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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Meeting March 9, 2021 7. Trash Receptacles and Newspaper Rack Enclosures
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San Bruno City Council Meeting March 9, 2021
7. Trash Receptacles and Newspaper Rack Enclosures on San Mateo Avenue
B
Good
afternoon
council,
this
presentation
will
be
provided
by
jimmy
tan,
our
public
works
director,
but
I
just
want
to
provide
a
brief
introductory
comment.
So,
throughout
the
presentation
you
will
see
the
cost
of
various
trash
receptacles,
as
well
as
the
cost
of
the
newspaper
wraps
as
hard
as
hard
as
it
is.
What
I
want
to
say
is
don't
center
on
the
costs,
there's
sometimes
a
several
hundred
dollar
difference,
if
not
a
thousand
dollar
difference
between
some
of
the
various
receptacles.
B
However,
we
do
know
that
there
are
grant
funds
that
can
fund
the
recycling
portion
and
we're
looking
for
grants
to
fund
the
other
portions.
Also,
the
current
trash
cans
have
been
there
for
over
30
years,
and
so
a
few
hundred
dollar
difference
between
one
trash
can
or
the
other.
I
don't
want
you
to
sort
of
center
on
the
price
and
have
that
be
the
the
the
highest
factor
that
you
weigh.
B
It's
really
the
aesthetics
of
our
downtown,
the
usability
and
and
maintenance
of
that
trash
can,
and
there
are
a
number
of
various
versions.
I
think
a
total
of
nine
that
we
will
talk
about
and
with
that
intro
I'll
turn
it
over
to
our
public
works
director.
Jimmy
jam.
C
Thank
you
city
manager,
good
evening,
honourable
mayor,
members
of
the
city
council.
I'm
public
works.
America's
director,
jimmy
tan,
have
a
brief
presentation
on
this
item
tonight.
C
The
agenda
for
tonight's
presentation
is
as
follows:
I'll
provide
a
brief
background
on
the
adopted
cemetery
avenues.
Conceptual
streetscape
plan
then
discuss
the
criteria
used
to
select
the
trash
receptacles
and
show
some
available
options
then
share
some
examples
of
newspaper,
racks
and
closures
and,
lastly,
staffs
recommendations
and
next
steps
that
not
all
questions.
C
As
for
the
background
on
the
city
council
adopted
the
cemetery
avenue's
conceptual
seascape
plan
on
october
22nd
2019,
which
determined
the
vision
for
the
city's
downtown
corridor.
The
plan
evaluated
the
cemetery
avenue
corridor
from
el
camino
to
huntington
avenue
near
artichoke
joe's
and
was
developed
through
a
community
engagement
process.
C
The
plan
included
design
guidelines
to
create
an
inviting
downtown
atmosphere
for
pedestrians,
bicyclists
and
motorists.
It
also
included
recommendations
to
beautify
and
enhance
the
material
avenue
as
a
conceptual
plan.
This
document
is
to
be
used
as
a
guide
for
the
next
steps
of
the
design
process,
while
leaving
flexibility
for
future
implementation.
C
C
Some
of
the
proposed
improvements
include
new
sidewalk,
paving
public
art
spaces,
improved
planting
storm
water
management
features,
lighting,
wayfinding,
signage
and
gateways,
and
one
of
the
recommended
improvements
included,
the
replacement
of
the
the
trash,
receptacles
and
and
then
possibly
and
then
also
including
the
installation
regards
around
the
newspaper
racks.
So
currently,
existing
trash
receptacle
looks
like
the
one,
a
picture
that
you
see
on
the
bottom
right
hand
corner
it's
old.
As
the
city
manager
mentioned,
it's
made
out
of
concrete
and
it's
in
dire
need
of
replacement.
C
As
you
see
on
the
you
know,
the
pictures
on
the
right
you
know
show
just
you
know,
two
pictures
of
the
one
trash
and
then
one
recycling
receptacle.
The
receptacles
are
proposed
to
be
stainless
steel,
but
no
other
information
was
provided
in
the
the
document
so
prior
to
the
selection
of
the
receptacles
staff
determined
the
criteria.
You
know,
as
noted
on
the
slide
and
staff
determined
our
staff
discussed
with
ecology
to
determine
the
capacity,
and
they
mentioned
that
the
minimum
capacity
shall
be
you
know.
C
32
gallons
and
staff
also
was
interested
in
having
a
receptacle
with
the
lid
and
cover
to
prevent
to
prevent
any
rainwater
going
to
the
can,
but
maintenance
is
also
of
concern
for
both
ecology
and
the
city
for
ecology.
Doors
with
the
lids
must
be
easily
accessible
for
their
staff
to
retrieve
the
waste
for
city
staff,
who
are
interested
in
having
a
receptacle.
That's
easily
maintainable.
C
Having
a
stainless
steel
receptacle,
that's
proposed
in
a
three-state
plan
would
create
maintenance
issues
if
it's
stained,
so
staff
is
interested
in
receptacles
that
are,
that
can
be
easily
maintained.
In
addition,
staff
look
for
recycles
in
material,
that
is
a
fire
rest
and
stain
resistant
and
the
design
that
prevents
graffiti
from
being
etched.
You
know
onto
these
receptacles.
C
So
here
just
you
know
several
options:
the
staff
found
that
met
the
criteria
staff
share
the
options
with
ecology;
they
don't
have
any
preference
on
the
design
and
are
more
focused
on
the
ease
of
access
to
retrieve
the
waste.
So
the
common
theme
that
we're
is
that
we're
not
proposing
any
stainless
steel
receptacles.
C
As
you
can
see
here,
all
of
the
receptacles
have
lids
on
top,
except
for
number
two
which
does
come
with
the
lid,
but
it's
not
shown
also.
The
design
will
prevent
graffiti.
So
so
receptacles
one
through
five
are
similar
with
slash
design
numbers.
One
and
two
are
very
common.
C
You
know
in
other
downtown,
you
know
areas,
you
know
you
go
to
burlingame
or
you
know
saint
carlos,
and
you
see
very
similar
receptacles
as
number
one
and
two
variations
there
and
there's
also
used
in
a
lot
of
the
parts
settings
as
well.
Receptacles,
you
know,
six
through
nine
are
a
bit
different
with
no
slats
number.
Seven
is
currently
being
used
at
earl
glenview
park.
C
Number
eight
is
a
variation
of
a
number
seven
with
a
wood
exterior
instead
of
a
of
all
steel
number.
Nine
is
it's
a
big
belly
receptacle,
it's
a
solar
power
to
let
staff
know
when
the
trash
is.
You
know,
ready
for
disposal
and
also
has
a
trash
compactor
component,
and
the
unit's
advantage
is
that
it
can
be.
It
can
reduce
the
number
of
collection.
Thus,
you
know
reducing
the
cost.
C
So
these
are
just
you
know
some
of
the
more
detailed
information
for
the
the
trash
receptacles
here.
This
is
the
streetscape
classic,
and
you
know
you
know
very
highly
common
commonly
used
in
several
downtown
areas,
as
I
mentioned
before,
this
is
the
other
receptacles
here,
the
do-more,
which
is
another
commonly
used
in
park
settings
as
well
as
downtown
areas.
C
And
then
the
doomware,
which
is
the
which
is
what
we're
currently
using
at
at
the
earl
glenview
park,
this
one
comes
in
a
variety
of
different
colors,
as
shown
on
the
slide
here
as
well,
and
then
also
the
variations
that
you
I
mentioned
from.
This
is
the
seal
versus
the
you
know.
The
seal
and
wood
combination
as
well.
C
And
this
again
the
big
belly
is
the
most
expensive
unit.
You
know
it's
about
four
thousand
dollars
per
unit
to
purchase
and
it's
you
know
it's
a
lot.
A
lot
of
agencies
have
this.
You
know
milker
actually
has
have
big
bellies.
You
know
in
their
downtown
corridor
as
well.
C
So,
as
for
the
newspaper
racks
they're,
you
know
they're
also
in
dire
need
of
replacement
and
possibly
some
sort
of
enclosure
surrounding
for
aesthetics.
The
city
doesn't
own.
The
newspaper
racks,
the
city
has
a
total
of
five
locations
in
the
downtown
area
where
the
the
racks
currently
exist
and
the
list
of
locations
are
are
located
on
the
slide
there,
and
some
of
these
locations
may
not
need
enclosure.
You
know,
as
the
newspaper
racks
up
or
against
the
wall
of
some
businesses.
C
Now
the
picture
that
you
see
on
our
on
the
slide
here
is
of
the
the
racks
you
know
adjacent
to
or
right
in
front
of
us,
the
starbucks
yeah.
So
you
know
putting
in
the
closure
may
not
be
necessary
in
those
locations,
but
staff
will
evaluate
each.
You
know,
location
detail
as
well
as
any
ada
issues
related
to
the
installation
of
any
enclosures
and
staff
will
also
coordinate
with
any
with
the
newspaper
companies
prior
to
the
replacement
of
these
newspaper
racks.
C
So
the
cost
to
replace
the
racks
enclosure
at
each
location
is
approximately
six
thousand
dollars
the
picture
on
the
the
right
that
you
see
there
is
from
millbrae
in
their
downtown
border,
where
the
the
newspaper
racks
are
partially
closed.
The
city
or
burlingame
actually
has
something
similar
to
this
in
their
downtown
areas,
as
oswald
staff
reached
out
to
the
vendor
that
created
the
design
and
manufactured
enclosure
for
milgray,
and
some
of
these
patterns
are
from
the
manufacturer.
C
The
architect
that
is
shown
on
the
slide
as
well
and
and
multiple
patterns
can
be
made
and
sample
patterns
are
shown
here.
But
you
know
if
the
city
is
interested
in,
you
know
having
our
own
design
additional
costs.
You
know
there
are
some
additional
costs
with
the
non-standard
patterns,
but
but
it
can
vary
depending
on
the
complexity
of
the
design
as
well.
So.
C
So
for
tonight,
staff
is
recommended
to
replace
both
the
the
trash
receptacles
and
newspaper
racks,
along
with
installation
of
enclosure
and
seeking
counselor's
input
on
the
design
options.
C
C
As
for
the
next
steps,
you
would
like
to,
you
know,
identify
the
model
of
the
trash
receptacles
and
allocate
the
budget
to
replace
them,
and
that's
pretty
much
it
so.
This
concludes
my
presentation
and
we're
available
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Thank
you
director
tan
for
those
comments
and
let's
turn
it
back
to
the.
If
you
take
the
screen
down,
please
thank
you.
Kindly
city
manager,
do
you
have
any
other
final
comments
before
I
go
to
council.
B
Sure
we
neglected
to
mention
that
tonight's
action
is
just
a
study
session
for
the
city
council
to
provide
design
direction
on
the
type
of
trash
receptacle,
as
well
as
the
the
appropriate
approach
for
new
stamps.
B
B
A
funding
plan
and
an
implementation
plan
with
timing
once
we
get
direction.
B
In
addition
on
that
slide,
where
you
saw
the
nine
options,
it's
worth
pointing
out
that,
while
staff
is
not
providing
a
recommendation,
we
do
want
to
highlight
that
options,
one
through
five
all
have
flaps
and
there
is
a
test
or
a
pilot
of
option,
one
in
front
of
starbucks.
It
is
a
trash
receptacle
and
a
recycling
receptacle.
B
It
is
currently
as
of
today
suffering
from
some
dilapidation
and
that
the
the
top
the
tops
are
broken
off
as
well
as
trash
becomes
trapped
in
between
the
slats
when
the
bin
is
when
the
interior
32
gallon,
can
is
taken
out
to
be
disposed
of,
and
so
it
does
create
one,
an
unsightly
issue
and
a
constant
maintenance
issue,
and
so
council
should
think
of
that
aesthetic
wise
when
you're
looking
at
options
one
through
five,
because
all
of
those
have
varying
versions
of
a
see-through
feature
where
trash
can
be
trapped.
A
Thank
you.
I
was
kind
of
looking
when
I
raised
my
hand,
I
was
having
a
hard
time
is
before
I
open
it
to
my
colleagues
just
so
we're.
I
guess
you
mentioned
the
the
starbucks
to
give
some
history.
There
was
the
time
that
it
was
like.
Let's
get
two
trash
cans,
one
for
recycling,
one
for
regular
trash
and
then
see
how
they
operate.
A
A
And
so
that's
that's
not
of
a
value
if
we're
spending
so
much
money
on
something
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
use
the
value
of
what
it's
supposed
to
be
for
and
it
ends
up
being
contaminated.
So
are
we
looking
at
just
trash
receptacles?
Are
we
talking
recyclable?
Are
we
talking
both
or
what
what's
the
thought
on
that.
B
So
can
I
ask
director
cam
to
put
up
the
slide
of
the
version
that
is
at
earl
glenview
park,
because
we
purposely
put
a
another
option
for
the
recycling
container,
that
has
a
circle
out
for
bottles
or
other
recycling
models
just
to
further
denote
that
the
difference
and
you
can
actually.
B
A
D
Yes,
thank
you.
This
has
been
a
long
time
coming.
I
recall
the
mayor
and
I
on
a
subcommittee
meeting
and
and
going
through
a
bunch
of
these
models,
and
we
got
to
a
certain
point
and
nothing
else
happened
after
we
got
those
receptacles
there
at
starbucks.
So
so
thank
you
for
moving
forward
with
this.
D
I
did
go.
Look
at
the
glenview
can
and
it's
it's
nice
looking
do.
We
have
any
other
cities
using
that
model
because
it
seems
to
be
holding
up
fairly
well
at
a
park
where
not
too
many
people
are
kind
of
hammering
it
and
it
and
where
so,
that's
my
first
question:
do
we
have
any
any
references
on
on
how
they're
performing
with
that
can
on
a
downtown
or
city
street?
D
D
As
for
the
newspaper
rats,
I
did
send
a
question
in
about
you
know:
are
they
necessary
to
have
them
and
I'd
like
to
share
that
with
the
public
when,
when
when
staff
responds,
but
my
suggestion
there
would
be
have
we
checked
our
the
question
there
is:
have
we
checked
with
the
newspaper
publishers
to
see
if
they
really
are
interested,
because
a
number
of
those
rack
containers
are
those
racks,
have
nothing
in
them
and
are
being
used
by
a
few
people
or
one
person
to
store
articles
personal
articles
during
the
day?
D
So
if
we
could
maybe
not
have
as
many
today,
I
get
my
daily
journal
from
one
of
the
one
of
the
businesses,
their
grand
leader.
Has
it
there
so
having
staff
check
with
the
newspaper
publishers
to
make
sure
that
they
really
didn't
want
them
anymore,
and
then,
who
has
to
pay
for
it?
One
of
the
questions
I
asked,
I
think,
that's
important
for
our
community.
You
know,
because
I
know
I
get
this
question
quite
a
bit
is:
who
maintains
the
garbage
cans?
Who
who
services
the
garbage
cans?
D
C
Would
you
like
me
to
take
that
on
city
manager.
C
Director
would
you
like
me
to
stop
sharing,
so
I
can
see.
Okay.
Thank
you.
Sorry
about
that.
So
a
couple
questions
that
were
raised
here
see
the
first
one.
You
know
where
what
whether
or
not
the
the
cans
at
the
glenview
organizer
are
being
used
in
downtown
areas.
You
know
I've
been
to
several
downtowns
here
within
the
peninsula
and
most
of
the
ones
that
I've
seen
are
the
first.
You
know
options
one
and
two,
but
they're
they're,
very
common.
C
You
know
in
san
carlos
you
know
san
mateo
and
burlingame,
actually
the
ones
in
in
middlebury.
As
I
mentioned,
you
know
they're
using
big
belly,
but
other
parts
of
areas
like
in
front
of
the
walgreens
in
milbury
they're,
using
you
know
very
similar
to
you
know
the
receptacle.
That's
shown
on
item
number
one.
It
seems
like
that's
more
common
in
the
other
downtowns
that
I've
seen
that
I've
been
to.
But
who
knows,
I
can
check
with
the
the
manufacturers
to
see
whether
they
sold
it
to
other.
C
You
know
other
city
agencies
and
that
they're
using
you
know,
within
their
downtown
or
not.
The
second
question
is
related
to
the
newspaper
rocks.
Yeah,
definitely,
I
think
you
know
you
know
I
was
out
there
this
morning,
opening
every
single
or
looking
through
every
single
one
of
them
to
see
whether
it
was
filled
or
not
and
you're
correct,
not
a
lot
of
the
the
bins
are
filled
and
there
are
multiple
locations
that
are
just
you
know,
especially
like
you
know.
Holland
has
some
on
two
bins
on
their
side
at
process.
C
Three
and
starbucks.
You
know
there's
like
eight
bins
there
right
and
then
you
have
the
you
know
in
front
of
big
joe's.
You
know
like
multiple
bins
there
and
the
west
coast
cafe
actually
has
multiple
bins
there
as
well,
so
you
know
we'll
definitely
coordinate
with
the
newspaper
companies,
especially
if
we're
going
to
be.
You
know
you
know,
make
no
replacing
all
of
these.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
we'll
put
it
in
the
you
know
the
right
spot
and
not
have
too
many
bins.
You
know
along
the
entire
downtown
corridor.
C
Here
the
regards
to
the
the
last
question
about
you
know
whose
services
decant
the
the
garbage,
the
ecology,
is
the
one
that
services
the
the
garbage
and
they
do
that
on
a
daily
basis.
They
do
it
five
days
and
it's
part
of
their
franchise
agreement
that
they
they
maintain,
that
for
the
city.
D
Question
for
are
we
intending
to
put
two
cans
at
each?
Can
location?
Is
that's
good,
yes
direction,
you're
asking
for
us
to
provide
that
direction,
or
do
you
have
a
recommendation
on
that.
C
D
I
was
there
this
week
this
this
last
weekend
and
and
and
various
weekends.
There
are
people
who
are.
I
guess
it's
better,
that
they're
using
the
cans
instead
of
throwing
it
on
the
street,
but
having
some
service
looked
into
on
on
the
weekend,
which
probably
is
more
expensive,
which
is
probably
why
it's
not
happening,
I'm
guessing
so
I'll
leave
it
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
B
C
The
newspaper
acts
are
owned
by
the
newspaper,
you
know
you
know,
agencies
and
there's
you
know.
According
to
our
city's
municipal
code,
they
are
the
ones
that
are
supposed
to
provide
the
maintenance
of
these
newspaper
racks.
B
And
cities
that
want
a
different,
aesthetic,
look
typically
paid
and
replaced
them,
and
so
that's.
B
B
We
showed
so
if
you
want
newer
newspaper
racks.
Typically
it's
the
municipal
agency
that
funds
it
and
then
you
have
to
provide
them
back
to
the
newspaper
companies.
D
Okay,
and
by
the
way,
those
screens
look
fine,
I'm
I'm
okay,
they're
all
pretty
nice
looking.
So
if
we
could
perhaps
reduce
the
number
of
racks
and
checking
with
them
and
then
putting
the
screens
up,
I
I
would
I
would
be
interested
in
improving
the
appearance
for
those
that
need
it
with
the
screens.
E
So
our
vice
mayor
was
very
methodical
in
going
through
most
of
my
questions
and
and
and
asking
them,
so
my
list
is
not
nearly
as
long
as
it
was
a
minute
ago.
One
one
general
comment
I
want
to
make
is
to
is
to
thank
staff
for
being
for
bringing
this
to
us.
I
have
been
advocating
for
a
long
time
that
we
use
this
use
the
streetscape
plan
as
a
as
a
menu
and
start
moving
forward
with
small
changes
to
downtown.
E
Knowing
that
you
know
we
don't
have
20
million
dollars
lying
around
to
implement
the
entire
program,
but
there
are
small
changes
that
we
can
make
to
show
our
merchants
and
to
show
our
residents
that
we
are
committed
to
improving
downtown,
and
this
is
a
this-
is
a
a
step
in
that
direction,
and
I
really
really
appreciate
it
going
to
the
to
this.
The
the
specifics.
E
The
look
one
thing
I
would
like
us
to
to
to
consider
as
far
as
you
know,
giving
staff
direction
of
things
to
the
things
to
look
at
since
this
is
a
study
session
is
perhaps
not
saying
that
they
have.
We
have
to
have
this.
The
exact
same
design
at
every
spot
along
the
avenue,
specifically
you
know
when
you
look
at
the
the
big
belly
you
know
advocating
for
having
having
how
many,
how
many
total
was
it.
E
There's
40,
something
having
40
something
big
bellies
up
and
down
the
avenue
does
not
sound
very
fiscally
responsible.
However,
I
think
it
wouldn't.
It
wouldn't
be
a
too
too
difficult
of
a
study
asking
mercology
who's
picking
this
up.
If
there
are
particular
locations
that
tend
to
overflow
really
really
rapidly
and
and
perhaps
just
get
a
hand,
a
small
handful
of
big
bellies
just
for
those
locations,
since
they
can
handle
so
much
more
capacity,
and
you
know
with
compaction,
and
all
of
that
you
know
it
wouldn't
be
it
wouldn't
be.
E
E
I
had
sent
the
question
in
advance
a
similar
question
to
what
our
vice
mayor
asked
about
the
the
numbers
of
newspaper
racks,
and
the
response
was
that
you
know
that
in
some
locations
there's
there's
more
newspapers
are
putting
their
putting
their
publications
there
and
some
it's
less
so
we
can
coordinate
with
them
to
you
know,
try
to
reduce
the
number
of
empty
ones,
as
as
the
vice
mayor
said,
I
would
be
in
favor
of
that.
E
Regarding
the
enclosures,
I,
like
all
the
designs
there
too,
not
knowing
what
the
additional
cost
would
be
for
a
custom
pattern.
It
would
be,
you
know
it
would
be
kind
of
cool
to
have
something
san
bruno
e,
you
know
something
incorporating
a
large
heart
or
something
like
that
in
the
in
the
design
you
know
might
be,
might
be
aesthetically
pleasing
for
downtown,
but
it
would
depend
on
the
cost,
but
you
know
any
of
the
any
of
the
designs
that
we
see
there.
I
like
that.
E
I
especially
like
the
the
one
that
looked
like
trees,
but
it
looks
like
milbury's
doing
that
once
maybe
we
don't
want
a
coffee,
but
who
knows
then?
Lastly,
the
I
I
do
like
the
idea
of
you
know,
so
this
is
so
I
guess
this
is
the
first
actual
question
the.
If
we're
going
to
do
two
cans,
will
the
recycling
can
always
have
the
small
lid
on
no
matter
which
of
the
options
that
we
choose?
It
would
have
the
small
opening
for
the
recycling.
B
We
can
go
with
that
format.
The
benefit
of
going
with
that
format
is
that
there's
some
uniformity
and
there's
a
visual
denotation
that
this
one
is
just
for
recycling.
In
addition
to
the
words
that
would
be
placed
there,
but
it's
an
option.
E
Yeah
and
I
would
recommend
as
well
so
I
I
would-
I
would
recommend
that,
because
that's
you
know
that
is
typical
for
a
recycling
bin
that
it's
you
know
it's
a
small
opening
to
discourage
people
from
shoving
large
things
in
there
that
don't
belong
in
there,
and
I
would
also
recommend
that
any
any
with
any
design.
We
choose
that
if
the,
if,
if
the
entire
fixture
can't
be
the
recycling
blue,
then
at
least
there'd
be
some
component
on
there.
That's
the
recycling
glue.
E
That's
that
visual
cue
for
for
people
to
put
their
things
in
the
right
place.
Excuse
me
my
last.
My
last
comment
is,
but
it
might
be
out
of
scope,
but
but
it's
it's
certainly
related,
and
I
don't
know
I
don't
know
exactly
what
we
can
do
about
it,
but
it
it
is
a
concern
I
have
observed
on
many
many
occasions:
business
owners
walking
their
garbage
out
to
these
camps
and
not
not
utilizing
their
own,
their
own
trash
pickups,
and
I
don't
know
what
can
be
done
about
that.
A
Thank
you
other
questions
or
comments
from
my
colleagues
and
if
anybody
from
the
public
wishes
to
speak,
if
you
could
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
go
to
right
now,
council,
member
salazar.
F
Thank
you,
sir.
So
I
have
my
question
is
about
the
the
garbage
cans
that
were
placed
at
what
used
to
be
posey
park
and
the
ones
that
we
have
in
front
of
the
rec
center
were
those
deemed
to
be
cost
prohibitive
or
it
seems
like
the
material
is
pretty
sturdy.
F
Probably
more
sturdy
than
steel
would
stand
the
weather
a
lot
better
on
a
few
clean
sweep
events
and
I
was
assigned
to
go
downtown
and
paint
the
old
garbage
cans
and
a
coat
of
paint
was
it
was
it
wasn't
covering
it?
I
mean
they
were
just
so
rusty
and
dented
and
broken
that
you
know
it
seems
like
steel,
it
it's
not.
F
You
know
it
may
be
good
for
a
while,
but
for
the
long
haul
it
seems
like
the
the
concrete
type
material
seems
to
be
perhaps
more
sturdy,
and
I
like
the
way
those
were
molded
with
the
city
logo
on
them.
So
they
look.
They
look
really
nice.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
those
were
not
considered
at
all
for
this
next
phase.
C
All
right,
so
we
did
use
a
lot
of
those,
as
you
mentioned,
custom,
salazar
and
like
the
park
settings
and
those
are
concrete.
As
you
mentioned
material,
and
I
think
I
can't
remember
the
cost
right
now-
it
could
be
about
two
thousand
dollars
or
twenty
five
hundred
dollars
for
for
both
or
it
could
be
a
little
bit
less.
I
know
that
you
know
we
purchased
several
of
them
through
the
the
cal
recycle
grant
that
we
received
you
know,
and
so
you
know
that
is
an
option.
C
You
know
if
you
know
on
the
table
too,
but
I
think
we
didn't
consider
that,
because
you
know
being
you
know,
kind
of
in
other
downtown
areas,
majority
of
the
downtowns
you
know
have
used
steel
and,
and
then
you
know
those
the
ones
in
the
that
we
use
at
posey
park
and
as
well
as
the
the
the
rec
center
are,
you
know
more
of
a
park
setting,
so
we
decided
that
you
know
we
kind
of
we
decided
to
use
those
there
instead.
F
F
You
know
clearly
that
it's
you're
getting
a
better
bargain,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
and
again
you
know,
looking
at
the
condition
of
the
ones
we
have,
the
the
concrete
portion
of
the
old
existing
garbage
cans
seems
to
be
pretty
sturdy
versus
the
the
steel
doors
and
the
tops
which
tend
to
get
dented
scratched,
rusted
and
everything
else.
So
I
mean
any
idea
in
the
longevity
of
the
materials.
C
Yeah,
you
know,
I
would
say
you
know,
I
agree
with
you
that
this
concrete
would
definitely
last
longer.
You
know
over
time,
because
you
know
it's
it's
more
durable
than
steel
and
I
just
don't
know
how
long
the
steel
no
receptacles
will
last,
because
I
don't
have
much
of
an
experience
and
I
can
maybe
that's.
I
can
ask
other
agencies
to
see
you
know
how
often
they
actually,
you
know,
have
to
go
out
there
and
replace
the
receptacles.
I
can
no.
C
I
can
do
that
and
then
the
concrete
ones
that
we
have
you
know
at
the
park
we've
just
just
started
using,
but
it
still
looks
like
it's
in
a
great
you
know,
shape
so
far.
F
Okay,
all
right
and
then
just
one
comment
regarding
the
the
big
bellies
I
I
know
that
they
generally
have
more
of
an
application
in
areas
that
don't
have
regular
pickups,
and
so
the
advantage
is
that
you
let
them
fill
up
until
they
need
to
be
emptied,
and
then
somebody
gets
dispatched
to
do
it.
In
this
case,
where
we
have
regular
daily
pickups,
it
doesn't
really
make
any
sense,
because
even
if
you're
sending
out
alerts
you're
not
going
to
pick
up
more
than
once,
that
really
wouldn't
make
sense.
F
So
I
know
that
they
found
some
good
applications
in
rural
rural
areas,
parks
that
you
know
that,
perhaps
you
know
ranger
is
responsible
for
picking
up
trash
there,
and
so
they
wouldn't
have
to
go
out
there
on
a
regular
basis.
They
would
wait
for
the
for
the
signal
to
come
in
and
then
they
would
go
out
and
empty
the
trash.
So
I
don't
think
that
they
would
make
sense
in
this
situation.
A
Okay,
vice
mayor,
I
know
you're
up
next,
but
I
wanted
to
allow
council
member
mason,
since
she
hasn't
had
an
opportunity
yet
hear
from
her.
Then
I'll
double
check
to
see
if
there's
anybody
from
the
public
and
then
come
back
counselor.
G
Thank
you
I
I
don't
know,
should
I
just
ask
all
the
questions
at
one
time
sure
please
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
clarity,
and
maybe
I
just
missed
it,
but
I
know
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
we
talked
about
how
the
streetscape
plan
recommended
stain
the
stainless
steel,
I'm
just
I'm
not
stuck
on
stainless
steel.
I'm
just
curious
to
know
why
I
wave
eared
from
stainless
steel.
It's
the
first
question.
G
G
The
third
question
is,
and
vice
mayor
medina
kind
of
touched
on
it,
but
I
think
director
tan,
you
responded
as
far
as
the
servicing
of
the
trash
cans.
My
understanding,
in
speaking
with
a
neighboring
city,
is
that
their
one
of
their
city
departments
actually
takes
the
garbage
cans
every
two
weeks
and
actually
power
washes
them
and
it
keeps
them
clean,
and
then
it
makes
sure
that
obviously
they're
maintained
and
the
longevity
is
better
and
they
look
they
look
cleaner.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
I
follow
up
on
that
question.
G
To
ask,
are:
is
our
city
staff
is
your
college?
Is
anybody
actually
taking
those
garbage
cans
and
power,
washing
them
outside
of
just
the
ecology,
picking
up
the
garbage
on
a
daily
basis,
and
then
my
next
one
is
just
really
a
suggestion
and
really
thinking
outside
the
box
for
the
magazine
stands.
So
in
the
staff
report
it
said
that
there
were
five
magazine
stands
and
it
looks
like
the
encroachment.
We
only
really
need
if
it's
facing
the
street,
but
the
ones
facing
the
wall
may
not
be
needed.
G
I
don't
know
how
necessary
it
is,
since
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
see
the
the
work
you
know
on
the
in
the
back,
but
I
guess
my
question
is:
can
we
just
rethink
the
way
that
we
have
magazine
stands?
I
know
in
san
bruno
really
it's
popular
now.
I
think
it's
it'll
be
popular
later,
but
it's
actually
just
building
our
own
little
almost
like
little
libraries.
G
G
You
know
customized
almost
like
I'm
using
a
little
library
as
a
reference,
but
a
wooden
box,
and
we
could
do
that
for
definitely
the
the
ones
that
aren't
for
that
are
free,
because
the
ones,
obviously
that
aren't
free,
you
have
to
use
a
magazine
stand
but
anyway
just
a
suggestion-
and
I
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
our
staff
could
build
them.
I
know
the
ones
I've
seen
around
the
city.
We've
volunteers
have
been
building
them
and
then
my
last
question
is
just.
I
believe
that
councilmember
hamilton
may
have
already
mentioned
it.
G
But
do
we
need
the
five
magazine
stands?
I
mean?
How
many
do
we
need
or
do
we
need
them
in
the
locations
they're
at
so
maybe,
instead
of
maybe
we
could
keep
the
five,
but
we
put
one
in
you
know
near
the
near
centennial
park
or
near
posey
park
where
someone
could
sit
down
and
we
encourage
you
know
people
sit
down
and
read
a
magazine
and
use
those
benches.
So
just
a
just
a
suggestion.
G
I
know
I
should
say:
there's
one
in
front
of
centennial
park
now,
because
west
coast
cafe
is
there,
but
maybe
one
in
front
of
like
posey
park,
so
just
some
thoughts
and
questions.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
do
my
best
here
to
try
to
answer
all
their
questions:
councilmember
mason,
the
first
one
you
mentioned.
Why
do
we
veer
away
from
the
stainless
steel?
You
know
trash
receptacles
from
the
the
three
skate
plan.
We
thought
that
you
know.
After
talking
to
our
maintenance
personnel,
we
believe
that
you
know
stainless
steel.
You
know
if
people
you
know
start
throwing
trash
into
the
receptacles.
Sometimes
they
you
know
maybe
tend
to
fall
out
or
they
miss
and
it
could
stain
the
you
know
the
exterior
of
that.
C
So
there
would
be
more
maintenance
involved,
probably
more
power
washing.
That
needs
to
be
done.
You
know
to
the
the
stainless
steel
in
order
to
get
the
you
know
the
the
dirt
out,
so
we
thought
you
know
having
a
block,
you
know
receptacles
and
would
be
a
little
bit
easier.
Aesthetically,
you
know
not
have
to
do
as
much
maintenance
as
that's
required
for
stainless
steel.
So
that's
my
response
to
that
regards
to
these
secret
buts.
Currently,
right
now,
you
know
you
know
none
of
the
options
presented.
C
Haven't
you
know
the
secret
but
option,
but
you
know
if
that
you
know
that's
an
interesting.
It's
something
that
the
city
and
the
staff
can
look
into
to
see
whether
any
of
the
stuff
goes
actually
provides
any
options
to
include
some
sticker
butts
or
not.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
look
into
as
well
see
servicing
the
trash
cans
for
car
washing.
You
know
I
can
talk
to
our
staff.
C
I
don't
believe
that
you
know
staff
are
actually
taking
the
garbage,
can
you
know
out
and
then
and
and
then
power
washing
the
garbage
cans
and
then
bringing
it
back
to
the
other
side?
That's
not
being
done.
C
I
don't
think
ecology
is
doing
that
as
well,
because
they're
just
picking
up
the
garbage
and
then
they're
just
you
know
you
know
servicing
that
the
waste
for
the
city,
so
so
I
think
I
can
talk
to
the
staff
a
little
more
to
see
whether
you
know
that's
being
done
or
not
magazine
stands.
You
know,
I
think,
and
there's
plenty
of
options
that
are
available,
but
most
of
the
ones
that
we've
seen
are
metal
and
that's
what
a
lot
of
the
agencies
are
using.
C
But
if
there's
an
interest
to
have
wooden
boxes,
you
know
in
certain
locations.
You
know
that's
something
that
can
be
looking
looked
at,
but
not
yeah.
I
just
don't
know
we'll
probably
have
to
have
somebody
that
actually,
you
know
makes
it
for
the
city.
It
depends
on
the
design
as
well.
So
we
have
to
you
know,
there's
more
evaluation.
That
needs
to
be
done.
C
If
there's
an
interest
to
look
at
other
types
of
boxes,
you
know
for
the
magazines
stands
and
the
locations
you
know
you
mentioned
about
whether
you
know
we
need
magazine
stands
at.
You
know
other
locations,
that's
some!
That's
something
that
we
can
evaluate
right
now,
because
you
know,
as
I
you
know
mentioned
a
little
bit
earlier,
there's
a
lot
of
locations
that
have
empty
boxes
right
now.
C
So
maybe,
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
combine
them
and
yeah,
you
know
you
put
one
in
posey
park
as
we
mentioned
that
we
don't
currently
have
one.
I
know
that
centennial
park
with
west
coast,
cafe
being
close
by
you
know
there
have
there's
two
boxes
there
and
you
know
we
will
definitely
have
to
die
with
each
individual
locations
again
before
we
proceed
with
the
replacement.
G
Okay
and
then
just
as
a
follow-up,
and
I
want
to
be
clear-
I'm
not
trying
to
create
more
work.
No,
we
don't.
I
don't
think
we
need
more
magazine
racks.
I
think
it's
just
I'm.
What
I'm
just
suggesting
is
either
condense
them
or
look
at
where
they
are,
and
maybe
you
know
where
would
be
the
nice
location
to
have
them
or
the,
where
they're
going
to
be
maximized
right
yeah.
G
So
thank
you
and
then
one
just
one
last
note
I
just
had
I
guess,
as
we're
thinking
like
towards
implementing
the
streetscape
plan.
We
don't
have
design
guidelines
necessarily,
but
I'm
looking
at
like
the
aperture
building
and
then
how
artichoke
joes.
I
think
that
the
update
that
they're
doing
to
their
building
kind
of
matches
the
aperture
in
some
ways
from
I
remember
when
I
was
on
the
planning
commission
and
then
on
111
huntington.
They
have
some
wood
in
their
design.
G
B
Sure
I
would
say
absolutely
but
more
importantly,
what
our
future
street
furniture
and
streetscape
will
look
like,
because
we
are
setting
the
tone
through
this
acquisition
and
installation
on
whatever
design
we
pick
because
we're
gonna
want
complimentary
street
furniture,
be
they
replacing
the
light
poles
at
some
point,
adding
street
benches
or
other
bicycle
racks
to
be
complimentary
and
and
director
cam
is
exactly
right.
B
We
went
away
from
stainless
steel
because
we
wanted
a
darker
color,
not
necessarily
black,
due
to
the
a
decreased
maintenance
and
concern
about
graffiti
on
stainless
steel
and
constantly
having
to
clean
that
council
member,
you
did
mention
a
couple
other
things
that
I
wanted
to
address.
One
was
the
enclosure.
B
Absolutely
when
a
newspaper
rack
faces
the
building,
we
would
potentially
just
do
an
enclosure
on
either
side,
not
necessarily
waste
resources
and
put
an
enclosure
at
the
back
with
regard
to
a
wooden
newspaper
or
magazine,
rack
or
other
varying
racks.
One
of
the
concepts
was
really
to
decrease
the
clutter
and
have
one
stand:
that's
bounded
by
the
enclosure.
B
It's
also
important
to
note
that
the
newspaper
wraps
whether
they
are
free
or
paid
actually
have
free
speech
protection
and
we
have
to
provide
a
reasonable
access.
And
so
when
we
look
at
decreasing
the
number
of
rat
of
newspaper
sort
of
individual
boxes,
we
may
have
one.
That
is
a
eight
game
box,
but
only
four
are
taken.
We
may
not
want
to
just
make
that
four,
because
if
someone
else
comes
along,
they
may
have
the
ability
to
put
their
plastic
or
whatever
their
stand,
looks
like
right
next
to
ours.
So
we
want
to.
B
We
may
want
to
allow
for
some
flexibility,
but
certainly
it
seems
like
we
have
too
many
out
there
and
we
can
go
through
the
process
of
decreasing,
but
part
of
the
plan,
especially
because
our
sidewalks
are
relatively
narrow,
was
to
have
sort
of
a
decrease
in
street
furniture
and
and
contain
the
newspaper
stands
in
sort
of
one
area
versus
having
sort
of
very
I'm
sure,
you've
seen
them
elsewhere.
Where
there's
one
stand
and
then
there
may
be
a
number
of
other
individual
stamps
next
door
to
that.
A
D
Yes,
thank
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
so
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
some
of
the
other
comments
from
my
colleagues.
D
Whatever
grants,
we
can
get,
of
course
that's
a
high
priority
and-
and
I
I'm
sure
staff
is
really
good
at
that,
as
has
been
exhibited
of
late
the
option,
if
not
to
have
cigarette
butts,
incorporated
or
cups
or
containers
in
within
the
the
garbage
container,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
people
that
smoked
and
that
are
just
throwing
their
cigarette
butts
in
on
the
gutter.
D
It's
just
that's
where
that's
where
they
finally
wind
up
and
if
we
could
ask
staff
to
also
look
into
some
additional
cigarette
but
containers,
I
know
there's
one
kind
of
over
by
knowles
and
starbucks
and
then
one
over
at
artichoke
joe's.
So
if,
if
we're
gonna
do
a
little
bit
looking
around,
if
we
can
maybe
see
something
that
wouldn't
take
too
much
time
to
see
what's
available
to
put
those
out
so
that
people
hopefully
will
will
not
throw
them
in
the
gutter,
I
I
believe
the
cost
on
the
big
belly.
D
So,
as
council
member
hamilton
said
having
a
few
and
and
some
locations
that
are
heavily
used,
and
maybe
we'll
see
how
that
that
goes,
I
I
I
know
that
mayor
medina
and
I
asked
to
see
if
maybe
starbucks
would
be
willing
to
to
pay
for
a
big
belly
by
their
store,
since
since
they're
they
generate
a
lot
of
disposable
cups.
D
So
those
those
are
my
things
of
what
I've
heard
from
from
my
colleagues
and
again,
thank
you.
This
is
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction
and,
as
councilman
councilmember
hamilton
said,
we
don't
need
we
could.
We
can
pursue
this
a
la
carte
of
what
we
can
afford
and
making
these
improvements
and
and
looking
forward
to
this
discussion
in
further
depth
during
our
priority
session
and
meeting
this
upcoming
weekend.
So
thank
you
all
for
for
your
attention.
A
A
few
things
for
myself
is
that
the
streetscapes
plan
and
city
manager
can
correct
me,
but
it
was
adopted
in
a
phased
element
and
it
was
phased
out
because
of
that
that
factor,
so
you
could
do
phase
one
phase,
two
phase:
three.
There
was
a
dollar
amount
of
set
side
because,
obviously
not
it
all
could
not
be
done
at
once.
So
this
is
what
that
plan
was
adopted
and
what
it
is
doing
on
the
posey
park,
the
picture
the
city
manager
showed
us.
A
A
My
concern
again
for
the
recycling
is
it's
contaminated
and
we
know
that
that's
been
a
high
cost
that
has
occurred
for
our
city
is
when
they're
going
to
people's
homes
and
they've
contaminated
the
recycling,
and
that
is
what
is
up
the
price
to
our
contracts.
The
other
thing
is
on
the
cigarette
butts.
A
I
see
them
on
the
polls
and
I
think,
maybe
maybe
they're
more
eye
level,
not
sure
if
they
see
them
but
connecting
a
cigarette
butt
next
to
the
trash
receptacle
or
you
know,
I
don't
know,
I
think
smoldering
heat
next
to
the
crash
could
be
good
batter,
but
if
it
doesn't
make
it
into
the
right
spot,
we've
got
a
we've
got
a
can
fire.
Potentially
I
I
share
some
of
the
same
issues
of
do.
We
need
all
the
newspaper
racks.
A
You
know
we
have
to
have
them,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
you
know
maybe
at
the
time
that
we're
doing
that
unless
we've
already
gone
through
it.
Maybe
we
review
we're
owning
them
and
we're
responsible
where
before
it
was
the
other
way
around,
and
if
we
cited
it
it's
supposed
to
come
down,
it
has
to
be
held
for
so
long
because
we
didn't
purchase
it.
A
So
I
would
think
if
we
change
that
that
we
have
them
in
the
rest
of
the
community,
do
we
need
to
modify
our
ordinance,
our
municipal
code,
for
that
I
think
lids
are
important.
I'm
worried
about
durability,
so
you
know
like
the
ones
at
posey
park.
How
are
they
held
up
and
durable?
Does
the
crew
see
that
it's
contaminated
in
the
recycling?
A
Do
they
take
care
of
the
recycling
or
is
that
ecology
over
glenview
earl
are
those
you
know
hasn't
been
a
long
time,
but
how
are
they
holding
up
one
thing
that
former
vice
mayor
I
bear
and
I
had
done
when
we
went
to
go
new
lights
in
san
mateo
avenue.
We
picked
a
few
spots
where
the
wind
factor
came
to
make
sure
they
had
durability
and
they
could
last
because
that
was
the
the
problem
with
the
initial
ones.
A
Is
the
the
wind
and
the
elements
out
there
got
to
them?
So
I
know
you've
heard
a
lot
from
us
and
you
know
mr
hamilton
had
talked
about.
A
Maybe
if
it's
not
too,
if
it's
not
too
out
of
line
with
price,
maybe
you
have
a
little
something
unique
to
san
bruno
on
its
side
for
the
newspaper
racks,
but
again,
if
it's
cost
prohibitive,
then
then
I
I
get
it
so
city
manager,
any
final
thoughts,
comments
or
feedback.
B
Yeah,
yes,
so
I'm
gonna
try
and
push
the
city
council
to
give
us
a
little
bit
clearer
direction,
because
there
have
been
a
lot
of
comments
and
questions,
and
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
a
a
a
very
long
project
to
study
and
test
and
the
the
pilot
trash
can
that's
insane.
B
That's
out
in
front
of
starbucks
has
been
there,
I
think,
almost
over
two
and
a
half
years,
and
so
what
I
don't
want
us
to
do
is
to
not
get
leave
here
with
clear
direction
and
we're
going
on
a
bit
of
a
analysis
to
analyze
the
durability
of
all
the
the
nine
cans
that
that
we
proposed
and
and
coming
back
with
a
what,
what
a
host
of
of
answers
and
then
potentially
have
more
questions.
B
What
we
had
hoped
was
to
sort
of
narrow
down
to,
if
not
a
trash
receptacle,
a
one
or
two
trash
receptacles
come
back
to
the
city
council
during
budget
time,
with
our
analysis
on
how
we
would
fund
it
and
then
run
as
fast
as
we
can
towards
implementation.
A
Yeah,
should
you
put
up
slide
number
seven
receptacle
options.
It
gives
nine
at
a
visual
together
and
that
would
be
excellent.
B
And
so
let's,
let's
take
and
let's
do
full
screen
and.
B
Of
number,
one
is
what
we
have
in
front
of
starbucks
number
and
number
two
is
very
similar
to
that
and
number
two
comes
with
the
lid.
I
think
we've
articulated
the
challenges
and
we
frankly
see
the
challenges
with
number
one
in
our
community,
and
so
why
don't?
I
pose
a
question
of
counsel
options.
One
or
two
are
you
are
any
of
you
interested
in
us
pursuing
that
model
further.
A
Yeah,
you
know,
and
I
really
can't
see
everybody.
Okay,
I
can
see
mr
hamilton.
Thank
you,
sir.
That
helps.
I
don't
know
it
does:
okay,
I'm
just
broadening
this
screen.
If
there's
anybody
thumbs
up
for
one
and
two
just
go
ahead
and
put
your
so
I
can
see
it
in
the
screen.
The
city
manager
can
okay.
B
And
so
now
to
options
three
four
and
five,
which
are
which
are
similar
in
that
they
have
slacks,
albeit
you
know,
maybe
a
nice
aesthetic
design
but
may
have
some
of
the
challenges
that
we've
experienced
with
with
number
one,
and
I
believe
that
all
of
these
we
can
get
in
a
recycling
model
that
has
a
different
size
top.
So,
let's
not
let
that
be
the
deciding
factor
and
they
come
in
multiple
colors.
B
But
is
there
anything
about
options?
Three,
four
and
five
that
the
council
would
like
to
consider.
A
I
can
tell
you
I
don't
care
for
three
with
that
flat,
because
I
think
people
will
use
it.
As
for
a
cup
holder,
I
think
they'll
sit
on
it,
and
so
I
like
it
where
it's
more
curved,
so
I'm
I'm
not
a
fan
of
three.
The
way
that
is
looks
and
is
for
me.
E
I
liked
some
of
these
until
I
heard
the
concern
about
the
trash
getting
stuck
in
the
slats,
which
makes
perfect
sense
and
not
something
that
I
considered
until
I
heard
that.
So
I'm
not
a
big
fan
of
any
of
them
because
of
that
because
of
the
the
maintenance
and
and
how
we'll
end
up
looking
over
time.
F
F
F
B
And
I
think
what
happens
more
often
than
trash
being
stuck
in
the
slots
is
when
the
top
comes
off
and
the
the
interior
can
is
empty.
There's
waste
that
falls
in
the
interior
and
because
there
are
slats,
you
can
see
that
the
waste,
and
so
it's
a
maintenance
issue
which
we
know
we
have
a
challenge
with
that
level
of
maintenance.
Now,
given
us
that.
F
G
I
I
I
don't
like
any
of
the
ones
with
covers.
I
just
feel
like
I've
seen
way
too
many
garbage
cans
overflow
at
this
point,
but
I
also
like
five-
and
I
would
just
say
three-
I'm
not
really
a
fan
of
the
design
of
three,
but
if
we're
gonna
have
the
magazine
encouragement,
it
actually
reminds
me
as
if
they're
matching
a
little
bit,
but
I
don't
know
it's
kind
of
weird,
but
but
my
I
would
pick
five
of
the
first
five,
but
with
no
top.
A
I
would
pick
five
I'm
still
feeling
at
top,
but
but
out
of
those
three
choices,
five
is
the
only.
E
One
that
I
would
think,
okay,
I
think,
the
the
the
top
is
you
get
I
I
agree.
Councilmember
mason
with
with
you
know
the
problems
that
we
have
with
overflowing,
but
without
the
top
the
rain
gets
in
them
as
well
yeah
and
it's
just
and
it
just
gets
really
gross
in
there.
Yeah.
A
D
Yeah
five
would
be
would
be
my
second
choice.
We
haven't
got
to
my
first
choice
and
I
would
like
to
to
not
just
give
one,
because
if
oh
no
he's
asking
for
a
few
yeah
okay,
so
it
would
be
five
of
the
first
five
and
it
has
to
have
a
top.
Otherwise
the
rain
gets
in
there
and
it
just
gets
extra,
heavy
and
and
nasty.
D
A
So
I've
kind
of
heard
from
everybody
out
of
one
through
five,
I'm
seeing
that
five
has
made
it
to
the
next
round
and
now
we're
gonna
move
to
six
through
nine
and
city
manager.
You're
doing
it
so
well,
do
you
want
to
do
six,
seven,
eight,
or
do
you
want
to
do
them
all,
or
how
do
you
want
to
break
that?
One
up.
B
Eight
because
I
know
number
nine:
if
council
wants
to
go
there,
it's
only
in
a
few
locations,
so
six,
seven
and
eight
again,
seven
and
eight
are
versions
of
the
same.
Can
that
we
have
at
earl
blind
view.
Eight
is
wood
which
is
different
from
all
of
them.
B
E
I
I
had
like
initially
the
look
of
eight
and
then
my
immediately
I
went
to
that
seems
really
easy
to
deface
with
graffiti,
which
is
a
shame,
though,
that
has
to
be
a
number
one
concern,
but
I
I
don't
think
eight
would
last
long.
The
six
is
this
is
gonna.
Sound.
Weird
six
is
is
probably
one
of
the
least
aesthetically
pleasing
of
all
the
options,
but
it
seems
sturdy
and
it
seems
practical.
E
It
seems
it's
got
a
door.
It's.
It
seems
like
something
that's
going
to
stand
up
to
the
rigors
of
san
mateo
avenue.
So
that's
that's
the
one
that
I'm
kind
of
gravitating
towards
the
gravitating
toward
in
this.
In
this
set.
G
So
I
think
even
just
going
into
this,
I
I
really
liked
five,
eight
and
nine,
but
I
eight
I
just
I'm
looking
at
the
report
on
I
mean
for
twelve
hundred
dollars
each
can
we
maybe
just
double
check
and
make
sure
they
haven't
already
thought
of
graffiti
I
mean,
maybe
maybe
there's
there's
got
to
be
something
because
I
thought
the
same
thing
was.
How
are
we
going
to
get
the
graffiti
off
the
wood,
but
maybe
I
don't
know
maybe
there's
some
something
on
it.
That's
resistant
or
easy
to
clean.
B
So
certainly
we
can
look
into
that.
One
of
the
things
I
was
articulating
was
sort
of
graffiti
in
the
sense
of
etching,
something
in
like
you
see
on
trees,
right
people
carve
into
the
wood.
D
Yeah,
I
mean
the
problem
with
number
six:
you
have
62
62
pounds
of
steel
compared
to
number
seven
with
192
pounds,
so
it's
probably
really
thin
walled,
so
it
it
looks
short
and
stocky
and
tough,
but
probably
not
gonna
hold
up.
I
would
go
with
seven.
Eight
would
be
great
in
a
park
because
with
the
wood
there
are
not
enough
trees
in
our
downtown.
So
it's
really
going
to
stand
out
kind
of
funky
like
a
short
thumb
and
we'll
get
to
nine
later.
F
I
think
I
agree
with
tom.
You
know
six
isn't
gorgeous,
but
it
does
seem
very
practical
compared
to
the
others.
Eight
is
probably
the
most
attractive,
but
the
maintenance
concerns
are
definitely
an
issue
and
it
seems
like
number
six
too
it.
The
opening
is
a
little
smaller
than
the
other
ones,
and
so
that
that
would
help
actually
with
the
the
dumping.
F
So
you
we're
not
gonna
you're,
not
as
likely
to
have
people
bring
their
their
trash
from
from
home
or
from
a
business
and
try
to
stuff
it
through
one
of
those
slots.
So
you
might
have
less
of
a
problem
with
with
that,
but
yeah.
I
guess
the
the
material
would
be
a
concern
if
it's
not
as
as
sturdy.
I
I
I
didn't
pay
attention
to
the
weights
like
like
marty
did,
but
that
that's
definitely
a
concern
as
well.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
hold
up.
A
I
was
gonna
say
aesthetically
eight
I
like,
but
I
do
have
that
concern
as
far
as
just
it's
being
vandalized
to
some
capacity,
and
so
that
is
a
major
concern,
though
I
kind
of
like
the
imagery
seven
looks
very
similar
too,
but
it
just
to
my
eye.
It
doesn't
allow
me
not
that
I
need
to
be
wowed
by
a
garbage
can,
but.
F
A
Just
doesn't
seem
to
be
as
just
doesn't
stand
out.
A
Six
I
I
do
do
have
some
likes
about
it
because
of
what
councilmember
hamilton
said,
but
I
appreciate
the
vice
mayor
as
that
their
ability
is
going
to
to
matter
and
count
the
longevity,
so
you're
kind
of
so
what
you've
done
city
manager
is
you've
got
us
all
on
one
on
the
top
line,
but
we're
kind
of
going
around
a
little
bit
on
the
bottom
line,
but
I
think
eight
comes
back
to
us
as
far
as
vandalism
withstand
withholds
olds,
etc.
A
I
think
six
we've
been
asked
just
about
the
weight
and
the
durability.
Does
anybody
want
to
see
seven
even
looked
at
I've
seen
one
no
two.
E
Knows
yeah,
I
would
say
no
on
seven,
I
I
would
I
didn't
cons.
I
didn't
honestly
didn't
even
notice
the
weight,
the
overall
weight
of
six,
and
so
I
I
would.
I
would
like
it
to
still
be
in
consideration,
but
I
would
I
would
advise
staff
to
yeah.
E
You
know
if
there,
if
there's
any,
if
there's
any
physical
examples
of
them
nearby
we're
gonna
go
look
at
one
in
real
life
to
see
if
it
if
it
is,
if
it
is
sturdy
or
not
because
yeah
I'm
concerned
with
the
vice
president,
brought
up
some
good
points
there
that
you
know
if
those
are
thin
walled.
You
know
one
good
kick
in
the
side.
Could
you
know
tend
to
dent
it
in
if
it's
not
if
it's
not
very
thick,
so
if
it
is
sturdy,
I
still
like
six.
A
D
Perhaps
they
have
a
a
heavy
duty
version
of
that.
If
you
look
at
the
cost
at
620,
you
know
it's
it's
way,
underpriced
compared
to
the
other
one.
So
it's
probably
pretty
flimsy.
You
know.
Price
generally
goes
with
with
quality,
so
I
did
think
that
the
one
number
seven,
which
is
that
glenn
view
currently,
I
think
it's
okay,
but.
D
I
I'm
not
I'd
I'm
not.
If
we
can
find
a
number
six,
that's
sturdier,
then
then
I
think
I'm
hoping
that
they
would
make
it
like
that.
So,
let's
see,
let's
see
what
staff
says
when
they
do
a
little
more
work
on
it.
A
And
I
did
go
to
glenview
earl
park
and
those
look
fine
and
they
seem
but
again
they're
not
getting
that
the
usage
as
the
san
mateo
avenue.
Would
we
know
that
so
manager
did
that
help
you
at
all,
or
did
that
just
give
you
now
four
garbage
can.
B
So,
let's
summarize
five,
yes,
council
likes
the
aesthetics
of
six
but
concern
that
the
cost
of
being
the
second
lowest
and
the
weight
may
equate
to
not
being
as
sturdy
a
universal
life
of
the
aesthetics
of
eight
but
concern
about
maintenance
and
dirt
and
of
the
wood,
primarily
seven,
which
is
that
earl
glenview
just
sort
of
not
wowing
anyone.
What
I'll
say
about
seven
and
eight
is
as
far
as
sort
of
weight
and
the
gauge
of
the
steel.
B
They
appear
to
be
some
of
the
strongest
of
those
that
we're
showing
and
so
eight
and
seven
have
the
same
sort
of
thick
gauge
seal
and
weigh
the
most
or
seven
and
eight.
We
can
take
a
look
at
a
version
of
six
and
try
and
find
something
similar
and
certainly
five,
and
then
we'll
ask
the
questions
about
it,
because
we
certainly
understand
that
council
likes
80..
Now.
Let
me
actually
ask
this
question
because,
while
we're
looking
at
the
wood-
and
we
know
it's
wood,
it
does
come
in
various
paint
options.
B
E
A
Yeah,
I
I
think
city
manager,
I
I
don't
think
people
dislike
seven
and
I
was
one
that
said
something,
but
it
just
it
just
looks
like
it's
there
and
and
maybe
it
all
it
didn't
look
so
bad
at
home
in
glenview.
But
but
I
think,
you're
correct
in
your
assessment
about
the
two
tone
I
think
is
maybe
appealing
to
some
folks,
councilmember
mason
or
salazar.
G
To
the
mayor,
if
possible,
if
the
whoever's
making
these,
if
they
could,
let
us
know
where
eight
maybe
is,
we
can
take
a
look
just
to
see
how
it's
standing
up
or
you
know
if
it's
been
a
year
or
so
I
don't
know
just
a
suggestion,
because
I
I'm
I
do
really
like
eight.
I
just
I'm
curious
to
know
how
it's
going
to
look
in
five
years.
F
No,
not
really
I
mean
it
is,
it
is
nice
looking
so
and
we
do
want
to
have
a
few
options.
So,
let's
see,
if
there's
a
some
some
evidence
out
there,
that
it
could
work
for
us.
B
So
what
I
think
I
heard
about
nine
is
in
high
traffic
high
waist
areas.
I
think
we
all
universally
agree
that
could
be
near
starbucks
and
I
think
the
question
is
what
other
areas
are
sort
of
high
traffic,
potentially
here
at
the
corner
of
angus
and
san
mateo
lab
rings,
avail
near
grand
leader
and
marimar
and
we
can
look
for
other
locations.
But
I
I
believe
what
I've
heard
from
the
city
council
is
look
at
a
big
belly
option
in
high
traffic
areas,
or
I
heard
that
from
some
I'm
not
sure.
B
If
there's
a
majority
of
support
for
that
cost
is,
of
course
you
know
rough
as
shown
roughly
four
thousand
dollars,
but
given
that
we
service
five
days
a
week
and
given
that
I
think
we've
heard
that
there
is
overflowing
or
high
levels
of
garbage
on
the
weekend
and
those
high
traffic
areas.
This
is
one
option
that
we
can
certainly
consider.
A
So
I
think
you
had
council
willing
to
look
into
some
in
strategically
placed
locations
that
would
be
of
value
to
keep.
You
know
things
cleaner
and
communities
needs,
and
one
thing
I
am
going
to
say
too
is
I
you
know:
do
we
do
we
need
as
many
garbage
cans
as
we
have
currently
you
know
so
it
can
it
be
reduced
by
two
or
four
or
five.
You
know,
I'm
not
the
expert
on
that
and
then
again
you
want
one
recyclable,
each
one
of
them.
A
So
that's
doubling
what
we
have
currently
because
right
now
we
have
a
garbage.
Can
so
just
want
to
be
mindful
of
that?
Do
we
need
recyclables
at
each
of
the
locations
or
can
they
be
spread
further
out
or
maybe
at
the
high
traffic
areas
that
produce?
You
know,
have
the
foods
and
other
things
and
then
I'm
sorry,
council,
member
hamilton.
E
Or
you
know
you
know
if
it's
uniform
that
they're
almost
they're
almost
always
full
all.
You
know
all
the
way
up
and
down
the
avenue
that
removing
any
that
wouldn't
make
much
sense.
E
But
but
if
there's,
if
they're
the
ones
that
are
lightly
used,
then
sure
we
can
talk
about
taking
those
out,
but
we
would
need
to
know
we
need
to
have
that
data.
A
Are
there
comments
on
nine
plus
any
closing
councilmember
mason.
G
Yeah,
I
would
just
say
nine
a
couple
things
is:
I'm
not
sure
if
that
bottom
is,
can
your
foot
open
it?
G
So
I
mean
just
something
but
like
post
covered
right
world
is
you
know
the
other,
all
the
other
cans?
You
don't
have
to
touch
anything.
The
other
thing
I
would
say
is
these:
are
I
I
have
seen
them
and
they're
definitely
get
your
attention.
G
So
I
think
where
we
put
these
is
to
be
very
strategic
because
they
can
be
very
overwhelming
because
of
their
size,
so
to
not
take
away,
maybe
from
another
project
or
something
else
that
we're
trying
to
work
on,
but
I
think
just
off
the
top
of
my
head,
like
the
I
agree
with
maybe
in
certain
locations
where
there's
more
garbage.
G
I
do
just
want
to
think
about
the
fact
that
you
do
have
to
touch
it
and
that
they
are
very
big
compared
to
the
others,
and
I
know
that
just
for
the
staff,
the
los
primos
market,
the
one
diagonal
from
a
grand
leader,
they
have
a
big
garbage
problem,
there's
always
garbage
overflowing
in
that
location,
and
so
I
don't
know
what
can
be
done
about
it.
I
think
people
are
going
out
and
throwing
their
garbage
there,
but
that's
another
location.
We've
got
to
think
about.
E
A
And-
and
I
guess
nowadays,
you
would
should
be
having
that
right
because
for
ada
and
what
have
you
there's
got
to
be
a
second
option
or
opportunity
for
that:
okay,
city
manager.
Does
that
give
you
enough
yeah.
B
So,
to
recap:
we
will
do
further
investigation
on
item
five,
potentially
a
stronger
version
of
six
look
into
eight,
primarily
durability
and
serviceability
of
the
wood,
and
if
a
staff
determines
that
it
may
cause
a
significant
maintenance
issue,
look
potentially
at
a
version
that
has
a
very
varying
color
color
color
pattern
and
look
at
number
nine
for
high
trash
areas
where
there's
enough
space
and
definitely
if
we
get
them,
have
the
foot
pedal
option.