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Description
San Bruno City Council Meeting January 26, 2021
6b. Purchase Two (Fire) Pumpers
A
Thank
you,
fire
chief.
A
A
D
Okay,
so
javon
williams,
city
manager,
our
fire
chief,
ari
delay,
will
give
this
presentation.
D
Ordinarily,
we
do
not
do
this
in
depth
of
a
presentation
for
purchasing
equipment,
but
there
there
are
two
fire
engines
of
a
price
of
nearly
1.6
million
dollars,
and
so
I've
asked
the
fire
chief
to
give
the
city
council
a
full
overview
of
why
we're
endeavoring
with
this
purchase.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
to
fire
to
the
target.
C
Good
evening,
honorable
mayor
members
of
the
council
are
a
delay,
your
fire
chief,
I'm
here
this
evening
to
make
a
presentation
to
the
city
council
on
the
purchase
of
two
type
1
fire
engines.
C
Our
agenda
is
to
provide
an
overview
of
our
current
fleet
review.
Our
current
apparatus
do
for
replacement,
describe
the
elements
that
we
use
to
determine
apparatus
replacement
in
that
schedule
to
review
the
replacement
options
that
we
considered
and
to
review
the
lease
obligation
that
we
currently
have,
and
the
timing
of
a
proposed
new
lease
obligation
and
then
review
tonight's
actions
and
then
take
any
questions
that
the
council
may
have
just
to
provide
a
brief
overview
of
the
vehicle
types
that
we
we
utilize
in
the
fire
department.
C
This
seems
very
basic,
but
it's
a
it's
kind
of
an
interesting
element.
We
have
our
fire
engines
which
are
really
the
workforce
of
the
fire
department.
Does
you
know?
Eighty
percent
of
the
day-to-day
work
of
the
fire
department
on
the
right
of
the
screen
you'll
see
our
fire
truck?
That's
our
100
foot
aerial
ladder
truck
that
we
use
in
the
fire
department.
C
Department,
they
are
the
primary
resources
used
to
carry
water
pump,
that
water
carry
hose
ladders,
the
crew
and
the
tools
and
equipment
to
be
able
to
suppress
fires
and
run
medical
emergencies
and
vehicle
accidents.
In
the
city
of
san
bruno,
we
have
two
of
those
front-line
apparatus,
which
I
also
noted
there.
That
are
what
we
call
als
or
advanced
life
support,
meaning
at
least
one
paramedic
is
important.
Each
one
of
those
apparatus,
those
fire.
B
C
D
C
Ladder
trucks
are
the
primary
resource
that
we
use
to
search
buildings
in
fires.
They
carry
specialized
equipment
to
see
through
smoke,
to
rescue
victims
and
carry
tools
and
equipment
to
force
entry
to
buildings
and
they're
again
a
primary
resource.
They
carry
a
lot
of
the
tools
we
use
to
rescue
tract
off,
trapped
occupants
of
vehicle
accidents
and
that
primary
first
out
unit
is
truck
51
and
again.
That
is
als
or
advanced
life
support.
So
it
has
at
least
one
paramedic
on
board
that
unit
as
well.
D
C
The
next
slide
here
is
basically
a
brief
review
of
our
status
of
our
fleet.
It
goes
over
the
years
of
the
vehicles
and
the
mileage
associated
with
it.
Each
one
of
those
respective
vehicles
and
you'll
see
the
two
highlighted.
Vehicles
are
engine
151
and
152.
C
C
So
how
do
we
determine
the
apparatus
and
its
life
cycle?
C
We
have
industry
standard,
nfpa
1901
is
the
industry
standard
that
guides
how
we
replace
vehicles
and,
although
nfpa
1901
doesn't
say
exactly
how
many
years
a
vehicle
should
be
in
place,
it
talks
about
age
and
condition
and
use
of
those
vehicles
that
are
unique
to
each
agency
and
their
specific
jurisdiction.
Their
call
volume
and
things
like
that.
C
So
our
recommendation,
based
on
all
those
factors,
is
a
20-year
life
cycle
for
these
vehicles.
The.
C
Slated
for
replacement
would
be
engine
151.
This
is
a
2001
type
1
engine
and
again
these
are
the
workforces
of
our
fleet,
and
you
can
see
this
vehicle
if
it
was
a
passenger
vehicle.
A
112
000
miles
would
be
a
decent
amount
of
mileage,
but
not
not
not
completely
crazy,
but
for
a
fire
truck.
That's
quite
a
few
miles
on
it.
These
again
are
the
day-to-day
tools
that
provide
the
service
that
we
we
deliver
to
the
public
and
the
second
vehicle
here
is
engine
152.
B
C
Vehicle,
so
I
talked
a
little
bit
earlier
about
how
vehicle
replacement
is
decided,
they're
evaluated
by
their
age
mileage
operating
hours,
and
a
fire
truck
is
different
than
a
lot
of
types
of
vehicles,
because
typically
in
a
vehicle,
you
you
drive
it
from
place
to
place
and
those
are
the
hours
that
are
operated.
C
C
And
also
opportunities
to
improve
our
fleet
and
enhance
our
effectiveness
and
again
just
highlight
that
both
of
these
vehicles
are
over
20
years
old
and
san
bruno
is
historically
had.
Engine
51
here
at
central
station
is
one
of
the
top
three
busiest
engines
in
san
mateo
county.
The
fire
department
rock
runs
typically
between
4
500
and
5
000
calls
per
year
and
are
some
of
the
busiest
engines
in
san
mateo
county.
So
that
really
plays
into
the
vehicle
replacement
cycle
and
how
soon
we
would
place
an
engine
from
frontline
service
to
reserve.
C
Status,
I've
provided
a
a
a
chart.
One
important
thing
to
note:
is
you
notice
a
significant
decrease
right
there
at
2020
or
2019
to
2020
and
that's
our
coven
status
in
the
in
our
community?
So
we
had
a
significant
decrease
in
call
volume
with
covid,
but
you
notice
the
overall
trend
in
our
next
slide.
C
We'll
show
you
the
trend
line
for
our
apparatus
and
the
trend
line
is
for
our
apparatus
as
a
linear
forecast
of
our
call
volume-
and
you
see
engine
51
on
the
top
right
corner
of
the
screen-
is
our
most
productive
vehicle
and
was
and
has
the
most
runs.
So
it's
it's.
These
things
are
really
work
horses
again
for
the
fire
department
and
provide
a
lot
of
important
services
to
our
community.
C
C
Pictures
of
our
apparatus
talked
about
the
improvements
that
we
would
want
to
make
to
refurbish
the
vehicles
and
kind
of
you
know
refresh
the
engine,
the
drivetrain
electrical
components
and
the
estimate
were
around
500
to
600
000
to
refurbish
the
apparatus.
C
That
in
the
in
the
neighborhood
of
age
and
years
of
service
that
would
replace
some
of
these
vehicles
and
still
have
a
usable
life
left
in
it.
The
problem
with
that
circumstance
is
those
vehicles
are
typically
sold,
as
is
and
with
no
warranties,
and
if
you
do
purchase
a
warranty,
they
can
be
quite
expensive
and
the
cost
of
a
vehicle
in
that
age.
Genre
that
would
allow
us
to
continue
to
operate
would
be
around
the
400
thousand
dollar
mark,
and
then
the
third
option
was
a
new
vehicle.
C
With
let's
see
here,
excuse
me
one
just
one
moment
to
develop
the
specification
we
came
up
for
the
the
recommendation
of
a
new
vehicle.
We
established
an
apparatus
committee.
They
used
a
long
approximately
six
month
process
to
review
the
manufacturers,
select
a
make
and
model
of
unit.
C
Committee
walked
through
the
entire
process.
If
I
could
go
to
the
next
slide
to
determine
that
specification
and
deliver
a
a
big
package
with
the
vendor.
We
have
obviously
purchasing
requirements
here
within
the
city
to
meet
those
purchasing
requirements.
We
utilized
a
tool
called
htac
buy
htac
buy,
is
a
purchasing
cooperative
that
meets
the
requirements
for
competitive
bidding
and
then
working
with
our
finance
department.
C
Okay,
so
currently
we
have
two
vehicles
that
are
under
a
lease
option:
lease
purchase
agreement
that
lease
purchase
agreement
obligation
ends
in
october
of
21.
that
the
value
of
that
lease
obligation
was
1.873
million,
and
the
idea
here
is
what
we're
attempting
to
do
is
retire,
that
lease
obligation
that
we
currently
have
in
october
and
this
lease
obligation
as
a
fire
truck,
is
about
a
12
to
14
month
process
to
get
built.
This
lease
obligation
would
pick
up
after
that
sunsetted
and.
C
Dollars
and
with
that,
our
recommendation
based
on
the
evaluation
and
the
factors
that
we
had
before
us
and
the
apparatus
committee
was
to
choose
the
route
to
do
a
new
purchase
for
vehicles
under
a
lease
purchase
agreement
and
our
recommendation
for
the
council
for
his
adopt
a
resolution
authorized
and
city
manager
to
execute
a
contract
with
the
goldman
state.
And
with
that,
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
I'm
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
for
the
detailed
report
also
thank
you
to
the
selection
committee
and
the
team
for
taking
a
look
at
the
various
options.
Questions
from
colleagues.
A
G
Thank
you.
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
interesting
these
these
pieces
of
equipment
that
are
so
important
that
nobody
knows
how
important
they
are
until
you
actually
need
one
right
until
there's
actually
a
fire
and
how
reliable
they
need
to
be
so
so
we
have
the
miles
now.
Can
you
give
us
any
information
on
like
the
maintenance
like
these?
G
C
C
Has
been
become
more
costly,
we've
done
some
significant
maintenance
projects
on
these
apparatus
in
the
last
few
years
and
the
the
idea
is
you
kind
of
get
to
this
breakover
point
where
the
maintenance
becomes
too
problematic
and
it's
it's
more
cost
effective,
actually
to
purchase
a
new,
and
both
of
these
vehicles
are
kind
of
at
that
age,
where
they're
starting
to
have
all
those
signs
of
wear
and
starting
to
have
significant
problems
and
the
problem
with
the
fire
truck.
Is
you
know
when
you
do
have
a
catastrophic
problem?
C
They're
in
the
40
50
000
catastrophic
problem
ranges
to
replace
an
engine
or
a
transmission
and
those
things,
so
we're
really
attempting
to
put
good
money
after
after
good
and
not.
You
know
good
money
after
bad.
B
D
D
D
Is
replacing
our
two
reserve
engines
that
the
new
engines
will
become
front
line
engines
and
today
is
a
great
example
where
we
have
a
fire
truck
that
has
been
deployed
to
help
san
mateo
county
in
the
potential
mudslides,
and
so
we
had
to
make
a
decision.
D
Do
we
send
our
firefighters
out
in
a
critical
incident
in
a
20
year
old
vehicle,
or
do
we
keep
that
20
year
old
vehicle
here
to
run
calls
and
the
decision
was
to
send
our
firefighters
that
are
going
out
in
some
of
the
tough
conditions
in
our
best
vehicle
and
so
what's
served
in
san
bruno
now
is
a
20
year
old
vehicle
because.
D
Earlier
this
year,
when
we
had
the
fires-
and
we
decided
to
send
the
newest
engine
out
with
our
firefighters
that
were
fighting
wildfires
and
we
were
left
with
a
20
year
old
vehicle
here
to
serve
the
community.
And
so.
D
Make
these
tough
calls
and-
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we're
bringing
this
before
you?
Because
we
really
need
to
get
to
a
situation
where
we
keep
our
vehicles
for
20
years,
but
10
years
on
the
front
line
10
years
on
the
back
on
the
back
end
and
we
have
a
regular
replacement.
F
Thank
you.
My
my
concerns
were
along
the
same
lines
and-
and
I
I
do
support
the
the
methodology
here
for
the
rotation
and
having
a
set
timeline
and
planning
ahead
and
having
the
budget
in
place
to
replace
the
engines,
which
was
something
we
haven't
done
before,
and
I
think
it's
definitely
necessary,
but
along
the
lines
of
maintenance.
I
know
that
a
lot
of
the
engine
maintenance
is
done
or
it
used
to
be.
I
know
it
done
in-house.
F
We
had
some
expertise
in-house
to
work
on
the
engines
and
looking
through
the
description
of
the
new
vehicles,
I
noticed
there
was
a
lot
of
electronics
incorporated
into
them.
Linux
operating
system
based
display
systems,
and-
and
so
I'm
wondering
you
know
what
does
that
do
to
our
total
cost
of
ownership
when
the
vehicles
become
that
much
more
complicated?
F
Are
we
then
going
to
incur
more
expensive
annual
maintenance
or
regular
maintenance
and
then,
in
terms
of
obsolescence,
you
know
20
years
might
seem.
You
know.
Okay,
for
you
know
the
mechanical
structure
of
the
vehicle,
but
are
those
electronics
going
to
be
completely
obsolete
in
five
years
and
then
not
really
worth
it?
And
can
we
swap
those
out?
Is
there
some
opportunity
to
upgrade
those
along
the
way
as
things
get
better.
C
We
are
extremely
fortunate
here
in
the
city
of
san
bruno
with
our
fire
department.
We
have
shift
mechanics
that
that
work
on
shift
and
take
care
of
the
lion's
share
of
problems
with
our
fleet.
They
are
an
extremely
technologically
savvy
group.
They
have
code
readers
that
read
the
computers
that
we
have
on
board
of
our
apparatus
currently
and
they're
well-versed
in
it.
C
Goes
these
vehicles
have
some
pretty
advanced
technology.
One
of
the
features
is
the
vehicle
has
what
they
call
prognostics
and
it
basically
preempts
you
to
provide
that
routine
maintenance.
That's
up
due
and
ready
for
the
vehicle,
so
it
really
gives
you
a
heads
up
for
it,
and
you
see
a
lot
of
the
modern
vehicles.
Are
that
way
where
you
have
an
app
that
tells
you
when
to
change
the
oil
and
when
to
take
some
preventative
maintenance
steps,
these
vehicles
have
those
same
components
in
them.
C
C
Another
really
important
piece
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
council
is
a
lot
of
these
modern
fire
trucks,
and
these
ones
specifically
have
a
system
called
haas
alerts,
and
that
system
is
where
the
fire
truck
goes
down
the
road,
and
once
you
turn
the
code
three
lights
on,
it
is
able
to
notify
folks
that
are
using
the
waze
application
on
their
phones
to
be
able
to
navigate,
and
it
tells
them
to
pull
over
because
you
have
a
fire
truck
coming
behind
you.
C
So
some
really
important
components
like
that,
and
we
have
a
a
very
qualified
group
of
shift,
mechanics
led
by
battalion
chief
mike
kuh
he's
in
charge
of
our
fleet
and
I'm
very
confident
that
they
have
the
skills
and
ability
to
be
able
to
do
the.
You
know
day-to-day
maintenance
and
repairs
of
the
vehicles,
and
we
do
send.
C
Yeah,
we
do
send
our
vehicles
out
for
major
repairs
that
are
outside
of
the
capabilities
here
within
the
city,
but
those
day-to-day
costs
and
honestly,
the
the
total
cost
of
vehicles
is
actually
out
of
service
time
and
of
us
having
those
in-house
people
to
be
able
to
do
those
day-to-day
repairs.
We
don't
have
to
send
it
across
the
bay
or
a
lot
of
times
now
it's
the
sacramento
valley
or
san
joaquin
valley,
where
vehicles
are
sent
for
maintenance
and
repair.
E
Hi
I
so
I
had
the
I
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
with
chief
delay
this
week
as
part
of
my
onboarding.
So
I
know
I
I'm
going
to
ask
a
question.
E
I
know
the
answer
to,
but
I
think
it's
it's
it's
important
information
for
the
for
the
rest
of
the
council
and
for
the
public
to
hear
and
chief,
you
had
told
me
when
we
were
talking
about
how
engine
51
the
the
the
real
workhorse
that
the
the
most
number
of
calls
it
does,
and
you
know
it
ends
up
with
way
more
miles
on
it
than
engine
52
which
it
doesn't
go
out
on
as
many
calls
and
you
talked
about
how
to
be
able
to
rather
than
actually
you
know,
paint
the
numbers
directly
on
the
trucks
to
be
able
to
swap
those
swap
between
them
to
spread
the
miles
out.
E
Is
that
can
you
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
for
the
for
the
for
the
public.
C
C
C
With
our
fleet,
working
with
shifu
is
to
be
able
to
provide
some
balanced
mileage.
You
look
at
the
two
vehicles
that
we're
replacing
they're
not
equally
balanced
as
far
as
mileage.
So
we
have
the
opportunity
we're
going
to
design
in
placarding
on
those
vehicles
where
we
can
take
out
the
placards
switch
them
out
amongst
vehicles
and
move
engine
52
which
has
less
miles
on
it
down
to
51
and
balance
those
mile
miles
to
be
able
to
get
the
most
money
out
of
our
the
value
of
our
vehicles.
C
A
A
couple
questions
for
me
is
first
just
for
folks.
Knowledge,
too,
is
that
central.
We
there's
also
a
mechanic
facility
there
that
has
been
utilized
before
and
that
was
trying
to
use
more
county
type
resources,
but
also
as
as
was
indicated
by
the
chief.
We
do
have
some
talented
folks
that
are
able
to
do
some
stuff
in-house,
which
saves
time
money
et
cetera,
so
that
that
is
a
positive
to
to
have
that
again.
The
other
thing
is
going
down.
A
Obviously,
we
know
that
these
aren't
cheap
and
we
we
know
why.
But
when
I
was-
and
I
asked
of
the
manager
and
I'd
like
to
see-
maybe
this
talked
about
at
a
time
of
budget-
is
we
have
a
equipment
reserve
fund.
A
But
obviously
we
know
we
can't
fund
everything,
but
when
we
do
get
deployed
to
the
fires
and
what
have
you
and
we
get
reimbursed,
there's
for
the
staff
time
which
comes
back
to
the
city,
but
there's
also
for
the
shall
we
say,
wear
and
tear
of
the
vehicle
on
why
it's
being
dispatched
but
those
reimbursements.
A
Once
they're
provided
back
to
the
city,
could
they
be
put
in
a
separate
account
that
specifically
goes
toward
cost
to
replenish
fire
vehicles
so
that
we
have
these
monies,
whether
it's
100,
200
300
000
that
we
may
get
in
a
high
season?
I'm
not
sure
what
it
may
be,
but
they
could
be
allocated
back
toward
just
trying
to
keep
up
so
that
our
equipment
reserve
is
at
a
good
maintained
level.
D
Yes
and
mayor
that
ensure
that
we
track
those
costs
and
we,
when
we
receive
the
cal
fire
reimbursement,
take
the
reimbursable
amounts
for
equipment
and
vehicles
and
set
those
assigned
separately
so
they're
not
co-mingled
with
other
general
fundraising
persons.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Counselor
mason,.
B
Yeah
no,
I
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
I
met
with
chief
delay
when
I
first
got
elected
and
he
told
me
he
needs
new
vehicles,
so
this
is
not
new.
B
He
explained
to
me
how
the
vehicles
work,
how
a
lot
of
the
upkeep
on
the
existing
vehicles
have
been
really
done
by
the
existing
firefighters
that
are
in-house,
and
so
I
just
have
a
note
here
that
I
think
that
the
need
for
reliable
vehicles
for
our
firefighters,
that
are
also
oftentimes
paramedics,
really
is
a
priority
and
while
we're
in
some
tough
times,
I
have
absolutely
no
reservation
approving
and
supporting
this
resolution
tonight.
Thank
you.
G
I
couldn't
find
it
very
easily
what
was
the
the
interest
rate
on
this
lease.
C
Sure
so
so
the
timing.
C
Basically,
what
we're
seeking
is
approval
from
the
council
to
to
execute
a
contract.
The
lease
purchase
would
not
take
place
until
the
vehicle
is
delivered,
which
january
february
march
of
2022,
so
it
would
be
executed
at
that
time
when
those
lease
arrangements
are
made
by
the
finance
department.
C
D
When
we
actually
go
out
to
leasing
and
be
purchasing
the
trucks
through
the
lease
financing,
it's
also
worth
mentioning
that
this
is
not
a
budgetary
challenge,
because
we
currently
have
in
our
operating
budget
payment
of
the
the
lease
payments
for
the
prior
vehicles
we
purchased
and
there
will
actually
be
a
savings
in
a
for
a
number
of
months
between
when
we
retire.
The
payment
for
the
current
vehicles
and
the
payment
for
the
new
vehicles
come
on
board,
and
so.
D
Budget
next
year,
there'll
be
a
savings,
but
unfortunately
I
can't
quote
you
the
current
lease
rate
or
for
what
it
will
be
when
we
enter
into
the
lease
purchase
agreement.
A
Yeah
and
then
finally,
I
I
want
to
compliment
because
I
think
you
know
when
we
when
we
purchased
the
engine
and
the
truck
prior
by
the
collaboration.
I
think
it
was
at
this
that
point
chief
kennedy
that
worked
on
that
it
was,
I
think,
as
they
worked
it
out.
It
was
close
to
about
an
80
000
savings
by
the
way
was
purchased
and
by
doing
them
together,
and
so
by
again,
I
think,
bringing
the
team
together
and
having
everybody
look
into
this.
A
I
think,
obviously
it
was
successful
then,
and
it's
successful
now,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
that
same
strategy,
because
I
think
it's
the
best
served
for
the
firefighters
and
for
the
community.
So
thank
you
with
that.
This
is,
is
I
don't
see
any
council
member?
I
mean
I
apologize
any
public
members
with
their
hands
up,
so
this
is
a
and
a
resolution
requesting.