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Utility Advisory Board 2-27-2023
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C
B
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A
C
Probably
easiest
I
start
I
think
it's
the
only
one
who's
throwing
it
out
there
how's
that
okay,
my
name
is
George
ruckty,
as
you
can
tell
I'm
the
chairman
of
the
the
board
my
background
I
graduated
with
a
Bachelor
of
Science
degree
in
1964
in
civil
engineering.
So
if
anybody
wants
to
look
at
the
numbers
from
there
that's
59
years
ago,
I
was
in
both
pipe
and
pipeline.
E
Well,
I've
been
retired
seven
years,
I've
lived
here
in
Punta
Gorda
for
those
years
prior
to
that,
I
worked
for
the
Bonita
Bay
group,
I
ran
their
water
company
and
prior
to
that,
I
worked
for
Colorado
Springs
Utilities
in
water
and
wastewater
pretty
much.
My
whole
life
since
graduating
from
the
University
of
Florida
has
been
in
the
water
waste
water,
reuse
field.
F
Dave
abbreholden
I've
been
on
the
The
Advisory
board
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
I
retired,
in
2020,
from
the
city
sunrise
over
on
the
west
coast,
East
Coast,
sorry
near
Fort,
Lauderdale
I
was
the
capital
projects
coordinator
there
for
over
20
years,
worked
in
the
utility
division.
It's
just
where
capital
projects
was
I've,
been
retired
in
Punta
Gorda,
since
September
of
2020.
F
saw
an
opportunity
to
get
on
this
Advisory
board.
With
these
wonderful
gentlemen-
and
it's
it's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
the
staff
they're
very
knowledgeable,
very
committed.
At
least
one
of
the
three
is
not
kidding
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
work
with
I
welcome
you
guys.
Thank
you
and
city
of
Punta.
Gorda
is
a
great
place
to
be
involved
with,
as
I'm
sure
you
probably
know,
absolutely.
D
Scott
Howells
retired
and
sold
my
business
in
the
midwest
Nebraska
as
a
manufacturer's
representative
for
40
years,
calling
on
the
municipal's
electric
utilities,
investor
own
Utilities
in
four
states,
so
my
background's
more
electric
utility
than
plumbing
and
water.
So
this
has
been
a
kind
of
a
steep
uphill
learning
curve.
For
me,
I've
been
on
the
board
for
a
week
longer
than
David.
So
I've
got
some
seniority
there.
D
C
G
Mr
Rooney,
yes,
my
name
is
Derek
Rooney
I've
lived
here
in
Punta
Gorda
since
2006.
I
am
a
local
government
attorney
I've
worked
for
seven
years
for
Charlotte
County
and
represented
many
departments,
including
utilities
from
time
to
time.
I
continue
to
practice
and
represent
a
number
of
cities
in
Southwest
Florida
and
several
utilities
and
I
came
on
the
board.
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C
C
I
I
D
C
D
J
I
And
we
have
a
couple
projects
going
on
that
I
believe
Steve
will
talk
about
in
a
CIP
project.
We
have
some
areas
where,
after
rain
events,
a
lot
of
rain,
a
lot
of
the
rain
water
gets
into
the
Wastewater
system.
We
have
a
project
going
on
in
an
Alleyway
between
grace
and
Ann
Street
off
McGregor,
that's
going
to
be
replaced
that
has
a
real
high
infiltration
of
rain
water
and
then
also
the
baynard
area.
There's
a
project
going
to
be
going
on
there
too,
and
that
should
alleviate
some
of
that.
I
I
The
current
Reservoir
level
is
it's
not
on
the
sheet,
but
I
just
wrote
it
down
this
morning
is
5.10
feet
the
no
flow
situation.
No
water
comes
over
the
dam
at
five
feet,
so
we
still
got
some
water
moving
I'm
already
hoping
for
rain.
It's
it's
early,
but
I'm
always
looking
forward
to
the
Rain
rainy
season
and
we
will
see
that
in
the
in
the
TDS
charges.
Next.
I
You
can
see
the
the
red
lines,
the
surface
water
plant
and
it's
it's
creeping
up
to
the
500,
the
maximum
contaminant
level,
but
with
the
RO
plant,
kicking
its
water
and
it's
keeping
it
just
under
300.
So
it's
really
good,
but
without
the
rain
and
the
water
levels
going
down,
the
surface
water
levels
will
go
up,
but
the
RO
plant
will
be
able
to
keep
it
where
we're
still
in
still
where
we're
supposed
to
be.
C
K
K
If
there
was
a
catastrophic
failure
in
the
surface
water
plant
went
down,
we
would
still
be
able
to
provide
water
to
our
customers,
but
we
would
need
to
buy
it
from
the
authority.
There's
two
pipelines
that
connect
us
to
the
authority
we'd
have
to
turn
both
of
them.
Our
Direction
and
say
turn
them
wide
open,
but
you
would
not
be
out
of
water.
J
Steve
Adams
utilities
department
we're
going
to
go
over
a
summary
of
our
CIP
projects
on
the
screen
right
now,
we're
showing
you
the
master
pumping
facility.
This
is
located
at
900,
Henry
Street,
which
is
very
near
the
dog
park,
and
what
we
have
here
is
a
Wastewater
helping
station
approximately
2001.
We
installed
all
new
pumping
equipment
and
this
project
will
replace
that
with
new
in-kind
equipment.
J
J
A
J
J
So
we
began
construction
early
this
year
we
were
going
to
start
it
right
before
the
hurricane,
but
because
of
the
hurricane
we
had
a
delay.
But
now
the
hurricane
cleanup
is
pretty
much
behind
us.
We've
got
our
contractor
started.
He
started
at
the
Alligator
Creek
Bridge,
which
is
in
the
South
part
of
this
figure,
and
we've
currently
made
it
up
to
the
Walmart
driveway.
F
J
J
J
This
whole
Community
mostly
had
water
lines
but
they're,
just
a
few
streets
up
here
that,
for
whatever
reason,
we're
not
done
when
that
project
went
in
a
long
time
ago,
and
really
it's
darn
near
complete,
we're
working
on
some
close
out
paperwork
with
the
contractor
to
place
it
in
the
service
and
get
through
some
County
permitting
on
restoration.
So
it's
getting
close
to
the
finish
line.
K
K
K
C
We
had
Mr
Peters
mentioned
about
the
the
fact
that
the
first
portion
of
the
inflation
I
guess
you
would
related
to
when
we
went
from
36
to
57
I
was
informed
that
you
went
through
that
line
item
by
line
item
by
line
item
and
knowing
what
I
do
know
of
you.
I
can
imagine
that's
just
where
it
belongs
with
that.
C
There
isn't
a
thing
that
a
civil
engineer
builds
that
isn't
reliant
on
the
the
soil
to
be
supportive
of
it,
and
so
it
was
a
concern
to
me
that
it
was
a
a
late
evaluation
but
understanding
I
was
in
pre-stressed
concrete,
pipe
and
much
like
your
tanks.
No
one
really
was
very
knowledgeable
about
the
pipe
design
that
was
left
entirely
up
to
the
pipe
supplier.
C
So
when
Mr
Peters
also
mentioned
that
some
of
your
tanks
have
quite
a
bit
heavier
walls
than
or
thicker
walls,
at
least
than
than
some
existing.
That
was
a
question
to
me,
which
is
driving
the
piles.
Is
it
the
soil
condition?
Is
it
the
heavy
wall?
Would
a
lighter
wall
be
able
to
avoid
that
the
piles,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
general
question
but
Mr
Leonard?
If
you
could
address
that
I'd
appreciate
it.
K
K
All
that
weight's
got
to
be
supported
by
something
and
when
you
go
to
a
pile
design,
this
was
where
I
was
a
little
ignorant.
I
thought.
Well.
If
we
could
lighten
this
up,
maybe
we
don't
need
piles.
What
it
would
really
mean
if
we
lightened
it
up
was
the
pile
spacing
could
increase,
because
from
what
I'm
gathering
we
are
not
relying
on
the
soil
under
the
structure
to
hold
the
structure,
the
structure
is
going
to
be
supported
by
the
piles,
so
there's
no.
K
The
allowable
settlement
is
like
point
two
of
an
inch
once
it's
on
piles.
I
guess
this
is
outside
my
realm
of
expertise,
I'm
a
pump
and
pipe
guy
I.
You
know
anything
underground,
I
kind
of
hate,
because
all
it
seems
is
it's
money,
but
I
was
informed
that,
because
we
had
a
104
foot
span
with
no
cross
wall,
that
the
moment
of
inertia
at
the
base
of
that
wall
required
that
two
and
a
half
foot
thick
and
it
wasn't
a
conservative
number.
That's
and
all
I
I
said
listen.
All
I
can
do
is
pay.
K
F
K
That
is
very
possible
that
I
was
told
that
by
code,
that's
what
it
needed
to
be.
They
didn't
quote
chapter
and
verse
to
me.
So
I
can't
tell
you
what
code,
but
they
said
to
me
minimum
code.
That's
what
I
was
up
against
you
know:
I
took
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
Gamble
and
had
the
geotechnical
work
redone
to
make
sure
second
report
come
back
the
same
way.
I
mean
there's,
there's
nothing.
I
can
say.
C
K
No
well
it's
it's
one
structure
and
there's
three
we'll
say:
trains
three
past
the
water
can
take
each
one
or
individual
and
I
think
round
numbers
I
think
they're
around
a
half
a
million
each.
They
might
be
more
than
that.
They
have
a
sidewall
depth
of
22
foot
of
water
column
in
them,
so
they're
pretty
tall
tanks,
they're
going
deep
in
the
ground.
K
K
Are
scheduled
to
have
a
meeting
on
March
8th
for
the
with
the
zoning
board
for
the
for
that,
so
it's
going
really
well.
We've
got
some
struggles
with
some
of
the
local
residents
there,
they're
convinced
where
big
government
we're
bad
we're
tearing
up
we're
going
to
make
them
go
on
sewer
that
kind
of
thing
so
we're
addressing
those
as
they
come.
A
Steve
and
getting
back
to
the
tanks
is
this
a
new
design
radically
different
from
anything?
That's
been
around
the
last
15
20
years,
not
at
all,
so
these
engineering
calculations
and
wall
thickness
determinations.
This
is
something
that
is
common
in
the
industry
today.
This
is
not
something
new
for
us.
I.
K
Yeah
I,
don't
know,
I
mean
that
our
tanks
are
kind
of
an
exclusive
design
to
us
their
size.
Just
us,
it's
not
like
an
exact
replica
of
something
that's
sitting
somewhere
else.
The
you
know
the
the
water
depth
and
everything
changes
at
each
location
based
on
the
footprint
available
to
them,
the
duration
of
the
time
of
the
water,
as
it
passes
through
your
Cycles
there's
anoxic
and
aeration
cycles,
and
that
that's
kind
of
a
set
formula,
and
then
they
build
the
tank
to
accommodate
okay.
L
C
C
But
he
came
to
one
other
thing
that
I
took
a
look
at
and
that's
we're
looking
at
this
septic
to
sewer
issue
with
Charlotte,
Park
and
Rio,
via
and
in
that.
According
to
the
book
in
in
Mr
Peters,
pretty
much
supported
the
fact
that
that
would
have
to
be
vacuum.
Sewers
at
least
that's
the
way
it's
being
looked
at,
and
my
issue
was
with
the
such
sewers.
There
are
pretty
complex
and
very
specific
in
the
what
they
can
do.
C
G
It
happened
about
a
week
ago
and
a
lot
of
communities
are
going
to
be
submitting
for
items
that
and
I
looked
at
the
list
of
approval
items.
It
might
include
something
like
Charlotte
Park,
the
conversion,
because
those
septic
tanks
are
so
susceptible
to
water
level,
rises
and
impacts
on
the
system.
So.
I
Was
that
it
Steve?
That's
it
yeah
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
the
maximum
pricing
we
received.
We
received
it
Friday
and
that's
why
it
wasn't
an
agenda
item
on
the,
but
we
did
want
to
bring
it
up
to
the
board
during
the
CIP,
because
at
some
point
it
will
be
going
to
I.
Guess
the
council,
so
I
don't
know
if
that'll
be
this
month
or
beginning
of
well
March
or
the
beginning
of
April.
But
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
brought
to
your
attention
first.
I
G
I
A
B
B
Did
everyone
have
a
chance
to
review
the
materials?
Do
you
have
any
questions
off
the
bat
all
right
so
effective
boards
are
those
that
remain
forward-looking,
understand
the
duties
and
responsibilities
within
their
purview
prioritize.
The
purpose
of
the
board
over
personal
desires
treat
staff,
the
public
and
fellow
members
with
respect,
follow
council's
adopted
rules
of
conduct
which
are
respect.
Each
person
share
responsibility,
criticize
only
ideas,
not
people,
keep
an
open,
mind
question
and
participate,
attend
all
meetings
and
listen
constructively.
B
B
The
vice
chair
runs
meetings
only
in
the
chair's
absence.
They
ensure
proper
procedure
and
decorum
are
observed,
maintain
order
and
vote
on
all
motions
unless
a
conflict
of
interest
exists.
The
chair,
or
vice
chair
serving
as
chair,
must
relinquish
the
gavel
to
make
or
second
motions
and
whoever
is
serving
will
sign
minutes
after
they
are
approved.
B
Everyone
needs
to
make
sure
that
they
refrain
from
engaging
in
sidebar
conversations
during
meetings,
as
these
are
Sunshine.
Law
violations
refrain
from
use
of
profanity
and
our
board
members
are
going
to
be
the
ones
who
make
all
the
motions
and
just
like
the
vice
chair
and
chair.
They
also
need
to
be
voting
on
all
motions
unless
a
conflict
of
interest,
as
defined
by
State
Statute
exists.
B
There
are
two
departments
that
are
assisting
your
board:
one
is
the
city
clerk's
office,
our
office
tracks,
appointments
and
attendance
administers
the
oath
of
office,
provides
an
orientation
and
educational
materials
to
new
members
and
assist
the
board
with
meeting
procedures
as
necessary.
During
the
meeting,
our
office
also
provides
a
recording
secretary,
who
prepares
minutes
and
recordings.
B
B
They
also
provide
staff,
Who,
present
agenda
items
and
or
reports,
and
can
answer
board
member
questions
in
advance
of
meetings
before
we
can
call
a
meeting
to
order.
We
have
to
have
a
quorum
established.
That
is
a
physical
presence
of
the
majority
of
the
total
regular
seats
on
the
board
for
your
board.
That
is
a
minimum
of
four
members
who
are
present
and
seated
at
the
diocese
before
we
can
begin.
B
This
is
required
in
order
to
call
a
meeting
to
order
and
must
be
maintained
throughout
the
meeting
without
a
quorum.
The
board
is
limited
to
taking
these
procedural
actions
recessing,
at
which
point
staff
can
take
measures
to
obtain
a
quorum
such
as
calling
members
to
see
if
they're
stuck
in
traffic,
but
still
planning
on
coming
and
adjourning.
If
a
quorum
cannot
be
reached,
any
questions
so
far
for
meeting
etiquette,
we
ask
that
everyone
arrive,
prepared
and
be
seated
five
to
ten
minutes
prior
to
the
start
of
the
meeting.
B
That
way
we
can
determine
if
we
are
facing
any
Quorum
issues.
Each
speaker
should
be
recognized
by
the
chair
before
speaking
with
only
one
person.
Speaking
at
a
time,
comments
should
be
confined
to
the
current
issue
with
repetition
avoided
when
possible.
Discussion
should
alternate
between
pro
and
con
arguments
in
no
lengthy
papers
should
be
read
during
the
meeting
and
again
sidebar
conversations
are
prohibited,
as
they
are
a
Sunshine
Law
violation,
verbal
attacks
of
members,
staff
applicants
or
the
public
will
not
be
tolerated
and
rules
are
to
be
respected
and
obeyed.
B
Our
meeting
procedures
are
as
follows:
a
quorum
is
established
and
then
the
chair
will
call
the
meeting
to
order
with
the
wrap
of
the
gavel
public
comment.
Procedures
are
reviewed
as
necessary
if
there
are
individuals
making
public
comment
that
the
timer
should
be
used
to
limit
public
comment
to
three
minutes
per
individual
business
is
placed
on
the
floor
by
the
chair,
reading
and
agenda
items
title.
The
current
agenda
item
must
be
dispensed
of
before
the
next
item
is
introduced.
B
The
chair
is
responsible
for
keeping
discussions
focused
and
reminding
members
of
the
purpose
of
the
item
and
any
remaining
areas
to
be
addressed.
The
chair
may
also
call
for
a
motion.
If
no
new
points
are
made
and
emotion
is
necessary,
the
chair
is
responsible
for
ending
any
sidebar
conversations
they
observe
between
members
and
ensuring
that
proper
motions
are
made.
B
B
B
Sometimes
public
hearings
are
heard
by
our
boards.
These
can
include
presentations
of
up
to
30
minutes
by
staff,
the
applicant
and
any
interveners,
if
applicable,
followed
by
a
public
comment
period.
Public
comment
period
is
intended
for
members
to
take
in
the
views
of
the
public.
It
is
not
a
question
and
answer
session
comments
are
limited
to
a
maximum
of
three
minutes
per
speaker.
There
is
no
limit
to
the
number
of
people
who
can
speak.
B
B
Those
voting
in
opposition
to
a
request
must
cite
a
reason
for
doing
so.
Following
a
vote
for
parliamentary
procedure,
the
city
of
pinagorda
does
not
strictly
follow
Robert's
Rules
of
Order.
Instead,
the
chair
is
responsible
for
explaining
to
the
public
what
the
board
is
doing,
keeping
the
board
and
the
public
informed
while
proceeding
with
an
item
and
advancing
the
results
of
any
action
taken
by
the
board.
Members
should
wait
to
be
recognized
by
the
chair
before
speaking.
B
Stay
focused
on
the
topic
at
hand
and
avoid
repetitious
discussion
and
make
motions,
as
needed,
motions
signal,
a
desire
to
take
a
specific
action
action
to
be
voted
on
by
all
members
at
the
diocese.
There
are
seven
steps
to
making
a
motion.
First,
a
member
should
ask
to
be
recognized
by
the
chair.
The
chair
then
recognizes
that
member
the
member
can
State
their
motion,
after
which
another
member
can
second
the
motion.
B
B
B
B
B
Only
two
amendments
may
be
offered
before
one
must
be
voted
upon,
but
the
second
amendment
being
voted
on
first,
following
any
discussion
of
it.
If
the
Second
Amendment
passes,
it
is
incorporated
into
the
First
Amendment
following
any
remaining
discussion
of
the
First
Amendment,
a
vote
is
taken
on
that
Amendment.
B
B
Miss
Jones
requests
the
chair's
recognition.
The
chair
recognizes
Miss
Jones
Miss
Jones
states
that
she
moves
to
amend
the
motion
by
adding
subject
to
staff
review
after
application
and
someone
seconds
that
motion
Mr
Brown
signals
a
desire
to
speak.
The
chair
recognizes
Mr
Brown
Mr
Brown
states
that
he
moves
to
amend
the
motion
by
replacing
staff
with
legal
and
someone
seconds
that
motion
as
well.
B
B
So
then
there's
an
eye
vote
taken
and
a
Nave
vote
taken
we'll
say
that
the
motion
carries
in
this
example.
The
amendment
on
the
floor
then
stands
to
add,
subject
to
Legal
review
after
application.
The
chair
then
calls
for
any
discussion
of
that
Amendment.
If
there
is
none,
they'll
go
ahead
and
move
forward
to
the
vote.
At
that
point,
we'll
say
that
the
motion
carried
unanimously.
The
main
motion
on
the
floor
would
then
be
to
recommend
approval
of
the
application
subject
to
Legal
review.
B
The
chair
would
then
call
for
any
further
discussion
and
a
vote
is
still
required
on
that
main
motion.
At
that
point
there
are
a
number
of
types
of
motions
that
can
be
made
and
we
have
put
together
a
handbook
that
we
are
looking
to
provide
to
members
very
soon
as
soon
as
our
attorney
approves
some
recommended
language
for
motions.
B
B
This
applies
to
any
physical
or
virtual
Gathering
of
two
or
more
members
of
the
same
elected
or
appointed
board.
No
two
or
more
members
of
a
board
may
discuss
City
business
outside
of
a
properly
noticed
public
meeting,
which
has
been
called
to
order
which
has
a
quorum
and
at
which
minutes
are
taken.
B
However,
if
one
of
you
sends
an
email
with
information
to
your
fellow
members
and
someone
then
replies
with
questions
and
comments
about
how
they
feel
about
this,
it
could
be
argued
that
a
discussion
has
taken
place
at
that
point
and
there
could
be
consequences
related
to
violation
of
the
Sunshine
Law
if
a
member
of
the
public
were
to
bring
forward
a
complaint
to
the
commission
on
ethics.
So
we
strongly
recommend
members
avoid
communication
outside
of
public
meetings
regarding
anything
that
might
come
forward
before
the
board.
B
Telephone
participation
by
an
absent
member
is
only
permissible
when
there
is
a
quorum
of
the
board
physically
present
in
the
absences.
Due
to
extraordinary
circumstances
such
as
illness
and
the
board
approved
such
participation,
this
was
fairly
simple
to
accommodate
at
our
old
location.
However,
we
don't
have
a
landline
like
we
had
at
our
old
Chambers.
So
if
you
know
that
you
are
going
to
have
something
like
a
surgery,
please
contact
us
in
advance
so
that
we
can
try
to
make
arrangements
to
where
you
could
participate
by
phone
if
necessary,
non-disruptive
or
silent.
B
Videotaping
of
a
public
meeting
cannot
be
banned.
This
does
occur
on
occasion
as
long
as
the
individual
is
remaining
seated
quietly
and
not
yelling
out,
there's
nothing
that
can
be
done
to
stop
them
from
doing
so.
We
also
are
recording
the
meeting.
It's
really
no
different
than
that
consequences
for
violation
of
the
Sunshine
Law
include
criminal
penalties,
removal
from
Office,
non-criminal
charges,
fines
and
attorney
fees.
B
It's
the
content
of
a
record
that
determines,
if
it's
a
public
record,
not
the
format
public
records
do
include
social
media
posts
regarding
official
business.
So
we
also
strongly
recommend
you
not
post
about
items
that
will
be
coming
before
the
board
on
any
social
media
accounts
you
may
have
records
to
or
from
board
members
regarding,
City
business
are
public
records
too.
B
Public
records
must
be
retained
and
disposed
of
in
accordance
with
the
state's
general
records
schedules.
At
the
end
of
a
member's
term
of
appointment,
records
should
be
provided
to
a
member's
successor
or
the
city
clerk's
office
records
must
not
be
destroyed
or
otherwise
disposed
of.
Prior
to
meeting
the
required
retention
period
established
per
the
appropriate
state
general
records
schedule.
B
Members
agenda
packets
need
not
be
retained,
as
the
city
clerk's
office
maintains
the
record
copy
of
all
such
material.
You
are
free
to
get
rid
of
it
following
the
meeting
forward
or
copy
any
emails
you
receive
or
send
regarding
City
business
to
retention.
At
city
of
Punta,
Gorda,
fl.com
other
than
those
sent
to
you
or
from
City
staff,
utilizing
a
city
email
account.
Those
will
end
in
either
at
Peak
order.us
or
at
ci.punta-gorda.fl.us
or
city
of
Punta
Gorda
fl.com.
B
Penalties
for
violating
the
code
of
ethics
range
from
a
misdemeanor
to
felony
of
the
third
degree,
as
well
as
removal
from
Office
public
censure,
the
Civil
penalty,
not
to
exceed
ten
thousand
dollars
in
restitution
of
any
pecuniary
benefits
received.
If
members
would
like,
we
can
email
you
the
most
recent
copy
of
a
guide
to
the
sunshine
amendment
in
Code
of
Ethics
following
this
meeting,
would
anyone
be
interested
in
that.
B
Article
2
Section
Five
of
Florida
Constitution
prohibits
any
person
from
serving
on
more
than
one
decision-making
board.
This
board
is
an
Advisory
board
that
makes
recommendations
to
councils.
So
if
Council
decides
to
start
appointing
people
to
serve
on
multiple
boards
again,
you
would
be
eligible
to
serve
on
other
City
boards.
B
B
Relative
means
the
elected
or
appointed
individual's
father,
mother,
son,
daughter,
husband,
wife,
brother,
sister,
father-in-law,
mother-in-law,
son-in-law
or
daughter-in-law.
A
business
associate
means
any
person
or
entity
engaged
in
or
carrying
on
a
business
Enterprise
with
the
officer.
As
a
partner,
joint
venture,
co-owner
of
property
or
corporate
shareholder,
where
the
shares
of
the
corporation
are
not
listed
on
any
national
or
Regional
Stock
Exchange,
a
conflict
of
interest
that
meets
all
of
these
requirements
is
fairly
rare
and
we
don't
anticipate
members
necessarily
having
one.
B
So
if
you
think
you
will
have
a
conflict
of
interest
on
any
matter
coming
before
the
board,
we
ask
that
you
contact
our
office
in
advance
that
we
can
determine
if
there
is
in
fact
a
conflict
of
interest,
and
if
so,
so,
we
can
give
you
a
form
8B
which
must
be
filed.
If
a
member
does
have
a
conflict
of
interest
in
order
to
abstain
from
voting
and
that's
it
for
the
education
session,
do
we
have
any
questions?
B
C
F
At
the
last
meeting
we
discussed
presentation
by
Brandon
Moody
I
received
an
email
from
someone
in
the
city
that
clarified
he
was
doing
a
local
presentation
and
we
as
a
board,
were
invited
as
long
as
we
didn't
discuss
it.
I
I
knew
people
that
went
to
that
I,
don't
think
any
board
members
attended,
so
I
just
wanted
to
say:
I
didn't
pursue
that
anymore
because
it
was,
you
know,
put
out
there
to
everybody.
C
E
Chair
yeah,
I
I
really
did
want
to
attend
that
meeting.
I
think
I
had
brought
it
up
that
they
wouldn't.
Let
me
in
the
yacht
club
to
go
to
the
presentation,
so
I
just
want
to
tell
you
I
really
wanted
to
go
to
that,
but
I
had
Crowder
Roofing
coming
to
my
house
and
I'd
been
in
the
queue
for
three
months
and
go
because
of
that.
Is
there
any
information
that
staff
or
anyone
can
provide
us
as
far
as
what
how
that
presentation
went
or
what
was
revealed
that
was
significant
Etc
I.
I
E
Let's
ask
water
quality,
yeah
I
think
it's
important
he's
been
studying
it
now
for
18
months
or
I.
Don't
know,
however,
long
he's
been
there
at
this
position.
I
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
data
looks.
Like
that's
what's
important
to
me.
I,
he
went
through
some
things
and
I
went
to
the
public
hearing
whenever
it
was
I
lose
track
of
time
and
I.
Remember
I
made
the
recommendation.
E
B
E
E
G
B
G
E
L
G
Think
so
I
feel,
like
maybe
the
question
to
go
back
to
the
assistant
city
managers
to
ask
you
know:
if
does
he
have
any
post-storm
data?
Does
he
have
any
recommendations
to
the
County
Commission,
yet,
obviously
that
that
hasn't
happened
yet
so
I
just
feel
like
otherwise
we're
we're
not
going
to
get
the
answers.
We're
looking
for
I,
don't
want
to
put
them
on
the
spot
until
he's
ready
to
well.
C
F
I
may
Mr,
chair,
Mr,
Moody
I've,
seen
his
presentation.
It
is
very
knowledgeable
and
I
say
it's
kind
of
to
Dennis
it's
preliminary.
He
is
collecting
data
I'm
on
a
I,
don't
know
citizens
group
or
whatever,
as
a
member
of
the
Charlotte
Harbor
Environmental
Center
and
there's
a
whole
group,
it's
you
know:
seagrass
heal
our
Harbor
Brandon's
there.
It's
whole
group,
it's
it's
facilitated
by
Ms
Johnson,
with
Team
Punta
Gorda.
F
There's
different
things
happening
towards
that
end
of
what
is
happening
in
our
Harbor.
How
can
we
prevent
any
harm
coming
to
it?
Are
we?
Is
it
a
healthy
Harbor?
All
the
questions
we
all
as
not
as
members
of
the
board,
but
as
residents
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
care,
the
only
there's
more
data
collection
being
on
as
the
hilar
harbor
is,
is
coming
up
with
citizen
volunteers
that
are
pulling
samples,
they're
analyzing
it
you
know,
I
have
not
seen
any
data.
F
I
think
I
agree
with
with
Derek
that
you
know
maybe
some
time
I
think
it'll
probably
be
presented
and
then
we'll
get
it
as
opposed
to
him
coming
and
presenting
it.
That's
just
my
my
take
on
it.
We're
working
we
I'm,
saying:
Charlotte
Harbor,
Environmental
Center,
we're
working
on
a
pilot
program
to
replenish
the
oyster
population,
to
help
clean
the
harbor,
and
please
know
despairing
words
towards
the
other
ones.
We're
here
we've
got
funding
we're
going
ahead
and
everybody
else
is.
Oh,
we
got
to
talk
about
what
we're
doing
so.
F
G
C
G
G
I
think
the
the
goal
probably
would
be
is
at
some
point
once
the
county
is
identified.
What
it
wants
to
do
with
with
water
quality.
I
know
that
they've,
like
looked
at
the
barrier
islands,
for
instance,
they've,
looked
at
going
septic
to
sewer
on
the
barrier,
islands
and
they've
been
supportive
of
that
once
the
Brandon's
work
has
gotten
far
enough
that
he
has
recommendations.
The
County
Commission
as
far
as
pursuing
additional
septic
to
sewer
I
think
that's.
When
we
get
what
we
should
be
getting
involved
to
try
to
say
now.
G
Can
you
work
with
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
on
addressing
some
of
the
outlying
areas
of
the
city
like
The
Enclave,
at
Charlotte
Park,
to
get
that
water
quality
and
tissue
addressed
through
utilities,
so
I
I
think
the
city's
keeping
tabs
on
on
having
conver
their
conversations
with
the
county.
I
think
that
that's
how
we
monitor
it.
F
You
know
it's
if
I
hear
I'll,
let
you
know
if
any
of
us
here
I'm
sure
we
would,
you
know,
bring
it
up
because
I
think
I
agree.
It's
an
important
and
you
want
to
keep
your
finger
on
it
rather
than
oh,
my
gosh
it's
too
late
so
and
I
I
would
just
offer
that
what
I'm
seeing
happen
is
there
is
movement
from
you
know:
sea
grass
and
chanep
and
all
those
acronyms
in
a
positive
direction,
and
that's
to
me
as
quote-unquote
in
an
environmentalist
I
I
have
a
a
nice
warm
fuzzy
feeling
about
that.
C
B
B
The
responsibilities
of
chairs
and
vice
chairs,
so
they
elected
each
February.
We
went
through
the
slide
just
a
few
minutes
ago,
so
I'll
skip
through
it.
For
you
guys,
the
knowledge
we
think
it's
important
for
a
chair
advisor
to
have
is
that
they
understand
the
basic
parliamentary
procedure,
especially
for
motions.
They
understand
the
procedures
for
public
comment.
The
process
for
legislative
inquasi-judicial,
public
hearings
understand
this
and
assist
staff
to
enforce
the
Sunshine.
B
Law,
understand
the
basics
of
the
public
records
law
or
familiar
with
the
bylaws
familiar
with
the
approval
criteria
for
any
hearings
that
come
before
you
and
the
board
member
handbook
does
cover
all
of
these
topics.
The
city
clerk's
office
will
also
be
providing
additional
training
to
chairs
and
vice
chairs
and
are
available
to
answer
any
questions,
and
we've
already
hit
on
this
as
well
so
I'm
going
to
skip
through
that
for
you
as
far
as
maintaining
order
goes.
B
Whoever
is
serving
this
chair
should
lead
by
example,
adhere
to
the
rules
of
conduct,
ensure
board
members,
do
as
well
be
fair
and
impartial
in
treatment
of
board
members
staff
and
the
public.
Insist,
unruly
or
disorderly
individuals
be
courteous
in
language
and
presentation,
request:
individuals
who
fail
to
comply
to
leave
the
meeting
if
order
is
not
restored
recess
the
meeting
so
that
staff
can
take
actions
to
ensure
it
is
restored.
C
As
we
stated
at
the
last
meeting,
I
have
served
for
two
years.
I've
been
very
appreciative
of
the
opportunity
of
being
your
chair,
but
I.
Think
two
years,
probably
is
is
enough
and
it's
time
for
someone
else
to
be
a
movie
into
this
lot,
particularly
seeing
as
how
we're
now
getting
into
the
Wastewater
project
and
that'll
probably
be
a
couple
of
more
years
in
the
the
works
and
I'd
only
have
one
more
year
to
do.