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Punta Gorda Isles Canal Advisory Committee June 19th, 2023
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You
go
yeah,
my
name
is
Elizabeth
Cochran.
We
live
in
my
husband,
John.
We
live
at
1110,
La,
Celina,
Court
I
went
to
the
website
to
see
information
about
repair
of
the
sea.
Canals
and
I
noticed
that
our
Canal,
which
has
been
designated
high,
is
on
it
and
it's
not
on
it
at
all
and
they're
doing
the
staging
area,
which
is
closest
to
our
house,
which
just
should
finish
up
August
3rd.
So
I'm
wondering
who
do
I
talk
to
about
this,
because
I
have
pictures.
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By
contract,
the
contractors
are
supposed
to
replace
severely
eroded
properties
first
before
they
get
to
the
high,
as
ours
was
okay.
Okay,
again
come
to
my
office,
we'll
talk
about
it.
They
just
gave
us
an
initial
like
four
or
five
month
schedule
things
will
change.
Those
schedules
will
be
updated
every
30
days,
all
right.
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Okay,
moving
forward
budget
utilization
report
just
for
your
information,
they
have
started
Mangrove
trimming.
Those
guys
are
I
want
to
say
they're
over
by
the
bird
navigation.
We
have
done
some
dredging
Inlet
dredging.
We
did
Pompano
Inlet,
which
was
over
there
by
the
yacht
club.
We
had
some
siltation
build
up
from
the
storm,
they've
dredged
that
so
and
any
other
questions
or
concerns.
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Moving
forward
sea
wall
replacement
status
report,
you
will
notice
that
scheduled
dates
are
on
your
your
status
report.
These
are
going
to
change
month
to
month,
as
a
contractors
get
here,
things
happen,
they
get
more
efficient,
things
might
get
moved
up,
the
equipment
might
break
down
rain
days,
whatever
might
Scoot
a
couple
projects
out,
but
at
least
you
have
a
schedule
before
you
from
a
month-to-month
basis.
H
Expected
a
slow
start,
we
have
new
contractors
coming
to
the
area
they
needed
to
get
a
feel
for
the
type
of
equipment
they
needed
to
bring
in.
We
have
one
contractor
who's,
literally
bringing
in
four
more
barges,
so
Bart
I
should
say
barge
sections,
not
barges.
So
you
know
they're
they're,
it's
a
slow
start,
but
once
they
get
started
and
they
get
their
rhythm
going,
things
will
start
speeding
up.
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H
Again
next
year,
we
simply
asked
a
contractor,
give
us
your
first
six
months.
We
know
the
contract,
we
know
your
schedules
are
going
to
change.
We
know
that
you're
going
to
get
your
Rhythm
established
and
projects
might
move
up
or
equipment
might
break
down
or
whatever
you
know,
so
we
just
asked
them
for
a
six
months
just
to
give
these
people
an
opportunity
to
see
where
they
are
on
the
list.
That's
why
you
can
see
under
that
it
says
TBD
to
be
determined.
H
Opposed
absolutely
absolutely
so
letters
don't
forget.
Letters
are
sent
out
six
weeks
prior
to
construction,
so
these
people
that
are
scheduled
for,
like
November
those
those
letters
haven't
gone
out
yet,
but
letters
that
have
gone
out,
they're,
they're,
very
proactive
with
meeting
with
the
property
owners
pretty
much
all
the
contractors
are
doing
that
just
to
talk
about
how
they
need
to
prepare
their
backyard,
what
things
they
need
to
do
to
prepare
for
construction.
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H
Nope,
okay
permits
authorized
by
City
staff.
There
are
19
permits
listed
again.
You
guys
had
several
questions
at
our
last
meeting
and
I
sent
an
email
addressing
those.
These
are
just
permits
that
were
applied
this
month.
They
are
not
outstanding
permits,
just
permits
that
were
applied
this
month,
that
don't
require
a
variance
or
a
special
permit.
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Trust
me:
it
exceeded
our
expectations
as
well.
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
last
time
the
permit
was
renewed,
our
waterways
were
not
designated
critical
habitat
for
sawfish.
So
over
that
last
12-year
period
we've
been
labeled
as
a
critical
habitat
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
what's
making
the
process
a
little
bit
more
cumbersome.
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But
the
reason
for
the
delay
is
that
we're
currently
working
on
the
hurricane
Ian
stuff,
so
there's
no
we're
using
the
funds
to
cover
the
12
and
a
half
percent
that
the
city
is
going
to
have
to
fund
for
the
project
with
the
current
annual
program.
So
you
know
the
annual
program
is
on
hold
for
23,
as
well
as
24.
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In
fiscal
year
23
you
will
see
that
there
we
do
have
the
federal
and
state
assistance
and
that's
for
the
hurricane
Irma
rip
rep
mitigation
project.
That's
a
project,
that's
been.
We
finally
got
the
permit
this
year
and
we
are
waiting
for
the
FEMA
to
give
us
a
go-ahead
to
move
forward
with
that
project.
So
they're
still
reviewing
everything.
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In
2023,
you
also
see
the
transfer
from
a
line
of
credit
for
the
hurricane
Ian,
Seawall
Replacements
and
estimated
rip
wrap
mitigation.
So
again
we're
working
with
FEMA
closely
we're
trying
to
submit
a
mitigation
project
just
like
we
did
for
Irma
and
get
that
approved.
So
we
currently
do
not
have
any
obligations
yet,
but
we
did
you
know
we
haven't
had
problems
in
the
past,
so
we
assume
that
we
will
continue
to
move
forward
on
getting
those
obligations.
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So,
on
the
expenditure
side,
again
we
had
to
reduce
the
annual
program
and
add
the
estimated
Seawall
replacements
for
Hurricane
Ian,
as
well
as
an
estimated
amount
for
the
hazard
mitigation
in
fiscal
year.
24
the
operating
budget
is
per
request.
We
do
have
the
temporary
Community
coordinator
position.
Four
percent
merits
Pension
Plan
per
the
schedule.
We
have
a
10
match
on
Define
contribution
plan.
L
Estimated
increases
in
this
performa
are
10
for
health
insurance
and
10
percent
for
workers.
Comp
insurance
I
was
just
notified
today
that
the
actual
health
insurance
increase
is
going
to
be
11.75.
So
you'll
see
it
when
we
do
do
the
final
budget,
that'll
go
up
just
a
tad
for
the
health
insurance
on
the
property,
insurance
or
general
liability
insurance.
We've
been
notified
that
we
can
expect
approximately
100
increase
on
the
property
insurance
and
five
to
ten
percent
on
other
types
of
insurance.
L
We
do
estimate
a
small
amount
for
Seawall
Replacements
in
fiscal
year,
24,
not
the
annual
program,
but
we
did
budget
approximately
250
000
just
in
case
there's
a
rain
event,
and
we
have
a
failure.
We'll
have
some
funds
in
the
budget
to
cover
that
the
annual
program
will
resume
in
fiscal
year
25
after
completion
of
the
hurricane
Ian
replacements.
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Things
like
that,
we
will
update
all
the
budgets
once
it's
completed,
but
that
current
estimate
is
92
percent
and
a
big
part
of
that
is
that
you
know
the
the
business
model
for
It
software
now
is
more
of
subscription-based
versus
you
used
to
be
able
to
just
buy
licenses
and
you'd
have
them
for
a
certain
amount
of
time,
and
then
you'd
have
to
do
an
upgrade.
But
now,
under
the
subscription
plans
that
they're
doing
we
have
to
have
that
in
the
budget
every
year.
L
For
fiscal
year,
25-28
Inlet
dredging
is
scheduled
at
85
000
per
year.
Mangrove
trimming
is
at
65
250
per
year.
We
do
have
the
contracted
Seawall
assessment
and
it
varies
each
year
so
because
it's
in
zones,
so
it's
30
000
one
year,
twenty
thousand
the
next
year.
So
you
do
see
a
little
bit
of
decrease
in
one
year
and
then
an
increase
the
next
year
to
cover
those
estimated
increases
are
three
percent
plus
approximately
1
400
additional
lineal
footage.
L
Again,
that's
that
150
additional
assessment
that
we're
putting
in
the
in
the
budget
in
the
proforma
and
again
the
same
types
of
merits,
pensions,
estimated
at
four
percent
health
insurance
are
normal.
We
normally
see
approximately
six
percent,
so
we
would
hope
to
go
back
to
something
like
that:
workers,
comp
insurance
at
10
liability,
insurance,
five
percent,
all
other
operating
three
percent.
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L
We
show
the
repayment
of
debt
for
the
hurricane
Ian
sea
walls
and
Hazard
mitigation
in
fiscal
year
24.
If
it
gets
delayed,
it
would
move
over
to
25
so
again
we're
just
trying
to
be
have
we
have
to
have
the
budget
in
the
year
that
we
need
the
expense
in
there.
So
that's
why
you'll
see
the
whole
amount
in
there
versus
trying
to
split
it
up
over
several
years.
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Quite
how
to
phrase
this?
If,
if
we
have
to
wait
to
repay
this,
to
make
a
repayment
on
this
debt
due
to
delays
for
in
getting
the
authorization
to
do
so,
does
that
change
the
amount
of
money
that
we
owe?
Are
we
not
being
charged
interest
on
this
money,
as
it
so
far
on
this
debt,
rather
that
we're
not
repaying.
L
Now
our
drop
period
does
end
June
30th.
So
we
are
when
we
talk
to
council
about
this
at
the
last
council
meeting,
but
we
are
going
to
close
that
line
of
credit,
wrap
it
in
with
a
new
line
of
credit
or
loan,
we'll
be
going
out
to
for
a
request
for
proposals
over
the
summer
and
bringing
it
back
to
Council
in
August.
L
No,
so
FEMA
and
the
state
are
on
a
reimbursement
basis,
so
they
will
they
don't
Advance
the
funds.
So
we
have.
We
did
get
money
for
the
seawall
Replacements
right,
so
we
we
had
expended
the
funds.
We
had
used
the
line
of
credit
at
that
point
in
time
we
got
our
FEMA
reimbursements
for
the
sea
wall,
replacements
for
Hurricane
Irma
and
paid
off
that
debt.
What
we
haven't
had
was
just
that
remaining
line
of
credit
for
the
rip
rap.
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E
I
Died
so
I'm
I'm
not
real
clear
that
I'm
not
sure
that
I
understand
exactly
the
the
sea
wall
replacement
budget
that
we've
got
so
we
have
an
assessment
that
goes
into
a
fund
every
year
for
sea
wall
maintenance.
Yes,
normally
we
would
take
the
and
use
that
to
repair
the
sea
walls
that
you
know
that
are
on
the
schedule
this
year,
we're
not
doing
any
of
those
because
we're
doing
hurricane
damaged
sea
walls
correct
and
that
work
is
being
paid
for
mostly
we
anticipate
by
FEMA
and
FEMA
state
in.
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L
You
recall
from
Hurricane
Irma
to
help
pay
for
that
debt.
We
had
to
actually
add
a
hundred
dollar
assessment
and
it
was
at
first
scheduled
to
be
four
years.
We
only
had
to
do
it
for
two
years.
If
I
go
back
to
that
slide,
let
me
just
kind
of
show
you
real,
quick,
2019
and
2020.
You
see
the
hundred
dollars.
It
was
originally
scheduled
to
go
for
four
years,
but
because
FEMA
changed
the
percentage
amount,
we
were
able
to
stop
that
after
two
years,
but
we
needed
those
extra
dollars.
D
L
C
L
It's
the
opposite:
Irma
was
originally
75
and
then
the
12
and
a
half
and
the
12
and
a
half
hurricane
Ian
currently
is
at
75
12
and
a
half
twelve
and
a
half
but
retroactively
during
Hurricane
Irma,
like
it
was
probably
almost
three
years
after
the
hurricane.
They
changed
the
percentage
and
they
went
from
75
and
12
and
a
half
to
90
and
5
percent.
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L
L
So
those
are
some
of
the
items
that
are
going
to
get
replaced
in
fiscal
year,
2023
as
part
of
hurricane
Ian
Replacements,
and
then
you
just
have
other
normal
Replacements
in
fiscal
year.
24
and
25
one's
a
trailer
and
one's
a
vehicle,
and
then
we
have
the
PGI
spoil
site
channel
that
this
fund
has
been
working
on
and
you
see
the
construction
amount
scheduled
from
fiscal
year
24
through
27.
E
L
L
L
That's
why,
when
you
see
the
next
page
normally
we
would
just
show
you
our
performa
from
the
proposed
24
through
fiscal
year
28,
but
because
there's
so
much
change
from
our
original
budget,
because
we
had
to
add
in
all
these
costs
for
Hurricane,
Ian
and
different
things.
We
wanted
to
show
you
the
projected
23.
So
that's
why
we
included
that.
So
you
have
the
financing
in
there
for
the
hurricane
Ian.
Then
you
have
the
actual
sea
walls
and
down
below
the
40.4
million
estimated
for
Hurricane
Ian.
L
L
L
L
Any
other
questions,
okay,
so
we
would
just
ask
for
if,
if
you're,
okay,
with
this
presentation
and
the
assessment
rate
remaining
at
950
dollars
to
present
to
council,
we
would
just
ask
for
consensus
of
that's
what
you
would
like
us
to
bring
forward
at
the
next.
The
next
council
meeting
in
July
it'll
be.
E
L
L
D
Ron
Ludwig,
when
we
had
our
discussion
last
year,
and
we
made
our
recommendation
to
the
city
as
to
what
we
needed
to
do,
based
on
the
information
provided
by
staff,
about
the
age
of
the
sea
walls
and
and
how
quickly
we
were
going
to
need
additional
funds
to
be
able
to
keep
up
with
the
work
that
was
planned.
Okay,
I
have
to
assume
that
a
portion
of
the
FEMA
eligible
Seawall
replacement,
okay,
is
going
to
include
some
of
the
work
that
was
planned
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
years
by
by
Canal
maintenance.
D
Has
anybody
evaluated
how
that
those
properties
will
change
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
going
to
need?
So
you
know
we?
We
had
recommended
more
than
150,
but
you
know
150
was
the
target,
as
we
was
agreed
upon.
Has
anybody
looked
to
see?
Does
that
the
femur
covered
walls
reduce
the
amount
that
we
have
to
collect
from
the
the
homeowners
over
the
period
of
time,
so
where
that
we
could
possibly
reduce
the
150
to
100
or
or
we
need
to
increase
it
because
it
it
this
there
wasn't
enough
sea
wall
affected
by
Ian.
L
We
did
lose
about
seven
miles
of
Seawall
for
Hurricane
Ian,
so
that's
probably
a
big
portion,
anything
that
was
in
fiscal
years,
23
plan
those
are
not
FEMA
eligible,
so
we
did
have
to
use
funds
from
the
Regular
assessment
to
do
that
so
again,
probably
when
they
do
their
next
assessment.
That
would
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
if
you
could
back
down
or
not.
But
again
the
150
was
already
backed
down
for
the
amount
of
Seawall,
so
it
might
not
affect
it
too
much
with
using
the
150
increases.
L
I
Continuing
on
that
line,
when
we
looked
at
what
the
future
workload
was
going
to
be
in
replacing
sea
walls-
and
we
looked
at
the
age
of
the
sea
walls
and
said
this
is
what
we're
going
to
project
is
going
to
be
the
requirement
in
the
future.
It
would
seem
that
Ian
kind
of
went
out
there
and
took
out
a
bunch
of
those
walls
that
we
had
projected
were
going
to
be
in
the
in
the
shorter
term.
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Yes,
Kathy
Miller
Canal
maintenance
for
the
record.
So
when
we
do
the
seawall
assessment,
we
will
be
presenting
those
numbers
in
those
figures
to
the
committee
for
the
purpose
of
budgeting.
So
once
once
we
get
that
done.
Okay.
Obviously
it's
not
going
to
happen
this
winter,
because
this
winter
we're
focusing
on
recovering
hurricane
Ian,
damaged
sea
walls,
but
the
next
winner
is
when
we'll
be
doing
the
sea
wall
assessment.
So
we'll
bring
those
figures
to
you
and
yes,
you're
right
hurricane
Ian
did
wipe
out
some
high.
You
know
some
severe
sea
walls.
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I'm,
just
and
I'll
search
or
speak,
speak
my
mind,
I
understand
what
the
budget's
all
about
I
understand.
All
the
work
that's
gone
into
this
and
then
what
we're
looking
at
ahead
of
us
future
but
I
know
what
we've
gone
through
in
the
past
and
every
time
we
recommend
something
moving
forward.
It
kind
of
gets,
pushed
back
a
little
bit
or
gets
pushed
back
a
lot
and
I
I
can
already
predict.
You
know
we
had
an
increase
of
73
percent
from
2022
to
2023.
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Now
we're
looking
at
16
14
12
10
increases
I
know
what
council's
feelings
are
going
to
be.
If
the
constituency
is
not
going
to
like
that,
so
I
think
we
do
we're
putting
a
lot
of
work
in
it's
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
additional
work
because
of
the
pushback,
so
I'm
and
I'm
not
recognizing
I'm,
not
recommending
this
but
I'm
just
I
want
everybody
be
aware:
that's
what
we're
going
to
be
up
against
yeah.
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And
just
remember
the
cost
for
these:
the
costs
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
have
just
skyrocketed
on
a
lot
of
things.
Like
concrete
the
rebar,
you
know,
labor
costs
for
even
the
contractors
everything's
just
been
going
up,
pretty
heftily
right
over
the
past
year
and
a
half,
so
we
are
trying
to
be
conservative
but
balancing
that
with
how
much
more
Seawall
you
have
in
your
program
from
original
and
the
number
of
years
and
what's
the
estimated
life.
So
again,
we
don't
just
replace
it
just
to
replace
it.
I
I'm
pretty
comfortable
fairly
comfortable
with
how
all
this
is
going
and
you've
answered
all
the
questions
pretty
well
and
I
I,
like
the
thought,
that's
gone
into.
It
I
think
it's
important
that
that
future
discussions
that
especially
that
have
visibility
with
the
you
know
with
the
community
acknowledge
all
of
the
consideration
we
talked
about
today,
because
people
are
going
to
want
to
know
well
FEMA's
paying
for
this.
So
why
do
we
have
to
they
just
paid
for
something
that
we're
going
to
have
to
pay
for
in
the
future?