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Regular City Council Meeting 5-3-2023
A
B
C
Good
morning,
Cassandra
has
been
with
the
city
for
five
years
now
in
procurement.
She
her
her
initial
background,
was
with
temporary
staffing.
She
came
to
the
city
and
I.
Remember
her
at
her
interview
she
was
very
bubbly
and
lighthearted
and
eager
to
get
to
work.
So
Cassandra
started
as
an
administrative
assistant
in
procurement
and
during
her
journey
in
procurement,
she
has
maintained
her
eagerness
and
her
engaging
personality.
C
She
entered
our
progression
program
and
by
completing
educational
courses
through
the
national
procurement,
Association
and
on-the-job
training.
She
excelled
to
the
assistant
buyer,
then
again
entering
again
the
progression
program.
She
excelled
to
a
buyer
one
and
is
now
a
buyer
too.
So
we
look
forward
to
her
progressing
to
a
senior
purchasing
agent.
C
On
a
personal
note,
Cassandra
Fosters
dogs
until
a
ferova
home
can
be
found
for
them,
and
she
also
volunteers
with
the
non-profit
organization
that
and
she
processes
the
applications
in
order
to
find
the
dogs
they
are
forever
companion.
So
we
do
appreciate
truly
value
her
and
we
certainly
appreciate
her
being
with
the
city.
D
Thank
you.
Well,
everyone
thinks
procurement
spends
money,
but
what
they
really
do
is
keep
us.
They
keep
us
from
spending
money
that
we
don't
have
to
spend
unnecessarily
is
a
very
important
job
and
we
appreciate
the
work
you've
done
over
five
years
and
I
hear
she
has
a
really
tough
boss.
So
indeed,.
B
E
Good
morning
Proclamation
city
of
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
whereas
prayer
is
regarded
by
millions
as
the
most
important
utterance
of
humankind
for
its
benefit
throughout
our
history.
Americans
of
many
religions
and
belief,
systems
have
turned
to
prayer
for
strength,
hope
and
guidance.
Prayer
has
nourished
countless
souls
and
powered
moral
movements,
and
whereas
the
First
Amendment
to
our
constitution
protects
the
rights
of
free
speech
and
religious
liberty,
including
the
right
of
all
Americans
to
pray.
E
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
does
hereby
May
4th
2023.
As
National
Day
of
Prayer,
it
invites
all
citizens
to
observe
this
day
in
ways
appropriate
to
its
importance
and
significance
pass
and
duly
adopted
a
regular
session.
This
third
day
of
May
2023
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
signed
Lynn,
R
Matthews
mayor
and
accepting
is
Pastor
Bob
Carlson
foreign.
F
On
behalf
of
the
faith,
community
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
and
all
who
are
involved
for
this
Proclamation
and
recognizing
the
need
for
prayer
I
think
in
our
day,
with
all
the
difficulties
that
we're
going
through,
not
only
in
the
nation
but
around
the
world,
most
people
would
say
it's
time
to
pray.
I
I
was
thinking
of
a
comedian
I
heard
back
in
the
70s
who
said
when
he
was
in
Vietnam.
There
was
another
Marine
who
carried
with
him
across
a
Star
of
David.
F
Let's
see
a
Buddha
and
a
rabbit's
foot,
he
wanted
to
cover
all
the
bases.
Okay,
well,
my
God,
my
God
is
the
god
of
the
Bible
and
I
trust
him,
but
I'm
so
thankful
that
in
America
we
have
freedom
of
religion,
freedom
of
all
religions,
and
that
is
a
good
thing.
We
know.
Patrick
Henry
is
the
one
who
said
Give
me
liberty
or
give
me
death,
but
to
paraphrase
another
statement
he
made.
He
said
that
though
America
was
founded
primarily
by
Christians.
F
We
have
given
freedom
to
all
people
and
for
their
faith
and
I'm
so
thankful
for
that.
So
I
call
on
you,
whoever
you
are
to
join
us
tomorrow
on
this
National
Day
of
Prayer
Will,
millions
of
people
across
America
will
be
praying
for
America,
and
that
is
to
be,
if
I
understand
correctly,
is
it
still
in
front
of
the
city
hall?
Annex
I
saw
the
construction
there,
I
went
there.
F
B
And
whereas
the
members
of
Florida
law
enforcement
agencies
play
an
essential
role
in
safeguarding
the
rights
and
freedoms
of
our
citizens.
And
whereas
Florida
police
departments
have
grown
to
be
modern
and
scientific
law
enforcement
agencies
which
unceasingly
provide
a
vital
public
service
and
whereas,
during
Police
Week,
let
us
demonstrate
our
appreciation
for
the
unsung
heroes
who
nobly
wear
the
badge
and
put
their
lives
at
risk
to
protect
people
each
and
every
day.
Let
us
honor
the
brave
officers
whose
Bright
Futures
were
cut
short
in
the
line
of
duty.
B
Let
us
come
together
to
help
police,
be
the
partners
and
protectors
our
communities
and
our
nation
need
for
a
safer,
more
just
America.
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
proclaim
the
week
of
May
15
to
19
2023
as
police
week
and
further
proclaims
May
15
2023
as
Peace
Officers,
Memorial
Day,
and
encourages
residents
to
participate
in
celebrations
and
ceremonies
appropriate
to
honor.
B
These
selfless
public
servants
who
put
themselves
In,
Harm's,
Way,
To,
Keep,
Us
Safe
every
day,
Pastor
Dooley,
adopted
in
regular
session
this
third
day
of
May
2023
signed
Lynn,
R
Matthews
mayor
and,
as
you
can
see,
a
lot
of
our
folks
in
blue
are
present
to
receive
and
we're
very,
very
blessed
to
have
them
all
on
our
team.
Thank
you
for
all
that
you
do
for
the
city
and
chief
Davis.
D
D
G
Morning,
everybody
Chief
Pam
Davis,
Punta,
Gorda,
Police
Department.
First
of
all,
thank
you
city
council
for
recognizing
this
this
big
week.
For
us,
it's
truly
an
honor
that
you
guys
presented
this
Proclamation.
The
Punta
Gorda
Police
Department
feels
very
blessed
that
we
have
such
a
great
community
that
supports
us
the
whole
County,
the
city
are
very
supportive
of
law
enforcement.
We've
really
appreciate
it.
G
It's
an
absolute
honor
to
serve
this
city,
National
Police
week's
going
to
be
May
15th
through
the
21st
this
year,
and
it's
obviously
a
time
for
us
to
reflect
and
remember
those
that
lost
their
lives
in
service
to
their
community.
And
you
know
this
job.
We
do
it
because
it's
a
calling,
so
it's
difficult,
but
we
we
have
a
passion
for
it.
G
A
special
note,
the
Charlotte
County
Sheriff's,
Office
fop,
will
be
having
their
fallen
officer,
Memorial
ceremony
on
May
18th
at
6
pm
at
the
William
R
Gaines
Park,
and
it's
especially
difficult
this
year
because
of
the
loss
of
Deputy,
Christopher
Taylor,
so
they're
going
to
honor
his
memory
and
I
just
want
to
say
again.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
to
our
citizens
and
thank
you
city
council,
for
always
being
supportive
and
city
manager
Murray
for
the
great
support
we
feel
here
in
the
city.
Thank
you.
H
Proclamation
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
whereas
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
has
proclaimed
itself
to
be
the
Hibiscus
City
since
1926,
when
plantings
were
provided
throughout
the
city
and
whereas
the
city
adopted
resolution
2177-00
on
March,
the
1st
2000
reaffirming
that
delegation
delegation
and
declaring
itself
to
be
the
city
of
hibiscus
and
whereas
Harry
Golding
made
Punta
Gore
to
his
home
and
was
known
by
many
for
his
world-class
award-winning
hybrid
hibiscus
plants
growing.
Some
sixty
thousand
think
about
that.
Sixty
thousand
varieties
of
hibiscus
over
60
years.
H
Now,
therefore,
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
Proclaim
May
6
2023
as
hibiscus
day
and
encourages
all
residents
to
plant
Hibiscus
to
beautify
the
city
and
continue
the
tradition
which
began
many
years
ago
past
and
duly
adopted
in
regular
session
third
day
of
May
2023
city
of
Punta,
Gorda,
Lynn,
R,
Matthews,
Mary
and
here
to
accept
it
is
Diane.
Munson.
B
B
B
He
named
La
Florida,
thereby
strengthening
the
ties
between
Punta
Gorda
and
its
sister
cities,
and
whereas
the
people
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
wish
to
show
their
appreciation
and
support
to
the
Ponce
de
Leon
conquistadors
for
their
efforts.
In
commemorating
the
memory
of
Juan
Ponce
de
Leon,
through
their
Recreation
of
his
Landing
in
Charlotte
Harbor
their
efforts
at
promoting
cultural
exchanges,
their
support
of
local
organizations
and
Charities
their
dedication
to
history
and
the
Zeal
with
which
they
carry
out
their
activities.
B
Yeah
sorry,
this
is
really
fun.
Now,
therefore,
the
city
of
Council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
does
hereby
Proclaim
May
13
2023
as
Juan
Ponce
de
Leon
Conquistador
day
in
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda,
encouraging
all
citizens
to
join
in
paying
tribute
on
this
day
past
and
Julie,
adopted
in
regular
session
this
third
day
of
May
2023
signed
linar,
Matthews
mayor
and
accepting
our
guys
from
The
Conquistadors.
J
All
right,
my
name
is
Phil
Harris
I
have
the
honor
of
being
the
2023,
Ponce
and
we'd
hope
to
see
you
all
out
there
on
the
13th
at
the
Sheridan
Four
Points,
and
we're
going
to
do
our
annual
Recreation
of
Ponce
de
Leon
Pennsylvania
Landing
in
Charlotte
Harbor
I'd
like
to
have
our
historian
Lindsay.
Give
you
a
little
bit
of
a
history
lesson
on
Ponce
De,
Leon.
I
Good
morning,
most
of
what
was
we
tell
about
the
history
is
really
mentioned
in
the
proclamation,
but
this
organization
is
44
years
old.
This
year
we
started
matter
of
fact
for
Don
Donaldson
and
some
of
the
founders
of
Fisherman's
Village,
where
it
started
in
1979
and
we've
continued
on
since
then
and
have
annually.
You
know
commemorated
the
the
The
Landing
discovery
of
Florida
in
1513
and
we
used
to
do
it
at
Fisherman's
Village.
I
It
was
really
a
chamber
of
commerce
type
of
event
to
promote
to
town,
because
nothing
was
going
on
in
Punta
Gorda
in
1979,
and
so
they
were
trying
to
get
the
village
going
and
going
and
going
well.
Today
we
don't
have
to
do
much.
They
come
automatically
to
the
Village,
of
course,
but
no,
our
organization
has
been
very
involved
in
the
community.
Doing
a
lot
of
things,
and
especially
in
the
capital
we've
been
to
the
capital,
I've
been
participating
parades
when
the
governors
have
been
inaugurated.
We've
been
in.
I
You
know
some
of
the
famous
parades.
Of
course,
you
know
that
Fort
Myers
Parade
of
Lights
and,
of
course,
the
the
one
on
Tampa
Bay,
which
is
the
biggest
probably
the
largest
parade
in
the
nation,
which
is
the
one
they
have
up
there
and
it's
it's
an
immense
parade.
But
anyway
we
do
a
lot
for
the
community.
We
volunteer.
We've
done
a
lot
of
things
such
as
helping
the
boys
out
at
Vermont
and
that's
just
one
of
the
small
things
and
we
give
scholarships
a
matter
of
fact
we're.
I
This
week
we
start
giving
three
scholarships
to
our
high
school
graduates,
basically
a
thousand
dollars
each
and
it's
a
great
event,
and
we
show
up
in
in
these
uniforms
which
gets
gets
everybody
excited
so
anyway.
But
thank
you
all
for
thank
you
for
the
proclamation
and
come
see
us
next
Saturday,
one
o'clock
at
Four,
Points
Hotel
here
in
Punta,
Gorda
for
our
land
and
landing
and
commemoration.
Thank
you
all.
K
B
Okay,
before
we
open
the
floor
for
public
comment,
I
do
have
some
housekeeping
notes.
I
would
like
to
read
into
the
record,
as
I
already
mentioned.
Please
silence
all
personal
devices
as
this
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
it
disrupts
the
proceedings
when
phones
go
off
during
the
meeting.
There
is
a
Code
of
Conduct
in
the
council
chambers
and
it
is
up
on
the
screen
in
front
of
you.
Members
of
the
public
should
familiarize
themselves
with
the
rules
on
the
large
screen.
B
Members
of
the
public
who
wish
to
address
Council
should
use
the
guest
Podium
at
the
center
of
the
room.
The
podium
to
the
right
of
the
stage
is
for
staff
and
applicant
presentations
only
speak
directly
into
the
microphone
and
begin
by
stating
your
name
for
the
record.
Each
person
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak
and
sharing
minutes
is
not
permitted.
Speakers
are
to
direct
all
comments
to
the
city
council,
not
the
audience
or
any
one.
B
Individual
council
member
discussion
between
speakers
and
members
of
the
audience
is
not
permitted
when
there
are
many
individuals
who
wish
to
speak
on
a
specific
subject.
Speakers
should
try
not
to
reiterate
lengthy
comments
made
by
others
to
ensure
an
effective
and
efficient
meeting.
This
ensures
everyone
has
an
opportunity
to
speak
audience
and
speakers
will
be
courteous
in
their
language
and
presentation,
no
applause,
sidebar
conversations
or
booing
before,
during
or
after
any
speakers.
B
Please
refrain
from
talking
in
the
audience
during
the
meeting
as
the
meeting
is
being
recorded,
a
copy
of
any
supporting
documents
displayed
during
the
meeting
must
be
provided
to
the
city
clerk
and
these
documents
become
part
of
the
permanent
record.
The
citizen
comments
portion
of
the
meeting
is
not
intended
to
be
a
question
and
answer
session.
This
is
for
citizen
comments.
Only
council
members
should
refrain
from
answering
impromptu
questions
or
debating
issues
with
members
of
the
public.
L
B
M
M
Today,
85
people
will
be
arraigned
at
our
County
court
and
the
number
one
charge
that
they
will
face
is
driving
without
a
valid
license
with
knowledge
that
they
were
doing
that
and
you'd
say
to
yourself.
Oh
my
goodness.
If
this
is
happening
every
week,
there
are
thousands
of
people
who
are
driving
without
valid
driver's
license
on
the
road,
and
you
would
think
well
where
are
they
coming
from?
And
how
is
this
happening
to
all
these
people?
M
Well,
one
of
the
reasons
this
happens
to
people
is
because
you
you
go
and
you
pay
your
insurance,
usually
online
with
your
credit
card
and
you're.
We
all
know
our
credit
card
sometimes
goes
out
of
date
and
for
a
day
you
may
miss
the
payment
for
your
insurance
and
then
the
DMV
cancels
your
license
and
suspends
it
and
there's
a
it's
called
a
reputable
presumption
of
gills
that
if
they
sent
you
a
notice
in
the
mail,
you
should
have
had
knowledge
that
your
driver's
license
was
suspended.
M
So
I'm
just
want
to
inform
people
that
make
sure
that
your
insurance
is
kept
up
and
that
you
don't
have
any
liens
or
whatnot
and
make
sure
you
can
go
online
and
check
your
DMV
status
because
you
don't
want
to
because
our
Punta
Gorda
police
department
does
a
great
job
of
entering
in
license
plates
through
David
and
Elvis.
I.
M
B
A
And
then
I
hear
a
gentleman
talking
about
boating
and
the
Peace
River
I
want
every
one
of
you
in
this
chamber
today
to
understand
one.
You
can
go
to
Facebook
and
visit
March
against
mosaic,
where
you
can
go
to
Citizen
waters
are
or
you
can
go
to
Tim
Ritchie's
page,
but
the
most
valuable
commodity
we
have
in
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
is
the
Myakka
River,
the
Peace
River
in
Charlotte
Harbor
and
the
faster
each
one
of
you
understand
that
and
that
that
water
is
more
valuable
than
any
development.
A
A
You
know
I,
it's
really
weird
we're
meeting
here
today,
I
thought
we'd
be
back
down
at
our
Convention
Center
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
giving
any
money
to
John,
Lamar
and
I
hope.
All
of
you
have
learned
a
lesson
from
this
that
we
are
not
going
to
have
any
hundred
foot
tall
buildings
in
Fisherman's
Village.
We
don't
care
who
he
sells
it
to
or
if
the
city
takes
it
back,
we
don't
want
that
type
of
traffic.
Here
it's
not
welcome,
and
this
city
council
represents
the
citizens
of
this
city.
A
N
N
She
had
done
it
with
her
husband
when
she
was
married
to
Woody
and
we
continued
that
tradition
and
it
was
so
helpful
when
you'd
go
through
a
tough
day,
whether
you
were
the
patient
or
the
loving
family
member
or
the
caregiver
to
be
able
to
unwind
and
that's
what
Ponce
de
Leon
Park
did
for
me.
So
if
there
are
any
of
any
of
you
residents
who
are
in
that
type
of
a
situation,
I
strongly
suggest
you
go
there.
N
It's
a
it's
a
great
place
to
go
to
see
the
sunsets
Allegiant
travel
is
going
to
be
having
its
first
quarter
earnings
conference
call
today.
I
will
be
listening
to
it
and
see
what
the
analysts
questions
are.
There's
about
10
different
analysts
that
ask
questions
of
John
Redmond
and
to
find
out
what
the
future
may
be
with
regard
to
Sun
Seekers,
and
perhaps
the
1200
employees
that
they
plan
to
hire
and
are
fairly
relatively
short
period
of
time.
N
That
will
also
that
will
be
seen
also
I'll,
be
following
about
a
legion
travel
with
regard
to
the
airline
and
its
the
Department
of
Transportation
at
the
federal
level
to
see
how
that
works
through
with
regard
to
or
will
Viva
area
boosts,
also
be
able
to
have
planes
coming
here
and
Landing.
They
have
right
now
category
two
planes
which
are
not
up
to
the
snuff
of
what
we
fly
in
our
our
skies
here.
N
N
It
is
worth
everyone's
time
to
go
to
their
websites
and
take
a
look
around
and
see
what's
on
those
sites,
not
only
will
you
learn
things
like
who
of
the
great
people
who
are
on
the
board
of
directors
for
those
two
groups,
but
also
you
get
a
chance
to
see
what
they
do
with
the
res
with
the
kids
in
our
group.
Thank.
B
Seeing
no
one
come
forward.
We
will
move
on
to
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
who
has
submitted
a
resume
for
a
border
committee
seat
that
they
would
like
to
run
for.
Please
come
forward
and
introduce
yourself,
and
you
will
have
three
minutes:
okay,
seeing
no
one
come
forward,
we
will
adjourn
as
city
council
and
reconvene
as
the
community
redevelopment
agency.
B
B
D
Well,
it
seems
like
just
last
week
we
talked
about
this
because
we
did.
We
actually
did
so
I,
don't
want
to
go
over
too
much
in
detail
that
we
just
talked
about.
When
we
look
at
our
marine
activity,
you
can
see,
we
still
have
the
14
annual
rentals
and
the
one
live
aboard
from
last
month.
That
was
a
temporary
liver
board
that
really
helps
facilitate.
What's
intended
for
the
marina
with
the
liverboard
and
the
submerged
land
lease
permit.
D
When
we
look
at
our
pump
outs,
you
can
see
we
had
over
2
000
gallons
that
was
pumped
from
89
vessels
in
April
and,
of
course,
that's
2,
370
gallons,
that
we
help
provide
proper
disposal
for
and
help
protect
the
Waters
of
our
Harbor.
So
when
we
look
at
our
projects,
what
I
really
wanted
to
do
was
just
highlight
one,
because
we
just
talked
about
the
others,
and
that
is
the
Leslie
park.
D
Splash
pad
that
says,
vendor
Agreements
are
still
being
negotiated
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
everyone
aware
that
we're
looking
at
the
licensing
requirements
and
things
that
we
would
need
to
finalize
this
type
of
agreement
to
see.
If
we
can
move
forward
with
that,
so
one
way
or
another
we'll
either
move
forward
with
the
contractor.
If
that
doesn't
work
out,
we'll
still
proceed
with
getting
sources
for
construction
of
the
splash
pad
so
film
at
11,
so
to
speak,
we're
not
quite
there,
but
we
are
working
on
it
with
that.
D
What
I
would
really
like
to
do
is
talk
a
little
bit
about
operations
in
the
marina.
The
marina
itself
certainly
has
144
slips.
We
have
our
Mooring
balls.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
that
are
being
worked
on
and
with
that
we
have
a
marina
management
company
that
takes
care
of
operations
of
the
Marino.
On
behalf
of
the
city.
We
know
we
have
a
lot
of
things
that
are
being
worked
on
right
now
and
with
that
a
lot
of
things
that
need
to
be
accomplished.
D
When
we
look
at
the
technology,
that's
used
the
reporting,
that's
done
Etc.
It
certainly
falls
to
the
dock
Master
to
make
sure
that
we're
kept
informed
and
really
manages
that
Marina
in
an
efficient
and
effective
manner.
So
one
of
the
things
we
also
have
there,
of
course,
is
our
pump
out
bait
that
we
talked
about,
and
many
people
ask
well
what
does
that
boot
do?
Where
does
it
do
it?
When
does
it
do
it?
How
does
it
do
it?
D
He
was
very
helpful
to
everyone
in
making
that
happen
and
getting
that
to
feel
more
like
home
and
providing
some
support
that
we
needed
there
so
as
well
as
working
in
the
marina
in
and
around
we've
seen
him
there
for
quite
some
time
and
now
taking
the
new
position.
We're
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
work
with
him
at
the
marina
and
looking
forward
to
what
he
can
do
there.
O
I
hope
we
have
a
great
working
relationship
from
now
on
and
I'm
ready
for
that.
My
name
is
Gary
pishka
I
am
the
new
dock
Master
for
Alaska
Park
Marina.
This
is
actually
my
seventh
day
as
the
official
dock
Master
Siege
manager's
office
asked
me
to
come
down
and
just
speak
a
little
bit
about
the
pump
out
boat
and
where
it
goes
and
what
it
does.
Our
pop-up
boat
runs.
O
Mondays
and
Thursdays
starts
at
8
30
in
the
morning
in
the
marina,
and
it
goes
to
roughly
one
o'clock
the
route
it
takes
is
it
does
last
year
Park
Marina.
First,
all
the
144
slips
go
goes
to
our
stationary
pump
out
station
and
empties.
Then
it
goes
to
our
Mooring
field,
and
then
it
goes
to
Gilcrest
Park,
which
is
Punta.
Gorda
Waterfront
goes
down
to
Ponce
de
Leon.
Park
Channel
goes
down
to
Alligator
Creek.
O
Then
it
goes
all
the
way
back
over
to
Grassy
Point,
which
is
the
Port
Charlotte
Canal
system
Channel
and
then
back
to
our
pump
out
station
and
empties
again
gets
put
back
in
the
stall,
gets
rinsed
down
the
motor
gets
flushed
out
and
it
gets
washed
once
a
week.
Try
to
keep
it
up,
keep
it
serviced
every
year
and
that's
does
about
21
Mile
round
trip
every
every
Monday
and
Thursday
8
to
21
boats
a
day
and
roughly
200
to
500
gallons
per
day.
That's
taken
out
of
the
out
of
the
area.
B
O
D
Thank
you,
sir
I
know
this
isn't
the
first
job
he's
at
or
the
first
time
around
the
block
so
we're
pleased
to
have
his
level
of
experience
coming
back
into
the
marina
and
look
forward
to
working
with
him
as
the
dock
master.
So
the
SS,
clear
head
and
the
subsequent
agreement
with
the
funding
that
we
get,
which
is
one
of
the
things
on
the
consent
agenda
that
verifies.
We
use
that
funding
as
anticipated.
D
We
don't
charge
for
that
service
to
each
individual,
boner
boater,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
we
have
to
stay
in
the
channel
and
basically
protecting
Charlotte
Harbor
and
we're
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
provide
that
service
and
allow
people
to
use
that
and
even
encourage
that,
because
they
don't
have
to
pay
a
large
amount
to
have
their
facilities
pumped
and
disposed
of.
So
that's
a
very
good
thing.
That's
really
alive
for
CRA
at
this
point
be
back
next
month
and
more
of
the
same.
E
Well,
I
had
stated
before
that
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
to
fill
it
at
this
time.
I
know
that
previously
there
was
a
conversation
with
a
a
vote
could
end
in
a
tie.
I
guess
my
rebuttal
is
realistically
and
evoking
in
at
a
tie.
If
we
had
a
council
member
missing,
you
know,
for
example,
it
would
just
it
would
just
the
the
vote
would
just
die.
So
I
don't
think
it's
necessary
at
this
point.
Considering
we're
going
to
try
to
Sunset
it
in
2024.
P
P
B
B
R
Q
F
R
Reviewed
the
ordinance
that
was
presented
at
the
last
city
council
meeting
that
are
related
to
included
activities
taking
place
at
Veterans
Park,
and
you
know
what
I,
what
that
ordinance
reads
and
what
actually
is
taking
place
around
and
around
the
wall,
especially
during
days
where
there
are
ceremonies.
Probably
some
inconsistencies.
So
I'm
just
suggested,
if
that,
if
there
isn't
a
movement
to
move
forward
with
that
ordinance
that
perhaps
we
approach
the
foundation
of
the
wall
committee
to
to
take
a
look
at
that
to
see.
P
D
D
At
the
same
time,
we
have
boots
that
are
moored
right
off
Gilcrest
Park
that
are
still
bringing
dinghies
in
so
that
they
can
resupply
et
cetera,
especially
if
they're
liver
boards,
singular
engineering
department
has
that
email
and
information
and
we'll
be
going
over
there
again.
Of
course,
it's
already
taped
off,
but
this
week
to
see,
if
there's
additional
measures
that
can
be
taken
to
ensure
the
safety
and
and
prevent
any
liability
that
we
may
have.
B
S
This
is
a
resolution
which
I'll
read
by
title.
Only
a
resolution
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Punta,
Gorda
Florida,
amending
the
budget
for
the
fiscal
year,
beginning
October,
1st
2022,
by
providing
for
supplemental
Appropriations
and
amounts
identified
in
exhibit
a
providing
for
severability,
providing
an
effective
date.
D
And
this
one,
if
I,
could
just
further
that
a
little
bit,
you
can
see
that
three
of
the
transfers
that
we
have
in
here,
the
use
and
Source-
are
law
enforcement
grants
that
were
approved
at
the
last
meeting.
So
those
three
are
just
transferring
that
amount
of
money
that
you've
already
agreed
to
into
the
budget.
The
next
is
a
sixty
thousand
dollar
transfer,
that's
from
the
reserves
in
our
building
department.
D
K
B
B
Have
a
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda?
All
those
in
favor,
please
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
motion
carries
unanimously.
Next,
is
the
award
of
amendment
number
eight
to
provide
Construction
Services
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
improvements
to
CDM
Smith
of
Fort
Myers
Florida.
C
B
D
Just
to
add
for
information,
we
did
just
on
May
1st
receive
a
letter
from
Florida
Department
of
Environmental
Protection.
They
authorized
us
and
approved
our
award
of
the
contract
for
70
million
731
689
to
proceed
with
the
wastewater
treatment
plant.
We
have
that
authorization
from
State
revolving
Loan
Fund.
D
D
What
this
project
does
is
completely
reconfigure
the
plant,
because
the
amount
of
flow
with
the
peaking
factors
we
have
today
can
not
be
handled
through
the
plant
so
that
we
can
process
it
and
meet
our
state
permit
and,
of
course,
that's
a
water
quality
issue.
What
we
have
to
do
is
divert
a
lot
of
that
flow
into
holding
Retention
Ponds
until
the
flow
then
recedes
to
a
point
where
we
can
reprocess
it
back
through
the
Bland.
D
Our
hydraulic
capacities
on
the
clarifiers,
all
the
those
things
that
were
originally
designed
decades
ago
are
something
that
need
to
be
completely
updated.
So
our
plan
meets
current
standards
and
can
process
that
material
even
to
a
higher
standard
than
is
currently
required
by
the
state.
But
we
know
additional
standards
are
coming
for
water
quality.
Once
we
do
that,
that
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
then
go
back
and
work
on
our
infrastructure
in
the
system.
Try
to
replace
some
of
the
Aging
pipes.
D
That
utilities
is
now
working
on
help
bring
those
peaking
factors
down
so
that
at
some
point
in
the
future,
when
this
debt
is
largely
paid
off,
if
we
do
need
to
expand
for
capacity,
we
then
have
the
capability
to
do
that
at
a
much
lower
cost
than
in
a
separate
debt
issue,
and
once
this
debt
is
essentially
secured-
and
we
have
our
system
back
in
shape
to
where
the
speaking
factors
are
lower
and
the
plan
can
handle
more.
So
this
itself
is
not
an
expansion
for
capacity.
K
C
Good
morning
again,
Anaheim
for
the
record
procurement,
as
previously
stated
prior
to
Hurricane
Ian,
due
to
retirements
of
existing
Personnel
staff,
requested
due
to
the
labor
shortages
and
an
increase
of
permit
requests
and
inspections.
At
that
time,
staff
requested
to
piggyback
the
services
of
cap
government,
which
includes
plans,
review
inspections
and
other
type
of
services
for
the
building
department.
C
Shortly
after
that,
the
community
experienced
hurricane
and-
and
there
was
a
need
for
critical
Services.
During
that
time,
staff
was
able
to
utilize
the
services
of
this
piggyback
contract
to
perform
the
inspections.
The
city
immediately
needed
after
the
hurricane.
The
inspections
were
completed
in
a
relatively
short
amount
of
time,
and
the
total
cost
was
22
220
dollars.
C
The
initial
approval
was
under
the
city
managers
Authority
at
that
time
for
Professional
Services,
with
a
maximum
of
50
000
for
that
fiscal
year,
particularly
those
Services.
The
critical
Services
needed
during
Hurricane
Ian
reduced
that
budget
balance
of
the
fifty
thousand.
So
we're
coming
to
city
council
to
request,
because
the
need
is
still
in
place
after
Hurricane
Ann
inspections
and
plans.
Reviews
have
increased
significantly
since
the
hurricane,
so
staff
is
requesting
the
approval
to
utilize
this
contract
on
an
as
needed
basis.
C
C
D
Yeah,
so
what
this
does
is
we
had
positioned
ourselves
even
prior
to
Hurricane
e
and
knowing
that,
if
we
had
a
spike
in
our
permit
requirements
that
we
can't
just
immediately
hire
employees,
nor
do
we
want
to
to
handle
that
Peak
and
permit
requirements
just
like
infrastructure.
We
don't
want
to
have
a
spike
in
our
budget
one
year
when
we
could
smooth
that
out.
So
we
have
consistent
costs
throughout
our
performance.
D
So
with
this,
we
positioned
ourselves
with
a
piggyback
on
another
municipality
in
the
State
of
Florida,
so
that
we
had
those
inspections
and
plan
review
services
to
handle
any
spike
in
permit
requirements.
Soon,
after
that
we
got
hurricane
Ian,
hence
the
spike,
and
that
is
for
a
company
to
provide
whatever
number
of
individuals
is
necessary
as
their
employees
to
handle
our
volume
load.
So
it's
not
per
project
or
per
any
one.
Specific
thing
is
to
handle
the
total
volume
that
we
have,
especially
in
plan
review,
not
any
commercial
but
rebuilding
roofs.
D
Everything
else
that
we
have
to
have,
and
then
subsequent
inspections
and
what
we've
seen
is.
Of
course,
we
had
an
initial
Spike
and
then,
of
course,
that
smoothed
out
somewhat
we've
seen
another
Spike,
because
now
people
were
getting
insurance,
payments
back
and
materials
are
starting
to
come
in.
So
we
see
another
spike
in
permit
requirements,
plan
review
inspection.
B
B
T
T
T
T
S
T
T
We
are
recommending
that
we
add
two
signs
for
westbound
traffic,
one
at
1434,
Kia,
start
drive
and
one
at
1940,
akiesta
Drive,
and
the
reasons
why
I
chose
those
were
the
distance
between
the
signs
and
where
we're
getting
the
general
complaints
from
the
citizens
and
the
area
where
they're
living.
Seeing
what
they're
observing.
T
T
Part
of
our
research,
we
were,
we
looked
into
the
National
Committee
on
uniform
traffic
control
device
study
and
some
of
the
considerations.
They
say
we
need
to
take
an
effect.
Rdx
speed
limit
decides
need
to
be
repeated
more
frequently
in
urban
settings
than
in
rule
and
repetition
of
speed.
Limit
signs
is
important
when
the
speed
limit
is
less
than
that
the
norm
of
for
the
class
of
the
road
that
is
being
signed.
T
So
if
a
road
is
designed
to
be
a
certain
speed
limit,
but
it
becomes
more
residential
and
the
speed
limits
lowered,
they
recommend
we
put
up,
we
repeat
more
signs
in
the
area.
They
recommend
that
spacing
a
speed
limit
signs
in
a
40
mile
per
hour
or
lower
Zone
should
have
a
maximum
spacing
of
approximately
a
quarter
mile.
T
By
adding
these
six
speed
limit
signs
at
the
locations
we
mentioned,
we
will
now
have
a
total
of
six
speed
limit
signs
for
westbound
traffic
and
five
speed
limit
signs
for
eastbound
traffic.
This
will
Encompass
aquiasta
drive
from
U.S
41
to
Coronado
Drive,
which
is
approximately
2.1
miles
in
length,
which
is
within
that
quarter
mile.
It's
a
little
more
generous
than
the
quarter
mile
that
they're
recommending
but
I
believe
that
would
solve
the
problem.
D
Q
D
Additional
information
excuse
me
again
when
speed
limit
signs
are
spaced
widely,
as
opposed
to
the
quarter
mile
recommendations,
and
you
do
have
a
road-
that's
very
straight
and
long
like
a
Kia
style
or
acquiesce,
as
some
say.
So,
regardless
of
how
you
say,
it's
speed,
limit's
the
same
for
whoever's
traveling,
but
when
you
have
that
people
tend
to
have
their
speed
creep
up,
which
is
where
people
say,
oh
I,
didn't
even
realize
you
know.
I
was
going
that
fast
on
this
stretch
of
road.
D
So
with
speed
limit
signs
that
are
spaced
more
frequently,
it
does
give
enforcement
an
opportunity
to
say
well,
you
just
passed
the
speed
limit
sign.
So
it's
not
like
you
passed
one
two
miles
ago
or
if
people
were
coming
out
of
residential
areas
that
now
cause
that
speed
limit
to
be
lower
and
they
don't
even
have
a
sign
that
they've
passed
until
they
pay
us
an
officer
that
wants
to
talk
to
them.
So
absolutely
you
know
with
this.
D
Q
Mark
so
yeah
I
mean
the
cost
of
these
signs
is
insignificant
and
we
have
the
funding
to
do
that.
But
my
couple
questions
or
comments
I
think
active
enforcement
is
the
most
effective
deterrent.
I
mean
you
put.
We
could
put
up
a
sign
every
50
feet,
you
know,
and
even
if
you
have
the
flashing
signs
and
you
have,
the
trailer
with
your
speed
is
I
mean
after
a
while
people
tend
to
just
not
see
them,
and
and
so
we
get
again
no
issue
putting
up
signs,
but
active
enforcement.
Q
You
know,
with
consequences,
you
know,
has
to
be
I
I.
Think
if
we're
really
going
to
do
something
here,
but
also
what
is
and
I'm
not
necessarily
suggesting
that
the
speed
limit
there
is
too
low,
but
isn't
there
a
situation
where,
if,
if
a
certain
percentage
of
people
in
a
after
we
study
it
are
exceeding
the
limit,
then
that
indicate
and
safely
we're
not
having
accidents.
Q
Does
that
indicate
that
the
speed
limit
on
a
given
road
is
too
low
and
and
then
so
before
you
answer
that
I'll
ask
the
next
next
comment:
are
we
opening
ourselves
up,
because
what
about
other
streets
I
mean
West
Marion
has
got
to
be
just
as
bad
I
hear.
Complaints
of
people
live
on
Colony
Point
people
racing
down
to
the
the
condos
at
the
or
the
whatever
at
the
end
there.
So
are
we
setting
in
motion
here
whatever
we
decide
to
do?
Are
we
sitting
in
motion
a
whole
series
of
cascade
of
actions?
T
Well,
I
have
received
over
the
last
six
years,
complaints
on
Marion
but
few
and
far
between
our
biggest
complaints.
Right
now,
as
far
as
speed
is
a
Kia
Side,
Drive
and
Burnt
Store
road.
We
have
been
doing
numerous
overtime
details
due
to
Staffing
for
Speed
enforcement.
Well,
we
did
one
in
earlier
this
year
on
Ikea
stock.
T
T
If
we
have
a
speed
limit,
that's
lower
than
what
that
85
percentile
is,
then
that's
that's
my
job
to
try
to
figure
out
how
to
resolve
it
and
there's
there's
two
ways
based
on
you
know,
25
years
of
experience,
it's
it's
education,
which
includes
information
and
enforcement
with
one
you
can't
solve
it.
You
need
both.
T
T
Unfortunately,
today
it's
not
what
you
know.
We
think
you
should
know
it's
what
we
can
prove
you
know
and,
and
that's
part
of
it,
and
that
the
major
reasons
as
to
people
speeding
other
than
oh
I
didn't
realize
I
was
going.
That
fast
is
I,
didn't
know
what
the
speed
limit
was
or
I
didn't
realize.
It
was
only
30.,
so
we're
just
trying
to
use
that
as
education.
E
Someone
in
my
group
had
asked
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
kind
of
weigh
in
on
the
signs,
for
me,
are
completely
fine.
Speed,
cushions
I
know
that
it
might
have
been
brought
up
in
the
past.
I
know
we
have
this
one
speed
cushions
there
on
on
Marion
going
towards
the
bridge,
but
is
that
something
that
you
find
might
be
a
necessity
down
the
road,
not
necessarily
a
Kia
style,
but
would
that
help,
along
with
enforcement
and
signs
and
everything
else.
T
Spirited
cushions
obviously
will
help
because
it's
going
to
force
people
to
slow
down
whether
it
cured
a
problem.
I
I,
don't
know
because
my
only
experience
it
with
speed
cushions
other
than
in
parking
lots
are,
is
Marion
Avenue,
and
you
know
it
does
slow
people
down
before
they
go
over
that
the
final
bridge
to
to
get
to
Ponds
park.
But
you
know
I.
Would
it
it's
probable
to
believe
that
it
would
help
slow
people
down
because
you're
not
going
to
take
one
of
those
speed
cushions?
You
know
at
a
high
rate
of.
D
Speed
and
there's
two
things
with
speed:
cushions
one
engineering
criteria
and
uniform
manual
traffic
control,
where
they
determine
their
most
appropriate
to
use
and
on
a
major
thoroughfare
such
as
that.
Just
like
stop
sign.
We
could
put
stop
signs
at
every
intersection
and
that
definitely
slows
people
down.
But
they're
not
recommended
to
do
recommended
is
education
and
enforcement,
even
the
ones
on
Marion.
D
They
had
a
specific
purpose
and
if
you
notice
they're
right
before
the
bridge,
the
Gary
wine
speed
homes-
oh
yeah,
they
when
they
were
doing
a
lot
of
construction
out
there
at
concrete
trucks
that
were
going
out
and
they
would
get
a
little
run
for
it
to
go
up
over
that
bridge
and
when
they
did
concrete,
would
slop
out
to
back.
So
with
the
speed
humps
they
had
speed
cushions.
It
says
they
had
to
slow
down.
D
So
they
could
hit
that
because
a
big
truck
like
that
can't
take
a
speed
up
at
a
higher
speed
and
that
prevented
concrete
from
swapping
out
so
they've
remained
ever
since.
But
you
notice
there's
only
that
one
location,
even
though
there's
multiple
Bridges,
but
we
have
speed
humps
there.
So
are
they
effective
and
do
they
work?
Yes,
and
when
you
look
at
it
from
an
engineering
perspective,
Are
there
specific
locations
where
they're
recommended,
as
opposed
to
the
issues
they
may
cause
and
others
that's
also
a
yes.
So.
B
I
think
there's
also
a
huge
concern
about
emergency
vehicles
having
to
get
access
when
you
put
speed
humps
on
a
major
road
like
that,
it's
going
to
be
a
major
problem
for
the
fire
truck
the
fire
trucks,
plural
and
the
ambulances
that
have
to
Traverse
that
road
every
single
day,
numerous
times
and
I'd,
be
concerned
about
doing
that.
If
you,
if
I,
were
a
patient
in
an
ambulance,
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
be
on
the
receiving
end
of
that
speed
bump.
H
T
T
G
Chief
Pam
Davis
want
to
go
to
police
department
and
yes
that
for
I
was
thinking
for
the
birthstone
Road
issue.
Speed
cameras
would
be
the
best
solution,
but
we've
reached
out
to
all
the
Departments
that
had
the
cameras
in
their
cities
and
for
whatever
reason
they
said,
they've
been,
they
pulled
the
cameras
and
they
really
couldn't
give
us
a
reason
why?
G
D
Allowed
them
in
school
zones
specifically
to
start-
and
you
know
it
was
generally
subcontracted
out,
especially
in
smaller
municipalities,
to
third
parties
that
would
provide
the
cameras.
Maintain
the
cameras,
maintain
the
certification
of
the
cameras.
There's
a
lot
of
work
for
each
one
of
those
to
make
a
new
ticket
valid.
S
G
K
D
Third-Party
company,
you
get
to
go
to
the
proceeds,
but
it's
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
installing,
maintaining
and
certifying
these
cameras
and
then
certifying
the
tickets
subsequently,
and
in
many
cases
people
put
them
in.
It
was
a
revenue
generator
I
mean
call
it
what
it
is,
because
you
know
schools
weren't
in
session
and
there
was
nothing
going
on,
but
these
cameras
were
still
working
so.
B
Well,
I
had
quite
an
animated
disc
question
with
my
group
yesterday
about
this
subject.
In
fact,
a
lot
more
conversation
than
I
expected.
It
ranged
from
anywhere
from
speed,
cushions
to
stop
signs
to
cameras
to
Too
Much
signage
I.
Think
there
was
a
there
was
there
were
a
lot
of
people
that
said
that
the
signed
blight
was
is
going
to
be
an
issue
because
years
ago,
all
the
stops.
B
So
we
had
those
added
in
a
moderate
level
and
I'm
just
now
concerned.
If
we're
going
to
put
six
more
signs
on
a
Kia
style,
I
think
people
are
going
to
go
crazy.
That's
that's
a
big
concern
to
me.
I,
don't
disagree
that
we
need
some
I'm.
Not
sure
six
more
is!
Is
the
answer
and
I
I'm
just
really
concerned
that
people
are
going
to
complain
about
sign
blight.
So
I,
don't
know
what
the
happy
medium
is
other
than
permanently
putting
an
officer
out
there
for
enforcement.
That's
you
know
that's.
B
Unfortunately,
enforcement
is
going
to
be
the
natural
fix
for
it,
because
people
do
slow
down
when
they
see
a
police
car.
It's
a
fact.
Even
if
it's
a
volunteer
car,
they
see
a
car
park
there
they're
going
to
slow
down
and
that's
really
the
only
thing
other
than
a
camera
that
that
might
work
in
enforcing
slower
speed
limits.
So
I,
don't
know
you.
D
Know
it's
interesting
when
you
talk
about
that
last
night,
on
Piper
Road
towards
the
airport,
there
was
a
one
of
the
trailers
that
has
your
speed
is
and
right
beside
it
on
that
trailer,
had
a
speed,
limit,
sign
and
right
down
the
road
within
view
of
it
was
a
sheriff's
deputy
said
so
you
went
by
it
and
it
said
your
speed
is
52
and
it
says
45
and
he
was
right
there
to
make
sure
he
talked
to
them
about
that.
But
again.
G
Unfortunately,
we're
trying
everything
we
can
in
between
calls
for
service
to
get
our
officers
out
there
and
do
that,
like
the
captain
alluded
to.
We
have
actually
had
to
pay
overtime
to
have
people,
so
they
can
just
sit
there
because
it's
too
hard
to
run
and
you'd
get.
You
can
do
it
for
10
minutes
and
then
you
have
to
leave
and
then
it
just
doesn't
provide
a
consistent
enforcement
effort.
It
would
be
one
one
wonderful
one
day
to
have
a
permanent
traffic
car
that
we
could
just
do,
but
you.
P
D
Just
to
facilitate
the
discussion,
we're
at
a
point
where
we
need
to
get
our
environmental
people
into
the
Bayfront
Center,
so
they
can
study
and
ensure
there's
no
friable
asbestos
or
asbestos
at
all.
Actually,
that
needs
to
be
removed
prior
to
demolition
of
the
building.
So,
of
course,
once
we
get
those
reports
back
and
we
can
get
that
out
to
forbid
the
building
will
be
demolished
either
completely
or
at
least
down
to
the
slab,
and
at
that
point
we'll
need
to
know
where
we're
going
with
that.
D
What
are
we
going
to
do
for
replacement
of
the
space
in
a
location?
And
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
that
space
that
the
building
currently
sets
it
on?
So
with
that
Council
had
suggested,
the
committee
be
formed
of
stakeholders
to
identify
options
and
present
back
to
council
what
the
best
option
may
be,
according
to
committee
evaluation,
and
this
discussion
would
basically
formalize
that
committee,
the
members
of
that
committee
and
we
could
have
staff
then
set
up
first
meetings.
D
The
committee
could
determine
what
the
procedures
and
processes
that
they
want
to
use
are
and
subsequently,
in
a
fairly
short
time
frame,
to
come
back
to
council
with
some
recommendations
say
that
we
can
continue
to
move.
That
forward
might
be
a
moot
point,
we're
getting
into
hurricane
season
that
might
demolish
it
for
us,
but
at
the
same
time
we
still
need
to
know
what
to
put
back.
So
this
discussion
would
certainly
formalize
all
that
and
allow
us
to
move
forward
expeditiously.
P
Okay,
okay,
since
I'm
the
one
that
suggested
this
be
on
the
agenda.
Obviously
my
point
of
view
just
to
reiterate
what
I
said
at
our
last
meeting
is
that
I
do
believe
that
the
YMCA
should
be
represented
in
the
group.
Learn
to
sail
should
be
represented
in
the
group
because
they
are
currently
on
the
lease
of
that
building
and
also
I
believe
the
historic
Punta
Gorda
civic
association
representing
the
neighborhood
should
be
part
of
that
group.
I.
Would
you
know
I?
Don't
have
I
feel
strongly
about
the
first
three.
P
As
far
as
the
other
participants
I
mean
voters,
Alliance
would
be
you
know
a
reasonable
Choice,
especially
because
they
have
submitted
proposals
in
the
past
we
have
the
Dover
coal
material.
We
have
Team
Punta
gorda's
work,
but
then
I
think
the
other
two
members
I
mean
whomever,
but
again
the
first
three
I
feel
strongly
about.
F
Q
As
far
as
the
committee
is
concerned,
you
know
in
my
experience,
you
know
if
you
have
a
committee
of
any
more
than
six
people,
it
becomes
ineffective.
So
I
think
the
maximum
number
that
we
should
have
on
the
committee
is
six.
My
committee
also
suggested
we
absolutely
had
to
have
somebody
Joan
from
Urban,
Design
and
so
I
would
agree
with
that
as
well,
and
then
I
don't
have
any
objection
to
any
of
the
other
names
that
you
or
organizations
that
you
had
mentioned.
As
long
as
we
keep
the
maximum
to
six.
B
B
We
need
to
have
people
involved
who
have
used
that
building
on
a
regular
basis,
I'm
trying
to
get
a
copy
of
a
list
of
all
of
the
organizations
that
use
the
bay
front
center
and
at
what
level
they
use
them
when,
where,
however
many
hours
per
week
so
that
we
have
something
to
go
on
in
order
to
plan
forward,
because
I
think
that's
going
to
be
also
important
there.
You
know
we
don't
really.
B
S
K
Q
Q
On
whatever
the
committee
recommends,
the
committee
they're
feeling
their
feeling
was
that
nobody
from
city
council
should
sit
on
the
committee.
The
committee
should
bring
the
recommendation
to
council,
then
Council
can
discuss
it
in
a
meeting
and
then
vote
on
it.
They
were
pretty
adamant
right
out
of
the
gate
that
nobody
on
Council
should
be
on
it.
P
S
I
D
K
P
Is
it
existing
to
make
recommendations
on
the
future
use
of
the
property,
including
if
we
were
to
build
a
building
I
mean?
Is
it
possible
given
where
it's
located
high
velocity
surge?
You
know
stuff,
you
know
the
actual
construction
costs
and
then
what
would
its
use
be
and
what
would
the
budget
be?
I
mean
I
thinking,
it's
not
inexpensive.
Q
Because
we
saw
three
Renditions
I
mean
basically
a
double
wide,
the
Taj
Mahal
with
turrets
and
flags,
and
then
something
in
between
I
mean
we've
already
that
that's
already
and
I
don't
know
if
that
came
from
Dover,
coal
or
somewhere
else.
But
you
know
that
that
at
least
much
work
has
been
done
already.
It.
P
Q
I
would
suggest
that
we
approach
each
of
those
organizations
that
you
had
mentioned
and
ask
them
to
nominate
someone,
and
then
we
can
basically
approve
the
committee
at
the
next
meeting
and
even
even
if
we
had
more
than
six
nominations,
understanding
that
we're
only
going
to
limit
it
to
six
people.
I
think
that
would
be
the
The
Best
Next
Step
and
progress
today.
B
D
P
E
Yes,
so
I'm
not
I,
don't
know
five's
enough
I
think
we
might
need
to
open
it
to
seven
I
think
we
allow.
Maybe
some
suggestions
via
email
come
in
and
I
don't
want
to
dis.
I,
don't
want
to
exclude
a
group
that
maybe
we're
just
not
spitballing
here,
because
we're
just
kind
of
in
the
moment.
The
other
thing
is
I
would
really
want
to
make
sure
that
whatever
group
is
formed,
that
there
is
a
point
person
I
find
that
any
group
you're
involved.
E
If
there's
not
somebody,
that's
heading
it
and
that
might
be
Joan
the
bow
or
you
know,
whoever
the
city
rep
is
just
to
make
sure
that
obviously
they're
they're
organized
they're
meeting
Mr
Levin.
My
question
to
you
would
be
if
it's
going
to
be
with
the
sunshine
laws,
it's
something
where
we
need
meeting
space
that
the
public
has
to
come.
How
would
that
work
and
how
would
that
look.
S
That
is
correct,
and
the
problem
is
that
the
government
and
Sunshine
Law
is
pretty
liberal
in
and
of
itself,
and
the
attorney
general,
who
has
been
pretty
much
given
the
responsibility
for
interpreting
it
for,
for
those
that
are
affected
by
it
is,
is
very
liberal
and
the
courts
rely
fairly
heavily
on
the
Attorney
General's
opinions.
So
the
the
biggest
trap
that
a
local
government
finds
is
try
to
do
things
efficiently,
which
then
runs
a
foul
of
some
of
these
very
demanding
requirements
of
the
sun.
Q
Q
Right
but
the
reason
I'm
asking
that
is
because
I'm
hard
over
on
five
people,
but
in
respect
for
we
don't
want
to
exclude
anybody,
anybody
would
have
an
opportunity
to
come
and
speak,
but
there's
only
five
people
making
a
decision.
I
think
that's
that's
an
important
factor
and
people
can
can
anybody
can
come
and
and
speak
and
have
their
opinions
and
their
voices
heard
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
to
look
at
that
heart.
Q
H
Q
I
could
I
could
agree
to
that.
That
would
allow
one
more
remember
as
long
as
staff
has
a
role
and
staff
wouldn't
have
a
voting
role,
but
and
I
don't
remember,
but
but
my
committee
Joan
was
involved
in
something
recently
and
and
they
were
gushing
about
the
quality
of
her
contribution
to
whatever
it
was
I.
Just
don't
recall
what
it
was
offhandson.
They
were
very
that
they
need
to
be
represented.
Q
D
Just
to
clarify
our
intent
is
that
we
have
someone
from
Urban
Design
and
probably
not
and
James,
not
around
that
long,
which
we'll
say
lovingly,
but
we
have
someone
from
Urban
Design
that
will
facilitate
the
meeting.
They
would
be
the
point
person,
they
would
coordinate
the
information
from
the
committee
and
our
intent
was
that,
once
the
committee
is
formed
at
the
first
meeting,
they
determine
what
their
timeline
would
be,
how
long
they
think
they
would
need
to
need
to
evaluate
the
information
they're
given
and
reply
back.
D
P
P
B
I
think
it's
important
that
we
get
this
done
soon
and
we
and
we
get
this
on
the
on
the
calendar
so
that
we
can
move
this
along
and
be
ready
for
whatever
has
to
be
voted
on
and
I
think
it
probably
needs
to
be
done
along
with
all
of
the
rest
of
the
master
plan,
stuff,
that's
in
the
works
and
when
we
adopt
new
codes
and
everything,
because
this
can
be
folded
into
that
as
well.
So
I
think
it's
timing
is
of
the
essence
to
get
this
thing.
Moving.
D
And
that
person
certainly
can
facilitate
it
in
ways
such
as
we're
going
to
have
Kristen
here
today,
because
she
can
tell
you
the
financial
implications,
what
we
have,
what
it
takes,
Etc
we're
going
to
have
Brian
here
or
procurement,
to
tell
you
the
timeline
that
it's
going
to
take
to
do.
What
you're
talking
about
I
mean
there's
all
those
resources
that
can
be
coordinated
through
the
point.
B
F
B
P
B
E
H
B
Q
As
long
as
we
have
limited
to
five
I
mean
we
could
get
I
think
what
we
we
can
get
a
dozen
different
recommendations
and
then
at
the
next
meeting
we
need
to
determine
the
five
and
there's
gonna
have
to
be
opportunity.
Costs
I
mean
not
everybody's
going
to
have
a
seated
table,
but
they
can
all
have
a
voice.
So
I
I
don't
know
that
we
need
to
determine
the
number
I'd
get
more
than
five
nominations,
and
then
we
can
decide
at
the
next
meeting.
Q
B
D
And
just
to
again
start
this
discussion.
This
was
requested
as
an
agenda
item
based
on
the
April
19th
issue,
where
we
did
not
meet
at
the
military,
Heritage,
Museum
and
subsequently
canceled
our
board
meetings
for
the
following
week,
based
on
the
lease
issue
that
was
brought
up
by
the
owner
and
then
our
relocation
to
the
convention
center
for
the
one
city
council
meeting.
E
So
I
had
asked
for
this
to
be
on
the
agenda,
and
so,
as
everybody
knows
in
the
morning
of
the
19th,
there
was
an
issue
it
did
not
affect
the
city.
The
city
has
a
valid
lease
with
military
Heritage
Museum,
but
there
was
another
issue
that
I
won't
go
into
detail
with,
but
because
of
that
issue
it
forced
us
to
have
to
cancel
our
meeting
and
our
meetings
are
for
date,
time
place
certain
which
was
9
A.M,
so
because
advertisement,
requirements
and
other
requirements.
E
We
were
forced
to
cancel
that
meeting,
because
this
other
issue
wasn't
able
to
be
worked
out
within
a
reasonable
time
and
it's
not
as
if
we
could
have
just
said
well,
we'll
come
back
at
one
o'clock
and
we'll
we'll
meet
from
there,
then
from
April
19th
to
April
24th.
The
city
actually
waited
to
hear
if
that
issue
was
worked
out
and
because
of
that,
the
city
actually
had
to
cancel
six
meetings
within
that
time.
E
And
if
you
look
at
the
lease
and
you
do
the
math,
basically,
you
can
boil
it
down
to.
Let's
call
it
about
380
per
meeting
that
had
to
be
canceled
again,
because
we
had
City
business
to
finish,
that
was
very
important.
We
had
to
scramble
to
find
another
meeting
location
which
was
the
event
center,
which
cost
the
city
thirty
seven
hundred
dollars
just
for
one
meeting,
and
it's
not
that
we
could
just
meet
anywhere.
We
have
AV
requirements,
we
have
different
requirements
so
in
such
a
limited,
short
time
frame.
E
That
was
our
option
and
we
met
there
to
try
to
conduct
our
city
council
business,
but
the
other,
the
other
meetings
were
canceled.
So,
finally,
we
heard
back
from
April
25th
that
the
issue
had
been
worked
out
and
that
we
were
going
to
be
able
to
come
back
to
the
military
Heritage
Museum
to
meet
I
want
to
be
very
clear
that
it
doesn't
matter
where
we're
meeting
it
could
be
Costco.
This
to
me
is
a
business
decision.
It
is
not
where
we're
meeting
or
anything
of
that
nature.
It's
nothing
personal.
E
This
is
business
and
the
city.
Really,
if
you,
if
you
calculate
all
the
meetings
that
were
canceled
and
what
we
had
to
spend,
you
know
you're,
basically
looking
at
almost
5
900
that
the
city
lost
out
within
a
week
now
these
are
meetings
that
didn't
actually
have
the
only
one
that
actually
showed
up
to
me
were
was
city
council.
So
what
I'm
going
to
ask?
Obviously
after
discussion,
is
going
to
be
that
I'm
going
to
ask
for
that.
E
K
Q
So
yeah
I
did
the
math
too,
and
I
came
up
with
pretty
much
the
same
numbers
but
and
I
have
no
problem
asking
them
to
do
that.
I
have
a
feeling
that
they're
going
to
say
it
wasn't
our
fault
we
you
could
have
met
here.
It
was
the
city's
choice
not
to
to
hold
the
meeting
so
I.
Don't
think
that
they're
gonna
just
stroke
a
check,
you
could
go
back
to
the
ultimate
landlord
and
and
try
there
but
I
think
you'll.
We
will
receive
the
same.
Q
The
same
response
so
I
have
no
problem
asking,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
really
it's
his
business
decision
and
it
comes
down
to
what
the
City
attorney
would
think,
because
you're
going
to
wind
up
having
a
sue
to
get
the
money.
That's
my
point:
they're
not
going
to
write
a
check
if
we
want
to
get
the
59.
Actually,
it's
59.91
that
I
came
up
with
you're
going
to
have
to
Sue,
and
so
the
city's
attorney's
opinion.
Q
How
much
is
it
going
to
cost
us
to
Sue
and
the
fact
that
we
are
a
public
entity
and
we
can't
recover
the
legal
fees?
My
guess
is
it's
going
to
cost
us
quite
a
bit
more
than
the
six
thousand
dollars,
so
we
could
ask,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
demand
and
I.
Don't
think
we're
gonna
be
down
the
road
of
actually
suing.
E
Mr
Carson
I
think
you're,
assuming
a
lot
I
think
you're
you're
setting
up
a
presumption
at
the
end
of
the
day.
We
have
a
good
working
relationship
and
it
wasn't
we
couldn't
just
meet.
We
had
advertising
expenses
a
date
certain.
This
was
not
something
where
we
literally
could
not
meet,
and
it
would
be
one
thing
if
we
had
one
meeting
that
was
canceled
and
everything
got
resolved.
E
It
almost
took
a
week
to
have
this
resolved,
so
I
do
think
that
you're
per
person
you
know
assuming
and
yes,
we
would
have
to
look
at
the
legalities
of
it.
But
I
would
hope
from
this
meeting
that
with
the
good
relationship
that
we
have,
that,
maybe
whomever
would
be
in
charge
on
that
end
would
come
and
say
you
know
what
you're
right
and
as
a
good
faith,
we
were
going
to
give
you
that
credit
back.
They
can
go
to
the
ultimate
person.
That
was
the
one
that
created
this
mess.
E
Q
Q
We
as
a
city
decided
not
to
hold
that
meeting
here
that
day
and
then
the
subsequent
meetings
was
just
the
Cascade
of
that,
but
that
meeting
today
was
the
fact
that
we
chose
not
to
meet
and
I
I
wouldn't
give
over
the
money,
no
matter
how
good
a
relationship
I
had
because
I
don't
think
that
that
would
be
a
good
business
decision.
I.
B
I
have
some
comments
I
need
to
make
at
this
point.
First
of
all,
you
are
absolutely
correct.
The
city
canceled,
the
meeting
the
museum
did
not
cancel
the
meeting.
Second
of
all,
what
you
all
don't
know
is
that
the
initial
agreement
I
was
not
involved
in
the
lease
signing
for
this
agreement.
For
us
to
be
here,
but
I
I
was
kept
abreast
of
what
the
conversation
was
with
the
city.
The
city
is
comped
for
all
the
City
Council
meetings.
B
It's
not
written
into
the
the
lease
agreement,
because
the
the
bid
specs
that
were
sent
out
for
people
who
wanted
to
bid
on
the
contract
did
not
have
an
option
for
you
to
add
that
information
into
the
bid.
However,
the
agreement
was
that
the
City
Council
meetings
were
comp
to
the
city.
The
city
only
pays
for
the
board
and
committee
meetings
that
meet
here.
So
that's
a
really
critically
important
part
of
the
contract
that
isn't
on
paper,
but
it
is
a
verbal
agreement
with
the
city.
B
So
to
that
end,
this
the
museum
does
not
owe
us
any
money.
Also,
you
know
it
was
the
city's
decision
to
cancel
the
meeting.
That
day,
more
than
just
the
fact
that
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
in
this
room
that
was
going
to
be
disruptive,
it
was
a
Safety
and
Security
concern
at
that
time
it
was
the
city's
decision
again
and
if
anybody
should
be
giving
us
considerations,
it's
the
county.
B
Shame
on
them
for
not
only
charging
us
an
outrageous
amount
of
money
to
begin
with,
but
then
two
days
before
the
meeting
coming
back
and
adding
almost
another
50
percent
onto
the
cost
of
the
room
for
four
hours,
we
charged
us
thirty
seven
hundred
dollars,
if
we're
only
paying
4
200
for
a
month
for
all
of
our
board
and
committee
meetings.
Here,
that's
ludicrous
and-
and
they
gave
us
a
room
that
was
way
larger
than
we
really
needed.
Could
we
have
used
a
smaller
room?
B
Probably
I'm
really
concerned
that
that
it
makes
us
look
Petty
if
we're
going
to
go
after
the
museum
for
this
money,
it
was
not
the
Museum's
fault
and
I'm,
not
speaking
as
a
board
member
of
the
museum
I'm
speaking
as
a
council
person
I
just
think
it
makes
us
look,
Petty
and
and
I
think
we're
barking
at
the
wrong
people.
I
think
we
should
be
talking
to
the
county
and
maybe
maybe,
as
a
United
body,
we
send
a
letter
to
the
county
and
ask
them
for
some
compensation,
reimbursement,
I
just
think
it
was.
B
It
was
all
handled
the
wrong
way
and
I.
You
know,
I
I
feel
bad
for
the
museum
that
we
weren't
able
to
have
our
meetings
here.
It
disrupted
their
service
too
I.
Just
you
know,
there's
there's
been
other
reasons
why
we've
had
to
postpone
meetings
or
we
had
to
change
the
timing
of
meetings
and
everything
else.
All
of
those
are
just
City
decisions.
They
were
not
the
Museum's
decisions,
so
I
I
think
we
need
to
step
back
on
this
and
and
try
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
room
that
we
are
renting
from
them.
I.
Q
B
Q
E
H
I
I
think
you're
right,
I,
think
Rhonda,
something
here.
I
think
we
ought
to
get
with
the
county.
I
think
the
OS
big
time
I
mean
when
their
system
went
down
during
the
hurricane
and
we
took
over
all
the
calls
we
didn't
build
them.
We
did
it
because
we
worked
together
as
a
team.
This
should
be
a
team
effort
not
with
accounting.
They
should
have
been
doing
this,
but
now
that
we've
gotten
this
down
this
slippery
slope
here,
I
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
on
that
to
the
money
from
the
museum
at
all.
H
H
B
That's
why
you
got
the
email
from
Terry
Ashley
this
morning
that
she
she
called
me
last
night,
and
she
said
if
there
ever
is
another
situation.
The
pgica
stands
ready
to
be
able
to
accommodate
your
meetings.
I
guess
one
other
comment
that
I'll
make
before
we
go
on
is.
Is
you
know
if
it
was
anybody
else
in
the
city
that
disrupted
one
of
our
meetings
enough
for
it
to
be
canceled?
Would
we
hold
them
responsible,
I.
K
E
That
I
am
a
couple
other
points,
I
mean.
Obviously
we
know
where
I
stand
on
this
you
would
mentioned.
It
was
a
security
issue.
It
was
a
security
issue,
we're
here
to
meet
and
the
landlord
or
the
person
that
we
have
a
lease
with
did
not
was
not
able
to
secure
us
to
meet,
which
then
forced
us
to
cancel
the
meeting.
E
If
we
didn't
feel
safe
because
whatever
issue
is
going
on
inside
here,
then
they
did
not
provide
a
safe
environment
in
an
environment
in
which
we
could
meet
in
so
I
disagree
entirely
that
we
just
decided
to
cancel
this
meeting.
As
far
as
this
verbal
I
know,
I've
not
been
on
Council
very
long,
but
I
have
a
problem
with
verbal
agreements.
If
it's
not
the
lease,
it
doesn't
exist
and
yes,
I
would
definitely
hold
anybody
responsible.
E
When
it
comes
to
hey,
the
county
did
what
the
county
did
and
that
that
could
be
a
discussion
for
down
the
road,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
they're
a
business
too.
They
saw
a
need
and
they
charged
what
they
charged
I'm
in
business.
It
is
what
it
is,
and
so
I
I
don't
think
that
we
should
go
back
and
look
at
the
Event
Center.
Yes,
I
think
it
was
overpriced,
but
it
is.
What
is
the
problem
is
the
only
reason
why
we're
at
the
Event
Center
is
because
we
could
not
meet
here.
D
If
I
could
just
mention
about
the
convention
center,
the
county
I
believe
will
say
that
their
fee
for
the
convention
center
is
900
some
dollars
and
the
contract
operator
of
the
convention
center.
That
provides
all
the
facilities
managers
that
provide
to
the
AV
Equipment
Etc
was
the
remainder
of
the
cost
so
that
it
was
not
the
county.
It
was
their
contract
operator
I,
believe
that
would
be
their
position.
B
E
The
responsibility
there
was
a
decision
because
the
the
problem
was
that
we
felt
that
if
we
met
because
this
other
issue
wasn't
resolved,
our
meeting
could
have
been
disrupted
and
we
could
have
been
asked
to
leave
the
building.
So
how
can
you
conduct
a
meeting
if,
if
that
was
on
the
table-
and
that
was
on
the
table.
B
The
owner
of
the
property
was
angry
at
the
city
that
morning.
That
was
what
what
precipitated
the
whole
thing.
He
knows
bloody
well,
that
the
city
has
a
valid
contract.
He
knows
the
military
Heritage
Museum
has
a
valid
lease.
That
was
never
really
an
issue.
However,
he
made
it
an
issue
while
they
were
having
discussions,
and
it
just
goes
back
to
the
same
thing.
I've
been
saying:
it's
not
the
Museum's
fault
and
I
can't
in
good
conscience,
go
to
the
museum.
First
of
all,
it's
going
to
have
to
be
a
board
of
directors.
B
Decision
at
the
Museum
level
and
I
will
not
vote
by
the
way.
If
that
comes
up,
I
will
not
vote
at
that
meeting
and
I
am
the
chair.
The
president
on
the
board
of
directors,
I
I'm,
an
unpaid
volunteer
I,
will
not
vote
on
that
if
it
comes
before
the
board
of
directors,
but
I
I
cannot
in
good
conscience,
recommend
that
we
move
it
forward.
Yeah.
Q
I
I
agree:
I
agree
with
councilman
dryburg
I
think
this
whole
thing
makes
us
look
Petty
yeah.
It
was
unfortunate
and
it
wasn't
convenient
and
it
put
a
lot
of
us
out,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
fifty
nine
hundred
dollars
and
it's
not
even
really
fifty
nine
hundred
dollars,
because
some
of
those
meetings
just
didn't
happen.
It
wouldn't
have
happened
anyway,
so
I
I
just
say
we
drop
it.
P
As
the
first
person
here
that
day
I
mean
it
was
a
very
upsetting
situation,
I
don't
see
how
we
could
have
possibly
gone
on
with
our
meeting,
given
the
level
of
emotion
that
it
was
going
on
that
morning,
I,
don't
believe
it's
the
Museum's
fault
and
I
think
it's
just.
It
was
an
unfortunate
situation.
I
I,
viewed
it
as
a
mental
health
crisis.
Frankly
that
was
occurring
and
I
just
I,
don't
think
it's
worth
going
after
the
museum.
I
really
don't.
B
I'm
also
concerned
that
it
will
strain
relationships
with
the
museum
and
I
don't
want
to
see
that
happen
as
a
kind
of
a
critical
important
part
of
our
city.
At
this
point,
and
certainly
we
need
to
be
here
for
a
long
time
for
the
rest
of
our
meetings
until
the
city
hall
is,
is
redone,
so
I
I
would
just
not
I
I,
don't
in
good
conscience.
E
I
can't
say
I
obviously
won't
make
a
motion,
because
we
obviously
know
where
this
is
going
to
go,
but
again,
I
just
want
to
go
on
record
that
I
don't
care
who
it
was.
It
could
have
been
anywhere
as
a
business
person.
We
were
not
offered
the
meeting
space
that
we
had
an
agreement
with.
They
did
not
provide
the
meeting
space
and
we
have
a
fiduciary
obligation
to
account
for
every
penny
that
the
that
the
City
spends,
whether
it
be
and
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
relationship.
E
P
B
U
U
The
nominations
for
code
enforcement
board
for
the
two
regular
seats
will
be
brought
back
at
the
next
meeting,
so
those
folks
have
an
opportunity
to
introduce
themselves
historic
preservation.
Advisory
Board
to
alternates
I
said
at
the
last
meeting
that
I
thought
we
had
an
applicant
for
one
of
those
seats.
However,
she
did
submit
an
application,
but
not
for
that
particular
board.
So
we
have
no
one
for
those
alternates
right
now
and
Planning
Commission.
We
have
two
regular
seats
and
utility
Advisory
Board.
D
Again,
thank
you
for
your
tolerance
and
waiting
for
everything
to
get
completed
that
has
been
a
result
of
Hurricane.
Ian
I
know
we're.
You
know,
seven
months
into
it,
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
things
going
on.
We
still
again
has
insurance
money
and
material
becomes
available.
Contractors
become
less
available
because
the
more
people
that
have
all
this
work
to
do,
the
less
we
can
get
for
especially
low
bid
government
projects
that
we're
waiting
to
complete
so
we're
still
working
on
things.
D
Staff
has
been
working
diligently
over
time
and
providing
all
the
resources
we
can
to
get
things
completed.
So
it's
just
it
takes
time.
There
was
a
wide
scope
of
Ian.
Obviously
Hurricane
Charlie
was
more
defined
in
duration
and
size
than
Ian
was
so
everyone's
working
everywhere
right
now
and
little
Punta
gorda's
of
not
always
at
the
top
of
everyone's
list,
but
we're
certainly
moving
forward
with
a
lot
of
things.
Our
Canal
debris
removal
was
nearing
a
close.
Our
debris,
removal
on
the
streets
of
course,
has
been
completed.
D
We're
working
on
our
facilities
now
once
we're
trying
to
help
everyone
else
with
the
facilities
they've
needed
to
to
mitigate
we're,
trying
to
get
Scopes
out
for
things
we're
still
working
on
additional
things
that
the
not
only
Bayfront
Center
but
Harold,
Court,
Center
or
the
third
floor.
All
of
the
different
things
that
we
need
to
have
scoped
bid
contractors
back
in
constructed.
All
of
that
is
in
progress.
D
But
we
did
get
another
million
one
there,
we're
still
I
guess
in
the
running
for
five
and
a
half
million
for
septic
to
sewer
project,
which
is
certainly,
you
know
the
beginning
of
a
project
that
helps
water
quality
in
Charlotte
Harbor,
so
to
still
be
in
the
running
for
that.
I
hope
that
that
comes
through.
Of
course,
you've
seen
the
grants.
D
We've
gotten
from
our
Florida
Department
of
Law
Enforcement
from
a
marine
advisory
committee
and
the
other
grants
that
we're
currently
working
on
that
we've
already
been
awarded
say
we
have
a
lot
going
on
we're
still
accomplishing
a
lot,
there's
just
a
tremendous
amount
to
do
so.
We
appreciate
your
tolerance
while
we
get
it
completed
and
appreciate
all
the
work
that
staff's
putting
into
getting
that
done,
and
on
top
of
it,
we
have
a
budget
coming.
S
P
K
S
So
you
know
they
they
were
fact-finding
and
and
were
not
asked
to
make
a
recommendation,
and
there
is
an
exception
recognized
in
the
sunshine
law
for
committees
that
merely
present
facts.
Whereas,
as
the
discussion
developed
regarding
the
bay
front
center,
I
think
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
request
for
a
recommendation
and
that
would
then
take
it
out
of
the
fact-finding
exception.
U
And
then
the
other
comments
that
I
had
about
that
committee
is
that
I
would
ask
that
they
have
their
meetings
here,
where
they
can
be
recorded.
Just
like
all
of
our
other.
Our
boarding
committee
meetings
and
I
will
once
a
decision
has
been
made
about
the
number
and
they
can
have
their
first
meeting
and
then
they
can
decide
how
often
they're
going
to
meet.
And
then
we
can
talk
about
that
with
the
museum
and
the
availability
of
the
theater.
U
B
Okay,
I
have
a
few
comments.
First
of
all
for
anyone
who
went
to
the
Honor
Flight
reception
last
night-
oh
my
gosh,
oh
my
gosh,
it
was
tearjerker
Central,
I,
I've,
never
seen
so
many
people
crying
in
my
whole
life.
It
was
magnificent
to
see
I
just
want
to
say
publicly.
Thank
you
to
the
southwest
Florida
Honor
Flight
organization,
the
Punta
Gorda
Airport.
Oh
my
gosh
rock
stars.
Yesterday
they
comped
all
the
parking
for
anybody
who
was
there
for
the
for
the
welcome
home
ceremony.
They
made
everybody
feel
so
welcome
there.
B
There
was
just
people
everywhere,
handing
out
flags
and
all
kinds
of
free
things,
and
it
was
just
really
fun
and
also
to
Allegiant
Airlines,
my
gosh.
They
did
a
phenomenal
job,
getting
our
veterans
up
there
and
back,
and
it
was
just
quite
a
spectacle
to
see
and
there
were
barely
any
dry
eyes.
So
I
just
wanted
to
call
that
out,
because
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
acknowledge
that
so
again,
upcoming
events
that
you
can
I'll
put
on
your
calendars.
B
If
you,
if
you
can
be
at
these
things
tomorrow
at
noon
outside
the
city
hall,
Annex,
is
the
National
Day
of
Prayer
ceremony
Saturday
at
9
00
a.m,
is
the
Hibiscus
Festival
I'll
be
doing
a
proclamation
at
that
event
as
well,
conquistadors
Landing
is
next
Saturday
the
13th
at
1
pm
at
the
Sheraton
Four
Points
and
Memorial
Day.
There
will
be
a
ceremony
at
10
A.M
in
front
of
the
Vietnam
Wall,
and
my
understanding
is
we're
going
to
do
a
one-time
exception
to
our
city
ordinance
to
allow
that
ceremony
to
take
place.
B
It
is
being
organized
by
the
Charlotte
County
veterans.
Council
I've
been
in
touch
with
commissioner
Deutsche
about
this,
and
and
also
with
the
city
manager
about
it.
It'll
come
on
next,
maybe
next
council
meeting
agenda
just
to
give
the
nod
of
approval
on
the
part
of
the
city,
to
give
a
one-time
exception
for
this
special
event,
but
that'll
be
10
o'clock
at
the
wall
and
then
at
11
30.
B
There
will
be
a
Memorial
Day
ceremony
here
in
this
room
and
all
are
welcome
and
I
would
hope
that
council
members
can
be
here
if
your
schedule
permits
and
Mr
Murray
has
already
mentioned
the
the
state
budget
funds
that
are
possibly
coming
to
us.
We
have
made
it
to
the
governor's
desk
list
of
budget
items
for
the
subject
to
sewer
it's
quite
a
Quite,
a
feat,
because
we
asked
for
five
and
a
half
million
dollars.
B
So
if
we
make
it
through
the
governor's
budget,
it'll
be
a
great
thing
to
get
us
started
on
that
project.
It's
going
to
be
probably
five
times
that
to
get
it
actually
done,
but
it's
it's
at
least
money
to
get
started
on
engineering
and
design.
At
this
point,
and
that's
all
I
have
council
member
Cummings
Mrs
Peterman,
nothing,
Miss,
Locker,
nothing,
Mr
driver.
H
Mr
Ritchie
has
been
coming
here
before
us
for
a
number
of
times
that
semester's
go
along
with
Charlotte
County
and
their
opposition
to
Mosaic
and
I
think
we
need
to
get
with
Charlotte
County
get
the
wording
for
the
letter,
and
we
do
that
as
a
body
from
the
Punta
Gorda
city
council,
because
we
are
a
water
community
that
Harbor
is
important
to
us.
I
think
we
need
to
stand
with
Charlotte
County
on
this
issue.
B
S
B
Okay,
well,
we
can
look
into
that
to
see
if
the
County's
letter
for
that,
if
that
program
is
something
that
we
need
to
mirror
as
a
city
or
if
we
fall
under
there.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
we
kind
of
fall
under
there
with
our
guys,
like
you
know
the
leash
law,
for
instance,
we've.
We
follow
the
County's
rules
about
the
leash
law,
so
there
may
be
other
other
things
that
are
the
same,
but
we'll
look
into
it:
okay,
okay,
there
being
no
further
business.
We
are
adjourned.