that's
not
in
the
city,
but
you
go
to
Riviera
on
your
boat,
good
luck,
finding
a
place
to
tie
up
and
they
just
expanded
their
docs
dramatically,
and
it's
still
time
you
build
it
and
they'll
come
and-
and
we
just
don't
have
it
here-
we
don't
have
enough
of
it
here.
So
this
is
all
about
encouraging
people
to
spend
their
money
at
our
businesses
downtown.
This.
H
AG
AA
Yeah-
and
this
goes
back
to
the
question
of
the
mitigation
value
I-
don't
know
the
answer
to
this
question
so
I'm
putting
it
out
to
whoever
might
have
an
opinion.
Does
the
city
have
a
shortage
of
transient,
meaning
you
know
one
to
several
day
slips?
Yes,
yes,
okay!
Well,
then
that
would
that
would
be
useful
for
mitigation
purposes
and
would
satisfy
the
the
equation.
AI
H
AH
So
moving
on
to
Building
height
with
the
downtown
course
so
this
table
here
would
essentially
be
in
the
regulating
District
requirements,
so
you
would
have
maximums
of
Building
height
and
residential
density.
The
Baseline
level
would
be
that
50
foot
four
story:
25
units
per
acre,
no
additional
requirements,
just
whatever
is
in
the
tables
above
it
in
terms
of
setbacks
and
and
everything
else,
then,
for
building
Heights
at
65
feet
five
stories,
maximum
that
would
be
35
dwelling
units
per
acre.
AH
AH
So,
in
addition
to
what
already
exists
and
then
2.5
percent
of
the
site,
in
addition
for
public
open
space
and
then
that
.25
spaces
per
dwelling
unit
for
public
parking
and
again
the
the
dwelling
unit,
calculation
is
just
relating
it
to
some
sort
of
to
the
the
development
intensity,
because
the
Dual,
the
number
of
dwellings
that
they're
providing
on
site,
is
giving
us
some
proxy
to
talk
about
how
much
public
parking
so
at
0.25
spaces
per
dwelling.
AH
AH
So
if
a
site
comes
in
and
it
has
multiple
buildings
on
the
site
as
long
as
they're
meeting
these
additional
requirements,
any
building
on
that
site
could
be
at
80
feet
or
less
than
80
feet.
The
density
calculation
would
be
gross
for
the
total
area
of
the
development
site.
It's
not
specific
to
any
individual
building.
A
AE
This
one
section
here
is
a
reason:
we
have
a
big
hole,
downtown
Punta
Gorda,
because
when
you
put
the
numbers
together,
units
per
acre
and
the
building
cost
and
land
costs
that
don't
work,
the
minimum
has
to
be
60..
It's
in
a
way
that's
going
to
work.
That's
the
reason
why
it
doesn't
that
gets
built
down
there.
V
AF
Thanks
to
Tallahassee
live
local
created
a
new
reality
and
no
matter
what
our
position
has
been
on
development
and
new
lirs
in
the
past.
I
think
we
all
need
to
take
a
step
back
and
reevaluate.
What
could
likely
happen
live
local
is
a
broad
reach
from
Tallahassee
into
local
governments,
and
it's
going
to
have
a
profound
impact
on
cities
all
over
Florida,
including
Punta
Gorda.
We've
got
to
be
smarter
than
smart.
We
can
place
hard
restrictions
on
development,
but
if
they're
so
restrictive
that
the
pro
forms
don't
work,
then
the
banks
won't
Finance.
AF
The
projects
and
Builders
will
be
forced
to
make
every
major
development
a
live
local
development.
In
the
past,
they
would
just
abandon
the
project
and
we've
seen
that
happen
over
and
over
again,
but
now
they
can
turn
to
Tallahassee
and
build
what
they
want.
Instead
of
what
we
want.
Instead
of
quaint
and
Charming,
we
could
end
up
as
the
bedroom
community
for
the
workforce
throughout
the
county
and
the
projects
will
never
come
before
Council.
AF
They
won't
even
come
before
the
Planning
Commission,
and
my
local
experience
tells
me
that
that's
not
what
this
community
wants.
We,
they
don't
want
every
major
development
to
be
in
a
live
local,
affordable
housing
project
and
don't
get
me
wrong.
I'm,
not
against
affordable
housing,
actually
I'm,
just
the
opposite,
I'm
an
advocate,
but
it
needs
to
be
on
our
terms
not
on
tallahassee's
terms,
and
if
that's
truly
what
our
city
residents
want,
then
we
need
to
make
every
effort
to
make
it
more
appealing
for
developers
to
work
with
our
vision
of
Punta
Gorda.
AF
AF
The
measurement
of
our
success
is
going
to
be
on
how
we
react.
We
have
to
be
smarter.
There's
no
devout
doubt
that
development
is
coming.
Tallahassee
has
guaranteed
that
the
question
now
is:
are
we
going
to
continue
to
fight
the
battle
we've
already
lost
and
let
developers
do
what
Tallahassee
wants,
or
are
we
going
to
take
this
as
an
opportunity
to
come
together
and
create
ldrs
that
will
align
development
with
our
vision?
H
So
this
goes
back
to
what
I
was
referencing
before.
If
you
look
at
the
current
code
at
50
feet
above
BFE
with
20
shared
60..
If
you
look
at
the
current
PD
that
if
they
qualify-
and
they
are
only
doing
the
minimum
Allowed
by
PD,
what
they're
actually
allowed
to
do
once
a
PD
is
approved
you're
at
60
feet
above
BFE.
H
So
here,
if
we're
doing
80
feet
from
grade,
if
grade
is
five
feet
below
BFE
you're
talking
about
75
feet
above
BFE,
where
now
you
already
have
72
and
then,
if
I
mean
and
that's
just
if
it's
only
five
feet.
So
if
there's
more
you're
down
right
around
where
you
are
right
now
with
a
PD
that
you
can
do
by
right
if
a
PD
is
approved
and
those
are
the
ones
that
are
failing-
that,
don't
have
the
return,
that's
necessary
to
make
that
happen.
Much
less.
H
The
calculation
differential
that
actually
throughs
an
additional,
not
wrench,
but
an
additional
facet
to
the
equation.
We
have
to
use
when
we're
trying
to
develop
anything
like
that.
So
that's
where
this
becomes
more
difficult
to
manage,
and
it's
really
not
giving
us
anything
more
than
really
we
have
now
I
mean
we
might
as
well
just
leave
it
the
way.
It
is
almost
because
you
know
if
you
look
at
65
feet
and
35
dwelling
units.
H
The
other
piece
of
that
equation
is
when
you
do
talk
about
affordable
housing
or
Workforce,
housing
or
professional
housing
that
we
like
to
see
for
our.
You
know
whether
it's
a
nurse
or
a
firefighter
or
whatever
you
you
want
to
use.
H
H
A
AH
The
the
other
thing
that
I
I've
heard
twice
here
was
was
talking
about
dwelling
units
and
that
maybe
45
feet
was
was
potentially
not
feasible
and
staff
needs
some
clarification
there,
because
the
45
feet
that's
in
there
now
is
based
on
discussions
that
we
had
basically
two
years
ago
at
this
point
regarding
where
we
were
going
to
go
with
future
land
use
classifications.
AH
So
that's
what
we've
been
operating
on
this
entire
time.
That
number
can
go
up
or
down,
depending
on
council's
desire
for
it
to
do
so.
The
25
units
per
acre
base
that
is
really
based
on
the
sort
of
development
entitlements
that
are
already
in
the
ground
and
making
sure
that
those
align
with
what
you
could
already
do
in
terms
of
building
a
duplex
on
an
existing
small
plotted
lot
of
record.
AH
AH
Okay,
so
moving
on
from
that
to
the
medical
overlay
District,
that
the
underlying
zoning
classification
are
the
underlying
District
regulating
district,
there
is
Village
Center,
which
has
a
base
Building
height
of
35
feet
and
25
dwelling
units
per
acre.
However,
because
it's
the
medical
overway,
that
medical
overway
has
additional
Building
height
and
residential
density
allowances
of
60
feet
up
to
five
stories
and
then
35
dwelling
units
per
acre,
the
sort
of
bringing
it
into
these
additional
requirements
that
we've
discussed.
AH
If
you're
going
up
to
100
feet
with
those
medical
uses,
seven
stories
again,
the
residential
density
stays
the
same.
We're
asking
for
a
15-foot
set-back,
additional
setback
and
and
7.5
percent
of
the
site
is
open
space
and
0.7
parking
spaces
per
dwelling
unit.
If
there
is
dwell,
if
there
are
dwellings
on
that
site,.
AH
AH
So
the
development
mitigation
was
revised
as
we've
seen
in
these
previous
tables.
It
is
baked
into
the
requirements
for
those
regulating
districts,
so
the
additional
Street
yard
setbacks
the
additional
public
open
space,
that's
just
a
requirement
of
code
and
that
can
be
regulated
through
staff,
the
public
parking
and
the
boat
slips.
AH
Those
require
some
level
of
approval
by
city
council
to
ensure
that
that
the
agreements
that
are
put
in
place,
whether
they
be
on-site
off-site
or
fee
and
Lou,
that
really
requires
city
council
to
be
involved
and
determine
whether
or
not
the
the
hours
of
operation
for
public
parking
are
acceptable
or
the
locations
or
or
the
fee
itself.
If
they
choose
that
route,
the.
AH
H
So
if
right,
it
needs
to
be
that
if
they
have
say
they
did
day
docs
and
they
have
you
know
50
day,
docs
sitting
out
there
that's
available
to
the
public.
Yes,
they
get
the
height.
But
how
does
that
relate
to
public
amenities
or
public
open
space?
I
mean
it's
not
land.
It's
not
a
park.
AH
V
AH
Additional
sidewalk,
the
minimum
requirement
on
the
street
set
back,
is,
is
five
feet
and
10
feet
if
they
chose
to
make
it
12
or
15,
and
they
use
that
space
as
that
additional
setback
as
their
public
open
space.
That
would
be
part
of
that
that
may
be
partially
occupied
by
you
know
outdoor
dining
at
times,
but
I
think
that's
something
that
we
allow
on
our
on
our
public
rights
way
in.
H
The
downtown
area
so
there's
always
discussion
because
if
just
say
you
have
the
USA,
you
bought
and
say
it's
thirty
thousand,
so
it's
above
20
000
square
feet
and
someone
sets
a
hotel
on
it.
So
what
do
they
have
to
do
for
2.5
or
so.
AH
Exciting
for
open
space
if
they
were
doing
the
the,
if
they're
doing
a
hotel,
they're
doing
Spring
Hill
Suites
right,
so
the
the
30
000
square
feet.
AH
B
AH
B
B
B
H
AH
A
AH
You
know
what
is
the
hotel
adding
to
the
the
liveliness
of
the
streets
downtown
if,
if
it
doesn't
have
a
public
access
component,
you
know
a
limited
service
Hotel
like
that
versus
a
full-service
hotel,
which
has
public
restaurants
and
bars
that
they
want
the
public
on
the
site.
In
addition
to
their.
AH
AC
AC
B
AF
H
AF
Then
I
would
caveat
it
for
the
larger
mixed-use
developments,
because
to
me
the
Rooftop
Bar,
on
top
of
the
wyvern,
is
an
open
space
and
if
somebody
was
going
to
build,
they
wanted
to
put
an
open
space.
On
top
of
you
know
a
hotel
that
they're
building
to
me
that's
public
space
and
but
in
a
in
a
bigger
development,
you
want
to
have
that
little
square.
A
AF
I
mean
that's
that
you
want
to
have
a
square.
You
want
to
have
a
place
where
you
know,
and
maybe
maybe
the
farmer's
market
winds
up
there.
You
know
something
like
that
in
the
future
and
that
so
you
have
to
you,
don't
want
to
exclude
that,
and
you
don't
want
to
set
it
up
so
that
they
will
not
do
that,
but
you
and
you
don't
want
to
set
it
up
where
other
places
that
can't
do
that
can't
do
anything,
because
it
would
be
nice
to
have
rooftop
bars
on
some
of
these
places.
Well,.
H
The
wyvern
is
another
good
example.
That's
a
really
good
example.
Actually,
because
you
know
they
rooftop
bars
great,
but
if
they
had
a
roof
over
it,
then
it
becomes
a
restaurant
still,
the
same
place
with
Windows
and
it's
air
conditioned,
but
it's
still
a
public
space.
But
where
would
the
wyvern
put
a
thousand
square
feet
of
a
courtyard
that
the
public
can.
B
I
think
you
have
to
specify
I
think
you
have
to
specify,
because,
as
we've
been
talking
about,
if
there's
a
hotel,
that's
going
to
be
built
and
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
sites
downtown
I'm,
not
just
talking
about
the
Waterfront
Inn
or
whatever
it
was
called
I'm.
Talking
about,
as
Greg
mentioned,
the
you
save
or
there's
a
parcel
over
on
Dupont
and
Nesbit
that
the
owner
is
talking
about
developing
and
you
know
if
it.
If
it's
a
property,
that's
going
to
be
a
mixed
use.
B
Project
I
think
they
should
have
some
public
open
space,
whether
it
be
a
park
or
dog
park
or
whatever
they
want
to
put
in.
But
but
I
can't
see
that
on
a
single
parcel
for
a
single
building
type
of
a
thing,
I
think.
H
AH
B
So
you
can
figure
out
how
the
verbiage
has
got
to
come
out,
but
for
for
a
single
property
like
the
U-Save
or
or
the
Best
Western
or
whatever,
but
I
had
so
many
names,
but
for
a
property
like
that,
I
think,
if
you
just
say
public
space
that
covers
all
the
bases
for
whatever
they
want
to
put
in
there
that's
open
to
the
public,
but
if
you're
building
a
mixed-use
development,
then
they
do
have
to
have
public
open
space,
whether
it
be
a
park
or
something
like
that.
AH
That's
good
so
again,
this
slide
just
reiterates
what
we
we
just
talked
about
in
terms
of
those
requirements
going
for
technical
staff,
technical
review,
so
everything
will
go
through
staff,
technical
review,
but
the
the
off-site
parking
fee
and
Lou
and
then
those
those
Marina
pieces
will
come
back
to
city
council
to
ensure
that
the
provisions
that
they're
providing
sort
of
the
operation
that
they're
proposing
is
suitable
and
meets
the
intent
of
the
code.
AH
And
then,
of
course,
if
there's
fee
and
Lou,
then
obviously
that's
a
financial
decision
that
the
the
city
and
the
developer
have
to
come
to
agreement
on.
B
So
I'm
going
to
bring
something
up,
that's
the
elephant
in
the
room,
and
that
is
of
course
the
building
height
issue.
I
know:
we've
had
a
hundred
thousand
discussions
since
I've
been
on
city
council
about
this,
but
I
have
spent
a
lot
of
time
over
the
past
four
or
five
months,
talking
with
all
kinds
of
people
in
the
community
developers,
property
owners
and
City
staff.
B
Don't
think
that
there's
any
way
we
can
get
around
that
because
we
have
so
many
different
property
elevations
in
the
city
center
that
you
might
have
two
properties
side
by
side
that
want
to
be
developed
as
a
single
parcel
and
they
all
have
to
be
raised
up
to
above
BFE
If
part
of
it's
already
there
and
part
of
it's
not,
and
so
there's
no
other
way
to
do
it.
Other
than
to
allow
80
feet
above
BFE,
in
my
opinion,
so
I
think
we
do
have
to
reconsider
that.
AA
From
a
legal
perspective,
I
totally
agree
with
that,
because
every
time
that
you
have
a
discussion
regarding
what
is
the
grade
level,
it's
it's
subjective,
right
and
but
I
would
I
would
modify
the
suggestion
because
we
don't
face
anything
on
BFB.
We
base
things
height
on
BFE
plus
free
board,
so
it
would
have
to
be
included
in
that.
AA
Only
the
only
and
that
that
would
be
true
with
respect
to
current
requirements,
but
BFE
was
was
the
standard
for
a
long
time
and
then
the
building
code
decided
to
add
one
foot
for
free
board.
They
may
decide
one
and
a
half
foot
or
two
feet
so
I
would
just
say:
free
board
is
a
is
a
defined
number,
and
so
it
may
change.
So
so
does
the
B
change
so
I
would
just
say
BFE
plus
Freeport.
We
can
look
into
that
or
look
that
up
every
time
there's
an
application.
I
can
live
with
it.
AC
I
agree:
I
know
that
I've
been
having
a
lot
of
conversations
and
we
really
got
into
the
grade
issue
and
and
really
my
thought
is
well
stopping
somebody
that
owns
a
property
to
bring
in
Phil
bringing
that
Phil
up
already
and
now
they
already
have
five
foot
of
dirt
in
there
and
now
they're,
you
know
so
they're
they're
kind
of
skewing
the
system
so
I
think
that
that
could
get
into
a
Pandora's,
Box
and
I
think
doing
the
80
above
BFE,
plus
free
board
is
is
going
to
be,
is
going
to
be
better
all
around
my
question
is
this:
if
I'm
not
mistaken
right
now,
our
code
allows
for
20
I,
believe
it's
20
of
accoutrements
am
I,
saying
that
correctly,
you
know
prettiness.
AC
Want
to
call
it
so
if
we
do
that
80
above
BFE,
is
that
20
still
out
of
there
or
is
that
something
we
would
have
to
discuss
if
we
want
to
back
in
out
or.
AH
So
in
the
current
code,
there's
a
very
there's,
a
specific
section
in
general
standards
of
applicability
which
allows
it's
like
article
8
that
has
exclusions
from
Building
height,
so
those
exclusions
are
spelled
out
and
it's
pretty
vague.
It's
just
a
list
of
things
that
could
be
above
the
habitable
space
of
the
building.
AH
Above
the
habitable
space,
in
a
building
so
above
the
roof
that
section
in,
in
my
humble
opinion,
probably
needed
to
be
revised
a
long
time
ago,
because
it
doesn't
make
a
lot
of
sense.
The
way
it's
written
now.
So,
if
we
have,
if
counsel
wants,
we
can
go
back
revisit
that
section
find
a
way
to
to
tighten
it
down
so
that
we're
getting
architectural
features
that
are
pretty.
AC
Because
I
don't
want
to
have
a
flat
top
because
they
have
to
you
know
worry
about
their
air
conditioning
systems.
I
want
that.
You
know
articulated
Skyline
and
I
would
just
state
that
if
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
again
or
whatnot,
to
avoid
having
that,
you
know
kind
of
boxed.
Look
because
again,
if
you're
talking
about
this
height
you're
going
to
have
elevators
in
there,
okay
and
those
mechanics
need
to
be
hidden.
You
know
so
I
just
want
to
put
that
out.
There.
AF
Okay,
but
I
am
100
in
line
with
where
you're
at
that's.
What
I
was
going
to
suggest
is.
You
know
the
I'm
perfectly
fine,
with
the
above
BFE
and
freeboard
as
long
as
we
revisit
this
other
section
and
make
a
make
room
for
the
rooftop
accoutrements
I
mean
you
got
to
have
the
cupolas
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
because
that's
what
makes
it
quaint
well.
H
In
our
what
is
it
chapter?
Seven,
the
architectural
standards
that
we
go
over
in
the
ldrs
I
mean
we're
requiring
those
standards
so
that
we
don't
have
flat
roofs
and
if
you
don't
have
the
ability
to
put
those
above
what
we're
talking
about
then
you've
just
flattened
everything
out
right
and
you've.
Really
it's
a
good
point.
B
AE
We're
still
on
that
particular
slide.
Number
three
go
to
downtown
core.
Can
we
agree
on
the
60
and
that's
because
that's
the
way,
the
only
way
the
numbers
work,
the
highest
rent
being
charged
in
Punta
Gorda
right
now,
is
down
to
where
Starbucks
is,
and
that
started
out
as
forty
five
dollars
a
square
foot
and
if
you
notice
there's
only
big
companies
and
they
can
afford
to
do
that.
The
rent
at
the
sun
love
Center
as
an
example.
They
started
out
of
22..
AE
AE
We've
got
to
get
within
the
number
that
works
for
the
developer
and
the
people
that
are
going
to
move
into
those
buildings
into
the
into
those
dwellings
and
60
works.
If
you
keep
it
45
that
the
rent
numbers
would
have
to
be
so
high
in
order
for
the
developer
to
recoup
their
money
that
the
people
aren't
going
to
move
in,
so.
AC
May
I
ask
what
size
would
look
like
I'm
more
of
a
visual,
so
I
mean
what
kind
of
just
to
me
that
just
sounds
so
what
size
are
we
looking
at
like
from
a
condo
standpoint
or
a
apartment,
you're.
AE
AC
AE
H
AF
That's
what
I
was
going
to
say.
We
have
to
be
really
careful
here,
because
the
density
thing,
if
we
tighten
it
down
in
other
words,
say
you
got
to
have
45
they
do
their
calculations
and
they'll
go.
Oh,
you
know
it's
really,
probably
better
off.
For
me
to
do
a
live
local
thing,
because
then
I
can
do
whatever
I
want,
regardless
of
what
the
city
code
is,
so
we're
probably
better
off
being
a
little
bit
more
enticing
to
them
and
and
go
to
60
and
that
way
they're
not
going
to
make
that
choice.
AE
Exactly
right,
so
you
don't
have
to
right.
It
just
works.
The
numbers
work
then
for
the
developer,
as
well
as
the
people
moving
in
I
think
we're
looking
at
some
sort
of
shops
and
stuff
on
the
bottom,
we're
probably
looking
at
some
offices
and
then
some
living
above,
because
what
we're,
obviously
to
me,
the
shop,
the
restaurants
and
everything
else
and
other
Future
Shops.
We
want
those
people
to
come
down
out
of
those
buildings
pass
through
all
those
places
and
enjoy
themselves.
They
go
back
up
and
yeah.
AF
And,
and
not
only
not
only
that
part
of
the
banks
Pro
that
they
look
at
the
performa
is
going
to
say
how
many
people
are
actually
up
there
and
how
many
people
are
likely
to
come
down
and
make
those
businesses
a
success,
because
if
you
don't
have
enough
people
to
make
them
a
success,
the
bank
is
going
to
say:
you're
not
going
to
I,
don't
I'm,
not
in
I'm.
All
out
was
that
the
Shark
Tank
or
which
one
I'm
out.
That's
that's
exactly
what
will
happen
so?
AC
That
road,
yes,
okay,
so
again,
just
just
thinking
because
again
45
to
60
just
sounds
like
a
huge
jump.
Thank
you.
What
I
don't
want
is
when
we
get
into
you
know:
800
900,
foot
Apartments,
now
you've
got
twice
amount
of
people
living
there.
You
have
twice
amount
of
of
stress
on
our
infrastructure
and
our
services
and
whatnot.
AC
So
again,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
the
record
so
45
right
now,
you're
looking
at
you
know,
bigger
places,
smaller
plate,
bigger
places,
less
people
more
expensive.
We
just
jumped
to
60
you're,
not
necessarily
cramming
more
people
into
that
building,
you're
allowing
for
still
12.
You
know,
1100
to
1200
square
foot,
call
departments
or
condos
your.
AE
H
Not
going
to
have
problems
are,
but
the
reason
too
that
when
you
do
the
calculation
I
mean
you
can't
obviously
just
do
60
times
a
thousand
square
feet
and
get
you
know.
That's
because
that
doesn't
work
on
you
know
per
acre
but
you're,
calculating
based
on
total
acreage
of
the
site,
not
just
acreage
of
that
building,
so
you
can
still
have
a
unit,
that's
affordable
in
size
and
the
infrastructure
of
course,
they're
going
to
have
to
pay
for
more
infrastructure.
H
B
A
H
What
about
well,
that's
another
one
I
think
we're
just
about
finished.
We
just
need
to
know
what
to
do
for
the
day.
Dots
versus.
AC
AG
AC
The
under
25
excuse
me
the
under
20
000
requirements.
I
was
the
one
that
actually
originally
asked
to
put
a
parking
for
residential.
The
only
thing,
I
I,
believe
that
you
missed
is
you
allowed,
which
I
was
happy
with
with
the
one
for
dwelling,
but
that
done
didn't
account
for
retail,
and
essentially
you
can
have
a
doctor's
office
that
builds
there
and
that
there's
no
parking
requirement
for
that
doctor's
office.
So
I
would
like
to
see
at
least
that
one
per
thousand
retail
for
that
as
well
I.
AC
The
only
other
thing
I
have
and
again
I
can
I
can
stop
talking
for
a
minute
but
nope.
This
is
actually
not
on
this
report.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's,
if
it's
appropriate,
we
can
come
back
to
it,
but
there
was
a
something
that
was
brought
to
my
attention
when
it
comes
to
existing
Highway
commercial
District,
that's
going
to
be
changing
to
flex
commercial!
That's
something
you'd
like
to
talk
about
now
or
shall
we
just
wait
or
I?
AC
Can
I
can
tell
you
what
I'm
thinking
and
then
you
can
always
get
back
to
me?
Okay.
So,
if
I'm
wrong,
let
me
know
it's
brought
to
my
attention
that
the
Carmelita
Airport
Road
is
going
to
be
changing
to
a
flex
commercial
instead
of
what
is
the
existing
Highway
commercial
District
in
the
existing
Highway
commercial
District?
AC
Basically,
it
was
allowed
for
mixed
use
residential
non-residential
as
long
as
it
had
more
of
a
commercial
aspect
to
it
with
it
changing
to
a
flex
commercial.
It
basically
says
more.
It
basically
says
multi-family,
no
commercial!
Is
that
correct?
No.
AH
It
it
allows
additional
residential
density
to
incentivize
like
so
right
now,
currently
in
that
area,
the
largest
pieces
of
property
that
we
have
are
our
car
lots
and
as
we
saw
during
the
pandemic
there,
there
may
be
some
significant
changes.
There
were
significant
changes
then,
and
there
may
be
moving
into
the
future
where
they
don't
need
as
much
land,
because
there's
not
as
much
inventory
to
store
that
it's
more
of
a
just-in-time
model
for
them.
AH
So
having
you
know
some
ability
to
take
that
sort
of
Back
40
that
that's
now
just
a
storage
lot
at
the
at
the
gettle
dealerships
and
converting
that
to
residential
uses.
Are
you
ever
going
to
get
commercial
back
there?
No,
because
it's
it's
too
far
away
from
eyeballs
on
the
street,
but
it
may
be
very
viable
as
as
residential.
AC
AC
I
guess
would
be
my
main
question
as
I
think
the
concern
with
myself
and
the
other
person
that
brought
it
up
with
to
me
is
that
I
I
don't
think
we
want
to
go
to
something
where
it
allowed
it
allowed
for
commercial
before
or
required
it,
and
now
we're
going
to
it
doesn't
or
it
won't
and
I
and
I
just
would
like
to
know
more
about
that.
So,
okay,
that
could
be
a
different
conversation.
Okay,
excellent.
AF
Docs
are
not
going
to
be
slips,
they're
going
to
be
along
in
attenuator
like
we
have
at
fishville
or
at
excuse
me
at
Lashley,
or
it's
going
to
be
more
of
a
dock
like
is
what's
behind
appear,
so
so
what
you're,
probably
going
to
need
to
do
is
you're,
probably
going
to
need
to
get
with
the
mac
and
figure
out
what
is
like
an
average
number
because
you're
going
to
have
a
dock,
you
know
200
feet
long
and
how
many
of
those
are
slips?
You
know
the
the
property
owner
is
going
to
say.
AF
Oh
well,
10
feet
is
a
slip.
Well,
10
feet
is
not
a
slip,
so
they
can
put
a
lot
of
slips
in
there.
So,
if
you're
going
to
have
to
Define,
not
just
slips
you're
going
to
have
to
define
a
length
and
I'm
sure
the
Mac
is
going
to
have
some
kind
of
input
on
what
an
average
boat
size
or
something
they'll
have
some
way
to
help
Define
what
that
is.
AF
H
AE
I
mean
the
more
I
think
about
this.
The
more
I
get
a
little
bit
uneasy
about
it.
I
I
think
maybe
we
might
be
better
off
if
we
go
with
it
to
a
Docs,
the
county,
with
the
county
working
with
the
county
and
behind
the
event
center,
and
not
try
to
settle
that
with
somebody.
That's
going
to
build
something
downtown
on
the
waterfront
I
that
way,
we'd
get
the
what
councilman
karovski
wanted.
AE
B
AF
They
are
going
to
come
to
us
and
they
are
going
to
ask
for
additional
height
whether
hey
I
want
to
do
a
65
feet
or
I
want
to
do
80
feet.
That's
still
in
play,
even
though
we've
agreed
to
above
base
flood
plus
they
still
going
to
come
to
us
and
they're,
going
to
ask
for
something.
When
what
what
this
does
is
say:
okay,
we
will
allow
you
to
go
to
65
or
the
full
80,
but
in
order
to
do
that,
we
need
you
to
do
this
now.
AF
If
you
want
to
build
a
marina,
that's
fine,
but
we
need
you
to
do
some
day,
docs
as
well
we're
getting
what
we
want,
rather
than
just
what
they
want
and
I.
Don't
think,
there's
any
legal
issue
with
doing
that,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
contract
that
they're
going
to
agree
or
not
agree
to
do
that.
I.
Don't
think,
there's
a
liability
issue,
because
we
already
do
that
and
and
if
they
build
a
marina
they're
going
to
have
all
kinds
of
insurance
for
the
marina.
It's
it's
not
an
issue.
AF
This
is
a
matter
and
I
agree
with
we
need
in
addition
to
this,
we
need
something
behind
the
event
center,
but,
as
they
said
at
the
commissioner's
meeting,
that
is
years
down
the
road
years
down
the
road
this.
This
is
I
think
much
nearer
term,
because
there
probably
is
going
to
be
something
that
happens,
especially
with
that
one
particular
property,
but
other
properties,
that's
going
to
be
a
quicker
fix
than
than
just
waiting
for
something
to
happen
at
the
Event
Center.
AA
AA
That
would
be
problematic
from
a
legal
perspective,
but
all,
but
what
we're
doing
here
is
simply
saying
that:
okay,
look!
If
you
want
more
than
the
maximum
height,
then
what
you
need
to
do
is
something
to
benefit
the
public
and
then
they
have
the
opportunity
to
decide.
Okay,
do
I
want
to
assume
the
liability.
Is
that
worth
it
for
me
for
the
additional
height
or
not
we're
not
imposing
anything
on
them
whatsoever?
So
there's
not
additional
liability
understand
on
the
part
of
the
city
who
are
letting
them
have
that
choice.
H
AF
B
You
know,
it's
not
it's
not
a
pull
into
a
slip,
kind
of
a
thing
and
I
think
if,
if
the
marina
wants
to
allow
additional
votes
for
coming
in
for
a
lunch
Cruise
or
something
like
that,
they
can
use
the
slips
if
they
need
to.
But
but
let's
get
some
more
research
on
it
before
we
make
a
final
decision
on
that
I'll.
H
Just
say
with
that
research
remember
here,
I'm
back
to
minimum,
because
right
now
you're
only
a
requirement
to
put
in
five
docks
so
right.
You
know
when
Mac
looks
at
it
and
they're
not
going
to
say
well,
if
you
have
60
10
of
those
need
to
be
detox
if
you're
only
requiring
five,
so
they
have
to
look
at
it
at
a
very
small
scale.
If
you
go
80
feet
there,
you're
only
saying
they
have
to
put
in
20
slips
or
10
docs.
AF
AF
I'm
trying
to
avoid
is
somebody
saying:
okay,
I'm,
going
to
give
you
a
50
feet
of
dock
and
that's
going
to
count
as
five
slips,
because
guess
what
you
bring
one
boat
in
and
it's
50
feet
right
and
and
there'll
be
more
smaller
boats,
but
there'll
be
some
bigger
boats.
So
we
got
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
outsmart
ourselves
did.
AA
It
yeah-
and
this
may
be
something
else-
that
this
staff
can
look
into
when
they're
looking
at
this,
bear
in
mind
that
that,
if
we're
more
than
likely
talking
about,
if
not
absolutely
talking
about
marinas
that
are
going
to
need
to
get
Sovereign
submerged
lands
leases
from
the
state
yeah,
the
state
would
have
a
requirement
that
10
of
the
slips
be
may
be
open
to
the
public
on
a
first
come
first
served
basis.
So,
instead
of
having
a
total
number
of
slips,
if
we
wanted
to
add,
maybe
instead.
AI
AA
The
10
percent
make
it
you
know
12
or
15.
That
would
be
consistent
kind
of
what
they're
planning
that
to
meet
the
stage
requirements,
so
I
might
want
a
percentage,
as
opposed
to
X
number
of
Slims.
AC
AH
So
for
the
The
Interchange
commercial
overlay
area,
so
the
Jones
Loop
Road
area
that
was
modified
and
within
this
Flex
commercial
area,
the
difference
there
is
they're
smaller
watch
generally
and
the
developers
we
have.
You
know
typical
Suburban
developments
like
Dollar,
General
or
Waffle
House,
even
auto
parts
store
that
have
built
to
the
standards
and
their
their
buildings,
face
streetward
and
make
sense.
AH
So
the
flex
commercial
does
give
them
a
little
bit
more.
Flexibility
and
I
think
that
that
will
be
sufficient
there.
There
is,
of
course,
once
you
get
south
of
airport
road,
so
south
of
Airport
Road
along
41..
That's
another
issue
that
may
need
to
be
addressed
with
a
future
update
with
the
interchange,
commercial
overlay
that
was
really
specific
to
that
area
and
does
allow
building
Heights
that
that
maybe
would
be
unpalatable
along
41.
So
so.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
I
think
we're
done
with
that
all
right.
Let's
take
a
five
minute
break
and
we'll
be
back
at
12
30
seconds
I.
Guess
we
missed
the
Meridian
event.
X
W
We
are
releasing
the
reviewed
elements
now
to
give
everyone
as
much
time
as
possible
to
provide
us
with
feedback
before
they
are
due
to
the
state
in
November.
Throughout
this
process.
Up
until
the
city
council
recommends
transmitting
these
amendments
to
the
state,
Urban
Design
staff
will
receive
and
review
comments
from
the
public
and
boarding
committee
members
about
the
proposed
amendments.
W
There
are
two
types
of
amendments:
qualitative
or
normative.
Amendments
are
driven
by
the
community's
vision
and
best
management
practices
and
used
to
determine
the
kind
of
change
we
want
to
see
and
how
we
ought
to
go
about
it.
They
are
used
to
define
what
success
or
failure
in
achieving
our
goals
looks
like
and
evaluate
our
progress
based
on
what
we
have
judged
as
a
community
to
be
important.
W
Other
amendments
are
quantitative.
They
are
based
on
data
and
Analysis.
These
types
of
amendments
were
made
by
replacing
old
data
with
recent
facts
and
figures
from
reliable
sources.
For
example,
data
was
taken
from
the
U.S
census,
the
Bureau
of
Economic
and
Business
research,
the
southwest
Florida
Water
Management
District,
the
coastal
and
Heartland
National
Estuary
partnership
and
professional
Consultants.
W
Qualitative
amendments
fall
into
three
General
categories:
there
have
been
a
few
federal
state,
Regional
and
County
regulatory
updates,
new
legislation
has
been
adopted
and
old
legislation
has
been
repealed.
Many
amendments
have
been
made
to
incorporate
new
directives
specifically
concerning
water
quality
issues
and
resilience
strategies.
W
The
city
has
undertaken
major
planning
and
visioning
studies
through
the
Charlotte
and
public
input
processes
that
led
up
to
the
2019
master
plan.
A
firm
Community
Vision
was
established
for
Punta
Gorda.
Other
planning
studies
that
happened
around
this
time
helped
formulate
new
goals,
objectives
and
policies
that
fit
and
gave
impetus
to
Punta
gorda's
vision,
City
discussions
during
public
meetings,
internal
reports
and
stakeholder
input
helped
to
make
recommendations
in
finer
detail.
They
give
boots
on
the
ground
insight
to
what
actually
works
and
is
needed
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
establish
realistic
expectations
for
policies
and
programs.
W
The
purpose
of
the
infrastructure
element
is
to
guide
the
provision
of
water
and
sewer
solid
waste
and
storm
water
infrastructure
to
ensure
these
services
are
available
to
the
community
as
it
expands
infrastructure
provision
is
also
a
way
of
guiding
development,
namely
expanding
in
ways
that
promote
a
compact
and
contiguous
development
pattern.
The
adopted
comprehensive
plan
outlined
and
supported
these
Concepts
well,
however,
the
inventory
of
potable
water
sources
had
to
be
updated
with
reports
from
Corolla
engineers
and
Florida
administrative
code
rules
21-25
regarding
infrastructure
were
revoked.
W
The
major
changes
that
occurred
since
the
last
comprehensive
Plan
update
are
Senate
Bill
712,
the
clean
waterways
act
and
executive
order.
2306,
the
new
state
legislation
focuses
on
nutrient
load
reduction
for
surface
ground
Waters.
Through
these
initiatives
in
the
Wastewater
grant
program,
the
state
has
increased
funding
for
advanced
wastewater
treatment,
upgrades
septic
to
sewer
conversions,
storm
water
management,
water
quality
monitoring
and
resilience
projects.
The
clean
waterways
act
has
also
strengthened
regulatory
requirements
that
are
enforced
and
monitored
by
the
regional
permitting
bodies.
W
Punta
Gorda
has
entered
into
a
Wastewater
Mutual
aid
program
with
other
local
governments
in
Florida,
which
successfully
helped
us
obtain
emergency
assistance.
After
Hurricane
Ian,
the
utilities
after
Action
Report,
the
city's
climate
adaptation
plan
and
the
2018
vulnerabilities
assessment
were
used
to
identify
the
areas
of
infrastructure
that
are
most
susceptible
to
incurring
storm
damage
in
the
most
efficient
ways
to
restore
them.
This
information
was
used
to
update
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
by
deleting
policies
that
no
longer
apply
in
adding
policies
that
support
new
state
directives,
Regional
permitting
Authority
requirements
and
best
management
practices.
W
The
community
facilities
and
services
element
identifies
and
describes
the
locations
and
Arrangements
of
the
city's
facilities
and
the
services
provided,
and
the
previous
comprehensive
plan
Services
were
Loosely,
explained
and
supported
in
the
proposed
amendment.
Emphasis
was
given
to
them
because
of
the
role
they
play
in
Emergency
Management
response.
Particular
emphasis
was
given
to
Communications
infrastructure.
W
Significant
Federal
funding
has
been
allocated
for
infrastructure
hardening
under
Public
Law
11758
aka,
the
infant
infrastructure,
investment
and
jobs
act.
Additionally,
FEMA's
update,
update
to
the
flood
plain
Maps
will
influence
deciding
of
future
Community
facilities.
Considerable
updates
to
the
facilities
and
services
inventory
were
made
to
address
the
city's
response
to
population
growth
and
the
actions
that
have
been
taken
to
centralized
development
in
the
downtown
area.
W
The
proposed
conservation
element
amendments
addressed
changes
that
were
made
across
all
levels
of
government
concerning
water
quality,
hydrologic
restoration
and
conservation.
The
previous
comprehensive
plan
did
not
adequately
explain
how
these
can
be
applied
as
resilient
strategies.
Information
was
also
added
to
bring
the
element
up
to
date
with
the
latest
study
and
regulations.
W
Senate,
Bill
712,
the
clean
waterways
act
prioritizes,
reducing
nutrient
pollution
and
increasing
water
quality
monitoring
in
an
effort
to
reduce
harmful
algal
blooms
and
seagrass
laws.
Executive
order,
2306
grants
added
funding
to
the
programs
outlined
in
the
clean
waterways
act
and
expands
it
to
include
addressing
the
impacts
of
stormwater
runoff,
providing
expedited
Hurricane
Relief
and
supporting
the
completion
of
comprehensive
vulnerability
assessments
for
Florida's
municipalities.
The
most
recent
China
comprehensive
conservation
and
management
plan
and
Swift
Mud
surface
water,
Improvement
Management
program
seek
to
address
the
issues
of
blue-green
algae
red
tide,
algal
blooms
and
seagrass
laws.
W
They
both
stress
the
importance
of
reducing
nutrient
loading
to
surface
water
by
managing
Agricultural
and
storm
water.
Runoff.
To
achieve
this,
many
of
the
state's
conservation
programs
have
been
retargeted
towards
hydrologic
restoration
and
land
acquisition
as
a
means
of
improving
water
quality.
Swift
Mud,
the
Florida
Department,
the
Department
of
Environmental
Protection
and
other
stakeholder
groups
have
begun
projects
in
the
Charlotte
Harbor
Watershed
adjacent
to
Punta
Gorda
to
fill
in
finger
dredges
and
restore
the
pine
Flatwoods.
These
projects
have
the
added
benefit
of
providing
flood
protection
by
preserving
natural
drainage
patterns.
W
Fema
also
recognizes
that
nature-based
components
and
conservation
strategies
reduce
flood
risks.
Their
Community
rating
system
details
how
linking
habitat
protection
and
restoration
mitigates
flood
risks.
These
resilience
strategies
were
included
in
the
city's
climate
adaptation
plan,
along
with
natural
Shoreline
retention
and
oyster
Reef
cultivation.
W
Climate
change,
adaptation,
emergency
preparedness
and
Emissions
reduction
are
methods
of
hardening
facilities
and
making
the
community
more
resilient.
They
fall
under
the
Strategic
plan.
Priority
of
financial
economic
sustainability.
There
are
ample
opportunities
through
the
federal
and
state
government
to
pursue
grant
funding
for
programs
that
can
reduce
carbon
emissions,
improve
water
quality,
Harden
infrastructure
and
expand
Communications
through
Partnerships
in
collaboration.
The
city
is
well
positioned
to
take
advantage
of
programs
and
continue
to
build
the
community
we've
all
envisioned
one
that
has
an
outstanding
quality
of
life.
W
Enhanced
by
our
proximity
to
the
harbor,
are
not
destroyed
by
it
where
we
can
enjoy
the
beautiful
Ecology
of
Southwest
Florida
without
continually
rebuilding
our
subtropical
City.
The
updated
comprehensive
plan
needs
to
reflect
this
vision
and
firmly
identify
policies
that
can
be
successfully
implemented
and
achieved.
W
The
Planning
Commission
expressed
concerns
about
the
preservation
of
Punta,
gorda's,
air
and
water
quality.
In
the
face
of
development
they
cited
Environmental
Studies
conducted
in
the
Chesapeake
Bay
about
the
effects
of
automobile
Emissions
on
water
quality.
They
also
expressed
an
interest
in
pursuing
Green
Building
policies
like
those
adopted
by
Sarasota.
These
strategies
can
be
included
in
the
community
facilities
and
services
element
by
requiring
the
city-owned
facilities
and
vehicles
meet
higher
resource,
efficient
standards
that
minimize
the
environmental
impact.
V
AH
H
B
W
W
If
you
would
like
to
review
them
and
provide
me
with
comments
before
I
present
to
on
that
I
present
about
them
next
time,
I
think
July
24th.
Is
it
a
that
way?
I
can
address
your
comments
at
that
presentation.
Okay
and.
H
B
All
right
last
major
item
on
our
regular
agenda
is
the
city
clerk
appointment.
As
everyone
knows,
our
city
clerk
has
given
us
her
notice
that
she
will
be
retiring
on
October.
2Nd
would
be
her
last
day.
Right.
Is
that
correct?
So
I
asked
for
this
to
be
put
on
the
agenda,
because
a
couple
of
weeks
have
gone
by
since
we
received
that
notice
and
we're
about
three
months
out
before
that
date
occurs.
B
It
is
a
charter
officer
position
for
the
city,
so
I
think
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
very
best
person
that
we
can
find
for
the
position
to
fill
the
position
and
also
there
there
is
going
to
be
an
election
this
year.
That's
a
standalone
election
that
the
city
has
to
oversee,
and
so
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
get
somebody
in
place.
B
B
So
I
think
I
think
it
would
be
in
our
best
interest
to
put
the
notice
out
to
start
collecting
resumes
at
this
time
and
be
prepared
to
review
those
resumes
and
come
up
with
a
list
of
potential
top
five
candidates
that
we
would
like
to
interview
so
that
when
we
come
back
from
our
August
from
our
July
August
break,
we
can
do
interviews
and
get
somebody
on
the
on
the
hook.
B
AE
I
think
we
send
a
bad
message
out
to
our
employees.
Well,
if
we're
going
to
get
down
that
road,
we've
got
an
employee
who
took
the
initiative,
went
after
and
got
all
her
credentials
and
all
the
rest
of
that
stuff
and
she's
ready
to
go
she's
in-house
and
I.
Think
we
send
that
message
to
our
employees
that
Hey
listen.
You
work
hard
we're
going
to
reward
you.
AE
AF
AC
AJ
So
can
I
suggest
that
we
do
it
maybe
on
an
interim
basis,
because
I'm,
a
big
supporter
of
the
individual
I,
think
we're
all
referring
to,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
there
is
some
work
that
should
be
done
on
presentation,
skills
and
you
know
developing
more
of
a
presence,
because
again,
this
is
an
important
position.
I
think
it's
people
need
to
have
confidence
and
the
individual
who's
in
the
role
I'm,
not
saying
it's
a
competence
thing,
but
I'm
thinking
it's
more
of
a
style
and
a
presentation.
AC
Well,
I
think
the
nice
thing
is.
We
did
change
that
where
the
city
clerk
is
under
the
purview
of
the
city
manager
now
and
I.
Think
with
that
now
that
you
know,
even
though
it's
been
under
our
purview,
to
kind
of
give
that
Direction,
depending
on
how
we
decide
the
direction
I,
think
that
it's
up
to
Greg
to
have
conversations
with
that
person
and-
and
you
know
Mentor
for
the
next
few
months
and
that's
where
I
stand.
AF
Kind
of
a
separate,
related
issue
on
that
Alliance,
the
org
chart
is
not
correct.
I
saw
somewhere
I,
don't
know
in
the
mountain
of
paperwork
that
we
read
for
this
meeting
somewhere
in
there
there
was
an
org
chart
and
it
still
shows
the
clerk
reporting
to
council.
B
I'm
still
of
the
opinion
that
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
we
have
the
very
best
person
we
can
find
for
that
for
that
seat
and
I'm
not
saying
it's
not
somebody
from
current
staff,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
see
if
there's
anybody
else
out
there
that
might
better
fit
the
seat.
That's
all
I
can
say
so.
AC
So
I'll
make
a
motion
that
we
I
want
to
say
this
basically
higher
within
and
look
within
the
city
for
the
next
candidate
for
City
Council.
AE
AC
B
B
AJ
B
Opposed
I,
okay,
so
the
motion
carries
four
to
one
so
Mr
Marie.
Would
you
please
communicate
with
HR
about
this
and
report
back
to
us
I.
AD
AD
For
the
Punta
Gorda
Housing
Authority
Miss,
Alexia
Martin
has
expressed
an
interest
in
serving.
She
was
here
today
to
introduce
herself
I.
AD
AE
B
A
AD
You
and
then
lastly,
we
have
an
appointment
to
the
Planning
Commission.
We
have
two
applicants
before
you
move
forward
on
okay,
you're,
already
buddy,
that's
okay,
council
member
korski
had
suggested
that
we
offer
the
regular
seat
to
the
person
who
had
the
most
votes
and
we
do
have
an
alternate
seat,
so
he
had
suggested
the
alternate
seat
go
to
the
other
person.
Since
we
have
two
seats
and
two
people,
if
you'd
like
to
do
that
before
I
count
the
votes,
if
you
could
dude.
AD
V
AD
This
is
an
annual
request
from
the
Florida
League
of
cities
for
any
City
who
is
sending
delegates
to
the
annual
conference.
They
hold
their
annual
business
meeting
and
they
ask
cities
to
designate
one
of
those
delegates
to
be
the
voting
Delegate
for
the
city
in
in
the
past.
When
the
mayor
has
attended.
The
mayor
has
been
the
voting
delegate,
but
it's
that's
up
to
each
individual
Council
to
decide.
AD
AD
H
Just
two
things:
one
thank
you
for
the
discussion
today.
I
know.
Staff
has
been
working
very
hard
to
try
to
get
these
LD
odors
finished
so
that
we
can
move
forward.
So
we'll
take
the
discussion
today,
we'll
summarize
that
put
it
back
in
the
presentation
and
we'll
be
bringing
that
in
fairly
quickly
to
try
to
get
those
complete
through
the
process
back
to
planning
back
to
council
and
uproot.
So
thank
you
for
that
discussion.
Secondly,
Bayfront
Center.
Likewise
the
meetings
of
the
gun.
H
The
second
meeting
is
this
Friday
at
the
Punta
Gorda
branch
of
the
Charlotte
County
Library
off
stream,
Shreve
next
to
the
history
park,
I
believe
it's
at
1
30.,
so
if
anyone's
interested
in
attending
that,
that's
where
it
will
be
and
what
they'll
be
discussing
and
that's
it
for
now.
Thank
you.
Okay,
City.
B
Okay,
city
clerk,
anything
additional
okay,
I
just
have
a
couple
of
quick
things:
the
just
a
reminder
to
everybody.
The
July
City
Council
meetings
have
a
revised
schedule
because
of
Summer
Hiatus,
so
city
council
will
be
meeting
on
the
first
and
the
second
Wednesday
of
July.
That
would
be
the
5th
and
the
12th.
Then
we
go
on
a
six-week
summer
Hiatus
and
come
back
on
August
23rd.
So
all
of
those
weeks
in
between
city
council
will
not
be
holding
meetings
or
any
kind
of
organized
activities
for
the
most
part.
B
And
if
you
have
business
that
you
need
to
conduct
with
City
Council
Members,
we
will
still
be
available
by
email
and
by
phone.
Should
you
need
us,
but
we
will
not
be
having
any
formal
meetings
during
that
time
and
I
believe
everyone
has
signed
up
for
the
conference
in
Orlando,
correct,
okay
and
I.
Guess
we
missed
the
Meridian
thing
at
lunch,
but
that's
the
way
it
goes.
Okay,
council
members,
Mr,
kawarski.
AF
Yeah
I
have
one
thing
on
our
legislative
agenda
this
year.
One
of
our
top
priorities
was
the
our
inability
to
regulate
short-term
rentals
because
of
the
preemption.
AF
It
didn't
go
anyplace,
fortunately,
but
the
the
the
legislature
was
actually
looking
to
make
that
even
more
difficult
for
us
and
up
till
now
what
we've
been
advised
is
that,
because
we
didn't
have
ordinances
prior
to
this
preemption
years
ago,
that
we
can't
create
any
ordinances.
However,
in
doing
some
research,
it
does
appear
that
Collier
County
has
recently
passed
ordinances,
St,
John's
County
has
recently
passed
ordinances.
Miami
Beach
has
recently
passed
ordinances
that
have
been
challenging
court
and
the
majority
of
it
actually
held
up
in
court.
AA
So
that
gives
us
better
enforcement
opportunities.
But
the
the
substantive
regulation
of
short-term
rentals
per
se
has
been
fairly
well
recognized
relatively
recently
as
preempted.
If
we
didn't
have
ordinances
in
between
an
ordinance
before
the
state
made
its
statute
preemption
between
the
first
and
second
City
Council
meetings
of
in
July
I'll
be
tending
I.
Think
I
mentioned
this
earlier.
AA
The
annual
Florida
Municipal
attorneys
Association
conference
and
I
took
a
look
at
the
agenda
for
that
meeting
and
I
think
that
short-term
rentals
is
probably
up
for
discussion,
so
I
can
hopefully
be
advised
as
to
the
latest
strategies
with
respect
to
that,
if
not,
then
certainly
be
taking
a
look
at
the
ordinances
that
accounts
members
suggested
and
see.
If
there
is
some
area
for
us
to
provide
additional
protection.
B
Yeah,
it's
it's!
It's
getting
to
be
a
major
problem
around
here.
We've
had
a
lot
of
complaints
from
residents
about
the
level
of
noise
and
all
kinds
of
other
things.
If.
AA
I'm,
not
mistake,
excuse
me
and
I
did
check
yesterday,
the
other
day
the
status
of
the
bill
that
we
all
thought
was
probably
going
to
get
passed
and
provide
additional
regulations,
and
that
would
have
prevented
us
from
taking
the
action
that
we
took.
You
know
to
be
to
try
to
help
enforce
the
ordinances
in
general,
but
fortunately
that
did
not
pass
so
our
ordinance
is
still
valid
as
it's
on
the
books.
AJ
Okay
yeah,
the
only
comment
I'd
like
to
make
is
I
thought.
This
is
one
of
the
best
discussions
I've
observed
on
Building
height
after
many
many
meetings
and
I'm
really
pleased
that
we
came
out
with
something
that
has
the
potential
to
be
commercially
viable,
which,
at
this
point,
we're
not
going
to
get
anything
done
unless
we
have
an
ordinance
that
we
can
work
with
developers
on
so
I
really
appreciated.
The
conversation.
AE
AE
It's
kind
of
odd,
because
she's
sitting
here,
but
the
league
of
cities
has
a
a
award
called
the
Harris
Drew
Municipal
official
award
and
I
would
like
to
nominate
our
mayor
for
that
award
through
the
league
of
cities
and
for
someone
who's
done.
Some
outstanding
work
for
their
City,
the
Everlasting
and
I.
She
meets
that
criteria
and
I
would
like
to
denominator
for
that
award.
AE
B
B
I
know
for
what
we're
talking
about
is
that
the
legislature
passed
a
law
this
year,
a
bill.
I
should
say
that
was
approved
almost
unanimously
by
both
the
house
and
the
Senate,
which
is
going
to
require
all
elected
officials
in
the
State
of
Florida
that
at
the
city
level
to
fill
out,
we
currently
already
fill
out
a
just
Financial
disclosure
form,
which
is
very
vague.
B
It
just
basically
asks
you
what
your
sources
of
income
are
and
it's
to
avoid,
having
someone
in
a
position
where
they
own
property,
where
they
could
potentially
gain
or
lose
financially
from
a
decision.
That's
made
about
that
property,
that's
one
of
the
major
reasons
why
it
exists,
but
the
new
the
new
rule
is
going
to
be
an
extensively
invasive
Financial
disclosure
form
where
you
have
to
State
all
of
your
sources
of
income.
B
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
horrible
for
elected
officials,
because
I
think
it's
going
to
completely
dissuade
people
from
wanting
to
run
for
public
office,
especially
in
smaller
cities,
but
it
you
know
anything,
that's
valued
over
a
thousand
dollars,
whether
it
be
your
house,
a
boat,
your
cars,
your
jewelry
collections,
jewelry,
Furs,
anything
you
might
own.
That's
got
a
value
of
a
thousand
dollars
or
more,
and
you-
and
you
have
to
spell
it
out
in
detail
on
this
form
your
TV
yeah.
B
AI
B
B
It's
ridiculous.
It's
absolutely
ridiculous
and
I
do
think.
That's
going
to
really
dissuade
a
lot
of
people
from
running
for
public
office
in
a
very,
very
disappointed
in
the
legislature
for
passing
that
and
I
and
representative
roach
was
the
person
in
the
house
that
put
that
bill
forward.
So
I'm
very
I'm
very
upset
about
that.
So
anyway,
I
just
had
to
put
that
on
the
record.
I.