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San Bruno City Council Meeting May 11, 2021
6a. Purchase Downtown Trash Receptacles Project
B
C
B
Good
afternoon
mayor
members
of
the
council
and
citizens,
we
are
here
tonight
to
discuss
a
item
to
purchase
downtown
trash
receptacles.
It
may
seem
like
a
simple
thing,
but
it
is
very
important
to
the
aesthetics
and
fabric
of
our
downtown.
B
We
last
talked
about
this
item
in
a
study
session
on
march
9th,
and
we
intended
to
fund
this
project
through
the
city's
budget
process
and
you'll
be
receiving
the
proposed
budget
in
june,
and
so
you
may
be
asking.
Why
are
we
here
before
you
tonight?
Well
we're
here
before
you
tonight,
because
in
proceeding
down
the
path
to
select
the
trash
cans
and
respond
to
the
council
member
feedback?
B
Our
discussions
with
one
of
the
select
potential
vendors
has
revealed
that
they
intend
to
increase
prices
due
to
increasing
steel
prices
nationally,
as
of
may
31st
2021,
and
so
should
we
want
to
move
forward.
There's
a
minor
savings
of
approximately
73
dollars
per
per
can,
and
so
we
wanted
to
bring
this
forward
to
see
if
we
can
have
direction
and
an
appropriation
of
funds,
and
then
we
would
place
that
order
expeditiously.
B
So
tonight's
item
is
to
provide
input,
is
to
provide
the
city
council
with
information
on
two
proposed
trash
receptacles
and
obtain
feedback.
You
may
recall
at
that
march
9th
meeting.
We
presented
nine
options.
Those
were
narrowed
down
to
three
one:
high
capacity,
trash
receptacle
placed
at
specific
locations
and
then
two
options
for
the
standard
single
trash
receptacles.
B
The
images
that
you
have
on
the
screen,
the
one
above
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
of
our
current
trash
receptacles
and
the
one
below
is
actually
a
test
that
was
installed
a
few
years
ago
outside
of
starbucks,
and
I
think
we
we
talked
before
that
with
respect
to
durability
and
appeal,
it
did
not
hold
up,
and
it's
it's
great
that
we
are.
B
We
have
tossed
out
that
house
agenda
a
little
bit
of
background
trash
receptacle
criteria,
we'll
talk
about
the
options,
we'll
provide
a
recommendation
as
well
as
an
alternative
and
take
questions
and
again
with
the
with
the
goal.
If
we
can
to
have
final
direction
here
tonight
on
purchasing
trash
cans
for
downtown
and
potentially
other
locations
in
the
city.
B
It
called
for
a
design
palette
to
reactivate
and
revitalize
the
pedestrian
fabric
of
downtown,
and
it
also
has
certain
standards
for
what
street
furniture
should
look
like,
but
in
reality
that
was
still
a
10
000
foot
plan
and
bringing
it
down
to
the
one
foot
level
requires
additional
study
as
well
as
implementation
of
specific
projects,
and
the
project
we're
talking
about
here
tonight
is
just
one
component
of
moving
forward
with
improving
the
trash
receptacles
downtown.
B
It's
also
worth
mentioning
that
on
march
9th
we
talked
about
newspaper
racks
staff
has
not
lost
that
we
are
continuing
to
analyze
that
project
and
work
with
the
newspaper
companies
and
we'll
bring
forward
a
recommended
direction
for
council
at
a
later
time.
With
regard
to
newspaper
wraps.
B
So
next
are
the
images
from
the
streetscape
plan
again,
10
000
feet
highly
conceptual,
and
what
you
see
is
a
lot
of
steel.
B
There
was
a
aesthetic
decision
to
move
away
from
steel
and
go
to
more
warmer
tones
as
well
as
products
that
did
not
lend
themselves
to
to
graffiti,
and
so
what
you
will
see
in
the
recommended
palette
for
trash
receptacles
is
in
alignment
with
moving
away
from
from
steel
and
going
to
more
warmer
warmer
tones.
B
All
the
receptacles
should
have
a
lid
or
cover
to
withstand
weather
conditions,
ease
of
maintenance,
and
we
have
discussed
all
of
the
potential
options
with
recology
to
ensure
that
they
are
serviceable
without
undue
challenges.
The
material
of
the
receptacle
should
be
graffiti
rust,
fire
and
stain
resistant,
and
there
are
currently
37
receptacles
downtown
on
san
mateo
avenue.
B
You
know
I
neglected
to
mention
that
there
are
staff
in
the
public
works
department
that
is
available
to
answer
detailed
questions.
The
last
time
you
this
presentation
was
given
to
you.
It
was
by
our
public
works
director
who
separated
from
the
city
to
take
another
position
and
so
on.
I'm
pinch
hitting
tonight
so
receptacle
options.
So
at
our
last
study
session,
the
city
council
really
shows
the
high-capacity
big
belly
receptacles,
both
a
recycling
and
a
trash
at
specific
locations.
B
We
talked
about
a
few
and
we'll
we'll
know
those
areas
are
noted
in
the
staff
report.
We
know
three
areas
in
the
staff
will
record
starbucks
roma's
and
citibank,
and
we
will
we're
looking
at
identifying
three
other
locations
and
talking
to
recology,
about
which
cans
have
the
most
trash
and
doing
a
survey
of
downtown
but
option
a
has
replacing
trash
cans
with
up
to
six
locations
for
the
big
bellies
and
then
the
the
difference
between
option
a
and
option
b
is
the
trash
receptacle.
B
On
march
9th
the
city
council
tentatively
took
those
eight
options
for
trash
cans
and
narrowed
down
to
two
one
is
an
embossed
steel
trash
can,
as
shown
in
option
b
and
the
other
is
option
a
which
is
the
steel
do
more
trash
can
and
the
feedback
we
heard
from
the
city
council
on
march
9th
was.
It
is
a
aesthetically
pleasing
can
but
concerns
about
durability,
and
so
we'll
talk
about
that
in
just
one
short
moment.
B
So
as
a
reminder,
the
big
belly
kiosks-
those
are
double
station
kiosks
with
both
recycling
and
trash
there's
a
standard
capacity
of
50
gallons,
but
we
are
recommending
the
higher
capacity
that
has
150
gallons
and
it
is
solar
and
compactable
and
as
we
know,
there
are
locations
on
san
bruno
avenue,
where
I'm
sorry
on
san
mateo
avenue,
where
the
trash
does
overflow
and
having
these
larger
capacity
cams
is
something
we
talked
about.
B
While
cost
should
not
be
the
only
factor
it's
worth
noting
that
the
standard
capacity
is
4
500
per
kiosk
and
the
higher
capacity
is
9300
per
kiosk.
It's
worth
noting
that
we
are
continuing
to
evaluate
a
five-year
options
for
a
five-year
service
options
for
each
of
these
six
receptacles,
it's
roughly
200
a
month.
So
that's
twelve
hundred
dollars
a
month
or
fourteen
thousand
four
hundred
dollars
per
year
for
the
six
high
capacity.
B
The
city
can
cover
this
cost
through
our
existing
revenue
from
the
one
percent
ab-939
fee,
without
any
additional
funds
needed
from
allocations
needed
from
the
city
council
or
ratepayers
so
option
the
32
gallon
do-more
trash.
Can.
This
is
the
option
that
staff
is
recommending
due
to
the
aesthetics,
and
this
is
also
the
can
that
is
at
earl
glenview
park.
B
It
has
a
it.
Has
a
waist
hood,
it's
32
gallons,
a
heavy
steel
at
194
pounds
cost
is
roughly
1500
each
with
regard
to
durability
of
the
wood
staff
has
communicated
with
the
vendor,
and
they
are
able
to
offer
a
slight
customization
on
this
product
and
replace
the
wood
with
a
recycled
plastic
and
it's
a
plastic
wood
that
is
a
heavy,
dense
resin
that
is
more
durable
and
easier
to
maintain,
and
so
in.
The
image
above
has
the
trash
can
and
they
didn't
have
an
image
on
their
website.
B
B
Probably
beauty
is
in
the
eye
of
the
beholder,
but
it
is
a
38
gallon.
Can
it's
lighter
so
62
pounds
and
that
unit
costs
620?
It
is
slightly
more
capacity.
It
is
slightly
more
larger
in
its
footprint
than
the
other
can,
but
it
is
an
option
and
it
is
an
option
that
the
city
council
centered
on
as
well,
so
at
a
high
level
staff
recommends
option
a
given
its
alignment
to
the
aesthetics
in
the
downtown
streetscape
plan.
B
The
estimated
budget
for
equipment
only
is
105
000
and
that's
again
for
six
six
locations
for
the
big
belly
and
33
locations
for
the
trash
receptacle.
B
So
an
alternative
is,
while
there
are
a
total
of
39
locations
downtown.
B
There
are
an
additional
seven
trash
receptacles
along
el
camino
and
cherry
avenue
that
are
serviced
by
ecology,
and
so,
if
we
include
those
it's
a
total
of
46
stations
at
roughly
115
000
in
the
city
is
recommending
that,
should
the
council
want
to
move
forward,
you
approve
an
allocation
of
130
000,
which
would
include
the
ancillary
costs
of
fixing
them
downtown
and
trash
removal
of
the
existing
cams.
B
With
funding
paid
for
from
the
city's
ab-939
fee,
which
is
a
one
percent
charge
on
a
solid
waste
collection
and
small
state
grants,
there's
approximately
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
that
fund
and
annually
we
receive
about
fifty
to
sixty
thousand
dollars
in
that
one
percent
fee
over
the
over
the
the
life
of
that
fine
has
been
as
low
as
20
000.
B
But
given
the
current
revenue
generation
from
that
fund
and
the
accumulation
we
are
able
to
cover,
the
cost
of
of
this
trash
can
installation,
as
well
as
paid
that
annual
ongoing
service
cost
for
the
the
big
valley,
solar,
high
capacity
trash
receptacles.
B
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
city
manager,
for
the
report
and
if
any
members
of
the
community
wish
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item,
if
you
could
raise
your
virtual
hand
and
we'll
call
on
you
very
shortly
and
then
the
only
thing
I
know
you
gave
us
the
numbers
of
of
cans.
Did
we
assess
whether
we
need
to
replace
each
can
I.e?
Does
it
need
to
be
37?
Gonna
be
35
based
on
whatever
ecology
had
felt,
is
works
or
doesn't.
B
In
addition,
the
cans
are
in
various
states
of
disrepair,
some
of
which
you
can
even
call
the
lapidation.
We
have
not
gone
through
a
analysis
of
what
cans
are
in
a
condition
where
they,
where
they
have
a
useful
life.
B
There
there
has
been,
I
believe,
a
desire
to
replace
it
and
that's
the
direction
we've
been
going
down,
but
again
we're
happy
to
replace
some
and
and
keep
others.
A
Okay,
thank
you,
city
clerk.
Why
don't
we
please
bring
in
the
members
of
the
public
wish
to
speak
on
this
item.
C
Hello
hi
whenever
you're
ready,
okay.
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members.
As
a
san
bruno
resident
former
member
of
the
beautification
commission
and
someone
who
has
done
cleanups
on
san
mateo
avenue,
I
am
excited
for
the
addition
of
new
receptacles
in
the
area,
but
would
like
the
council
and
staff
to
consider
the
following,
probably
in
the
future,
one
adding
receptacles
next
to
every
or
more
trash
receptacles
to
encourage
recycling
even
in
non
high
traffic
areas.
C
Much
of
the
litter
I
remember,
picking
up
was
recyclables
a
lot
of
it
was
glass
just
adding
back
the
same.
Receptacles
doesn't
necessarily
mean
less
litter.
If
we
aren't
educating
the
downtown
community,
I
did
like
the
note
from
the
city
manager
about
serving
existing
receptacles
and
the
level
of
trash
in
those
receptacles.
C
Second
consider
matching
the
colors
of
the
receptacles,
especially
for
the
big
bellies
to
be
blue
for
recycling
and
black
for
landfill.
I
realize
that
might
may
not
match
the
aesthetics,
but
it
helps
with
the
education
and
in
getting
the
right
materials
and
the
right
receptacles,
and
if
the
city
cannot
do
any
of
the
above,
please
please
add
signage
in
english
and
spanish,
indicating
landfill
and
recycling,
and
also
consider
images
of
accepted
items
for
each
receptacle
and
prohibited
items,
especially
on
the
big
bellies.
C
This
helps
in
education
and
reducing
contamination
in
each
of
the
receptacles.
Even
if
it's
minimal
in
nature,
I
know
melbrae
downtown
has
receptacles
with
signage
on
it.
That
are
big
bellies,
there's
no
point
in
adding
recycling
if
it
is
constantly
contaminated
and
to
further
education
from
home,
with
our
three
carts
and
bins
and
now
to
public
spaces
such
as
downtown,
especially
since
I
live
near
a
park
with
no
signage
on
the
receptacle.
So
it's
really
confusing.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
comments.
Next
speaker,
please.
D
Right,
hello,
city,
council
members,
first
of
all,
I'd
just
like
to
thank
you
all
for
the
place
that
we
are
at
today.
D
This
discussion
is
a
healthy
one,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
previous
speaker
and
what
she
added
in
terms
of
recycling
and
messaging.
I
I
would
like
you
to
think
about
some
of
these
existing
ones
that
that
are
on
the
avenue
today.
Maybe
they
could
be
refurbished.
D
I've
seen
a
lot
of
these
type
of
containers
that
are
done
in
mosaic
and
really
make
quite
interesting
art
pieces
and
also
are
usable.
I
realize
that
when
we're
talking
about
recycling,
maybe
they
don't
offer
that
that
ability,
but
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
cost,
maybe
some
of
them
could
be
kept
and
turned
into
interesting
art
pieces
in
certain
areas
on
the
avenue
and
you
could
reduce
the
number
of
the
new
ones
that
you're
buying.
D
Bruno
aside,
I'm
not
sure
I
can't
think
of
anywhere
on
the
peninsula,
where
I've
seen
the
kind
of
mosaic
that
I'm
talking
about,
but
certainly,
if
you,
google,
you'll,
find
all
sorts
of
trash
container
trash
receptacles
that
are
the
exact
ones
that
we
have
on
the
avenue
that
have
been
refurbished
and
then
turned
into
interesting
art
pieces.
D
A
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
Next
speaker,
please.
E
Ready
city
council
members
would
like
to
recommend
the
cheaper
higher
capacity
alternative,
but
the
most
important
thing
is
easiest
to
maintain
my
guesstimate
is
everything
is
going
to
have
graffiti
or
whatever
people
vandalizing
it
so
whatever's
easiest
to
maintain.
That's
the
number
one
priority.
E
Looking
at
bart,
they
chose
a
lot
of
things
on
our
trains
to
make
it
more
aesthetic,
but
when
you
have
more
comfortable
things,
easiest
to
maintain
is
the
most
important
thing.
With
regards
to
high
capacity,
I
would
believe
that
bart
is
one
of
the
most
important
place
to
put
the
high
capacity
trash
cans.
E
Lastly,
I
believe
that
a
high
fine
is
important
to
discourage
people
from
littering
and,
most
importantly,
dumping
things,
particularly
with
dumping.
The
fine
needs
to
be
ten
thousand
dollars
because
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
doing
this
seemingly
on
a
professional
level,
collecting
money
and
just
dumping
things
on
the
street.
A
F
Okay,
great,
thank
you.
I'm
trying
to
put
my
hand
down
just
a
couple:
quick
follow-up,
we'll
follow
up
any
new
questions,
but
at
the
last
meeting
when
this
was
presented,
I
had
asked
about
the
maintenance
of
the
cans
and
burlingame
does
a
regular
maintenance
of
power
washing
the
actual
cans
to
make
sure
that
they
can't.
You
know
they
can't
stay
in
good
condition,
they're
clean
and
we
had
been
told
there
was
going
to
be
that
they'd
look
into
it.
Stuff
would
look
into
it
and
then
come
back
to
us.
F
F
Bernardino,
okay,
I
will
probably
follow
up
on
that,
because
I
do
think
it's
really
important.
I
think
that's
part
of
the
demise
of
our
existing
garbage
cans
is
that
there
just
doesn't
appear
to
be
any
regular
maintenance
of
them.
The
other
question
I
had
was
last
time
we
had
been
presented.
The
cans
with
the
magazine
racks
are
the
magazine
racks
coming
back
to
us
as
a
different
item.
B
Yes,
the
magazine
racks
will
follow
a
bit
in
a
different
path.
We
are
fast
forwarding
this
item
due
to
the
price
increase
on
steel.
F
Gotcha,
okay
and
then
our
I
think
he
said
I
think
clearer
way
than
I
would
have
written
it,
but
mr
tong
talked
about
maintenance
of
the
cans
that
I
the
idea
around
the
graffiti
around.
Just
the
cleanliness
of
the
cans
on
a
day-to-day
basis
is
that
something
that
is
there
cost
associated
to
one
can
that's
not
associated
to
the
other?
Can.
B
I
think
there
are
multiple
parts
to
the
answer
to
that
question.
I
think
it
goes
back
to
your
your
initial
question
about
having
a
maintenance
schedule
or
or
program
up
for
the
for
the
trash
cans.
Absolutely
the
city
can
put
together
a
plan
to
power
wash
the
cans
candidly.
B
What
may
be
required
is
a
level
of
effort
that
we
cannot
accomplish
right
now,
given
our
current
staffing
and
workload,
demands
to
power
wash
on
a
more
regular
basis,
and
so
that
may
have
to
come
back
with
a
reconfiguration
of
staff
assignments
and
or
a
different
plan
for
maintaining
not
just
trash
cans,
but
the
app
so
just
candidly
about
that.
That
is
something
that
we
need
to
do
more
study
and
more
investigation
about,
because
it's
trash
cans
and
others
with
regard
to.
B
The
best
can
for
maintenance,
and
why
don't
I
talk
sort
of
about
the
trash
receptacles,
the
embossed
version
versus
version.
Both
of
them
can
be
power
washed.
Both
of
them
do
not
have
the
type
of
slaps
that
they
pilot
that
we
have
in
front
of
a
starbucks
have,
and
so
they
lend
themselves
to
being
cleaned
easily
with
power
washing
the
do
more
version,
because
the
vast
majority
of
the
of
the
surface
is
the
recycled
plastic.
B
The
comment
from
a
staff
is
that
we
believe
that
it
will
lend
itself
to
a
better
long-term
maintenance,
because
constantly
power,
washing
steel
erodes
the
way
the
paint
surface,
and
then
you
get
to
the
the
metal
and
then
rusty,
and
so
we
do
believe
that
the
damore
version
will
provide
a
better
term,
a
better
lifespan
and
aesthetics
over
the
long
term,
with
sort
of
regular
and
reoccurring
power.
Washington,
which
I
believe
is
envisioned.
F
Okay
and
then
what
about,
if
there's
any,
I
guess
once
we
get
the
cans
of
there
if
they
end
up
not
holding
up
the
way
that
they
are
being
advertised
to
hold
up.
Are
there
any
safety,
warranties
or
anything
that
we're
making
sure
we
get
for
the
cost
that
we're
paying
to
be
able
to
return
them
or
exchange
them?
Yeah.
B
B
Monitor
them
and
should
there
be
a
need
to
activate.
F
One
of
the
warranties
do
that
within
enough
time
to
have
them
replaced
okay
and
then
just
around
the
big
bellies,
the
other
areas
that
I
I
I
think
that
may
warrant
them
is,
I
feel
like,
and
it
could
just
be
me,
but
in
front
of
los
primos
there
there's
always
garbage
overflowing
to
the
point
where
it
appears
that
people
actually
bring
their
garbage
and
just
leave
it
next
to
the
garbage
can,
but
that's
a
I
feel,
like
that's
a
really
high
garbage
area
and
then
the
in
front
of
signiares
pizza
and
just
to
I
don't.
F
F
A
Us,
let's
go
to
council
member
hamilton,
please
thank.
G
You
so
most
of
my
most
of
what
I
was
gonna
cover
was
covered
in
the
conversation
with
council
member
member
mason,
so
so
I'll
keep
it
quick.
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
answering
my
my
pre
questions
about
the
the
maintenance,
especially
of
option
a
you
know.
G
When
we
first
looked
at
this
and
the
the
dumar
option
that
had
the
wood,
I
was
very
concerned
about
the
wood
not
being
able
to
stand
up
and
that's
why
I
was
leaning
toward
the
other
one
which
I
didn't
like
as
nearly
as
much
aesthetically,
but
was
worried
that
you
know
that
the
simply
that
the
wood
wouldn't
stand
up,
so
the
this
resin
option
really
seems
like
a
much
better
option
and
that
can
be
maintained
and
cleaned,
and
I
appreciate
the
very
detailed
information
that
was
sent
in
response
to
my
question
about
how
it
could
be
clean,
so
much
information
that
I'm
wondering
if
you're
asking
me
to
clean
it,
because
I
have
enough
information
to
do
it
myself
now.
G
So
thank
you
for
that.
So
I
am.
I
am
supportive
of
option
a
and
very
appreciative
to
staff
for
bringing
us
back
to
us.
So
quickly,
thank
you.
G
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Staff
for
the
the
research
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
a
couple
items
for
the
for
the
big
belly.
G
Do
we
does
that
cost
include
the
foot
pedal
option
and
for
for
the
model
that
in
option
a
did
staff
obtain
any
feedback
from
any
other
city
that
that
is
using
that
model
to
hear
from
the
customer?
How
well
it
handles
it?
It
holds
up
instead
of
relying
on
the
on
the
vendor,
and
my
last
question
is
for
the
graffiti
proof,
for
the
big
bellies
is
that
wrap?
G
Can
that
wrap
be
customized
to
where
it
could
be
some
totally
different
message
of
whatever
we
want
similar
to
the
utility
boxes
that
are
that
are
around
town
that
got
painted?
That
was
overseen
by
the
culture
and
arts
commission.
B
So
two
questions
and
can
the
wrap
be
customized
absolutely
on
the
big
bellies?
It
is
a
wrap
and
it
can
be
customized,
but
with
regard
to
the
foot
pedal
option,
the
option
that
we
are
showing
both
has
the
hands
and
the
foot
pedal,
and
so
that
that
is
included.
And,
oh,
the.
The
third
question,
which
is:
how
were
we
able
to
contact
other
cities
that
had
the
the
specific
trash
can?
B
The
answer
is
no,
but
we
were
able
to
contact
ourselves
because
that
trash
can
is
at
the
road
lindview
park.
And-
and
so
we
staff
did
take
a
look
at
the
one
at
earl
glenview
park
and
is
happy
with
the
both
the
quality
and
how
it's
holding.
G
Up
sorry,
mr
mayor,
I
have
one
one
last
one
last
thing
from
jeffrey
tom's
question:
I've
heard
this
many
times
hey.
Why
don't
you
just
increase
the
fines,
but
I
think
our
city
attorney
will
be
able
to
answer
it
much
better
than
I
that
there's
a
limit
to
what
you
can
find
somebody.
So
I
was
wondering
if
somebody
can,
if
he
can
give
an
answer
for
jeffrey
tong,
about
the
higher
fine
option.
A
And
our
city
attorney
yes,
and
I
was
just
pulling
up
his
email,
which
I
could
read,
but
I
bet
you
it'll
come
much
better
from
him
than
me.
Reading
the
email
so
city
attorney.
Thank.
H
You
well,
if
you
read
it
I'll,
be
sure
not
to
forget
anything.
So
the
basic
principle
is
that
the
fines
that
are
set
forth
in
the
san
bruno
municipal
code
are
those
fines
that
are
the
maximum
fines
allowed
by
state
law
and
some
residents
may
wonder
why
other
cities
are
able
to
consider
charging
fines
of
ten
thousand
dollars
for
certain
violations,
and
one
answer
to
that
question
is
that
those
cities
are
allowed,
or
at
least
authorized
to
issue
fines
up
to
that
amount,
if
otherwise
adopted
by
the
city
council
pursuant
to
a
charter.
H
However,
I
do
want
to
caution
everyone
that
the
fines
issued
by
cities
for
any
violation
of
any
municipal
code
are
always
subject
to
constitutional
scrutiny
under
the
excessive
fines
and
penalties
clause
of
the
united
states
constitution
and,
what's
important
to
know
about
that,
is
that
one
person
who
believes
they
have
been
charged
and
excessive
fine
can
sue
in
federal
court
sue
the
city
and
recover
their
attorney's
fees,
not
not
just
for
that
particular
case,
but
may
also
be
able
to
recover
those
fines
that
were
paid
by
other
members.
H
If
you
don't
pay
it
on
time
and
that
person
is
suing
on
behalf
of
himself
and
others
for
the
doubling
of
that
fine
as
an
excessive
fine.
So
that
lawsuit
is,
of
course
anyone
can
sue
anyone
for
anything,
but
it
is,
it
is
likely
that
those
kinds
of
lawsuits
would
cost
any
city,
literally
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
to
defend,
even
if
they
ultimately
prevail
and
and
all
for
you
know
what
fifty
dollar
fine.
So
we
really
do
have
to
be
careful
with.
H
With
these
things,
we
do
understand
the
desire
of
both
city
and
the
public
to
ensure
that,
for
example,
dumping
does
not
occur
or
is
deterred,
but
generally
increasing.
The
fine
to
a
very
large
amount
is
likely
not
going
to
gain
compliance
unless
you
can
catch
the
violators.
A
And
then,
since
on
that,
there
was
a
comment
about
bart,
but
to
my
knowledge
and
and
city
manager
will
know
that
is
that
bart's
property
they
maintain
those,
or
am
I
incorrect?
So
therefore
we
would
we
would
be
spending
taxpayers
dollars
from
san
bruno
to
help
bart,
which
that
is
their
responsibility.
B
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
What
are
you
done
with
your
questions.
G
You
know,
actually
I
I'm
not.
I
wanted
to
express
my
support
to
the
concept
of
refurbishing
the
the
garbage
cans,
if
not
for
perhaps
a
separate
project,
maybe
they
could
be
reused
for
for
for
the
schools
or
some
other
public
agency.
That
would
would
appreciate
a
mosaic
on
a
garbage
can,
but
currently
I
think
we
should
move
forward
with
what
we
have
now.
I
do
appreciate
the
the
interest
to
save
2400
in
bringing
this
forward.
So
thank
you,
city
manager,
for
that.
G
As
for
the
power
washing,
this
seems
to
kind
of
be
a
refound
source
of
rev
funds.
With
this
av
I
lost
the
number
here
but
actually,
but
that
we
would.
We
could
potentially
include
that
in
next
year's
budget.
So
those
are
my
final
comments.
I
am
supportive
option.
A.
I
Thank
you,
so
I
think,
like
all
of
my
colleagues,
I
I'm
glad
to
see
this
moving
forward.
We
definitely
want
to
do
something
to
address
the
the
appearance
of
our
downtown
and,
as
someone
who's
participated
in
clean
sleep
and
spent
time,
repairing
those
other
trash
cans.
I
can
attest
that
they
do
suffer
from
a
great
deal
of
neglect
and
poor
maintenance.
I
You
know
not
not
only
is
the
surface
hard
to
clean
because
of
the
pebbled
finish
on
it,
but
a
lot
of
the
metal
portions
of
it
that
comprise
the
door
and
the
opening
and
everything
are
so
severely
rusted
that
it's
even
with
the
coat
of
paint
it's
hard
to
make
them
viable
again,
so
it
will
be
nice
to
have
something
down
there.
As
I
expressed
last
time,
I
still
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
about
the
the
ten
thousand
dollar
garbage
cans
to
me.
I
It
still
seems
excessive
and
I'm
not
thoroughly
convinced
that
they
will
address
the
concerns
around
the
garbage
cans
filling
and-
and
maybe
I'm
not
looking
at
this
or
misreading
the
specs
on
these.
But
from
what
I
understand,
we're
getting
36
gallon,
roughly
normal
garbage
cans
versus
a
50
gallon
high
capacity
garbage
can-
and
it
seems
like
even
two
just
getting
two
regular
garbage
cans
would
give
you
more
capacity
than
than
one
of
these
super
garbage
cans.
I
And
you
know
the
the
the
capacity
in
those
comes
from
the
fact
that
they
have
a
built-in
compactor,
but
it
you
know
looking
at
the
at
the
guts
of
it
on
their
website.
I
You
know
it
looks
like
it's
a
very
small
capacity
container
and
it
just
kind
of
gets
mashed
down,
and
so
in
the
end,
I
don't
know
if
we're,
if
we're
really
getting
the
bang
for
the
buck
and
paying
that
much
more
per
unit
where
we
could
possibly
on
busy
corners,
put
two
garbage
cans
or
add
garbage
cans,
caddy
corner
from
each
other
in
areas
that
need
it
more.
I
So
it
seems
to
me
that
that
would
be
more
cost
effective,
especially
if
we're
still
going
to
be
paying
for
the
same
amount
of
service
to
those
garbage
cans
and-
and
I
know
that
the
the
compactor
models
have
the
benefit
where
you
service
them
less
often,
because
they
can
accumulate
more.
And
so
maybe
you
don't
pick
up
every
day
you
pick
up
every
other
day,
but
we're
not
getting
that
benefit.
We're
still
going
to
be
paying
for
emptying
all
the
garbage
cans
every
day,
and
so
there's
no
no
real
benefit
to
it.
I
So
you
know
if
staff
wants
to
speak
to
that.
That
would
be
great.
I
saw
in
the
staff
report
that
they
mentioned
the
solar
variety
of
these.
Then
there
was
a
picture
of
one
that
that
was
the
non-solar
variety
and
I
believe
that
in
the
staff
presentation
there's
a
reference
made
to
the
solar
one.
So
I
wanted
clarification
on
whether
we
would
be
getting
the
solar
version
of
it
or
not.
I
Because
then,
if
we're
not,
then
that
would
require
having
to
run
power
to
that
location,
which
is
probably
not
currently
there
and
then
also
the
availability
of
enough
daylight
in
those
locations
to
actually
charge
these
things
enough
to
keep
doing
their
job
so
and
also
saw
in
the
staff
report
that
there
was
a
discussion
about
lease
versus
buy
on
those
and
I'm
wondering
if
a
staff
was
recommending
one
way
or
the
other
is
staff
recommending
a
purchase.
I
And
if
it
is
a
purchase,
then
is
there
additional
maintenance
required
in
order
to
maintain
the
mechanical
portion
of
that
thing?
And
if
not,
it
sounds
like
the
option
would
be
a
better
demand
and
then
finally,
on
the
funds
that
we're
pulling
from
to
do
this.
I
was
curious
as
to-
and
I
haven't
seen
this
come
up
before.
A
Thank
you,
city
manager.
Please.
B
At
a
high
level,
I'll
address
the
the
questions
with
regard
to
big
belly
and
the
options
that
are
recommended
for
for
purchase.
So
we
are
recommending
the
high
capacity
solar
version,
which
has
a
with
compacting
850
gallon
capacity
as
opposed
to
the
32
gallon
regular
trash
can
so
it
is
significantly
higher
and
you're
absolutely
correct.
B
The
double
stations
do
cost
ninety
three
hundred
dollars
per
first
station
and
they
also
we
are
evaluating,
but
I
I
do
believe
that
we
will
build
into
the
budget,
including
the
two
hundred
dollar
a
month,
lease
fee
for
the
software,
which
includes
the
warranty
as
well
as
alert
monitoring
for
when
they're,
full
and
and
additional
software
upgrades,
and
so
we
will
build
those
in
and
appropriate.
The
ab-939
funds
and
the
city
has
not
programmed
the
ab-93
funds.
B
They
are
eligible
for
this
use
and
eligible
for
solid
waste
related
items.
It
is
a
fund
that
we
have
analyzed
and
looked
to
potentially
utilizing
funds
for
illegal
dumping
related
activities.
As
the
council
knows,
we
are
currently
working
with
ecology
and
with
the
contract
amendment
that
we
are
pursuing
with
them
for
supporting
the
city
with
illegal
dumping.
B
We
want
to
see
how
that
goes
before
appropriating
additional
funds
from
this
fund
to
to
support
illegal
dumping,
but
but
you're
absolutely
right
there
it.
It
has
been
a
source
of
funds,
the
one
percent
on
solid
waste
that
we
have
accumulated.
While
I
have
not
been
here
the
whole
time
those
funds
have
been
accumulating.
B
I
do
know
that
cities
accumulate
those
funds
to
be
able
to
do
things
like
this,
because
finding
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
find
trash
cans
out
of
the
general
fund
when
you're
sort
of
balancing
between
normal
city
services
is
challenging,
and
so
accumulating.
Funds
like
this
that
trickle
in
over
over
years
is
a
best
practice.
So
you
can
replace
all
of
your
all
of
your
infrastructure
and
in
this
case,
trash
cans.
I
So
just
for
for
clarification,
so
yes,
we
are
getting
the
solar
versions
of
it.
It
sounds
like
staff
is
recommending
purchase
versus
lease,
but
there's
also
ongoing
maintenance
costs,
even
if
we
purchase
yes,
okay
and
software,
oh
and
back
to
the
funds.
So
there's
nothing
within
the
the
the
the
intent
of
that
particular
assembly
bill
that
that
collects
that
fund.
That
would
require
those
funds
to
be
used
for
either
reduction
or
redirection
or
something
else
rather
than
just
providing
receptacles.
B
F
B
B
We
were
not
envisioning
having
signage
on
those,
because
those
are
single
multi-use
cans
for
both
trash
and
recycling.
So
as
we
design
the
the
custom
wrap
in
the
language,
certainly
we
can
include.
F
Multiple
languages,
okay
for
the
big
buildings,
you're,
saying,
okay
and
then
my
my
other
question
was
gonna,
be
if,
if
in
the
future,
we
we
see
that
there's,
I
guess,
increasing
garbage
on
the
in
the
regular
size.
Bins,
I'm
wondering,
if
would
it
be
possible,
and
would
it
look
funny
to
partner
it
later?
So,
let's
say
in
in
two
years:
there's
more
and
more
garbage.
Could
we
get
another
one
of
the
same
garbage
cans?
Is
it
gonna?
F
Look
this
you
know
is
it
gonna
have
faded
and
then
they'd
be
side
by
side
as
a
garbage
and
recycling
bin.
B
So
yes,
there
is
generally
the
option
to
add
an
additional
trash
can,
and
I
think
what
you're
articulating
is
to
add
a
recycling
receptacle
next
to
it.
Typically,
that
is
possible.
I
cannot
guarantee
at
this
point
that
in
three
or
five
years,
when
we
make
that
decision,
the
vendor
will
be
making
the
exact
same
trash
can
and
the
exact
same
color,
but
in
general,
that
that
is.
F
Possible,
okay,
so
then,
and
then
the
last
comment
was
going
to
be.
I
I
correct
my
farm
wrong.
I
don't
think
anybody's
saying
that
we're
expecting
city
staff
to
create
art
out
of
the
existing
garbage
cans,
but
I
do
think
that
it's
a
good
idea
to
if
there's
space,
I
actually
don't
know
how
much
space
the
city
has
but
to
store
some
of
those
garbage
cans
in
case
that
could
become
a
project
later,
knowing
now
how
much
garbage
cans
cost.
I
would
definitely
support
that.
F
I
Just
yeah
one
last
question
since,
since
these
smart
garbage
cans
have
the
software
running
them
and
it's
going
to
be
generating
data,
we're
going
to
be
collecting
metrics
on
our
on
our
new
garbage
cans,
and
can
we
expect
some
reporting
on
that.
B
Great
question:
can
I
commit
to
the
frequency
of
reporting,
but
but
absolutely
the
software
does
come
with
data,
and-
and
we
will
look
into
that
and
see
how
that
appropriately
fits
in
with
providing
performance
metrics
to
the
city
on
how
much
trash
individuals
are
throwing
away
downtown.
A
Well,
council
member
salazar
looks
like
you
got
everybody's
attention
on
that
last
question.
You
know,
I
I
think
what
I
have
been
asked
and
I
and
I
know
that
you've
staff's
taking
a
look,
but
it's
like
you
know,
people
perceive
for
four
to
five
blocks.
Having
that
many
garbage
cans
is,
you
know,
are
they
all
needed
or
necessary
because
of
the
cost?
I
do
appreciate
that
I
think
one
of
our
concerns
was
about
the
side
material
and
whether
graffiti
so
having
that
in
to
something
a
little
different.
A
I
think
helped
address
that
that
concern.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
then
you
know,
I
do
believe
that
again,
the
the
concern
is
on
the
recycling,
because,
obviously,
if
the
wrong
stuff
goes
in
it's
contaminated,
so
then
therefore
that's
one
of
those
issues
that
even
in
our
own
community
we're
having
to
help
educate
each
other
because
that's
happening
and
that
which
increases
the
the
rates
because
of
the
the
way
it
operates
now.
So
I
think
just
the
you
know,
I
think
it's
nice
to
go
forward.
A
I
had
some
some
of
the
same
concern
on
how
many
big
belly
versus
you
know
where
we're
at
and
also
just
as
far
as
that
number
is
just
for
me
to
be
reassured.
We've
looked
at
that
we've
worked
with
recology
and
we
really
believe
that
you
need
to
replace
each
one.
A
Yes,
okay,
all
right,
I'm
seeing
no
other
hands
up
at
this
point.
So
council,
it
is
a
resolution.
Is
there
any
action
by
council
I'd
like.
G
G
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
the
resolution
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
purchase
units
for
the
downtown
trash
receptacles
project,
but
utilizing
option
a
as
noted
in
the
staff
report
is.
A
B
Just
wanted
to
clarify
that
is
with
the
additional,
with
the
addition
of
seven
trash
cans
throughout
the
city,
and
so
that
brings
the
total
number
of
single
receptacles
to
approximately
40..
That
budget
comes
to
115
000
again,
that
is
only
for
equip,
that
is
for
equipment.
Only
we're
asking
for
an
appropriation
of
130
000
at
this
time,
which
is
enough
to
cover
the
equipment,
and
that
is
sufficient
for
the
larger
amount
of
trash
cans.
G
Just
through
the
mayor,
I'd
like
to
amend
my
amen,
my
motion,
please
to
clarify
that
the
that
this
includes
the
seven
additional
units
not
for
san
mateo
avenue
and
that
and
and
authorizing
the
amount
not
to
exceed
130
000.