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A
Okay,
well,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
begin
and
we'll
get
situated.
But
first
I
want
to
thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight.
We're
gonna
call
the
san
bernardino
city
council
meeting
of
april,
the
12
20
22
to
order
roll
call.
Please
council,
member
hamilton
here,
council,
member.
E
Still
coming
in
the
room
and
mayor
medina.
A
Yeah
next
we'll
move
on
to
pledge
of
allegiance.
If
you
all,
please
join
me
in
the
pledge,
I
would
appreciate
it.
A
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
united
states
of
america
and
to
the
republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation,
under
god,
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all
and
now,
if
thank
you
at
all
and
now,
if
we
could
move
on
to
public
comments
for
items
not
on
the
agenda
at
this
time,
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
should
like
to
speak
on
items
or
not
on
the
agenda
and
city
clerk,
if
you
bring
them
into
the
room.
B
Hi
pam,
can
you
hear
us?
Yes?
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
whenever
you're
ready?
Okay,
I'm
ready.
My
name
is
pam
heyman,
and
I
am
one
of
the
directors
of
the
warm
water
wellness
board.
We
are
a
group
of
concerned
pool
patrons
who
represent
those
who
are
fighting
to
keep
the
mickelson
therapy
pool
at
mills
health
center,
open.
Unfortunately,
sutter
has
decided
to
close
the
pool.
The
mickelson
therapy
pool
is
a
vital
therapeutic
resource
for
mobility,
impaired
bay
area
residents.
B
There
are
no
comparable
pools
on
the
peninsula
that
can
provide
the
specific
therapeutic
benefits
that
nicholson
therapy
pool
offers.
It's
the
only
wheelchair,
accessible
pool
offers
a
lift
for
disabled
patients
and
is
heated
92
degrees.
This
pool
is
a
preventive
as
well
as
healing
vehicle
and
is
a
much
needed
vital
asset
for
senior
and
disabled
community
members.
B
B
We
also
have
the
support
of
assemblyman
kevin
mullin
state,
senator
josh,
becker
supervisor,
david
canapa,
and
a
petition
count
of
nearly
4
600
supporters
who
are
rallied
in
our
behalf.
I
worked
at
mills
peninsula
for
almost
30
years.
During
this
time
I
suffered
a
brain
tumor,
a
broken
ankle,
a
heart
attack,
three
bots
of
cancer
and
degenerative
disc
disease.
I
was
a
pool
patron
for
22
years.
The
pool
kept
me
active
and
was
the
only
place
that
I
wasn't
in
pain
during
the
last
two
years.
B
Without
the
pool
many
pool
goers
have
suffered
greatly
for
myself,
I
have
shrunken
height.
I
have
excruciating
back
and
leg
pain.
I
have
to
have
trigger
point
injections
of
steroids
from
my
pain
doctor
every
three
months.
I
know
that
the
cost
of
the
increased
medical
care
far
outweighs
the
monthly
fee
to
be
a
member
of
the
pool.
B
While
we
understand
you
don't
do
resolutions,
we
would
graciously
greatly
appreciate
and
encourage
your
support
by
writing
to
james
conforty,
the
interim
ceo
of
sutter
health
corporation
in
sacramento.
Please
stand
behind
us
and
support
this
important
cause
for
so
many
people.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
A
Okay.
Thank
you!
City
clerk.
It
comes
with
my
camera.
Let's
move
on
to
announcements.
Item
five.
The
first
item
here
is
item.
A
sabrina
was
happy
to
partner
once
again
with
recology
of
san
bruno
for
the
spring
2022
cleanup
event
drop-off.
A
It
is
at
the
same
location
as
before
at
975
smith
lane,
the
drop-off
event
will
be
held
on
may
14
from
8
am
to
11
am
and
it's
between
those
hours,
so
it
doesn't
start
before
eight
and
it
ends
promptly
at
11,
and
that
again
is
at
975
sleep
lane,
and
it
is
a
self-serve
drop-off
where
residents
will
require.
A
I
will
be
required
to
unload
their
vehicles.
Residents
will
be
limited
to
three
cubic
yards
yards
and
can
include
bulky
items,
e-waste
appliances,
bag
bags
of
garbage
dirt,
rock
and
concrete
will
not
be
accepted
for
more
information.
You
can
visit
sanbruno.ca.gov
for
more
information,
and
one
quick
note
that
I've
learned
over
the
years
is
e-waste
means
anything
with
a
court
as
well.
So,
just
as
far
as
where
does
that
go,
it
is
considered
e-waste
and
that
will
be
a
great
opportunity
for
folks
to
drop
those
items
off.
A
Next
item
is
item
b
and
we
are
going
to
have
our
director
pamela
wu
speak
about
this,
and
this
is
in
regards
to
please
share
your
input
as
the
sam
city
of
san
bruno
updates.
The
current
housing
element,
your
participation
and
the
process
is
essential
in
helping
understand
and
addressing
the
housing
needs
in
the
san
bernardino
community.
Please
take
the
survey
at
sambruno.ca.gov.
B
Introduction
we
ask.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
for
your
introduction
good
evening.
As
the
city
of
san
bruno
is
currently
updating
its
housing
element.
We
ask
the
general
public
and
also
the
community,
to
share
your
input.
Your
participation
in
this
process
is
essential
in
helping
to
understand
and
also
address
the
housing
needs
in
the
san
bruno
community.
Please
take
a
moment
to
share
your
thoughts
to
complete
the
survey
at
san
bruno
dot,
ca,
dot,
gov
back,
slash,
having
element
survey.
Thank
you
and
we'll
look
forward
to
your
input.
A
Thank
you
director
and
I
I
appreciate
your
patience
and
letting
me
probably
read
what
I
should
have
failed
for
you
to
handle,
but
thank
you
kindly
and
thank
you
for
putting
the
slide
up
for
everyone,
so
I
will
do
better
this
time
on
eye
to
seat.
A
We
are
going
to
have
another
one
of
the
directors
and
on
the
senior
leadership
team.
Matt
lee
introduce
this.
F
Good
evening,
mayor
medina
members
of
council,
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
known
that
the
city
of
san
bernardino
is
working
on
a
safer
after
school
plan.
So
we
wanted
people
to
take
a
few
minutes
to
please
go
online
and
learn
more
about
the
project.
A
A
Thank
you,
director
and,
and
I
know
the
last
transportation
authority
that
I'm
cheering
on
for
the
county
monies
were
allocated
from
the
transportation
authority
for
this
program
and
I
think
it's
a
a
good
worthwhile
and
ask
for
your
support
and
a
participation.
Next
item
will
be
item
d.
This
is
issue
of
proclamation
announcing
april
2022
as
national
poetry
month.
A
Mayor
of
the
city
of
san
bruno
hereby
do
proclaim
april
1st
through
april
30th
as
national
poetry
month.
I
call
upon
public
officials,
educators,
librarians
and
all
the
people
of
the
city
of
san
bruno
to
observe
this
month
to
celebrate
the
cultural
riches
our
community
has
offered
and
to
recognize
the
important
role
poetry
has
in
creating
and
sustaining
this
great
mission,
which
appreciates
ceremonials
activities
and
programs.
A
See
how
I'm
doing
okay
next
item-
and
I
see
we
have
mr
stevenson-
has
come
into
the
into
the
zoom-
I'm
happy
to
get
and
have
this
annual
report.
That
is
very
kind
to
be
given
to
us
for
the
2022
update
from
the
san
mateo
county,
mosquito
and
vector
control
district,
and
as
you
see,
we
have
casey
stevenson
who
will
be
giving
us
the
update,
and
I
will
turn
over
it
to
you,
sir,
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
you.
F
All
right
can
everyone
see
san
bruno
city,
county
april,
12
2022?
Yes,
we
can
all
right.
Thank
you
for
having
us
me
here
this
evening.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I'm
the
operations
director
for
san
mateo,
county
mosquito,
vector
control,
and
you
know
a
little
background
on
our
district
here,
we've
been
around
since
1916,
so
about
106
years
there
we
are
an
independent
special
district
and
we're
funded
by
property,
tax
and
special
assessments.
F
So
beyond
that,
you
know,
if
you
ever
call
us
for
any
services,
there
is
no
charge
to
that.
You
know
beyond.
What's
on
the
property
tax
bill
that
you
most
of
your
residents,
probably
see
on
a
regular
once
a
year.
Probably
these
are
some
of
the
services
we
provide
to
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
san
mateo
county.
F
Obviously,
our
bread
and
butter
is
mosquito
control.
So,
if
you're
ever
getting
bit
by
mosquitoes,
you
see
some
insects
flying
around.
You
know,
please
give
us
a
call.
You
know
one
of
the
unique
things
about
our
district
is
you
know
we
respond
in
24
hours.
So
if
you
call
us
monday
night
we'll
be
out
there
tuesday
morning
kind
of
trying
to
help
out
and
figure
out
what
the
problem
is,
some
other
things
we
do.
If
you
have
an
insect
that
you're,
not
sure
what
it
is
or
you
know
you
might
have
a
tick.
F
You
know
you
can
always
bring
it
into
our
district
and
we
can
idea
for
you
and
kind
of
give
you
some
information
about.
It
also
do
road
inspections,
you
know
so,
if
you're
thinking,
you're
getting
rodents
inside
your
house
or
they're
on
your
property,
we'll
come
out
and
give
you
some
advice
on
that
and
try
and
reduce
the
rodent
population,
at
least
at
your
property
and
kind
of
educate
them
educate
you
about
how
to
keep
them
out
of
there
and
then
also
yellowjacket
control.
F
I
know
this
doesn't
occur
up
in
the
north
county
as
much
as
the
southern
part
of
our
county,
but
if
you
ever
find
a
yellowjacket
nest
on
your
property,
it's
not
very
pleasant.
You
know,
usually
you
find
it
when
you're
out
there
gardening
and
you
actually
step
near
the
nest
and
they
come
and
sting
you.
So
we
come
out
and
we
take
care
of
that
nest.
For
you
all
these
services
are
free
of
charge.
F
I
talked
about
service
quest
in
the
city
of
san
bruno
in
2020
2021,
so
we
had
some
insect
diabetes,
rodents
dead
birds.
So
if
you
ever
have
a
dead
bird,
you
can
always
give
us
a
call,
we'll
come
out
and
collect
that
the
importance
with
that
is
when
we
collect
dead
birds,
we're
kind
of
monitoring
for
west
nile
virus,
so
we
can
actually
test
those
birds
at
our
district.
We
have
a
lab
with
a
pcr
machine
and
then
that
kind
of
stimulates
our
response.
F
Basically,
if
we
find
a
bird
as
positive
for
west
nile
virus,
we
kind
of
set
traps
out
for
mosquitoes
and
try
and
identify
if
there's
west
nile
positive
mosquitoes
in
that
area.
F
Just
kind
of
brief
overlook
of
our
service
request
over
the
years
from
2017
to
2021
we've
kind
of
had
roughly
each
year
between
2
500
and
3
500
service
calls
we
respond
to
each
year
kind
of
like
the
high
number
ones
we
usually
get
are:
yellow
jackets
and
wasps.
We
like
to
keep
our
mosquito
service
calls
low
that,
because
we
know
we're
doing
a
good
job,
then
you
can
see
in
2021.
We
only
have
368
mosquito
calls
for
all
of
san
mateo
county.
F
This
is
kind
of
just
a
little
look
at
what
we
do
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
So
in
san
mateo
county
we
have
about
9
000
potential
mosquito
breeding
sites
in
our
database,
and
we
have
10
full-time
vector,
control
technicians.
We
call
them
that
kind
of
manage
the
whole
county
kind
of
inspecting
those
properties,
at
least
three
to
four
months
or
every
three
to
four
months.
Basically,
so
we
could,
someone
has
an
abandoned
fish
spawn
on
their
property,
we're
coming
out
there
three
times
a
year,
trying
to
kind
of
inspect
it
and
treat
for
mosquitoes.
F
F
11
of
those
were
yellowjacket,
eight
were
mosquito
fish,
so
mosquito
fish
are
mosquitoes
that
we
raise
at
our
district
and
we
can
put
them
in
abandoned
fish
ponds,
abandoned
swimming
pools
and
they
eat
all
the
mosquito
larvae
that
is
in
there.
So
we
try
and
control
our
mosquitoes
in
the
juvenile
stages
before
they
become
adult
mosquitoes
a
little
easier
to
contain
them
and
control
them.
That
way.
F
F
These
are
typical
sources
and
sites
that
we
kind
of
see
throughout
the
county
and
usually
sometimes
it's
flooded
fields
from
like
heavy
rains.
The
water
just
sits
there
for
a
while.
If
it
sits
there
more
than
a
week,
it
can
produce
mosquitoes
storm
drains
which
are
the
grates
right
there.
We
have
a
seasonal
catch
basin
program,
which
is
probably
our
most
visible
vehicle
to
one
jeep
you'll
see
and
we
hire
seven
to
eight
seasonal
employees
to
control
those.
F
Those
are
the
big
producer
of
west
nile
virus,
mosquitoes
in
the
summertime
between
usually
april
all
the
way
into
october,
actually,
and
then,
like,
I
said,
abandoned
fish
bonds,
miscellaneous
containers.
I
know
a
lot
of
people,
sometimes
in
the
winter
time,
probably
don't
go
in
their
backyard,
so
we
always
talk
about
dump
and
drain
okay,
so
always
kind
of
examining
your
yard
before
the
rainy
season
hits
make
sure
your
containers
are
turned
over.
You
know
you
don't
have
any
tarps
or
folded
up
correctly.
F
This
is
just
an
example
of
one
property.
This
is
not
the
city
of
san
bruno,
but
you
know,
containers
big
breeding
source
for
mosquitoes,
so
you
know
once
again
dump
and
drain
please
just
that's
a
big
component
of
our
program
is
educating
the
public
mills
field.
So
I
know
a
portion
of
mills
field
is
in
millbrae
and
a
portion
is
in
san
bruno.
We
do
a
lot
of
control
work
out
here.
F
This
is
a
very
natural
area
and
it
gets
a
lot
of
rain
water
that
fills
in
in
the
winter
time
and
floods
areas
and
produces
a
lot
of
mosquitoes.
You
can
see
this
kind
of
butts
up
to
a
lot
of
residential
neighborhoods
and
if
those
goes
left
unchecked
and
untreated,
this
could
be
a
big
kind
of
nuisance
for
for
the
residents
of
these
areas,
so
we
actually
do
helicopter
treatments
in
this
area
and
that
we
helicopter
comes
starting
in
july
and
they'll
drop
a
pesticide
into
these
bodies
of
water
directly
into
the
water.
F
F
This
is
one
of
our
employees
out
in
mills
field.
Doing
the
treatment
there.
Just
a
brief
little
view
of
him.
You
see
he's
in
the
water
right
there
applying
the
with
a
backpack
cedar,
a
pesticide
that
controls
the
mosquito
larva,
just
a
few
more
pictures
of
mills
field
of
our
staff
out
there
working.
You
know
this
is
eric.
He
kind
of
manages
this
zone
and
you
know
it's
a
large
area
about.
F
You
know:
30,
acres
of
water
that
we're
treating
and
inspecting
weekly
in
the
winter
and
springtime
another
component
of
our
district,
we're
always
visiting
the
sewer
plants.
You
know
throughout
the
county,
so
this
is
the
san
bruno,
south
san
francisco
sewer
plant
and
a
lot
of.
Sometimes
these
tanks
are
down
for
various
reasons,
and
you
know
if
they're
left
out,
so
we
in
the
summertime
we
inspect
these
about
twice
a
month.
F
You
know
because
the
stagnant
water
can
produce
mosquitoes
if
it's
warm
enough
after
a
week
and
can
create
a
real
issue
for
the
surrounding
neighboring
properties
there.
This
is
an
example
of
a
catch
basin
left
untreated
with
mosquitoes
that
we
recently
found,
and
you
can
see
how
many
mosquitoes
are
actually
in
there.
You
see
all
those
guys
flying
around
once
it
comes
into
a
little
clearer.
You
can
see
all
the
mosquito
larva
actually
in
the
water
below
right
there,
so
one
little
catch
facing
like
this
can
produce
thousands
of
mosquitoes.
F
So
if
you
guys
are
ever
noticing
mosquitoes,
we
really
want
you
to
give
us
a
call.
You
know
we
appreciate
it
we'll
come
out
the
next
day.
We
don't
want
mosquitoes
in
our
account.
You
know
it's
not
a
good
thing.
So
please
call
us,
and
then
one
thing
kind
of
on
the
horizon
at
our
district,
you
know,
is
the
use
of
drones.
So
a
lot
of
other
mosquito
and
vector
control
districts
throughout
the
nation,
use
drones
to
for
inspection
purposes,
finding
stagnant
water
and
also
conducting
treatments.
So
it's
a
very
serious
thing
too.
F
We
have
to
get
approved
through
the
faa
and
then
we
have
to
get
a
pilot's
license
through
the
department
of
pesticide
regulations
to
do
this,
so
we're
in
the
process
of
that,
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
be
launching
this
in
the
next
year
to
do
that
and
we
would
be
treating
places
like
mills
field,
potentially
in
other
natural
areas.
F
A
Thank
you
very,
very
much,
mr
stevenson,
and
you
stopped
sharing
the
screen
for
a
moment.
Thank
you,
sir,
and
then
my
my
question
was,
and
I
know
with
povid
and
and
everything
but
and
I
know
council,
member
fellazar,
pryor
and
myself
we
had
gone
and
actually
did
a
tour
at
the
site
on
rollins.
F
A
Great,
thank
you
just
wanted
to
check
on
that.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
presentation
vice
mayor,
mason,.
D
Another
question
just
I
thank
you
to
mr
stevenson
because
you
had
come
out
when
my
kids
were
attacked
by
a
yellowjacket
that's
last
year
and
I
didn't
realize
that
you
also
take
that
on
for
the
county.
D
So
it
was
much
appreciated
and
also
shout
out
to
robert
reichel,
who
actually
got
us
in
touch
for
you
to
come
out.
I
think
within
24
to
48
hours
at
san
bruno
park.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Oh
yeah.
A
And,
as
was
mentioned,
we
also
want
to
thank
you,
mr
stevenson.
We
also
want
to
thank
our
representative
for
the
city
of
san
bernardino,
which
is
robert,
who
is
very
good
about
keeping
the
council
and
the
community
updated
and
really
promotes.
It
stands
very
strongly
for
what
you
folks
do
there
for
the
count.
So
thank
you
again
for
your
presentation.
I
appreciate
your
time
and
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
evening.
All
right.
Thanks
a
lot.
Everyone
have
a
good
night
take
care
enjoy.
A
Now
we
will
move
on
to
consent
calendar.
We
have
items
a
through
I
in
addition,
folks,
before
we
begin,
I
want
to
pay
attention
to
under
conduct
of
business.
We
had
item
a
which
I
was
notified
this
afternoon,
which
is
in
regards
to
the
ordinance
repealing
doctor
10.21
of
the
municipal
code,
adopting
a
new
chapter
10.21
of
regulating
the
use
of
disposable
food
service
wear
by
food
facilities.
This
has
already
come
before
us.
This
should
have
been
an
item
under
consent,
not
under
just
an
arrows
made.
A
F
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
item
by,
as
in
igloo.
A
Item,
I
is
an
igloo
councilmember
hamilton
item
h,
please
h
for
hamilton,
okay,
any
other
items;
okay,
we'll
go
to
h.
A
Mr
hamilton
pick
the
shortest
one
and
we
will
have
its
adopter
resolution
related
to
the
emergency
replacement
of
the
san
bernardino
center
chiller
unit
ratifying
the
emergency
replacement
declaration
of
the
chiller
unit
at
the
san
bernardino
senior
center
authorized
by
the
city
manager
on
march
30th,
2022,
waiting,
competitive
building
requirements
pursuant
to
state
law
and
the
san
bernardino
municipal
code,
due
to
the
existence
of
an
emergency
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
execute
necessary
contracts
to
mitigate
the
emergency
and
to
appropriate
such
funds
from
the
building
and
facility
of
unbalance
coupling.
F
So
yeah,
I
I
just
wanted
to
to
pull
this
for
a
quick,
quick
comment
from
staff.
This
is
this
is
a
very
important
item
and
an
important
issue.
That's
that's
happened
at
the
senior
center
and
I
just
thought
it
would
be.
It
would
be
good
to
have
staff
just
provide
just
a
just,
a
very,
very
high
level
summary
of
this
issue
and
and
the
steps
that
we're
taking
to
to
mitigate
it.
Thank
you.
A
F
But
I'd
like
to
invite
ross
chertoff
the
city's
fleet
and
facilities
manager,
so
city
clerk,
if
you
can
bring
him
into
the
room,
we'll
have
ross
provide
a
brief
explanation
of
this
item
and
again
this
is
item
six
eight
for
emergency
replacement.
A
F
And
after
a
careful
consideration,
you
know
we
got
involved
with
ammatola
and
dennis
bosch
and
matt
lee.
We,
we
determined
that
the
replacement
cost
due
to
the
age
of
the
unit
was
going
to
be
exponential.
So
what
we
did
was
we
enacted
an
emergency
situation
and
escalated.
The
issue
to
the
city
manager
to
one
reduce
the
vote
with
the
wait
time,
because,
right
now,
due
to
the
labor
market
and
just
how
materials
are
we're,
still
heavily
impacted
with
production
constraints,
we
also
wanted
to
lock
in
current
pricing.
F
What
we've
experienced
on
the
facility
side
is
the
longer
we
wait,
the
more
expensive
things
get
it's
almost
like
five
percent
a
month
that
we
see
prices
growing
and
it's
in
different
in
different
departments.
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
a
just.
This
is
what
a
chiller
is:
chiller
transfers
heat
away
from
the
space
by
by
the
use
of
water.
F
What
does
it
is
exactly
like
a
radiator
that
you
have
in
an
older
home,
or
you
know,
even
in
your
vehicle,
it
cycles
water
through
and
uses
the
the
air,
or,
in
this
case,
compressed
gas
to
cool
the
liquid
and
then
brings
it
into
the
senior
center,
where
there's
another
radiator
that
that
cools
the
air
going
into
the
building.
F
It's
a
very
simple
thing:
they
last
very
long
with
proper
maintenance.
In
this
case
you
know
the
weather,
because
we
live
so
close
to
the
coast,
really
impacted
the
the
unit
itself,
there's
a
lot
of
corrosion
on
the
foil,
reducing
efficiency
which
creates
more
load
for
the
compressors,
which
is
what
we
saw
why
we
saw
compressor
failure
next
slide.
Please.
F
And
these
are
actual
pictures
of
the
existing
system.
If
you,
if
you,
if
you
see
in
the
first
top
two
picture,
that
is
the
coil,
the
main
responsibility
of
this
coil
is
to
basically
displace
the
heat
that
is
captured
in
the
building
to
the
outside
and
basically
transport
it
out
of
building
and
into
into
the
outside.
As
you
can
see,
the
coils
are
very
corroded
you're,
not
supposed
to
see
holes
in
them.
F
They're
they're,
paper,
thin
and
usually
very
flexible
to
a
certain
degree,
our
coils
here
when
we
touch
them,
they
disintegrate
they
fall
off
of
the
the
tubes
that
hold
the
gas
that
creates
a
higher
pressure
within
the
compressors
because
they
can't
displace
the
heat,
giving
you
certain
faults
that
could
seize
up
a
compressor
and
reduce
efficiency
down
below
are
valves
that
go
to
the
chiller
that
due
to
leaking
and
untreated
water,
have
basically
that
was
all
cast
iron.
As
you
can
see,
it's
paper
brittle.
F
So
these
are
some
of
the
things
that
we
discussed
and
looked
at
the
cost
of
replacing
while
we
were
making
our
decisions
next
slide.
Please.
F
And
this
is
a
good
shot
of
how
we
lost
combustor
oil.
There's
corrosion
on
the
coils,
as
you
can
see
in
the
lower
right
hand,
picture
is
what
we
saw
when
we
came
back
to
restore
one
of
the
the
two
compressors
that
was
down.
You
could
see
the
oil
spreading
across
the
coils
and
upon
opening
the
unit,
we
see
that
the
oil
has
basically
evacuated
the
system,
and
you
know
just
so.
You
understand,
there's
roughly
90
pounds
of
oil
in
the
system
and
it
uses
a
very
special
cooling,
oil
or
freon
r22.
F
This
oil
is,
is
no
longer
being
produced,
for
you
know
just
california
law
they're
trying
to
make
make
it
a
little
bit
more
environmental
friendly.
So
this
this
is
not
something
we
have
anymore
next
five,
please.
F
This
is
a
shot
of
a
compressor.
You
have
four
of
these
in
the
unit
these
compressors
run
in
price,
just
for
the
compressor
roughly
about
four
thousand
dollars.
I
added
you
know
the
biggest
expense
with
these
is
the
gas
you
have
to
actuate
the
gas
of
the
whole
system.
The
the
second
expense
of
this
is
labor.
You
have
to
plummet
into
an
existing
system.
In
addition,
because
of
the
oil
has
been
discontinued,
the
problem
is,
you
have
to
retrofit
the
whole
new
system
to
use
the
new
compressor
oil,
which
is
r1234.
F
I
know
it
sounds
pretty
standard
like,
but
that's
the
name
of
the
new
oil.
In
addition,
when
this
compressor
sees
and
failed,
it
sends
debris
into
the
rest
of
the
system,
so
the
other
three
compressors
that
did
seize
or
that
we
don't
know
exactly
what
fully
happened.
F
They
may
have
the
debris
and
in
order
to
determine
whether
they're
they're
good
enough
to
last
basically
or
start
back
up,
we
have
to
rebuild
the
whole
system,
which
is
not
very
practical
or
economical,
because
we're
looking
at
about
just
ten
thousand
dollars
alone
to
get
a
compressor
in
the
system.
On
top
another
five
thousand
dollars
worth
of
gas-
and
you
gotta
remember,
there's
three
other
compressors
of
the
same
age
and
you
have
all
the
corrosion
issues
and
a
piece
of
equipment.
That's
over
20
years
old.
Next
slide,
please.
F
So
this
is
what
we
were
kind
of
presented
with.
After
all,
the
information
flowed
in
repair
costs,
initially
lower
than
replacement
costs.
We're
looking
at
about
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
to
get
the
unit
running
versus
the
117
that
it
is
to
replace
this
whole
unit.
However,
the
repairs
would
not
extend
the
service
life
of
of
the
equipment.
F
You
know,
unfortunately,
we
could
put
this
stuff
back
together
and
then
a
week
from
now,
we
would
be
faced
with
the
exact
same
issue
and
expense
three
times
over,
because
there's
three
other
compressors
in
the
aging
system,
so
they
would
not
provide
an
extended
life
cycle
of
the
equipment,
so
savings
may
not
also
be
realized
if
it
did
go
back
up
and
then
went
into
you
know
we
got
the
machine
running.
F
A
month
from
now
we
could
have
been
facing
the
exact
same
issue
and
then
you
know
we're
into
the
equipment
another
35
000
and
we're
we're
already
halfway
to
full
replacement.
So
we
weighed
all
these
options
and
the
decision
was
made
at
the
end
of
that
next
next
slide.
Please.
F
F
If
you
just
look
at
it
at
a
basic
level.
You
know
it
sounds
like,
oh,
let's
just
say,
35
000,
to
get
it
up
and
running.
Well,
you
gotta
remember
that
the
rest
of
the
equipment
down
the
line
is
at
the
end
of
the
life
cycle
as
well,
and
you
know
we're
looking
at
thirty
thousand
dollars
times
four.
If
we
were
to
make
repairs.
In
addition,
the
coil
is
a
separate
cost.
The
coil,
that's
rotted
out
that
would
not
be
addressed
during
this
repair.
F
So
we
chose
is
to
go
with
with
the
smarter
path
forward,
which
will
give
us
another
20
to
30
years
of
life
cycle
and
at
a
cost,
that's
basically
up
front
and
a
one-time
cost
rather
than
rolling
the
dice
for
30
000
repair.
Also
what
we
did
right.
We
what
we
like
to
do
in
the
facilities
world
is
future-proof
things.
We
know
that
we're
next
to
a
very
salt
air
climate.
F
You
know
with
the
fog
rolling
in
we
ask
that
the
vendor
treat
the
foils
with
a
special
coating
that
will
prevent
this
from
happening
in
the
future,
extending
the
life
of
the
equipment.
In
addition,
we
also
were
able
to
get
5
000
extra
tons
of
coolant
capacity
for
the
same
cost
just
because
they
don't
make
a
45-ton
coolant
compressor
anymore
and
in
addition,
with
the
emergency
proclamation,
we
were
able
to
cut
the
service
time
by
getting
the
order
in
very
quickly
to
have
this
compressor
on
site
and
installed,
preferably
into
early
to
mid
summer.
F
F
A
A
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here
and
thank
you
for
the
explanation
that
was,
you
probably
taught
us
more
than
we
already
knew
in
the
beginning
about
how
the
system
works
and
its
situation,
but
anyway,
thank
you
very
much
for
for
being
here
and
presenting
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
evening.
Thank
you,
my
pleasure.
A
Now
we
will
go
to
item.
I
adopt
resolution
approving
agreement
between
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
the
police
bargaining
unit
and
authorizing
execution
by
the
city
manager.
Councilmember
medina.
Yes,.
F
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
just
wanted
to
point
out
and
thank
both
negotiating
teams
for
working
out
this
four-year
contract
between.
A
The
the
police
and
the
city,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
everyone
a
thank
you
for
that.
Thank
you,
councilmember
with
that
again
we
have
items
a
I'm
sorry.
Vice
mayor,
I
apologize.
D
And
I
apologize,
I
didn't
say
it
sooner.
It
took
me
a
minute
to
get
my
notes
out,
but
for
d
and
e
I
just
had
questions
not
a
separate
quote
just.
A
Questions
understood
all
right:
let's
go
to
d
approval
of
the
draft
of
the
special
and
regular
meeting
minutes
for
the
meetings
of
march
22nd
and
march
29th
thanks
man.
D
Thank
you
medina
the
only
the
question
I
had
about
march
29th
if
it
would
be
possible
for
staff,
since
this
was
a
separate
meeting,
specifically
to
determine
what
items
were
going
to
move
forward.
If
we
could
include
the
votes
for
each
one
of
those
items,
it
was
a
special
meeting
and
this
was
the
entire
purpose
of
that
meeting.
A
Okay,
I
guess
somebody
would
have
to
go
back
in
the
minutes
and
look
if
there
were
actual
motions
in
seconds
because
consensus
aren't
votes,
but
I
I
I
can't
recall
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
myself
so
if
that
can
be
looked
into
and
we
can
bring
that
back.
Is
that
okay
city
manager?
A
Absolutely
so
we
have
notes
on
on
the
outcome
of
each
of
the
potential
ballot
measures
and
and
with
so
directed,
we
will
annotate
those
and
bring
those
back
for
approval
at
a
later
date.
Yeah.
If
there's,
if
there
are
motions
in
seconds
yes
or
forever,
let
us
see
it
and
because
I'll
go
back
myself
but
yeah.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
The
only
clarification,
then
I
think
the
vice
mayor
was
requesting
not
to
pull
this
item
but
to
make
a
comment,
but,
based
on
what
I
understand,
council
would
like
to
do.
D
We're
actually
pulling
this
item,
staff
will
go
back,
make
adjustments
and
then
there's
a
desire
to
see
it
again
and
then,
before
you
act
on
it
correct.
I
think
that
that
recommendation
would
be
fine
or
that
that
suggestion
would
be
okay
with
me.
D
G
A
Oh,
I'm
sorry
item.
I'm
sorry,
you
said
e.
I
believe
yes,
thank
you.
Let
me
read
real
quick,
stop
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager,
an
agreement-
oh
oddly,
I'm
not
gonna,
say
it
right.
I
apologize
and
associates
for
professional
auditing
services
for
years,
ending
june
30th
2022
through
2024
for
an
all-inclusive
fee
of
139
thousand
and
five
dollars.
Bye
smith.
D
Great
thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
the.
I
know
that
it's
often,
I
guess
that
recommended
that
we
switch
auditing
firms
every
couple
of
years,
and
so
I
did
see
this
one
we've
had
since
1516.
D
I
did
see
that
they,
the
staff,
is
very
happy
with
them,
and
I
also
saw
that
they
were.
They
were
the
best
bit
as
far
as
just
the
pricing
as
it
appears.
So
my
only
question
is
what
what
would
san
bernard
looking
to
do
in
the
future?
Is
this
going
to
be
another
five-year
contract,
or
is
there
a
recommendation
at
some
point
to
switch
auditors,
nothing
against
the
current
auditing
company,
I'm
just
looking
into
what
best
practices?
A
H
Is
here
with
us
to
respond.
H
Thank
you.
My
name
is
our
attendees
on
my.
So
typically,
an
auditing
contract
for
one
term
lasts
about
three
years.
We
we
often
go
out
for
renewal
another
three
years.
Typically
at
that
time,
the
other
firm
was
switch.
Auditors,
it's
just
one
of
those
rules
coming
out
of
the
airman's
enron
scandal
back
in
the
early
2000s.
H
You
do
recall,
and
so
they
do
not
want
to
have
have
the
auditors
and
the
client
develop
true,
cozy
relationship
so
and
then,
after
six
years-
and
it
is
a
standard
practice
for
most
public
agencies
to
go
out
for
public
for
the
competitive
solicitation
of
auditing
services,
so
one
is
to
try
to
make
sure
we
are
getting
feedback
or
getting
input
from
other
account
auditing
firms
to,
as,
as
we
all
know,
often
competitive
solicitation,
because
our
as
you
can
see
in
this
solicitation,
we
are
actually
able
to
cut
the
cost
by
almost
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
three
years.
D
Yeah,
so
thank
you
for
the
explanation.
I
think
just
something
just
to
think
about
when
we
do
the
next
procurement
in
three
years.
H
We
probably
will
go
out
for
I'll
say
it
is
a
quite
a
an
exercise
for
staff
to
to
get.
You
know
to
a
food
auditor
to
get
familiar
with
the
city
and,
of
course,
staff
to
develop
a
healthy
working,
good
working
relationship
with
the
auditor.
I
would
say
it's
very
likely
unless
we're
not
happy
with
the
auditor.
If
we're
happy,
we
are
it's
very
likely.
D
So
I'm
sorry
so
this
particular
I
apologize.
If
I
missed
it.
H
We
would
have
to
ask
for
console
pro
yes,
because,
usually
when
that
happens,
we
will
ask
so
this
is
what
we
did
with
the
main
people.
We
asked
them
for
an
engagement
letter,
so
it's
instead
of
an
official
solicitation
and
then
is
it
kind
of
more
like
a
negotiation
process.
We
ask
for
the
audit
to
give
us
the
engagement
letter
for
the
next
another
three
years
service
and
they
will
post
propose
a
fee
to
us
and
then
we
feel
that
the
levels
are
acceptable.
H
We
will
we'll
seek
approval
for
the
for
the
contract.
Extension.
D
A
H
A
Yeah
and
my
practice
and
what
I've
heard
from
other
communities
is,
you
usually
only
keep
a
firm
so
long
because
you
do
want
a
fresh
eyes
fresh
perspective
in
dealing
with,
because
sometimes
you
have
the
same
staff
and
you
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
you
know
new
eyes
looking
at
it,
and
especially
from
new
firms-
and
I
know
one
thing
is
that
you'll
find
if,
if
staff
doesn't
bring
forward
a
suggestion
of
a
shall,
we
say
a
continuance
of
another
three
years
that
will
get.
A
That
will
tell
you
something
so
if
all
of
a
sudden,
they
bring
up
another
recommendation.
So
that's
one
thing
that
I
that
I've
seen
staff
do
from
all
directors
that
I've
seen
on
this
is
keep
the
best
practices
which
is
principalities.
So
thank
you,
director,
finance,
director,
okay.
I
think
I
correct
me,
but
I
think
we've
gotten
to
all
the
items
and,
like
I
said
this
would
be
action
on
items
a
through.
A
A
So
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
that,
but
at
this
time
I
also
want
to
open
it
up
to
see
if
there's
any
members
of
the
public
that
we
should
speak
on
any
of
those
items.
Addition
an
additional
two
seven,
a
first
then
I
would
bring
it
back
to
council,
but
I
kind
of
wanted
everybody
to
know
where
we're
going
with
that.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
A
Okay,
I'm
not
seeing
any
hands
up
at
this
time
from
the
audience,
and
so
I
will
bring
it
back
to
council
for
action.
F
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
move
to
prove
all
items
under
the
consent:
calendar
plus
item
7a,
with
the
accession
of
the
minutes
of
the
march
29th
2022
meeting
under
60.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
We've
already
taken
now
we'll
move
on
to
conduct
the
business
we've
already
taken
care
of
item,
a
we're
going
to
move
on
to
item
b
I'll,
go
ahead
and
read
this
receive
report
on
15
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit
signs
on
school
zones,
and
we
have
a
few
folks
that
will
be
speaking
to
us
on
this,
and
I
don't
know
if
the
city
manager
wanted
to
start
or
just.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
medina
to
the
council,
members
of
the
public
at
home.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
this
item
is
coming
to
you
to
discuss
a
request
that
the
city
council
had
for
the
staff
to
investigate
lowering
speed
limits
to
15
miles
per
hour
at
schools,
school
around
school
site
and
senior
center,
and
so
staff
investigated.
G
The
request
with
our
traffic
consultant
and
so
we're
here
to
provide
a
presentation
to
the
city
council,
ask
for
your
direction
on
that,
and
so
our
city
engineer,
heiwan
richie
is
also
available
to
support
this
presentation
as
well.
We
are
as
well
as
our
public
works
director,
matt
lee
and
we'll
first
turn
it
over
to
syed
to
begin
the
presentation
good
evening.
Honorable
mayor
and
council
members,
I
said
the
manager
pointed
out
my
name
is
say:
I'm
with
tjk
consultant,
I'm
a
consultant
city
traffic
engineer.
G
G
It
triggered
that
because
council
asked
staff
about
15
miles
per
hour,
speed
near
schools
and
some
other
jurisdiction
neighboring
jurisdictions.
So
this
presentation
summarizes
staff
report
in
current
law
about
15
miles
per
hour.
Speed
limit
near
schools
next
slide
on
october
26
council
expressed
safety
concerns
near
schools.
The
neighboring
cities
have
either
reduced
speeds
limit
near
k-12
schools
for
studying
and
the
15
mile
per
hour
near
schools.
Council
also
requested
staff
that
the
staff
investigate
the
city's
ability
to
reduce
vietnamese
near
san
bruno
schools
and
san
bruno
senior
center.
G
G
The
current
project
is
in
the
process
of
public
outreach.
Walk
audits
at
school
sites
are
scheduled
from
april
14
to
april
28th.
G
It's
coming
and
then
safe
route
to
school
plan
anticipated
to
be
present
presented,
presented
to
council
at
the
end
of
this
year
next
slide,
and
this
just
shows
the
city
of
san
bruno
limits
and
and
the
schools
that
are
participating.
I
believe
it's
about
12
public
schools
next
slide
back
to
the
15
mile
per
hour.
G
Before
20
2008
assembly
bill,
321
became
effective
in
january
2008,
allowing
local
agencies
to
extend
the
25
mile
power,
speed
limit
up
to
1000
feet
from
the
school
grounds,
and
also
the
ability
to
establish
15
miles
per
hour,
speed
limit
and
school
zones
up
to
500
from
school
grounds
under
certain
conditions
and
the
conditions
are
you
know
the
street
with
maximum
of
two
lane
and
posted
speed
limit
of
30
miles
per
hour
or
less
ab325
does
not
apply
to
senior
symbols.
G
So
this
is
basically
an
example
of
signs.
What
we,
what
is
the
from
one
thousand
feet
from
school
ground?
As
you
see
it,
says,
speed
limit
25
mile
per
hour.
This
street
originally
was
it's
another
jurisdiction.
It
was
30
miles
per
hour,
but
1000
feet
from
the
school,
and
the
limit
is
25
miles
per
hour
when
the
children
are
present
and
then
it's
it's
not
applicable.
When
you
know
the
school
is
in
session
or
weekends
or
holidays
and
also
500
feet
from
school
grounds.
G
You
can
see
the
other
side
which
stays
15
miles
per
hour
as
when
children
are
present.
Basically
what
what
is
required
to
do
this?
It's
a
a
study
documenting
all
provisions
of
cdc.
Just
to
point
out.
This
study
is
not
really
dealing
with
speed.
It's
looking
at
the
streets
justifying
why
you
lower
the
speed
and
look
at
some
accident
records
and
and
make
sure
that
the
provisions
of
cvc
applies
for
that
kind
of
street,
and
then
a
council
acts
action
establishing
reviews
on
those
school
zones.
G
So
this
is
a
california
manual
on
youtube
traffic
control
device.
This
is
goes
along
with
cvc,
it's
a
federal
standard
and
every
state
modified.
So
this
is
a
california
manual
which
is
based
on
federal
mail.
It
basically
says
on
the
left
a
school
ground,
and
then
it
shows
at
1
000
feet
where
you
can
put
the
signs-
and
this
is
just
as
simple,
because
that
might
be
multiple
street
involved
and
then
within
500
depict
the
drawing
on
the
right
shows
within
500
feet.
You
put
the
speed
limit
15
mile
per
hour.
G
And
then
there's
a
new
law
that
just
came
october,
2000
2021,
it's
called
a
syllable
43.,
so
av
43
authorizes
local
agencies
to
reduce
speed
and
residential
business
district
to
20,
20
or
15
miles
per
hour
based
on
engineering
and
traffic
surveys.
So
it
used
to
be
minimum.
Speed
was
25.
Now
you
could
reduce
20
or
15.
Based
on
that
survey
that
the
mutcd
or
california
manual
on
uniform
traffic
control
device
caltrans
tell
you
how
to
do
the
survey
and
by
radar.
G
Ad4Dt
has
a
lot
of
provisions
about
traffic,
so
most
of
the
provisions
will
not
be
effective
until
caltrans
and
california.
Judicial
council
has
developed
and
formalized
procedures
related
to
the
new
provisions
staff
estimate.
This
provision
may
not
be
effective
until
2024
because
of
the
time
required
for
caltrans
and
others
to
update
their
rules
and
regulations,
including
california
and
utc.
G
Public
and
private
schools
there
are
about
15,
private
and
public
schools
in
the
city
of
san
bruno
preliminary
view,
school
locations
indicate
that
all
of
the
schools
may
be
located
with
qualifying
locations.
Meeting
the
cvc
criteria
for
15
miles
per
hour.
Speed
limit
signs
within
500
from
the
school
ground.
G
There
will
be
some
financial
impact
if
the
city
decide
to
implement
the
reduced.
The
15
mile
per
hour,
speed,
limit
500
from
schools
and
then
extend
the
25
mile
to
1
thousand
from
school
ground.
G
G
G
It's
not
just
sign
and
enforcement
sign
enforcement
can
be
used
speeding
in
some
instances,
but
it's
not
a
complete
solution.
That's
fine!
So
before
I
go
to
the
recommendation,
I
think
it's
it's
to
point
out
to
just
stress
that
the
pd
has
mentioned
that
their
staff
that
increasing
one
additional
this
currently
have
one
officer
and
if
you
increase
one
additional
officer
that
will
allow
that
officer
to
enforce
if
he
that
all
15
schools
to
enforce
once
a
month
at
each
school
size
and
then
if
they
hire
two
officers.
G
G
A
A
F
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
presentation.
I
have
one
question
which
is
given
that
there
aren't
any
formal
procedures
in
place
for
under
ab43
yet
and
won't.
Then
there
won't
be
until
2024.
If
we
act
now,
is
there
a
level
of
risk
that
we
would
need
to
undo
or
redo
parts
of
this
work?
If
we
were
to
take
action
before
that.
G
A
If
not,
then
I'd
like
to
have
members
of
the
public
in
our
community,
please
raise
your
virtual
hand
if
you'd
like
to
speak,
and
then
I
will
ask
our
city
clerk
to
please
bring
you
into
the
room.
B
Whenever
you're
ready,
okay,
thank
you
city,
quick
good
evening,
city,
council,
members,
city
manager,
staff
and
members
of
our
community,
I'm
actually
speaking
tonight
as
a
one
of
the
trustees
for
the
san
bruno
park
school
district.
I
want
to
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
having
this
topic
come
before
you
at
tonight's
meeting.
B
The
reason
being
is
there
was
a
student
that
hit
a
car
at
parkside
after
pickup,
which
I
don't
know
if
you
all
are
very
familiar,
but
the
place
is
a
little
hectic
after
school,
not
so
hectic
in
this
in
the
morning
for
drop
off,
but
more
hectic,
and
for
pickup
there
was
a
student
that
went
into
another
classmate's
mom's
car.
B
This
is
actually
a
topic
that
I've
asked
our
board
president
to
bring
forward
before
we
meet
to
our
joint
executive
advisory
committee.
I
currently
am
one
of
the
trustees
that
is
serving
on
the
joint
executive
advisory
committee,
and
so
this
is
one
less
item.
I
need
to
ask
for
the
two
members
of
city,
council,
city
manager,
superintendent
and
two
members
of
our
board,
which
I'm
one
of
those.
B
F
Okay,
I
got
a
question
on
the
on
the
staff
report
that
fiscal
impact
says
it's
191
000
for
one
officer,
or
it
also
says
for
one
or
two
officers.
So
is
that
191
thousand
times
two
or
is
it
191
divided
by
two,
because
it
seems
like
it's
pretty
darn
high
for
one
person
also,
it
was
just
some
quick
math.
That
means
that
person's
got
to
write
eight
tickets
a
day
and
if
they're
only
going
to
be
at
one
school,
I
don't.
F
F
The
second
thing
is:
it
was
mentioned
that
the
senior
senator
was
also
included
in
this,
but
nothing
was
mentioned
about
that.
So
are
we
talking
about
crystal
springs,
road
being
a
15
mile,
an
hour
zone
because
that's
a
pretty
major
thoroughfare
and
I
think
you're
going
to
have
traffic
problems.
F
If
you
do
that,
so
I
think
you
need
to
you
need
to
go
back
and
and
talk
about
that,
if
that's
part
of
the
the
plan,
because
it
wasn't
included
in
the
brief-
and
I
would
recom
I
would
say
I
don't-
have
a
problem
with
the
15
mile-
an
hour
speed,
but
I
think
the
the
enforcement
hiring
somebody
permanently.
F
I
think
that's
too
much
money
to
spend.
I
think
we
could
probably
do
that
with
what
we
have
in
order
to
have
teachers
or
student
teachers
aides
out
there
kind
of
keeping
the
traffic
down.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
city
clerk
we'll
go
ahead
and
bring
it
back
to
council
for
any
comments
or
thoughts.
D
Thank
you
so
one
of
the
questions
that
was
brought
up
that
one
of
the
chat
with
the
chiefs
was
that
that
came
actually
from
some
of
the
non-public
schools
and
whether
they
too
would
be
receiving
the
same
assistance.
D
And
one
of
the
questions
that
I
that
I
had
was
with
a
crossing
guard.
That's
located
right
now
in
front
of
san
bruno
park
on
crystal
springs
in
the
minute.
In
the
middle
of
I
can't
figure
out
that
crossing
guard
is
there
to
assist
both
st
roberts
and
parkside,
and
maybe
that's
why
they're
strategically
placed
there.
That
is
that
is
that
individual,
an
employee
of
the
city.
A
A
Crossing
the
city
does
not
employ
crossing
guards
as
city
employees.
There
is
a
crossing
guard
contract
that
the
city
does.
F
Pay
for
for
san
bruno
park
school
districts,
the
specific
crossing
guard
that
is
asked
about
that
is
near
st
robert's
school.
I
believe
that's
the
location,
we're
talking
about
it's,
my
understanding,
that
that
is
not
a
part
of
the
city
program,
but
we
do
have
traffic
sergeant,
gene
wong.
D
From
the
police
department
in
room
who
can
who
can
clarify
the
will
we'll
get
that
information
to
council
directly
understanding
that
that
is
not
a
part
of
the
contract
that
the
city
pays
for
park
school
district?
I
think
just
another.
D
I
don't
know
if
this
might
be
a
suggestion,
but
maybe
before
making
a
decision
should
it
go
to
the
2x2
committee
first
to
maybe
discuss
a
little
bit
further.
D
I
think
what
the
expectations
are
on
both
sides
and
then
see
if
there
could
be
some
further
collaboration
on
cost
and
as
well
as
schools,
but
I
think
that's
also
a
matter
of
balancing
staff
time
that
the
cost
is
high.
But
I
get
a
little
concerned
that
there
are
a
lot
of
schools
and
there's
a
lot
of
kids
and
we
want
them
all
to
be
safe.
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor
and
thank
you
city
manager.
Yes,
we
we
thank,
you
they're,
not
true
employees
of
the
city.
However,
we
do
oversee
the
contract
that
we
take
care
of
for
the
district
or
for
the
the
youth
of
the
community,
councilmember
media.
F
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
staff
for
this
report.
F
Like
many
things
there
are
costs
associated
and,
in
this
case,
a
pretty
pretty
high
cost.
My
question
for
staff
is
in
establishing
the
15
mile
an
hour
limit
if
staff
can
kind
of
go
through,
that
is
my
understanding
with
the
typical
speed
survey
they
get
into
percentiles
and
then
that
speed
that
speed
survey
that
we
did
is
was
last
done
in
2016,
and
we
need
to
do
that
a
new
one
now
or
real
soon,
because
I
believe
they're
good
for
every
five
years
with
those
can.
F
G
It
the
speed
survey
that
council
member
medina
pointed
out
and
that's
correct.
Those
are
with
radar,
sorry
and
you
do
all
the
streets
and
you
look
at
the
percentage,
but
this
the
15
miles
per
hour
doesn't
need
a
radar
survey
or
that
kind
of
survey.
This
is
a
kind
of
a
report
looking
at
each
school
site
justifying
doing
this.
G
It's
not
a
very
structured
study
like
that,
one
or
legal,
because
it's
already
approved
so,
but
you
want
to
go
and
look
at
the
situation
of
the
street,
the
kids,
the
existing
signs
and
perhaps
some
collisions.
So
you
you
make
a
justification
for
basically
for
council
that
it's
needed
or
not
needed
or
which
kind
of
street
which
which
streets
around
each
schools
will
qualify
and
which
one
will
not
qualify.
G
It's
basically
a
very
different
study
and
then
prepare
the
the
plans
and
specifications
for
installation
of
science.
Sometimes
some
of
the
existing
signs
need
to
be
removed,
so
in
terms
of
cost
it's
basically
at
least
10
signed
has
to
be
installed
roughly
in
near
schools,
and
some
signs
maybe
need
to
be
relocated
and
in
terms
of
the
the
five
years
that
the
the
law.
So
I
have
to
point
out
that
yeah
the
survey
has
to
be
done
every
five
years.
G
You
can
extend
it
to
seven
years
in
ten
years
the
new
ab-43
one
of
the
things
they
have
changed
is
you
can
extend
it
up
to
14
years.
If
an
engineer,
studies
all
the
survey
and
make
a
justification
that
the
condition
of
street
hasn't
checked
again,
that's
not
applicable
yet
because
there
are
some
stuff
has
to
be
figured
out,
but
that's
also
coming
so
maybe
this
time
we
will
do
it.
I
think
staff
was
thinking.
F
F
G
The
percentage
you're
looking
at
the
driver,
how
fast
they
go
because
already
approved
for
cvc.
Without
the
study
of
that
kind,
you
can
reduce
it.
What
it
means
is
a
is
a
kind
of
report
to
counsel
and
a
council
action.
That's
that's
all.
It
means
all
right.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
clear
that
by
doing
the
study,
we
would
be.
F
A
Thank
you,
councilmember.
Do
we
have
other
colleagues
who
haven't
spoken
yet
or
have
a
question
at
this
time
and
if,
if
not,
we
will
go
back?
Oh
I'm
sorry,
councilmember
salazar.
C
Thank
you
and
my
I
think
my
my
hand's
a
little
hard
to
see
on
the
color
of
the
wall,
so
apologize
for
that
no
problem,
so
my
question
is
around
any
sort
of
data,
so
this
question
is
for
you,
so
you
know
about
assembly
bill
321
has
been
around
since
2008.
C
Is
there
any
empirical
data
that
shows
you
know
where
the
15
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit,
has
had
a
significant
impact
on
safe,
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
something
that
would
that
would
make
this.
You
know
more
compelling,
you
know
if
we,
if
we
knew
that
it
had
been
implemented
elsewhere,
that
is
making
a
significant
difference
or
or
that
it's
not.
Is
there
any
of
that
data
available.
G
First,
it
has
implemented
that
I
personally
implemented
or
helped
to
implement
city
of
mountain
view
where
I
was
in
traffic
engineering.
Similarly,
we
have
15
schools,
it
made
a
lot
of
people
happy
residents
and
schools,
and
parents
and
students,
and
in
terms
of
the
data
I
haven't
seen
any
data
after
it
was
changed
in
in
some
other
cities.
San
jose
have
done
certain
school
districts
anyway,
so
a
lot
of
cities
have
already
done
in
santa
clara
county
that
I'm
more
familiar
in
terms
of
data.
G
G
Then
they
allow
these
these
tests
to
be
done
on
public
streets
for
a
while
and
they
approve
it
conditionally.
Once
it
goes
to
the
code.
Studies
have
been
done
in
terms
of
safety
and
results
and
everything.
So
at
least
that
part
I
can
say,
since
it's
in
the
cdc
in
california
tcd
the
degree
of
reduction
in
speed.
I
haven't,
I
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
aware,
and
I'm
not
aware
of.
C
Any
studies
after
the
fact
after
that
has
been
changed
and
implemented.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
mean
the
difference
of
10
miles
per
hour.
It
doesn't
seem
like
that
much,
but
I
imagine
it's
significant
when
you're
talking
about
reaction
time
and
especially
now
that
everybody's
so
distracted
while
they're
driving
it
could
make
a
significant
difference.
I
mean
I
did
a
quick
calculation
at
10
miles
per
hour.
C
It
amounts
to
something
like
20
feet
per
second,
so
in
one
second,
you
could
have
you
know
gone
an
extra
20
feet
that
it
could
actually
be
the
difference
between
avoiding
hitting
a
a
young
child
running
across
the
street.
So
I
you
know,
I'm
I'm
pretty
sure
that
you
know
lowering
the
speed
limit
is
probably
a
good
thing.
My
concern
comes
around
whether
or
not
posting
a
sign
actually
makes
a
difference
to
people's
behavior,
and
you
know
when
we
talk
about.
C
You
know
the
cost
of
doing
the
study,
the
cost
of
enforcement
and
everything
at
the
end
of
the
day.
If,
if
we're
saving
lives,
it's
a
great
investment,
but
if
we're
not
changing
people's
behaviors,
if
people
don't
really
care
what's
posted
and
they
continue
to
do
what
they
personally
feel
it's
safe,
then
then
it's
a
waste
of
money.
I
also
have
questions
about
the
the
estimated
cost
of
300
000.
To
do
this,
so
it
seems
like
to
implement
this.
G
We
looked
at
the
study
and
preparing
plans
and
specifications.
It
might
be
more
than
because
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
for
from
my
personal
experience
that
there
are
a
lot
of
signs.
You
don't
want
a
30
mile
per
hour
sign
on
an
existing
location
where,
before
it
you
say
25
months
and
it
says,
30
miles,
then
it
says
16
months,
so
there
might
be
other
signs,
they
have
to
be
removed
and
you
have
to
look
at
the
streets.
So
the
streets
are
at
25
miles
per
hour.
G
Also
they
will
be
affected
because
near
school
with
the
500,
then
you
have
to
put
500
15
miles
per
hour.
So,
looking
at
all
those
preparing
the
plans
and
not
only
science,
the
post
and
a
good
location
and
the
cost
of
these
signs
are
going
up
too
and
then
construction
comes
and
do
that
and
and
also
we
have
some
elements
of
contingency
and
management.
C
Staff
and
also
construction,
inspection
and
management,
so
all
those
costs
adds
up
to
about
three
hundred
thousand
okay
and
then
in
terms
of
safe
routes
to
schools.
Some
of
the
outcomes
of
that
can
we
expect
that
there
would
be
some
recommendations
about
where
you
know
where
the
majority
of
school-aged
children
are
are
walking
where
they
cross,
which
intersections
require
more
attention.
C
Something
that
that
has
been
mentioned
to
me
before
is
just
you
know,
possibly
having
more
signs
or
more
noticeable
so
like
on
some
intersections.
We
have
flashing
crossing
lights
if
we
were
to
say
rather
than
spend
a
lot
of
effort
in
looking
at
just
at
this,
could
there
potentially
be
a
more
significant
or
more
immediate
benefit
from
and
more
enforcement
and
more
growing
more
attention
to
those
intersections
that
we
know
already
are
problematic,
or
perhaps
the
ones
that
are
highlighted
as
part
of
that
study.
G
G
A
safe
route
to
school,
where
parents
can
take
those
and-
and
there
are
to
create
some
program
where
parents
by
turn,
walk
the
students,
10
students
with
one
parent
and
then
the
other
from
one
neighborhood,
and
then
the
other
parent
comes
next
and
they
have
a
specific
route.
So
they
call
it
kind
of
a
walking
bus.
G
C
Putting
these
programs
together
non-engineering,
but
it
has
elements
of
engineering,
too,
okay
and
just
to
touch
on
a
question
that
we
got
from
the
public.
There's
no
version
of
anything
that
we're
discussing
here
that
would
affect
the
senior
center.
It's
completely
out
of
scope
of
what
we're
discussing.
G
The
ab43
will
affect
senior
center
because
any
any
street
could
be
lowered
to
15
or
20
miles
per
hour,
including
seniors
that
if,
if
the
survey
justified-
but
this
is
a
blank-
this
doesn't
need
that
kind
of
survey.
If
the
school
the
school
is
I
prime
official
or
default,
and
during
when
kids
are
present,
you
can
put
sign
15
miles
per
hour.
G
A
Thank
you,
councilmember
before
councilmember
hamilton,
if
it's
okay
with
you,
thank
you,
you
knew
what
I
was
going
to
ask.
Thank
you.
Can
I
ask
the
city
manager,
city
staff,
you
had
something
then
also
somebody
had
asked
just
a
clarifying
question
in
regards
to
the
hundred
ninety
one
thousand
did
that
was
that
an
officer
or
whatever,
but
city
manager.
Please
sure
thanks
mayor
medina,
just
to
your
your
last
clear,
clarifying
point
yeah.
A
So
this
there
was
a
public
question
about
the
cost
of
a
additional
traffic
officer
in
the
staff
report.
It
does
note
that
each
traffic
officer
costs
fully
loaded,
891
000,
and
so
that
is
for
each
officer
and
that's
fully
loaded
salary
plus
benefits.
A
It
also
notes
that
the
city,
each
additional
traffic
officer,
would
require
a
motorcycle
at
a
cost
of
approximately
73
000,
and
so
there's
the
ongoing
fully
loaded
costs,
as
well
as
the
one-time
capital
cost,
and
the
report
talks
a
little
bit
about
one
officer
versus
two
officers
and
the
level
of
enforcement.
A
So,
to
clarify
that
point,
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
staff
did
provide
a
breakdown
of
the
300
000
cost.
The
traffic
engineer
did
go
through
it,
but
but
at
a
high
level
it's
seventy
thousand
dollars
for
the
study,
one
ten
thousand
dollars
for
project
management,
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
for
actually
the
installation
of
signs
at
the
fifteen
school
sites.
A
But
it's
important
to
note
that,
should
it
be
implemented,
it's
not
just
posting
15
miles
per
hour
signs
it's
25
miles
per
hour,
signs
a
thousand
feet
away
and
15
miles
per
hour
time,
500
feet
away,
and
so
there's
a
there's
a
number
of
signs
at
each
school
site
that
would
need
to
be
implemented,
a
construction
contingency
of
roughly
30
000
and
then
an
overall
project
contingency
as
well,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that.
A
In
addition,
I
think
we've
said
it,
but
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
there
is
currently
the
safe
routes
to
school
project
that
is
going
on
that
is
funded
by
grants
for
approximately
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
well.
It's
important
to
know
that
that
project,
as
mentioned
before,
is
looking
at
all
of
our
public
school
sites.
A
That
project
will
return
a
series
of
recommendations
for
traffic
calming
measures
at
those
public
school
sites
which
may
include
reducing
the
speed
to
15
miles
per
hour,
as
well
as
a
more
nuanced
recommendation
about
what
particular
intersections
or
traffic
common
treatments
would
be
appropriate
for
each
site,
and
so
that
is
already
a
project
that
is
funded
ongoing
and
with
the
recommendations
due
to
be
provided
in
the
winter
of
2223
fiscal
year.
A
What
we're
talking
about
now
is
one
particular
traffic
calming
tool
that
we
would
undertake
the
analysis
of
that
and
potentially
look
at
applying
that
to
all
schools.
F
Thank
you
for
for
that
city
manager,
because
I
wanted
to
ask
about
the
about
the
the
safe
routes
to
school
and
what
we
can,
what
potentially
we
would
expect
to
come
out
of
it.
I
don't
think
necessarily
waiting
on
everything.
F
Until
then
is
the
is
the
best
course
of
action
either
and
I'm
wondering
if
it
would
be
possible
to
rather
than
approach
it
with
an
all
or
nothing
approach
to
perhaps
do
like
a
pilot
with
school
to
and
then
focus
just
on
one
school,
probably
maybe
one
of
the
more
egregious
schools
that
have
problems
like
parkside
and
and.
F
What's
the?
What
would
it
look
like
if
we
focused
just
on
one
school?
Did
the
engineering
got
the
you
know,
put
put
up
the
signs
and
then
maybe
started
to
observing,
to
see
what
the?
What
the,
what
the
effects
of
those
are,
because
that
could
be
another
input
for
the
safe
routes
to
school
program,
about
what
works
and
what
what
works
and
what
doesn't
before
we
go
attack
the
full
15
schools.
F
It's
just
just
an
idea
that
I
will
try
to
throw
out
there
in
city
hall,
sure
I'll
attempt
to
first
cut
out
a
response
that
and
toss
it
to
our
traffic
engineer.
I
council,
member
hamilton.
What
I
understand
the
question
would
be
is:
can
we
start
with
one
school
and
you
mentioned
parkside?
F
I
think
it's
in
particular
to
talk
about
parkside
because
of
one
of
the
examples
that
was
mentioned
earlier,
and
the
challenge
at
parkside
is
that
it's
so
competitive
there
oftentimes
that
pick
up
and
drop
off.
You
can't
go
15
miles
per
hour
right,
so
we
could
post
15
miles
per
hour
signs
there,
and
you
know
at
least
during
pick
up
and
drop
off
the
high
periods.
It
may
not
actually
have
a
net
effect
right,
and
so
that
is
the
intent
of
the
safe
routes
to
schools.
F
G
Had
had
participated
from
the
private
school
yet,
but
it's
a
detailed
analysis
to
determine
what
tools
are,
what
additional
tools
are
appropriate
given
that
unique
circumstances.
So,
if
we
did
pick
one
school
one,
I
think
we
need
to
do
some.
You
know
study
around
which
school
would
be
appropriate,
but
also,
I
think,
in
order
to
truly
determine
whether
it
had
an
impact.
We
need
to
probably
install
the
little
boat.
G
The
little
traffic
count
devices
where
you
can
actually
measure
cars
and
potentially
speed
to
actually
have
some
data
to
say
you
know,
without
enforcement
or
with
enforcement,
are
people
speeding
down
right
because
you
can
post
a
sign,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
people
are
actually
going
to
reduce
their
speed,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
this
is
15
miles
per
hour
when
children
are
present,
not
all
the
time
too,
and
so
you
really
need
to
triangulate
that
and
and
really
do
a
little
study
to
determine
whether
it
had
an
effect
or
not.
G
Okay,
I
please
feel
free
to
come
in.
If
I
did
not,
one
of
the
thing
is
for
one
school
some
of
the
time.
Some
of
the
work
we
need
to
do
is
the
same.
Look
at
that
one
school
and
also
do
the
action
by
counts.
The
other
thing
is
certainly
the
council
can
do
that
at
one
school,
but
each
school
each
school
side
is
is
different.
As
you
know,
each
neighborhood
is
different,
so
maybe
that
first
one
will
be
very
successful.
Maybe
it
will
fail,
but
that
doesn't
mean
in
another
school
in
another
street.
G
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
say
one
other
other
comment.
I
just
want
to
echo
something
that's
been.
F
Said
a
couple
of
times
here
that
I
think
is
important,
and
that
is
that
you
know
you
know
reducing
speed
around
the
schools
could
could
be
quite
helpful,
but
it
is
not
going
to
solve
all
of
our
problems.
I
think
I
think
it's
been
said
a
couple
of
times
a
year.
Many
of
the
problems
that
that
are
in
place
are
unrelated
to
speed.
As
the
city
manager
mentioned.
F
I
was
one
of
those
those
parents
who
was
finding
it
impossible
to
drive
faster
than
10
miles
an
hour
with
that
at
pickup
near
park.
A
lot
of
the
problems
at
parkside
are
because
the
front
of
that
school
was
it
was
not
engineered
properly.
F
That
was
something
that
we
we
tried
to
address
when
I
was
on
tsbc
years
ago,
but
the
district
wouldn't
engage
with
us
and
they
ended
up.
You
know
putting
in
a
single
lane
drop-off
wing,
which
means
that
all
800
kids
wait
for
the
slowest
kid
to
come
out
of
school
and
it
just
turns
into
a
mess.
F
So
I
guess
my
point
here
is
that
you
know
whatever
we
do
here,
isn't
going
to
be
the
be
all
end-all
of
of
fixing
this
problem,
because
it's
not
all
just
it's
not
just
about
speed.
A
D
Yeah,
I
think,
thank
you
just
listening
to
everybody
and
listening
to
the
complexity
of
this.
I
just
want
to
bring
up
maybe
a
couple
suggestions.
One
is,
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
have
our
two
by
two
subcommittee
with
the
school
district,
and
I
know
that
the
I
believe
that
our
city
manager
and
the
superintendent
are
working
on
planning
that
so
this
would
be
an
item
to
agendize
there.
D
D
Maybe
through
the
safe
routes
to
school,
and
then
what
is
what
you
know
the
city
working
on?
I
know
at
one
point
we
we
live
very
close
to
parkside
and
what
I
will
say
is
that
if
one
street
is
15
miles
per
hour,
I
can
easily
see
traffic
going
down
another
street
because
that's
what
happens
now
when
there's
a
backup
right
like
there's
a
backup
on
our
street.
So
then
it
goes
a
parallel
street
over
and
if
you
go
a
parallel
street
to
the
left,
then
you're
running
into
st
robert's
traffic.
D
D
So
there's
traffic
all
over
the
place
in
the
morning
and
I
just
want
to
say
I'd
like
a
little
bit
more
information
on
it
before
you
know
we
commit,
I
think
the
other
thought
is
just
knowing
how
expensive
it
is,
and
this
is
not
to
say
that
any
of
this
expense
is
worth
anybody
getting
injured.
But
I'm
wondering
if
it
should
be
a
strategic
initiative
that
we
applied
it
for
because
clearly
there's
interest
and
clearly
their
support.
D
But
I
do
think
we
need
more
information
and
then
to
find
out
at
one
point.
I
know
when
we
first
this
was
just
a
letter.
We
got
from
the
district
and
I
should
actually
ask
someone
who
I
know
very
closely,
but
I'm
not
sure
whatever
happened
at
one
point,
the
san
bernardino
park
school
district
was
going
to
pay
for
some
kind
of
a
roundabout,
and
I
hadn't
thought
about
it
in
years,
actually
until
just
it
just,
I
just
thought
of
it
right
now.
D
When
we've
been
talking
about
this-
and
I
still
remember
the
superintendent
having
a
community
meeting
saying
that
there
was
going
to
be
1.5
to
2
million
dollars,
set
aside
for
a
roundabout
to
try
to
ease
traffic,
and
so
I'm
I
am
curious
to
know.
I
can
easily
ask
that
I
should
put
it
on
the
record.
That
might
be
something
worth
looking
into.
D
Whatever
happened
to
that,
I
know
that
at
ours
that
the
school
we
went
to
was
a
nightmare
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
after
coming
back
from
covid
and
the
principal
of
our
school
stands
outside
every
single
morning
directing
traffic
they
scat,
they
staggered
the
school
start
times
and
traffic
is
100
better,
and
I
think
everybody
respects
each
other
and
follows
the
rules
and
it's
smooth.
D
D
It
also
gives
us
time
to
find
out
what
bus
routes
the
school
is
doing
and
whether
there's
going
to
be
additional
funds
available
there
and
then
meanwhile,
having
a
2x2
ongoing
committee
where
we
really
get
into
some
of
the
details
of
you
know
how
we
can
best
work
together
and
use
the
resources
that
we
have
to
make
this
impactful
and
not
just
a
decision
that
may
not
really
produce
the
results
we
want.
So
thank
you.
F
Yes,
thank
you
a
very,
very
good
conversation
here.
I
do
agree
that
we
should
involve
the
two
by
two.
F
F
We
do
have
an
ongoing
safe
route
to
school
program
and
it
may
be
possible
that
they
are
going
to
suggest
putting
some
speed
bumps
or
a
speed
table,
but
raise
crosswalks
at
those
crosswalks
which
will
make
cars
slow
down.
I
think
you
have
to
probably
hit
that
one
time
and
and
it
and
it
comes
back
to
how.
F
F
I
mean
there
are
65
hour
hour,
speed
limits
in
california
and
maybe
higher
in
other
places,
but
I'm
sure
most
people
speed
so
that
the
having
these
signs
and
not
enforcing
them
is
kind
of
a
waste
not
entirely
waste,
but
there
has
to
be
a
consequence
and
that
consequence
is
needs
to
be.
F
I
think
because
I
believe,
as
as
I'm
getting
over,
is
people
really
have
a
disrespect
for
the
rules
and
people
speed
and
do
all
kinds
of
other
things,
and
these
typically
are
parents
that
are
that
are
picking
up
or
dropping
off
their
own
children.
F
I've
been
that
parkside
during
drop-off
and
there's
no
way
you
can
go
50
miles
an
hour
because
there's
a
long
queue
of
cars
lined
up
and
down
the
street,
and
maybe
after
that,
half
an
hour
of
drop
off
there
may
be
somebody
that's
going
to
be
speeding,
but
the
way
people
are
going
to
slow
down
is
if
they
get
a
ticket
or
if
they
see
a
police
officer.
F
A
I
believe
they
will
be
looking
at
the
entry
to
the
school
and
hopefully
this
time,
they'll
design
it
properly.
So
those
are
my
comments.
Thank
you,
everybody
for
the
discussion,
and
I
and
I
appreciate
it.
I
had
brought
this
up
and
again,
like
I
said
I
was
reading
it
in
the
daily
journal
for
what
the
city
of
san
mateo
was
doing.
I
think
it
might
be
advantageous
also
for
that
to
be
seen
what
is
san
mateo
doing?
What
have
they
done,
because,
obviously
that
was
something
that
they've
already
began.
A
A
discussion
on
the
city
manager
already
suggested
recommended
that
in
these
budgetary
items
that
you
do
do
it
with
the
budget
right
because
it
is
an
investment
and
a
strategic
initiative
and
councilmember
medina
had
kind
of
just
mentioned
about
some
people
would
say.
Well,
why
don't
you
just
put
speed
bumps
that?
Would
you
know,
like
you
said
you
hit
it
once
I
I
you
tend
to
slow
down
so
for
a
cost
analysis.
A
I
still
I
I
feel
certainly
that
this
is
something
that
is
important
to
be
continued
and
looked
at
and
studied
and
worked
on.
It
is
not
a
council.
Member
hamilton
is
correct.
It
is
not
the
answer.
It
will
not
solve
everyone
doing
that.
You
know,
but
again,
if
something
can
be
done
to
where
it
slows
down
traffic
and
everyone
understands-
I
mean
it's
sincere
in
my
mind.
25
as
a
school
no
hands
have
survived.
A
I
think
it
is
very
much
worth
continuing
to
discuss
and
to
look
forward
to,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
puddles
I.e,
the
safe
route
to
schools,
the
school
district,
the
collaboration,
and
so
I
would
like
to
see
that
continue
in
that
in
those
facets
and
city
manager.
I'm
going
to
ask
you
if
that
gives
you
enough
thoughts.
It
doesn't
have
to
give
guidance,
it
just
says,
keep
a
report,
but
you
probably
received
more
than
you
thought
you
were
going
to
get
tonight,
but
any
thoughts.
A
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you,
council.
Why
don't?
I
recap
what
I
think
the
direction
is
just
to
make
sure
we
have
concurrence,
or
or
at
least
a
majority,
so
we
will
generalize
this
item
for
our
two
by
two,
which
is
two
members
of
the
city
council,
two
members
of
the
san
bernardino
park
school
district
that
meet
with
both
the
city
manager
and
the
superintendent.
A
As
a
specific
discussion
point,
we
will
also
talk
about
this
during
our
budget
conversations,
and
I've
heard
comments
tonight
about
potentially
doing
a
pilot
program
or
waiting
to
see
what
the
recommendations
from
the
safe
routes
to
school
program
are
and
a
number
of
conversations
around
various
traffic
common
measures
and
what
those
would
do.
So
that's
the
direction
that
I
heard
is
that
we'll
agenda
for
the
two
by
two?
A
We
will
talk
about
it
at
budget
and
then
I
think,
that's
like
the
conversation
will
will
be
the
deciding
factor
on
if
we
sort
of
budget
an
action
in
the
budget
or
wait
for
the
safe
route
to
school
recommendations
that
will
have
a
treatment
for
each
school.
If
I
have
concurrence,
that's
I'm
gonna.
There
was
actually
one
thing
I
had
in
my
notes
to
say
just
not
to
prolong
the
discussion,
but
I
did
want
to
say
it
because
public
safety
didn't
point
this
out
to
me.
A
And
so,
if
we're
really
looking
at
the
you
know
the
the
the
specific
solution
for
each
school,
there
may
actually
be
traffic
common
tools
that
may
have
a
lower
overall
cost
and
achieve
the
same
objectives.
So
when
we
were
having
a
discussion,
I
could
have
said
that,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
I
said
it.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
summarization
and,
and
again,
a
thumbs
up
will
be
fine
or
not
of
the
head.
The
summary
that
the
city
manager
gave
is
that
kind
of
what
everybody
has
heard
and
concur
to.
A
Nobody's
giving
me
any
yes,
I
have
one
thumbs
up
two
thumbs
up.
I
have
a
smile
and
okay
anybody
else.
I
I
I
see
a
majority,
so
I
don't
see
everybody,
but
I
do
see
a
majority
that
are
as
out
by
the
city
manager
to
proceed
on
that
path.
If
anybody
disagrees
with
what
I've
just
said,
please
speak
now,
if
not
city
manager,
I
think
you
have
your
direction.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
the
time
and
the
report
and
and
getting
that
back
for
us
to
look
at.
Thank
you.
Next
item
is
item
c
I'll,
read
this
appointment
of
two
city
council.
I'm
sorry,
a
point
of
appointment
of
two
city
council
members
to
an
ad
hoc
committee
for
public
opinion
poll
research
related
to
potential
november
2022,
city-sponsored
ballot
measures,
city
manager,.
A
Thank
you,
mayor
medina
members
of
the
city,
council
and
members
of
the
public,
but
to
this
item
is
requesting
that
the
city
council
appoint
two
members
of
the
city
council
to
an
ad
hoc
committee
that
would
work
with
staff
and
the
city's
public
opinion
poll
consultant
to
develop
a
likely
voter
survey.
Various
ballot
measures
that
the
city
council.
A
Thank
you.
City
manager,
you've
heard
the
verbal
or
repo
verbal
report
from
the
city
manager
on
his
request
for
a
ad
hoc
committee
to
be
appointed.
Are
there
any
questions
to
his
his
report?.
A
Is
the
and
again
I'm
okay
with
thumbs
up
or
whatever?
Does
the
council
wish?
Is
there
consensus
in
which
to
have
a
ad
hoc
committee
appointed?
I
say
yes,
one.
Yes,
two!
A
A
So
when
I
know
there's
city
manager
can
always
correct
me
please,
but
I
know
there's
kind
of
a
timing
element
of
that
too,
though
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
done
sooner
than
later,
and
I
know
that
there
are
schedule
constraints
for
some
or
have
commitments
that
they
they
are
obligated
to,
and
so
I
think
what
might
be
best
if
I
just
ask
the
body
my
colleagues
are
their
volunteers
to
serve
on
this
ad
hoc
committee.
A
If
so,
if
you
could
put
your
you
know,
it
doesn't
need
to
be
virtual,
can
be
your
hand
up
or
something
and
and
let
it
be
known,
and
we
can
ask
that
first,
are
there
any
members
of
the
body
that
wish
to
volunteer.
A
Thank
you,
mr
medina,
especially
today.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anybody
else
that
would
like
to
volunteer.
A
Short-Term
obligation
that
would
make
me
a
hindrance
to
it.
So
no,
no,
it's
not
a
hindrance.
It's
just.
You've
got
up,
you've
got
commitments.
So
that's
why,
and
I
know,
there's
others
that
do
too,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
bringing
that
up-
and
I
thought
this
would
be
the
easiest.
D
Mayor
can
I
just
ask
a
question
because
I
think
that
hong
kong
is
a
great
idea.
I
just
worry
about
being
over
committed,
but
can
we
start
the
conversation
with
the
existing
two
by
two
committee
and
then
see
where
we
go
with
that,
because
you
already
I
mean
that
com,
the
converse.
A
This
would
be,
it
would
be
for
the
public
opinion
poll
research
should
be
meeting
with.
I
believe
the
consultant
staff
and
the
ad
hoc
committee
would
be
coming
up
with
the
opinion
poll
questions
that
would
be
going
out
to
the
community.
The
council
members
would
not
would
not
be
making
those
calls
or
things
like
that.
I
don't
want
to
get
that
impression
and-
and
I
and
I
because
he
stood
up
and-
and
I
want
him
to
clarify
for
us
since
you
asked
that.
D
You
know
he
actually
did
explain
this
in
my
in
our
one-on-one
but
feel
free
to
for
the
for
the
public.
I
would
just
say
that
I'm
I'm
open
to
it.
It's
just.
We
just
have
to
find
the
time,
but
I
I
would
love
to
spawn
that
one
on
the
ad-hoc
committee.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
F
Mason
when
she
mentioned
two
by
two
there
are
we
actually
have
a
few
two
by
twos,
but
there's
a
two
by
two
that
works
with
the
school
district
for
various
matters
and
then
there's
also
a
two
by
two
that
works
with
the
crestmore
development
for
soccer
future
soccer
and
recreation
use
there.
But
this
is.
A
Thank
you
manager,
yes,
just
for
clarity,
okay,
so
with
that
we
had
council
member
medina
vice
mayor
mason,
who
were
kind
enough
to
volunteer
for
that
and
we'll
work
with
staff
and
the
team
to
engage
on
that,
and
thank
you
both
okay.
With
that
we
have
considered,
I
mean
considered.
We
have
concluded
conduct
of
business.
A
We
will
now
move
on
to
item
eight,
which
is
a
public
hearing,
hold
public
hearing
and
adopt
a
resolution
adjusting
the
master
fee
schedule
to
be
effective
with
delight
first
2022
and
we're
going
to
be
having
our
finance
director
help
to
lead
us
in
this,
and
this
is
the
last
item
of
business
for
us
tonight
and
again
it
is
a
public
hearing,
and
so
we
will
hear
from
staff
we'll
ask
for
council
questions
on
the
presentation.
A
H
Good
evening
again,
monroe
mayor
and
the
members
of
the
council
continue
south
finance
directors
tonight.
On
the
last
item,
I
would
like
to
request
the
the
council
to
hold
public
hearing
and
adopt
the
resolution
adjusting
the
master
fee
schedule
to
be
effective
on
july
1st
2022.
H
The
city
council
approved
a
fully
burdened
hourly
staff
rate,
user
fees
and
then
user
cost
recovery
cost
policy.
Together
with
the
budget
on
june
2022
to
on
june
22
2021,
there
was
a
resolution.
2152
stipulates
that
a
new
user
fees
shall
increase
on
july
1st
of
every
year
based
on
cpi
of
the
previous
calendar
year.
H
So
here's
the
summary
of
the
recovery
cost
recovery
policy
on
its
purpose.
The
policy
is
supposed
to
help
the
city
to
establish
an
appropriate
rationale
for
the
level
of
general
funds,
tax,
subsidy
of
programs,
services
and
facilities
based
on
categories
of
service
and
level
of
the
public
versus
individual
benefits.
H
When
we
established
the
cost
of
recovery
recovery
policy,
we
took
into
the
some
factors
into
consideration
of
some
factors:
for
instance,
the
community-wide
factors
versus
special
benefits,
service,
recipient
versus
the
services
driver
and
san
bruno
residents,
and
versus
non-residents
and
availability
of
the
service
in
the
current
marketplace,
and
then
effective
pricing
on
the
demand
for
services
and
the
the
user
fees.
From
now
to
change,
the
homeowner
should
not
charge
a
homeowner.
Less
than
contractor
will
not
charge
a
big
developer
more
for
more
than
homeowners
or
small
contractors.
H
We're
not
allowed
to
charge
a
larger
business
or
corporation
more
than
small
or
medium-sized
businesses
for
the
same
kind
of
services,
and
there
are
several
under
the
council
guidance.
There
are
several
several
levels
of
cost
recovery,
there's
full
cost
recovery
or
recovery
or
near
full
cost
recovery
between
80
to
100
percent,
for
instance.
The
building
permits
is
a
a
very
good
example.
H
We
try
to
recover
100
percent
on
building
permits
issuance
and
there's
also
medium
cost
recovery.
That's
between
40
to
79,
so
those
things
are
subsidized
by
the
city.
One
of
the
one
of
the
programs
on
the
medium
cost
recovery
is
a
middle
school
recreation
program
and
some
of
the
some
of
them
are
much
more
fur.
Additionally,
substituted
by
the
city.
We
call
the
low
cost
required
recovery.
That's
those
services
recover
about
less
than
40
percent
of
the
cost
of
subsidy
incurs,
for
instance,
the
senior
launch
program
is
a
good
example
in
that
category.
H
So,
oh
sorry,
the
proposed
be
increases
for
the
next
few
years.
There's
a
several
type
of
increase
per
the
cost
for
the
console
adopted
a
user
feed
cost
recovery.
There
are
two
type
increase
on
the
schedule
is
one:
is
certain
user
fees
proposals
increase
between
50
to
100?
We
will
we
can
increase
it
over
two
years.
H
Last,
two
year
period,
the
fees
that
are
produced
to
increase
by
more
than
100
percent
are
to
be
increased
over
a
four
year
four
year
period
and
as
adopted
by
the
country's
recovery
policy,
fully
burdened
hourly
rates
are
to
be
increased
by
cpi
increase
of
the
previous
calendar
year.
In
the
calendar
year,
2021
the
cpi
increased
by
4.2
percent
and
development
impact
fees
are
and
are
total
housing
impact
fees
and
parking
parking
in
lucy.
Those
are
outside
the
user
fee
study
conducted
by
weldon.
H
Those
were
established
by
council
rest
resolution
in
2019
and
2020
based
on
those
resolution.
These
fees
are
supposed
to
increase
at
the
california
construction
cost
index
annually
there,
the
the
period
for
the
california
construction
cost
index
increase
is
from
february
to
february.
So
from
february
2021
to
february
2022,
the
california
construction
causing
death
increased
significantly
by
17,
but
I
don't
think
that's
as
that's
the
news
to
everybody.
We
all
heard
about
the
supply
chain
disruption,
labor
shortages,
that's
all
contributing
to
the
cost
increase
in
construction.
H
You
know
they
are
not
really.
Cpi
is
a
factor
of
the
construction
cost
increase
in
construction
causing
that
increase,
but
there
are
additional
factors
impacting
this
construction
cost
index
so
based
on
those
guidelines.
How
will
how
I
want
to
show
the
council
some
examples
of
how
the
fees
are
increased,
so
the
first
category
is
the
speed
or
it's
going
to
increase
between
50
to
100
percent,
we're
supposed
to
increase
at
2
year
later
and
the
example
I'm
using
is
a
inspection
fee
for
single
family
dwelling.
H
H
Actually,
this
156
rate
is
the
is
the
full
cost
full
target
cost
as
studied
by
weldon.
The
next
category
is
the
fees
that
increase
by
more
than
100
percent,
aware
to
increase
it
as
a
four-year
ladder.
So
one
good
example
is
the
business
license
application
fee
for
in-town
business.
H
Our
current
year
rate
is
50,
and
next
year
for
fiscal
year,
23-23,
where
we're
proposing
to
increase
the
64
neighborhood
set
schedule
in
the
wilderness
study
actually
for
a
business
license
application
for
income,
the
full
cost
is
actually
allowed
by
the
the
full
house
is
236
dollars
for
the
fee,
but
the
council
didn't
allow
us
to
increase
to
that
level.
During
the
last
council
discussion.
H
I
think
the
council
only
allow
us
to
increase
the
business
license
application
for
the
income
business
up
to
94
dollars,
so
you
will
see
the
fee
gradually
growing
out
by
fiscal
year,
2024
25,
where
you
will
see
the
fee
for
business,
license
application
increase
to
94,
that's
the
max
by
the
council.
After
that
will
probably
increase
my
cpi.
H
The
next
one
is
the
fully
burdened
hourly
rate.
I
take
an
example
of
a
building
inspector.
These
are
inspector
inspection
fee
per
hour,
so
current
rate
for
the
building
inspector
every
hour
is
157
dollars.
We
have
enough
4.2
increase
of
cpi
for
the
next
fiscal
year.
The
rightful
rating
would
be
163
dollars.
H
As
you
know,
the
cost
of
the
city
will
go
up
with
all
the
benefit,
and
then
you
know
salaries
naturally,
are
the
fees
we
charge
when
the
public
affordably
for
providing
this
kind
of
service
should
go
off
accordingly
as
well,
develop
impact
fee.
That's
that's
the
one
with
increasing
california
construction
cost
impacts
of
17.
H
So
this
the
current
year
we're
we're
charging
twenty
three
thousand
one
hundred
forty
eight
dollars
for
multi-family
residential
units,
and
then
next
year
tagged
on
fifteen
and
seventy
percent.
The
increase
of
the
fee
will
be
twenty
seven
thousand,
and
now
this
is
really
a
long
sum
of
a
multiple
charges.
Develop
impact
fee
is
not
just
one
charge.
It's
made
of
a
five
category
so
for
any
developer.
If
they
develop
multi-resident
family
residential
unit,
they
need
to
pick.
H
This
fee
is
composed
of
a
community
payment,
public
safety,
payment,
general
government,
payment,
payment,
transportation
and
utility.
So
these
are
five
components
of
developed
impact
fees,
that's
where
they
need
to
contribute
to
the
city.
So
we
can
provide
the
service
to
to
the
city
to
to
veterans.
H
That's
next
one
is
the
ce.
A
B
Can
you
bring
him
in
he's
under
the
attendees?
I
think
we
must
accomplish.
B
So
sorry
for
the
delay,
management
analyst
should
be
available
to
walk
you
through
the
next
three
slides.
Rather,
are
you
on?
B
If
not,
I
will
go
ahead
and
walk
the
city
council
of
the
proposed
fees,
so
the
first
one
that
we're
recommending
to
add
is
a
stopwatch
notice.
Basically,
these
are
services
that
are
being
provided
at
no
charge
right
now.
This
will
be
a
new
v
and
the
proposed
raid
is
at
a
half
fully
burdened
rate
of
it
inspector.
E
Sorry,
director,
who
I
had
some
technical
difficulties,
I
can
take
over
all
right,
go
for
it
good
evening,
council,
members
and
mayor.
So
as
director
wu
was
mentioning,
stop
work
notice.
It
generally
operates
in
response
to
citizen
complaints
of
alleged
code
violations
or
from
referrals
from
other
departments
or
inspectors.
E
At
times,
the
stop
notices
are
initiated
by
department
staff
such
as
for
unpermitted,
construction
underway
or
situations
of
life,
safety
hazards
or
severe
nuisance
activities.
The
staff
time
may
be
associated
with
permits
resulting
from
stock
work
and
code
compliance
cases.
These
actions
may
be
followed
by
additional
legal
sanctions,
such
as
fines
or
penalties.
The
overall
objective
of
this
this
code
compliance
process
is
to
motivate
the
property
owner
to
discontinue
the
illegal
use
or
activity
and
to
obtain
required
permits.
E
The
next
fee
that
the
department
is
proposing
is
a
code
compliance
investigation.
This
will
also
be
a
new
fee
and
the
proposed
rate
would
be
half
an
hour
of
fully
burdened
hourly
rate.
Increments
staff
is
recommending
fbhr
based
on
or
fully
burned
hourly
rate
based
on
the
staff
time
consumed
by
bringing
the
development
in
compliance
and
cases
are
investigated,
and
if
appropriate
and
administrative
citations,
warnings
and
violation
notices
are
to
be
issued.
E
The
next
fee
is
a
temporary
certificate
occupancy
review.
This
is
also
a
new
fee
and
it's
based
off
of
staff
time.
E
The
next
fee
is
the
request
for
new
or
change
in
address.
This
is
also
a
new
fee
that
we're
proposing
and
staff
recommends
to
introduce
a
new
fee
to
request
or
new
or
change
address
when
a
new
building
or
a
unit
is
proposed.
A
request
for
new
address
applications
should
be
made
to
the
build
division
so
that
the
new
addresses
can
be
established.
E
E
The
current,
the
current
rate
that
we
have
in
world
report
is
ten
thousand
dollars
what
the
staff
is
proposing
is
actual
cost
and
we're
requiring
a
deposit.
So
staff
recommends
this
this
fee
to
be
reports
from
ten
thousand
dollars
to
the
actual
cost
and
deposit.
The
reason
being
these
projects
require
a
deposit
after
a
proposal
is
received
from
an
environmental
consultant
and
the
mitigated
negative
declaration
is
upwards
of
fifty
thousand
dollars.
E
E
E
The
next
fee
we
would
like
to
we
would
like
to
change
is
the
condo
use
permit.
We
have
a
fixed
fee
of
3
220,
just
like
the
other
ones
previously
discussed.
We
would
like
to
recommend
actual
cost
based
off
of
staff
time.
E
Next
would
be
the
expanded,
categorical
exemption.
This
is
also
a
new
fee
that
we
would
like
to
introduce.
Staff
recommends
to
introduce
a
new
environmental
fee
of
expanded,
categorical
exemption
for
new
development
projects
that
are
consistent
with
the
transit
corridor
plan.
There
are
several
squad
exemptions
that
can
be
used
for
the
project
and
one
of
the
exemptions
for
consistency
with
the
existing
specific
plan.
To
prepare
these.
It
requires
environmental
consultant
to
still
do
an
analysis
of
the
project,
to
do
special
studies
and
to
prepare
an
initial
study
documenting
the
consistency.
With
the
current
plan.
E
The
cost
is
typically
lower
than
other
sql
documents.
However,
it
does
vary
based
off
of
the
project,
and
staff
recommends
the
fee
calculation
be
based
on
actual
staff
or
consultant
time
and
cost
another
fee.
We
like
to
change
is
the
variance
fee,
residential
or
multi-family
and
non-residential
variance
fee.
It's
currently
five
thousand
dollars.
The
staff
recommends
to
replace
this
with
the
actual
custom
deposit.
E
The
next
set
of
fees
we
would
like,
updated
or
recommend
to
be
updated
are
based
off
of
services,
resources
and
staff
time,
so
the
first
fee
is
on
the
temporary
certificate
occupancy
deposit.
This
is
a
new
theme
we
would
like
to
introduce,
and
it's
basically
50
of
the
remaining
construction
value
of
the
project
staff
recommends
an
adoption
of
the
tco
deposit
based
on
50
of
the
remaining
construction
value
of
the
project.
E
The
occupancy
of
a
building
or
portion
of
a
building
may
be
permitted
before
the
certificate
of
occupancy
is
issued,
provided
a
temporary
occupancy
permit
is
obtained
from
the
building
official.
This
is
to
ensure
that
the
project
will
be
completed
in
timely
fashion,
so
the
50
we've
noticed.
Other
cities
nearby
also
have
this
similar
fee,
so
we
would
recommend
to
introduce
this
fee
as
well.
E
E
I'm
sorry,
the
the
additional
of
the
addition
of
the
fire
permit,
addresses
upgrades
to
printing
system
and
hardware.
This
surcharge
will
be
pro
prorated
to
building
planning
engineering
and
fire
fee,
so
the
only
change
that
we're
proposing
is
to
include
the
fire
five
percent
of
the
fire
permit.
E
The
next
fee
is
the
administrative
fee
for
plan
check
for
fourth
and
subsequent
submittal.
This
is
also
a
new
fee
that
we
would
like
to
introduce
of
223.50
staff
recommend
an
addition
of
the
administrative
fee
for
plan
review
past
third
submittal.
The
objective
of
this
fee
is
to
encourage
applicants
to
thoroughly
complete
revisions
within
the
first
three
plan.
Reviews.
Fourth
and
subsequent
plan
review
service
services.
Delays
on
delays,
work
on
other
developer
projects.
E
Another
fee
that
we
would
like
to
introduce
is
a
newspaper
rack.
Permit
of
87.50
staff
recommends
to
add
this
cost,
based
on
fully
burdened
hourly
rate
required
to
complete
the
process.
Staff
would
meet
with
the
applicant
about
permit
process
and
coordinate,
coordinate
application.
Submittal
staff
would
also
review
proposed
location,
coordinate
internally
and
process.
Permit
an
issue
permit
and
coordinate
posting
and
placement
with
the
applicant.
E
The
approximate
time
to
complete
the
application
process
would
be
30
minutes.
The
proposed
fee
is
based
off
of
30
minutes
of
staff.
Time
to
complete
the
review
process,
the
permitting
of
the
newspaper
rack
is
aimed
to
reduce
the
amount
of
sidewalk
flutter
associated
with
freestanding
news,
racks,
fixed
pedestal
news
rack,
promote
the
safety
and
welfare
and
the
aesthetic
qualities
of
the
city.
E
The
next
change
we
would
not
like
to
include
is
the
general
plan
maintenance
fee.
Currently
we
don't
have
a
proposed
or
we
don't
have
a
recommended
fee
for
this.
For
the
next
fiscal
year,
the
city
or
the
staff
is
proposing
0.4
of
building
valuation.
E
The
fiscal
year
2122
adopted
fee
for
general
plan
maintenance
fee
was
9
of
the
building
permit
fee
for
new
construction.
The
current
proposed
fiscal
year
2223
general
plan
maintenance
fee,
is
zero
percent,
which
does
not
cover
the
cost
of
developing
a
general
plan.
Amendment
the
general
plan
maintenance
fee
was
intended
to
directly
reduce
financial
support
needed
from
the
city's
general
fund
for
long-range
planning
efforts.
Our
original
projections
underestimated
actual
costs
of
creating
the
general
plan.
Amendment
and
several
other
cities
collect
a
development
related
fee
to
help
fund
the
maintenance
of
their
general
plan.
E
E
This
fee
will
cover
the
staff
needed
to
implement
and
prioritize
general
plan
amendment,
including
rezoning
key
sites
and
updating
the
community
plans
staff
viewed
these
adopted
by
other
neighboring
cities
and
recommends
the
fee
structure
to
be
changed
to
0.4
building
valuation
daily
city
charter,
just
0.5
percent
of
building
valuation,
south
san
francisco
charges,
0.16
belmont
charges,
0.75
of
building
valuation
just
to
provide
perspective
of
neighboring
cities.
E
It's
work
without
a
permit,
so
it
would
be
an
investigation
fee
and
staff
is
proposing
up
to
10
of
or
up
to
10
times
the
permit
fee
staff
recommends
an
addition,
additional
addition
of
a
penalty
for
work
without
a
permit,
an
investigation
fee
ends
up
in
addition
to
the
permit
fee
shall
be
collected
as
a
civil
penalty
of
whether
or
not
a
permit
is
then
or
subsequently
issued.
The
investigation
fee
shall
be
up
to
10
times
of
the
building
permanency.
E
The
investigation
fee
shall
be
determined
by
the
building
official
and
shall
be
based
off
of
the
staff
time
reasonably
required
to
resolve
all
the
issues
related
to
the
work
that
has
been
performed
without
a
permit.
No
construction
work
shall
be
issued
or
no
construction
work
shall
be
issued
until
the
investigation
fee
has
been
paid
in
full
and
the
reason
for
this
recommendation
is
to
align
with
a
similar
penalty
adopted
by
the
fire
by
the
fire
department
and
unicode
section
11.24,
amended
code,
section
106.1.2.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
we'll
we'll
likely
come
back
with
questions
so
stay
here.
F
So
the.
F
Is
one
new
proposed
fee
for
the
public
works
department
and
I
believe
we
have
our
city
engineer
heiwan
richie
on
to
describe
this
one.
F
At
mayor
medina
members
of
council,
my
name
is
matt
lee,
I'm
the
public
works
director
and
the
next
in
line
like
the
city
manager
said,
and
so
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
proposed
public
work.
Key
changes
that
we
have
ours
is
not
as
expensive
as
the
billing
departments,
but
we
do
have
one
which
is
the
building
permanent
plan
review
fee.
It's
12
of
the
building
permit
fee
currently
at
the
moment,
but
our
proposed
rate
would
be
either
12
percent
of
the
permit
building
permit
fee
or
a
minimum
of
171
dollars.
F
That's
all
we
have.
F
Okay,
and
so
there
was
a
public
notice
associated
with
with
this
proposal,
so
there's
a
legal
standard
that
an
act
in
a
public
paper
that
was
done
on
april
1st
and
april
7th
as
standard
any
new
fees
that
are
adopted
by
the
city
council
take
60
days
before
they
become
effective.
A
The
the
city
managers
budget
that
that
comes
to
the
city
council,
that's
important
to
note,
and
it's
actually
sort
of
a
best
practice
that
I've
seen
in
other
communities
that
I've
worked
is
that
you
do
your
fee
increases
actually
in
time
to
take
effect
with
your
budget.
Not
if
you
approve
them
in
june,
it's
delayed
and
they
typically
don't
take
effect
until
september,
and
so
tonight
we
are
holding
a
public
hearing
on
the
adoption
and
resolution
for
adjusting
the
masterpiece
schedule
effective
july
1
2022..
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
to
staff
for
bringing
this
to
us.
I
do
have
a
couple
questions,
but
I'll
just
start
with
this
one.
So
if
you
have
somebody
that
is
working
improving
their
property,
but
let's
say
that
they
are
not
in
compliance.
Is
it
possible
that
they
would
get
a
stop
work,
notice,
code,
compliance
investigation
and
work
without
a
permit
investigation
fee
altogether?.
D
A
No,
no,
I
was
just
trying
because,
because
if,
if
there
were,
I
would
ask
for
a
director
was
that
give
them
all
to
her
at
once
and
then
she
would
respond
back.
But
if
you're
not
sure,
I
guess
we'll
do
well,
we'll
start
one
at
a
time,
so
we
can
try
to
merge
them.
But
definitely
yes,
if
you
could
please
ask.
B
Sure
so,
vice
mayor,
if
I
understand
you
correctly,
if
somebody
were
to
put
a
building
without
the
benefit
of
securing
a
permit
first,
we
would
issue
a
stop
fork
notice
with
a
b,
so
that's
av,
and
we
would
also
do
a
certain
amount
of
code
in
compliance
investigation.
D
B
Once
and
then
to
get
the
structure
legalized,
they
will
also
apply
for
a
deep
building
permit
and
that
will
be
the
third
fee
to
contract,
to
apply
for
a
building
permit
to
legalize
the
structure.
D
What
about
the
work
without
a
permit
investigation
fee?
Is
that
the
same
because
that's
listed
as
a
penalty
and
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
see
page
numbers,
it's
it's
the
page
right
before
the
no
bear
faces
you're,
referring.
B
To
the
third
slide
of
our
proposed
beat.
D
B
So
it's
worth
without
a
permit,
so
that's
more
of
a
penalty
feat.
So
if
there
is
a
noticeable
violation
for
continuous
out
of
compliance,
we
want
to
encourage
the
property
owner
to
cure
the
violation
that
could
potentially
impose
a
penalty
up
to
ten
percent.
So
this
will
be
on
top
of
the
stop.
Org
stop
work
order
fee
that
you
mentioned
earlier.
B
Well,
go
ahead
sure,
but
last
mayor,
let
me
open
on
that
because
but
the
penalty
fee
is
actually
not
the
first
tool
that
the
city
goes
to
the
penalty
fee
would
only
be
assessed
if
we
are
not
receiving
compliance,
and
so
what
we
strive
for
always
is
compliance
first,
but
it's
oftentimes
helpful
to
have
that
penalty
as
a
tool
in
the
city's
toolbox.
B
If
we
are
dealing
with
someone
that
hasn't
received
a
stop
work
nor
a
stop
work
notice,
but
but
it's
not
coming
in
compliance,
and
you
know
that
there
are
examples
of
that
throughout
the
city
where
you
know
after
repeated
trying
and
extending
significant
staff
dollars
to
try
and
get
compliance,
there's
just
not
compliance,
and
so
it's
important
to
have
that
that
penalty.
But
yes,.
D
This
fee
would
apply
to
a
single
family
home,
a
homeowner,
doing
work
under
permanent
work
at
that
at
their
home,
as
well
as
a
large
developer,
doing
unpermitted
work
or
a
commercial
property
owner
doing
unpermitted
work.
But
again
our
first
goal
is
always
compliance
now,
and
I
think
it's
also
one
of
the
reasons
why
staff
is
recommending
the
stop
work
notice
and
the
investigation
fees
is
because
we
will
oftentimes,
spend
significant
city
dollars.
D
Addressing
issues
where
the
simple
answer
was
to
come
in
and
apply
for
a
permit,
and
so
there's
an
attempt
to
to
recoup
some
of
those
city
dollars
that
we
extend
when
we
are
proactively
working
and
to
get
compliance.
D
Okay,
when
the
the
last
set
of
fees
that
have
not
so
I'm
not
talking
about
the
fees
that
were
approved
that
are
facing
in,
but
I'm
talking
about
just
those
that
were
effective,
were
they
effective
in
september
of
2021?
Is
that
correct?
D
So
so
the
city
council
adopted
the
last
fees
for
the
for
the
last
fiscal
year,
but
because
that
about
happened,
I
think
at
the
last
meeting
in
june
those
fees
did
not
take
effect
until
september
1..
As
I
said
earlier,
one
of
the
things
we
wanted
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we
sort
to
reset
when
these
fees
come
to
council
so
that
they
can
go
into
effect
at
the
beginning
of
the
fiscal
year
and
the
city
will
have
the
benefit
of
projecting
a
full
year
of
any
increased
revenue.
D
I'm
sorry
just
sort
of
moving
it
up.
Okay-
and
I
do-
and
I
have
to
say
I
do
appreciate
that.
I
do
think,
though
this
the
initial
fees
were
quite
steep
and
it
would
be
nice
to
hear
some
feedback
on
what
you
are
hearing
from
the
public
who's
coming
to
city
hall
when
they
see
the
new
fees.
B
I
will
take
that
one
we
haven't
heard
I'm
checking
with
the
darcy
our
chief
building
official,
but
we
have
not
heard
too
many
negative
comments.
Coming
from
the
homeowners,
the
larger
developers
are
used
to
the
fees
through
other
cities
in
terms
of
the
planning
fees,
it's
really
a
more
of
a
shift
from
a
fixed
fee
to
a
deposit
required
developer
reimbursement
in
the
cap
on
the
general
on
a
very
high
level.
We
have
not
gotten
a
lot
of
pushback
since
september,
where
the
new
fees
are
implemented.
D
Okay-
let's
get
to
here
what
was
the
bingo
licensing
fee
before
this,
because
I'm
saying
it's,
it
was
400.
It's
409
is
that
an
increase.
B
I'm
sorry
director's
son:
do
you
know?
Bingo
is
one
of
the
ced
fee.
F
Just
one
moment
vice
mayor
mason,
can
we
return
to
that
question?
Let
us.
D
Do
a
little
bit
of
research
and
when
we
get
the
answer,
we'll
we'll
raise
a
hand.
Okay
and
then
I
noticed
also
the
candidate
statement
printing
fee
and
it
refers
to
resolution
2009
53a,
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
different
than
the
500
filing
fee.
That's
currently
paid,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
not.
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear.
Is
that
an
increase
of
200
or
is
this
a
completely
different
candidate
filing
me
that
maybe
I'm
confusing
so
that
and
that's
on
page
139.
D
And
I
I
know
my
colleagues
have
some
questions.
I
think,
if
I
can
say
just
in
general
that
while
I
do
appreciate
staff's
effort
and
the
additional
fees
that
were
that
are
before
us,
in
addition
to
what's
recommended,
because
I
do
get
concerned
that
we
just
increased
the
fees
in
september
and
so,
while
in
a
general
year
would
say
that
you
know
july
1st
of
every
year
is
reasonable.
D
I
also
hesitate
because
the
fees
were
so
steep
last
year
to
increase
them
not
even
a
year
later,
does
risk
some
concern,
because
I
think
that
a
lot
of
the
fees
that
I
saw
in
the
packet
are
gonna
impact.
Smaller
mom-and-pops,
not
necessarily
you
know
the
bigger
entities
that
have
project
managers
who
are
familiar
with
with
the
rules
and
the
regulations.
D
The
other
concern
I
have
is
that
there's
nothing
in
the
packet
or
the
presentation
made
tonight
around
how
long
a
standard
of
these
would
take.
So
I
think
it's
easy
to
say
well
we're
going
to
recoup
staff's
time,
but
what?
How
much
time
is
that
I
mean
because
we
do
want
people
to
improve
their
properties.
D
So
I
support
the
continuation
of
the
phasing
because
I
think
that
is
important,
and
that
is
what
we
you
know.
We
we
felt
was
fair
support,
I'm
supportive
of
the
increase
in
the
development
in
my
fees.
I
do
get
concerned
about
this.
These
newer
fee
schedules
and
the
cpi
increases,
because
I
just
feel
like
I
when
I
don't
know
enough
about
these
newer
ones.
D
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
a
hard
hit
for
somebody
who
might
be
trying
to
take
on
a
project
of
their
own,
and
I
say
this
just
haven't
been
on
the
planning
commission.
There
are
constantly
families
that
are
trying
to
improve.
They
didn't
know
they
couldn't
that
something.
You
know
couldn't
be
done,
they
might
have
to
request
the
variance
you
know
they
decided
they
wanted
to
tweak
something,
and
now
they
have
a
whole
new
project,
not
knowing
it.
D
A
Well,
thank
you
and
then
before
I
move
on
to
councilmember
hampton
vice
mayor
had
asked
about
the
on
page
139
the
candidate
statement
resolution
2009,
which
there
is
a
portion
that
can't
be
refunded,
but
we
have
our
city
clerk
and
maybe,
if
she
could,
she
can
answer
yes.
B
Mayor,
thank
you.
Yes,
the
campaign
filing
fee
has
been
updated
to
better
align
with
the
counties
fee
that
we
are
billed
after
the
fact
for
campaign
printing
bus
we've
haven't
updated
our
resolution
since
2009,
as
you
noted,
and
so
the
fee
has
been
standard
around
550,
but
we've
noticed
a
steady
increase
in
the
fee
charges
from
the
county
for
printing
fees
that
are
more
in
line
with
600
to
650.
B
B
To
the
candidates,
because
currently
there
are
refunds,
if
any
have
been
very
miniscule
and
we
tend
to
actually
have
to
pay
more
after
the
fact.
So
that's
why
we're
asking
for
an
increase
in
that.
D
I'm
good,
may
I
just
ask
a
follow-up
remember
to
just
since
we're
on
that
topic.
Yeah,
certainly
just
so.
Are
there
any
other
fees
that
are
not
outlined
in
the
spreadsheet
that
were
updated.
D
Well,
because
we're
we're
reviewing
this,
the
masterpiece
schedule
like
as
a
whole,
and
so
there's
an
entire
book
here
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
every
change
is
outlined
in
the
spreadsheet.
That
comes
before
the
book,
which,
which
is
what
I
initially
thought
until
I
just
asked
about
the
candidate
fee
and
the
bingo
fee.
D
So
let
me
clarify
my
question.
Thank
you.
So
in
in
the
packet
there's
a
spreadsheet
that
starts
on
page
130
and
I
took
the
spreadsheet
to
be
the
the
highlights
like
these
are
the
changes
that
are
being
made.
This
is
what's
being
proposed,
but
then,
when
I
started
looking
at
the
master
fee
schedule-
and
I
know
that
was
the
one
that
I
noticed-
because
of
course
I
paid
it
in
the
last
election-
it
made
me
wonder
if
there
are
other
items
in
that
fee
schedule
that
are
not
included
in
the
spreadsheet.
D
A
I
think
I
understand
now.
Thank
you.
I'd
like
to
no
no
problem.
I
think
that
the
reason
I
was
thinking
like,
okay,
I
was
gonna-
have
city
clerk,
but
I
think
that
would
go
more
to
the
city
manager.
It's
more
of
a
broad
question
for,
for
the
entire
master
fee
schedule.
F
Changes
that
are
noted
in
the
spreadsheet
that,
like
mayor
mason
noted,
are
the
community
and
economic
development
fees
and
the
that
are
that
we
went
through
in
detail
in
the
presentation
to
be
changed.
F
The
one
that
I
plus
the
public
works
fees
that
I'm
not
seeing
on
pages
130
to
132,
but
but
that
one
is
noted
in
the
staff
report
and
was
explained
in
detail
in
the
presentation.
F
The
2022-2023
master
fee
schedule
that
is
in
here
has
been
increased
by
cpi,
as
appropriate
by
the
cci
instruction
cost
index,
as
per
council
policy
and
by
your
adopted
phased
implementation
of
the
increases
that
were
adopted
last
year,
because
some
of
the
increases
were
significant
because
we
hadn't
increased
our
fees
for
quite
some
time
and
they
were
out
of
market
and
we
weren't
recovering
full
costs.
But
because
of
some
of
the
increases,
were
significant
councils
said
spread
those
over
two
years
or
over
four
years.
F
So
those
are
the
changes
that
have
been
made
council
or
advice
interviews,
and
I.
D
Think
what
prompted
your
question
was:
the
city
clerk's
explanation
of
the
700
fee
as
though
that
is
a
new
fee
that
was
changed
this
time,
but
not
denoted
in
the
table
or
the
spreadsheet.
It's
my
understanding,
and
we
will
confirm
that
in
one
second,
that
that
change
did
not
hurt.
Now
that
was
a
change
that
occurred
in
our
your
prior
update
of
the
fees
and
the
city.
D
Explanation
was
not
an
explanation
of
something
that
is
occurring
proposed
to
occur
now
it's
something
that
occurred
the
last
time
we
adopted
the
fee,
but
I'm
having
staff
pull
up
the
adopted
fee
schedule
and
what
will
confirm
that
is
affect
the
seven
hundred
dollars
in
the
current
adopted
fee
sticker.
D
Okay
and
the
finance
director
has
confirmed
for
me
that
it
is
700.
It
was
that
way
when
you
adopted
it
last
time
for
a
resolution,
and
so
the
city
clerk's
explanation.
I
know
the
way
she
said
it
made.
It
seem
like
it
was
a
change
that
was
proposed.
Now
that
was
a
change.
That
was
the
rationale
for
why
it
was
changed
before.
No,
I
think
that
let
the
city
clerk
off
the
hook.
D
F
F
So,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
I'm
not
you
used
to
be
vice
mayor,
councilmember
medina.
Why
don't
I
toss
that
to
either
pamela
wu
or
our
chief
building
official
darcy
who's
also
on,
but
a
number
of
our
fees
are
evaluation-based
and
when
you're
highlighting
just
happens
to
be
a
one
of
the
more
significant
ones,
that's
valuation
based,
and
so
I
I
think
the
question
is
essentially.
B
B
B
I
think
it's
clear
my
questions
clearer
now:
city
manager
broken
so
some
of
the
building
permits
fees
are
based
on
construction
and
evaluation,
but
I
believe
council,
member
medina's
question
is
directly
at
public
works
and
why
not
use
hourly
fee,
but
do
a
percentage
based
on
construction
valuation,
which
will
eventually
be
part
of
the
overall
building
permit
fee.
But
it's
a
dedicated
portion
that
goes
to
public
works.
B
Okay,
so
let
me
try
and
break
that
down
and
the
overall
building
permit
is
evaluation
basis.
The
public
works
portion
is
just
a
portion
of
that
fee
and
the
only
change
is
just
to
have
a
minimum
amount
of
171
dollars,
which
is
roughly
that
probably
one
fully
loaded
hour
of
staff.
Time
of
the
fully
burdened
rate,
and
so
it's
just
to
have
sort
of
a
minimum
for
the
public
work
side,
but
that
entire
fee
is
valuation-based.
B
Right
and
then
also
if
I,
if
I
can
add
to
it
so
12
public
works
review
fee
that
was
implemented
last
year,
was
not
enough
cover
for
the
actual
work.
If
you
have
a
low
valuation
12
of
the
low
valuations,
and
it
is
not
enough
to
cover
for
one
fully
burdened
way.
So
at
this
time,
public
works
is
asking
to
charge
a
minimum
of
171
dollars
or,
if
it
exceeds
171
12
of
the
overall
building
permit.
B
F
B
At
what
are
they
actually
doing
without
over
okay?
I
see
directly
coming
up
good
evening
council
media
to
answer
your
questions.
It's
a
variety
of
things.
I
think
it
depends
on
the
project
right
so
for
larger
projects,
it's
items
that
are
in
the
public
right
away,
sometimes
for
typical
building
projects.
It's
to
ensure
that
the
proper
utilities
are
collect
connected
to
the
city
system,
storm
drain
items,
sun
grain
lines-
you
know,
sewer
lines,
water
lines,
making
sure
things
are
in
the
utility
meters
or
in
the
right
location.
F
F
F
So
this
is
enough
for
an
inspection
fees
for
actually
reviewing
the
actual
permit.
I
believe
and
like
they
described
earlier,
it
was
it's
a
proportion
of
the
building
permits
fee
and
I
think
it's
the
help
of
kind
of,
hopefully
not
confusing,
where
the
cost
goes
from,
where
where
the
funds
are
going
for
the
fee
that's
currently
being
charged.
Currently
public
works
is
12
of
that
building
permanent
fee,
but
at
a
minimum
it
would
be
171
dollars.
If
there's
no,
if
public
works
reviews,
then
there's
no
additional.
F
You
know
review
needed
yeah.
I
always
thought
our
permittees
had
some
linkage
to
actually
work
being
conducted,
and
if
it
took
three
hours
to
do
a
fan
check,
then
it
was
complicated
to
look
at
the
water,
the
sewers,
the
storms
electrical.
Maybe
there's
an
easement
whatever
amount
of
time
it
took
to
review
those
plans,
then
it
would
seem
like
the
time
of
that
inspector
or
engineer
should
be
charged
to
the
cause
of
debt.
F
F
That
is
true
for
all
of
our
fees,
even
though
some
of
the
methodologies
for
the
fees
are
valuation
based
the
way
you
set
your
fees,
how
we
did
last
year,
which
is
you,
do
a
full
master
fee
study
where
you
hire
a
consultant,
they
do
cycle
times
on
how
long
an
average
permit
costs
and
what
the
california
constitution
says
is
that
he
must
have
a
relation
to
the
cost
reasonably
born
to
to
do
the
work
or
undertake
the
work
being
asked
for
right,
and
so
you
set
that
fee
based
on
your
case
study
and
then,
but
you
don't
do
a
fee
study
every
year.
F
I
will
say:
council,
member
medina,
the
question
you're
asking
is
really
a
fee
methodology
question
which
is
really
something
that
we
would
look
into
as
a
dedicated
effort
or
during
the
next
massive
peer
review
to
say.
Should
we
change
the
basis
for
charging
this
fee
from
a
valuation
base
to
an
hourly
rate
base?
What
we're
bringing
you
tonight
is
a
annual
increase
of
the
fees
per
the
ordinance
either
by
cpi
or
the
construction
cost
index
or
and
recommending
new
fees.
F
Where
there's,
we
feel
a
strong
recommendation
for
adding
a
new
fee
and
so
we're
not
making
methodology
changes
to
the
fees.
But
we
can
certainly
look
at
that.
The
next
time,
if
requested
right-
and
this
is
this-
is
a
minimum
charge
now,
because
the
valuation
could
be
so
low
that
it
still
took
time
for
that
inspector
to
go
over
pull
the
plans
out
and
do
a
re
do
a
review.
F
So
all
right.
Moving
on
for
the
work
without
a
permit,
there's
a
there's,
a
maximum
of
10
times.
Is
there
a
minimum.
B
That
rationale
is
based
on
trying
to
encourage
the
homeowner
to
cure
the
violation
and
pending
on
how
severe
the
life
and
safety
problem
is
and
how
long
it's
been
progressing
say
that
there
is
a
coalition
issue.
That's
been
sitting
on
the
property
for
years.
We
want
to
encourage
that
by
suggesting
a
higher
penalty
fee,
but
if
they
bring
it
into
compliance
sooner,
we
can
bring
it
down
and
that
that
discretion
is
with
the
building
of
middle.
F
B
Hours
were
spent
on
on
the
case
and
all
the
other
things
is
that
how
it
works.
It's
the
building
permit
fee
to
legalize
that
structure.
But
if
we
want
to
use
the
hammer,
we
could
charge
10
up
to
10
times
of
that
building
per
minute
fee
or
the
one
time
is
just
the
regular
building
permitting
just
just
just
trying
to
get
into
compliance.
Okay
got
it.
A
C
Just
really
quickly,
so
I
had
similar
concerns
to
the
to
the
vice
mayor,
about
the
compounding
of
these
fees
and
how
they
impact
projects
that
maybe
not
large-scale
projects,
and
it
did.
It
does
seem
we'll
start
looking
at
all
these
additional
things,
and
I
understand
that
we
want
to
recover
as
much
as
we
can,
but
it
really
does
seem
like
we
get
to
the
point
where
some
of
these
things
should
be
accounted
for
somehow
and
the
basic
some
basic
services
that
should
be
included
as
part
of
issuing
permits
and
reviewing
plans.
C
So
you
know
I
I
will.
You
know,
put
my
faith
in
step
that
they
analyze
this
and
they
understand.
You
know
what
the
day-to-day
impact
is
of
these
things,
and
so
I
won't
question
it,
but
I
do
feel
like
it
gets
complicated
to
understand,
what's
involved
in
a
project
when
there's
this
many
separate
fees,
rather
than
sort
of
bundling
things
or
perhaps
some
way,
aggregating
these
fees
so
that
they're
simpler
to
understand
and
somebody
who
doesn't
do
this
for
a
living
can
pick
up.
C
You
know
what
the
their
fee
schedule
and
understand
what
what
they're
in
for
the
the
my
real
question,
though,
was
around.
You
know
when,
when
they're
rvs
and
I
understand
that
they
don't
have
to
be
imposed
and
it's
up
to
the
building
official
to
determine
when
they're
when
they're
enforced.
But
is
there
a
mechanism
for
those
to
be
appealed
to
the
city
manager
like
some
other
fees,
that
where
there
is
discretion
from
staff
to
charge
or
not
charge.
B
F
If
I
may
to
the
attorney
through
the
mayor,
thank
you.
So
our
code
has
a
provision
which
says
that
if
an
appeal
mechanism
is
not
otherwise
specified,
then
there
can
be
an
appeal
to
the
city
council.
F
F
If
I
can
piggyback
off
that
please
councilmember
salazar
and
talking
about
this
item,
you
said
the
word
b
and
I
want
to
clarify
that
this
is
actually
a
penalty
which
doesn't
have
to
have
a
relation
to
the
cost
board
right
and
the
one
of
the
rationales
for
staff.
Recommending
this.
This
new
penalty
for
work
done
without
permit
is
that
we
have
a
number
of
properties
that
have
been
out
of
compliance
for
quite
some
time
and.
C
And
you
know
whether
they're
downtown
or
throughout
the
city,
one
of
the
things
things
that
we
think
we
need
is
a
stronger
tool
to
try
and
get
compliance
for
people
that
are
doing
work
without
permit.
But
it
will
not.
It
is
not
in
it.
It
has
never
been
the
first
tool
that
goes
to
this
is
truly
a
penalty
and
will
be
used
as
such.
C
Okay,
all
right,
thank
you,
and
my
concern
was
really
there's
been
complaints
in
the
past,
where
individuals
have
felt
that
they
were
not
treated
equitably
and
that
perhaps
the
staff
was
holding
a
grudge,
or
you
know
they
had
run-ins
before
and
so
now
that
they
felt
they
were
getting
penalized
where
other
people
weren't,
and
so
when
there
is
latitude
like
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
that
people
at
least
have
an
opportunity
to
present
their
case
to
someone
and
make
sure
that
there
is
no.
C
You
know
lack
of
fairness
in
the
process.
So
thank
you
for
the
explanation.
A
Councilmember
medina
is
that
a
handful
from
before.
Okay,
thanks
on
the
appeal
aspect,
I
noticed
that
there
are
appeals
and,
of
course
there
is
a
a
fee,
whether
it's
at
various
level.
If
you
want
to
appeal
the
director
or
appeal
to
planning
commission,
if
the
appeal
is
heard
and
that
appeal
the
the
applicant
wins,
the
appeal
is
that
refunded,
or
is
that
just
part
of
the
cost
to
have
gotten
there,
even
if
they
win
the
appeal.
F
Not
a
penalty
of
course
we
don't
penalize
people
for
appealing
and
so
there's
not
a
provision
for
a
refund.
If
the
person
is
successful,.
A
A
Mr
mayor
you're
turned
away
from
your
microphone
and
we
can't
hear
you
yes,
I
saw
I
saw
councilmember
hamilton,
giving
me
my
signal,
like
turn
around
on.
Thank
you,
though
city
manager,
on
the
picnic
sites.
My
understanding
is,
I
see
the
fees
and
there
is
one
deposit
for
potential
cleaning,
the
way
large
picnic
area
city
park
for
team
becker
shelter.
A
I
know
I
believe,
was
councilmember
medina
who
in
the
past
had
brought
up.
Do
we
do
deposits
for
the
sites
in
general?
I
can
go
back
in
history,
but
let's
not
go
there.
Let's
go
forward,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
is
still
just
for
the
one
site.
I'm
also
curious
back
in
the
rental
aspect.
You
know
you
you.
I
look
to
tennis
courts
for
camber.
No,
it's
forty
dollars
that
I
saw
listed
for
an
hour,
I'm
going
off
memory
now
from
the
report
and
in
other
communities.
A
So
what
I
guess
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
you
know:
are
we
also
going
and
giving
a
good
faith
effort
to
compare
to
our
our
neighbors
and
seeing
that
we're
being
fair
to
folks
who
are
renting
on
these
various
items,
whether
it's
our
facilities,
whether
it's
our
tennis
courts,
whether
it's
our
lights,
etcetera
and
that's?
Basically,
the
question
for
that
for
that
department
and
I'll
stop
for
the
next
okay.
A
Thank
you
mayor
medina.
So
you
just
asked
several
questions
about
the
city's
community
service
fees.
Staff
is
tonight
not
proposing
any
specific
change
to
those
fees
outside
of
cpi
increase
increases,
and
so
I
do
not
have
the
director
or
someone
from
the
community
services
department
here
to
respond
to
how
they
operate
those
fees,
and
I
I
don't
want
to
do
a
misstatement.
So
why
don't
we
take
those
as
a
note
and
provide
a
a
response
to
council
at
a
later
date?
A
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
and,
and
one
thing
just
as
a
curiosity
when
it
says
oversized
overweight
vehicle
per
per
route
per
per
time.
I
that
was
more
of
a
curious
question,
because
somebody
asked
me-
and
I
said
I
don't
know:
how
do
you
quantify
that,
based
on
how
a
resident
would
read
that
they
go
okay,
so
who's
emulating
each
time,
because
the
way
it
is
interpreted
there
and
that's
how
it's?
A
That
is
something
that
could
be
followed
up.
I
am
not
clear
at
a
later
time,
but
I
think
that's
just
just
for
clarity
and
mr
mayor.
If
I
can,
what
portion
of
the
feast
federal
are
you
referencing,
because
that
may
be
one
that
we
can't
answer.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
yeah,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
have
to
find
it
because
I'm
scrolling
up
and
down
right
now
and
and
why
I
go
to
public
comment
I'll,
try
to
find
that
and
let's
just
stop,
I'm
sorry
go
ahead.
Yeah.
A
I
believe
that
you
were
referring
to
is
an
oversized
vehicle
traversing
on
city
street,
so
typically
that
you
know
let's
say:
there's
a
big
project
and
they're
actually
going
to
move
a
building
right
and
and
they're
moving
a
large
oversized
building
the
the
route
would
be
sort
of
based
on
the
route
that
the
approved
route
that
they
take,
and
so
it's
it's
really
more
of
a
unique
fee
item.
That's
in
the
fee
schedule.
A
People
may
have
that,
but
we
probably
very
frequently
very
infrequently
have
an
oversized
vehicle
route,
specially
approved
where
we're
charging
that
fee,
okay
and
and
then
to
you
know.
I
I
think
what
we
folks
that
are
developers
and
are
in
the
construction
trade.
I
think
they
they
know
of
those
fees
and
and
how
it
increases.
But
I
think
at
times
we
also
get
our
residents
who
are
very
taken
back
what
you
need
to
permit
for
and
then
the
actual
cost.
A
When
you
go
in
and
go
through
that
process,
I
think
it's
almost
like
sticker
shock-
and
I
know
sometimes
even
with
you
know
water
heaters
people
want
to
have
it
have
it
inspected.
So
we
should
know
it's
safe,
it's
safe
for
that
resident,
it's
safe
for
the
neighborhood
etc.
So
I
also
just
have
concerns
about
us.
Not
we.
A
We
need
to
recoup
costs,
but
not
going
so
far
so
hard
so
fast
that
it
makes
a
resident
say
you
know
not
wanting
to
do
the
right
thing
because
of
the
burden
cost
and
I
know,
there's
a
cost
of
doing
business,
but
that's
also
a
concern
I
have,
but
I
was
there
and
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
go
ahead.
This
is
a
public
hearing,
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
in
public.
A
If
there's
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
if
they
could
raise
their
their
hand
now,
at
this
time
and
we'll
have
the
city
clerk
bring
them
in.
A
A
Medina
hi,
thank
you
very
much
and
now
we'll
bring
it
back
to
council
for
other
comments,
questions,
deliberation
and
or
action.
Please
vice
mayor.
A
City
hall,
please
director,
can
you
take
that
and
I
believe
what
vice
player
mason
is
talking
about?
Is
when
we're
taking
a
cold
enforcement
action.
The
the
noticing
requirements
before
the
penalty
is
is.
D
Assessed
is
that
correct?
Are
you
because
you're
talking
about
noticing
before
penalty,
are
you
talking
about
noticing
before
a
fee,
because
the
the
people
are
typically
the
fee
for
service?
I
would
say
the
new
there's
a
these
new
fees
that
are
before
us
tonight.
Where's
the
noticing
process
for
those
of
these.
A
D
D
No
no
you're
very
close,
but
but
specifically
where's
it
in
writing.
A
I
was
close,
but
not
not
on
mark
thanks
city
hall,
so
I
actually
think
we're
talking
about
two
separate
things:
I'm
going
to
share
a
screen
really
quick,
because
it's
probably
the
the
best
way
and
so
in
the
powerpoint.
F
We
talked
about
the
noticing
requirements
that
we
provided
for
the
for
the
bees,
and
so
what
what's
legally
required
is
that
we
we
published
a
legal
ad
in
the
paper
which
we
did
on
two
occasions.
F
F
That
a
penalty
is
not
assessed
and
people
are
given
notice
before
the
penalty
of
the
test?
That
is
in
the
city's.
D
I
believe
it's
our
code
enforcement
handbook,
where
we
provide
instructions
to
staff
on
how
on
how
they
do
their
co-enforcement
work,
and
so
that
is
not
a
city
council
policy
that
says
someone
must
have
one
notice,
two
notices,
three
notices
before
a
fee
is
assessed,
but
but
that
is
delegated
to
staff
and
that's
in
our
code
enforcement
handler
and
our
actually
director
will
not
in
their
head
because
code
enforcement
used
to
be
in
that
department.
So
just
just
so
that's
a
it's
clear.
D
So
if
you
issue
somebody
a
stop
work
notice,
the
stop
work
notice
essentially
is
saying:
stop
stop
what
you're
doing
you're
doing
something
in
violation
of
our
code
right
some
code,
ordinance
law,
whatever
no
fees
assessed
at
that
time.
They're
gonna
have
some
period
of
time
once
that
notice
is
issued
to
correct
whatever
the
situation
is.
Is
that
correct?
D
No,
that's
not
true!
So
so,
let's
talk
about
specific
piece
so
specific
for
a
stop
work
notice.
Let's
talk
about
what
happens
right
now.
What
happens
right
now,
if
there's
a
code
enforcement
violation
or
there's
a
complainer
or
an
inspector
driving
by
and
they
see
someone
doing,
work,
they'll,
stop
they'll,
do
an
investigation
and
then
they'll
eventually
issue
a
stop
work,
work
notice.
So
at
this
point
there
and
under
our
currency
schedule,
no
the
doing
the
work
receives
the
stop
work
notice
and
no
fees
are
assessed.
D
Although
the
city
has
extended
its
code
enforcement
resources
and
does
an
investigation,
so
the
new
stock
work
notice
fee
is
intended
to
recoup
the
city's
costs
for
issuing
that
stop
work
notice.
Now,
when
you
talk
about
noticing,
there
is
no
noticing
requirement
for
a
stop
work
notice,
nor
nor
is
there
typically
in
municipalities,
because
someone
is
doing
uncommitted
work.
You
really
need
to
issue
that
stop
work
order.
You
don't
provide
them
with
the
notice
to
continue
doing
unpermitted
work
there,
but
I
think
there's
a
difference
here.
B
I'll
jump
in
and
give
some
real
scenario
questions.
So
a
building
inspector
is
on
the
job.
He
is
only
to
inspect
abortion
that
has
gone
through
the
plan
check
and
infection.
I
realized
that
there
are
other
work,
that's
been
done.
That
was
never
included
in
the
scope,
so
the
time
spent
on
that
effort
could
be
very
minimal
compared
to
a
property
that
never
came
to
the
city
hall
to
get
any
building
permit.
So
we
don't
want
to
do
a
one
size,
stop
work,
notice
fee
or
the
compliance
investigation
fee.
B
We
want
to
assess
based
on
the
situation,
so
if
there
is
a
stop
org
notice
and
then
typically
it's
not
a
customized
letter,
but
it's
a
stop
work
notice
to
notify
the
property
owner
and
also
contractor
to
discontinue
whatever
they're
doing
come
to
city
hall,
get
the
proper
permits
to
continue
and
the
fee
we're
posing
as
a
city
manager.
Global
mission
is
to
recuperate
the
staff
time.
That's
spent
on
this
effort
and
the
fee
proposal
is
in
half.
H
D
D
And
how
and
what
those
unanticipated
impacts
would
be
to
the
city
we
have.
You
know.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
be
provided
with
an
update
on
what
has
occurred
with
the
fees
that
have
been
in
place
and
then
with
the
new
contractors
that
we
have
that
began
or
continued
under
a
new
contract
in
january.
D
What's
going
on
with
those
those
were
supposed
to
improve
efficiencies
as
well?
Has
there
been
any
cost
recovery
there?
There
was
a
consensus
to
request
a
process
update
from
those
new
vendors.
I
just
feel
like.
We
are
really
kind
of
nickel
and
diming
at
this
point-
and
I
maybe
maybe
I'm
wrong-
maybe
I'm
naive
to
this,
but
this
just
seems
like
a
lot
and,
like
I
said
I
supported
the
phasing
in
we've
already
approved
that,
but
this
isn't
even
what
the
consultants
recommended
right.
D
This
is
what
the
consultants
recommended,
plus
more
which
again
I
appreciate,
because
I
think
that's
part
of
the
task
is
to
try
to
recuperate
as
much
as
possible,
but
I
think
when
you're
driving,
I
think
the
example
javon
you
gave
is
the
concern
that
I
have
as
one
of
the
prime
examples
is
you
have
a
staff
member
driving
by
someone's
doing
work?
It's
not
on
the
docket
of
the
city.
D
In
addition
to
that,
there's
some
kind
of
an
investigation
that
now
they're
in
you
know
now
they're
in
their
name,
is
on
their
address
is
on,
and
then
there
may
be
a
pecuniary
fee
on
top
of
that,
and
it
concerns
me
that
it's
going
to
be
hard
to
incentivize
individuals
to
improve
their
property,
especially
when
there's
really
no
understanding
of
the
process.
There's
no
outline
of
what
that
process
looks.
D
Like
I
mean
even
with
hearings,
administrative
hearings,
there's
a
process,
that's
in
writing
and
it
just
doesn't
feel
like
that's
an
existence
for
us
to
pass
this
and
then
work
our
way
backwards.
To
make
sure
that
individuals
have
some
kind
of
a
administrative
process
where
they
can.
You
know
appeal
or
they
and
even
appealing
it
is
going
to
be
time
consuming
and
a
whole
different
process.
D
You
know
itself,
so
I
don't
know,
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
exactly
it
is
that
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here
with
some
of
these
newer
fees
and
maybe
we'll
get
you
know
to
generating
more
revenue.
But
I'd
be
really
curious
to
know
where
we
are
with
the
approvals
we
made
last
year
that
were
implemented
in
september.
A
F
So
generally,
what
would
happen
somebody
would
call
or
or
the
infected
would
be
driving
by
and
seeing
somebody
doing
a
lot
of
work
outside
whether
it
would
be
like
somebody
bringing
a
bunch
of
two
by
fours
and
tearing
off
a
roof
or
or
something
clearly
going
on
and
most
of
them
most
often
than
not.
My
experience
has
been
it's
someone
nearby
in
the
neighborhood
calling
saying:
hey,
they've
been
they've
been
banging
in
the
backyard
and
there's
there's
an
addition
going
on
or
they're
they're
doing
something
major.
F
They
call
into
the
to
call
the
code
enforcement
law
enforcement
goes
out,
knocks
on
the
door
most
often
they're,
not
nobody
answers
the
door
and
then
has
to
post
a
stop
work,
notice,
sign,
saying
and
it's
and
it's
pretty
much
a
form
triplex
form
or
whatever
they
call
it.
You
have
to
press
real
hard
and
there's
try
copy
right,
and
then
you
post
that
and
then
you
ask
them.
F
There's
a
bunch
of
checks
marks,
you
can
put
what
allegedly
went
on
and
you
ask
them
to
contact
you
and
you
go
on
your
way
to
do
other
things
right
more
often
than
not.
Ninety
percent
of
the
time
somebody
calls
calls
you
back,
hey
yeah,
I'm
doing
this.
I'm
doing
that
and
it's
like
oh
yeah,
well,
need
a
permit
for
that.
Oh
they
didn't
tell
me
or
I
didn't
know
or
the
the
contractor,
the
handyman
said
he's
getting
a
permit.
He
said
he
got
a
permit.
I
didn't
know:
okay,
no
problem.
F
So
I
hope
that
helps
a
little
bit.
It's
been
going
on
for
a
long
time.
This
is
a
way
to
actually
recover
some
of
that
revenue
and
in
the
past
they
would
just
open
a
code
enforcement
case
and
start
tracking
this
time,
and
here
it's
a
little
spelled
out
it'll
look
better
because
it
can
get
pretty
complicated
pretty
fast.
F
D
That
helps
it
is
helpful,
and
I
would
just
say
that
I
would
feel
more
confident
about
this
if
there
was
a
process
in
place
to
ensure
that
this
is
happening
consistently
across
the
board
with
everybody
in
the
same
way,
and
that
that's
where
I
think,
in
addition,
I
underst,
I
can
understand
the
fee,
but
only
when
we've
already
provided
proper
warning
to
the
individual
to
try
to
cure.
Whatever
the
issue
is
before
we
start
charging
them.
G
I
think
I
have.
F
A
few
comments,
so
regarding
the
the
fact
that
we
raised
fees
in
september
and
are
now
going
to
raise
them
again
in
july,
I
completely
understand
that
this
is
a
one-time
thing
to
get
us
on
the
right
skin
on
the
right
schedule,
and
I'm
I'm
okay
with
that.
It's
not
like
we're
going
to
be
raising
them
again
in
in
eight
months.
You
know
this.
F
You
know
we're
now
going
to
be
on
the
correct
schedule
to
be
able
to
budget
properly
with
the
new
fees
in
place
regarding
the
the
fees
themselves
and
the
new
fees.
Maybe
what
would
help
would
be
to-
and
I
know
that
we
had
this
when
we
did
the
last
review
of
these-
would
be
for
the
new
fees
to
see
what
our
neighbors
are
charging
you
know
if
these
are
these,
are
you
know,
standard
fees
that
are
that
are
being
charged
in
our
neighboring
cities?
F
That
makes
it
a
lot
more
palatable
to
say
you
know
this,
isn't
something!
This
is
that
you
know
this
is
this
is
standard.
This
is
not
something
that
that
we're
doing
in
san
bruno
that
isn't
that
it's
not
being
done
somewhere
else.
I'm
wondering
if
that
is
a
possibility
that
we
can
just
get
a
review
from
our
from
our
neighbors
of
for
for
the
new
fees
that
are
being
proposed.
Added
to
the
fee
schedule.
The
new
and
increased
fees
where
they
sit
in
relation
or
neighbors
is
that
feasible.
B
Sure
I'll
take
this
one
calculator
hamilton,
it
is
certainly
doable.
We
have
some
research
done
for
some
of
the
fees.
It's
not
a
matter
of.
If
other
cities
are
doing
it
or
not,
it's
all
city
you're
doing
it.
It's
on
the
magnitude
of
how
much
so
we
could
certainly
come
back.
If
that's
what
the
council
desires
to
show
what
the
neighboring
cities
are
doing.
I
do
kind
of
want
to
point
out
two
fees
that
were
pointed
out
as
new
fees
as
we
showed
on
the
slide.
B
One
of
them
is
a
temporary
occupancy
review
as
council
member
medina
mentioned.
This
is
not
an
easy
task
for
anyone
who
doesn't
have
the
final
but
wish
to
get
a
temporary
occupancy
review,
we're
talking
with
fire
public
works
planning,
building
it's
hours
of
coordination
and,
at
this
point
we're
offering
that
services
for
free
same
thing
with
requests
for
a
new
address
adu
when
they
have
a
new
adu,
they
need
to
have
a
new
address
and
who
do
they
need
to
coordinate.
B
We
need
to
coordinate
with
fire,
pd
post
office
and
a
whole
lot
of
other
staff
to
make
sure
this
address
makes
sense
again.
Our
spend
on
that
ever
is
covered
by
the
city.
There's
no
cost
recovery
same
thing
with
stop
work
notice,
so
we
have
been
doing
a
lot
of
these
work
for
free,
essentially
for
a
lot
of
time,
we're
recommending
a
small
fee
based
on
one
hour
or
half
an
hour
increment.
Depending
on
the
magnitude
of
these
services.
B
We
can
certainly
come
back
and
provide
a
comparison
to
other
cities
are
doing
my
chief
building,
official
and
and
the
management
analyst
came
from
rebel
city.
So
the
first
thing
they
said
to
me
is
these
views
are
substantially
lower
than
redwood
city.
I
don't
know
how
much
lower,
but
I
can
I
can
share
with
you.
If
again
the
council
wishes
and
will
provide
that
matrix
to
you.
F
A
That
piece
of
information
might
help
help
us
get
to
the
end,
certainly
so,
if
I
can't
hold
on
please
thank
you
director.
Thank
you,
council
member.
Was
it
councilman
hamilton
when
you've
done
with
your
okay?
I
just
your
mic
hadn't
gone
up
and
then
yeah,
please
to
city
hall
yeah.
A
I
just
wanted
to
elaborated
on
staff
elaborate
on
staff's
response
to
council
member
hamilton's
question,
because
what
I
understand
the
question
is:
let's
set
aside
the
fees
that
are
increasing
per
council
prior
direction
and
concentrate
on
potentially
potentially
getting
additional
benchmarking
data
around
the
newly
proposed
fees.
A
I
think
one
timing
issue
with
that
is
that
for
the
fees
to
take
effect
on
july
1
and
to
have
60
days,
we
would
need
council
to
take
that
action
by
may
1.,
and
so
that
means
that
we
would
need
to
come
back
to
the
city
council
at
your
all
april
26
meeting
with
that
benchmarking
information
and
while
that
is
potentially
doable,
we
can
do
that.
A
My
recommendation,
if
there's
a
desire
to
adopt
the
fees
that
council
has
prior
directed
but
receive
a
little
bit
more
information,
is
that
you
actually
adopt
all
the
fees
and
then
we
can
provide
the
city
council
with
a
off
agenda
memo
on
the
benchmarking,
and
should
there
be
a
desire
to
hold
back
or
adjust
one
or
two
of
the
fees.
We
can
do
that
during
the
60-day
window.
That
we
were
not
sort
of.
A
Council
member
hamilton
did
you
have
a
follow-up
to
that,
because
that
was
your
question
yeah
I
mean
that
sort
of
seems
like
a
reasonable
course
of
action
that
you
know
it
gives
us
the
flexibility
to
be
able
to
raise
your
hand
and
say
wait
a
minute
this
this
particular
one
seems
out
of
whack,
and
you
know:
can
we
talk
about
that,
but
but
without
jeopardizing
making
the
the
deadline
and
getting
them
in
place
for
july
1
the
the
bulk
of
the
fees,
so
I
would
be
in
support
of
that
vice
mayor
mason.
D
I
I
would
propose
to
try
to
get
to
some
consensus
that
if
there's
an
error
where
I
would,
I
guess
lean
in
more-
would
probably
be
based
on
the
council
recommendation
if
we
have
to
for
the
july
1st,
and
actually
I
need
to
begin
the
july.
D
1St
increases
the
ones
that
have
already
been
approved
and
then
propose
to
council
that
we
remove
all
of
the
the
additional
fees
that
were
not
in
the
schedule
and
we
get
more
information
on
those
these,
because
I
think
what
the
city
manager
said
it
is
correct.
D
That's
that
we
gave
so
I
say
we
because
I
was
part
of
that
too,
but
that
we
gave
the
staff,
but
I
think
my
biggest
concern
if
I
had
to
pick
one
was
all
these
new
fees
that
you
know.
We
didn't
really
talk
about,
I'm
still
not
clear
on
on
what
the
rights
of
the
individual
owners
are
and
how
these
compare
to
other
cities
and
whether
they
even
have
some
of
these
fees
and
what
those
would
be.
So
I'd
be
comfortable
with
that.
If
the
council
wants
to
move
forward.
Thank
you.
F
So
if
we
were
to
do
that,
that
would
he
know
that
all
that
none
of
the
new
fees
could
possibly
go
into
effect
for
july,
even
if
we,
even
if
we
discuss
them
and
find
them
to
be
fine
from
what
I
am
understood
from
what
the
city
manager
just
said,
we
have
the
right
to
once
we
get
all
the
information
we
have
those
discussions
during
the
60-day
window.
F
A
And
then
they
would
not
go
into
effect
as
long
as
we
make
that
as
long
as
we
would
have
that
discussion
in
that
vote
before
july,
1st
is
that
city
manager?
Could
you
clarify
that
correct
city
manager?
Could
you
between
what
councilman
hamilton
said
and
the
vice
mayor,
maybe.
F
About
two
different
models:
vice
mayor
mason,
is
articulating
a
model
where
all
of
the
current
fees
are
and
increases
that
are
being
increased
based
on
a
prior
direction
of
the
council.
Either
a
phase,
an
increase,
a
cpi
increase
or
increasing
by
another
index,
would
go
forward,
but
we
would
hold
off
on
any
of
the
new
proposed
fees
until
council
can
discuss
it
again,
which
would
I
think,
essentially
mean
that
they're
not
in
place
by
july.
One
model
model.
F
One
model:
two:
is
the
city
council
adopts
staff
recommendations
for
all
of
the
fees,
those
prior
directed
as
well
as.
A
The
new
ones-
and
there
has
been
a
request
for
additional
benchmarking
information
on
the
new
fees
staff-
would
provide
that
and
should
the
city,
any
member
of
the
city
council,
actually
want
to
say,
hey.
I
want
to
discuss
this
because
I
potentially
want
to
pull
back.
We
would
re-agendize
that
discussion
and
take
direction,
but
but
if
that
doesn't
happen,
they
would
go
into
effect
on
july,
1.
F
And
then
we,
and
then
we
you
know,
potentially
have
to
wait
until
september
to
adopt
the
the
new
fees
and
then
we're
back
out
of
whack
again
for
another
year.
I
think
this
gives
us
the
maximum
flexibility,
and
I
think
the
other
thing
to
mention
as
well
is
the
the
further
discussions,
wouldn't
necessarily
be
about
just
about
the
benchmarking,
but
the
other
concerns
that
the
vice
mayor
and
and
others
have
brought
up
about.
F
F
I
think
we're
gonna,
find
and,
and
also
I'm
fine
with
as
the
city
manager
proposed
to
go
ahead
and
let
these
go
through
and
we
can
come
back
and
pull
off
anything
that
we
want.
I
think
we're
going
to
find
out
that
these
new
fees
are
reasonable.
F
They
are
in
increments
of
a
half
an
hour
and
based
on
the
time
for,
for
the
individual,
typically
doing
the
work.
So
I'm
in
support
of
moving
forward
with
this,
as
proposed
by.
A
A
It
could
be
before
after
the
vote,
but
I
I
think
it
maybe
we're
pulling
up
the
slide
for
the
new
fees
and
just
having
a
quick
discussion
if
we
can
narrow
down
that
list
on
the
additional
benchmarking
analysis
that
council
is
requesting,
because
I'm
just
going
through
it
again,
and
I
think
that
there's
some
fees
that
we're
actually
changing
versus
being
new
right,
we're
removing
the
deposit
and
saying
actual
cost,
and
so
it
could
actually
be
higher
or
lower.
You
know,
does
council
want
additional
benchmarking
work
on
that
too.
A
A
A
F
If
we,
so
this
is
the
first
slide
of
new
fees,
I
I
think
we
have
had
significant
discussion
around
the
stop
work
notice,
the
cold
compliance,
the
temporary
certificate
of
occupancy,
and
we
haven't
talked
about
the
new
address
change,
but
these
are
sort
of
the
the
the
new
fees
that
I
I
think
I
hear
council
saying.
We
want
to
mix
benchmarking
around
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
data
around
one
two.
Three
and
four.
You
can
see
my
cursor
and
then
on
this
the
mitigated
negative
declaration.
F
We
have
a
currency
of
ten
thousand
dollars.
Staff's
recommendation
is
just
to
do
actual
costs,
because
sometimes
it
could
be
more
than
ten
thousand.
Sometimes
that
could
be
less
than
ten
thousand,
but
we
we
don't
have
a
fee
that
cash
the
amount
and
we
do
actual
costs,
and
so
my
readers
from
council
discussion
is
that
you
may
not
need
additional
staff
work
around
this.
F
With
regard
to
sp
330,
this
is
actually
a
new
fee,
because
sb
330
is
a
relatively
new
law
and
we're
getting
developments
that
are
asking
for
a
preliminary
review
of
their
sb
330
application,
and
so
I'm
you
know,
I
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
council
wants
additional
benchmarking
around
this,
because
and
so
I'd
ask
for
clarification
on
that.
Condo
use.
Permit
is
the
same
thing
with
the
mitigative
negative
declarations.
F
It's
taken
off
the
cap
and
charge
an
actual
cost
expanded,
categorical
exemption,
that's
a
new
fee
that
may
be
more
common
in
other
jurisdictions,
and
so
we
can
provide
benchmarking
around
that
one
and
then
the
variance
is
again
taking
off
the
cap
and
the
marking
actual
cost.
And
so,
if
I
look
at
the
ones
on
here,
I
guess
you
know
I'm
I'm
reading,
probably
in
between
the
lines
on
staff's
conversation,
but
the
one
that
I
think
that
staff
is
asking
or
counsel
backing
for
more
work
on
is
stop
work.
A
Cold
compliance,
temporary
certificate
request
for
new
address
and
expanded
categorical
exemption
is
my
summary
sort
of
correct,
so
thank
you.
I
think
you
gave
a
good
summary
council
how
the
city
manager
divided
it
up.
It
was
kind
of
like
new
fees
for
benchmarking
and
then
direct
deposits
are
the
become
the
now
the
actual
cost.
A
So
if
that
makes
sense,
is
that
kind
of
what
we're
looking
for
on
this
slide?
Would
that
be
fair,
councilmember
hamilton?
I.
F
Agree
with
all
that
I
would
suggest.
Maybe
we
have
the
variance
one
as
well
just
to
see
what
other
jurisdictions
are
doing
for
for
ransoms.
I
mean
I'm,
I'm
absolutely
in
favor
of
getting
all
of
our
costs.
That
would
cost.
A
Back,
but
I
would
always
like
to
see
what
other
jurisdictions
are
doing
for
the
variants
as
well,
so
that
does
impact
anyone
else
based
on
what
the
manager
had
articulated
thumbs
up
from
mr
medina,
I,
I
guess
a
thumbs
up
thumbs
up
from
director
blue.
B
No
mr
mcmichael
has
asked
for
a
clarification,
so
expanded
category
exemption,
that's
more
or
less
along
the
line
of
the
sql
document.
So
a
lot
of
times
that
if
this
is
a
large
enough
project,
we
may
ask
for
a
sql
consultant
to
prepare
and
usually,
if
they're
just
covered
as
part
of
reimbursement
agreement.
But
there
are
opportunities
where
city
staff
can
provide
that.
So
we'll
certainly
look
around.
We
may
not
be
able
to
get
a
lot
of
benchmarking
on
that
on
that
fee,
but
if
we
do
we'll
definitely
include
a
matrix.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
so
mr
hamilton
had
had
an
audition
but
other
than
that.
Okay,
mr
medina,
okay,
okay,
so
that
is
the
first
four
on
this
document
and
the
last
two
okay,
okay,
and
so
then,
if
we
go
to
the
next,
I
think
there's
the.
F
Certificate
of
occupancy
deposit-
that
is
a
new
fee,
that
council
would
like
benchmarking
on
technology
fee,
we're
only
including
fire
as
a
department
that
was
left
off.
That
has
significant
technology
related
to
our
development
review
services
because
they
have
a
review
component,
and
so
I
would
assume
that
we
do
not
want
benchmarking
around
that.
The
administrative
need
for
that
fourth
plan
check:
we
didn't
talk
about
that,
but
it's
a
new
fee
newspaper
rack.
A
And
general
plan
maintenance
fee.
I
think
we
can
provide
benchmarking
around
those
pretty
pretty
effortless
effortless
pretty
easy.
So
I
no
issue
there
so
one
and
last
three
would
be
I'm
sort
of
reading
them
between
the
lines.
What
council
divides?
A
Miss
rico
agrees.
Marty
agrees
just
so
we
don't
confuse
the
medina's.
Does
that
work
for
the
others?
I
can't
see
you.
C
C
Mr
mayor,
I
yeah,
if
I
could
just
yeah,
please
comment
around.
You
know
doing
these
baselines
in
my
experience
you
know
these
kind
of
studies,
usually
they
can
be
anywhere
between
interesting
to
completely
useless,
and
so
I
would
just
ask
that
you
know
if
we.
If
we
go
through
this
exercise,
there's
really
got
to
be
context
to
what
you're
looking
at
or
or
it's
just
I
I
don't.
C
I
don't
think
we
want
to
make
determinations
on
what
our
fees
should
be
just
based
on
the
fact
that
nobody
else
is
charging
them
or
that
you
know
somebody's
charging
way
more,
that
we
should
question
what
our
true
cost
of
doing.
The
same
thing
is:
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
differences
in
the
way
other
cities
are
staffed,
the
size
of
their
departments
that
are
doing
the
sort
of
work,
the
types
of
projects
they
typically
get,
and
sometimes
you
know
it's
like
when
we
look
at
garbage
fees.
C
It's
never
just
a
you
know
what
is
one
city
charge
per
container
because
there's
offsets
from
what
you
do
with
commercial
versus
what
you
do
with
residential,
and
so
you
know
I
if,
if
we're
gonna
make
staff
go
through
the
effort
of
doing
this,
I
just
want
to
add
that
we
really
need
to
make
it.
You
know
there
has
to
be
some
context
to
what
we
get
back.
Otherwise,
it's
just
it's
just
noise,
so
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
asking
staff
to
do
too
much.
C
You
know,
based
on
you
know
some
some
potential
questions
on
this.
I
think
for
the
most
part,
you
know,
I
would
say,
I'm
not
100
comfortable
with
this,
but
I
am
satisfied.
Staff
has
done
enough
analysis
on
these
to
give
us
good
estimates
on
what
it
really
cost
us
to
do
it.
I
I
do
share
the
vice
mayor's
concerns
on
on
the
process
and
that's
really
a
separate
conversation
from
the
fees
and
that
I
do
believe
it's
something
we
need
to
revisit
at
some
point.
C
C
So
if
I
can't
do
the
mayor,
thank
you,
council,
member
salazar.
For
that
comment.
The
staff
work
that
I
understand
to
be
requested
from
council
is
benchmarking,
so
we
would
look
at
a
number
of
our
cities
and
provide
what
their
fees
are.
But
you
are
absolutely
right
that
when
setting
these
councils
should
consider
a
a
whole
host
of
other
factors
and
oftentimes
in
fee
settings,
benchmarking
isn't
done
because
you
have
to
charge
based
on.
A
Your
on
your
cost,
but
oftentimes
what
policy
makers
also
like
to
know
is
just
you
know.
I
know
I
have
to
base
it
off
my
cost.
But
what
is
my
neighbor
charge
right,
and
so
we
will
provide
the
data
that
we
can
assess
on
what
neighbors
are
charging.
But
absolutely
council
should
not
simply
look
at
that
information
and
say
that
you
know
we
want
to
charge
the
average
of
the
neighbors
or
be
higher
or
lower
based
on
the
benchmark
data.
A
A
Thank
you,
and
so
then
the
last
one
was
the
work
without
a
permit
fee
that
I
think
council
is
asking
for
benchmarking
around.
I
see
not
so
I'll
move
on
and
then
the
minimum
having
a
minimum
for
building
public
works
work.
This
council
was
to
have
data
around.
C
I'm
comfortable
with
it,
but
I
would
want
to
defer
to
councilmember
medina,
who
had
who
had
a
lot
of
questions
about
this
one
earlier.
So,
could
I
ask
just
a
point
of
clarification
on
this
one?
So
when
we
talk
about
this
is
really
just
extracting
12,
either
12
or
171
of
an
established
permit
fee
and
assigning
that
to
public
works.
This
is
not
increasing
the
cost
of
the
permit
fee
correct,
correct,
okay,
yeah,
in
which
case
I
don't
think
we
need
to
baseline
what
we
allocate
to
public
works.
C
Perfect.
Thank
you,
council,
for
allowing.
A
Thank
you
very
much
city
manager
for
your
help
and
guiding
us
through
that.
Thank
you.
So
with
that
I'll
bring
it
back
to
council,
if
there's
any
action
on
the
resolution
with
the
additions
of
what
we,
the
exercise
that
we
just
went
through
as
far
as
benchmarks
and
those
being
dialogue.
D
A
Viceroy,
you
would
be
correct
that
this
would
be
option
to
the
actual.
What
we
just
went
through
is
saying
this
is
what
we
want
information
back
on
the
benchmarks
and
then,
within
that
60-day
period
it
can
have
a
city,
council,
member
and
say
hey.
I
want
us
to
really
hone
in
on
this
one
and
maybe
have
it
reduced,
or
what
have
you
but
option?
Two
is
a
correct
statement.
A
Yes,
we
would
be
approving
those
with
those
everything
would
be
approved,
you're
correct
with
those
benchmarks
coming
back,
which
would
allow
opportunity
still
to
make
a
modification,
if
themed
with
council
approval,
of
course,
and
please
somebody
correct
me
or
staff.
If
I
articulated
that
incorrectly.
A
But
I
think,
though,
vice
mayor
clearly
wants
to
know
if
the
resolution
is
passed
depending
on
how
it's
worded
would
all
these
start
to
go
into
effect
so
july
1
they
would
take
effect.
Yes,
unless
there's
something
within
the
benchmarks
that
we're
looking
at
if
options
is
included
with
that
verbiage.
That
is
true.
So
the
motion
would
be
to
implement
the
staff
recommendation
in
the
appropriate
motion
language,
but
also
direct
staff
to
return
to
the
city
count
to
provide
for
the
city
council
additional
benchmarking
information.
C
Further
discussion
on
it,
we
would
agenda
that
discussion
within
the
60-day
window
or
or
before
the
fees
take
effect,
which
is
july
1,
at
which
time
council
could
rescind
or
check
adjust
any
of
the
fee
increases.
C
Okay,
I'll
follow
another
question.
If
I
could
yeah
so
so
city
manager,
once
once
the
fees
are
imposed,
we
still
have
the
ability
to
repeal
them
anytime
as
well.
Don't
we
absolutely
as.
A
You
do
for
any
keys,
yes,
okay!
Thank
you.
Thank
you
all
for
the
clarifying
questions.
Thank
you
again,
city
manager,
council,
member
hamilton,
I'll,
take
a
stab
at.
A
Thank
you
for
the
motion.
I'll
see,
there's
a
motion
in
a
second
and
unless
I
see
something
from
the
city
attorney,
but
hopefully
that
motion
for
the
resolution
so
motion
and
second
hamilton
medina
roll
call.
Please.
A
Thank
you
very
much
to
staff
and
colleagues
for
the
discussion
and
conversation.
Next,
we'll
move
on
to
item
nine
comments
from
house
members
before
I
open
it
up.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
our
city
clerk
melissa-
this
is
her
meeting
with
us
and
she
is
moving
on
to
another
opportunity.
A
However,
she
still
is
the
president
for
the
experts
for
the
state
of
california,
so
she
continues
on
that
and
then
I'll
circle
back
to
me,
but
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
varsity
club,
her
efforts
and
work
and
time
and
obviously
I've
always
heard
anybody
who's
come
into
city
hall
and
ask
the
questions,
gets
the
answers
and
has
had
a
very
positive
experience.
So
thank
you
and
with
that
any
council
members
who
have
items
they'd
like
to
bring
up
tonight
please
raise
your
virtual
hand.
Councilman
medina.
A
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
melissa
for
her
time
here
and
wish
her
the
very
best.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Councilmember
any
other
colleagues,
council
member
hamilton.
F
All
right,
I
want
to
take
a
quick
moment
to
acknowledge.
I
seem
to
talk
about
her
in
her
meeting
our
local
resident
karen
cunningham,
who
organized
the
san
bernardino
side
of
asico,
the
march
26th.
F
It
was
a
great
success,
brought
a
lot
of
people
to
our
downtown,
had
over
40
businesses
participate
and
was
the
story
on
channel
7
news
at
5,
6
and
11
on
that
day,
really
brought
a
nice
positive
spotlight
to
to
our
city
and
like
to
thank
thank
karen
for
her
continued
efforts
in
helping
our
local
businesses,
and
I
would
also
like
to
take
a
take
a
moment
to
thank
melissa
for
her
service
to
the
city
of
san
bruno.
A
You're
very
very
kind
and
helpful
through
my
through
my
the
election
process
and
all
of
that
and
and
I
was
never
never
lacking
for
the
information
that
I
needed
to
to
go
through
that,
and
I
was
always
very
grateful
for
that
and
it's
been
a
pleasure
to
work
with
you
and
I
wish
you
all
success
in
your
future.
A
Endeavors
you,
council,
member
vice
mayor.
D
So,
echoing
council
member
homes
comments
about
karen
cunningham,
just
wonderful,
I
also
wanted
to
thank
our
downtown
merchants
for
the
easter
egg
hunt
that
they
hosted
my
kids
and
I
went,
and
it
was
really
intimate
and
really
nice.
We
had
a
nice
turnout
from
the
community
and
I
think
that
twice
as
nice
and
brand
later,
really
just
did
a
nice
job
of
being
proactive
about
trying
to
not
just
bring
people
downtown
but
create
community
downtown,
which
was
really
nice.
D
A
big
thank
you
to
melissa
as
well
and
well
wishes
and
whatever
your
next
endeavor
is.
I
wanted
to
just
follow
up
with
the
city
manager
to
see
if
we
could
also
get
a
follow-up
on
what
was
going
on
with
the
request
to
the
chamber
and
the
request
to
the
community
foundation
and
the
follow-up
on
the
arts
committee,
the
arts
and
culture
committee.
D
We
had
asked
for
a
follow-up
in
january,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
see
where
we
were
with
that
and
to
ask
whether
recology
would
be
restarting
their
composting
in
accordance
with
their
agreement
anytime
soon
I
thought
the
break
was
due
to
coven,
but
now
that
they're
going
to
be
having
the
pickup
event
on
may
14th,
it
seems
like
we
might
be
ready
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
regular
composting
as
well
the
free
compost,
I
should
say
for
the
residents,
that's
in
their
contract
and
then
I
think
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
just
mention
is
that
it
is
council,
member
medina's
birthday,
so
happy
happy
birthday
marty.
A
Well,
we
know
he's
enjoying
his
evening:
councilmember
salazar.
C
Well
now,
I
guess
I'll
start
with
wishing
council
member
medina
a
very
happy
birthday
and
glad
that
you
were
surrounded
by
friends
tonight.
Hopefully
you
got
something
better
in
store
after
this,
and
I
also
wanted
to
thank
melissa
for
for
her
service
here
in
the
city.
Melissa
was
our
our
first
non-elected
city
clerk
and
she
did
a
great
job
brought
a
level
of
professionalism
to
the
city
that
we
definitely
appreciate.
C
She
was
with
us
as
we
undertook
all
male
ballots.
She
was
with
us
as
we
conducted
an
election
during
covid
and
just
she
just
navigated
us
through
those
extremely
difficult
times
that
it
always
with
a
smile
on
her
face
with
a
level
of
dedication
that
is
definitely
commendable
and
and
will
miss
you
and
definitely
wish
you
the
best
of
luck
in
your
next
assignment.
A
And
for
me,
I'm
going
to
end
on
melissa,
I'm
going
to
say
melissa,
but
I
do
want
to
two
things.
One
on
I
talked
to
councilman
dean
about
this,
but
280
and
sneeze
that
encampment,
I
called
again
to
caltrans
and
was
told
today
that
on
april
22nd
it
will
be
notice
posted
and
on
the
25th
and
26th
of
april
of
this
month.
Of
course,
three
days
later,
which
is
required.
The
cleanup
will
begin
on
that
again
and
so
I'll
believe
it
when
we
see
it.
A
But
I
did
want
to
update
colleagues
as
well
as
the
community
and
councilman
medina,
yes
yeah.
I
I
totally
forgot
to
thank
staff
and
for
everybody
who
came
out.
F
To
the
to
the
easter
egg
hunt
at
city
park,
it
was,
it
was
really
cool.
It
was
a
little
different,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
smiling
faces
and
it's
one
of
the
favorite
things
one
of
my
favorite
things
about
city
park
in
here
in
tamron.
So
thank
you
all
for
for
your
help.
F
A
Went
very
well
yeah,
okay,
thank
you,
councilmember
medina
and,
of
course,
to
the
lions
for
and
rhodey
for
their
hosting
as
well.
Second
to
last,
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
it
is
national
public
safety
telecommunications
week,
and
it
is
the
week
of
april
10th
through
the
16th
is
a
time
dedicated
to
celebrating
and
honoring
the
people
helping
others
during
the
most
during
one
some
of
the
most
worst
moments
of
their
lives.
They
don't
get
much
praise
for
it.
A
911
communications
manager
at
in
jones,
colorado
had
said
and
again,
as
you
all
know,
if
anyone's
had
to
call
it,
and
you
hear
what
they
do,
they
have
the
multitask
talents
that
are
impressive
as
heck
to
watch
and
their
calm
and
steady
presents
really
get
people
through
just
the
horrific
times
so
and
we've
had
some
times
in
san
bruno
and
they
have
just
shined,
and
so,
if
our
thief
is
on
there,
if
he
could
please
pass
on
our
best
wishes
and
thanks
and
then
again
to
melissa,
we
want
to
again
as
a
council.
A
Thank
you
and
appreciate,
and
as
council
member
salazar
said,
you
know
you
were
appointed
by
the
council
and
we
appreciate
you
came
in
after
we
lost
our
former
city
clerk
carol,
bonner,
god
rest
her
soul
and
picked
up
and
brought
forward
the
processes,
and
I
think
my
council
member
salazar
put
it
well
about
all
those
elements
that
were
done
and
during
covet
and
the
mail-in
and
the
lines
at
city
hall
on
that
that
election
or
so
so,
our
best
to
you
health,
happiness
and
good
fortune.
A
So
with
that
city
clerk.
Thank
you
very
much
and
for
all
of
us
I
want
to
thank
you
and
we
will
go
ahead
and
adjourn
this
meeting
to
our
next
regular
scheduled
meeting,
which
will
be
april.
The
26th
at
7,
pm
and
again
elsewhere
in
medina
you've
got
about
an
hour
left
enjoy
everybody
have
a
good
evening.