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A
Good
morning
it
is
9:00
a.m.
welcome
to
the
August
23rd
2017
City
Council
meeting.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
Gary
wine
is
excused,
but
all
other
council
members
and
officials
are
present.
Please
stand
for
the
invocation
of
Pledge
of
Allegiance
and
silence
your
devices
if
you
have
not
already
done
so.
Thank
you.
Our.
B
Father
above
creator
of
the
universe,
we
ask
that
you
bless
this
assembly
and
its
work
and
those
who
appear
before
us
provide
information
vital
to
all
our
citizens.
We
also
asked
by
blessings
on
those
honored
today
with
proclamations
and
presentations,
help
us
to
be
to
think
to
act
on
body
fright
because
it
is
right,
make
us
truthful,
honest
and
honorable,
in
all
things,
make
us
intellectually
honest
for
the
sake
of
right
and
honor
and
without
thought
over
war
to
ourselves
give
us
the
ability
to
be
charitable.
B
A
Thank
you,
John
hope,
you're,
all
settling
into
your
new
seats
out
there.
It
looks
it
looks
good
from
up
here.
I
have
to
tell
you,
the
room
is
much
brighter
and
I
feel
like
the
audience
is
up
a
little
bit
higher,
which
was
a
problem
before
for
eyesight
with
the
council.
So
welcome
to
our
new
set
up.
We
have
a
couple
of
very
special
presentations,
the
first
of
which
I
will
present
the
Institute
for
elected
municipal
official
certificate
of
completion
to
councilmember
Matthews.
D
D
C
Only
been
here
younger
and
years
of
service
with
the
city
you've
only
been
here
25
years,
our
finance
director
Dave
Drury
25
years
now
finance
there
in
the
background,
but
without
a
solid
finance
department,
finance
procurement,
billing
and
collection,
she
doesn't
run
city
can't
run
without
them,
and
we've
had
the
certificate
of
conformance
for
all
of
those
years.
We've
had
the
conformance
with
budgeting
for
I.
Don't
know
how
many
years
now,
maybe
eleven
ten
of
us
but
finances
are
in
as
you
go
through.
C
C
D
F
G
The
same
thing
to
howard
when
we
met
this
week,
we
went
to
this
conference
over
the
weekend
and
I
find
it
amazing
that
some
of
the
other
cities
in
our
state
even
are
open
for
business,
because
our
city
runs
seamlessly
and
at
the
helm,
of
course,
howard,
but
all
of
the
department
heads
and
everyone
that
works
before
the
city.
It's
just
an
incredible
bunch
of
people,
they're,
cooperative,
they're,
supportive,
they're,
they're,
helpful,
they're
friendly,
and
they
always
talk
to
you
with
a
smile,
and
this
is
this
is
one
incredible
city
that
we
live
in.
C
C
C
So
while
we
honor
Dave
jury
and
Bobby
leg,
Marybeth
leg
and
eventually
the
city's
payroll
coordinator-
and
if
you
asked
our
employees
she's
number
one,
the
second
interesting
fact
about
Bobby
is
thank
God.
He
doesn't
have
a
flowered
shirt
on
today,
because
when
he
puts
a
flowered
shirt
on
on
a
Friday,
we
have
a
major
sewer
line,
break.
H
What
do
you
think,
but
it
does
seem
like
every
time,
Bobby
where's,
that
Hawaiian
shirt.
We
do
have
some
some
other
issues,
I
like
to
think
of
Bobby
leg
as
some
of
our
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
employee
royalty,
and
he
truly
truly
is
what
you
folks
may
not
know
is
Bobby's
father
worked
for
the
city
for
30
years
also,
and
his
dad
was
wastewater
treatment,
plant
operator,
a
police
chief,
the
right
away,
supervisor,
police
officer,
canal
maintenance,
crane
operator,
and
finally,
the
public
works
engineer.
H
So
Bobby
is
truly
in
a
royal
class
of
dedicated
city
employees.
I
had
Bobby's
son
working
for
me
for
a
very
short
time
and,
unfortunately,
being
a
young
man
with
a
family.
He
needed
to
go
where
he
could
make
more
money.
Maybe
he'll
migrate
back
at
some
point.
I'd
love
to
see
that.
But
in
addition
to
that
Bobby's
grandfather,
bill
McGee
was
a
supervisor
of
a
wastewater
collections.
H
His
uncle
the
Roy
HAP
tuck,
was
supervisor
of
wastewater
collections
and
after
building
after
bill
Maggie
and
then
bill
birnes
who's,
one
of
our
chief
operator,
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
is
related
to
Bobby
as
well.
We've
got,
we've
got
some
great
some
great
employees
from
that
family
line.
Currently
Bobby
is,
as
the
city
manager
said,
our
wastewater
collections
division
supervisor.
H
Whenever
that
happens,
Bobby's
one
of
those
kind
of
fortunate
people
that
I've
known
three
or
four
in
my
life
that
know
how
to
do
everything
jump
in
and
do
everything
and
you
just
when
they
walk
in
a
room,
everything's,
fine
and
when
I
see
Bobby
or
his
guys
are
Kim
and
his
guys
they
walk
in
the
room.
Everything
is
going
to
be
okay
in
this.
H
E
A
I
Morning,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
my
name
is
Susheela
cherian
and
I'm,
applying
for
the
vacancy
in
the
Historic
Preservation
Advisory
Board,
as
an
alternate
I've
lived
in
this
community
in
Punta
Gorda
for
33
years,
and
have
been
very
involved
in
this
community
I'm,
a
history,
buff
and
I'm
amazed
at
the
history
that
this
community
has
in
this
town
and
that's
why
I'm
interested?
Thank
you
thank.
J
I'm
gone
kid:
will
a
climbing
commission
nominee
I've
been
here
for
20
over
20
years,
I've
been
professional,
I
introduced
myself
last
month,
so
I
won't
go
through
all
of
it
again,
but
just
basically
I've
been
an
engineer
for
over
50
years,
I've
been
a
professional
engineer
for
over
37
I've,
been
involved
in
many
committees
and
groups
here
within
the
community
for
the
20
years,
and
so
I
hope
that
you'll
consider
me
for
the
position.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
A
Ok,
we
will
call
this
er
a
meeting
to
order.
Let
the
record
reflect
that
Gary
wine
is
excused,
but
all
other
officials
and
members
are
present
the
first
item
of
business
is:
we
have
citizens
comments
on
CRA
agenda
items.
So
if
you
would
like
to
speak
on
approval
of
the
minutes,
the
CRA
project
status,
report
of
August
2017
or
the
regulations
for
the
Vietnam
Memorial,
Wall,
Area
and
Veterans
Park
now
would
be
the
time
you'd
like
to
speak
on
any
one
of
those
items.
Now
would
be
the
time
okay,
seeing
none.
K
A
C
C
C
A
C
C
If
you've
been
by
Gophers
park,
lately
you'll
see
the
new
trees
that
have
been
planted
just
in
the
last
few
days,
more
trees
were
planted
yesterday,
but
that's
how
it
now
looks
with
the
diagonal
parking
along
Retta
and
the
new
palm
trees.
The
if
you've
been
by
there
recently
you'll,
see
all
the
bricklaying
being
done
at
the
entrance
on
Harvey
Street
and
the
roundabout.
A
lot
of
brick
is
getting
laid.
So
that's
if
they're
working
their
way
around
the
roundabout.
C
C
F
F
C
C
And
unfortunately,
the
dream
salon
and
spa
build-out
that
work
has
stopped
the
the
owner
had
a
conflict
with
the
contractor
that
they
hired.
They
fired
the
contractor
they're
in
dispute,
whether
they
I
don't
know.
If
they're
going
to
go
in
front
of
the
building
board
or
not,
they
do
have
a
new
contractor.
They
need
to
work
out
their
financials
to
see
if
they
can
get
the
contractor
back
on
site.
So
now
we
have
basically
a
3/4
build-out.
C
C
We're
still
waiting
for
the
stormwater
permit,
we
did
have
a
stormwater
permit
way
back
when
we
did
Lashley
Park
in
2006
or
7.
We've
contacted
the
DEP
to
see
if
they
could
resurrect
it.
They
have
not
been
able
to
find
it.
We
do
not
have
it
DEP
has
it
if
nobody
can
find
it.
It
means
that
a
new
stormwater
permit
has
to
be
applied
for
so
because,
even
if
we
did
have
a
stormwater
permit,
we're
too
late
to
get
the
work
done
this
year
with
the
events
coming
up,
we'll
have
to
wait
till
next
year.
C
M
N
Good
morning,
Mikael
Cinco
for
the
record
here
you
can
see
the
committee's
proposed
regulations.
Most
of
them
are
very
similar
to
our
other
parks.
We
just
want
them
codified
into
an
ordinance
that
we
can
have
signage
and
have
some
enforcement
there.
There
have
been
a
couple
instances
with
pets
and
down
there.
G
Any
consideration
been
given
to
maybe
doing
something
with
the
sidewalk
to
differentiate
it
from
the
rest
of
the
park,
so
that
people
know
where
the
respectful
area
should
be
located
is
there
is
there
anything
been
done
to
that
effect,
where
they
maybe
change
the
color
of
the
sidewalk
or
defined
where
it
starts
and
finishes
I'm
just
curious
as
if
there
was
any
consideration
given
to
that.
So
we
could
maybe
stop
some
of
the
you
know
the
people
going
through
there
as
it
shouldn't
be,
like
bicycles
and
skateboards,
and
that
sort
of
thing
sure.
N
M
M
M
Work
with
the
lowest
honor
in
County
and
she
has
appointed
a
fellow
whose
name
I
forget
right
now
to
be
in
charge
of
that.
So
far,
people
are
contacting
me
personally
and
our
first
reunion
will
be
the
27th
of
September
and
I'm
going
to
ask
Howard
and
Rachel
if
they
would
show
up
and
welcome
these
folks.
They
have
rented
Tim
condos
in
fish
meal
fish.
You
can
see
it's
frightening,
the
other
one
that
we
have
booked
again.
They
contacted
me
our
next
month
and
they
have
booked
ten
rooms
in
four
points.
M
Chambers
of
commerce,
a
bunch
of
military
publications
that
they
should
look
into
advertising,
especially
for
Vietnam
reunions
and,
first,
the
other
things
that
people
can
do
well.
If
you're
like
like
fishing
and
tours,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
and
I
think
I
can
go
over
real
big.
Like
say
we
got
a
shark.
A
O
Definitely
support
having
restrictions
like
this,
but
I
would
like
to
clear
the
air
in
the
last
election
season.
There
was
real
controversy
about
using
the
gazebo
and
many
of
us
were
there
and
I
knowed
it
was
there.
I
would
like
to
clear
the
air
it's
outside
of
this
restricted
area.
The
gazebo
is
and
just
to
protect
the
city.
O
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
that
that
gazebo
is
outside
of
the
restricted
area
and
that
if
we
cuz
we're
good,
we've
got
another
election
season
coming
up
and
I
know
that
people
will
probably
want
to
be
in
that
particular
position
again.
So
I
just
want
to
bring
it
up.
Thank
you,
as.
K
As
you
know,
Jane
and
I
represent
the
county
and
what
I
saw
these
I
called
the
county
commissioners
and
estimate
they
had
any
objection
or
had
heard
about
these
restrictions
and
the
chairman
of
the
board
had
not,
but
he
said
he
would
look
into
it
and
he
has
not
contacted
me.
So
I
said
assume
that
the
county
has
no
problem
with
it
either.
So
I,
don't
thank
you.
I.
F
Had
a
resident
contact
me
in
regard
to
the
maintenance
of
the
wall,
and
it
was
in
regard
to
finding
flags
or
left
there
that
were
becoming
discolored
or
other
kinds
of
you
know
cigarette
butts
or
and
was
concerned
about
just
making
sure,
and
this
person
said
that,
then
they
go
there
regularly
and
they
pick
up
things
so
I
asked.
If
I
would
please
raise
the
issue
at
a
council
meeting,
so
I
think
this
is
an
appropriate
time
to
just
I
know
that
it's
not
part
of
the
ordinance.
A
I
think,
along
the
line
with
the
place,
the
placement
of
the
signage,
instead
of
maybe
doing
something
on
the
sidewalk
having
a
depiction
of
this
restricted
area,
possibly
on
the
sign.
This
is
you
know
stating
this
is
a
restricted
area,
so,
instead
of
having
to
do
something
physically
on
the
ground
have
a
some
kind
of
diagram
similar.
As
this
I
know,
our
urban
design
staff
can
come
up
with
something
really
really
nice
to
put
on
the
sign,
so
that
the
people
are
aware
that
that
is
the
restricted
area.
Okay,.
N
M
M
M
A
C
N
D
A
N
A
K
Be
unable
to
attend
the
September
meeting,
Oh
be
on
a
visit
to
Cincinnati,
and
that
leads
me
into
what
some
people
already
may
know.
My
family
is
leaving
Florida
in
2018
for
a
permanent
residency
back
in
Cincinnati,
and
my
term
here
is
up
November.
The
17th
and
I
will
not
seek
reappointment
so
that
will
leave
a
County,
Commission
appointment
available
to
the
county,
and
my
last
meeting
will
be
the
November
meeting
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
serving.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
P
And
Joan
has
indicated
that
her
presentation
on
the
next
two
items
will
be
a
combined
presentation.
So
I'll
read
the
two
resolutions
by
title
only
at
this
time
and
then
her
presentation
will
address
both
resolutions,
which
will
need
to
be
voted
on
separately.
So
first
is
a
resolution
of
the
City
Council
of
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda
Florida,
approving
a
substantial
amendment
to
the
fiscal
year,
2015
Community
Development
Block
Grant
action
plan
as
amended,
providing
an
effective
date.
P
Q
Morning
for
the
record,
John
LeBeau
interim
urban
design
manager
in
April
of
2013
council
did
decide
not
to
participate
in
the
Community
Development
Block
Grant
program
and
in
preparation
to
close
out
all
the
open
projects
of
those
programs.
Staff
was
able
to
find
there
were
additional
monies
that
were
left
in
the
program
years
of
the
action
plans
that
were
left
behind
due
to
delays
or
in
activities
of
the
previous
programs.
Q
So
in
the
2015
action
plan
there
was
forty
six
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
dollars
available
and
in
the
2016
action
plan
there
was
forty
four
thousand
dollars
available
for
a
total
of
90
thousand
seven
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Staff
is
proposing
that
we
utilize
these
funds
to
address
some
of
the
missing
connections
in
the
Trib.
You
woods,
neighborhood
in
the
sidewalk
gaps
staff
has
gone
out
identified
those
areas
that
would
be
able
to
be
done
in-house
by
our
staff,
and
these
are
the
areas
that
we
would
like
to
complete.
Q
A
Just
for
the
audience
and
for
anybody
following
this,
we
still
are
completing
the
projects
that
we
formerly
had
in
CDBG.
We
just
covered
them
under
different
financing
sources
covered
like
the
Fresh
Market.
We
went
outside
and
use
CRA
funds
and
what
was
the
other
project?
The
Blanchard
says
Andrews
building
right,
so
the
projects
got
completed
just
outside
of
CDBG,
so
we
could
relax
some
of
the
federal
renovation.
A
A
D
A
A
P
D
R
P
You,
as
you
can
tell
them
a
bit
under
the
weather,
so
I'll
struggle
through
this,
please
bear
with
me
video
6
s.
17
is
a
request
for
a
variance
by
Edward
McDonald
agent
for
Jones
Road,
LLC
property
owner
pursuant
to
chapter
26,
section
16,
point
10,
pond
water
code
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
new
grocery
store,
have
street
yard
setback
of
one
six
five
point:
four
feet
from
the
north
tillage:
loop,
road,
right-of-way
and
one
forty
point,
two
four
to
four
feet
from
the
Indian
Springs
Road
right
away.
P
Point
15
linear
feet
instead
of
216
point
41
linear
feet,
which
is
the
required
70%
of
Street
frontage
build-out,
as
required
by
chapter
26,
section
3
in
our
article
3
section
3.10
g8
undergo
to
code
and
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
new
grocery
store.
That
does
not
address
either
the
public
right-of-way
at
the
pedestrian
scale
and
does
not
provide
a
private
street
internal
to
the
site
for
the
proposed
building,
as
is
required
by
chapter
26.
P
Only
instead
of
a
combination,
two
of
the
following
one
pedestrian
plazas,
two
landscaping:
three
architectural
treatments,
including
but
not
limited
to
it,
an
arcade
or
colonnade,
as
is
required
by
chapter
26.
Article
7
section
7
point
4
e
7c
undergo
to
code
and
to
allow
parking
on
aisles
30
feet
in
width
instead
of
the
maximum
24
feet
in
width,
as
required
by
chapter
26.
Article
10,
section,
10,
point:
thirteen
ten
point:
three:
eight
seven
Punta
Gorda
code-
and
this
is
on
property
known
as
two
six:
two
seven
nine
Jones
Luke
Road
Punta
Gorda
Florida.
S
A
D
S
I'd
like
to
enter
my
staff
report
into
the
record
by
reference
I
will
give
a
narrative
conclusions
and
the
staff
recommendation.
This
property
is
not
the
prototypical
highway
commercial
parcel
and,
during
the
original
annexation
of
the
loop
in
2014
staff,
discussed
with
the
developer
of
the
entire
loop
properties.
The
option
to
create
a
new
zoning
district
as
the
time
necessary
to
create
the
to
amend
the
land
development
regulations
to
add
a
new
zoning
classification
was
a
lengthy
process.
The
developer
opted
to
annex
the
loop
property
under
the
current
highway
commercial
zoning
district
classification.
S
In
addition,
when
the
loop
property
was
annexed,
the
owner
developer
initially
discussed
a
plan
development
for
the
entire
site.
However,
no
formal
proposal
was
submitted.
Staff
began
meeting
with
the
all
these
group
in
2000
mid
2016
to
discuss
the
development
of
the
property
in
accordance
with
the
current
land
development
regulations,
staff
offered
the
option
of
a
plan
development
for
the
site,
which
would
allow
the
property
there's
a
developer
to
effectively
write
their
own
development
standards
for
the
parcel.
S
However,
all
these
two
chose
to
move
forward
with
the
variance
process
staff
again
met
with
the
oldest
group.
November
2016,
but
no
formal
application
was
submitted
in
April.
2017
staff
received
the
variance
application
for
the
new
grocery
store.
After
staffs
initial
review
of
the
variance
application,
there
was
an
11-page
city
staff
response
to
the
request
staff
met
again
with
the
oldest
group
on
May
11th
2017
to
discuss
those
requests
at
that
meeting
staff
offered
the
option
of
an
internal
street
to
offset
a
portion
of
the
variance
request.
S
All
these
stated
that
the
use
of
a
private
street
through
the
site
was
not
an
option.
After
the
May
11
2017
meeting,
a
revised
application
and
site
plan
was
submitted.
All
these
had
made
some
changes
to
the
application
and
site
plan,
including,
but
not
limited
to
the
following.
The
shopping,
cart
storage
area
was
now
being
closed.
Sidewalks
and
pedestrian
crosswalks
were
added,
along
with
the
use
of
different
materials
to
distinguish
the
sidewalk
area
and
properly
guide
pedestrian
circulation,
updated
the
lighting
fixtures
to
comply
with
the
applicable
codes.
S
Additional
pedestrian
crosswalks
have
been
added
throughout
the
site,
along
with
the
sidewalk
along
McKellar
Street
and
Indian
Springs
Cemetery
Road
architectural
elevations
were
modified
to
comply
with
the
code.
Additional
site
and
architectural
treatments
were
added
to
comply
with
the
code.
In
example,
canopies
integrated
with
the
building
massing
and
style,
decorative
landscape
planners
outdoor
seating,
integration
of
stamped
concrete
and
covered
short-term
bicycle
parking
driveway
with
that
Indian
Spring,
Cemetery,
Road
and
Glasgow
Avenue
have
been
modified
and
designed
with
contrasting
material.
S
In
the
turn
areas
that
exceed
24
feet,
foot
width
similar
to
what
was
done
with
the
dollar
general
store
at
1300
tamiami
trail
bicycle
parking
has
been
moved
to
comply
with
the
code
that
would
like
to
read
their
conclusions
into
the
record
conclusion
number
1.
The
proposed
variance
does
not
provide
any
special
conditions
or
circumstances
of
the
land
that
would
prevent
the
development
for
meeting
all
the
applicable
provisions
of
chapter
26
land
development
regulations,
including
items
specific
to
this
request,
setbacks,
parking,
driveway
widths
and
street
frontage
build-out
requirements.
S
Conclusion
number
2,
no
undue
hardship
can
be
identified.
Conclusion
number
3
staff
cannot
find
that
the
property
or
proposal
has
any
shared
hardship.
In
conclusion,
number
4,
the
proposed
variance
request
is
in
conflict
with
the
intent
of
the
land
development
regulations
and
the
New
Urbanism
code
that
was
adopted
in
2005
and
therefore
is
inconsistent
with
the
city
of
Punta
Gorda,
comprehensive
plan
staff
recommendations.
Staff
does
understand
that
this
parcel
is
not
the
prototypical
highway
commercial
parcel.