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From YouTube: City Council Meeting 03-21-18 Part 1
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A
B
Now,
gracious
and
Heavenly
Father.
First,
we
thank
you
for
the
privilege
of
living
in
a
country
where
we
enjoy
the
many
freedoms
provided
by
our
founding
fathers,
in
their
wisdom,
the
freedom
in
their
assembly
and
to
assemble
and
to
speak
our
minds
without
fear
and
retribution.
We
also
wish
to
invoke
your
special
blessings
on
the
results
of
our
work
in
this
council.
The
success
we
have
made
all
with
your
help
and
guidance.
B
C
Well,
thank
you,
mayor
councilmen
and
Councilwoman
in
mr.
Kunik
I.
Think
I
spoke
with
each
of
you
a
little
bit
earlier
today
and
I've
been
in
communication
with
each
of
you
throughout
this
legislative
process
and
was
wonderful
to
host
the
mayor
and
Councilman
Cummings
in
Tallahassee
during
the
legislative
session
this
year.
They
can
tell
you
more
about
that
trip.
Maybe
they
gave
you
an
after-action
report
already.
Maybe
they
even
shared
some
photos.
I've
got
a
few
you'd
like
to
see.
C
Maybe
they
didn't
show
you,
but
at
all
will
that
part
of
it
all
went
well
to
summarize
quickly.
Let
me
get
just
give
you
an
overview
of
what's
been
happening
in
the
capital,
the
political
dynamics
that
have
governed
the
climate
there
and
then
what
I
think
we're
looking
at
going
forward.
First
of
all,
as
you
as
you
know,
it's
a
annual
60-day
legislative
session.
We
ended
up
extending
three
extra
days
in
order
to
get
a
budget
deal
between
the
house
and
the
Senate,
which
has
now
gone
on
to
the
governor
and
he's
already
signed
it.
C
The
session
began
by
being
largely
dominated.
You
know,
typically,
typically
each
year,
there's
some
major
issue
that
casts
the
environment
or
the
climate
of
the
of
the
session
going
forward
this
year.
At
the
beginning,
it
was
hurricane
Irma,
just
coming
off
of
that
and
the
recognition
that
Florida
had
a
big
bill
to
pay,
of
course,
and
a
lot
of
activities
involved
policy
wise
as
well,
to
become
increasingly
prepared
for
natural
disasters,
the
south
and
south
florida.
C
Some
of
the
members
outside
South
Florida
tended
to
forget
the
priority
of
that,
and
we
all
were
kind
of
fighting
to
get
the
funding
back
in
for
that
initiative
and
right
about
that
time
is
when
the
parkland
issue
hit
and
then
that
really
took
over
and
dominated
not
just
the
politics,
as
you
have
read
about,
but
also
the
appropriations.
So
the
budget
was
very
tight.
Going
into
this
session.
C
C
Most
germane
to
us
would
be,
for
example,
the
preemption
issues
and
a
host
of
bills
that
have
continued
to
move
through
the
session
through
the
legislature
typically
dying
towards
the
end,
but
that
would
preempt
more
decision-making
authority
from
the
local
government
up
to
the
state
government
so
much
so
that
it
appeared
and
has
a
and
still
does
appear
to
be
a
bit
of
a
trend.
There
is
no
one
single
bill
that
says
we're
gonna
do
away
with
Home
Rule
Authority
or
there's
no
bill.
C
That
says
that
the
legislature
and
the
state
are
going
to
preempt
powers
of
the
local
governments,
but
on
an
issue-by-issue
basis.
There
are
examples
of
that
and
most
all
of
them
when
you
really
reach
behind
the
curtain.
What
you
find
is
that
they
result
from
some
anecdotal
scenario
that
was
actually
legitimate
and
requires
action
in
one
one
specific
community,
but
then
at
times,
there's
a
bit
of
an
overreaction
and
a
bill
gets
filed
to
make
a
state
policy.
A
good
example
would
be
the
the
CRA
bills
that
have
moved
through
the
legislative
process.
C
Two
or
three
years
in
a
row.
You
have
a
couple
of
Community
Redevelopment
agencies
out
of
over
400.
You
have
one
or
two
of
them
in
the
Lower
East
Coast
and
by
the
way,
almost
all
these
issues,
I'm
gonna,
get
in
trouble
here,
but
almost
all
of
them
emerge
from
Miami
the
Lower
East
Coast
right.
So
there's
a
CRA
in
the
Lower
East
Coast,
where
indeed
there
were.
C
So
but
but
that's
a
good,
that's
a
good
example.
So
there
are
a
whole
host
of
those
bills.
There
was
one
this
year
related
to
decisions
about
tree
trimming.
Well,
you
can
this
story
kind
of
writes
itself.
You
could
imagine
that
was
based
upon
some
anecdotal
scenario
in
some
municipality
or
County,
where
some
legislator
was
upset
about
presumably
tree
trimming
and
in
so
a
statewide
bill
gets
filed
to
preempt
decisions
about
tree
trimming
again
that
bill
died
in
essentially
all
of
those
preemption
bills.
C
We
ultimately
are
able
to
hold
back,
but
it
does
take
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
and
resources,
and
it
certainly
heightens
our
awareness
and
our
attention
to
the
relationship
between
local
government
and
state
government.
So
those
are
the
issues
that
generally
have
permeated
throughout
the
legislative
session.
C
So
some
of
the
preemption
issues
emanate
from
that.
As
you
know,
last
year
we
passed
an
uber
bill
that
essentially
meted
out
a
compromise
between
local
governments
which
draw
revenue
off
of
the
taxicabs
in
uber,
which
was
caused
to
agree
to
certain
levels
of
regulations.
But
obviously,
the
result
of
that
is
a
disruption
in
the
marketplace
and
a
disruption
in
the
power
and
authority
between
local
government
and
state
government
because
they
wanted
to
have
a
uniform
system.
C
So
in
that
vein,
vacation
rentals
in
the
perception
that
there
was
an
emerging
patchwork
of
regulations
related
to
you
know,
weather
and
where
and
the
extent
to
which
you
can
alienate
your
own
property.
So
it's
bound
up
in
a
property
rights
issue
but
at
the
same
time
concerns
about
operating
a
private
residence,
essentially
like
a
hotel
and
so
there's
an
interesting
intellectual
debate.
It
worked
its
way
through
the
legislative
session
came
closer
to
passing
last
year
than
this
year,
but
again,
ultimately,
that
bill
did
not
pass
by
the
way.
C
One
of
the
provisions
that
we
saw
as
a
fallback
in
that
bill
was
a
grandfathering
position.
Provision
for
pre
2011,
so
any
local
governments
that
had
ordinances
in
place
related
to
vacation
rentals
would
have
been
exempted
from
that
bill.
But
we
ended
up
defeating
the
bill
overall.
On
the
appropriations
front,
the
good
news
is
that
there
was
an
increase
in
funding
for
transportation.
C
Five
point:
six
billion
dollars
which
helps
our
local
governments.
There
was
a
marginal
increase
in
funding
on
a
per
student
basis
in
public
education
on
the
local
project
issue
front,
pretty
pretty
thin
this
year.
It
was
thin
going
into
this
cycle,
even
though
our
revenues
for
the
state
we're
looking
fairly
good
entering
that
the
quarter
of
the
session,
the
encumbered
recurring
expenses
from
past
commitments
that
were
already
projected
to
gobble
up
most
of
that
and
that
was
prima
and
then
herma.
C
They
had
to
tease
a
lot
of
money
out
for
OMA
and
then
the
parkland
was
another,
almost
half
a
billion
dollars,
so
local
projects
were
not
looking
very
favorable
to
start
with
and
then,
although
our
project
for
boca
grande
neighborhood,
we
did
have
in
the
budget
initially
on
the
house
side,
and
we
can
think
representative,
Ann
Albert
and
a
friend
of
all
of
ours
who
was
chairing
that
Appropriations
Subcommittee,
who
got
us
into
the
budget
for
that,
and
also
our
local
state
representative
mike
grant.
Who
was
very
instrumental
in
that.
C
Unfortunately,
however,
when
that
budget
then
went
up
the
chain
to
the
fourth
floor,
as
they
say,
the
speaker
it,
along
with
most
local
projects,
disappeared
and
those
funds
got
redistributed
in
some
nonlinear
ways.
Let's
say
and
and
so
we
fought
really
hard
to
try
to
get
that
funding
back
in
essentially
the
way
that
the
local
project
funds,
particularly
for
water
projects,
ended
up
being
distributed,
were
more
on
a
larger
community
basis.
C
So
a
lot
of
the
local
projects
for
municipalities
got
collapsed
into
one
or
two
projects
for
an
entire
county
or
for
in
a
regional
entity.
Now,
of
course,
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
supported
all
of
Charlotte
County's
proposals,
and
we
did
fairly
well
on
that
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
septic
two
sewer
for
LGB
nand
I
think
the
speaker
saw
that
as
a
countywide
issue,
and
so
he
could
kind
of
check
the
box
for
everybody
in
Charlotte
with
that
which
is
fine.
C
We
also
were
able
to
get
some
funds
for
the
the
firefighter
training
facility
here
in
Punta
Gorda
1.5
million.
For
that
piece.
Server
water
supply
authority
received
a
million
dollars
for
the
expansion
and
improvement
of
the
aquifer,
storage
and
recovery,
which
helps
everybody
in
this
county
mana
to
Sarasota
and
DeSoto
as
well,
but
as
to
our
funding,
we
don't
have
a
direct
appropriation
for
Boca
Grande.
C
What
we
were
able
to
do,
I
think,
is
leverage
some
good
momentum
on
that
for
the
grant
side
and,
as
you
know,
we
have
two
grants
before
DEP
TMDL
grant
with
a
50/50
match
in
then
one
grant
the
so-called
319
F
319
F
grant
both
of
those
are
in
process
and
representatives
soon
to
be.
Senator
Albritton
has
pledged
that,
in
the
wake
of
the
speaker,
taking
over
funding
from
the
appropriations
side
he's
pledged
to
assist
with
those
grants
on
the
agency
side,
as
I
mentioned
representative
slash
soon
to
be
senator
Albritton
and
representative
grant.
C
Let
me
pause
for
a
moment.
Talk
a
little
bit
about
the
politics
in
our
area.
There's
been
quite
a
bit
of
musical
chairs.
Some
of
you
have
read
a
bit
about
this,
but
congressman
Rooney
has
decided
not
seek
re-election,
and
that,
of
course
has
caused
to
members
of
the
legislature,
one
of
whom,
in
our
delegation,
Greg
Senator,
Greg
Greg
Stube
II,
to
leave
his
Senate
seat
and
run
for
that
also
representative
Julio
Gonzalez,
whose
district
comes
down
into
Englewood,
he's
running
for
that
seat
as
well.
C
So
that's
a
vacant
Senate
seat,
a
vacant
house
seat,
the
likely
successors
to
those
are
on
the
Senate
side
representative
joe
gruder's,
who
is
currently
a
representative
in
the
Sarasota
County
area,
and
he
currently
doesn't
have
major
opposition.
He
will
likely
win
that
seat,
although
and
so,
if
or
when
he
does
or
anybody
else.
Of
course,
we
get
the
new
senator
down
here
to
meet
the
council
and
establish
that
relationship
as
well.
I
think
representative
gruder's
would
be
very
effective
for
our
area,
also
a
little
bit
to
the
east
of
that.
C
As
you
know,
one
of
the
members
of
our
delegation,
senator
Denis
Grimsley,
she's
running
for
statewide
office,
and
so
her
seats
vacant
and
our
good
friend
representative
Allbritton,
is
running
for
that
seat
and
he's
currently
on
a
post
and,
as
you
know,
he
is
a
very
strong
champion
of
Punta
Gorda
and
that
would
be
very,
very
favorable
for
us
on
the
Senate
side
in
the
house.
Side
were
very
well
represented
by
representative
grant.
He
knows
our
area,
he
knows
Punta
Gorda
he's
a
hard-working
loyal.
C
C
Which
is
fine,
but
let
me
pause.
I
wrote
about
the
constitutional
revision.
Commission
and
I'll.
Take
some
questions.
So,
as
most
of
you
know,
Florida
is
unique
in
America
we're
the
only
state
that
has
a
periodic
once
every
twenty
year
process,
essentially
a
mini
constitutional
convinced
where
everything
in
our
Constitution
gets
laid
on
the
table
and
is
up
for
review
for
deletions
for
amendments
and
for
new
proposals.
C
The
constitutional
revision
Commission
is
37
members
appointed
by
the
governor,
the
Speaker
of
the
House
and
the
president
of
the
Senate,
and
they
began
meeting
about
a
year
ago,
April
of
last
year,
and
they
have
gone
around
the
state
twice
now
meeting
in
pretty
much
every
area
of
the
state
within
a
one
to
two
hour
driving
distance
trying
to
get
input
ideas
from
the
public
on
what
should
be
changed
in
our
state
constitution.
They
then
went
back.
They
got
over
1400
submissions
proposals.
Ultimately,
there
were
a
hundred
and
three
actual
filed
amendments
by
CRC
commissioners.
C
That's
now
been
reduced
down
to
37
and
over
the
last
three
days,
they've
gone
back
they've
gone
into
a
floor
session
where
they
are
actually
voting
on
those
to
determine
whether
they
go
on
to
further
committee
stops
it's
down
to
I,
think
26.
Now
that
are
still
alive
and
of
those
26
about
about
half
of
them
have
gotten
a
majority
vote
and
moves
to
what
they
call
a
style
and
drafting
committee
where
they'll
work
on
the
language
it'll
come
back
to
the
CRC
full
CRC
for
a
final
vote,
which
requires
22
of
37.
C
Attending
so
it's
22
out
of
32,
that's
a
pretty
high
burden,
pretty
high
standard.
My
guess,
just
a
guess
would
be
that
the
CRC
will
wrap
up
and
it
has
to
finish
its
work
by
May
by
May.
8Th.
My
guess
is:
is
that
they'll
probably
be
twelve
thirteen
fourteen
proposals
and
then
some
some
of
those
will
be
blocked
or
grouped
together
so
on
the
ballot,
I,
imagine
seven
or
eight
or
nine
actual
proposals.
C
That's
typical
for
constitutional
revision,
Commission's
that
we've
been
doing
since
1968
I
guess
so,
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at
two
more
a
floor
session
as
to
that
39.
It
has
a
it's
it's
it's
made
its
way
along,
but
it
has
been
hobbled
a
fair
amount
on
its
face.
It's
the
type
of
thing
that
plays
well,
it's
easy
to
stand
up
and
say:
kill
the
lawyers
kill
the
lobbyists
and
we
all
we
all,
get
that
including
the
jokes.
C
But
at
the
end
of
the
day,
when
something
like
that
gets
a
full
hearty
debate,
it's
recognized
that
there
is
value
and
people
being
represented.
That
is
hard-working
as
the
city
councilmen
are
and
as
hard-working
as
members
of
the
legislature
are,
there's
only
so
much
that
they
can
do,
and
although
you
could
make
the
case
that
we
don't
need
lawyers
in
the
courthouse,
we
have
a
judge
he's
an
elected
official
he's
there
to
mete
out
justice.
C
All
people
need
to
do
is
really
just
come
there
and
tell
their
story
like
Wapner,
and/or,
Judge,
Judy
and
away
you
go
on
its
face.
That
sounds.
You
know
that
has
a
ring
of
logic
to
it,
but
if
you're,
really
at
the
courthouse,
you
realize
that
the
complexity
of
the
process
and
the
rules
of
procedure
and
the
standards
of
professional
ethics
and
all
of
the
unique
subtleties
of
statutory
law
and
administrative
law
and
case
law
really
require,
or
at
least
are
greatly
facilitated
by
somebody
who
does
that
full-time.
C
So
in
the
legislative
process,
can
you
get
a
member
to
file
a
bill
for
you
or
file
an
appropriation
for
you
and
be
pro
se
beyond
representative?
You
bet
you
can.
Can
you
maybe
even
get
that
bill
passed?
Perhaps,
but
this
year
there
were
over
3,000
bills
filed
only
200
passed.
There
were
probably
upwards
of
15
20
thousand
different
amendments.
All
right.
We
read
every
single
one
of
those
every
bill.
Every
amendment
we
attend
every
committee
meeting
every
floor
session
full-time
all
the
time.
C
Could
you
do
that
on
your
own
sure
you
would,
but
you
would
end
up
spending
more
doing
that
yourself,
probably
just
in
travel
cost,
then
you
spend
on
being
represented.
Moreover,
you'd
have
in
order
to
be
competitive
with
other
proposals
that,
quite
frankly,
you're
competing
with
you
would
have
to
do
that
for
a
period
of
time
to
where
you
have
gained
a
level
of
skill
or
strategic.
C
If
you
will,
that
would
put
you
in
parity
with
what
you'd
have
if
you
hired
somebody
to
do
it
for
you,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
stand
and
make
a
case
for
hiring
lobbyists,
but
I'm
just
telling
you
that's
one.
That's
moving
its
way
through
the
League
of
Cities
is
very
focused
on
it.
It's
still
alive,
but
I
think
the
likelihood
of
it
ultimately
getting
22
votes
on
final.
Four
final
passage
is
not
is
not
great.
C
You
take
some
places
again
in
the
Lower
East
Coast,
where
a
County
delegation
has
20
or
25
members
of
the
legislature,
they're
going
to
overwhelm
the
appropriations
process
and
the
small
communities
will
not
likely
get
heard
as
well,
if
they're
not
represented
with
that,
and
we
could
walk
through
a
myriad
of
bills,
but
I
know
you
have
limited
time
and
many
things
on
your
agenda.
Let
me
just
take
some
questions.
Okay,.
A
So
you
spoke
about
some
of
those
bills
that
seem
to
be
coming
back
every
year
with
some
of
the
legislators
leaving
their
post.
Well,
they
still
make
it
back
in
some
form
or
fashion
they
get
brought
back
because
of
one
side
or
the
other
is
finds
a
new
sponsor,
like
the
vacation
rental,
for
instance,
with
I
mean
that's
been
coming
back
a
couple
years
now,
all
right,
I.
C
C
So
the
short
answer
is
yes,
that
one
will
come
back,
some
of
the
other
ones
that
are
kind
of
one
offs,
the
tree-trimming,
the
right,
the
preemption
of
regulation
for
economic
development
councils
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
I
think
those
are
going
to
fade
away
those
work
but
kind
of
more
parochial
to
a
few,
a
handful
of
members
who
are
no
longer
going
to
be
there.
C
Moreover,
the
champions
for
our
side
on
most
of
those
bills
are
still
in
the
legislature.
They
are
still
there
and
their
seniority
will
be
even
greater
and
those
who
are
promoting
those
bills.
Aren't
there
anymore,
so
I
think
it's
gonna.
It's
getting
better.
Moreover,
just
I'm
gonna,
say
publicly
is
that
a
lot
of
those
bills
are
driven
by
this
election
cycle,
they're,
not
about
whether
the
bill
passes
or
not
they're
about
whether
you
can
stand
up
in
front
of
a
group
of
wrote,
Aryans
or
what
come
on
or
whatever.
C
C
C
We'll
get
a
another
debate
in
a
full
floor.
Vote
of
twenty
to
each
of
them
that
receive
22.
Affirmative
votes
then
go
to
the
Secretary
of
State
they
get
put
on
and
then,
of
course,
to
the
Supervisor
of
Elections.
They
get
put
on
the
ballot
and
then
for
any
of
those
proposals
to
pass.
It
requires
an
affirmative
vote
of
60%
of
all
people
voting.
C
Interestingly,
one
of
the
one
of
the
debates
yesterday
was
on
a
proposal
by
a
commissioner
named
Belinda
Kaiser
who,
from
the
Stewart
area
or
yes,
who
were
around
Stewart
and
her
proposal
was
to
make
that
60
percent
of
all
of
those
voting
on
that
proposal,
which
would
have
been
an
even
higher
standard,
so
I
mean
you
can
kind
of
do
you
can
kind
of
do
the
math.
A
lot
of
people
choose
to
not
vote,
not
even
vote
on
a
particular
proposal,
so
that
would
be
an
under
vote
under
her
proposal.
C
C
E
F
E
What
we
have
said
many
many
times
is
this
continuing
attack
on
Home
Rule
and
we
use
the
community.
You
have
been
a
great
voice
for
us
for
all
of
us.
You
have
helped
us
get
funding
for
our
water
treatment
plant
to
help
get
that
going.
So
the
things
that
you've
been
able
to
do
for
us
have
been
a
tremendous
you've,
really
navigated
that
water
and
help
help
navigate
the
political
structure
of
the
of
the
state
and
help
put
something
together.
That
would
have
been
impossible
impossible
for
us
to
have
done
and
so
I
think.
E
C
The
compliments
and
I
appreciate
the
the
recognition
of
the
work
that
we
do
together
as
a
team
and
not
to
beat
a
dead
horse
on
something
like
this
proposal
39.
But
you
know
I
remember
when
I
was
a
member
of
the
legislature
and
of
course,
when
you're,
an
elected
official,
you
get
beat
up
all
the
time
for
having
relationships
with
with
lobbyists.
And
oh
my
gosh
you're
over
influenced
by
lobbyists.
I'll
tell
you
the
way
that
I
honestly
looked
at
it
is
that
they
were
an
asset
to
me.
C
They
were
an
asset
in
the
sense
that
it
was
a
single
point
of
contact
that
I
could
reach
out
and
grab
and
get
information
on
for
an
entire
community
which
was
far
more
efficient,
and
then
my
staff
or
me
being
able
to
call
six
or
seven
different
people
and
I.
Think
similarly,
I
see
a
couple
of
my
former
colleagues
and
the
back
members
of
the
bar
and
Kevin
your
esteemed
counsel.
Mr.
C
Levin,
most
judges
would
tell
you
that
they
would
far
prefer
that
a
party
in
a
law
suit
be
represented
by
an
attorney
rather
than
being
pro
se,
because
it
is
a
simplification
of
the
process.
It's
much
more
efficient.
When
I
was
an
elected
legislature,
I
encouraged
people
to
to
have
somebody
represent
them.
Somebody
who
is
there
all
day
every
day
that,
if
I
needed
to
get
it,
ask
a
question
or
if
I
needed
something
done
to
help
promote
their
issue.
C
I
could
get
a
hold
of
that
person
in
person
in
10
or
15
minutes,
rather
than
then
being
358
miles
away.
So
it
is
true
that
it
really
does
make
a
difference,
and
it's
not
just
about
getting
money.
The
state
of
Florida
has
an
87
billion
dollar
budget
in
and
that
money
is
extracted
from
working
Floridians
single
moms,
raising
two
kids
working,
two
jobs,
that's
precious.
C
C
Are
there
times
when
you
know
one
lobbyist
over
another
is
perhaps
more
influential
I'm
sure
sure
that's
the
case,
but
that's
the
case
in
the
court
house
there
are
trial
lawyers
who
win
more
than
others,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
local
governments
shouldn't
be
represented
at
the
courthouse
when
they
need
a
decision
from
a
judge.
So
I
appreciate
you
recognizing
that
I
think
we're
going
to
be
okay
on
39,
it's
an
honor
for
us
to
represent
city
of
Punta
Gorda.
We
love
what
we
do.
C
A
You
know
just
Swift
mud
alone
was
challenging
for
us,
so
we're
not
even
talking
about
the
legislature.
You
know
we're
talking
down
here,
Swift
mud,
so
you
know
you
really
helped
us
out
just
navigating
that
process
alone.
So
it's
not
just
you
know
one
size
fits
all
which
I'm
you
know.
We
say
that
all
the
time
so
yes
I,
say
the
same
thing.
We
did
seven
miles
in
that
day
and
I
couldn't
walk
like
five
days
after
that.
But
thank
you
for
the
tour.
A
C
Thank
you
thanks
for
taking
the
time
to
come
up
there,
one
quick
plug
I
hope
you
all
know
what
a
star
your
mayor
is
within
the
League
of
Cities.
Her
leadership
within
that
or
first
of
all,
that
organization
serves
you
well,
and
it's
a
wonderful
asset
and
tool
for
us
helps
us
double
our
multiple.
It's
a
force
multiplier
for
us
and
hopefully,
by
your
membership
in
there
and
you
being
represented
in
us
being
on
their
lobbying
team,
were
a
force
multiplier
for
them,
but
you
have
a
third
force
multiplier,
and
that
is
your
mayor.
C
Who
takes
the
time
to
be
an
active
officer
and
participant
in
that
and
I
wish.
Each
of
you
could
see
her
when
she's
in
those
meetings
with
all
those
senators
and
House
members,
she's
really
got
her
act
down
well,
and
she
is
perfectly
tailored
for
that
culture
and
environment
and
you're
served
well
for
that.
One
last
comment:
I'm
gonna,
make
is
that
at
some
point
in
the
future
it
would
be
helpful
to
us
to
schedule
some
meetings,
different
types
of
meetings
with
other
particular
audience,
members
with
your
city
manager.
A
G
A
H
Hi,
I'm
janet
water,
miner
I
live
at
eighteen.
Ninety
Deborah
drive
unit
30
and
you
have
a
donations
committee
that
it
asks
for
someone
from
with
an
art
background
and
as
the
executive
director
of
the
Visual
Arts
Center.
We
want
to
give
back
to
the
city
and
we
thought
we
should
put
my
name
in
for
consideration
if
it
makes
sense
for
you.
So
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
introduce
myself
thank.
A
You
anybody
else
committee
member
nominee
that
would
like
to
introduce
themselves.
Okay,
seeing
none
I
just
want
to
go
over
a
couple
of
things.
We
have
one
two
public
hearings
and
then
we
have
four
quasi-judicial
public
hearings
and
then
we
have
a
couple
of
second
readings
and
then
the
consent
agenda,
and
then
we
move
into
regular
agenda.
So
it's
gonna
be
each
one
of
these
public
hearings
and
quasi-judicial
are
their
own
separate
public
hearings.
So
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
procedural
stuff
going
on.
A
J
Good
morning,
Lisa
Hannon
zoning
official.
This
topic
was
discussed
at
the
January
3rd
City
Council
meeting
February
22nd,
historic
preservation,
Advisory
Board
and
the
February
26
Planning
Commission
meeting,
and
it
provides
general
naming
for
the
historic
overlay
district
just
to
bring
the
two
districts
together.
Planning
Commission
found
that
renaming
the
renaming
amendment
to
be
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
When
recommended
approval
with
the
final
name
selection
to
be
made
by
City
Council,
we
did
have
a
representative
of
the
historic
district
homeowners
association,
bring
in
a
recommendation
of
that
the
district
be
named.
J
A
I
Well
she's
coming
up,
but
might
be
helpful.
The
title
of
this
ordinance
did
not
identify
the
name
that
the
existing
ordinance
is
proposed
to
be
amended
to
to
give
flexibility
to
the
City
Council.
Should
they
choose
to
come
up
with
a
different
name,
but
for
the
record
as
drafted,
the
proposal
is
to
change
it
from
Tribute
woods,
historic
overlay,
district
to
local,
historic
overlay,
district.
F
Are
this
city
we
would
also
like
to
have,
instead
of
the
overlay
being
called
East,
which
is
for
us
just
the
stigma
so
that
we
can
continue
with
our
history.
Let
it
reflect
that
Bethel
and
also
st.
mark
churches
were
basically
the
beginning,
are
just
the
foundation
of
that
community.
So
the
overlay,
my
understanding,
is
that
it
would
be
used
for
the
area
here,
just
the
city,
but
that
our
continued
historic
district,
no
other
name
from
Cooper
Street,
all
the
way
back
to
41.
Just
the
significance
of
the
african-americans.
F
It's
we
are
the
handprint,
we're
the
feet
and
also
the
heart
of
Punta
Gorda
we've
contributed
much
and
as
we
move
forward
in
the
branding
is
a
perfect
time.
So
we
can
show
not
only
the
brother,
the
Bailey
men,
but
also
our
Libyans,
the
fact
that
we've
had
one
Olympian
who
never
noted
sharpy
town
just
to
tell
the
history.
We
don't
want
to
become
invisible
as
we
move
forward,
because
we
were
vital
to
the
beginning.
Thank
you.
A
E
I
certainly
respect
the
wishes
of
the
community,
the
homeowners
association
and
and
value
the
history
of
kind
of
Gorn
up
period.
I
mean
it's
I've,
been
very
active
in
in
preserving
the
history
of
Punta
Gorda
myself.
So
what
question,
in
my
mind,
is
if,
if
this
is
just
for
code
purposes,
and
really
all
we're
trying
to
do
is
refer
to
areas
of
the
community,
even
the
no
matter
which
section
or
whatever
do
we
need
names,
or
should
it
be
just
sewn
1
2
&
3
I
mean
do
we
need
to
call
city
center?
E
A
G
Kind
of
agree
with
you
an
answer
yet
I
think
that
it's
a
little
bit
confusing
I
mean
we're.
If
we're
talking
about
removing
the
name
of
trivia
woods
and
then
we're
gonna
put
in
something
that's
st.
mark,
Bethel
overlay,
district
I
think
is
very
confusing
to
people
I'm
happy
that
everybody
is
uniting
together
and
you
have
a
unified
voice
for
the
historic
district.
I
think
it's
wonderful
and
I
think
it's
very
inclusive
and
it
makes
people
feel
like
they
belong.
That's
what
we
that's!
G
What
the
whole
goal
of
this
is
and
I
hate
to
separate
it
by
district.
By
calling
it's,
you
know,
special
districts,
overlay
districts,
I
understand.
What's
trying
to
be
accomplished,
I
just
wish
there
was
a
better
way
to
describe
it,
so
it
it
doesn't.
It
still
segments
it
and
I.
Don't
like
that.
That's
stereotype.
H
D
The
reason-
and
this
is
a
man
again
I-
agree
with
you,
but
the
way
they
have
it
is
that
the
actual
building
code
is
different
in
the
three
areas,
and
so
that's
why
they
have
to
denote
it
that
way,
and
just
in
discussion
amongst
members
just
for
code
purposes,
why
Bethel
st.
mark
was
thought
of,
as
the
name
is
because
Bethel
had
was
the
very
first
religious
service
in
the
city
itself,
where
all
the
members
of
community
came
together
and
then
his
wife
was
not
the
same
religion.
So
the
st.
D
mark
was
found
that
way.
But
this
is
just
for
pretty
much
generic
code
purposes,
but
the
three
districts
is
something
that
that
exists
because
from
a
standpoint
of
code
there
are
three
different:
the
building
code
designations
like
there's
a
more
stringent
over
here
little
Lisp
engine
over
here
and
over
here.
D
A
K
From
a
coding
standpoint,
it
doesn't
need
a
name,
however.
I
think
that
communities,
even
when
they're
United
also
have
identities
and
from
a
historic
perspective
and
from
a
cultural
perspective,
perspective
or
a
geographical
perspective,
any
one
of
a
number
of
criteria
can
lend
to
the
name
of
what
a
particular
area
community
is
within
a
greater
community.
If
you
go
to
many
cities,
whether
it's
Chicago,
my
hometown,
the
neighborhoods
all
have
their
separate
names.
K
It's
not
Chicago,
there's
a
Lakeview,
there's
pills
and
they're,
even
named
after
companies
Pullman
when
they
used,
because
that
was
the
area
that
they
used
to
make
the
Pullman
cars.
If
you
go
into
New
Orleans,
their
parishes
that
have
names
and
those
names
maybe
have
a
religious
overtone
there,
maybe
because
of
a
cultural
aspect,
and
maybe
because
of
a
geographic
extra
and
even
within
Punta
Gorda.
We
have
PGI
and
then
within
PGI.
We
have
things
like
the
bird
section
now.
K
They're,
not
official
names
I
understand
that,
but
they
are
names
that
are
readily
and
overtly
acceptable
to
describe
the
various
fish
Phil's.
Another
good
example.
Everybody
knows
we're
fish
bill
is
okay.
People
don't
live
at
fish,
though
they
stay
at
fish
bill,
but
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
have
a
problem
of
having
a
localized
neighborhood
that
has
a
slightly
different
flavor
than
the
rest
of
the
historic
district
having
its
own
identity.
I.
Think
that
should
be
encouraged.
K
A
Guess
where
I'm
at
is
where
we
started
in
the
first
place
that
we
just
wanted
to
be
able
to
put
up
the
signs
that
say
historic
district.
So
if
we
could
somehow
maybe
do
interpretive
signage
to
acknowledge
the
st.
mark,
Bethel
somehow
and
leave
that
out,
because
I
just
feel
like
in
the
future,
we
may
be
back
in
the
same
situation.
We're
in
right
now.
E
Well,
that
question
came
to
my
mind.
You
know
it
was
11
years
ago,
one
of
the
person,
one
of
the
people
who
recommended
this,
that
we
change
it
from
Tribute
Woods
was
recommending
that
we
change
it
to
GPO
woods.
So
it's
what
will
happen
ten
years
from
now
and
whether
it
be
a
another
name
that
comes
will.
D
E
D
But
simply
for
cold
purposes.
This
is
simply
to
replace
the
word
Easter
local,
there's
no
deeper
than
that.
This
is.
This
is
not
anything
deeper
than
simply
on
a
piece
of
paper
that
says
what
it
is,
there's
there's
no
branding
outside
they
start
district
is
the
brand.
That
is
the
area.
This
is
nothing
more
than
changing
the
name
from
East,
because
people
didn't
like
to
make
nice
in
terms
of
the
code.
That's
all
this
is
there's.
No,
no
more
than
that
isn't
is
no
public
press.
There's
no
public
presentation
about
those
named
work.
D
A
D
A
D
A
K
I
And
this
is
the
first
reading
of
an
ordinance
which
I'll
read
by
title:
only
norden's
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
Florida,
amending
chapter
6
boats,
docks
and
waterways,
article
1
in
general,
section
6,
24,
use
of
boat
ramps,
Punta
Gorda
code
regulations
relating
to
the
use
of
public
boat
ramps
and
to
establish
regulations
for
the
use
of
public
day
docks
within
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
providing
for
complicated
severability
and
providing
an
effective
date.
Thank.
L
You
good
morning
for
the
record,
mikhail
Finkle
paralegal.
This
proposed
ordinance
came
out
of
cancels
previous
discussion
regarding
Gilchrist
landing
in
the
storage
of
non
motorized
and
motorized
vehicles
and
the
issues
in
the
park
between
your
discussion
and
the
drafting
of
this
ordinance.
We
were
also
notified
by
police
department
marine
patrol
that
there
were
some
issues
at
the
lashley
day
dock,
so
these
new
regulations
would
apply
to
both
areas
and
they
address
just
the
storage
and
overnight
parking
vessel.
L
L
G
A
M
So
I
ended
up
out
in
the
harbor
and
using
the
dinghy
docks
if
we
want
to
be
a
community
that
has
that
is
a
destination
for
cruisers
and
other
boaters
around
the
area
down
in
Bird
storm
whatever
there
has
to
be
a
safe
and
effective
way
to
get
to
shore
and
and
back
to
their
boats.
So
as
far
as
this
ordinance
goes,
I
think
that
the
issues
that
it
was
addressing
at
the
time
were
we
had.
They
had
real
concerns
and
I.
M
M
If
you
look
at
the
dingy
docks
now,
there's
no
more
storage
on
top
of
the
daleks
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
this
might
not
be
a
good
time
to
pause
this
particular
ordinance
and
and
wait
until
there
are
alternative
resources
for
boaters
who
can't
I,
try
to
get
a
slip
at
fisherman's
village
this
month
and
and
there's
there's
nothing
there.
Now
you
can't.
Apparently
this
blog
will
also
apply
to
lashley.
M
So
I
just
worry
that,
and
this
ordinance
is
written,
would
only
affect
me
very
minimally
I'm,
usually
on
the
dock
and
then
and
back
off
within
that
time
frame,
but
every
once
in
a
while.
You
know
if
there's
a
5:30
departure
out
of
Punta
Gorda
I
like
to
be
on
the
dock
before
4:00,
so
that
I'm
sure,
if
I
have
any
problems
with
car
or
whatever
that
I'm
there
on
time
and
same
on
the
back
side
of
the
clock.
M
You
know
if
there's
a
mechanical
or
weather
delay
getting
back
in
so
there's
a
very
small
time
where
that,
where
that
window
would
affect
me,
but
it,
but
it
would
so
I
just
just
sum
up.
It
would
be
I
think
it'd
be
good
time
to
to
pause
on
that
and
find
and
look
into
these
alternative
solutions
so
that
people
like
me
have
alternatives.
M
A
N
My
name
is
Warren
James
I'm,
a
full-time
Cruiser
live
aboard,
I
ended
up
north
of
Gilchrist
and
west
of
41.
The
same
way
Joe
did
no
availability
mast
height
too
high
to
get
to
the
mooring
field
wide.
My
first
choice:
I
would
prefer
a
mooring
field
anyway,
I'm
a
retired
jeweler
I'm,
a
full-time
resident
of
Punta
Gorda,
my
wife,
Diane
and
I
also
maintain
a
full-time
year-round
residence
on
land
district.
N
My
comments
well,
this
is
just
for
Gilchrist
and
lastly,
because
fisherman's
village
is
no
longer
offering
services
to
us.
I
have
a
couple
of
suggestions.
One
is
first
I
agree
with
your
proposal.
I
think
that,
unfortunately,
any
ordinance
has
to
be
abuse.
Proof
people
are
going
to
abuse
it.
Some
people
will,
if
they
can't
and
that's
sad,
but
that
happens
and
that's
how
the
Diggy
dog
got
the
way
it
was
to
begin
with
so
I
agree
with
it.
N
The
only
and
I'd
also
appreciate
the
hours
mentioned
that
give
boaters
an
opportunity
to
enjoy
the
nightlife
in
Punta
Gorda.
That
said,
just
a
couple
of
issues
that
weren't
addressed
Jo
mentioned
it
and
for
those
at
work
and
I,
don't
unretire,
but
those
that
do
work
and
those
that
may
have
medical
issues
which
occasionally
I,
do
have
and
have
to
stay
overnight,
a
possible
permit
from
the
city
to
allow
overnight
dockage
for
temporarily
either
one
night
yeah.